Club Shay Shay - Angela Simmons Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Angela Simmons Part 2

Release Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Uncle Luke/Luther Campbell as guest host)
Guest: Angela Simmons

Episode Overview

This episode, the second half of Angela Simmons’ conversation with Club Shay Shay, dives deep into Angela’s thoughts on relationships, modern romance, financial dynamics between couples, the realities of co-parenting, her personal healing from abusive relationships, handling fame and social media scrutiny, her entrepreneurial journey, and her ventures in both fashion and music. The tone is candid, thoughtful, and often humorous, with both Angela and Uncle Luke sharing real-life anecdotes, opinions, and advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Financial Roles and Relationship Dynamics

• Stipends and Provider Roles

  • Angela shares her views on men providing for women, saying she appreciates when a man takes care of his woman’s needs but emphasizes reciprocity and teamwork.
    • “I think a provider is a provider. I believe in the era of men being providers.” (03:07)
    • She’s not against giving to her man, enjoying gifting and thoughtful gestures.
      • “I love doing for my man...remembering stuff he likes.” (05:30)

• Net Worth Standards and Expectations

  • Discussion on Young Miami’s “minimum $100 million to date” comment, and how narrowing preferences—height, education, finances—shrinks the dating pool.
    • Uncle Luke: “When you get all the way down to 100 million...that man that has all those qualities...has to want what you want.” (07:04-07:21)
  • Angela: “It’s a fact. You gotta want each other.” (07:21)

• Modern Love vs. Old School Romance

  • Angela contrasts her parents’ era with today’s, noting people seem to give up quicker and the influx of social media has created “too many options.” (08:49-09:10)
  • Angela: “People give up quicker...The game has changed.” (08:49-08:29)

• Meeting Parents and Children

  • Angela approaches introducing partners to her dad or son when things are serious, emphasizing emotional safety and gradual introductions.
    • “When I really feel like...I'm falling in love, let me go ahead and tell my dad.” (18:55)
    • On introducing her son: “It’s more about where I’m at with the person.” (27:28)

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2. Social Media, Privacy, and Modern Dating

• DMs, Vetting, and Investigation

  • Angela admits to “investigating” potential suitors’ social media thoroughly, even involving friends and her team.
    • “I have my own investigating...figure out who’s who.” (10:24-10:40)
  • Uncle Luke jokes women are better investigators than the CIA (10:40-10:54).

• Social Media Negativity & Coping

  • Angela describes being targeted especially by women online, and having to develop a strong “I don’t care” attitude.
    • “I just started to gain the confidence to say, you know what? I don’t care. And I just stand by it.” (41:15)
    • Block & delete is her main coping tool: “You are a waste of my time.” (42:42)
  • Uncle Luke: “Everybody have Twitter muscles and big, strong thumbs.” (41:57)

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3. Dating Preferences, Red Flags, and Personal Standards

• Egalitarianism vs. Provider Tradition

  • Angela says she’s not against dating someone who makes less, but insecurity and jealousy are deal-breakers.
    • “A lot of the times that breeds insecurity...I don’t have time for this.” (15:49)
  • She reiterates the importance of ambition and growth mindset in a partner.

• Children & Co-Parenting

  • She’s open to dating men with kids but “too old for drama” and requires a healthy co-parenting setup without ex-partner confusion.
    • “You can’t date me and still have your baby mom thinking just an impression that we about to be together.” (25:42)

• Prenups & Dating for Marriage

  • Angela is clear about discussing prenups early and only dating with the intention of marriage.
    • “If y'all don't agree [on prenup], that's important.” (17:33)
    • “Date to marry.” (17:59)

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4. Female Solidarity, Vulnerability, and Coping with Abuse

• Abusive Relationships & Healing
  • Angela opens up about her experience with abuse, stressing that leaving is rarely as simple as it sounds due to complexity and attachment.
    • “It starts maybe slow, and then it kind of progressively gets...more and more. It's a scary place to be.” (38:41)
    • Therapy was crucial for her healing and regaining perspective.
  • Advice for others: Pay attention to controlling behaviors or uncontrolled anger as early red flags. (40:29)
  • She’s learned not to blame herself and values self-forgiveness.

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5. Entrepreneurship & Career Moves

• Business Lessons

  • Angela discusses her long experience as a businesswoman:
    • “Forever evolving...be around people that know more than you.” (45:54)
    • Learned the importance of licensing vs. owning outright early in her career.
  • On Pinky Cole and Slutty Vegan: Expansion challenges and the necessity of perseverance.
    • “Never give up to keep going.” (47:42)

• Brand Partnerships & Social Media Campaigns

  • The Oreo “bathtub” viral moment: She handled backlash with ease—her brand, Angela’s Cakes, saw increased sales despite (or because of) controversy.
    • “Angela’s cakes...is actually sold out...so it did what it was supposed to do.” (67:37)

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6. Music, Fame, and Fashion

• Ventures in Music

  • Angela is signed to Ruff Ryders, recently released a single featuring Jadakiss, and is working on a music project.
    • “I am signed to Ruff Ryders actually, and the single I just put out, I did a deal with them.” (59:08)
    • Her music includes spoken word and collaborations; she emphasizes creative vision and teamwork.

• Fashion Innovation

  • Viral Yankees fiddy corset: Angela is proud of inspiring fashion moments and embraces her creative side.
    • “I don’t mind inspiring like culture or being a part of like fashion moments.” (65:51)

• Luxury Bags as Investments

  • On Birkins and Hermès: Playful exchange about receiving exclusive bags, equating them to property investments.
    • “I mean, it's like owning property. And you watch and look at all your property in your closet.” (53:37)
    • Uncle Luke: “When they go to that level...they step into the house with both feet.” (56:00)

• Acting & Role Choices

  • Angela expresses love for acting and plans to do more, reflecting her “many hats.”

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7. Memorable Quotes

• “When I’m in, baby, locked in. Not even looking left or right. I don’t even think nobody cute.” — Angela Simmons (22:32)
• “To me, it’s my world, and you’re living in it. If you’re on my page, like you’re following what I’m doing, then that means you’re here.” — Angela Simmons (43:44)
• “I have better things to be doing than to responding to negative negativity.” — Angela Simmons (42:42)
• “Never give up. Keep going. That’s the problem—people give up, they stop.” — Angela Simmons (47:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Relationship Finances & Provider Roles – 03:00–07:00
• Modern Dating, Social Media & Vetting – 09:00–11:00
• Dating Standards & Old School Romance – 08:49–09:36, 17:00–19:00
• Prenups & Marriage Intent – 17:13–18:29
• Co-Parenting and Dating With Kids – 22:54–25:52
• Abusive Relationships & Coping – 38:02–40:54
• Handling Social Media Hate – 41:15–44:21
• Business, Brand, and Expansion Lessons – 45:44–48:14
• Oreo Viral Campaign – 51:18–54:27, 67:25–67:48
• Women in Music & Fashion – 59:00–66:12

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Notable & Lighthearted Moments

• Angela on being genuinely open to great people, regardless of wealth, but not open to being “moonwalking backwards” in lifestyle. (11:36)
• Playful scenario with fictional suitor “Bruce” – Angela’s boundaries in meeting and travel. (28:14–31:23)
• The Hermès Birkin discussion—Uncle Luke teasing Angela about being gifted a Himalaya and what it means. (53:24–56:36)
• Angela’s “fashion as property investment” analogy. (53:37)
• Angela reveals her preference for musical genres, influences, and collaborating with notable artists. (59:08–64:01)
• *“I’m a blocker and a deleter.” (42:42)—Angela’s social media survival mantra.

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Closing Takeaways

Angela Simmons provides insightful, raw commentary on the complexities of dating, womanhood, fame, entrepreneurship, and healing. She advocates for self-worth, clear boundaries, healthy love, and the importance of evolving in business and life. Her humor, candor, and wisdom shine throughout, making this episode a candid masterclass in modern femininity and resilience.

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For listeners: This episode is especially rich for those curious about celebrity relationships, navigating social media, and balancing business with personal life. Angela’s journey and lessons offer inspiration while Uncle Luke keeps the energy light and engaging.

Transcript

[Angela Simmons]

I turned off news altogether.

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Angela Simmons]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

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[Angela Simmons]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

you for coming back. Part two is underway. So there's been a lot of talk. Stipends. Do you believe a man should give his girlfriend stipend?

[Angela Simmons]

I've seen that conversation going around. It depends on the level of your relationship, but I don't see nothing wrong with a man taking care of a woman. I think a woman can go out and get hers, but I think a provider is a provider. I believe in the era of men being providers.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So you like your guy? Angela, go get your hair done. I got that. Go get your nail done. I got that. Go get. Go to the spa. I got that. You like that?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, why not?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, is this a monthly thing? How often. I mean, is this, like, okay, I

[Angela Simmons]

think if I'm with you, you like my man. Monthly, for sure.

[Starbucks Advertiser]

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[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, why not? I think, like, it, like, I live the life I live without a man, Right? Okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So it's like, so he got to maintain the life that I had.

[Angela Simmons]

Why not? We doing this and we gonna build an empire together, too. So it's like, I think, why not?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But the people don't.

[Angela Simmons]

I don't need you to do it. You don't have to do it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

People don't see all these people that you walked in and that, you know, we keep cutting and they doing your hair and doing your makeup. And the manager, somebody, stop. Leave your hair alone.

[Angela Simmons]

Leave your hair alone. But it takes a village, like, to. People don't see what it takes to, like, maintain and do what you do behind the scenes. So it's like you and your man, when you come together, like, y' all supposed to do that together.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But how do you have. I'm just trying to figure out, how do you have this conversation? Cause I know, like, sometimes some things that you just do naturally, like, babe, you know what? Hey, you been working hard. Hey, go get your nails done. Go get your hair done. Go get this X, Y, and Z. We going out tonight. But I don't know. I don't. Cause I'm working so hard, sometimes I would lose track. And I'm not even really thinking about it. I'm like, damn.

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

She's been working hard, too. And I haven't done some of the things that I probably need to do. So how does. I mean, do you remind him? I mean, is that something that he should be reminded of his own?

[Angela Simmons]

I think if you're in locked in, long term relationship, marriage or whatever it is. Like, babe, here's. This is what I'm gonna give you per month. Like do. Do what you want to do with it. I think it's the truth. I think like, hey, babe, this is.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You want cash or you want credit card?

[Angela Simmons]

However you want to do it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

God dang.

[Angela Simmons]

However you wanna do it. I don't see nothing wrong with it. Like, especially when you like a woman like a boss that goes out and gets her own and does it anyway. Like that's like dope. Like your man providing and you can do it yourself too.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You let me ask you a question. You do it for your man?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I love doing for my man. Like going, getting things and surprises and things and remembering stuff he likes. And I like stuff like that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So when you go out when you were dating, did you ever treat the man? Did you like, baby, put that away, I got you.

[Angela Simmons]

If they allow me, like, I don't think a lot of the times they're not gonna let me just take the bill. It's not gonna happen. Like, I wouldn't even dare. It's like almost rude for me to take my.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But I would sometimes I just want to see. I just want to see you go. I just want to see someone go in that person. Like pretend. Yeah, yeah. The awkward moment at the table just

[Angela Simmons]

an inch and over.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Even if the car gonna get declined.

[Angela Simmons]

Just, just try.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I just want to see. I just want to see you. I just want to see you do it.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Because more times than not, I probably already taken care of it.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm already ahead of it. Yeah. Let me just see that. You trying.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

That's it.

[Angela Simmons]

I like when people try, try. Effort is important. I get effort.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

My girl, Young Miami, I had her on here and she was unbelievable. She said a man needs a minimum net worth of 100 milli to date her.

[Angela Simmons]

I don't see nothing.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

A hundred.

[Angela Simmons]

Hey, she go and she get her own stuff. And if that's what works for her, that's what works.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Angela, do you know. Do you know of 8 billion people, do you know how many men in the world have a net worth of 100 million?

[Angela Simmons]

But they out there.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, but here's the thing. You do realize when you start saying, okay, I want a man six foot tall. I want a man that's educated. I want a man that likes to travel. So, okay, we starting out like this.

[Angela Simmons]

Here, it gets smaller.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So guess what? When you get all the way down to 100 million, after all those others that you want, it's like this right here. But all the while, that man that has all those qualities that you want, guess what? He has to want. What you.

[Angela Simmons]

It's a fact. I mean, you gotta want each other.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

See me, I mean. I mean, I wish a guy, you think a guy like that, like, you know what. Woman gotta have a net worth of like 50 million. She just see me. She need to wanna travel. She need to wanna be on the balcony.

[Angela Simmons]

Are men that specific? Are you that specific?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, men are different.

[Angela Simmons]

So what's. They're more simple?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes, men are. More times than not, men are in the look. Because a man can find a nice looking woman. She could be at the bus stop, he gonna pull aside and try to holler at her.

[Tab Ramos]

Really?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Women ain't. You could be 6 foot 4, chiseled up, AB modeled Tyson Beckford.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Who?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I saw this night looking guy at the bus stop child, but he on the bus stop,

[Angela Simmons]

pulled right by him

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

and stepped on the gas to make

[Angela Simmons]

sure she ain't stopped underway, straight by sis.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We see your mom and people, your mom and your grandma, they ain't think like y' all see. Y' all done changed the game, Angela.

[Angela Simmons]

But that game has changed.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, that game ain't changed the game. Love is still the game. Love. I gotta love. Love, Love.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah. I don't know. It's getting weird out here. I'm scared. What you mean? It's just different. Times have changed.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

What's changed about it? Okay, I tell you what. From work now with you dating now to when you were dating, say 20 years ago.

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, Jesus. That was a child. That was a long time ago. So from now, I just feel like people were. It was just different. Like when you think of like love from like my parents era. Yeah, it was Marvin Gaye, like, let's stay together like now. It's like I just. People give up quicker.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes. You know why?

[Angela Simmons]

Why?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Too many options.

[Angela Simmons]

That's terrible. But all the options are not better than the last one.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I know that. Yeah, I know that. But you gotta realize your parents didn't have. They didn't. They didn't be able to stroll and see what's going on in Miami.

[Angela Simmons]

They would've had to go out and figure it out. And it would have took a while. Cause you can't just.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes. You didn't know. You didn't know what the women looked like in Miami unless you was in Miami. You didn't know what the women look like in New York or California or Vegas or Arizona. Unless you're in those places.

[Angela Simmons]

Whole other country. Social media have you connected.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

God, man. South Africa got the fangs over there

[Angela Simmons]

on a plane.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Yes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Now we touching down in Joburg.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, that's true. That is. The social media has it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Where you can meet anyone and everybody is a plane ride or a car drive away. It used to be like this was never your wildest dream that you think you could.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, that's crazy. I'm still old school of that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Is that a good or a bad thing?

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, some people have met there forever like that. They did, but it just makes. It just makes dating more difficult.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I guess it is. Could a guy slide in your DMs and you take him serious?

[Angela Simmons]

I could think about it. I would have to go to their page and go down a rabbit hole and figure out who.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So. So you go down. So you go to their page. You'.

[Angela Simmons]

It's exactly what I'm doing. I'm sending to a couple friends. You know who this is?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

Do you know anyone who knows this person?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Has he been in your DMs? Has he been in anybody's DM?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't know everything. My team, we got, you know, we do our own investigating. Figure out who's who.

[NBC News Announcer]

Who.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You know, I saw that they say women are better investigators than the CIA. See, y' all could. Hey, y'.

[Tab Ramos]

All.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

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[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

All.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Y' all been done got bin Laden. Y' all got bin Laden about 20 years ago.

[Angela Simmons]

We are we.

Yeah.

I try not to be. It just comes to me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

India Love says she doesn't like when men complain about the price of things. Want things to be cheaper. Are you the same?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't think there's a reason to discuss the price. Why would anyone complain?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Man, could y' all be wanting you come in here with ysl. YSL on the heels. Stop that what you mean?

[Angela Simmons]

But that's okay if you're worth it. Like, you know what I mean? Like when you are a woman of high value and you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I got Kate Spade. I got Kate. I want a Kate Spade budget.

[Angela Simmons]

Okay, well, Kate Spade and Coach, there are options. I think Coach has great. You know, there are things. There are options. Everyone is in certain brightness but you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But you're at a level now. I just don't see a situation, Angela, where someone. And as much as you might love that person, you've established A level I don't see you moonwalking backwards. Cause like you said, you can do for yourself. I can't have a man that do less for me than I do for myself.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, but I love love, too. So, like, it depends. Like, I need to meet a man that is highly ambitious, on his way somewhere, doing something with his life. Like, I'm very.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Like, he's on the way to the pizza parlor. Did that count?

[Angela Simmons]

I'm just. I'm open. I like. I like great people.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You know what, Angela? You do a lot of talking about I'm open to great. I'm open to great people.

[Angela Simmons]

Ah, you don't believe me? I do. I like great.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Looking at your dating pool, what'd you see? The guys out there, they might be great people, but they got great pockets.

[Angela Simmons]

Well, you know, we're ambitious. Equally ambitious. We both are hustlers. I'm sure. If that's what happened there.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

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[Angela Simmons]

I turned off news altogether.

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's the rage bait.

[Angela Simmons]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.

[NBC News Announcer]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

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[Angela Simmons]

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[Angela Simmons]

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Want the full story?

[Angela Simmons]

Take a listen, Hetty. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Angela Simmons]

She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Give us examples.

[Angela Simmons]

I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings, and she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode, spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

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[Angela Simmons]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Could you date a man that make less money than you? But you love him? Man, he love. I mean, he's everything. He's God fearing, you know, he.

[Angela Simmons]

But is he insecure? Because a lot of the times that breeds insecurity. So if I said yes and you make lust of me, now you're insecure, and now you dealing with a man that is angry, and then they're dealing with you a certain way. So it depends on who you're dealing with. I don't want that. So then they're, like, always questioning, oh, why are you with me then, bro? I don't have time for this.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But that's what y' all do. Y' all do that to us.

[Angela Simmons]

No, we gonna ask you, why are you with us?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Exactly.

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You just.

[Angela Simmons]

No, I'm saying that you must be. It's something you ignite. Obviously, if a woman's asking you, why you with me Sometimes, for me. I'll speak for myself. I'm just. I just. I like to ask a lot of questions.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Why you all.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm a Virgo, and I ask a lot of questions.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I hate, I hate.

[Angela Simmons]

I love answers.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You could be with anybody. Why?

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, I won't ask that. But I'll just be like, babe, why

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

are you with me?

[Angela Simmons]

Why do you love me? I want to know. If you didn't already tell me. I just want to know. And then tell me again. Remind me, because I'm going to remind you. I love you.

[Ryan Seacrest]

What?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Why? Why do I have to remind you?

[Angela Simmons]

Reminders are good.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

He done reminded you he with you. Ain't that remind every day he wakes up with you.

[Angela Simmons]

That's nice. But if we've been together years, and I just wanna know, like, hey, why you love me still? I don't like. And it's not, like, because you haven't

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

asked me for one of those expensive vacations in a long time.

[Angela Simmons]

No,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

with the prenup.

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You're like, okay, yours is yours. What we accumulate together, okay, we divide that up. But you see a lot of times that sometimes the one waits until the umpteenth minute and try to put pressure on. The wedding is a week away, and we still haven't agreed to anything. And the wedding gets called off, it gets postponed. So what are your thoughts?

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, I think those conversations are important in the beginning. Like, you know, you want to walk into a marriage. What do you. You know, I feel like asking your partner, like, what do you think about the prenup? How do you want to do it? And if y' all don't agree, that's kind of. It's important.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Then what are we doing?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Cause aren't you. I mean, I would assume now, Angela, you're dating with the intent. I mean, I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, correct me. But I think at this juncture, I think a lot of times you're probably dating with intent to be married.

[Angela Simmons]

Correct? 100%. I have no time for games.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Date to marry.

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Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So see if they ain't coming. Correct you, like, okay, you ain't finna wasting time.

[Angela Simmons]

We wasting time.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We ain't wasting time.

[Angela Simmons]

I would just say, forget it. No point. Like, we have to be on the same page, whatever that is. And I also believe in meeting in the middle. Like, okay, what is your middle? What's my middle? Where are we comfortable with it? We love each other this much, we Want to do it? Like, what is it? So it's just figuring out what that looks like. I'm going to figure it out. Kind of like gal.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, you'll figure it out on the move, or we gonna figure out before we go any further?

[Angela Simmons]

No, we need to figure it out.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We can figure it out, right?

[Angela Simmons]

No, we need to figure it out before we go any further. We not gonna wait till later and then I'm too far in.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But we figured it out.

[Angela Simmons]

No, no, no.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We can't figure it. I can't figure it out unless we move it.

[Angela Simmons]

Figure it out. Not ing. Let's figure it out, man.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We figured it out. We drive. We figured it out. We ain't stationary.

[Angela Simmons]

All right, well, I ain't gonna be able to drive to sign them papers. Don't change your mind. Whatever we decided on, that's what we decided on.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

How soon before someone gets to meet your dad?

[Angela Simmons]

Hmm. I like to tell my dad, like, when I really feel like, oh, no, I'm falling in love, let me go ahead and tell my dad I'm falling for this person, or I like them or love them already. Then I give it a little time. It depends. Like, if I'm already in the relationship with you, two months, three months, four months. It depends how serious it gets, right? Like. Or if you were somebody that's been around my dad kind of knows about, then I'll be like, look, dad, like, I'm feeling him. Like, I'll just, like, let him know and then, you know, when time permits have.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Your dad. Have you ever been in a relationship? Your dad, Like, I ain't really feeling him like that, baby.

[Angela Simmons]

Nah.

Like, my dad's so cool. Like, he always is.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Like, he'll let you figure it out, huh?

[Angela Simmons]

Or he'll ask me about the person and I'll give him information, or I'll ask him his opinion on stuff. But he's never, like, pushed me away from what I want. He's like, his biggest thing. And my dad will write me this many times. Are you happy? You know what I mean? That's his biggest thing, is making sure that I'm happy. So if I'm happy in it and he feels like I'm good, then there's nothing else that he wants more than that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Do you think your dad has a favorite of the ex you've dated?

[Angela Simmons]

He doesn't. He hasn't quite said, but I'm sure

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

you have an indication.

[Angela Simmons]

Everyone has their favorites, right?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Would you shoot a shot at a man? Or the man has to come to you.

[Angela Simmons]

What kind of shot?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, you trying to holler? I mean, you let it be known that you're trying to holler at him or does or are you old school? Like, hey, nah, nah, you come to me.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm not against non traditional ways of having a conversation. I think the guy's interesting and I like him. I may, like, give hints.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, what kind of hint you giving? I mean, you do it. I mean, considering. I mean, you tried to shoot shotgun. You've been bothering his hair all day.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

No.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, you've been bothering his hair all day. So what kind of. I mean, you like

[Angela Simmons]

light suggestions, like, maybe we should go do dinner or something, or maybe we should meet up or let's, you know, connect or something.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You hear that guy? So if you say, hey, maybe we

[Angela Simmons]

should just keep it light. Cause, like, if you're not feeling it, cool, I ain't pressed. Move on. But I'm not. Also not. I prefer not to. I would rather the man be the man. But I'm not against. Like, if I think that the guy's like, you know, interested, I think there

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

might be something to it.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, like, let's meet up. Cause maybe we meet up and I don't even like you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But you do know, like, sometimes, like, man, you are Angela Simmons, and sometimes guys might be intimidated by who you are.

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Really?

[Angela Simmons]

I've heard this stuff.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

So what?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Like, it's not. I mean, I don't think it's as easy as people think. I mean, everybody's like, well, I just. You. Nah. I mean, sometimes you're like, damn. I mean, what? What? Hey, what's what? You know, get out my face. You know my name. Angela. Talk about what's your name?

[Angela Simmons]

Sometimes they pull to act like they don't know who I am, and you

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

like, oh, and that's okay.

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, if you don't know me, you don't know me. I don't necessarily think everyone knows me. I don't walk around like, you must know who I am.

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

You might not.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So. But do you play? You play along with it. Like, oh, I'm Angela. How are you doing?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I'm always introducing myself, right.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But I always do that anyway. And people are like, oh, we knew I would date.

[Angela Simmons]

I'll just tell you my name just in case you don't know.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I'm not arrogant enough to believe that everybody does know who I am.

[Angela Simmons]

That's how I am. I'm gonna tell you my name.

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Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

Every time.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

See?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

See, I like that. The tr I read somewhere that I think it's like Maybe it was 50, 65% that women in relationship still have a backup man or a backup plan.

[Angela Simmons]

I don't always have a backup plan. I don't think that's always true. I have heard of that. I think in the back of some women's mind, they like, if this don't work, I might go, well, it ain't gonna work.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You already think about it. It ain't gonna work.

[Angela Simmons]

But for me, like, when I'm in, baby, locked in.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You all in. All in, locked in.

[Angela Simmons]

Not even looking left or right. I don't even think nobody cute. I don't wanna. I'm just gonna stay right here so that I'm focused on my.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You all about your man then? Huh?

[Angela Simmons]

Huh?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You all about your man?

[Angela Simmons]

At that point, 100% I'm locked in.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. I like that. If you're dating, were you on dating men with kids? You cool with that?

[Angela Simmons]

No, I don't, I don't. I'm not against it. I'm a woman with a child too. You know what I mean? Like, but I never been against it even, like, prior to having kids, if somebody had a kid, I was not like, no, I'm just big on. As long as everything's, you know, good in your area and life.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So you worried about the baby mama, how I beat you?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't want drama. Too old for drama. Keep it away, right? If you got a baby mama that thinks she's your girlfriend still or whatever. Mm, mm. Let's not.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But, but no, baby, it's not like that. I. I've tried to tell her, like, we've moved on, we've gotta raise this child together. And somehow she, you know, why is

[Angela Simmons]

she not getting the memo, though?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But I mean, you know, some. It's not just baby mama, so. Excuse me. It's just not the women. Co parent. Cause I don't wanna be, you know. Cause, yeah, you say, but sometimes, you know, it's hard when you love somebody. When you love somebody, you know, it's hard to let go.

[Starbucks Advertiser]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Even when they say, I don't want to be in this relationship anymore. See, relationships are easy to end if you're the one that's ending the relationship. It's never easy for the person that's getting broken up with.

[Angela Simmons]

That could be true.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So, you know, somebody's like, I want to move in a different direction. I don't like. Yeah. And they still hold.

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It's hard.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And then I got this. I know for one for 1000% certain, I've got this attachment with you forever. But I know I'm going to be in your life for the next 18 years. I know that 1000%.

[Angela Simmons]

That's the real thing with the kids. Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So.

[Angela Simmons]

But it gotta be healthy. Like, there's still ways to handle it. Even if your partner still wants to be with you, it's like, what's the healthy way to make sure that even if they have their thing, like, you still gotta handle them a certain way so that they understand I'm not playing.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I don't like to see you.

[Angela Simmons]

Huh?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I ain't gonna let you see the kid.

[Angela Simmons]

That's okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You either see me, you see me. You don't.

[Angela Simmons]

You can't do that. It's court.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Take it to the court.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

The thing is about court. Court are very lenient when it comes to women. Sometimes depending on guy, they knock fire from you. The ladies. Oh, we don't wanna. We don't wanna take the child from its mother. We don't want the child to see his mother being locked up. What about dad? You want to decide to see dad locked up?

[Angela Simmons]

No. This is. It's too deep. That's too deep. It can't go. I don't know. I just don't like drama. To me, have that in order. You got to figure out the order. You can't date.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So coming before they even step. Hey, make sure baby mom anything your co parenting, make sure it's co parenting. You're doing what's in the best interest for the child. And there ain't no situation where you going over there spending the night. And she's under the impression that there's a chance or a likelihood you two can get back together.

[Angela Simmons]

There can't be no impression. That's crazy. You can't date me and still have your baby mom thinking just an impression that we about to be together. That does not make sense. No. Then you should just be alone or figure out somebody who's cool with that. I wouldn't do that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. Did you see Nicki Glacier? She was on Call her daddy. Nicki Glazier, the comedian?

[Angela Simmons]

No, I didn't see it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

She said, but she likes to see her man have sex with other women. As long as there's not an emotional connection, don't be sitting there talking about, you know, blah, blah, blah, getting emotionally connected. But, you know, you wanna.

[Angela Simmons]

That sounds crazy.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I just said, I don't know about that. She said it. I don't know. Hey, but some women, you know, Some people have that type of relationship.

[Angela Simmons]

That's far out for me. I don't know about that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, you. You still on the traditional. It's me and you, baby.

[Angela Simmons]

Told you. Old school romance over here.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, that's crazy. If somebody would have said that she was like that, I wouldn't have believed it. But hearing it come out of her

[Angela Simmons]

own mouth, it's different.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I was like, why? I was like. And when you hear people like, oh, they're like that. They, you know, they. And you know, you like, man, ain't nobody really, like, ain't nobody fitting to let their wife or their husband engage in something and they watch. I said, ain't nobody doing that. But to hear it.

[Angela Simmons]

People into different type of stuff, though. I mean, and you gotta find your person that's into it with you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

I don't get too weird. No, that's wild.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Again, you say your son. How long are you in a relationship before someone actually get an opportunity to meet your son? Y' all go to dinner, y' all go to Dave and Buster's, or you do something fun like that. How long are you into that relationship?

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, I don't. I've realized that. I don't think it's always a specific time. It's more about where I'm at with the person.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Right.

[Tab Ramos]

Okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

If my son sees me on the phone 247 with this person FaceTime and flying out to see the. Where you go? And he's at the age of.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You hopping. You fly?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I get on a plane. Damn if I'm in a relationship. Damn if I'm in a relationship.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, I'm saying. So let's just say he's in California and y' all talking, blah, blah, blah. But you're not in a relationship yet. You hop on. You hop on a plane to go see him.

[Angela Simmons]

If we already. I mean, if we're not in a relationship, but we're dating, we talking.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, we talking like, hey, hey, why don't you come. Hey, why don't you. Hey. Let's just say somebody comes in town, you out with your girls.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And he pull up. You just gotta pull up at the spot, like, hey, how you doing? Such and such. My name is. My name is Bruce. Let's go with Bruce. Bruce.

[Angela Simmons]

Hey, Bruce.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Hey, you know, my name is Bruce. What you do, Bruce? Well, you know, I'm in. I'm in technology, so forth and so on. I'm in Silicon Valley, blah, blah, blah. What's Your name? Oh, your name. What's your name?

[Angela Simmons]

Angela.

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Angela.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Hey, what do you do, Angela?

[Angela Simmons]

I'm a fashion designer.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, you're a fashion designer. You have any kids?

[Angela Simmons]

I have one.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, okay. I like you. I like your smile.

[Angela Simmons]

Thank you.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

Nice smile.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I'd like to get to know you better. I'm only in town for a couple of days, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in coming to Cali to holler at your boy.

[Angela Simmons]

No. We can start here.

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Oh, my.

[Angela Simmons]

Jumping on a plate that quick?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, but I'm talking.

[Angela Simmons]

Bruce, you trippin'.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, Angela, I'm talking, but I can't. We not gonna talk the whole night. I wanna get to know you, Bruce.

[Angela Simmons]

You better fly back to Miami first and take me out here, and then I'll decide if I'm comfortable enough to decide to do. To go anywhere else with you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So he needs to come back, take you out. Y' all go out. Y' all go out to a nice dinner. You go out to Prime. Is that live? Is it Liv or Prime? What's the nice place here that can people be going?

[Angela Simmons]

I haven't been to prom in dumb. We can do.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We come to 11? We gonna come to 11. You wanna come to 11?

[Angela Simmons]

That's a club, though. We gotta.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. No, we gotta go. No, no, we gotta go. You'll go to a restaurant. We gotta go nice because I gotta be able to hear you. I can't be. Hey, hey, you like this place? How long you lived? I can't be yelling, casa.

[Angela Simmons]

Okay, we can do casa New wave. There's a lot of places.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. There are nice. A lot of places.

[Angela Simmons]

Really nice restaurant.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, we go to a really nice restaurant. Sit across. Am I sitting across from you or are you sitting next to him?

[Angela Simmons]

You should definitely sit across me. I don't know you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Bruce got to sit across. I just met Bruce.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. Damn, Bruce.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Mm.

[Angela Simmons]

Mm.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

This ain't going quite the way. Bruce ain't going.

[Angela Simmons]

Okay. Big, big Bruce sit over there. Bruce got to sit across.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. I'm sitting across from you, and I'm getting say. You know what? I really. I really like. I really enjoy talking to you. I think we have a lot in common. I think it would be really nice if, you know, I came back to see you. I'd really like for you to come see me. See me in my natural habitat as I saw you and yours, and see if this is something that we both can be amenable to and see where

[Angela Simmons]

it goes from there, right? So Bruce I think we should continue to talk on the phone and stuff and see what the vibes are. This dinner's been great and all, but I'm not sure that I want to fly to California yet. Eventually, though, but just maybe not yet.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

God dang.

[Angela Simmons]

What's wrong? We're just. The dinner's just begun.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, but I just. I flew out here last week. Now, granted, I happened to. There was happenstance that I ran into you with the girls, but then I just. I turned around and flew back the very following week from California to come back on a very special trip just to see Angie.

[Angela Simmons]

Bruce, you got to go with the flow. You doing too much, Bruce.

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So how many times would Bruce need to come back to convince you to make you feel comfortable? And then. And are you. Does Bruce need to get you a hotel, or are you staying with him?

[Angela Simmons]

I'm staying where I live.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You don't live in Cali, do you?

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, you mean when I pull up there? No hotel, for sure.

[Tab Ramos]

Okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm not coming to your house, Bruce.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Bruce. Got to put me. I'm in a hotel for sure.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, okay, okay. Okay. I'm just checking. Do you ever get nervous of meeting stalkers or bad stalkers? You had them.

[Angela Simmons]

Mm. Pull up, show up to my house, like, years ago. Like, it was, like, one guy just kept showing up. It was pretty creepy, actually. Tried to get a restraining order on him. There's weird people in the world.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

Really?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, when you hear stuff like that of, like, people showing up and you saw this situation with Rihanna and asap, or you see people, like. And you hear, like, people trying to jump the fence and you and Chris Brown having stuff. I'm like, people really sick like that.

[Angela Simmons]

I had something like that happen, even in Florida. One time, I was on a beach, and there was a guy who always writes in my DMs to me, and that day just happened to be a random day. I was, like, running on the beach, and I'm like, that look like the dude. I'm, like, far down the beach, and I see him, and it's the dude from my Instagram on the beach.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Did he know you were there?

[Angela Simmons]

I didn't even post I was there that day, like, at all. And he started walking up on me. I had to go get with a stranger, go to the cops. Like, it was a whole thing. But it happens. And it's happened more than once to me before. It's definitely a interesting, scary thing.

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[Angela Simmons]

I turned off news altogether.

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's the rage bait.

[Angela Simmons]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we could calm down a little.

[NBC News Announcer]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

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[Angela Simmons]

Hey, stay in your lane.

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[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

[Angela Simmons]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Want the full story?

[Angela Simmons]

Take a listen, Hedi. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

I mean, I watch the Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Angela Simmons]

She says he's a quote, very str. But they do get along really well.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Give us examples.

[Angela Simmons]

I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new Episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Goodbye.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Have you thought about the ideal way someone could propose to you? I mean, do you have an idea in your head or what? It's like, are you in a foreign country or does he have the rose petals or does he. Is he at a big event or is your family involved? Have you thought that far in advance how you would like to get that question popped?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't. See, the thing is, like, if I'm that in love, I really. It could be an intimate moment. It can be a big moment in my fairytale head. Like, I like big, like in the sky. And, like, I want it big. You know what I mean? Of course I would want my family to know my dad to be a part of knowing that you're.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

No, I'm already. I'm gonna ask your dad, but he ain't gonna be there. That's your.

[Angela Simmons]

Bruce.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I'm just saying I've already got his blessing.

[Angela Simmons]

Okay, so you got the blessing.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I got the blessing.

[Angela Simmons]

But I would say, like, I just, I would be like, ideally, I love the beach.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

And I like roses, so rose petals and fireworks and.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Would you want your son to be there?

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, that would be cute. See, I would be open to it. I'm really like, not just the idea of being proposed to, like, by someone I love to me like this, like, more than enough. Like so, like, however they do it,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

like, so just let's say for the.

[Angela Simmons]

And then the wedding could be fired.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Say for the sake of argument, you guys at the beach, you know, and your son is dressed like him.

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

Aw.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Got little linen pants rolled up. He's barefooted, got a little linen shirt on.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And he walks out. He like, hey, like, what are you doing here? Hey, mom. And you know, just a little chit chat. And then all of a sudden he's down on one knee.

[Angela Simmons]

Aw. I cry. I'm cry baby when it comes to stuff like that. Romance.com. it's so cute. Especially involving my son. That's important to, like, my son being a part of it and whoever I'm with. Being, like, a part of my son's life, that's, like, very important to me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Did you see the random man proposing to Keke Palmer? Have you. Have you ever been. I mean, have you ever been proposed to and said, no?

[Angela Simmons]

No, I've been proposed to. Like, and I did not say no, it was really cute.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Would you say, no,

[Angela Simmons]

I don't have to. I mean, I hope whoever's trying to marry me know that I want to marry them. If I don't, I don't. Let's not get there. I don't want to be the one to be like, now. Let's discuss later,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

unfortunately, and you can say, no, you don't wanna talk about this. But you've been in relationships that were abusive. How do. And it's easy to say, just leave the man, yell the man put his hands on you, leave the first time. How difficult is it to be in a relationship that's not beneficial, that's become verbally, physically abusive, and to just leave after the first. Because I've heard women say, that's the first time I did something, I provoked it. And I've never seen that side of him again. And I don't expect to see it again. And then whether it's a week, a year, a month, or however long it's been, it happens again.

[Angela Simmons]

I think you just wind up in, like, that situation. It's something that you can't. You just don't know. Like, you look up and starts maybe slow, and then it kind of progressively gets, like. Becomes more and more and more. And it's a scary place to be in, I think for a woman. I think I know for a woman, because a man, the man that you trust, and then the idea of them either hitting you, throwing things at you, yelling at you, it's a very scary place to be dealing with that and going through that and have been through that in my life was. I was like, this feels like surreal. Like, I can't even imagine, like, how I'm dealing with it, but it changes you. And it. It's just so much about that. Like, I think I've done so much therapy behind that stuff that I probably don't even. The way I process it now is so different, right? Cause I went through it and then I came through it, and I had conversations with therapists in life, and it helped me process what was going on. And you know, not to blame myself. And like, just there's so many, like, things you have to go through to get through what that even feels like. But I think what happens with women is you don't want to leave the person you love the person. Right. So you're like, but that's just a different side to them maybe, and you hope it doesn't come back out like you said. And sometimes it does. And then you're like, okay, it's the second time time and this third time. And at some point you have to say, you know what? Enough's enough. And I have to get out of this, and it's not healthy for me. I think sometimes women say because they have kids or they don't have a way out or they don't have the means or finances to get out, so they stay. But it's. It's a very tough place to be in. Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Are there signs that you've been in a abusive relationship before? Are they signed that you look for? Say, yeah, I see where this is going. Now I'm out of here.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, sometimes the men are over controlling or I think the first time, like a man gets out of control, like his anger. When a man can't control his anger, that's when, you know, like, it can get to that point or get to that level, you know, so. But I feel like you see the red flags or you see the signs and maybe you may ignore them until you get to that moment and you're like, you know what? I knew this could happen. But.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But you know what? Women have attacked you on social media. How did you learn not to let their comments get to you? Because it's tough, because you like, bro, I would like to think that we're in the same. We're in the same, but we're women. We should probably stick together. We should probably be united in one front, but probably more women attack you than men.

[Angela Simmons]

It's so disgusting, actually. But I have learned to just not care. I don't. It's such a strong I don't care. And I learned it early on because I dealt with so many people's opinions for so long that I got to a point where it used to bother me when I was young and got to think because I was 17 going on TV and that was the era of the paparazzi, so they're catching all the bad angles of you and they're posting it and everyone had their opinions then. And I was like, this is affecting me. You know what I mean? But I just started to gain the confidence to say, you know what? I don't care. And I just stand by it. I let people say what they say, and I'm like, block, delete. Shut up. You don't. You know, I mean, like, to me, you're not. You don't matter to me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Right. You know, what is it about that people think. I mean, and I don't think people would say if they saw you on the street. I think the people that post comments, I don't think they would say that to you if they saw you in person. Cause a lot of comments that I get cyber bullies. Yeah. You know, everybody have courage, have Twitter muscles and big, strong thumbs, literally. It's just hard for me to believe that some of the things that get said to me on social media, that if they saw me in person, they

[Angela Simmons]

would say to my face, they ain't gonna say it. Most of the time they won't.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And I'm just like. I'm just like, you don't even know me. I mean. And, you know, and sometimes I think they're like, they wanna get a response. They kind of rage bait, or they're trying to get other people on their side to try. Like, okay, it.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, Like, I don't. I. I honestly am a blocker and a deleter. That's what I do. I see a comment. This is still. Sometimes I want to respond, but I'm like, it's not even worth it. You are a waste of my. My time. Like, I have better things to be doing than to responding to negative negativity.

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You've been a situation. You've been in the public eye for a very, very long time now. And you had. You haven't had any surgeries and based on comments because they're, I mean, like I said, social media, you fat, you ugly. You need to do this, you need to do that, and then. And people sometimes succumb to that. And the first thing they say, I don't know why you got surgery after

[Angela Simmons]

you was probably the one in my comments talking about, you need to go nip and tuck, dad. Or you need to do like, you told me to go do this, and

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

now I did it.

[Angela Simmons]

And you, like, that was dumb, should have left it alone.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

How have you been able to, like, drown out all that noise and, like, I love me. You might not love me, might love me or how I look or how I'm shaped or whatever the case may be, but I love me. And I'm not gonna let what you have to say, influence what I'm going to do with my body.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah. To me, it's my world, and you're living in it. If you're on my page, like you're following what I'm doing, then that means you're here. But I'm me and I love me, and I know what I'm doing with me. But you don't like it. But that don't matter to me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Correct.

[Angela Simmons]

You know what I mean? You here today, gone tomorrow. If I was gone tomorrow, then it's, oh, what a good person. You know what I mean? So it's like it don't matter what comes out of someone else's mouth to me. Like, if it's negative, y' all can have that. I know. I. I am strongly sure of who I am.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Right.

[Angela Simmons]

So I don't need them to tell me who I am or tell me what I look like.

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

If I gain weight, I know I gain weight. If I lost weight, I know I lost weight. If I put on muscle, I know I got muscle, you know, like, so it's like, you don't have to tell me nothing. I don't. I don't. Just don't engage in it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You ain't going to do that, Zic, is it?

[Angela Simmons]

Huh?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You ain't going to do that. Zpic, Ellie.

[Angela Simmons]

You talking about Zpic?

[Starbucks Advertiser]

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[Angela Simmons]

I mean, I've done GPL ones before.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

Why?

[Angela Simmons]

Cause I wanted to. Because I wanted to see, like, how much weight I would lose, and I wanted.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Would you lose as much as you

[Angela Simmons]

thought or more like £20 in like two or three months?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

20?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, it was at least 20.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Good God.

[Angela Simmons]

And then I was like, okay, I want my thickness back. I was like, no, because I work out a lot, right?

[Tab Ramos]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

For me, just. I want to be able to keep muscle mass and stuff. And I was realizing I'm working out and lifting weights, but I'm not seeing the results I want.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You do realize that being a vegan is not gonna help you eat muscle because you need protein, animal protein, to build deficits.

[Angela Simmons]

But I don't want it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You just said you want it, but

[Angela Simmons]

I don't want the meat.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

How you gonna get the.

[Angela Simmons]

I've ate meat before and I still didn't have it, so it's okay.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, you do realize is that the texture of your muscles, the density, the oomph of your muscle come from eat. You know, that's when humans really started to evolve, when they started eating meat, protein. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tab Ramos]

You do.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You realize that, right?

[Angela Simmons]

I Do I feel.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And you know, animal protein is different than plant based protein.

[Angela Simmons]

I know. It's two different things.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

But I'm. I just like how I eat right now.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But you just said you wanted your thickness in your curd.

[Angela Simmons]

No, I got it. I'm good. I'm back.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

How about this business? What have you learned about business? You've been a businesswoman, like you said, since you were 17, 18. Very few people are in business as long as you've been in business.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah. I would say it's forever evolving. Like, and that for me, I've just. I've learned so much from the first business my sister and I started to. The ones that I've started to. What I've seen, it's just forever evolving. And it's important to stay up and up to date with what's happening and be around people that know more than you. My biggest thing is, like, I like getting information from people who have successfully done things. Like, okay, so what can I do here? Like, when it comes to even, like, resources in my family, does this make sense? How do I do this? How do I pivot? Does this not make sense? But also being okay with not, you know, some people think, you get into business tomorrow, this is gonna be how you want it to be. It don't work like that. You got to stay in that thing.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

You got to push. You got to keep moving. So being your number one biggest fan. Right. And pushing it. Cause everyone's not gonna believe in you every day. And you obviously having the right crew around you that will uplift you, but you got to believe in yourself and push yourself.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

What. What advice did you wish you had had or knew before you even got into business?

[Angela Simmons]

What advice? I think what I would have wanted to know is the difference between licensing and owning. In the beginning, when it came to that. That world, I didn't know because I was, like, so young, but I learned, and I'm like, okay, now I know the difference between owning something outright and I was so young at the time.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And a license it out to someone else.

[Angela Simmons]

Exactly.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, you did business with slutty vegan Pinky Cole. And obviously she had a little hard time. Seemingly she's getting back on her feet. What did you learn from that situation?

[Angela Simmons]

From which part? What situation?

Her.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, her. You know, I mean, because at the peak, like, during COVID her restaurants, man. I mean, what she have.

[Angela Simmons]

She expanded very quickly.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

That's what you think it was. She expanded too quickly.

[Angela Simmons]

I don't think nothing's too quickly. I think it's just about, you know, sometimes it could be team, it could be who you have around. It can be how it's being managed. It's so many things that go into running a business. And I think that she still successfully, like, is moving and doing what she needs to do. Some people, you know, that may happen, they be like, they give up, they stop. And then that's the problem. Never give up to keep going. And Pinky is a businesswoman and she still pushing, moving, got, got, got her stuff going. I mean, I don't, I think she's learning as she goes like everyone else.

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[Angela Simmons]

I turned off news altogether.

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

It's the rage being.

[Angela Simmons]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.

[NBC News Announcer]

NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

it's Karen and Georgia from My favorite Murder.

[Angela Simmons]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ionic 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamar.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Angela Simmons]

Hetty. She starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him?

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

I mean, I watch the Aviator so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator, right?

[Angela Simmons]

She says he's a, quote, very strange man, but they do get along really well.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Give us examples.

[Angela Simmons]

I know they do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of, like, what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode, spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy and Lamar and Billie

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Jean King, presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Angela Simmons]

Goodbye.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

What about the Oreo bathtub situation? I mean, Oreo, Oreo. Like, yeah, we cool with it. I mean, everybody. But what I'm trying to figure out, when did people become so invested in other people's lives? Was it always, like, maybe I was

[Angela Simmons]

just promoting my cakes, Angela's cakes. So I didn't understand, you know, what the big deal. I mean, I guess it was interesting. I was in a tub with Oreos.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, but how many bags of Oreos was it?

[Angela Simmons]

That's a real good question, Cleo. How many bags was that? You remember?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

40, 50.

[Angela Simmons]

You remember? And first of all, it was heavy. Like, I was actually in Oreos.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

And I was like, stood up. It was a whole thing. I was like, help me up.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

It's got to be more. I was gonna say. Yeah.

[Angela Simmons]

And we might have only not used 10. Like, eight or 10 of them. I was in there. Our fried Oreos with. With slutty vegan. Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You like fried Oreos?

[Angela Simmons]

I do, actually. Yeah, I do. The first time I had them was at prime in Miami, actually.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Really? Yeah. Yeah, they're good.

[Angela Simmons]

Ooh.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

They're really good.

[Angela Simmons]

It's just, like. Just right.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

My mom used to work at Nabisco for real, so I Done ate so many Chips Ahoy. Oreos.

[Angela Simmons]

You cookied out.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes. Ritz crackers.

[Angela Simmons]

Stop it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Big Newtons.

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, you had it all. That's kind of cool.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, but I like fried ore. But were you surprised at the backlash that you received for that, or are you not surprised at anything now? I think you are. You to the point now that whatever you do, you realize that, you know what 50 cents said? Something very interesting. He said, look, no matter what you feel about something, somebody is gonna be vehemently opposed to how you feel about that.

[Angela Simmons]

It's true, though. I think people have their own opinions, and I've learned to just, like, let it ride. Like, that's how you feel either I'm sorry for you, or Great. We both are agreed

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

investments. I mean, everybody says, you know what the best investment now is better than the S P is Hermes bags.

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, Hermes. Yes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You. You girl.

[Angela Simmons]

I like Hermes. We love Hermes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

We do. Oh, you do?

[Angela Simmons]

We? Me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Women. Women love Hermes. Yeah, okay. Yeah, but how many is enough?

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, it's like owning property. And you watch and look at all your property in your closet.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

So obviously, you probably started out, you got what they got. The little mini Kelly. Now I think they got What, a Kelly 30.

[Angela Simmons]

I seen you had something Hermes when I walked in here.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This ain't about me. You ain't interviewing. I'm interviewing you. Don't worry about what I got over here.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm like, you know about them bags,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

but I'm saying, you got a little mini. You got a little mini. I'm talking about a little mini like this here.

[Angela Simmons]

Mini Kelly's.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Mini Kelly. Now, what they got? A 25, 30.

[Angela Simmons]

The 25. The. Don't give me the line. All the sizes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But, But I mean, now. And so you look at it like you trying to get the Himalaya.

[Angela Simmons]

I have one of them Himalayas.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, you got one?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Ah, B.

[Angela Simmons]

Will you stop?

[Lilly Medicine Company Announcer]

Dang.

[Angela Simmons]

Will you stop?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You got a Hemalaya?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I posted it. I got it for my birthday. But not under the glasses looking at me. I know.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I, I, I know he's still in the picture. I know he could have. Ain't no way we forever till they'll do us part. I spent Street 4 on a file. Ain't nobody going nowhere. I'm sleeping on the couch, baby. You have the bedroom until we figure this out.

[Angela Simmons]

Not until we figure it out.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, man, that kind of money. Angela, what you say you got it for? You said you got it, which means you not with the person that. Oh, oh, oh, Lord.

[Angela Simmons]

Not you falling out.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, I'm sick. Ah, Angela, really? Angela.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You can leave somebody that got you that kind of. That gave you that kind of gift. If he got you that kind of gift, I hate to see. I can just imagine the kind of gifts that he got that led up to that.

[Angela Simmons]

You too funny,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Angela. You better go get it back. Don't you let nobody get that bag. That man buying Himalayans.

[Angela Simmons]

Not looking around like that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You don't think that's odd?

[Starbucks Advertiser]

What?

[Angela Simmons]

What's odd?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

And he got you a Himalayan. That ain't the first Birkin he bought. I know a thing or two about men. Well, when they get. When they. When they go to that level. When they get to that level right there, there's a step.

[Angela Simmons]

You know, how many steps are there in between?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

They're probably about three or four.

[Angela Simmons]

Three or four till you get to that one.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Get to that one.

[Angela Simmons]

He started the.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You probably started playing the Kelly. Yeah, the Kelly. And then, you know, you got little mini. And then you go to the 30, and then you start getting to the skin. Maybe it's ostrich, maybe it's croc. But then when you get to the big boy, that's when you step into the house with both feet.

[Angela Simmons]

I mean. Yeah, they're great bags. Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Going to get him back. You gonna get it back. It won't be long. Hey, bro.

[Angela Simmons]

What is going on? No, stop.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

What you mean? Nobody gonna get that bad back. Oh, ain't nobody had to go do. Go be better than him. To you getting all that stuff. I. And Birkin. So that mean he done bought jewelry. He done. Cause. Cause for you, like, earlier we were talking about, you know, you like flowers, you know, you like, you know, going.

[Angela Simmons]

Thoughtfulness.

[NBC News Announcer]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, we like thoughtfulness.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

He thoughtful.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Really in depth.

[Angela Simmons]

I could see that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I can see. No, no, no. You saw that. He was seeing. You saw it. I can see it.

[Angela Simmons]

You saw it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You saw it.

[Angela Simmons]

You are crazy.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Act. Yeah, you. An episode of the Game with Laura London.

[Angela Simmons]

How was that? I saw that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Love it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Is that what you want to do? You like to do acting?

[Angela Simmons]

I like acting. I can act. Yeah. Acting is. I did. I actually filmed something. I did a cameo this year that should be coming out. I like acting it naturally. Like, it just. It's in me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You want to do more? You want to do more acting?

[Angela Simmons]

I definitely want to do more acting.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Have you turned out any opportunities?

[Angela Simmons]

No, I don't turn down opportunities to act. Not at All I have a coach, and, you know, when I do something, I like to do it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Do it all the way.

[Angela Simmons]

Do it right.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Right.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

This video with you boxing Brandi. What's your relationship with Brandi? Cause she back. She back. I mean, she just wrote a memoir. And, you know, I haven't read it. I'm looking. I'm gonna thumb through it. I wanna see. Cause, look, we grew up with Brandi. I mean, she burst on the scene. I think he was like, 15, 16 years of age. And here she is, this. You know, had this unbelievable career. And she said some things. I think, you know, people are kind of upset with what she said. But that's her life. That's her experience. How do you get to tell somebody what they experienced or what they didn't experience when you didn't go through that experience?

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I mean, I think everyone's story is their own, like, story, and it's their unique story or what everybody's been through.

[Starbucks Advertiser]

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[Angela Simmons]

Brandi I met a while back, and we actually did bond over boxing in New York. And we started. She would come and box with me in New York, and that was so long ago. Like, we used to actually box together, so that was fun. My hairstylist Nick, actually does her hair as well. So. It's a small world, right?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

What do people get wrong about Brandi? Because, like, you have a very intimate relationship. You have a very different relationship with her.

[Angela Simmons]

Well, I wouldn't say we're super close right now, but I've been around her numerous times. Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Now you're into the music business.

[Angela Simmons]

Yes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Are you gonna be in front of the microphone? You wanna be producer? You wanna be.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

So what?

[Angela Simmons]

I am a woman that wears many hats, but I am signed to Ruff Ryders, actually, and the single I just put out, I did a deal with them. So I will be writing, I will be creating, I will be producing, but I also am bringing on. I like to bring on the team that can help me navigate everything. I believe in creative vision, but I have some really dope, incredible people behind me down to the prod and everything that I'm working on.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I don't know if you noticed, but you was in a situation where you had a guy. He had a little music company.

[Angela Simmons]

A what?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

He had a music company.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm not about to play with you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Angela Simmons]

But I am. Me, too. And I've been doing these things, and I'm born into music as well.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I know you are.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

But I mean, you had a guy, one of the hardest.

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, are you trying to put me back with him?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I ain't trying to do nothing. I'm minding my black business, not my black business. That's what I do.

[Angela Simmons]

Do I? I'm.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, y' all gonna be back together. Watch.

[Angela Simmons]

What is this? Am I. Is this a joke?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I give it April next 5 cent month.

[Angela Simmons]

Where you get this number from?

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

It's an arbitrary number, but I just feel it.

[Angela Simmons]

It's what you feel for me sitting here.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Cuz I met him one time. I met him when I sat down with Glow.

[Angela Simmons]

I feel like we go together. Yeah, Yeah.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I mean, look, I've had peanut butter sandwiches, I've had jelly sandwiches, but I think they just better together.

[Angela Simmons]

Peanut butter and jelly. That's what we're going with. Khalilah, save me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Nope, nope. She can't. She can't.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Please.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You said in the music thing you wear many hats. You like to write. You like produce. You like to, you know, sing?

[Angela Simmons]

Well, I'm not singing. I am actually, I would say, doing spoken word.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Spoken word. Oh, did you.

[Angela Simmons]

If you heard my song.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I haven't.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm gonna need to play that in here. We're gonna.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I'm gonna go listen to it. So you're a spoken word type of gal.

[Angela Simmons]

We should play that for you. We need to play it. Okay, let me get my phone. I'm gonna let you hear a little bit. You gotta hear what I'm doing. You can't even properly ask me. We. We had a. You ain't seen my video or nothing?

[Tab Ramos]

No.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

How long has it been out?

[Angela Simmons]

Since March 13th.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

It ain't even been a month.

[Angela Simmons]

Oh, you got it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Feel like it been out for like years.

[Angela Simmons]

So here it is. It's me.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, that's you.

[Angela Simmons]

And we're gonna give you a little tester right on here. So that's reza.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You ain't going to get out this show copyrighted, are you? This. You right.

[Angela Simmons]

It's mine.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. Cuz we have to get this cleared. And then you take my whole.

[Angela Simmons]

You know, we going to clear it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Trying to find which way to go. Do I go left? Maybe I'm just giving you a flavor. I ain't going to play the whole thing, but have you ever. Have you ever read your truth? You can't live a lie. It's time to come up out of that now. Shafau, run to Jada, kiss his part. I got Jada on the song.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, really?

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, so you got some heavy Hitters on. Oh, okay.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, we doing. Doing music.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Let me ask you this. How did you decide to get into music?

[Angela Simmons]

I went in the studio one day, like, two years ago. I actually have 12 songs I've already recorded, and I'm working on my music project, but I just felt led to go into the studio. And when I went in there, I went with what the feeling and how I felt. And, like, I've been a fan of music since I was a little girl. Obviously, growing up around it has impacted me. And I just love music. I don't do nothing without music. Like, I like to listen in the morning, night. Like, so when you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Cookie, you listen to music, you taking a shower, you listen to music, you cleaning? Well, you don't clean. You know you want to.

[Angela Simmons]

I mean, I like people to help me clean, but lightly cleaning. I listen to music, but I do like. I like. I love music. Like, music is, like, a part of everything that I do. So when I went into the studio, I just went with the vibes, and I was like, okay, this is what it is.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

When your dad. Did your dad wrap around the house?

[Angela Simmons]

No, but I do remember, like, going in the basement and seeing, like, his turntables, his gold robes. Like, he would always have, like, the merch around the house. Like, I could think back, like, to the rendezvous.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

He still got those fair changes. No, big gold. You know, those big gold.

[Angela Simmons]

I haven't seen those, but I used to see them and put them around my neck and play with them. Why would you, like. Why would I do that? Like, I didn't even realize how cool that was.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Women. Who's your favorite woman's rapper?

[Angela Simmons]

Ooh. Who do I listen to the most?

[NBC News Announcer]

Oh, really?

[Angela Simmons]

I do love Glow. Of course I love Glow.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah, Glow.

[Angela Simmons]

But I. I listen to so many rappers. I feel like, let me look at who's my last. You'll make me think. Think now, I like to pull up exact. I have Lotto's new song on here.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay. Big Mama.

[Angela Simmons]

Yeah, I like her.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Big Mama about to be out of commission. She about to have a baby.

[Angela Simmons]

That's so cute. I love that. But I like. I love Cardi. Cardi.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Oh, look at her.

[Angela Simmons]

I love me some Cardi B. I

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

need to get Cardi on the show. Cardi, you watching? Come sit down with your boy.

[Angela Simmons]

Cardi's dope.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I love Cardi B. You can't make me hate Cardi.

[Angela Simmons]

She's so good.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

I love the way she. I mean, she's so animated. She's so real. I just Love the way she talks.

[Angela Simmons]

She's a boss, she's a mom. Like, she's just so many amazing things. But I really like Cardi and I heard her concert.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

She's been doing really well.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm trying to go, I think she's coming this week here.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

Oh really?

[Angela Simmons]

I think so. The 14th or something like that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Who's your favorite R B artist?

[Angela Simmons]

Ooh, that's tough. I love rb.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

I'm on Ella Ma on repeat right now.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Really?

[Angela Simmons]

Her lover. Her album is so like, it's like love. I just love, love

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

you. And viral for wearing a Yankees fitty corset.

[Angela Simmons]

Lord,

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

are you surprised now?

[Angela Simmons]

I just didn't think it was that deep. I'm into fashion, so like, you know the stylist, Mickey Boom and I, I was like, I want to look, I want this New York like nostalgic feeling. When I shot the video, the music video for a run to and I was like, let's think like Tim's hats. And like he came and he's like, what about if we do this? And I was like, I love it. It, I didn't think it was like crazy that there was two hats. Like, right. I just thought it was cool.

[Starbucks Advertiser]

Right.

[Angela Simmons]

Cuz I'm creative, so I didn't, no, I didn't think it was a viral moment.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

When, when you wear an outfit and you see said same outfit on the, on the Internet when somebody else is wearing it, how do you feel? You like, yeah, I ain't wearing this no more.

[Angela Simmons]

No, I, I, I don't mind inspiring like culture or being a part of like fashion moments. And I'm not like looking to do it. I'm just like naturally being me, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just like cool. Like that's dope. Like if I can inspire somebody else, I think it's cool.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You mentioned what made you decide to sign to Ruff Ryders.

[Angela Simmons]

So there's a lot of family history and legacy there. And WA is family, Jeanine is family. And I literally went to them with my record, spoke to them and it was history from there.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Your brother Diggy and a lot of people thought like, you know what, it just runs in the family. He's gonna be great. He kind of put it down for a minute. Some says, hey, he might have been Drake. We never know. Why do you think he stopped rapping?

[Angela Simmons]

I think everything is season by season, choice by choice, and everyone has the right to evolve to whoever they want to be. So I don't, I wouldn't Want to speak for him. I just think it's just where he wants to be right now.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

He gonna be on your ass?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't know. That's a good. A good question.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

When is it dropping?

[Angela Simmons]

I don't have a date yet on that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Okay, who's some. Some of the people that. That's going to be on there. You mentioned Jada. Who's else.

[NBC News Announcer]

Who.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Who else is going to be on there with?

[Angela Simmons]

So right now I'm still working on the project, and so I don't have anyone necessarily confirmed, but there are definitely a lot of people I'm in talks with that should be a part of it. Will be part of it.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Is there any surprise guests, you guys? So you don't wanna talk about it just yet until it happens?

[Angela Simmons]

Because I don't have the definite, like, confirmed locked in. I don't want nobody be like, I ain't say that.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

The Oreo campaign, there was a lot of backlash, but there was a lot of support, not only from Oreo, who obviously loved it, but there were a lot of supporters that like, bro, this is great. We love what you did.

[Angela Simmons]

Well, the good part is actually Angela's cakes right this second is actually sold out and we're reing up our inventory, so we're doing extremely well. So it did what it was supposed to do.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yes.

[Angela Simmons]

Everyone.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

You got people talking about it? Yep.

[Angela Simmons]

Taking the cakes.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Yeah.

[Boost Mobile Advertiser]

Wow.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Ms. Angela Simmons.

[Angela Simmons]

Thank you.

[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

Thank you so much and we really appreciate it. Y' all know who it is. It's your favorite, unc. And I want to thank Eleven nightclub for having us. We could not have done this without you. So I appreciate the last three days and what you've been able to done. We want to thank your staff. We want to thank the everybody that was a part of this that made this possible. The wonderful Marissa that brought us the drinks every day that we came out. So everybody at 11 nightclub, thank you so much for your hospitality. And everybody at Club Shay Shay wants to thank you because none of this is possible without you. So thank you guys. We really, really appreciate it and we look forward to coming back down here and shooting again with you guys soon. Thank you very much, 11. All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice Hustle paid the price wanna slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life all my life Been grinding All my life Sacrifice.

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[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Hi, it's Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder.

[Angela Simmons]

We cruised around LA in the Hyundai Ionic 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Want the full story? Take a listen.

[Angela Simmons]

She starts dating Howard Hughes and in fact she helps him design a faster plane. So she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King.

[Karen Kilgariff or Georgia Hardstark (My Favorite Murder hosts)]

Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5.

[Angela Simmons]

Goodbye.

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[Uncle Luke (Luther Campbell)]

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