Club Shay Shay - Blueface Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Blueface Part 2 (Dec 24, 2025)

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: Blueface
Episode Theme: Life after fame, lessons learned from music, business, prison, relationships, and the realities of celebrity culture and masculinity, with Blueface’s signature candidness.

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Overview

In Part 2 of his Club Shay Shay interview, rapper Blueface returns for a raw, humorous, and sometimes vulnerable conversation with Shannon Sharpe. The discussion ranges from rap industry insights and lessons learned from early success, to prison life, betrayals in business and personal circles, boxing ambitions, and the complexities of relationships, masculinity, and fame. Blueface’s unapologetic personality blends with Shannon’s probing yet playful interviewing, resulting in candid revelations and memorable exchanges.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rap Career and Business Moves

• Transition from Rap to Business:
  • Blueface discusses rap as a stepping stone to other ventures.
    • “Rapping, of course, is how—it was like a stepping stool for me, you know? ... That’s how I’m able to do all the stuff that I’m able to do.” (07:24)
  • He’d prefer to make money quietly, out of the spotlight, but fame still drives his income.
    • “If I could have the money without my business being out there, I must take that.” (08:01)
• Lessons from Music Industry:
  • Never count out an artist—comebacks happen.
    • “Music has taught me not to write people off.” (08:25)
  • Choosing Cash Money over other labels for cultural compatibility.
    • “Cash Money, they was some nigga shit, you know, right? So I signed with 'em. Cause I could do nigga shit.” (09:37)
  • Birdman’s mentorship: blending street smarts with corporate strategy.
    • “Birdman taught me just how to conduct yourself… you can still be a street dude and move like a corporate person.” (10:12)

2. Collaborations and Industry Relationships

• Double XL 2019 Freshman Class:
  • Doesn’t maintain relationships with classmates but acknowledges their talent.
    • “Do you keep in contact with any of those?”
      “No. I mean, I’ve done music with a couple… but as far as today, no.” (10:46–10:56)
• Impact of Cardi B Feature:
  • Turned Blueface into a national/international sensation.
    • “That took me over that water, man. That’s when overseas start coming in.” (12:22)
  • Shout-out to Cardi for opening new markets and opportunities.
• On Fame and Fickle Relationships:
  • Early music relationships shift when clout fades.
    • “When it gets rocky, start acting funny… you don’t get to [use me] and then two years later… start just saying shit.” (16:28–17:32)
  • Commentary on industry “brotherhood” being conditional.
    • “They only their brother as long as they can use you when you hot.” —Shannon Sharpe (17:35)

3. Money, Investments, and Lessons Learned

• Spending vs. Investing:
  • Early splurges: “I wasn’t even thinking about nothing… buying jewelry, all type of shit, cars.” (13:25)
  • Realizes value in investing, notably in real estate.
    • “Started buying houses, though. That was probably the best investment I made.” (13:25)
• Managing Money for Others:
  • Gave $90k to his child’s mother while in prison—came back to nothing.
    • “You gave your baby mama 90?”
      “Yeah, but she had nothing when I came back.” (49:49–49:57)

4. Legal Issues and Prison Life

• Probation Restrictions:

  • Can’t leave county, hampering music/tour ambitions.
    • “That’s why I’m only doing, like, local stuff right now until…they trust me more to leave.” (13:48)

• Prison Experiences:

  • Gained muscle mass (“was 150, now 210 pounds”) via bodyweight exercises.
  • “Nobody mess with you in there if they see you get big.” (44:29)
  • On prison culture: “It’s all about respect, all about masculinity.” (43:49)
  • On celebrity status in prison: “Everybody treats you like you’re not famous in there… Even the police treat you like that.” (42:33)

• Altercations & Survival:

  • Story of being stabbed and chased in a boxing gym:
    • “He started chasing me all around… I’m in the boxing gym like a maniac… I turn around, I retreat, I jump in the ring, he stabbed me in the leg.” (33:11–35:56)

• Resolving to Stay Out:

  • “I’m never going back. I ain’t gonna never be seen.” (47:57)
  • Prison experiences taught him about loyalty, betrayal, and the real costs of incarceration.

5. Boxing and Public Challenges

• Interest in Boxing Matches:
  • Wants to box Jake Paul, Soulja Boy, NLE Choppa, Tekashi 6ix9ine, and others:
    • “You trying to glove up Soulja Boy, Nle Choppa…?” —Shannon
      “Yeah, all of them.” —Blueface (19:46–20:03)
  • On Jake Paul: “I’m already two and oh… I already been doing this in the arenas.” (20:49)
  • Entertains idea of fighting for entertainment, but draws line at “real” opponents.
• Boxing Mishaps:
  • Recounts taking a body shot from Ryan Garcia:
    • “My liver ain’t tough. I guess my shit weak.” (31:35)
• Fights in Prison:
  • Claims an undefeated (9–0) record, but clarifies it’s about standing ground, not bullying.

6. Relationships, Masculinity, and Gender Dynamics

• Dating Philosophy:

  • Advocates dating multiple women to learn what you do/don’t like.
    • “You should date as many people as you can so you can find out what you like.” (51:35)

• Double Standards and Openness:

  • Open to partners with “a past,” but wants transparency, especially regarding industry connections.
    • “How many rappers have you slept with? What’s their names? So that way I…” (62:44)
  • “It’s not gonna stop me from with you. It’s just for my knowledge.” (63:42)

• Rules and Boundaries:

  • Not possessive once a relationship ends.
    • “I still f*** them. I can’t be like this and be holding court on no female.” (58:40)
  • Accepts cheating as a two-way street: “If I cheat on you and you cheat back, we even.” (76:41)

• Lessons from Family:

  • Upbringing (mother/sister) shaped his skepticism toward women and sense of self-reliance.
    • “Probably my mom, my sister…it starts with your family.” (69:16)

• Notable Exchange:

  • On fighting his ex’s father:
    • Shannon: “But that’s old man. You can’t fight people dad.”
    • Blueface: “If they hit me, I’m a reactor. Shannon, just…” (67:09–67:13)

7. Fame, Identity, and Legacy

• On the highs and lows of fame:

  • Would prefer money over fame: “If I could have the money without the fame, yeah… be a better life.” (82:04)
  • Fame’s addictive pull: “Clout’s definitely addicting. It’s a hell of a drug.” (81:41)

• On Legacy:

  • Wants to be remembered for authenticity:
    • “Just real… Just keeping it real… If Blueface said that shit, it happened.” (82:34–82:54)

• Advice to Others:

  • Openly gives advice based on lived experience:
    • “If you can tell somebody your experience and they still go through with it… I told you.” (83:49)

8. Humor & Notable Banter

• Blueface on His Most Valuable Possession:
  • “Probably my dick. Ain't gonna lie, man. Ain't gonna lie. That's the only thing I can hold every night, feel me?” (77:38)
  • Shannon: “I was hoping you say the restaurant.” (77:47)
• Playful Generational/Romantic Ribbing:
  • Blueface playfully teases Shannon: “You cheated yourself out of life, 57 years, you ain't experienced half the shit I experienced.” (86:33)
• Rap Outro:
  • Blueface ends with lyrics from “Grinding All My Life.”

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Rapping... was like a stepping stool for me, you know?... But my heart’s not in that.” – Blueface (07:24)
• “Music has taught me not to write people off.” – Blueface (08:25)
• “Birdman taught me just how to conduct yourself... you can still be a street dude and move like a corporate person.” – Blueface (10:12)
• “That Cardi B feature took me over that water, man. That’s when overseas start coming in…” – Blueface (12:22)
• “I wasn’t even thinking about nothing… buying jewelry, all type of shit, cars.” – Blueface (13:25)
• “When it gets rocky, start acting funny.” – Blueface (16:28)
• “If I had to put a record on [fights in prison], probably say like 9 and 0.” – Blueface (40:31)
• “I’m never going back. I ain’t gonna never be seen.” – Blueface (47:57)
• “You should date as many people as you can so you can find out what you like...” – Blueface (51:35)
• “If I cheat on you and you cheat back, we even.” – Blueface (76:41)
• “If Blueface said that shit, it happened.” – Blueface (82:54)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Business vs. Rapping, Investments, Music Industry Real Talk: 07:08–13:37
• Collaborations, Fame, and Relationships in Rap: 10:32–15:09
• Probation & Limitations on Touring: 13:37–14:10
• Falling Out With Rappers, Industry Brotherhood: 16:28–17:53
• Boxing Challenges, Prison Fights, and Gym Incident: 19:46–42:09
• Prison Culture, Weight Gain, Lessons Learned: 42:09–48:00
• Managing Money for Family & Betrayal: 49:49–51:12
• Dating Philosophy and Gender Roles: 51:35–70:37
• Mother & Family Influence: 69:16–71:16
• On Fame, Legacy, and Advice to Others: 81:12–84:27
• Humorous Banter & Closing: 77:38–88:31

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Conclusion

Blueface’s Club Shay Shay Part 2 is a systematically candid breakdown of fame, relationships, and tough lessons. Through stories both wild and reflective, he reveals the rewards and pitfalls of fast money, fickle friends, and public life. He lays bare the double standards and realities of masculinity in hip-hop and American culture, offering unapologetic wisdom and making it clear he plans to run his own race—on his terms. Shannon Sharpe keeps the interview lively, insightful, and often hilarious, resulting in a must-listen (or must-read) for fans of hip-hop, sports, and authenticity.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Business versus rapping. The investment portfolio. Arm your business, your restaurants, or rapping where you make your, where you make your money at or you go to these.

[Blueface]

Yeah, rapping, of course, is how I was like a stepping stool for me, you know, So I can't, can't never forget about it. That's how I'm able to do all the stuff that I'm able to do. So I still feed that, feed the market, but my heart's not in that. You know, if it was up to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me, I'd be You a businessman now?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I'd be in the background. Nobody know me with a hundred million. It's better that way, you feel me? I can have more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Blueface]

That don't know about you. Feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They know about you.

[Blueface]

Nah, but I know, but they. It don't gotta be as out there, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh, oh. You don't want your business out there.

[Blueface]

Yeah, you know, if I could have the money without my business being out there, I must take that. But I can't have it like that yet. My business gotta be out there. So that's how the money come in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What have you learned about the music business?

[Blueface]

I've learned that you cannot count any artist out. You know, when you think they done, when you think it's over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's never over.

[Blueface]

It's never over. You're truly underestimating the power of music and the power of rap. Anybody could do something very courageous, very sporadic, and drop a song with it and they'll be back. So. Music has taught me not to write people off, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Are you still signed to Cash Money?

[Blueface]

No, I'm not signing anyone right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you were signed to Cash Money, right? Why'd you sign there?

[Blueface]

I felt like they were the most understanding as far as my lifestyle. So at the time, a lot of labels was calling and reaching out to me. But Atlantic, you know, I went to Atlantic. I met the little vice president lady, you know, she just kind of asked me a question. Like, she was like, are you a Cript with a C? You know, like Cript or me with a T at the end. I didn't really know what she meant, you know. So I'm like, crips? What you mean? And then my homie was like, she saying, you a Crip? I'm like, oh, shit, yeah. Yeah. I probably ain't gonna be able to sign here like that. Don't even, you know, I can't see me. Cause I was doing it all by myself in the beginning. I'm doing the bookings, I'm doing the right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't have a manager, you didn't.

[Blueface]

Have a team or anything like that from the ground. So, like I said, I like being the boss, right? So I didn't even wanna give my bossly duties away to somebody who wasn't even understand where I'm coming from, right? So Cash Money, they was some nigga shit, you know, right? So I signed with some. Cause I could do nigga shit. I could drop a song tonight. They wouldn't take it down, you know, white people, they gonna take that shit right down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the Birdman teach you could? Bird bout that business, bird bout that bread?

[Blueface]

Yeah, nah, for sure. Birdman taught me just how to conduct yourself, you know, carry yourself. You can still be a street dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And move.

[Blueface]

Like a corporate person. Yeah, that's probably the best thing. I'll say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Double X 2019 Freshman Class Gunna Meg Baby, Roddy Witch Cordae. You're part of that class, man.

[Blueface]

I mean, yeah, that was a good class.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Are you in contact with it? Do you, do you, you know, you in contact with any of those, any.

[Blueface]

Of these people currently? Nope. No. I mean, I've done music with a couple of them after that. Right. But as far as today, no, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mean, that's a nice class. You the best rapper in that class?

[Blueface]

Of course, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, the baby.

[Blueface]

Oh yeah, the baby crazy too. Yeah, he go crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna last album, that thing here.

[Blueface]

Yeah, Gunna be going crazy too. I ain't gonna lie. I like his new sounding Roddy Grant with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh no, Blue. I mean, you know Meg.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I know Meg.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Features. I mean, Cardi B Offset, Lil Baby, Gunna Da Baby, Nle Chopper, Kevin Gates. How was the experience? So let me ask you a question. How so when you want to do something with somebody, what you do, you get on because you don't like to turn your duties over to anybody else. You the boss and you like to handle that, so you just reach out on your own.

[Blueface]

So, no, I mean, I like being the boss, but if I give you the duty, I don't micromanage. Okay, I let you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let you do what you do.

[Blueface]

I let you do it until I think you're not doing good enough. And then I'll probably step in and start hitting people up, so. And a lot of those features was just my manager or the label, just networking. I never really went out for any of those. And then a lot of ones that came in was through management and network, you know, I wasn't trying to get on anybody's home, so that's how that went.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did that Cardi B feature change? Blueface?

[Blueface]

Yeah, that took me over that water, man. That's when I overseas start coming in all the states, you know, New York and whatnot. You know, at first I was just like California, west coast popping. And then Cardi just took me across the map. So that's probably what, you know, billboards and all the stuff, whatnot. So shout out to Cardi, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you talked to her since that time? I mean, he got a little bit. She got a baby. Got another baby now.

[Blueface]

Well, not since that time, but after that, yeah, she brought me out a couple shows, couple arenas. She dope. She always treated me respect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you went on tour with Lil Baby.

[Blueface]

Yep. Yep. Yeah. So it started just going. Yeah, you feel me? Just started going and going.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when it's going like that, did you, like, hoard the money? Like, it's really good right now. I'm going, hey, I'm out with Cardi. I'm out with Lil Baby. Did you hoard the money?

[Blueface]

Yeah, for sure. That's a part of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a part of the restaurant hunt that was. Got the king of crab on.

[Blueface]

Nah, I was late in the beginning. I wasn't on no investment. It was too good. I wasn't even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wasn't even thinking about it?

[Blueface]

I wasn't even thinking about nothing. You feel me? I'm buying jewelry, all type of shit. Cars. At that time. I started buying houses, though. That was probably the best investment I made. I had two houses at one time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. Can you. Given your current probation situation, you have to get clearance from your probation officer to, like, go state to state or go out the country.

[Blueface]

County to county.

[Shannon Sharpe]

County to county.

[Blueface]

I leave to county. Yeah, it's bad. That's why I'm only doing, like, local stuff right now until, you know, they get a little bit more rapport with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

They decide that they trust me more to leave.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Well, you know, you can't make that big bread until you able to go state to state, country to come.

[Blueface]

I know. I'm just waiting, you know, probably top of 20, 26, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got CO sign. I mean, Drake. I mean, you out here in the west coast, so you know Kendrick.

[Blueface]

No, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't? Nope. I thought all the west coast rappers, y' all thought y' all knew each other, thought y' all were cool like that.

[Blueface]

We should be. I would shit, you know. You know, everybody be lifein'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Some people be doing their thing.

[Blueface]

No. So it's hard for all of us to get together, but. But a DM phone call, text message, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. You cool with Drake?

[Blueface]

Yeah, Drake's cool. He reached out to me early on. Show me some love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? You get your beat?

[Blueface]

Yep. Sent me some beats. Boy Wonder beats and stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Blueface]

Yeah, so it was cool. Like, you know, once it got lit, everybody was. It's the. It's the aftermath will let you know, like, what's real and what's not right. When those features and whatnot don't pull three. It's like, oh, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That who we on, huh?

[Blueface]

It was just for the moment. Yeah. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who would you like to collab with that you haven't worked with?

[Blueface]

Shit. Kendrick. Oh, make that happen, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You better. I don't know nobody in the music business.

[Blueface]

Make that happen, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I might get me a beat myself.

[Blueface]

Right? If you can make it happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Better days. Is that your best? All time.

[Blueface]

Lyrically, probably, yeah. Lyrically, I mean, I can do that. You know, I can get lyrical, but it's not my style. You know, I'm fun. I make music for a woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what you trying. So where you going with it? What you trying to do now?

[Blueface]

Now I'm just trying to go on another run and get out the way. No, now that I know the mind state of when I get the money and it's running. Exactly what to do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Run it up, move on.

[Blueface]

Exactly. I ain't trying to be 30 out here trying to appeal to the young kids, you know, I'm trying to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro, that's a year away.

[Blueface]

Exactly. So I only got a year left.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you trying to run it up in the next 12?

[Blueface]

Yeah, set up shop, man. I just feel like once you get older, you can't be trying to appeal to the younger audience forever, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Blueface]

Starts to take a toll on you, growing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why did you fall out with Lil Baby and Ellie? Chopper Offset. Remember we talked about it earlier? That conversation had. Sitting down, having a conversation.

[Blueface]

Yeah, shit. Like I said, when it's hot, these respectful, you know, when you lit, they know how to act second your shit, you know, which everyone does. Even those people are at that moment right now when it gets rocky. Start acting funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you say acting funny. What? They didn't call, they didn't write, they didn't send no feature. They didn't want to hop on it.

[Blueface]

They didn't know Blueface, they just step out they body. So, for example, Nle Chopper, I helped this man. I got him all his little shit going. He used to video chat me with girls like, look, I know Blueface. And I used to be like, yeah, that's the bro. You know, with him, you can't do that. And then two years later, when you feel like you who are you? Who are. Start just saying shit like, oh, you hitting a girl and all this. And you just start, you know, just going with the trend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So did you see my interview with T Pain?

[Blueface]

Mm mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

T Pain say when they tell nobody's Your brother. They're only their brother. As long as they can use you when you hot, you can do them a solid. They your brother.

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you cannot, they not your brother.

[Blueface]

Yeah, we falling out then. That's how I am. Soon as I see that we falling out. Second. Second. I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you went in with the wrong idea. You actually thought they were your brother, bro.

[Blueface]

I mean, I didn't come in industry, you know. Right. I just came into the industry. I wasn't already, so. It's something you gotta learn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think fast food restaurants like you or they like the money that you provide?

[Blueface]

That's different, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it's not.

[Blueface]

Definitely is. Cause if we getting money together, you better like me. No, me and this fast food restaurant ain't getting no money together. But I'm giving them money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing. That's what they looking. You can't give them no more money. You see how they did that?

[Blueface]

Yeah, you ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They looking at you and say, well, you can't bring us no more money.

[Blueface]

Yeah, but that's not cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They want your brothers to begin with. When you were hot, they were your brothers.

[Blueface]

That's still not cool. What, you want me to. What, are you trying to convince me, champ?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't trying to convince you any. I'm trying to convince you. You had the. And I get it. We've all been. We've all been there, man. That's my brother. We cool. Yada, yada, yada.

[Blueface]

I'm trying to say I'm taking it too personal. Yeah, well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you learned, though.

[Blueface]

If you video calling me to get some. That's a little too personal for me then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

If you video calling me. Look, I know. Blueface.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, bro.

[Blueface]

What you mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, see, you had better times out there. Were better times.

[Blueface]

Nah, you don't forget shit like that. You don't get to do that. You don't get to. Two years later, you got a cool song or whatever, whatever the case may be, and you just think like, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You thought y' all was really down, huh?

[Blueface]

Not even just down. At least down enough for you not to go against me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. Socially. Yeah.

[Blueface]

Feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

You can mind your business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. But if you see. You feel they spoke out of pocket.

[Blueface]

Yeah. If you see my girl or see something online, you don't. You know, you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't comment. Yeah.

[Blueface]

You don't step out your body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, oh, so now. So that's why you wanted to glove up. So you want to glove Up Soulja Boy. Nle Chopper. I don't know about Jake Paul. Jake Paul might be. You know, Jake Paul got real hands. Nick Young.

[Blueface]

Yeah, all of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You trying to get Soulja Boy to catch a fade?

[Blueface]

Nah. Soldier too small.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Blueface]

Soldier too small.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think Jake Paul a little bit too big, man.

[Blueface]

Jake Paul About 210, 215, about 220. I'm 210.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if you really like that, though, blue face.

[Blueface]

I'm fresh out, man. You see, Shane? I'm fresh out, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but that's a whole different ball game.

[Blueface]

Exactly. That Take a different type of heart, that box.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't say that you. I ain't saying that. You afraid to get in the ring with him now. I don't believe in him.

[Blueface]

I'm just saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think that. I mean. I mean, I don't know your skill set like that.

[Blueface]

Come on, man. I'm like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

Like, come on, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can we start out. Can we start out with somebody like, before? You can you work your way up?

[Blueface]

I'm already two, and. Oh, not asking to fight him my first fight, Shannon. I already been doing this in the arenas, London.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying two fights, and you ready to step to Jake Paul.

[Blueface]

I might have whipped. Nick. Hint, man, you know Jake Paul fights. You know, some of them don't be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, well, he getting ready to fight Anthony Joshua.

[Blueface]

Yeah. And we gonna see how that goes. And if anything happens other than what's exactly supposed to happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you gonna say something? Something ain't right.

[Blueface]

I ain't gonna say nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. Are you gonna watch the fight?

[Blueface]

Everybody else is gonna say nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna watch the fight?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I support his fights. I think he's pretty good. He's gotten a hell of a lot better. You can actually consider him a boxer now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, and he's stepping up. I mean, Anthony Joshua is a legit fighter. He was a former heavyweight champion of the world.

[Blueface]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He won Olympic. He won an Olympic gold medal.

[Blueface]

No, I agree. I salute it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we can see if. If Jake can touch him because, you know, his chin a little suspect, but. Hey, yo, but if he touched Jake Paul.

[Blueface]

Yeah. What's gonna happen?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or if he. If he catch him, you know what's gonna happen?

[Blueface]

What are you gonna do? What's gonna happen if he catch Jake Paul?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna taste the canvas. Okay, but you don't think that's gonna happen. What you think's gonna happen? Give us your prognostication on the fight.

[Blueface]

I got to the judges scorecard. How? It's preordained.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Blueface]

That's the best way I can say it. It's preordained, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nle Choppa, NBA, young boy seem to have a back and forth going on. What are your thoughts on that? You were cool. Are you cool with. You were cool with Nle Choppa? I don't know if you know NBA.

[Blueface]

Yeah, yeah. I've spoken with bro before. I mean, I don't know. And at least been asking for it for a long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you got beef with that man? What? Cause that man. Cause he put the phone up there and he got some brawls because he knew you and now you feeling some type of way.

[Blueface]

Nah. Only thing reason I feel type of way is when he went online and started, you know, defending whoever I was dealing with at the time. You know, it's like, why would you do that? Oh, you just trying to jump on a trend, get a little buzz going. You don't gotta do that, gang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Blueface]

But that's how Nle. Nle is kind of like a clown to this shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

Whatever they say, do be gay, be Muslim, be a vegetarian, vegan, he gonna do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

He's going through a lot of phases, that's all. So he growing up, but when he looks back, he's gonna realize, you know, a lot of. A lot of these phases were.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he. He had a real one.

[Blueface]

Yeah. And you know, young boy, he ain't. He didn't already went through his phases, so it's like. But as far as the beef goes, I don't know. I don't know which one's better or who's. I don't even know what's the beef. So to really speak on it, I just know Nle so I can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can speak on him.

[Blueface]

You feel me? I know him. For real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all need to get into a room, and y' all need to hash this out. We can do that.

[Blueface]

Yeah. That's very easy to have a conversation. I'll tell him to his face, Bro, what the hell is wrong with you? Right? Why are you, like, you upset at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The fact that he commented on something.

[Blueface]

That he shouldn't have just put himself in. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Interjected himself when he should have.

[Blueface]

He just picked aside, you know, pick the side type shit. And you can't ever choose the female. Now, that's weird. You feel me? Imagine you and your girl getting into it, right? And I'm speaking up for your female.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, you right.

[Blueface]

Shannon, if you don't slap the out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of me, you ain't.

[Blueface]

You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you right? When you right, you ain't wrong.

[Blueface]

Yeah, man. Hey, if you don't shut the up while I'm talking to this no young lady.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, young lady. Why do you rappers have. Why you guys have beef? What causes it? There's enough women out here for everybody.

[Blueface]

The fans. The fans make these rappers feel like they gotta do something at certain times where they don't gotta do nothing unless it play out and the situations don't play out. But the fans, yeah, the fans. Fans are different right now. The fans are controlling everybody right now. So it's a little weird. It wasn't like that when I was doing my thing, so I ain't got hip to that yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tekashi, you know, was making fun of your tattoos. You want to box him?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I would love to box him, but he just got a tattoo on his face. See how that works?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he's small. I mean, you keep talking.

[Blueface]

Yeah, but people want to see him in pain, you know, for what he done.

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[Blueface]

To the real one. So I would love to be that guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell you, I gotta fight for you.

[Blueface]

A little pain.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta fight for you.

[Blueface]

Who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My partner. Oo.

[Blueface]

Ocho. Not with me, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo.

[Blueface]

I seen Oo fight, though. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's an athlete.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

Yeah. Now O's pretty good. Yeah, I seen him get knocked out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can make it happen.

[Blueface]

Yeah, you got that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You won't, man. But I mean, I don't know if you. I don't know if you can go back and I don't know if you can rap after Ocho make you take canvas.

[Blueface]

Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta touch earth.

[Blueface]

Nah, I'm not. I'm not the toughest guy in the world, you know, But I'm a different. I'm a different breed, man. If I touch the canvas, somebody else gonna touch the canvas too. Okay, I'm gonna get my ass up, put my hands up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

And I'm gonna make sure you. I'm gonna make sure it's even. Promise you just. Cause I got that dog in me. You feel me? So some people get hit hard enough to where they don't want to get up, Right? You hit me hard enough and I can't get up. Ooh. It's bad for you, Shannon. It's bad for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, hold on. I saw Aaron Garcia almost knocked the breath out of you.

[Blueface]

Yeah, he did, actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Ryan Garcia, I was fucked up.

[Blueface]

Cause I lifted my arms up. So I kinda like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, you gotta put.

[Blueface]

Yeah, exactly. So I kinda.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would you lift him up?

[Blueface]

To give him a body shot, not to take one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But why would you do that?

[Blueface]

I thought I was tough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just told me you was tough.

[Blueface]

Yeah, but my liver ain't tough. I guess my shit weak.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you brace?

[Blueface]

No. That's what I'm saying. I started. So, like, I got nervous before he swung, so I yelled a little bit. So I just opened it up like. Ah. So it was like the best. Was the best thing in boxing that you can hit somebody like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, liver shot.

[Blueface]

Yeah. While they're up. And they. Not bracing. They actually, like. Yeah, not actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They let it all out. Huh?

[Blueface]

Yeah, sure. You should let him sock you one time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Blueface]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You took Aaron to Pumbles girl.

[Blueface]

She's on my fresh out of love show. I didn't know it was his girl until he came out and made a whole little thing about it. She hasn't been chosen yet, so I haven't taken her yet. Just a part of her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if he wanna box the winner? Take her.

[Blueface]

How many fights does Aaron have, winner take the young lady boxing him for? No, I already got her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you said you didn't have her yet.

[Blueface]

She's at the crib. I haven't chosen her yet as one of my concubines. She's there, you know, trying out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She's trying out.

[Blueface]

She's applying herself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man gonna see this man. You do realize that, right?

[Blueface]

Yeah, but he. You know, I don't think Aaron's tender like that. He's supposed to be the plumber.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy. You were stabbed and robbed at the gym. You training, right?

[Blueface]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened? Did you know you. Were you talking ish or just.

[Blueface]

No, actually, it was. I remember that day very vividly. I pulled up to the gym at like, 9am training. I needed some water. So when I parked in front of the gym, I walked across the street to this little convenience store, little restaurant type thing. Got a water. I walked out. There was this black girl on the phone. She just kept looking at me, smiling on her phone, looking at me walking past. I'm like, damn, that's kind of weird. All right. You know, I wait. You know, I'm thinking it's a fan. That's always what plays in my head. So I go into the gym.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boom.

[Blueface]

I'm training 30 minutes, probably. A dude walks in with the dog. He got his little pocket knife, you know, clipped on it. Yeah. And he just walks in. You know, it's just a vulnerable moment. You know, it's early. I just came in. The door's usually locked, but, you know, at this time, it's not locked just because of the circumstances, you know, gym ain't open yet. You want to fight? Who are you? Don't worry about who I am. You gonna fight me or what? You like to fight, big dog? You like to do this, do that? Who are you? Then he starts yelling like, oh, you something. My girl was with my girl. Like, bro, I don't know. I don't know nothing about nothing, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like, what's your girl name?

[Blueface]

Yeah, you know, like. Yeah, that's literally what I'm saying. Like, don't worry about it, bro. You want to fight or what? So I'm like, all right, bro. He's just he's his own one. Like, all right, put the dog up, bro, and we can put some gloves on, man. Come on. Like, you know I'm training. Come on. Nah, I want to go bare hands. Like, oh, he going for the full court press, huh?

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[Blueface]

So when he start doing that, my trainer steps in the middle of us and he starts talking to him like, hold on, bro, like, you doing too much. I'm like, man, I already feel like, you know, like it's my time now. So I step to the side and I glide. Whammy. Bam. Give him a cold little two piece. Ugh. He hit his head.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You snuck him.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I got gloves on, though. I didn't take my gloves off, so. But I'm feeling like I'm being pressed, you know? So now I'm just reacting, you know, to his actions. So I take my moment. Boom. He hit the pole, come back. Now he start going for the night, but he like backing up. You feel me? So at first I'm on him, he hit the pole. I'm thinking he about to fall, but he hit the pole and come back and he start going back. I'm like, oh, shit. He finna pull that knife out, huh? He like, I sure the am pulled it up, whipped it and put it right behind his ear and started chasing me like this. I ain't gonna lie, Shannon. I was running.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You shut up.

[Blueface]

He was chasing me all around. I'm in the boxing gym like a maniac, right? So boom, when I back up, like, you finna pull the knife out? I sure am. Whoom. Whammy. I turn around, I retreat, I jump in the ring. He stabbed me in the. That's how he stabbed me in the leg. Cause I got caught in the rope trying to get in the ring. Boom. Catch me in the leg. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's serious. Let me stop playing. Let me run a little faster. He run a little faster. He just got me right? So, boom, now I'm in the ring. He like, outside the ring. I'm like, man, he trying to scrape me. So soon as he jump in the ring, I jump out the ring, I run out the gym. This shit like a scary movie, Shannon. I'm holding the door like this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you think the girl that was on the phone set you up?

[Blueface]

I think she was on the phone with him probably. And she probably made it seem like, oh, he was talking to me. Like he. Yeah, and that was probably her dude or something, right? And then he just pulled up like, you know how dudes Are right. Ah. Do something to him right now. Stop playing with me. You know, she probably like, oh, you ain't gonna do nothing. That's Blueface, right? That's the best recollection I can come up with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you know who. So to this day, you don't know who it was?

[Blueface]

I don't know nothing about this dude, man. He was like 30 years old with a tank top on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, clearly you ain't got no dynamite in your hand. Cause you caught him flush and ain't dropping.

[Blueface]

I did. The pole caught him. So as he going. The only reason I even gave him a breath, like, to. The only reason he got able to retreat and pull the knife out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

Is. Cause the pole caught him. I hit him with a left. He's going down like, oh, yeah. I'm finna get on top of him. Hey, yo, pause. Hold on. Hey, yo, hold up. So boom. As he going back, though. It's a pole bow. He hit his head on the pole, and now he's like this. And he start backing up, so I start backing up. Oh, shit. I should have got up on him, though. I shouldn't have let him pull it out. I should have, you know, But I had the gloves on, so I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you had dynamite in them things, it had been over the pole. Couldn't have saved you. Whatever, but you ain't got no diving.

[Blueface]

Anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The cake blows. You throwing at him.

[Blueface]

I'm holding the door barricaded, man. He's like this. Like a scary movie. He trying to get out. I'm like, I ain't letting you out. You done stabbed me. Hell no. So boom. As I'm looking in his eyes, though, he started coming back to life. Like, the rage is like, slowly he's starting to realize. He just stabbed me. So I'm like, all right, bro, I'm gonna let you out this jumping Tesla. Put the dog in a Tesla, Jump in the car. I'm socking the windows now. So the gloves start doing me justice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you break his window.

[Blueface]

Busting the window, man. So I bust the window. He drive down the street, jump out the car like, oh, y' all didn't see that? I'm like, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Blueface]

Yes, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He dude show up at the gym. Walter squabble, okay? You hit him with a two piece. He falls back, but he catches his balance. He goes in his pocket with the clip on.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Stabs you in the leg.

[Blueface]

Chasing me around the gym.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chasing you around the gym. You try to jump in the ring you get caught in the rope. He hits you in the leg, okay? Now you run out the gym. He's inside the gym. You got a book barricaded in. As you see that glaze that was on his eyes, that he really wanted to kill you. As you see that starting to dissipate, you like, okay, bro, I' ma let your ass out now, but you need to be chill. Yeah, you let him out. He put the dog in the Tesla. He like.

[Blueface]

I start raging now, socking all the windows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bust, you blow.

[Blueface]

He drive off, get down the street to the light and start waving this. Get out and start looking in the air like, yo, didn't see that? He just hit the window. I'm like, bro, what the. You just stabbed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said, okay.

[Blueface]

He called it down the street. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said, call the police. You call the police.

[Blueface]

So I guess some strange way the fire truck was driving by and I'm stabbed. So we weighed a fire truck now, like, you know, try to patch me up type shit. And then it went from there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had to get stitches.

[Blueface]

Yeah, on the inside and outside. So he stabbed me like, knife went in two inches.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Damn.

[Blueface]

Yeah, so I had to get my tissue stitched up and my skin.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Blueface]

Yeah. And I had a fight. I couldn't fight. Fucked up my fight. Whoo. Yeah, it was pretty weird, but it's part of life, you know, I reacted and whatever happened, happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you. You had. Did you fight in prison? You had any boxing matches in prison? Yeah.

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You undefeated. I mean, is there any record? Can we. Can we verify this?

[Blueface]

If I had to put a record on it, Yeah. I didn't have that many fights, to be honest. But the ones that I did have probably say. Probably say like 9 and 0.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Oh, you talking about. You talking about in the ring or you talking about ain't no ring in prison?

[Blueface]

Or.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you. Oh, you. You tussle them.

[Blueface]

Yeah, got to, or else people gonna start doing weird shit. So I wasn't just fighting people just to fight em, right? You have to, like, do something to me. Like steal something while I'm not looking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Or how you know, they stole.

[Blueface]

Talking crazy shit. You was the last person here, man, we gotta fight, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Blueface]

Even if you didn't steal it, you should at least know who stole it. You feel me? You with me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you squabbling damn near about anything.

[Blueface]

Just if I feel they challenge you, if I feel disrespected. Yeah. Not just because you wanna fight me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or you, but you a celeb. In prison.

[Blueface]

Exactly. So that's why I'm fighting who I want to fight. You know, I'm not fighting the small dudes, or I'm. I'm fighting, you know, I'm not dictating who I'm fighting, right? I'm dictating who I'm fighting because there's plenty of other people I got. You want to fight me? All right. Fight these 10 niggas right here. And if you win, you can fight. Nobody's winning. I'm a nigga. You feel me? You don't just get to fight the final boss first, right? I'm the final boss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how are celebrities treated in prison? Do you get to be in G Pop? Are you in Sig? How so?

[Blueface]

You do a lot of talking to, like, counselors and reps and whatnot. And if you tell them you want to go in there, they gonna send you in there. A lot of people be saying they force you or they don't force you, bro. You tell them, hey, I'm cool. Cool with it. Yeah. And they'll send you in there. And then as far as the treatment, everybody treats you like you're not famous in there. Cause it's like a no.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You? You ain't nobody. You ain't here just with us.

[Blueface]

Exactly. So that's the treatment as a celebrity. Even the police treat you like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is prison, like life, where people be asking you for your food. You know how they say, hey, you gonna eat your corn bread?

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People be actually asking for your food?

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you say? Nah, I ain't giving you my food. I'mma eat it.

[Blueface]

Depending on how you say it and how they take it, you'll be good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you ask for it. Hey, bro, you gonna eat that? Yeah, I am.

[Blueface]

Yeah, Just like that. You feel me? You know how to do it, Shannon, you know when somebody's like. You feel like you can take it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

Or when somebody like, man, he said he gonna eat it. I ain't finna you know? But it's not even just on no tough shit. It's just some people just want to eat. You know, if they see something on your tray that you not touching or you saving, you not gonna eat that, bro. Like no type shit. You might just be saving it for the end type shit. So you just be like, nah, bro, I'm eating this, right? It don't be like nobody trying to bully for Trey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I was gonna say somebody. You just. Oh, you want that piece of white bread? Yeah, knock yourself out.

[Blueface]

But if they Feel like they can take it. They will, you know, A will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Blueface]

Yeah. If they feel like, man, you ain't eating that. Yeah. So prison jail is all about, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's all about respect, man, but you're not respecting the man. Playful.

[Blueface]

It's all about, like, masculinity. It's all about, like, you know, who's masculine. There's no, like. So if you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you got some tests.

[Blueface]

Yeah. If you love, like, not masculine enough, you know, they gonna test you. Yeah. You can. You know, everybody know who to try it with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you had them tattoos. You had tattoos and they said, oh, he for real?

[Blueface]

Yeah. And then I start getting big. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or you started puffing the eyes and you. Hey, you straight. You push up. They got. They don't. They took the weights out of. In California, didn't they?

[Blueface]

Yeah. No, it wasn't no weights. Just push ups, push ups and sit ups, pull ups, push ups and dips. That's all it took.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They see you, they say, oh, no, no, we ain't gonna mess with him.

[Blueface]

Yeah, yeah, you know. You know, I got my homies and stuff. So that was always, like. It was never like, I was messed with, but once I got bigger, you know, even the homies stopped messing with me. Like, yeah, bro, you get it. Too big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tory Lanez, he got stabbed. How did he get stabbed if he was he in G Pop?

[Blueface]

So I'm assuming he was, but just on a different yard to where. Okay, it's like 50% G popping, 50% protective custody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

So those yards are a little bit more stranger, you know? Cause you don't know what you're dealing with. At least in G Pop, you know, this dude's either a gangster or a. Right over there. It's like, this dude could be a gangster, snitch, all in one, you feel me? Or pedophile, you know, Like. So if I had to guess what that situation considered, though, just probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he a small dude, isn't he? He like five, three.

[Blueface]

Yeah, he's not that big. But at the same time, you know, it's the dudes that's not that big in there. They. You know, they howl at you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they'll run up on the wrong one.

[Blueface]

Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm pretty sure the dude he was into it with wasn't that big either, really. But if I had to guess, it was probably just some egotistical thing going on, you know? And Joe has a way of. You think people got your back until something happens, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then you realize you, for Yourself.

[Blueface]

So, yeah, I'm pretty sure he probably thought people had his back and he could carry himself a certain type of way. And this person just, you know, tried it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Did you see that? I don't know if it's AI, but a photo of you in prison.

[Blueface]

Oh my God, you did this split? They be trying me, Shannon. I be doing everything so correctly that they gotta do shit like that just to alter the mood, just throw it off. Come on, man. You know that's AI, man, I seen that. I'm like, wow. That's really okay, right? That's a good thing though. It's like, all right. Y' all gotta go that to them lengths to try to debunk my. Feel me? You can't debunk this shit, man. They know it when they see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you get to have your hair any kind of way in prison, do they make you cut your hair?

[Blueface]

Nah, you gotta have it any kind of way. A lot of people got dreads just. Cause it's like you can see the growth, right? But yeah, no, I ain't no hairstyles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I mean. I mean, you gotta wash it, you gotta take care of it.

[Blueface]

That's why people get dressed. Cause you don't gotta wash it, you ain't gotta take care of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or shave it all off, huh?

[Blueface]

Exactly. But they do got barbers or people that be cutting, you know, hustling. $5 cut, $3 cut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if you could trust you trust somebody cutting your hair.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do they got straight razors in there?

[Blueface]

A couple people me up. Nah, they just got the, you know, the little 99 cent razor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, bitch. Okay, I was gonna say that. Straight razor, boy.

[Blueface]

No, I don't know. But yeah, I didn't got let few people me up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they pushed the edges back too far.

[Blueface]

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before you went to prison, you doing 225. Now you're doing 275, right?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I couldn't even do 225 before I went. I was doing like, probably like 205. 205. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you could do 275 for one, two.

[Blueface]

Yeah, yeah, probably two. It's pretty crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you get about. You get another one in there, you might get 315.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I know that's pretty. That's crazy to me, but I love it. I ain't going back, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't going back? You done.

[Blueface]

I'm never going back. I ain't gonna never be seen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I heard a lot of people Say that.

[Blueface]

Now, you heard this one. Say it. I'm one and done, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What it done that made you change? What was it about prison to say, I ain't coming back here? Because you guess what you said earlier, you ain't had to worry about no responsibilities. You get two, you get two. You get two hot meals, a cold meal. You get a shower. You ain't gotta worry about no rent.

[Blueface]

That's the perks to it. You know, it's cons to it, and the cons outweigh the perks to this situation. But, nah, I was just sitting there and, you know, people acting funny, just like, okay, I would have did some time for you, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

I possibly would have overprotected you and got put in this position. And seeing you react like this is like, okay, it's not too many things that's worth sitting here for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

So let me chill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how much you weigh right now?

[Blueface]

Right now I'm like 210.

[Shannon Sharpe]

210. How much did you weigh when you went in?

[Blueface]

150.

[Shannon Sharpe]

150?

[Blueface]

Yeah. My last fight, I was 152.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The food must have not been that bad.

[Blueface]

Nah. You think you gained little salt and pepper?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gained 60 pounds.

[Blueface]

Little salt and pepper. I was eating all that shit. I wasn't tripping. I was asking for your food. You gonna eat that? Let me get your tray, bro. Let me. I need it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How long did you go? Sit down.

[Blueface]

Two years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two years?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

That's enough for you, huh?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I was more than enough. I was the longest, you know, So I was just enough for, you know, for you to be like, okay, I could either do this or can't, Right? I can't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hear the story of. How about Gucci? Man's his wife. I think it was his girlfriend at the time. He gave her 2 million. Every dime that he had, cash, she flipped it. He came home, she had 6 million.

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gave your baby mama 90?

[Blueface]

Yeah, but she had nothing. When I came back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Blueface]

Zero.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She ain't flipping.

[Blueface]

Mm, mm. No flip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's she spending money on?

[Blueface]

You know, it's crazy. I don't even know. I think she just got caught up with her lifestyle. She tried to blame it on rent and her car note and whatnot and taking care of the kids, but she didn't even take my instructions. I gave her the 90K and said, look, make this last. So what I did was I paid her rent for five months and I gave her 40,000. So I said, just make this last because at the time I had a six month sentence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Blueface]

A week later she doing club hostings, bookings and stuff. So she's making money now, right? So now you got this 90k on top of whatever you make. She's like 500 to 10,000 a weekend. So even after the six months it was gone and I'm looking like, okay, you didn't listen to me telling you to just chill and make this last. You went out and made money and you still ain't got no money. Oh, so you was just taking advantage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of.

[Blueface]

Thought this shit would last forever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you come home, you like, you cut off?

[Blueface]

Yeah. Hell yeah. I mean, as far as like companionship and futuristic plans. No, I would never be in that position with the same people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Once somebody mess over you, you done. You don't give them a second chance.

[Blueface]

No, I do. But if I know that if I was in prison right now, you wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wouldn't do right by me.

[Blueface]

Yeah, then I'm not gonna give you a chance. Cause that just shows me that you just using me. You know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What have you learned about dating?

[Blueface]

You should date as many people as you can so you can find out what you like, what you don't like, and then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But not at the same time. Yeah, well, how you gonna give somebody, how do you give somebody your undivided attention if you dating 10 women at the same time?

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[Blueface]

You don't shit. Never let them have you, King. Never let them have you, Shana.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't trying to get married.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I want a female that can deal with it, though. No, you can't deal with it right now. It's way worse stuff in this marriage that's gonna go on. Not even as far as women, just as far as dealing with me. So if you can't deal with me, don't gotta be 10 women. If you can't deal with another female, just, you know, competing. I'm like a high school football coach. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want the best player. You want the best player to play.

[Blueface]

The best player gonna start, and I'm not gonna micromanage, you know, but when you start showing up to practice late and you start, you know, you start not appreciating the team, you start complaining.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't getting no playing time next.

[Blueface]

Morning, come on, this playing. She think this shit a game second string. And you notice that's when they start acting like, oh, damn. You know, they go start trying out for other teams and whatnot. They always come back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you this. How can you be a better partner?

[Blueface]

Run a couple routes for him, you know, maybe get out there and run a few routes. I don't gotta always coach. I think I should, you know, play with them, you know, like I said, I don't always be a coach. I can get out in the field with them, you know, show them, I'm gonna play with you. I ain't just on the sideline yelling at you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Why are you okay revealing women that you used to date or deal with dating other rappers or celebrities? Why you okay with that? Why you just can't let that lie? Why you just can't keep that between you and her?

[Blueface]

Cause she can't keep it between me and her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She didn't say nothing. She ain't posting that. She did all this. What you be posting? What you be talking. Why you do that, blueface?

[Blueface]

She ain't keep it between me and her. Nine times out of ten, I already seen the shit. It's already out there. So they already too close. And I'm only putting it out there if you are putting something out there about me. So if you gonna go in there and lie and say, I'm this, I got a little dick, I'm gay, I'm. Put the truth out about you, and we gonna see whose reaction really, you know, is reacting. Cause, you know, people, when you tell the truth about people, they just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, a lot of times when same. Like women, when they get upset with a guy, they say he gay or he got a little small package. And when guys will say, she ain't no good in bed or yada, yada, yada, I mean, they just trying to say things to get a reaction, to hurt you.

[Blueface]

Right? But I'm not lying. I'm gonna tell the truth. Cause that's gonna get a. That's gonna hurt you and get a reaction. You lying is only gonna get a reaction. It's not gonna hurt my feelings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Blueface]

Like I said, I'm a reactor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you get upset when your exes talk to other rappers in the industry?

[Blueface]

No, not at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So once you're done, you done.

[Blueface]

I still him. I can't be like this and be holding court on no female. You feel me? I can't just be out here just nailing shit. And then as soon as you get nailed, I'm like, oh, I don't wanna nail you no more. That's, you know, that's a little hypocritical.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Blueface]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess.

[Blueface]

I. What about you? Have you introduced any girls to the league and introduced them to that lifestyle and then they. With the next player?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. Not that I know of. I mean, I'm sure there are women that I dated.

[Blueface]

Would you care? No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Once I'm done, I'm done, but I ain't going back.

[Blueface]

You wouldn't nail him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Blueface]

Why not?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I'm done.

[Blueface]

Cause the next player. Nail them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. I mean, we broke up for a reason. We move on. We decided to move on. Just go head on, do your thing. No. Cause I don't want no.

[Blueface]

What if there's still something there?

[Questlove]

Nah.

[Blueface]

You ain't never had no female that just had your little heart, your little number. You feel me? Had your little.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know that I had to go back.

[Blueface]

Not necessarily go back where you just had a little bit more forgiveness in your heart. Like, okay, that's fine. You LeBron. That's cool, baby. I ain't true. I still love you, girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Cause I would be very disappointed because LeBron is married and he got Savannah. So I would feel some type of way, right? But with that being said, no, I'm not. I'm not going back. You mess with. I don't care who it is. He don't have. It doesn't have to be a celebrity or an entertainer or an influencer or something like that. I just move on.

[Blueface]

I don't know if I get like that when I get up too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah.

[Blueface]

Are you married?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, but I've always been. I've always been like that.

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even when I was your age. You move on, be with somebody else. I'm cool.

[Blueface]

Did you have multiple women, though? Were you promiscuous?

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I was young, yeah. Yeah. I got three kids.

[Blueface]

How many, baby?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Different. Three. Nah, you get no. Damn. I ain't proud of that. Nah, hell no, I ain't proud of that.

[Blueface]

I mean.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause if I could do it all over again, I would have three from one.

[Blueface]

Yeah, me too. But you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you wouldn't.

[Blueface]

It don't work like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You probably have. You probably have five from five.

[Blueface]

I mean, Shannon, I'm three for two, man. I'm doing better than you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did better than me.

[Blueface]

You know better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do better than you do that. Touche. Touche.

[Blueface]

Yeah. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. But Chrisani, what is it about her? Because y' all have y' all little issues. Y' all go back and forth, but for the longest time, you just couldn't seem to get y'. All. Couldn't get each other out of y' all system.

[Blueface]

Yeah. I don't know. I feel like the beginning kind of set us up for a certain type of expectation. And neither of us was that person that we expected us to be, so just became a frustration thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wanna say, why you gotta all put your relationships out there in the public? You like, why you like.

[Blueface]

I know what's going on, man. You know, if it's out in public, I ain't gotta worry about it. If she cheating, they gonna tell me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But a lot of times people throw stuff out there just because they don't wanna see you happy.

[Blueface]

Yeah. But I know what's real and what's not. Get that little dm. Hey, baby, over here. Little baby house right now in the back room. You feel me? Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have that ever happened?

[Blueface]

Uh, not necessarily like that, but yeah, like, you know, the fans will put you up on game about your girl. They'll let you know her past, her present.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But her past ain't got nothing.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause look, the past ain't got nothing to do with you.

[Blueface]

I want to know, though, I got a little bit too much. Too much going on, you know? I'm a little high value. I consider myself a high value man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Does a woman have a right to know your past?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I put it out there. She can know whatever she want to know. So why you want. Why I'm asking for what I want to know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. What is it that you want to know? You want to know the guys or the number of guys? The names or the number or both?

[Blueface]

Nah, I don't care for the name or the number. But how many rappers have you slept with? What's their names? So that way I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you need to know all that?

[Blueface]

For future preferences.

[Shannon Sharpe]

PI.

[Blueface]

Nah, just. You don't know who gonna come out and say they. So I'd rather you let me know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as they ain't do it while you got it. Why you care?

[Blueface]

I don't if you tell me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they gotta tell you.

[Blueface]

I just did. Soulja boy like that. I can't do that. He didn't even know I. His.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His girl, his young lady.

[Blueface]

Yeah, my man. Yeah, he didn't know. So when I told him, he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that was before Soulja.

[Blueface]

It still hurt his feelings. I don't wanna be that guy. Let me know, baby. So that way, when it. Even if you know I don't care, it's not gonna stop me from with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you look at her in a different light. You can't. You're not gonna take her serious.

[Blueface]

Nah, I still take her serious. I don't care. It's just from. For my knowledge. So I put your mind in ease. Just so I know, like if there's going to be a bump in the road, you know, let me know before it gets bumpy. Like if you. If you dealt with a female and she with another NFL player, you wouldn't want to know. Just know what you're dealing with. Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't see, I don't even. I don't answer no question.

[Blueface]

You different, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You dealing. The way I look at it, you dealing with me now. Am I gonna have problems if I didn't?

[Blueface]

You don't want a nigga at the game. He targeting you and shit. You like, damn. Why is this hitting me after the play? Every damn play. He your. That's why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it might be the other way around if he target me after the play.

[Blueface]

I'm saying you don't want to know though. You don't want to be up to knowledge just based on it. Don't have to. It's not gonna dictate whether you deal with her or not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only time. The only time.

[Blueface]

You're a high value man. You should.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do the only time I've ever asked if I'm dealing with someone that has a child, I need to know what type of guy that I'm gonna be dealing with.

[Blueface]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you know, hey, I understand his best interest is the child and I understand that. And everybody. And I don't meet everybody's. I don't meet everybody's kids until it's an extended period of time. But I just want you know. Because I need to know what I'm dealing with.

[Blueface]

Right. That's how you look at it. I look at it on a different spectrum. You know, maybe cause I'm younger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

But it's not to determine if I'm a with you or not. It's more or less to determine who's gonna come after me for with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

Cause I'm with it. I'm with you. I'm. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't with it. I'mma leave.

[Blueface]

How you gonna leave if you don't know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm. Hey, but that's the thing, you know.

[Blueface]

You gonna leave if you find.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I don't.

[Blueface]

So you're a better not knowing type.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blueface]

Cause it could. Cause I mean, it's two different type of people. People that want to know and people that don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna cause a problem. Yeah, it's gonna cause a problem. Cause first of all, like you said, you're a known commodity. And so they always gonna feel. And let's just say it's not somebody in the industry. It might be someone that's not in the industry. When he's gonna feel like, oh, blueface think cause he this or Shannon Sharp think cause he that. He can yada yada, yada, yada.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I just want to. I mean, I just wanna know who in my lane, if it's a ball player, NFL player, I don't give a. But if he raps, let me know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Blueface]

I don't want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as he in it. He can be a Hooper, he can be catch the ball, he can do baseball, whatever. As long in my profession.

[Blueface]

There you go. That's a better way to say it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

Okay. And it's not gonna stop me from fucking with you. It's just gonna help me know what type of person I'm dealing with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Blueface]

And what type of people you deal with. You need to learn your lady circles, man. Type of. Even if it's her friends you don't check it? You check phones?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Blueface]

Oh, you tripping, brother. No, dog, I don't check, baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I ain't got no key. You got a key to your girl place? You ever had a key to your girl place?

[Blueface]

Yeah, I never used it, but I ain't never had it. But it's just. It's just a mentality thing, you know, you want a girl that's got the right mentality, right? These girls don't got the right mentality. They just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They mirror what you do.

[Blueface]

Trying to suck you dry. I don't know. They ain't marrying me. I ain't sucking nothing. They doing what they do. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you fight Chrisean's dad?

[Blueface]

But he hit me first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's an old man. You can't fight people dead.

[Blueface]

If they hit me, I'm a reactor. Shannon, just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's the old say, sir.

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[Blueface]

I said all of that. All of that. Literally. I didn't. I had no intentions of hitting him or fighting him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just walk away. Did two of us.

[Blueface]

To walk away after somebody hit you in the face?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's old, man. It ain't hurt.

[Blueface]

That shit hurt.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it hurt your pride.

[Blueface]

That too. It ain't hurt me, man. And think you just finna I'm finna walk away.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's your girl dad.

[Blueface]

He ain't my daddy. Shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's your girl dad. How is your girl gonna look at you knowing that you beat her dad up?

[Blueface]

I'm her daddy now. That's how she better look. Oh, Lord. How does this. I'm daddy now. I whooped your dad ass, now. I'm dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you see the online drama that your exes have? Some of your exes have. Do you tell. Y' all need to cut. Y' all need to squash that. You ever intervene?

[Blueface]

Nah, I don't know. That's. That's on there, man. I don't micromanage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't micromanaging. That's just like, hey, come on. Y' all don't need to do that.

[Blueface]

It is micromanaging. Once I let people do what they do, that's how I do it. You do. You can do whatever you want. You can go to fucking Compton tonight. I'm not gonna say nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you ain't play no role in anything, huh?

[Blueface]

After me? No. While I was in jail? Nope. They still trying to blame me for shit while I was in jail. I've been in jail two years. I shouldn't be to blame for a Thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you believe hurt people? Hurt people? Because I'm trying to figure out, you know, hey, maybe you need to talk to. I'm the wrong guy to talk to. But I'm asking what happened? What woman? Women. Women. Woman. One man or women did something to put you in this frame of mind?

[Blueface]

Um, shit, I don't know. Probably my mom, my sister. Your sister older than you, Starts with your family? Yeah. You see them?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you saw. You saw a lot of. You saw your mom had a lot of different men early up and so you like. You thought that was.

[Blueface]

Nah, I just thought that women weren't, you know, as upstanding as these guys think.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Blueface]

So you should definitely be in it for what you in it for and. Cause that's. You're not gonna get hurt like that, you know, If I'm with you. Cause I wanna with you, there's nothing you could do to me type thing. If I'm with you. Cause I think I'm the only person you with, then I'm kinda sacrificing myself for the manipulation, you know, psychology gave me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you okay being with someone knowing that they're potentially seeing someone else other than you?

[Blueface]

Yeah. If I'm doing it, how can I not be okay with it? I don't know how to be like that, Shannon. I don't know how to have 10 different women and be able tell one of these women that she can't have whoever's, you know, that doesn't necessarily have to be the one I'm choosing. I'm gonna say I'm gonna choose the best player gonna play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do your mom know you feel this way? That she might have played a role in how you are as a man?

[Blueface]

Of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talk to her about it?

[Blueface]

I tell her all the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did she say?

[Blueface]

I'm not a hoe. I wasn't doing this. I wasn't doing that. Shamiah, she got three kids and three baby dads. How you feel about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mistakes happen.

[Blueface]

You feel me? Look, she's. Y' all in the same boat. But for a man, it's different than for a woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Which society says. Yeah. Women are judged at a different level and different standard.

[Blueface]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think that's the case now. Because women have tried to take some of that power. Say, I can do just as what.

[Blueface]

A man can do. Yeah. And that's the me too effect right now. He could do it. I could do it too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wanna heal? You ever gonna be in a situation? Can you ever be in a situation? Where it's just you and your partner.

[Blueface]

Yeah, if I have a partner, that's so I feel like it takes a partner to make you better. You know, it takes them dealing with some shit and still being a good example for you to. You know, I don't think men meet women and don't cheat on them. You know, like, it takes her to like deal with you cheating and then you realize you really hurting her feelings and she's being enduring it and taking it like a real woman for you to stop. Mm. What do you think? Everybody's got somebody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody got somebody.

[Blueface]

Yeah. Like priority.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Blueface]

Everybody's got a number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Everybody has somebody. Just to what extent? My grandpa used to say that. He was a firm believer. Everybody has somebody. It's just to what extent? Married, fiance, you know, hookups, Nicki, whatever the case may be. Everybody has somebody. It's just to what extent?

[Blueface]

Exactly. So it takes a strong individual to get you off of those people. It takes them to deal with it, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Together is the best place to be at Starbucks. Hey, man, you okay? You can't get mad?

[Blueface]

Yeah, like can't get mad but they not dealing with it. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Blueface]

It's not gonna stop you. If I cheat on you and you cheat back, we even.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She got her lick back, we even.

[Blueface]

Now you can't be mad and I can't be mad. So now I'm about to go somebody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, you try to keep, but you try to stay one up.

[Blueface]

No, no, no. It's not that I'm staying one up. It's just. You're not feminizing me. But it takes a woman to, like, get your feelings, you know, Women win the feeling game, they don't win the me too game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But here's the thing.

[Blueface]

If a woman can't penetrate your feelings, she don't really mean nothing to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well. Cause you're not investing anything into that woman. So therefore you're not gonna invest because you don't wanna get hurt.

[Blueface]

I've invested in all of my women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you ain't investing nothing. You ain't investing no more time where you can stop by and drop the package off and move on.

[Blueface]

No, I didn't really build these women up, man. Like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'S your most valuable possession?

[Blueface]

Probably my dick. Ain't gonna lie, man. Ain't gonna lie. That's the only thing I can hold every night. Feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was hoping you say the restaurant.

[Blueface]

It's the only thing you can hold every night. When that restaurant gone, Shannon. I still got my dick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The restaurant ain't gonna be gone. You say it's doing good.

[Blueface]

I'm saying if I lose it all tonight, I still got my dick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Blueface]

That's real shit. That's not valuable, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Blueface]

I mean, hey, what's your most valuable possession?

[Shannon Sharpe]

My family.

[Blueface]

You don't really possess that, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

[Blueface]

I'm sensing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't really have anything. Like super bowl rings and things like that I don't really value. It was great. That's an accomplishment, and I'm very proud of what I was able to accomplish. But I don't really look at that. I mean, the thing that means the most to me. I guess I should have asked what means the most to you?

[Blueface]

Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause that would hurt me the most if I were to lose as a family. I don't care nothing about no super bowl rings, no Jersey, no all the.

[Blueface]

I think if you lost your dick, it would hurt a little bit more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Blueface]

I'm just saying, brother. Hear what I'm saying. If you was walking around here with no dick, would you want to Live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a man. I'mma feel some kind of way, but I ain't trying to leave here.

[Blueface]

You can live with everything but your dick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can live without that, too.

[Blueface]

No, you can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think?

[Blueface]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if it went away, you don't want to live?

[Blueface]

No. Hell, no. Anybody else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. You by yourself? Hey, I'm gonna go get breakfast every morning. Nobody gotta know. But I ain't finna off myself because I ain't got no package.

[Blueface]

Nah, I ain't gonna off myself. But I'm saying I ain't gonna be happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's okay.

[Blueface]

I mean, we ain't come off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta work with other things.

[Blueface]

We ain't come all this way to not be happy, Shannon. We ain't putting all this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta work with other things.

[Blueface]

All them practices, man, we ain't got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just work with other things. You got hands, you know? Work with other things. Keep yourself happy. Man, I can't believe you, bro.

[Blueface]

I can't believe you telling me you walk around here with no dick and be fine with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't tell you that.

[Blueface]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm sure there are people in the world that you know, but let me ask you a question. What if you had one, but it didn't work?

[Blueface]

Is that because I used it up or I'm older?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It doesn't matter. It doesn't work. It don't matter if the car got 700,000 miles on it, it just won't crank anymore, or you got a lemon. It don't matter.

[Blueface]

We gonna keep it in the shop, man. We gonna keep. We gonna stay under the hood. We gonna keep, baby, baby, just keep sucking, baby. I don't know what's going on. This motherfucker gonna work one day. I ain't gonna give up, though. I ain't gonna give up on my dick. Shannon. I see my dick ain't never gave up on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why'd you make your page private when you got out of prison?

[Blueface]

Um, I don't know. I kinda wanted to be private.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you private? You stay out all the time. Everybody see your ass.

[Blueface]

I know. That's why I took it off. I thought about it and I was like, damn, you know, people can't tag you and shit, put you on their story and whatnot. I was like, it probably wouldn't be as beneficial as I thought.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What have you learned about fame?

[Blueface]

I learned that gotta. Gotta know how to manage it, you know? Gotta learn how to. When you log out those apps. Log out of that, you know Log out of that state of mind when you go home, you're not famous, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is fame addictive?

[Blueface]

Yeah, probably. I notice a lot of people, like, when they get a little buzz, a little moment, they, like, harp on it. So clout's definitely addicting. It's a hell of a drug.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What would you do if you weren't famous? If you walked out of here today and for the next. For the rest of your life, nobody knew who you were. You were just some guy walking down the street. How would you feel?

[Blueface]

If I had money, I'd be happy. But if I was broke, I wouldn't be happy. Like, if I could have the money without the fame. Yeah. You take the fortune that much, be a better life. Mm. For sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said you're never going back to prison again. How do you want to be remembered when it's all said and done 50, 60 years from now? How do you want people to remember Blueface?

[Blueface]

Just real, you know, I admire him just being real. Just keeping it real. Not necessarily like a overly. You know, just enough to where it's like, all right, he ain't lying. If he said happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I believe. I believe everything you said.

[Blueface]

That's how I would've gone. And if Blueface said that shit, it happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw the viral video of you telling DDG giving him advice about kids.

[Blueface]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause he had a similar situation with his child's mother. You know, he was going back and forth. Hopefully everything got resolved with that. But what were you hoping to accomplish? What were you trying to accomplish in that situation?

[Blueface]

What, telling them? Yeah, just being honest with them. You know, the truth. Like I said, if anybody's living the truth and they can guide the next person, that's a great thing, you know, whether it's good or bad. Like, if you can. Hey, look, man, I know you think it's gonna be like this, but this is my experience. And, you know, experience is the best teacher. Yeah, absolutely. So. So if you could tell somebody your experience and they still go through with it. I told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it has to be a lesson learned through that experience.

[Blueface]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because action without consequences, no lesson can be learned, no matter the experience. If there's not a lesson learned.

[Blueface]

Yeah, I agree. I learned all my lessons. I ain't no dummy, man. As soon as I peep it, I learned it. Right. You know, I have a habit of breaking things down a little too much to where? I wanna know why you do the things you do, right? What makes you do it? Why'd you. What did he Say why you care? It's cause I like to know what made you, what made you, what got you, you know? Not necessarily to be mad about it, just to know, like, okay, you be asking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet he wouldn't be saying he be asking. He be asking some weird ass questions.

[Blueface]

I like to study people body language, you know, patterns. Okay. You got a tendency to do this more than that. When I say this, you react to it like that. Feel me when I'm you reacting like this? All right. You know, I don't know. I just like to. I pay attention. How many rings you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three.

[Blueface]

That's nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What year we went back to back? 97, 98. And then I went to the rings and then we won 2000.

[Blueface]

That's how long it's been. Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've been retired. Coming on 20. Over 20 years. Two decades.

[Blueface]

Martin Luther King was at your game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Martin Luther King actually died a couple of months before he was assassinated. A couple of months before I was born.

[Blueface]

Frederick Douglass was at the game and all that. Who you was playing with back then. You had a leather helmet on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just can't believe you, blueface. I mean, we had a good interview with this man out the rip.

[Blueface]

I don't know what get you, man. You been keeping it a little too pee for the interview, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What, two women, three women, four women.

[Blueface]

All of this great things instilled in you. Why you ain't married?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why I'm not married. You a one woman man. You know what? Let me tell you why. Because when I was playing, football was the most important thing and I was never. Because I was never gonna. I could never give her what I gave football. And it's hard. And so I started in television and I worked and worked and worked, and I could never give somebody the attention, the focus, the love that I gave tv because I wasn't good at TV at first. I had to get good and I had to work and work and work and work and work. And that's been my biggest problem. Because what I worked at to be good at football, what I worked at to be good at media, I never put that kind of same time into a woman.

[Blueface]

How old are you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

57.

[Blueface]

So basically, what I'm gathering from this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is what you gather.

[Blueface]

Cheated yourself out of life, 57 years, you ain't experienced. You ain't experienced half the shit I experienced. Supposed to have a picket fence with the kids in a dalmatian somewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I still have that. When I'm gonna be mad, I give myself, you know what?

[Blueface]

So you looking for somebody to take change your diapers?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't need no hospice wife.

[Blueface]

That's what I'm saying. You giving all the fun years away to nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have given a lot of years. Cause I don't take vacations.

[Blueface]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't do a whole lot.

[Blueface]

Yeah, yeah, you true.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'mma change. I'mma change.

[Blueface]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

26. 26.

[Blueface]

We change together, Blueface. We gonna change together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I'm going somewhere. I'm going on vacation. I'm going to an island. Ain't nobody gonna know. It ain't gonna be on the Internet, right?

[Blueface]

You gonna have a lady with you? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think I'm going to a damn island by myself? Well, you talking I'm cast away.

[Blueface]

I don't know. I don't know who want to be, you know, with a 57 year old man on the island.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know there are few, but I got one. Why you asking me all these questions?

[Blueface]

You asked me a hundred questions, baby mamas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you came to club Shay said.

[Blueface]

That'S what happened to club shape Prison. All I can't get to know Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Grinding on Shay Shay, call me out.

[Blueface]

I'm gonna call you. I'm call you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Blue face. Ladies and gentlemen.

[Blueface]

All my life been grinding all my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price wanna.

[Blueface]

Slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life look all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line.

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There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

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[Blueface]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Chessman butter cookies, so buttery.

[Blueface]

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[Blueface]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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