Club 520 - Jeff Teague responds to Nancy Lieberman CALLOUT on Caitlin Clark, Kyle Korver story, WWE SummerSlam

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay - "Club 520 - Jeff Teague responds to Nancy Lieberman CALLOUT on Caitlin Clark, Kyle Korver story, WWE SummerSlam"

Release Date: August 7, 2025
Hosts: DJs DJ Wells and Jake Hofer, alongside guest Az Fudd

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Introduction

In this lively episode of Club Shay Shay, hosts DJ Wells and Jake Hofer, joined by guest Az Fudd, delve into a variety of topics ranging from sports critiques to personal anecdotes. The conversation is peppered with humor, personal stories, and candid opinions, offering listeners an engaging and multifaceted discussion.

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Jeff Teague Responds to Nancy Lieberman's Callout on Caitlin Clark

Discussion Highlights:

The conversation kicks off with references to Jeff Teague's recent comments regarding Nancy Lieberman's callout on Caitlin Clark. The hosts dissect Jeff's perspective on Caitlin's performance in the league.

• Jake Hofer mentions Jeff Teague's stance:

  "Jeff was on here talking about she was a silver medalist Candace. He said Candace Parker would never. Lisa Leslie."
  (06:07)

• DJ Wells elaborates on the comparison:

  "She a hall of famer, legend in the game. Shout out."
  (26:34)

Notable Quotes:

• DJ Wells on Caitlin Clark's potential:

  "I'm not saying Kaylin Clark gonna be a great player, but right now, she's just a good player. There's people in the league better than her."
  (19:10)

• Jake Hofer responds to criticism:

  "Are you disrespectful if them is fire?"
  (14:48)

Insights:

The hosts express a balanced view, acknowledging Caitlin Clark's talents while also highlighting the depth of talent in the league. They emphasize the importance of recognizing both emerging players and established stars.

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Kyle Korver Story

Discussion Highlights:

The episode touches upon Kyle Korver, a notable figure in basketball, though details are sparse in the transcript. The conversation hints at a story or experience related to Korver that the hosts find noteworthy.

Notable Quotes:

• Jake Hofer reflects on past experiences:

  "I went to high school together."
  (08:04)

• DJ Wells shares insights:

  "She said she had the Mexicans on everything. Everybody was rocking them at that time."
  (08:16)

Insights:

While specific details about Kyle Korver's story are limited, the discussion suggests a personal connection or anecdote that adds depth to the hosts' perspectives on basketball history and culture.

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WWE SummerSlam

Discussion Highlights:

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to WWE SummerSlam, where DJ Wells and Jake Hofer share their experiences attending the event.

• DJ Wells praises the treatment received at WWE events:

  "We get treated like you really one of the guys now."
  (31:35)

• Jake Hofer compares WWE experiences favorably to other sporting events:

  "The WWE experiences better than any sporting event."
  (31:21)

Notable Quotes:

• DJ Wells on the venue setup:

  "Chuck pulled up. You know what I'm saying?"
  (32:20)

• Jake Hofer on fan engagement:

  "They sold it out. Yeah, we might not be in your city for six months, so I'm pulling up."
  (39:07)

Insights:

The hosts highlight the unique atmosphere of WWE events, emphasizing the exceptional hospitality and sense of inclusion they experienced. They discuss the logistical aspects of attending such events, including ticketing and the overall fan engagement, painting a picture of SummerSlam as a standout entertainment spectacle.

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Additional Topics

Beyond the main segments, the conversation weaves through various other subjects:

• Product Endorsements:
  The hosts promote Mando deodorant, discussing its effectiveness and personal experiences with the product.

  "Mando deodorant, they got totally different types of ways that you can apply."
  (02:32)

• Footwear Discussions:
  There's an animated discussion about various shoe models, their comfort, and style preferences.

  "Jeff Teague’s take, though."
  (06:15)

• Social Media and Fan Interaction:
  DJ Wells and Jake Hofer talk about their interactions on platforms like Twitter and Instagram, sharing anecdotes about fan messages and content creation.

  "They want me to hate somebody. And I'm like, if y'all know, like, we like Caitlin Clark, we think she's good."
  (27:43)

• Personal Anecdotes:
  The hosts share stories from their personal lives, including trips to Magic Kingdom and reflections on past sporting events.

  "The best thing would have to have been. The Peter Pan ride was so lit."
  (53:25)

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay—Club 520—offers a dynamic blend of sports discourse, personal stories, and light-hearted banter. Hosts DJ Wells and Jake Hofer, with guest Az Fudd, provide listeners with an engaging narrative that balances serious analysis with entertaining exchanges. Whether discussing the legitimacy of player critiques, the allure of WWE events, or sharing personal experiences, the conversation remains insightful and relatable for a diverse audience.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Jake Hofer:

  "Jeff was on here talking about she was a silver medalist Candace. He said Candace Parker would never. Lisa Leslie."
  (06:07)

• DJ Wells:

  "I'm not saying Kaylin Clark gonna be a great player, but right now, she's just a good player. There's people in the league better than her."
  (19:10)

• Jake Hofer:

  "She was good. She only been in the league for two years."
  (19:19)

• DJ Wells:

  "The erg Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day."
  (Not applicable in this context)

• DJ Wells:

  "We get treated like you really one of the guys now."
  (31:35)

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Note: This summary focuses solely on the content-rich sections of the transcript, excluding advertisements, intros, outros, and other non-essential segments to provide a clear and comprehensive overview of the episode's key discussions.

Transcript

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[Az Fudd]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, man, before I step foot in any of my clothes, man, I'm wiping down with the mando to roll on. I'm spraying my balls, bro, getting them together. Got to be a long day. It's two or three hours on that grill, man. So shout out to mando.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, man, however you stay fresh, you stay fresh, man. Shout out to mando. Listen, it was created by a doctor. He saw firsthand how bad that body odor can be, man. You never want that. So listen, man, they made something for us, especially all day and up to 72 hours, man. Don't got you locked in for a couple days if you need be, man. That's crazy. You wilding if you're using it for 72 hours. But it's all right because if it do, it lasts that long. But I'm taking a shower by then. Listen, man, Mando deodorant, they got totally different types of ways that you can apply, you know what I'm saying? If you want to spray, they got the spray for you for sure. And if you traditional, the roll on stick, they got you for that as well, man. Both of them are efficient and going to hold you down for at least 72 hours, man. And the products is made very, very clean, very, very thoughtful, man. Bacon soda free, Farabin free as well for some of those. And listen, they got the different flavors be here. I know you got a couple scents you rocking with.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, but my favorite is the bourbon leather, man.

[DJ Wells]

Okay. I'm more of a, you know, pro sport kind of guy for sure, man. Hey, shout out to the clover woods hold you down as well. It's been proven to control odor better than the shower is. Soap alone for 12 hours after the shower is going to hold you down, man, throughout your whole entire day.

[Jake Hofer]

No excuse to be musty shot, man.

[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

Just like that paternity test you took, okay?

[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

That's right. $99.99 on a 5G network. It's nationwide. And I'm 99% sure that boost Mobile just gave us a crazy deal with this promo. Nah, this is crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

You are the father.

[DJ Wells]

It does require credit qualification, ID verification, and an activation on a $6 plan. Taxes are extra, and 5G speeds may not be available in all areas. But they said it was nationwide. Just not in your hood. Your neighbor good, though. All right, man. We back another episode of Club 520 podcast. I'm your host. My name is DJ Wells. Same gang with me. To my left, we got my dog Bishop B heing out the prayer lease. How you what? Nasty?

[Jake Hofer]

Nasty. Let's get to it, baby.

[DJ Wells]

My boy been p so long, he back in the white forces with it.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, man, rough day. Had to throw these back in, man. Found them in the back of the closet.

[DJ Wells]

He l. He just pulled them out the box. I seen him lace up when he got here.

[Jake Hofer]

No, you're lying. They got my OG license in them. I don't even got no more.

[DJ Wells]

I seen you lacing them up. It just be lying, bro. I'm calling everybody out. Matter of fact, the introduction. What's her name? Oh, yeah, I believe that's her name. Shout out to Nasty. I ain't gonna lie.

[Jake Hofer]

Jeff was on here talking about she was a silver medalist Candace. He said Candace Parker would never. Lisa Lesl.

[DJ Wells]

Never.

[Jake Hofer]

Cynthia Cooper will never, never. Damn, that's crazy.

[DJ Wells]

C might have been on that te. So I got to check for. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

That was Jeff Teague's take, though.

[DJ Wells]

Thoughts by Jeff T. That's cool. That's cool. I'll take that. Shout out to the quotes man to write my dog hook Nacho your T. How you what? I'm chilling, man. I remember these. The no sho strings. These are so weak. Wow. It's one of the bad Jordan creations, right? Yeah. When they redid those, well, I think it was like maybe 2013, something like that maybe. Or is it a little bit further? But anywho, I didn't understand the no laces, though. I get it wild for the Fresh Prince. Give me the option, bro. Yeah, they actually hard to put on too. For real? Yeah, they not like the tongue, not like loose. It's like, oh, damn. They actually hard to put on. Yeah, I love the grapes. That's the one I did not get, but. Yeah, but I was like, oh, they first prince is kind of legendary. So I guess.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, I'll with them.

[DJ Wells]

All right, man. It was a crazy weekend in shoes last week, man. I'm gonna see you go for two, man. You get undefeated sword. Tens.

[Jake Hofer]

Over two. Man over two.

[DJ Wells]

I got the undefeated. Yeah, but I'm probably gonna get the tens here soon. I didn't get them.

[Jake Hofer]

I seen them in person.

[DJ Wells]

The 10.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, they cool. But I mean, if I don't know that that toe part is a toe box, it's. It's a lot. I actually liked it better in person.

[DJ Wells]

You seen them? I haven't seen them. I like the better in person. Who got them?

[Jake Hofer]

Eight and a half, but, yeah, nobody has them.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. Those were quote unquote limited. So I was a little surprised, you know what I'm saying? We're over two as well. But there's so much stuff coming out, man. You can't get everything. For real? For real. Yeah, but speaking of shoes, though, young Miami, man, back in the days. This is 08. Her and Gino. Gino Smith. Shout out to Geno Smith.

[Jake Hofer]

I went to high school together.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man, they was on her head, you know what I'm saying? She had on the six rings. The O.G. they said she.

[Jake Hofer]

I used to wear them too.

[DJ Wells]

She said she had the Mexicans on everything. Everybody was rocking them at that time.

[Jake Hofer]

I didn't have them, but I had.

[DJ Wells]

A pair of hooped in them. People had six rings, y'. All. If you wasn't there, you wasn't there. Now if you're doing it now, you out of pocket. But yeah, them was all right back then. That was acceptable at that time period because even the forces he got on my boy General had on the Olympic joints. I think it Might have been the Charles Barkley pack. I remember three pair of forces that came out like every other Friday. And then it was either a pack or you got whatever team shoes came out.

[Jake Hofer]

Six rings wasn't a vibe. Those wasn't treated like team Jordans though.

[DJ Wells]

They weren't. They was treated like people was buying the six rings, bro. I remember when I got them from cp, he like, these is all the ones he want a ring in combined. I'm like, woohoo. He was like, they ain't even out yet. He was like, you can have a pair.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't know.

[DJ Wells]

I still got them too. I ain't gonna lie to you. That colorway right there too. I ain't going to lie. That colorway did numbers. That Olympic colorway did crazy numbers. People had the six ring. You weren't out of pocket for wearing them. No, you wouldn't.

[Jake Hofer]

I know people had them, bro, but that, that was a. Now we can say it's a weak shoe.

[DJ Wells]

It's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's weak. Now today is nasty. Like I'm not everywhere it spins like today. But yeah, I was something like had them Fusion Air Force One mix. Oh yeah, that Fusion 12. Oh, that was. That CO Fusion 5 boys was something on those that came out the summer too.

[Jake Hofer]

Was tapped in is nuts. I just want y' all know I've never done this. I don't even know what that is right there.

[DJ Wells]

I seen the whole. The whole hood had them. Yeah, them, not my hood. What? Some from your hood had them too.

[Jake Hofer]

Everybody in my ghetto had them.

[DJ Wells]

I swear to God. It was some over there that wanted them if they didn't. And they had that black and red pair right there. Go to that black and red. That black red pair was nasty in your hood. I swear to God. I know two.

[Jake Hofer]

Nobody had to fake files in my hood.

[DJ Wells]

Please go to the fusion 12s, cuz people had them. Yeah, a hell of people had them. Shits was trash.

[Jake Hofer]

A Fusion 12.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Oh, the whole hood people did have. That was the first one.

[Jake Hofer]

Then was in my ghetto for sure. Them other shits that y just pulled.

[DJ Wells]

Up, absolutely telling you, bro, that was in your hood, cuz.

[Jake Hofer]

This is more like a. A Air Force One.

[DJ Wells]

That mug is weak. It's better than that Fusion F. You.

[Jake Hofer]

Know it's hurt slowly. 100%.

[DJ Wells]

The box that it comes in is crazy too. It's got the elite package USD use getting a premium shoe out. That. That terrible.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, that Jordan. Jordan.

[DJ Wells]

Boy, the fact that somebody was in the office meeting, which Is like, let's combine George. The forces that everybody thought he cooked in the situation. He did, though. He got. It was vital.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm gonna order me some Eddie Jones, though.

[DJ Wells]

I want some, man. Shout out to. Hey, good. He posted something the other day. They showed it like, the year 97 for shoes. It was a crazy year shoes. The Eddie Jones and the Jumpman pros. Them both came out the same. It was a lot of heat and came out in 97. That was a crazy. Like the msmiths. We were just talking about them Deshaun Kemp twos. It was a crazy year in shoes.

[Jake Hofer]

Y' all weren't wearing grand heels.

[DJ Wells]

Hell, yeah. The blues I had. I had the blue ones for sure. I had the USA colorway.

[Jake Hofer]

The all white ones.

[DJ Wells]

All white, blue and red. Yeah, I was. I was in usa.

[Jake Hofer]

That's literally the only accessible fila.

[DJ Wells]

I mean, when we was in high school, niggas was rocking the. The forever. I love Atlantis. Had a run, even though it was nasty. Double strap joint pause.

[Jake Hofer]

Like if you had two straps. That's crazy.

[DJ Wells]

The two straps was them high top pumas and people trying to get off. I got them off. Yeah, bro. It was heat, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

You never got too much.

[DJ Wells]

I swear to God I did. Me and my older brother put me on. He like these tough pumas with two straps. Oh. Oh, my God.

[Jake Hofer]

With two straps?

[DJ Wells]

No, no, these. No, that was pumas. The felis had one.

[Jake Hofer]

They was at underground stage.

[DJ Wells]

That's what I'm talking about. They had the all black suede pair. Excuse me.

[Jake Hofer]

I had a dial back. Them was trash.

[DJ Wells]

Them was tough, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

No, bro, the pumas with the two straps.

[DJ Wells]

Hell, man. Don't find them, Mike. They was too high, bro. Bro, they was. They was high as hell. Y. Y' all sleep, man. Shout out to my brother Terrell, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

What the.

[DJ Wells]

Would you even put on with Puma? 2 straps jeans. It was. It's a wild search, but nah, it ain't like that. You ain't gonna find. Hey, he's old school. Yeah, they are scared for that search war. And they. They only definitely used to have that black suede colorway. I mean, all black. What color did you have? I had all white. I had some. I had some black and white ones. Oh, you didn't look at. Not. They kind of like that. That wasn't it. This right here. Yeah, Them is tough, bro. You're on sight to see them. That's how you know they dance trash, bro. Yeah, that all black leather packs you see, but like, nah, tough Bro, now go to that.

[Jake Hofer]

That's a boxing shoe.

[DJ Wells]

Go to the. The fellow with the strap. I think it's like the F13 or something like that. Fire.

[Jake Hofer]

And I used to be a puma God.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, there it is. Yeah, Feel with the strap. Please. Forever. That was definitely the $249.99. Yeah, I wasn't rocking none of them. Nah, it's that second.

[Jake Hofer]

There you go. It's up there.

[DJ Wells]

The black one.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, them was up there.

[DJ Wells]

Them.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

N was them.

[Jake Hofer]

It was.

[DJ Wells]

They just had different colors.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, White, blue and red is cuz.

[DJ Wells]

It was a suede black one. Yeah, yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Throwback party. Yes, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, them is like. Them is fire. The ones he talking about had the strap right here. Nah, that was the ones I'm talking about with the hot strap. Oh, them is. Them is decent. What I'm talking about is the one that came out and everybody was. They had the strap in the middle, man. I just remember all the weird flashback party.

[Jake Hofer]

I definitely bought them. So them outside of the.them is fired.

[DJ Wells]

259.99. You get an old tracksuit with them. Man, you. You cooking. Yeah. They had a black talking about them color that did numbers in the. We was nasty for wearing them. But they are classic. Some of them are classics, for sure.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. I used to always either get out if it was the 2 for 89. I got those fellows with the all blue. I can't remember the name of those New Balances with the gray end on them 574s.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah. Everybody got New Balance. That New balance was definitely that 209. It was getting that. That navy pair or that gray pair. Boys, they're the classics. Them got rocked.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Never turned my back on there. Yeah. I got from a pair of 574s.

[Jake Hofer]

That is a legendary shoe.

[DJ Wells]

I still Them is weak, but they got rock. Are you disrespectful, bro? Are you disrespectful if them is fire?

[Jake Hofer]

You wore two straps. You around probably strap one let other one.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, they used to stick out from the side, bro. I remember them, man.

[Jake Hofer]

Crazy.

[DJ Wells]

I used to wear.

[Jake Hofer]

In that.

[DJ Wells]

I used to have hardboy jeans and cuff them and let them sit on them.

[Jake Hofer]

And I know them was bled on.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, they was. But that's why everybody had that black leather pair. They had the all white pair. All white. Silly, silly white. Sheesh. I was busting.

[Jake Hofer]

Mike. Don't know nothing about them.

[DJ Wells]

It was crazy. I was frustrated.

[Jake Hofer]

I was with y' all on the New Balance.

[DJ Wells]

The 574s. But the rest of this on the time pyramid look. That's what we used to have for back to school. Now they getting designer shoes. It's different for sure, man. Everybody happy than babies out the house now. Everybody went back to school now. Yeah, everybody back in.

[Jake Hofer]

Who's in New York? Bobby pulled out my Louis Vuitton's and warm to school.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to him.

[Jake Hofer]

I had a fit, boy. Pulled out my trainers.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah, he had to get right, bro. First day.

[Jake Hofer]

But I'm seeing all the school picks and I'm like, yeah, these kids is. It's different. I went to his football game last year. I said, damn, they got a whole Mary outfit on at the football game.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man, yeah, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

Bro. Yeah. Unless it's a foo foo ass site that's going insane.

[DJ Wells]

It is.

[Jake Hofer]

These kids going crazy.

[DJ Wells]

They still finesse it. Oh, they get married, you get active on there? Nah, it's. It's a lot of foo foo. But a lot of these parents are spending too much money on their kids. Boy, I need a household in your pockets. But y' all setting some standards, boy. On dhg.

[Jake Hofer]

A whole Mary outfit, bro. Probably a band life for one outfit.

[DJ Wells]

Light going there and see. Oh, yeah, we on DSK right now. What they got for us? Whatever you need. They got the mir.

[Jake Hofer]

They about to blow my computer up. Get the off there. You playing with too much money, boy.

[DJ Wells]

We already got the YouTuber ass. Boy, we can't. Can't afford nothing else. Look, they got some nice over there.

[Jake Hofer]

How much is it, Mike?

[DJ Wells]

6.68.

[Jake Hofer]

Man, get the out of here.

[DJ Wells]

Somebody.

[Jake Hofer]

And they're coming up a mary hoodie for $6.

[DJ Wells]

Bro, that's crazy. But get on that. And he wearing the shisty so I wish you went to him.

[Jake Hofer]

Bobby's happy N. So you quit arguing with me.

[DJ Wells]

Computer.

[Jake Hofer]

Y' all better stop getting on the size.

[DJ Wells]

I thought only the Excites did quit accepting them cookies. Have you ever seen the meme where they was like, I'm on the Oreo website and they said, except they still waiting on them. Y' all was crying. I thought that was funny. Oh, man. Another week, man. T again. You did it again. What did I do? In a news cycle for stuff you may have said a long time topic. What did I say?

[Jake Hofer]

He said, kayn Clark is a good player, but she's not that good. Said, damn.

[DJ Wells]

First of all, what I said was Kayn Clark is not a good player because we were speaking on if you watch Reba. Matter of fact, I'M calling you re because my mom used to like that show. Used to be like, I'm a survivor. My mom used to watch that show for real. And you look like Rebo or you look like lady off Married with Children. But anyway, listen, listen. I said she was good. I didn't want to do that. But I'm gonna make a joke. I don't even. You og I respect whatever you did in your career. I'm not familiar with your game. I didn't watch women's basketball. I wasn't born when you play. No disrespect, but I was saying Caitlin Clark is a good player. She only been in the league for two years. She can't be a great player. Only great player ever came in the league like that was Candace Parker.

[Jake Hofer]

Ah, I ain't gonna say that.

[DJ Wells]

Well, Candace Parker, dimmer one MVP as a rookie. That she did.

[Jake Hofer]

She's not the only one, though. A lot of folks came into the league instead, bro. Maya Moore came into the league, and she.

[DJ Wells]

She was good.

[Jake Hofer]

She came in that step.

[DJ Wells]

They were good. They turned great. I'm not saying Kaylin Clark gonna be a great player, but right now, she's just a good player. There's people in the league better than her.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, you weren't wrong for your take. And it's your opinion, too. I don't think it's like, yeah, I.

[DJ Wells]

Don'T understand why she.

[Jake Hofer]

Because we argue about that on our show. It ain't.

[DJ Wells]

But she didn't watch the show because we were debating about who's the best player on a fever.

[Az Fudd]

Hey, guys, it's AZ Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as the people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to FUT around and find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Wells]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Az Fudd]

We need veteran players and we need young players.

[DJ Wells]

Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Az Fudd]

Get fired up y'. All. Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance Sue Bird, watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really like you just. You can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candice Parker and college superstar Az Fudd. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always gonna keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of I Heart women's sports.

[DJ Wells]

So instead of her not watching the show and just taking a clip and trying to have a moment, because I could really give you a moment. I was about to. I was about to wild on here.

[Jake Hofer]

But it's a different smoke on this one.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I'm gonna respect you cause you're a woman. I can't really.

[Jake Hofer]

And you older. I can't debate.

[DJ Wells]

I'm just playing. What had me crying is her son. Put the 50 meme up. You said. But damn. I'm just like your son said my mom driver. He said, what do you say me for? Cause I can't talk about your mama, bro. It's all love. I don't know you either, but I can't. I gotta go down. I gotta go down the tree or nothing. I don't know if she married or not, so I could torture him. Yeah. And then you was next on the tree. So I can't disrespect no woman or talk crazy to her. I can just say she look like Reba and she do. That's all I can say. Hey, you know it's crazy when Mike Beasley will facilitate. Yeah. He's just like. Oh, he was trolling. Oh, like shout out to be. Trying to. He tried to keep it cool.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, he did.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. But anyway, please, for our people who don't know. Dude, that's hilarious. Shout out to bees.

[Jake Hofer]

That's just funny.

[Az Fudd]

Who I read something today said that, you know Caitlyn Clark or she's just a good player. She's not a great player. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Said that she good, but she not that good.

[Az Fudd]

I love you. You weren't a great player. Okay. You were serviceable. I know you made the all star team one time. I'm sorry if we're gonn serviceable.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm still in that serviceable for your career, my guy.

[DJ Wells]

But you should be. K's great. She got.

[Az Fudd]

She is great.

[DJ Wells]

Serviceable.

[Jake Hofer]

You turn they pod up today, brother.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to him. Y' all welcome. Got you a Christmas gift. Yeah, please give me something. I know y' all was searching. I knew it would had to be something cuz you searching cuz that's why would you like. That's a random conversation.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. And you're clearly not even the only one who's ever said that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

And like, yeah, y' all clickbait. I just wish, for real, I'm okay with y' all talking to us, saying us all that. Just watch the show, though, please. That's it. If y' all just watch the show, then we take all criticism. We talk about everybody too. We don't give a bro. But don't go off some. You don't know the full conversation.

[DJ Wells]

What make it bad is like, she don't understand that I do not care about my career. I literally don't care about my career. I literally come on this show and tell you I don't give a like. But since we're speaking on careers and I'm pretty sure. Never mind. I'm not gonna do that too, man.

[Jake Hofer]

So we just.

[DJ Wells]

I'm gonna leave it alone. She made to the hall of Fame. Shout out to you, bro. Yeah, all right.

[Jake Hofer]

She's doing great things.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know what she's doing, but congratulations.

[Jake Hofer]

She is, man.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know. I never kept up. What you doing?

[Jake Hofer]

Shout, shout out to Dancy, man. Coaching. And she was coaching in the league.

[DJ Wells]

And she coached the league.

[Jake Hofer]

She was assistant coaching in the NBA.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, for real? The D League.

[Jake Hofer]

He's childish.

[DJ Wells]

Did she coach her too?

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, I, I, I really don't know. Ain't no shade to him. I didn't even know she had kids.

[DJ Wells]

She coached in the D League at the Texas Legends. She coached in the Big three in wnba. Head coach of Detroit Shock and assistant coach at the Sacramento Kings.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, she was a coach in the NBA. Mike Petty, D League. It said co. That's the thing for me. But it's above it. It says the Sacramento Kings.

[DJ Wells]

No, it's actually in bold right here. NBA, read the point. You had a very successful run at it. I don't give a damn. But it. I don't care. I, I wasn't keeping Overland, Nancy, whatever her name is.

[Jake Hofer]

I think people really want us to turn to the demons, but, yeah, like.

[DJ Wells]

They want me to, like, hate somebody. And I'm like, if y' all know, like, we like Caitlin Clark we think she's good. I'm just saying, like, we live in Indiana, and I don't think they realize that we watch the games and I see.

[Jake Hofer]

But we talk about that every day, y'.

[DJ Wells]

All. You see Kelsey Mitchell kill. Yeah. We just got in trouble for saying we like Kayla too much and didn't support nobody else. It's like, damn, we be on both ends of the spectrum and don't say nothing. Yeah. I just wonder what she had that same energy for, like. Cause we say everybody, we. Yeah, say somebody sad. We say all type of. But when it was Caitlin, she sure stepped up. We done said stuff about Angel Reese. We didn't talk about me bounds and all type of stuff.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't like that, bro. I hate when people say you can't speak on some shit. Especially you got more ring than her to speak on some. You know what I'm saying? Cuz you played in the league. But I just don't like that, cuz people act like you can't criticize anything. I'm like, you didn't probably heard some music and be like, oh, that's trash. You can't rap. She go in there and make a. You know what I mean? A beat or a song. So I don't know. People just takes it out of context.

[DJ Wells]

And I wish. If she said that. I said that Clay's not that good or she's not great. I said, she's good. I said, she's not great. I wish she would have said why she's great instead of saying you weren't good or you weren't great. It's like, okay. It's a bunch of people who make comments about people that play never played basketball day in their life. Like, I could say you tried them playing with men, like with dudes when she grew up, I guess, or whatever. I'm sure she did. I'm like, you sucked. Cause you a girl. Like, I could be like, you sucked. You played against dude. I bet they killed you. That's not fair. You know what I mean? I wouldn't hold Stephen A. To the same criteria that I would hold Kevin Garnett. Like, I know you ain't hoop, bro. Like that. But you got an opinion, though.

[Jake Hofer]

Respect, man.

[DJ Wells]

But her saying, oh, you weren't good. I'm like, I don't care if obviously you don't know the show. Like, I don't give a.

[Jake Hofer]

Clearly you don't watch. You service. You was all star. You were serviceable, though.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. The fact that you played technique plus service was crazy. Yeah, but I get it.

[Jake Hofer]

I with that, though.

[DJ Wells]

Serviceable.

[Jake Hofer]

I gotta add that to the T.

[DJ Wells]

I liked it too. I like. It's kind of like. It's a. It's a.

[Jake Hofer]

That's a good clean way to say some.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, it's a clean way to say it. Like, I was gonna go in on you. You so lucky you owed. I was gonna torture you.

[Jake Hofer]

Okay, that's enough.

[DJ Wells]

I was gonna torch her, brother. You know, I was gonna say, she's so lucky. My old head called me and said, please don't do. I was like, oh, this is what they always wanted. This is what the people want. They want Jeff to say this.

[Jake Hofer]

That would have been a real NBA versus WNBA right there.

[DJ Wells]

I was going to torture.

[Jake Hofer]

That've been the war they wanted.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, I was going to torture. We got bigger battles, man. We try to get the. Look what Nancy on. I was about to torture this nasty. Figure out why they throw the nose on the court. You had bigger fish to fry. She probably through it.

[Jake Hofer]

Throw the whole rainbow to court it.

[DJ Wells]

I was. Yo, I was about to torch her, bro. I had some heaters in church. I'm. I'mma respect OG and I'm. She a hall of famer, legend in the game. Shout out. They were just like, hey, this T really be everywhere, cuz. I he beefing with Ness. Like, looks crazy. Your word. Like, I should have did the 50 things. Like, why you jumping in some beef? I, you know, D say he gonna put it on the ether beat.

[Jake Hofer]

That's funny as.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man, Shout out to the OG man. Man. Shout out to her, man. Oh, listen, feel good to be back in the studio, man. We've been on the road, man. Shout out to New York, man. How was your time in New York? We had a good time for sure.

[Jake Hofer]

N. I had a damn good time in New York. The WWE experiences better than any sporting event anything they've ever been a part of, sports wise, bro. So I'm. I'm very, very grateful for the wwe.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, I agree, man. The treatment that they give us is unbelievable. This ain't like an ad read or nothing, y'. All.

[Jake Hofer]

This is just like, y' all understand, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Like, this is j. Like, you get treated like you really one of the guys like, now.

[Jake Hofer]

Shout it. Shout out to y', all, though. But us having to get banded up that many times, I got a little frustrated.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, listen, I.

[Jake Hofer]

But I said this must be some for royalty because we had to go to this table, to this table, to this Booth. But once we got inside and everything was smooth. Yeah. Top tier treatment.

[DJ Wells]

Now listen, man, shout out to Chuck, man. WWE getting us all the fire guest. Make sure we got a one treatment. He even came and bailed out Mouth, man. It got spooky at the door. But we about to have no BTS footage. Chuck pulled up. You know what I'm saying?

[Jake Hofer]

The goats. You were the goat.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I rock with you.

[Jake Hofer]

So that's premium treatment. Like, it's. It's crazy, man.

[DJ Wells]

Not Patreon. Please say a shout out to Chuck. Cause he's the only reason y' all got that footage. My boy pulled up and said, hey, man, watch the out. Yeah, Chuck. A real one. And we get food, yo. Free drinks.

[Jake Hofer]

Come on. We sitting with all the celebrities. I'm third roll. Like, Chuck don't know me from a grain of salt, bro. We are a basketball podcast, y'.

[DJ Wells]

All. And we are in every cameo of WWE shot.

[Jake Hofer]

I want the world to know. Haven't been on the floor to no NBA game.

[DJ Wells]

We ain't been to a Big Three yet. We had to sit they the fifth row at the Big Three. I had to go search for y'. All. I like, yeah, I'm in the game. Where my at?

[Jake Hofer]

That's actually a fact.

[DJ Wells]

Exactly. This is. No, I'm in the game. Like what a guy is at my. I worked for the Pacers and we. We pay for our tickets. Yeah. Come on.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. So WWE ain't nothing like it.

[DJ Wells]

Nothing like it.

[Jake Hofer]

Ain't nothing like forever girl. Grateful.

[DJ Wells]

Now you see what's up. Disney made that play. They bought it all. All. Everything. It's damn near over for the network, basically. Yeah. In 2026, early 2026, all the pay per views, all the stuff content and stuff like that is going to be on Disney's platform. Yeah. And they charging you $30. Yeah. The network was like $12, 13, 14. So they didn't double the price. Stuff, you gotta be a part of ESPN now. Yeah. Tap in. And after, I think early 2026, all the Hulu stuff is gonna be dissolving too. Yeah. They said you got a damn near. To be a WWE fan, you gotta pay them their 500amonth. I mean, a year. Damn near 500amonth to get all the premium stuff. Almost. Damn.

[Jake Hofer]

Nah, bro, I'm for real.

[DJ Wells]

I was just reading was like something like that, or it's like 500 a year. I think it's a year year because you got the monthly. I mean, the monthly is gonna be like $30 for Jesus. ESPN. And then for the special events like WrestleMania, SummerSlam, things of that nature. Yeah, yeah. And then you gotta. It's something else they got on there because the USA Network is gonna charge you like $10 or something else. And it's interesting because they. They don't send that backdoor Peacock because Peacock had the events. Yeah. What'd it say on there right now? ESPN, the ESPN package.

[Jake Hofer]

ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN, all this stuff.

[DJ Wells]

And WWE is about 300 for that bundle for the year. Yeah, yeah. And then including. Yeah, yeah. That's just the pay per view events. So you still got to have Netflix for Monday Night Raw. Hulu gonna be integrated into Disney plus and then you still gotta have Netflix.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn. Nah, that's lit though.

[DJ Wells]

So it's like 500 a year. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

After you add all the stuff together.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah. Damn. It's funny because everybody stopped getting cable and going to these individual places and now they're more than cable. Yeah, yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

It's crazy. Locked in that. That. That's a little crazy for the fans, but people.

[DJ Wells]

People not gonna play about the entertainment, bro. Bro. 30amonth. They gonna. People gonna pay because you still get. You still gonna get ESPN and other. You know what I mean? It ain't. You're gonna get more than just wrestling, but if you ain't want the other and you just want to wrestling, you got it.

[Jake Hofer]

Now that's fire.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, man. The Monopoly is crazy, man. Some of these people is just getting everything. Disney got that bread, boy.

[Jake Hofer]

Where do y' all think rank wrestling ranks in sports?

[DJ Wells]

As far as what it fans is that.

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, I don't want to say.

[DJ Wells]

It'S not a sport, but is it considered a sport or entertainment? Entertainment.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't want to put it in competitive sports.

[DJ Wells]

It's. It's cuz. It's scripted, but it's hot. It's definitely a sport, especially in America. It's hot from. I'm saying from athleticism. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm just saying, you wrestle, but it's different. You just didn't have a script. Still put you in the headlock, jabber you up.

[DJ Wells]

That's crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn. That's a part of the sport. Jamming you up is not a hell of a move, Mike. You probably want some. But a laid you down, put his arm between your legs and it counted to three.

[DJ Wells]

The thing how they pin wrestling, how.

[Jake Hofer]

They do what they do. Hold your chest down. What do they do?

[DJ Wells]

That's like they give you cpr. How they can pin you is crazy. They don't Pin you like high school professional wrestling.

[Jake Hofer]

Like, you in, like, some type of move.

[DJ Wells]

Like you're.

[Jake Hofer]

You're being held in and some restraint. So you've been held hostage for three seconds.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I got pinned before. I got pinned before. He. He. He lost more than he was.

[Jake Hofer]

That's what I'm trying to.

[DJ Wells]

Wait a second. What's your record, dog?

[Jake Hofer]

I'm trying to. Goddamn.

[DJ Wells]

We didn't have that many. We didn't have that many.

[Jake Hofer]

I was like. I was like eight and six or something like that.

[DJ Wells]

Eight losses, six wins.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. So this talking, like, I mean, I got PED before they got peed a lot. I only got PE twice. Like, you lose by points.

[DJ Wells]

Points.

[Jake Hofer]

So a did some just way better moves than you in your matches. I was out of my weight class that.

[DJ Wells]

I got an excuse for everything. You be like, I used to do a man up. He. Like, my hands are slippery right now. We got an excuse for everything that.

[Jake Hofer]

Might played up in wrestling. I weigh like 115. Wrestling, like 147. Like, what was it doing?

[DJ Wells]

Push. Why you sure you fit your uniform, bro? It's a 147, bro. Bro, you lost every time. No, no, I didn't wrestle that every time. Oh, how about the same? Bro, you. You lost, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

Playing up in wrestling, bro. Pops out of pocket.

[DJ Wells]

Can you reclassify wrestling?

[Jake Hofer]

It's a team sport, so they add.

[DJ Wells]

All the points together.

[Jake Hofer]

So you don't want to forfeit it.

[DJ Wells]

You don't want to forfeit. You don't get the points. You don't get no points. That's just like Bernie Mac episode. Joe was so small, they had nobody in his weight class. He all back one round. I learned.

[Jake Hofer]

I learned something about this Mike every day, boy.

[DJ Wells]

But speaking of fans, like, I think they got the most loyal fans. Oh, yeah. Their. Their consumer base is locked in. Whatever it is, whatever new star it is. All right, this who we with.

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, we didn't been to three events. Granted, they was major events, but that is a little different, bro. I didn't been to a football game before. I've been to a basket game, and it's.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, it's only certain teams that got loyal fans. Like in basketball, if you bad. Yeah. Nobody's coming to the games besides Chicago, New York. Yeah. Louisiana. Big markets like that, if you. In football, a lot of people show up to the games, but it's only one time a week, so it's like a thing to do. Like, we know we're gonna go to the game and it's not a home game every week, so you might only get it every other week. Week wrestling is in a different city every night and they sell it out. Yeah, we might not be in your city for six months, so I'm pulling up.

[Jake Hofer]

The fan. Engagement is just different too though, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Look at the weekend they had, bro. You had Thursday, then you had Friday, then you had the entire weekend, and then they double back with Raw Monday cracking. They had Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Raw. Four days in New York. High capacity, bro. People spending chicken. Also though, everybody got on merch.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. Nothing mess with wrestling, bro.

[DJ Wells]

That is crazy for sure, man. Awesome, man. Shout out to jvp, man. Shout out to Budel, man. That was fun going up there and rock with them. Be here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's going crazy, my boy.

[Jake Hofer]

That was. Felt like that would probably been a breakout game. Yeah, my phone been going crazy. We was just up there, you know, we just doing our thing.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, you went platinum again.

[Jake Hofer]

I just.

[DJ Wells]

God damn it.

[Jake Hofer]

Be in.

[DJ Wells]

You did it again.

[Jake Hofer]

I didn't know how. Like, I know how Big Joe Bu's podcast is for sure, but there's just so many new people put eyes on. I mean, that show put so many new eyes on us. So now that was. That was lit, man.

[DJ Wells]

Where do y' all be seeing this?

[Jake Hofer]

My dms, bro. I engage with people, so I hate notifications like that. So, I mean, I. My get a little crazy for sure. I know yours is way worse than mine, but I. I talk to none of that. Yeah, I talk to majority of the people though.

[DJ Wells]

Like if you. If you DM me, it's probably you. You had to say something that it just randomly. I don't know how you got through, but I seen it and I just. You must say something so crazy that made me want to respond. I think they starting to catch on that you don't see it. So they just sent extra to me and him, so especially on Twitter. I don't see.

[Jake Hofer]

I. I like talking to everybody, cuz I mean, to me, I. You never know who you'll meet, who you'll bump into. So I like building relationships with certain people, not everybody. Cause I can tell. So not saying some of y' all ain't important, but when y' all get to start sending a shit ton of reels, I hate that.

[Az Fudd]

Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as the people's Princess. But now you're also gonna know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find Out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life life as I try to balance it all from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really futt around and find Out. Listen to Phud around and Find Out Out a production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan and me, Dana Schwarzenegger. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Wells]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind this scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Az Fudd]

We need veteran players and we need.

[DJ Wells]

Young players like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan.

[Az Fudd]

Of long term success needs to be defined.

[DJ Wells]

We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down. I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Az Fudd]

I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know what? Noah de Barrasso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything, Sheesh. Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[DJ Wells]

You kidding me?

[Az Fudd]

Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

Because like you answered some, you answer somebody DMs and it'd be cool. But I appreciate you bro. Love like start hitting you with reals every day now you locked in bro.

[DJ Wells]

You responded you gang now.

[Jake Hofer]

But I, you know I, I with the, you know, interaction with the supporters.

[DJ Wells]

I might the only time I really interact with people is like on the post.

[Jake Hofer]

Especially Twitter. Twitter is love we talk about all the time. But that is some of the top cheer people, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I don't got Twitter.

[Jake Hofer]

You should take a day for real. I'm just to go through some.

[DJ Wells]

I comment on the post if we stream.

[Jake Hofer]

If you stream. I feel like you should go through your DMS one day and just pick like 20 or 30 of them, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Who is that? Bruce or Caitlyn? What the real Caitlyn.

[Jake Hofer]

I clicked on the wrong tab. My bad.

[DJ Wells]

I won't really be be I don't like if some across I come across stuff that be like about us sometimes when I'm scrolling Instagram and then I comment on it. Like if somebody make a random video about us, like I'll be like this fried. And then when people start writing under my oh, that's the Worst. That's when I do. Yeah. Now I'm out. Yeah. Like that big three. When I wrote that little under there and people started, I was like, yeah, I'm probably gonna delete this after that. Damn. You responded what you said earlier underneath the. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm. I fire back.

[Jake Hofer]

I thought you was talk.

[DJ Wells]

Okay, n. I fire back. I'll let you know. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

That's why her son's like, damn, bro.

[DJ Wells]

He said, what do you say me for if I get a dm, I'm gonna call you. You DM me and say something crazy. I'm gonna cut you out. Yeah, you do me. Okay. That's what I do. Last week, he says, shut up.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, I don't be on that.

[DJ Wells]

I don't like. I niggas know if y' all know me, y' all know I don't like people. So, like, I'll rock with y' all if y' all cool. But, like, I don't really like people like that. So, yeah, don't be under. Be on no weird shit. That's all. And, like, y' all know me. I didn't talk forever, so in real life, I don't really talk.

[Jake Hofer]

You engage with the people DJ on.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. I fuck with Twitter.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

I mean, you know, you got some weirdos. You got some people gonna hate both of them. It's mostly love, bro. It's what you sign up for. Like, we. We have a public platform. Everybody got opinion about stuff. You can't take it too personally. Oh, I don't take none of it personally. I have fun. Oh, I know you don't give a damn. I have fun. Fun like, it's awful. I let them chime in, do whatever y' all do. Yeah, they you. You say something about Kobe, I'm gonna kill you. I'll be like, too far. Them different, bro. This is where it goes too far. But, yeah, I'm go ahead and let y' all have it.

[Jake Hofer]

But I will say, stop texting me or DMing me and saying, man, show Jeff this, man. Team this second. I get so many of them, man, show Jeff this. He ain't answering his deal.

[DJ Wells]

I swear.

[Jake Hofer]

That's a fact, bro. I. I hate that. I hate that.

[DJ Wells]

I swear, bro. Y' all get so y' all come in here, be like, oh, our going crazy. I swear to God, this is not being funny. I never knew. I never see that. Like, y' all talk about Joe, but. And I'm like, no.

[Jake Hofer]

Cause me And DJ Twitter, though.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I'm like, what happened? Like, they, like, being like, y' all saying, be hen got his own page. I'm like, where that at? I seen the. Today. I seen the Sentel thing. Like the 520 centel. Yeah, I was laughing at that. That one. I posted one a day. I didn't know you. I don't remember saying that. Or you saying.

[Jake Hofer]

You said, I just posted on Instagram, on Twitter. I got one on Instagram and on Tick Tock.

[DJ Wells]

Like, I don't be seeing none of that. But I seen something today. I came past it, and it was like 520. What the. Yeah, and you said something that was funny.

[Jake Hofer]

The one. The one about me, see, Tik Tok.

[DJ Wells]

Is, oh, yeah, that looks like Nardo Wick when he said, y' all just look like N Wick, bro. I was rolling when I came across that, bro. I said, yeah, this fun. Funny. No, I even remember that.

[Jake Hofer]

The one about me saying the dildos throwing them at the TV just went crazy today too. And then Malcolm. They clipping Malcolm doing that stupid ass over there.

[DJ Wells]

But B here said, check his nose. Everybody say on that game, see, that's.

[Jake Hofer]

That's on Instagram, though.

[DJ Wells]

I gotta look it up. Yeah. Cause sometimes y' all be sending me the things to collab, and I don't collab all the time. Can we talk about.

[Jake Hofer]

Why did M jump off the table, though?

[DJ Wells]

He off that cat.

[Jake Hofer]

What? So what did he jump off of? The streaming? He stood on the table.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, I wish it would have broke and jumped off.

[Jake Hofer]

Place. Place the box and everything.

[DJ Wells]

My boy about to go viral a different way. Like what? Like what was going through your mind where your mic came out here.

[Jake Hofer]

Come on, man. Come on.

[DJ Wells]

Come sit down. What was you going through your mind, bro? Lord Jesus.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, bro. This is family.

[DJ Wells]

See, he off that cane. Off that cane. He just crawled. What was going through your mind? So I was like, I'm about to be John Cena today. So I came in with the belt, had the theme song, and Chat was rolling. I said, you know what? I just left SummerSlam. I'm about to go top rope. You supposed to go. It's supposed to be a girl out of there.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, the real finish. Make her lay on the box.

[DJ Wells]

Supposed to break. Supposed to break the table. That was the aftermath.

[Jake Hofer]

That was the.

[DJ Wells]

It was the prelim. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

You know, Malcolm put one of the BBWs on that box, ain't it? Went to the ground.

[DJ Wells]

BBW, you know, listen, Chat always get the variety pack. They ain't always good.

[Jake Hofer]

It's always a black jelly bean in that.

[DJ Wells]

What's wrong with black jelly beans? Hey, man, everything. For sure, man. We had to work, man. But shout out to M, man. Happy belated, my dog.

[Jake Hofer]

N. For sure.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. My boy turned 29. Damn. He act like it.

[Jake Hofer]

No, about 22. I remember I was 22, boy. Enjoy.

[DJ Wells]

What a time. I don't even remember being 22.

[Jake Hofer]

All right.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know what I did at 22. Great year for sure.

[Jake Hofer]

Remember you remember some fry you did?

[DJ Wells]

I mean, I know what I was doing at 22. I'm saying I can't remember. Like my party. Yeah, yeah. I don't know that.

[Jake Hofer]

Got to celebrate his in New York.

[DJ Wells]

It's all running together.

[Jake Hofer]

Hey, eating at a five star restaurant. And yeah, he lived 20, 22. A little different from out.

[DJ Wells]

That's what's up the right way. All right, man, before we get out here, let's have some drinks. Finally.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, yeah, Barbie, she been.

[DJ Wells]

She came to work.

[Jake Hofer]

Rasta.

[Az Fudd]

You want to call me Roster.

[DJ Wells]

Where you been at, Barbie?

[Jake Hofer]

How you living? Y' all got on one today, baby.

[Az Fudd]

Hold on, I got you. Look, it's not even full right on.

[Jake Hofer]

You know your hand be shaking.

[Az Fudd]

My hand not be shaking.

[DJ Wells]

Hand be shaking. What? What she. Where you at, Barbie? Today, where you been?

[Az Fudd]

Oh, I took my baby to. I told you, I took my baby to Disney.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, y' all went to Disney World. Where y' all go? Like, what part? What part?

[Az Fudd]

We went to Magic Kingdom.

[DJ Wells]

How was that?

[Az Fudd]

It was amazing. We had a great time.

[Jake Hofer]

Well, I know that was expensive.

[DJ Wells]

How old am I, son?

[Az Fudd]

He's three. Yeah, he called everything drink.

[Jake Hofer]

Gonna get me pulled over.

[DJ Wells]

All right, what we got today, Barbie?

[Az Fudd]

We have a peach and. And pineapple. What's so funny?

[DJ Wells]

What's wrong about.

[Jake Hofer]

Nothing. Go ahead and break it down.

[DJ Wells]

Say, about the rko.

[Jake Hofer]

What'S in this drink bar?

[Az Fudd]

It's peach and pineapple and tequila. I was late, so I couldn't do too much.

[Jake Hofer]

So grand Caramino Repo.

[Az Fudd]

Of course. Of course.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, man. Shout out to the rko.

[Jake Hofer]

What was the best thing y did in Magic Kingdom?

[Az Fudd]

The best thing would have to have been. The Peter Pan ride was so lit. I really liked it. Yeah, it was Peter Pan. And it was like, huh? Can you.

[DJ Wells]

Go ahead.

[Jake Hofer]

Chill, bro. Pj out of pocket.

[Az Fudd]

The Peter Pan ride. And it was just like. You see that the track is about to stop, and then it gets dark, and then you're up in the air flying like. It was so Dope. They had some really dope rides. And he could ride a lot and then like the fireworks and stuff. Of course.

[Jake Hofer]

Expensive.

[Az Fudd]

Not really. I don't feel like it was too bad.

[DJ Wells]

Like did he like riding the rides?

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, he did. Which the surprising cuz he's a crybaby. But he was like he had the time of his life.

[Jake Hofer]

So if a single mom want to take her kid to Magic Kingdom, how much does she have to have available in her account? How much does that cost?

[DJ Wells]

Well, a buddy pay for it. She.

[Az Fudd]

I wish nobody. I wish nobody paid for it. I want my best friend. So we kind of like split everything as far as like you know, where we stayed in the car and stuff.

[Jake Hofer]

She took all her kids too.

[Az Fudd]

She only got two. All her kids. Crazy. Her kids are 5 and 10.

[DJ Wells]

Oh damn. They ain't enjoy the 10 year olds, man.

[Az Fudd]

No, he had a good time. They got on roller coasters and stuff.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, Magic Kingdom dude got roller coasters. They got on the. What's the one? Space Mountain.

[Az Fudd]

Space Mountain and Tron. You know that's like the motorcycle that you ride on the.

[Jake Hofer]

I heard about that one.

[Az Fudd]

I stayed with the babies. Why they did that?

[DJ Wells]

Oh yeah. Space mouth.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm scared of R. I was just.

[Az Fudd]

Letting them, you know, enjoy theyself.

[DJ Wells]

Now listen, I know you a Wayne fan. How you feel about all the droughts being on on streaming services now?

[Az Fudd]

So excited. I actually downloaded. Well not downloaded, paid for Apple music. Y' all know I be on Pandora.

[DJ Wells]

So with the. Wait. Talking about you with the commercial.

[Az Fudd]

I am. I like it. Giving me a variety of songs. Cuz I really don't know. You know Malcolm. I mean Mike, you judging.

[DJ Wells]

I am. Why are you paying? Why ad free? You on Pandora. At least you can do this. You know what I'm saying?

[Jake Hofer]

I have to deal with a Pandora is TR commercial.

[Az Fudd]

I like to get the mixture of music because I don't really know what to listen to.

[DJ Wells]

I kind of rock with Pandora.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, I like that.

[DJ Wells]

Pandora is fire. Just get the one without the ass. You know what I'm saying?

[Az Fudd]

You don't have to drive without the ads. It's only $5.

[Jake Hofer]

So why don't you have it without the ads?

[Az Fudd]

I didn't say I didn't.

[Jake Hofer]

I say we can cover that. We give you $60 for the year.

[Az Fudd]

Thank you.

[Jake Hofer]

I ain't about nine.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, there we go.

[DJ Wells]

You respect who.

[Az Fudd]

Who you Mike.

[Jake Hofer]

Mike could get it to you.

[Az Fudd]

I'm at the ripping shirt Got y'.

[DJ Wells]

All got Apple music. Music.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, you got Apple music for sure.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, see, look.

[Jake Hofer]

No, I got.

[DJ Wells]

I got title, too. You got title? I got title.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't think Dedication 2 is on there, though. I don't like. Cuz Dedication is not it. That mixtape is. I'm Sleep.

[DJ Wells]

Dedic. Dedication two is on there. It's just not under your name.

[Jake Hofer]

Dedication. The first one. I'm Sleep.

[DJ Wells]

You don't like the first dedication?

[Jake Hofer]

No.

[DJ Wells]

Damn. I. It's not my favorite, but I'm not mad at it at all. Dedication 2 is clearly disappearing 1. Yeah, but the drops on there. Is that so?

[Jake Hofer]

What? The aliases. Dedication to under.

[DJ Wells]

I forgot. It's weird, cuz you got to say.

[Jake Hofer]

That to me, bro. Cuz that dedication, that ain't. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Dedication. Well, it was. It was. Okay.

[Az Fudd]

What was on your playlist when you were in the league?

[DJ Wells]

Like, before games Before. I'm a different type of. I listen to Start Shaking His Head. Phil Collins, the real one. Yeah. I listen to Dipset. I used to play. I really mean it all the time. Then I randomly have, like, Maroon 5. I had some shit. I had all types of.

[Jake Hofer]

You had Beano on there, too?

[DJ Wells]

I had Beano shout out to Bino.

[Jake Hofer]

He put niggas on Beano.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I had Beano. I used to play. I used to play Debo. I played everybody, man. I had a little bit of mixture, and then I used to get on the ice Ox.

[Jake Hofer]

Wow.

[DJ Wells]

And turn the music up loud as. And turn like Jeezy on TI. Whoever was the hottest rapper at that time just to piss Kyle Corver off.

[Jake Hofer]

Wow. Cal wasn't tapped in.

[DJ Wells]

He had this thing, like, don't up how people prepare for games. Oh. And he was like, some people don't like music. Some people don't like loud noises. Some people like to focus, read a book or whatever.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

And his thing was like, if you want to listen to music, get your own headphones, phones, respect. So the thing I would do to piss him off. I've been here the longest. I turn that up to a hundred. Boom. With like five. We had, like five minutes to go before we had to go out there. I turn that on loud as. He would be so mad.

[Jake Hofer]

Wow, bro, you was really a. I.

[DJ Wells]

Always been like that. But we go play good, and I push him and. And he'd be like, he'll run out there. Like, then we have a good game. So when we started winning and having good games, he got like, turn the music on. Like, come on.

[Jake Hofer]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Wells]

Like, turn the on, man. Come on, let's go.

[Jake Hofer]

That was that one year y' all had 2015.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. He was looking forward to that music. I ain't turn that on. It's like, what's up?

[Jake Hofer]

Nah, for sure. What's on?

[DJ Wells]

If we ain't playing Uno, like on.

[Jake Hofer]

A plane ride, that crazy ass UNO you play?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, that's where it started on the plane. Yeah, you said that. I brought some cards and we started playing uno and we was winning, and one time we lost and was mad, and I was like, I ain't pull the Uno cards out. We was riding. Coach Bud came up there. I was like, what the is going on? I'm like, damn, somebody did something. It's like not playing UNO today. And he was like, every time, man, every time we start playing uno. And it was like, if you ain't playing uno, you was a hoe. Like, if you had an attitude today, you played bad. Like, would just talk crazy. Easy to. You have an attitude. You know, if you ain't get a. You have a good game or you ain't playing that much, and you usually play with us and you ain't play people. Oh, he in his feelings, he's sad. He said it's funny.

[Az Fudd]

What crazy rules.

[DJ Wells]

Did you have UNO explain it to you?

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, that's off camera.

[Az Fudd]

Okay.

[DJ Wells]

Gotta tap in for sure. Whatever. While you're here, I want to ask y' all this question. It's been back and forth this last week between DEZ Bryant and Nicki Minaj, you know, a piece of that situation. We gonna get into it so too much. But the funny part was Nikki was just like, I got 10 M's. My husband scrape you? Damn. And then de Brad was just like, no respect to that, but go get that 10M's number. Be his ass. And so being for both sides of the spectrum with you being here as a lady, fellas, how y' all feel if y' all wake up and y' all got to do something for y' all girl? Cuz a lot of have been that situation that girls have put them in that they weren't supposed to be in. And as a woman put a in that situation, now he gotta go fight an NFL athlete. It's crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, for 10 and 10m, I'm risk it all. You ain't got nothing to lose. That's that.

[DJ Wells]

I'm.

[Jake Hofer]

It.

[DJ Wells]

I'm. Hold on. So she said, I got 10 M's at my man to beat you up. Yeah. Oh, she made the offer. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, a $10 million pot is crazy.

[DJ Wells]

To a ex NFL player. How, how? Also I don't really care about is Nicki Minaj.

[Az Fudd]

He from New York.

[DJ Wells]

He a boxer or something. N I gangster from New York.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, how tall is he, Minnie? You probably just rare. You probably five' eight.

[DJ Wells]

Five' eight.

[Az Fudd]

You think he five eight?

[DJ Wells]

I mean, even if he's six foot, Dez Bryant is what, six, four, six, five, 240.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn. There's Brian that big.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, that's Brian. He a big wide receiver, though.

[Jake Hofer]

I didn't know he was six' five, bro. That's huge.

[Az Fudd]

Papa bear daddy.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn. Y' all sure d Brian that big, bro?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he About 6, 3, 2, 2, 30.

[Jake Hofer]

At least 65. Damn near you damn near Randy Mo.

[DJ Wells]

I think he about 63. 63, 62 what? I know at least 225. 230. I just. Boyfriend must be about 6 foot 230, too.

[Jake Hofer]

That. That's how big like she always got me in some.

[Az Fudd]

But he be. He really be on that like, he do. He be on there. He was trying to fight off offset. He from New York. Just crazy.

[DJ Wells]

Have you ever put a in that situation? Like defend my honor?

[Az Fudd]

No, I don't play that kind of. People are crazy and I don't want nothing to happen to nobody.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm dealing Nikki not.

[DJ Wells]

They got a Nikki only like 5 3. He look like he ain't that much.

[Jake Hofer]

Taller than n. I told y like five. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

So what happens if your man, you know what I'm saying, try to defend your honor and take the L. You got to leave him or I'm shooting.

[Az Fudd]

What? Okay, he going to take a L in of front of me.

[Jake Hofer]

No, for 10ms, you. You better go to jail.

[Az Fudd]

Oh, that's different. For 10ms, like. But no, that's not. I don't regular. I'm not letting my get beat up. I would shoot somebody.

[Jake Hofer]

That's crazy, Barbie. You better kill him.

[Az Fudd]

I will.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. She probably just was talking like.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, you know, she crazy. She's really up.

[Jake Hofer]

You going have to line that up, though.

[DJ Wells]

Just having to wake up and realize you got to fight NFL players.

[Jake Hofer]

You going have to line that. I'm nothing.

[Az Fudd]

I was trying to follow it. I don't understand why they into it.

[DJ Wells]

It's a lot of stuff that don't mean much to us. It's some Rock Nation stuff. It ain't got nothing to do with us.

[Az Fudd]

What does it have to do with the NFL player, though?

[DJ Wells]

Well, he was a part of Roc.

[Jake Hofer]

Nation sports, so did speak his mind, though. That's why I with him. He don't care.

[DJ Wells]

He does.

[Jake Hofer]

He definitely.

[DJ Wells]

He gets on Twitter. I got. I gotta work. I gotta get on the Internet more. I have no clue about none of this stuff.

[Jake Hofer]

170, by the way.

[DJ Wells]

5:10, tough.

[Jake Hofer]

When D. Brown was on, what was Brandon Marshall on them show called? That's when I knew he was.

[DJ Wells]

I'm an athlete.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, he. Oh, yeah. My boy vocal.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

He speak his mind. That's a fire show.

[DJ Wells]

The only thing I'll be watching is on the Internet is like. I'll be watching random Vlad.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, that's dark. Y' all gotta see Drew streaming now. That funny.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, he a streamer now. And the there could have been Nike merch is crazy. Crazy. He's going crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

Bro. Yes.

[DJ Wells]

Hilarious, man.

[Jake Hofer]

His baby mama, the fake baby mama, the girl that won the show, man, that is. It's an hour, bro. Swear to God, you going to be laughing the whole time.

[DJ Wells]

Damn. I ain't hip to Y. Got to start sending in the chat, bro.

[Az Fudd]

We still probably wouldn't watch it. My friend send me all kind of. I be. I watch the clip and that's it.

[DJ Wells]

Watch. If they send it to me.

[Jake Hofer]

What you be watching, Bo?

[Az Fudd]

No, nothing. I don't be watching. I just started watching the Hunting Wives on Netflix. I like.

[DJ Wells]

I watched that.

[Az Fudd]

It's good.

[Jake Hofer]

I like free.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, that was freaky. I like that.

[DJ Wells]

She was freaky.

[Jake Hofer]

What's that about? Hunting wives.

[DJ Wells]

Hunting what?

[Az Fudd]

Hunting wives.

[DJ Wells]

Hunting wives.

[Az Fudd]

Some Texas white girls.

[DJ Wells]

Shorty be. Get on. Yeah, she be getting on the girls or.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, look at him.

[Az Fudd]

It's lit.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, and they start killing people.

[Az Fudd]

Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find out. I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv. You may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fut around and find out Listen to Fut around and Find Out a production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II when they pulled off what was up either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Ern Malley. In an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial, the Ern Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on Hoax, a new podcast hosted by by me, Lizzie Logan and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, Hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history, from forged artworks to the original fake news. To try and answer why we believe, listen to hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Wells]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Az Fudd]

We need veteran players and we need young players like you're building a team.

[DJ Wells]

From scratch and so the succession plan.

[Az Fudd]

Of long term success needs to be defined.

[Jake Hofer]

We need to embrace this community.

[DJ Wells]

When I was 13, my my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Az Fudd]

Get fired up y'.

[Jake Hofer]

All.

[Az Fudd]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, Co hosting a podcast with her fiance sue, bird watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro pro athlete? The final. The final and the locker room. I really, really like you just you can't replicate. You can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar Az Foot. I mean, seriously, y', all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happen around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, damn.

[DJ Wells]

One of them got out of line. Oh, this is the actual show.

[Jake Hofer]

It ain't like reality show.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, this is a real.

[Az Fudd]

I can't do reality tv. I feel like my brain cells are dying when I watch that. Like, I don't watch baddies none of that.

[DJ Wells]

I love reality tv. It's hilarious.

[Jake Hofer]

If it ain't loving hip hop, I ain't.

[Az Fudd]

When I was younger, I did love in hip hop.

[DJ Wells]

But yeah, it's crazy. When I turn my TV on, I ain't gonna lie. That stay on TV one that be the Cosby Steve Harvey.

[Jake Hofer]

I watch all YouTube. I watch podcast show on YouTube. I don't really watch TV show.

[DJ Wells]

I don't really watch podcast. If I do it be like random podcast. Like something random as hell. It don't be like the classic podcast. Like I try to watch like basketball podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

And I tend to like turn them them off. I I unless I like really entertain.

[Jake Hofer]

With the guest n like melo 700pm they've been on a crazy run. Joe and Jada been fire.

[DJ Wells]

I watch Joe and J a million.

[Jake Hofer]

Dollars worth of game. They they back to the that I I like for real tap.

[DJ Wells]

I like the one with Young Ace. I watched it.

[Jake Hofer]

I watched it.

[DJ Wells]

You.

[Jake Hofer]

You was right about everything you said about that show for sure. Yeah, I don't really TV show, but y' all need to go to the movies too, so.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I watch everything. The podcast. Yeah, he go to the movies a lot. He go more than me. I like the movies too, but the podcast I watch is like Alexis Texas podcast. It's fire though. It's wild. It's wild. But actually he guess that one get the white screen. She's a she's a star. She a podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

Alexis.

[DJ Wells]

Alexis too. Oh, I watch Alexis Texas podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't want to talk to.

[DJ Wells]

What's the dude that he had Charleston White on there?

[Jake Hofer]

Aiden Ashton?

[DJ Wells]

No, no, no, no, no. He like, he be having like real like political people on there sometime. He be had. He like indie. I ain't going to say Indy. I don't know what race he is. Yeah, he a different. But Charleston White was on his recently.

[Az Fudd]

That's be nasty.

[DJ Wells]

That's her. Okay, man, I can't. I don't know his name, but he be having all type of random people on there. He just be kind of talking about whatever's going on in the world. I'll be watching that. Yeah, I got a lot of podcasts.

[Jake Hofer]

I tell Jeff and DJ says she's pretty good.

[DJ Wells]

Put that my name is Crazy Barbie.

[Jake Hofer]

Got a Jeep. That's what she.

[Az Fudd]

I'm out of here, y'. All.

[DJ Wells]

I'mma get my me watching Joan show.

[Jake Hofer]

No, I don't watch.

[DJ Wells]

He be having some interesting on there, cuz he be having weightlifters and on there. So I'll be like, yeah, that one.

[Jake Hofer]

Way lifter y' all show me is definitely out of pocket.

[DJ Wells]

Anytime that Terence Howard is going on his show, I'm talking tapped in. Yeah, I be watching like kind of random. I don't really be watching. I watched Paul George had somebody on his show one time though, lately that was kind of interesting. Was it Baron Davis maybe?

[Jake Hofer]

The last one I watched with PG was with DeMar DeRozan. The new one they did.

[DJ Wells]

I think I watched Baron Davis.

[Az Fudd]

I like Bobby Atoff.

[DJ Wells]

Who was that?

[Az Fudd]

The little white girl.

[Jake Hofer]

That white girl, she talking about her.

[DJ Wells]

Said she left her family to pod.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, she definitely did.

[DJ Wells]

She said, I don't. I don't regret it.

[Az Fudd]

She left her husband and been with every black man, if possible.

[Jake Hofer]

That is nuts.

[DJ Wells]

The re. That's the last one I watch with BD with Paul George podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

Could you date a bodybuilder Barbie? I don't know them, boy. What's dude name that? Y' all showed me he was too strong.

[DJ Wells]

Ronnie Coleman.

[Jake Hofer]

Lord Jesus.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, they show him recently. He what, struggling walking? Yeah, he's struggling to walk. Yeah, he had a lot of back surgeries and stuff like that.

[Az Fudd]

So you can't have sex.

[DJ Wells]

So. Man, I ain't get all of that.

[Az Fudd]

I'm just saying. So more than likely I would. You can barely walk. No, I'm not saying him specifically, but a build in general. If they having all these issues and.

[Jake Hofer]

I see where you at.

[DJ Wells]

I don't see where she's at.

[Jake Hofer]

She's talking about in general. She's talking about in general. Like if you bodybuilding and that kind of like lowering yo your blood flow. Yeah, and your blood flow and all that. Yeah, cuz, you got to take steroids.

[DJ Wells]

And bro, I ain't going to lie, y'. All. I'm something, bro. I think I'm going start bodybuilding, y'. All.

[Jake Hofer]

You can't.

[DJ Wells]

You might get competitive. Nah, I ain't say that far. Okay, But I want to gain. Like I'm 212, 213. If I can get to 225.

[Jake Hofer]

You ain't gonna feel right, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Why not?

[Jake Hofer]

Cuz you're not used to being heavy. This is a different lifestyle.

[DJ Wells]

I said, muscles, you still gonna be heavy.

[Jake Hofer]

We can still see you.

[DJ Wells]

Why you ain't just walk by, weirdo. Damn, Jeff Hardy.

[Jake Hofer]

Why do you want to be so buff though, bro? You ain't gonna be able to wear.

[DJ Wells]

Why not?

[Az Fudd]

Action figure.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, we're about to get ready. Orton.

[Jake Hofer]

He saw already or pause. It was like, yeah, it's time.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, when they say he weighed 290, I said that weighed 290. You know how heavy that is?

[Jake Hofer]

He moved Good though, for 290, bro.

[DJ Wells]

It's like a. They have to be lying about his weight, bro. There's no way he weighs 290. Say 250 on here. But they probably gassed up a little bit, bro. I was like.

[Jake Hofer]

I was confused, but I'm like, he is tall. So I didn't. I wasn't doubting it. You see him in person?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. And then Paul, look at him like, Roman Reigns like that, bro. You bigger than him. Like, that's crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't think Roman. No way. Roman reigns is 230. Impossible, cuz. He's bigger than Roman Reigns.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he's. He's 2. Roman Reigns. 240. 250. He's definitely 275.

[Jake Hofer]

Cause Roman Reigns walking out. I said, yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Ah, bro, he ain't slim at all. Roman Reigns. How much?

[Jake Hofer]

They said 287.

[DJ Wells]

Roman reigns. 287. This is Google, Lord. Google Roman Reigns. I mean, dude, 300, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

300 easily, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, go tell them the rest of fake and see what happens. Yeah, 6528. Tell him his job Fake. Let's see what happened, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn, bro, you gonna look like Braun Breaker.

[DJ Wells]

Go on the official website. He's 63265. Who? Roman Reigns now.

[Jake Hofer]

That's okay.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.

[Jake Hofer]

That's definitely.

[DJ Wells]

287 is crazy. Yeah, that. Yeah, bro. That's a lot of weight, bro. I mean, I'm just trying to get.

[Jake Hofer]

What you gonna do two a days.

[DJ Wells]

Brown way like two, two 70 for sure. They say he like six 10, 69, 68, 69. They say he about 260, you know, I don't know, but I, I, I'm like, if I get the 225, that be smooth.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, that's it. Be cool.

[DJ Wells]

You ain't gonna get no more pod. This boy see chair too small. He's gonna walk back to them tapes.

[Jake Hofer]

You just gotta be careful, bro, picking up all that weight, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I got the 218 before. That's when I couldn't take my jersey off. What? Steph had to pull my jersey down.

[Jake Hofer]

You said you felt heavy though.

[DJ Wells]

Damn, I did. I was playing basketball though.

[Jake Hofer]

True. Yeah. You on Hooper F. That's true, cuz. 218, point guard, 62. You out of pocket.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. You Eric Bless.

[Jake Hofer]

He bigger than the Rock, cuz.

[DJ Wells]

The rock, it's at rock. 260.

[Jake Hofer]

Yes.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know. He six four, 260. I. The rock is what also they lying rock probably 275 down, bro. Yeah, I already made the gym. You know the Rock got a gym called Iron paradise at this crib. That's what I try to make our way from. That we be going to. That's Iron Paradise. I'm about to add some other stuff. I'm about to get od, bro. I'm about start taking quarantine.

[Jake Hofer]

That, that'll help.

[DJ Wells]

Next thing you know.

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, but you done hooping there. You might as well put the roids in you.

[DJ Wells]

It we hear it now.

[Jake Hofer]

They probably got some gluten free ones.

[Az Fudd]

Gluten free is crazy.

[DJ Wells]

The vegan roids. I'm here. It don't even matter no more.

[Jake Hofer]

Lost this.

[DJ Wells]

It don't even matter no more. Look at Barbie. F that. So, Barbie, you with a. You know, say a couple years ago, probably a little heavy. You gonna say something or. It's cool.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. How do you feel about men picking away during a relationship?

[Az Fudd]

If it look nice, it's okay, but.

[Jake Hofer]

If it look bad.

[Az Fudd]

If it look bad.

[DJ Wells]

What's bad though?

[Az Fudd]

I just seen something so ill bad built. Like.

[DJ Wells]

What's ill built?

[Az Fudd]

Ill skinny ass, legs, big ass, belly. Like, get it together. I pointed. Nobody I didn't qu. Nobody.

[DJ Wells]

I didn't take it up for you, daddy.

[Az Fudd]

People been talking cuz I said be in to slim down. They like no he haven't. You trying to get that money. I'm like, no. He literally has slim down.

[Jake Hofer]

I have, I have. Just start some. We ain't gonna nest. We go pop our instantly over here. Daddy old kind of.

[Az Fudd]

You feel the legs match.

[Jake Hofer]

I can't put on skinny jeans. Mother gonna think I got something done to my body.

[DJ Wells]

Not too fat.

[Az Fudd]

And then they wear skinny jeans and tight ass shirts.

[DJ Wells]

I'm like. So you.

[Jake Hofer]

You are weight judging basically.

[DJ Wells]

So you got to have your weight, got to be proportioned.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, like why wouldn't it be? And do something you think?

[DJ Wells]

I hate when women say that. Cuz you think a want skinny legs like in a.

[Az Fudd]

But do something about it, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Some of his genetics, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

You can't do nothing about skinny legs.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, bro, you can't do nothing about your cat.

[Az Fudd]

All right, well then you got to work on your belly. Get that belly down.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, okay. Cuz having skinny legs, I. I was blessed.

[DJ Wells]

But some on that cane, some on.

[Az Fudd]

That lean, and they need to let that go.

[Jake Hofer]

Now you might need to get on that cane. If you got skinny legs and a big upper body that can slim you down. Oh, Zim could never. Two weeks on the cane. You be back, right?

[DJ Wells]

Two weeks. That O. You see what that o. We know what that that o.

[Jake Hofer]

That o special.

[DJ Wells]

That oh different.

[Jake Hofer]

We seen a a before. After, we ain't saying nobody name but that oic a real testimony. That is official.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Oh, that oh official prescription drug. I promise you that. Oh, chop you down 40.

[Jake Hofer]

I think that K though to me, I rather be on cane than those.

[DJ Wells]

Epic that can do that.

[Jake Hofer]

That energy for real, bro. I feel like that Kane just you a slim down and then you probably thrash some Cuz that energy I be thinking about like. I ain't going to say his name, but it's an entertainer. He one of the biggest in the world. And I feel like he take a. Take a bump every time he gets on stage too.

[DJ Wells]

That's his pre workout. Yes, bro, we be that hype genuine.

[Jake Hofer]

We not. We not.

[Az Fudd]

Genuine is crazy.

[DJ Wells]

Come out the casket.

[Jake Hofer]

He sure hit the yacht eight stumped on Gene Wise. K cuz that he. He be about ready to fall off this day.

[DJ Wells]

Say he got the remix for sure that start. No, no, you the one that came right now. Who? Anthony Hilberon. Did y' all see him?

[Jake Hofer]

Oh my God.

[DJ Wells]

That's why Charlene ain't called back.

[Az Fudd]

Wait, what he doing?

[DJ Wells]

You got to tap in, boy. This why Charlene left right here.

[Az Fudd]

Hey, bro, I have to say.

[DJ Wells]

These Old getting out of pocket like that. Can't be trusted, bro. He might do anything.

[Az Fudd]

I thought he was a smooth dude.

[DJ Wells]

But I don't know. They got him on their freestyle looking crazy. When I say freestyle, I'm talking about. No, no, it wasn't nothing.

[Jake Hofer]

I gotta see Maxwell with the braids.

[DJ Wells]

I seen that Maxwell tweaking. It's cool. Crazy. This was all in a row I was doing. It was Maxwell Anthony Hamilton Jr. I like. Damn. What's going on?

[Jake Hofer]

Ron Osley sitting in that chair he tweaked on stage. Smokey Robinson. He's still at the 720 deal.

[DJ Wells]

Smokey still performing. Boy, he never got that motel contract like this.

[Az Fudd]

Like, please sit down.

[DJ Wells]

This one. You got to go get the door. When you hear something, draw stuff.

[Jake Hofer]

Ankles and you walk the door.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, Smokey does.

[Jake Hofer]

It's time to wax museum Smokey. For sure.

[DJ Wells]

He up next. He up next, bro. Oh, yeah. Coming soon for sure. He on deck. Having a release date. It's crazy. He on deck for what? That upper room.

[Jake Hofer]

The room you should not be for performing in 90, bro. No way, bro.

[DJ Wells]

That rent still do, bro. I hope I can be performing at 95. I hope a still book us for a podcast when we not go there talk that. Y' all talk.

[Jake Hofer]

We sitting down talking, bro. We ain't up there trying to do this.

[DJ Wells]

My eyes probably gonna be closed, you know, these big closed. It's over.

[Az Fudd]

He 85. Is that what that say?

[DJ Wells]

Smoking 80.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Room, yes.

[Jake Hofer]

The temptation. He was around for all of that smoking.

[DJ Wells]

That smok, yo, that was a hit.

[Jake Hofer]

That's all.

[DJ Wells]

With a lot of sights.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, you la. That's one of the.

[DJ Wells]

That's what they.

[Jake Hofer]

Music.

[DJ Wells]

Me.

[Az Fudd]

Up.

[Jake Hofer]

That's a lot of girls favorite category, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Smoking that smoke.

[Jake Hofer]

What was the song?

[DJ Wells]

We were just talking. We just talking about somebody had a song that was. That was kind of like that. Never mind. I'm just gonna keep it to myself.

[Jake Hofer]

Respect, man. Watch what you want to watch me smoking that smoke.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to Motown, man. Give us. Call it Motown. Give us some of Motown, man. Motown time. Give us some more time. Hey, everybody. That label got allegations, man. Including Smokey. It's crazy, too. That label crazy. I want to see a documentary about that from start to finish. We've seen it. It's all ended bad. None of those groups ever excel.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't. But yeah. I don't think the Temptations had no smut, though. They just fr.

[DJ Wells]

You say what?

[Jake Hofer]

They was just drunks and.

[DJ Wells]

And on their cane Bro, they just was doing. No, they was getting finesse. Yeah, they weren't doing bad.

[Jake Hofer]

They were doing no crazy, bro.

[DJ Wells]

No Motown. Hey, I sent y' all something about Michael Jackson and the family. Oh, that's the wildest I ever heard.

[Jake Hofer]

Tito. No. Was it Tito?

[DJ Wells]

It's Randy. Randy.

[Jake Hofer]

Randy.

[DJ Wells]

Randy and Jermaine, they got the same baby.

[Jake Hofer]

Jermaine lame as hell.

[DJ Wells]

That is crazy, bro. Bro. N bro.

[Jake Hofer]

Jermaine a piece of bro.

[DJ Wells]

You can't be asking my brother with your real brother, bro. That is crazy work. That's the crazy I ever seen on the Internet.

[Jake Hofer]

Getting. Getting your brother's baby mama pregnant is nuts, bro.

[Az Fudd]

I thought she was one of their wives too.

[DJ Wells]

N he. He end up marrying.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, Germaine end up marrying her. The girl was married though. She got married to an American for a green card.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Jake Hofer]

And Germaine, I guess. Guess what was the brother Y said was dating her first?

[DJ Wells]

Randy.

[Jake Hofer]

Randy was dating her. Randy went on tour or something while he was on tour doing his thing. Jermaine swooped her up. Yeah. Cuz she said she looked for a man who was more family oriented and was trying to lock in and you know, Randy was a wild boy. So Jermaine was like, you know.

[DJ Wells]

But she already had some kids with Randy.

[Jake Hofer]

With Randy.

[DJ Wells]

Speaking of family, I look no further. They have five together. Five in the they.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. So they.

[DJ Wells]

Randy got brother, sister, Randy got two and Jermaine got three. Oh, he had the one up and she got five. That's crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

So Jermaine was definitely like a uncle, daddy, brother, cousins.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, There ya go with this again.

[DJ Wells]

That's when the lineage just got all up right there. Do you like. Are they half. I mean, yo, your kids not gonna be messed up, cuz it's a different lady. But I'm just saying like, do you like how that work? Like you think they hang out?

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, I would if we in the same house.

[DJ Wells]

I'm talking about.

[Jake Hofer]

That's my parents problem.

[DJ Wells]

I'm saying, do you think like Randy and bro, like they cool?

[Jake Hofer]

I think Jermaine. God bless.

[DJ Wells]

Might be gone. Oh, Jermaine did.

[Jake Hofer]

Jermaine took his last breath a couple.

[Az Fudd]

He said God bless. The what?

[Jake Hofer]

The under.

[Az Fudd]

The under. Okay.

[DJ Wells]

He was the first Carlos. Bull. My boy been having that paint on since the 80s, boy. I think Jermaine did though.

[Az Fudd]

I don't think he did.

[DJ Wells]

I think Jermaine might be gone, bro.

[Az Fudd]

I don't know how he did.

[DJ Wells]

If he's not. I'm out of pocket up. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Still kid died he used to have the perm, bro. The. The heavy perm.

[DJ Wells]

I don't think he's gonna see this podcast.

[Jake Hofer]

No, he won't.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Az Fudd]

No, he won't.

[Jake Hofer]

So, my Randy Y ROL y Only the strong survive.

[DJ Wells]

Is Jer dead? Yeah.

[Az Fudd]

It might take it forever to look it up.

[Jake Hofer]

I mean, they're not really telling me.

[DJ Wells]

I asked a pretty simple question. Jermaine's not dead.

[Az Fudd]

If it would have been popped up.

[Jake Hofer]

If he was still alive.

[Az Fudd]

He's still alive.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Az Fudd]

I didn't think he died, man.

[DJ Wells]

One of them Jackson sweating the other day, man.

[Jake Hofer]

Which Jackson?

[DJ Wells]

Brother Tino Jackson died. Damn. Tito. No, he alive.

[Jake Hofer]

My bad.

[DJ Wells]

He 71. I said, Jermaine ain't dead. That hairline died in the 60s, so deal.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, my. Tito died in 2024.

[DJ Wells]

There we go. Tito.

[Jake Hofer]

That was God bless the under.

[DJ Wells]

Jermaine might see this podcast. Let's talk about it. R. Randy ain't dead. It either.

[Jake Hofer]

N. Rennie definitely still kick. Michael and Tito are the only Jackson that's dead. Okay.

[DJ Wells]

Damn. Two. Two goats.

[Jake Hofer]

How could you do your brother like that, though, bro?

[DJ Wells]

She ain't that back. Doing. Your brother is crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

When he tour on tour, you swoop in like that, bro, and y' all are the Jackson 5.

[DJ Wells]

That's grimy.

[Jake Hofer]

That be my thing. Like, y' all have access to any and every woman.

[DJ Wells]

Even her was like, God damn. She.

[Az Fudd]

I'm g. Say, let's see her, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I got to slide one time. He probably was like, nah, bro. That's my. You can do it, bro. The fact that he swooped in and then married her is crazy. He said, no, I got. But he probably said, bro, I got to.

[Jake Hofer]

One time, cuz Randy was married to her. He just was dropping the gems in her.

[DJ Wells]

He probably was. I got to. He probably like, nah, bro. That my baby. M. We ain't going to do that one. He was like, damn. For real?

[Jake Hofer]

I don't think I. I like how you trying to plot it. That ain't how it went. Randy went on tour. He said, what you doing?

[DJ Wells]

He came home and seen him. Why you at my house?

[Az Fudd]

I thought that was Wendy. Andy Williams. Hey, guys, it's Az Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist, you may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent Most Outstanding player. You may even know me as the people's princess. But now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fut around and Find out. I'll give you an inside look. At everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all, from my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the natty with my UConn Huskies, to just trying to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on tv, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to FUD around and find out. Find out. A production of iHeart Women's Sports in partnership with Unanimous Media on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine articles claim was the identity of the man who wrote the the article. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. The man who wrote Sherlock Holmes. Yes, the man who invented literature's most brilliant detective was fooled by two girls into thinking fairies were real. How did they do it? And why does it seem like so many smart people keep falling for outlandish tricks? These are the questions we explore in Hope Hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood, and me, Lizzy Logan. Every episode we'll explore one of the most audacious and ambitious tricks in history, from the fake Shakespeares to balloon boys and try to answer the question of why we believe what we believe. Listen to hoax on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Wells]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved. San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Az Fudd]

We need veteran players and we need young players.

[DJ Wells]

Like you're building a team from scratch and so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile. Pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Az Fudd]

Podcasts. I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast, and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now, you know with Noah de Barrasso.

[DJ Wells]

Is a show about influence.

[Az Fudd]

Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen X Alpha mated when I'm watching everything.

[Jake Hofer]

Sheesh.

[Az Fudd]

Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.

[DJ Wells]

You kidding me?

[Az Fudd]

Politics is wild, and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. That's not ugly, but that picture look.

[Jake Hofer]

She look cool right there. Spanish thing.

[Az Fudd]

But you know how many Spanish things is on tour or anywhere like you and Jackson found.

[DJ Wells]

He could have found.

[Az Fudd]

It's not that.

[DJ Wells]

That's nasty work.

[Az Fudd]

That's up.

[DJ Wells]

When I seen that, I thought that was pretty crazy, though.

[Jake Hofer]

She up, too. I really, like, watched that whole thing and was up behind that.

[DJ Wells]

Well, that's pretty wild.

[Jake Hofer]

They had a terrible. The Jackson just had a terrible life, bro.

[DJ Wells]

No, they had one of the best lives.

[Az Fudd]

They had one of the best lives.

[Jake Hofer]

What? They grew up like Little House on the Prairie, bro.

[DJ Wells]

That's how we all grew up.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, you did. Don't stick on my house. I was blessed.

[DJ Wells]

You got 12 brothers and sisters.

[Jake Hofer]

I know, but I'm the youngest. I did not live with five people. You live with homeless people, kids, all this.

[DJ Wells]

You live with homeless people? Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

You foster families. And I didn't live with that weak ass. My daddy would never. Hell, no.

[DJ Wells]

Don't care about the people.

[Jake Hofer]

I do. I love for the people. But I'm talking about my upbringing. We was not bringing no strangers on 40th Street. No strangers in the neighborhood. Y' all was housing, though. We got some room. It's already 12 in here. This talking about. Yeah, we had two bathrooms full and a half.

[DJ Wells]

We did crazy, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

So I didn't. You grew up like the Jacksons. I didn't put that spot on my family.

[Az Fudd]

That little picture. You when you was a kid, he was all nice and clean.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, he talk about, hey, listen to.

[DJ Wells]

Michael Jackson as all. He listen to his mic. MJ the goat. No SM N, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

The Jackson 5 had a hard life, though, bro.

[DJ Wells]

They had a crazy.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, bro. You saw the movie. That ain't beating the. Out of my.

[DJ Wells]

Be my ass. Not my daddy, my mama whoop my ass. Yeah, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

Cuz, you said you did, like, stay in the shower and let the water hit you.

[DJ Wells]

You.

[Jake Hofer]

I whoop your ass, too.

[DJ Wells]

First of all, I let the water.

[Jake Hofer]

You just doing.

[DJ Wells]

I let the water run so we had to go to church. I ain't say. I just let it hit me.

[Jake Hofer]

You deserve the ass whooping, bro. Mama just wasn't whooping your ass, cuz. You got Mr. Day instead, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I said left hand. It was crazy. Mike was so much better. Everybody, how are you crazy? You can never do. But I did.

[Jake Hofer]

The best player always get the worst, bro. Best always get my dad.

[DJ Wells]

My dad, he was tough on us.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. You know, I call Pops Joe Jackson, but it's. That's a joke. They really.

[DJ Wells]

He ain't whoop our ass when I.

[Jake Hofer]

Do that house in Gary where them grow up with, bro, they trying to clean it up. It's still ain't worth a corner, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I know. I roll past our old house. That ain't. It's so bad, too. I see old Ryan Cross. Man, look at this. What you think? You think you got rough? Look at this. It wasn't that bad, bro. Right there, you can see.

[Jake Hofer]

I think it was 10 people that lived in that house, y'.

[Az Fudd]

All.

[Jake Hofer]

Didn't they have like three sisters or some?

[DJ Wells]

They got some sisters.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, bro. You know, the parents.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, man.

[Jake Hofer]

Janet made it from that. Janet the goat, bro. She the only normal Jackson, bro.

[Az Fudd]

They said she had a baby by a building billionaire.

[DJ Wells]

See, she got. All she do is be married for five years and she get half a billion. Eleven of them. Damn. She ain't had to be married five years. That's why get out my hell of a contract.

[Az Fudd]

Now she got five years.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, five years. Half a billion. Yeah. You can figure it out. You can figure it out.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah, we'll make that work.

[Az Fudd]

Soon that five years hit, she was out.

[DJ Wells]

They tell you. This ain't no shade, but they tell you. You know the sisters off a thousand thousand pounds. The who? A thousand pound. Thousand pound journey. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Was it some new.

[DJ Wells]

This TV show was overweight people.

[Jake Hofer]

Somebody weigh a thousand pounds, I'mma do with her huge.

[DJ Wells]

They were sisters, bro.

[Jake Hofer]

It's a show all together, combined.

[DJ Wells]

I don't know if it's combined. I don't know.

[Az Fudd]

It was com.

[Jake Hofer]

Look at her tell the story.

[Az Fudd]

She's like, you don't know what it's like being my size.

[DJ Wells]

It's not. It's not a joke. I'm saying. He's asking a question. Y' all let me get. He laughing. He looking at the picture and laughing. And they didn't been on a journey. They don't weigh this much.

[Az Fudd]

Go to that picture with the blue shirt.

[DJ Wells]

I watch this look.

[Jake Hofer]

She slim down N. That's the. That's the. That Barbie talking about. That's how the.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah. See?

[DJ Wells]

No.

[Az Fudd]

Get your ass out my face. I'm not lifting nothing up Question.

[DJ Wells]

Fat sham. It's not fat shame. I'm just. Just saying look at her for. For affability. What I throw up. Five years.

[Jake Hofer]

Five year. Lock me. Look at her now this go stand up like the Statue of Liberty.

[Az Fudd]

No, it's not.

[DJ Wells]

Lock me in.

[Jake Hofer]

I don't even do. God bless. Love who you love, but I just never. They a white woman. For 500 million, I'mma paint that black. I ain't going to lie to you.

[DJ Wells]

Look at her.

[Az Fudd]

She got her FA on.

[DJ Wells]

She lost me.

[Az Fudd]

That's a fa. She try to shape up.

[Jake Hofer]

Damn. She look. I wonder what she look like Randy Orton.

[DJ Wells]

She turned into Chucky.

[Az Fudd]

She looks scary.

[Jake Hofer]

We gonna make it work. Work, bro. We going to make it work. $500 million, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You can't. Like it's dead, bro. You can't. It's over with.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm bro at my age right now. Yes. Yes, bro. I will return to the field in five years, bro. I told you. I would go to jail for a million. For 500 million. I would lay with this every day.

[Az Fudd]

Rub all six hours.

[DJ Wells]

What's going on, man? We here. We was on Joe B. Jo podcast. They podcast for 17 hours. So we got. We got to get people what they want, man. They listen to 17 Hours Working podcast. That was the longest podcast I ever been on my life. My be here and start snoring.

[Az Fudd]

What?

[DJ Wells]

Fell asleep, bro. When that fell asleep, I lost it, bro. That said. Oh, yeah, man. We can wrap this up though, man. We been here for a minute, but I'm trying to ny mother. That was like that.

[Jake Hofer]

We had a long day, y'.

[DJ Wells]

All. I was crying. We not used to working that long, man.

[Jake Hofer]

N for sure.

[DJ Wells]

He said, man, it ain't nothing. Yeah, man, but it's been good, bro. That like this one of the funniest moments I've seen. Why you got Chucky up, bro? Move.

[Az Fudd]

He said that's what the lady look like. Look.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, out of pocket. Real commercial. Crazy. Anything else before we get out of here? Hold on, man. How y' all feeling, man? We feeling good.

[Jake Hofer]

Feeling good, man. Barbie just drink good today.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I ain't going to lie. I drunk the whole thing for the first time.

[Az Fudd]

Barbie, you say that every time you drink the whole thing.

[DJ Wells]

This is the first time I never drink the whole thing. I. Me and D.J. literally. D.J. leave his drink every time.

[Az Fudd]

D.J. never drinks.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I literally leave half of mine. Me and DJ look at each other.

[Jake Hofer]

And be like, DJ is on a different journey. That's fine.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Dj, he don't drink no more.

[Jake Hofer]

Pouring water in his. I just realized how much alcohol we rarely drink it on. Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out to Barbie.

[Jake Hofer]

No, man. You too. We love y', all, man. How much.

[DJ Wells]

How much alcohol you think Barbie waste? A lot.

[Jake Hofer]

Oh, a lot.

[DJ Wells]

A ton. Yeah. Your drink. You got a heavy hand. You do this intervention. Yeah.

[Az Fudd]

So drink it so we don't waste it.

[DJ Wells]

We got to. We got to talk to you about your heavy. Yeah, I guess that's the point too.

[Jake Hofer]

Like, she's technically not wasting it.

[DJ Wells]

Y'. All. Technically wasting. Technically, we're. We're only here. It's a Wednesday. True. And we literally have to do in the morning. And nobody's really trying to get. We literally be just trying to sip to have a conversation.

[Jake Hofer]

We probably should start fake drinking.

[DJ Wells]

And I'm okay with that cuz I do that a lot. Anyway. Let's just start making. And they don't really have to be in there. Like, if you want to make an.

[Jake Hofer]

Exchange, I'm tapping in.

[DJ Wells]

I literally make research it on little m. Talking about today. I wanted to drink cuz Nancy had me up. But that's her name, right? Because I keep on saying Lancy and Nancy. I don't know. What is that?

[Jake Hofer]

Nancy trying to mix my bro.

[Az Fudd]

I drink right at the store.

[DJ Wells]

What's that? As though that's why you take people drink. Yeah. Shout out to boost what we got here. What is that?

[Jake Hofer]

It's an exclusive.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, got here. Where the hell we get that?

[Az Fudd]

Winning man.

[Jake Hofer]

Yeah. Winners on wheels.

[DJ Wells]

Hold on. What is that? Excuse me.

[Jake Hofer]

It said twerk for Freaky Mike. Hot dogs on the back. It does not say twerk for Freaky mic. Is this gilding?

[DJ Wells]

What is that?

[Jake Hofer]

It's a shirt a graphic designer made. What's the name? It's a pay Freaky mic on the front. But while that big ass hot dog.

[DJ Wells]

Is on the back, they say, pay for your money. We have to address on the back. That's how you get paid. Who sent you that? We have to address on the back. So Volume actually created that.

[Jake Hofer]

Dude.

[DJ Wells]

He made the. He made the logos and whatnot.

[Az Fudd]

That's dope.

[DJ Wells]

But Volume actually made it.

[Jake Hofer]

Barbie said, that's dope.

[Az Fudd]

Does the car say pay? I mean, the Wiener Mobile say pay. Freaky mic as well.

[Jake Hofer]

It does. It does.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. I would like for that logo to be taken off that vehicle. We did not authorize this nasty ass shirt. All bike shirts. Yeah. Inspired, Mike. You got your own merch. Merch. And I ain't got mine.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm gonna put the hot dog on.

[DJ Wells]

The front of the shirt. False.

[Jake Hofer]

And then.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, that would not be on the way of life at all. Hold on. How you got. I'm working for you. No, everybody wants a shirt because I respond to my text message.

[Jake Hofer]

That's my artist.

[DJ Wells]

What my shirt say I had options.

[Jake Hofer]

You didn't respond.

[DJ Wells]

No, I want mine to say, what name? Nancy. Say serviceable.

[Jake Hofer]

Serviceable.

[DJ Wells]

Put serviceable. Te. Yeah, I'm about to. I'm about to copyright that.

[Jake Hofer]

Now. That's hard, though.

[DJ Wells]

Serviceable. Yeah.

[Jake Hofer]

Now we out of here, though, y', all.

[DJ Wells]

For sure. Man Shot Club520.com Shout out to Boost. Appreciate y'. All. We'll be back. Next time. Club 520.

[Az Fudd]

The volume.

[DJ Wells]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Az Fudd]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Az Fudd]

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[Jake Hofer]

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[DJ Wells]

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[Az Fudd]

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