Club Shay Shay - Blueface Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Blueface Part 1 (December 24, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Hall of Fame NFL legend Shannon Sharpe interviews platinum-selling rapper and media personality Blueface. This candid conversation covers Blueface’s journey—from his upbringing and football career to his time in jail and eventual rise in the music industry. Blueface shares personal reflections on family dynamics, lessons learned from incarceration, battles with substance use, and his ventures into business.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Tattoos, Prime Years, and Self-Reflection

• Tattoos and Symbolism:

  • Blueface discusses his face and body tattoos, including a paper airplane (symbolizing "fly") and his considerations about further tattoos.

    “I wanna get my nose too, but I'm still like, trying to figure out what would be, you know, worth getting.” – Blueface [03:16]

  • He admits to getting tattoos in jail despite it being illegal, valuing the story:

    “I just wanted prison tatts. I wanted to say, I got it in prison type shit.” – Blueface [27:16]

• Life Change & Sobriety:

  • Recently stopped drinking and smoking, influenced by his time incarcerated.

    “It's jail. I guess I kind of went a long time without it, so just stuck with it, you know, Working out now, right?” – Blueface [04:25]

  • Reflects on decision-making and substance use:

    “Not smoking necessarily, but drinking. Yeah, maybe. Cause I'm a reactor, you know... I react, I don't really act too much.” – Blueface [05:55]

• Self-Perception:

  • Contemplates what his older self would say about his current path, admitting some regret about past relationships and decisions.

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Prison Experience & Its Impact

• Life in Prison:

  • Describes daily life, food, routines, and how he engaged in self-improvement through classes and working out:

    “No, prison is pretty like up to date these days. They got classes and whatnot, you know, self help groups and college courses.” – Blueface [09:00]

  • Finds the experience gave him clarity and a break from responsibilities:

    “Being in jail is a break from it.” – Blueface [84:58]

• People’s Reactions & Trust:

  • He recounts how friends and associates changed once he was incarcerated:

    “People that you thought was cool… when it was going good… But all of a sudden it’s not as good as it once was... they ain’t answering the calls.” – Shannon Sharpe [08:39];
    “Yep, that’s what makes the difference right there. That’s what wakes you up, you know…” – Blueface [08:52]

• Recidivism & Determination Not to Return:

  • Strongly asserts he doesn't want to return to prison:

    “I always told myself I'll never come back here unless it's life or death, you know.” – Blueface [08:23]

• Classes & Growth in Prison:

  • Details participation in the Compassion Prison Project, theater and computer classes, which helped him gain empathy and practical skills.

    “It’s like, teach you how to have compassion in prison. You know, more victim awareness… just opens you up a little bit more to the other side of the gun…” – Blueface [86:01]

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Family, Fatherhood, and Relationships

• Fatherhood Style:

  • Proudly identifies as a “fun dad,” struggles to discipline his children, leaving most discipline to their mothers:

    “I am a fun dad. You know, I just come in and make it, have a good time.” – Blueface [14:54] “It’s hard for me. It’s hard for me.” – Blueface [15:01]

• Reflections on His Upbringing:

  • Shares experiences growing up in a split household, moving from the hood to more affluent areas due to his mother’s efforts.

    “My mom felt like she had to move us out the hood. So she just started like a cock chasing, you know. You know what I mean? Trying to find rich men…” – Blueface [31:16]

  • His relationship with his mom is complicated; he feels she’s over-involved and sometimes sabotages his romantic relationships:

    “My mom was DMing him... she just sabotages the relationship. Every single one.” – Blueface [35:36]

• Relationship with Father & Family Boundaries:

  • His father lives with him and treats him as an adult, contrasting with his mother:

    “Cause he respects me, you know? Like, my mom doesn't respect me as an adult.” – Blueface [42:55]

  • Wishes his mom would respect his boundaries regarding partners and his life choices.

    “Just let me introduce you to them, right? Don't introduce yourself to them.” – Blueface [39:35]

• Mother’s Involvement in His Business:

  • Tapped his mother to help run his first restaurant, which turned problematic due to overspending and financial mismanagement.

    “She taking out loans, credit cards, the business name, you know. Without me knowing, approving, Right. So she just hit me with the debt…” – Blueface [90:32]

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Early Life: School, Football, and Hustling

• Football Aspirations:

  • Was a talented quarterback aspiring to go far, but politics and lack of play time led him to leave college early.

    “That's kinda how life work. You know that, right? If you don't do the job, they gonna hire somebody else to do it for sure.” – Shannon [49:16] “If they see this report card, Shannon, they gonna think I'm a dumbass. I just need to go ahead and go home.” – Blueface [55:10]

• Transition from College to Survival Hustle:

  • After leaving college, couch-surfed and lived precariously, took up various jobs (Office Depot, porter at apartments), each of which ended due to underperformance or hustling schemes.

    “I reprint the receipt, steal what they bought, go take it to the next Office Depot, return it and get the cash.” – Blueface [65:19]

• Turn to Illegal Activities:

  • After a series of fired jobs, started selling weed and crack; got arrested for having marijuana before its legalization, recounting his mistakes in a deadpan, self-deprecating style.

    “This was my first run in with the law, so I wasn't even too hip to like, you know, they might fuck with you if you don't be a dick to them. Right. So I'm telling him to take me to jail.” – Blueface [74:02]

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Criminal Charges, Celebrations, and Redemption

• Perspective on 'Coming Home' Parties:

  • Debates with Shannon Sharpe about the value and meaning of celebrating someone’s return from jail versus academic or other traditional accomplishments.

    “I think anybody that's living they truth should be celebrated, you know, Anybody that's doing it the right way. So it don't even gotta be Jake.” – Blueface [78:19] “Coming home from prison, mean you didn't do it the right way, but you coming home from an environment that you're not gonna appreciate life if they don't appreciate you coming home.” – Blueface [78:35]

• Las Vegas Shooting Case & Reflection:

  • Details circumstances around his shooting charge—claiming he reacted out of fear and habit from past experiences.

    “I felt like my life was in danger, you know… Somebody pull up. You know, it's just. I've been there before, so I just did what I known to do in that moment.” – Blueface [83:08]

• Conflict Resolution Beliefs:

  • Advocates for conversation or “gloving up” (boxing) to resolve disputes, rather than violence.

    “I think a conversation, it's the best way. Or boxing gloves, you know, if the conversation doesn't get as progressive as it should.” – Blueface [83:31]

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Entrepreneurship & Music Career

• Investing in Restaurants:

  • Moved into restaurant ownership as a way to stabilize his finances and create legitimate income streams; details the learning curve and struggles with family in business.

    “I'm an investor, man. That's what I am. I think that's what I'm good at. I don't want to run it. I just want to see it.” – Blueface [92:05]

• Business Lessons Learned:

  • Now focuses on investments where his involvement is more strategic and less hands-on, noting the volatility of the restaurant biz but seeing it as a long-term play.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I'm in my prime right now.” – Blueface [04:44]
• “I'm not out to hurt anybody. I'm not out to get anybody. I'm living too good.” – Blueface [17:43]
• “You don't get to decide who we clap for.” – Blueface on celebrations for returning home vs. academic success [78:35]
• “I'm never gonna disrespect you, Mom. But show me the same level of respect when I ask you not to do something, not to do it.” – Blueface [39:16]
• “You can't see your face either unless you look in the mirror.” – Blueface [30:00]
• “If they see this report card, Shannon, they gonna think I’m a dumbass. I just need to go ahead and go home.” – Blueface [55:10]
• “I just wanted prison tatts. I wanted to say, I got it in prison type shit.” – Blueface [27:16]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tattoos & Identity, Sobriety Journey: [03:05–04:47]
• Incarceration Impact, Losing Friends: [05:34–09:00]
• Prison Life Details & Classes: [09:11–11:24], [85:50–87:09]
• Fatherhood & Family Dynamics: [14:48–17:31], [31:17–36:17]
• Mother’s Involvement in Relationships: [35:15–41:19]
• Football Aspirations & College: [48:19–60:00]
• Post-College Hustles & Illegal Activity: [64:38–73:36]
• Debate on Celebrating ‘Coming Home’: [77:55–80:41]
• Las Vegas Shooting, Conflict Resolution: [82:00–83:46]
• Restaurant Business & Entrepreneurship: [87:33–94:40]

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Closing

The episode provides an unfiltered look at Blueface’s life transitions, candidly discussing mistakes, growth, and the struggle to forge a path forward. He and Shannon Sharpe’s rapport brings out honest admissions, practical wisdom, and humor. For listeners, it’s both an entertaining and thought-provoking exploration of choices, environment, and redemption.

End of Part 1. For further conversation, listeners are directed to Part 2 of the interview.

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Transcript

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's TJ Maxx, of course. It's shaping up to be a very magical holiday. I got a lot of hood shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, say you got like a paper airplane or something?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What is that? What does the paper airplane signify?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Fly.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So are you done now?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, you ain't got nothing. What? What the hell you gonna.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wanna get my nose too, but I'm still like, trying to figure out what would be, you know, worth getting.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nothing, I'm thinking nothing.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

All my life been grinding all my.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Slice got to roll the dice that's why all my life I be grinding all my life all my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got to roll.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

A dice that's why all my life.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpham, also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay, stopping by for conversation today is a platinum selling rapper, a West coast recording artist, a polarizing media figure, a viral Internet sensation, a charismatic emcee with a devoted fan base. He's a household name. Here he is. Blueface.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What's up, bro?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You good? What an introduction. I love it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You love that?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I love that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Man. Let's get right into it. I saw the other day that you had stopped smoking and stopped drinking. What went into that decision?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's jail. I guess I kind of went a long time without it, so just stuck with it, you know, Working out now, right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You look healthy. I mean, when you walked in, I'm looking at him like, well, damn, he don't look all thin and emaciated. I mean, you look like. I can tell you've been working out, but you look healthy. You look happy.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely healthy. Definitely healthy. I'm in my prime right now.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You're in your prime?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm in my prime.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You're about to turn 28, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

29.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

29?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yup.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

29. That's not. That's a very short life. What do you think the 50 year old moving forward 20 plus years would look back into that? A 28, 29 year old blue face.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Mm. Well, you would have been better without that one.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That one what? That tattoo, that young lady. What would you have been better without?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Probably a few ladies, you know, better without them. A few ladies.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You say you stopped because when you went, you went to jail for a little while and you didn't have it in there and so you realized that you could live without it, you could do without it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Had you not had to go through that experience, would. That was something that you would have voluntarily quit on your own?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Definitely not.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nope. Do you think you drinking, smoking, do you think that led to some of the bad decisions that you made?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Mm, Yeah. Not smoking necessarily, but drinking. Yeah, maybe. Cause I'm a reactor, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I react, I don't really act too much. So a lot of the decision I make, I don't really.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You don't really think about it, you just reacting at the time.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So. But I think maybe the liquor maybe have made my reaction a little bit more detrimental than others.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. What do you think some of the worst decisions that you've made while, you know, maybe not being intoxicated, but you drinking to the point that you're not in, you're not thinking clearly. And clearly you probably would not have made the decision that you made had you not been drinking.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Probably gave a couple passes, you know, wouldn't have put my hands on a couple people.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's all really. I mean it's never really got me like took it over me or nothing, you know, and just might be a little gas, extra gas in the tank.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Do have you ever partaken in hard drugs?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, hell no. Just weed and liquor.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Just weed and liquor. Was it hard to give it up.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

In the beginning? Yeah, you know, go through withdrawals and stuff, feel like you need it, but as time goes on, you don't really need nothing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But how. Let me ask you this. When you still do what you do, you still go out and I don't know if you still go to clubs, but probably some of the homies that you hang around, they probably still drink. They probably still. How hard is it when you're around that environment? It's easy when you're not around that environment and other people are not doing it. But when you're in that situation and they're smoking, they're drinking and you like, damn. I remember the times I used to be able to do that. Is it hard?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No. That's when you know you truly are like over, you know, once you can be around it and not like be tempted or just want to do it just because you're around it, that's when you truly moved on.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I feel like when you, when you're incarcerated and I've talked to a lot of people, that's some people, not a lot, but a few people that's been incarcerated. I had wallow on here. And he was saying like that you really get an opportunity to really just think because that's really all you have is time. Literally just you and your thoughts, literally about, man, I'm not coming back here. And everybody, A lot of people say that blue face. And they end up right back there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Have you told yourself that I ain't being back, I'm not gonna put myself back in this situation?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Definitely 100 times. Every night, every day, every phone call, you know, people acting funny. I always told myself I'll never come back here unless it's life or death, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Wow. Did people switch up on you once you went in?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, definitely.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

People that you thought was cool, that was down with you when it was going good, it was right there. But all of a sudden it's not as good as it once was. Once was. And now you're here and they're like, they ain't answering the calls, they're not calling, they're not checking in.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep, that's what makes the difference right there. That's what wakes you up, you know, it makes you want to better yourself, you know, get in shape.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Work out. No, prison is pretty like up to date these days. They got classes and whatnot, you know, self help groups and college courses.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So that kept me out of the cell a lot, you know, in my mind off of just that, you know, you don't want to be thinking about that all day. Right. Just only reflecting when you're looking in the mirror.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No, because you're in there, you got, I don't know, 24 months, 36 months. However, how much time you had in there? And like you said, you have classes, but when you go in there, I mean, you probably, they probably shut it down. What, five, six o'?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Clock? Yeah, about eight o'. Clock.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Probably eight o'.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Clock. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And then basically you there, what time is wake up in the next morning? Five.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, nine. Place I was at, we had child like 8 o'. Clock.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

8Am to 8pm you might have been home.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Were you sure you weren't home? Damn. You go to bed at 8, wake up at 8.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Type stuff.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That ain't what I'm used to hearing about. Like they get you up early first thing in the morning, 5 o'.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Clock. And me neither. It was like, it was very freestyle there. Like the staff wasn't too like programmed.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

They weren't on your head or anything like that, huh?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Definitely. But I'm just saying the schedule, they was like on black time, put it that way. They was on black time for sure. Usually when I was in Delano and reception, you know, it's the same thing at the same time every day. This prison was like, we might get y' all at 8, we might get y' all at 9.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So you just sitting there, just waiting for the door like, oh, they're gonna open it eventually.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What was the food like? Did it make you miss home?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Definitely. Yeah. That's all I could think about was just a McDonald's home cooked meal. Anything really but slaughter. Rice and beans.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn. So what's a typical breakfast? You wake up normal day. What's a typical breakfast consist of?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So when I go to chow, there'll probably be some oatmeal on a tray, a banana, some a piece of bread and a piece of chicken. Like a chicken puck Patty type thing. About this big.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You can't get seconds.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nope, they watching too.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hello. So you get a piece of bread, maybe some oatmeal, a banana and a chicken patty. Water. To drink milk. To drink milk.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Milk.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And that's it?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So a grown ass. So okay, that's at 8 o'. Clock. When is lunch?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

They give you lunch right there too. So they give you how long you.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Get breakfast and lunch together.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So you only get two hot meals. And then lunch is like a cold like sandwich bag meal. So when you go to get the breakfast, they're gonna give you a bag.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

With, with your sandwich in there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, with a peanut butter and jelly in there and some peanuts and an orange probably.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, it's pretty. They give you just enough, I guess, right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, but if you got stuff on the books, you can go to commissary and you can stack up, get stuff like that.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, there's some people that don't even go to chow. They all off the commissary. Like they don't even. I was going, shit, right. I was just thinking, I ain't too bougie. I'm eating everything on this tray, man. And your tray. All right, you don't want it, Shoot it over here, right? But yeah, everybody was like, oh, I'm not eating this.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

All right, but you can have a hot plate. Do some people have. Some guys have hot plates in their room and I see them. Cause I see they be cooking stuff and this is what you make. And they make all kind of stuff.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, no, they can make their own breakfast. You know, I just don't cook, so it's like, I need that meal that's gonna add up at the end of the day. Right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What was happening? What was going on?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It was a moment. I had a moment just because it was like something maybe that I wanted to do, I did with my dad type thing. I think my dad took me to a game, right? So it was just cool to. Plus, I never sat on the floor before, so just doing that, you feel me, was just. Oh, shit. So having him there just made me even more vulnerable. And he's a good dude, so he.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

He makes me soft a little.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did. But the Internet didn't understand that moment, did they? No, they thought it was something more sinister, something actually going on that made you cry.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. You know how they do.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But nah, it was just the moment, man. They got fireworks and shit going off inside the stadium. I'm like, damn, this is cool. I ain't never been this close, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. You're the father of three. What type of father are you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I am a fun dad. You know, I just come in and make it, have a good time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No discipline.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's hard for me. It's hard for me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Why is it hard?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I don't know, I just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Cause, you know, they're not gonna be kids forever now. You know, kids grow up to be, you know, young adults and then adults.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. I feel like it'll get easier for me once they grow up a little bit and I can.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

It's gonna be too far gone. Blueface.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, no, no. They. Mom is doing it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Okay. They doing the discipline part. I just come in and, you know, mommy. Mommy was being mean to me today. Oh, yeah, don't be mean. That's me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But yeah, like, once they get older, I'll start being more hands on with the discipline, but they just too cute right now.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How different are you as a father as opposed to your upbringing?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Mm, I don't think I'm much different. It's crazy, though. I feel like I'm kinda like my dad in a way. Like, a lot of the stuff he did, I just somehow did. Like, he had a Mexican baby mama and a black baby mama. I got a Mexican baby mama and a black baby mama. I don't know how.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You don't know how that happened.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It just repeated itself. So I see a lot. Like, it's like deja vu.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. What type of example are you trying to set for your kids? Because, you know, a lot of what you do is gonna be played out over the Internet. And although they might not be old enough to understand now, eventually they will come of age and they'll understand what transpired with their father. So what example are you trying to set moving forward? Because you can't go back and erase what's already happened.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. So my example is just like, you know, provider, you know, Superman type. Santa Claus, you know, that's me. I'm not really going for. How can I say it? I just want them to have what they need, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm not really too focused on the later part. Cause I know later, once they get older, just like I did, it'll start to make sense. We can't really help them understand something that they'll never understand.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How old are the kids now?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

My youngest is 2, 3, and 8. So not old enough.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Not old enough. You got into trouble. You had a lady twerking on your daughter's bed. Do you regret anything that you've done? Let's say, obviously you train, you know, you stop drinking, you stop smoking, and you're trying to live a different life than what you lived in the past. Do you regret anything that you've done in the past?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, not at all. Cause like I said, I'm a reactor, so a lot of my actions is mirrored, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Whatever you decide to turn into right now, I'm just gonna mirror it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you on what you. Whatever time they on, that's what you on.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. If you get that close, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm not. I'm not out to hurt anybody. I'm not out to get anybody. I'm living too good. I'm having my way too much to. To be mad or sad, you know, so. But real life is real life, you know, what's in front of me will ultimately supersede social media.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

What I think late at night in my bed, you know, I've seen a couple times, you. You had your reaction.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, man, I was. I was. No, And I wasn't even drinking.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's what I'm saying. You know that I feel like they just like to blame that. So. Yeah, you exclude it now, what you gonna blame?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, deep down, that's probably who we are, huh?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Literally. Yeah. And the only way we can fix that is for. To expose it, identify, see what it is, realize it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And then we correct it. We can't just correct something that we don't know is there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You said if your daughter didn't like your tattoos, you'd get them removed.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I don't know. Face. You can get all those removed, bro.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But. Yeah, but I know she loves it. She loves me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So would you be okay when she becomes of age, to date somebody with as many tattoos as somebody, if she found a person that's identical to who you are, what you are, how you behave? You okay with that with your daughter?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I get asked this question all the time, and I always say yes just because I know myself, you know? So the ladies that I deal with, I have their best interest. I'm not dealing with them to bring them down or, you know, social media is what it is. But in real life, I got the best intentions for these females, like, you know, whether it's whatever they need, babysitter, rent, you know, not even just that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

They need you there sometimes emotionally, spiritually.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I would hope my daughter could find somebody that could at least do that. You know, nobody's perfect. Those at least those qualities would be somebody decent enough that can convert into whatever we need them to be. You know, my mom actually asked me a question. She said, like, so if your daughter was with a crackhead, you wouldn't try to get her away from him?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You say your mom asked you that question? Yeah. Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And my answer is no, I would try to get him off crack.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Because I'm not gonna risk me and my daughter's relationship for this person. If she loves this person, we all know how that's gonna go, right? Interesting. I'm not gonna drive her away. I'm gonna bring them closer.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. You gonna try to get him help? Because clearly that's who she wanted to be with. And so I don't wanna upset her by trying to remove her. Maybe I get him help and they'll become even better.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

There you go. That's my theology on it. Okay? But some people will be like, no, we need to go kill him or get him away or threaten them. And when you do that, you just gonna push. She just gonna. Right now she might fuck around and try to crack. Cause they now they out there vulnerable, homeless, she feeling like nobody. And that's all she got is this guy. So.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And you're pro. It seems like you're looking at it. Well, you don't know what drove him to try crack in the first place. Maybe it was something more than on the surface level than what we see.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. Life is like, all about understanding. Now it is. It's a numbers game. And once the numbers go up, you have to update with it. You know, you don't have to be with it, but you don't have to be against it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. How old were you when you started getting tatted?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

My first Tattoo, probably like 16.

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know what?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I can see you as Mr. Darcy. You got a little call in Firth.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

Okay, that's really sweet, I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett here. Listen to Earsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I was like a junior in high school.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I had a whole half sleeve. I'm at school playing football. They like, how old is he right there? I don't know about him.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, but I was just, you know, just ahead of the time, I guess.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So when you. Did your mom agree to it or you just came home with a tattoo?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, no, she didn't agree to it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you just came home with a tattoo?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I just came home wearing shirts every day.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you had a long sleeve. She didn't know you had gotten tattooed at first time?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not at all.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So when she found out, she's like, what is this?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, typical mom shit. Boy. When did you get that? Where'd you get who did it?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, Mom, I had this thing a long time.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

This old thing. Exactly. Right.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And so I hear tattoos are addictive. Is that true?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, they're very influential. I feel like everybody's influenced by seeing somebody with a lot of tattoos. But me as a kid, I already knew I was gonna be one tattooed up like, I'm like this tall when I get old.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

When you get old enough to get.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I have tattoos everywhere.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, so it was already kind of like something that was inside of me. But in today's time, I noticed some people come around me, and then they started getting more tattoos. So. So 6, 7 type thing, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You got tatted in jail. Isn't that illegal? You're not supposed to be able to do that.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Yeah. I gotta write up for it, too. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So they gave you more time, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Extra 30 days?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. How do you know? You been in jail?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hell, no.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I got a 115 for the tattoo, and I got extra time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn. But hold on. How did you know? I mean. I mean, can't you get, like, hepatitis and stuff in there with unsanitary. Cause it's not like. That's like a tattoo parlor and everything is sanitary.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. No, not at all. Not at all. They literally tattooing you with a paper clip and a CD motor attached to a.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Come on, come on, now. You wanted a tattoo that bad?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

It's amazing you wanted a tattoo that bad that you couldn't wait till you got out and got like, oh, you just wanted a prison tatt.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I just wanted prison tatts. I wanted to say, I got it in prison type shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, you could have got it outside and said, I got it in prison. Ain't nobody gonna know.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I don't know. So I was kind of rushing. I'm like, man, oh, shit. I got, like, how much time I got? Oh, shit. I need more. Come on, come on, come on. I don't know. I didn't want to get out and have to, like. I don't know. It just wouldn't hit the same to me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. Does it hurt? Did it hurt the same as a normal tattoo? Like, if you go to a tattoo parlor here in la, as opposed to. Is anything, does it feel different? They ain't got no numbing cream, clearly.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah. No numbing cream? Nah. It's about the same. It's about the same. You know, they sticking a needle in your skin and.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And you trusted that?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I had a little SA partner, Southsider, doing that. I trust the Mexicans to tap me. I ain't really get to them. No blacks to tap me. None of the homies or nothing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So when did the facial tattoos start?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I already had, like, the blue face right here and right here with the strip. Right here.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. You had blue face with the 100.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I already had probably, like, five face tattoos when I went in there, you know, so it wasn't like I just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hold up. So you got some face tattoos in there?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that was. All I got, was face tattoos in there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I. I was thinking you like an arm or something, a leg.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

All of this was in there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Johnny. Ysl. You got the MLB logo?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Y. I think. No.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Johnny Journey.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Journey, yes. My daughter Jord.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Got the scent Lee with the C. No big scent Lees. And all that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I don't know what. That big?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. What else I got? I got a lot of hood shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, you say you got like a paper airplane or something?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What is that? What does the paper Airplane signify fly. You know you could be fly without getting tatty.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So are you done now?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, you ain't got nothing. What the hell you gonna.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wanna get my nose too, but I'm still like trying to figure out what would be, you know, worth getting.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nothing. I'm thinking nothing. So are your legs tatted?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, no legs.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you got nothing on your legs.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I don't want no damn thigh tattoos.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, hell, I'm thinking why you wanna thigh tattoo? Seems more real and practical than a face tattoo. So once you get the. You gonna be done?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, probably. My back. I don't got no back tattoos, but I can't see my back, so you feel me?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You can't see your face either unless you look in the mirror.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. When I'm saying my back, I can't never see my back. You feel me? So I feel like that's kind of pointless. I'm getting my tattoos for me. I'm not getting them for people to look at them. And you know, so the back is like.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, you know, Blueface, when you get a tattoo and you put it on your face, you know people gonna see that before you do?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, they not. Cause I put it on my face.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I know you did, but you can't see it unless you cross eye. Yeah, I see it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Your childhood, walk us through it. What type of childhood did Blueface have?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Um, regular. So I went to. I started playing football at Baldwin Hills, actually. Played with Biggie Small Son.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No. Did you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, ball in Hills Bruins. Then I went to Crenshaw. I mean, not Crenshaw, Worcester Crest elementary.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Then I went to Marvin Elementary. Then I went to John Burroughs. And then my brother, I had an older brother who was like doing the street shit at a very young age. And he caught some time when he was like 16, 17. So my mom felt like she had to move us out the hood. So she just started like a cock chasing, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know what I mean? Trying to find rich men to. But she found one and she moved us out to the Valley.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And so we would just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You didn't like it out there, did you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Uh, not at first. You know, at first I was a little too aggressive, but no. Got my ass kicked one time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, I be.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I got used to it. I like the girls out there, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Valley Girls is cool.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Outside of street activities, is there any fond memories that you have of your childhood?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Fun like that?

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, did you have friends growing Up. Did y' all ride bikes?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I like playing football.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You like playing football?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Pop Warner?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Pop Warner was like a real big part of my childhood. I used to go six months with my mom and then Pop Warner, like football season, I go six months with my dad.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And just go back and forth. So throughout the year, I'm going back and forth from wherever my mom is at, wherever my dad is at. So I lived a lot of places, so I picked up a lot of adaptive habits where I could just, you know, meet new people, be social.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did you have to be two different kids or your mom? You had to be a certain way. Your dad. Was your dad more strict? Was your mom more strict? How would.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, my mom was a little bit more loose, you know, and my dad was a little bit more like, structured and type stuff, made me stay in the house and stuff, go to work with him and write standards and shit if I didn't do right shit. So I like my mom better, of course, you know, Right. More free flowing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But, I mean, you didn't paint a very flattering picture of your mom to like her more. You said she was, you know, chasing after men, trying to get you, you know, get you out of that environment. What is your relationship like with your mom?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I mean, that was her best way of doing what's best for us, you know, so it wasn't like a. I didn't mean to say it as if it was like a bad thing. That's just what she had to do to get us in a better environment, because she seen the environment we was in.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, took her other son. So I appreciate her for it. She wasn't a bad mom.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She made me lunch, breakfast, took me to school, you know, made sure I was at practice and stuff. She did exactly what she was supposed to do.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But did you see your mom have multiple men, like, in and out of the house? Did that affect you? Did they have. What type of relationship did you have with some of the men that she brought around?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Uh, yeah, it affected me just a little bit, you know, just. Just based on, like, when I. I'd say it affected me now that I'm older. It didn't affect me as a kid, but then when I got older, I'm like, oh, okay, that's what you was doing. Like, you know, I thought that was your friend, Mom. I thought that was your friend mommy. I ain't know y' all was fucking. That's all, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So when I was a kid, you know, I'm just Thinking that, oh, that's mommy's friend.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's mom's friend.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, now that I'm older, I'm like, oh, yeah, mom, you was okay.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So how were the men? Did they try to discipline you? Were they tough with you? Were you like. You don't tell me what to do. You're not my dad. I don't have to listen to you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, my mom kind of ran a strict program. She didn't let them ever feel like they could talk to us or discipline us. So she did a good job on that. She didn't, like, let them discipline us.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She'll get up on, like, on they bumper before they don't talk to him like that, you know, type stuff.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did your mom ever have to tell your dad, well, you know, hey, he's been acting up. You need to talk to him.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You need to check him, probably. Hell yeah, for sure. And vice versa.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You tweeted. You said you need your mom to be a mother, not a networker, not a baddie. Have you reconciled? Do you think your mom is too invested in your relationships?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Hell yeah. It messes up all of them, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Why do you say that?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Cause it's too soon. If I just meet a young lady and we just dating and hitting it off, she shouldn't meet my mom yet, you know, she shouldn't know my mom yet. Until I feel it's time for you to meet my mom.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But your mom interject.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

My mom was DMing him.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hey, Drew, come on now.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Let me get your number. Let me. And then she just sabotages the relationship. Every single one. She start posting them, you know? Cause they start caring. They care about what she thinks she's a mom. So it's like she just overwhelms the honeymoon phase.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did you have a conversation with your mom? Says, mom, I'm just. Now I'm just like, I just met this person. I wanna get to know them on a different level. This might be someone I can see myself with being long term. And by you coming in, doing what you're doing, you're undermining the relationship. You don't even give us an opportunity to get to really know each other. You've already made this thing public and yada, yada, yada.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And every a hundred times I'm trying to tell her. That's what I mean when I tell her I don't need her to be a baddie. Like, if you see my girl, you should have a little respect for me to at least not swing on her right you feel me? Like, she's swinging on him and shit. Like, out of all the females in this establishment, like, in this club. You swinging on my girl?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What did you. Did your mom. Did your mom ever tell you why she swung on her?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, but it was. It wasn't true, you know, it wasn't with the video. It was on video, so. You know what she said at first? She said she pulled my whole wig off trying to get intersection and what do not.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But if that's your girl, she should be allowed in the section, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. That's why I'm telling my mom, like, okay, once you see it's her, you should address it. Hey, can you not. Excuse me? You know, I'm just swing on her. I feel like she only swung on her because she knew she was with me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right, well, that was gonna probably undermine the relationship. Blueface, come on. To be honest with you, I know.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I done seen this a hundred times. I was like, mom, why are you trying to get them on your show and trying to just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, then why you? Why you. How did your mom find out that? Why you go bring your girl or the person that you're seeing? Maybe it's not your girl. Maybe the person that you're interested in. Why are you bringing them around your mom when you know she's gonna have exhibit this type of behavior?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Well, it was just my homecoming party, so.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It was my day anyway, you know, I'm not just bringing him over her house or in her presence, but she's in the club. What can I do? She didn't even come with me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She met me there with her friends, so it's like, you know, regular link up. And mom's just tripping. She wanted me to ask for my bike back. You know, I wouldn't trip.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So all that being said, you feel your mom is kind of undermining a few of your relationships and you want her to butt out?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I don't do that to her relationships.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's mommy's friend, right? I ain't all up in there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You cool with that?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

What you doing with my mom in there? You know, what y' all doing in that room? I said, man, you feel me? I don't think she would like that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No, she wouldn't.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

If I was all in her boyfriend or her husband. Feel me? Texting him. Hey, what you doing with my mom over there?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's what. Your mom be texting that to the young ladies, man.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She be trying to set up meetings with him.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

About what?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's What I'm saying. That's weird, right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And it's not just the ones that I'm serious with. Every single one. I could post one tonight, she gonna be DMing him tomorrow. So you talking to my son, like, posting him and stuff, you know, it's just like. It's very strange, right? Very, very strange. And then she likes to, like, play them against each other.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But, you know, your mom's on a reality show, isn't she?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. So she's kind of like.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So that's. What's that drama. That sells, I guess. But she's doing it at the expense of her own son.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And I don't know if she noticed this, but she's causing conflict because I see it bothers you because you ask her not to do it, and she continuously doing it. Cause it's. You look at it as being disrespectful. You are my mom. I can only say so much because I'm never gonna disrespect you, Mom. But show me the same level of respect when I ask you not to do something, not to do it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's all I ask, man. I ain't asking her to do no more, no less. Just let me introduce you to them, right? Don't introduce yourself to them. Cause they're not even that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

We don't even know it might not even go no more than this day.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And now you gonna use this one for the next one. And now you just. Just being messy, you know? Oh, he was just with. She does that. She be doing that. Oh, she bombs you doing way too much sabotaging gang. She'll be. I'll be with a young lady, you know, you not just one. You just one of them. You talking crazy to him. Like, damn, why are you talking crazy?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hold on.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, it's bad, brother. It's like, it gives the wrong vibes to me because, like, I deal with a lot of women, so that her body language, the signs that she does it just makes me think, like, she.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Intentionally tried to do that. Huh.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It just gives me the wrong idea of, like, what women do when they're into. When they're into somebody, you know? Right. Like, obviously, this woman likes me. And this woman's right here. This woman's gonna sabotage what's right here because she likes me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So, you know, that's the weird part.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Do your mom think any woman female that you. Woman female that you've been involved with, do she think they're good enough for you? Because that has to be underlining after.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

We break up and they start following her. Her lead.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Then she'll, oh, oh, this was the.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Perfect one for you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, but when I'm with them, she's yelling at doing the same shit, yelling at him, screaming at them, throwing shit on them. And then, all right, we break up six months later. Now she, her manager and she. They cool. And that's her. That's her little home girl and all the stuff. So it's like. No.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Have y' all thought about going to counseling together?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She's too old.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Who?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

My mom.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Your mom ain't too old for counseling, for therapy.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yes. I feel like some people just be stuck in their ways, you know, Especially older people. Like, you've been living a certain way for 50 years plus.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's not gonna be too much that can get you to change other than life.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But doesn't she see that it's hurting you, that is bothering you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, she doesn't care. She doesn't care. I tell her all the time, how.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Does that make you feel when you tell her, mom, please stop.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, I didn't get to choose her, so it was something I just gotta learn how to live with, learn how to accept her for her, and vice versa, you know, I might not be as respectful or as she would like me to be, and she just has to learn how to love me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What type of relationship did you have with your father? Coming up.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Fun dad, you know, kind of like how I am. Like, he didn't. He never hit me or what? Me or nothing. He just disciplined me. Like, once I got old enough, he used to take me to work with him and make me be at work writing standards all day, like, if I didn't do the right stuff, you know? So I appreciated his way of doing it, you know, my mom with me. So it was different, Right? Got a little bit of both. And his way was a little bit more logical, you know, a little bit more stuck. Longer, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What's the relationship now?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

We do. He lives with me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, he lives with you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah, that's my dog. He lives with me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Cause he respects me, you know? Like, my mom doesn't respect me as an adult.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

She still see you as a little baby, huh?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. That's how she carries it, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. Do you have your father tried to talk to her about it. It's like, you know, this boy grown, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Man, the whole America has tried to talk to her. Shani, you want to talk to her?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

If she ain't listening to you, she ain't listening to your dad.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She might listen to you. She might listen to Shani. Man, y' all might have an older thing where you can break it down to her in an older way. Cause I guess, I don't know, I don't know how she's not getting it. I'm not asking for much.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Not asking for much. Do you want to get married?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, eventually. Actually, prison's kind of taught me that it's a little bit more valuable to have a wife.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. When you were in, did people come? Did any of the ladies that you were dealing with before you went in, did they come visit you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, a few of them. Some of them even surprised me, really.

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[Podcast Host / Announcer]

Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. The Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Is the best place to be at Starbucks?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Even let me know they was coming. They just, hey, you got a visit today. Yeah, who the fuck?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Don't you have to put them down on the books or you just like in the county?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

When I was in the county, yeah, that's when I was getting visits. So you don't gotta put them down. They could just show up on an appointment, but if you put up, yeah, you gotta send them a visiting form. But they wasn't even approving my visiting form, so the prison kind of just had it out for me, so I didn't get no visits in prison.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What you mean they didn't approve the form? So what were you doing? Getting face tattoos? That's probably what turned you down.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, no, I was kind of viral, so they probably was just, you know, trying to protect theyself. Like we don't want him to visit a room.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You said that you really love football coming up, you're a pretty good quarterback. Led the team to the league title through for 1200 yards, 17 touchdowns, 21 touchdowns in 2014.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I even went D2HBCU.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You went to Fayetteville State?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Why'd you. I mean, you seem to like. You like sports. You seem like you were good at football. What happened? Why'd you. Was it a culture shock? Because North Carolina's a big difference than la?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That and it just became too business like, you know, first it was fun, you know, I was into, you know, the coaches actually cared about you a little bit. Then when you get to college, you just a number. Yeah, just something on the board, you know, as soon as it ain't your time or you're not in the best shape, it just cross you off the board and make one up. Yeah. Like, you know, so that's cool, you know, that's fine. That's just not how I.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's kinda how life work. You know that, right? If you don't do the job, they gonna hire somebody else to do it for sure.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Unless you the hire. Yeah, unless you the boss.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you like, you wanna be the boss?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that's why I play quarterback. I'm calling the shots, you feel me? So I had it in me. But no, but originally I was supposed to redshirt my freshman year, right? Cause I was skinny, you know, Wanted to get my size right in my mind. Right. They already had a red shirt senior. He was 26, 25 years old. Damn, I'm 18, I'm obviously not gonna start over him. So cool. I'm perfectly fine with that. Yeah, I'm showing, I'm dressing out on the sideline. I'm not playing. He goes down one game. Uh. Oh, and they just. Yeah, I was the next best. They had a second string who came from a junior college. He was a junior. But I was just nice, man. Honestly, it was.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, you was nice?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, like in practice, you know, we throwing it in the buckets. I'm hitting the bucket. Oh, you dropping it in the bucket, man. That's why they threw Me out there, you know, I know it probably. I probably couldn't see at the time that they were just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Probably they saw something you didn't see.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

In your cell testing me out, you know, type thing, but so, boom, they put me in the game versus West Georgia. I did decent, you know, I was a true freshman. You know, I threw two touchdowns, probably 170 yards. I went like 13 for 21. Next week, I'm out.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, the guy came.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Hold on. He came back?

[Commercial Narrator / Advertiser]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, you thought you was gonna get the job? You thought you was gonna keep the job? You a substitute? The substitute teacher don't get to keep the job for the whole year.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not if we already agreed that I'm a red shirt.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But that didn't mess up your red shirt, did it?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Oh.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Cause you played more of the snaps. You played.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I played the whole game on tv. So they just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So they basically messed up your red shirt and now you say, well, you messed up my red shirt. At least let me go ahead and finish it out.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wasn't even second string, so they.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Moved so you was third string. The starter gets hurt. They put. They say, hey, go in. You go in. 13 to 21, 172 touchdowns. The next week, he comes back, you back to third string.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Made no fucking sense to me now. It just was like, okay.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Had they left you in, you think you would have stayed?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, hell yeah. Of course I wouldn't have left playing. I wasn't even second string, bro.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So, okay, so now they put him back in there and put you to second string.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's even better.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay. It was the mere fact that you started. They put you in over the second string guy, but when the guy gets back healthy, you go back to third string. You thought you had shown enough that if I'm not gonna start, I should at least be second string.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

At least. Although the agreement was never for me to play this year. Cause I wanted to. I wanna go.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You wanted red shirt. You wanna get a little more size.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Four years of me playing every game.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's the only way you're gonna make it. Yeah, I don't wanna rely on my junior year, senior year, season to get to the league. Plus, I'm already D2, so I need to get some film so I can get, you know. I know the game.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, I was D2. I went to HBCU. We used to play some. We used to play Fayetteville State.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Oh, yeah, which one you went to?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I went to Savannah State.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Oh, shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

We used to beat the breaks out there on two, though.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Then they wasn't even that good, you know, they wasn't like a top tier D2 team. So I was like, man, I'm trying to get in here, right? Get a season or two in, man. Go D1, AA or D1, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. Did you get homesick? Because like I said, Fayetteville, North Carolina, military, and there's not a whole lot going on.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, No, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wasn't okay. You know, for a quarterback, it was a little, you know, slacky a little bit. I wasn't as the best leader, you know. As far as the time zone, this is what happened. It was a time zone. It's three hours ahead.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Three hours. Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So in the beginning, I was showing up late, you know, to the quarterback meetings, to the practice.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Now, see, that's the part that you conveniently left out while your ass was purging.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Look, I'm already red shirted.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Just because you red shirted, that doesn't mean you don't. You get to come on your own time.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But I was. I couldn't adjust to the time difference.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What you mean you couldn't?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I went straight from California to North Carolina to 4:45 practice a.m. i'm not going to sleep till damn near three in the morning. Because I'm thinking it's 12 or. I'm not going to sleep Till two in the morning. Cause it feels like it's 11.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, you young back then, your body adjusts real quick.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not in days. This is. I went straight from high school to college.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, but you set an alarm.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I tried. I tried all of that. So basically, boom, you lay one time, you gotta run on a day you guys don't have practice, you lay two times, your group has to run, your position, group has to run. Yeah, you lay three times, the whole offense gotta run, you lay four times, the defense gotta run, you lay five times, the whole team is out there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, they put a full metal jacket on you like they did Powell. They beat your ass, bro.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Tell me why I got the whole team out there and I'm late to the damn rim.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hello.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

They were so disappointed in me. I was disappointed in myself that day. Just because I'm like, yeah, we had to be.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, we had to do something bad.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Everybody on the field, and I'm running up late like, I'm sorry. I tried to make it. They like, man, you know, they couldn't even yell at me at this point. They was just man, like, man, when.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You can't go to sleep.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

They should have tore your ass up. Bang on your life.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. This was in the beginning, though. This is like before the season start. This is like, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, I know.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Spring ball, like, when we. Not spring, but, like, you know, we scrimmaging type shit. So training camp, I adjusted as fast as I could, so when the season started, I was more on time and more. Which is why they probably threw me in, you know, it wasn't just.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So, what was it like getting up before you go to class?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wasn't even going to class, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So how long. How long did you have?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's another reason I left, too.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes. Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, she started adding up.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause I don't know how you thought you was gonna stay in school, man.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

If they see this report card, Shannon, they gonna think I'm a dumbass. I just need to go ahead and go home. They done burnt my ear, bro.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you had the grade to get into school. You not a dummy.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Nah, it's just college.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You just don't apply yourself.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, it's just college. They don't care about you, bro. They're not gonna tell you. There's no attendance list if you don't show up.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No, they get you on scholarship. They gonna get paid regardless.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, they don't give a. For sure if they don't give a. I damn sure don't give a. I'm a freshman.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But that's how you showed the football team.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm living on campus, you know, So I really came for football. I wasn't the smartest kid. I literally had a 2.8. I just made the criteria. 2.8, 1400 SAT. All right. You barely made it, like, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, that's a good. That's a good 14.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's what I'm saying. That's the only reason I made it with. Actually. It was probably like a 2.3.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Like, my GPA and my SAT score was just like.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You talking about the SAT or the ACT?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

SAT.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I got like, a 1340, bro.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, back then, the perfect score was 1600.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I know. That's how I got in.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So. Yeah, so you more than, bro, you made like 600. You made like 700, 800. More better than I did.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You do realize that, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I cheated, though.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, Lord, Blueface, you could have kept that one. You had me. We were going so good. Just say, man, how you cheated.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I cheated you up there and let you think you know I cheated. I'm in there like this.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You cheated off somebody's paper? Off just somebody's test, man.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I know how to cheat, man. So basically, man, I look at what section he on, look at what section he on, what section she on. And I'm.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And you go into that section. Yeah. Cause you don't. Cause, you know, 2.3 and 1340, they don't coincide.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So they got the boards up and everything. I'm a cold cheater, though. I cheat my whole life, all through high school. You know, I ain't doing the homework as soon as I get to school. Hey, let me see your homework.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So how you think he was gonna make it in football? Who you gonna cheat on in football?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I wasn't. Well, football, I had a little passion for, you know, so I didn't mind, you know, studying and getting the plays and watching film and stuff. I like watching myself, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But as far as the school part, I was, you know, that was in my alley.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You do realize, like, when you watch film, most of it is watching other team defense. It's not you. You watching yourself.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that's true, too. But, you know, in the meetings, it's more like practice. You know, they watch a lot of practice.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, you watch your practice, what you did and your steps. Make sure he was right where you should have gone with the ball. Take the down flat or take the, you know, out ball come back.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Team footage is only when the season started and we facing that opponent.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But majority of the time, you know, they watching practice all day.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You had a good arm. How far you throw? About 60, 70?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that was my thing. I had a good deep ball.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Deep ball, huh?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that was like what got.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, if I had to compare you to somebody, what, you Patrick Mahomes, you Josh Allen, you Lamar Jackson? Who you a combination of?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, I wasn't that fast. Well, I was fast in high school. When I got to college, I wasn't that fast.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, damn, how you slowed down that quick?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

They got faster. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you were fast? They were just faster.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

The D linemen, you know, they like your size, but they running as fast as me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, in high school, they wasn't running as fast as me. They was a little slower. So they catching me. I'm like, damn, I thought I was fast, but this nigga got me, you know? So, yeah, I wasn't as fast as I thought. I was more like a. Probably like a Derrick Henry, you know, More like I'm looking to Throw.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How do you. Derrick Henry. Running back. Derrick Henry don't throw no passes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, not Derrick Henry for the Eagles.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, Jalen hurts.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Jalen hurts. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, you ball like a. Jalen hurts, huh?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I'm more like pass first. Like, oh, run is like. I can do it, but I'm gonna be looking around and then. All right, I'm gonna run.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, yeah. Were you heartbroken that that football ended?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I was. Cause I came back and I tried to do junior college.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Where you go to Samo?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Tried to go to Juco. No, I tried Valley, Pierce and coc.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And it's even more political there. Like, you know, it's hard to start in those two years when they got people that's coming down from D1 School.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I got people that's coming from boarding schools. You know, right there, it's a little bit more like. It's worse than college, like. Cause you gotta be more hungry. And college, it's like, all right, they feed you a little, right? And juco, they ain't feeding you.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, no, Juco. Juco is a step below.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, you gotta go get it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I was trying to go get it, but, you know, then I had.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you was at a place that you could have got it, but you didn't want it there. And then when you realized that you had to go get it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, it was a revolving door. You know, if I could do it different, I would. You know, I would have stayed a little bit longer. But that's ultimately what pushed me to the streets. Cause then it was like, I don't got nothing else going. I'm just gonna be the best street dude.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you drop out of college? Did you tell your mom, you tell your dad that you're dropping out or you just came back home?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I told them. You know, they try to convince me to stay, but I was already.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Your mind was already made up that you coming back home?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, once they put me back on the bench, yeah, I was going home.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you finished out that season.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, hold on.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

When they put you back on the bench, you quit.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Then I'm outta here. I was like, I'm like Antonio Brown out there.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You pieced him out.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hold on. You done made us run. You done made the offense run, you done made the defense run. And you mean to tell me we're not even done with the season and you pieced us out?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

This should have brought you back.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. I even tried to go back, but I think the coaches got fired. That season. Cause it didn't go that well, so the new staff was probably had their own.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you came back home, you lived with your mom, you lived with your dad?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

My mom had already moved with her husband to Ohio and my dad was living, I think in Orange County. So I was just stuck in there by myself.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So where'd you live?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Wherever I could live, wherever I could sleep.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you. Hey, you found a homeboy couch or you found your car?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Abandoned apartments, car, baby mama's house.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that was cool though. That's what made me like, more like life. Okay, no time to grow up, get a job.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, Fayetteville state has some nice dorms. I was central heating and cooling.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Free food, barcades.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Trust me, I regretted it once. I ain't gonna lie. Once I got back, I'm like, damn, I ain't even missing shit. Shit, I should have stayed.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did you have a plan once you got. So you drop out of school? What was your plan once you got back to la? What were you gonna do? Were you gonna get a job?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So you know, the team was asking me, bro, what are you gonna do? Like, you know, they know I'm leaving. Coaches trying to get them to get me. I'm like, no, man, I'm out of here. What are you gonna do? I was telling them some dumb ass shit. I'm like, man, I'm gonna go work at ladies foot Locker, crack all the.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hold on.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Sell his shoes.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You ain't tried to sell no shoes. You just tried to crack.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, you know, ladies foot, Woman's foot Locker. You feel me? That sound like a good job to me. Talk to ladies all day, feel me? What size you wear, baby? Okay, get your number. We gonna send you the shoes.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You gonna send them the shoes?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah. And then I was gonna try juco. So I was like, man, I'm gonna go get a job and play juco, right? And I tried. And then I crashed my car. And then all that shit went over with.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So now you ain't got no car, you ain't working that lady's foot locker. And juco ain't happening.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, so now what? So I start. Well, this one, I start living at my grandma house for a second, but she didn't want me to have no company. Nah, man, you know them old man, I'm paying 300amonth.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I don't care if you paying 3,000amonth. You not finna bring no grandma. You not finna do that.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So. Exactly. So I'm like, damn, Granny, like, all right, I can't do this, you know, like, so I just. That's when I just started road running, you know, staying with the homies, staying in the hood, staying couch or my car broken a couple of bandages.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But I don't even know why you would even want to have a lady laying up in your house with your grandma right in the room down the hall.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm renting the room.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's your grandma.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So what? Granny probably in there with.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, no, Granny ain't doing that, man, stop this.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So Granny can have company, but I can.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes, that Grady. Yes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But I'm paying.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Me and my brother bought my grandma a house. We didn't even come in after midnight. I never had a woman at the house.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No, I think that's a sign of respect.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, not when you're adults. It's respect for her to respect you as an adult.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

If you married, they ain't gonna have you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not finna shack, but they been shacking. How can you. How can you try to, like, feel me? I've been knowing Granny a long time, Shannon. You can't do that. You can't do that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So she living a double life. She telling you what you can't do when she doing it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Can't do that, Shannon. This don't work.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, my goodness, man. Okay, you lay with the homies. You bunking with the homies. You get a job?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I got a job at. So I didn't get the ladies footlocker job.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No surprise there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I didn't get the job.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But I got hired at Office Depot.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Pretty cool.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How many desks and chairs do you give away?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I was more like unboxing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, they bring the little shipments in, box them up, put them on the shelf and stuff. I worked behind the register a little bit. You know, I wasn't the best employee, man. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. So what I would do is somebody would buy something.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I know what you did. Go ahead.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I reprint the receipt, steal what they bought, go take it to the next Office Depot, return it and get the cash. So I was making like 300 a day doing that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you always been by the Hustle type shit.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Type shit. But one day they caught me, man.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Ah, you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

They caught me, man. You know how life is, man. You don't get caught. You keep doing what you doing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know why you have to do that every day? Why you couldn't do it? Like, you know what I'm gonna do this Thing once a week, $300. That's a lot of money back then. $300 a week, that's $1,200 a month. That's a nice little come up.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, it was.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You trying to make $300 a day.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You've been trying to make $1,500 a week. You try to make $6,000 a year.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah. So one day they called me, man. A lady left her damn card in the machine. It's crazy. I took it out, I walked out to give it to her, seen what car she got in. I was like, you know what you have? I went straight to Target. Got a $200 gift card, you know what I mean? She came back and told him.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

See, see, that. See, that's the convenient part you left out. See, you didn't get caught reprinting the receipts. You got caught with credit card.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, that's Credit card moving too fast, though. That's when you know when you. Yeah, I know how life works, man. I did a lot of stuff.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And I seen you had a nice little. You see you had a nice little giggy.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I. Greedy. Got greedy. I know you ain't gotta tell me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So obviously they fired you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, fired me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You lookin. They ain't putting no charges on you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I know they didn't have enough.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

They had enough. You had a credit card?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Uh. Cause I ran out, so it looked good shady. I took the card out, ran out to the lady, you feel me?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

She jumped in the car, drove off, and I was just like, oh, shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But when you got the gift card from Target.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I think that's how I got caught.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That is how you got caught. So they knew they could have put charges on you. That's credit card theft.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Shit. Not enough.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So they let you. So you got off with that. So they say, okay, you're fired. You can't. Don't work here anymore.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep, not fired.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So what's your next move? What's your next play?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Um, so at this time, I was staying at my baby mama's mama's house, okay? And she was a leasing agent. So she hooked me up, got me a little Porter job, which is funny because my last name is Porter.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So now I'm working full time, okay. 40 hours a week, nine to five.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. Got a nice little hustle.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

See?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

A nice little honest hustle ain't hurt nobody.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah, but.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

There's a but coming, I feel.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I told you I wasn't the best worker. You know, I cheated in high school. I cheated Office Depot, you know, cheating on my baby mama. Feel me?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So basically what I would do is I just when people move out, I go in there, take all the trash out and repaint. Boop boop boop. Or clean maintenance. You know, cleaning though like a janitor though not really the maintenance man.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So you feel me? Shannon, it's early man. I gotta be to work at 8, man. I gotta be up at 7, feel me? Okay, yeah, I'm in there. Sleep on the walkie talkie, man. Feel me.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Podcast Host / Announcer]

Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm supposed to be painting and throwing trash away. You feel me? I'm on the floor. Sleep on the walkie talkie. Hey, Porter. Yeah, I'm in here. You know, so it started taking me a little too long.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. So what should take you, you know, a couple of hours is taking you.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Two days, three days, you know, so they like, oh, man, you know, you taking too long.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So they let you go with that?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, they didn't let me go. I was cool. Then they switched managers. So now I got a new person that I can impress, right? Then one day it was somebody had like took a shit on the floor, like in the gym? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I was already kinda not really vibing with the new dude, so he told me to clean it up. I'm like, man, I ain't not cleaning that up, fool. And that's how I got fired. Okay. Two week me right there, I guess.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, actually.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I feel like I put a two week notice in or they gave me a two week notice and then they told me to clean up the shit.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I paid the ladder. They probably put that to the.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I think they fired me.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, yeah. And you, like, thought I was gonna.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Work two weeks and clean up some shit. I'm like, man, okay. You got me up.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay. That's the second job that you had since you been home. Okay, that one ends. Okay. Now what?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's it. I started selling weed and crack after that.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's when I started going to jail. Went to jail for the first time for sending weed. Yeah, I ain't even selling it. I just got pulled over with too much weed. This is when it was illegal at the time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I had a jar of weed, probably like, probably about the size of this bottle, right.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How'd they see it? So where were you smoking?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, I was in the trunk. But I had a janky ass car at the time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So they was already like, you know, get out the car. You know, searching the car and shit. And I was being an asshole at the time. This was my first run in with the law, so I wasn't even too hip to like, you know, they might fuck with you if you don't be a dick to them. Right. So I'm telling him to take me to jail.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And, you know, you got. You know you riding dirty.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. His ass took me straight to jail, too. I'll never do that again.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, probably that way.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm like, you gonna take me to jail? Come on, let's go. Like, all right.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Come on.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So now they impound your car? They got reason to search it now.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Now I'm in jail. I'm feeling dumb as hell. Like, what the. I just told this nigga to take me to jail.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Did they find the weed?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, yeah. That's why he took me to jail, to search the car. But it was in the trunk.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So once I started popping it, like, man, he start checking or, you know, now he in the trunk. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

All right, here we go.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

How much time you get for that? That was your first time?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I got on or so.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, I still didn't learn no Lesson. Cause they let me out for free. Just call somebody. Hey, it's my first time, you know, they got this charge. Okay, we gonna. Or you. You just go to court. Boom. Right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Or means own recognizable.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Boom.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I'm thinking it's a game. I do some dumb ass shit again, bro.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What you do?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I got the weed in the car, but this time I'm on a freeway, bro.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And it's with that same janky ass car.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Same janky car, man, but it's construction. The police is driving next. My dumb ass drive right past them, like fast type shit. Hey, pull my dumb ass over and take me to jail again.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And you got more weed in the car.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I got. Yeah, that's why they took me to jail. So I drive past fast, thinking I'm.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You didn't see the police right next to you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I did, but I'm thinking, what you thinking? I don't know, man. I was thinking I was a white lady or something, man.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I don't know.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I thought I was white. Feel me? I ain't know. I ain't know I was black yet. Shannon told you. This is my first time, you know, interacting with the police. You know, usually I'm playing football. I'm out the way, right. With a female or with the homie or something. Yeah, man, I tried. Or this time they like, shouldn't have did it. They hang up on my face. That's when I'm like, oh, you weird.

[Commercial Narrator / Advertiser]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's when it kind of hit a little different, you know, they didn't or me this time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, because you had a.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And they got smart with me too. I was like, oh, damn. So I had to sit there a little bit this time. And then, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Cause you had a court appointed.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So then I went to court, and then that's when I seen it was real, like. Cause you know when you got the court appointed, you go to court with everybody else. They got court appointed.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And we.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Which is damn near everybody will piggyback.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, we piggybacking. Oh, what they say, man, you going to the county or you getting out on or.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nah, I got a whole last time they got me.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. But my quarter pointer got me out, you know, probation.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I'm watching everybody else. They come back crying, oh, I gotta go to the county. I'm like, fuck, bro, I'm about to leave. Yeah. So that's when I was like, oh, yeah. It's a little bit serious, man. Like, they ain't gonna just let me out. So then I started, you know, just moving a little bit smarter. No, that was my first experience with Jodo.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So what made you decide to say, you know what? Damn this. I ain't selling no more of this ish. You know, I might smoke a little weed, but I ain't.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, I kept selling it. I just stopped delivering.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you had. Pull your head hard. Put your head hard.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Oh, man, I'm headstrong, man. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Your head ain't harder than prison doors?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, hell no.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You see?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not at all.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, if you keep doing this foolishness.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I know. I learned my lesson, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You learned your lesson?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I got it. I seen it. It's real. It's hot. It's hot in there. I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You and Mike Epps had a back and forth about people being celebrated once they come home. Mike did a little time. Well, he didn't go do the time. I think he had that scared straight situation. When do you think people should be celebrated? I mean, you had a housewarming party when you got out.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, no, I think. I think. Yeah, I think. Definitely. I think.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nah, I'd have throw you one when you got out from college, when you graduated from college. That's what I'd have threw.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, I think anybody that's living they truth should be celebrated. You know, Anybody that's doing it the right way. So it don't even gotta be Jake.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Coming home from prison, mean you didn't.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Do it the right way, but you coming home from an environment that you're not gonna appreciate life if they don't appreciate you coming home. You know what I mean? So it's more of a celebration thing, you know, Especially in the hood, that's like a regular thing. Everybody. We seen boys in the hood, these make movies about jail. That's a part of they glorifying it. You feel me? So you don't get to just. You don't get to decide who we clap for.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But let me ask you this. You say you got the tattoos. The tattoos are for you. Why did you coming home mean something to somebody else instead of just you? Why do you need to be celebrated?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Cause it was just me in jail.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Exactly. So why I need to celebrate you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Cause why would I want to come home?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You want to stay there?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, man, I'm saying, if it's all about me, what's the difference from being in jail and being free?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I didn't celebrate you going in.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, but I'm sorry.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I mean, I'm. Let's just say for the sake of argument. You going to college, That's a celebration. I'm gonna call everybody, man. You know, Junior going to college.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Let's have a party.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

For what? That's all about me, right?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You can't say it's an accomplishment, but you can't.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Going to jail and coming home, that's not.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's definitely an accomplishment.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you do realize, Blueface, you're not supposed to be there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Correct. But anytime you go through hardship and you make it out, it's an accomplishment.

[Commercial Narrator / Advertiser]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You don't get to decide which which one is more credible or valuable.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Like I said, life is a numbers game right now. It's about understanding.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

It's not about how many celebrations do I throw you. Cause when you got out.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Just one. You only get one.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No, but when you got out of.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Or.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I celebrated.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

No, no, no. Nobody celebrated me for none of that. Cause I didn't do no time, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

When somebody does time and they do it the right way, they walk it and, like, how they talking it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You celebrate them. Cause that's how they ultimately want to stay free. That's what make them.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you coming home this time and having the celebration, your family, friends and loved ones there to celebrate you, that made you not wanna go back.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. You know, of course, not wanting to go back is already a thing. But all of you not wanting me to go back.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Makes it even more of a thing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's a numbers game, you know, and not even to keep it about jail. You know, we can go other topics with anybody. Like, I just like to use the LGBTQ community because they've come such a long.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

We don't gotta get with it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

But we have to respect their numbers.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

No problem with it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So we don't get to say that. Oh, they shouldn't be celebrated because they should. They got their numbers up.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

They live in the truth.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yes.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

If they guiding people down that way, the right way.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Why not? There's too many people that's doing it the wrong way.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Tricking us, making us believe that it's, you know, it's like a stripper telling you to go work at the club. Cause she making $10,000 every night.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Knowing damn well she's not.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

She's not not making that kind of bread.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And she just influenced you. And now you think that was a lot.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

That's glamorous. Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Or I'd rather have a stripper tell you, hey, girl, you might only make 250 every night. That's what I make. That's this XYZ. How I get by and how I adjust and deal with it. She should be a part of right at least. Telling you the right way. If you want to choose to indulge, at least. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But be straight up with it.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

That's all.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Why'd you go to prison?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Getting away with too many crimes, too many probations, too many cases pending. You know, there's always one specific thing that tips the scale. Which was I was on probation and my baby mama had a show in Utah. So I didn't tell my PO cause I knew he wasn't gonna let me go. So I tried to sneak out there, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, bud, you don't wanna do right for ish, do you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I caught on tmz, you know, he showed up to court, my next court date, and he just pressed like, look on top of this, this, that and that. He did this right here. This is what we want. And the judge just had to grant it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So what happened by the car to the car that you was riding in when somebody made fun of the car?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Oh, the little. The shooting? Yeah. In Vegas. Yeah. To be honest, I didn't know anything about the jokes or anything prior. All I know is when he pulled up and the tires were screeching and the window was down and he was yelling. That was the only part that I got of the situation and why I reacted the way I reacted. Okay. I felt like my life was in danger, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Somebody pull up. You know, it's just. I've been there before, so I just did what I known to do in that moment.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Is there. Was there a better way you felt. You felt that your life was gonna be in danger? Do you feel that there's a better way that we, us as black men can handle situations that it doesn't always have to be life or death. It doesn't have to always be me versus you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Definitely. Definitely. I think a conversation, it's the best way. Or boxing gloves, you know, if the conversation doesn't get as progressive as it should.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You tried to glove up anybody you have. So in other words, now if you have a disagreement with somebody, you wanna glove up?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. If we can't talk it out, Right. Yeah. If we gotta see whose dick is longer, let's do it, you know? You know how niggas are. I do. You know, some just wanna see how far they can piss next to you. Sometimes you gotta out piss em. You can't talk em. You can't feel me. You. You can't talk him down.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Hey, you can't. Look, bro, I ain't really trying to go this route, but.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Hey, come on.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Seem like we here now.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

I read when you said prison gave you a break from responsibility.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Mm, yeah, it did.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So what? You ain't gotta pay no rent, you ain't got no car note, you ain't got no utilities. Everything is taken care of.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. And there. Yeah, you know, physically, you know, outside, I'm still paying my own bills, but. But I'm not worried about it all day or chasing after a chick to do it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You know, I'd rather worry about responsibility than to eat a slice of bread and a banana.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Me too.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And that chicken patty, that's just me, Faith.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Me too. But I'm. You know, I don't know how to. I just. I don't know. Sometimes I just keep it too honest, you know? Two rooms. So I'd much rather have responsibility, but being in jail is a break from it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. Do you feel sometimes you'll be overwhelmed? That life overwhelms you?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Hmm? Nah, I've been living this way for a long time.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So you're not tired of living this way?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah, I done had a nice rest in jail. I'm wide awake, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you do realize that you have kids and you have people that are depending on you, that are counting on you, and you can't be in and out of that situation.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Not the jail situation, but the life I live is ultimately how I provide for my kids. So I never get tired of providing. But I definitely watch my step.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

I ain't going back for no female for no. Soon as you even start talking like that. You have a nice day, baby girl, Huh? I will never see you again.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You mentioned earlier that there are classes that you can take in prison. Did you take any classes?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep. It's like a Compassion Prison project. What kind of Compassion Prison?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay. Okay. What does that involve?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

It's like, teach you how to have compassion in prison. You know, more victim awareness. You know, more self help. Like, you could apologize to your victim. Would you? You could talk to their family. Type stuff, you know, just opens you up a little bit more to the other. To the other side. To the other side of the gun, you know, which was dope. I took a theater class, which is like improv, though. Like, no talking, but just walking around doing this, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Type thing. That was pretty cool. What else did I take? I took a computer class. Typing class.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You good with computers?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah. I was pretty terrible, but I was doing whatever to get out the cell, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So these classes.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So all these classes kept you out.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Of the cell classes. I obligate this door to open, you know, without it, my shit was never open. I'm like, man, how are you out walking around? You know? Cause every, like, it's like a college campus, right? So some people working. They got their work sweater on and backpacks, and they out roaming around, and you just in the cell window watching, like, nigga, how are you out every day?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You like, I want somebody to get.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

In that class, then, you know, put me in there, and then, you know, that's how I started moving around.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But you were good. Have you gotten better at.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. At typing? Yeah. Yeah. I learned a little bit in there. It was actually more like drawing up, like, insurance papers. And it just showed you, like, how to do more, like, docusign type stuff. Documents. Necessarily type them.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You own a restaurant now, right?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Seafood restaurant?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

King of crab.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

What made you get into hospitality? What made you decide to open up a business, a reputable, a real business, and not be a street pharmacist? Right, Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah. So at this time, I was kind of. Kind of falling off my little. My little music shit. I had a few dollars. I'm like, damn, what should I do with these dollars? So I started looking into franchising stuff, and that stuff is hard, man. They want your damn kindergarten report card, you know? So I'm like, I ain't got all that, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Started looking into weed shops. All right? They want too much. Gotta buy £100. And the store and this farm is. Oh, yeah, that ain't gonna make money too fast. So I walk into this fish place, you know, I was actually buying a car from a place across the street. Somebody stole my car.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Damn.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Somebody stole my car from the airport. So I'm stuck at the airport. I'm like, man, I'm about to go get another car, go to Mercedes. You know how it takes a minute to buy a car? Yeah, man, I'm hungry, bro. I'm about to go to this fish spot right here. Go in there, eat the food. Oh, yeah, that's good. How much y' all want? Let me. Let me buy into this. Let me get a percent, you know? Hey, turn me down. Oh, no, man, we ain't doing that. You know, we got it going on. They got their family business, whatever. All right, all right, bet. Well, just take my number, you know, just in case. Just in case. Sure enough, they hey, we tired. We ready to sell. Boom. 80,000. Gave him 80,000 cash. Now I got a fish plot, right? I don't got no recipe. I don't got no menu. I don't got nothing. Feel me? But I'm like, man, call my mom. Hey, Mom, I just got this fish fighting you to come down here and run this, right? Boom.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

But the people that was cooking, they still stay there, right? The cooks and stuff still stay there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Nah. So they was like, the owners was working in there, cooking type.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Feel me? So they was tired. They like, man, we wanna sell. We about to go invest in this and that, right? Bet. All right, here's the money. All right. Mom, should I got this fish restaurant come ready for me, though? Cause I know you know how to cook, right? She had a couple restaurants out in Ohio. So I'm thinking, like, it's perfect family, mom. You know, I was paying her, her husband and the rent. I'm like, all right, you know, the first couple months. Okay. About six months later, I'm like, hey, hold on. Where the money going? I'm paying you and the rent, right? At least one of them should be covered. You should be paying yourself. And I pay the rent.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right, Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Or vice versa. She taking out loans, credit cards, the business name, you know.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, my goodness.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Without me knowing, approving, Right. So she just hit me with the debt, like, oh, I owe this on the taxes, this and that. I don't owe nothing. You gonna pay that? So that kinda. Then she got tired and kinda quit on me, right? So, boom, she quit on me. So now I just got this place now. No nothing.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So how did that make you feel? You got this investment spot. You're trying to do the right thing.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

And you, like, you know, mom, I trust you, and, you know, I know you can cook a little bit, so come down here and help me run it. And you mentioned that you're paying the lease on the building, you're paying her salary. Ain't no money coming in. And now she's taking out loans and credit cards in the business name in which you're responsible for.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, but we making like 30,000amonth.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Okay.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Obviously not all profit. You know, a lot of that margin is going into daily upkeep. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You got a lot of food and stuff like that.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

Payroll.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Food service.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, service. Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So off the back, we probably making at least 5 to 10,000 just in profit, you know? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Nice little. Hey, nice little get.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

We doing comedy nights. You know, we start selling drinks and. And all type of stuff. So it just stopped adding up after a while, you know? So, boom, now I'm stuck with this place. I walk into another place, the king of crabs. I don't recita. So I'm an investor, man. That's what I am. I think that's what I'm good at. I don't want to run it. I just want to see it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You just want to invest it. You want to plant the seed and then watch it grow.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. So I walk into this place, try their food.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Oh, five.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

How much, man? How much to make this over here at this right here? I already got the place, right? No, I already got it. All I need you to do is make it work. He's like Armenian dude named Eddie. He's my boy. Now we business partners. We got a. I got majority ownership. 65, 45.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

65, 35.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. No, no, no, not even that. 55, 45. Okay, 55, 45. And I had a damn near bargain with him for that. I'm like, damn, bro, you don't want to help re innovate. Because I had to gut it, clean it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So it cost me 300,000 just to make my place approved for his place. Right. So money going out. Look, man, I need 55. 45, bro, fuck that. 50 50, right? That first is 50. 50. You know what I want.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, because you were putting all the money in, so you got to have a little bit more saints.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. So boom, Once we agree to that, I put the money up. Just while I'm in jail, though, you know, I put the money up, got it re innovated, and boom. That's how it came about today. Just walked in, tried the food.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

So they still got that same food, same recipe. You still excited? So you still sit down to eat and still get that same feeling?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Fire. Real boss, like, you know, or you could just go in a restaurant and just make it yours.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah. So you think that's your most sound investment?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah. Cause I think it's. The restaurant business is very, very volatile. Very hard. It is very hard, you know, but it's more of a five year thing, you know, than a two to three year.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

So I like that about it.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

You know, something that I can forget about. Like, it's not making me money today or yesterday. I can forget about it. You know, it's keeping up with itself in about five years.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Well, you know, you'll reevaluate it. Maybe. Do I want to. Maybe I want to sell. Maybe I want a franchise.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Exactly. But I have the option, you know, I have something there. A tree at least.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. Are the. Is the investment? Is that your best purchase? Is that the best use of your money?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Besides my houses and stuff? Yeah, probably, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

You got rental properties or you just got properties you live in?

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Yeah, I got properties I live in and then I sell. So it's like, cool. I'm never like, too stuck in one place and I'm not leasing or renting nothing. So it's just cool to have assets to play with sometimes, you know?

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Right. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first. Ah, there. The last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Look, Santa, the kids left you.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Milano mint chocolate, so rich.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

Chessman butter cookies, so buttery.

[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

And Linza Raspberry.

[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

A holiday classic.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

Fancy Santa.

[Podcast Host / Announcer]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Blueface (Rapper, Interviewee)]

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[Shannon Sharpham (Host of Club Shay Shay)]

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