Club Shay Shay – "Cheating On Your Partner, Threesomes Outside The Country, & Open-Relationships | Truth After Dark"

Release Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Cesar Faraday (Truth After Dark), supported by a co-host
Podcast: Club Shay Shay

Overview

This episode of "Truth After Dark" (a segment within Club Shay Shay) dives unapologetically into the tangled realities of modern relationships—from cheating and open relationships to threesomes, mental boundaries, and friendship dynamics. Cesar Faraday and the co-host dissect recent celebrity scandals and relatable dilemmas, blending unfiltered personal experience, social observations, and spicy hypotheticals. The tone is raw, humorous, and candid with strong opinions and lively debate.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Open Relationships & Cheating Scenarios

([03:14]–[08:07])

• Michael Blackskin Situation:

  • Recap of Michael Blackskin allegedly fathering a child outside his open marriage.
  • Cesar discusses, “I think when people are open ... sometimes if you are open, the agreement is ... we mess with women together or I approve ... but whatever the case is, it’s obviously not okay because he’s apologizing ... he fucked up.” ([04:01])
  • The co-host believes: “If it’s open, that should be cool.” ([03:43])
  • Both agree that specific agreements, not just the label "open," dictate boundaries.

• Boundaries in Open Relationships:

  • Exposing the misconception that open = no rules.
  • The importance of “record deals”—private relationship rules that outsiders don’t see.
  • “You don’t know what people’s record deal was closed when … you don’t know what people’s record deal is.” ([08:04])

2. Men and Women as Friends

([06:47]–[07:31])

• Cesar asserts, “Men and women cannot be friends, period. Like it’s some tricky always. And that’s just the truth.” ([06:47])
• The co-host disagrees but Cesar doubles down: “The only way they can be friends is if a man is genuinely not attracted to that woman or the woman friend-zoned him. The moment she does anything… it will change, period.” ([07:13])
• Sparks a debate about boundaries and respect in relationships—especially if the dynamic changes.

3. Social Media & Parenting

([08:25]–[10:24])

• Cesar criticizes parents creating and roleplaying on Instagram accounts for their children: “It takes a level of mental illness ... Like, why do you have an Instagram for your child, and you’re writing captions as if you’re the child?” ([08:25])

4. Threesomes & Rules for Extra-Relationship Sex

([11:35]–[14:19])

• Threesome Boundaries:

  • “Maybe if I went out the country, it was a random woman ... we did it. Maybe I will do it. But ... I don’t even want us to know the name of the girl.” ([12:18], [13:56])
  • Strict rules: no lingering, “she should be out of there as soon as he nuts ... it should not be from you ... I’m not going to sleep until you’re out of there, ho.” ([12:46])

• No Emotional Overlap:

  • Recurrent insistence that threesomes must stay anonymous and unrepeatable to avoid emotional entanglements.

5. Marriage Proposals: Should Women Buy Their Own Rings?

([14:42]–[19:18])

• The Mase Viral Clip:

  • Discussion over Mase’s viral statement: “If you really want to marry me, go buy your own ring.”
  • The co-host: “If you want it earlier than me ... go get the ring now, and I will ... that’ll tell me something.” ([15:38])
  • Cesar: “As a woman, I would advise no woman to ever do that ... If a man don’t want to marry you ... that’s burnt out.” ([16:38])

• Debate Over Testing Love:

  • Co-host suggests testing women’s love with extreme actions.
  • Cesar counters, “You don’t have to create tests for your partner. You are going to be tested all the time by God.” ([18:13])

6. “Cheat to Test If She Loves You” – Toxic or Real?

([19:18]–[24:10])

• Co-host provocatively says, “If you really want to know if a girl love you, you need to go out and cheat on her.” ([19:18])
• “You want to be with a woman with low self esteem. That’s the type of advice you’re giving young...” – Cesar ([19:59])
• Cesar: “That’s the worst advice you can give ... Stop trying to tell young men to go cheat on their women to test them.” ([20:12])

7. Men Who Cheat: Trust, Friendship & Business

([24:58]–[26:16])

• Noriega's stance (via Angie Martinez): “If you can disregard, disrespect your girl and cheat, I do not trust you ... What are you going to do to me if you are cheating on ... your partner?” ([24:58])
• Co-host disagrees: “I’m just doing business with you. That’s it. ... That ain’t it.” ([26:16])
• Discussion over whether cheating translates to dishonesty in other areas.

8. Women Friends and Relationship Sabotage

([29:01]–[33:27])

• Viral post: woman credits her marriage/success to ignoring her friends’ advice not to cook/clean or submit.
• The co-host: “Women really the downfall of other women’s relationships? 100% ... crabs in a barrel.” ([29:31])
• Cesar: “Stop telling your business to your friends. They’re going to be the downfall ... they’re going to now judge him.” ([29:54])
• Advice: “Don’t take advice from people you wouldn’t want to switch lives with.” ([33:27])

9. Exclusivity, Sex, and Unspoken Dating Rules

([38:19]–[44:12])

• Talking Stage Etiquette:
  • Co-host: “If we’re just talking and I’m out with another girl, don’t come up to me ... If we’re just in the talking, dating stage. Don’t do that.” ([38:33], [39:09])
• Sex Is Never Casual (for Women):
  • “Sex for women is not casual because every time a man enters you, whether you have a condom on or not, you risk getting pregnant ... and nothing about that is casual.” ([41:01])
  • Scientific note: “A woman releases a hormone while they have sex that makes them fall in love ... men don’t.” ([42:01])
• Exclusivity Should Be Explicit:
  • “Do you think that when it becomes exclusive, a man needs to ask directly?”
  • Co-host: “He has to tell her, you’re my chick.” ([44:23])

10. Sex & “Post Nut Clarity”

([44:48]–[47:06])

• “Post nut clarity” is discussed:
  • “You’re feeling a girl and then as soon as you nut, you’re like, ‘I shouldn’t have did that.’” ([44:53])
  • The co-host confirms: “That be happening to dudes ... you just get caught in a moment and you was like, damn, I was tricky.” ([46:08])

11. Is There Such a Thing as ‘Good’ or ‘Bad’ Sex for Men?

([46:48]–[50:42])

• Cesar: “Is there really, like, good vagina and, like, not good vagina—and what is that difference?” ([46:48])
• Co-host: “I think a man makes it what it’s gonna be ... if it’s not cool, then it’s on the guy.” ([47:06])
• Discussion on intimacy, physical and emotional connection.
• Talk about sex hygiene—smells, pH balance, and how both partners can impact experience.

12. Rapid-Fire Relationship Dilemmas

([50:42]–[52:42])

• Which is worse: partner cheats with your friend or your enemy?
  • Co-host: “My friend. Because now I got two enemies instead of one.” ([50:56])
• Which is worse: partner cheats with another woman or a man?
  • “My partner cheating with a man because I’m the man.” ([51:39])
• Sharing Netflix passwords with exes: No big deal; “just change and get your own account.” ([52:19])
• Old DMs between best friend and current partner: Not a threat if pre-dating.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Open Relationships:

  • “You don’t know what people’s record deal is. ... So we can have as many opinions as you want, but he’s clearly apologetic for what he has done. So clearly he broke some type of rule within what they decided upon within their own relationship.” – Cesar ([08:04])

• On Testing Relationships:

  • “You don’t have to create tests for your partner. You are going to be tested all the time by God.” – Cesar ([18:13])
  • “If you really want to know if a girl love you, you need to go out and cheat on her.” – Co-host ([19:18])

• On Social Media Parenting:

  • “Like, why do you have an Instagram for your child, and you’re writing captions as if you’re the child?” – Cesar ([08:25])

• On Sex and Relationships:

  • “Sex for women is not casual because ... you risk getting pregnant ... nothing about that is casual.” – Cesar ([41:01])
  • “Post nut clarity ... you just get caught in a moment and you was like, damn, I was tricky.” – Co-host ([46:08])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Open Relationships & Michael Blackskin Discussion: [03:14]–[08:07]
• Men and Women Friends Debate: [06:47]–[07:31]
• Social Media Parenting Critique: [08:25]–[10:24]
• Threesome Rules: [11:35]–[14:19]
• Should Women Buy Own Ring? The Mase Debate: [14:42]–[19:18]
• Testing Love via Cheating: [19:18]–[24:10]
• Cheating & Trust in Life/Business: [24:58]–[26:16]
• Women Friends as Relationship Downfall: [29:01]–[33:27]
• Unspoken Rules of Talking Stage: [38:19]–[44:12]
• Sex, Exclusivity & Post Nut Clarity: [44:48]–[47:06]
• Good vs. Bad Sex Discussion: [46:48]–[50:42]
• Rapid-Fire Dilemmas: [50:42]–[52:42]

Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Blunt and unfiltered: Hosts hold little back, calling out toxic relationship advice and gender double standards.
• Humorous and lively: Banter over scenarios like “post nut clarity,” threesomes—and whether pretty girls have worse sex—spark big laughs.
• Thoughtful moments: Despite jokes, hosts call for maturity and self-respect, especially around relationship boundaries, exclusivity, and advice-giving.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in real talk about unconventional relationships, modern dating dilemmas, and the messy intersection of love, sex, and friendship.

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