Club 520 - Kam Jones on Pacers NBA Draft, CRAZY high school career, Derrick White comp

Summary

Club Shay Shay Episode Summary: Cam Jones on Pacers NBA Draft, CRAZY High School Career, Derrick White Comparison

Released on July 10, 2025

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, hosts DJ Wells, Host 1, and Host 4 welcome Cam Jones, a newly drafted player for the Indiana Pacers. Cam, an emerging talent with a remarkable journey from a versatile high school athlete to the NBA, shares insights into his career, challenges, and aspirations. The conversation delves into his high school and college experiences, his drafting process, and his comparisons to established NBA players like Derrick White.

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1. Introduction and Background

DJ Wells kicks off the episode by introducing Cam Jones, highlighting his roots in Memphis and his transition to Indiana. Cam expresses his excitement about joining the Pacers and moving to a new city.

Cam Jones: "So appreciate y'all having me on, man. I'm excited to get on here." [03:42]

2. High School Career: Versatility on the Court

Cam discusses his high school basketball career, emphasizing his versatility. Initially playing center due to his height, he adapted to play as a point guard, showcasing his ability to handle the ball and make plays.

Host 4: "I heard you play center at one point, bro." [05:11]

Cam Jones: "Yeah, I played center. My team in high school, I was the tallest player on the floor." [05:14]

This adaptability was pivotal in his recruitment, allowing him to stand out and secure a spot at Marquette University despite the intense competition.

3. College Journey at Marquette

Transitioning to college basketball, Cam shares his experiences at Marquette, highlighting the coaching style of Coach Smart, who encouraged him to take charge on the court.

Cam Jones: "Coach Smart was... a player's coach. He really let us play." [08:38]

One of his standout moments was achieving a triple-double against Purdue, a team that had previously dominated them.

Cam Jones: "Probably getting a triple double against Purdue. Cause Purdue, we owed them." [13:52]

4. Draft Process and Challenges

Cam opens up about his pre-draft experiences, including overcoming a hamstring injury that sidelined him during the NBA Combine. Despite this setback, he remained positive and supportive of his peers.

Cam Jones: "I had a grade 2 hamstring strain or tear. Sat out for a few weeks." [20:39]

He also draws a parallel with Host 1's own experience with a similar injury, fostering a sense of camaraderie and mutual understanding.

5. Comparison to Derrick White

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Cam's comparison to Derrick White, an NBA player known for his versatility and playmaking skills.

Cam Jones: "I was thinking... like Derrick White. Kind of like guys that can play the one and the two." [31:45]

The hosts agree, noting the high demand for players with Derrick White's skill set and how Cam embodies those qualities, making him a valuable addition to the Pacers.

6. NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) Experience

Cam reflects on his experience with NIL during his time at Marquette, emphasizing the support he received in building his personal brand and securing endorsements.

Cam Jones: "Nil was crazy, bro. It was ran real well at Marquette." [18:11]

He credits the NIL team for helping him navigate the complexities of branding as a student-athlete, including participating in commercials and securing deals.

7. Advice for Young Athletes

As the conversation winds down, Cam offers valuable advice to aspiring athletes entering the NBA:

Host 1: "Be the first in the gym, last to leave. Live in the gym, bro." [32:27]

Cam agrees, emphasizing the importance of dedication, continuous improvement, and maintaining focus amidst distractions.

8. Closing Remarks and Future Aspirations

The episode concludes with the hosts expressing their support for Cam as he embarks on his rookie season with the Pacers. They encourage him to stay committed and take full advantage of the opportunities ahead.

DJ Wells: "Have a great summer league and rookie year, man. We’re rooting for you." [35:02]

Cam Jones: "I appreciate y'all having me on, man." [33:40]

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Notable Quotes

• Cam Jones: "Coach Smart was... a player's coach. He really let us play." [08:38]
• Host 4: "I heard you play center at one point, bro." [05:11]
• Host 1: "Be the first in the gym, last to leave. Live in the gym, bro." [32:27]
• Cam Jones: "I was thinking... like Derrick White. Kind of like guys that can play the one and the two." [31:45]

Conclusion

Cam Jones's journey is a testament to versatility, resilience, and dedication. From his adaptable high school days in Memphis to making his mark at Marquette and now stepping into the NBA with the Pacers, Cam exemplifies the qualities of a rising star. This episode not only highlights his achievements but also provides listeners with inspiration and insights into the pathway to professional basketball.

For those interested in following Cam's career and gaining more insights into the lives of rising athletes, Club Shay Shay continues to offer in-depth and engaging conversations with some of the most promising talents in sports and beyond.

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[Host 4]

What's happening, Nasty? Let's get to it, man.

[DJ Wells]

For sure, man. Can't, man. You know what I'm saying? Even though you keep it feast night, man, you got the AM ones on for sure. You know what I'm saying? Now, you grew up in Memphis, man. They rocking the black forces with the white laces out there, man.

[Cam Jones]

I don't know about the white laces. I had some black forces. I kept the black laces in there, though.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, okay.

[Host 1]

Don't.

[Host 4]

Don't right, though, Ken. Welcome to the city.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Host 4]

Welcome to the city.

[DJ Wells]

Appreciate that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, so right.

[DJ Wells]

My dog, Young Nacho. Young T. You got. You what?

[Host 1]

I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling, bro. We got. We got a newcomer to the league, man, to the association, man. So excited for him. Excited for his journey, man. Let you do the honors.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, man. Welcome to the city, Big Dog, man. All Big east, man. Hell, from Memphis, Tennessee, man, we got the one only Cam Jones in the building, Big dog. Appreciate you sliding on us, man. And welcome to that. My boy.

[Cam Jones]

So appreciate that. Appreciate y' all having me. I was excited to get on here.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, for sure, man. I seen them say draft. My boy said nap town was hating. I said, oh, yeah. He really tapped in Cause everybody else be like, I'm coming to Indianapolis.

[Host 1]

I'm going to Indiana.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah. Fact, the city had to stay. All the above, man. Welcome to that, man.

[Cam Jones]

Appreciate that.

[DJ Wells]

First of all, man, we gotta talk about your career, man. You went crazy in Mark Hetman, but how did you get there, man? Going crazy in Tennessee. What was that like hooping down there in Memphis, man?

[Cam Jones]

Man, growing up, Memphis had some good basketball. Some good players that. Some went into the league. Some, you know, was good, very good college players. Growing up in Memphis, it was fun just being on the floor, being there. I knew I definitely wanted to get away with my college decision. It was actually crazy. Cause my high school coach was old teammates with a coach who was on staff at Marquette, and he basically ended up hitting them up. And then we went out there for a team camp. They recruited me for like a year, man. It took them a year to offer me. Now I pretty much committed a week later. I knew that's why I was one. I knew that was where I wanted to go. Okay.

[Host 4]

I heard you play center at one point, bro.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I played center. My team in high school, I was the tallest player on the floor. For real. We had a big. We had a bigger football player, but he was a football player. He wasn't really, you know.

[Host 4]

Yeah, they own everybody football. I'm in everybody basketball team. He couldn't hoop, for real, though.

[Cam Jones]

He wasn't. Hoop wasn't his main sport. But he had Clemson for football right now, so. Oh, yeah, he doing his thing.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he cool.

[DJ Wells]

He had a lot of fun.

[Host 4]

Get in here and foul my boy.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I definitely played the five, man. Did big man drills every day and practice with the skills balls. But it's crazy how that translated. Cause I made. I shot hella jump hooks this past year. Like just jump hook and spin jump hooks and, you know, it was kind of just automatic just from all the work I put in that year.

[Host 4]

So did you play one and five in high school, though? Did your coach let you be versatile or.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, a little bit. We had a younger point guard that was pretty good. So he had the ball most of the time.

[Host 4]

Okay, okay.

[Host 1]

That's crazy. He went from center to actually being a point guard. Now I'm about to be a point guard in the NBA. Ain't no way in hell coach could have told me to play center.

[Host 4]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out how you was finessing that, bro, with your game.

[Cam Jones]

I ain't gonna lie, bro. I was getting double like in the post, catching the post catch. Instant double. Like gotta make it work.

[Host 4]

Nah, bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro. Short of God, you my new favorite player, bro. I didn't know that, bro. For you play center, but really make it to the NBA as a pg, bro. That's a hell of a journey, bro.

[DJ Wells]

I thought he was posted.

[Host 1]

I thought he was just jumping center and bringing the ball, you know what I mean?

[Host 4]

Going to the post, right? You might get the. You bigger than everybody. I got a smaller guard, but that for you to be a straight center. We got this guard. We don't need you bringing him on.

[Cam Jones]

I used to bring it. I brought it up. I ain't bring it up that much. Sometimes I get a rebound and take it. But yeah, we coach used to be like four round cam. We trying to feed it.

[Host 1]

Wow, that's crazy. I ain't know.

[Host 4]

Wait, you. You got recruited? What if I aau?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Cam Jones]

Okay. We're good for aau, bro, you gotta.

[Host 4]

Look, I'm sorry, I don't wanna get ahead, but you gotta explain that.

[Cam Jones]

Nah, AAU is different. I played like the one two A. Ah, okay.

[Host 4]

I'm trying to figure out how the you got recruited.

[DJ Wells]

Four decades of high. Yeah, we need help. Six' four center. I was like, yeah.

[Host 1]

I was like, no wonder it took him a year. They a see something center.

[Host 4]

Oh, damn.

[Cam Jones]

It was fun though. It was definitely fun. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

And I respect your mindset, bro. Cause you really locked in. For you to be like, hey, I'm going hard head bro, but you got another point guard. Feed me the ball. I would have had a problem. Yeah. I would have been like, he got.

[Host 1]

To come off the bench, coach, I gotta play the five. I'm not, I'm playing the one, bro.

[Host 4]

We never heard that in my life, bro. We have sat down. I've known hella basketball players before. You destroy play center in high school and run the one.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, you.

[Host 4]

You different, bro.

[Cam Jones]

Appreciate that.

[Host 1]

But for real, that probably helped you though a lot because you probably became a good rebounder.

[Cam Jones]

Most definitely.

[Host 1]

Yeah. You know, I mean you can see the floor. You could play multiple positions. You probably know one through five, obviously, but that probably helps your game expand. Definitely.

[Cam Jones]

For sure. Especially in the paint, like scoring the paint, finishing. Yeah, most definitely.

[Host 4]

Markel was the main people on you or did you have any other looks?

[Cam Jones]

I had some good mid majors. Okay. But yeah, I kind of. I knew I wanted to go high major and I knew it was possible for me. So once Markel offered, I was like, yeah, this is pretty much where I want to go.

[Host 1]

Memphis didn't offer?

[Cam Jones]

No.

[Host 4]

Was Penny there then?

[Host 1]

Yeah, he had to be. Yeah.

[Host 4]

It's all right, bro.

[Cam Jones]

I was like, I ain't tripping.

[Host 4]

It happens, bro. It happens.

[DJ Wells]

Is there a rumor, is this rumor any true that Wake Forest was interested in you?

[Cam Jones]

Uh, I think Wake Forest might have shown interest. They didn't. They weren't recruiting me for real, for.

[Host 1]

Okay, yeah, don't worry about it. We make mistakes all the time.

[Host 4]

Did they give you the ball right away or you had to come in and. You know what I mean?

[Cam Jones]

Marquette, man. Coach smart was. He really let us play. So, like, he kind of seen what I could do. Yeah, he'd go, man, once he seen what I could do a little bit, you know, he would pull me to the side as a freshman, like, yo, when you get the ball, go score. Go be aggressive, okay? And yeah, he be talking shit like, go, like, scoring his ass. Cam score on him. Yeah, it's funny.

[Host 4]

Nah, that's a player's dream, though.

[Cam Jones]

Most definitely. He definitely a player's coach. Like, he said that in the games, like, I had a ball on the dude, he fry his ass. Fry his ass. Like, just go, that's him. Yeah, for sure.

[Host 1]

That's a coach for sure. Kill him.

[DJ Wells]

I'd be like, kill her.

[Host 1]

Kill her.

[Cam Jones]

Like she don't want to go.

[Host 1]

Yeah, facts.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, that used to be the teen team catchphrase before Fitzpike. Kill her, Kill her, bro.

[Host 4]

Yo, that's dope. Cause a lot of people, they say, well, a lot of people that I done met through this shit, they was like, when they get to school, it be different than the actual recruitment. It's like, damn, bro, this ain't how you came to my house and told me how shit was gonna be. So for you to have that instant love, that's far.

[Host 1]

And then one of my kids getting recruited by Marquette, I might have to tell him the truth now.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's funny.

[DJ Wells]

Obviously, man, you went to Marquette for hoop movie. You know what I'm saying? Boxing, was that your first love, too?

[Cam Jones]

Nah, that wasn't my first love. I pretty much picked up love for it. Being around my dad, he liked to watch a lot of fights, ok? Big time fights. He grew up a huge Mayweather fan. Watching his pay per views. Yeah, for sure. I pretty much, when I got to Milwaukee, was able to find a good coach with Coach angel up there, good facility up there, you know, I was just training up there for years. Who your favorite fighter Man, Errol Spence.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Damn.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, his last fight was rough, man.

[Host 1]

He got the shit beat out him. Shout out to him. Bud went crazy, though.

[Cam Jones]

Bud did go crazy. Yeah. I rock with Spence, though. It's some good up and coming young fighters too.

[Host 1]

Like who? Who you like? I'm in the box.

[Cam Jones]

I like Moten.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Cam Jones]

I like Abdullah Mason. He's probably.

[Host 1]

He nice, though.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Host 1]

I just hope. Nevermind. He nice. What you hope? I just hope it continue and I hope he has some good fighters. I hope he fights some good fighters. You know how I go like no shade to Tank Davis and them, but they don't really fight the best fighters all the time.

[Cam Jones]

I feel what you're saying. Like.

[Host 1]

Like Shakur, he fought some fighters, but he ain't fought nobody that really nice.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, he waiting on that. On that big time fight. At least it seemed like it seemed like it. Yeah. I like. I like Boots, too, man. Boots is nasty. Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 4]

One and one. Nice in the ring.

[Cam Jones]

I'm solid. I just fought a few times.

[Host 4]

All right. Nobody ever knocks you out.

[Cam Jones]

No, I ain't never. I ain't never been knocked down yet.

[DJ Wells]

Okay.

[Host 4]

Okay. You a big nigga, bro.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I know.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Cam Jones]

Fact.

[DJ Wells]

My boy.

[Host 1]

My boy Evan Turner boxing now.

[DJ Wells]

We got.

[Host 4]

Oh, is he?

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

EP Smack. Send me the footage, man. Shout out to ap, man. He like, hey, he told me set up the celebrity match for him and Lance.

[Host 4]

Him and Lance. That's some good ones right there.

[Host 1]

I was like, I.

[Cam Jones]

Them celebrity matches make money, bro.

[Host 1]

For real. For the show.

[DJ Wells]

N straight up, they the real. They the real boxing right now, boys just tapped in with that, man.

[Cam Jones]

That Charon White fight had me weak, man.

[Host 1]

You too.

[DJ Wells]

The way he jab you.

[Host 1]

Last fight. I know.

[DJ Wells]

We was gonna talk about that, but.

[Host 1]

That was a classic fight.

[DJ Wells]

Stiffest J ever seen fight.

[Host 1]

Bro.

[DJ Wells]

I was.

[Cam Jones]

When he did the ring, war walked in, kept going.

[Host 1]

He might have to be a reoccurring guest. He act like us, bro. He might just have to come give.

[DJ Wells]

An update on the season, I bet.

[Cam Jones]

Gladly do that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

For sure, man. Obviously he had a great career with Marquette, man, but like you said, freshman year, got acclimated. What was that time where you felt like, all right, I'm ready now? This my team.

[Cam Jones]

Man. Right when that. It took me a while to get over that sweet 16 loss my junior year. And, man, I'm still, you know, for how we went out senior year. But, yeah, once I got over, pretty much, you know, coach pulled me into his office and Was like, yo, Cam, I'm not gonna go in a portal and fish for no point guard. Cause I think there's something you can do for us at this level, for this team. So, man, I put in a hell of work over the summer, working on my game, watching individual film with teammates, getting our two man game, right. Learning how, you know, learning more about them as people, learning more about what they like, what they like to do on the floor. And we was able to just, you know, go out there and do our thing. It was a lot of fun, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Most definitely Big Easy. Definitely not an easy conference to play. What was one of your favorite games, one of your favorite moments in college? You know what I'm saying? Obviously, you went crazy.

[Cam Jones]

Oh, just in college in general. Probably getting a triple double against Purdue. Cause Purdue, we owed them. They had beat us my sophomore year. We pretty much had them. We played them here, gave that game away. Then we lost them in the Maui Classic Championship. That was painful. Very painful. It was. It's a story behind that. But, yeah, so we played in my senior year, and we was like, bro, y' all not beating us, bro. So that was pretty much our mindset.

[DJ Wells]

For y' all not to be the same conference for y' all to play them three times. It's crazy.

[Host 1]

It's crazy.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah. We turn it into a home and home after the Maui game. So my senior year. And they gonna play em here this year coming up. Okay. Okay.

[Host 1]

I watched y' all playing. We got a kid named Ryan. Damn. What's Ryan's last name?

[DJ Wells]

Conwell.

[Host 1]

I was gonna get that nigga name. Yeah, Ryan Conwell.

[DJ Wells]

He a pike kid.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but I seen y' all have a little duel in the Garden.

[Cam Jones]

A real duel.

[Host 1]

Yeah, y' all going crazy.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I hate our opponents, honestly.

[DJ Wells]

Damn.

[Cam Jones]

I ain't gonna lie. He was frontin.

[DJ Wells]

Ain't.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he was going crazy. He had 38. Yeah, y' all both was going. That's.

[Cam Jones]

Like 26. A few assists.

[Host 4]

Okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah, they had a duel. I was like, damn. I had seen you play before that, but I was watching Ryan. I ain't gonna lie.

[Cam Jones]

I was watching Ryan.

[Host 1]

Cause he little bro. And I was just like, damn. Damn. Hey, they going at it, bro.

[Cam Jones]

He was not missing, bro. Dender.

[Host 1]

All threes facts they was having.

[Host 4]

That was one of your toughest matchups.

[Cam Jones]

Right there this past season. Yeah, I liked Luis or Lewis from St. John's he was all right.

[Host 4]

Yeah.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, man, we the biggies. Like you said, Big east is a tough conference. It's always tough. Every year, like, even, like Seton hall. Only win in the conference was against UConn. It's really like no game. You could just pull up and just BS your way through.

[Host 4]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

I'd be mad as hell. UConn the yellow one. One game against us, like.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Cam Jones]

In fact, they. Man, that ain't the first time they lost to cnaw, honestly.

[DJ Wells]

But, yeah, it gets tricky in the Big East.

[Cam Jones]

Back to back champs. Yeah.

[Host 4]

Could you play for a coach like that?

[Cam Jones]

Coach Early.

[Host 4]

Yeah. Keep it real.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Cam Jones]

I feel like he loves his players. I mean, he's just a little. He got a little screw loose. All coaches gotta have a little screw loose. Especially in Dallas, bro. Yeah, he different. Yeah. Obviously, I'm not too fond of him, but, you know, I'm rocking with Coach Smart.

[Host 4]

Nah, yeah, yeah. I was just saying, like, that style.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. He be on one.

[Host 4]

Yeah. I'm trying to get him to start acting like that. That's why.

[Host 1]

Nah, you ain't gonna do that. You ain't got that too cool, bro. I cuss you out. I say I'll make the joke afterwards. Like, boy, you sad as. Hey, all right, boy.

[Cam Jones]

That clip Bill was like. He was like, your stats. Don't worry about your stats because they suck, quite frankly.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's me. That's me. Hey, boy, y' all all trash. That's what I'm telling you. Ain't none of y to the NBA tomorrow, bro. They be like, what? I be like, y' all they sophomore. Duh. Right?

[Host 4]

That don't even make sense.

[Host 1]

Like, none of y' all going to the league tomorrow. They be like, d, I'm going to class, you stupid. Shout out to them boys, man.

[DJ Wells]

For sure. All right, man, before you leave off, Marquette, man, talk about that nil, man. What was that like? That first moment? For the first time ever, we got a all women's boxing event going down.

[Host 1]

In New York City. I mean, a mega event for sure, man.

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[Cam Jones]

Nil was crazy, bro.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's the first time we got some real love about the Nil.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, Nil was crazy.

[Host 1]

He got his ass.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah. You 5, 20 now.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, nil was good, man. It was ran. It was ran real well at Marquette. Had a very good collective. Very good people in doing that job in that profession, you know, Nil people to help put your name out there, get you brand deals or whatever. It was love, man. For sure.

[DJ Wells]

Nah, that's fire. When I seen my boy doing the Crush commercial, I said, okay, they tapped in now.

[Host 1]

Yeah, for sure.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, that was love. That Crush commercial was love.

[DJ Wells]

It was bad.

[Cam Jones]

They chose a rough time. My cut was ass.

[DJ Wells]

But they ain't let you get prepared.

[Cam Jones]

Nah.

[Host 1]

Yeah, as long as you got it done, man.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure. It was all good.

[Host 1]

Let me ask you this. Cause Marquette Brand Jordan, right?

[Cam Jones]

Yeah.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

What's that like? Did y' all get pes? Y' all get special pes? You got pes every year, man. What y' all get?

[Cam Jones]

We got some sixes, some ones, some low ones, some fours, and, like, some. Ooh, them fours crazy. 30. Like some 38s or something.

[Host 1]

Them fours is crazy.

[Host 4]

What color is the fours?

[DJ Wells]

Fours.

[Cam Jones]

And the ones I could pull them up, they like. They got all Martell colors on.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, he gonna pull them up real quick.

[Host 1]

I hope it ain't the fours I'm thinking about.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I think it is. The PES that they got. Is it these fours?

[Host 1]

I hope it ain't the fours. I'm thinking of the blue ones.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, I think the yellow, the. The m on the suede joints.

[Cam Jones]

I ain't seen them.

[Host 1]

I think it them right there.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I think it is.

[DJ Wells]

Is it them when we got them?

[Host 4]

Oh, them crazy.

[Cam Jones]

Hold on. I don't know. I don't know if you might not got them.

[Host 1]

You ain't get them.

[DJ Wells]

You ain't get them. You don't know.

[Cam Jones]

You don't know if you got them threes nasty. I ain't seen them fours in long ass.

[DJ Wells]

You gotta tap in, man. You got Marquette take care of my boy.

[Host 1]

If I didn't, man, is fire for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Now that's a five part. Going to a Georgia school, they be lazy.

[Cam Jones]

These it right here.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, I did not see them.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Host 4]

Them freaky.

[Host 1]

Them the yellow ones right there.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure.

[Host 4]

Damn Lululemon.

[Host 1]

All right. Yeah, them different right there.

[DJ Wells]

You know how nasty you got to.

[Host 1]

Be to work where a rare P.

[DJ Wells]

Was a little limit.

[Cam Jones]

That is not od, man.

[Host 1]

That's OD n nothing. Nothing. Them are right though, right there.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I ride with them. Them fours you talking about. I think a few like a while ago they got them.

[Host 1]

Ah, yeah, them, them. Are them crazy?

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I need to know film fire. Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Wells]

N them crazy, obviously, man. You declare. How was that, that pre draft workout? What was that like, man?

[Cam Jones]

Man, my. My. My pre draft experience was a little interesting because I got hurt in the combine. I had a grade 2 hamstring strain or tear. Sat out for a few weeks. Then I was able to go to a few pre draft workouts and do one on no shooting. So I was just pretty much there on the sidelines giving energy, talking shit, just encouraging people. But yeah, it was cool. And then I shot at the end to work out, so it was pretty cool. Pre drive process. So.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[DJ Wells]

Kind of similar to you. You're saying you had to see how.

[Host 1]

The last couple stops. That was mine right there. I had sprained my mcl. I had a grade two sprain in my mcl. I had to sit out like that. I didn't really do no shooting drills or nothing, but very similar to yours.

[Cam Jones]

You went to some.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I went to Philly the day before the draft and I shot in Indiana. That was it.

[Host 4]

How many stops you do?

[Cam Jones]

Seven.

[Host 4]

Oh, damn. You went on a real tour?

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, real tour.

[Host 4]

Oh, wow. All right, you in the league now, man. So what's something you feel like you can work on on your game?

[Cam Jones]

What's one of your weaknesses, man? First and foremost is getting stronger, getting my body stronger. You know, this dude's been in the league a long time. Bodies are much more mature. They know how to train. So, you know, that's one area. Making sure, just getting faster, getting stronger, making sure my body's prepared and just cleaning everything up with both hands, passing, finishing around the rim, you know, my lateral movement for Defense and. Cause you know we finna be picking up full.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cam Jones]

You know, just constantly working on that. Getting reps in that, you know. Cause I'm looking forward to. You know, I'm already doing it. Just adapting to the pace of way and, you know, really embodying that and embodying what that means for sure.

[DJ Wells]

Obviously, we know you got drafted by the pace. I want to ask you.

[Host 4]

I ain't never seen a nigga catch up on this.

[Host 1]

Hey, why you trying to make it. I'm trying make it weird.

[Host 4]

Damn. Praise dance. That's that mom. There it is, Mike.

[DJ Wells]

We got it.

[Host 1]

Griffy laughing hard back there. Rolling. My fault. This ain't about me.

[Host 4]

Oh, man, this ain't no ISO. This about K of the Night, man.

[Cam Jones]

You talking about King Griffey.

[Host 1]

He going in. All right.

[DJ Wells]

All right. But we know you got drafted by the face.

[Host 1]

Rolling.

[DJ Wells]

He's rock right now. Where did you think you might go? Did you have any teams that was interested in you or any idea where you might got drafted at or a promise?

[Cam Jones]

I didn't get a promise. Well, I knew I was going to Indiana when they traded up to get 38. I kind of talked that out with my agent. We feed. This is a good spot for me to be at, and it's somewhere I wanted to go, but, like, I only wanted to. Well, not wanted to, I guess. Preferred. I really didn't care where I went. But if you would have had to ask me, it was a few teams that I preferred. Indiana was one of them for sure.

[Host 1]

So I try to get him. He's somewhere around there.

[Host 4]

That's a cool way to do a cam.

[Host 1]

Swat, motherfucker.

[Host 4]

I'll try to bring it in like a lightning bug.

[DJ Wells]

That's two.

[Host 1]

That's two.

[DJ Wells]

Hurry up.

[Host 1]

Listen, y' all know I forget we on a. All right. That's two.

[DJ Wells]

But it's funny because your style play is, like, perfect for the Patriots. Obviously, man. You in the college getting awards. It's his turnover ratio. A team that gets up and down the court. Obviously, you can make good decisions, man. You watch the team, obviously, in the finals, man, just like, I can lock in with them for sure.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, most definitely. That's what I was thinking, watching them the whole playoffs. Like, you know, I rock with this system. Just how they running and playing. Similar. A lot similar to Marquette.

[Host 4]

Yeah, you gonna get a lot of opportunities.

[Host 1]

You gonna get an opportunity. I was about to say it's a big opportunity with Tyrese being out for the season. Obviously they got T.J. mcConnell. They probably got some other guards that we not thinking of right now. I'm not sure who they picked up. They probably picked up somebody in free agency. But you gotta have a big opportunity though.

[Host 4]

It's open for you.

[DJ Wells]

That's one thing about this I wish you would have came pause on different circumstances, you know what I'm saying? A lot of turmoil going on right now, but you definitely get a chance to play. I love that for you, my boy.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah. Looking forward to summer league getting to know those guys and building those relationships on the floor.

[DJ Wells]

Most definitely. Hey, summer league, man. We was talking about it the OG days. Boyce used to hooping that Orlando side gym that was low key to fire in summer league situation.

[Host 1]

Pacers used to play in that every time too. Yeah, Yeah. I don't n everybody in Vegas now.

[DJ Wells]

Oh, it's another one too. Like in Utah still.

[Host 1]

Utah. Y' all going to Vegas, right? Yeah, yeah. Y got to be there for woo.

[Host 4]

Well be ready for that weather, boys.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Y going out there two weeks.

[Host 4]

Yeah, about it.

[Cam Jones]

Just wear the beater for sure out.

[Host 4]

That's my swag.

[Host 1]

Real baby boy swag.

[DJ Wells]

If you wear the beater, you definitely.

[Host 1]

Need a black horse.

[Host 4]

Just make sure the beater white. Don't wear no gray beater.

[Host 1]

He got a black one.

[DJ Wells]

You got a gray beater?

[Cam Jones]

I got gray beaters, yeah.

[Host 4]

Stop wearing gray beaters, bro.

[Host 1]

He from Memphis, bro.

[DJ Wells]

M.

[Host 4]

I knew that had a great beater.

[DJ Wells]

A great beater.

[Host 1]

Crazy.

[Host 4]

No gray beaters at that.

[Cam Jones]

No gray beaters.

[Host 4]

Save them for the family reunion at the crib.

[Cam Jones]

I'm g lock in. I normally. I keep the. I keep like. I order fresh packs on rotation. I'm going just slide the gray ones.

[DJ Wells]

Off this go to hang white, bro.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 4]

Ordering a multicolor pack of beaters is crazy. Okay. If you want a 955.

[Host 1]

A gray beater, like white draw.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, it's a. I get black, a pack of black, a pack of white, and then it's a. It's another pack, like with variety in there.

[Host 1]

Okay, we going to cut the variety.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we no more.

[Host 1]

The variety pack.

[DJ Wells]

Got to go.

[Host 1]

Just have extra white with it there.

[DJ Wells]

Hey, man, we heard it right away, man. You a big RB guy, man. Who's one of your favorite R B artists? Who you rocking right now.

[Cam Jones]

Man? R Wade, my favorite of all time.

[Host 1]

Okay, that's. That's okay.

[Host 4]

Yep. My new favorite player, bro. We locked in, bro.

[DJ Wells]

You can not be wearing a gray beater listening to R wave, bro. We going Call hotline. Make sure you okay.

[Host 4]

That nigga outside singing Green light this one.

[Host 1]

But it don't seem right in the great beater crazy with some forces, it would be wicked.

[Host 4]

What about old school R and B?

[Cam Jones]

Anybody grew up on Mike's school old some today.

[Host 1]

What what's owed to us, though. Praise like.

[Host 4]

That's why I'm. I'm trying to. He about to age us, so go ahead.

[Cam Jones]

I was just. I f. GS.

[Host 4]

I swear to God. Hey, you good no matter what.

[DJ Wells]

This he is officially part of.

[Host 4]

Why he was over here looking nervous. You was confusing me. But don't ever be ashamed to say we scream chaos on here.

[DJ Wells]

20K. Do you have your passport? Do you have your shots?

[Host 1]

He is part of the team. 5:20k.

[Host 4]

My God.

[DJ Wells]

Listen, man. Kels did what he did, boy. He's supp to go. We on, we on.

[Host 4]

I said listen.

[Host 1]

Yeah, tell.

[Host 4]

He tell you listen, man. Robert did that.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we don't like Robert.

[Host 4]

Give Robert the chair, bro. Just bring Kelly back.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, we just want R. Kelly.

[Host 1]

We don't want Robert.

[Host 4]

We don't care about Robert did that.

[Host 1]

This.

[Host 4]

He was over here like, oh, Lord.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you can say it on here.

[DJ Wells]

Because we ride with R. Kelly.

[Host 1]

We don't rock with Robert.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, default Robert. R. Kelly. He still gets locked in.

[Host 4]

How you feel about the rappers, though, man? From your city?

[DJ Wells]

Like, you got some dope ones from Memphis?

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, it is definitely a good amount.

[Host 4]

Is that like a thing? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know yo Gotti does his birthday bash and stuff there, but y' all got bad. Y' all got youngster. Y' all got glow.

[Host 1]

Come on.

[DJ Wells]

Dolph.

[Host 4]

Dolph, everybody, bro.

[Cam Jones]

Glock for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keeglock one of them that I can get into. Poosheisty. Real catchy.

[DJ Wells]

Free Poosheisty.

[Cam Jones]

And he's still lucky.

[DJ Wells]

Still. Yeah, they live his raps.

[Host 1]

Yeah, boy, still.

[DJ Wells]

Come on.

[Host 1]

He on his way, though.

[Host 4]

I just didn't know what I wanted to act like, what that music scene was like, though, man.

[Cam Jones]

It was like around my junior senior year, high school, Memphis was on a crazy run. Yeah. All these dudes, all these people that you just named was kind of on the up, up and coming. That's all you heard. Just in cars, riding around throughout the day in the gym. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. When I'm in the gym, I'm more of a, like, a mellow type guy. Like, I play like, no cap. I play Kales in there. Drake.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay.

[Cam Jones]

But when I didn't have the orc, especially in Memphis, you know, it was. It wasn't that. So I learned a lot of songs from that. So, yeah, I definitely learned about a few artists just listening around.

[Host 4]

Okay, okay.

[Host 1]

Yeah, chill. He chill. He like us. He like me more like, they like. Well, they like new shit. I don't like none.

[Host 4]

I love Rod Wave. I like NBA.

[Cam Jones]

I'm rolling, bro.

[Host 4]

For sure.

[DJ Wells]

No cap is solid.

[Host 1]

He gets no play in my ride. It ain't no disrespect. I don't know him yet. I ain't tapped in my playlist. Don't go past 2007.

[Host 4]

Yeah, get wicked, bro.

[Host 1]

You come to one of my parties. You invited. But it's definitely.

[Host 4]

What was you born in 0102 02?

[DJ Wells]

Oh, yeah, bro.

[Host 1]

Well, when you was born, boy, I was turning.

[DJ Wells]

I was turning. I was going to Crazy boy.

[Host 1]

I was listening to Lil John. Oh, what, the click.

[Host 4]

B in China White. What?

[Host 1]

We was going crazy. Damn.

[Host 4]

2002, we all had.

[DJ Wells]

That was an anthem for a lot of ass whoopings.

[Host 1]

Damn. What? 2002 as well. 7th, 8th grade.

[Host 4]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Dang.

[Host 4]

Literally crazy times, man.

[Host 1]

If I went to school, I went 03. You went 02.

[Host 4]

02.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

Damn, kid.

[DJ Wells]

Growing up in Memphis, was you a Grizzly fan by chance or what team? Who'd you rock with?

[Cam Jones]

I was never really a Grizzlies fan. I kind of grew up a players guy.

[DJ Wells]

Okay. Okay.

[Cam Jones]

I used to like Kobe a lot. For sure, Steph. So those are my top two players that I really liked. But that grit and grind era was. It was cool like that with Tony Allen. Them? Yeah, Tony Allen, Zach Randolph, Martin, that big three. Yeah. They turned Memphis up, for real.

[Host 1]

They really did.

[Host 4]

Mike Conley from our city.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. He from Hell yeah. Shout out, Mike.

[Host 4]

They had a crazy run. Who you will model your game after, or do you see yourself similar to anybody in the league right now?

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, for sure. I was thinking, like, in my interviews, I always gave comps like Derrick White.

[Host 4]

Okay.

[Cam Jones]

Kind of like a. I was. In my interviews, I was actually saying Nemhardt, kind of guys like that, that can play the one and the two. Yeah. Do what you need. Can catch and shoot. Okay. Can handle the ball. Make the right. Play with the ball. Don't turn it over. Those are two of my main guys, for sure, man.

[Host 1]

That's a valuable player right now. I ain't gonna lie. Everybody want a Derrick White or a Nemhard. So the Mario game after them. Yeah. You definitely them are the ones, guaranteed.

[DJ Wells]

Bags, baby.

[Host 1]

All them.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

People that can guard multiple positions and play multiple positions.

[Cam Jones]

People love them Most definitely, man.

[DJ Wells]

Before we got out of here, T, you got any advice for the youngster? Man, going into his rookie year, man.

[Host 1]

Be the first in the gym, last to leave. That's just like be a gym rat. Like, I swear to God, everything that you thinking you want to do is gonna be there in year 10, 12, 15, 20. My biggest advice, the girls ain't going nowhere. That was my kryptonite. I lived in Atlanta as a rookie, I went out. So I'm telling you, they gonna be there in the summer, they gonna be there everywhere. So throughout that year, stay in the gym, first to leave. I mean, first to first to get there.

[DJ Wells]

Last week I was the first to leave.

[Host 1]

Don't be me. The first, the first to get there, last to leave, every single time, man. Live in the gym, bro.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, most definitely. I'm gonna do that.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Living there, bro. It ain't nothing else to do. Especially you and Indy. I'll tell you, you can call us anytime we be down here, we'd be chilling. But we come shoot with you too. I'll probably bust your ass in one on one still.

[Cam Jones]

Okay, we gonna see that shit light.

[Host 1]

Oh, listen, listen. I'm old, but I still can hoop. Sure. No, but just live in the gym, bro. All jokes aside, bro, that's why Indiana like a perfect place to come. Cause it ain't too much going on, you still can get out and but live in the gym.

[Host 4]

Call me for all your off court activities, bro.

[DJ Wells]

Yeah, so yeah, bro, you got any questions, bro, you need to know where to go, where to eat. We got you, bro. Just step here, bro. Make sure you take care of the show, man.

[Cam Jones]

I appreciate y' all having me on, man.

[Host 4]

It's easy, bro.

[Host 1]

Everybody in the city gonna rock with you too. Just cause you came, man. A lot of people don't come on the show when they first get here. You know what I mean? They don't do that.

[Host 4]

You're actually the first Pacer. We said you are.

[Host 1]

You are the first Facer. Second. Who else can? Miles. Miles sat down. Miles.

[Host 4]

Our guy Miles had the script in his head. He's planning on leaving anyway. We hoping you stay here for at least 10 years, you know what I'm saying?

[Host 1]

Shout out to my dog, Miles.

[DJ Wells]

Shout out.

[Host 1]

I'm happy for you. Congratulations. But we got a new Pacer in the building. Shout out.

[DJ Wells]

Come on, man. Appreciate it, man. You know what I'M saying Pacer for your flight, man. Happy to have you, man. What number we going crazy?

[Cam Jones]

Seven.

[DJ Wells]

Okay, okay.

[Cam Jones]

Big number it is.

[Host 4]

Number in our city.

[Host 1]

Held that seven down, didn't he?

[Host 4]

Yeah. Defensive player of the year.

[DJ Wells]

Big seven.

[Cam Jones]

I'm going to be a devil.

[Host 1]

I'm all NBA in that seven.

[Cam Jones]

Yeah, I'm going to be a gym rat.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you got to be a gym rat. Hold that seven down. Don't pull that 44 out.

[Host 4]

You don't want that 44 league.

[DJ Wells]

Now that be fire.

[Host 4]

Go crazy.

[DJ Wells]

That 44 legendary boy from the law for sure, man. City show love to the cab, man. Tap in, man. Have a great summer league. Have a great rookie year, man. We going to be rooting for you. Can't wait to see you on the court, man.

[Host 1]

Along the whole journey, bro.

[Host 4]

We'll see you down there too, bro.

[DJ Wells]

It's a link up for sure, man. You know what it is? Club 520 the volume.

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[Host 1]

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