Club Shay Shay - Claressa Shields Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Claressa Shields (Part 2)

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: Claressa Shields
Date: November 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe sits down for part two of an in-depth conversation with undisputed women's boxing champion Claressa Shields. The pair cover a wide spectrum: Shields' experiences with body image and public perception, her perspective on money, family, and legacy, rivalries in and out of the ring, crossover combat opportunities, social media challenges, her personal life, and her views on women's sports and self-worth. Shields’ wit, candor, and unapologetic confidence shine as she shares her journey and sets the record straight on several hot topics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pressure, Body Image, and Judgement in the Public Eye

• Facing Body Shaming & Cosmetic Surgery Pressure (02:42)
  • Claressa addresses recent pressures she has faced over her body, discussing both societal and industry expectations.
  • She has been told to get cosmetic surgeries to fit a certain appearance, but she remains unapologetically herself.
  • Quote: "I think my face is perfect. But these are just haters." (Claressa, 02:40)
  • She talks about rumors surrounding athletes getting body-enhancing surgeries and prefers self-improvement through training, sharing her fear of needles and surgeries.

2. Career Ambitions & Rivalries

• Making Boxing History & Managing Money (05:05)

  • Claressa reflects on becoming the first woman to earn a million dollars from a boxing match and discusses her purchases and financial prudence.
    • Quote: "I went and bought the Camaro. I went and got my kitchen redone in my house. That was in Flint." (05:51)
  • She addresses pressure from family and learning to say "no," choosing to save for her future and her niece and nephews.

• Possible Fights and Weight Classes (04:25; 04:33)

  • Shields is open to dropping weight classes to collect more belts, unconcerned with titles currently held by others—unless they call her out.

• Rivalry with Laila Ali (11:47–17:11)

  • Claressa clarifies that her much-publicized rivalry with Laila Ali stems from Ali’s public assertions of dominance, not generational disrespect.
    • Quote: "She said she can beat me. I said she can't. We should fight. That's it." (Claressa, 15:56)
  • Shields claims she’s not pursuing the fight for clout but as a matter of competitive pride, and feels the drama is blown out of proportion.

3. Boxing, MMA, Business, and Crossover Fighting

• Transitioning to and from MMA (08:52–10:26)

  • Shields discusses her 2–1 MMA record and why, despite proving herself, she prefers boxing due to higher earnings and her ability.
    • Quote: "I made millions to do a job that I'm the greatest at." (Claressa, 09:06)

• Prospects for WWE (10:34)

  • Expresses interest in WWE, sharing her connections with top women wrestlers and hinting at possible crossover opportunities.
    • Quote: "Me and Bianca said that we're gonna do something one day. So, yeah, I know that I'm gonna have a life in WWE." (10:34)

• Crossover Fight Discussions (Jake Paul, YouTubers, etc.) (18:49–31:15)

  • Shields jokes about wanting to spar Jake Paul, asserting her willingness to face cross-industry challengers if the opportunity is right.
  • Analyzes the Tank Davis vs. Jake Paul fight prospect, weighing size and skills.

4. Boxing Legacy vs. Money

• Debting Boxing’s Direction and Legacy (25:20–29:45)

  • Shields and Sharpe lament that fighters today chase money over legacy, unlike past generations. Shields notes for women, "Legacy is what pays the bills."
  • Critiques social media-driven hype versus tangible achievements.
    • Quote: "Real life matters. Stuff you can touch, tangible. Yes, it matters." (Claressa, 28:15)

• Upcoming Fights & Paydays (89:13)

  • Announces plans for a major fight January 24th at State Farm Arena, Atlanta, against Franchón Crews, re-signing for $8 million.

5. Inside the Sport: Health, Training, and Sacrifice

• Injuries and Training Through Adversity (80:22–82:09)

  • Describes fighting with significant injuries, particularly a frozen shoulder, and the extreme commitment needed due to the scarcity of high-stakes opportunities in women’s boxing.
    • Quote: "I don't blow opportunities. So with that, I fought through that one unanimously." (Claressa, 81:34)

• Making Weight and Nutrition (82:09–84:33)

  • Shares her disciplined approach to weight cuts, utilizing a full nutrition team and focusing on year-round healthy habits to avoid drastic cuts and fatigue.
  • Cautions about risks of severe dehydration in weight cuts that can leave fighters "in the ring at 50%, 40%." (84:33)

• Views on Abstinence and Fight Preparation (86:09–88:59)

  • Claims she abstains from sex six weeks before fights for focus and peak performance, based on her own experience with training fatigue.

6. Women, Image, and Social Media

• Social Media's Double-Edged Sword (52:16–56:00)

  • Shields shares challenges with trolls and especially negativity from other women online, noting men tend to be more supportive.
    • Quote: "Men love me on social media ... I don't know what done got into these women, but they are the problem." (Claressa, 52:33)
  • She discusses detoxing from social media, being viral for random things, and choosing to ignore haters.

• Beauty and Authenticity in the Ring (55:02–56:08)

  • Discusses expectations for appearance and how she strips down to her authentic self before a fight:
    • Quote: "As soon as we get in the locker room, I grab my makeup wipe ... I wipe it all off, right? Eyebrows, lashes, edges. I wipe it all off. Take the wig off and everything. It's time to fight." (Claressa, 56:00)

7. Personal Life and Relationships

• Future Family Plans (07:28; 58:16–60:07)

  • Shields hopes to have children soon, inspired by athlete-mothers like Serena Williams.
  • Plans to keep training while pregnant: "I feel like when I'm carrying, I'M gonna be in the gym working out still, because I don't want to lose everything that I got." (60:07)

• Romance and Privacy (61:41–73:06)

  • Details her relationship with Pap—how it began organically through friendship, built through texting and mutual admiration.
  • She laughs about refusing to date athletes or celebrities, only to wind up with a well-known rapper.
  • Maintains she doesn’t want a partner “up under” her all the time, needing mutual independence for her career.

8. Music & Culture

• Music and Fight Preparation (74:50–80:16)

  • Shares how her pre-fight playlist depends on her mood—gospel to calm nerves, trap rap to hype up, always artists who make her feel empowered.
  • Dream walkout: "Beyoncé walked me out to the fight. My life is complete." (79:40)

• Cultural Impact & Visibility (73:11; 74:26)

  • Talks about singing at a Summer Walker concert and her desire to do Sports Illustrated's Swimsuit Edition.

9. Behind the Scenes: Coaches & Sparring

• On Loyalty and Changing Coaches (91:52–95:08)

  • Explains the emotional difficulty of changing coaches, comparing personal loyalty to that of a familial bond, and sharing her dislike for betrayal.

• Sparring the Best (Sparring Men) (95:14–98:01)

  • Shields prefers sparring men ("the good ones") to test her skills at a higher level.
  • Names Errol Spence and Shakur Stevenson as her toughest sparring partners:
    • Quote: "Can I hit Shakur? Can't hit him. I'm like ... I could not catch this man." (Claressa, 97:57)
  • Shares that sparring men keeps her sharper and better prepared for elite competition.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I gotta get all the fighting out of me before I stop fighting or I'll be in jail." (Claressa, 08:10)
• "I just know that for my next fight, I'm gonna cut up. I'm gonna come more." (04:18)
• "Women’s boxing, you don’t make no money unless you got legacy." (26:44)
• "If she think that she can just come out of retirement after not fighting all these years and beat me, she in for a rude awakening." (15:56)
• "After the fight, I take care of the injuries. You know what I'm saying? I do what I have to do to get through the fight—as most fighters do." (80:44)
• "Men love me on social media ... I don't know what done got into these women, but they are the problem." (52:33)
• "I am a disguised killer." (Claressa, 58:15)
• "I'm not ever gonna let an enhancement stop me from performing my job. My job is to whoop ass." (56:02)

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Key Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |-----------|----------------| | 02:42 | Pressure for cosmetic surgery & body image | | 05:05 | Becoming the first female boxing millionaire, financial habits | | 11:47 | Laila Ali rivalry, backstory and Shields' POV | | 25:20 | Boxing legacy vs. money, generational changes | | 31:15 | Evaluating boxing vs. crossover fights (Jake Paul, etc.) | | 38:16 | Bud Crawford's greatness and his fight with Canelo | | 52:33 | Social media: negativity, women critics vs. men, coping | | 55:02 | Shields’ “realness” on fight night and makeup authenticity | | 58:16 | Family and having kids while maintaining a career | | 61:41 | Relationship with Pap, public vs. private romance | | 74:50 | Singing at Summer Walker concert | | 79:40 | Dream walkout artist: Beyoncé | | 80:22 | Training with & through injuries | | 83:00 | Making weight safely in boxing | | 86:09 | Abstaining from sex before fights—practice & rationale | | 91:52 | Wanting her biopic to showcase her grown-up, post-Fame life | | 95:14 | Sparring men for better preparation, listing partners |

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Conclusion

Through candid storytelling and quick-fire exchanges, Claressa Shields offers fans a compelling look at life as an elite athlete: the victories, the scrutiny, the drive for legacy, and the deeply personal choices behind the public persona. Whether breaking barriers in the ring, mentoring the next generation, or choosing authenticity online and off, Shields remains a model for resilience and ambition in women’s sports—with plenty more history yet to make.

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Transcript

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[Claressa Shields]

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[Claressa Shields]

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[Interviewer/Host]

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[Claressa Shields]

This past year with all the judging and all the people trying to say that I'm fat or trying to body shame me or whatever. Because in camp I. I got a six pack and I'M really, you know, cut up and stuff. But then out of camp, I don't mind having a little stomach or whatever. I don't mind. I don't mind that. But when I see people judging me and saying that I should get stuff done, people say I should get my nose done, which I think my face what I think my face is perfect. But these are just haters. You gotta understand people saying this stuff. But with me, I would love to. I heard that when you go and get these body surgeries done that sometime you go on there, they fix your body up and get. And get the fat off, and then you come back and you 30 pounds smaller, but you gotta let your body heal for months or whatever the case may be.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And you. Me hearing that be like, ain't gotta work out to lose 30 pounds, but I can go down a few more weight classes and win some more titles. But. But in my mind, it's like I'd rather work it off.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, and do that instead of being cut on and whatever the case. Cause I'm really scared of knives and needles. I don't know how I got tattoos, but I'm really scared of that. So that's the pressure there when they come judging you about your size. But I'm happy with my size. That's why it doesn't bother me. It don't bother me. But these girls be looking cut up. They gonna get their abs done now.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, girls don't even work out be having better abs than me, and I'd be like, golly, what's going on? But then, you know, you got these filters and everything else. They do body shaping, whatever. And I've always been just a person, just to give it to you how it is.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to continue to be like that. I just know that for my next fight, I'm going to cut up. I'm going to come more.

[Interviewer/Host]

So what weight?

[Claressa Shields]

I believe 175.

[Interviewer/Host]

175. So you gonna. I mean, or. Or you only 185.

[Claressa Shields]

That's 10 pounds or 168. Because they got some girls who got belts down there you want to take.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you don't want nobody to have no belts.

[Claressa Shields]

No, they can have some just if they call me out, I'm like the boogey one when I show up. Some girls been calling me out, but I've already called them out before, but they didn't want to fight. But now I guess they want to Fight now.

[Interviewer/Host]

So they got courage now, honey.

[Claressa Shields]

Liquor courage, I guess. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

You're the first woman to make a million dollars from a boxing match. When you got that money, what was the first thing you did? You buy something special for yourself, you get something real nice.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, one, just to give you just a little history.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

When I lost right before the Olympic tournament in China, I lost to Savannah Marshall.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

See, God got a funny way of humor. Because I made my first million beating up who? Savannah Marshall. And I beat her up in the UK in front of 20,000 of her fans in the UK at the O2 Arena. And I made a million bucks. Left with a black eye, but she left with her face marked up, no belt.

[Interviewer/Host]

You lumped up, huh?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah, I lumped her up pretty good. But she was a knockout artist too, though. 13 and 0, 12 knockouts, whatever. I went there and showed her how to really fight. So with that, when I got my first million, I think I went and bought me a Camaro. A 2022.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't think I spent a lot of money like that. I'm more of a saver. So I went and bought the Camaro. I went and got my kitchen redone in my house. That was in Flint.

[Interviewer/Host]

You was practical. I said you was practical with your money.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I didn't just like splurge. I've always helped family with this or with that. But I probably spent out of that million. I probably spent like maybe 70, 80k the first month or two. And then after that I kind of put the rest of the money up.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right. But you know, when you get money, you know, that brings a lot. That brings a lot. Especially family. I come from a family that, you know. Hey, I'm very fortunate that my brother played. There's only three. Three of us, me and my brother, my sister, you know.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. You just helped induct him in a hall of fame. Right. I saw that. I saw that.

[Interviewer/Host]

But it's hard because they see. And then everybody got this idea. They got a business, they want to open up a business. They need X, Y and Z. I'm like, bro. So how hard is it? How hard is it to say, no.

[Claressa Shields]

He'S not hard now.

[Interviewer/Host]

But it was at first, though.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, it was very hard at first. Because you feel like you want to help everybody and you want to believe in everybody dreams, you know? But it just was like, ah, nah. Now I'm saving my money for my future family and also too. So my sister has three kids.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And me and my sister are Very close to her. Kids are like my kids, like you kids. So I gotta make sure that I got, you know, college money for them.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

So when it comes to that, I haven't had my own kids yet, but when I do, they're gonna fall right in line with that. And kids are expensive.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. And you want 10 of them?

[Claressa Shields]

Nah, I just want four.

[Interviewer/Host]

Now you still realize that's still a lot of kids in today's time.

[Claressa Shields]

Hey, I got a seven bedroom house 30 minutes from here. I think we'd be all right.

[Interviewer/Host]

You gotta put kids in all the.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, we gonna have kids. You know, one of the kids can be in the room right there next to mine. And the other room, and the other room, they didn't go downstairs. Another room down there. So yeah, it's fine, I don't mind it.

[Interviewer/Host]

But I mean, at some point. How old are you now?

[Claressa Shields]

30.

[Interviewer/Host]

30?

[Claressa Shields]

Mm.

[Interviewer/Host]

I mean, so at some point in time it's going, you gonna have to start, you know, thinking about it like, okay, gloves, hanging the gloves up.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

But I don't know, you gonna have babies and come back and fight?

[Claressa Shields]

Yes. I gotta get all the fighting out of me before I stop fighting or I'll be in jail. Yes. Like right now I'm in a space to where I like to still, to still fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, I feel like in my career, like, yes, I've won 19 world championships, yes, I've five different weight classes, four time undisputed, all this stuff, but it's like it's still some butt out there need to get kicked, you know, and it's like, I want to kick these girls butt. And then I think everything. Then I can maybe train some kids. Cause I'm training my niece right now and my nephews. So it's like I can train some kids and kind of live through them, but right now I'm living through myself. And these girls can get it right now.

[Interviewer/Host]

You tried mma? You said MMA tried it.

[Claressa Shields]

I was good at it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, but you're two in one.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, you're two in one. Uh huh.

[Interviewer/Host]

Would you try it again? Would you go back into it again or you good with the boxing? You gonna stick with the boxing?

[Claressa Shields]

Well, I made millions to do a job that I'm the greatest at.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

So I'm not going back to man, I will only make it 200k, which is, it's a lot.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, but 200k ain't more than a million.

[Claressa Shields]

And I had to train six months for each fight. So take time away from my Family. Just six months of nothing but groundwork to get ready for one fight. Listen, mma. I give it out to them girls. Y' all got it. Y' all got it. If y' all want to see me kind of boxing. But I went over there and I fought under their rules. I was able to win two fights, and I lost one split decision. I got me a knockout over there, but, hey, and I got some of the best fans, too.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

But it's just. It's not enough time today. Had I started training when I was.

[Interviewer/Host]

17 at the same age that you started boxing.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, I started doing MMA training at the age of 11, like I did boxing. Oh, man.

[Commercial Announcer]

What?

[Claressa Shields]

You crazy? I think I would. I always say all I need is two years of nothing but MMA training. Nothing but just. No, like, no boxing. Nothing but MMA training and sparring and fighting. I believe that I could win a MMA championship either in the PFL or the.

[Interviewer/Host]

Or the ufc.

[Claressa Shields]

Or the ufc, but I don't have two years to do that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. What about wwe? Would you do wwe?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Bianca and J. Cargill, them all my girls, Trinity. I'm in contact with all them girls. Me and Bianca said that we're gonna do something one day. So, yeah, I know that I'm gonna have a life in mma. I don't know how long, but I know that it's possible. I actually have an interview with Stephanie McMahon four days up in New York. So I look forward to seeing her there and maybe we can get something together. She actually gifted me a WWE belt.

[Interviewer/Host]

Wow.

[Claressa Shields]

I have one in my house.

[Interviewer/Host]

You see a lot of mma fighters. Conor McGregor, the most noted. I mean, fought Floyd $100 million, and we see some of these MMA fighters wanting to do boxing because the money obviously ain't no boxing going to MMA under their rules. It's a whole different ball game over there. It's a lot easier for a boxer, for an MMA fighter to do boxing.

[Claressa Shields]

Than I feel like it's easier. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. How big of a payday do you think you can get in women's boxing? I know the fight that you want. I know the fight that you want. And you believe you could get 15, 20 million dollars more than that. But why you wanna beat up she 47?

[Claressa Shields]

No, I wanna get something clear. Like I was telling you from the beginning, you talk trash to me, I talk trash to you. I feel like we should fight. She has said plenty of times that she feels she can knock me out. I'm not skilled enough, I'm not talented enough, whatever. Right?

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

And she can feel that way. But when you say it and you. And then you say it with such conviction. Right? And you're just. And I definitely knock her out. Right? She can't do this. She can't do that. She's not this. She's not that. All I'm saying is I think we should prove it. I don't think it should be a thing of a diss back and forth. No, it's more of a. I think I'm better than you. You think you better than me?

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, let's prove it.

[Claressa Shields]

How the heck.

[Interviewer/Host]

Somebody gotta be right, somebody gotta be wrong.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. And she the one said that she would make the fight happen. That she said if the money was there, the fight could happen. But honestly, too, I got bigger fish to fry than Laila. Right? But it's more of I entertained the fight because she said she would be me. It's not me calling her out because, oh, she's old and all that stuff. It was like, wait a minute. She said she knocked me out. She said she a better fighter than me. That's what that was. And she said she can come out of retirement and she could do it. So all I'm saying is it's been.

[Interviewer/Host]

Two decades probably since he fought, right? At least a decade and a half.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, but when I'm retired, a decade and decade and a half, you're not gonna hear me saying how I can beat these young girls unless I'm ready to come back out to do it. So that's my thing. People think it's about something else. It ain't about nothing else but that. She says she can beat me. I said she can't. We should fight. That's it. I don't think it should go.

[Interviewer/Host]

You ain't finna keep going back and forth. Are you done with it? Are you done with the verbal sparring?

[Claressa Shields]

No, I think that I haven't seen the latest stuff, whatever that stuff is that she did. I heard about it. I haven't seen it. I've been focused on. As you know, I'm a free agent, right? And I've been focused on locking in my next deal for my next couple of fights for millions of dollars. I'm trying to lock that in. I've been negotiating with people who. Anybody you can think of who got boxing money, seeing who's coming with the best deal and the best opportunity for me and my family. So I haven't been paying attention to that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, I mean, she.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm making a big announcement that you.

[Interviewer/Host]

Were, you know, she was a role model of yours, and she's giving you some great advice about how to build your brand and things like that. She posted things, and you were very complimentary of her. You were. And I don't know where the split and the animosity or acrimony or whatever term you want to use, I don't know where it came from. You said that. She said that you weren't that. I think you said that something she wasn't. That you weren't that skilled, and she would do X, Y and Z and she could beat you.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. But like I said, I think a Breakfast Club interview, they asked her when she came out of retirement, and she said, there's no one who inspires me or who would give me a good challenge. So she wasn't just talking about me. She's talking about everybody who's boxing. She's saying, listen, there's a lot of girls there. They are good, but none of them are good enough to give me a good challenge for me to come back out of Richmond.

[Interviewer/Host]

But you right now, you the Michael Jordan, the boxing.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, tell her that. But I wasn't supposed to take that any kind of way. That's what you said that she said that I took wrong.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh.

[Claressa Shields]

Which you was like, how can I take that wrong? You said it.

[Interviewer/Host]

You the LeBron James of boxing.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. And you said, there's nobody good enough that can give you a challenge to make you.

[Interviewer/Host]

You say, I can't even give you a challenge, let alone be. You say, I can't even challenge you. And I got all these belts. I'm undisputed in three divisions.

[Claressa Shields]

So back then, whenever that interview was, which was years and years and years ago, that is what started it. And all I did was say, like, if she think that she can just come out of retirement after not fighting me, after not fighting all these years and beat me, she in for a rude awakening.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

And at this time, I loved her. You know what I'm saying? And I had her phone. I had her number in my phone as big sis, Layla. So it's like now, at this point, I'm 30 years old now. I think this beef has been going on since I was 23, 24.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. I think it's time to put it to bed. Y' all ain't gonna fry.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, listen, I'm cool with that. It's other. I got bigger fish to fry. Who's actually active, who actually wanna get in the ring? Did I say active already? Like, these girls really want to fight, right? And right now I'm like the cash cow. So you fight against me, you get paid the most money that you ever got paid.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

Right. And I'm trying to make the most money. So I don't really care about a fight with me and her. I just called her bluff when she said the 15 million, I just made sure that we had it. And I said, hey, we got it. What's up? And then I guess that's what led to this latest thing. People told me that it was a hate documentary, and I haven't listened to it yet. And I don't think that I am gonna listen to it because I have better things to do with my time. But other than that, listen, I ain't got nothing against her, man. I don't. I just don't think that she can beat me in a fight. And she thinks that she can and ain't never gonna be able to happen because.

[Interviewer/Host]

Because as time goes by, she's getting older. And you know, you're gonna wanna sit down, settle down. You say you don't mind. You know, you would come back and fight after you have kids, but if she's getting older, she ain't go fighting in no 50.

[Claressa Shields]

Question.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes, ma'.

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[Claressa Shields]

Ocho say, Shannon, I got 15 million for you to fight against me in the ring. What you gonna say to Ocho?

[Interviewer/Host]

It might just be nightcap with Unk.

[Claressa Shields]

But I'm saying you either got a yes, yes, or no. You don't got all this, but.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oo, but. Oh, see, but see, I think the.

[Claressa Shields]

Thing is, who you got beef with somebody who? Somebody you don't like. You don't go on the bus.

[Interviewer/Host]

I don't wanna say, but they know.

[Claressa Shields]

Okay, all right, so they know. So this person come and say for.

[Interviewer/Host]

Free, there ain't gonna be no money. Ain't no need, no money.

[Claressa Shields]

Okay? So this person come and say, hey, man, I got 15 million for me and you to fight. What you gonna say?

[Interviewer/Host]

I fight you for $15 cent? Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, that's how easy I feel like this conversation was. I don't think all the extra stuff and whatever is. Is needed, right? Honestly.

[Interviewer/Host]

Who's an exhibition fight that we can get Clarissa to fight? Who in an exhibition? We can get somebody.

[Claressa Shields]

It's hard to make exhibition fights in women's boxing, man. It's hard because these, you know, you're not going to get a YouTuber who just be fighting on the Internet. And then she gonna come and fight against me, right? Because my accolade and you know who I am. You know, I feel like everybody is out to protect their brand type of deal. So I don't. I don't know. I wanted to fight against Amanda Nunes in boxing. Yeah, I feel like that would be a great fight. Yeah, right.

[Interviewer/Host]

Christine Cyborg.

[Claressa Shields]

Who?

[Interviewer/Host]

Cyborg who?

[Claressa Shields]

Okay, now let me think about somebody else who I think can actually get inside the ring and like, fight. I look at the cross branding of it. Maybe a baddie. Some of those girls you see fighting on baddies, like Ivory, one of them. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host]

But those girls, they can't bang for real, though, Clarissa? Not. No.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, now who can bang like me in boxing?

[Interviewer/Host]

Like, but I'm just saying, I mean, it's got to be like there's a realistic chance. I ain't saying they can beat you, but it's gotta be more than 20 seconds.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, well, in that case, I don't know up in that case. But I mean, it's girls who I think about. Like I said, Amanda Nunes.

[Interviewer/Host]

What if we get a YouTuber guy? That's not Jake Paul. What if we get a YouTube guy?

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, yeah, of course, of course. Hold on, sorry. Of course, Jake. Listen, Jake Paul can always get it. I always tell him that. He can always get it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Why would you try to fight a man He's £200, Jake.

[Claressa Shields]

He talk too much, that's why. Listen, Jake Paul know that I won't smoke with him. I told him that. Listen, listen, me and him could just spar. We ain't even got to fight with no cameras. I just want to show him. Look what I. Look what I'll do to you, big man.

[Interviewer/Host]

You upset that Javante is gonna fight Jake Paul?

[Claressa Shields]

I'm not upset about that.

[Interviewer/Host]

You think he should fight him?

[Claressa Shields]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

Get the bag, get the money.

[Claressa Shields]

But I always think he should fight against Lamont Roach and Shakur and Tio and Devin Haney.

[Interviewer/Host]

Do you believe Lamont Roach beat Javonte.

[Claressa Shields]

Now? If you count the knockdown, yeah. I would say the fight should have went the other way.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

But the fight, if you want to give it a draw, I feel like Lamont took his foot off the gas at the end. So I'm not mad about the decision, but the thing is, I want people to understand about my take on Tank is this. I'm a boxer, but I'm a boxing fan.

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[Claressa Shields]

I just wanna see you fight against the best dudes. I wanna see you fight against a dude who disrespected you, who talk bad about you, who you know who said that you ain't that good. Go in there and prove your greatness. That's all it is with me. I don't really have nothing against Tang. Like, we had a back and forth probably about a year ago or something like that, but that's like, I've been knowing him since I was a kid. Since we were like 16, 15, you know what I'm saying? So it's nothing like that, you know what I'm saying? People think that I got something against Tank. Like, I think when he came in on social media and I came at him, whatever he said to me, I said bad shit back to him too. So it was a back and forth, but it was more like as far as in now when I say what I'm saying, it's like, Tank is a powerhouse. He's a great fighter. I want him to find a way to manage whatever is going on up here and live out to his legacy.

[Interviewer/Host]

Who? You want him to fight Shakur or you want him to fight him?

[Claressa Shields]

Everybody fight. Listen. Fight Shakur. Fight Teofimo. Fight Devin Haney.

[Interviewer/Host]

Fight Didrema Lopez. I think. Didn't Lomachenko retire?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I haven't heard that. Did he?

[Interviewer/Host]

I think Lomachenko retired.

[Claressa Shields]

Wow.

[Interviewer/Host]

I ain't know that, but that's what I want to see. I miss the glory days where the best fought the best. That's what I miss.

[Claressa Shields]

And I think that if he understands that, he will understand that. It's not a thing about me coming at you, bro. It's a thing about me wanting to see the best fights because I'm a boxing fan and I just want to see it, like, as terrified as I was that Terrence was going up three weight classes to fight against Canelo, I'm like, this is still going to be a good fight because Terrence is Terrence Cross, Bud.

[Interviewer/Host]

Wired differently, though.

[Claressa Shields]

Exactly. So we're just like. But still, though, that's like, you want to see the best fights, and the best fight is that.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what the best fight. He said. In order for me. In order for me to enhance my legacy, there is nobody else from 154 down that I can fight, that can give me what Canelo can give me.

[Claressa Shields]

And it was a hell of a fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

It was.

[Claressa Shields]

I love it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Bud put on the show.

[Claressa Shields]

He did.

[Interviewer/Host]

He put on the show. But that. But these guys. Now, the guys care about the bank. They don't care about legacy. They don't. Because they're not willing to take. They're not willing. Because you know what happens. Floyd, listen, everybody want to be Floyd. Everybody want to retire undefeated.

[Claressa Shields]

I want to be Floyd, but I want to have my legacy intact, too.

[Interviewer/Host]

But they don't.

[Claressa Shields]

They don't. I mean, women's boxing, you don't make no money unless you got legacy.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

Like, I can talk all this. Talk all this trash, call out all these girls and have a. And have a big mouth, but with no accomplishments, they're not gonna pay you. You gotta go out there and get it. So for me, legacy is what. Pay the bills.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

Going chasing the belts, fighting the best competition. That's what pays the bill.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

Like, I believe my next fight deal that I'll be signing is really big. It's really big. And it's in the works right now as we sit here and speak, this deal goes through and everything is the right way. I'll be able to say that everything. Everything paid. Paid off in great dividend. Right. I'll be able to say a lot of things about how much I make my pay, how I made it to here.

[Interviewer/Host]

Like, but you'll also have a legacy.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So people say that they don't care about legacy. It's like. It's really confusing to me. It's like, bro, they don't. Ryan Garcia has never won a title, Right? But they think he can. He tried to go around, and he say all the stuff that he's saying. He say he's such a great fighter, Whatever, whatever. But he's lost. Came back, lost again, Whatever, whatever. He got a huge following, but it's like, at the end of the day, your hardcore following is the sport that you do boxing. So they're gonna start realizing, like, bro, you don't even have A world title.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, you talking, but you ain't. You talking like you a four or five time champ and you're not.

[Claressa Shields]

And you're not. So therefore, now it's time for you to get it. Like either you want to. This whole social media stuff, people got to remember it's fake. Yes, it's fake. Real life matters. Stuff you can touch, tangible. Yes, it matters. So when you got the belts, the gold medals, the, the, the accomplishments, when you done put your hands on them and whoop they ass. That matters. That matters, man. So, so for me, I don't get caught up in an older legacy and who want to. I think that that's to make people not want to trace, not want to chase their dreams as much as they should, because people can say what they want. But Floyd Mayweather got the legacy and the money. Yes, he got the both of them.

[Interviewer/Host]

But Floyd, what? Floyd did the Conor McGregor thing after he became what he became, he wasn't doing it in the prime of his career.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, but that's clear as day. It's very clear.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes, but these guys are willing, like, nah, you know what? I'm in the prime of my career. Let me go fight Jake Paul. And look, he's gonna probably make more money, Clarissa, in this fight than he'd make in his next two or three fights. So I get it, I get it. But I think the thing is it's gonna do harm to his legacy.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, he's fought some championships and stuff, but I think it'll be 20 years from now, everybody will be saying, oh, he didn't fight against Shakur, he didn't fight against Devin, he didn't fight against Teofimo, you know, and.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And that will, I feel like hurt his legacy. But hey, if you say that, it don't matter to him. It don't matter.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, he's like, look, man, I got, I'm gonna have on, I'm gonna have on them, have mink slippers, I'll be good.

[Claressa Shields]

It's not like them girls be saying, like, if I'm gonna cry, like, I wanna cry in the men's.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, those girls, Javante, and he gonna fight Jake. You think Javante can beat Jake?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I think he can beat him, but I think it's gonna be a real like circus clownish kind of fight because not like a clown or whatever. I'm just saying I think the fight gonna be like, nobody can really like.

[Interviewer/Host]

Punch in the head and all judge.

[Claressa Shields]

It because it's like Tank is really short.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And Jake Paul got some height on him. He's bigger. Yeah. Mm. I don't know.

[Interviewer/Host]

I mean, Javante fights at 140, 135.

[Claressa Shields]

Right.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay, so now Jake Paul's at 210, 215.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, it's crazy out here. It's crazy. But I mean, the lack of Jake Paul's skill plus his size and with Tank having a skill that he has and his power, it doesn't equalize the fight, but it make it where it's like, okay, it's not too much of an advantage for, for Jake and not too much of an advantage for Tank. I think Tank overall is the better fighter. He's a way better fighter than Jake Paul. But it's going to be a very awkward fight because the size of his.

[Interviewer/Host]

Like, like £70 is a lot.

[Claressa Shields]

That's like me and you getting in the ring or something. Like, I mean, I got my skill, I have to run circles around you know what I'm saying? Touch you in the stomach a little bit, make you sweat. But it's going to be like, hey, if Shannon catch it with that one and you outta here. So that's kinda how the fight is. When he get close enough to Jake and he hit him, is it gonna be effective? And when Jake just get the swinging and stuff back, what the hell that's gonna do, right? So that is a very awkward fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. The Ryan Garcia Tank fight. If the rehydration clause is in there, do you believe Ryan can beat Tank?

[Claressa Shields]

No, no, I don't think Ryan Garcia can be Tank whether the rehydration clause was in it or not.

[Interviewer/Host]

You know, a lot of people believe. De La Hoya said he believed that Ryan can beat Tank if they didn't have a real hydration clause.

[Claressa Shields]

Very interesting. I mean, he posted it like ain't he signed him. He post said that. But nah, Tank, listen, Tank is a bad man, man. I think the only person who I think can beat Tank in a fight is Shakur Stevenson.

[Interviewer/Host]

You think Shakur can beat him?

[Claressa Shields]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

He can handle that power.

[Claressa Shields]

Yes, he can. He gotta get hit with that power. Yeah, it's hard to hit Shakur.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, it's hard. But you do realize in order to hit somebody, you gotta subject yourself to get hit.

[Claressa Shields]

Hey, did you see Shakur last fight with.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. Oh, he made. The guy was swinging. Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Hey, but he stood right there in the pocket with him. Traded with him.

[Interviewer/Host]

You wanna trade with Tank, he wanna trade with Tank.

[Claressa Shields]

If you keep your hands up and your chin down and you be skillful, but you can't just be out there. Just chin up, and you're not paying attention. But Shakur is tougher than what y' all give him credit for.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay?

[Claressa Shields]

He's very tough. And when I say tough, I don't mean dumb. He's very. He's very tough, and he's mean. He got dimples and stuff. But Shaqor Shaquille smile at you, and you feel like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay. No, Shakur is like that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Floyd, you gonna fight Mike Tyson.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I seen that.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's even more weight disparity.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't know what's going on.

[Interviewer/Host]

Cause Mike. Mike has gotta be 230.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't know how this stuff be happening. You know what I mean?

[Interviewer/Host]

But the money, if it make dollars, it makes sense.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. So what you asking me?

[Interviewer/Host]

You like that? I'm like, damn, it ain't no women out there that I can fight. And get me quick, 10, 15 meals.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, listen, I'm gonna get to the money, but I don't think I'm ever gonna.

[Interviewer/Host]

You want some easy gifts? I'm trying some easy money.

[Claressa Shields]

Hey, it's been easy this far. But I'm trying to figure out, like, women don't do that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know what I'm saying? Even if you offer em a lot of money, like, they're like, I'm not about to. Like, people have to realize that some women have never, ever been into a fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, true.

[Claressa Shields]

Like, you may see these girls fighting on TV or on these shows, but it's women who watch that and be like, I would die before I let somebody. Like. Like, they got girls who will run and try to fight them. Like, they'll run to their car and lock the door.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

So fighting is not something that psychologically everybody can do.

[Interviewer/Host]

You're right.

[Claressa Shields]

And everybody can't deal with an ass whooping either.

[Interviewer/Host]

No.

[Claressa Shields]

So that's what I'm saying. Like, it's different for women. Like, a man can deal with an ass woman better than a woman.

[Interviewer/Host]

They bring that piece with them. Okay, well, ain't nobody taking no ass cut no more.

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[Interviewer/Host]

Clarissa. Guys, it's over. Because the Internet. Yeah, the Internet makes it forever. See, it used to be a time you could take an ass cut and people tell you about it, but now you gotta show it. And I'm gonna be a meme.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

You got somebody got their arm all stiff and they shaking. Oh, no.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. No, I. But that's what I'm saying, for me, up in boxing or whatever. An exhibition fight. Not. Not gonna happen. And you know what? Now that we talking about Mike Tyson versus Floyd. Floyd, we can talk about how when Jake Paul fought against Mike Tyson, right? And it was like the age disparity, like the age difference, I believe. Jake Paul is younger than me.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm 30. What is he, 27?

[Interviewer/Host]

27, yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Somewhere in there.

[Interviewer/Host]

So Mike Tyson's almost 50. If he's. I mean, almost 60, I think he's almost 60. Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah. So with that g. With that age gap, when I. When I hear them talk about me versus Layla, I'd be like, hell, we closer in age than. Than they was.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes, true.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, but I don't think that an exhibition fighter or something like that is ever going to.

[Interviewer/Host]

Can't happen for women.

[Claressa Shields]

And then especially not for me.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

Maybe some other women can do it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, who's not as threatening as me, But I don't think it's gonna happen. But I'm still gonna make a lot of money regardless of that. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

You were at the Bud fight, so you got an opportunity to see Bud up close against Canelo. He put on the clinic.

[Claressa Shields]

Great.

[Interviewer/Host]

He was great. He was all the way in or he was all the way out. He wasn't in between. Hey, twin. He was. He was. He was. Yeah, he was. Bud. Bud. See, Bud has a different mindset. Bud mean, for real. Bud fight. See, Bud grew up in Omaha, and people look at Omaha. No, but Bud was fighting for real. And when I sat down with him in February and he was talking about it, you know, you get a sense, you know, you're sitting across from somebody. And I was like, man, he's like, shannon, he's not that big. He's wide, but he's not that big. He's not overpowered. He ain't like you.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Boxers size people up. Soon as you see him.

[Interviewer/Host]

He absolutely did.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. I do the same thing. I'd be like, okay, I see.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Guess your weight and everything. Boxers are good at that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. And so when he went out there and he's like, hey, people asking me, can I take a punch? Can he take a punch? Has he ever been in someone. Been in the ring with someone as skilled as I am that can put punches together? A, I'm here, here, and now I'm gone.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

And he did. He was in there with Floyd, but Floyd was older than Bud was. They might have been the same age. No, I think Floyd was a little younger than what Bud is now. But Bud Made it look just like Floyd. He made it look easy. I'm not saying it was easy, but the way he. Canelo. Canelo won 68. Nobody's ever unified that division. He got that unified. He got it on lockdown. And what Bud was able to do, as you say, going up three weight classes, I think he proved he's the best in his generation. And it ain't close.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Well, for me, the last couple of years, Bud has always been my number one.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

For the last couple of years.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, it's always been like they say, Usyk and Loma and Canelo, whatever. I've always said that it was. That it was Bud since. Since. Since a couple years ago. Like when he beat Earl Spence. And Earl Spence is a dear brother and. And I love Earl Spence. I went to Olympics with him.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

When I seen what he did to Earl, I was like, whoa.

[Interviewer/Host]

I saw it too.

[Claressa Shields]

I couldn't. I couldn't believe it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, he.

[Claressa Shields]

That.

[Interviewer/Host]

It wasn't. That wasn't even close.

[Claressa Shields]

Nah. You see, but that's the thing. That's when I was like, oh, shoot. So now when I watch both him. I watch a whole. A lot of different stuff. And he's really a mental technician. He learns. I don't even want to tell a secret because. Because I know it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I think it's the same thing with me, though. The same thing. I go in there and I see this and see that, and you let folks get comfortable and then you just had your way with them.

[Interviewer/Host]

I don't know if Canelo was just feeling this type of way. Cause he had lost, but he said Bud, the way Bud did him was worse than what Floyd did. And he believed Bud is a better fighter than Floyd.

[Claressa Shields]

Um, I like when Terrence got asked this, he said Floyd was the best in his generation. I'm the best ninja up in this generation. I love that he said that. Because they both is great fighters. You can't take nothing away from neither one of them.

[Interviewer/Host]

Very different.

[Claressa Shields]

And Canelo got his ass hooked by both of them.

[Odoo Business Software Promoter]

He did.

[Claressa Shields]

Now, if you asking me who did it worse, I think that Terrence put more power on him than what Floyd did. But Floyd boxed. He boxed the hell out of him. He boxed the hell out of him. He couldn't catch him. He couldn't land. And it was a blowout. But it was more of a fight with Terence Crawford. He tried to stand there, tried to punch Crawford. He hit him with some good shots, but Crawford was just.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what I Was impressed with. And I think when he hit Bud and Bud, like, I done been hit harder. Yeah, it was like a light went off in Bud's head. Bud's like, bro, I ain't going nowhere.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. He stayed right there in his face.

[Interviewer/Host]

He said, I'm not going anywhere. And then that was later in the round when he was right there in the pocket and he was like. He was trading with him. I'm like, bud, what are you. We got this. Just, hey, you ain't gotta do this.

[Claressa Shields]

Everybody said that to me and Ben fights. Oh, we got this. No, we don't. You don't know what them judges thinking. We gotta go 12, we gotta go 10 12. No, no, no. I'm about to whoop as much ass as I can. So when that bell ringing and everything is over. Listen, I know I left it all in there and I pieced you up good. That's what you want.

[Interviewer/Host]

That wasn't a 115, 112 fight.

[Claressa Shields]

I thought Bud won eight rounds to four.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes, I said to say that's. I'm being generous. Okay, nine, three. Okay, you want to say eight, four, but ain't no way that's a three point fight.

[Claressa Shields]

Nah, it wasn't. But when you got two competitors, it was like. It wasn't just like. I think toward the end, you just seen Bud just taking off, right? Like he stole the fight in the end. Then you can see Canelo just get defeated. When he tried to touch Bud glove before the corner, I said, oh, shoot.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, now he's showing respect to the smaller man. And I was. But I was really proud of Bud. I ended up flying down to Omaha, Nebraska for his. For his parade. And man, the amount of people that came out for him, it was. It was great to see it because they were. He's been calling out the best and the biggest names for I don't know how long. And they kept overlooking him. Kept overlooking him.

[Interviewer/Host]

They weren't overlooking him. They didn't want them problems.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, the media was painted out to be like, he wasn't a challenge. He was too small. He wasn't this, he wasn't that. And he just kept. He kept doing what he's supposed to do. He made the right fights, he stayed patient. And I don't know, I love that. It's plenty of times where he could have gave up and said, you know what?

[Interviewer/Host]

Later for this.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm two time undisputed champion. Diesels ain't even undisputed, man. He could just went on about his.

[Interviewer/Host]

Career and now he a three division.

[Claressa Shields]

Three times, three way division.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's 40, 47, and 68. When Canelo is the only guy that had ever unified the 68.

[Claressa Shields]

That's cr.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's crazy.

[Claressa Shields]

I told him. I told him it was crazy. But one thing you gotta know, like up in mental warfare, you gotta feed them stuff and see what they grab. I think I saw an interview. He was up in. He was in Saudi, right. He was in Riyadh. And they interviewed him, and they were like, how much you weigh right now? He was like, 155. I know damn well bud wasn't 155. So I texted him when I seen the interview. I copied and pasted. I said, this was a good lie right here. But you feed him that. Yeah, but I knew Bud was bigger than that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

You know what I'm saying? I knew that he had to cut a few pounds himself.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Right. So it was like he did the same thing I did when I went to heavyweight. I had built all the muscle up and got everything proportioned right. And worked with him and carried it, and then I cut down. So he did the same thing.

[Interviewer/Host]

It's a lot easier going from 185, 188 to 168, as opposed to 185, 188 to 147.

[Claressa Shields]

100%. 100%. And I don't think he ever going back down.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, he not. No. Who can he fight that day? I mean, I seen maybe charlo at 60.

[Claressa Shields]

I seen jamel Charlo say he wanted.

[Interviewer/Host]

To fight, but he ain't want to fight it before. Now he done ticket. Let me come eat lunch at your table. Nah. Bud said, nope.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, I'm a boxing fan. I like to see the fight. I think that Terrence will win, but I like to see the fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Bud said, no, no. But I told. I don't know if you saw the interview that I did with Bud. And we was in the ring and we was wrestling, and they said, man, I said, bud stronger than you think. I said, yeah, he's. Yeah, he's short.

[Claressa Shields]

He really strong.

[Interviewer/Host]

He's strong.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

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[Claressa Shields]

He deadlifted like, £400. Just come out straight at the gym. Yeah, that's. That's like. That's crazy strength.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. I said, no, no, no, no. He's strong.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

I said, canelo not gonna be able to push him around now. He's not. I see you.

[Claressa Shields]

Look.

[Interviewer/Host]

I say, I understand. He's fought the majority of his career at 40, 47. And I get it. And he's going up the three weight classes.

[Claressa Shields]

There's a reason why the three weight classes was crazy. I'm not gonna lie. That was wild.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes. I mean, the goal to go. I mean, he. And he had just one fight at 54, and he didn't look that good at 54. He won, but he didn't look that good at54. And to jump 60 and go straight to 68.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Against that guy, I think Madrimoff was a very awkward fighter.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

A very awkward fighter. And as he made the fight awkward, but Terrence still came out on top. I think he won easily, but it was just. When you say he didn't look good, like, he didn't. He wasn't.

[Interviewer/Host]

He didn't look like Buck. He didn't look like. Yeah, yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Like he didn't.

[Interviewer/Host]

Cause, remember, we had just saw him against Earl Spence.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

So we saw one of his most impressive performance and then followed it up with that. And then. And that's where everybody's like, oh, no. You know, he's never been hit by 168. This guy's fought Triple G and he's.

[Claressa Shields]

Fought Big G. I don't believe in that.

[Interviewer/Host]

And Caleb fought Caleb Plant, But Bud is a different animal.

[Claressa Shields]

No, he is.

[Interviewer/Host]

Sportswoman of the Year. Were you upset? People say you were upset the angel won.

[Claressa Shields]

No, I hate people, like, when they spin narratives, that really gets on my nerves. I think that would mean they want to spin everything and make it into something negative. It was my first time being nominated for the Sportswoman of the Year award with bet.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And I just thought that I won it. Yeah, that was it. When I looked at who I was, who I was, who I was up against, I'm like, oh, man. The only one that had Olympic gold medals who was up there was Simone Biles. So I'm like, oh, man. Either she gonna get it or I'm gonna get it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

So it wasn't a thing. A knock to none of those other girls. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Had any of them won? From Flage to Simone? I think it was Coco Golf. There was a couple other girls that was nominated. I just was like, the Olympics is way. It's harder than anything. So when I seen that she won, I was. I think when I made my tweet, it was more of, like, I thought. I thought accolades would matter in this, but once again, that was my first time going to the BET Awards and being there and being invited. So I thought, like, okay, they Seeing my hard work. They seeing what's going on. I'm finna get this award. But it's not knock to angel Reese. Like, I love angel Reese. Right. I like what she doing. I posted her on my page. Before you go Victoria Secret, she is killing it.

[Interviewer/Host]

She walked in Victoria's Secret.

[Claressa Shields]

I seen her.

[Interviewer/Host]

I mean, you. That what you said. You said, you know, you got it like that. You got some.

[Claressa Shields]

I got a body. I got a body. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host]

But okay, so what you trying the way.

[Claressa Shields]

The way that she walked on them heels, you know what I'm saying? I'm have to get. I'm have to get some practice in there. I get some practice. But sometime when your butt's too big and it gets to doing what it's doing, you may.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, I don't know if you could like, you could throw it like that. Cause you might go off my butt.

[Claressa Shields]

Way bigger than angels.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what I'm saying.

[Claressa Shields]

That's what I'm saying. So I would have to try to get my. I think she said walk so stank. Make a hoe mad or something.

[Interviewer/Host]

She said.

[Claressa Shields]

I said this girl crazy.

[Interviewer/Host]

But because the actual Victoria's Secret models, they like, like right here.

[Claressa Shields]

They skinny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, very petite. But I mean, I'm sure I could do something like that. But the first thing I want to do first is I want to do the Sports Illustrated swimwear.

[Interviewer/Host]

You want to do the swimsuit?

[Claressa Shields]

I want to do that. I want to do that first and then work my way into everything.

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, we'll get that out there. We put it out there.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

20, 26.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Sports Illustrated. Clarissa Shields says she wants to do it.

[Claressa Shields]

Make me the COVID baby.

[Interviewer/Host]

Hey, you bitching, like on social media, you hate when women say things because, you know, they tag you in it, so obviously you gonna see it.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. What happened? What?

[Interviewer/Host]

But Clarissa, at this point in time now, you've been at the game long enough to like, no, they was trolling. They rage baiting you.

[Claressa Shields]

I think. I think a lot of folks on social media is jealous and envious and just mad. But once again, I be practicing my trash talk with them. So when I be responding to them, sometimes I be like, let me see what this makes somebody say. Let me see what? So I might go back and forth with them. But trust me, that's. That's after practice, after I've ate, when I'm just in my bed laying down. And a lot of times I'd be right there with Pap and we just be laughing. I'd be like look at this and he like what you say back. And I'm like look. And then we just be crying, laughing like it's ridiculous how much we laugh.

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[Claressa Shields]

This stuff. But that's about it. But. But I'm getting better at, you know, ignoring it. Ignoring it because it's like, I got better things to do, but sometimes be like, oh, no, she didn't come with that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Is it worse with women on social media than it is with men?

[Claressa Shields]

The men love me on social media. Rather that's because of boxing, because of how I look, my shape, my confidence. Men love that, right? I don't know what done got into these women, but they are the problem. They're the. Listen, they are a complete problem. I'd be like, yo, I thought we were in this whole. Me too. And women stick together, you know, uplifted. Yeah. And it was like, I don't know. Once you get. Once you get to a certain level of success, all that changes. Like, I understand why Beyonce don't be. She don't be close to me.

[Interviewer/Host]

Beyonce with nobody.

[Claressa Shields]

Beyonce, listen, you don't get a peep about her. Listen, when I get to that level, they gonna wish I was talking to their ass. Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Beyonce. You either see her withhold. Oh, you don't see bae, you see on the. You see on. On stage, but she don't. You Don't. I mean, she got all these followers. I don't think Beyonce. The only thing she might.

[Claressa Shields]

I think she followed one person. Oh, man. Like, but she. It's just like, she's with that drama. She's so great. Like, she can dance, she can sing, she can rap act. She up there.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

She just be like, mm, mm. So I'll be there one day. I'm working on it.

[Interviewer/Host]

I wonder how she. She can't be. I don't even think, you know what, she might have somebody. She don't even got social media on her phone. And her team don't even bring it to her sometime.

[Claressa Shields]

I deleted it. I delete it off my phone. I get rid of it. Especially when I'm. When I'm in camp.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, because they just make up stuff and they make you go viral for stuff that don't got nothing to do with nothing. Like, I went viral one time for eating a tomato and asking them, is a tomato or fruit or a fruit or a vegetable? And I'm sitting there biting and enjoying my food. And all of a sudden I get online. It's on all these different blog sites of me chewing and eating a goddamn tomato. And it just was like, I don't want to go viral for this.

[Interviewer/Host]

I think they call it a fruit, though.

[Claressa Shields]

A tomato. I believe it is a fruit, but we consider it a vegetable. Cause it's not that good.

[Interviewer/Host]

We do.

[Claressa Shields]

You're not just gonna bite to her.

[Interviewer/Host]

Nah.

[Claressa Shields]

Like an apple. But no, I think that. I think that just with social media, like I said, it takes some time to get used to it. But you do need to detox from it. And I detox a lot more now than what I used to.

[Interviewer/Host]

But the negative comments they say about your hair and they say this about.

[Claressa Shields]

Your body, are they just haters? You know, they just haters. I mean, they are gone.

[Interviewer/Host]

They expect you to go to the ring. They expect you to go to a fight with a face full of makeup, with lashes, hair done like it is now.

[Claressa Shields]

Is that really how stupid?

[Interviewer/Host]

Is that really how they expect you to come to the ring?

[Claressa Shields]

Camera right here.

[Interviewer/Host]

Stupid.

[Claressa Shields]

That's dumb. I'm gonna go to the ring. My queen Latifahs my braids with the blue hair for Flint Water crisis. Have my hair wrapped on up and no edge control, no edges. When that edge control dripping your eye. Yeah, you gonna be taking.

[Interviewer/Host]

You ain't take a knee like Vivante.

[Claressa Shields]

No, he said it was what it was.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what he said. I'm just Saying. He said it was.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm just saying I don't want that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Cause I'm not gonna get away with that. They gonna take a point from me. Tank, you know, he used to roll with Floyd so he can get away with that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm not getting away with that. So, therefore, when I get in the ring, I walk, I arrive at the fight with my dress and my heels and my little cute stuff. But as soon as we get in the locker room, I grab my makeup wipe, and I wipe it all off, right? Eyebrows, lashes, edges. I wipe it all off. Take the wig off and everything. It's time to fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm not ever gonna let an enhancement stop me from performing my job.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

My job is to whoop ass.

[Interviewer/Host]

But, see, they forget that. See, they see you like this, and they don't think you can fight, though.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't know why they think that. Cause I take my shirt off, baby. I scare everybody in here. Hold on. I take my shirt off. Let me show you something. I'll take my shirt off in here and show you what my. My. Hey, watch it now.

[Interviewer/Host]

They don't want no problem.

[Claressa Shields]

No.

[Interviewer/Host]

You know how you look at somebody, you see like, oh, I think I can take them.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. But, you know, I don't think this. Listen, if they think that. Go do your goddamn homework. You better look up Claressa Shields. And the first video that pop up is me dropping a girl, putting a girl on her back. You need to look. Look me up before you think that. Please. I would hate to get tried at the club with a dress.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, you. Hey, you can't do that. Your hands are deadly weapons. You can't fight in the street.

[Claressa Shields]

Who told you that?

[Interviewer/Host]

Because you can't, you gonna go to jail.

[Claressa Shields]

Listen, I have the right to defend myself so nobody come messing with me. I don't mess with nobody, but can't nobody just walk up and just slap me and then.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, but your hands are deadly weapons. You are protecting a professional fighter.

[Claressa Shields]

Yes. And I can defend myself.

[Interviewer/Host]

Shannon, ain't nobody gonna just walk up on you and hit you.

[Claressa Shields]

You never know. We in a weird world today. They weird out here. And then you said when they see me all dressed up that I can't fight. So they see me like, oh, she can't fight. She blocked me online. I'm gonna walk up and hit her. No.

[Interviewer/Host]

You know, and then you ain't gonna be able to rumble in no heels. Who?

[Claressa Shields]

I can fight in whatever shoes. I got heels, boots. Oh, Lord. Is you crazy? Listen, don't ever try me. I'm looking at the camera again.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, don't ever. No, hey, don't ever.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't even want to do that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Listen, we're not gonna engage in that because we don't want people. We don't want people to try to walk up on you.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, they not good. Listen, I gotta face that look. It say, come and be friends with me. Come be nice. Come be friendly. Now, if you decide to be something else, that's on you. But I am a. I don't need. I am a disguised killer.

[Interviewer/Host]

You said you wanted to have a child by the end of next year. Is that still true?

[Claressa Shields]

Yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

Damn. Well, you better help me get this fight out the way.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm gonna have a few fights before this. Before that.

[Interviewer/Host]

You do know how, like, I mean, fights. I mean, like every foes five months, right?

[Claressa Shields]

Well, it could be three, it could be four, depending on what you need.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you trying to have. You trying to have at least two fights before you welcome a child?

[Claressa Shields]

Before I start the process of a child. All right.

[Interviewer/Host]

I'm pretty sure you practicing now. You just, you know, practicing. Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Nah, I ain't trying to have no hiccups. No, I ain't trying. I'm trying to make sure we do this stuff in order.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

So, yeah, I want to get these fights out the way. And like I said, it's really a big thing to me to make sure all the fight is out of me.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

Cause once I get pregnant and have a baby and all this stuff, when I come back, I'm gonna fight some more. Right? Yeah, but it's like, it's some girls who need to get got like yesterday, right?

[Interviewer/Host]

So you wanna make sure. You wanna make sure you at your apex to get them. Go ahead and get them out the way.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah, get them out the way. And then when I come back, I'll, you know, if I need a year or I need a 2, I can get myself back in shape, fight some more and, you know.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you look at Rihanna, Beyonce, Serena. Serena.

[Claressa Shields]

What's the first name?

[Interviewer/Host]

Rihanna.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, Rihanna. Yeah. I love her.

[Interviewer/Host]

Beyonce had, had, had Blue Ivy and she had the twins. Serena, Olympia. And win and win and win a championship. I mean, she was pregnant at the time. I think she won the Australia Open and she was pregnant at the time.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, Jesus.

[Interviewer/Host]

And come back. Is that some of your inspiration? Like, okay, I see women that have had kids and come back and continue their careers.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like when I'm carrying, I'M gonna be in the gym working out still, because I don't want to lose everything that I got. Like, your complete body changes, but I don't want to gain too much weight. I don't want to not use certain muscles for a long time. I've been building this since I was 11 years old, so they can't rest a whole year. I need to make sure that I still keep my hands sharp to stay in shape. So I believe that once you do that, you can come back. And I heard that it's easier to come back if you work out while you're pregnant.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, yeah, for sure. So you walk into the ring with Cash Doll. She's Michigan. She's from Detroit. You from Flint. What's your relationship with Cash?

[Claressa Shields]

I love Cash Doll. Like, she's a boss. She's a boss bitch. You know, she like nice stuff and classy stuff. Like, I like Cash Doll. And, you know, she's about Cash Dollar. She whoop your ass, too? Like, Cash Dollar about. I like her. Listen, when I reached out to her and was like, yo, you know, walk me out. You know, can you walk me out to my fight? And she was like, girl, we gonna tear him up. Blah, blah, blah. It wasn't even, like. It wasn't even hard to make happen or nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, she just, like, she came.

[Interviewer/Host]

I'm with it.

[Claressa Shields]

And when we both walked up there and she started rapping, I'm talking about. They went crazy. It was about 11,000, 12,000 fans. I just remember it being like it was my biggest fight at the time. I'm like, oh, my God, all these people out here. It was just great that she came. We did our big one together. And I can't thank Cash Doll enough.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

She's now in a very public relationship, as you are with Zadarius, you with your guy, Papa. When you decided to get into this relationship with Pap, was it your intention for it to become public, or were you trying to, like, keep it a secret as long as you possibly could? Because, you know, if you date publicly, Clarissa, you know, you gotta break up publicly. You know how to go. Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Ain't that sad, huh?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, it is.

[Claressa Shields]

So honestly, with my thought process, I had just been engaged prior to being with Pap, okay? So at the time, you know, me and him had broke up and got back together a couple times. The guy I was engaged with. So now we finally called it quits. When I got with Pap, you know, another celebrity, it was already big Enough being just with a guy who wasn't a celebrity.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

And everybody being in my business.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Now I'm with another celebrity. And like you said, I wanted. I didn't know how it would work out, because, one, I was against dating celebrities. Rappers, NFL players, NBA. I heard that they dogs. And I'll whoop a dog's ass.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, Lord have mercy. There you go.

[Claressa Shields]

Play this, though.

[Interviewer/Host]

You can't fight your boyfriend. Everybody ain't meant to be fault.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't play this stuff.

[Interviewer/Host]

Just move on. You ain't got to fight me.

[Claressa Shields]

Nah, no, no, listen. Why I'm gonna let a grown man play with me for her? Lord have mercy. No, I'm saying, like, when the women get emotional, that's when they start doing all this crazy stuff. So you hurt my feelings. Yes. And you hurt my pride. Oh, you gonna have a problem.

[Interviewer/Host]

You told me that you've broken up with every guy that you've been in a relationship with.

[Claressa Shields]

Yes. So I just leave him. Okay, but I'm saying.

[Interviewer/Host]

But they did something.

[Claressa Shields]

I don't want to get played publicly, though. Like, come on, now.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, come on.

[Claressa Shields]

Like, that's why I'm like celebrity men. I was. It was off limits. Pap is special. Pap is special. Like, that's a different type of man right there.

[Interviewer/Host]

You sliding that, man. Dm, didn't you.

[Claressa Shields]

Man, Come on. I hate. I hate Gillian Wallow for that. Gillian Wallow full of crap. I invited Pap to a fight. I saw him at the Shakur fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

When he fought against. I forget the guy name. It was July 6th, but I saw him there. We took a picture. I didn't really know much about him, you know what I'm saying? I knew of his name, but I didn't. Like, that's, like, before my time a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't really know, like, that. He was a rap legend. I knew he could rap, but I didn't know he was, like, rap legend. I didn't. I didn't know. No.

[Interviewer/Host]

So how you find him on. How you find him on ig? You ain't know nothing.

[Claressa Shields]

No. When we was at the fight, he walked to me and said, hey, I'm Pat Poos. And he shook my hand.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And then we. And then we got.

[Interviewer/Host]

What you say?

[Claressa Shields]

He said he was a fan of me already. And I said, okay, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. No, I didn't. Nah, I didn't say that. But, no, when I invited him to my fight, What?

[Interviewer/Host]

You invited him to your piper to.

[Claressa Shields]

Come see me fight? You need celebrities in the building. I would invite you.

[Interviewer/Host]

You ain't invited me.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, you don't answer no DM, superstar.

[Interviewer/Host]

I got a DM. I got a DM from, I think, 2018, 2019.

[Claressa Shields]

You didn't even respond.

[Interviewer/Host]

I just saw it, like, the other day.

[Claressa Shields]

I know, but I'm saying, like, had you responded, I would have said, hey, man, I'm fighting xyz. If you want to come to my side, you should come and you should bring. At that time, you was with Skip. Yeah, I would say bring. You and Skip come. You and Skip come to the fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

You could have came on Undisputed and helped and failed to fight.

[Claressa Shields]

But you don't open your dm.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, man.

[Claressa Shields]

See that? But you know what? God's timing is the best timing.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

No. So look, when I. First of all, I didn't slide in. Pap. Dm, he full of crap.

[Interviewer/Host]

He made paps.

[Claressa Shields]

He said, well, boom. I saw him at the fight. We should have canceled. Blah. Watched the court fight. Whatever, whatever. I did my media after the fight. He waited on the side with him and his cousins. And then after, he asked me for a picture. We got a picture.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

We got one up in his phone. We got one up in my phone.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

I sent him the picture that was in my phone because I.

[Interviewer/Host]

How.

[Claressa Shields]

You sent him the picture to the dm.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, you sent the picture to the dm? I thought you sent it to his phone.

[Claressa Shields]

Uh, I have his number.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, okay.

[Claressa Shields]

I sent the dm.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

And when I sent it, I said, hey, and by the way, I'm fighting in two weeks.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

So if you wanna come to my fight, it's in Detroit, blah, blah, blah. You just come out. And I said, just let me know if you wanna come. I gave him my publicist number and said, hey, reach out to my publicist and she'll make sure that you got your.

[Interviewer/Host]

Get everything taken care of.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah. You know, that's good. From there, he. We end up exchanging numbers between each other, right? Just on, like, I put him in a group text. Hey, Crystal, this is Pat. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And he come into the fight and she said, okay, I got it. Cause I ain't, like, dealing with no tickets or nothing like that for the.

[Interviewer/Host]

Fight, you know, should you.

[Claressa Shields]

Right? So, boom, from there, as I'm getting ready for the gym and I'm working out because it's two weeks before my fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

I get a text in the morning and say, hey, good morning, Champ. And I'm like, huh? I'm like, hey, what's up? And he like, what we eating this morning? I'm like, hell, I'm eating egg whites and spinach. What you eating? He eating a blueberry muffin. I said, yeah, we definitely not eating the same, right? Like, don't even text me and tell me you eating a blueberry muffin. I ain't had no bread in months. And so he like, oh, you working out today?

[Odoo Business Software Promoter]

Woo.

[Claressa Shields]

Woo. So we would text, you know, just a little bit. Then I probably went three, four days without, without texting him. And then he texted me again, hey, Champ, blah, blah. And we. And we. Me and Pap was really just friends at the beginning. Like true friends. I didn't even. Didn't even invite him to the after party after the fight. Cause I wasn't, you know, we was cool.

[Interviewer/Host]

You weren't feeling like that, though.

[Claressa Shields]

I wouldn't say that. I said I wasn't feeling him. It was more like. It was like a.

[Interviewer/Host]

He just a friend. Oh, baby, no.

[Claressa Shields]

It was like a. It was like a crush. But I didn't know if I liked him because it was like, I'm so focused on my fight, so focused on what I gotta do.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

But then after the fight, you know, more texts and all this stuff. We probably text about a month and a half before we ever even talked on the phone. He came to the fight in the back, wished me good luck. Everybody was surprised about the fight, blah, blah, blah. Like he. It was. That's the best relationships when somebody is just.

[Interviewer/Host]

Just your friend.

[Claressa Shields]

Just your friend. And he is a.

[Interviewer/Host]

So when did you come to the realization, say, the man like me, he.

[Claressa Shields]

Asked me on a date. He asked me when I was coming to New York.

[Interviewer/Host]

All them texts, you ain't getting nothing from all the man done text you for a month and a half.

[Claressa Shields]

So, man, I mean, he did. He called me cute one time or me a couple times. And you know, he would compliment me. He liked my pictures on Instagram. But I just was like, oh, he.

[Interviewer/Host]

Liking your pictures on Instagram and you ain't thinking nothing.

[Claressa Shields]

I mean, it's not a lot of men.

[Interviewer/Host]

All the other guys that like your picture on Instagram, you ain't texting them. What you eating, champ? What you eating?

[Claressa Shields]

It's not a lot of men who I feel like don't like me, if I'm being honest.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay, yeah, but you ain't texting me.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I don't talk to people like that.

[Interviewer/Host]

I don't but you talking to him like that.

[Claressa Shields]

We was. I'm telling you, we were just friends. But I knew that it was something. I knew it was something. You know, maybe I thought he was.

[Interviewer/Host]

Cute or maybe I'm just trying to get you to say it. It's never just. There's always a reason you don't get in your car just to sit.

[Claressa Shields]

How you gotta stop.

[Interviewer/Host]

When I gave you gym, you go to whole food, you going to shop, and you do.

[Claressa Shields]

I invited him to the fight. And after that, we were texting and texting and texting, and it was really great conversation. I shared some of my raps, he shared his raps, which I didn't even know. Not. I didn't know any of them. And when I heard him rap, I said, this is my new favorite rapper. Because my favorite rapper before him was McNeil, okay? So when I heard Pat rap, I said, oh, shit, this dude is this dude cold.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay?

[Claressa Shields]

So I started following his music and we just was going back and forth. But, like, I don't know if it's like, maybe I'm not really. Maybe I wasn't good at flirting at the be at that time, because I wasn't trying to flirt. I knew at the time I was leaving my last relationship. I knew I was done with that. And I told my best friend, I.

[Interviewer/Host]

Told you so you need some time. You like, I don't want to jump right back into something.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. But I ended up jumping right back into something.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, you did, huh?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. So it don't matter.

[Interviewer/Host]

Damn, that was quick.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, about a month for somebody I.

[Interviewer/Host]

Didn'T know, somebody I know I didn't like.

[Claressa Shields]

I didn't say I didn't like him. I didn't say that. I said that when I invited him to my fight. I didn't know, like, it would be what it is now.

[Interviewer/Host]

No. Well, I mean, so what you hope. What did you hope to come of this? With all the texting you two were doing?

[Claressa Shields]

All the texting he was doing?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. Pen pal. It wasn't like he was in jail. He needed somebody to do.

[Claressa Shields]

No, I mean. Well, one for me, a lot of people always like me is me not liking them. So it was more of a thing. Like, you ever seen a girl who just fine as ever? She bad. And then as soon as she talk, you be like, oh, no, that's not the one for me. Okay, so for. So for me, I'm always. Guys always trying to talk to me. Trying to talk, you know, trying to holler me. So it's more of once we started being friends.

[Interviewer/Host]

But you so picky. You don't want nobody famous. You don't like no athletes. You don't like nobody in the public, so. Damn.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's nothing wrong with being picky, though.

[Interviewer/Host]

No, nothing wrong being picky.

[Claressa Shields]

But I know that for me, that if I do text you and I do entertain you, it's something, right? If I do feel something, because a lot of times I don't really be feeling nothing.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know? So I felt something with Pap. And I mean, it was. It was quick. Like once we went out on a date.

[Interviewer/Host]

Were you a Cheesecake Factory?

[Claressa Shields]

No. We went to, I think a place called Cornbread up in New York.

[Interviewer/Host]

What's the name of it?

[Claressa Shields]

Cornbread.

[Interviewer/Host]

I ain't never heard of it. Cornbread. Nice.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, soul food.

[Claressa Shields]

Soul food. I love soul food.

[Interviewer/Host]

What'd you get? Smothered pork chop?

[Claressa Shields]

No, I don't eat no pork.

[Interviewer/Host]

You don't eat no pork?

[Claressa Shields]

No. You eat pork still? We in 20, 25.

[Interviewer/Host]

Everything except the squeal.

[Claressa Shields]

No, no, I don't mess with. That's why you bump like that. Damn pig. No, I had me some fried chicken, yams, Mac and cheese and greens.

[Interviewer/Host]

Was it good?

[Claressa Shields]

It was great.

[Interviewer/Host]

Fried chicken, Mac and cheese and yams. Yams and greens, collard greens.

[Claressa Shields]

It was great.

[Interviewer/Host]

They have no ham hocks in the collard green. No turkey necks.

[Claressa Shields]

No.

[Interviewer/Host]

No. Pigtails only.

[Claressa Shields]

Don't stuff with no pork in it. You gotta stop, man. You gotta stop. Do not eat pork, man.

[Interviewer/Host]

You ain't never had a small pot of collard greens with a bunch of pigtails in it. Pigtails, your family now they laughing, they go.

[Claressa Shields]

Pigtails, pig feet. I done had it all. I'm not eating it while I'm growing.

[Interviewer/Host]

You ain't eating it no more.

[Claressa Shields]

Chitlins. I'm not eating it no more. It's over with. It's been over with for years.

[Interviewer/Host]

Well, I'll eat your share of pigtails so I don't mess with no chitlin.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. So just to get the story right, me and Pap was friends. We love each other, and we grew into something more. You need to stop. No, we was. And now he.

[Interviewer/Host]

I believe you.

[Claressa Shields]

He's my best friend now, and he's my man. And we have a great time together.

[Interviewer/Host]

You have a great time together?

[Claressa Shields]

He just left this morning.

[Interviewer/Host]

Damn. I thought he was gonna come.

[Claressa Shields]

Mm. Mm. He be having to move around. Pap got stuff to do. He's a celebrity too. That's what I'm saying.

[Interviewer/Host]

But for me, that works for you, though.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Could you have a man up under you all the time?

[Claressa Shields]

Um, nah, I can't. Not under me all the time now. But I know it's 24 hours in a day.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

So I can get my work out the way and do what I gotta do and then we can be together.

[Interviewer/Host]

So. Yeah, well, I guess that's what's gonna have to be. Cause you have kids, y' all gonna be together. So. So I'm just saying, like, you go work out, he go work out. Cause obviously y' all do different type of workout. You come home, he there, you know, he have you a smoothie to have you, your juice ready to go, your food ready.

[Claressa Shields]

I gotta cook for that.

[Interviewer/Host]

You got a chef?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Odoo Business Software Promoter]

Damn.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, bought big baller.

[Claressa Shields]

Somebody gotta do it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, somebody gotta do it. I might have to start fighting. I saw you on stage with Summer Walker, rapping host. What was that like?

[Claressa Shields]

Okay. So they reached out to me and said that, you know, I sang her song on a 20 versus one when I was up there with a bunch of guys and they were all. I had to pick who I wanted to be with, whatever the case may be. And a guy asked me could I sing and I said yes. And he told me to sing and I sang it. So from there it went viral of me singing. And now at her concert, she had me people sing that same song. So she was like, she wanted the originator to come and sing. So I was in Atlanta, I came they and they had tickets for me. And when it was her segment, she brought the mic up to me with Funny Marco right there. He said he was going to share a mic. I said, you was not going to mess up my singing. Funny Marco said, oh, I'mma sing something. You sing some. I said, what? That ain't what was told to me.

[Interviewer/Host]

No.

[Claressa Shields]

I grabbed that mic and sang my little song. He was right there rocking back and forth, acting like he was going to sing. But it was a great. It was great to have that. And I'm really shy to sing in front of people.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what I was about to ask you. I mean, I mean, singing in your home or in your shower or different than singing in front of 10, 15, 20,000 people.

[Claressa Shields]

It was about 30,000 folks there.

[Interviewer/Host]

What?

[Claressa Shields]

Because it was really the. I believe Chris Brown.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

Was performing.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

He was the. He was the head. She was just kind of under him. So. Yeah. Mm. Mm. It was very nerve wracking. But I had been practicing until I had got there. I had my tea and my honey. So I said, yeah, I'm about to go here and I'm about to kill this. And I and I did my thing.

[Interviewer/Host]

It was fun getting ready for a fight. What type of music are you listening to? Are you listening to something to get you crunk? Roy Jones can't be stopped.

[Claressa Shields]

Is this the day of the fight?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes, day of the fight. You in the dressing room.

[Claressa Shields]

It really depends on what my mood is because if I'm very hyped, I wanna listen to something to calm me down. So I go gospel, R and B. If I'm not hype enough, I go trap rap. If I just wanna feel that beast, you know, we gonna listen to some dmx, you know what I'm saying? We gonna bop up to some dmx, some Biggie, some Tupac, love Meek Mills, you know. And then when I'm really feeling like it's about that time and I want the time to be, to be a boss, I'm put on my cash dial. Put on my Megan thee Stallion Put on my cardi Put on my Nikki too. You know what I'm saying? I know they got a little beef, but they, they all got good music.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

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[Claressa Shields]

I. I be having to feel what I need to feel, you know what I'm saying? So sometimes it really depends on how I feel and when it's time for everybody to get out. Sometime I just want to hear my thoughts, you know what I'm saying? So I only listen to music like tour like the last five, three minutes before we walk out. I cut the music off and just, just kind of zone out, gather myself.

[Interviewer/Host]

If you could have Anybody walk you to the ring, who would you have?

[Claressa Shields]

Beyonce.

[Interviewer/Host]

I knew you was gonna say be.

[Claressa Shields]

Hey, listen, I don't know. Beyonce walked me out to the fight. My life is complete. I always say that Beyonce, like, that would be like the dream. The dream. And you know what? She can pick a song, but if she want to come out to Diva who Run the World girls she wanna come out to. This Ain't Texas. Whatever she wanna come out to.

[Interviewer/Host]

You gonna come out the country.

[Claressa Shields]

It's Beyonce. You don't tell Beyonce no to nothing. It don't even matter. She wanna come out to Bills. I don't care. Beyonce come. I'm gonna be like, yes, yes, yes.

[Interviewer/Host]

Have you had any injuries. Have you sustained any injuries preparing for a fight? You know, shoulder, elbow?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Cause it's like when you train and when you're prepping, you know, lost days of training sets you back.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

So one day of missed training is like three, four days.

[Claressa Shields]

The injury that I've sustained, I have still fought with them. And after the fight, I take care of the injuries. You know what I'm saying? I do what I have to do to get through the fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

As most fighters do.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

And after that, I have to do it. And then I see how serious it is. Like, I don't really know how serious an injury is leading up to a fight because I kind of ignore it unless it's just like, really crazy.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

But I did have one really crazy two. Two. Two fights ago, a frozen shoulder. So my arm couldn't. It was just froze here. I couldn't lift it up. I couldn't do nothing with it. It just was frozen here. And I had to go and get one of those shots to take the information down. I had to ice it. Yeah, it was a lot that had to get done for this fight to go through. It happened a week, the week before the fight, and that was with Danielle Perkins. So with that, like I said, you making over a million dollars, you know, you got a sold out. You got a sold out venue. I'm sorry. But in women's boxing, post.

[Interviewer/Host]

Don't. You can't post on.

[Claressa Shields]

You can't call off fights like that. I'm sorry. You just never know when you're gonna get another opportunity. So. I don't blow opportunities. So with that, I fought through that one unanimously and, you know, made sure I did the work the next fight. And then I'm doing the work now. You know what I'm saying? Letting this stuff heal, just nobody's supposed to do anything too much, you run too much, you have leg problems, you punch too much, you get torn stuff. Like, it is what it is. You just have to make sure you do the proper recovery and everything to it and then go from there.

[Interviewer/Host]

So cutting weight, you know, you see people go through drastic measures. They're not eating, they're not drinking water, they're getting a sauna. They're just, you know, they can't. I mean, all they can do is just basically, somebody has to help them to get to the scale way and then try to get food, try to get fluid back in you. How difficult is that for you? Because like you said now, you know, you walk around and you say, 185. 1, 180. 185. And then you drop it down to 170. That's not that much. That's nothing.

[Claressa Shields]

No, that's not.

[Interviewer/Host]

But when you get down to 65, or you got to get down to, what, 54.

[Claressa Shields]

You say 54.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's a lot.

[Claressa Shields]

Those are. Those are tough. Especially when you've been fighting at a bigger weight class for. For a long time. So I've been at heavyweight almost a year now, a year and a half. So going down to the weight classes could be. It's not that easy now.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, I got different muscles and everything.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Losing the weight is all about sacrifice and having you a team. Some people don't have teams. I have a whole nutrition team. I actually try to eat healthier now, even just inside my home when I'm not in camp.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

I got food in my bag. I got me, like, some baked chicken, some rice, and some spinach in there.

[Interviewer/Host]

You had that in the bag? I ate that.

[Claressa Shields]

What?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, I ate that for you.

[Claressa Shields]

You're ridiculous. I was hungry. How you guys.

[Interviewer/Host]

You talking about you hungry? I was hungry, too. You had some baked chicken, some spinach in there. I left the spinach, but the baked chicken.

[Claressa Shields]

Why would you eat the spinach? Like Popeye?

[Interviewer/Host]

I ain't want to be like Popeye. He couldn't see out of one eye.

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, Jesus. But no. So I'm trying to get better now with, like, the chef at my house and eating better just. Just outside of when I have to have camp. Because when camp starts, you know, that's like eight, ten weeks, sometimes six.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

It's like you want to make sure that you don't have to spend a whole camp just focusing on losing weight.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You can actually focus on, like, the actual fight, the stuff you got to do, and you don't want to have to be running every day. Like, I think that that's what kill a lot of these fighters. Like, they run, run, run, run. And before you know it, you just, like. You don't. There really is no fight left in you, even after you rehydrate.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah. You don't fought to make weight. Now you can go out there and fight an opponent.

[Claressa Shields]

A lot of fighters do that. Some of these big stages, these fighters are losing that weight. And when they're trying to rehydrate, it's hard because they don't start itself for three days. And you know when you dehydrated, dehydrated, you. You go in a ring at 50%, 40%.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

So that's not good.

[Interviewer/Host]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[Claressa Shields]

All?

[Interviewer/Host]

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[Claressa Shields]

Oh, you better ask about the sex question.

[Odoo Business Software Promoter]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Do they tell you y' all can't do that?

[Claressa Shields]

I don't know what the other women do, but I sustain. But I stay Away from sex six weeks before the fight.

[Interviewer/Host]

So like a male fighter, they can't have none, so you can't get none either. That's what you. I mean, you take. I mean, have you always thought like that?

[Claressa Shields]

I know other girls who do it the day of the day before. Like they be having their little sex and stuff. Me, I'm not doing that for me. Was it little sex stuff, Whatever y' all want to call it, that makes me feel really relaxed and really calm.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, you don't wanna feel calm.

[Claressa Shields]

No. When you got a pit bull on your ass, you wanna know how to run, you gotta be able to get that shit. You got to be able to run. No, like, it really does take something out. Out your legs. Yeah. To me. So it's like six weeks maybe. That's why I'd be so mean and angry.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Because six weeks without none, and then you just got to go in there and fight. But, hey, I feel good. I'm in my millions. I feel better being healthy. I feel a lot stronger. Not doing it.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

Not doing it. So.

[Interviewer/Host]

So how do you. With that trial and error? Did you have to know whether a situation like, man, I felt sluggish, now that ain't happening no more. I just didn't feel.

[Claressa Shields]

Ugh.

[Interviewer/Host]

Because a lot of times as an athlete, it's trial and error. What works for me. How much to train, how much to lift, how much to run, how much to eat, what the thing, how, when, how much sleep do I get? All of it's trial and error. And then you fine tune it and you get it now.

[Claressa Shields]

You put it. Yeah. You find what works for you.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yep.

[Claressa Shields]

Well, unlike other people, I didn't start doing that stuff till I was 17, after I won the Olympics. So before then, I never even fooled around anyway.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right. Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

Now that I'm grown, or teenager, whatever you want to call it now, you know, I'm in the gym constantly, every day, too. So coach wants to spar two or three times a week. So I realized that when I come to the gym and I've been doing that grown people stuff.

[Interviewer/Host]

Being vanished.

[Claressa Shields]

I'm a bit more tired.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, I can't fight as hard. And guess who noticed it. Coach.

[Interviewer/Host]

He noticed it. He like, hold on. What you doing? What you did last night.

[Claressa Shields]

Excuse. Yeah, Coach. And so, like I said, Jason used to call me out in front of everybody. Cause I was like his daughter. So he called me out. Rs you look like shit today. You've been out there fooling around. I could tell you need to stop doing all that damn.

[Interviewer/Host]

Put your business out on blast like that.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. Jason was like that.

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh. Oh, my goodness.

[Claressa Shields]

And it was. And at the time, it was very embarrassing because it was like, this is new to me. Nobody even know I do this stuff.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

And here you is telling everybody my business. But, no, I just know, like, he was right, though. It does make you sluggish and tired. And I feel way more sharper when I'm not. And for me, I spar against men getting ready for fights.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay?

[Claressa Shields]

So it's like these men coming here fast and strong and sharp. I got to be on my A game, and the last thing I want to leave me my. Leave me is my damn legs, right?

[Interviewer/Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah. So I'm like, I don't really fool around like that.

[Interviewer/Host]

When did your next fight.

[Claressa Shields]

Okay, so. So my next fight supposed to be January 24th.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

At that State Farm here in Atlanta.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

Possibly the opponent is franchise Cruz, but I'm resigning to my. My promotion with leader. Promotion, slash win, and I'm being paid $8 million. Wow. Yep. And that's just in a couple of days. Once we get the paperwork done and everything, we gonna be good. That's why I said it's really big. It's really. It's really. I don't know. I feel very proud that I was able to get this offer. I've been talking with some of the biggest promotions out there. Mvp, Matchroom, Salita, you know, talking to everybody, trying to get the best deal. And now that my stardom has grown so much now, and now I can actually, you know, the quote gets paid. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

If someone would. If we. If movies, they come say, you know what? We want to do a movie about Clarissa Shields life.

[Claressa Shields]

We did one already.

[Interviewer/Host]

I want another one. Because you're all this time champion. Who would you like to play you?

[Claressa Shields]

Oh, Lord. See, honestly, maybe I'm biased, but Ryan Destiny played me so good.

[Interviewer/Host]

You want me to do it again?

[Claressa Shields]

Why not do it again? But if I had to pick somebody else.

[Interviewer/Host]

I know who my audience would want to play you.

[Claressa Shields]

Angela Bassett. Who? Kiki Keke Palmer. Well, she. Keke Palmer played. Listen, I'm not gonna lie. I thought Keke was gonna play me for the first one for the biopic. So when they came back and they said it was Ryan Destiny, I was like, oh, okay. No, but it's not that she's not a good actress. It was just like, she's small. Yeah, she's tiny.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah, well, Keke is small and tiny too, but I mean, but she played.

[Claressa Shields]

More sports and she kind of reforms her body or whatever. So I was like, I don't know how she's gonna. How she gonna play me. But, man, when I say that girl got on a diet, was drinking protein drinks and everything. Ryan did it. She did her thing on the Fire Inside. But for my next one, yeah. Akiki. Angela Bassett.

[Interviewer/Host]

What didn't they cut? What they didn't. What didn't they cover in the first that you would like to get covered this time? Would you like it? So obviously they take the beginning stages. So now you're at a different place in your life now, the relationship, potentially, kids will be in the mix. So is that something that you would want to get covered this time around?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, yeah. I want them to actually cover the grown woman that figured it out. You know what I'm saying? I think that from my documentary, that was a long, long time ago. T. Rex, they released that when I was 19.

[Interviewer/Host]

Okay.

[Claressa Shields]

And so it's an hour and a half documentary where they actually follow me around, whatever. So now, until the Fire Inside came out. Okay. Basically from the documentary, it left people like, yeah, she won an Olympic gold medal, but she still live in Flint, still poor, blah, blah, blah. And that carried on until the Fire Inside came out. But I been won the Olympics again, been moved out of Flint, lived in Florida, Colorado. Now I'm here in Atlanta. I had already, you know, started getting my life together.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yes.

[Claressa Shields]

Had bought me a house, cars, bought mama a house, bought daddy a place. Sorry I did all this stuff, but it was like, none of that.

[Interviewer/Host]

None of that was in the original. So now you want that side to be shown as well?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, to show that, like, this is what actually happened. Like, even now, people don't like the relationship with me and my first coach. We still talk here and there. He comes to my fight. He's supportive, but that's still like my dad, you know? And every relationship is not like father, daughter. It's not really close. But I know that if I call him and I need him, he's there. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer/Host]

So was it difficult to split?

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host]

Because the only coach you had known, you had such success.

[Claressa Shields]

And for me, that's why I don't think I have a lot of friends, because I don't want to be friends with you. And then we. And then we fall out. Like, it really hurts my feelings. Like, I don't like betrayal. I don't like disloyalty. So for me, it's like, if I Take you in and take you in as my friend. Let's be friends and let's be good friends to each other. I don't like, you know, we live in a world where it's just fake, fake, you know, oh, somebody that was your best friend is going around telling everybody your business and spitting on your name and all this stuff. It's like, I don't like that. Like, that made me want to fight somebody. For real, for real. Well, everything made me want to fight somebody, don't they? But that really, like, when it comes to. That's like, dang, you gonna hurt my feelings and, and make me trust you and make me care about you and then just get to being fake and stuff like that really, really bothers me. So I be kind of like this with that. So me and Jason, not us separating at a young age and not training together no more. It was very weird because I felt like I was betraying him by getting me a new coach. He was like, dang. But I was professional, so I'm like, I gotta fight in eight weeks. I ain't even got time to fix this relationship. We. We gotta fight, right? So it's like, either we gonna do this fight and, and kind of ignore whatever we're going through, or I gotta go to this new coach and figure this out and then maybe we come back. But it was just like at the beginning of my professional career, nobody had time to do that. It was like I was fighting back to back to back. This belt, that belt, this belt, that belt, this champion, that champion. There was no time to worry about, oh, oh, you're upset, you're mad, you want to talk with me. It wasn't, it wasn't on time for that. It was like, I gotta, I gotta. You gotta get it while the getting is good.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yep.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, so that was how I was.

[Interviewer/Host]

You mentioned earlier that you, you spar with men, you don't spar with women.

[Claressa Shields]

No, no.

[Interviewer/Host]

Why?

[Claressa Shields]

I gotta really see what I got. I. I got to work my stuff. So it's like with the women, sometime you hit them too hard or they contact you personal. It's like when you spar against the men, you come out there and you show them what you got, they show you what they got, and y' all can actually, you know, work.

[Interviewer/Host]

You sparred with Errol Spence and Shakur.

[Claressa Shields]

Uh huh. I sparred Errol Spence, Shakur Boots, Keyshawn Davis.

[Interviewer/Host]

Damn.

[Claressa Shields]

Yeah, I sparred a lot of them. I'm trying to think who else I sparred. I sparred a lot of guys. It's guys who are professional now. Like, of course, you know, like, the first. The first guy. Our drill Holmes. That was the first boyfriend I had. We sparred all the time. One of my biggest sparring partners, Sardius Simmons, I sparred against a lot of men. I mean, I can't even name everybody. Kenneth Sims, he's fighting. He's. He's getting ready for a world championship, and he's been fighting for world championships for a minute. I sparred against a lot of people.

[Interviewer/Host]

Are you the only woman fighter that pro that possibly spars against men, or do you. Most of them do?

[Claressa Shields]

The good ones. The ones who are really good.

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, can. But not. Not all of them. But I probably spar with more men than they do right? Then. Then. Then they do, right? Yeah, I think that. But, I mean, I have to. I'm 180 pounds, right?

[Interviewer/Host]

Yeah.

[Claressa Shields]

And then even when I was smaller, see, when I'm smaller, I'm actually a bit more dangerous because I'm faster, I'm stronger, and I'm in way better shape.

[Interviewer/Host]

Right.

[Claressa Shields]

You know, so I've always had to, like, I sparred Tony Harrison.

[Interviewer/Host]

Wow.

[Claressa Shields]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I sparred against some.

[Interviewer/Host]

Some champions, some really good male. Some really good male fighters.

[Claressa Shields]

And I'm telling you, like, you can hit them up and ask them how the sparring was, and they all be like, yo, she was. She was tough. She was strong. She was fast. I had to keep my hands up. I had to be on my defense. Like, it's always some. Always some good work. I think out of sparring all of them, the hardest was Shakur and Earl. Can I hit Shakur? Can't hit him. I'm like. I don't know if it was like, was I stepped behind this day or what, but I could not catch this, man. I think I probably hit him with a right hand and a big old uppercut or something. I tried to drop him with a body shot, and then we just got to going. But it's hard to hit him when he don't want to get hit. He don't want to get hit, but he know how to counter and everything. And then Earl, I was 17. He was just so strong, right? He was so strong, and it was just like, what? I had to box him. I had to move around upon him. Cause I'm like, this dude. Too strong to be standing here trying to fight with. So Earl Spence was really, really strong, but they wanted to use him to make me move around on my feet more because everybody that I was sparring, I was just going in there and just beating them down. So they were like earl, gonna make her have to use her skills and move around or whatever, whatever.

[Interviewer/Host]

So Clarissa, thanks for coming by. Thanks for your time. Appreciate it. Continued success. Congratulations on everything you accomplish and all the best in the future.

[Claressa Shields]

Thank you.

[Interviewer/Host]

Clarissa Shields.

[Claressa Shields]

All my life been grinding all my.

[Interviewer/Host]

Life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price Wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life Love all my life.

[Claressa Shields]

Been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle.

[Interviewer/Host]

Paid the price Want a slice, about.

[Claressa Shields]

To roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

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