Best of Track World Athletics Championships Part 1: Fred Kerley goes OFF on USADA + Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone setting records

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Best of Track World Athletics Championships, Part 1

"Fred Kerley goes OFF on USADA + Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone Setting Records"
Release Date: September 20, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: Fred Kerley (World Champion Sprinter) + Others

Episode Overview

In this special World Athletics Championships edition of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes sprint star Fred Kerley for an unfiltered discussion about elite track and field. They delve into Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone's earth-shaking 400m record run, American dominance—and struggles—on the world stage, Kerley's explosive USADA (U.S. Anti-Doping Agency) frustrations, athlete livelihood, and predictions for upcoming championship races. This episode provides a rare, behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to compete at the highest level—and the off-track controversy that comes with it.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone's Historic 400m Campaign

[03:54 – 05:32]

• Sharpe spotlights Sydney's jaw-dropping 47.78 in the 400m, noting women now must run historically fast just to podium.
• Kerley calls her season "crazy" and unprecedented:

  “It's something that I have not done and been done in 39 years, and to have somebody as great as her to accomplish that is amazing.” (04:27)

• Both agree Sydney can go even faster.
• Kerley: “I feel like she can go even below what she did. … She still got a lot more in the tank. That 47 where she ran was a chill mode really.” (05:06)

The Legendary Bobby Kersee and Track History

[05:32 – 06:18]

• Sharpe connects current moments to Bobby Kersee’s legendary coaching tree (Flo-Jo, Gail Devers, Valerie Briscoe-Hooks).
• Hints at potential for Sydney attempting both 400m and 400m hurdles in LA 2028.

Men’s 100/200m at Worlds: Surprises and Analysis

[06:34 – 07:49]

• Sharpe and Kerley break down Oblique Seville's win, Noah Lyles' bronze and disqualification.
• “It's all about peaking at the right moment. … He showed what it was.” (06:54, Kerley)
• Lyles’ focus: “I don't think he was so much concentrated on 100 this year. … He wanted his revenge. The 200 is his baby.” (06:54, Kerley)

Fred Kerley Confronts USADA, Whereabouts, and Athlete Livelihood

[07:54 – 14:54]

The "Whereabouts" System and Personal Toll

• Kerley is under suspension for “whereabouts” violations; he adamantly denies wrongdoing:

  “I'm still contesting. I ain't did nothing wrong, so my people still fighting for all that.” (08:02)

• Explains how athletes must report every move, “basically every quarter you fill out where you're going to be. But the problem with that, you never know what you're going to be. … Life is life.” (10:03)
• On the intrusiveness:

  “It just feel like I'm in prison. … My dad been in prison—he don't got to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain a paycheck.” (10:19)

• Comparison with football: football players keep contracts through suspensions, but, “Once you get suspended [in track], you get no money.” (11:06, Kerley)

The Financial and Emotional Strain

• Kerley is outspoken about lack of athlete compensation:

  “Equity is everything. Ownership is everything for me. … My whole job is to protect my bloodline.” (08:36, Kerley) “Coaches making more than the athletes. Agents making more. … At the end of the day, it's protecting myself, because they don't care about me.” (13:08, Kerley)

• Sharpe presses on Diamond League pay—Kerley explains it varies and is often meager unless you’re the headline.

USADA, Doping, and Structural Injustices

• Kerley insists he is clean, regularly tested, and the system targets Americans:

  “You can come and test me anytime. But filling this stuff out every minute, it's just like bro. … People popping up at restaurants, airports, to test us.” (25:18, Kerley)
  “It's basically like we in a plantation.” (26:01, Kerley)

• Accuses USADA/WADA of selective enforcement and corruption:

  “You got people that actually on the stuff but never getting caught because they're getting paid off. … They got cases going on right now.” (26:05, Kerley)

• “The OGs back in the day, they messed it up for us. … I don't care about getting tested. The OGs messed it up for us.” (24:25, Kerley)

What’s Next for Kerley?

• Still training despite suspension, hopeful for appeal but focused on “protecting my legacy.” (22:22–22:37)

Hot Takes, Racing Banter & Memorable Trash Talk

[27:25 – 29:49]

• Lively back-and-forth between Kerley, Sharpe, and guest ‘Ocho’ about who can outrun who—full of laughs and track bravado:

  “I blew by your ass. I know that.” (28:30, Track Athlete / Friend)
  “The world need to know that you the biggest cap in the history of sports.” (29:49, Kerley)

Fred's Podium Picks & Race Predictions

[29:59 – 33:07]

• Men’s 200m: “Noah's gonna take it, Tobogo second and Jamaican third.” (30:19, Kerley)
• Senses all top three “look injured” but expects surprises.
• Anticipates a winning time between “19.3 and 19.7” in the 200m final, possibly 19.2. (32:28, Kerley)
• Women’s 200m: “Melissa [Jefferson] gonna win. Sharika probably be on the podium. … The third, I don't know.” (33:15, Kerley)

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Championship Recap & The Women’s 400m Historical Context

[37:12 – 48:28]

• Sharpe gives context for McLaughlin-Levrone’s 48.29, highlighting the rarity and speed of women's sub-48 performances:

  “Matarina Coke set the world record of 47.60. There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48.” (37:12)

• Breaks down the challenge:

  “You literally … gotta go out in 22 seconds and hold and come home in 25.5. … That is booking.” (39:00 – 41:40)

• Discusses other historic runners (Valerie Briscoe-Hooks, Kathy Freeman, Marie-José Pérec, etc.) and lays out why Sydney’s run is so transformative.
• On the world record's future:

  “If Sid break this world record, that record might be like Bolt. … Three generations before you see somebody break that record.” (42:52, Sharpe)

• Panel discusses the difficulty of sustained excellence and the gap between the greats and contenders.

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Additional Highlights & Notable Quotes

Life and Pressure for Elite Track Athletes

• Kerley: “At the end of the day, it's protecting myself, because they don't care about me … Without endorsements, we're not surviving.” (13:29)

On the “Whereabouts” Burden

• “If I go out to eat, I gotta put that address in. Like, right now, I gotta put this address. … People popping up at restaurants to test us.” (25:04–25:59, Kerley)

Track vs. Other Sports

• Kerley and Sharpe banter about baseball and football's guaranteed money and looser testing.
• “You know my speed. I know how to catch … come check me out.” (27:16, Kerley)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 03:54 – 06:18 – Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone’s record-shattering 400m
• 06:34 – 07:49 – Men’s World 100m recap (Oblique Seville, Noah Lyles)
• 07:54 – 15:14 – Kerley vs. USADA: Whereabouts violations and athlete pay
• 22:22 – 22:54 – Kerley’s future plans, suspension impact
• 27:25 – 29:49 – Trash talk, racing banter with ‘Ocho’
• 29:59 – 33:44 – Kerley’s World Champs podium predictions (men’s/women’s sprints)
• 37:12 – 48:28 – Deep-dive: The history and speed of women's 400m sprints

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

“It just feel like I’m in prison. My dad been in prison—he don’t gotta do half the shit I’m doing to maintain a paycheck.”
— Fred Kerley, on athlete surveillance (10:19)

“The world need to know that you the biggest cap in the history of sports.”
— Fred Kerley, to Ocho (29:49)

“If Sid break this world record, that record might be like Bolt ... Three generations before you see somebody break that record.”
— Shannon Sharpe on the potential significance of Sydney’s 400m (42:52)

“You can come and test me anytime ... People popping up at restaurants to test us. People popping up at airport to test us.”
— Fred Kerley, on anti-doping rigor (25:18)

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Tone & Energy

The conversation is forthright, passionate, and occasionally combative, with Kerley unafraid to challenge track authorities, share the grind of elite running, and trash talk fellow competitors and athletes. Sharpe’s deep knowledge and reverence for track history add gravity. Banter with ‘Ocho’ and guest friends provide humor and inside perspective on athletic rivalry.

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— End of summary. This episode spotlights the drama, history, and realities of world-class track—on the track and behind the scenes—capturing the voices of athletes fighting for greatness (and fairness).

Transcript

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Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, Nightcap doesn't happen without you, so please subscribe or you're gonna make OO cry. All right, Oo we got a very, very special guest joining us. This guy's done something that very few track and field men in the track and field game has ever done. He's. He's one of the few men that has run sub 44 into 400 meters. Run sub 19. 8 in the 200 meters. Run sub 980 in the hundred meters. He's a world champion in the 100 meters. He's an Olympic silver medalist in the the 100 meters. And I think he won the. He's on the world relay relay team. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Fred Curley. Fred, what's going on? Thank you. On mute. Fred.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Can you hear me?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, we got you now. What's going on, bro?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Chilling, chilling, chilling. Can't complain.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Let's start with this. You watch see it today. 47, 78, two women. I mean, think about it. You had to go to get on. Basically, to get old, you got to run one of the 10, 11 fastest times ever for a woman just to get on the podium. How impressive what you saw Sid do. Basically, she said, this year, I'm done with the hurdles. I'm not doing the hurdles. I'm focusing on the. The 4 flat. And her sole purpose is to take that world record down. Many thought was untouchable. How impressive. How impressed are you with what she's doing, Fred?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I think it's crazy. It's something that I have not done and been done in 39 years and have somebody great as her to accomplish that is amazing. And I feel like she still can go faster. She's just still young and just the open four. Her baby is the 400 hurdles, but there's no telling what she can do in the open four. I feel like she can go even below what she did. I feel like she's still young at it. Her body's still young. I feel like she can do some. Still can do some amazing stuff in that open 400 meters.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You believe she can go sub 47. 5.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like she can go faster than that. I feel like. Yo, is. Is Sydney we talking about?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yes, yo.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So she got. She got talent that I don't think no woman on this earth have Got or no woman have discovered yet. I feel like she, she's. She's amazing. So every time she touches track it always have been a world record in her young young days. So the sky's the limit and I feel like she still got. She still got a lot more in the tank. I feel like that 47 where she ran was a chill mode really.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

When you look at it Fred I think a part of it because they're talking now that maybe and Bobby, Bobby Kersey he coached Flo Jo. Gail Devers. Gail Divas is a two time Olympic 100 meter champ. We know what Flo Jo is. We don't need to say anything. Valerie Briscoe at the time she married Hooks and now she's battery Brisco hook. She was the first to do the double the 42 in 84 in LA. Last time the Olympics were in LA. Guess what in 28 the Olympics going to be in LA. Could you see Bobby Ker going to the Olympic Committee says look we want to do something unprecedented. I feel like they could do unprecedented is the 4 4.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like she always can do anything but hey if the, the.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

The.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

The time frame presentable I feel like any and no telling what Olympic committee can do for any of us.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right. Right. You watch. I mean I, I don't know how much of the are you watching the the world. The World championship.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I watch YouTube University or Twitter University. I get all the news when everything come on them channels. I've not watched it live.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How, how surprised are you with the way Oblique Seville has run this year ended up winning the World Championship the 100 meters he caught Kashane. Kashan always gets a great start. I was surprised how. How easy Seville made it look. Noah got the bronze but Noah didn't have a whole lot of races handicap what you saw and what you think happened.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I don't think I was so much surprised about the race. He been showing it since I raced him in Jamaica. He like it's all about peaking at the right moment. A lot of at least a lot of athletes have not raced in September. They in a season in August each year. So every time you end your season early you don't get that extra boost. And what I saw in the Hun 100 meters I feel like he was always capable of doing it. He just ended up shorthanded. And this year he showed what it was. And for Noah I feel like I don't think he was so much concentrated on 100 this year. I think he was so much concentrated on 200. He lost the 200 last year. And I feel like he, he wanted his revenge. The 200 is, baby. I feel like he want the 200 more than 100.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, I think so too. To be a four time. I mean, he's already three Peters, so now he wants the four. Something that no man on the track has ever done. Well, you say. I think you saying it's done for 200. He got DQ'd, and I think he got DQ'd.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

And that was just a hundred.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay, let's. Let's talk about you.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yes, sir.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You had a whereabout violation that you was possibly contesting. I don't know if you're still gonna.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I'm still. I'm still contesting. I ain't did nothing wrong, so my people still fighting for all that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay, but they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken, track and field athlete to be a part of the enhanced game. Yes, sir. Enhanced means break a world record with the enhancing. I mean, obviously on the protocol, if you're trying to fight to say, well, you know what? I did nothing wrong. This was just a whereabout. I mean, I'm sorry I didn't give. You say. I was. I was in Miami and I was supposed to be in la, or I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to be over here. Why would you. Why would you take this deal? Why would you do the enhanced game?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Come test me. You know what I'm saying? Come test me. Like I'm not tripping. You can come to my house any second, any minute, any hour, come text me. I'm not worried about no missteps, no nothing. Come test me. I've been clean my whole entire career. You should come test me. Only thing by signing up to this game, make money, protect my future. Equity is everything. Ownership is everything for me. And they did the exact job. I got ownership and a lot of track athletes. When they get done with this sport, they don't got nothing to go home to. I've been to two Olympic Games and been world champion, right? So it's for me, my understanding is I. I got. I got family to feed, right? I'm going home. You know what I'm saying? Guess what if I go call somebody, ask to tell me, give me 200k, go get a job. I ain't never had no job, you know what I'm saying? Only thing I know is my feet running, run. You know what I'm saying? So nobody gonna tell me how to make money and protect my, my family, my bloodline depending on me. I'm the first one make it out. And my, My whole job is continue to. If I make a hundred million dollars, I'm gonna continue to make a hundred million dollars each and every year. So my whole job to protect my bloodline.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So explain to me, tell me this free. So tell me how the whereabouts do you. Okay, so you give them locations of where you're going to be, they call you. Or do you put something in right at the beginning of the year says, okay, this is my. Have a residency here in Texas, I have a residency in Florida and I have X, Y and Z. So how did the whereabouts. How does this work?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So whereabouts is basically we fill out each quarter. They got to know all your location, they got to know if I'm here, where they got to know everywhere. So, so this is basically every quarter you fill out where you're going to be. But the problem with that, you never know what you're going to be.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Life is life. So it's just like you just gotta give them an hour. They come after hours. Sometimes they come when they want to. Simple as that. So basically for me, it just feel like I'm in prison. My dad been in jail. My dad, my dad been in prison. He's still on parole. He don't got to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain a paycheck.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, yeah, hey, Fred. That basically that's the same thing with us in the off season, huh? It don't matter where you are. They'll always have success where you at. Yes, man, I don't like that. It don't matter. We a, a Fred. But I remember one, one off season, it might have been after that 2005, 2006 season, it didn't matter where I was.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

See? Yo, but you know the problem, the problem with football and track, y' all still maintain your contract.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

We don't. No, no.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, so so in other words, once.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You get suspended, you get, you get no money. Like USATF spend my medical stuff. So what you, what's somebody like me to like, I'm gonna get money regardless. Yeah, I'm saying like we don't get nothing like track, Track and field. Not paying me, sponsorship, paying me. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So any of your endorsements.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I don't got no endorsements. So what people talking about is make money at all costs and protect my kids.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So I don't care what yo, I don't Care what? Nobody say they not feeding. None of them. They're not even feeding me.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So let me ask you this. You said you want a chance to push your limits. So you say they can come test you. Now, you know, if you take part of this, Fred, you're probably going to get a lifetime band.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yo, yo, guess. Hey, guess what? It's someone happening. Go and do what you got to do. Hey, just like they got people, I got people. And I'm blessed and I'm highly favorable of the man above.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I like it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Do you. Do you think if you were to go, go ahead and, and take this process, how do you think Fred Curley is going to be remembered? Because like I said, Fred, there's not a whole lot of men. I mean, you an NCA champ, you went to the, you the 400.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I'm still in the testing pool.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I'm still in the regular government body testing pool.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Okay.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So let me ask you a question. Do they do blood? They do blood and urine.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

They do both. I just got a piss test today. I'm not tripping.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah, you're gonna be good. You're gonna be good. You're gonna be good.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

See the problem? You see the problem? I feel like the problem is they scared to pay the athletes, you know what I'm saying? So they, they can't control us when you're trying to make other form of income, you know what I'm saying? So if they can't control what you got in your pocket, how did it sell them that you got the coaches and stuff making more than the athletes.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You got agent making more than the athletes. You got president making more than the athletes. Are they protecting the athletes? You got athletes that can get sponsorship. You got at least that working the job to maintain their livelihood.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So at the end of the day, it's protecting myself because they don't care about me. It don't matter how much money I make with endorsements, that stuff end right? And without endorsement, we're not surviving.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Right.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So let me. So what's, what's a. What's routine pay for a Diamond League? They say, well, Fred, we want you to come contest the hundred meters. What, what, what, what? What does a Fred Curly get? What does it got? Obviously usain boat with a special circumstance.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like every year been different. Everything been like. I can't tell you on a day to day or it's wherever the meat got or whatever to meet think is the main event of that championship.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So I can't like, every, every meat is not the same, right? Like, only thing that might be 100.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It might be the hurdles, it might be the 200, it might be the 400. Okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I'm an American. So America live different for Europeans, okay?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Like, we gotta live.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You know what I'm saying? Nobody coming to. Nobody coming to my rescue and ask me if I got this or got that. Like, nobody care. Like, they. People gonna live on a regular life if I go. Go dead broke right now. If I, If I go, oh, no, I don't got it. So it's protect my future, protect my kids. You know what I'm saying? My legacy. My legacy. I did everything in this sport. I still doing everything in this sport.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So let me ask you this. You still. You say you're still in. You're still in the testing pool. So now you didn't go to the Worlds. So let me. Are you still training? So what. So what. What is it now? What, what do you do now? Because basically, I don't know if there's anything after the world. And so the season's basically over. Do. Are you getting ready for next. Are you gonna do the indoor season?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So I. I'm not. I'm suspended right now. Previous suspended. So they. I'm still texting.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay. Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So I'm not basically banned as yet, but they suspended me for competition.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Okay.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So. Right. My lawyer fighting. Fighting that. So right now I forever retrain it. I'm an athlete. So you just never stop doing what you. Dude, just because of this. You never know. You always got to be prepared for what's. What's coming.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Fred, let me ask you this. Why did you. I mean, you're a great 400. You're great. You. You are a great. You was on pace to be one of the greatest 400 meters. What made. What made you decide to go to the. What made you decide to drop down and do the hundred?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

See, like the.

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[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Power.Com Awards 2019 actually changed every day my coach left me in 2019 to go get a degree overseas. 2020, I was without a coach. 2021, I was allowed to coach until like a couple of. That's when I moved to Miami and started training with coach Joey. And I was still doing 400 training. But a 400 training, you got, you got to have somebody there just to push you. The 400 just started getting born and then all of a sudden I'm just like, let me just try this. My ankle got rolled and stuff. And then I was running on the hurt leg. And that's when, God bless me, I said, I don't know what's next. And then that's when the 100 just came. I ran 100 at track meet in Florida and that's when the repetition started becoming easy. And that's when I dropped my first nine. And I'm like, I'm going to the Olympics. Yeah, I'm running the 100 at the Olympics this year.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

And a lot of people question me around me. Even my coach questioned me at the time. But at the end of the day, I'm always going to believe in myself, my self ability. I won't get into something if I know I'm not going to be good at it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Because we, it's, it's rare now. We see people do the four drop down to the two because of the strength training. So you're really good. We see people do the two drop down to the hundred. I think. What was the guy, he went to LSU, Xavier. He won the 400.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah, he won.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He won the four and the one and. And the SEC at LSU.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And so he's having a promise. So I didn't, I. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what you've done, but it's the times that's most impressive. To go sub 44 to go sub 19, eight to go sub nine eight.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

But for me.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Do you know anybody else that's ever done that?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

No. Yeah, I do. Besides yourself now I don't know nobody. But for me it's just like, it's all about. People tell me I can't. I hate the world. I can't. That will make me want to do it even more. Oh, you can't do this. You can't do that. Oh, you like. I heard that plenty of time when I'm younger. So that's why I'm gonna go do it.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

And every time somebody say I can't, I've been successful and hey, you know what I'm saying? So I can't complain about what God gave me in my heart to do. He pushed me to greater things. So when somebody said I can't, that's when I'm gonna do it. Just like I would Moss on Ocho Cinco right now.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hold on, hold on. Hey, hey. You know why you ran sub 44, right?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Well, you chasing it?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Nah. Ask him who he trained with.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yo, that was. Yo, these came to the track like one or two times.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

That's who he trained with.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Huh? You. You beat the pole.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, flew by. Flew by him.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yo, you know what happened?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He started.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

He started training for boxing because I beat him so bad.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, hey. Flew by. He was like, I didn't know you was that fast to be this old. I was like, yeah, I'm like that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So if this. If this band is lifted, I don't think there's anything next year but the USAs. And then there's. The world's in the 27, and then you got the Olympics in 28. So what. What is your immediate plans?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I'm still running. I'm still running. I got a salary, okay? Yo, I. I got a salary. I got equity in the company, so I'm still running and still run freely. You know what I'm saying? You can't. People can't deny me of my success.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Like.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Like I said, I ain't really miss no test. All the missteps I missed, I would add track me, okay? So I'm not caring about none of what people say, but people gotta go into the details and stuff. See, they not popping people on drugs. They probably people were. Whereabouts.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So they're not really doing their job. And guess what? I got drug tested the next day after the missteps. I'm not caring about no missteps. I know what. What's really going down. And we explained to them, too. Just because I'm a mirror. Just because.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Go ahead, Fred. Go ahead. Sorry to cut you off. Go ahead.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Just because, like. Like I have. I had a rough year and I can't complain. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like. Just gotta do better.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Is it a situation? They don't give you a heads up. They just need you.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So they call you, say an hour is no cause.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, they just pop up.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah. There's no cause. None of that.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

They gotta. They gotta tell you. See, at least they let us know.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

It's none of that. It's none of that.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

That's not fair.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

It's none of that. See, the problem Is track and fill are not making no money. That's how they make their money. That's why UFC dropped them.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, the drug test. Yeah, yeah, the other test.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So they said they. So they not really doing their due diligence and. And stuff with everything.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You. I heard you keep saying Americans, Americans. Do you feel that this system is set up to catch Americans while others countries possibly. Because everybody don't test like that. Like, the American.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Right now, I feel like we live in a time where.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Pete, like, the OGs and stuff back in the day, it up for us. Sorry for custom, but they messed it up for us. Okay, how so you already know. Just, the OG messed it up for us. Like, okay, so I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't care about getting tested. You can test me every day, every minute of the hour. So it's just like, the OG messed it up for us.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So in other words, it's like those guys were like, well, I wasn't there, and I'm sorry. And so that's why they put the whereabout clause in. Because when they wanted to test, guys say, well, I was over here. I was over there. So now they make y' all every quarter. So every three months, you guys got to feel like, well, I'm gonna be in Miami. I'm gonna be in la. I'm gonna be in Texas. I'm gonna be in Georgia.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

No, no, we gotta give them every address. If I go out to eat, I gotta put that address in, like, right now. I gotta put this address. Every minute they can show up.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, no, come on, now. They.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

It's like we in prison. Like, you got every hour. Every. Everywhere you go, you gotta do the training block. You gotta give them an hour. If you leave the house, go down the street. Hey, they. They gotta know everything. And that's what people don't realize. Like, I don't care. You can come and test me anytime. But, like, filling this stuff out every minute, every second, it's just like, bro, y' all doing too much that they privacy and stuff, too. When we go overseas, we got to fill out every minute, every second, everywhere. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere you go. If I go to a funeral right now, they got to know where I'm at at the funeral. People popping. People popping up at restaurants to test us. People popping up at airport to test us.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Damn.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

So it's basically like we in a plantation.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

And the outside world don't know what's actually going on. Because you got people that actually own the stuff but never getting caught because they're getting paid off. You got active cases right now in track and field that USADA and Water is not doing nothing about because they're getting paid off.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, damn. That's a pretty strong accusation, friend.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

There's no accreditation. It's the facts is the facts. Simple as that, and they know it. They got cases going on right now. You can come and text me any day of the week, and I'm not tripping. I can show you. My, my, my. Yo, we get us every time we do a drug test stuff. Come to my phone. Negative, negative, negative, negative. I'm not tripping.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Have you thought about transitioning to football? You won't get it tested as much.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

No, baseball is guaranteed money, Fred.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You ain't played basketball in 20 years. You ain't finna hit no pitch.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I've been playing, yo. I don't got the. Yo, I can play.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What you go, Fred. What position you gonna play, Fred?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Center field.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You know they hit. They hit in center field, right?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah. Yo, you know my speed. I know how to catch. You can. Hey, I know you here somewhere in this county where I'm at, you can come check me out.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hold on. You can hit the ball?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yes, I can hit the ball. No, I'm not. I'm not in Miami. I'm talking to unc.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I'm gonna say, let go to the.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Bat cage this weekend.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Are you gonna be here?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Oh, you know, I was. I was a 5:2. Like, you know, they were trying to draft.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yo, you say you good at everything.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

No, I'm. I promise. I promise. No, the Marlins tried to draft me in 97 out of high school.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Y' all Florida. Y' all Florida guys, y' all gotta stop.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Nah, for real. Pray. That's like when I beat you when we was out there training like you.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I know. I know. One of the greatest runners in America. I know you ain't let this man come off the street and beat you, Fred. Yo, did.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yo you talk about Ocho? Hey, he thinks he good at everything.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You see? What?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

He thought he was about to get a soccer ticket, too. Look at him. You think you good at everything?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Man, be honest, Unc, right here now, I didn't. I didn't beat you when we ran 250s.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I ain't never doing no 250 in training in years. So what are you talking about?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

What we was doing that day?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

What were we doing?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I did what? 150. We were doing something.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

What were you doing?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I ran it with you. I don't know.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What were you doing?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I blew by your ass. I know that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I just want to know what we're doing.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I can't remember.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Hey, we, we pre lining up this weekend.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Oh, hey, I got my camera ready.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Well, bring your camera out.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I've been training. I don't. You've been training?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Hey, you just. I train every day. Yeah, you probably be like your glasses lopsided when I get done with you.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Okay. Okay. Keep that same energy. Matter of fact, I feel so good. I give you 5 meters.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Huh? Huh?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

If you can hide it, I give.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You 99 meters, and we going 100 meters.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What, what you running, Ocho? You want to build a 40? You want 40, 60, 100, 200, 400?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

You know what? I'm, I don't want to handicap him. I want to give him a chance to actually try to catch up. So I'm, we'll go, we'll go 80 meters.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

80 meters. How much? Yo, the first four.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

The first, the first 60 you done. You ain't, Ain't no chance.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You can't even be to.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, that's my dog. That's my dog.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

You can't even be to.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

That's my dog. But listen, I'm a different horse. I'm a different thoroughbred. I mean, the I, I beat you. You are a world class athlete. You're a world class sprinter, and I smoked you. And I'm just being honest in front of the people. The world need to know. I, I, I didn't say that.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

The world need to know that you the biggest cap in the history of sports.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I ain't even got no. I got a cap right here. That's about it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Fred, we're gonna get you out of here on this one handicap to 200 for us. You got, hey, you got Noah. The Jamaican ran really good today. He broke it down, but he looked really good. And then you got, obviously you got Tobogo, you got Kenny Banerk. How you see the podium?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

The podium? I feel like Noah's gonna take it to Bogo second in Jamaican third.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

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[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Because I believe, but I believe somebody's injured in out of three of them. So I don't know, three of them look injured, but hey, you never know.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

So you could tell, you could tell they injured by just by watching.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yeah, I'm an athlete. I'm like a track athlete. So you can tell, like, you can tell if people forcing their runs and stuff too.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Right? Right.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Ah, so, yeah, so Those are four people gonna be on the podium regardless, but you never know.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right? Right. So you think, you think. And you.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I think Noah's gonna. Noah's gonna take it because I feel like he got something to prove and because what happened last year, but you never know. To Bogo a sneaky mother.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Man. Noah came out with the shorts today. I don't think I've ever seen no running shorts in the singlet.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Now, no one would be running the shorts, but I feel like he got something to prove. So I feel like. Feel like we gonna see some. Some nasty stuff in Tokyo in a couple of hours.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow. So you think, you think he's still seething from losing that 200 in the Olympics, getting the bronze? Because he really wants to go. I mean, the gold medal. I think the gold. But like you said, the 200 is his baby. And he has yet to get the medal. He stand. Stand the top of the podium at the Olympics. And so he's like coming back. Look here.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

He got. He's got something to prove. Like he got something to prove. And definitely in the. The deuce, I feel like he got something to prove. And I feel like he gonna show the world what Noah's always been Noah. So I feel like he got something to prove in the two. But Tobogo always sneaky. He probably. He probably faking like he got injured and just show up.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What, what kind of time you think you're looking at? What, what, what is he going. If I mean, in 1950, he ran 1951, which was the world lead. I feel like they go, they're gonna.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Be between 193 and 19 7.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like you're gonna be something fast.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow. Wow.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Gonna be something fast. And I won't be surprised. 19 2, but I feel like 193 to 19 7, those are going to be the winning times.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

You think they're in that kind of condition?

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like, hey, just that's his last race of the year. He did what he got to do. And they got. Did some of them probably jaw some of the races. I feel like history always be determined when championship come. The real dog come at championship and no approval over the years. He always show up. So he probably gonna show up.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How you like the women? Shericka Jackson look good. She ran 20, 21.99. You got MJ, Melissa Jefferson.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

I feel like Melissa gonna win the 200. Hey, she set some people up this year. So, like, I can't like, my. My one is like, that's her. You know what I'M saying the other two Sharika probably be on the podium. And the third, I don't. I don't know about the third because it's all over the place. Because you got some faces that fighting just to run some of them times in the semi final.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right? All right, Fred, thanks for joining us tonight. We wish you the best of luck in your appeal of the suspension. Whatever your endeavors are, we wish you the best of luck, man. Stay healthy and come back and join us soon.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Yes, sir. Appreciate it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Appreciate you, bro.

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After nearly two decades 19 years Sonia Richards Ross held the American record in the 400 meter at a time of 4870 on the exact same day 19 years ago. 19 years later, Sydney McLaughlin took it down in the semifinals of the world track and Field Championship. McLaughlin clocked 48:29. I think that's off Ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American. She took 0.41 seconds off the American record. Sid said she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that. That's a blistering time and she backed it down at the end. Yeah, maybe I'm the only one alive that remember when Matarina Coke set the world record of 4760? There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48. Krachalova, who's a 800 meter runner, Ocho, she ran 48.90. She ran 47.99 and then Coke ended up running 47.60. And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two. Now Nasser has been down there. I think she's 48 11. I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 48. 17. Mo Marie Jose Perrette, the French lady, she's back to back Olympic champ. She also won the 200 in Atlanta. She won the four and the two. I'm trying to think who else has been a low time. They had this Russian Brazena. She ran on the. The. The 88 team. I think she was the one that held Flojo off. If I'm not mistaken. Ocho. My memory serves me correct. They've been a few. Kathy Freeman. There have been some great 400 meter runners. Valerie Briscoe, Hook Kathy Freeman, Pere Nasser Paulino, Coke krachalova. But Sydney McLaughlin and she said something very interesting. She said look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 4760 because I don't think. I don't think understand what people understand just how fast that is for a woman that's booking. Yeah. You literally. She's gonna. They're gonna. You're gonna probably have to go out in 22 seconds and hold and come home and 25. 25, 5. Let that sink in because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25. She's gonna have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half. She's got the people in the race that could push her. Nasser takes the pace out. Paulino like the track. She like. She like she played with fire there now. Almost didn't make it, but we'll see what her luck. Sydney. Sydney's fitness is impeccable. I. It's. I believe it's going to take low 48. 48 0. Or they might have to dip under 48 in order for it to win this gold medal.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah. When is that race?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Well, I think it's today already over there. Well today. Well, it'll be to. It'll be today for tomorrow for us because I think they're a day ahead of us.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So it'll be Thursday. So it'll be Friday for them. So. Yeah. I mean said man. And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that because you know normally Ocho you. I'm doing just enough when yeah to qualify get the third lane and then now in the finals I can drop the hammer. But to run 48, 29 and take 4 1.41 off the out the American record. She was cruising on Joe. She was cruising. She was cruising. And see this is why Femke Bo, the Dutch runner can't beat in the hurdles. She ain't got the foot speed. She had the foot speed.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Right.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I mean what you gonna do? What. What were you gonna do with someone that can run a ford can run 48 seconds. I mean it's gonna be very impressive if she abandoned the hurdles and sets her sights in 28 and she get the world record in the. In the four and the hurdles.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Lord. Because I didn't think, I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this Coach record this 40. Record's 40 years old. I felt that. Oh. So I mean, nobody's come close. There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub 48. So what, man? And nobody's come close. Like NASA ran 4811, but she got popped, right? So like Perrette when she ran. When she ran the French runner when she. She the double 400. There ain't been a whole lot of women double up. I think Shawnee Miller, Weebo, I think she doubled up also.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

But.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oo. That's booking. That is booking.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Very. And, And I, I think people really don't understand how fast it is. And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track and understand or you ran track.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And realize how hard it is to run. It's how hard it is to run a 52nd lap. Unless that's a. To run 49. To run 48 for a woman.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And then we talk about 47. If see again, if seeing break this world record, that record might be like both. You may have to go 3, 4, 5. About three generations before you see somebody.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Break that record or somebody see you break it again.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Because I think that's what's going to happen with both. Because we haven't seen. We haven't seen anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 9:68. He was at 9:58.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, for a boat. We're moving in that room.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I still believe Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing right.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I'm hitting the chest.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He's. He's low. He's low.950. He might even go. Not sub 950. Oh, that he broke the guys. He's light years in front of everybody. I just. I just. I just wish he. I just wish. But he was so happy to understand the moment. I just wish he had ran through the tape. I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time. That time would have never been broken. Nobody's ever. You're gonna have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you. That's the one or two things. You own a motorcycle, you got a hurricane behind you. But Sid, she. She's in. She's in phenomenal shape. And. And I think it's going to take a special time. I think it's going to be 480 or sub. I don't think. I think the world record's safe. Me personally, I think the world record is safe. But I do think 48. Oh. Or maybe a tick under 48 is doable. I think it's doable. And then I think. I think over the next. You know, could she possibly double. They're gonna have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson. Valerie Briscoe Hooks was. I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks. I forgot. She was a great. She was the first person to pull the double, the four two. And she did in 84. So we've had Shondra Cheeseborough. We've had some great runners in the 400.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Well, hold on. We got a great 400 runner right now in the family.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, your daughter.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah, right. Yeah. I hope you watching. You see what Sid doing. She had, you know, Kentucky shoot.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, your daughter run from Kentucky too?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I didn't know. Yeah, she out there? Yeah, she had been in Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. She better be watching.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Well, I. I think the head coach when Sid went with Eric Floral. I think he's at University of Texas now. I think so. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the. I think he's at UT now. But see, it's booking. Ash is the. It's the seventh fastest. Not the 11th fastest. Correct. It's the 11th fastest. Nah, I'm gonna disagree because 4760. 4799. 48, 14, 48, 17, 48, 25. Marie Jose Paret, 4827. Olga Brazen and Sydney McLaughlin, number seven at 4829. So I don't know where they get this from. The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 48:63 at the Olympics in Atlanta. So we're gonna disagree. We're gonna disagree with USA Today at USA Track & Field.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, I would. I would disagree. The 11th fat. Hold on. They say it's 11th fastest time in history.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

How?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Pull it up. Pull it up or pull it up? Ash right quick. Google it. Because something ain't adding up. I hope they ain't threw men in there. Oh, oh, oh. Okay. So what they're doing is she ran more than one time under the time on the Sids time. They're counting that. Okay, okay, So I was just. Wow. Yeah, but look, I. I' ma leave that alone. Because we know where the, the, the, the, the system that the East Germans and the old Soviet had in place. But let's leave that alone. Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified. Hey, we'll leave that alone, Ocho. Okay. Okay. The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person because Coke ran two. She ran 48:16 twice and she ran 48:22. So she got four to top four, the top fast seven seven times in. In the country gold medal in the 110 meter hurdles. Grant Holloway's trying to for Pete Ocho has come to an end. Cordell Tench, who did I say? MJ, who did I tell I got? Cordell Tench ran 1299. Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, 1308. Tyler Mason, Jamaica, 1312. Richard, the Japanese runner ran 1318. Jacoby Tharp ran 1331. So it stays in the house. Abby, it ain't the same person, but it's in the usa.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hold on.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Flamingo. What, what place he came in?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Make it to the finals. It's been a rough year. I don't know if he's injured. I don't know what he's dealing with. But he didn't make the finals. Yeah, he was a three time world champ three consecutive times and he didn't make the finals. Damn. And the 1500 meters. Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334 10. Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334 12. Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334.2 5. Timothy Cherry, Kenya, 334.5 0. Neil Larios, The Netherlands, 334.5 2. Robert Farkin, Germany, 330 5. Josh Kerr was dealing with Inger Britson. I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it. Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

And.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot. He's dealing with a calf injury or something. He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.

[Fred Curley (Track Athlete)]

Damn.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Men's long jump. The girl the goal went to for alani of Italy, 839 meters. Beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history. To Taj Gale, Jamaica, 834. Xi Yoha, China, 833. So. Damn. And the pole ball. Mondo Duplantis, a new world record. Ocho, 6 meters 30. He breaks the world. He breaks the world record for the 14th time.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, that's, that's crazy because you know. You know I used to pole bowl. Yeah. Damn.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Manolo Careless.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

What was the record again.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

6:30 meters. That's over 20ft.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did about 17ft boy. My junior year.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

The former world record holder Renee Lavalini was in last place. He was in 8th place at 5 meters 75. He's the former world record holder. And Sam kendricks of the U. S.595 finished just, just, just off the podium.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Dang. Probably remember them days, bro.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I was scared of over and the shot put. Ryan Krauser in his first meet. He's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season. But he came in and when he needed to be Great. He was 22 meters 34 for gold. Mun. Mexico 2197. Silver. Leonardo Febre, Italy 2194. Tom Walsh of the Netherlands. Excuse me, New Zealand. Excuse me. He was 2194. But we, but it's unbelievable was able to do. I mean just think about Ocho. The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the world championship.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And he uncorks 1 20, 22 meters and 34 on his fifth throw. The greatest shot putter in the history. He won three consecutive world championships. He's won three consecutive gold medals. Obviously he's getting good gear up. Probably. I don't know what happened to do they only got the usas next year and then they got the World Championships in 27 and then you got the, the, the Olympics in 28. He's relocating. His wife's a doctor. He's moving to Nashville. I think she got a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon. Yes.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Hey, they didn't, they didn't force you when you was in high school to run track?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I ran track.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

So you ain't do. You ain't do the feel of it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

Okay. I, I did, I did shot putting. I did povo. I ran 4x1, 4x4, 100, 200. I ran the 1500.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, I won the. I'm a three time state champ in the triple jump. I won the best performance trophy, the farthest jump in the state meet my senior year. I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet. In the state track meet my. In my classification my junior year. Yeah, I ran track. Coach. I was pretty good. Got recruited by a lot of schools.

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I still, I still got my technique.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Nah, your legs too close together, huh?

[Track Athlete / Friend]

I, I know my furniture white. I can't kick my furniture, man.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

But congratulations to all the winners. Ryan Crouser, gold medal yes. In Cordell Tench. Unbelievable. We. We keep. We keep the goal. Here we go. Keep that gold medal here.

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