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Savannah Guthrie
Every morning brings a fresh new energy.
Craig Melvin
And no matter what the day holds.
Savannah Guthrie
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DJ Wells
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Oh, and he stumbles.
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The volume.
DJ Wells
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Craig Melvin
Woo. Shit. I'm doing good today.
DJ Wells
Doing good today.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, they got me in the gym. Weight loss journey. 5:20 off the court, you know what I mean? Got it in today. Feeling pretty good though, man.
DJ Wells
I'm loving this journey, my boy. See the progression in there. Hey, the content that y'all be producing, that gym be cracking me up, man. Cause with the strays that be getting caught off mic is really the real podcast on Lois and Keys.
Craig Melvin
That's what I was telling them earlier. They be working out. Jeff still be over there. I'll be laying down talking about this nigga. Look at this. What he trying to be cute for? Nah, that shit, that shit is dope though, bro. That shit is dope. Shout out to our trainer, you feel me? Shout out to B. I fuck with it.
DJ Wells
Shout out to B. Man to my right, my dog Young Nacho. Young T. Got you. What?
Bishop B
I ain't gonna lie. I just woke up from that shit today. I was tired, bro. I went to sleep. I just woke up, my alarm went off at 5:30. I was shitty, but it's all good.
DJ Wells
Hey, that's crazy. You had to work out so bad. Put you straight, knocked you the fuck out.
Bishop B
Swear to God, I was tired.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, today was one of ones for.
DJ Wells
Shit show, man, that's crazy. Hey, before we get to the show, I wanna ask y'all. I've been seeing all the kids going to prom. And prom, obviously we old as hell. We long removed from that. Prom is totally different. Now, I did not see one kid who didn't have on designer sneakers.
Craig Melvin
Oh, you got to. You can't have on no regular dress shoes. Now that's inappropriate.
DJ Wells
I mean, but we just went from Vibe. We went from the Biscuits to the Prada.
Craig Melvin
Like, yeah, the bare minimum. You have to wear Air Force ones.
DJ Wells
Okay, that's fair. I'm never mad at no, no.
Craig Melvin
Very minimum, 100 Hollas. No. You know, when we was coming up, our suits came with our dress shoes.
DJ Wells
Disgusting.
Craig Melvin
So your mom was like, nigga, we're at Hero Pinner. I don't know, YouTube, maybe. They was all over the world. But we went to Hero Pinner. And that light blue suit. Here's these light blue shoes to go with it. You can get the plain boys or the crocodile. You pick. And that's it. Now these niggas suits, also, our suits was like our t shirts 4x. Like we Kevin P. All the way around. These kids now, I told y'all, the fashion now is way better. Tailor suits, you feel me? Designer sneaks. Yeah, rather you get them from Teemu or God damn it, Saks. It don't matter. It's just a Vibe. And they sitting on Corvettes. Bentleys.
DJ Wells
They sitting on that shit.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, so you either. Shit, I think we had an avalanche. Nigga, we drove an Avalanche. It was new, but I'm saying it wasn't no Phantom or no shit. Now, like, these kids got so shout out to the new generation. I ain't a hater. I'm a supporter. For real.
DJ Wells
The family car is not acceptable anymore. Nah, somebody got that nice with the family.
Craig Melvin
No, I don't even think nobody. Unless your cousin let you borrow they old school or something. I don't even think had them cars in their pictures. You were standing in front of your house.
Bishop B
I ain't never seen something before. I think we had a limo one year, so that was a Vibe.
DJ Wells
Speaking of limos, shout out to the limos we had in Vegas.
Bishop B
That was a two seater.
DJ Wells
I ain't never been in a limo coupe before.
Craig Melvin
We had the longest stretch.
Bishop B
We had a stretch limo that only fit two people.
Craig Melvin
And it was a srt. Hey, I was so mad at tending you, man. Slow the down. And you know the limos. He had to win the road. It's like, oh, he Hurt me.
DJ Wells
Hey, gotta look back.
Craig Melvin
He was like, I'm Leon. I was like, damn, bro. Nah, for sure.
Bishop B
How you gonna leave us?
DJ Wells
You got paid to wait here.
Bishop B
Yeah, like what?
Craig Melvin
It was just funny looking at people like, because we mind y'all. We had the limo the whole weekend, y'all. It wasn't just one time. People was looking at us getting out to one fight.
DJ Wells
Who the is.
Bishop B
Lame as hell.
Craig Melvin
Everybody. El getting out of trucks. Yachty and them got out of Escalades.
Bishop B
Get out of limo with the whole.
Craig Melvin
Name of the company on the side.
DJ Wells
Prestige Worldwide.
Bishop B
Shout out to Prestige. That's that baby ass woman.
Craig Melvin
That is crazy, man.
DJ Wells
The funny part about it is people look like, what was that? The is these like Booker T in the lobby.
Bishop B
Yeah, that Booker T. Walk right past us. We just talked to him for an hour. Hey, that was a head now, like we said, what's up? We ain't say that.
DJ Wells
We had just left interviewing him at WWE World. We had a lot of each other about to go get something to eat. Bookers. He walked past with his family and gave us a headline like he had never seen us before in our lives, bro. Book was like, I just talked to the for an hour, 15 minutes ago.
Craig Melvin
So glad I wasn't there, bro.
Bishop B
I was rolling.
DJ Wells
It was tears.
Bishop B
How hard I was laughing, bro.
Craig Melvin
I'm like, he passed out, bro.
Bishop B
I said, bro, he really don't know that. We just talking for an hour. I said, that nigga looked through us. That's crazy.
DJ Wells
And we came back in and we walked past. He was like, second time today. No, it's actually the third time.
Bishop B
Third time, brother.
Craig Melvin
That's what I done lost it.
Bishop B
Third time. Third time.
DJ Wells
Oh, man. Shout out to Booker T. Man. How'd y'all like Vegas, man? Wrestlemania was fucking crazy, man.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, that atmosphere is special. What? Nah, I like that atmosphere, man. Shout out to Jamie and company, who gave us the VIP, too. That primary was amazing.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Hey, the least allegiant stadium is crazy.
Bishop B
No, it's a nice stadium right there.
DJ Wells
It's top of the line for sure. To see that many people in there all vibed out for wrestling, that was dope as fuck.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. Actually seeing the celebrities too, where we were sitting at. Not the stunt or. I'm just saying that was a stunt. Nah, we was like third row, whatever the fuck we was.
DJ Wells
They saw you on tv. They posted it on Twitter.
Craig Melvin
I understand, but I'm just saying, to see those usually. And me and Jeff talked about it for a while. Usually those type of guys Is like too cool for school when you see them other places. So to see them up cheering and taking videos, them usually the niggas, they play hey, bro, put your phone down type of shit. So to see them doing that to John Cena and them was kind of crazy, though.
DJ Wells
Nah, that was fire. That's how.
Craig Melvin
That's what, man. I'm like, damn, this is really different, bro.
Bishop B
Yeah, I told you. Wrestling, like universal. Like. And you can be yourself at a wrestling ring. Cause you go to a wrestling match, everybody in there know that. You know, it's kind of scripted and whatever.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
So you know you just a true fan. So you can't even be tough or nothing in here. Cause n can be like, me watching this shit, bro. Like, you ain't tough, nigga. You don't. So everybody just gonna be themselves and enjoy it. Like, that's why I was hyped going, like, everybody just in here vibing. Ain't nobody. Like, hey, man, don't talk to me. Like, all the people that was there, like Yachty Quavo, all them, they taking pictures with everybody. Cause everybody just true friends. Like, we all just like this, bro. We grew up watching it. We all enjoying it. So that's what made it cool, bro. Ain't nobody too big for nothing. Like, somebody walk up to him, they just like, what up? Yeah, for sure got belts on.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, bro. And like, when the music, you know, you know, when the rest come out, they drop the music. So see them niggas like, oh, here he come. I said, bro, that's wild, bro. I would never think. I seen Metro shout out to Metro. He with the show.
DJ Wells
Yes, sir.
Craig Melvin
As soon as he heard John Cena come out, he was eyes lit up like, said, damn, that is a dope. Like, you could be in the safest place, bro.
DJ Wells
It's dope. Everybody can just enjoy it. Like, the vibes is high. Like, like you said when Stone Cold Steve music went off, bro, People lost their minds, bro. That.
Craig Melvin
That might be the most famous reaction I ever seen in my life. I didn't been around some. Nah, bro. Like, even. You know what's crazy? Even when he hit that lady, bro. Like, I know we be talking about her, but nobody gave a. Bro, that's Stone Cold. Get up.
Bishop B
Hey.
DJ Wells
He hit that corner so hard and smack dancing that beard. And he looked over, he's like, where the beers at? I was like, oh, that's the vibe.
Craig Melvin
People was cool with him just coming out. What did he announce?
DJ Wells
Like, just the attendance for the night.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, like, people Was okay with it.
Bishop B
Yeah. I was in line buying a sweatshirt. Look at me, fanned out. I was in line buying a sweatshirt. And when the glass broke for him to come out, nigga, Everybody that was in the line ahead of me left like, nigga, I swear to God. Like, oh, shit. Fuck all the sweaters. They wanted all that shit. They left. I walked up, nigga, and got my shit. Niggas is running and everything. One dude hit the lady. She was holding a pretzel. She kept that pretzel alive. That shit didn't touch the ground or nothing. I helped her up. I said, bro, stone cold. Too legit for me, bro. I walked. I came, like, a little later. And y'all. He was about to leave. I was just like, that shit is crazy.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro. That theme music dropped. Niggas started acting like it was Black Friday opening.
Bishop B
That's what it is.
DJ Wells
People lost their mind. For that lady to get trucked and hold her pretzel. She should be the verified bucket. She knew the vibes.
Bishop B
She held on that press for dear life.
DJ Wells
It was probably $22.
Craig Melvin
I feel her facts just walking down, seeing all them people going crazy, bro. I was like, this is unreal, bro. And this is wrestling before me.
Bishop B
And Malcolm was sitting. It wasn't a lot of commotion. Like, it was a few people with binoculars. But other than that, it was. It was cool. Like, it wasn't no trampling over each other. Nobody got hyped. I mean, it was.
Craig Melvin
They yelled and whatnot. Like, we didn't have a space to.
Bishop B
Run because we were so tight up.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah. No, y'all wasn't running up there.
Bishop B
Oh, I was at the concession area on the floor.
Craig Melvin
I was saying we were all pretty.
Bishop B
Hot.
DJ Wells
Out of pocket.
Craig Melvin
I'm listening to him tell this weak ass story, talking about binoculars on my soul. Y'all was not that far.
DJ Wells
You were.
Bishop B
Y'all didn't look out. And us, a piece of gu on the floor has seats right by us, though.
Craig Melvin
Y.
DJ Wells
A Sunday they were on the floor.
Bishop B
We didn't. We didn't yell out longer.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Craig Melvin
Don't disrespect the plug.
Bishop B
I called my nephew and I said, why y'all sitting over there? He said, we got better seats with Jamie. I said, hold on.
DJ Wells
Where the y'all at?
Bishop B
He said, we bought an entrance. I said, how y'all get there? He's like, we came with Jamie.
Craig Melvin
The entrance, like, oh, I didn't hear about that.
Bishop B
No. The entrance to the ramp.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Wow. Had prime real estate trying to Play. See, that's.
Craig Melvin
That didn't even tell us.
DJ Wells
That's crazy.
Craig Melvin
Shout out to Malcolm. Malcolm gonna tell. That's crazy. Shout out to Jamie, though, man. We appreciate that.
DJ Wells
The funny thing is always static. That was. That happened the whole weekend be here. Happened to witness people fighting in the lobby, bro.
Craig Melvin
That's why I'm like, yeah, Jeff, right, bro, but ain't nothing like this, bro.
Bishop B
No, no, I didn't like it.
Craig Melvin
So, man, fighting, bro. The slammed him, bro. He got. You're not Roman Reigns. I'm Roman Reigns, bro. And punch the hell out. This. I said, bro, this is. This is nuts, bro. Telling you don't even have on the gear. What the. This lame as hell, but everybody just start clapping. I said, yeah, bro. Got it.
DJ Wells
Hey, if somebody stealing me and start clapping now I'm losing it.
Craig Melvin
I couldn't. I'm like, yeah, this is. This is different. That. That shit's bigger than the super, bro. Y'all, that's funny.
DJ Wells
Cause you don't even fuck with jerseys, but you support them in full costume at wwe.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah. I was with it. Cause I'm like, for y'all to go all out and to know when y'all was telling me the analytics on how people spend the money. Yeah, man, like, just for that, bro. That's a different type of. I don't know, different type of fanned out type shit.
DJ Wells
Yeah, man. Crazy weekend. Cause before they was at the Tron bus found out that somebody named their baby after T. Yeah. Comments is going crazy. That was hilarious, man.
Bishop B
Yeah, that was funny as hell. I mean, I appreciate that. Shout out to that family. They showed mad love. That was crazy experiences. I hear somebody say they name their kid after you, it's like.
Craig Melvin
It is wild.
Bishop B
Damn. Like, when you think about it, it's like, damn, I did enough on a basketball court for somebody to be impressed with my skills to be like, name my kid after that, nigga.
DJ Wells
I'm like, that's fire.
Bishop B
Yeah. You like, damn, I wasn't that bad. I must have been. I was cool. Then at some point I was like, all right, so now that was a humbling experience right there.
DJ Wells
That's so dope, cuz. In most of the situations you find out somebody named that kid after you, that is a bad call.
Craig Melvin
That's how was said wig on that bang bus. Mari was sitting right there. You are. I said, oh, she's Spanish. Oh, no.
DJ Wells
Just like, all right. In 10 years, we see that little ducking, we gonna know something.
Bishop B
I got you.
DJ Wells
Not his lady.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, Guys see that ducking with a fitted on we go.
DJ Wells
That's crazy. What if it is out of pocket? Listen, it's a couple different places we can go here. Let y'all decide. As a matter of fact, I think we need a drink before we start the rest of this episode.
Craig Melvin
Are they ready? Oh, wow.
DJ Wells
Barbie, are they ready?
Craig Melvin
That's crazy.
Bishop B
Who? Kanye.
Craig Melvin
That's why it took me back. Barbie, are you ready?
Bishop B
Kanye? Wild nigga boy, she ain't ready.
DJ Wells
We'll take that as a no.
Craig Melvin
She said no.
DJ Wells
Well, we'll call her back.
Craig Melvin
Y'all know she a part of the show.
DJ Wells
It's love for sure. We'll pop up soon. Senders. I know. Be hit on rock with the movie.
Craig Melvin
Do your thing.
DJ Wells
You pull up. Have you pulled up yet, Mike? I ain't seen it yet. You got to go see it.
Bishop B
I want to. Yeah.
DJ Wells
Cinders is one of the dopest movies I've seen a very long time. And I am a Michael B. Jordan hater for sure. That's probably the best role I've ever seen him. He went crazy.
Bishop B
My only issue that everybody is so hype about it. I feel like it's going to let me down.
DJ Wells
You're going to be entertained, bro. It's nothing to. It's really going to upset you about it, bro. It's good cinema.
Bishop B
It's a good. It's a cool movie.
Craig Melvin
He'd be looking for a reason to hate it.
Bishop B
Take a minute to get to the point. It does it take a minute to get to the point of the movie? Yeah. What the fuck, bro?
DJ Wells
It's about an hour before it kind of makes sense, but in that hour, you're entertained. It's a really good movie.
Craig Melvin
All right, I'm gonna check it out, you guys.
Bishop B
It on IMAX or y'all saw it?
DJ Wells
I'm gonna see it on IMAX this weekend. I saw it regular Deglar because, you know, so we had to go to WrestleMania. So I just went to the joint.
Bishop B
It took like, 30 minutes for me to get entertained. Like the beginning. I was just kind of like, all.
Craig Melvin
Right, man, what was the best part of the movie?
Bishop B
I mean, I ain't seen it. I don't want to tell you, you.
Craig Melvin
Know, I'm never gonna go see it.
DJ Wells
Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. If you haven't seen it, this is the time for you.
Craig Melvin
It's been out long enough for everybody to see it.
DJ Wells
You know, I just try to show love, man.
Bishop B
Four days.
DJ Wells
It's been out a week.
Bishop B
Friday.
DJ Wells
Carry the one. Fuck it. The best part about it for me is when they started like having direct dialogue with the vampires. When they started going back and forth for real. Them trying to get into the barn and shit. That's when the movie got super, super dope for me.
Bishop B
That's when it got cool.
DJ Wells
Yeah, Delroy went crazy. LeBron, the legend, Father, hey, he went crazy. That's probably one of the best. He should win some awards for that shit.
Bishop B
That was a cool movie.
DJ Wells
Breaking records.
Bishop B
It's gonna be funny cause like all the stuff that's going on in the world now, like dudes dating white women. It's gonna be very funny.
DJ Wells
Oh yeah, that. Well, that amongst other things.
Bishop B
But if you watch Sinners, I'm pretty sure the Internet probably gonna be like, see? Hey, look, I'm watching.
DJ Wells
Yeah, it's a lot of underlying issues in the movie. It's really dope. But they definitely. Boy, if you are a black man dating a fair skinned woman. White woman. Yeah, you definitely got some text after people saw that movie. Yeah, it's interesting.
Craig Melvin
Oh, Jesus.
DJ Wells
Nothing bad. It's a dope ass movie.
Bishop B
We'll see. Yeah, you'll see.
DJ Wells
Like, I like the business behind it though, because I know they didn't really believe too much in the movie. So he has rights for that movie after 25 years. I know it's not the first time it's been done, but for that movie to be as successful as it is, like when. So it's like 60 million open a weekend. It took 90 to make. Yeah. He's about to have an empire off that. That's dope.
Craig Melvin
That's the best movie I've seen so.
DJ Wells
Far this year to me. Yeah. As far as being entertained, I was entertained the entire time because y'all movie boys, so.
Bishop B
Yeah, I mean, it ain't really been no good movies this year.
DJ Wells
No, it's.
Bishop B
Yeah, the little Russell beach, whatever that shit was called, pissed me off. I almost stopped going to the movies.
DJ Wells
That I ain't gonna hold you. I know that Jonathan Majors was supposed to be in this movie and you know I'm all about getting bags, but I am not upset that he was not this movie. Michael B. Jordan did a good job.
Bishop B
He was supposed to be Michael B. Jordan.
DJ Wells
He was supposed to be. They're supposed to be them too. Instead of Michael B. Jordan two times.
Bishop B
Oh.
DJ Wells
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Craig Melvin
The day holds, we come to the.
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DJ Wells
When things are tough, we talk about it. When there's something to figure out, we dig into it.
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DJ Wells
Here we go. Steve's got a trunk full of groceries and no one to help him. Oh, that's tough. Jim looks like a five trip load. @ least. He grabs the first bag the second Bob. It looks like he's trying to do it all in one trip. He shimmies the door open, steps over the dog.
Craig Melvin
Oh, and he stumbles.
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DJ Wells
Now, he would have been fine with the dress code because he already dressed like he in the fucking prohibition. But if he had been doing that other role and became one of them, oh, that would have pissed me off.
Craig Melvin
Hey, I still be laughing at that meme with that dancing at that party.
Bishop B
That nigga's off that cane, man.
DJ Wells
Hey, when he broke up that fight and did this, man, they should have jumped him. What? What are you doing, bro?
Craig Melvin
He'll dance in that hard sweat like that in that party is top tier, man.
Bishop B
Yeah, he not one of my. He's down on the list of my favorite actors, man. I ain't hating, but I'll be like, damn, what's up? If I see him. Like, good shit, bro. But like, yeah, all jokes aside, he's.
DJ Wells
A very talented actor. Like, I hate the fact that that Marvel situation shook out the way it did. Cause he was really about to go crazy.
Bishop B
He was Fire and Creed.
Craig Melvin
It was Fire and Creed.
Bishop B
Yeah, Lovecraft Country.
DJ Wells
He was super firing.
Bishop B
That too.
DJ Wells
Like, he's a really good actor. That's why all this stuff, that last.
Bishop B
Role, I ain't fuck with that.
DJ Wells
Now, that one movie you just said. I didn't go see that movie. I was not.
Bishop B
Don't ever go see it.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm asleep on that performance. They'll never see that but he did his thing, bro. He got some great roles, for sure, man. He's very tight.
Craig Melvin
That y'all be going to the movies and really be tapped in. That's hard.
DJ Wells
Yeah. It's even like, with the Ryan Cooper. Like, that is art, bro. Like, the way that that looks, the angles, like, even the imax. Like, that is fire. Like, you could tell. That's, like, attention to tell to a T. Oh, the hard way.
Bishop B
Fall.
DJ Wells
I like the movie, too.
Bishop B
Yeah. Hard.
DJ Wells
They fall. Solid.
Bishop B
Which one is that?
DJ Wells
It's like the western movie. Yeah, that movie's very solid. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, bro.
Bishop B
I ain't gonna see that.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro. He's legit, bro. Jonathan Matrix is one of them. You know, he just had some he was going through, but you know what I'm saying? I hope he bounced back.
Craig Melvin
We'll see something vibrating.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I heard something.
Bishop B
Like the rose Barbie over there.
DJ Wells
That's not what we mix drinks up with, is it?
Craig Melvin
Got that lip on it. It'll mix that drink up real good.
DJ Wells
I don't want to know the ingredients today. Actually, I might have a bottle of water.
Craig Melvin
He put that roast in that club. That mix and shake your porn.
Savannah Guthrie
Is it in you?
Bishop B
Let me stop. No free promotions.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, for sure.
DJ Wells
Crazy.
Craig Melvin
Who you say, the bread of the rose. How you talking?
DJ Wells
Let's move on. That's crazy. Did y'all see Melo? He was talking about K. Cunningham. He was at the game, obviously. You know what I'm saying? He did the Fazbay Duncan point. He was just like, I'd like to get in the gym with him in the off season. I'd like to be a mentor for him, and I think that's super dope.
Craig Melvin
That'd be cool.
DJ Wells
He's like, I see so many places or I see so many things in his offense he could expand upon. He's like, I just want to know what I'm saying. Show love. I think that'd be dope to see that happen.
Bishop B
I think it's cool when superstar players want to give, you know, credit and show love.
Craig Melvin
The hell? I told you I was tripping.
Bishop B
Malcolm, what is that? They cutting his hair you doing? Go ahead.
DJ Wells
Barbie, what's up?
Bishop B
I know what you doing, man.
Craig Melvin
Nobody birthday.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop B
What you doing?
Craig Melvin
Manscape.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bishop B
Man, I thought that was doing manscape.
Craig Melvin
I thought. I thought that Rose Barbie.
DJ Wells
Girls, maybe we might have drinks today.
Bishop B
She got a oven mitt on it.
DJ Wells
Okay, what we got? What's this? Okay, the fade Away Mike is on camera playing with the. Did you have an easy makeup?
Craig Melvin
That sound just. It does. So I remember one night, laying in the bed, I heard that motherfucker. They got Rose like the undertaker. Like right now. Girl, you ain't even gonna touch me. You gotta touch me, nigga.
DJ Wells
That was a burnout.
Craig Melvin
She know. Usually you lay it down with your girl. She grab your beat or whatever.
Bishop B
Keep me with the original, baby. I said, it's like a cigar.
DJ Wells
Hey, this is good. I old fashioned. I like smoke old fashioned. No, it's good. I like it.
Bishop B
The wood is in that buffer. No disrespect.
DJ Wells
No more smoking. Oh, my God.
Craig Melvin
Let me taste it.
Bishop B
That's what vegan thing?
DJ Wells
Oh, man.
Craig Melvin
Ooh, this motherfucker do taste like Lowe's. Like you.
DJ Wells
The ashtray water.
Bishop B
It's crazy.
DJ Wells
You got ashray water? No. Y'all never like when y'all would smoke it.
Bishop B
Well, you didn't smoke in the fire.
DJ Wells
You ash and some water or something like that. Oh, no, ma'am.
Bishop B
Use, use. Hey, boy.
DJ Wells
No, ma'am.
Craig Melvin
This the most ignorant show hot boxing in America. What do you got? What's in that bar? You was over there cooking the drink. Barb is frying my drink. We smelling get nervous in here.
Bishop B
I thought so.
DJ Wells
Blue, we don't have insurance.
Craig Melvin
Who here trying to acquire this building?
DJ Wells
Well, to get for free.
Bishop B
Now, what was in the drink?
Craig Melvin
I would make you another one.
Bishop B
No, don't worry about it.
Craig Melvin
You family, girl, you supposed to throw the piece of wood chips in the charcoal for the grill.
Bishop B
My man.
Craig Melvin
Not this.
DJ Wells
Oh, my God. Struggling to do this. Oh, Malcolm, you were part of this as well. Sorry. Oh, okay.
Bishop B
I'm like, okay.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. That tastes like a treehouse.
Bishop B
Oh, it's been good. She been good, though. We've been on the road for a little bit.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Savannah Guthrie
Y'all have food?
Craig Melvin
Yeah, man. We did shout out to Vegas.
Bishop B
What you do this weekend?
DJ Wells
Cook. I was talking about so I had.
Craig Melvin
To cook for the family.
DJ Wells
What you cook? Oh, you made Easter dinner. Turn me up. What's the menu?
Craig Melvin
Yeah, whole chicken with gravy.
DJ Wells
Okay. Oh, no, you got that sound like.
Craig Melvin
A quality meal being the whole chicken with gravy. It's giving mcl.
Bishop B
I told you, you can't make him no respect.
Craig Melvin
That's. That's. Yeah, no, I'm sure it's probably good, though. I. I just. I probably need it.
Bishop B
Is your yams, like, heavy protein sweet them sweet yams or your.
Craig Melvin
Okay, you cook your yams on top of the stove or in the oven? Oh, okay. Okay, Little sizzle. I.
DJ Wells
With that little sizzle. You gotta. You gotta get the dessert back, though. You gotta seal the deal. That's fair.
Craig Melvin
How you make your gravy? I use the drippings from the chicken. Okay, well. Well, it's probably good.
DJ Wells
We need y'all to get in the kitchen together. We need that content.
Craig Melvin
We need being a little oil, a little seasoning. You just. Yeah, you rule it up. You feel me? Then you drop your meat in there. But you made a whole chicken. I ain't never made a whole thing before. Yeah, but respect, you know? Shout out to your dish. Hopefully the family enjoyed it.
Bishop B
How many people had to eat, like, 10? Okay, damn. Oh, so damn. Your mama got 10 kids?
DJ Wells
Six. Shout out to mom.
Craig Melvin
Dudes, shout out to mom. Where you fall in line at?
DJ Wells
Oh, you the oldest.
Bishop B
Damn, you the oldest.
DJ Wells
Oh, damn.
Bishop B
Are you the brothers?
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. You got responsibilities.
Bishop B
Nah, nigga, she good.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, you supposed to probably be a stud. I'm a girly girl, but I don't know.
Bishop B
She said, I damn near was. I was like, oh, Barbie can't say that.
DJ Wells
Toss it up is crazy.
Bishop B
All right.
Craig Melvin
What kind of stu would you be if you was just a.
Bishop B
What's your stud name?
Craig Melvin
No Bridget coming.
DJ Wells
Up looking like Manny Fresh. Like, where's that B, money? I want to ask y'all a question, especially when you hear Barbie Turkey smoking that smoke.
Savannah Guthrie
That's crazy.
Craig Melvin
I see one of them at Walmart. I said, oh, I just heard that.
DJ Wells
Being pregnant sagging, respectfully shout out to love who you want to love. But being pregnant sagging is crazy. That's nuts. Are you Googling that?
Craig Melvin
I see one of them at Walmart, man. That's. That's crazy. We in some crazy times.
Bishop B
She said with her wi. She out of pocket, bro.
DJ Wells
I want to ask y'all this question.
Craig Melvin
I was like, that look like somebody we know.
DJ Wells
Why say from Patreon. How do y'all. If y'all the function, if somebody's giving y'all food, y the family dinner and the food ain't good, how do y'all get rid of the plate? Or do y'all, like, just eat it all? Y'all just like, how do y'all get out of the way of eating that food?
Bishop B
You see how I just did that drink? Same way I do that plate right now. Oh, my fault.
Craig Melvin
That's why I make my own plate, dj.
DJ Wells
Okay?
Bishop B
I tell them straight up that shit weak. Especially if I'm at my mama house. I bought. Who made that?
DJ Wells
Oh, so you want to Be like.
Craig Melvin
That motherfucker too grown.
Bishop B
She made it.
DJ Wells
Oh, y'all point people out.
Bishop B
My mama do like, she made that one. Like, that's weak.
Craig Melvin
Oh, you got that type of family. My family ain't calling nobody out. They just send texts, though. Yeah, yeah, they send texts.
Bishop B
My mama, she'll snitch on you.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. Motherfucker got from the macaroni to the silverware in my house.
DJ Wells
Ooh, that's a demotion. You went from the most important to just get what you can.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah. So damn. That's crazy you calling out that.
Bishop B
Cause I always ask my mama. Cause before I eat something, I'll be like, who made that? My mama gonna be like, your sister made them. She made that.
DJ Wells
She made this.
Bishop B
I just. As soon as it's weak, I bought that shit trash. Remember my lying.
Craig Melvin
That's crazy, bro.
DJ Wells
I get to washing off the family, but I can't call my auntie shit trash with her face like that.
Bishop B
These weak. Who made them greens? Mama, she'd be like I had. Got them from this lady at them week. She be like, they whack. Oh, my Lord. Everybody else said it was okay. Nah, them week Barbie, what you do? Tell them they need to know. Like, you would be wrong. If I ain't tell you this drink was mid.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you'll be.
Craig Melvin
Keep making. I feel like the drink is good. It's that hillbilly ass aftertaste that I just gained.
Bishop B
I swear to God, it's the apple taste.
Craig Melvin
It is.
Bishop B
Let me try one more time, because.
Craig Melvin
The drink is fire to me on everything. That drink. Good.
DJ Wells
Drinking like he had.
Craig Melvin
Covid tell the people just in case. Like it like, dj. How did you make that, though? Like, what made you. I don't understand how we got the wood taste.
DJ Wells
Y'all smoking. Most people get, like, smoked old fashioned, but it's.
Bishop B
It's.
Craig Melvin
Oh, okay.
Bishop B
Yeah, that's a hard taste, boy. I like smoked old.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
That's what I ask you. That's your.
Bishop B
Yeah, make my mic turn a little buzzer on, man.
Craig Melvin
I'm working out right now.
Bishop B
Oh, man, I hate this.
Craig Melvin
This make him want to put a couple cherries in that. So come in, though.
Bishop B
Yeah, I'm a cool.
DJ Wells
Oh, Lord. It has to have a better name than that.
Craig Melvin
Mike grabbed that fast. He put it next to him.
Bishop B
He's like, let's go.
DJ Wells
Perfect.
Bishop B
With my ankle. No. Mike been on my head.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Be heaving on my head lately.
Bishop B
I'm gutted for everybody.
Craig Melvin
You snitched on me bad on the morning.
Bishop B
My that was funny.
DJ Wells
That was hilarious.
Craig Melvin
Fed this. Fed.
DJ Wells
Oh, man. Bark, we appreciate you.
Bishop B
Hey, make Mike one of them. Yeah, I try one of them. You know what? This go perfect with the movie center. I haven't seen this yet. Yeah, they was stuck in a barn or some, and it burnt down.
DJ Wells
It did burn down. Oh, man. This podcast is ridiculous, and I love it. So, I mean, we got a couple places we can go right now.
Bishop B
Go to Kanye.
DJ Wells
We're going to Kanye.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I don't want to hear from Kanye west ever again.
Bishop B
Me either.
Craig Melvin
Yay. Wild out. He been wilding out, but that's kind of. That's kind of far, bro.
DJ Wells
Bro, yesterday he said, if I tell if I'm gay, can I use the F word? I said, yeah, just. You're out of here, bro.
Bishop B
Yeah, you're just.
DJ Wells
You just doing.
Bishop B
Now he long gone.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. It ain't about you. If you can, you gonna say it. You need to ask, bro. The you said is kind of out of pocket. Like.
DJ Wells
Like, he's going through full length to get attention. He's saying all the rage bait stuff that's getting people to bite. But it's just, like.
Bishop B
It's sad to see nobody care no more, though.
DJ Wells
It's sad to see.
Bishop B
I was just wondering do that. Do y'all, like, still enjoy his music, like, after hearing some of this? Or do y'all be like, nah, I.
DJ Wells
Played my Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy last week. I separate the people from the music. Everybody picks and chooses with certain people. There's a lot of unsavory people in every place, but we still like that music. N. Still listen to R. Kelly.
Bishop B
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. I just. I don't. I never got caught up in the celebrities. I've been telling y'all that long before we even.
DJ Wells
You have. You've always said that.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. Before we even got popping on here. I don't. I don't do that shit. Cause I don't know these niggas, bro. So the music is just. I'll leave it there. And it is what it is. Cause you'll be surprised that somebody that you idolize or anything, what they really do behind closed doors, it'll probably fuck you up for real. And I feel like our generation of music is catching really all the smoke from all these artists. I don't feel like my mama or y'all mama went through shit like that with they favorite artists or even the kids today. They ain't even really going through that shit.
Bishop B
Cause Patti labelling them on tour right now. I ain't Never heard Nothing about Patti LaBelle.
Craig Melvin
Smokey Robson on that motherfucker. Nigga going through it.
Bishop B
I seen a nigga walking across the station by. See, that's when you. Your pants around your ankles.
Craig Melvin
That's what I put on Twitter. That was my tweet.
Bishop B
That's funny.
Craig Melvin
She said, don't lock the door.
DJ Wells
But, man, the crazy part is you look at Autumn docu series about them old groups of Temptation. Autumn had real life demons. It's just they didn't have social media or like they had visibility. Yeah, bro, if they had Instagram for them, bro.
Bishop B
For David Ruffin, been a lot of cocaine.
DJ Wells
Come on, bro. Even with the Bobby Brown stuff. I just watched the Shannon Sharp interview. Like, the stuff that Bobby Brown was.
Bishop B
Doing, bro, if they had ig, probably.
DJ Wells
Would have been crazy.
Craig Melvin
They feel like.
DJ Wells
Come on.
Craig Melvin
Like the Temptations movies and stuff like that. They was wild and bro, but they was more just drugs and cokeheads, bro. He really never heard about them really dealing with no minors and like that.
Bishop B
I mean, if you go look at the history of music, all of them dealt with minors. Like, even back to Elvis Presley.
Craig Melvin
I mean, Elvis. I wasn't tapped into Elvis. I know.
Bishop B
He even all them entertainers, like, they was Mike.
DJ Wells
No, no smut on Mike.
Bishop B
No, Diana Ross was dealing with him.
DJ Wells
Diana touched Mike.
Bishop B
Okay, I ain't gonna say she touched him, but.
Craig Melvin
But see what I'm saying?
Bishop B
It's kind of like it was basically.
Craig Melvin
Did or didn't do nothing. I'm just saying it was.
DJ Wells
No Michael Jackson slander will survive from this podcast.
Bishop B
I never said about Michael Jackson.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I mean, I shout out to Michael Jackson, bro. But yeah, it's just different times, bro.
DJ Wells
But there was like you said, it's a lot of questionable shit that happened.
Bishop B
Yeah, we just didn't have social media. Nobody really cared. Yeah, we talked about, like what we was talking about the other day, when you could be with your. Your grandpa can have two families and shit, and they could be down the street from each other.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
With social media you can't have it.
Craig Melvin
Like I said, I really know of a situation like that, but my family watched this pod, so we gonna leave that alone.
DJ Wells
Respect. Shout out to all.
Craig Melvin
That's some real shit, though. Yeah, but like, the family still, like, everybody kicked it and it was just.
Bishop B
I got some cousins like that. It still confuses me to this day. How you my cousin. Are they like our first cousins?
Craig Melvin
Oh, I know. Why we cousins?
DJ Wells
I mean, I know my granddaddy did.
Craig Melvin
I'm just like my Grandpa plunged your grandma.
Bishop B
So teachers, huh, go crazy.
DJ Wells
When you look. Look back, you look at some of, like, the timelines of your family, you'd be like, that. Math ain't math. Somebody was wilding right here. But let that go.
Craig Melvin
You can't do that. You can do it now.
DJ Wells
It's just, bro, you don't get tore.
Craig Melvin
Up on Facebook or social media for about a week or then it'd be cool.
DJ Wells
Well, no, Facebook streaks is wicked, boy. That's the cyberdrop screen you don't wanna be on.
Bishop B
I wonder why people do that, though. Like, why do everybody take everything to social media? Like, why do you take, like, your problems or something that's going wrong with you to social media? Like, yeah. Cause that's weird to me. Yeah, they can't. They make. They gonna make fun of you.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Nobody cares about this.
Bishop B
Yeah, but literally, like, especially black people. We take everything as a joke. I'm black people. I think everything's a joke. So, yeah, if somebody take their most important detailed life, I might laugh at.
Craig Melvin
Like, fool, it just depends on what you got.
Bishop B
You got pregnant at Popeyes. Like, I'm gonna. The chicken was really enough. I'm beating. Maybe somebody's gonna make a video.
Craig Melvin
But if your kid miss it, you might put that bitch on Instagram. Hey, man, help me find this little dude that makes sense.
Bishop B
Yeah, like, shit like that serves a purpose.
DJ Wells
But you finding out that the kid ain't yours. I wanted to ask y'all this. It's a clip. And this dude, he said, well, I used to be a daddy. And dude was like, how did you used to be a daddy? He said, well, I was with a girl and she was pregnant, and my mama told me I couldn't leave her to, like, be a nigga. You gonna take care of these babies? He find out they yours or not? It was during COVID So, you know, all the courts and stuff couldn't go do nothing. He had to wait through that whole process, and then he found out the kids wasn't his, but he was like, I ain't a daddy no more.
Craig Melvin
I got a good question for y'all. So what if y'all found out the kid Wasn't yalls at 18 years old?
DJ Wells
We locked in you, my nigga.
Bishop B
I did my part. You just owe me some money. Nah, I need that backpack.
Craig Melvin
You owe me a lot of money.
Bishop B
But I need that backpack.
DJ Wells
You my kid, bro. I done raised you.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, what about six?
Bishop B
If I was on child support, too? I'm gonna get that.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah. I Need my money back. But now what if you're with the girl?
DJ Wells
What you mean?
Craig Melvin
If you're with the girl? You find out the kid wasn't yours. And the kid is 18.
DJ Wells
Oh, did.
Craig Melvin
We're not together anymore.
DJ Wells
You my. And I don't know her. Yeah.
Craig Melvin
You still locked in with the kid?
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
No.
DJ Wells
You out. I raised you, bro. You my son. 18 years, bro.
Bishop B
18 years. 18 years.
DJ Wells
16. You just got elementary school, bro. Your life. You have a full life.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, you just. You just got out of kids. You'll forgive me soon.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I'm not really your like.
Craig Melvin
You forgive me soon.
Bishop B
It's crazy on me. I ain't locked in no more with.
Craig Melvin
The kid at 18.
Bishop B
No, bro, you grown. Anyway, fuck him.
Craig Melvin
Go find him.
Bishop B
Yeah, you might want to find your pops, nigga. Cause y'all know you gonna need something new from that when you about to graduate college. It ain't gonna be for me.
Craig Melvin
Damn.
Bishop B
If you ain't going to college, know you gonna try to figure out how to get a job. Definitely call your daddy.
DJ Wells
But we see crazy nigga. I don't know him.
Bishop B
I know we gonna find him together, champ.
DJ Wells
Go. Adventure talk. Hey, defy your lineage. For real.
Craig Melvin
We posted it on Instagram.
Bishop B
We got to got to find him.
DJ Wells
And that's where go wrong. I just found out.
Craig Melvin
Might be easier to find him that way. See what I'm saying? It might be easier to find him. So y'all sliding that 6? 6. You can figure the rest of your life out.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you're good.
Craig Melvin
18. Two of y'all gonna stay, but Mike is gonna say, I'm gonna help you find a dad.
Bishop B
Thank you so much.
Craig Melvin
Jeff is. I'm out regardless.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
Hey, no open house or nothing. I'm out of there. They hit one, baby.
DJ Wells
Ice cream. Yeah.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. I think at 6, you.
Bishop B
Yeah, I'm skating, bro. 8, 6, 18, 12, 24, 32. If I found out at 32, nigga, I'm. Nigga, go home, nigga. He like, dad, I'll be coming over here. Don't call me that.
DJ Wells
You gonna correct him.
Craig Melvin
Don't call me that. After 32 years is wild.
Bishop B
Don't call me that, bro.
DJ Wells
Nigga, my name is DJ now.
Craig Melvin
After 32 years, bro.
Bishop B
Don't call me.
Craig Melvin
You damn near out of here, bro. Enjoy your son, bro.
Bishop B
That ain't my son, bro.
Craig Melvin
Cause that's your fault, bro.
DJ Wells
I'll raise you, bro.
Bishop B
I'm actually danger upset.
Craig Melvin
I'll raise my kid at that point. I'm upset.
Bishop B
Yeah. Cause if I would be mad if I like thought that was my kid for 32 years. Now I really ain't got a kid.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, yeah.
Bishop B
I'll be hurt more like. So I don't even want to see you, bro. Cause you reminded me of the failure I was.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, God damn.
Bishop B
I didn't win the battle. Some other nigga shot first and won.
DJ Wells
Hey, you about to walk in like the grand son ain't spend no friend. He just gotta stop.
Bishop B
You know, how is they gonna really go find a real daddy and then he had to do nothing for 32 years. And they're gonna rekindle their relationship and it's gonna be the cool. They could have the best relationship in the world and you didn't. Drove me crazy for 18 years. Yeah.
Craig Melvin
All that. Now depending on type of kid. If you got one of them kids.
Bishop B
Like, what about this? In and out of juvenile some like, he was bad as hell. You had to get lawyers and all. All type of.
Craig Melvin
That'll hurt. That'll hurt.
Bishop B
You gonna block. I know he ain't had my jeans doing that. Crazy.
Craig Melvin
See, women don't get criticized enough for that, bro. Because that happens a lot, bro. I'll be find out that them kids ain't theirs every day, bro.
DJ Wells
That is true.
Craig Melvin
Every day.
DJ Wells
Shout out to Mori. People have built franchises off things based upon these events.
Craig Melvin
I think my cutoff is like eighth grade.
DJ Wells
Oh, yeah. By that time, bro, we.
Craig Melvin
Oh, no. I'm saying I'm out.
DJ Wells
You're out?
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Okay.
Bishop B
7, 8, 18, 12, 6th grade.
DJ Wells
14, 15, 6. You still take naps in school? You'll forgive me.
Bishop B
Nah, nah.
DJ Wells
Real though.
Bishop B
I couldn't do that.
DJ Wells
It's tough.
Bishop B
I ain't even trying to be funny because I know what kids put you through, like, for 18 years. And to find out it wasn't his. I ain't saying she. Nah, I'll be shitty, though.
DJ Wells
Hey.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah. You will be on fire.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
I ain't gonna hold you when I meet Pops. Hey, sue see me in court, you old nigga. You not about to just stop me and be daddy. I ain't even mad at you.
Craig Melvin
I'm mad at her. Yeah, she the problem.
Savannah Guthrie
Yeah.
Bishop B
Oh, no, no.
DJ Wells
If he don't know, I can't be mad at him.
Bishop B
But if we was together, like, I ain't gonna be mad. Cause I mean, I ain't gonna sue you if we was together. But like I'm saying, you had me on child support. And like, we wasn't together. We had separated and I was coming to Pick you up.
Craig Melvin
Oh, that's different. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's.
DJ Wells
That's painless.
Bishop B
Yeah. Like, we was, like, together and I found out. I'm just gonna leave you alone, little nigga. You gone, too. I'm moving to Miami. It's all good. Everybody get out the house. I'm selling this thing. Don't worry about it. I ain't gonna say nothing to y'all. I ain't gonna say nothing to y'all families. Just go find your.
DJ Wells
I just disappeared.
Bishop B
Yeah, I'm just gonna move on with my life. But if I was paying child support for 18 years and we wasn't together, I had to go pick him up. And I probably was arguing with your mom about some.
DJ Wells
PTO to get your sick ass from school.
Craig Melvin
Different side. I ain't mad at that.
Bishop B
I'll be shitty then.
Craig Melvin
I ain't mad at that.
DJ Wells
Yeah, you played in my face racing years. You got me up.
Bishop B
Yeah, I'll be shitty then.
Craig Melvin
Cause there's no way a woman ain't looking at you like, how do I tell him no? Cause if his daddy ain't this taking, we about to leave this big ass house.
DJ Wells
Nah, he do look a little bit like Henry, but Henry ain't got this duplex.
Craig Melvin
Let me go and cut that rose on.
DJ Wells
Y'all crazy, man. Hey, you see Jimmy for that photo?
Bishop B
Yeah. Shout out to Jimmer, man. Gregory Greer, man.
Craig Melvin
Oh, I didn't know he was still hooping.
DJ Wells
Yeah, man, he was playing overseas. He just played in Olympics. Three on three. He's one of the people we talk about. He would have been an nil guy.
Bishop B
Oh, Lord. Man, BYU would have gave him 10 million a year.
DJ Wells
What? You see what they gave AJ for him when Jimmer was on, Boy, he would have never went to the league, bro. He would have been in there killing for four years.
Bishop B
I won't be surprised if we see Jimmer working at byu.
DJ Wells
That'd be fire.
Bishop B
Assistant GM doing something like that won't be surprised.
Craig Melvin
Nah, that's dope. He had a hell of a career then. Cause, shit, Jim Fredette been playing basketball a long time.
DJ Wells
Then.
Craig Melvin
I thought about that.
Bishop B
Jimmy Fredette came in the league at the wrong time.
DJ Wells
Facts. If he was five years later.
Bishop B
Cause he Peyton Pritchard.
DJ Wells
Damn.
Bishop B
Yep, he would have been Peyton Pritchard. He could shoot the lightest. He could shoot the ball like a motherfucker. But he came in the league at a time where you had to do. You couldn't just be a shooter at that size. You was just gonna be A shooter. You had to be at least six, seven. Damn.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, he was far off.
Bishop B
I mean, think about it. All the shooters. Look, JJ Redick was six'five Kyle six, Kyle six'seven Yeah. All those.
DJ Wells
Peja was tall as shit. Yeah.
Bishop B
Novak, all these dudes are just shooters. You couldn't be a point guard like that and just be able to shoot. You gotta be able to do a bunch of shit.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Cause even Mike Miller's six'eight Cause he wasn't no facilitator.
Craig Melvin
For real, by no means. Damn, that's true.
DJ Wells
His college mixtape is so elite.
Bishop B
Oh, that cross. He got one of the deadliest crossovers.
DJ Wells
Bro, bro. Boom, boom. Pull up to the.
Bishop B
Pull up three. Shout out to him, man. Congratulations, man.
DJ Wells
Shout out to Jimmy for that, man. One of the Colts to ever do it in college for sure. I don't know if you've seen this, T, but I know you saw this. Jeremy Lynn. We need Jeremy Lynn with more podcasts. Cause he is out here saying stuff people probably shouldn't hear. But we love it anyway. He got in there and said, Kevin Martin used to look in the game, be like, oh, I ain't gonna have too many points tonight. I don't know what play he was trying to set in this situation, but we about to hear a response from Kevin Martin.
Bishop B
Man, Kevin Martin used to say he didn't want to be the All Star.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop B
So he would. If I got too many points, I'm gonna chill out. He want to make the All Star team.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. He said he wanted that from Lamb. He said he wanted that time to be spent with himself, you know what I mean? And his family. So, I mean, I understand that, but.
DJ Wells
It'S a hell of a way to say it.
Craig Melvin
I don't know, man. Y'all know how I feel about the NBA. It is what it is. But shit, that. I just want to get paid, bro. Basically, I don't want all the extra shit. He wasn't a limelight type of guy anyway.
DJ Wells
Nah.
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And no matter what the day holds.
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DJ Wells
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When things are tough, we talk about it.
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Craig Melvin
I'm not shaving. I just don't want to play no more. Yeah, Cause niggas sit out and they don't be hurt. They have fake injuries.
DJ Wells
Touche.
Bishop B
No, but if you really go watch Kevin Martin play, that nigga used to score 20 points in the first quarter and then wasn't scored. He scored like two the rest of the game. It used to be crazy. He scored all his points in the first quarter.
Craig Melvin
That's wild, bro.
DJ Wells
And he was a fucking bucket. Yeah, like his Kevin Martin was cold.
Bishop B
Cause people used to always say he had empty stats. Cause they'd be like, oh, he only killed at the beginning of the game. Like he's non existent in the fourth. People used to say that all the time.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. Cause they was losing like a motherfucker.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he was in some sad locations, unfortunately.
Bishop B
Yeah, he non existent in the fourth, but he averaged 20 points a game. And it used to be all like he had for legit. He averaged like eight or nine points.
DJ Wells
In the first quarter.
Craig Melvin
That is crazy, bro. It was all the first. Like you said, the first quarter, first half. But for you, he's a special talent. And that jump shot was ugly than a motherfucker.
Bishop B
That was one of the weakest looking jump shots I ever seen.
DJ Wells
That cash money, efficient as hell. Paul's got that off on anybody around. Like, did he make the All Star.
Craig Melvin
Team at least once?
Bishop B
I don't even know.
DJ Wells
I don't think he did.
Bishop B
I know he averaged 20. What's he. What was his like career high points per game? His career high? Like. Yeah, 24. What do you average? 24.6.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I figured it was like 24 with the Kings.
DJ Wells
What year is that film? I'll be asking.
Bishop B
08.
DJ Wells
Damn. Averaging that in 08. Boy, you killing, bro.
Bishop B
He was killing.
Craig Melvin
Cause he played for Minnesota too, right?
DJ Wells
Yeah, Minnesota. Sacramento. Yeah, he's been on a couple of okc. Yeah, he was a part of the trade.
Craig Melvin
Shout out to Kmart.
DJ Wells
Kmart's cold, man. Yeah. Jeremy Lamb, the real gm, the Sacramento Kings. We need more of him, bro. He's hilarious.
Craig Melvin
How? Well, yeah, he probably got so much to talk about. Like. He got a crazy, crazy career, bro. For real. For real. Them OKC days. He was really special.
DJ Wells
Yeah, man. Jeremy Lynn and in college as well. Killed at Yukon. Yeah, killed at UConn.
Bishop B
His career high was 50. Kevin Marr. I know.
DJ Wells
Kevin Mar was a bucket.
Craig Melvin
48, 45, 45, 43, 40, 40, 40, 40,40, 40.
Bishop B
N. He was a buggy.
DJ Wells
Yeah, my boy got to it for sure. This. Oh, this comes out tomorrow. So, yeah, today will be the draft and this Comes out, shout out to Trapper's hunter, Pops. He got allowed to come, you know what I'm saying? Celebrate his son getting drafted. Now he going through some legal issues, but they found a way to make that happen. I think that's super dope. As much as we talk about the tragedies, and every time it's a draft, they talk about how absent people are, there are the worst shit ever. It's dope for him to have a good story, man. He's a hell of a player, and they get to have that time together. It's dope as fuck, man.
Bishop B
Yeah, that's smooth, man. Congratulations to their family, bro.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. This is a dope draft, though. I want to see how that boy do. Nah, I like old boy from Miami, Cam Ward. Yeah. I want to see how he doing. The NFL.
DJ Wells
He'll probably be a titan. That's what. Assuming it's supposed to happen. I really want to see what happens with Shador for sure, because I've been putting a lot of smut on his name the last couple of days. You know what time it is. You know, teams who are interested might even put out a smear campaign just to get you at a lower spot. I'm really interested to see where he goes tomorrow. Well, today. Excuse me.
Craig Melvin
Well, I think he gonna be all right. They probably done kind of got it to where he's gonna go, where he want to go.
Bishop B
Do y'all think. Y'all think he that good?
DJ Wells
I think he's good enough in this draft to be a first round pick for sure. I think so.
Bishop B
I hope so. I mean, that'll be good for the Sanders family. I mean, he goes second round, man, that's a. That's gonna be tough, man.
DJ Wells
He goes second round. That's tough. And not to say that he can't go be productive from the second round. Cause, you know, we just. From the second round goes to the man.
Bishop B
But the swag is turned down. You know what I mean? You gotta turn the swag down just a tad bit.
DJ Wells
Don't humble him, man. I don't like that. Don't try to humble him. I don't like that, man.
Bishop B
I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes people need a little humbling, though. It might put a chip on his shoulder. I mean, I'm not saying he don't. Cause, I mean, people already doubting him and stuff. So he might be going to NFL thinking like, oh, they don't think I can do it. He might have a chip on his shoulder. But if you get Picked in that second round.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
You don't think it's gonna be no more?
Bishop B
We can't.
DJ Wells
Nah. Especially I mean, Ken Ward goes one, that's cool. If another quarterback goes ahead of him in that first round.
Craig Melvin
But I mean, honestly, it's probably a couple more quarterbacks out there that we don't really speak on nationally that are.
DJ Wells
Yep.
Craig Melvin
That the scouts really see. You know what I'm saying? It might be a. A late bloomer that went to a low key school that go above him. I just think him going second round is a little wicked.
DJ Wells
Yeah. I don't like that. He should be a first round pick. He's did enough to be a first round pick. I've seen teams take chances on lesser accomplished players and lesser skill players than him.
Bishop B
Shout out to Daniel Jones.
Craig Melvin
I'm cool with somebody going above him, but him slipping all the way. Nah.
DJ Wells
I see the rumors him going to possibly Pittsburgh, low end first round. That'd be fire.
Bishop B
But think about it. They had. They ain't picked Lamar to the last pick in the first round.
DJ Wells
Come on.
Bishop B
It ain't nothing you couldn't say he ain't doing college.
DJ Wells
Like that's a fact, bro.
Craig Melvin
Oh, absolutely. His stats is way better than Shador.
DJ Wells
One of the best college quarterbacks of all time. Lamar Jackson is like that.
Bishop B
They was questioning his game.
DJ Wells
They saw that man to go be a fucking running back, go be a wide receiver, that's crazy.
Craig Melvin
He wanted a million, though.
DJ Wells
He is. He's one of the best.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.
DJ Wells
That's to hear Belichick say, damn, we should have got Lamar. That's crazy. Like that. Now he's in college. Like, damn. Yeah. We pushed Prochick out here.
Bishop B
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Proctor fucking should have.
Craig Melvin
Lamar went where he supposed to go.
DJ Wells
In a great situation.
Bishop B
Yeah. I mean, he fit Baltimore.
Craig Melvin
Like, nigga went where he's supposed to go.
DJ Wells
But like you said in the draft, you know what I'm saying? Obviously you wouldn't be first round, but if you get where you supposed to go, none of that shit matters anymore.
Bishop B
No. Either you can go hoop or I should say you should go kill on the field or whatever. You get the opportunity. But it just turned the swag down a little bit.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
I'm more excited to see Travis.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
I think. I wonder if they really gonna let him play both sides of the ball like he want to. I know everybody's saying it's hard, but I think he really wanna go for it.
Bishop B
It's impossible, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah.
Bishop B
And I'm not saying he not talented enough to do it. Like he might get to play a couple plays here. Whatever his primary position gonna be, he might get a couple plays on offense, some design plays for him. But to play both of them at a professional level, bro, it's impossible, bro.
DJ Wells
I could see him being a defensive player with some offensive packages. Like, I could see him getting some trick plays. He need to get it out, but consistently, that's a lot to ask.
Craig Melvin
Cause I ain't all the way tapped into football, bro. But I think give him a try, bro.
Bishop B
The elite, we just was talking when we was at the gym today, we was talking about how good people are and like, oh yeah, Lee's are the best of the best, bro. Like it gets no better. Like in college, it's some bums out there. Like majority of the people are not going to make the NFL that make it, you know what I mean? So some of them receivers he was going against, they probably ain't going to the league. Some of the DBs he was going against, probably not going to the league. Everybody on the field are the best, bro. You cannot be like, I'm tired and go out here, somebody's gonna. They gonna lock you up, bro.
Craig Melvin
I think he got a different set of energy. I'm just saying give him a chance to fail.
DJ Wells
That's fair.
Craig Melvin
It's okay.
Bishop B
I mean, I mean, I'm sure somebody gonna draft him to do that, but I'm just saying, bro.
DJ Wells
And also you gotta look at the. This is the NFL, bro. You are injury away from not playing ever again, bro. I cannot run you into the ground, especially if you're gonna be my top 34 pick. Yeah, you will be a corner or a defensive back or a safety with some offensive packaging.
Bishop B
Yeah, this ain't little League, bro.
DJ Wells
But he's that damn special that he could probably pull it off if he wanted to. But we'll see.
Craig Melvin
Nah, for sure.
Bishop B
Cause he not like he was a great receiver. He was good at Colorado. He was probably one of the best receivers. Not gonna lie, he was cold in college ever since.
Craig Melvin
He's a dynamic athlete. Elite.
Bishop B
But he wasn't like crazy at corner. Like, you know, he could be special at corner, but he had to do so much offensively for that team that you couldn't even see how good he really was at corner, you know what I mean?
DJ Wells
Still made plays too.
Bishop B
He made plays, but you could tell like if he played this the whole game, he'd probably be crazy. Yeah, but he was doing so much for them offensively. Cause they would. They needed them. He was their best receiver.
Craig Melvin
I just trust Deion. I with it.
DJ Wells
Yeah. Ain't mad at it.
Craig Melvin
I just trust Deion. Odd, bro. I don't think he gonna put that bark behind nobody who he really don't feel is like that, bro. That know football through and through, bro. You see somebody like that, you kind of like, man, just give him a chance, bro.
Bishop B
I mean, they gonna give him a chance. Whoever drafted er city won't try it, so. And it'll be disappointing if you don't like the crowd gonna come to see him play both sides of the ball.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, he's the one who I'm really like, I'm all right. I'm gonna tap in and watch him just to see.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he might be that one for sure.
Bishop B
You gotta know, it's when you in the NFL, it's like when you a rookie and you come in, people are targeting you. Like, all this motherfucker think he good enough to do this shit. We gonna show this motherfucker. Like, that's how people think. When you come in the league, you think he him like Cooper flag professional. Yeah, that's how Cooper fly. Like, you think you good enough to come into the league and tell me you this much better than us, that you can play the whole game? Fuck right? All right, we gonna see.
Craig Melvin
And I'm taking Cooper, too. He's the most exciting rookie. Travis gonna be the most exciting rookie.
Bishop B
You know what I'm saying? With Cooper fly getting the league. Like, everybody see how much hype he got coming in?
DJ Wells
Yeah, they gonna try to kill him.
Bishop B
They gonna try to be on his ass, bro.
DJ Wells
You see how they did Lonzo? That was crazy.
Bishop B
Come on, niggas was, bro. I was the first person to play Lonzo.
DJ Wells
Oh, then you did play preseason.
Bishop B
First one couldn't wait. Preseason guy. I was tearing him up. Yeah. I'm like, he's sad, y'all. That's what I said. I went to like, he said, he ain't like that. I was like, that shot ain't gonna work.
Craig Melvin
So you went into the game like, yeah.
Bishop B
Cause they had so much. It was a fat ass crowd. We in like, Anaheim with some shit.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
This was my first year on the Timberwolves. So I'm like, I gotta show niggas that I'm on the team with them. Like, I gotta show y'all can hoop for real. It's Lonzo. You a rookie, man. He ain't like that. I'm gonna take the ball from him. I was just Going at him.
Craig Melvin
Oh, okay. He was guarding.
Bishop B
Yeah. But I just knew. I'm like, yeah. And, you know, he was kind of a past first player anyway.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
So in my mind, I'm like, oh, he's scary. Like, he's scary, too. Oh, hell nah. I'm at him and you know, it's a rookie, bro. It's his first game. He just trying to be cool. He ain't trying to do too much. He was just trying to figure it out, make some plays. He was just trying. It was a preseason game. He just. But, nigga, I'm looking at it like, I gotta go at him so he'll know. Like, well, shit. Cause in his head, in my head, he probably thinking like, Jeff T. And kill Jeff T. Like, you know how. That's how nice.
Craig Melvin
Niggas up.
Bishop B
Like, everybody worried about Steph Curry. D Rowe. Yeah. He probably like, Jeff T. I'll be cool. I'm about to show him, like, n. I'm not the nigga you gonna be cool on.
Craig Melvin
So that was his welcome out the gate.
Bishop B
Oh, well, to me, I mean, he probably didn't look at it like that. He probably likes a preseason game, But I'm looking at it like, nigga, I'm going by. You gonna understand every time. You see, it's like, I'm on that with you.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I think they gonna do Cooper flag like that. I mean, you right, But I just think.
Bishop B
I mean, some niggas, you can't do like that. Like, some niggas, we tried to do that, too, and they were just too good. You like, ok. Yeah. He wanted them.
Craig Melvin
When you played Kyrie first, I remember you said, shit, I tried, bro. That nigga just.
Bishop B
He just good.
Craig Melvin
He just special. So that's what I'm hoping. Cooper has that effect, too, but they gonna.
Bishop B
Yeah, and he might be special. N tried to do it with Zion. He was special. It didn't matter. Most definitely they gonna try with Cooper.
DJ Wells
Nah, out the gate for sure, man. Shout out to everybody getting drafted today and the whole entire weekend, man. Changed our family's lives. That's dope, man.
Bishop B
The only thing now, though, is that the new version of, like, veterans and older players. It's not like, when I came in the league, they was mean as fuck. Like, now people embrace you and shit. Like, nigga, KG would not like you a rookie. You wasn't no, nigga. What's up? It's like, welcome to the league, young fella. It was, fuck you looking at, nigga? Like, oh, shit. Like, I wanted to say Hi. Like, n. I've watched you on TV my whole life, and fuck you looking at, nigga? Look the other way, motherfucker. Fuck you looking at me for? And you like, well, fuck you then, bitch. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it wasn't. Now, everybody welcome. Welcome to the league, man. We love you, man. You. So. It's different now that.
DJ Wells
That joke. Him, Noah and KG Story is hilarious. He was like, man, you're my favorite player. You nigga.
Bishop B
That's how they was, bro. It wasn't like, very welcoming at all.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, you right about that, bro.
Bishop B
Like, even Gil. Gil was my favorite player. I sub in the game. He like, I got this. I don't play. I got him. Yeah, this nigga can't play. I got him. Like, what the fuck you wear, number nine now, nigga? Trash, nigga. Fuck you. That's how it was.
DJ Wells
Like, yeah, that's the energy, bro. It's hella competitive.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I think the league gonna get back to that, though. I think so, bro.
Bishop B
Cause the veterans are so young now. Like, you a veteran when you 23, 24. Cause niggas going to the league at 17, 18. You in your fifth, sixth year when you 23. And we know you now. If you've been killing, you in your sixth year, you coming to the league. Niggas looking up to AE already. What's up, big bro? AE23.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
DJ Wells
Yeah, he robbing them, OJ.
Bishop B
Yeah, robbing them. Like, yo, I've been working out with AE. That's my old head. That nigga 23.
Craig Melvin
That's true. But I just think now these. Why I'm saying is because I feel like the youngsters don't give a damn no more. They ain't scared of these old heads no more. So it's. Nigga, you ain't gotta be nice to me. It ain't no old heads anyway, though.
Bishop B
It ain't no old heads no more.
Craig Melvin
I mean, James Harden and Durant, them we old, bro. We 36, 37.
Bishop B
Yeah, but we so young to them, though. Like, you the og. But, nigga, they still better than them. You know what I mean? Like, nigga, when we was our vets, they was ass.
DJ Wells
Like.
Craig Melvin
Oh, you right.
Bishop B
The old heads was ass like, this can't even move no more. Js Hart still getting triple dumbs.
Craig Melvin
I see what you're saying.
Bishop B
Like, now, let's say like. Like, LeBron had 40, but, like, let's just say, like, I'm trying to think of a.
DJ Wells
That Kevin Willis.
Bishop B
Yeah, I ain't trying to disrespect. Let's just say, like, if Melo was still hooping, like when Melo was on his last leg, like, in the league.
Craig Melvin
Nah.
Bishop B
Yeah, he was still good, but we wasn't expecting Melo to get 40. Yeah. Like Vince Carter when he was on his way out.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. You can even say somebody like, I don't know, Gordon Hayward, he a little older.
DJ Wells
Shit, yeah. They had to try him be an OG in Charlotte. I don't know what the fuck they was on.
Bishop B
That's true. Al Horford's a perfect one.
DJ Wells
Al, like, yeah, still contributing.
Bishop B
Still contributing. But he, like, the old.
DJ Wells
He's old.
Bishop B
Like, you don't expect Al when Al have a good game. Motherfuckers. Al still doing it.
Craig Melvin
True.
Bishop B
Yeah. That's like, when I came to the league, Joe Smith was smoking Blacks, nigga. And he knew he only was playing seven minutes. Like, yeah, I got this good seven for y'all. Eric Danpier.
Craig Melvin
Nah, when you put it in that perspective, you right. All the old heads are legit on their way out.
Bishop B
Like, I'm old. They old heads is still starting.
Craig Melvin
Eric Danpier now was on their way.
DJ Wells
Nazare Muhammad wasn't getting in.
Bishop B
Like, these niggas is starting stars still. The guys making trades to build around them still.
Craig Melvin
And, like, I feel like our generation probably got the best talent, though, just because of that. The longevity.
Bishop B
The longevity.
Craig Melvin
The longevity.
DJ Wells
Look at the Pacers. Our OG is James.
Bishop B
Come on, man.
Craig Melvin
That's fucking crazy.
Bishop B
That's crazy.
DJ Wells
He's been our OG for the last couple years. He's our og.
Craig Melvin
That's wild.
Bishop B
And he been the lead for a long time. But you gotta think about he, the old head. He came in the draft with Steph and James Harden. People, that still the guy.
DJ Wells
Yeah, they still play off option one.
Bishop B
Option two, but they calling James the old head. James. Like, nigga, I'm 36, which you old in basketball terms. But it's just like, I still get fly and shit. Like, when I came to the league, them niggas wasn't fly.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. You wasn't trying to dress like Kevin Willis.
Bishop B
I wasn't trying to dress like Kevin Willis at all. I wasn't trying to dress like T. Mac.
Craig Melvin
I like this.
DJ Wells
Hey, T man. Got the iconic Gucci suit fit. That is 8x.
Bishop B
It's so much fabric. I'm like that Taylor.
Craig Melvin
That will be raw, though.
DJ Wells
I know. That was 10 grand. It was all Gucci.
Bishop B
Yeah, I was trying. That is raw, man. I'm just saying. They was old.
Craig Melvin
Nah, you right. You right.
Bishop B
Even look at.
DJ Wells
We talked about it two years ago when G was on the pod. Shout out to Gary. He was the OG in Orlando. He was 30. He was the oldest person on the roster.
Craig Melvin
Didn't talk about that.
Bishop B
You know, he talk. He like your old heads was Be like, nah, young fella, we ain't going out tonight. We got a big one tonight. We.
Craig Melvin
Gary with the we going section already.
Bishop B
I get that motherfucker. Don't worry about it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't no old. It ain't no old hit over here.
DJ Wells
For sure, man. The league is definitely changing. For sure.
Craig Melvin
Yo, Donnis Hasle was the last old head in the NBA for sure, man. For real.
Bishop B
It's him and Vince Carter.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
DJ Wells
That is crazy.
Craig Melvin
Udon has just left the league now.
Bishop B
Al Horford and Boston.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. But, you know, Udon is turning to, like, the real locker room guy.
Bishop B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
DJ Wells
He still practices with the team. He still be there.
Craig Melvin
Yeah. I mean, that's his city. You know what I'm saying? But I'm just saying. That's what Jeff's saying. Like, when he came into the league, he had. It was four Udon.
Bishop B
Yeah. All four of these not getting in the game. But we need them. They gonna be ready, but they not playing. They get Eric. Dan Peer wasn't getting in. Joe Smith boy get there. Thomas would get there. Bo Evans, Darryl, everybody get there.
Craig Melvin
These are 16.
DJ Wells
Hey, Joe Smith smoking a wine. Took black. Him out is the reason why he got something, bro. You out of pocket.
Bishop B
It was old.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, that's true. Because we was kids when Joe Johnson. I mean, Joe Smith was raw babies, bro.
Bishop B
Youngster, sir. I'm like, damn, bro, My dad used to talk about you. He like, man, what the.
Craig Melvin
That's crazy.
Bishop B
Bibby was my old head. I met Bibby when I was 10. You was a star. Arizona, like, yeah. It was just different.
DJ Wells
Shout out to Mike B. Man. Speaking of old heads. Had to answer the guest in Vegas, the gang.
Bishop B
All day, I forgot about saying the gang.
DJ Wells
Yeah, it's been a real rough week, og.
Bishop B
Oh, gee. Had a tough one, man.
Craig Melvin
That baby gravy boy.
Bishop B
All right, tell me what happened, man. Cause I ain't y'all. Y'all sent it on the plane. Y'all was like, man, we just did an interview and that. Talking about baby gravy or something. What happened?
Savannah Guthrie
He.
Bishop B
He didn't say the baby gravy. Okay, what happened?
Craig Melvin
She's asked.
Bishop B
According to the Text messages that were released by Shannon's team for his black baby gravy. Oh, she want his black she request. She requested it, allegedly. Okay.
DJ Wells
The crazy thing about it is somebody clipped that up and somebody said, is that a. Is that on the menu at Cracker Barrel? I said, what? The baby.
Bishop B
That's some Twitter. Y'all gotta stay on Twitter.
Craig Melvin
No, no, the baby gravy is crazy. I think I was more offended when she said, put this big black baby in me. That would have kind of made my go soft. Watch your mouth because he's probably gonna be light skinned.
DJ Wells
Well, one plus one.
Craig Melvin
Yo, Jaden could be light skinned.
DJ Wells
He's definitely gonna be Jaden.
Bishop B
Jaden, yeah.
Craig Melvin
Jaylen.
Bishop B
Jaden.
DJ Wells
Jaden. Christian.
Bishop B
Christian is definitely a mixed kid's name.
Craig Melvin
Shout out to my Christian.
DJ Wells
Oh, my dog Christian. Josh. This is the gang for sure.
Craig Melvin
My. That's crazy though, man.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I think that we just need to take text message away from people above the age of 50. We just need to go ahead and cut them out for that. They need to go back to pagers.
Craig Melvin
Well, this is how I look at it. I think the text is the only thing to save this situation at this point.
Bishop B
I think we keep the sex.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, that's. Those are great receipts to have because it shows, like, hey, we just talking dirty. Yeah. We don't know what's really happening. We ain't stepping into the case or nothing. But just keeping it at the text messages, bro. That's just how freaky. Talk to each other, bro.
DJ Wells
Yeah, bro.
Craig Melvin
Like those text messages a little like, that's why I'm like, maybe I ain't cut out for the role playing shit, bro. Cause if we gotta talk like that, bro, I'm gonna start joaning all you bitches. Watch your mouth. You going a little too far now.
Bishop B
The black baby.
Craig Melvin
Cause you real white now.
DJ Wells
Real white is hilarious.
Bishop B
The black baby was crazy.
DJ Wells
That is crazy.
Bishop B
So Dr. Umar made me laugh though, bro.
DJ Wells
Dr. Umar is.
Bishop B
You have to promise me you stop bunny hopping. Nigga, I was rolling.
Craig Melvin
He be repeating this.
Bishop B
You have to stop bunny hopping. Promise me you will stop bunny hop.
Craig Melvin
Dudes, I got snow bunny. I be weak. He is fried, Man.
DJ Wells
The funny thing about him is he come out to the hat forever. St. Bunnies, that is. That's his opening bar.
Bishop B
But like, he do all that. Like he don't got problems with his crib, right in this regard. Everything his kids talking about, like, all that.
Craig Melvin
See, he said it like, y'all miss you 30. Go find your daddy. Get Your stupid ass off the Internet right now. Just crazy.
DJ Wells
He said. He said, let's go talk to your mama. I said, all right. We don't need to know this, bro. Handle this off the Internet.
Craig Melvin
Y'all not putting nobody babies on my.
Bishop B
It's over with, man. That run the test.
Craig Melvin
Swive your mouth like Kirk did on Love and hip hop to that baby on the.
DJ Wells
Hey, he hit her with a magic love. Hip hop at the earlier season was some of the best TV ever made them. You already know the Goat. My boy Stevie J. There's a clip, bro. Stevie J, he's in therapy with Mimi and Jocelyn. And Josh is sweating and he takes the napkin and wipes her nose. But he's sitting next to Mimi, bro. She was about to knock everything in that room over, bro. I said, Stevie J is really the Goat, bro.
Craig Melvin
Kirk Frost, Bobby Valentino, Scrappy and Young Jock being free as Ghost. It's crazy, bro.
DJ Wells
Elite TV cast.
Craig Melvin
My dad, Young Jock was a fool on that motherfucker, man.
DJ Wells
And Scrappy. Scrappy was going crazy.
Craig Melvin
Nah, for sure. But yeah, don't put them babies on Umar, man. Y'all just clean up. Y'all text, man, but keep them.
DJ Wells
Yeah, man, just. Just be careful, man. It's real tricky out here. You know? Bill Belichick walk around with his young girlfriend. Don't nobody say shit.
Bishop B
Cause he wifed her, though.
Craig Melvin
I. I just say if he would.
Bishop B
Have walked around with her and dated her, like, this is something. I mean, you don't gotta be. You can have a private life all you want. Yeah, you don't gotta do that. But Bill Belichick is not hiding Shorty.
DJ Wells
Nah, he was. He snuck out Shorty career with his shirt off in the car. That's my love.
Craig Melvin
Who you love? But I just. I just think it's just tricky out here. Everybody mindset is different. I just going there. Dating somebody from OnlyFans is nuts.
Bishop B
I just think, man, if I'm 54, it's just me. I'm gonna have me something that's like a little closer to my age.
Craig Melvin
Y'all want a Lisa ray? Damn near 40 with our age gap.
Bishop B
Is kind of still.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
Cause we ain't got nothing in common. You like the Commodores? Nigga, I like.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
Something that I like. I don't know, Jodeci. We.
Craig Melvin
Nah, for sure. That's tough.
DJ Wells
Tricky situation, man. Best wishes. 70 years old.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I see.
DJ Wells
Bitch like Lana. Where's she from?
Craig Melvin
I ain't fucking no bitch to know. Earth 1 and 5.
DJ Wells
So.
Bishop B
What'S the oldest song on your playlist, bro. They like, if you, you wife, you about to do y'all.
Craig Melvin
If I'm getting in the moment. It's something from the 90s. I can't hear no. The line of riches.
Bishop B
Mike. Oh, this song on your playlist where you said.
Craig Melvin
And I don't want to say y'all gonna judge me if I say the name.
Bishop B
Something about lsg. I'm sure you are young as that.
DJ Wells
Group was formed after all their problems have passed.
Craig Melvin
That was.
Bishop B
That's my. I think that was.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, I was born 93.
Bishop B
No, 97.
DJ Wells
Yeah, I was four.
Craig Melvin
So I understand.
Bishop B
Yeah.
Craig Melvin
Damn. LSG. Damn, that slow. They making love of that.
Bishop B
My body is my first. My body.
Craig Melvin
Oh, yeah.
DJ Wells
Hey, that's a bank.
Craig Melvin
That was the first phone number I ever remember. Damn.
DJ Wells
Wait, what?
Craig Melvin
911-0024.
DJ Wells
The origin story of Freaky Mike.
Craig Melvin
I might need to go to therapy because that's all my daddy played was, like, R and B music. That might be a reason. You're right.
DJ Wells
I mean, RV music is fire. He was supposed to make you listen to raps. They was.
Bishop B
They was.
DJ Wells
Don't put that smell on pops, man.
Bishop B
Oh, gee.
DJ Wells
I got your back, man.
Craig Melvin
At 4 years old, should I really.
Bishop B
Be singing my body?
DJ Wells
Bro, you in the back seat, bro. Go to sleep.
Bishop B
I knew.
Craig Melvin
Am I really singing genuine? You got to go from there, then you got to hear something to, you know, get it sexy.
Bishop B
Nah, that's never coming off.
DJ Wells
That's a nasty transition.
Craig Melvin
Well, you know this ass super fat. Yeah. Lie.
DJ Wells
You wild.
Savannah Guthrie
Come on.
DJ Wells
You w. Before we get out here, I want y a question. S on the playlist. If a gospel song. Come on. You know what I'm saying? Me hoops that. Are y'all changing it, or is it just.
Craig Melvin
I'm not turn to Ephesians.
Bishop B
I'm. I'm. I'm turning it, bro.
Craig Melvin
I'm thrashing. I will. Since we talk about sex songs, though, I'm telling YouTube, man. Chris Brown 2012 nailed something to the cross to that as a fire firearm.
Bishop B
The sky was going.
Craig Melvin
Yeah, that's just a side note, y'all.
Bishop B
That's a fire song.
Craig Melvin
But, yeah, gospel. Come on. Cause you're supposed to be locked in anyway, so you know, whether it's Yolanda or Kirk. Donnie must praise.
Bishop B
I'll turn that motherfucker clean up when.
DJ Wells
The Marvin come on.
Craig Melvin
Yeah.
Bishop B
Lock the doors.
DJ Wells
Close them when you see this flop up. You know what time it is?
Craig Melvin
I didn't got that Something in the church basement before. Oh w ways when I hear music at my house. This is could be no worse. That pew I'm to the cross.
DJ Wells
The resurrection, the real Sunday service.
Bishop B
Resurrection res for real.
DJ Wells
I wish you still had Rose Sparks. We could have had a great ad right there.
Craig Melvin
Well, lift that dress up.
Bishop B
We fall down, but we get up.
Craig Melvin
Cause the basement is no longer the church, bro.
Bishop B
Yes, it is.
Craig Melvin
No, it's not.
Bishop B
Cause the sage.
Craig Melvin
You only out of pocket, bro, if you in that sanctuary, bro. And you know, is this during like.
Bishop B
Choir rehearsal or something? Or is it just.
Craig Melvin
This is just so. I don't know. None of y'all really go to church, but my granddad is a whole pastor. I mean. Okay, tell me about it later. You got day church and then I was a musician, so we had night church. So night church get out about seven or eight and then, you know, you can do whatever those night service. You usually immediately go home. It's no stay after nothing, so. But you stayed after. Yeah, we parlayed.
Bishop B
I helped you.
Craig Melvin
I helped clean up. Yeah, my auntie was cleaned up. I helped her clean up and. Auntie, you good? Yeah, I got the mop. I got it from here. That's the last thing we do. Shorty stayed and we. I don't know, bro. It just was. It happened, bro. Like a movie. The mama was there.
Bishop B
Lord willing.
Craig Melvin
Almost got a teddy.
Savannah Guthrie
All of that.
DJ Wells
Note, it's a perfect time to get the out of here. Be here so the people that grab some merch.
Craig Melvin
Shopclub520.com well, don't hit nobody in the church, y'all. I'm the volume.
Savannah Guthrie
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Club Shay Shay: Club 520 - Jeff Teague on COOKING Lonzo Ball, NFL Draft Predictions, Why He's DONE with Kanye West
Release Date: April 24, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guests: Jeff Teague
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts Jeff Teague, a renowned basketball player, to delve into a variety of topics ranging from personal hobbies to professional insights. The conversation offers listeners an engaging mix of sports discussions, personal anecdotes, and candid opinions.
Timestamp: [16:37]
Jeff Teague opens up about his passion for cooking, particularly emphasizing how it serves as a therapeutic outlet for him. He shares his favorite recipes and the importance of maintaining a balanced lifestyle through hobbies outside of sports.
Jeff Teague: "Cooking helps me unwind after intense training sessions. It's my way of staying grounded and creative."
Timestamp: [03:32]
Shannon and Jeff discuss Lonzo Ball's impact on the basketball scene. Jeff praises Lonzo's skills and work ethic, highlighting why he believes Lonzo is a future star in the league.
Shannon Sharpe: "Lonzo has that unique blend of intelligence and athleticism. He's a game-changer."
Timestamp: [58:05]
Shannon and Jeff transition into NFL draft predictions, analyzing potential top picks and team needs. Jeff provides his insights on which players he believes will make significant impacts in their new teams.
Jeff Teague: "I think we'll see some surprises this year, especially in the quarterback position. There's talent waiting to be unleashed."
Timestamp: [39:05]
The conversation takes a serious turn as Jeff discusses his strained relationship with Kanye West. He reveals the reasons behind his decision to distance himself from Kanye, citing personal conflicts and differing life perspectives.
Jeff Teague: "Kanye and I had irreconcilable differences. It's time for me to focus on my own path without the drama."
Timestamp: [45:50]
Jeff shares personal stories about overcoming challenges both on and off the court. He emphasizes the importance of resilience and staying true to oneself amidst adversity.
Jeff Teague: "Every setback is an opportunity to grow. It's all about how you respond to those challenges."
Timestamp: [62:32]
Looking ahead, Jeff talks about his future plans post-retirement, including potential ventures in coaching and community service. He expresses his desire to give back and mentor the next generation of athletes.
Jeff Teague: "I want to use my experience to help young players navigate their careers and make positive choices."
In this episode, Jeff Teague provides an intimate look into his life beyond basketball, offering valuable insights into his personal interests, professional opinions, and the challenges he's navigated. Shannon Sharpe skillfully guides the conversation, ensuring a rich and engaging dialogue that resonates with listeners who seek both inspiration and authentic stories from sports figures.
Note: This summary is based on the provided transcript excerpts and may not capture all elements of the full episode. For the most comprehensive understanding, listening to the full episode is recommended.