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Host (Cesar Faraday)
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Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What's a good woman?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think a good woman is just a good person. Like, I think being a good person. I'm not even just saying a good woman.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
A good person, be a good woman.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm not saying that you could be a hoe and you could be a good person. But I'm saying. What I'm saying is that's a good woman. A good woman. And a good person is someone who's not using someone or misusing them, who is not in a relationship, trying to connive, who is disloyal, who is actually somewhere because they love you and they want to make you a better person.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Woman. Are there any black good women?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yes, of course.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What race you think got the most good women? I think the period. The most loyal and the most good women. If I had to think culturally, I think it's Chinese and Mexican.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
This is to taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Cesar Faraday.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The Truth, Paul Pierce. What's up? What's cracking? Another day, another dollar, another week, another holla. Let's get it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm crying.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
How you doing? I know you ain't been feeling well.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I've been sick. I'm trying to get back. Right. Yeah, yeah. I'm not all the way there. It's been like people been getting sick.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Looking right, though. You looking right.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, Sick. Been going around, so I'm trying to get it right. Get it tight.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Okay.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So what's happening? What's been popping?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So. Yeah, well, one major thing is Zendaya and Tom Holland got married, so that's dope. Good for them. Zendaya, she's the actress, and Tom Holland's the guy who plays Spider Man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one? Which one is that the dude that keep getting in the fights or something? Or getting. Getting.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
He's a white man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah, I know that, but it's not the one I keep getting. Like, maybe I'm thinking about somebody else.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
He's not getting in no fights. Tom Holland is chill. He's living his best life. He's not on that. Who are you talking about? Who are you talking about is getting
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
in fights or maybe getting hit, I don't know.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, he was. He got to a scrap somewhere. He keep getting to it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, at Marty? Yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What he played in.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
He played in was Transformed, but he also played in Even Stevens, which is a show that I grew up watching.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I was talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Shia LaBeouf is crazy, but Shia LaBeouf has a history of supposedly, like, beating women and like, all this other stuff, too.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Damn.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, he does. He has, like, assault cases against women and this and that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So what's up with Zendaya?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Well, she supposedly got married to Tom Holland.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Is that big news?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, Zendaya's really. They're both very famous, but you're. They're out of your age range. Like, you're way older than them. And so, like, that's probably not even on your timeline. You know what I mean? That's way past your timeline. You looking at, like. Yes. Out of your algorithm. You looking at, like, Seal, Madonna.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It ain't even about my age right now. They just not what I be. I'm into. That ain't the right.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You're older. You're into older.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Even if I was younger, I'm not into that. Like, what. They don't. They ain't in the hip hop culture. Everybody don't know who they is.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
A lot of people know who's in danger.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
A lot of people do know who they is. I heard the name, but I couldn't tell you. If she walked in here, I wouldn't know what she looked like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, you would know if it was a day out. Yeah, he would. Yes. She's a black woman. She played in a whole show called Euphoria with that Drake producer. Was famous as hell. Like, she's very. She's in a lot of movies. Zendaya's Kraken. She's a part of black culture very heavily.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Okay, so what?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Tom Holland is white, so.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah, that sounded like it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What movie she played in, she played a spider man. She was. She was his love interest in Spider Man. And that's how they fell in love. She was in Dune, Euphoria.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I seen that. I seen that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like, she's in a lot of stuff. Let's see. Zendaya's in a lot of stuff. She was in a lot of stuff.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What's so interesting then? What's the interesting.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What are you talking about? What's interesting?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Like, that relationship.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
She was in Spider Man, Dune, the Odyssey, Challengers, Euphoria, Shrek.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Oh, she's solid. Okay.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like, she's solid. Like, Zendaya is a big actress.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
She's solid. I just seen a flick. She's solid.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, she's. She's beautiful. First of all, she's solid. Yeah, she was in Blackish. She was in a lot of things. Like. And today is cracking.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Hey, List.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. You're tripping. Those are both.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'll be in all the little C list parties, so I don't see them.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Well, you're older. You're not gonna see them anyways where you're at. They are not there. You're around like, the. Like other ones. Like, that's not really the vibe that you're on, you know, like, she shooting. I'm not. I'm just being honest. Like, you're an older man. Like, Zendaya's young. She's hot. She's a list. She's not around you. You know what I mean? Because you're like, just in your.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
She's not in the trenches. Going to the places I go.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Exactly. I agree.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
She's not pulling up to Louisiana Fried Chicken and eating.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No I sitting down. Yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Trying to catch her at what state? 48 or some shit.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
She's not even there, honey. She's in a whole different caliber.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
This restaurant's higher than that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I don't even think. Like, she's just on a whole different level than that. So anyways, the question.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Shout out to her and she black. Shout out to Zendaya, you know?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. And she got her a white man shout out to that, like. Because at this point, we're all out in life. I feel that, honey. Because let me tell you something about these. These black men out here. I know. I. I do support black men. I think black men are dope. But black men, y' all be traumatizing the hell. Like, you don't know how many times I just was getting my hair done. And my. My hair lady, she's engaged, and she's like, you know, what is. Are I'm this close to getting with a white man or a different race because These black men be traumatizing us. Shoot your shot on price picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right. Price Picks is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your first $5 prize picks makes every dunk, every dime and every that much more exciting. So don't m miss the chance to get started on America's number one app for sports pick. We are so back, baby. Prize picks is so simple to play and it's the best time of the year for basketball. Ah, March, college basketball, baby. And the final playoff stretch for the league.
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Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So white man, though.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think white men are more chill just like you say out the country and all them women, I feel you. I think white men are more chill. They're not going to be doing all of this extras. They're not. They're going to be chilling, they're going to be vibing and do what you
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
need to do then.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You know what I'm saying?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You know what I'm saying? That's what I was saying. That's why when I. But like when a girl say it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But no, no, no, because I get it. You, you get, I think, yeah, go out the country, get you that. Because at this point the black on black is traumatizing. They're traumatizing each other. Like at this point because it just seems like that. And so now as I grow and I evolve and like since you have said that last, I feel like I've looked at things more and done more research on shit and I do realize like maybe, yeah, as much as I want black on black love and I love that and I want to see healthy black on Black love. I feel like we are just, as a community, traumatized so deeply that maybe you do need to move around and you know, like, I don't know how it is to be with white man. I never been with no white man. I've never been with a white man. But I will say these girls are saying that they're chill.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What you gonna do? That first time you go to dinner with the family and you know one of the brothers or uncle say something like, who is this nigga bitch? What you gonna say then? What you gonna do? Um, you know what you gonna do then? You gonna break up with him?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
He didn't say it, but the family
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
there, this is the family function.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You don't think that which family function
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
you'd rather be at?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You don't think that the. You don't think that a black family function have Hayden ass aunties that are ghetto trying to punk you because you this or because I'm light skinned and I look a certain way like I dealt with that too, so I don't give a damn.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Race ain't no racist shit going on though.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
It is racist because at the same time it's like, oh, you're mixed. What are you? You ain't even black. Like, black people. You're not black enough. I'm not black enough for the blacks. They want to punk me because I'm light skinned and I'm not like. So either way, I get punked by black people every day. Black people, you're not black. You're not black. Stop supporting black. And the moment you stop supporting black, you want to be white, you don't want to be black. You want to be Persian. Which one is it?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Once you do the 360, they gonna know you black. We can shut that dog down right now. Right now.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
It's always something. I feel like this is the thing about the black community that I want to address. I love the black community and I'm want to like, I always ride and support for the black community hard. But what I notice is even when I ride for the black community, black people want to always be like, you're not black. Okay, cool. So when I start writing with my other side and I'm on some Persian shit, Iran and all this. Oh, you want to be. You don't want to accept your black side. Which one is it, honey? Y' all be so mad. Like Amber Rose when she wanted to be black, y' all didn't want her to be black. Now she with the Trumps and all this. Now you don't want her to be white. You don't want her to be that. Now she don't. She don't want to accept her black side. Which one is it? Because, y', all, every day is something else. When I try to ride for black people. You're not even black. Okay, cool. I'm black. I'm very much black. But I'm not about to sit here and convince y' all that I'm black. I don't care enough. So at the end of the day, we gotta stop being our own. We're like an enemy to each other at this point. And it's just so draining with that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we. What. What. What you want me to do?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'm crossover, and it gets to be draining. Then where do you go from there?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What you mean?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Like, when you cross over, you go white, you know, or.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm not saying that I'm going white or Spanish or none of those things.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
When you go there, when it get difficult and, you know, you go through some adversity on that side, then where you gonna go? Then? You gonna. What you gonna say then? Cause it ain't we not immune to just black people. This is situations that go on in other races, too, where you gonna have to go through something. Like I said, sitting at the family, you know what else is going to come into play? Religion. Oh, is she. Oh, she's not Catholic or she's not Muslim, or.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, no, honey, no, I understand all of that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
And I think other things that you deal with, at least you know how to deal with your people.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Well, you the main one who was just saying how you want to go out the country and do all this with these other races. So now you want to defend this other side. Like, at the end of the day, there's always going to be something you do with me personally.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I said, I mean, on the outside, I get it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But then now you're saying, I'm just
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
giving, you know, relationship advice.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Now you're saying it's this.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I didn't say what I wanted. I can deal with it.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay, so there you go.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I can deal with the. I could deal with the adversity of black women. I could deal with the drama and trauma that come with dealing with, you know, all of that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think that obviously I could deal with it, too. But I will say this. There was a time that I dated someone who wasn't black, actually, and they were not white at all. They were Spanish, Mexican. And there was a lot of issues within that relationship, because it was one of them things where it was just like, oh, we always butted heads about stuff about black and this and that. And then they were like, I don't like that you're so pro black. And I'm like, wait, what? You know what I mean. Like, there was a lot of things that we got into about the black stuff, but, you know, there was a lot of positive dope things too. So, like, I do think that no matter who you you're with and who you go with, you just said you
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
ready to go to the other side and now you complaining about the other side.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I didn't say that I was ready. I never said I was ready to go the other side. I said, I get why people go to the other side. Just like you said, you people go out the country, you get it, French, Montana. I'm not saying I'm ready to go there. I want to stick with my black people.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
This is what I will say in a relationship before you go white, mescan, Italian or whatever race, first learn about their culture.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I agree with that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I think once you start to understand they culture and then you implement yourself into a relationship with them. But having an understanding of the culture, it'll probably make things more understanding and easier. Don't just go into it blindly. Like, hang out with them first. Don't just jump into nothing. See what it's all about.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, but you can't help but like,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
you might meet individual. Don't just focus on the individual, focus on the things around them.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But you might meet someone that you just love and you're like, okay, they're Mexican, like, okay, they're white, like, whatever, you might just meet that and then boom. But it's a two way street. Like you, like, for me, I feel like, love who you want to love. But what I will say is the common denominator that I'm hearing from a lot of black women that I've spoken to recently is like, I'm exhausted by black love. And I want to now be done with these black men. Because I feel like black men are so traumatized from how they were raised and the things that they've been through that they are just like getting into these relationships and they're traumatizing us with all their baggage, all the negativity, like all the stuff that they're dealing with. Not knowing how to be committed and faithful in a relationship, not knowing how to be loyal, not knowing how to like express themselves. They're suppressed and they the most loyal. I think that Black women are most loyal to black men because that's. I think Indians are loyal to each other. I think Chinese are loyal to each other. They're loyal to their own. Like if you notice that other cultures, Chinese, Indians, all them, they stick with each other. Like they all be with each other. They have their own businesses, they open up whatever they open up, they all commit, they all stick together relationship wise.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You said they all.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think they all. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that answer.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They're more loyal to their partner. You know why? Cause no, nobody else want them.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm dead.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
We worldwide, right, but that's, we can get with every culture.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But see again, but what is the point of you could get. Okay, temptation is there.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Like no, we can have a full blown relationship with any race in the world, right?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But what I'm saying is that doesn't have anything to do with how loyal you can be within your relations. If you have a relationship and you
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
commit has a lot to do with it. You know why? Because the black man doors open to the world. When you're a certain race and you see in your culture that your race only dates your race. You don't even know how to talk to like say, let's say an Indian dude. Like how he know how to talk to a black girl if he not Americanized, right?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But what I'm saying is if you decide to be in a committed relationship, that doesn't give you an excuse to be unfaithful because you feel like you have options. I feel like I have options too. That doesn't mean I'm gonna go cheat on my partner. That doesn't mean I'm gonna be disloyal. And that's a sorry excuse for not knowing how to be a loyal person, period. So if black men, if that's their excuse because every race wants them, so that's why they can't be loyal, then yeah, maybe we shouldn't be dating black men.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
And the reason why other races are
Host (Cesar Faraday)
loyal because again, does it make sense? It doesn't make sense. But it doesn't matter. We're not talking about outside your race. I'm talking about being in a committed relationship and deciding I want to be in this relationship and I'm not going to cheat because I have loyalty to my partner. They don't matter who wants you at that point. Because a woman could say the same thing. I have a thing. And men want me every day. For all.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'm speaking for men, black Men. And I'm speaking for, like, all the other races as men. The options ain't the same for a black man as it is for them. We got more options. And, like, when we go out. Go any country, they. Hey.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But my point is, why does that make it. Why does it make it to where you're. Yeah, they fetishize you. I love that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Well, if you're not being fetishized everywhere, you stick with what you know. You got to stay in this lane.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But my point is. So you're saying that's an excuse for y' all to be.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Excuse. It's just saying. I'm telling you the reason why black men cheat more. No, I'm telling you why. Because that's not. That's not what we said.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You're not listening to what I'm saying, then. You keep talking about something, and you're not listening to what I'm saying.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
We have more options than any other race then.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So that makes you guys more unfaithful to your partners and cheat more. Because that's the conversation.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The more.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
The more the temptation, the more the temptation. Right? So then as a black woman, sometimes
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
you bite the apple.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So as a black woman, we don't want to deal with that. Y' all want to go have all these options. A lot of the options that you think you have are not real. You can go sleep with this woman. Cool. She gonna be a headache.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So y' all are gonna go with a Chinese man?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I don't want to be with a Chinese man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Chinese man don't want you. Maybe.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, probably. I bet you. I bet you I can find a Chinese. I bet you I can find a race of every man who wants me.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Bet you can't.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I bet you a million dollars I can. I bet you I could find a Chinese man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I mean, they can want you, like, sexually, but, like, you ain't going to relate to them.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I bet you I can. I bet you I can. I bet you I could find any race of man that wants you. I guarantee I could. Okay. I bet you I can. I bet you I can get with any race I want. I guarantee I can. And have a relationship.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
We need to film this. Let's go out. We gonna go to China first.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay. I. The Chinese man has one.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
We gonna go there first.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You don't think there's Asian men that want black women? There's a bunch. Why do you think there's so many black Asians?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'm sure there is.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like, Asians want that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'm saying we're gonna go to their culture, though. Not America. Not the Americanized ones.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. You think these women really want y'? All? Chinese don't want y' all either. They don't want y'. All. Like, that's what you don't get. They could sex with you. They don't want y'. All. Like, they not dealing with what y' all got. I guarantee the Chinese women are like, yeah. Matter of fact, there is a Chinese girl that was on a podcast, swear to God. And she was like, we have sex with the black man because they da, da, da, da. But we'll never be with the black man. We don't want them. We don't want black men. They don't want y'. All. For real. You guys think that everybody really wants y'. All. They want what you have to offer. Wanting someone for real and wanting what they have to offer are two different things. But since y' all want to think that it's the same, y' all end up in relationships where you're giving more than you're getting. And that's how y' all be. That's how y' all be so messed up in the head about. Women are so messed up because y' all get with women who don't want y'.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
All.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
For real. Y' all have so many relationships with women who do not want y'. All. Matter of fact, this girl was on stream, Boston Richie, whoever that is, He's a famous rapper. I guess his ex girlfriend was on stream. They were together for almost three years. And she said, I never wanted him. I wanted him for the money. And I. And she. She ran the play. She was like, when you have a. When you have a play that you're gonna run, you gotta execute it. Like, many women are playing y'. All. And then y'. All.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I think that's all women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, that's all women. But that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So what's the difference if women don't want nothing but what men in general have to offer? So don't even say that's black men. That's. Women do that for all men.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What I'm trying to say is this what is happening, and I think why women are traumatized is because the good women. I don't think men want good women anymore. First of all, I think that that's a big thing, and that's been a conversation right now that's been on threads like, men don't really want good women anymore. Because what it is is y' all are okay with just being used. Because when you get a good woman, you actually have to treat her right. And you will feel guilty when you hurt her. So you'd rather be with a woman who don't really want you for real. Because when you hurt her, when you cheat because you don't have the discipline to stay faithful, you don't feel as bad because you know she don't even want you. She wants you for your money. So everyone is in these empty relationships and in relationships where people don't really love them for real. And that's what I think is happening. Because at the end of the day, when you get with a good woman, you actually have to feel guilt around doing her dirty. When you get with a woman who actually loves you, it hurts more to hurt her. But when you're with a woman who you know is just using you for your money, then at the end of the day, it don't really matter what you do to her, because you getting what you want, I'm getting what I'm want. You're here, you're filling a gap. When I'm lonely and at any other moment that I don't have that gap filled, I'll get go fill a gap, another gap with another bride. That's what's happening right now. And I think it's this cycle. And that's why the people who are good women, they're getting so scorned and hurt because it's like, like, how is me being a good person? How is that benefiting me? Like, I feel like a lot of good women that I know are starting to feel so discouraged because they're like, damn, where is me being a good woman? How is that?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What's a good woman?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think a good woman is just a good person. Like, I think being a good person, I'm not even just saying a good
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
woman, a good person, be a good woman.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm not saying that you could be a hoe and you could be a good person. But I'm saying what I'm saying is a good woman. And a good person is someone who's not using someone or misusing them, who is not in a relationship, trying to connive, who is disloyal, who is actually somewhere because they love you and they want to make you a better person. That someone who could be vulnerable, someone who's honest, who shows up in the ways that you're supposed to show up. You know what a good person is? A genuine person, a good woman.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Are there any black good Women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yes, of course.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What race you think got the most good women?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I don't know. I really don't know.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What if you just had to choose black good?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I do. I don't know why you think that's funny. I think that there's a lot of black good women. Like, literally, I'm saying, what race you
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
think got the most black?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm always gonna say that. And I think that it's because when I don't think it's black, I think white women are raised to run the play a lot. And I think that other races. No, I don't. I think that black women. I think that black culture is the only culture that still wants love and puts love on a pedestal. I think that's the problem. Other cultures are businesses. Love is a business. Chinese, Indian, white people, they get together as a business. Black people are the only culture that still care about love and want to be loved. That's why we're the only people sitting on podcasts all day talking about love.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I think the period. The most loyal and the most good women. If I had to think culturally, I think it's Chinese and Mexican.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I mean, I do. I mean, I'm just saying they know they hold family values. They know how to treat their man. They hold their man up to a standard. They ain't quick to run, and they ain't posting them on Instagram. I ain't never seeing them like, look at this. Look at this. Like, you know what I'm saying? Then when the relationship over, they not dragging them. Like, I feel like our race, we drag our. Like, I'm tired of seeing that on Instagram. When you break up, man, you drag them. Now, damn, y' all was just in love. Now, why you don't have to just leave peacefully? Clean break.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I don't think that's true at all. I've seen so many Mexican women do shit like that a lot, So I don't believe that at all. And I've seen it happen, like, firsthand, so I know that that's not true. True. So I don't believe that Chinese. I ain't see the Chinese do nothing, so I could probably agree with you on that. I don't see Chinese do nothing, really. So I'm not gonna disagree with that. But I can definitely say Mexicans. I didn't see them get angry as hell and do all type of crazy. I've seen that firsthand. I'm from la. I've seen all of that. But I will say Chinese. I Don't know about Chinese, but I don't see that about Chinese. I don't see that about Indian women either. But, you know, maybe, like, at the end of the day, I think that also, like, I will stand on this, and I'm going to stand 10 toes down on this. Black women have been traumatized by black men. Period, point blank. Period, point blank. And that has a lot to do with the hurt and the way that black women are acting these days. And black men think they don't have anything to do with that. And that is a lie. At the end of the day, a lot of black men have traumatized these women and have made them scorned and bitter. And now we're in a competition with who doesn't care more, who doesn't give a fuck less. Oh, we want to pretend we all don't care. We're in a war of who cares less, who can do more, who's more cracking. This is the competition we're in, and we're steering away from real love and real commitment every single day at the end of the day. So I just feel like black men have to take accountability in the role that they played.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Wait, what?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Black men have to take accountability?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Black men or women? Huh?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Both, but definitely black men in the. I'm talking about in the role that they played in creating this hurt and this pain. Because what we have seen historically is like, a black woman will be loyal, and they'll be holding a black man down through all of his transgressions and everything that he goes through. And then as soon as he. Soon as he gets up and gets some money, he's leaving that black woman for a different type of chick.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So it should be a new slogan now that says, black women don't cheat. Right?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What does it have to do with anything?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, I'm just saying, though, like, since. Since we traumatizing y', all, that mean y' all loyal. Y' all don't do shit.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm not saying that. And that's the thing. Like, again, that's the. That's you going into a victim mentality. I'm not saying that Black women don't do anything. We're human. We make mistakes, and we're going to do a lot. But at the same time, you cannot sit here and tell me that you have not seen, historically, black men cheat, lie, hurt, cheat on them while they're pregnant, break them down, make them feel like shit. You have. You've seen that. You've seen that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I've seen that with every race, it just artists more publicized and put on social media more.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You just said that you don't see that with racist.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It happens in all races. It happens in humanity. Ours is just more publicized because we got more public figures. And when you see more famous.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So you think that a woman with a white man is dealing with the same shit they're dealing with dealing with a black man?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, it's different type of, like, stuff that's going on in the household. Like, what you mean? It's like, do I think a white couple and a black couple deal with the same things? Of course not. There's two things an issue is an issue regardless of.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Do you think that the white man is putting their woman through the same shit that a black man puts through their woman?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So what is a black man putting their woman through?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What aren't they putting their woman through? Like black men, they make you struggle for love. They put you through everything. To love them, you gotta struggle for love.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Why you wanna mess with black men? Then if you know all of this and everything that you're saying is true about the black race and you saying, hey, if I go over here, this is more peaceful, make it make sense. Then why do you continue to be insane?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So the same reason you said you still deal with black women after you sat on this podcast multiple times.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I didn't complain about black women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, you did.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I didn't complain about black women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Darnell, put this shit. This man is the. This man is the most delusional man I have ever met. This is appalling. Do you see what the people that are working on this set just have the facial expression. When you said that you have complained about black women on blogs, what you mean complain?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Give me one example how I complain. Say what I say. If you know so much what I say.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Other races are so much better than black.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I never said that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Black women treat black men way better than black women. You go to these other cultures, and these other cultures know how to the family unit. They know how to take care of a man. They know how to make a man feel good. Black women don't listen to their man. They don't take accountability. They don't. Yeah. You said on this podcast a million times. And I would really love Darnell, if we could put in all them clips right here like we always do. Like we always do. When he say, you say nothing. We gonna put in all them clips. The same reason you sat up here multiple times in front of a black woman and said how other races are so much better than a black woman.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I never said they so much better.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Paul, are you crazy?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
This is what you have to do when you look at it. This is what I say. I said some things about other races that are better than black women. But if we break down what a black woman give based on other races, what they give. I like this.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But she never said that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I like this list.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
This is the first time you said,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I can deal with this list.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's the first time you said this.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Then deal with this. I'm just saying these are the things that I don't get from here. But all these other things I like more that outweighs.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But you've never said this. This is the first time you've said this. You sat there and you made so many black women feel offended. So many. Because you said how other races are so much better than us.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I didn't say better. You have certain things. I said other races better than black when I said certain things. Yeah, but that didn't mean as a whole that they were better, because as a whole, I don't agree.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Darnell, when you do this edit, I need you to go back.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You trying to have them come for me? Nah, that ain't happening.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, it's too late. They already know you said this. Like, everyone already knows I said certain
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
things in other races are better than the black woman. But when I look at the big
Host (Cesar Faraday)
picture, you never said this.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Of when I say, oh, you've never said this. Maybe you got one. Or this is like, if you compare two players and I say, this player got this in his game, and he got this in his game. That don't mean he better. He just got certain things that he ain't got.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's what I'm saying.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
But overall, he's the better player.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
See, you love backpedaling. This is the first time you've ever said it like that. You sat there and you said, french Montana is smart. Go get you a foreign woman out the country, woman. Foreign women are better.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They're gonna say better.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, you did, Paul. I cannot wait till we put it in here, because guess what? I know you said it because I was offended.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Us black man. I'm telling y', all, we need to follow in French Montana steps. You see, he cracking. He's cracking like, man, I'm out here with these. No, I am good.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Don't. Don't listen to Paul. There's women in the States that are cool and a vibe the. So there's women.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The state's women they don't have the same values as these women overseas. They value. They man, they priorities. They man. First, they not shaking ass on Instagram.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Not every woman is doing that, Paul.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's. That's American women. That's the majority.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, not every woman is doing that, though. I'm not doing that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
American men, no matter what race she is based on like our influences, what we watch on tv, what we glorify. I think we really gotta go overseas to find that them traits that you talking about. Cause they exuberate all that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's wild.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They look at all that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Do you feel like, why do you feel like men, especially NBA players get with the white women? Is it cause they're easy? Quote unquote. I got some theories, but I really wanna hear it from him. I do too. I wanna hear it too.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I honestly too think that maybe they appreciate maybe more and they apologize more.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Because I'm sitting here as a black woman highly offended that Paul is saying this. And yes, you did say that other
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
certain races got better things, but not overall.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But you never said that part.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Well, that's what I meant.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So now you, you back, like, he's like, everyone knows how crazy you are. Like, yeah. Now all of a sudden, now you, you, you, you, you, you're tripping. You're meeting the entire world. Yeah, okay.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I just said like right now, if you look at the NBA, the rookie of the year race, the guy is going to win rookie of the year. Con canpo. But that don't mean he better than Cooper flag. But he's just having a little. I just want you to know that's what I'm saying.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
NBC.com NBA legend found himself in controversy advertising black men that it would be better to date internationally. Paul Pierce says black women should date women from overseas. French Montana is one of the pri. He's out of here with the American woman and black woman. He got himself a princess from side. That's why black men need to be doing these women overseas, they appreciate you. They put you first. They ain't on Instagram shaking for likes, unlike black women. Okay, Black women, now let me get. And there's more. Would you like me to continue?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, no, let me say.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, no, let me. Let me say what I have to say though. You said all of that and I want you to be very clear that that's not the first time you said it.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You said it. You know what black man should go see because then you get to see what you like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You know what I'm saying?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It's like trying new food. You don't know if you don't like new food.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Backpedal, you backpedal.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I say try new food all the time. You backpedal because you don't know if you like it, it may be better you backpedal.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So for that time, you backpedal so much. So I say all this to say throughout you saying this in the history of this podcast that me and you have had, you said it so many times. And trust me, I know because I've been very offended and hurt by your comments. But I will say this. Throughout the history of you saying these things, I have never once said f. Black men. Black men are not it.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Nothing.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Nothing. But today I have came to a new realization that if black men are feeling this way, because I see so many black men saying this and it hurts us as a community and as black women. So I'm going to encourage a Zendaya or another race, if they feel like they found solace in another race that makes them feel confident and good as a woman, then go do that. Because why are we trying to convince black men that we are worthy? It is not our job to convince somebody of our value and our worth.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Let me see this Zendaya girl. Let me see her again. Let me pull her up. Let me see this. I gotta see.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What does this have to do?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I can explain probably why she's doing what she's doing.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Listen to what I'm saying, though. It's not our job as black women to constantly prove to black men that we are worthy of their love. And when we do get the love, a lot of women have to struggle for it and have to go through hell and high water to show that they are worthy to actually have a faithful, loyal man on their side. Side. And all I am saying, if a Zendaya, if another race, if they want to go do that, then go do that. Who am I to tell you not? Maybe it's cool, maybe it's this. But there's so many black men I see on the Internet constantly. And people want to, like, when I say stuff like that, they're like, what are you saying? Whatever. I see it every day. I can put a compilation of so many men saying this about black women, about how go overseas, about how other races are better and how this and that. And as a black woman, as much as that hurts us, maybe we need to realize that we're not valued here. Maybe we need to realize that, hey, we're not worthy to be here. And I get Where I am kind of, I'm mixed. So I understand that I don't fully fall into that category because people view me as a mixed girl, and maybe that's different. But whatever the case is, I feel like it's so important that we understand and go where we're appreciated and loved and valued. And that's not me saying I'm gonna go date a white man. Because to be honest, I am way too much for a white man. I. What I am as a woman, like, I'm rough around the edges. I'm not perfect. I have a lot. And, you know, I feel like I am going to stay. You know, I. I love black man. I'm a rock with y' all till the very end. I'm gonna deal with the abuse. I've been doing it this for this long. So I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep. Hopefully I get my black love story. I pray that I really do, because that's what I want and that's what I've always wanted. But, you know, we gonna see me. I don't know. But you know, I'm rocking with y' all because I don't believe that all black men are shady. I don't believe that all black men are. Are. Are messed up. But I do believe that we are hurting as a community and that we need to see the value in each other more and understand that, you know, there is love here. Like, I'm tired of the bashing of each other. Like, I'm just tired of that. And I want us to all feel love with each other. And again, if you are someone who is like Paul and feels like overseas women can be better for you, go do that. But let's.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Your daddy did. First of all, your daddy did. How long he been married?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Cool. That's good for him. Yeah, my dad.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It worked out, didn't it, for him?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I have no comment on that one. Cause trust me when I tell you,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
he knew it was up back in the day.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, but trust me when I tell you there's a cost to pay with all of that. Trust me.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Your daddy been with your mama how long.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Trust me when I tell you. I'm not gonna get into that right now.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's solid. Hey, pops, you did your thing at
Host (Cesar Faraday)
the end of the day, so that's.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's valid point. He went over.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
It's not a valid point, but I'm not gonna sit up on this camera and tell my family business. But it's not a valid point. And that is the reason that I actually feel so strongly about what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, all I'm gonna tell you is you go where you're loved and appreciated. If that's what a white man, if that's what an overseas woman, if that's what a Mexican, go do that. At the end of the day, why
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
are you telling me to go do that? When you came on, started the show saying that's what you wanted to do,
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I didn't say I wanted to do that. I talked about Zendaya and Tom Holland. I said, good for her. If. If people want to go feeling lately,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
this is what you saying.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I said, yeah, the way that I'm feeling lately is where I used to be. So pro black love. And I hate that you're saying you go overseas. What I realize is go where you're loved and appreciate. If you are loved and appreciated over here and you feel like this is what you like, you want to go overseas, you want to be with a Mexican, you want to be with this, go do that. Like, I'm done trying to advocate for black people to stay together. That's all I'm saying.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Black women market ain't the same as the black man market. It's just not.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What do you mean?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Like. Like, black women ain't accepted in all the cultures.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I can understand that. But you'll be surprised because how we
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
are perceived, like, how black women are perceived to other races, they like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, they think that about y', all, too. You just don't realize that. Trust me, they think that about y', all, too. They. They mess with y' all if. Because you have certain stuff. But when you get into that family for real, they don't like you either. I promise you that. I've seen it firsthand, trust me.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
One situation.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I've seen so many situations. They do not.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You know what we need to do for this show? We need to bring on multi. We need to bring on, like, different couples. Multiracial, interracial. Interracial couples on the show and just talk to them about their dynamic.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, that's fine. We can do that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Pros and cons and what y' all hurdles that y' all face being.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
We could start with my mom and
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
dad, you know, that y', all, you know, face. You know what I'm saying?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So a lot that go into it, like, you know, like, culturally, what you like to do and what you like to do, what you like to watch, what you like to watch. What religion are you? What religion Are you again?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like I said, I think a lot
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
of hurdles when you.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You are saying black women aren't as accepted. And I get what you're saying, but neither are black men. You just think you are. It's not the same.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It is not. We are.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You're not accepted. That's a delusion. If you think that other races. Black women can go everywhere, too.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You can't go to China.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I've been like, yeah, you can. What are you talking about? Black. You know that. My homegirl. You know my homegirl, Alex. Shout out to. Alex just moved to China as a black woman with her own clothing brand called Local Europeans.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah. Because that's how the manufacturers are.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But you. She's accepted and the Chinese man is on her. She told me so. Stop. Like, you sound crazy out there.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It don't matter. Labor and she's over there doing business.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, she's over there. She didn't have to move there. She's been in her.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
She's saving terrorist money. Let's get to the nitty gritty.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
She wanted to move to China.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
She don't have to.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, she didn't. She did not have to move to China.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah, no, she didn't. Millions probably didn't have to move.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Hundreds of thousands.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The point is black women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You want to tell yourself this story, Black women can get it, too. Trust me. Like, it's not what you think it is. Like, men swear black women are cracking places, too. Like, don't ever get it twisted, okay? Just like you think that black men are fetishized and everyone likes black women. What do you think the most beautiful race is? Who do you think is copying us?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The most beautiful race?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, black people. That's why they hated us back in the day. We had the lips, we have the features, we have the body, we have all of that. Period, point blank. The only thing they can ever fight over. When white people, will y' all straighten your hair to look like us? That's the only thing y' all got. So y' all can have that. At the end of the day, most
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
beautiful is the black women. Yes.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. So at the end of the day. What are you talking about? Racist? All the culture, Kim Kardashian, everyone. They model themselves to look like black women. Period, point blank. So stop trying to say that black women could go everywhere. Like, we're cracking. We are the most beautiful race of all cultures. You want to know what else I always say? I always say this. Black is what makes it look good. Okay? At the end of the day, when you look exotic, at the end of the day, listen, listen. You look exotic. Listen to what I'm saying. I always say this. You look exotic, right? They're like, oh, you're exotic because you're mixed. Okay, cool. If I was Persian and white, I would not look as beautiful as I look. If I was a. If they were Asian and white, they would not look as beautiful. What makes it cracking is when you mix that black. That's why they want to get with y' all black make so their kids can look a certain way. The black is what makes it pop, period. The point blank. The black is what makes it exotic. The black is what makes it pop. The black is what makes it look foreign and exotic and cracking. I know this for a fact because I've seen Persian whites and Persians and other mix. They do not look like me. Same gene pool. Don't look like how I look like. I'm just telling you the truth. So black is what makes things look exotic. And they have to train our minds to make it seem like it's the Asian that's making us look exotic. But it's not.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It's the black man going for those other races, not the.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's not true. The black women go for other races, too. And now more and more, they are doing it it. And that's why I said, if y' all want to go do that and get that cracking, I'm not mad at that. Because now you know what else is happening? These Persian, Arabic, like, Indian. These men are getting flavor about themselves, and they coming for these black women, honey. They starting to get like. I see it. And they're like, yeah, they get in that flavor. These white men, they like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They like the culture. They like the flavor. They're getting the confidence. See, it was the fact that those. Those other races, they lack the confidence to approach a black woman because they seem intimidating. But now with social media and all this stuff, when they can slide in their dms. Oh, yeah, you should see. Oh, oh, they slide, honey. All them races. Is they sliding? It was that they lacked the confidence because they are intimidated by black women now. They're getting that confidence, and they're getting that flavor about them, and they're sliding in them dms and they approaching these black women. I'm telling you.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
All right, so all you other races, that sliding in these black women dm, that's getting y' all flavor up and doing all this.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Flavor up.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
They're getting their flavor up.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Let me tell you Something. These black women coming after y'. All. Cause they like, we can finesse y'.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
All.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
We can finesse y' all more than we can do because. Because these black men, they own to us now. Y' all can. Now it's a new finesse game now.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, I don't think that's what it is. I think that black women are tired of struggling for love. And when you look at the other races and see how historically they seem like they're just more peaceful, you're like, okay, let me try this out. Because like you said, it's insanity. I'm trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, but I'm not getting different results. So maybe I need to broaden my horizon and get with these flavored up Indians and get with these flavored up white.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What you mean, flavored up?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
They got some bread.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They got money. They got some money. They got some money.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm talking about they got flavor.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They got some bread.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, I'm talking about flavor. Then their aura. They're like, they got some bread.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
If they doing.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, their aura, their energy, their swag. They're this.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They get in that energy, dude. Or they got some. Some bread. If not, they just.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Unfortunately for me, I have been, like, not attracted to any other race but black man. And, you know, that's just.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Why you just say you was with a Mexican dude.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I wasn't with a Mexican dude. I'm saying, like, I have tried other races. Even when I was young, I used to like Mexican. My first crush, I lived in Guadalajara. My first boyfriend named Carlos was Mexican, and he learned how to speak English to ask me to be his girlfriend. He took me to see men in black and Spanish. So at the end of the day,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
he told you to see many black and Spanish?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I swear to God. His name was Carlos.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's crazy.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So, yeah, I like Mexicans, and I've always thought Mexicans were cool. But for me, now, I feel like I am only really right now in my life. Like, I like black men, and I.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You contradict yourself so much on this episode.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Well, you contradict yourself all the time. So I guess we're two peas in a pod, baby. Cause you say all type of shit every day that don't make no sense. You say one whole thing, I say one whole thing. So, yeah, people, why am I to contradict myself? But I'm telling you that at the end of the day, I still believe in black love. But if you want to go explore out, I'm not Gonna fight it anymore? I'm not gonna fight it.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You the one came on here talking about you wanted to explore out.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I never said I wanted to do that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You putting everything. Everything you wanted to do, you putting it on me now. What you mean because you came in, like, maybe I should start looking in that direction?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I didn't say that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Oh, gosh. We're gonna rewind this.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Rewind this and see if I said that. I said that. I'm not mad at women for doing that. We're talking about Tom Holland and Zendaya. I'm saying I'm not mad at that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Let me see Sunday again.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay, let me show you. What's her name?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Zendaya.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You said Zendaya.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Zendaya, right?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Zen.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Zz. Okay, let me see. I mean, let me see what this look like. Like, straight up. I need to see. I' ma tell you straight up what I think. Give me some. Let me see. Let me see the whole. She's Spanish.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
She's not. She's black.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Her parents are both, you know, look, look. You know what I'm saying? Let me see.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
This is her and her man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Let me see. Let me see what this doing? Let me see. Okay, all right, all right, all right. Okay, all right.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
He's short, she's tall. She's tall.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
So, okay, so she just don't sleep
Host (Cesar Faraday)
on the short kings. Because the short kings, they, they, they, they say they treat you right.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
All right, I see why she went in that direction. She's half black, by the way.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, what is her. She's white.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah, I see. I can see.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
What does that mean, Paul?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'm just saying. I see. You know, I'm just saying, you know, she ain't really built like the, you know, you know, like the ones.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, here.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Look like tall, real skinny.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I mean, you know, you can get a black man. She just.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I mean, you can, but, you know, the black race, like, I'm just out of this.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm out of here. Cause this is getting crazy.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Like, see, this is kind of like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
She's beautiful.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Straight up and down, she's beautiful.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
And at the end of the day,
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
like, you know, that's, you know, the black community, what we like, we like a little more curve.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
See, this is why it's the truth. I had a whole segment to do today, and we started talking about this.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I mean, this is a good conversation. I mean, I see why, you know, they accepted her because they, you know, that's what they like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
White men like a little ass, too.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I see. A little ass. I see.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Right?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You're right. They do. Like, the little ones.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, I'm saying white men. They, they, they, they, they, they. They. They be on shit. Like, you'll be surprised. They be on shit.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They like the little ass. You. Right. The little ones.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
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Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Okay?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay. Would you rather your partner cheat physically one time and never again, or have an emotional affair for months but then cut it off? Probably an emotional affair for months and not physically cheat.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah, not physically, because the physical can turn and you leave. Emotional.
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Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Emotional, too.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Emotional turns into.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
But once it gets physical, it changes the dynamic. You know, if it's just words and feelings and all that.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's a lot.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That is a lot.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That means your heart is somewhere else. Like, I'd rather someone just cheat. Fuck up one time.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
When women have sex with another dude, they already. Emotionally.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I could see that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Liking the dude or loving the guy anyway.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But what if she just, like, if
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
you just doing it and it could be long, long distance and y' all never meet.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. That emotional affair, though, that pulls on your heart straight.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You like what he's saying on the words. Words is so much. Can go so much. But physical attraction is different than, you know, words and emotional attraction you get. I think it's hard to get emotional attraction without physical attraction.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, that's not true.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I think it's hard.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think you have to be physically attractive. But that's the thing. If you're having an emotional affair for months, you're physically attracted to this person, and now this is the person. So for me, it's like physically attracted
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
until you get physical.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
But you could be physically travel, knock. It's physical. And you could be emotional, and you could be like, this is now the person that I want to call when something exciting happens. This is the person that now when I'm driving home from work, I want to be on the phone with this person. This is the person now that when I'm crying and I'm sad, I'm not going to my man no more. I'm going to this person. And that, to me, like, if I find out a man cheated, I'm I. I'm gonna be so hot.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You emotional attraction for months or physical?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'd rather you fuck somebody one time.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
One time.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
And then you're like, it was a mistake. I'm never gonna do it again. I'm gonna be. It depends on who it is, first of all. But if it's like a random situation and it's a one off and you could block this person, we never talked to them again and we get past it, cool. I could deal with that and I could possibly get past that. But if you're telling a woman you love them and you're talking to somebody
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
every day but never met them, like, say it's long distance.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, that's blowing me. Like, you. You what?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You can never get over that they never met.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I don't know if I can get over it or not. But why are you. Why, like, was I not enough? Like, could you not call me?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You don't say that about when they get physical too.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
It's the same thing. But you may. The physical interaction, the one time could be like, I got. Like I said, it depends on who it is. But if it's someone that you have to deal with, I'm not. I'm done. Period. But if it's someone that's a one time thing and it's like you're never. We could just never see this person again and we could possibly get past that, then yeah. But emotional means that your heart is in it, especially for a man.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Example, say like you at work, you're in an office building and it's a lady that he got physical with one time, but you see her every day.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, it's over for that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
But you said one time.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, I said it depends on who it is. If you see her every day, if it's your baby mom, if it's your office person, if it's someone that you work with, it's over for me. I'm not fucking with you no more because now there's nothing I can do. You're not gonna quit your job. You're not gonna.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's what I'm saying. The girl works with the other girl that he was physical with. He don't see her, but you see her again.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
If it's someone that has to be in every day or gonna not can't just disappear. I'm not doing all that. First of all, you're disrespectful. Why are you having sex with someone at my job? Not only are you cheating, but you a disrespectful person to let me sit
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
in a woman's face already disrespect by being physical with them.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
So it's even more disrespect. Okay, so guess what? Imagine if you have a podcast with KG and your girl has sex with kg. It's over time. It's over. It's not matter if it was one time. You're never talking to this broad again. Stop playing.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, I, I said, I said I'd rather the emotional though.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, it's a rap regardless. Okay, imagine if she's talking to KG every day on the phone and texting in their boot up for months and. But they don't see each other.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
But why has it got to be somebody your friend?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Because you're saying that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, I didn't say it's your friend. It's just somebody you, okay, you work with.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Let's just say you work with him. Whatever. Someone you work with, she's now booed up like. It's just. First of all, it's so disrespectful. Don't mess with no one. I have to. Like the respect level is crazy. Like you, you. You just went and messed with somebody I work with every day. That's weird. That's so disrespectful. On a whole new level, if you mess with anyone. I've said this on this show, and I mean this. If you are physical or even emotional with anybody that has to stay in our lives, I am done.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Yeah.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Dead ass. Like, there's no if.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I find nobody has to stay in your life.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I mean, if it's like a baby mom, you gotta stay in the life. That's someone that you're gonna deal with for the rest of your life, period.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
That's not true.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like, that sounds stupid.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
The kids is 18. You ain't gonna do.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, but imagine if the kid is two. Imagine if the kid is seven. You got eight more years, 10 more years. So I have to deal with this person.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What do you mean deal with them? Like, see him.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
This is someone that your man is going to have to deal with. You share a child. You, if you're in that man's life, hopefully have a relationship with the child. If y' all live together, they are going to have to interact either on a daily basis, a weekly basis, or in some capacity on birthdays. Yeah, it is you. People talk to their baby moms every day. Sending videos and doing this and that. They have to interact with them. If someone cheats on me in that capacity and fucks with Them, it's over. It's over 100%. If I have proof of that, I'm good. Because these are people that you have to deal with. For the rest, until the kid is 18, you're gonna have to be in places and spaces with them. You're gonna have to go places with that person. For you to say that's a lie is just diabolical.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It's not diabolical. Cause I know people who don't deal with the baby mom. They deal with the, like the grandma. Like the changing of the kid might go meet, take them to the grandma or the grandfather.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, but what I'm saying is they'll pick them up.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
They'll. They don't have to talk. The grandma or the grandfather will call her, get the transaction, he'll go over there, get the kids.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, but most people.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
A lot of people do that, but
Host (Cesar Faraday)
a lot of people don't. All I'm saying is if I'm in a situation where it's someone who's dealing directly with that and that happens, that's cool. I'm good. Like, at the end of the day, that's just what it is. Most people still have to interact with this person. And if someone you work with, like, because people cheat with the people they work with, that's why there's work wives and work husbands. And people who work together fall in love. If it's that, it's over because you have to work with this person.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
What if they married now the other person, it's over.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Like, there's no reason someone should be cheating in that capacity. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you are cheating with someone who you know is going to have to be in your life, that is up to me. And I can't look past that at all. Like, I'm not looking past that. You know what I'm saying? Got so next thing. Would you rather date someone extremely loyal but super boring? Doesn't hit it doesn't vibe. Just like, always wants to be home chilling or exciting, but, like super unpredictable. Like, just all over the place.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Probably unpredictable all over the place. I know how to deal with them. That's like 99% of the black women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
See what I'm saying?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, but that's us. That's who we are. You know, we, we, you know, we got swag. You know, we ain't boring as a culture. So that's what it is.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I think I'm a boring person. I think I'm like a chill.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I know you lying I know you fucking lying. What the hell? What the helly?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Oh, my God.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I know you lying.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay. Would you rather be with someone who has amazing sex but emotional support is, like, really poor? Like, it's not supportive. Not helping you through shit. Not there. Not consistent. Or would you rather have amazing emotional support but the sex is cool?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I'll pass.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
No, you gotta. You gotta say it's not an option to pass. You have to pay dick.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Emotion. Probably emotional support. Yeah, I'm g. Say emotion, but then
Host (Cesar Faraday)
you're going to probably cheat.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I mean, you can cheat if the sex is good. People like.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, people cheat if the sex is good, but you're more likely to cheat if it's not. You're going to be more filled by temptation. I'm not saying your answer is wrong. I was just.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I just think emotionally, you just. You just. When you. You know, as men, we help bear the weight of the world, and you need more emotional support.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I get that.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Sometimes sex can last however many hours or whatever, but then once that's over with. Well, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like, say, like, the crazy. Well, the sex and intimacy can last, you know, some. You know, some hours, but then once that's over, it's just like, damn, no fucking support, you know? So go. I'm gonna go. Emotional support and. Cool.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah, I'm. I' ma say emotional support for sure. Okay. Well, thank you to our good friends at Prize picks, America's number one sports pick app. Use code TAD and get 50 instantly in lineups when you play. Your first $5. All right. the end of the day, me, unfortunately, you know, Paul did say all those things about black women, and, you know, we're gonna put all of that in here.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Heard what I said?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
We know what you said, Paul. We know what you said, Paul and me, I still support.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I rock with the black queens. Don't even go there. I just said it's certain races. I got other things. But overall, when you look at the overall picture, I like what's over.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
You said that until today. This is your first time, so we'll
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
let you take it out of context.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay, well, I'm gonna say this. I still love black men. I think black men are incredible. I love y' all and don't ever get that twisted. But I'm also going to say that if you. If Paul wants to go date overseas and Chinese, and if, you know, if the Zendaya wants to be with Tom Holland or whatever, it's a beautiful thing. I think It's a great.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
It's all about love at the end of the day. Love is love. It don't matter what it is.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
It don't matter where. But what we're not going to continue to do is put down black women while we're trying to praise other races.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I didn't put down no black women.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
I'm not. I'm not talking to you. I'm just saying in general. I noticed that black men, they'll always be like, oh, I like this race because they do this. And black women don't, like, stop. If you like that race, just go be with that race. You know what I'm saying? Like, stop trying to put other people down. And I may have contradicted myself a million times because I want to be more like Paul, and I'm trying to, like, be. You know, let him lead by example on how to be. So, like, now I might have contradicted myself, but I still love y' all black man. I do. Do I? Do I? I do. I love y' all to life.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Damn.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Anyways, any last thoughts?
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Damn. That was one whole show segment. One segment.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
We had a whole show.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
No, I got my point across.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Yeah. Okay.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
I won today.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
You may have won, but I might have won today. I don't know. That's close.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Okay, well, at the end of the day, I love you.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Can we just call this segment at the end of the day? We need just a segment end of the day sponsored by end of the day. That's your favorite word.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
That's not a word saying, okay, that's your thing.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Or I'm like, what's the one? All right, moving on. At the end of the day, it's another thing to say. But anyway, what we got next?
Host (Cesar Faraday)
We got nothing. The show is over.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Oh, gosh.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Thank you guys so much for joining an episode of the Truth After Dark. I still love you guys. I love black people. I love black love.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Make sure you comment, like, and subscribe. Tell us your thoughts on that. This was a good conversation, man. You know, make sure you subscribe to us, like it it and tell us your thoughts. You know, ask us some questions. We'll put it on the next show.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
Peace.
Co-host (Paul Pierce)
Peace. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody, welcome to Truth After Dark.
Host (Cesar Faraday)
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Truth After Dark Segment with Cesar Faraday & Paul Pierce
Release Date: March 19, 2026
This episode of "Club Shay Shay" (Truth After Dark segment) dives deeply into the dynamics of Black relationships, interracial dating, and perceptions about loyalty, options, and gendered behavior within the Black community. Hosts Cesar Faraday and Paul Pierce discuss why prominent Black women might date outside their race, whether Black men are more likely to cheat, and persistent stereotypes about Black women and their desirability. Through heated but thoughtful debates, personal anecdotes, and culturally charged exchanges, the duo challenges assumptions and voices long-standing frustrations from both genders within Black America.
Defining "Good": Cesar asserts that a good woman (or person) is one who isn’t exploiting or manipulating a partner—loyal, loving, vulnerable, and dedicated to mutual growth. (03:23, 26:10)
Paul’s Cultural Ranking: Paul claims that “Chinese and Mexican women” hold the top spots for loyalty and goodness, suggesting family values and low drama. Cesar counters, noting personal experiences with drama in those communities too, and centering Black women’s long history with love. (03:43, 27:38)
Notable Quote:
Zendaya and Tom Holland's Marriage sparks debate about interracial dating. Paul admits unfamiliarity with Zendaya, but Cesar stresses her status in Black culture and the significance of her marrying a white man, sparking broader questions about why some Black women date outside the race. (05:20–06:55, 09:27)
Key Moment:
Complex Loyalties: Cesar voices frustration: Black women want healthy Black love but face recurring trauma, often from Black male partners. Citing her hairstylist’s experience, Cesar shares the exhaustion felt by Black women, pushing some to seek other races due to repeated disappointments. (09:30–12:45)
Black Community Policing: Cesar details being criticized for her mixed background, regardless of which side she leans toward, illustrating intra-community tension and identity policing. (13:24, 13:56)
Accountability & Trauma: Cesar reiterates that the pain in the Black community is not one-sided; Black men must acknowledge their role in Black women's cynicism and scarring. (29:57–30:10)
Quote:
Paul’s Take: Suggests Black men have the most “options” globally, thus face more temptation. He claims other men "stick with their own" due to less desirability, while Black men are wanted by all. (19:22–21:43)
Cesar’s Response: Rejects options as an excuse for infidelity and spotlights women’s loyalty; insists that staying faithful is about character, not opportunity. (20:12–21:50)
Stereotypes & Finesse: Both recognize the prevalence of people, regardless of race or gender, getting into relationships for personal gain, not love. (24:20–24:30)
Quote:
The episode is a raw, sometimes combative, always spirited discussion on the real—but often messy—nature of Black love, loyalty fatigue, interracial dating, global perceptions, and stereotypes. Both hosts share honest experiences and frustrations, disagree sharply, and repeatedly underscore the exhaustion many feel navigating love and identity in a world with persistent double standards. The takeaway: Love who treats you well, acknowledge trauma and biases, and stop tearing each other down—within Black communities and beyond.
For new listeners:
This episode offers a deeply engaging snapshot into Black relationship culture, especially as it collides with celebrity news, global stereotypes, and generational divides. The hosts' banter is honest, unfiltered, and sets up future conversations exploring interracial relationships with nuance and honesty.