Club Shay Shay - Ali Siddiq Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Ali Siddiq Part 1
Release Date: May 7, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: Ali Siddiq, renowned comedian and storyteller

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Introduction

In this compelling episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe engages in an in-depth conversation with one of the internet's most popular comedians, Ali Siddiq. Known for his sharp wit and authentic storytelling, Ali delves into his life's triumphs, struggles, and the lessons he's learned along the way.

Personal Background

Ali Siddiq opens up about his upbringing in Houston, shedding light on his early aspirations and the environment that shaped him. He shares, “[00:00] Ali Siddiq: You’re listening to an iHeart podcast...” before diving into his personal journey.

Street Life and Fighting

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Ali’s experiences with street life and conflict. He recounts instances of being underestimated due to his stature and how he handles aggression:

• “[05:10] Ali Siddiq: I have done it several times. My whole team is here because they know I generally get into it with athletes.”

Ali emphasizes his reluctance to start fights but his unwavering resolve when provoked:

• “[12:03] Ali Siddiq: There is no person that ever got in a fight with me that want to fight me again.”

Alcohol and Its Impact

Ali candidly discusses his relationship with alcohol, particularly Hennessy, and its influence on his behavior. He shares a vivid story of a night out that led to unintended confrontations:

• “[13:03] Ali Siddiq: I'm just saying, I was on that Hennessy. It wasn't me. Saw her again on Tom Cruise… I was wild on that Hennessy.”

Shannon reflects on Ali's transformation and his current stance on drinking:

• “[18:14] Shannon Sharpe: You drink anything now or you don't drink at all. Or you get away from the brown.”

Cultural Critique: Drake and Hip Hop

Ali offers a critical perspective on contemporary hip hop, specifically targeting Drake's authenticity and homage to Houston's unique styles:

• “[22:29] Ali Siddiq: I'm just saying he's not like us.”

He elaborates on the importance of staying true to one’s roots and the consequences of cultural appropriation:

• “[23:31] Ali Siddiq: I don't know who all this man helped. I'm in my own world.”

Relationships and Style

The conversation shifts to Ali's interactions with celebrities and his distinctive style. He recounts his encounter with Shaquille O’Neal and his frustrations with artists copying his fashion:

• “[20:50] Ali Siddiq: I need to meet like I… Everybody from the H that I want to meet.”

Ali criticizes the lack of originality among new artists and his experiences with style theft:

• “[90:45] Ali Siddiq: You have to put deposits in their spiritual bank account. They finance… But what about your spiritual bank account?”

Family and Upbringing

Ali provides a heartfelt account of his family dynamics and the impact of his father’s absence. He speaks passionately about the role of his grandmothers in instilling work ethic and resilience:

• “[85:54] Ali Siddiq: Both of them, my dad's mom and my mom's mom… taught me how to garden, taught me how to grow stuff, gave me work ethic…”

He reflects on the scars left by childhood trauma and his determination to shield his own children from similar experiences:

• “[51:21] Ali Siddiq: A chef. A Navy SEAL. I start cooking the wrong things…”

Experiences in Prison

Ali does not shy away from discussing his time in prison, detailing the harsh realities and the psychological toll it took on him. He shares poignant insights into the prison system and its dehumanizing effects:

• “[56:26] Ali Siddiq: I was a judicial slave and I know it from the jump.”

He expresses deep remorse for his past actions and emphasizes the importance of honoring one’s ancestors:

• “[97:56] Ali Siddiq: How many of us actually died in that slave trade? But then we got the audacity. Want to kill each other or say the history don't matter.”

Reflections and Life Lessons

Throughout the episode, Ali intertwines humor with profound reflections on life, community, and personal growth. He stresses the significance of authentic relationships and the dangers of internalizing societal pressures:

• “[108:20] Ali Siddiq: Predators know when no father's around…”

Shannon and Ali conclude the first half by acknowledging the evolving nature of culture and the importance of staying true to oneself:

• “[114:23] Shannon Sharpe: That's why you with the cornerback, huh?”

Notable Quotes

• Ali Siddiq ([12:04]): "There is no person that ever got in a fight with me that want to fight me again."
• Ali Siddiq ([22:29]): "I'm just saying he's not like us."
• Ali Siddiq ([85:54]): "Both of them, my dad's mom and my mom's mom… taught me how to garden, taught me how to grow stuff, gave me work ethic…"

Conclusion

This first part of Shannon Sharpe’s Club Shay Shay with Ali Siddiq offers a raw and unfiltered look into Ali’s life, his battles, and his unwavering commitment to authenticity. From his struggles with alcohol and street life to his reflections on culture and family, Ali provides listeners with valuable insights and a testament to resilience. Tune in to Part 2 for more of Ali Siddiq’s captivating stories and wisdom.

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Note: Part two of this episode is available on all major podcast platforms under the Club Shay Shay profile.

Transcript

[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm going to get you and cat together, have a conversation, I'm going to be there. I don't trust you.

[Ali Sadiq]

I agree with you and I shouldn't be trusted? Yeah, cuz I know if you own some unmanly with me I'm a sock yo all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got the roll a dice that's why all my life I be grinding all my life look all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shay. I am your host Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay. Today we are helis playground at Resorts world Las Vegas. Stopping by for conversation on a drink today is one of the Internet's most popular comedian. He has one of the most watched comedy special ever on YouTube. He was once named Comedy central's number one comic to watch. The New York Times called him the comedy's best storyteller. A highly acclaimed veteran of standup, prolific writer, successful entrepreneur, a confident artist, a comedic genius, a great orator, commentator, producer, host, author, public speaker that tours nationwide. Coming all the way from H town, let's give it up for Comics comic Mr. Ali Sadiq.

[Ali Sadiq]

How you doing my brother?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate you stopping by, brother.

[Ali Sadiq]

H town, how was that? That was great, man. That was great. You put a lot in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We like to make sure we give our guests when they come, they take time out of their busy schedule to grace us with their presence. We want to make sure we give them what they've earned. Not what you deserve, but what you've earned. And everything that I read off this card, you've earned it, bro.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yes, sir, brother. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you got off that brown a little while ago. So we go, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, I can. Man, that brown is different, man. That brown is different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, I thought it was the gin. Cause see, when I was growing up, people tried to. People don't. They got angry when they was on that Seagram, that Tangare. Then it turned into that Bombay, that beef eaters, that. That Gordon's. But now it's the brown, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's that Hennessy. All, all that brown is. Is difficult. You know what I'm saying? Look, I'm telling you that brown is different, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's different.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's different. It give you a little.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It give you extra boost. You like just want to fight, huh?

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, I don't. Was you on that brown when you was with them Memphis Grizzlies?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, if I was on that brown, it went down. It's supposed to be lying to you.

[Ali Sadiq]

Let me tell you something. I don't know. You had on an oversized sweater. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And your back muscles were still showing on the tv. I said, man, this is what they don't want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I went dark, man. You ever been in a situation where you go dark? Like, I don't remember a whole lot. I just remember getting back. The security took me back, and it's like, you okay? You okay? Uh, you okay? And I remember thinking to myself, why y'all keep asking me, am I okay?

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, man. Cause when I don't know if you. Did you go back and watch it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I really haven't paid attention. I hadn't watched it.

[Ali Sadiq]

No. You got up and I'm. This game is live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

What is y'all doing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I don't know what was said to you, but you didn't agree with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I forgot.

[Ali Sadiq]

I forgot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, sometimes you forget, you in public that you say something, you're like, damn, I shouldn't say something.

[Ali Sadiq]

I said that. I've done it several times. You know, my whole team is here because they know I generally get into it with athletes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Ali Sadiq]

Cause y'all be tripping. How, man? Man, you know, y'all aggressive. No, man, I done got into it with so many athletes that I'm getting ready to do a special called conflict. That's how many athletes I done got into with. Just cause job. Like, somebody asks you for a picture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

Are you a picture taker?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It all depends on how much time.

[Ali Sadiq]

I got on where you at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, right.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I'm like that as well. So the thing. I don't like taking pictures when I'm with my kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

If I'm out with my family, man, going on. You see, I'm out with my family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I understand that, but if you in the luggage store.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I see you, man, me and Patrick Ewing. I see Pat. I'm a big fan. I had the Ewings and everything. The big situation with a 33 on the back. I said, excuse me, miss. You think I can get a picture? That man looked at me like I was small. Even though I'm small.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And. And I walked out. The luggage store felt even smaller, and I couldn't. I couldn't take it. I came right back in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. See, you doing too much, Ollie. What you doing too Much.

[Ali Sadiq]

I had to come back in there and let him know how I felt. I had them big shoes, man. You gonna take this with me? I had that part when you was in Georgetown, man. I thought I went off on Pat, and he was looking at me like, what is wrong with little daddy, man? Cause you ain't want to take no picture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he take a picture?

[Ali Sadiq]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Security put me out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were doing too much.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm getting escorted out of the Galleria, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you get escorted out of a.

[Ali Sadiq]

Luggage store messing with Pat, Messing with Patrick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but sometimes fans do do too much. I was at. Where was I at JFK last week. And a dude just walked up to me, put his arm around me, said, let's get this selfie.

[Ali Sadiq]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't ask, excuse me, Mr. Sharp, can we take a picture together? Or sometimes they just get rude with it. We gonna take this picture, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

We are this Nigerian brother in the Adidas store. I'm in the Adidas store. That man hugged me. I said, bruh, let me go before I bite you in your face. He's not. You just have to bite me. I'm a huge fan, man. I said, bruh, this boy. And I couldn't do nothing. Cause he was. He was. He had. I don't even know why my arms was down. I don't even know why they was down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you say you get on that. Things happen. When you were younger, you just. And you say that's all you drank, was a double shot of that.

[Ali Sadiq]

Double shots of hennies. I never had a single shot. I started with doubles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't have it on the rocks?

[Ali Sadiq]

Nah, straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. You drinking Warm Hands?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yes.

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Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You trying to do something. You're trying to test some stuff.

[Ali Sadiq]

Up is the bar. Do it come. Is it still.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why you gotta get. Put it on the rocks. You gotta take some of that bite out of it.

[Ali Sadiq]

Okay. If it's on the rocks, what's the difference gonna make?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a little cooler.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, it ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a little cooler. I'm telling you. No, I'm telling you, it's a little cooler.

[Ali Sadiq]

I've been drinking Hennessy. I used to drink Hennessy. I'm talking about since I was. I think I started. That was my first. Right now, St. Ives. Now, I drank a lot of things. That Thunderbird with Kool Aid in it, I think it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, we really didn't have no money back then. Cause you drinking a Thunderbird.

[Ali Sadiq]

Green bottle. Green bottle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the price a dollar twice.

[Ali Sadiq]

Mad Dog 20. 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And man, that wasn't winos was drinking no olives.

[Ali Sadiq]

But that. What else? I didn't know nobody. I didn't know no other drinks. You get that Jubilee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Ali Sadiq]

The Jubilee and that. Go live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

Then you start drinking. I remember they came out with the 64 beers. At first, I was just drinking a 40, you know what I'm saying? Then my partner would drink a 40. Then put J. What? J.W. weller's in there. J.B. weller. He'll put that. It's a boilermaker. Now we drinking beer and liquor at the same time. So that's what really St. Ives was. Man, I used to be. I used to be tow up. I used to be toe. And I had to apologize to somebody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you drank it. You as a man, that's small in stature. You drinking like you six, eight.

[Ali Sadiq]

Hold on, Shannon. What you mean small and stats. But I'm saying I'm a big dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I will give you. I will be generous. I'm gonna give you five, six, five, seven. But you drink like you.

[Ali Sadiq]

I need that extra like 5, 7. But I was what, 133? Nah, I wasn't there. I wasn't that when I went to prison. I buy115.120. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you out there trying to boss up man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Shane. I was. I was a. But see, that's the thing. When you box, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so you a boxer?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah. Okay, so it. I. I really never been scared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you sweet with them hands, huh?

[Ali Sadiq]

Nice with them. And my feet. See, boxing is in the feet. Yeah, but see, the thing is, when you know that you ain't scared of nobody. I had a grandmother that wouldn't let you run from nothing. So you had to. You ain't no running, right? So you got the box. So it don't matter the numbers. Cause my grandmother, man, I remember these guys were trying to jump on me. And I went home. My sister was like, what's wrong with you? I said, some boys out there trying to jump on me. My sister said, you gotta go back out there, Huh? I said. I said, did you hear what I said? Some boys is trying to jump on me, right? She called my grandma. My grandma, I get on the phone, said, put him on the phone. I said, what's going on? You tell me what's going on? I see some boys out there trying to jump on me. She said, how many is it? I said, about 8. They scared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause there's that many of them.

[Ali Sadiq]

I Said what? They scared? How many. How many do you have? I said, just me. He said, they scared. Now you go out there and you show them why they shouldn't be with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And my sister, she gas you up with her.

[Ali Sadiq]

Not that my sister walked out there with me and said, hey, I ain't gonna let nobody get behind you. And she was right. They were scared. See, if you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once you teed off on one of.

[Ali Sadiq]

Them, oh, no, don't even run, because I'm chasing you down. Now, my thing is, if you got a bunch of people with you, you only talking because you got a bunch of people. Just like with dudes with all these crews. If I show up, I got a problem with you, I'm gonna show up by myself and. And we gonna. We gonna dance. I don't care how many people you got with you because you're scared. Not me. You know what I'm saying? I done lost before and I done won before, so I don't have no rules of that. There's no person that ever got in a fight with me that want to fight me again. Even if they. Even if they won, they don't want to fight me again. They like, nah, I'm cool. I'm cool. That. That. Cuz that's a hard way to go. So when I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a hard W, huh? Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

When I went to. When I went to prison. Oh, man, I'm in your mouth so fast. They like, yo, little daddy right there got them hands, bro. And I'm. And I'm like, I'm 51 now and I'm still in the gym.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You still in the gym?

[Ali Sadiq]

Getting it in. Still in the gym. Getting it in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what was the craziest night? Okay, you normally be on that hand. So what's the craziest thing that happened to you one night?

[Ali Sadiq]

Oh, man, I gotta apologize to Carl Thomas, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Not Carl Martin.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, that's Carl Payne. Okay, Carl Thomas, the singer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on. How you beat up?

[Ali Sadiq]

I didn't beat up Carl Thomas. I didn't beat up Carl Thomas. Carl Thomas. I am. This is how crazy it was. I'm host. I'm at this club called the Roxy, and they get me to host this concert. Carl Thomas is in concert, and they. They in. In the thing, in the rules, Ali, you cannot have a drink until after 12 o'clock because they know I used to be on them double shots of Henny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Oh, my partner Steve Nice is DJing, and Carl is supposed to be on at 11 o'clock. So I ain't drink nothing. 12 o'clock come, I ain't drink nothing. Cars show up late. 12:15, I start drinking. Car get there at 12:45. I am three, four, doubles down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm in the DJ booth. And I'm in there. I'm lit, too. I'm in there lit fast. I'm lit fast. And I had just performed with Carl Thomas the night before in Dallas. Oh, I ain't say nothing, man. They say, hey, Carl, ready to perform. I go right on stage. Hey, y'all, listen here. Carl is finally here. Mr. Summer Rain, you don't bust a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man out like that.

[Ali Sadiq]

I say, I'm just saying. He finally here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, y'all, getting ready for the concert. Y'all give it up for recording artists Carl Thomas. And he walking on stage. I said, damn, Carl, you got the same Gucci pants on last night. This said, give me this goddamn mic. And I. And I know Frankie Beverly wear the same stuff that white.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bless his soul.

[Ali Sadiq]

Bless his soul. I performed with him a lot, but, man, I didn't have to say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did.

[Ali Sadiq]

I called Time Call. See me two years later in Harlem in this. In this club. My boy doing this club. He wanted. Hey, man, let me introduce you to one of my partners. We walk in, it's Carl Thomas. And Carl, look at me. I don't want. I don't like this. We've made up since. Cause he live in Houston, right, man? Oh, that's my partner now. But he. Remember that night I said that about them Gucci pants. Now, somebody can say that about me now. I wear Gucci all the time, right? But not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not.

[Ali Sadiq]

Not back to back. Not back to back. Not saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you this. What makes people. What makes people get more violent? The double shot of hen or the Mexican margaritas?

[Ali Sadiq]

Double shots of hand, double shots of him. That. That Mexican margarita. I don't know what's in it, but this is a spot in Houston that they won't even serve you more than two of them. That's it. You can't even trick nobody into getting you another one. Oh, it's. It's crazy. And I. I have drank two of them, right? And thought I had left. Thought I had left. Still in that parking lot, sun beaming through that. And this is when I'm. Man, I'm towed down. I don't know what's in it. Everything is in the property. But it's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you this. Were you when you tried to holler at Lil Kim Were you on that double shot hand?

[Ali Sadiq]

I was on that hand full of it. Had a Hennessy iv.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you just walked. So how you. So how you approach Lil Kim, man?

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm. I'm. I'm with. I'm with Bad Boy. DD ain't there. This ain't no Diddy party. We. We in Amnesia in Miami, okay? I've been. I've been. I've been drinking all day. Me, Sean, prayers. GT been. I've been drinking all day. I knew I was tripping because I had came out of Gloria Stefan's restaurant, okay? Walking out and running to Quincy Jones. Grabbed Quincy Jones. Cause he with. He with two bad foreign white girls. And I grabbed that. I said, you look cold as. I got over here to grab Quincy Jones, man. And I'm drinking all day. Get to the spot. Shine is performing. Because this is right before Sean about to go to jail.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

He has a show in Houston coming up the next week. When we leave out, I see Lil Kim, and I had just read in this article that Kim say she like regular dudes. And at this time, I'm a regular dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's you.

[Ali Sadiq]

And, man, I see Kim, I tell my partner, say, hey, finna go holler at Lil Kim. He said, for what? I said, cause she like regular dudes. Everybody bigger than you. I'm coming through. Excuse my partner. Let me slide through. Hey, hey, man, get to this. Big, her biggest. But he got his hand in my chair, say, look, daddy, where you going? I said, I'm gonna holler Kim, she like regular dudes. He started laughing. He said, going on there. I get right over there and say the wildest I ever said in my life. I get right in Kim face. I said, biggie, dad, what we doing? If them didn't sling me out of that club.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord, of all the things you could have said.

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, hey, Kim.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My name is Ollie. I just want to holler at you. How you doing? I heard you like regular dudes. I'm your regular. I'm your guy that you're looking for. That's what you came up with?

[Ali Sadiq]

That's all I had. It was the Hennessy. It wasn't me. I apologize. Kim wasn't me. Saw her again on Tom Jonah Cruise. And Up Mountain was like, ali, don't you start that shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Leave it alone.

[Ali Sadiq]

I said, I don't even drink no more. I only drink that. I don't even drink that. Is it no more. I'm good, man. But she was, man. I was. I was wild on that Hennessy. I was a wild man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You drink anything now or you don't drink at all. Or you get away from the brown. It's just the brown that you stay away from.

[Ali Sadiq]

I stay away from the brown. I like water. But I will partake in a margarita here and there. And don't nobody get in trouble on the margaritas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's tequila and margaritas, not.

[Ali Sadiq]

Not when you had one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But your problem, see, your problem wasn't the double shot, it was the problem. You just couldn't have one double shot.

[Ali Sadiq]

It was 2, 3, 4, double shot. It was the Hennessy. Hennessy is a problem. It's. No. Okay, I'll tell you. Name all the pleasant stories you ever heard on Hennessy. All Hennessy stories. Always. Man, I almost died last night. All of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hey, you want to come out your clothes and fight now? For sure.

[Ali Sadiq]

And why you got to take your clothes off when you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know how we do. We got to come up out the shirt. So you sweating, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

See, that's the problem. You sweating. The liquor's in your pores now. Now you're extra violent. Can't nobody talk to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Being from H town.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, look at Beyonce, Travis Scott, I mean, all the guys. I mean, is there anybody from like Houston that you haven't met that you would like to meet or you done met everybody? Cause that's where you. That's your doc.

[Ali Sadiq]

Anybody from Houston that I would like to meet? That's from the H. You probably done met everybody. No, I don't think nobody from the H. I would, I would. I need to meet like I. Everybody from the H. Like everybody that I want to meet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, man. Andre Johnson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you always want to. You like athletes but want to fight them?

[Ali Sadiq]

I don't want to fight all the athletes, the ones who be tripping just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they don't want to take no picture with you, they tripping.

[Ali Sadiq]

It ain't about the picture. It's about sometimes people's mouth get them in trouble. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They underestimate. Cause they look at you and look at you as small. They like, man, get outta here a little bit. Come on. Come on, bro.

[Ali Sadiq]

And that's a mistake. That's a mistake. Cause the uppercut come from up under.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the one you can't see.

[Ali Sadiq]

Now I'm gonna put my whole thing into it. I don't really get into it with the. I don't get into it with the cool ones. Like one of my cool people is somebody Who? Most people get into it. Vernon Maxwell. I ain't never got to do with Vern. I don't even know what they talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, Mac sometimes be on some bull diet.

[Ali Sadiq]

He be on some bull. But that's my man, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, that's my man. I can see y'all getting along. Cause y'all got a very similar personality. Yeah, I can see how y'all rock with each other.

[Ali Sadiq]

Me, I rock with Max Posey, Nick Van Exel, Shaq. Anybody that live in Shaq owed me a thousand dollars.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you owe you for?

[Ali Sadiq]

Come in, Shaq. First album.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

He getting his haircut at Robert Young Salon on Richmond. I started this club called Just Joking right across the street. So I'm in Robert Young Salon all the time. Shaq coming in, Adidas coming there. And he talking about his album. And I said, your album ain't gonna be good. I bet you, you get my album, you gonna like every song on there. So I get the album.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. How many songs you like?

[Ali Sadiq]

Two. Two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many songs was on the album?

[Ali Sadiq]

Probably 40. I don't know. But I know two of them was good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I say. I come right back, and I'm waiting on it. I say, shaq, two songs. You lying. Two songs I like. That's it. Where's My Money? Still, to this day, every time I run into him, I say. I just look at him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just said you like. You might have liked more. You might have liked about six or seven of those songs.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, I did not like six or seven of them songs. You go back and listen to that first album you didn't like. You ain't even hear it. That's. That's the crazy thing. You. You ain't even supported. Yeah, see that. See, you ain't. You ain't listen to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't.

[Ali Sadiq]

And you know the song with the food, Snickers. And you heard him freestyle. That's not it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Now, he good at freestyling. You don't think. You don't think he could.

[Ali Sadiq]

When you don't know rappers. Yeah. If you don't know rappers. Yeah. So he good at freestyling. So what is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There you go. You. Well, now ask me this. Why are so many people moving to Houston? I think Drake is moving. Didn't Drake just buy a place in Houston or. He's moving to Houston.

[Ali Sadiq]

He's not like us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There you go. Come on, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm just saying he's not like us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why they do. Why? First of all, since you brought that up. Why they turn on Drake like that, man?

[Ali Sadiq]

I was. This is me. And people who know me know this. I really wasn't a Drake fan. Like that, okay? Because it always. It was always selling something that I already heard. So I'm a real hip hop person. I've been around as long as hip hop, so you can't give me a rendition of somebody else's style and think I'm rocking with it. I'm just not. He sounded like short on this one. He sounded like this person. And then when you. You being from the H, I don't honor you stealing anything from us. Like Chopped and Screwed. Any of that. Any. Anything that we created. And you don't pay homage to us from. From getting it. I got a problem with that. I've always had a problem with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what about all the people that he put on? All the people that he helped about the mud?

[Ali Sadiq]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, Come on. Come on, Ollie. Don't do that now. Don't do that.

[Ali Sadiq]

I don't know who he helped.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do, though.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, I really don't. Because he was it from Houston. Who did he above? He didn't help, okay? UGK was ugk. Yeah, Face. His face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm talking about all the guys that went at him this summer. I ain't talking about the old guard. No, he didn't help the old guard. But I'm talking about a lot of the guys that he helped that went on, went at him this summer. Not just K Dot. Cause he brought K DOT on tour with him. But he helped a lot of other people.

[Ali Sadiq]

I don't know who all this man helped. I'm in my own world. I don't know who all he helped. Give me somebody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing. You don't know who he helped, but you know what he stole. You don't rock with him like that. Why you watch.

[Ali Sadiq]

I hit a style. I can hear the style. It's on the radio. They pumping him on the radio. And then when you say certain things, you know it, man. Your business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What ain't got you turned, what got you. Okay, that aside, okay, maybe it's because you say he biting people style. And you've heard that style before. But what is it about Drake that rubs you the wrong way? Cause it's more than the style.

[Ali Sadiq]

That was just the style. I didn't have. I didn't have no other problems with the. With the man I know in Houston. Man, if some things that didn't happen in the age that other People had problems with him. Sauce Walker had problems with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, I wasn't in it. But the thing is, when you talk about our style, you know, our style is very unique and we get overlooked. And that's the other. That's the other part of it. You. You can come and take something from a place that gets overlooked anyway if you don't put no shine on. That's why I never left Houston. I wasn't going to LA or New York to do nothing. I'm h town. I didn't think that LA or New York had the pattern on who was funny or not. So why go. Why go there, right? And give them all this recognition. And then the other thing is when I make it, because in my mind I was going to make it. So LA and New York get all of the contribution, everything I put into it. So I spend my money there. I'm going to do every. What about the people from my city that's not going to get a chance to see me because I didn't moved away. I'm from here, right? You know what I'm saying? So the people that's from where I'm from got to see me in the grocery store, at the bodega, you know what I'm saying? Walking up the street so they can benefit from it. Hey, Ali, how did you do such and such? Oh, man, this is how I did it. I'm not going somewhere else where everybody's trying to do that. Nah, I'm h town all day. All day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny that you say that because we've seen a lot of rappers try to go back to their home and it doesn't end up well for them. Why do you think that is?

[Ali Sadiq]

They didn't cultivate. They didn't cultivate that area from the beginning. I'm not. I'm not in this space where I've helped everybody that ever asked me for help, I've helped. And some people who didn't ask me, I help because sometimes my help come when you don't know it. Okay, I'm in a room and I bring you up. Hey, you can get this person that. Don't tell them that I. I said it. Just get them. The thing is, if you don't cultivate your neighborhood now, you can't go back. Man, I can go anywhere in Houston. Who got a problem with me? Nobody. I live here. I love here. This is. This is my space. So if you didn't do that, then no, you can't come back. No, you can't come back unless you coming back with a per. With a purpose to, to love your city. I don't, I don't think none of this is what's so unique about Houston. We see, that's why I don't know a person that I did, I would like to meet because I see all, I see everybody, right? And we, we don't run around with no entourages and all of this nonsense. I'm in a safe space in my city, right? I don't have no problems in my city. If you in your city, you got problems. What did you do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, everybody's not happy for your success, Ali. Everybody's not.

[Ali Sadiq]

But when you, when you have so many people that are. It's probably people that, it's probably people that, that hate me. But it's so. But you gonna say something that somebody else gonna say for what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ali Sadiq]

They gonna question your hate. If you ain't got nobody questioning your hate, then something wrong. I don't have to always defend myself. The city will defend me, right? I'm saying the people that know me, it's people in the city. When I, I said something about a situation, I don't even know him. And people like you don't know him. Oh, you must be young. You must be young, right? You gotta be. And then the young people that know me, like, wait a minute, you do know that he did such and such and such and such. I'm a charitable person and I don't need to, I don't need a camera to record it, right? If I, if I give some charity, I don't need to post it and none of that. And me and Marcus, Marcus D. Wild and my partner, we was together one time. He said, hey, man, you know what you just did? People have a camera and they need to point. And I said, God recorded it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ali Sadiq]

I don't need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how I am. I like to do and. Because the question that you have to ask yourself is this, if you did something that was special and no one told you it was special, would you still feel special?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There you go. That's your answer.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah. Because just like this, domino effect. 1, 2, 3, and 4. The first ever special. I'm the first comic ever in the world to do a special that's all connected. A four part series special. People don't recognize it, but it's still special, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You believe it. Special. That's all that matters.

[Ali Sadiq]

And that's what matters to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The ghetto boys came out with a song. Mind playing Trick song.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why. Why do you relate to that song so much.

[Ali Sadiq]

Man? This is just. I. I was friends with Bushwick. I'm friends with Willie D now. I just got really. Just got off the phone with him. Friends with Brad. So. Mind playing tricks on you? First of all, the beat was crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And that what he was rap. What they were rapping about. This is a lot of times people's life. You know what I'm saying? You can think that you something and you and you not. Your mind is actually playing tricks on you. So to stay grounded in reality is what this song was really about. You know what I'm saying? So. And I. That pulling it, man. That man said I pulled in the pot pies and bailed out quick. If it's going down, let's get it over with. And that's, that's a, that's a slogan for me, right? If it's going down, let's get it over with. I've never. I. I wish I was scared of somebody, Shannon. I really wish I was so I could, I could understand that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You always have that mental.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah. Yep. I've been a small man in stature, like you say so. But you know something? I was first of all, Shannon. I was big. I've been five, seven since like seventh, eighth grade. Before that, like about. Let me see, sixth grade. And I can't. I was a center. I started off playing center. I was a five. That's what it would come in basketball. Yeah. I was a five. And over one summer it's like everybody went to sleep and. And then I was a one out of nowhere. My first position playing football. Inside linebacker. Right. Inside linebacker. And I was vicious. I knock your head off because I. I don't have no regard for my own self.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

So I'm out there. I'm inside linebacker. Then I went from that to receiver. Then I went to cornerback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why you with the cornerback, huh?

[Ali Sadiq]

No, I wanted to hit people. I could still catch. Now s the difference is between like now you talk about today's supposed to be thug and rappers and all this supposed to be in the streets. All right? They're not athletic, so I don't believe them. Cuz it growing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you saw Drake hooping. Drake be hooping. I got who Drake.

[Ali Sadiq]

Shut up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let him rain in the gym. You saw it. You saw it too. See it. Breathe Breezy be dropping. Davey Auburn boy be hooping. Hooping.

[Ali Sadiq]

Stop it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chains. Hooping.

[Ali Sadiq]

Stop it. Shannon. Stop it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

BVD can hoop. Brian McKnight can hoop. These boys can't even catch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They might not can catch. They might not can catch. Man, they might not catch a football.

[Ali Sadiq]

But they can't catch a baseball. A tennis ball. They can't catch a Cole.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've seen Drake put it in the basket, man, you did too.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, I did not. I did not see this man putting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing in the basket. He probably beat you one on one.

[Ali Sadiq]

I doubt it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[Ali Sadiq]

You're not gonna skip. You're not gonna skip me. See what you doing you trying to do is skip this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, I'm just saying I've seen that man hoop. I've seen some of these other. I've seen Breezy hoop. They. I've seen J. Cole give you that work. Give you that work.

[Ali Sadiq]

You think J. Cole gonna give me that work? Work bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like Ribey say, work, work, work, work, work.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm gonna put J. Cole. Hey, in the post. Throw it to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you gonna be in the post at 5 7?

[Ali Sadiq]

And I'm still a big man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fud Webb couldn't post up.

[Ali Sadiq]

That's Fud Webb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unless he posted up Webster, Gary Cole.

[Ali Sadiq]

Chris Paul can post up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chris Paul sex.

[Ali Sadiq]

Fud. What that mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no five seven post players. That's what that means.

[Ali Sadiq]

Man, that man. Man, I put that man on my hip. Put that work on left and right hand. You finna get these boys. You finna get these boys in trouble?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[Ali Sadiq]

So the thing is this. Why they don't do the celebrity basketball games like they used to in All Star?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do.

[Ali Sadiq]

They just had it, man. Did you see bvd? Did you see these boys? Who? These boys was nasty. Brian McKnight are getting boys at work right now. I'm talking about real Hoopers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, he ain't trying to do that. He should have went. The NBA love to have Brian McKnight out there, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Master peek at hoop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ali Sadiq]

These new boys can't. Have you ever seen them in a softball game? They can't catch you trying to get these new boys.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, well, Travis Scott has your fathers.

[Ali Sadiq]

They can't catch. The father ain't do nothing with them. Oh, Lord, they can't catch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can I ask you. Oh, let me ask you this. Let me transition to this. You and Pimp C almost get into it. What was that about?

[Ali Sadiq]

He was talking crazy to my sister. He was young. He was a young boy. He was talking crazy to my sister.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your sister told.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, I saw it. I mean, I'm. See, I'm in the club, okay? At the time, you gotta think I'm already a dope boy, okay? I'm in the streets already, okay? This man is a rapper, okay? Young boy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm already mad aggressive. Cause I'm already in the streets. See, I've been in the streets since 88.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, since 88.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Down to 40 years.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm not a. I'm not a. I'm not one of these guys. I used to listen to this. These guys when I. When I came home, 1997. I'm already. I've been in the streets since 88. 88. I'm already doing things right and stuff. I won't say on camera. I'm already doing things right, and I'm a problem. So when they rapping, that ain't got nothing to do with what I'm actually doing, okay? What I'm actually doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You real. In them streets. They talking about the streets.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm already. I'm already in the streets. You know what I'm saying? So, like, now when I listen to people, I be like, man, that's what y'all. Y'all really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But y'all cool now.

[Ali Sadiq]

He dead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's right. I forgot. I forgot. Did y'all make peace before?

[Ali Sadiq]

We went to the same barber and all that? Big shout out to Nick. We went to the same barber.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm glad, bro. I'm glad you made peace with that.

[Ali Sadiq]

I made peace with mostly everybody. Mostly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, exactly. We're gonna get to that a little later. So help me understand. You went to the. You went to the strip club with Moses Malone, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Big Mo, what's up, baby? He gone, too? Yes, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did you meet Moses Malone?

[Ali Sadiq]

Anthony Colbert Senior.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Ali Sadiq]

First person to ever invest in my career. He bought me some headshots. I started doing stand up. He said, hey, man, you don't need some headshots. And he sent me to this guy named Montague who was the same person that was shooting Destiny Child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I knew that them pictures was expensive because the man is named Montague. Anybody named Montague is definitely charged.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

His name is Money. And he was. He has some circle glasses, right? And I said, yeah, this is. This is. This is high quality, right? Great headshots. Him and Moses, very, very close friends.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

I learned a lot hanging out with Moses and Anthony Colbert Senior. Anthony Colbert Jr. Is my accountant. My. My close friend. We got. We all. We own a food truck park together. 4501 Almeida. His father. When his father passed, before his father passed, he told. He told me and Anthony to always stick together. So may y'all always stick together, so we do. But, man, Moses would want to go to the strip club to have lunch at this spot called Treasures. He. He want to have lunch. So we go. I go with him. Me, Anthony Senior, we in this strip club. And I'm thinking that they going for the strippers. This buffet in this strip club was amazing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, People see, when you tell people that, people think you lying. I mean, the thighs are nice, too, though. But the food is really good. Magic City. You ever been to Magic?

[Ali Sadiq]

I've been to Magic City.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The food. Tell me the food, they busting.

[Ali Sadiq]

I didn't eat no food in Magic City.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you. Why you there, then?

[Ali Sadiq]

Because I was with some other people, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They weren't hungry.

[Ali Sadiq]

I didn't eat no food in. Maddie said I was like, I'm not a strip. What's crazy is I'm not a strip club guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't either.

[Ali Sadiq]

What? If I'm there, I don't want the strippers dancing on me. I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't want no booty juice on your chicken?

[Ali Sadiq]

I can't. I just don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean, dancing on you?

[Ali Sadiq]

What's wrong with you? They ain't got. Where's the shower at? They been in there all day. Where's the shower?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look, they do a couple things.

[Ali Sadiq]

Don't be wiped. Don't be wet, wiping nothing and sliding on me, man. I just can't on my clothes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

These clothes got something.

[Ali Sadiq]

I don't want you on me like that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They go down and freshen up after about two freshers. What, they got showers down there?

[Ali Sadiq]

Ain't no shower. What are showers at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm gonna call Madge after I get off here and ask him.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, ain't no showers in them spots. Them girl going down there, changing into them same bathing suit. Just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. They doing a little bird bath. Little bird bath, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Shannon now. Oh, no Bird bath brought on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do it too much.

[Ali Sadiq]

Just in there, bird bathing. Just, man, just vagina. Just with all that bacteria, vaginosis all on me. I don't want all that going on on me, man. I throw my money from a distance like a baby. I pitched my money to him. I still. I will. Let me tell you something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I thought.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, listen. Let me tell you. Hey, V Live. I was in V Live one time. I'm in that. That. I love the. Making it right when making it rain came out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

Cause you can throw your money up in air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And that's it. You ain't you don't need nobody dancing on you. Even this girl, man. God rest his soul, man. Big, though. Big, though. And Eric, I would come to their spot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And they know. They know how to get me. They know how to give me. It was this girl named Tammy the Tiger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'd you do?

[Ali Sadiq]

She. Wow. I'm talking about. And the first time, I didn't even know she was no dancer. I saw her in the Roxy. She just in the Roxy, looking great. I would. I was sent a Merlot. Cause she drank Merlot. Man. I found that. That girl was a dance. I went down to that club, fine as she can be, but still. I don't want nobody dancing on me. I can. You didn't let Tammy dance on me. I didn't let Tammy dance on me. Nah. I throw that money. She on that stage. I throw that money out there. But I just don't dance on me. I don't. I don't like it, Shannon. You gave me the creeps. Now I don't like nobody dancing on me. If you ain't got no bath. So I see right now sometimes you came down to Houston. You came down. I remember you was in Houston. You know what I'm saying? And they got you. They got you because you. I. I heard you. And. And Ocho Cinco, because, you know, he. He gets it in. So y'all in Houston?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

And you in that strip club.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't go to strip club. I didn't. I almost moved to Houston. The best decision I made. One of the best one in the last five years. One of the best decisions that I made. Sometimes the best decision is the one that you don't make.

[Ali Sadiq]

You gonna leave right there. Hey, let me tell you something. That H style, that's different Animals, it's full of them. You don't need to go no strip club to see one. That Galleria.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm with you when you write.

[Ali Sadiq]

Oh, that Gallo. That Gallo was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm with you all the way when you write.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm talking about you. Hey, if you come on our meter, just on that. Just. Just stand out there. Just stand out there on our meter. They out there. I'm talking about a sun, a sundress, no draws on. It's crazy, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's talk about.

[Ali Sadiq]

I heard you ran the mood.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ran into Tupac or when he was with Digital Underground.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, see, I was already in the streets. Already in the streets. Money be on that elevator, just drunk. We chopping it up. We had a. It's a rap convention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

Rap convention. And they come down. Dana Dane was on. Big shout out to Dana Dane. Dana Dane is. The escalator wasn't working in the. In the hotel, so everybody had to catch the elevator. And Dana Dane was sitting on the broken escalator. I get on the elevator, Money baby is on there. I just finished chopping it up with him. He drunk. I see who now. Tupac. I didn't know that was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't know that with him, right?

[Ali Sadiq]

I didn't know that with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He dancer, you know, With Digital Underground.

[Ali Sadiq]

With Digital Underground. But it wasn't this. It wasn't that thug Persona. And how would it be a thug Persona to somebody who's already thugging in the streets, right? Like, I'm already a wild man. So I didn't see him like everybody else saw him. Even when I was locked up, I used to be like, man, that kid wasn't no thug like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you see. Having been in the streets, live that life. Breathe that life. When you hear guys talk about that life, you like, man, y'all need to stop this.

[Ali Sadiq]

They really do. They really do. I'm talking about. Cause it's like, even with these young boys now, it's shameful. It's shameful. And my problem is this. I never lied on my mama like that. Hey, that's all we know. Stop it, dog. So, yo, so your mama never said. Did nobody ever say nothing good to you? So everybody's just doing bad. Every. Every black person just doing bad. Everybody's from the hood. Everybody with nobody mama making it. Nobody daddy was making it. Nobody. Everybody just. Everybody just destitute, right? Man, stop it, man. I tell people in the special, I never had to be in the streets. My mama had a job. I just couldn't handle being outside, not being in the atmosphere. My daddy. My dad had a job. My. When I moved in, my dad. My dad had a job. My dad was fly tailor made suits, all that. My dad was selling powder cocaine only because he had a carrier service downtown. And it was lawyers that he was carrying stuff for getting documents signed. And they was on powder. So my daddy just borrowed just right into it, you know what I'm saying? So him. Ivory James. James a boxer. I'm saying Ivory has one side of downtown as a carry service. My dad had the other side of downtown. They. They partnered. My dad was selling these pills. Everybody was popping pills back then. I'm saying. So when he started selling powder, he didn't want me to sell powder, even though I had to open the door and sell the pills for him when he was gone. But he was. Wow. But my dad didn't want me in the streets. My mama didn't want me in the streets. I hid all that from my mama. Just now be finding out stuff that I was. That I did back then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Ali Sadiq]

But so I don't give this story of, oh, we was destined, we doing. I had to sell. I ain't had to do but be a kid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

Which people find hard to do nowadays, like being a kid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, everybody won't grow up fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do.

[Ali Sadiq]

And it makes no. It makes no sense to me. And then. And then lie on your family like there's no honorable people in your family. Man, cut it out, man. Cut it out. It's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you mentioned that your mom had a job, your dad had a job. You really didn't. So what type of upbringing? So give us a synopsis. When you were a kid growing up in Houston, you were in the projects, if I'm not mistaken. What did you want to be when you grew up?

[Ali Sadiq]

A chef. A Navy seal. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, a chef. Then what happened?

[Ali Sadiq]

I start cooking the wrong things. Said I'm cooking the wrong thing, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You weren't making no art scales and collard greens, anything like that?

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, man, I'm a chemist. I'm cooking the wrong thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

So that. And that's the. And that's the. Just being in the streets, man. I was. I didn't have to be out there chanting, right? Real talk. I just didn't. And my mom. My mom. That really was embarrassing for my mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, I apologize to my mom, too, all the time for being dishonorable to what she was about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, and I think that in families nowadays, it's no honor. True. They don't want to honor the mother, honor the father, honor the family. You want. You want to put mud on your people's name. And that's. And that's. That's wrong. And. But a lot of guys don't see it like that. They think that street cred, what is it? What does it get you? You can't buy nothing with it. Can't buy nothing with it. You. You are more embarrassing to society, to your family, to your children. I'm saying to your grandma, you. It's. It's. It's really shameful, man, that how these people. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not perfect in this, but I'm not gonna. Man, it would break my heart, man, for my Kids to be out in the streets acting like I didn't teach them what was right. And I didn't do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't do anything for them?

[Ali Sadiq]

I didn't do anything for them. And it would break my heart to see my friends. Children like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, I got friends that their kid want to be in the streets, and, you know, I go try to talk to him, man, why do you want to be out here? What you missing? What. Why are you trying to hurt your father? Why are you trying to hurt your mother? Like, what is the real core of it? Are you. You have to be a part of what everybody else is doing, and everybody else is not really doing it. I see these young kids out here that. Masquerading to be Thug Life, but this is what the music sell them, right? So I have a problem with that as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ali Sadiq]

What you. What you say? You selling something that you not. So when you run into people, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That they take offense to it.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm offended because you, bruh, going on, man, before you make me show you the difference between me and you. Cause, bro, you ain't really been tested. You ain't been in nothing. I'm telling you exactly what's going to happen, bruh. And you. And I'm not. And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I've already done. So it's a different type of intensity when it went, man, I do my best. I do my best, Shannon. And I cry a lot, man. I cry a lot, man, for people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is there. Is there. Is there a mentality that you must adopt in order to be in the streets like you were in the streets?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah. And it's. And it's brutal. It's brutal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't. You gotta be heartless. You gotta be ruthless. You gotta be.

[Ali Sadiq]

You got to be. Shannon, you looking at a man that will kill you with your baby in your hand. Hey, man, put your kid down, bro. I don't want to do this in front of your kid. And now the intensity with me, man, going on, bro, before. Before something happened to you. For real. For real. I don't want to play with you because you don't. You don't really have enough people. For real. Because you're dealing with somebody that you don't really understand. I was 19 years old by myself in prison. And it won't be one person ever to talk out of turn about what happened in there with me, because I. I got a mean, mean, mean streak in me. Hey, man, you better go on before I put your in the grave, boy. I don't need nobody. I don't need nobody. I ain't got to go get nothing. I'm equipped right now with my bare fucking hands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you take that in there into those walls?

[Ali Sadiq]

How would you treat people like that in the streets?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Ali Sadiq]

When that man hit me, when this man hit me in my face. I'm 15 years old. This man's 6, 4, 6, 5.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He stole on you?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, from behind. Cause that knew he had to or get bused down. I'm not playing no games with nobody. This is the. This is the thing. My mom, she dated a man that was brutal to me. I'm saying he was brutal. And I said, in my life. I will never in life let somebody beat on me again. I'm seven, man. The type of violence that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That he inflicted on you, I will.

[Ali Sadiq]

Inflict on a person trying to do that shit that he did to me when I was 7.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you tell your father?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, my daddy came over, got into it with him. They pushed my daddy out the house, right? And my daddy is in the window. He said, oh, unlock the door. I unlocked the door, let him back out. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You been. You've been on there for a minute, Holly.

[Ali Sadiq]

I unlocked that door, let that man back in. My daddy right back on his ass. But that only made it worse for me, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause he gonna leave and you still gotta be there.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how old were you when you decided to say, you know what? You ain't gonna put your hands on me no more. You're not gonna talk out of place. Did he leave or did you leave?

[Ali Sadiq]

My mom. My mom left him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

But it was a thing by the time I was nine. Man, you not doing nothing to my mama. You not doing nothing to me. Not doing nothing to my sister. I remember this man living in these apartments and my mom getting clothes out the dryer, the bottom dryer. And this man left the top dryer open. And my mom came up, and my mom, only four'eleven right, came up and hit her head. She came in, she rubbed my head. I said, what happened? This stupid ass man left the dry open. I said, did he apologize? Come on now. Is. It's these little bats that they call as the world bat. It was cool. You get them from this play as world, The Little Louisville Sluggers. Yeah, I got that bat and I put it in my back and I went down. I said, hey, did the lady just bump her head in here? He said, yeah. I said, did you apologize. Cause you left the drawer. He said no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how old are you at this time?

[Ali Sadiq]

11.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

Man, it was a. It was a bad scene in that. In that. At laundry. Bad scene. A grown man. Didn't matter. Wore him out. If my mother wouldn't have came down there, I would have killed him. My mama tell anybody. If you get into it with him, you better hope that he talking. Because if he not talking, he's thinking of a way to hurt you bad. And I'm not a person. I'm not trying to get away with nothing. I'm. I'm gonna do what I'm going to do, and that is it. Just like when I was locked up that. That officer. Mitchell, bro, you trying to. Man, you stripping me down in the vessel area. You tripping, bro. You tripping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what? So when you say stripping you down.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah. Making me get naked in the vestibule area. Just cause he. Just. Cause he felt like he had the power to do it. And I told him. I say, mitchell, man, this ain't gonna be good for you, bro. Now I'm telling you. And it happened. And I changed. Like, I used to be very jovial. And everybody know I was like this every day, like, four months. I was like, it's gonna come up. I'm gonna get an opportunity to show this man why he shouldn't have did that. And when I did, I was gonna kill that man, and I was gonna go back to my cell. I wasn't. I'm in prison. While I'm gonna go. I'm not gonna escape, right? I'm gonna kill that man. I'm gonna go back to my cell. They gonna come give me. I'm gonna pack my stuff up. They gonna come give me, and I'm gonna be here for disrespect. Come on, bro. If it wasn't for Alameen and Mustafa, I'd have killed that man. Name was Mitchell. Not. Not. Not playing at all. And I. And I know people like, oh, he act like he tough. No, I don't. No, I don't. I'm very jovial. I'm very peaceful. You got to push me to something. And I'm gonna say, I'm. Man, and I'm. I'm paused up most of the time. Hey, bro. But if you keep going, you trying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To take it there.

[Ali Sadiq]

You trying to take it there. And I'm probably gonna take it there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to see you there.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I'm gonna cry for you and. And. And. And wish the best for your family and all the rest of that. Oh, but man, it's. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Cause I've never started to fight in my whole life. I finished a lot of them. I've never started one. I'm more offended that you bothering me than anything because this is what people do. They not coming to pick on you. Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because of my size. But they look at you, they think you an easy victory. I say they all never. So they under. Basically they're underestimating you because they looking at.

[Ali Sadiq]

Why even bother me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they feel that's an easy way. Ollie, why you think?

[Ali Sadiq]

Why not bother you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This ain't what they want.

[Ali Sadiq]

So. Holly, you ain't what they want, but I'm what they want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you know how animals are. When animals hunt, they find the old or the weak.

[Ali Sadiq]

Okay? So watch this. What would you. What would anybody rather deal with? A lion or a honey badger?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, see, people don't know about that honey badger.

[Ali Sadiq]

And that's they problem. Now when you. When you mess around and find out about it, a lion don't want it with a honey badger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. At all. No.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I'm a honey badger. I'm low to the ground. I can fight backwards. My teeth is razor sharp. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are you playing with me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They don't know.

[Ali Sadiq]

They need to find out about a honey badger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you. Your parents got divorced when you were very young.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did that impact you and make you or. Because what you became. Because you say you were in the street and you didn't have to be. You chose to be in the streets. And you've told me right here that, look, my dad had a job, my mom had a job. I didn't have to do anything that I did. But did their divorce, did that play a role? Did that father. Father drive you in the street?

[Ali Sadiq]

Major man. When you are a father, it's very important that you stick close. Even if you detach, you still gotta be in the kid's life. You gotta be there because it's. A certain amount of protection comes with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm.

[Ali Sadiq]

People pray on the week and when they see something weak or they can figure out how to get in there. But when your father is there. My daddy. I don't even really know if my daddy could fight, but. Because he never would be in the fight because he was a man. Peter, don't mess with me. I know karate. I don't know why he would always say that. I never seen my dad do no Karate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He probably didn't know it, but he's 6 3, right?

[Ali Sadiq]

My dad is 6'three jet black. My uncle Mack. I'm talking about fight from the go. My dad, if he would've stuck closer to us, then the abuse would've never happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know what I'm saying? Mm. If you make sure that you taking care of things and my mom don't have to sacrifice like she did to try to take care of us, now we being left at home by ourselves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, it's all these things. If you facilitate certain things, then you cut out a certain amount of nonsense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Ali Sadiq]

Predators know when no father's around, man, you can't really come to my kids because they like, hey, man, it is a father, very close. And I. And I'm. I'm gonna be a problem. Like, I. I question everything, you know, like, yo, man, what's going on with you? I pop up everywhere. I'm always. I'm always showing up. So if you that type of father, then predators stay away. Like this. This man was talking about. He said why he. How he chose his victims.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw that. He said he didn't choose the black, white, Latino, didn't matter. He said he looked at the father.

[Ali Sadiq]

If the father wasn't a threat. But I knew that from being inside. Talking to these type of predators makes me very skeptical in the world. I don't. I don't want you to do certain things. I want you to be certain places. I'm always on guard because I know the actual predators. I know how they think. I know how they move. And what's crazy. Do you know those type of predators get protected inside because of real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they stand no chance because we don't kill them. Absolutely.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I'm not talking about what I heard. Yeah, they keep them away from us. And I used to. Initially. It used to burn me up, though. I come in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How y'all know them? People come in because I've always wondered how y'all know this guy was a. He killed an old person. He killed the elderly, or he molested a child and he killed. How y'all know about that? Y'all get new. Who tipped y'all off about that?

[Ali Sadiq]

Ollie, I was a fire safety clerk. I know what's going on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm in the front office.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Okay.

[Ali Sadiq]

People know what your jacket is when you come in there. They know what you're doing. And once we find out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, it's hell to pay.

[Ali Sadiq]

Oh, it's hell to pay. But they keep Them in protective custody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why they get protect. Nah do that. You wanna do all that to them little kids that can't protect themselves. They got. Go ahead. That's what you should do it.

[Ali Sadiq]

That's the craziest thing. I'm a street pharmaceutical rep, which is very frowned upon. I come in there, non violent crime. You put me with everybody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The most violent of the violent.

[Ali Sadiq]

But then this dude who done serial raped, serial molest. You put him down there in protective custody with other serial molesters and raping. Why don't you throw him to the wolves like everybody else? Because you know we gonna pull them apart. Gonna pull them apart. The justice will be served. If you kill a baby. Oh, the justice will be served. We gonna get you in the county. So we already know what you came in there. In the county. In county jail. We trying to bust you to the white meat in the county jail. I remember I'm on 10B3 and on the other end is 10C2. We can see they. We can see they. They blocked. And it's a guy that had killed a baby. Baby girl threw in the braids by you. He get arrested. Cause we seen on the news get arrested. Everybody hoping that he gets sent to the 10th floor. 1301 Franklin, that man gets sent to the 10th floor. We hoping that he come to our cell so bad they sent him down to 10 C2 and the sheriffs put him in there and closed the main sally door. Like where you can hear in the hallway. He already behind the bar. They closed the sally door and it was like on cartoons. You saw him run this way and you saw a pack go that way. Then you saw him run this way and you saw a pack go that saw the pack go that way. And then the next thing we know is a cold blue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over.

[Ali Sadiq]

They coming to get him on the stretcher. They done slammed this boy on his neck so many times trying to kill him. Cause you killed the baby. So the elderly and the kids and women and women. See, I think sometimes that these.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny that you guys have rules and regulations in there, but you don't follow by the rules and regulation out here.

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey son, there you go. There you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk to me. I mean break it down to me.

[Ali Sadiq]

So listen man, when you trying to get the money, you trying to get bread. So you, you, you're not messing with women and children right long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't harm the women, children, the elderly. You good.

[Ali Sadiq]

You man do. Do what you're doing. You know what I'm saying, do it. Do it. Fair business. Because I. I come from a era of fair business. You know what I'm saying? So if you doing dirty business, then there's something wrong with you. But I come from fair business, and there's no. We didn't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back then.

[Ali Sadiq]

We didn't even. Do you understand? You asked Gilly a question about athletes getting protected. It wasn't just athletes. It was anybody that had potential that we saw, man. We was honorable. It was honor. Amongst these, man, the dude named Phil. We out in the street selling dope. We ain't letting Phil sell no dope. Phil play the saxophone, man. You can't sell no dope. Phil. Boy, you the next one we see this boy. Hey, Phil. Say, Phil. Hey, man. Come over here with your little harmonica, man. Just calling this instrument all the wrong names, man. Come on, man. The savages, you know, they unruly, man. Play something to soothe these savages. And he. He play something right and boy, break him off, man, gone. My boy, Michael Van, he tried to sell dope. And I say, boy, cut it out. I took him to the mall. I said, get whatever you want. And then sent them to school. Bro, you ain't. This ain't for you. Out here, we're not. We had a lot of honor about ourselves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then what happened?

[Ali Sadiq]

These same people wanted to be in the streets. They wanted to be in the streets. See, everybody. It, man, it's like, my friends now. I don't have no thug friends. All these boys is fathers. They not in the. Not in the streets. I don't hang with no. I don't hang with no thugs. Like, for what you not. It's not even cool. It's not even cool. Like, to be under constant stress, man. That's not. Man, always getting into it. You can't. Y'all can't ever go out and have a good time. Cause you always into it. You always beefing. It's like the reason why a lot of these dudes is doing this. Because it's really not no street consequences. It's a safe space. If you talking. You talking all out loud, man. You ain't trying to do nothing. Ain't trying to do nothing. But I just don't get. I just don't get the atmosphere of. Everybody want to be a thug. Everybody. Everybody. You playing football, right? How many thugs was out there on the football field when you was playing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. No.

[Ali Sadiq]

Now you got people that come to leagues and they uncoachable because they mind. They wanna have this street Persona, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why when you play football and you making all this money, you wanna go hang out with the dudes on the.

[Ali Sadiq]

Why when you play basketball? Why when you play baseball? Because the others are not doing that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

You. What's the boy that went to jail.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Played for the Patriots, Hernandez.

[Ali Sadiq]

Why, bro? What inadequacy are you trying to cover up by doing that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta show the homies I'm real. Keeping it real.

[Ali Sadiq]

But that's the great thing. Who thinks that that's keeping it real? Some more people that ain't got no sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's not in your situation.

[Ali Sadiq]

That's not even in your situation. Oh, man, let me let my partner have $80 million. Okay? So Marcus D. Wild, right? This is what he said to me. This type of. This is the type of partners that I have. I'm talking about doing something reckless. And this man say, hey, you just got presented with a plaque. Add all your cities on there, your gross earnings. And that's something really to be admired and really be proud of. Now go out there and throw all this shit away if you want to. And walked in this house. Get off my yard. If I call the police on your ass, he. Man, I got. My friends are not letting me throw my career away for nothing. If you. Another thing is most of these people now under 40, and I got a real theory about men that's under 50 in that era behind me, they have a lot of embarrassment in them. They can be embarrassed easily. So when you can be embarrassed, you internalize things. And that's why most of these guys have these mental health. Here they go, oh, my mental health. Because you do not have friends. This is why you have a mental health condition, because you do not have friends. For checks and balances, you, what, 56?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Ali Sadiq]

Okay. Do you and your friends talk? Yeah, about everything. You're not embarrassed? You're not embarrassed. My whole era, whether you had. Bro, I remember I called. This ain't. First of all, let me just clear this up. It wasn't from me doing nothing. Somebody slept in my bed with somebody that was unclean. And I don't know. I get back in my bed early in the morning because that's when you find out you got crabs early in the morning. It's never in the daytime. It's always early in the morning. So I'm sitting on the commode and, man, what a crab thing, man. I don't know what this is, man. I'm 17. I don't. I've never. Man, I got bugs on me. I go Right. And knock on the door. My partner is in there. And I. I can't say nothing. Cause he in there with my girlfriend's friend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm.

[Ali Sadiq]

Okay. I knock on don't. I said, gee, come here. He said, what? I said, look. He man, what's that? I said, I don't know. And he looked. Cause he wore glasses. Put his glasses on. He said, oh, boy, you got crabs. I got something for that. I told him. I went and told him, I'm not keeping the bugs to myself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

Me and kid. Me and kid Stiles, we go to Eccles drugs. It's extra drugs, baby. We go with extra drugs. And I. I knew it was gonna be. Something was gonna happen. I get to echo drugs. Me and kid and the pharmacist. This when pharmacist was open all night. And then pharmacist, the man had a. I never forget, he had a thick mustache and some glasses. He turned this. How he turned around. That man turned around. Yes. I said, hey, I need some. Some medicine. And I'm whispering because it's some construction workers in there doing painting and stuff in there. I said, he said, for what? I said, I got bugs on me. He said, you got crabs? All the construction dude all little man got crabs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

Give me the medicine, right? Tell me what the medicine is. The little shampoo. Look, comb. I got just the medicine. We go to the register. Oh, and it's this girl at this register, she fire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kiss that one out the window.

[Ali Sadiq]

Now we go back, and this one, that little basket, the little purse basket, just came out. We get the basket, we put the crab missing, and we put a bunch of other stuff in there. And I said, hey, kid, when we get up there, just talk to her. She ringing up. He talking, and she just ringing up. She ain't even looking at it. So she said, just ringing up top. And then the medicine. This is the only thing that didn't ring up. And she looked and saw that crab medicine. My partner's so dirty, he gonna to mine as his medicine. But I went inside, I remember my partner claiming to me and said, man, my meat hot. I said, what? He said, man, I'm pissing off fire. I said, boy, you got some. You got some. You meat juicing. You got something. I went and told my partner, I said, hey, man, this boy meat. How he woke up, this meat stuck to himself. He said, hey, man, let me take you to the doctor, boy. Now we all three go to Riverside, you know what I'm saying? Together, we in there. Yeah. Yeah, this boy meat hot. But it's no embarrassment that people nowadays let that fester into something else because they embarrassed. Ah, man, we. You gotta have friends, and you gotta have real friends that's dedicated to what you're doing. If not, yeah, you're gonna have mental health conditions. Yeah, you're gonna be out in the streets wilding. You don't have nobody to say, hey, man, girl don't do that, right? I mean, you don't, man. Bro, but if everybody thugging. How many kids out here just going along just to get along, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned your grandma early in the beginning. How influential was she, man?

[Ali Sadiq]

Big deal. Both of them, my dad's mom and my mom's mom. Both of them, my grandma Callie, she was different than my grandma Louise, but they. And I. And I didn't like my grandma Louise at first when I was a kid, you know, But I Understood why she did the things that she did. You know, These are the same people that taught me how to garden, taught me how to grow stuff, gave me work ethic, you know what I'm saying? Babysat me, whooped my ass when I needed it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Ali Sadiq]

You know, all these. All these different things, when they instill a lot, they stealing a lot of me, you know? And they never lied to me. Neither one of them never lied to me. Didn't make me out to be more than what I was or none of that. Just, man, you gotta be solid. My mom was like that. My aunts were like that. I'm groomed by my family, right? And like, I go back to, man, I hate that I got locked up and my family had to bear that burden of sending me stuff and explaining why I was at and all these things, man. I'm supposed to be doing something else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. Had you not gotten locked up, are you sitting here today?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, I'm sitting here today. I'm one of the greatest chefs alive. Yeah, I'm sitting there. Fancy. That's the thing I tell people, man, you ain't got to go through no hardship to get nowhere, right? Everything doesn't have to be hard, okay? Life is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be fun. It's not supposed to be hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wanted to be a chef, but somewhere along the line, you started cooking stuff that wasn't on the menu.

[Ali Sadiq]

Wasn't on the menu.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you decided to make that turn, do you remember, like, man, I'm gonna start selling.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, I do. Running with the wrong people. And I was like, man, what y'all. What y'all doing? Cause they built, like big walls of money. And my mama. My mama working hard for her money. She ain't. And she ain't coming off of it. Easy then to come to my mom and ask for something. You gotta have your situation together, right? Hey, all that coming to my. It's some new shoes out. And not what's wrong with the shoes you got on. But, mama, these. These cool. But my daddy bought them in the grocery store. These grocery store cheap. And my daddy was cheap. Ain't like he had no money. He was just cheap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Most old people cheap, he didn't see.

[Ali Sadiq]

But I didn't understand that. My grandma. My grandma, she would work. She would put our stuff in layaway and work. Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Ali Sadiq]

But by the time we got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I done outgrew it. It's out of style, too, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

My grandma and you still gonn Them clothes. We. Me and my grandma used to stop at this spot called Wieners Bells. You know, palace roll. I remember my daddy got me a. A Knights of the Round Table. It was supposed to be a polo. Don't do that, Jan. I get. I get that. It's a polo. It looked like a polo, but he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he had a. He had a polo st. He had.

[Ali Sadiq]

That man had a flag, man. I was like, man, I'm like, hey, And. And. And I'm rocking it like it's a polo. And it. Man, and this is being embarrassed at school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you know, Joan. Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

This boy act like he got on the polo, man. That's a Saint Bernard on yourself. Hey, man, this ain't no dog on my shirt, man. Bruh, I. The rabbits, man. I had these shirts with rabbits on, man. My daddy. My daddy was a cold man. Cause he was like, hey, man, you are the man. You make the clothes. Not the clothes don't make you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And not as no kid. No kid gonna draw you out.

[Ali Sadiq]

But that's the thing. That's a part of growing up. Learning embarrassment, right? That's why you. You grow up and have tough skin. But I already knew it was gonna be like that. Cause Jones had started at home, and my cousins, my cousin's mama, who had some more money than us, he got polos. And that boy come over with his collar popped up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at you. Yeah, look at you. Like, first of all, boy, you didn't buy. You didn't buy none of this. You ain't got no money. Your mama got the money, right? Yeah, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, I'm fly, boy. And I'm. I'm not. But I can wear my clothes well, right? You know? So now, what difference does it make why I have on now? Because sometimes people don't even know what I have on. You don't know what I have on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Stay laced, Gucci lv.

[Ali Sadiq]

Now. But see, when I was wearing lwaywei, they didn't know what that was at all, right? Just like on my wrist. I remember this lady walked up and said, oh, I like them clovers. That clover bracelet. I'm like, yeah. That's all I say. Yeah. Now, you see, I was wearing Van Cleese before everybody else. Now everybody now LeBron. I remember LeBron when he got this one right here, right? I'd already had it on my wrist when he went.

[Shannon Sharpe]

LeBron biting you, huh?

[Ali Sadiq]

Yes. A lot of people steal my style. Oh, Shannon. Oh, man. It's terrible, man. Now, Boys wear their shirt, they shirt buttoned up. I've been wearing my shirt like that. Cause that's how my daddy wore his shirt. No tie, right? Tailor made suit. See, I would. See, this is the thing. You go back, I was wearing Taylor's stuff when Jay Z was still wearing jerseys. Go back and look at Jay Z. First pictures, him and Benny Siegel with them suits on with all that material at the bottom. See, you wasn't doing what you was doing at first. I been doing this. Ain't no bad pictures of Lee out there. That wasn't fly. Been fly. Like I said, what this lady said. Kendrick Lamont, K Dot. The new style is bell bottom denim. I'm like the new style bell bottom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was in back in the 70s. Don't tell them though.

[Ali Sadiq]

Don't. I'm 73. 1973.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't tell them.

[Ali Sadiq]

My mama had them. Yeah, my mama had them. You know what I'm saying? Just like I. I really think K.on this new album got some lingo from me. Yeah. On the cool. Cause he's not in that era to say squabble. Yeah, I do my special. And I'm saying, they in there squabbling like them, and then all of a sudden, squabble up. I said, yeah, K Doc got me. He got me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see back.

[Ali Sadiq]

Ain't nobody gonna believe it though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, back then, it wasn't you. Like you said, you win some, you lose some. But you went home, you lumped to the door. You ain't pulling no gun on nobody. No, you had a. You took your lump or you gave the lump.

[Ali Sadiq]

But hey, hey, you see these teeth right here? These two teeth right here have been cracked several times. I done been hitting the mouth before. I always went home, right? I always went home. Man, you could tussle and go to the crib.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody ain't trying to wallow like that though.

[Ali Sadiq]

Why these boys can't tussle? Cause they can't. They can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't never been in no fight.

[Ali Sadiq]

But then you shoot somebody, then you go to prison, then you got the fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but we grew up in an era you had to fight. You gonna get. You had to fight your brother, your cousin, you gotta fight. It's hard for me to believe that somebody in our age group didn't fight, didn't have at least one.

[Ali Sadiq]

Hey, now, Marcus D. Wiley never had a fight in his life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Ali Sadiq]

Never had a fight in his whole entire life. The man, 15 years old, he's never had a fight. But he had Other people that would fight for him. Cause he a good dude, right? I find myself do that now. He got all type of cousins, everything. Little Larry go hard. But, man. But I. Man, somebody say something to Mark. I'm like, hold on, watch out. Mark, what that boy say? Cause I ain't had a good one. I ain't had a good one in a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we done got too old to wallet now. Ollie, who we done got you old waiting if it's a wallet now, how about you fix yourself? I got a gray. Got another one on the way in.

[Ali Sadiq]

A couple of weeks. Listen, it depends on the situation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just let it go. You got too much going on. Nwala, now, what you trying to bump with these kid, these young boys out here? Cause ain't nobody your age trying to bump with you.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yes, that's the problem. Some of these old cats forget sometime. Hey, man, you ain't had a fight since the third grade. I had one last year, so it's. And then I got a problem. I punched a dude in the mouth in. In Arizona for saying the N word to me. Black dude, white guy. I understand the culture, and they listen to the music and all that. And I told that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

I say, bro, I am in my 50s. I'm a different era, right? I'm not with it, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, y'all 90 babies. Let that go, man.

[Ali Sadiq]

Listen, bro, I don't want to do this with you, man. And then he said. He said it again. I don't understand how they. How they talk. Nowhere else. Anybody that's outside of this skin color. Anybody Latino, Puerto Rican, Dominican, anybody. Because my grandmother ain't gonna understand. You didn't go through the same. You didn't go through the same thing, right? I don't care what you're talking about. Because you can. You can. You can go back to your community and pretend and do. I'm in this skin period. We from the South. I don't care what you're doing up north, right? Come down here, because I'm gonna tell you this. You ain't gonna say that in front of somebody that you respect, right? They'll never sit on the couch with. With Roland Martin or Farrakhan or. Or any of these guys that. That they respect and. And be inward, inward, inward, inward, inward. You wouldn't do it. You're not gonna do that in front of my grandma. And she don't understand. She don't understand me kicking with you like that. My uncles don't understand. He'll. They all let. Oh, you. You from now, bro, you not from this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Ali Sadiq]

So when people give people passes on that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you don't get no, I can't do it.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I. And I watch. I watch entertainers. Coward to these people. Because you're not gonna do. And see, that's the other thing that, that sparked me up. Hey, bro, I know better. I know better, right? Because if inside them walls, you ain't gonna do it, because you know what the problem is? It's a problem. All that old. I'm hip to the culture. Oh, man, all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you ain't from the culture.

[Ali Sadiq]

You ain't from the culture.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you don't get no pass.

[Ali Sadiq]

And I, I, man, I. I can't. I can't do it. I just can't do it. Just like, watch this. What racial slurs do we grow up having for other people?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we. But we don't use them. I. No, I ain't never felt. Because I had a. A white friend or I didn't have Jewish friends until. I didn't know they were Jewish when I was growing up. Until I got. Until the interface. Until I got. I started working at cbs. But I know slurs, but I wouldn't say that.

[Ali Sadiq]

I wouldn't say it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, just because we cool.

[Ali Sadiq]

Cause that don't make you cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They not gonna tolerate it. You already know you can't use no slur to subscribe to Jewish community. It's over. It's over. So all this emotion. Oh, it's just a word. Well, if it's just a word, why can't we say it to other groups? Cause it's not just a word.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's not just a word, but they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can say it to us. And everything's supposed. That's just words.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's an unrecorded amount of people that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Died behind that word. True.

[Ali Sadiq]

Behind the whole system. Unrecorded. They can tell you how many people died doing this, but it's unrecorded. How many of us actually died in that slave trade? But then we got the. We. We got the audacity. Want to kill each other or say the history don't matter. You know how crazy that sound?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[Ali Sadiq]

Because we wouldn't be sitting here. You wouldn't be able to do what you doing on no level. Without the sacrifice of our ancestors. I'm talking about the real sacrifice. It's easy to say whatever now, but what about when you could not talk true? They would cut your tongue out your mouth. That's crazy. They would cut your tongue out of your Mouth. But you have no type of honor for your ancestors. They would bury a woman in the ground while she was trying to give birth. For entertainment. They would burn you and chop you up and throw you in a river. But you have no honor for them. Man, you insane. You're insane. That's what's wrong. This. I don't think they understand. Prison really made me understand. Really made me understand. I'm so apologetic for what I did to in the streets. I'm so apologetic. I don't, I don't make it light. I don't try to honor it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't try to glamorize it.

[Ali Sadiq]

But not at all. Because I'm so offend, man. I remember being in Frisco. Big shout out to Roy Woods Jr. And my man Chris Cotton. Chris Cotton passed. Man, I'm so, I'm such. I'm in such a dark place. Cause we at this comedy, Comedy Central has this comedy convention. And I'm walking from my hotel to the spot where we performing at and I'm there for days and I keep trying to walk different ways to avoid all these homeless, drugged out people because it's just breaking my heart. And I said to myself, I said, man, what did I do to contribute to this? Because this is a chemical generation based upon the people who I sold drugs to. These, this, these are they offspring. And I'm, I'm so affected and I'm. And I'm not doing well. And I'm talking to Chris and Roy woods is telling me this story about what he's going to say on this storytelling show that we about to do. And it lightened me up because I was so depressed about my contributions to this. I'm so, I, I don't think I got a lot of remorse. Like people like, I ain't got no regrets, man. I do. I, I regret ever picking up a 50 pack. I do. It's because it, the ramifications of it is so crazy. We talking about people who we weren't allowed to read, wasn't allowed to do certain things. So how dare I come and set us back destroying more people, more families? It's not one person, it's a family is going through this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll be impacted.

[Ali Sadiq]

So in prison, this is the closest that you ever get to slavery. I'm a judicial slave and I know it from the jump. Reading history, knowing history. I come in, they strip you down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Ali Sadiq]

That man put his fingers in my mouth to make sure I have nothing in my mouth. I got to squat, hold my My butt open for the officer spread. You, you got to do all this. You are you they dehumanizing. They give you a number. They shave your head down, give you a number, like branding you. They put you on a bus, they chain you to another person and you riding for hours and miles. The bus is the ship. I'm still chained. They put you on a farm and you work no pay. They feed you very little. You in a sale, the man. They on a horse, right? You getting mentally whipped. You getting abused. The craziest thing about being in prison was this. I wasn't worried about no inmates. I was worried about the officers. Because a lot of these officers you. You locked up. And you in these small towns, everybody family, any day of the week, you could have died and they could have covered you up. You 800 miles from home. The closest communication is a letter. You gotta wait for that to get there. They could kill you and say, whatever happened, who gonna find out?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody.

[Ali Sadiq]

You know what I'm saying? That's. It's people that die in the county jail. They put them in there and they. And they tuck them away. There's people, families down there that's dying. Like, if I do my best, if somebody I know go to jail, I do my best to bond you out, man. You gotta fight for your freedom or fight for your situation when you're on the street. Cause I know what happened in there. Anything can happen in there. So I've seen people get stabbed up, just left in their cell. Don't nobody know until the, the. The next shift. I've seen officers beat people up real bad, put you in the hole. They don't know if you in there breathing or not. This is the closest to slavery you ever be. And once you understand this condition, you don't want no young kids in this position. You don't want no old people in this position. You have a healthy respect for the ancestors. What they went through, just what they went through, right? And to not honor that, to not be an honorable person. And I have. Bro, when I. When I see somebody of my same ethnic group, I'm always gonna smile at you. Cause I'm happy to see you. We frown each other too much that we don't even know each other. What you frowning for? Cause you have this Persona. I don't have to have no Persona of being tough. I already know I'm tough. I'm just like, I see. Hey, why, like you see guys in pictures, they not smiling. Why? Something wrong with your teeth? Something wrong with your attitude. Something wrong with your heart. And that's the thing. A lot of people, they heart. They got. They got a heart condition. They got black spots on their heart. What's wrong with the heart? What's the man. The community. And we still in. We still in the same condition that we were in the 50s.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Same condition, some situations worse.

[Ali Sadiq]

And people think that they. Oh, they better. Cause you got some money, man. Money don't really make you nothing. And a lot of people not putting. No, they're not putting no deposits in their spiritual bank account. They finance. They got financial money. But what about your spiritual bank account? What about the things that the creator gonna count, right? What about those things? Stop doing everything for show. Because it's not. It's not a. It's not a real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over for that, Ollie. The Internet doesn't ruin that.

[Ali Sadiq]

No, no, Janet. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta make you believe that I'm something that I'm not. Why else would you like me?

[Ali Sadiq]

I'mma like you, period.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you won't.

[Ali Sadiq]

Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because they believe that you won't. I know what you're saying, but you see, I mean, the Internet be something I be on ig. They have me question.

[Ali Sadiq]

I liked you before the Internet, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm saying when you was with the.

[Ali Sadiq]

Broncos, I liked you when you was with you, before the Internet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you think about it, how many times people take. Go rent a car, a nice car, rent a house, go take. Spend $5,000 just to go take pictures like they're going on a private jet.

[Ali Sadiq]

See, people that do that is crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They are.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's like people who go on vacation and come back to bills. That's really not a vacation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. I don't understand that. You take out a loan to go on vacation. Why would you do that?

[Ali Sadiq]

Cause you gotta be seen taking the. Hey, I could take that. First of all, I'm not living to take a picture. I do a lot of stuff that a picture ain't there for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Ali Sadiq]

I'm not. Why do I need the picture? What's wrong with the memory up here?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, see it.

[Ali Sadiq]

My man. I. I went somewhere and I didn't tell nobody where I was at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't need to. Let me ask you this. When you started selling, obviously when you're. When you're young and you selling drugs, the older guard feel they can take advantage of. They feel they can run down on you because you young. What did you say you went to jail at what, 19?

[Ali Sadiq]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So 19. Did people steal your stuff? Did people take Your stuff.

[Ali Sadiq]

Take what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your drugs.

[Ali Sadiq]

Damn. I went to jail four days after I turned 19.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, you ain't even getting.

[Ali Sadiq]

I partied really, really hard. So I wasn't on the streets at 19. So my birthday is October 17th, right, October 21st. I'm locked up. Okay, okay. So before that, I got robbed one time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How'd he get a drop on you?

[Ali Sadiq]

Me thinking fair business. I dealt with these people before thinking fair business. I get there and they draw down on me and I said, man, what we doing? And people took my drugs and they, they put me in my own trunk. I had a brown Monte Carlo. What I, I would pull up and I'm. And I'm in the trunk and I'm. Duct tape. And what I was mad about, I had just moved my tire and I was supposed to put it back. Just put the tire back in there. I ain't put the tire back in there. Right. So I'm in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uncomfortable.

[Ali Sadiq]

Uncomfortable on this tire. And I mean, I'm doing bad, right? So when that happened, that changed the whole temperature of the game for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So now you don't trust nobody.

[Ali Sadiq]

Don't trust nobody. And I got them back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that the mindset that you have to have? That you really don't have friends? You really can't trust nobody in this situation. Because the moment you let your guard down and start to trust, that's when somebody get the edge on you. You.

[Ali Sadiq]

I thought, I thought it was honor amongst these. And then it changed. Out of nowhere, it just changed. Just like hip hop folks was rapping positive and then all of a sudden they weren't right. Everybody was selling, it's like everybody was selling drugs. But when I came up, it was all type of rappers. None of them was talking about selling drugs. Nope, none of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But one of your biggest advocates was your mom. Your mom bailed you out several times.

[Ali Sadiq]

Once. See.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, your mom bailed you out at 16. She put up 2000.

[Ali Sadiq]

Uh huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She misspoke. The truth under oath. You bought your mom, you bought your mom a car. I mean, you was doing a lot. Yeah, you put your mom in the situation though, bro.

[Ali Sadiq]

Yeah, but what's crazy, when I was beefing with a particular ethnic group, these Colombians, we in a war with these people. It'll take me forever to get to my mama's house. Cause I never, I would never go to her crib. Unless I'm taking all type of routes. Make sure anybody following me, getting out, going in places, coming back around, I, I was doing a lot man, just go see my mama. I didn't, I, I. And I stayed away a lot because I was in these beasts. And these people would kill my family, right? Because I would do the same for them. They didn't want, they didn't want me to know where they was at because we beefing this. And this is, this is what a beef is when you beefing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Ali Sadiq]

It's no safety in this. Yeah, like once you say, oh, we in the beef, man, you ain't in no beef. You, you probably y'all, y'all, y'all arguing with each other, but you ain't no beef. Cause the beef, man, is bad. Yeah, man, people kill your brother, kill your mama, kill your cousins just to flush you out, just to get you to come out. That's a beef. Ain't no rule. Ain't no rules to it besides to kill or be killed. But you don't want to do none of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

Cleans like Clorox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

Okay, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ali Sadiq]

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