Club Shay Shay - Andrew Schulz Part 1

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay - Andrew Schulz Part 1

Introduction

In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe welcomes renowned comedian Andrew Schulz for a deep and candid conversation. Hosted by iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media, the show delves into Schulz's journey in the comedy world, his approach to humor, personal experiences, and his perspectives on various social topics.

Comedy Style and Influences

Andrew Schulz is celebrated for his no-holds-barred approach to stand-up comedy, characterized by straightforward humor and razor-sharp wit. Shannon Sharpe introduces Schulz with high praise, highlighting his fearless crowd work and ability to engage diverse audiences. Schulz recounts his early inspirations, mentioning iconic figures like Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac, and Patrice O'Neal.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [35:30]: “The first person I ever listened to do stand up was Eddie Murphy. It was my father. He put in a cassette tape.”

Experiences with Criticism and Stereotypes

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on Schulz's handling of stereotypes and the backlash comedians often face. Schulz emphasizes his belief that "everyone gets these jokes" and that comedy should challenge societal norms without prescribing what individuals find offensive.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [08:04]: “I don't think comedians should be telling people what they can or can't be offended by.”

Schulz shares anecdotes from his early career, including an incident where he was punched on stage for a joke, illustrating the physical risks involved in pushing comedic boundaries.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [09:42]: “Early in my career, I just wasn't good at making things funny. I think I'm pretty good at, like, getting away with that now on stage.”

Personal Life and Relationships

Shannon and Andrew delve into Schulz's personal life, touching on his relationships and family influences. Schulz discusses the importance of community support, inspired by his grandmother Mary Porter, who played a pivotal role in his upbringing.

• Notable Quote:
  Shannon Sharpe [67:29]: “I appreciate that, man. You caught a lot of criticism.”

The conversation also explores racial dynamics in relationships, with Schulz highlighting the challenges and societal perceptions surrounding interracial dating.

Influence of Other Comedians and Industry Dynamics

Schulz speaks highly of fellow comedians like Dave Chappelle and Joe Rogan, recognizing their influence and benevolent nature in the industry. He contrasts this with the competitive and sometimes resentful atmosphere among comedians, emphasizing the "cost of success."

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [88:28]: “He’s a benevolent king. Most people that have the disposition that, like, allows them to become powerful are not good.”

Views on Community and Cultural Identity

The episode touches on broader themes of community support and cultural identity. Schulz draws parallels between different communities, such as the Jewish and Somali communities, and discusses the unique challenges faced by Black Americans in building a cohesive cultural identity.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [48:07]: “As a black dude in America, either you're gay or you're part of the Illuminati.”

Challenges in the Modern Comedy Landscape

Schulz addresses contemporary issues in comedy, including the ease of joke dissemination via the internet and the phenomenon of joke theft. He stresses the importance of originality while acknowledging that similar ideas can emerge independently.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [77:35]: “There are jokes that I do or have done that I've seen other people kind of do. Similar. And like my knee jerk reaction isn't that guy's a thief. My knee jerk reaction is like, oh, I thought it was a more unique idea than it is, but maybe somebody else also had a unique idea.”

Personal Anecdotes and Humor

Throughout the episode, Schulz and Sharpe share humorous exchanges and personal stories, adding a light-hearted dimension to the conversation. Schulz humorously discusses his experiences with sports, his physique, and interactions with other personalities like Ryan Seacrest.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [35:20]: “I played basketball and then boxing. I did in college a bit.”

Conclusion

As the first half of the episode wraps up, Shannon Sharpe and Andrew Schulz reflect on the impact of mentorship, the importance of community, and the personal sacrifices involved in achieving success. Schulz remains steadfast in his commitment to his comedic style, despite facing criticism and challenges.

• Notable Quote:
  Andrew Schultz [94:16]: “There's a lot of gratitude towards him [Joe Rogan]. He's a person who... wants power and wants to help.”

Looking Forward

The conversation concludes with a tease for Part 2 of the episode, promising to continue exploring Schulz's insights and experiences. Listeners are encouraged to follow Club Shay Shay on their preferred podcast platforms to stay updated on the ongoing dialogue.

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This detailed summary encapsulates the rich and dynamic conversation between Shannon Sharpe and Andrew Schulz, highlighting key discussions on comedy, personal life, community, and societal issues. Through engaging anecdotes and thoughtful reflections, the episode offers valuable insights into the world of stand-up comedy and the resilience required to thrive in it.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Drake or Kendrick?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I mean, Kendrick won. It's not even a question. Right. Like, he won. Of course he won. Of course he won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you was gonna go the other way. Cause y'all had a little friction.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I'm still objective.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I prefer Drake's music, of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

So does Deb. So does the rest of the world. All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle paid the price wanna slice got to roll a dice that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why all my life I've been grinding.

[Andrew Schultz]

All my life all my life been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Grinding Sacrifice, hustle paid the price wanna.

[Andrew Schultz]

Slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. And today we're at Spotlight la, stopping by for conversation and a drink. Today, he's taken the comedy world by storm. He's one of the most daring and dynamic voices on the planet today. He's widely recognized for his no hold bar styles of standup, straightforward humor and razor sharp wit. He's praised for testing boundaries with his writing and his approach to the most divisive topics. He pushes the limits on stage, on screen, online, reshaping and redefining the landscape. He's known for his fearless crowd work, wild opticuff interaction and cutting edge commentary. He draws some of the most diverse audience among any working comedian globally and nationally. Recognized as selling out arenas, Madison Square Garden, the Forum and the Crip.com arena on back to back nights. A pioneer in direct to fan content distribution, he's one of the has one of the most watched comedy specials on YouTube. He's been the most viewed comic on YouTube twice. He's also went number one on the Billboard comedy album charts, itunes, Apple Music, Amazon Angle, Globe, Google Play. He's renowned for being social media savvy and a marketing genius. A top tier talent, actor, podcaster, director, producer, host, businessman, creator who isn't afraid of controvers, controversy, unfiltered, unapologetic, unabashed personality. Some call him the people's champ. He lives by the saying, everyone gonna get these jokes. Andrew Schultz.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow. That is. That's amazing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's you, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I watched, I watched, I watched you do Gillies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And just seeing him get so excited with that big hat during it and then I was imagining what I was gonna walk into and that is. That is pretty awesome. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I feel great when you hear all of that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you thinking?

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm just embarrassed if I'm going to be totally honest, you know, I just. Yeah, I mean it feels great. It feels very cool, you know, but it's. Yeah, that's. That's so cool. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what?

[Andrew Schultz]

You got me off guard here, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, I'm rarely off guard. Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is my personal cognac.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to congratulate you on the Netflix that's out now. Thank you, bro. You doing it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You doing it, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I try.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cheers. Oh, that's good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Want to take another?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, let's take another one. Oh, he wants me to talk some today. I'm not talking about eight comedians. I'm not talking about eight comedians. All comedians are great. All of them. We love all comedians. Okay, who we talking shit about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoever you watch.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how you feeling today?

[Andrew Schultz]

I feel good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You feel good?

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you bigger now or when you played?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now. Now. I don't have. I mean, I played at 228. I'm around 245. 250.

[Andrew Schultz]

250 now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jesus Christ.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't have to.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you on anything Peptides or anything like?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

You look magnificent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I work out, I eat. I wreck what I eat.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, if you didn't work out, I would shoot myself right now. I mean, it's unbelievable. It is kind of crazy, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I've always been in shape, you know, growing up, how I grew up, you. And I was talking off camera earlier. Growing up on a farm.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, your stor. It's just so unbelievable. Cause I was telling you before, I was like, I'm researching you, like, your life. I first started, obviously, I watched the beautiful speech that you gave. That was for your recognition, but you made it about everybody else in your life, which I thought was a really beautiful moment. And usually only happens when somebody feels really full. You know, when we feel full, we can have the excess and we can give it to those people. And like, making that moment about them, I thought was just incredible. That was awesome. I got a little emotional, not gonna lie. And just watching your brother exhale through his mouth, there's that moment where he just goes. He's like, I'm not about to cry in front of all these people right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I won't cry.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it was beautiful. It was great, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate it, man. Thanks for joining us.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Check this out. I read on Instagram where you said fans said you're one of the last people on earth who can be canceled or never canceled when you hear comments like that, given your approach to comedy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you think? What goes through your mind when you hear stuff like that?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know what is being canceled anymore. What do you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Being canceled?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you almost got canceled when you were doing the porn or whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody seen nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know what really happened. Can I get, like, the off screen of that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Was it just you two on the bed, just going like this and not even having. I need the security cam footage of you just being like, hey, pant harder, pants harder.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? I wish that had never happened, but, you know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey, no, you don't. That shit was amazing. Was it embarrassing for you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really? Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've never been on IG Live.

[Andrew Schultz]

That was the embarrassing part.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I mean, think about it. The first. Think about it. Your first foray into IG Live and that's what you get.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I Didn't think that that would be. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I mean, look, I'm a very private person and for me to be putting my family in that situation. Cause now I'm a type of guy, I don't like anybody to explain anything for Shannon. Because now you ask my sister, you ask my brother, you ask my kids, they have to offer an explanation for Shannon.

[Andrew Schultz]

Got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shannon's a grown man grandfather also, so I should be able to answer question for myself.

[Andrew Schultz]

I didn't know you were a granddad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About to be two time granddad. My son's about to have a chat. Why you crying?

[Andrew Schultz]

So it was embarrassing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was, it was very embarrassing. I mean, look, first of all, I'm on the Disney. I'm with, I work for the company that got the mouse with ears.

[Andrew Schultz]

But we were rooting for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, nah, we were. Everybody tuned in. Cause we wanted to see the work, you know what I mean? We were like, I think Shannon putting in work over here, dude. Like I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I acquitted the 50 year old really quite well. Let me ask you this. Why are you comfortable going after so many groups? Why do you feel like your no hold bars approach is the best way to drive head first into college?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't go after anybody. That's the way I look at it. I mean everybody gets these jokes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how you feel?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, like I'm just curious about people, you know, and it's just so. I don't know if it's growing up in New York where we had all these different, you know, ethnicities. Yeah, everybody's so different. Like my friend group was completely different and there are these little idiosyncrasies about each person that were just so funny. And I was just interested about it and then. And like learning about these different groups was just great. So I kind of learn and I dig in and I try to find something that maybe they would never expect a guy like me to know about. And what I've seen is usually when you make fun of somebody and it's not like a hacky, low hanging fruit thing, but it's something like really specific that that group is not aware that anybody else knows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's out of them.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, they appreciate it. They feel seen, you know, and that's kind of what people want. They just want like representation in a cool way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So do you, have you ever felt bad about like, damn, I probably shouldn't have said that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I mean I feel more bad about like when jokes just are, you know, What I mean, like, it takes a lot of jokes to make a good joke, right? You know what I mean? It's like every time you run a route, you're not gonna get a touchdown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna wait. Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, but you have to run it every single time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct?

[Andrew Schultz]

So it's like, that's what we gotta do. We gotta shoot. Shoot or shoot. You shoot every single time, right? And we fail. You know what I mean? Like, badly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you ever told a joke that was bad and that you like, well, if I tell it like this, it might get better. And you keep refining. Because Cass says that's the process.

[Andrew Schultz]

That really is the process. Like, you have a funny idea and you're like, okay, how can I make this? How can I get people to laugh at it? Right? Like, the idea to you is kind of funny, and then the skill is, you know, sharpening that tool. Like, when I was early in comedy, like, I just wasn't good at making things funny, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

I thought I was funny. You know, my friends might have been like, oh, you're funny, whatever. Like that. I really want to try it, but I just wasn't good enough. Okay. Like, I remember I got punched on stage once, and I was just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got punched?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah. Like, I used to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guys ran up on you on stage?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, it was. This is a shout out to Smokey, man. Smokey had a room at Cafe Mocha. This is, like, up in Harlem in New York. And. And. And. And he would. He would let me go up on stage all the time. And I think it was the first time I was at Cafe Mocha when I. And a guy and I was just making fun of some guy in the front row, but I wasn't funny enough yet, right? Like, I wasn't able to do it at that point where he also found it funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

He just thought that I was coming into his neighborhood. And then I'm clowning on him, and he got up and he punched me. And they grabbed him. They grabbed me. They threw him out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? They grabbed you. Hell, he punched you.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I was asking. And then I remember Smokey handed me back the mic and he was like, all right, man, keep doing your thing. I was like, what do you mean? Isn't the show over? Like, there's gotta be a lawsuit for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You supposed to have stolen.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's how I tell the story. So it looks like I didn't fight him back. I'm like, yeah, they grabbed me real Quick. So I couldn't get them. That was the issue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Going after so many groups. The lbgtq. Mexicans, Indians, Asians, Muslim, blind people. Blacks, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, is there anybody that haven't taken offense to something you. Is there any group that hasn't taken offense to something you've said?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I think everybody can. Like, that's the thing that I think is tricky is, like, I don't think comedians should be telling people what they can or can't be offended. Offended by.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you could be offended by whatever you want, right? You know, like, you know, some people, like, they really care about their mom, and they don't want anybody saying mom jokes. Yeah, some people don't give a. About their mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Andrew Schultz]

So say whatever you want. So I think it's like, comedians, it's not our position to tell people what they should be offended by. Like, you are allowed to react however you want. You can be offended. But just don't tell me I can't tell the joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Does that make sense?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It does make sense, but everybody. I look at it like this. Everybody. Don't view things through the prism of view. If that is funny. Some people, like, take, you know, what, you telling jokes, but, you know, you hiding behind those jokes, but that's truly how you really feel.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, how I feel in what way? That's a good question. Yeah, but, like, how I feel in what way?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Some people, like, oh, I was just joking. Nah, you really feel that way? You really think I'm this or you really think I'm that, or you really think this group is like this? You see what I'm saying?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I guess it depends on the joke, you know, like, sometimes their jokes are, like, I guess, tap into truth, you know, for sure. But it would just depend on the joke, you know? But I get what you're saying. Like, they think you're using, like, a joke as a smokescreen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wouldn't dedicate my, like, entire life to comedy just to use jokes as a smokescreen to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm not saying. No, no, no, no. I don't think it's a situation where your entire set is based on that, but I think sometimes people try to fire off one. Like, you know what? I'm gonna say this a joke right here, and this kind of. I kind of really do feel this way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, if they feel that way, like, if, like a lot of. Yeah, if they feel that way, then maybe that's up. Especially if it's offensive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, I think that when you don't feel that way is when you have the liberty to say the craziest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like I say the craziest to the people I love the most. You know what I mean? Like, if me and you are, like, friends, and you're not kind of roasting me or clowning me a little bit, I don't really trust you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I'm like, what's up with this cornball who hasn't said something up to me? Like, what is he plotting? What does he want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got black friends like that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, that's how you build a relationship with people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, we gonna have to give away some years. We ain't finna be gay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh. I always tell. I always say, like, with black people, like, if a white dude isn't, like, a little racist around you, then you shouldn't trust me. Yeah. If he's not a little racist around you, you can't. Because what is he thinking? He's thinking way more RA over here. You gotta be a little like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gotta keep that to himself, Andrew.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you gotta let a little out. Just a little out, just to know that you're.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That I got to lay him out.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you have to fight. You have to fight. That would, you know, reward a stereotype. See?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gotta be a little racist to him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, nah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're telling me you spent all that time in locker rooms in the NFL and you were all politically correct? That's what I was talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But back then.

[Andrew Schultz]

Don't talk about Troy Palomalu. That might offend the Hawaiian people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, we didn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

What'd you say about that white guy on the Broncos?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It would. No, it would be.

[Andrew Schultz]

What'd you say about Elway?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nothing. Passing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had to be. You gotta realize you dealing with hyper, hyper, hyper masculine men.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They will fight you on the drop of a hat.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anything. Anything. If you. No, no, you couldn't do that, Andrew. All that joke's in the locker room, and people ain't going for that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but that's where the skill comes in. The funny people can do it. I have a hard time believing you were biting your tongue around this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, because, you know, look, we joke about certain things, make fun of what guys wore. We joke with your outfit.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what we're talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We joke on your outfit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You make fun of someone, but we not finna. You not finna just get up here and make. No.

[Andrew Schultz]

What happened? You Break.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you done. You gotta.

[Andrew Schultz]

You gotta get the real Tiffany's, bro. You can't get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you know what it is, though? How?

[Andrew Schultz]

I got a wife. You know what they don't know about the Tiffany.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't buy no Tiffany for you.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's trying to spend all this money. I gotta start selling cognac.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're gonna give you a little.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What I'm trying to say is, like, you've made fun of your friends, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So for sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

For dressing a certain way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what was that joke about? Like what. Was it targeted towards any specific community, perhaps, or. No?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think probably not. No, no, no, no, Kudrev. I was making a joke about what he was wearing. Not that his ethnicity. Cause I didn't care what he had on it.

[Andrew Schultz]

But what did you think that. What was he wearing? Did it look like. Not very masculine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, he looked like. He looked like a 70s drug dealer. He had a gold chain on with a polyester shirt, and it was bust open.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that's fire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I had to know.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It should have been set fire, but it wasn't fire.

[Andrew Schultz]

So it is fun to make fun of each other. And, like, when you grew up in a kind of way that I grew up again, I don't know how you grew up. Like, I. You know how we. In the country. So I don't know if it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just, oh, we made fun of people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was. I mean, look. But we stayed with, like, it was, like, it was in the late 60s and the 70s. Blacks were here, white were over here.

[Andrew Schultz]

It was quite segregate. So I went to public school in New York.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So there's no. You don't get to be segregated. You know what I mean? Like, we're all in this together, and the Chinese dudes are snapping on the Puerto Rican dudes, and the Puerto Rican dudes are snapping on the white dudes. The white dudes snapping on the black dudes. It wasn't really. There wasn't really any sort of, like, discomfort. But that's all we knew, you know? And that's kind of how we built our relationships. So, to me, it's like the most normal thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

You know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I remember even when I would tell stories of, like, going up to do, like, the quote unquote, black rooms, there's like a chitlin circuit in, like, in, like, comedy. And they're like, you know, some people who weren't really from New York. You do the Black rooms. And I was like, yeah. And to me, I didn't realize that. It was, like, an odd thing, right? I was like, it's just in New York, like, it didn't seem like a weird. It's not like this, like, crazy idea. I'm not, like, walking across, like, this specific street and everything changes. But I guess to other people that don't grow up like that, it might be a little weird. They're a little, like, shocked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you say to people that said, look, bro, you just devil. You just deal in stereotypes. I mean, you take a stereotype or take a group. Yeah, maybe.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, they're right. It depends what the stereotype is. I try to get really nuanced with it, but, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Stereotypes are funny. Do you know what I mean? You never mess around with stereotypes. Like, what's your manager and. Or lawyer or agent?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jewish.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I don't. I don't. No. Hell no. I'm not uncancelable. That's.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm uncancel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't fool around with it. No jokes about that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not at all. Nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's give him a call. What is it, Friday? They're about to turn the phones off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They. Sure, they. They will be taking no calls, man. I'm shutting it down.

[Andrew Schultz]

They'll take a call if you got something to sell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you, what about Karen?

[Andrew Schultz]

We getting off the Jew topic immediately?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Karen. Is that a stereotype?

[Andrew Schultz]

Karen? What's a Karen woman?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The white woman that's complaining that you like.

[Andrew Schultz]

You be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you doing here? Yes, Karen, get off my. Get off my lawn. I haven't seen you in this neighborhood before. Who are you?

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, like, you should be able to tell someone, get off your lawn. It's your lawn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but I'm saying that's just a figure of speech.

[Andrew Schultz]

The other ones, I think are annoying. But if someone's on your lawn, like, if I was just showing up on your lawn and I'm walking around on it yelling stereotypes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no. I. I think the thing is, is that how they be trying to police the community? How they like, oh, I've never seen you here before. Where do you live at? What's your apartment number? I mean, what's your house? Who are you?

[Andrew Schultz]

Annoying, right? Yeah, yeah, super annoying. Yeah. I don't lie. I don't love the Karens until otil. Until you live in, like, an apartment building. See, you're a really rich guy. You don't. You don't Live in apartment building.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did.

[Andrew Schultz]

You did. At one point when you were normal like us, you lived in an apartment. But now you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I was out here. I was in Cali. I was living in Cali and I lived in a high rise now, but it's just. It's just. It's just hard, man. I mean, to have to wait for the elevator. I know, it's brutal. And one of them get broken, and then there's only one operational elevator.

[Andrew Schultz]

How you gonna have all the girls coming up in there? You know what I mean? They gotta take the stairs now they're sweaty now they're out of breath.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then I gotta. You know me, I don't ride the elevator with single women. Yes, you cannot do that. If a single woman is on the elevator, I gotta.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, wait. Why don't you. Cause they just get too horny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don' why do they guess? Sometimes the mention of impropriety is enough to sway people's opinion of somebody.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I don't do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if a single woman's going to go into an elevator, I'm not getting on it. And what do they think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't, like, I don't let. I don't let. I don't let women's servants come into my room to bring food.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

If they come to clean the room, I leave the room, I sit in the hallway till they're done, then I go back into the room.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, have you ever like blown someone's mind with that? Like, has a girl, like, has a girl ever done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they just. I mean, a lot of times when people see me, like, okay, you can get on. I was like, no, I'll wait till the other. They say, no, it's fine. And I just, I just keep it moving like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

And do you think that they're thinking there's like some reverse racism thing there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't know what they're thinking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you clutch your purse when white.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women walk around talking about cross bodied? Nah. Cause if they get. Cause if they. If they get. If I'm on the elevator by myself and a woman steps on, I'll get off.

[Andrew Schultz]

White women only or black women, it doesn't matter. So you won't enter an elevator with a black woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't get a. Flip it. Single. A single.

[Andrew Schultz]

I refuse to ride in an elevator.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With a black woman. No, it don't matter what color.

[Andrew Schultz]

I just want to let you know, black women. I will ride in the elevator.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There you go, Gary.

[Andrew Schultz]

Unlike Unk, I will Ride in the elevator with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, but you do realize, like, sometimes that in history, stereotypes have impacted people, a certain group of people, in a negative way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah. If it's a negative stereotype.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. But you, you dwell, you go into that, sometimes you're not, you don't like, you know what I. Yeah, I mean.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think intention is everything, you know what I mean? Like, I think my intention is to like bring joy and make people laugh. So that's, that's what I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you do realize that intent only matters to you. The group that you're talking about is still equally as offended if they're offended.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think a lot of times we assume that people don't like humor, but I think for the most part, Americans like to laugh and we like to laugh at each other. So I bank on Americans having a sense of humor over them not having a sense of humor 100% of the time, because we're not a humorless culture. There are cultures that are humorous and they don't get. But part of America, like, we love laughing at, like, it don't matter who it is. They could be the most radioactive person in the world. It could be Donald Trump. There was this Indian guy trying to ask Donald Trump a question. Did you see that? It was in like a press conference. And this Indian guy had the thickest Indian accent ever. He's speaking English though. But it's just, it's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's broken.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he's like, minute, third time, whatever, he's doing the whole thing. And Trump just cuts him off and goes, I don't know what the hell this guy's saying now when he says that Americans, we die laughing at him. Cuz it's just this insane moment that happened. The poor guy's just trying to ask a question. He got a thick fucking accent, right? It is what it is. But I think Americans have a sense of humor about shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this, what do you think?

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you think we have a sense of humor? Do you think comedy should be policed?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but look, the way I am, if somebody tells me something is offensive to them, I'm good. I don't need to go back in there. I don't say, well, this is my right to say whatever I want to say. I don't look at it like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

So if one person told you, I'm offended that you sell alcohol and drink alcohol on your show, you would say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hell no. Because this isn't about them. This is about Me. But if I said something.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I said something about a group.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now you're getting it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but if I say something about a group, if. Let's just say an Indian or Asian American says, I'm good. I don't need the whole company. I don't need the whole 15 million people to say something.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, ready? I don't like your takes on football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what if a football player said, no, I don't dislike your takes. But what if a football player said, one football player, not the whole group. One football player said, I don't like your takes. Would you stop playing football? Would you stop talking about football?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Because I'm not talking about. I'm not talking stereotypically. I'm not trying to demean him. I'm critiquing his play. That's what I'm doing. I'm talking about based on my knowledge of the game, having played the game, having studied the game, having covered the game, I'm basing my opinion solely on my intimate knowledge of the game. It's not about you. I'm not talking about what you might have done off the field. I'm not talking about anything other than that.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about basketball?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

You never played basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I never played basketball.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you still have an opinion on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I still have an opinion.

[Andrew Schultz]

And that opinion sometimes rubs people the wrong way. It does, but you keep talking about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But again, I'm talking about their play, not their ethnicity. Not something that they have maybe have done that people have talked about for 100, 200 years. There's a difference. I believe stereotype is. I'm not stereotyping that player.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not saying. Well, because Luke is white, he can't jump.

[Andrew Schultz]

You talk about. You're saying specifically stereotypes. Yes, but what if, like, it's a cultural analysis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it all depends. I mean, if it's a situation where.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, Is there a specific thing that you're referencing for me? Because maybe I can. I can speak to. It seems like you're hung up on this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, I'm not hung up because I look at guys that do the edgy comedy. Yes. And I do believe that's kind of where you go. You like to live on the edges. You like, damn, this middle. This middle is too safe in here. I need to be right up to the edge. I mean, you know what? Let me look over there. You know what? As a matter of fact, let me put my foot over the edge. That's how you look at it.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the fun. Well, it depends not to plug my special, but my current special is just me not being able to get my wife pregnant. Cause my sperm sucks. So it's like, I could also go to Abu Dhabi and make fun of them about the interesting cultural observations I've made. And then I could talk about the things that are difficult and vulnerable in my life. So it depends. And there's some people that might be offended, but there's also, like, multiple arenas of people who are specifically coming out to see me make fun of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you had sold out back at the Forum and the Crips. You sold out Madison Square Garden, so.

[Andrew Schultz]

And like, when you look at the audiences at my shows, I would be, like, concerned if I was in your situation, if it was just like, all white people and we're just laughing at minorities.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

That'd be weird, right? But when you look at it and it looks like the UN to me, it's like mortgage born. Yeah. It's the proof in the pudding, right? It's like, wow, these people actually enjoy seeing this. And they don't, like, they don't like Karen's telling them what they should or shouldn't laugh at. Most people that I see policing jokes are like some white guy on NPR from Maine who's never had a minority friend who's like, white people should not be doing this. And then minorities are too sensitive. We cannot make a joke about them at all. Their feelings get hurt. They're so weak. And it's like, to me, that's racist. It's racist that you assume that they can't take jokes, right? Like, all the minorities I grew up with, we were, you know, giving each other dozens nonstop. It was just a normal thing for us to do. So that's my experience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. Have you told a joke on stage and you look around and you see people that look like you waiting around to see who else laughed before they laugh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Bro. You know what? That white people do that. If you tell a black joke and there's a black person there, they'll always. They'll go like this or like, yeah. They'll be like, is the black guy laughing? They'll be like, ah, that shit is funny. Isn't it funny? Like, so white people will do that. They're more polite. But non white people, like minorities, they laugh at everybody. They usually don't give a. Like, they're not concerned. They're laughing. White people are a little bit More concerned. They wanna make sure. They wanna be like, okay, yeah, we laughing. You're laughing. That's what I'm. Now we're on the same page. Before you acting like you're not laughing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna laugh. But my thing. I was saying that if somebody told me. I'll give you a prime example. There was a guy, his name was Fred Shimizu. He worked on camera three when I was at cbs, and I used to call him Ichiro and. Which means first born in Japanese.

[Andrew Schultz]

Was he Japanese?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you know that for a fact or you were guessing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would know that for a fact.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. So if you want to guess, just go Chinese. There's way more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. He was Japanese, and one day his sister passed, but his sister was the first born. So he comes to me, he says, shannon, he said, I know you've been calling me Ichiro for, like, the past six or seven years. He said, but my sister passed and she was the first born. I would really appreciate it if you called me by my name. Boom. I didn't say, man, I've been calling you Ichiro for six, seven years, bro. Get over it. Yeah, Fred, no problem.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, his name was Fred.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His name was Fred. Freddie Shimizu. Freddie. Shout out, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about you, Fred?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but I'm saying. That's how I operate, Andrew. That's how I operate. I didn't go back. Say, bro, I've been calling you this.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. You're not a professional comedian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're a broadcaster. That you don't need to be the camera three guy and insult his heritage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could.

[Andrew Schultz]

And dishonor his family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could be.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? But, yeah, I think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I'm gonna start telling Joe to get back Dion Cole. I'm gonna get back Dion Cole.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why? What did Dion do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, he got me at a NAACP Image Award. He said something slick.

[Andrew Schultz]

What'd he say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's talking about my clothes. Be tight.

[Andrew Schultz]

You do like to show off. I mean, you like to flirt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do I wear what?

[Andrew Schultz]

Nah, you flirting, bro. That's like. That's some. Yeah, you could wear baggier.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why don't you believe in conspicuous consumption? If you have it flaunted, you can.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

We sure would love that.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know what you just said. I went to public school, bro. Listen, you should have ct. I don't know how the you even pronounce all those words. What the. What the did he say? Conspicuous.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Conspicuous consumption.

[Andrew Schultz]

Consumption.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you have it.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you have it. Flaunted. Yes. So you are trying to show off. No, you just said you're trying to show off. Shannon, I feel gas lit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, what I'm doing is that I work out, okay? And I mean, how big? What you want me to get Triple X?

[Andrew Schultz]

So now you're showing off. Let's say a dude comes up to you and he's like, yo, I like what you're showing off. Now I know that you're about that showing off. And he's like, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean? No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean? I'm showing up. I ain't showing up. I got old clothes. I can see. If I came up here and did the interview with nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just said you. About the conspicuous. Whatever that is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Conspicuous consumption.

[Andrew Schultz]

That sounds like a Harry Potter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm saying if you have it flaunted.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, so you're saying you got it flaunted, and a guy is over here like, yo, he's flaunting. I'm trying to catch some of that flaunt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He comes up to you, bro, bro, I don't get down like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, I know you don't. We saw the video. We saw the video.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's what I'm gonna say. That's what I'm gonna say.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you say, yo, I don't get down like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's it.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's stiff, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And we done. Yeah, we done. That's done. That's it. But I don't give up that vibe. Now, people on the Internet. People on the Internet can say what they want to, but I have never.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't give off that vibe. You don't give off that vibe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've never been in a situation where somebody has approached me from the same sex. It's like.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's. But that's the thing. That's weird. It's like, you don't gotta give off the vibe. Like, no girl gives off a vibe for us to think they're hot. They're just hot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. So for you to. For me, in today's time shows you can't just. Hey, you look nice. That dress look nice on you. I ain't complimenting nobody.

[Andrew Schultz]

I got a wife. I can't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just saying, period. If it's not. If it's not my sister, my daughter's, or mine.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't getting no compliments at all.

[Andrew Schultz]

No compliments at all. Hell no. What if they have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care. I don't care if they dress like Kanye's wife. You get nothing from, oh, no, I'll compliment.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's. Well, I think we could objectively say she has huge tits.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Because you say something to somebody now, you make them feel uncomfortable.

[Andrew Schultz]

She made me feel uncomfortable. Yeah. If I saw her in person, I would feel very uncomfortable. Cause it'd be impossible not to look at what she's got. I mean, she's. Objectively speaking, we're just talking about biology, Right? She's stacked to the gills.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take your word for it, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

You've never seen it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't pick it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You getting in that elevate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

You getting in that elevate. You hitting every floor. He's just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't pay no attention.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is your love life like right now? You have a girlfriend? What's the whole thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm okay. I'm doing.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know you're okay. I know you're good. But, like, do you date? Like, how does somebody get into Shannon's world?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm private, man. I keep that stuff hush hush.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause if you date publicly, you gotta break up publicly.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ugh. And the breakup publicly is brutal. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then, you know, you change insults on Twitter or IG and you post everything, you end up on the gossip columns. I ain't trying to do that.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then they can talk about you.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you this. Yes did you play sports as a kid? Because it seems like you like sports. You know a lot about sports.

[Andrew Schultz]

I hooped. I hooped and then I boxed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You what? I hooped.

[Andrew Schultz]

I played basketball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hula hooped? Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hula hooped?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In New York City?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You were Hooper.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I was. Nice. I'm dunking on you. But you don't think that. Cause I'm white, but I'm dunking on you in the game, actually. You're big and you're probably, like, quick. It's probably tough to get by you, but. Yeah, I used to be nice at basketball. Basketball and then boxing. I did in college a bit. And then I just. My nose is too big for that shit. Like, even in the headgear, it would get hit. Yeah, like, headgear should protect your nose. But my nose would be popping right out the headgear. I'd just be getting smacked in the head. But I had a smoker.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you want to play sports? So when you were growing up, I wanted to hoop.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wanted to play ball. Like, I mean, naturally, as a kid, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to be a professional basketball player. And then, like, I played in high school and then I got, like, some, like, D3 interests, and I was like, I don't know if I'm going to go to some liberal arts college to, like, play on the team there. Like, I don't give a about that. So I went out to UC Santa Barbara, and then I just went out to school there. And I didn't play. I didn't play on the team or anything like that, but I played with guys who, like, I saw the levels, put it that way. I saw, like, I. I would play this guy in the summer, and he was a guy who played, like, D2. Like, school in Long Island. It was a Long island. Or like Philadelphia, but. And then he went and played in Europe and he was just. He was just nice. Like, he. There's just, as, you know, you're a professional athlete, there's levels to this. And I saw my level and I could have worked harder. Don't get me wrong. I could have worked hard and I could have done other things for my game, but my game was built around. I know this is going to sound maybe hilarious because of your stereotypes of me, but it was built around athleticism and length. See, look at that. Do you see this racist stereotype that you have? This is disgusting. We shouldn't allow this. I'm telling you right now that that is hurting Me. So please never do that again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Please never. I told you that that hurt my feelings. So please never talk about white people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I didn't say that. I didn't say anything. I just shook my head.

[Andrew Schultz]

Please never shake your head like that again. This is what it sounds like when people try to censor jokes. Please never talk about it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

My feelings are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you were athletic.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm tell. I'm. I'm cooking you. No problem. I know it sounds crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It does.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I would. Back in the day, I would. It's not because there's. Here's the thing. It's like. Like I invented a move called the hesi. I don't know if you're familiar with it. And basically what happens is I have a left to right cross and I have a left hesi.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's just. There's nothing you could do about it. You got to ask Jay Williams. You know Jay Williams?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Number two draft pick, right? Maybe the best college point guard ever, some people say cooked his ass on video.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I. I was just wondering about that. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, you're familiar with this, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm. I'm familiar with Jay Williams. I'm familiar with you probably.

[Andrew Schultz]

I love Jay, but I told him, you don't want this smoke. I'm going to hit you with the hesi. I'm going to cross that ass over and I'm going to hit a teardrop in your face. And then I did it. And then I won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What were your parents like?

[Andrew Schultz]

My parents owned a dance studio. They would teach dance lessons. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't want to go into the family business?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know some dancing. I know a little bit dancing, but they didn't really pressure me like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah. My dad before that was a journalist, so he would like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have siblings?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I have a little brother.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, just a little brother. And then my mom was a ballroom dancer and she was a three time US Ballroom dance champion. She's originally from Scotland. She moved here and she was 20.

[Shannon Sharpe]

20.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what type of big brother were you? Were you protective?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that why you learned how to box?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I think I learned how to box. Cause I like talking and so you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Need to be able to. Well, you ain't talking when that man jumped on stage and punching. You ain't do nothing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, I didn't learn how to box yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh.

[Andrew Schultz]

I just learned how to talk and I realized, you know, you got it backwards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Got it backwards.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Box first. Did talk ish. Later.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is that shit they say about America? It's like. Like, America, what is it? The. The first amendment is freedom of speech. Not amendment, but the first. Whatever it is. Oh, my God. I should know about this. I feel like, what is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Freedom of speech?

[Andrew Schultz]

It's freedom of speech. And then number two is you could carry a gun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right to bear arms.

[Andrew Schultz]

And there's a reason why. Right. I think it was Michael Che that had a joke about this. I'm not exactly sure, but it was like, if you gonna let people say whatever the they want, they gotta carry something to make sure. And on some level, I did probably feel that way. I was like, I gotta be able to protect myself. I like talking. Talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I will give you credit. You talk about everybody.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everybody gets these jokes. I think the second you stop doing it about one group.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Then it becomes hateful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, I see what you're saying.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because if I'm equally making fun of everybody, it's love. I genuinely want everybody to laugh right when I say the jokes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Generally, that's the goal. Like, I'm out here hoping that you come to a show or you watch online and you smile and you laugh and you have a little joy in your day. That makes me feel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much did ticket.

[Andrew Schultz]

How much does it cost? For tickets?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

To a show?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, it depends. Depends where you sit, you know? Depends what part of the venue you're okay up close. I don't know how much are tickets? Stuff? I have to ask the Jew. It can be up to 200, 250.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna watch it online.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you gotta watch it. Yeah, yeah. You can afford it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got different color diamonds on your fake Rolex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma watch it online.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is it? Did. Did you put these on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's the cotton candy.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, my God. That's like, way more fancy than I even know about with watches. You're rich, dude. No. You got money. Money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not.

[Andrew Schultz]

You dress like a Pilates instructor. Yeah, but you got money. Money. That's the thing that throws me off. You look good in the Lou. How do you not have a deal with Lulu yet?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm trying to get one.

[Andrew Schultz]

You need a. Hey, who's your guy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ria.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ria. Ria. Are you part Jewish? Dov, can you help and bestow some wisdom? There would have already been a deal. There would have already been a deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. We gonna get this deal.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes. Lululemon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. I've never asked anybody this before.

[Andrew Schultz]

How big is it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

In inches or centimeters?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That we look at it as giving you praise? How you guys stick together, come together, get money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do you guys look at that as a stereotype or frowner? Jay Z. Who is.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who is you guys?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Jewish people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I'm not Jewish. I'm not. I'm not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not Jewish?

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody thinks I'm not offended by it.

[Andrew Schultz]

How do you feel about Juicy? I'm sorry I called you that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yo, cut. Cut that Lululemon deal immediately. That is done. Okay. Please call the head. The head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to make.

[Andrew Schultz]

Call the head. Athletic, wear Jew and say no deals.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. But your parents are from Poland, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just said they're Polish.

[Andrew Schultz]

Scottish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go Scottish.

[Andrew Schultz]

Not all white people are the same. There are different countries where different white people live in Scotland.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coastal Polish.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm half. I'm half. I'm half white and I'm half Ghanaian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ghanaian, yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

From Ghana. Who's doing your research?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody. Ancestry.com.

[Andrew Schultz]

Didn'T know about me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talk about research.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait a minute. You don't think that I'm from Ghana?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll take your word for it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out Ghana, bro. Have you been to Ghana before?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have not.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, dude, that's the vibes now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it. I want to go on a safari.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's not Ghana at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I want.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're just saying that because you think Africa is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, no, no, no. I did. My ancestry. I'm. I'm 90% Nigerian.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, yes. Do you know what type of Nigerian?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they're different types.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ibo, Yoruba.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't know all that. They didn't give me all that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you got to look in. There's some beautiful stereotypes, as you would say, about the Nigerian people, but the Nigerian people are fascinating.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, maybe you can help me out. You're not Jewish, but I'm gonna ask you this question.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, yes. You were about to ask me a question about, like, why is it when.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You stick together, Lebron said, I'll speak.

[Andrew Schultz]

On behalf of all Jews for you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. But I'm just saying maybe you can help me. Maybe because you have a better understanding than I do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that. Lebron said, like, you know, I'm trying to get money like Jewish people, and they like, oh, they lost it.

[Andrew Schultz]

He said that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it was a song. It's a song.

[Andrew Schultz]

He wrote a rap song.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he didn't write a rap song. He was regurgitating the line in.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're saying if I just say a rap lyric, I could get in trouble for it? Potentially, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I guess they look at it like somebody from the opposite race saying the N word, but I'm saying getting money. How y'all. How Jewish communities stick together.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They pull together, they root for one another, blah, blah, blah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do they? Yeah, you think they do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think they do.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where are all the Jewish rappers? They seem to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I only know the Jewish rappers.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know there's, like, no. None. Jack Harlow. He looks kind of right. He got the curls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you sure?

[Andrew Schultz]

I think Jack's secretly Jewish. Dude, don't you think he's an industry plant? They call that an industry menorah. No. Why? I think that. I mean, I don't know. It depends what it is. I think it's hard to, like, I think you should look out for people that you care about. You know what I mean? Like, I imagine you do that with your friends. I've tried to build business with my friends. My friends just don't happen to all be, like, in the same community. But if you grow up in a community, it's not weird. So, like, when I see black people looking out for black people or Jews looking out for Jews, like, yeah, we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Need to do black people. We need to do that more, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

But don't you think that that's happening? Don't you think there's an effort?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not enough.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, not enough. Well, then do. Okay. How can you start? What can you do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm doing my part. See, for me.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Schultz. I don't like to tell people what I'm doing because I do it not for praise, because the way I look at something, even if I do something special. Yeah. And nobody tells me that it's special, I still believe that it's special. So I don't do it for the cameras. I don't do it to see my name in. So if I give or I donate something.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you mention my name, I won't give it to you again.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, I know you. I know you won't say this, but I just want to say that, you know, the people behind the scenes working on this are all black.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. My makeup. We're bred.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey, hey, hey, everybody. We're ready. Hey, listen, I'm just saying, you have. You are providing black jobs, and you're looking at the black community. Nobody behind the camera here is not black. I Just want to point that out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we got one. We got.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't have to count them. Those days are done. We're not doing that anymore. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell is going on? They did away with affirmative action, so I'm good. DEI is over. Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

We good? No, I honestly, I don't know. What's your thought on that? Like, do you think. I guess people, when they hear that, like, a group is looking out for one another, maybe they feel alienated by it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Is that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess that might be. I mean, for me, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I like, I love the fact that, you know, they root for one another, they work with one another. And for me, like. And I'm from the outside looking in.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you want to, like, recreate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is maybe that. I want our community. I want our community to be that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think there is a distinct difference, though, with, like, the black American community and the Jewish community. And I'm not talking about just jumping ability. I think that, like, the Jewish community is bound, I would imagine, by this book that was written, like, 3,000 years ago. Right. A religion, these customs, et cetera. And unfortunately, because of horrible circumstances that my family had nothing to do with, black Americans are bound. Now, of course, in modern times, there's amazing culture, like, you guys dominate American culture. But historically speaking, by the oppression, that's what unifies the black experience. Unfortunately, now, much different art, music, food, like all these other things. Yes. But initially speaking, you don't have 3,000 years of, hey, this is our culture. Whereas the Jamaican community in America does. Right. Like the African community in America does. Like, the Somali community can tap into 3,000 years of culture. So it's easy for them to look out for one another, take care of one another. And I wonder if the Somali community in America operates similarly to the Jewish community in America or the Russian community of America or the Italian community of America. And I wonder if it's, like, a more difficult task for black Americans in general because you're not a monolith that has, like, one book that's driving your culture. You've had completely different experiences and unfortunately, because of history, have been torn from your, like, ethnic and country identity.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you don't know what tribe you're from in Nigeria.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Andrew Schultz]

And if you did, maybe that would inform so many things about, like, I don't know, a tribe I'm from, really, in Scotland. I mean, I know I'm part of, like, the Cameron clan. That's what it was. But, like, it maybe be really cool if I knew more about that, and then maybe it would help, like, congeal the community. So I think it is a cool thing to look towards and do, but you also gotta give yourselves a little bit of slack. You're building a new identity, right? And you're comparing yourself to groups that have existed for thousands of years. You're supposed to, in 400 years, become the same as Italian people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we gotta start somewhere, though, Ed.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no. It's great, but also, like, take a moment and be like, holy, look what we're doing. And, like, what? This is pretty cool. I think there's just, like, a moment to pat yourself on the back because you're comparing yourselves to thousands of years of history. Okay, that's my take. Maybe I'm off, but that's my take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's your thoughts on Kanye? He got the shirts out. Andrew, come on, bro. Why is he doing this?

[Andrew Schultz]

It doesn't have to. I think his, like, his knee jerk energy is just. How can I antagonize? My guess is if you told Kanye. If you said to Kanye, if you were like, you won't love Juice, he'd be like, I won't what? If you're like, I bet you won't love Jews. Matter of fact, I'm telling you right now, you're not allowed to love Juice. The next day, he'd have a shirt. I love Juice. Do you know what I mean? And I think, like, they're.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He loves going against the grain.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think he likes. This is my assumption. I don't know the guy at all, but my assumption is he doesn't like being told what to do at all. And anytime he feels like a cultural impulse telling him, like, it happened with the MAGA hat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right, Right. Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's like, I'm gonna let you know you're not gonna tell me what I can or can't do. And I assume that's what drives him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

And so the second you tell him he's being racist, he's like, all right, well, I'm doubling down on that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, his wife is really talented, though. She's in a new movie. Did you see the new movie?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did not.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's called the Elevator, starring Shannon Sharpe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Manny. I wasn't thinking it was the real movie, man. You got joke, but okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had a couple of comedians, I guess they're not comedians.

[Andrew Schultz]

These are good questions, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't want to sound surprised. Like, obviously, you're phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we do cj, my producer. We do a great Job.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cj, Great job too. You guys do a really good job of building this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate it. Thank you.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, it sounds silly to say cause you guys are so successful, but I do think it's important to give people compliments on their own.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, you caught a lot of criticism.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, I said yes. But I don't know what you're talking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

About because you already know. Yeah, I got criticized with that.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's always. It's always once you get over 4 million followers on Instagram, it's like you're clout.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You broke the Internet when you had James. I think you say fool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, the. And gigs, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And about the black girl effect.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So tell me, tell me how did that conversation come about? And then tell me what you were thinking when you said what you said.

[Andrew Schultz]

So the. What was the black girlfriend effect is essentially like when a white guy dates a black girl, he starts to glow up, like, starts to like look better. He gets like a beard and, you know, shape up and he's just like, fine. And I've heard of the black girlfriend, obviously. So what was he saying it. Referencing it. It was like Travis Kelce or something like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think, yeah, because. Yeah, he was saying they glow up, they start to look different, they get beards and things like that. And I think you said, yeah, but they go bald because.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, that's what I was like. So. So for me, I'm like, this is a comedy podcast. I'm like making a joke. First of all, I hate explaining jokes. I can't believe I'm even doing this. It's like so stupid. But. So I'm like, yeah, what is the opposite take?

[Disney Plus Representative]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

A lot of times in comedy, the opposite take is the funny thing. So you go the other side and you try to defend the indefensible or whatever it is. This is what I've done my entire career. So the opposite take is. No, actually the reason why they're shaping up their hair because they're going bald because they're stressed out. They're going to beard, so there's more padding in case they get slapped. It's just the opposite take of the black girlfriend effect being you look so much better. It's really not that sophisticated. But they went on another podcast and said they didn't think that girls in Atlanta were pretty. So black women in Atlanta were very offended by these two English dudes. Black dudes that were basically calling girls in Atlanta ugly. This is like the hub of black culture in America, and you're just gonna call the black women ugly. So they were ripping them, and then they started ripping them for laughing at my joke. Oh, so it wasn't really about what I said. It was, look how corny these guys are. And they are corny. Look how corny these guys are. Here's another example of their corn. Right, Right. And then Ryan Clark took a break from posting pictures of his outfits on Instagram to do a whole saloon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you on rc, man? Bro, did you have a conversation?

[Andrew Schultz]

I love his Instagram. The outfit posts are amazing, right? Like, the group chat is always full of the out. Like, we can't wait for the new Ryan Clark outfit drop. The second the new outfit where he's walking in the streets and the smoke is in the background and like, an inspirational quote. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's like, ugh, you need to have a conversation. Ryan's a good dude, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I know. Everybody tells me he's a good dude, but he did that, and he, like, it just felt like it was all clout, and he tried to make it this big thing, and he's like, by the end of it, he's like, he's one of these guys that, like, wants to say the N word but doesn't. And I was like, what the is going on? Like, what are we even talking about? Right? The story's about those guys who insulted the black women, right? And laughing at that joke. And then he kind of reframed it and then made it about me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But then they go on and says, well, I probably should have kicked the cameras over and punched him in his face, because I should have done a lot of.

[Andrew Schultz]

Everybody should have done a lot of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that was the opportunity. I mean, I didn't say he had to do all that, but he could have said, bro, I don't think that's funny.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he thought it was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. Until he got blowback, and then he.

[Andrew Schultz]

Thought it was going to affect the bottom line. And then you just do whatever. But that's the problem, is a lot of people aren't willing to take the criticism. Like it or not, I don't sway from criticism. I don't say, you can't criticize me, but I'm not bending. Like, they're gonna bend. Like, then you're just a plastic bag in the wind. Then whatever the people say becomes your identity, and then people can't trust you. In my opinion, I think deep down, people do respect when you have your. Your own constitution, your own Rules. I say I make fun of everybody, and I'm always gonna do that. It doesn't matter what the group is. I'm gonna do it, and then I'll get backlash, and you can have that backlash. But it's not gonna change me from being me. And eventually people start to learn. Maybe that was the first time they saw me. And they're like, that was up. Why did he say that? And eventually, I think that they start to go, oh, that's just what he does. He's actually cool with everybody about it. And it's not a personal thing. He doesn't really hate anybody. He actually loves everybody. And that's. That's just the way that he shows it. He shows it through jokes and humor and these observations. Why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do you get into it with everybody online?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't do. I don't ever get in with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got into it with cubes.

[Andrew Schultz]

Ice Cube Jr. Oh, that was just fun. Sometimes it's shooting fish in a barrel. Yeah. What do I call him? Ice Cream. He's big. I think. I think Cream.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like him, though.

[Andrew Schultz]

But he was just being foolish. Like, he was trying to have a moment. Everybody was trying to have a moment. Like, there was just this big. Anytime I see people trying to have a moment, it's like, okay, well, if you want to have a moment, then I'll also maybe have a moment. If you put something out there and you're trying to pile on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you be reading your comments, huh?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, of course. Everybody reads their comments.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used to respond to. I used to respond to.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't respond, though, to the comments unless you did. Well, if you're big enough, I will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I just can't respond to everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Correct. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, but, like, there's certain people where. Yeah, you should. Like, I'd never say anything about Ryan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I actually. This is the thing that's annoying about Ryan is, like, I actually think that he's, like. He's good. I think he's, like, good at what he does. But I just thought that that was, like, really corny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it felt like it was just. I'm gonna sandbag this dude for clout. Here's an opportunity for me to look virtuous, and I'm gonna not even reach out to him. You can reach out to me. You've asked me to be on your show. Y'all have asked me to come on the show, so you have the ability to ask me the context of things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's the Thing, it's like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you came on. You came on Clo Shay Shaper, of course.

[Andrew Schultz]

Come on. No competition here, bro. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I appreciate that, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

I appreciate his outfits more, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I'm comfortable.

[Andrew Schultz]

That one's more baggy than usual. I feel like you on the Ozempic, bro. I feel like from the start of this interview, you lost weight, the bracelet's falling off. Something's happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ozempic.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's up with Ozempic, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. So you say you like to give the count. So what's the white girl effect? White girls that date black men, what's the effect?

[Andrew Schultz]

White girls that date black guys? Like, what happens to the black guys?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, man, they don't gotta dress as cool. You know what I mean? They could. I don't know what else. I don't know. White girls that date black guys, what happens to the black guy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause the black girl effect, the guys were saying they glow up, they look different, they move different, they got. They vibe different. They got their swag now. You said. Okay. Yeah, but, you know, they start to. They go bald because they sprint.

[Andrew Schultz]

So when white girls date black guys, like, what happens with the black dude?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

God, I don't know. We gotta ask him. I mean, obviously you've heard the stereotype.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't got no black guy friend that date white women.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is that shocking to you that my black friends are real? You know what I mean? Is that shocking that my black friends keep talking?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Cause I mean, you keep saying you got black friends, but I ain't heard no name.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, first of all, Dr. Umar Johnson was my best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, man, There you go.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dr. Umar was the best man at my wedding. Okay? And then when you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dr. Umar came for you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Listen, never. That's my boy. I love Dr. Umar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whatever.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I'm telling you, Dr. Umar is the goat. I'm telling you, he is the goat. The greatest of all time. But no, Charlamagne keeps it true. Charlamagne.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, charlamagne. Y'all got a pod together.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what I'm saying. You know? And you know, so it's. What about you, man? You date exclusively white women or what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I look, I go where I'm celebrated, not tolerated. And I like who? Like me?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, you dress like a white woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I dressed me there once upon a time. Did you know you stride to stay fly. But I'm like, nah, you look great.

[Andrew Schultz]

You look great. Let me. So. So you'll date whoever. It's no like. But now do you feel the pressure, though, of, like. I think. I think at least I see it now that there's like a pressure for black women. Black men specifically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, not just black men.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, off black men, athletes, celebs, entertainer, influencers. Like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Regular guy.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because, I mean, they say, well, you wait till you get some money and then you go cross. So.

[Andrew Schultz]

And why do you think that that happens?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why does it happen? Look, have I dated outside my race? Yes, but I dated that. People that. That adored me, that appreciated me. Not to say at the time, they didn't. I've dated my kids, but I dated women that celebrate me and appreciate men. That's where I'm going to be. I don't look at it because I'm not dating for society. I'm dating for Shannon.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I think that's normal. I also think that, like, if you live in China, you're probably going to date a Chinese person. Right. And there's. What is the black population of America is like 10%, 12%.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Probably 12%.

[Andrew Schultz]

So half of that is women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

So 6% of America is black women. And then the white population in America is, I don't know, like 50% or 60%. I don't know what it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, there's 30. 40. 12. Like 30. Yeah, probably 40 something percent.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's just round it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's go 50.

[Andrew Schultz]

So 25% is white women. Right. So you have four times the amount of white women than black women. So maybe the numbers. Maybe it's not just like a black guy gets on and then he dates a white girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe there's just more white women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, maybe the judges.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, well, there is. There is. So, like. Yeah. Cause I can imagine if I was a black woman and I saw that, I would feel that way. I'd be like, whoa, what the going on? Like, why? I feel like it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't know. We, as black men, if we feel that same way when we see a black woman dating a white guy, I don't think it. I don't think it elicits the same response.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think you guys are a little intimidated when we date black women because I don't think you could fill our shoes. I feel like you're a little worried. I feel like you can't get to the back of it after all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I bet we good.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I do think. I do see that a lot. I'd be like, oh, she's off the market. Like whenever I was dating a black girl, I would see black guys be like, oh man, can't do that.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You never dated a black girl?

[Andrew Schultz]

I haven't?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, sure. I guess I haven't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you got down with a brown.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What do you mean? Of course. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why is this surprising? Well, I'm not pounding you on that like it's some accomplishment. There's hot girls, you know, and then you try to put your pee pee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In them, you know, but okay, how about that?

[Andrew Schultz]

Is that shocking to you that. That a white guy. Like, this is so interesting. The world. Is that, like, shocking to you that there's, you know, that white people will date out of their race? Do you think only white people only date white?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you thought I was Jewish too. So you assume probably I'm dating like a Jewish person. Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your wife Jewish?

[Andrew Schultz]

My wife is. She was raised Christian, but. But technically her grandma is Jewish. But like, you kind of couldn't be back then, so she had to like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. But according to the Jewish religion, if the mom's blood is Jewish, they consider you Jewish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But she's raged Christian, like, you know, she goes to church sometimes. I go to church too. Do you go to church?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Church? I haven't been in a while.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because the church is the building. My church is here.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what lazy. Get in the building, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but the worst. Hey, get in the building. The worst people are in church. Praise Lord and doing the worst stuff.

[Andrew Schultz]

But Christ is king, though, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right. I didn't feel. I didn't feel very confused.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Honestly, I really don't do a whole lot of talking about my religion. Cause, you know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, what is your. Are you Muslim?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

What are you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was raised Baptist.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, tell me about that. What's that about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you mean?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, what's distinguishable about the Baptist church compared to, like Presbyterian or something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've only been to the Baptist church. I went to the Catholic church one time. I kind of like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. That's drive by 30 minutes.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean? The Baptist church is all dead?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You go out of black church that had Baptist. Ain't like that. You're there at nine, you're out at five.

[Andrew Schultz]

No way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like a job.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just the whole day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now, is it. Was there singing in your church or is that just a stereotypical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, there's singing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Lots of singing and good stuff or what? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I mean, we had a lady named Ms. Margie Bird, rest her soul.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That lady know she could sing?

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, man.

[Andrew Schultz]

But Christian music is like, unbelievable. I get emotional. We would go to this church up in. It was in a school. It's in a school up in Harlem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And where my. My. My wife's brother would go, and they had these like, really talented musicians that would sing. Like, one guy was like, on Broadway. He was part of the church. But it's like in like a school auditorium. And I'm not A guy who really grew up with religion, but, like, I'm in there and I'm balling every single time. What is that? Is there something about, like, the people giving themselves to the. There's something beautiful about people giving themselves to a higher power. That like submission to the unknown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, when that word hit, that hit.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I thought that's what you were doing. I think when you were giving your speech, you were preaching to me. And not like you were preaching the gospel, but you were talking about something that was so. Like the way you were speaking about your grandmas. There was something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm very passionate.

[Andrew Schultz]

Divine about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was very passionate about the impact that she had on me. And that was my one time shows. That was my time to give Mary Porter a face because they had heard about her. But now as the guy that did my bust, you could see it. He brought that clay to life. It was my time to bring Mayor Porter to life with my voice and to shape and to show the world just who this woman was.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I was reading that you said that, like, she wasn't very, like, vocal with her love, but she demonstrated it. And I've heard that from people. Like, I wonder if this is also like a time thing. Like now I tell my daughter all the time, like, she can't even understand the words I'm, I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She.

[Andrew Schultz]

That'll be the first thing that she understands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And. But I've heard this from people before. Like, you can communicate love without saying it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Sometimes even saying it and not behaving it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is worse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're almost tricking somebody. You're like, you're telling them you love them, but then you're not around, you're not doing whatever. But you could feel. You could feel the love from her, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, absolutely. Why? Well, I think the thing is she took my mom, she raised her nine kids and took my mom's three. And there's no question in my mind that she loved my mom's three more than she loved her own.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So for us, why is that? You know, they say that grandparents love the grands more than they love their own kids. Because I think the thing is, is that, you know, you have a better understand because as a parent, this is your first experience.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And now, you know what? It's. Now you know how to do it. So you get a second crack around to try to raise. To raise grandkids. And man, it was. I know I'm not here. I'm not. We don't accomplish my Brother and I don't accomplish nearly what we accomplished. And I used to have. Be it. You know, I used to have the idea, Andrew, is that I would look at, like, man, I did. Everybody could still be able to. But then it really dawned on me one day sitting alone. Everybody doesn't have a Mary Porter, so that's maybe why. Maybe they had the same desire.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why do you think you're so comfortable giving credit to other people?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I realized how you don't realize how much one can accomplish if he or she doesn't mind who gets the credit. I'm okay. I'm okay mentioning cj. I'm okay mentioned Ashley, who runs Nightcap. I ain't got no My brother, my coaches. I ain't got no problem. I understand that. Yes, I'm the face of it. But I do realize that there are people behind the scenes that make this machine go. And I'm cool with that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it means. And again, I don't want to speak for cj, but, like, I think it probably means so much to even hear yourself be mentioned, especially when you're, like, behind the camera. And I think it makes those people, you know, work and grind that much harder. Cause usually they're not mentioned. A lot of people, I think, especially in Hollywood, are so empty. There's just this bottomless pit they're trying to fill constantly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm good.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's what I saw from the speech. You are full. And I don't know if. And the reason I brought up the grandma love thing is that, like, I think that happens when you're young. I think that you. I don't want to say decide, but you're raised in a way that, like, you worthy of love, and you're worthy of greatness. And I think that's the people that you're around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And there are people that aren't raised like that, and they're constantly trying to fill it. And we've all interacted with those people, and they sometimes can be entertaining, but they also suck. And they're, like, exhausting after a while. And. Yeah, it's just cool to know that that happens. Yeah. Just through straight investment. She just invested with you, right? She's like, she was there for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. When people say they gave you their last. I remember being in college, and she would send five bucks and, you know, note was, hey, this is all granny got.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I appreciated that. I just knew. Although I was born in Glenville, lived in Glenville. I was born in Chicago, lived in Glenville My mind was a million miles away. That's where I was, but that wasn't what my mind was.

[Andrew Schultz]

And were you ever able to communicate how important she was to you? To her?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think even yet. Yeah. Yeah. Even though I didn't say it, when I would go home and people would say, mary, you did a great job with those boys. They're so respectful, they're so well mannered. It's yes, sir. It's no, sir. It's yes, ma'am. It's no, ma'am. She didn't really care about the football stuff.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Cause that's your dream.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. She didn't really care about that. She didn't. She could. I mean, she. It got her a life that she probably wouldn't enjoy the last, you know, 30 plus years of her life, but that was being good people. That's what she wanted her grand. That's what she wanted her kids and grandkids to be. Let me ask you this.

[Andrew Schultz]

My pops has dementia, right? So he's losing his memory. He really has no short term memory anymore. He still holds on to some, like, old memories. And it's like one of those things. Every time I see him, I'm like, have I communicated in my life how incredibly important he was? You know? And yeah, you just hope you do. Like, but again, maybe you do it without the words. Like your mom, your grandma communicated her love to you without you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She never said it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Without saying it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She never said it.

[Andrew Schultz]

So maybe we've also communicated their importance to us without saying. I guess we can hope that even though I have said it and I tell them every single time, but you just, like, you just hope before they leave that they know that they're everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in an. They fed you, they clothed you, they took care of you. That was love. So I don't need to tell you, you got food on the table, you got clothes on your back. That's love.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And so that's the way. And you know, and you have to break that because a lot of times you raise your kids like you were raised.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause that's what, you know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So for me, you know, you had to, like, I had to, you know, tell myself, okay, I love my kids. I have to tell them. I didn't get tell, but I knew she did. I knew my grandfather loved me. Ye of how they treated me and what they did for me. You take somebody else's kid and you raise them as your own. That's love.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know that. Cause you got kids now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what that is? To raise a child?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a different ball game, man. I actually think that we lose sight of that a little bit. I think that, I think in. Yeah, I don't think that we give enough credit to the women who stay home to raise children full time. I think that in an effort to be progressive, right, like my mom worked, you know, it was her business. But in an effort to be progressive, you know, we put so much on women. We're like, you should work, but you should also take care of the kids and you should also take care of the house and all this stuff. And I think we've lost sight of how important just doing that thing is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. But we grew up in an era, though, the women did that. They worked and took care of the house.

[Andrew Schultz]

But in, in that era there was a. I would imagine, imagine there was a great respect and honor of those women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

They were the center of the house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like, I mean, you could see contrived stereotypes, but like the grandma was the focal figure of the home. It'll matter if she's the Italian grandma, the black grandma, whatever it is, the family rotates around her. What she says goes. She keeps the whole family together. And there's this great honor and respect. And I worry in like my wife's time, you know, that like my wife has this like guilt for staying home with the baby. She got her mba, she was working for Apple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? But that's what she wanted to do. And she almost feels like she has to explain to people when they ask what she's up to. And I hope we maybe get back to a time where, hey, women, you want to work, that's great, right? But if you want to raise your family, that's incredible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a full time job in itself. That's work.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's incredible. Yeah, I think that'd be really cool in our lifetime if we could get back to that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. You mentioned that you was early in your career, you was telling a joke and a guy punched you. Was that the only incident with somebody?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I used to get in fights all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that how that's why you started boxing, to learn how to fight so you can defend yourself?

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, I think it's important for a man to be able to like, defend themselves. I think it's good for your self esteem and your character. Now, I'm no tough guy, like, I'm not trying to fight people ever. Like, but I do think for your confidence to. I think every guy should kind of learn some form of self defense. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't hit him. I mean, you got a mic stand. You ain't hit it with the mic stand. You ain't throw the mic.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's also, you have to understand, like, this show is at a restaurant. I'm performing, like, on the floor in front of, like, the bus station at the restaurant. So, like, I thought he's getting up to go to the bathroom or something. I got no clue exactly what was going on. Yeah, see, it's not like he walks in the stage. I mean, my spidey sense was tingling. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Abby saw 118th and Malcolm X. Oh.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know what I mean? Like, they were tingling. The second I got above 96th street, they were tingling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so did that. But that didn't deter you from telling because clearly he was a. I've had.

[Andrew Schultz]

People throw bottles of beer at me. I've had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not recently. That's early in your career.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, early in my career. Because at that time, you have the ideas, but you don't have the skills to make them funny every single time. Time. It's still got to be silly enough, right? You know what I mean? Like, for example, that joke that I made about the. With the shits and gigs about the black one effect. It wasn't silly enough where even, like, the most person who is most easily offended still found it funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

But there's a way where it can be sillier. There's a way where there's, like, an artistry in it. And like, early in my career, I hadn't developed the artistry. And like, now, like, when I'm on stage, I think it's different than podcast, where you're just shooting the. Right. But on the stage, I think I'm pretty good at, like, getting. Getting away with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where are you on joke stealing? Because I've heard people say, nah, that's taboo. Don't steal. No jokes. And then some. Some. I've heard comedians lately say, hey, write better jokes. My pushback is if somebody writes a song, sings a song, and then you come behind and sing and change a few words. Write a better song. No, you stole that person's song.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, you can't. You can't steal. You can't steal. It's like, it's also. It's also in comedy, you have to understand, like, for. So comedy's really popular now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shout out Joe Rogan. You know what I mean? Like, it's just amazing. His influence and like, really just made it this like cultural sensation. Right, right. But the, the reality is that, like, before that we weren't really cared about or respected. You know, I love comedy always. Like, I grew up on comedy, but like, it's not like Hollywood took it serious. There's not a lot of money in it, to be honest with you. Back now there's money, but like, back then, Hollywood couldn't make real things out. They tried to make a ser. But the stand up, they're not really caring about. So the only thing we had were these jokes and the idea that, like, it could take you a year to develop a joke and then somebody else goes and does it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's even if they change the premise of it. Like, I might tell a joke with a bottle and you tell a joke with a can. If the seal, steal the.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, here's the thing. If they're stealing it, this is another thing comics got to understand too, is like, like, it's possible more than one person has the same idea.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, like, if somebody is stealing, like, they're literally going, hey, I saw that. No, I'm gonna use it. That's wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But like, there's jokes that I do or have done that I've seen other people kind of do. Similar.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Get it. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And like my knee jerk reaction isn't that guy's a thief. My knee jerk reaction is like, oh, I thought it was a more unique idea than it is, but maybe somebody else also had a unique idea. Like, I don't want to immediately put thief on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now with the Internet and this is the. That's like humbling, I think, to comics is like there's billions of people tweeting. The funniest thing they could tweet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Every angle about the President getting shot in the air.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is going to be said. You're not going to say anything like that. Only you said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, that's even. Why not. This isn't the reason why, but like my last special, not to like shamelessly plug, but like just a really personal story.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Plug it.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, but it's. It's. But it's on Netflix March 4th. No, but like, it's a personal story because this is the thing I went through. So I hope other people talk about, you know, maybe trouble getting pregnant and starting a family, but I hope other people do. So it takes away the stigma. But also, like, this, this is my experience that's your story. So there's. You know what I mean? Like, in a time where everybody can have their hot take about politics or whatever it is, I felt like maybe this is going to be a more unique and I can separate myself a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Little bit from it. Yeah, I get that. Because sometimes I don't watch sports with the sound.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I don't want them to influence what I'm gonna say. For example, so when I'm watching a football game, there's no sound.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is so interesting. When I'm creating a set. Like when I'm creating whatever, I don't watch any standup. When I'm creating my hour, I don't watch it. Cause I don't want it to influence me at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

So now you know when you go up that night and you say, if Stephen A. Said something similar, you and your heart at least know you both just. Good for you. And what a great idea. Because it sucks if that is your reaction and then you see someone else having. You're like. But I organically thought of that. Like, I've never saw that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And sometimes, well, such and such said that. I was like, I don't know what he said. Cause I didn't listen to the sound. So I don't know what he or she said. This is my. What? I'm watching the game. This is what I deduce from it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you put music on with it? Do you put a podcast on with it? No. So you just watch in silence?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just watching in silence.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like a series serial killer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, it's gotten so bad. I watch all stuff like that now I watch regular tv. It drives. It drives my.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you got subtitles on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just. I'm just. I'm just looking.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shannon, this is a problem, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe.

[Andrew Schultz]

Shannon, there's storylines and there's dialogue that are very important.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I believe it.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're watching Severance with no sound?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, a lot of stuff I watch, I rewatch. I already know what it is saying. Yeah, I'm just laughing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. What about porn?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't get into porn.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't do porn? Mm. Mm. Really? Mm. Mm. You didn't watch your boy Ocho's porn?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What porn? He had.

[Andrew Schultz]

He said he was doing an amateur porn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, Ocho be trolling.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who do you think's got a bigger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, why'd you tell him? I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

You or Ocho Cinco. Who do you think's Got bigger than you or Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have no idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let me ask you, would he think that he is a bigger one or you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, he had the surgery, so.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, but. Okay, so post surgery, you think he's bigger?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I don't know. He said he went from 3 to 11, so I'm gonna take his word for it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do they put it at the end or did they put it in the middle?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have no idea. That was, you know, I mean, I have no idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you think they just put a whole head on top of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got a place in Grand Junction where there people go and they have reassignment and stuff like that, but I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you can take someone put it on yours like a Mr. Potato.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, they don't work like that, bro. It don't work like that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you sure?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm pretty sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I don't think you can just take somebody's finger and stick it on yours. It's got to be yours, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know. I don't know how that works. I've never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you know, if you have a loser finger, you lose an arm. I don't think you can put somebody else's arm on your arm. It'd have to be yours, right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you can put someone's eyeballs into your face. I saw that Will Smith movie where he did that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

IRobot.

[Andrew Schultz]

No. £16 or something like that. Oh, and then he gave the liver. You can give all sorts of body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give people your heart. You can't give them your. Of course you could give them your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you wouldn't.

[Andrew Schultz]

You wouldn't on your deathbed allow bequeath.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'mma use it when I go to heaven.

[Andrew Schultz]

What you gonna do up there in heaven with that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you caught. You did catch some flack.

[Andrew Schultz]

Hey, we getting off this con.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did catch some flack.

[Andrew Schultz]

You catch what? Did I catch some flack for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Transgender.

[Andrew Schultz]

What'd I say about the transgender?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you. I mean, you was like. I guess you said transgender women is like blacks in sports because they kind of, like, took it over.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, I said, no, no, no. See, this is why you can't tell the joke. No, insert it. You can insert it. What did I say? I got it. Here, hold on. Let me get at the exact one that joke was good as. But I don't think it's comparing trans.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women to taking over women's sports to black taking over professional sports. Black runs faster. Jump higher than whites.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, you used to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Used to still do.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, no, no, no. White's got it back, dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, y'all got Mac McClung, three time dunk champ.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm saying we're the three time dunk champs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cooper DeJohn got a pick in the Super Bowl.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, we got the best defensive. I mean, it's really. Really. Something's good in the water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think something. I mean, the best player in the NBA. Nikola Jokic, Hooka Doncic.

[Andrew Schultz]

We got Hooka Doncic. We got. I mean, it's kind of crazy right now. Whites are having a comeback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What's going on? What do you think it is?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got one DB, y'all got two DBs. Wait, who's the other corners? There's a DB from the Broncos. I think they went to the same school.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's a white guy. Usually that comes up on our radar. Yeah, yeah, okay. But that's a big deal. The white DB's a big deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a very big deal.

[Andrew Schultz]

Why do you think that is? Why do you think there's so few white DBs?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I mean, every once in a while. Scott Case was in the league. When I was in the league, I played against Jason Seahorn.

[Andrew Schultz]

Jason Seahorn. But he was getting cooked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was good. He was good until he hurt his knee.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, that was it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He was really good. And he didn't get.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because his knee didn't know he was. And then once his knee found out he was white, it's like, what are we doing playing this position? Let's start coaching ourselves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think the guys go out for those positions.

[Andrew Schultz]

Wait, why? Why? Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, normally.

[Andrew Schultz]

Be careful. Now we might be talking about stereotypes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wouldn't want you to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think they go out for that position. They normally play wide receiver. They play quarterback. They'll play safety.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is a. The corner is a speed position. A lot of skill. A lot of techniques. Technique. And a lot of guys, they. They, you know, feel they're better equipped to play safety.

[Andrew Schultz]

Here's the joke. Ready?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Women are really upset that the trans women are, like, competing in women's sports with them. But I'll be honest, I can't wait for the day when trans women completely replace women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women and women's sports.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's my dream. I have a Martin Luther King dream that one day trans women completely replace women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women at women sports.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then women will know what white people went through when we let black people play sports. That's difficult, ain't it? That's why we have no sympathy for you ladies. We hear you on the news, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How can we win?

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They run faster and jump higher.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're like, oh, I wonder what that is. Like, I wonder. I wonder. That must be so difficult to have a group of people. Anyway, yeah, that's the joke.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. Who is your Mount Rushmore comedians? You do. I don't know. In New York, it's four. You only get four heads. Cause people be trying to put five, six, seven heads on one Rushmore. You got four.

[Andrew Schultz]

Patrice O'Neill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Eddie, Bernie Mac, Chris Rock.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nice little group.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who influenced you?

[Andrew Schultz]

First person I ever listened to do stand up was Eddie Murphy. It was my father. He put in a cassette tape. Now we're dating myself here. But like, not VHS audio.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And we listened to Into Delirious. Okay. I remember seeing my dad. No, I. I was born 83, so this is later, but maybe it came out. Yeah. And he was doing a bit about, like, what if Mr. T was gay? What if Mr. Ralph Cram. Yeah. And I saw my dad laughing so hard. And, like, from that moment, I can tell you the exact moment that I knew I was going to be a comedian before even knowing it. But it was like, I want to make my dad laugh. Laugh like that. And, oh, Eddie was just a genius. And then I got roped into buying those Def Comedy Jam VHS tapes. Remember when he was like, there was some 1-800-number. I called it from the house. I'm like, mom, I need your debit card or whatever. I'm getting sent a new deaf Comedy Jam vhs. And then I saw Kings of Comedy with some friends in the movie theater. We watch in a movie theater. And I saw Bernie Mac, and I was like, wow, that is truly the funniest human being I've ever seen. I'm. And at this point in my life, I didn't really know that there were bits. And he was so conversational. Like, if you remember Bernie, he was funny. And then the jokes were like the sprinkles on top, but he himself just existed, so animated as a funny human being. And, oh, my God, it was just like, I was just watching this, like, super genius on stage. And then I saw Patrice O'Neill when I was doing computer comedy as a. When I was doing comedy as, like, a comedian early on. And I was like, oh, that is. That is the craft at its highest. It does not get, in my opinion, from everybody I've seen in person, that Is the craft at its highest. Rest in peace, Patrice O'Neal. Have you seen Patrice before? Go watch Elephant in the Room if you can. It's probably on Netflix. It is. I mean, if you want to talk about, like, his ability to control attention, his ability to, like, to lure you into his thought process and get you to take down your guard. A lot of times when we're watching stand up, we're almost kind of guarded. We're like, all right, where's the joke? Where's the joke? But he so quickly gets you to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just be, like, disarms you, and you're.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just like, we're hanging, bro. Hey, we're hanging out. And you're just looking at a super genius and whose skill of communication in the world is making people laugh and the little things that he, like, sets traps for the audience, then dunks. Oh, he's just. To me, that's the highest it's ever been done. Is Patrice O'Neal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read where you felt Chappelle took a shot at you on Rogan.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I think it was about the slideshow. He called it, like, a slideshow, right? I mean, it had some pictures in it, but, yeah. But, yeah, I guess that. I think it was more like Rogan was, like, building me up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he was just being the great guy he always is, which is, like, trying to build up young talents and, like, give them praise. And, like, he's sitting across from, you know, someone who's. Recognizes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Many believe he's the goat.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is the goat. As. As they should. Like, he's brilliant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I think that he was, like, really kind of, like, serving it up for. For Dave to be like, hey, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is really good.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then he was kind of like, I don't know about that, you know? And I think, yeah, there's part of you that's like, ah, man, I wish it didn't go that way, but. So, okay. It is what it is, Joe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've not had one person come on this show and say anything bad about Joe Rogan. They give him his flowers. Like, Joe, hey, you need this? Call Joe. You want support, Call Joe. Joe's gonna highlight you. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. What is it about Joe Rogan? What makes Joe Rogan so special?

[Andrew Schultz]

He's a benevolent king. Most people that have the disposition that, like, allows them to become powerful are not good. It's very rare. You get a person that wants power and wants to help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Usually people that want power have, like, a psychosis. They have an issue. Right. And they're like crazy people. Like, every tyrant of any country, most of them are not, like, benevolent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he's a person who. I don't think he ever was. Like, I'm going to be the most influential. I'm going to be what I. Yeah. But throughout the entire time, has looked out for other people. Like, the amount of people he's just made millionaires, amount of people he's made thousandaires, like, the amount of people that he's. It's just unbelievable. So I think when you feel that and you feel that from someone in a position that does not need to do that, and when most people don't, there's a lot of gratitude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a lot of gratitude towards him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I had Cat on and. And Cat, we know, pulled the curtain back.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think people knew that comedians were at each other like this as much as they were. And I think Cat pulled a scab back. Pulled a curtain back. And did, you know, Are you on.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think it's really competitive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really? Everybody says that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. I think it's like, to me, I think it's really competitive. And, like, we just don't really share our business publicly a lot. And I think Kat kind of shared it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I think there's a lot of competition. And I think sometimes there's like a scarcity mindset where it's like, oh, because he's doing this, I'm not. Which is not the case.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a lot of nights out. People gotta go to shows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nobody's taking food off your plate. Like, but sometimes when you don't have something, you're looking for an explanation, a reason why as to why. But it's just like when I see guys arguing over, like, who could cover who on a podcast, like, you're gonna be competitive. And then the people who are super successful, when you reach a certain level of success, people are looking for reasons why you shouldn't be that way. Like, I'm sure you experience it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

When this show was like a fledgling show, you remind everybody of their dreams. Once you do 80 million views and your millions of this and millions of dollars, you got your own cognac. Now you remind people of what they have not accomplished. So now they start going like, oh, but he just does this and he just does that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he sold out the. Or he a part of the Illuminati.

[Andrew Schultz]

So. Which is like the greatest compliment you can get. I mean, like, once people start saying you're Illuminati, Yeah, you made it. That's. Listen, making it as a black dude in America is either you're gay or you're part of the Illuminati.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's how you make. If you don't have a gay rumor and you don't have Illuminati, you haven't made it yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that what you guys say in y'all community when a white guy makes it?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, we say, absolutely. Like he was on the flight logs. No, but I think what happens is there is this, like, competition, and then sometimes now that there are these platforms, it kind of gets out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it just comes from, you know, people. People wanting a little bit more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing, though, Schultz, is that 80% of the money that's in circulation was printed since 2020.

[Andrew Schultz]

So there's a lot more money out right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if they run out, they'll print more. Yeah, I'm not taking. See, you can't get mad at results for work you didn't put in.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're speaking logically, but people react off emotion, man. And I think sometimes emotionally, they're just trying to find a reason why they aren't where you are. Yeah, I'm not where he is because I didn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you're not working hard because you criticize me, say, all you do is work. You ain't got no life. I see now why you're not married.

[Andrew Schultz]

Isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? So it's like you work too hard and that's why you're not married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

If you were married, they'd be like, yeah, but you don't really care about your family because you're always working. Like, there's always going to find a way to tear you down. But again, it has nothing to do with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's just now you're at a level where it's, you know, you. You remind people of what they haven't achieved. And that's. But also, here's the thing. When we get to those levels, we can't really about it. That's the cost of success. A lot of people get to those levels and they complain about all the hate and that kind of. It's like, nah, you got to pay the piper. If want to sit across from a dude and drink cognac and make millions of dollars and wear a yoga outfit, you going to have to deal with some people on you online.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I didn't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

I know it's surprising. Yes. It's more surprising cuz you're like, I'm a good person. I help people. I go through the same thing. I'm like, I'm good to all my people. Everybody around me's eating. Like, I'm a generous person. Like, I want other people to win, but that has nothing to do with it. You've reached a level. Level where your success is going to make certain people feel away. They're going to want to chip away. That's a human instinct. It's in us and we got to take it. We can't cry about it. This is the cost of success.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But why does my success make you feel what makes you feel bad about yourself?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's human instinct. Unfortunately, it's human instinct. It's just who we are. The only people that we're not upset, we're not like, mad about their success. Also, the easier the thing that you do to be successful is, is the more resentment people have. So, like, comedy is scary for people. So, like, a lot of times, like, if people are upset at my. They're not really upset at my, like, standup success. But podcasting looks like the easiest in the world. Like, anybody can hang out with their friend and call each other gay for two hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

That's podcasting. Right? So it's like not saying, we've done that. We would never do such a thing anyways. But like, so the easier the thing is, and the more money you make in it, the more resentful it is because you're like, I could also do that. But here's the reality. There are intangibles here that are really difficult.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct?

[Andrew Schultz]

You setting up the systems, you finding a guy like cj, you building all this, you finding a new venue every single time, structuring it. Scheduling, like, these things are tricky, but us complaining about how hard it is doesn't help our cause either. This is the cost of doing business. And we gotta be grateful because every person you admire probably got haters. They called Tom Brady a system. Quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Quarterback. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's how you know. Did you call him that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. But that's how he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The system.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, exactly. But that's how you know, it's like there's always going to be something to be said. And that is just the cost of success. There's very few people who are like, unanimously beloved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

And successful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I don't even know any. Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Michael Jordan.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't think that we were hating on Mike? I'm a Knicks fan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, I was hating Mike. Like you had every reason to hate him. But see, you was hating because. And that's what I tell people. When I played for the Broncos or the Ravens, I understood the Steelers were gonna like, dislike me. I understood Kansas City at certain teams.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, yes, there was a justification. Yes. And this. I get it. It feels. You feel like there's like an unfairness. This isn't based in reality. If you wanted to criticize you for a reason that you might agree with, then you'd be like, okay, I can do better at that. But it feels like it's just hate to hate. And unfortunately, unfortunately, that's part of the cost of success, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm learning, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, you're gonna get used to it. You got a lot of success.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay Profile and I'll see you there.

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