Club Shay Shay - Afroman Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Afroman Part 1 (August 5, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)

Guest: Afroman (Grammy-nominated rapper, viral sensation, and cultural icon)

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Overview

In this engaging episode, NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe sits down with Afroman for a candid and lively conversation. The pair discuss Afroman's ongoing legal battles with law enforcement, the inspiration behind his music, childhood influences, and his vision for a positive Black community. The episode weaves personal anecdotes, social commentary, and plenty of laughs, offering insights into Afroman's creative process and worldview.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Police Raid & Viral Lawsuit

• Police Raid Background (00:00–00:25, 35:08–39:19)
  • Afroman describes how police raided his home based on a tip from an informant who lied, claiming he had a dungeon and large quantities of drugs.
  • He wasn’t present during the raid but watched it unfold through his home surveillance footage.
  • “It wasn’t no dungeon. It wasn’t no weed.” (Afroman, 00:04)
• Aftermath and Public Response (40:03–48:45)
  • The police later filed a defamation lawsuit against Afroman after he used footage from the raid in music videos and songs (such as “Lemon Pound Cake”), turning the ordeal into viral content.
  • Afroman expresses surprise that law enforcement were affected by his words: “I was surprised at the fact that they let me know it hurt.” (Afroman, 43:37)
  • Shannon highlights the irony: “So they did wrong. And instead of apologizing for the wrong, they tried to go after compensation from you...” (Shannon Sharpe, 48:36)
  • Afroman notes there was never an apology and the actual instigator (the informant) was never punished.
  • The episode details the absurdity of the situation, including a now-infamous incident of officers allegedly taking his lemon pound cake.

Notable Quote

"My answer to them violating me like that is a rap song."
— Afroman (00:07)

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2. Afroman’s Roots & Real Estate Philosophy

• Origins & Moving to Ohio (05:14–06:09)
  • Afroman reveals he’s originally from LA, but his family hails from Alabama and Mississippi. He moved to Ohio for “a girl and some cheap land.” (Afroman, 05:43)
  • He discusses his appreciation for affordable land in Ohio compared to LA and cites lessons from his father about migration and financial responsibility.
  • “My dad taught me how not to fall in love with a city to the point where it breaks you financially.” (Afroman, 06:36)
• Building Community (08:14–15:12)
  • His goal is to build an “anti-N word” Afro American community—a space for positive Black self-identity, free from slurs and negativity. He explains his preference for the term “Afro American” rooted in historical perspective and a desire for self-determination.
  • “I wanted to make one, an anti-N word, Afro American community.” (Afroman, 11:52)
  • He envisions a place where Black individuals can avoid derogatory language, particularly the N-word, which he sees as the most offensive in English.

Notable Quote

“There’s a thin line between freedom of speech and disturbing the peace.”
— Afroman (18:04)

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3. Views on Language, Identity, and Community

• Stance on the N-word (12:00–18:04)
  • Afroman elaborates that, while he recognizes others’ freedom of speech, he wants a space where the word isn’t casually used—a choice, not censorship.
  • He discusses the ongoing presence of the N-word in rap and pop culture, describing his conscious decision to stop using it around 2000.

Notable Exchange

“If we say this—if it’s taboo for them to use it, let’s make it taboo for us to use it.”
— Shannon Sharpe (16:05)

“I have to acknowledge there are self-proclaimed N-words... But I am gonna distinguish myself from them.”
— Afroman (16:22)

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4. Growing Up, Mississippi, and Influences

• Childhood in Mississippi (19:44–20:44)
  • Afroman shares fond memories of playing outside, sports, and the close-knit community atmosphere.
• Mississippi Food and Cooking (21:42–23:13)
  • Mississippi is famous for fried chicken, soul food, gumbo, collard greens, and influences from the Gulf and Cajun cuisine.
  • Afroman’s signature dish: “I cook the best shrimp fried rice in the world.” (Afroman, 22:44)

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5. Musical Career & Influences

• Early Hustle & First Rap Song (23:13–24:00, 42:50–43:23)
  • He got into rapping to push back against bullies and authority, starting as early as age 12, first influenced by artists like Houdini and KRS-One.
• “Because I Got High” & Internet Virality (23:13–32:36)
  • Inspiration for his breakout song came from a string of everyday events, leading to candid lyrics and viral success.
  • Discusses going viral on Napster before YouTube: “Because I Got High made itself popular on that first form of YouTube called Napster.” (Afroman, 27:42)
  • Reflects on being nominated for a Grammy alongside Missy Elliot, DMX, Jay-Z, and Nelly. Despite not winning, he now feels pride in his achievements.

Notable Moments

“If it’s good enough, you can’t stop it.”
— Afroman (32:09)

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6. Turning Misfortune Into Art

• Turning the Raid into Music (40:03–43:23)
  • When faced with police seizure and public humiliation, Afroman channeled the experience into humor, music, and viral anthems, showing resilience through creativity.
  • The police officers’ reaction to songs like “Lemon Pound Cake” further fueled public interest and scrutiny over law enforcement behavior.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Raiding Officers’ Feelings:
  “With all of this power, with all of this authority... they can’t stay on that pedestal. They’re going to let my peasant words hurt them.” (Afroman, 44:18)
• On Power of Apology:
  “When you mess up, you know, it’s best to take that deep breath, say, hey, I’m sorry. And get that over with.” (Afroman, 45:41)
• On Father’s Lessons:
  “He said even the animals migrate, getting a better life, and you standing there like a fool.” (Afroman, 06:58)
• On Linguistic Choices:
  “If I’m a Laker fan, I don’t say fuck the Lakers… for the most part, you gonna be pro what you are.” (Afroman, 12:57)
• On Viral Justice:
  “What they didn’t realize was they was doing this in front of the whole world. And it’s different when the whole world’s watching.” (Afroman, 48:45)

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Timestamps for Segment Highlights

• Police Raid Story Begins: 00:00 – 00:25, 35:08 – 39:19
• Building Community / “Anti-N Word” Vision: 08:14 – 15:14
• Discussion on Language & Identity: 12:00 – 18:04
• Musical Roots & Influence: 23:13 – 27:31
• “Because I Got High” Success & Napster Era: 27:31 – 32:36
• Lawsuit’s Irony & Police Response: 43:23 – 48:45

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Tone and Character

The episode is open, humorous, sometimes irreverent, and always candid. Shannon Sharpe guides the discussion with warmth and curiosity, while Afroman blends wit, wisdom, and realness—never shying away from tough topics or controversy.

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Perfect for listeners interested in:

• Stories of resilience and turning adversity into art
• Social commentary on race and community
• The journey from street-level hustle to viral stardom
• The power of language and identity in hip-hop culture

Listen to Part 2 for more stories and reflections from Afroman’s journey!

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

The police raided your home, they broke your door down, they searched the house.

[Afroman]

It wasn't no dungeon, it wasn't no weed. I was surprised. Some big bad cops. Let me see where it hurt. My answer to them violating me like that is a rap song, right? You ever seen that movie Lionheart?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Afroman]

Toward the end, Lionheart was fighting with them broke ribs. And that big dude, he was just bouncing around. He tapped them ribs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's where you heard that, huh?

[Afroman]

All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got to roll the dice that's why all my life I be grinding all my life all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price wanna slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. We'd first like to thank Barbershop Cuts and Cocktails for hosting us today in Las Vegas. And hidden behind a working barbershop in the Cosmopolitan, this speakeasy brings live music, great cocktails and one of the best nights on the strip. Now let's get to today's episode. Stopping by for conversation on the drink today is a Grammy nominated rapper, A multi platinum selling rapper, a global chart topic artist, A creator of anthems that stand the test of times. He's a total performer. He's loved by a devoted fan base worldwide. He dances, plays the drums, plays the guitar. He's a total musician, an entertainer and an entrepreneur. He's a cultural icon, a viral sensation and a fan favorite. He's one of a kind, an American hero. He's a champion of free speech. The hungry hustling American dream. Here he is. Afroman.

[Afroman]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you like that intro?

[Afroman]

That is so. I love it. I love it. You the first person to do it right Besides myself. I always have to introduce myself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. You know what? Everybody that comes on Club Shay Shay, you know I got. You know, I already know you. Put this here down.

[Afroman]

Okay. Good Little something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Afroman]

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[Afroman]

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[Afroman]

It just came out. Jeremy, what did you just do? You just set yourself up for failure.

[MC Jin]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I've never told this story.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

What you thinking?

[Afroman]

Good, good. You know, I gotta drink this slower than I drink cold. 45, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate it, man. Thanks for stopping by. I see you gotta. You are taking a block off of Don King. Cause this is something that Don King have the hair. You know, he had his hair out, had the flag going.

[Afroman]

You know, like I don't know. You know, there's only what I hear and see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't remember.

[Afroman]

I know Don King. Okay. Okay. And he is. Cause he's from Clevel is one of my inspirations. Like, you know, some people hate him, but I love I am the American dream.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

You know I got that from him. I got a whole song and I talk about being The American dream and all this type stuff and his vocabulary, right? And. Yeah. Amen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like Chappelle's in Ohio. What is it? And I think you're originally from, like, Hattiesburg, right? You're from Mississippi.

[Afroman]

I'm from la, but, you know, my people come up in Alabama, you know, summertime. Okay. Back and forth, you know, two years here, two years there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So being from la, what was it about Ohio? What's the appeal? I'm trying to figure out where Chappelle. Cause Chappelle, I think from New York, was in Hollywood, and he said he wanted a nice, quieter life, to raise a family. What was the appeal about Ohio to you that drew you there?

[Afroman]

It was a girl and some cheap land. I could talk all day, but I guess I'll go tell you the truth, right? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the girl in the cheap land.

[Afroman]

Girl in cheap land.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you still with the girl?

[Afroman]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got.

[Afroman]

Hey, I like how Facebook say they get complicated.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's complicated.

[Afroman]

I like that one. That was a nice out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So have you run into Chappelle? Have you seen him?

[Afroman]

We getting close, man. Cause, you know, his people is knowing my people. And, you know, I know he's up. He's up north by Dayton, right. And I'm out Southeast, you know, by Cincinnati.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw online that you brought purchasing property, five acres in Ohio, 24,000. And today it's worth over 300,000. Was that your thought process? Because I'm sure money goes a lot further in Ohio than it would in LA or a lot of other major cities.

[Afroman]

Yeah, yeah. My dad taught me how not to fall in love with a city to the point where it breaks you financially. Oh, okay. You know, always preach, don't let a woman break you and don't let a tourist type sentimental city break you. You know, just, you know, like, get where you need. He say even the animals migrate.

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[Afroman]

Yeah, very true. He said the animals migrate, getting a better life, and you standing there like a fool, you know? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you consider that one of your better purchases, that land, that real estate that you was able to purchase?

[Afroman]

Yeah, real estate's always good because, you know, the value go up instead of decrease.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

So, yeah, it was cheap. You know, coming from LA, I never heard of a $50,000 house. You know, just different stuff. You know, I got some. I got two places right next to each other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

So, you know, I got. But, you know, I didn't. I haven't heard. I heard my dad talk about my grandfather getting land for that type of stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

You know, way back when. Yeah, back singing Sam Cooke and stuff like that. Yeah, right. So I was tripping when I heard them kind of prices.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you're like, okay, let me get a little piece of this right here and see what's going on.

[Afroman]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got a farm?

[Afroman]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it considered a farm? Do you have animals? Do you rave animals? Do you grow your own crops?

[Afroman]

I'm a rapper and I get high and I do that. I ain't growing nothing, you know, All I want is play my rap music loud without the police showing up. I just need some space.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't. So you don't have animals, you don't grow your own food. It's just, you just have a big piece of real estate.

[Afroman]

Yeah, I don't have time. I be rapping all the time. I don't got time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said 195 acres. You want to build your own community?

[Afroman]

Yes. Afro Americans. And I'm going to say Afro American. I am of African descent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Afroman]

Personally, I feel like we was betrayed and sold to the point where I feel like it's my option to patronize that title or not. All due respect to him, if something jumped off and all black people were attacked, I would stand with them for survival. Great, okay. But I find a lot of them arrogant and condescending and disrespectful to Afro Americans when they're here on the civil rights that our mothers and fathers and grandfathers fought for. I just think they ought to be a little bit more respectful under all the circumstances. Under the circumstances that they betrayed us, backstabbed us, served us, sold us, and then they're living in America benefitting off of the civil rights that we fought for. That being said, you talking about white America, correct? No, I'm talking about Africa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about. Oh, you're talking about Africans that came over.

[Afroman]

Right. Okay, the Africans, they sold us, Right. They sold us in slavery.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

Then, you know, a lot of them are condescending, okay? Disrespectful toward Afro Americans. Oh, okay, okay. So that being said, I call myself an Afro American, okay? Not denying I'm a descendant of an African.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Afroman]

But just before the betrayal, I call myself an Afro American. Now, as an Afro American, I don't believe a community. Well, they have made them in the past, but they have been destroyed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Afroman]

There's not necessarily a black community or a black friendly community designed by black people for black people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There was there Greenwood in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

[Afroman]

Like I said, they tore them down,

[Shannon Sharpe]

right Okay, I think you said so it's like.

[Afroman]

It's not our option right now. Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

Okay. So now I want to improve on a greenwood. Oh, okay. I wanna come back, I wanna try it again in. What is this, 26?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

Okay. Now, my quick idea is like, you know, they say we need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps. So, you know, whatever they say, the 40 acres in the mule is the equivalence to the white American. The fact that we can. On paperwork, technically speaking, we can do what the white American can do. We supposed to be equal. That's supposed to be our 40 acres in the mule.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

Okay. But I believe that American black people need some. We don't have a place to go. Like, you know, there's all these things. So anyway, I thought about building a city. It ain't even gotta be a city, I think a town. Not that I still want access to neutral America, but the Afro American doesn't really have a place to go. Now, there's another thing I don't, you know, positive black people that don't want their kids being called the N word.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

They don't have a community. In my opinion, like, everybody, you know, you gotta get. There is no sacred place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

To get. Right. So I wanted to make one an anti N word, Afro American community.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That word bothers you, huh?

[Afroman]

It does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Well.

[Afroman]

Well, first of all, here's the thing. Here's the thing. It's the most offensive word in the English language.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct?

[Afroman]

All right, now watch this right here. Everybody got freedom of speech. Mm. Everybody, you got the right to say it. But in my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, I got the right to not hear it. That being said, now I'm gonna be logical. When I go to Walmart and the airport, I'm gonna know I'm in neutral territory. And I'm not gonna go crazy if I hear it right. But if I can, there's nothing wrong with me building a place where you

[Shannon Sharpe]

don't have to hear it.

[Afroman]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do they bother you in rap songs? Do you hear. Do you hear it in. I mean. Cause this is in a lot of rap songs. It's in a lot of lyrics, a lot of popular rap songs.

[Afroman]

A lot of it's been going on for years now. I don't like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

If I'm a Laker fan, I don't say fuck the Lakers, okay? Right. I know some. Do, you know, like, if I'm a white man, you know, I don't call myself white trash. Some dudes might do it and they have a little ego and swag to it, but for the most part, you're gonna be pro what you are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

So in my opinion, I don't believe black people ought to address each other with the most offensive word in the English language. Encourage other people to join in and do it also. That's my opinion right now. I understand that outside of my body, the next man is living his life, liberty and his pursuit of happiness. So that's why I'm just talking to you, discussing my plans to live in harmony and around these type of situations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you wanna establish, not just with family or friends, but you want it to be all encompasses. Anybody that wants to come and purchase a piece of property and set up shop. But you want it to be harmonious. You don't want to, you know. No, negative. You don't want negativity. You want to use of the N word. You want people to prosper and to be happy.

[Afroman]

It's like this right here. You got freedom of speech.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

The people that come inside this community, I don't want them to have the desire to use their freedom of speech in that way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You would. Okay, okay.

[Afroman]

And so all we're saying is if you want to use your freedom of speech to use the N word and insult black people and whoever, just do it on the other side of this fence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

And I bought the property. So, you know, it ain't like this ain't like in the middle of Times Square where I'm going to just make anybody in this zone start obeying all these weird rules. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's a realistic compromise. Just a place, just a place to. Just a zone of respect. Just a zone where a young black soul, a young Afro American, he don't have to get contaminated with negativity because random spirits got access to him. A place where he can hear, hey, you're a brother. You are Afro American. You a soul brother. You're a good person. Now, on the other side of this wall, people are going to address you with other things, but you're not that, you know, said the option to give life some good people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Something positive.

[Afroman]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When was the last time you said the N word? Of being called the N word?

[Afroman]

I mean, they. I mean, on the Internet all the time. Yeah. I mean, you know, if I say something and somebody don't like it, you know, here it comes now. When I said it when I was young, when I was young, like 13, 14. And then I think I Even said it after I was 20 on this one song. Yeah, I thought I was so hard for saying it, but I figured other black dudes was gonna buy my tape, right? I didn't, you know, I didn't know, you know, whatever, so. But I kind of cut it out around. I hella slowed it down. I know. I cut it out around 2000.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Wow. That was a conscious decision. You know what? I don't want to be addressed like that. But I also, I don't want to be a part of the stereotype that address another brother in that manner. Because if we say this, if it's taboo for them to use it, let's make it taboo for us to use it.

[Afroman]

I mean, that's the part I don't understand, you know, like, you know, you go and I, I have to acknowledge the fact there are self proclaimed N words. I have to step back and let these brothers exist.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

Okay, Now I'm gonna let them exist, but I am gonna distinguish myself from them. And I love. I do business with them, I do this, that, and the other. But, you know, they get the N word too long. I'm getting my atmosphere. We gonna coexist, you know what I'm saying? But there are self proclaimed N words, so there's got to be other brothers and sisters that feel like I do, and I just need to get where I need to be and create us a space.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is. I think every subculture has a way of relating and talk to each other in a negative term. Negative way. I think gay people, gay and lesbian people talk to each other in their subculture. I think women call each other the B word in their subculture. I think, you know, transgender and things. They talk to each other. And so I don't have Hispanics or whatever, Asian, whatever.

[Afroman]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me. And I loved what you said that that's their freedom of speech. And if that's the way you choose to be, I don't necessarily have to be around it, but I'm okay with that. And that's what I've adopted. If that's the way you want to communicate in your subculture. And I've never been one that's like, man. Well, you called them, Called them a negative term or you called her a negative term. Why can't. Well, I'm not in that subculture. I'm not of that ethnicity. So I. But I've never wanted, I've never liked. Because somebody else said something to somebody, I felt I had the right to say it too. Just because I got Freedom of speech, that's just me. Everybody might not feel that way.

[Afroman]

Hey, there's a thin line between freedom of speech and disturbing the peace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

So you know, you ought to use your freedom of speech to do something important. You want to be civil, okay. You want to actually get some progress with your freedom of speech. You don't wanna insult somebody and then they beat you up or kill you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, the freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence, you know, See, you

[Afroman]

got freedom of speech, but there is no windshield between your face and that man fist. And we gonna have to holler at you later after we get that dude off your ass. So there's a thin line between disturbing the peace and freedom of speech. So you know, people use their freedom of speech to antagonize people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

You know, like you got that. But don't cry when you get what come with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

You know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Afroman]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you also own property. Oklahoma, California, Mississippi. Why is it so important for you to own property? And that's a great thing. I mean that you own property in all these places. Do you just have homes or you just. If that's something you want to build a community in all these places.

[Afroman]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I want to know where the anti N word Afro Americans are, you know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna have a sign up?

[Afroman]

I mean, you know, we may not have to do it like that, you know what I'm saying? But what's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Afroman]

What's wrong with me pursuing my happiness?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

I'm not happy with people just randomly approaching me using the N word. And it's all good. I'm not gonna go crazy. But I gotta thin that out to the point where that's okay, you know what I'm saying? That can't be all day every day, you know? And they send you to anger management, right? I gotta manage my anger. So we just need a little space.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You lived in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, what was that like? At what age were you in Hattiesburg?

[Afroman]

It was gonna probably be like 8, 9, 10, 11.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that was what, late 80s?

[Afroman]

Yes sir. Like mid to late 80s.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so what? So what? So what was it like? What was it like for somewhere between an 8 and a 12 year old growing up in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

[Afroman]

Good times. We had a lot of fields and we used to like to play football. You know, everybody mama wake up and cook, feed them. Now she gotta wash the dishes and clean the house and just. So everybody mama Kick em out the house, right? And we had a. We all lived around these big fields, okay? So we played football and you know, soon as you come out the house, you own they team, you know, and I was the only child, so I had a lot of fun in Hattiesburg with all them kids and them big fields. All we needed was one football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Afroman]

And by 22 people could, you know, have a good time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Afroman]

Chicken is one of our major exports. So, you know, fried chicken. Now I will say this as a 51 year old, now that I look at the whole thing, okay, the Gulf is a splash off of New Orleans. If you threw a rock and it landed in New Orleans, all those little waves, ripples is, it's like Mobile is a baby New Orleans, you know, Gulfport, Mississippi, you know, it all got there. You start seeing them little funny little French little balconies and stuff. So, so seafood is a good, you know, you know, so Cajun food is always an option. You can always, you know, get you some gumbo. But then, you know, there's that good old, you know, you know, American soul food and country food, whatever you want to call it, right? You know, you can get you some collard greens and some fried chicken and you know, that's what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did your, your mom or your grandparents, did they allow you to cook? Can you cook?

[Afroman]

I got my dishes. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna just, you know, you

[Shannon Sharpe]

ain't about to go to the kitchen just talking about. I was whip this up for y'. All.

[Afroman]

I mean. I will. I will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what you cooking?

[Afroman]

Okay. I cook the best shrimp fried rice in the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

Amen. Let's see here. I can barbecue wings really good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

I can barbecue ribeyes really good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like on the grill or on the stove?

[Afroman]

I like a charcoal grill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You like charcoal? Okay. You ain't with that gas?

[Afroman]

Nah. Either we barbecuing or we gonna go in the house. What we doin where we at? Yeah, they come out here. You brought the house out here with the tank.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

We might as well go in the house and use the stove, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I got how you made. Because I got. You made that song in Mississippi and it's still popular today. Tell me what was going through your mind. Cause it's interesting. Cause now that I got you here and you got all these anthems, I wanna know, at the time of you making that song, what was going through your head?

[Afroman]

I remember I was gonna clean up my room and I was selling my CDs and stuff. So, like, kids would come over my house and they'd buy them from me cheap and they'd go flip em, you know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you hustling there. I'm hustling you.

[Afroman]

Hey, hey. That's how the world work. Wholesale, retail, you can't have. You know, the little man need to eat or else what's his. He ain't gonna come holler at you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

Right on. So, you know, I was just trying to get mine. I was trying to stay. It was working for me. So he came over, he wanted some CDs. He wanted to smoke a blunt before he left. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna smoke a blunt. It was a polite way to get rid of him. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, all right, I'm gonna smoke this blunt with you. So he said, man, you gotta hear this song. So it was Pimp C. And it was one day, you hear, then you're gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

Then it start. And it was one of the mood changes. And the dude sounded like Al Green just came on. It was like, bow wow wow, wow wow. He said, one day you're here and then you go. And, man, it was depressing, but it was good. It was real. By how you can be alive today and be dead tomorrow. And it was just taking. We was hitting that weed and, you know, that song was beating. And we kept playing it over and over. I just got into it. We got to talking. Then some girls Came over, had some beers.

[Ad Council Representative]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All this at your mom house?

[Afroman]

No, I didn't stay with my mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

Yeah, that was my. My dad moved to the country and he rented that house to me. All I had to do was, you know, pay the land taxes and this, that, and the other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How old were you at this point?

[Afroman]

I'm like. I'm like 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay. Because for a second I thought you, like, you were still like a teenager or something.

[Afroman]

No, no, this. Because I got high. I'm 51, so I was 20 something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay.

[Afroman]

That was about 25 years. 26. 20. Yeah. So I took and they came up, we got the drinking. Long story short, I didn't get nothing done right? And I was like, I was gonna clean up today. And I was like, man, I got high with that dude. Started playing that music and got drinking them beers, and none of this stuff got done. Then I started looking at other stuff, and then I started writing them little song, little verses and everything, put it together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So at what age did you decide that you wanted to become a rapper?

[Afroman]

That's gonna be 12.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so who were some of your influences?

[Afroman]

I loved the whole game at first. I was fascinated by any man that could talk while he could rhyme while he talked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So KRS1, Eric B.

[Afroman]

And before KRS1, you know, like, it was Houdini.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Afroman]

Houdini was my first introduction into hip hop. It used to be this dude, like, my people was church people, so we couldn't play what they call secular music. So, like, this dude had a radio, and he had walked by my house to go to the store and get him a big goat. And the only rap music I could hear was when this dude walked by my house with that radio.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You was next to a circle, Katie, huh?

[Afroman]

Nah, it was a junior food market down in the south back there. I don't know if you ever seen them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. In Ocanjo.

[Afroman]

All right. But it was Houdini. It was Five Minutes to Funk. I remember I'd be sitting in my room, and I could hear that through the window. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I get up, start running through the house, dun dun. And I hit the yard and I cheer him on. And he'd always shake my hand with the mic, like, yeah. You know, he always made sure he walked by my house for me. Play that Houdini, you know, Freaks come out at night friends.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you credit Howard Stearns for making Because I Got High popular how?

[Afroman]

You know, I thank him for throwing a Big stick on the fire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Afroman]

But because I got high made itself popular on that first form of YouTube called Napster.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

You know, I wasn't hip to it back then, but everybody else was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did he hear about the song?

[Afroman]

He got it off of Napster because he didn't buy it from me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but you was nominated for a Grammy for that song, right?

[Afroman]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, I mean, you were in the same category as Missy, get your freak on. She won. Dmx, who we be? Jay Hov was in there. Izzo, Nelly, ride with me, boy. There's some heavy hitters and they like, damn. But the mere fact that that little song. A kid from. You were in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and they got those big, big conglomerates pushing them and you sitting at the table with them.

[Afroman]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did that make you feel then? You like, okay, this is what I'm supposed to do.

[Afroman]

Back then I was mad cause I didn't win it. But as an old man, I'm smiling from ear to ear like, damn. All right, we good? You know my nomination is cool, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Soulja Boy claims he's the first viral rapper on the Internet. But you before Soulja Boy, that was.

[Afroman]

Yeah, you know, God bless him. I think he from Mississippi. You know, he younger and, you know, you know, he can. God bless him. He push his fame and make his money, you know. But, you know, I'm older than I remember. My kids came in the room and told me about Soulja Boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Afroman]

My kid. Hey, daddy. They said they were doing you crank. They was doing a Superman and Batman crankdad. Yeah, they was enjoying it. You know, I was happy to see them enjoying it. I'd play it with him, but I came out in 2000, and mine hit around 2000, 2001. So, you know, I think he was like 2005 or something like that right there. Six or something like that. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your music spiked after the defamation lawsuit. Did you ever think that? Cause, like, a lot of times, I mean, we get this a lot. Like when entertainers, when they perform at the super bowl, all of a sudden they get this huge spike in their music. Where people have, you know, they knew who they are, they've been doing their thing, but they get a huge spike, especially in a lot of their old stuff. And even their new stuff, it spikes. Did you think this would happen with you?

[Afroman]

Yes. Yes. I call myself the male Tina Turner. Got a skeleton leg and a stiletto head look like a shocked like I got stuck but what's love got to do with this. I'm back, baby. And I knew. I always loved the way she came back as an old woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause once that movie came out, what's Love Got to Do with all her old stuff? Private, you know.

[Afroman]

But you know, that song came out before that movie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that song was in like in the 80s. Yeah, 1984, I think.

[Afroman]

There's something I get, I get as a musician, I get this spark of positivity and hope when she come out. Cause I didn't know her. I don't like, I don't like all the, you know, I came on the scene with what's Love Got To Do

[Shannon Sharpe]

with it and Private Dancer, all those songs.

[Afroman]

Well, you know, I, you know, so I just, I just. Tina Turner taught me, damn it. It ain't over until it's blankety blank over, right? So every time I get depressed, I always play what's Love Gotta Do With It.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So there's songs to upload. So every time they play em on Spotify and YouTube, you get a little kickback, huh?

[Afroman]

You know, whatever that is, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people complain about that hair fraction of a penny, you know, Jesus said it's better to give than it is to receive. You know, I remember they'll play a rapper song free on the radio, right? But then that helped, you know, it was out, right? So that helped the rapper get the word out that his records were so, you know, like, it all balanced out in my mind. Like, if I don't get it from the record company, I'm gonna get it from the concerts. If I don't get it from the concerts, I'll get it from. I'm gonna get it somewhere, you know, you can't keep it from me, right? It's gonna come to me some kind of crazy way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But in the beginning, you know, you had to pay radio stations. I mean, they would play the radio station to spin yours and so to play your records.

[Afroman]

But here's the thing. Watch this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[Afroman]

I didn't have to pay nobody to put out because I got high. If it's good enough, you can't stop it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that.

[Afroman]

I didn't pay no promote. And later on in life I was paying people to position my records in front of the store. Couldn't verify that they was doing it this, that and the other. And then I thought, I told myself I didn't have to do that because I got high, because like I did that by itself. So that's just a hustle and a rip. Off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But your music video beat Taylor Smith and Bruno Mars on YouTube.

[Afroman]

I don't know about that, but it sound good. Hey, a couple sips of this. I like the way that sound. I just like the way that sound. I don't know if that's true, right? But this cup and me, we just like the way that sounds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Afroman]

Not like that. Not like, not like this. Not like that. I know. Like, I know it was interesting in my Afroman world. So, like, I had. I averaged 13 comments, you know, 1320. You know, I'm like, all right. I get up in the 40s and 50s. You know, you feel good, man. I started doing cabbage patch and everything. Like, man, all right, you know what I'm saying? So I knew. I didn't think it would blow up like this because I've been trying to run my followers up for years. But just the police officers announcing that they were suing me. That outraged the world to the point where they was just interested. Like, the police was bringing me the numbers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Help the people that don't really didn't follow this case or understand the case. The police raided your home because they thought you were a drug dealer. You had something going on. What brought the police to your residence?

[Afroman]

An unconfidential informant told the police she got busted with some whatever she had right to get out of that. She started making up stories about me, okay? She told them that I had a dungeon and I had kidnapping victims, and she told them that I had a lot of weed, like, whatever, and that's what they came looking for. You know, their excuse was we had to get the kidnapping victims out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Afroman]

So we gotta move right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Life and death situation to come in.

[Afroman]

Then he got, you know, a pyramid of marijuana.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

And then, you know, so by her saying that, you know, they. You know, that came immediately that got the cuffs off of her, and they jumped in their cars and came around there and, you know, kicked down my door.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you have, like. So you have surveillance. You got cameras watching your property and all that. So when they get in, did you see them coming? Could you see them on your.

[Afroman]

When I backed it up, you know, I wasn't riding around looking at my surveillance cameras being another boring day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you weren't home. Were you home when they came?

[Afroman]

I was not.

[Ad Council Representative]

Oh,

[Shannon Sharpe]

so how did you know they were there? So when you looked at your camera. When you looked at your.

[Afroman]

Yeah, I got the call that they were swarming all around the house. And then I pulled off the freeway, pulled in the speedway, got me a big Mountain Dew, big goat. I opened that door through that Seato recliner, hit my little app, and, you know, started checking them out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could you talk to him? Could you. Could you. Can you.

[Afroman]

I didn't have that one set up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

You know, I'm. You know, I'm. I'm new to the video era. I'm just happy. I just want to see who took whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay. So now you. Okay, you get the call. Hey, hey, bro. They got cop cars everywhere. I don't know what you did or what you said, but they are here. You need to get home. So you get your mouth and do big up. You head to the crib.

[Afroman]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get there and they say, what?

[Afroman]

I don't head nowhere. I stay right there in that speedway place. I. Sipping that motherfucking Mountain Dew.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't go home right now?

[Afroman]

I don't talk to people with AR15s, okay? I talk to people with cognac and weed and women and music. I don't talk to people running around with arp. That's not the guy I want to see today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so at what point? When did you get home? And were they still there when you got home?

[Afroman]

No, I made sure they was gone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, but you knew they Were coming back for what? Well, they wanted to see what a dungeon was.

[Afroman]

They searched the house. It was no dungeon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about the weed?

[Afroman]

It wasn't no weed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So there was no dungeon. There was no weed.

[Afroman]

No weed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so what was the. So what was the issue? So did they offer you an apology? I'm sorry.

[Afroman]

No, no. We see it all the time. People pick up the phone and give the police, like, a fake call. Yeah, we see it. Oh, I'm being attacked. Oh, this, that and the other. I'm this. Oh, but this one, it wasn't that kind of lie. It was a different type of lie. It was a lie of, hey, right, let me out of this, and I'll tell you about something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it was a lie that still could have got someone hurt.

[Afroman]

Yes, yes. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I can imagine if you were home, I'm like, bro, police. Ain't nobody call y'. All. And when we call you, sometimes you take forever to get here. Now all of a sudden you show up unprompted.

[Afroman]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you said they kicked you, they broke your door down. You probably gonna feel some type of way, you expecting. I mean, door fly off the hinges, you might grab the piece and then boom. All that because somebody told a lie. And then, unfortunately, life is. Life is lost.

[Afroman]

And what I don't like is to this day, there's no punishment for her giving them false information and making all of this jump off. You see what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about. So have they repaired the door?

[Afroman]

Indirectly, with they ass, thanks to me. Yeah, they, you know, they inspired the money and, you know, I gotta get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me. So, Okay, Y' all do this to me, okay? First of all, you raid my house, you believe somebody that had something to gain from this to get out of that, they put me into it, which wasn't true. So, you know what. So how did you come up with this? You know what? I know what I'm gonna do. I got something for y'.

[Afroman]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did you come up with these anthems that, you know, the lemon pound

[Afroman]

cake and all this, Man, I've been doing it for years. You know, I started rapping at 12.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Afroman]

Yeah, it was a girl bully. She was cute. She had brand new clothes on. And, you know, my parents, we was back from Mississippi, and my dad didn't believe in $50 tennis shoes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no.

[Afroman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, your boy. Get out of here. Get them pro kids. Yeah. You know, and so these little LA kids was wild. They was. You know, they had feliz on and dad wasn't finna buy me them. And I had old ringers. And so she picked on. She stood by the gate, her and her loud homegirls. And they picked on everybody. Raggedy. So she was light skinned. And her, she had a slight mustache. Yeah, yeah, she was cute. It fell in just right. It was, you know, I kiss her, she's still cute, but she had a little mustache. Her name was cute. So Lottie Dottie was a hot song, okay? And I wrote my first rap song. Instead of Lottie Dottie, I wrote Harry Carrie. So Slick Ricky say something. I listen to him. I kind of write mine. Kind of figured out how to structure it and everything, right? So I wrote it, memorized it. So went to school, she said something to me. And like I always say, rapping was a craze. You attempt to do it, people gather around like a fight. I jumped up. I was like, I was doing my little Dougie. I was doing my Slick Rick part. I'm like, all right, elementary school, my buddy was beatboxing, doing like the Dougie Fresh part. And so I was like, Harry Carey. And you remember them old men, they say when you go down on a woman, it make you put hair on your face. You know what I'm saying? So I said, harry Carey ate her own cherry. That's why her lips are very, very. And you know, that was good to go in 80. And so her name to this day is Harry Carey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, come on, you don't stuck that young lady with that name.

[Afroman]

It started back just like a serial killer. After I think about, I'm a serial rapper. It started with Harry Carey, right? Then I had my eighth grade teacher, this kid, you know, I had to move out of South Central. I'm living up there in Palmdale. I'm going to school with the little white kids. You know, they gonna slip me a racial joke. But I noticed how they was good. They'd give one, but they'd take one, right? So we was good. So I'm sitting in class. So this one kid goes, hey, Joby. That's what he used to call me back then. He goes, he goes, what do you call a black smurf? He goes, smigger. And so it was funny. I laughed as I was laughing. I flipped him off, right? She sends, she sends me to the office for flipping him off, right? But she don't send him to the office for telling the smiggle joke. So I get mad at her. I go home and make a rap song about her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Afroman]

Yeah, Then that was my next hit. Then the little Palmdale kids was buying my Miss Dobler tape. I made a song called Miss Dobler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got. So, okay, you make lemon pound cake. Will you help me repair my door? The police raid. Why you disconnected my camera. Randy Waters is a son of a bee. So I'm just like. So were you surprised when they said, you know what, we filed a defamation suit against you. Were you surprised that they went to this level to get retribution against you even though they were wrong in the first place?

[Afroman]

Yeah, okay. Yes. And I'm gonna tell you, I was surprised on so many levels. First of all, before I get to running my mouth and lose too much time, I was surprised at the fact that they let me know it hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[Afroman]

Now, we learned that lesson as little kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't let em know.

[Afroman]

Don't let em know it hurt.

[Discover Card Advertiser]

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[Afroman]

Man. And I'm a rapper. I'm like, what you would they suing me over some post and a song about a man looking at a pound cake. I ain't even got started yet, you know? So I was like, you ever seen that movie Lionheart? Yeah. Remember when he. He hit him. Lionheart. Toward the end, Lionheart was fighting with them broke ribs. And that big dude, he was just bouncing around, he tapped them ribs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's where you heard that, huh?

[Afroman]

I was surprised. Some big bad cops let me see where it hurt. And I was surprised that words was hurting them. Cause I'm like, I'm hurting from reality. The reality of them kicking down my door, running through my house with guns, and I can't answer that. My answer to them violating me like that is a rap song, you know, that's what's embarrassing and hurtful to me. But with all of this power, with all of this authority, they can't stay on that pedestal. They're going to let my peasant words

[Shannon Sharpe]

hurt them, impact them.

[Afroman]

Yeah, that's the part that surprised me. And then all of the other parts, like, you raid my house, you steal my money, you disconnect my cameras, and then you sue me when I say something about it. The audacity, the outrage, the spectacle. And then as I tripped, I realized the world was tripping with me. And that's when I cracked the smile. You know, when you go in the wrong direction, you can't turn around soon enough, you look at your gps, that blue line going back the other way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need to make a U turn. I can't make a U turn.

[Afroman]

And I'm looking at him They've been going the wrong direction for four, three, four, five years. And I knew it, you know, but they, they didn't know it. They can't. You know, when you mess up, you know, it's best to take that deep breath, say, hey, I'm sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Afroman]

And get that over with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Afroman]

Don't keep that going, right, because you're wrong and you're going the wrong way. But they messed up, they doubled down, they didn't care. And they just splashed and they puddle around, right? You know, suing me, stealing my money, all that good stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you get the money back?

[Afroman]

No, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why haven't you gotten the money back? Or they say they're gonna compensate you?

[Afroman]

They haven't made no kind of plan. I still gotta go after them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But there was a deputy on camera checking out the cake and said he received hundreds of pound cakes at work from different people. So you had a cake on the table in the kitchen and he was over there and you could see him

[Afroman]

looking at the cake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You could see him. Did he cut a slice? Did he get.

[Afroman]

The cameras got disconnected and the cake came up missing too. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Afroman]

I demand we reopen this investigation, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know damn well they ain't take your cake out, man.

[Afroman]

Where is it at? Where is it at, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought cops like donuts. They don't like cake, man.

[Afroman]

These some Ohio cops, they done switched it up a little bit, man. These some country cops, man. They like that. They like mama's lemon pound cake, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But listen to a little bit of the trial. And they was like, well, he said this and people said. And one guy was talking about how his kids asked was his wife cheating on him and things like that. And I'm like, really? They really behaved.

[Afroman]

Hey, watch this right here. Watch this. Would the world know one of the cops had a pedophile brother and he's a statutory rapist? If he hadn't sued me, would they know that? No, no. Would the world know that one of the cops is married to an ex convict thief? If they had not tried to sue me. No, no. Would the world know that Sean Grooms blamed his divorce on me and his wife was my only witness? That contradicted his whole story if he had not tried to sue me? No. These are self inflicted wounds on their.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, because they're on discovery.

[Afroman]

They brought this on them. They exposed themselves to the whole world being wrong. Honoree and greedy. If they would have just said, hey, man, if they hadn't even apologized. If they would have just left and just shut up and let me sing my little songs. If they just would have shut up, it would have went away. You know, they brought attention to it by reacting to it. They let me know it hurt. Then they let the world know it hurt. I didn't mail those pound cakes to them. The world know it hurt. The world messing with them. They just like that dude on Lionheart. They see that broke rib.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they did wrong. And instead of apologizing for the wrong, they tried to go after compensation from you to try to.

[Afroman]

They trying to let they bullying me. They let me know, hey, we're wrong, we're bad, we're the government and you can't do nothing about it. That's their message to me. But the problem was they did that live stream in front of the world. Now you can do that to me in an alley with nobody looking. That's what they're accustomed to doing, correct? What they didn't realize was they was doing this in front of the whole world. And it's different when the whole world's watching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.

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[Afroman]

It just came out. Jeremy, what did you just do? You just set yourself up for failure.

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[Afroman]

I've never told this story.

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