Club Shay Shay - Dr. Cheyenne Bryant Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Dr. Cheyenne Bryant Part 2 (December 3, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this substantial, lively episode of Club Shay Shay, host Shannon Sharpe continues his in-depth conversation with psychologist and life coach Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. They delve deeper into the realities of modern relationships, gender roles, fidelity, mental health, and the pressures of public life. The conversation balances personal anecdotes, clinical insights, and candid explorations of topics like toxic relationships, financial dynamics in dating, emotional health in pro sports, and intergenerational shifts in partnership expectations. Dr. Bryant shares openly about her life, her family history, career milestones, and the nuances that shape her philosophies on love, sex, and self-worth.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Red Flags and Toxic Relationships

• Spotting Toxicity Early

  • Dr. Bryant asserts red flags in relationships appear “in the first interaction,” but are often ignored, especially by those desperate for connection.
  • “There’s people who have a full plate…and there’s people that have an empty plate and they want anything just to fall on it…That’s called desperation.” – Dr. Bryant (03:00)

• Fairy Tale Thinking

  • People project an idealized image onto partners, ignoring reality:
  • “I wish you were wine but you water. We are not Jesus. We are not turning water to wine, right? This is always going to be water.” – Dr. Bryant (04:29)

• Can Toxic Relationships Be Fixed?

  • Yes, but only with hard work, willingness, and mutual therapy (individual and couple’s):
  • "If you got it, you're going to project it. We are all just little projectors walking around here.” – Dr. Bryant (06:23)

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2. Gender Roles, Finances, and Respect in Relationships

• Shifts In Dating Norms
  • Shannon recounts his upbringing and confusion over shifts to “50/50” expectations:
  • “When did the 50/50 come into effect?” – Shannon Sharpe (09:19)
  • Dr. Bryant traces the rise of “desperation” and also the rise of women who want to build as equals, rather than being taken care of. Different types of women approach “splitting” finances for distinct reasons (09:54).
• Masculinity, Provision, and Respect
  • Dr. Bryant discusses how being the breadwinner in her own life affected her view and respect for her two fiancés:
    • When she provided financially, her respect dynamic changed.
    • “When a man can’t provide…he naturally emasculates himself.” – Dr. Bryant (11:18)
    • “My love or respect for (the man providing) was very different … I couldn’t wait to cook for him.” – Dr. Bryant (13:04)

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3. Fidelity, Side Relationships, and Self-Worth

• Why Are Some Attracted to Married People?
  • Both men and women cross boundaries, but for different reasons:
  • “A man…just wants to sleep with you. The woman…wants her position.” – Dr. Bryant (21:02)
  • Women are often attracted to married men who are good husbands (even if not faithful).
• Side Chick Reality
  • Dr. Bryant explains—being a “side chick” is “not a flex.” Most married men do more for their wives. “You are this man's pacifier… You are not his promised land whatsoever.” (28:05)
  • Self-worth discussion: “You cannot value yourself and see yourself in the position of two or three.” (28:36)
• Signs of Cheating
  • Men often cheat out of lust; women cheat out of vindictiveness or unmet emotional needs.
  • “Can you love a dog?”... “Can you love a woman who has deceived you and has the capacity to do it again?” – Dr. Bryant (39:56-40:06)

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4. Dating, Preferences, and Submissiveness

• On Submission
  • Dr. Bryant explains she’s naturally “submissive,” but only to men she respects and chooses:
  • “If you can't respect him, you shouldn't choose him.” (15:28)
• Public vs. Private Relationships
  • Prefers privacy until marriage or engagement. Public exposure makes reconciliation harder and increases scrutiny (59:40).
• Younger vs. Older Partners
  • She’s attracted to men who have no kids (“I’m not polyamorous, I only need one.”), and finds younger men often more mature and relationship-oriented nowadays (94:49, 96:33).

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5. Sex, Intimacy, and Connection

• Sexual Dynamics
  • She’s not into casual sex; real intimacy should be built on connection, not surface-level experiences:
  • “A man should penetrate your heart and your mind before he ever penetrates your body.” (32:14)
  • The less casual, the better the sex: “When you plug into a man or woman…that is nasty, not just freaky…You can’t get that anywhere.” (35:20)
• Sex & Arguments
  • Prefers intimacy after disagreements to restore connection, with humor:
  • “I need skin to skin. I want you in my skin. …I want you to unzip [your hoodie], I want to hop in it…” (83:02)

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6. Life Choices, Family, and Parenthood

• On Terminated Teenage Pregnancies
  • Dr. Bryant discusses her choice, supported by her father, and how it affected her:
  • “My father allowed me to beat odds that were against me.” (74:56)
  • The experience shaped her trust in men and appreciation for male leadership.
• Motherhood Plans
  • She’s now in her “choosing stage,” stating she is ready for motherhood and wants twins if possible. Prioritizes having her life and career stable first before becoming a parent (66:16-68:29).
  • “Your relationships become a lot more prosperous when you choose from a place of health rather than desperation.” (69:45)
• Advice to Women
  • Advocates for dating widely, but not necessarily sleeping with multiple partners, and prioritizing self-worth and discernment.

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7. Mental Health, Especially in Black & Athletic Communities

• Emotional Suppression vs. Expression in Black Men
  • Dr. Bryant notes the suicide rate among Black men was lower when emotions were suppressed. Now, emotional awareness is rising (which is good), but lacking safe outlets can lead to depression or worse (105:31).
  • “When there’s no place to dump it…anything that we internalize at some point is going to externalize in some form of action.” (105:31)
• Role in the NFL
  • Highlights her work with players (Steelers, Browns) providing safe spaces for emotional release and growth:
    • “Boundaries are not for people, they’re for us, and they are emotional regulators” (106:37)
• Suicide & Depression: Signs and Support
  • Advocates for deeper check-ins, not just “you good?” but intentional, insistent conversations and interventions (108:35)
  • “We have to start creating safer spaces for our loved ones. Loved ones don’t mean someone you live with … the check-ins should be there.” (109:17)
  • Emphasizes that many young players have entitled families, not supportive ones, which exacerbates stress and loneliness (110:36).

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8. Book: Mental Detox

• The book teaches readers to “detox your mind of negative thinking,” improve emotional intelligence, and become intentional about their behaviors and goals.
• Uses a garden metaphor—seeds (thoughts) planted to bear the fruit you want in life (118:30).
• Success with self-publishing led to a deal with Hay House; features a forward by Lala Anthony and support from 50 Cent.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Desperation in Relationships:
  “Desperation means I'm coming in with my own idea of what I want you to be... I'm afraid to see you for who you are...” (03:43)
• On Projecting in Relationships:
  “Everything I have, you're all going to feel it. So I'm just projecting onto you who I am.” (06:23)
• On Cheating:
  “Can you learn to love a dog?... Now this Negro, this Cane Corso needs that steak because he already got a taste of blood…Can I do that?” (39:34–39:49)
• On Womanhood & Career:
  “I would love to marry a man of affluence…but I don’t want to be known as [just] Shannon's wife. I want to be known as Dr. Bryant.” (102:29)
• On Fathers & Daughters:
  “He was the last face I seen walking in to termination and they were the first faces I seen walking out. That is what a parent does, that is what a great father does.” (76:56)
• On Choosing Partners with Wisdom:
  “I am now in the pit of my power, not in my biological clock.” (81:44)
• On Sex & Emotional Connection:
  “People are having horrible sex too. Cause all they doing is casually and they’re calling freaky good sex.” (35:00)
• On Mental Health for Athletes:
  “Boundaries are not for people. They’re for us – and they are emotional regulators.” (106:37)
• On Growth:
  “20 year old Cheyenne, straight shooter but probably bullets flying at everybody, right? 40 year old Cheyenne, straight shooter knows her target.” (91:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Toxicity in Relationships and Red Flags – 02:37–05:05
• Fixing Toxic Partnerships – 05:05–07:51
• Gender Roles, Finances, Respect – 07:51–16:14
• Married Men, Affairs, Side Relationships – 19:44–32:19
• Cheating: How Men & Women Differ – 37:45–43:11
• Amicable Breakups – 43:11–45:08
• On Submission, Energy, and Sex – 13:04–17:40 | 32:19–36:40
• Privacy in Relationships – 59:40–61:42
• Abortion, Parenting & Father’s Influence – 73:19–79:53
• On Wanting Children & Family Planning – 66:16–69:44
• Generational Changes (20s vs 40s) – 91:06–94:01
• Mental Health in Black Community/Athletes – 105:16–117:36
• The Book: Mental Detox – 117:34–120:52

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay provides a vibrant, unfiltered look into the evolving landscape of Black relationships, modern womanhood, masculinity, vulnerability, and success. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant offers powerful, lived–and clinically informed–advice that serves both men and women seeking meaning, intimacy, and self-respect. Her personal stories—about love, loss, career, and choices—are intertwined with takeaways for anyone on the journey of self-discovery or struggling to understand the modern dating world.

Quote to Remember:
“Your relationships become a lot more prosperous when you choose from a place of health rather than desperation.” – Dr. Cheyenne Bryant (69:45)

Book Mention:
“Mental Detox” by Dr. Cheyenne Bryant

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Transcript

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Toxic relationship. How soon do you think a person. Can you tell? I mean, could you tell within, say, a week, a couple of months, that this is gonna be. This is toxic. There's too much toxicity in this, and this is not gonna end well. And I just need to go now.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Red flags show up. I believe in the first interaction, people just choose not to see him because they're desperate. There's two people. There's people who have a full plate and they gotta make room for what they want. And there's people that have an empty plate and they want anything just to fall on it at any time. That's called desperation. You can see red flags when you have a full plate. From the beginning, me and you can have a conversation at a restaurant or at a gym, right? And the first five, 10, 15 minutes, I can tell he's too resistant for me. He's not gonna be conducive for me or this man knows how to have conversation with my strong personality. This might work out. You will be able to tell. Oh, she feisty. Not my type.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or we got a live one here.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Live one here. Or like, ooh, that fiery is kind of sexy to me. I like this strength. I can play with this. Those things show up the first 5, 10 minutes if you're not desperate. Desperation means I'm coming in with my own idea of what I want you to be. I'm afraid to see you for who you are because then that means I may have to say no to you. And I want somebody so bad that I'm going to put my ID on you, not see none of the red flags on purpose so that I can have something to plug into. That's desperation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How about I see you as you are and not how I wish you to be? Because I think that's a lot of things that be at play. They don't see the person for who they actually are, but who I wish you to be.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's. That's the fairy tale ideology. I wish you were wine, but you water. We are not Jesus. We are not turning water to wine, right? This is always going to be water. And what people do is they go, mm, it's wine. Sit it on the shelf. Watch this. And every time they take a sip, they're like, oof, I don't like you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't like me.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right? I don't like you because you're not wine. But how many times does that water tell the Person. I'm just water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just plain water.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm just water.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you fix a toxic relationship? Can you be toxic in the beginning and all of a sudden not be toxic?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yes, but it takes a whole hell of a lot of work and a lot of dedication. And it takes two people that are in therapy having individual sessions and couple sessions. So my couples come individually one week and then a couples the next week, individual and couples. And it takes a lot of self awareness, meaning I'm gonna be poking and thriving and giving inventory on this is how you show up that is causing impairment for yourself. See, we don't really cause impairment for people. First, the impairments that you experience, I'm already experiencing within me. Otherwise you could have never experienced them. So if you think you have a problem with the shit, you got a problem with me, with how you think I'm dealing with myself. That's what people have to understand. So that thing that you do, that doesn't work for us, you do it with you and don't like it anyways. That's how it shows up in our relationship. So when you're in session with me, as your doctor, I'm saying, listen, Shannon, that thing that you keep doing that she doesn't like, tell me how you like it within yourself. And I've almost never heard a person say, oh, I love that I drink and I'm abusive. Do you? Because what does your self talk when you're drinking? How abusive are you with your narrative to yourself when you are under the influence? Damn, Doc, you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Damn, Doc. So let's fix it with you. Because if I could fix it with you, guess what, it won't happen with her. But where people go wrong at, they want to fix it within the relationship without fixing themselves. Come on now. But you still got it, right? So if you got it, you're going to project it. We are all just little projectors walking around here. Everything I have, you're all going to feel it. So I'm just projecting onto you who I am. If I feel sexy, you're going to see sexy in me. Because I'm projecting that I'm eluding, that if I am feeling insecure, you're going to feel. So we're just projectors. And yes, folks can go from toxic or, you know, trauma bonds to healing bonds. But that usually happens with folks who've been married for 10, 15 years. I'm being honest. Where they have toxic and trauma the hell out of each other. And they came to a peak of saying one Thing we know for sure, we don't want to leave. We don't want to leave each other, right? But we don't want to stay like this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But we can't stay like this now.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Unless those two people know that. One thing is, I don't want to leave you, you don't want to leave me. We just can't stay like this. The relationship can work past it, right? But if one of us wants out, it's over. It's not working past it. It's not working past it, no. But when you get a relationship where they say, look, Shannon, I'm just never gonna leave you, and you like, doc, I'm not. I ain't going nowhere. But we gotta do better than this. And you're like, we do. We're in a good position, okay? And we can work through that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I like that. This, this, this relationship with the women now. You gotta take me here, you gotta take me there. We go in half on the bills. I just grew out, like I said. I'm gonna come from a different time. My grandfather handled all the bills. I never remember when I was in high school or college, I never really heard a woman says, I took him to the movies or I bought. I never heard that. I guess. I don't know when that came about that, you know, women took guys on dates and they paid for things.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So you. Not like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. Oh, I'm just. Oh, I just. That's how.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You're a man's man. You're just a man's man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I pay all the bills. We go out to eat. I pay. I do all that if I don't know. I mean, have a woman taken me to dinner? Yes. But I probably can count on one hand in my 57 years of living that someone has taken me to dinner and actually paid for it. Taking me to a movie and paid for it. I just. I just. I don't feel. I feel. I don't. I feel less than.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. What's you're saying? What's the question?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what? Yeah, what happened?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's sexy. You ask. Wait, what's the question? Cause if a man is saying, I'm taking care of everything, and you got a woman who is. You're a man's man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'm a lady's lady. Of course I'm gonna wanna spoil you at times, but I would have no problem with you saying, baby, I wanna take care of everything. It wouldn't stop me from still buying you things and loving on you. But I'M gonna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When did the 5050 come into effect? Or when did we get to this notion that some of these restaurants and everything ain't gotta be mastro's or state 48? When did we, like. Oh, that is beneath me. You can't take me there.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So there's a two part question that I'm hearing. When did the 5050 become the thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right. So there's. That's a two part answer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

One part is when desperation start to become a thing with women. Where, again, anything, just a breadcrumb, please fall on my plate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'll even buy the breadcrumb and the loaf just fall on my plate. That's a woman operating from a desperate space of, I would do anything to have somebody. I don't care what it is or what I have to do. I'll take care of you. I'll pay a bill or two or three. You can move in with me. It doesn't matter. You can be the father of my kids and do nothing for these kids. As long as you come by and sleep with me once a week, I'm okay with that desperation. Then you have these other women who say, look, I'm with this man. He's a great man. He's faithful, he's loving. He's a family guy. He does well, but not enough to sustain my lifestyle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So he may pay for 60% of things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I don't mind doing the other four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's a whole different woman who's saying that I want to build with this man, and I see so much value in him that I don't mind making some monetary investments in us. Nothing wrong with that. Desperation, Big problem. Okay. But as far as you know, I think a man saying, I want to take care of everything. And you remember I was a kept woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I can say this. I was engaged twice. My first fiance, who was a great, great guy, he made money, but I was a breadwinner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay. The second guy was a kept woman. I wasn't always as respectful to the first guy. Where I was winning the bread and where I was in the more masculine role when it comes to bills.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I can't believe you was like that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

This is the truth. Let me tell you what happens, though. What happened when a man can't provide for a woman and he wants to, he naturally emasculates himself. Mm. And when you emasculate yourself, how in the hell do I respect a man who was emasculated within himself? Because remember, I'M just a mirror. Life is mirroring you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So as you become emasculated and you feel less than because you can't provide what you want to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Even if I didn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because we're provided. That's. We're provided.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Even if I'd ask you to. Now, how am I supposed to respect someone who doesn't respect themself? I'm gonna respect you at the level that you respect yourself. Doesn't mean that I'm calling you out your name. It just means respect level. Now, the second fiance who took. I was kept. I didn't buy a grape. I mean, I don't have car notes now, but I have car notes then to a G wagon, a Bentley. This man took over everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Everything? You ain't married, honey. Everything now. Hey. Be quiet. Mind your business over there. Mind your business over there. Everything. My love or respect for him was very different. Very different. Now, not that I denied either one of them, you know, love making in the home or. But the first guy was by all means necessary. I'm in college. I'm building my business. I'm making money. I'm in my bag. You're secondary. Kind of how you are with work. With work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you were denied him.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Not. Well, not intimacy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't denied that?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No. Not intimidating. Not neither one. I don't believe in that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

If I'm with you and we're intimate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not women. Y' all be doing that sometimes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't. I'm very submissive when it comes to that. If we did. If we. I'm not into casual sex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So if we are doing the do we gonna do it, then we are committed and we are together. I have full access to you and everything you got going on. And this. We are committed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sounds about right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So I don't need to deny you. My sex drive is so high that if I'm mad, there's no denying. We gonna do what we do now. Move past that. Okay. It's always been like that, even in my 20s and I'm in my 40s. So use your imagination. Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

What? Yes. Now, the guy who took full care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of me, he might circle back.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Please don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He might circle back. He hear you talk like this.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Do not. Do not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You go home. He. He right in the driveway.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Do not. Now. Now. I had a level of respect for him where I put work. Second, I couldn't wait to cook for him. There was times where he would get back from practice. It's 12, 1am at night, and we sitting in bed and he's like, babe, like, I want X, Y and Z to eat. And it wasn't him asking me to do it. I got up, put my gospel music on and was making sure I was cooking for this man whatever he needed when he was working. I would make coffee every single morning. And I was so submissive that you. I can just warm the coffee or put the damn milk in. No, he wanted the milk in first, the milk warmed up, then the coffee put in after. Now, how would he know I'm doing it that way? He wasn't in the kitchen. But I still did it that way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because, you know, that's what he liked.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because I know that's what he liked. And because the investments that he was making in us to cover me, to take care of me, how could I not make any and every investment that I had to show him that I'm grateful and that my position that he put me in as far as being kept was not taken for granted. And so there was nothing that he asked of me that I did not want to do. Meaning I wanted to do these things right. And I would even check in sometimes and be like, is there anything more that I could or not be doing? Whether it's from sexually to cooking, I don't eat red meat. He a black man. He love his pork chops and his steaks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the good old pork chops.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'm cooking all the red meat that I don't eat. And I'll just make me something separate on the side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But because this man created an environment that was safe. Now, not only was he paying bills, but this man was faithful. I have full access. Not only am we living together, but I have passwords to cell phones and social media. You sure you don't wanna go banking and bank account? I don't. And bank accounts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you ain't gonna find nobody better than he paying all the bills. Let you get the password, the account. Hey, babe, let me get your phone. Let me call my girlfriend. Here you go, babe.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He has two beautiful girls by two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He had the keys by two different women. And the girls were never an issue. He did a great job at the co pay and I gotta give miss Flowers. He did a great job at blending meaning. Like there was never baby mama drama. The girls were very respectful of me and me of them. You know, we did things as a family, so. But I say that to say there plays a role in certain women on how they can respect who they're with. I wanna say this to women, if you can't respect him, you shouldn't choose him. If the dollar amount that he makes is going to lessen your respect for him or lessen his value to you, don't choose him. If he needs to take full care of you for you to submit, he ain't the right one. You got to choose somebody who you know that every time you give them every single thing that you got, that you're doing it because you love doing it and it turns you on too. Every time I did something for that man, I was turned on. I don't remember doing one thing, Shannon, for him that I was like, oh, yeah. I mean, nothing. I mean, it was just, okay, baby, okay, daddy. To the point where. And folks gonna have an issue with this. I don't care. I would get dressed and wear certain things and we go out and do our. Wherever we go into a game or whatever to families. If he said, that's too much, I changed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Mm. Without a problem. He wasn't controlling. It wasn't. Take that shit off. It was like, baby, that might be a bit much. Yeah, no problem. To the point where I'd come out and be like, okay, is this good? Because he had me so safe, he had me so covered that I wanted to make sure that I reciprocated that same safety and covering for him. See, women cover y' all differently. And our covering is allowing you all to one, be exactly who you need to be. Right. To be in your full fledged of your masculinity and also to submit to your needs of us that are past just sexual and domesticated. If he had a request by me that wasn't abusive and I was okay with why does it matter? And if, like, he would say, if I am the only man you're trying to be sexy for, why does it matter?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

There'd be times where he would say, baby, don't wear makeup. Like, I like you with no makeup. It's gorgeous. Just throw your hair up and no makeup. Now. I love. I love to be daughter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love to be daughter. Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But I would do it for him. No makeup. Because I'm sure there's many times where I wanted Giuseppe boots. Or the Paris trip him and I took. Hold on. Or the trip to Africa we took. What that he. Probably not. Probably that I seen him have to work double and triple for that. He didn't hufflepuff about. There were times where this man got two jobs to make sure that Things were covered that I wanted. So me changing clothes or him having a request at something is minute to me. Seeing him put in the work to make sure that I'm happy beyond just having a roof over my head. And I think that, you know, and that was his first time taking care of a woman and he was 50 at that time. I was 14 years younger than him. I think that women state they want a safe space for them to be in their soft and their feminine. But on the flip side, men also need an environment that makes them feel very loved, submitted to, appreciated when they're taking care of your ass as well. I think it goes both ways. Yeah, it is definitely a reciprocal thing. And I think that when we get to a place of understanding that it's a win win situation in the relationship and then you start to see what the Bible talks about equally yoked. So yeah, I would take that offer again of being kept in love and the hell out of my man. It just has to be the right one. Not him, but the right one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you say it like that?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't want it. Listen, when I'm done, when I've gone on, I've gone on. It has nothing to do with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You've never spun the block.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, I don't really. I don't spin the block. No. What happens is I can have long term relationships and if we happen to, you know, have a break of something, like we're just no longer in relationship and then we happen to maybe get back into a relationship. Yes, but spinning the block meaning, like we just gonna go back and sleep together and do this thing? No, that's not how I. How I show up. No, no. Let me sip my dark.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you see, I know you saw it. Cause you know all things. That's what's going on. Summer Walker went viral. Cause she had a relationship with Rich, the kid who's engaged, and he saved her under Pizza Hut in his phone. I don't know what that means. Now, Pizza Hut used to have. This is before your time, but Pizza Hut used to have buffets. They have all the pizzas up there. And you just go get a slice of pepperoni, you know, whatever mushroom you get, ground beef, all that anchovies, just. I don't know what that mean.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

How did the fiance find out that she was Pizza Hut? Did we know that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't start me lying, okay? I'm just trying to figure out what. What is it about women and married men? Because normally married men, like, oh, she married. I don't want to Cause men are different. Hold on just a second. A man, he might not even his wife, he might not be. He might not be as interested as he was once before. But the moment another man show interest, you gonna have a problem, doc. But women. What is it about women that are attracted to married men? Because I just saw the study. They say women are more attracted to married men.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay, another two part question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

See, you're not messy, but you're crafty. First of all, men love married women as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do they?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

We're not gonna let men off the hook. A man will love to listen. A man would love to say, how you doing? Oh, I'm good. Can I get your number? I'm married. Oh, that's fine. It's all good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't have friends.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It's all good. You can't have friends. So we're not gonna make this a one gender thing. Men and women both. How about will cross that boundary and disrespect the sanctity of marriage equally?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think so?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The difference is the man who was saying, I don't care if you're married, is clearly boldly saying, I just wanna sleep with you. Okay, the woman who was saying, I like you cause you married, she's saying, at some point I want her position. Oh, and women are usually attracted to the married men who are good men to their wives, not faithful men.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Just good men through their transactions, not from their heart, because they're not committed. Commitment is a heart thing. That's a spirit thing. So transactionally, I see that you do the things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got cars, you got first. You got diamonds. Y' all go on trips. So if you do that for her, maybe that's, you know, I'll be the starting quarterback one day, and y' all.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Do it for her. Let me go further. Y' all do more for her than you do for the wife. Way more for her. I have clients who have the password to their married man's phone that the wife don't have the password to. She thinks that's a flex. You have the number because you know that he's married, so you know there's other women. That's not a flex. She don't have the password because if she finds out, guess what? He got something to lose with her. He ain't got shit to lose with you, sis. Cause you the side chick. And it's very rare that y' all leave the wife for who side chick. Very rare. That's a position that ain't up for grabs. Because even if he ain't attracted to her, the fact that he's even cheating on the wife is what makes him feel indebted to her side. Chicks are stupid to think it's the other way. I'm already cheating on her. I've already cheated on her multiple times. Cause that's not his first time doing it.

[Matt Rogers]

Mm.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

She has my kids. At least we have family over here. And the side chick is what gets me in a good enough mood to come home to her anyways.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I can't leave her hanging like that, baby, because then she wouldn't get my retirement. And I've already Done her wrong. So guess what? I'm forever indebted to her. So I can't leave this. This is why men say, I'm not gonna leave what I'm indebted to, but I can come over here and play. And oftentimes I found that the married man be in love with the side chick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

In love. And has still left her every time to remain at home. At home. It is a very dead end situation when a woman is attempting to take a position that ain't even up for grabs. They're just not up for grabs. It's not. You are this man's pacifier and you are what this man needs to survive his marriage. You are not his promised land whatsoever. And so those kind of women are women who are extremely broken. They have parental issues. They are definitely lost in the sauce. And there is no self love or self value or self worth there whatsoever. You cannot value yourself and see yourself in the position of two or three. Because if he got kids, that means you three. You can't be one or two. The wife and kids, the kids come, you're number three. So you have so much self worth that you want to be number three for a trip to Bali. When women nowadays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're in Bali. Nice though.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Women nowadays are making so much money on their own. Shannon.

[Matt Rogers]

What?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That we can take ourselves to Bali.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. You can take. Hold on. A married man can take a side chick to Bali. How he pull that off? Oh, hey, you know, me and the boys going to Bali. Me and the boys going to the Maldives or the Amalfi coast. How?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Shannon, don't you sit up here and try to follow the boy code?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I call it boy codes on purpose. Cause men don't have codes. Men are grown. The boy code. What you mean? I'm going to work to Costa Rica to check on the restaurant that we own out there for a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they got.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, and end up in a whole nother country.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I don't know nothing about that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Some men, okay, let's be real men who can move like that, have money called motion like that. You can't be broke. No, not you can be broke and have a couple side chicks in the hood. We talking about going to Bali and going shopping. So usually those men have to have businesses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And they're taking business trips.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, I see what you mean.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And they're different places. Okay. So I always tell women this. If a man is trying to fly you out the country or the state that he lives in to see you or date you. He has a wife or a woman. 100%. The first place you should be going when you visit this man is to his house, his casa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. If it ain't in his house, there's somebody else in his house. Whoa, hold on. Let me tell you something. Was dating somebody. And don't ask me who, because you know him real well. So mind your business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay. Don't be messy right now. You know him real well. And he takes care of his mother.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And so she's there often.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

My first time, him flying me to see him. He says, baby, do you wanna stay here knowing moms is here, or would you rather us get a room somewhere else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you like get a room?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I said stay there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? You can't do that with the mom in the house. You can't do that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

First of all, I'm not doing nothing my first time flying around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay, okay. I'll write.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Cause that's casual sex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I didn't know. Okay, my bad, my bad. No, that was very presumptuous with me. I'm sorry.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yes, that's okay. Take it back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I'll tell you. I'm sorry. I thought this was, you know.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But this is my thing. It was a test on his behalf for me, but it also gave me transparency because he didn't just say, my mom's here, I'll take care of my mom. Let me just put us in a room. Cause I would have said no to the trip. He welcomed me to his home and gave me an option because he's letting me know, ain't no woman here. You're more than welcome. So I came and stayed with him and mom and had a great time. A great time. And let me go further. You said, mom, is there any grown ass man your age?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Taking care of your mama. She not in the room next to you, baby. And your house better be big enough to where she in. Another quarter ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I feel bad.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm just saying. Do you get what I mean by.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do, I do.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

If a man is not inviting you to his home, he is not thinking about making you his home. That's just what it is. Why am I flying out the country or state to see you for the weekend or two? Fly me in when we are at your house. And after I visit at your house a couple times, we could talk about going to Florida or Miami or Costa Rica or Columbia. Until then, I don't wanna take a trip with you. I'm good because I have to have clarity that I'm not wasting my time. See, I have money. I can spend my own.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But I need to make sure that my time, which I don't get back, that I can't clock in or get another speaking event right back, is not wasted. And I don't want to be in a situation where I've allowed you to deceive me. Because every woman knows when a move, when a man moves a certain way, her spirit does something. Women just decide to go against it because they want that trip, they want that bag, they want that experience. We have to stop wanting experiences at the expense of our dignity, at the expense of our respect, at the expense of our. Of our self love. Absolutely not. And I also find to women and men don't hate this. And I'm okay with that. The more we hold off on what y' all usually want that thing, the more y' all do anyways. The more y' all give and the more y' all do. The only men who won't do more are the men who only want that. So if you want to vet them out anyway, sis, vet them out and watch them show up. A man should penetrate your heart and your mind before he ever penetrates your body. Then you will really experience the true essence of an orgasm. Anyways, I've had men say to me, which besides the best friend, the guy I just mentioned about flying out to his home with the mom, he was one of them. If I can't marry you, I don't even want to touch your body. Now that's a man who isn't a sucker. That's a man who is of age, a mature age, who is ready to have a wife. And he is no longer so superficial in his thinking that the best thing about a woman is her sex. He's finding value not only different in women, but watch this in himself. Because I only get to experience the parts of you that you've already given you. And so a man who only sees value in a woman being just sex is a man who doesn't see value in himself. It is just. We are just mirrors to each other. I see value in myself. That's why casually, you cannot make love to my body. Because I don't see value in casual sex. I don't see value in an orgasm without being connected to you, without being committed to you, without having access to your home or to who you are or what you do. I don't see value in that. An orgasm doesn't do it for me. But your Heart does. Your commitment does. Your time does. Right. Your thoughtfulness. Yes, that's what I want. Then you can take me to Bora Bora. Then we could be tearing Bora Bora up and you could be tearing me up in Bora Bora. But until then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Until then it ain't happening.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You gonna access me, love me, you're gonna pursue me, you're gonna court me. And I will do the same with you. And then by the time we do do what we're doing, it will be fireworks. People are having horrible sex too. Cause all they doing is casually and they're calling freaky good sex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And this is why nobody. But how come sexual relationships aren't even lasting if it's so good? Why y' all not the same person for years at a time? I'm confused. Because it ain't good. It's freaky. It's something you can get anywhere you go. That's what makes it casual. When you plug into a man or a woman and y' all are having real sensual sex, that is nasty. Not just freaky. You can't get that anywhere. That's a fusing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about nasty? Freaky.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You can do freaky and nasty. But as long as it's fused and connected on a deeper level than just casualty. And that means the orgasm isn't what we are thriving for. It's the act of and the engagement of the sex that's orgasmic within itself. See, that's grown people talk, you kids. Y' all having this little high school sex. Y' all doing that little rabbit shit still. We don't want that. We don't want that. You can keep that right over there. Right over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought the further the trip, the freakier and the nastier it got.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Doc, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That he hid him.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Come on. The further the trip?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

To my heart. To my safe space.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uh huh.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

To my mind. To me accessing everything, your cell phone, everything you have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Is the more sex we have, that's the nastier that a woman who loves herself and respects herself will get. The more that you create an environment that I can trust you in, that I am safe in. It's not about freaky. I'll never say no about whatever we. As long as I have the capacity to do it and take it, I will capacity and bound with you. But I gotta be safe. I gotta have access. And there has to be transparency, they say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read a study that say the more educated a woman is, the freakier she is.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Facts. How many?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just Saying, I read that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Facts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read that at Cosmo.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The facts. Shout out to Cosmo. Shout out to Cosmo. Cheers, Cosmo. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many degrees you say you got?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Six. Lord have mercy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you a guy when you go find. You got a good one. Hey, somebody. Hey. I'm just telling you, she say she ready.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Don't have them in my DMs getting shot down. They gonna be there talking about bull boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do men and women cheat differently?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

They do. They do. But I'll answer that. But do we care about the different ways of cheating, or do we care about the dismantling and the impact of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The act of cheating?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because it's. I don't care how you did it. I'm dismantled. Now my heart is broken. My safe space is scattered.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And now I have to learn to love myself different. And you. Because, see, if I didn't know you were a dog from the beginning, I was loving a good man. A good man eats something different, sleeps different, and I love you different. But if now I'm loving a Cane Corso, I'm feeding you different, Right? Right. I'm loving you different. And I have to become a different what? Person. So this is why cheating is so excruciating. Because it's not about. People always say, can we get the trust back? The trust back is way down here. After we work through all of these layers, can you learn to love a dog? Can you? If we're married and I cheated on you, can you learn to love a dog? Not, can you trust me again? Because trusting me means you have to believe that I'm no longer the woman that cheated on you. That's deception in itself. Can you love a woman who has deceived you and has the capacity to do it again? Because whatever I've done to you, I now have the capacity, right? Which means what? You now know what I'm capable of doing. Come on, baby. So can I love you knowing that you're capable of being a snake? Can I sleep in the bed with you knowing that you may not bark for six months, but in August I might hear a ruff, ruff. Oh, that's right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's who you were.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm with a dog. And now this Negro, this can. Corso needs that steak because he already got a taste of blood? Can I do that? If the answer is no, you have to dissipate the relationship.

[Matt Rogers]

Wow.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

If the answer is yes, then we have to talk about what that looks like. And it's going to look different on both of you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Because you might can forgive. Because this is what happens, dog. You might forgive, but you're not gonna forget. Cause the first time you get mad, you probably with that beef. You probably called that. You probably did this.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And now we and men cheat off of lust.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Women cheat, y'.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All. We cheat oftentimes. Because now we're vindictive on that bullshit. You did. Now, let me go further. Let me go further. We so cold. Your homeboy. I'll tell you how women work. Your homeboy, that was already looking at me five, six years ago, who I curved. Because I'm a good woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Cause I wouldn't do you like that, right? Because I was loving a good man and not a dog. Now, I said this to you earlier about cardi being offset.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Hmm. I've become a product of you. That means if you're deceptive. I became a product of what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, you gotta be deceptive. Or you could be deceptive. You don't have to be. You could be.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

There you go. This doesn't happen with everybody, but it happens with most people, men and women. I will become a product of my environment before it becomes a product of me. My environment will change me before I change it. That's just law. So if I'm with a man who cheats long enough, it doesn't mean every woman will do it, but it does mean this. The deceptiveness in her, you can then uproot. If it's in her. If it's in her, you are going to uproot it. Period. Now, whether she acts on it or not is up to her. But when a woman cheats just because she's cheating, not because of deception, it's not that we do it different. It's that the male counterparts, or for some women, they're cheating with a woman, the woman counterparts seem to be able to regulate their emotions better, right. With the woman who's married than. Let's just say women who are dealing with the married man. Because usually, remember again, the men who are sleeping with the married woman are sleeping with her for the sleeping compatibility, the sexual compatibility. But when a woman is sleeping with the married man, she has an end goal of taking that position, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Men ain't really looking like, oh, I want to be a hubby.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because you said it earlier, on a man who's trying to be a husband, he, like, he's turned off by a married woman. Cause he's not trying to go behind no other man anyways. No, that's a man who's like, I'm Just trying to swing in when I can. And that man usually already has something at home, even if it's not a wife. So that woman is already his overcompensation for what he already has. So it's a win win for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. How do you, how do people break up? Is there such a thing as breaking up amicably? Because, you know, sometimes, you know, look, and I was telling someone this, I said, breaking up is easy if you're the one that want to do the breaking up. When you don't want to be broken up with, it's hard, just move on. It's not that simple. When you still want to be in this relationship. Now, if you want out, why you hit the door and don't even look back at the door.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And sometimes you, when you want out, you don't hit the door and not look back. Sometimes you hit the door and you. Because I don't want to make it seem like the person leaving also isn't experiencing some heartbreak. You know, I left both my fiances and my first fiance, I left and I was very heartbroken leaving him. It took me almost a year and a half just to leave. And we worked through the leaving together until we both were like, and we're both crying in excruciating pain and tears. His parents are there trying to help us break up. What healthily, you know, so yeah, so this was in my 20s, my first fiance. But that was a very heartbreaking moment for him. And I. Right. It wasn't like scat and I'm good. The second fiance, it was easier for me, Right. Because I was already fed up and wanted out and knew that, you know, I started to dislike him as a person. That's what made it easier to leave.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right. I liked his covering of me, but I started to not like him as a man. So that's easier to leave someone because you're like, I'm just turned off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The first one was like, you're just a dope ass man and leaving you is challenging. And if you could be a provider and didn't have certain conditions that I'm not going to share about him. Right. Because I'm going to protect his privacy, then this relationship could be absolutely amazing. So that was challenging to leave. So I just wanted people to know that there are folks who are leaving who are bleeding while they leave too and they're not running out the door saying, oh, I'm out, I'm free. Now that is a coping mechanism. That is a mask and it's fake Right. Everybody leaving who is doing the departing is feeling something. They're feeling the detachment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It might not be the one. It might not be to the extent of the one that's getting left, but they feel something.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

They feel something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do have you. I think there was a situation you, Offset was in your dm. Have you revealed anybody else that's ever been in your dm? You put anybody on black.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that you said that Offset was in my dm and he just posed a question that said, hey, you know, maybe you can help me with something. He didn't say what it was. That's all he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And because he never followed through, I never followed through. We never did a session. He was never my client. When I shared that on Jason Lee's show, that was not a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, he was trying to slide.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It was not a breach of confidentiality, first of all, because he was not and is not my client.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So it was no breach. And he did not slide in my DMs, asking for anything that had to do with me. It was very specific to, you know, hey, maybe you can help me with something. He never said what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And so when I said that, I was saying that to more use Offset as an example, because I could. Because again, he's not my client, so that's not a breach of confidentiality to say, listen, other black men, being that Offset has a following, he's a rapper, he's in the limelight, he's, you know, he's attached to Cardi B. Asking for help is powerful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You can slide in a DM to ask for help. It doesn't have to be to ask for something else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And the fact that he did the appropriate thing and my intention was to give him props, now the Internet took it and made it something else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She tried to put it more.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I was trying to say, listen, this man, with all of his bad decision making, we gonna call it what it is. In that one moment, he was. He made a right damn decision, and I was giving him his flowers. And the Internet took it as, this is her client. She's. I ain't telling shit. He's not my client.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Neither one of us followed up. And that's just what it was. It was more saying he did the right thing in that moment. And no matter how many wrong decisions you've made and there, it's okay to make a right one, even if it's one out of 2,000, because that one right one could be the one decision that changes your life or Saves your life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you respond to a guy in your dm? Would you go out with somebody in your dm?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Um, would I? I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

We went on a nice date actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He is a fine young. He was younger than me too then. Boy. Okay, I'm back. Whew. Yeah, it was nice. We went on a nice date.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just one time. That was it.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

We went on one date. Cause I'm busy. He's busy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it don't matter. Bees are busy. People can find time when it's something they want to find time. That's what you just told me. Did she just tell me that? Thank you. Your friend and your assistant told me that's what you just told me.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, no, we just. It. He was in season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you like athletes, huh? Still do. Cause you told me you like athletes when you were younger.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

My ex fiance is a retired basketball player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uh huh.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So I mean, but it's not just liking, it's. I work out, you know, I like men who work. So it's just more of an attraction.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not what you like. You think the mom.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, I want to say this. I don't walk into a room and say I want an athlete. Those are the only guys I want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you attract.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's what I attract. But also that's what I'm attracted to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. Cause you think the moth want to fly into the flame. It can't help when it's attracted to.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So I am attracted to athletic men.

[Matt Rogers]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They work out. Like. Ooh.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

However, he probably could pick me up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I can do it.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He can pick me up. However. However. You know, what I liked about my ex fiance was that he was retired. Because I like time with my man. Yeah. And so there have been, you know, men who have attempted to date me who are still in season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I could be supportive in that. But that's a lot of time that's taken away from us, you know, for a woman like me. And I'm also busy. So anyways, the young man was great. We still talk. We're still good friends. We're still good friends because it was something very short lived and casual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But yes, it is something that can be. You know.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I think he's too young for me. Not in number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But in mindset. Sweet guy. But just too young for me. In mindset.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you did work publicly with Ray J. Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did. How was Ray?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I still do. I love Ray.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we've had Ray J. I had Ray J on the show.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I know why you say it like that. Cause Ray's best. Ray's my guy. Like, I. Me and Ray, I love Ray. Ray has been with me for a long time. Um, and Ray is just a person who is who he is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right. And that comes with a lot of misunderstanding.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But I always say this, and I've. I've said it to, you know, just people and even my. My assistant and best friend here, that when you build a relationship with Ray, you start to get a clear understanding why the people who love him love him. Because he's just that genuine of a person, and with whatever tactics he has and that he does. Ray's the type of man that when you are his person, like, meaning someone he loves as a friend or family or me being his psychologist, doctor. He's loyal. And that man, he will turn a table over for you. Ray will move a mountain for you. And it's because he loves so hard, honestly, and because he's so into that. I feel like sometimes the way that he shows it comes out very different than folks want to see it. And I just think that's what it boils down to. So, you know, I just love Ray. I have nothing but love for him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where are you on prenups? You good with a prenup?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Me giving it or me signing it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Both. You got assets you want to protect?

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm not signing a prenup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No. Now, will I have one drafted? Maybe, but I'm not signing one. Why? Well, why would I?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I just think, look, even before I had, I used to tell my homeboys, I said, y' all got a prenup. They say, shut up, we ain't got nothing. I say, so when you leave, you keep all your nothing. You don't want half of your nothing.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, I mean, look, I get it. If we in a relationship, we get to a relationship, okay? I got X. Mm. We get to the. We get into this relationship and I get Y. Z. Okay, I'm cool with that. But you not fitting to get X. I had X before I met you.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So a prenup that would be appropriate for me would be a prenup that lines out. If I stepped out and performed infidelity, this is the amount that will be paid out and it's not going to be pennies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

If we were to divorce amicably, right? Which I don't believe in that. So I'm never leaving unless, like the Bible says, two things that are permissible to leave, which is infidelity and death. And unfaithfulness. That's it, right? Otherwise, I'm not leaving. So we gonna work through everything else?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought death.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Mm. Well, death, do your part. But you still married in the covenant, you know, but. So if the prenup said if we were to divorce, then like you said, right? There's X, Y, and Z. Okay, Doc, you get Y and Z. You know, and maybe not X, but Y and Z is something that we could split. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not. What do you mean splitting? No, no, no. I'm not splitting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm talking about on the prenup. You gonna be lining out what exactly goes to me being your wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

For sticking by your ass, submitting, loving, making love, not denying and pouring into you. Cause I'm gonna give you everything I got. I'm gonna flip this whole table for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'm not gonna say no unless I don't have the bandwidth for it. Then it's just that I don't have the capacity. So in that prenup, you are gonna draw out if I cheat, this is the amount that you get. And it's gonna be a large ass amount. So that my heartbreak, they'll also feel broken in my pockets. One, number two, if you got X, Y, and Z, it's gonna be lined out that, let's just Say X is $20 million of a property. I don't mind if you say, hey. Then Doc gets 10 million of this one, and then of Z, Doc gonna get her 7 million. But it's gonna be lined out clear on what I'm agreeing to. There will be no prenup that says if we divorce, you get nothing. We don't marry. I'm not signing up for that. That is, to me, a woman who will sign up for that. I just feel like it's not that she's in it for love. I feel like she's been misguided.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And again, I had a father, so my dad would turn in his grave if I signed up for that. And he would turn in his grave if I didn't get a prenup. So I would have a prenup that said, hey, baby, you know, this is my stuff. And I couldn't see a man who is a man's man, like you said you are, like my father was. Who would have a problem with signing a prenup with me that said, I built all this. This is mine. I just don't see a man's man wanting that from me. Or from a woman per se. I just don't see that. I see now a different kind of man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You know, maybe saying, I want, but who. No, I wouldn't marry that type of guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you see these and this, you let me know what you think. I think like when you date publicly, you married publicly, and you outward with your relationship, when it ends, you know, it's gonna be public. We see Cardi. We see Cardi being offset. We see. I think Kandi Burruss just filed from a divorce. And, you know, it's starting to make its round. Where are you on public dating? Public marriage? I mean, I just think there's a lot of things that can be handled if it wasn't so public. Like, if we get into, you know, something might have happened, we might can handle it behind the scenes, but once it gets out into this public sphere, everybody got an opinion. You're listening, your family's listening. He's listening. His family, his homeboy, your homegirls. It's hard to put that thing back together, Doc.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. So I don't believe in public for myself until we're locked in, married, or maybe possibly even a ring on my finger. But I want to say married. I've dated, I've been single. I say meaning not out of my last engagement that I caught off my wedding for like 9,9ish years. I don't want timestamp, but it's been some years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But in between that, I have dated, you know, I have dated public figures like myself. And we. One thing I pride myself on is I do a really great job of keeping myself private. Nobody knows who I dated. The gentleman that I brought up, that I said, you know him well, he is extremely high profile and a public figure. And we weren't hiding it, but we just weren't being public with it. Right, right. And so we went to restaurants and went out and people screamed his name or my name, and it just was what it was and somebody would have got a photo. We didn't care. But I do a good job of being private. I think that the privacy piece is needed because to your point, you know, had I been public with everyone I'm dating, then I would have been having to delete, explain, you know, multiple relationships when really nothing is serious. In my opinion, if you're in a season of dating or even in the season of being committed as boyfriend and girlfriend until you are married with the covenant of God, I feel like there really isn't anything that you should allow people to be privy on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because you have a relationship, but to me, you really don't have any substance of value yet until you enter into that next covenant. So for me, nobody will be ever public on my page or on my platform until it is. And I haven't really had people to have an issue with. I mean, you got some people that kind of feel like, why are you hiding me? And I explain, it's not the hiding. It's one, the field I'm in. And two, the last person on my page was my fiance with the ring on my finger. Until then, not doing it. What about you? Do you. You don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, there you go.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I mean, do you go public? I mean, have you been public?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You ain't with nobody, so you. So to the public, you've never had a woman?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. Which. Cause. Which leads to speculation.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Well, we know that you have. You have done sexual things with women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, dawg, come on, dog. We still. I need another year. Give me one more year.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, I'm talking about. We heard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm saying I need another year from that. That's been a year ago. So two years. You gotta get two years, Grace. You can't. Yeah. Statute of limitations still on it.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay. Okay. Oh, so we didn't hear nothing? Did you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Shit. Backstrokes was good. Okay, I'm back.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Another guy that's been in the media a lot lately is Brian McKnight. In his situation, I guess he went on somebody's pod and was saying some things about Mark Lamont Hill. Mark Lamont Hill, Firebag says, I've interviewed you several times, and you were, you know, you weren't nasty to me, but you were nastier people on the set, so forth and so on. And then I guess, what did he do? He had a son, Brian McKnight Jr. But he had another son, recently, named him, and then took the son's name. So there's supposed to be like, he's Brian McKnight Sr. He had a Brian McKnight Jr. So he named his son Brian, gave him a middle name, and then took the name from the son.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But for what? What was the point?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what people tried to figure.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

What's the benefit of that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess he's really trying to remove himself from the past. I mean, you know, he was talking about his sons and that he's done all he could do. I don't know. It's just. Maybe you need to talk to him. Maybe you need to have him on your podcast. Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That he is trying to disconnect from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're older. I think one's like, probably like almost three.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But this is his biological son.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And he wants no dealings with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess they had a. You know, I guess they had a falling out about something.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But see, that's what I mean by some things are not privy to be public.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I think that is a conversation between a father and a son.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because if we want to be realistic about family and parenting, there are some times where a parent and child can go a week or two or sometimes months without speaking because of whatever that parent may feel needs to be done based on consequences for that child to fail. I'm not saying Brian's right or wrong, but those are things that should stay private. Now, if he feels like he has to pull back because something his son has done as a parent and that is gonna be for the benefit of his son, I see nothing wrong with that. But if he's doing it because he's saying, I don't want to have any type of involvement with you as my biological baby and my bloodline, I think that's something that needs to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's odd, though, that you have a junior, but then you have another son and name him and give him a different middle name than what you gave the other son and then end up taking the new son's. It's not. I just think that's.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, it just. I mean, it seems off, but I also remember we don't know people's motives and what is in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he said he was never in love with his ex wife.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I mean, but what the hell does that have to do with the child?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess. I guess because unlike your mom and dad to say you was conceived out.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Of love, because I was going to say something. You know what? I also have found most of the time that that father loves that child at the level that he loves the mother of that child. And you can see the difference in those relationships. And if y' all don't believe me, take some inventory. A lot of times when that father really loves that mother, that child gets a different type of relationship and love from that father. It's just been proven and it's unfortunate. But you just said it here with B. McKnight that, you know, I wasn't in love with the mom, and so he automatically feels some type of detachment from that child. And it's showing and it's unfortunate. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not the first family to. I just hate when people. It becomes public. Because people are gonna look at him a different way to, like, you know, I just hate. I just hate when private matters become public.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. And then the public makes it worse, I feel like. Because then it makes people take on a public TV personality.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And you start to behave in ways that aren't even your true authentic self. Right. And so it's like. And then you feel like you have to respond, which you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because it's no one's business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You know, especially when it comes to kids and family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You don't owe anybody an explanation. An explanation when it comes to your child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You still wanna have kids, Doc?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I do. I am. How many now? Listen, it was four a while ago. I think I'm maybe down to two. Cause if I can do twins, if I could do. Don't knock on my door.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a clock. That's the clock. That's a clock. Ticket. What you waiting on? Oh, you don't. You don't. I don't wanna be a. I don't wanna get a person. But you froze your ass.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm still bleeding and I'm not in perimenopause.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm not in perimenopause. My period comes. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you couldn't.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you couldn't.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

My menstrual comes every 28 days. On time. On time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you could have just said, you know what? Yeah, I froze my eggs.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Shannon. On time. That thing like clockwork, huh? Like that. Like, do that again. Like. Like that. On time. Ain't no perimenopause over here. Ain't nothing dried up over here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, but how long are you willing to wait, doc? Look, look.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

22. So I said earlier this year that I was now my choosing stage. And so I literally said, okay, I'm now gonna choose because, you know, I liked my space and my season of, like, building my career coming out of calling off my wedding. And I was very honest with guys. I never said, you know, manipulating was like, oh, we dating to get married? No, I was very honest about, you know, we're dating, spending time. But this is what I'm focused on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And that focus paid off. And so I am now in a place that I told myself when I was a younger woman, I want to be here before I do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And you're here now. I'm here now. And this is the thing. I'm not saying this from a place of bragging or trying to. From arrogance, but from a Place of humility. I think if more men and women map out their life, life is life. Now, it ain't going to come out perfect. But if you say, I want to reach these milestones before I do this, I feel like you have a better chance and better odds of success at family and at career and business versus just letting life give you whatever crumbs it gives you. Because it's already given the people like me who are asking and curating what they want, what we want. So you get the crumbs that we said no to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Don't do that. But now, you know, it's only been probably about six months since I said, okay, God, I'm ready. You know, I took my IUD out. I'm in my choosing stage. I'm ready to rock and roll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You took it out?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I took it out. Gone out. The doctor, I said, show it to me, doctor, show it to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was like, hey, guys, be careful. She say she still have a cycle.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And they ain't got to be careful. It would be an excellent investment, but it can't be casual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Be careful, guys.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Be casual. You need to tell me to be careful. Because the way these men are set up, they worse than women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A man, they try to trap you.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

A man will try to put a baby in a woman who's successful, especially no kids. And beautiful. Shannon, you act like you ain't. You act like you stay on One House on the Block. Stop acting like that. You a man. And you know men.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Let me tell you. And it's not just broke men that do it. You got men who are well off who go beautiful, no kids, look like she's 25, can't wait to put one in you real quick. And a lot of times it could be the men who already have the damn kids who are saying, but you are who I want to be stuck.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With, then that'll keep an attachment to you.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Hello. There's a why not into casual sex, especially now that my IUD out, ain't nothing coming through. Casual. You hear me, right? Nothing. Yeah, but I'm excited and I can't wait. And I'm hoping that it happens, you know, by next year and I can be on tour with my little belly and happy and. Or happier, I should say, because I'm very happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You happy right now.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I think that's it, too. When you wait and you find what I call God's peace, and you're real happy. People are not in competition with your desperation. They are now in competition with the Healthy self of you, which means your choosing becomes a little more slim, right? But your relationships become a lot more prosperity, prosperous. Prosperous than you choosing from a place of, like, I'm young, there's a clock. But I mean, you look at Abraham and Sarah in the Bible, yeah. God kept his promise. And because Sarah jumped the gun and said, get Hagar the maid pregnant, because I don't believe God to deliver his promises, Hagar got pregnant and had Abraham's first son. And then as soon as she got pregnant, guess who got pregnant? Sarah. And Sarah told Abraham she got to go. And Abraham said, baby, you got to go. Just for Hagar the maid to come back. And now they in a house that's now a broken home. Because Sarah, not Abraham, he just listened to his wife, said, baby, God's taking too long. Get the maid present pregnant. And as soon as Sarah got God's promise that he never, ever pulls back from him and never returns, void, guess what? She wanted her gone. So you not gonna see me being a Sarah who says, let me jump the gun and take over God's timing. And then I end up choosing a man with kids. Or I end up jumping the gun with some other man. When God said it was probably only gonna be about six more months, baby, it might have only been another year, but you already in a good place. You already happy. You can't wait on me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many. How many men should a woman entertain? She's not. She's eight. She ain't been locked down. How many? One, two.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Entertain. Meaning date.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So I don't condone women having sex with multiple men, but I do wanna say y' all do what you do. You grown. It doesn't mean I'm judging you. Um, but as far as dating and getting to know, I think a woman should entertain as many men as she wants in the.

[Commercial Narrator]

Dating.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, dating means we're going on dates. We're not exclusive. And I'm getting to know you. And I don't know if I. If I don't know if I like you. I don't know if I like this man yet. I think women should do. Now, me, I tend to. I tend to go on dates or talk right. To maybe one or two. But once I find that you have my attention, it's just challenging for me to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you tell them to not lock.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

In with just you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You tell them. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Or I just don't just. You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ghosted.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, you don't ghost. But people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So there's you're starting to pull back, huh?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. There's a different. There's a different sequence when you're not locked in, where you may talk once in a while and you kind of know what's going on. Or like, when I text Shannon, he texts back sometimes. But if it's like every day we talking, then you gotta have that conversation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But I like exclusivity. So even if we're just dating and we're locking in, I like a we thing. I like a us thing. I don't like anyone outside of you or me until we decide either we not going through with this or we going or we are. I don't like scattered energy that feels safe for me. And then again, I'm not into casual sex. So if my spirit feels like you're not fully here, then I'm not turned on to be intimate with you. Not even just sexually intimate, but intimate with our conversations or with my time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Is it like. Is it true that you terminated a pregnancy as a teen?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I terminated two pregnancies as a teenager. Yeah. My father played a big role in that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause the women, I think the women. I read the women wanted you to keep the children.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So does this. Did that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Shannon did his homework on the dock. Y'. All, this man get an A plus plus plus plus.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did that. Those pregnancies early on, has that shaped how you think now?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It has, but it wasn't because I terminated them. It was because I had a covering, which was my father. Because my mother and grandmother were crying, saying, keep it. And my father was saying, not on my watch. And I leaned more with my father's choice because nobody was forcing me with his choice. And his exact words were, you may hate me now, but you'll thank me later. And when I got in college, I think my sophomore year, I called him. I said, daddy, thank you. And he said, for what? And I said, because you made the right decision for me. And so for me, it more shaped my trust in men who can lead. Because he led me into a promised land. Right. That allowed me, and I always say this, that allowed me to beat the odds. Didn't mean the odds didn't come against me, because they did. It allowed me to beat the odds. It allowed me to not be a statistic. It doesn't mean women who have kids already or who kept yours and didn't terminate, that you're bad because you're a statistic. But if we gonna speak real, you are a statistic. If you are a little girl from the hood and you end up pregnant as a teenager. That's called teenage pregnancy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And my father allowed me to beat odds that were against me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did you. I mean, were you nervous, were you not nervous to tell your father that you were pregnant? Feel like he. Because you his the apple in his eye and his little girl that he adores, that he loves so much, is expecting and it's not the first, not the, you know, one time, okay, baby, that's an accident. Accident can happen. But then it happened again. Were you afraid to tell him? Were you ashamed? What were some of the emotions that you felt as a teenager?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that question. So my parents, and my father in particular, he's not a shame you type of father.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He's a very. If you love me, I'll love you more. If you're honest with me, you'll get more out of me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And so I knew he wouldn't be ashamed of me, but I did know that he was going to keep it 100% real with me. And I knew that what he seen was me becoming a product of him and my mother and me becoming a product of the woman that he made a product of him, which is a baby mama and a baby daddy. And because he knew the pain, the heartbreak that those women experienced, he couldn't see his little girl having that same experience. And so for him, again, he was crucifying who he was to tee up what was best for me. And that is what a parent does. That is what a great father does. And I gotta go a little further. Not only did he say, this is the decision that you need to make, but he was the first along my parents face, the last face I seen walking in to termination. And they were the first faces I seen walking out. And my dad took me to eat after and he, baby, how do you feel? Are you okay? You know, what's the plan moving forward? So he didn't just tell me the decision. He was there with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He walked you through everything?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He held my hand through it. And when I walked out, I got to see that man's face. And I asked, could the boyfriend. Cause it was my boyfriend.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Did you tell him?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, the boyfriend knew. I asked could he come? Cause we were in a relationship. This wasn't a dad all through, like for years. My dad said, do you want him dead? I said, well, then, no, I guess he can't come. But I had to give that to my dad. I mean, he was a father like he's not trying to be next to this dude who is even touching his daughter's body. So I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's one thing to think about it, but now you and I gotta see you here. I already know what he's been doing.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. And my dad, again, we had an open relationship where I can talk to him about anything. And so his support in that is what allows me to be the submissive, loving, trusting woman of you men. And that's why I don't have a. You know, I'm not going to submit to you. What can you do for me? It's. I love submitting to you. And that comes from a little girl who had a father who submitted to me, right? And through his submission to me, he taught me the value, right? And the beauty of submission. And had he not did that as a man, I probably would have used submission differently. And he also would have me do acts for him, like make his plate or make his drink. That taught me how to submit to a man, right? And when his drink got low, I would watch as a little girl, I would watch and I'd be like, daddy, you want more? And he'd be like, yeah, baby, go in and get me some more. And I knew. Two ice cubes. I knew how much jack and how much coke. I knew when his plate got low on food, it was a re up or a throwaway. There's just things I knew when he was emotionally not in the right place. And he taught me because being a man in my presence, I knew how to say, daddy, it's okay if it's financial, like, we'll be all right, or is there something you need me to do? So this is why men are so important, man just in women's life and in their boy's life. Because he taught me how to navigate through a man's emotions. He taught me how to identify when those emotions are off kilter. And he also taught me what he needed to be said as a daughter. And so when my fiance had an issue, my last one, and he just sitting on the couch with ESPN and them top 10 planes, you know, he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, over and over, I sat on.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The couch right here, literally. And he said. I sat here and I just put my hand on him. I said. And he just. He ain't look at me. I said, baby, I don't know what it is, but I want you to know, whatever it is, even if it's financial, I'm not leaving you and I love you and we'll get through it. And he Was looking. How you looking? And I'm sitting here. He did this. And tears just rolled by. In that moment, I was a product of my father. A product of my father teaching me what a man needs. When women don't get that, we don't know how to navigate that. And a woman who doesn't get that can easily take that as that man is disconnected from her. And she can start to ask him egocentric questions like, what's wrong with you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

What did I do? Why are you not telling me? Why aren't you talking to me? I knew in that moment there was nothing that that man wanted to say to me or anybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

He was having a moment. And all I needed to do was reassure him that I'm not going nowhere. You're not gonna lose your woman. And whatever else you just lost. And whatever I have to do to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold it together, I am going to.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Rise to that occasion to make sure that we are good. That's why that man felt so good about taking care of me. That right there. Cause he knew the value of who we had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How different do you believe your life would have been had you not terminated those pregnancies? Would you have. Would Cheyenn Bryant be sitting right here today with all these advanced degrees, with all this popularity and fame and all this money? Would you have been the same person?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I would have been a different woman, yes. But I would have still wouldn't have got that shit. Cause I'm built like that. I may have even went and got more. I'm just saying. Cause I had two little ones to feed. But I will say this. I would have married much earlier.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because I would have took one for the team. And I would have made sure that my babies had a home that was complete. And so who I would have married, it wouldn't have been the teenage boy, the teenage boyfriends. Don't laugh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'd have done had your photo, that's for sure.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You might have been five or six.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's the thing. It would have forced me to make a decision quicker than I wanted to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I would have chose what was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Best for them for right then instead of the loan.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And not for me. This is where I tell women the leverage of waiting is. And the power is right now I am in the pit of my power, not in my biological clock. Because I am choosing for me and obviously for my babies, secondary who are not here yet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But I'm choosing a husband with just me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And that's it. And I can choose to be A mother or not to at any point in time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's power. And I'm now choosing from a place of wisdom, not just experience. Forget accolades and degrees. I'm choosing from a place of my healthy, me from a place of being. A woman who has experienced relationships. And my husband now gets to get a grown ass woman who's processed through her stuff and still got a lot more. Because ain't nobody perfect. Not a little girl who's trying to figure out who the hell she is and where does she land. Those are two different people, right? Two different people. Now, would I still wear his ass out if need be?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But the little girl would have told him a whole new one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You don't want her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You don't want her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about sex arguments? Sex after arguments? Yeah. No.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So again, I keep saying this disclaimer just because it's for me personally. All right, ladies, I want y' all to casual sex. All you want. For the grown folks. Sex after an argument and we're together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It needs to happen as quick as it can because I'm a love bug. So I don't like to be disconnected from you. I don't want to be in a negative space with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. You tried. You tried to make me feel. You tried to forget. Make me forget what we argued about.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's fine, too. But I just need. I need you to love me. How? Like this. Okay. Like that? Like that. So if we arguing, we like this, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gotta be up close.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, I need skin to skin. I want you in my skin. Let me tell you something. You see that zipper you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm the type of woman. I want you to unzip it. I want to hop in it. And what I want you to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Zip it up and this.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I would be in there just like this. And then when we have to depart. I didn't say want to. Have to. Yeah, you can unzip it. Not for a shower. Cause you can get in with me. We're not talking about me doing things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, nah, y' all water be too hot. Y' all be cooking lobster and crab in that hot ass water.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'm even talking about just an intimate shower. I'm not talking about we have to do all the dudes just get in the shower.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no. That nobody getting. I'm at the back. It's cold back there.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

See, that's your selfish ass. Look at your selfish ass. See, look at you. Stand in the cold for a minute because Your woman want a damn shower. Shannon, take one for the team. We're switched.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And then when we get out, we cuddle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. What I was thinking about, though, Cuddling.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Comes with the lovemaking. You're talking about. Yes, yes. But you have to start involving your heart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm gonna do that so that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It ain't just sexual. Yeah, see? I'm gonna do that. You ain't ready yet. We need more sessions. We need more sessions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see that study that came out? Sex before work leads to better productivity.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I agree with that. I think that I could see that that means morning sex. For the most part. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's exactly what that means.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Now, I will say, is this. Women, I'm finna advocate for y'.

[Commercial Narrator]

All.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay? I got you. I've been listening. This ain't just. This ain't for me, but it's for y'. All. If y' all could roll over, assume the position, get it in, do your thing, and get up out, More women would say yes. Not every woman, which I am. This woman, I don't mind the full act of sex in the morning, right? Because I am a sexual person with who I'm with, right? So I like the act.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It's not just that, but a lot of women are like, I gotta go to work too, buddy. So can you roll over? Not expect me to do a full production. Yeah, and get your shit so you don't look quick. That's why you laughing. You can't get on with your day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look quicker.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Huh? Most women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do y' all like quinkies?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Most women, I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they don't.

[Matt Rogers]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. I thought, well, who that? Missy Ellis said, I don't want no one minute. One minute, man.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Well, it's gonna take you more than one minute to roll over and do your nine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nine in the morning, nothing.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But there you go, see? Then you'll be the perfect match for a lot of women. Cause when I'm in session, most of my wives are saying, I don't mind it in the morning, but I got work, too. And he's taking too long. Now, the women who are saying, start earlier. The women, they don't wanna work earlier. Cause that sleep is what they need. Cause they gotta go to work and come home and also be mothers and be a wife to your ass. So there has to be some type of compassion for the fact that I'm already letting your hands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got the kid this afternoon.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Can you shit, please?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got the kid this afternoon.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's what y' all say, then y' all fall asleep and we have to feed their asses cause you coming up short.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The biggest difference between Dr. Cheyenne Bryant in her 20s and her 40s.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Exactly.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right?

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Psst.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Woo. I knew you was gonna come with a good question. You so good. You too good at what you do. 20 year old Cheyenne straight shooter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can see that. Still are though.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. I'm gonna tell you different. Straight shooter, but probably bullets flying at everybody, right? 40 year old Cheyenne straight shooter knows her target. 20 year old Cheyenne, outspoken because she has a message that she wants to land and she's not really considerate or compassionate about who it lands on or how it lands. I should say 40 O' Cheyenne awareness. And very calculated on her message. The delivery.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The delivery is much better now and.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

How it impacts you because I want to make sure the impact is coming from my true intention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

20 year old Cheyenne was a lot more conservative than I am at 40. You think I'm big on no casual sex now? Whew. I was very relational, but I also had a fiance my whole time, right. And I was, I was less emotionally regulated then so I could be a lot more fiery and dominant in my relationships. And in my 20s, my submission hadn't peaked yet, right? And then my 30s was when I was with my ex fiance who took care of me and my submission fully peaked. And so in my 40s, I am very emotionally regulated. My emotional intelligence is extremely high and I am, you know, extremely submissive. And it's not submissive because I'm waiting for you to create an environment. It's. I'm submissive because that's who I am internally, innately as a woman. Right. And so it's nothing you can do to make me not submit. It's just if I can't submit with you, I probably won't choose you because I gotta be with who I can be soft and submit to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And so lastly, the 20 year old Cheyenne. I was a nest. I was a nest. And that's probably why I ended up with the guy who made money but wasn't the breadwinner because I was the nest. And equally yoked means he can't be the nest too. Now I'm a nester. So I am nesting in you. And it's not that I'm waiting to see if you're a nest. I'm nesting in you because that's just my position. Now if you consume that role or not, it's up to you. But I'm nesting in you. And it's soft and it's safe. And lastly, one thing that's in common though, 20 year old shine and 40 year old shine was never looking for a safe space. I already knew very early on that I was at safe space. And so I bring that with me everywhere I go. And so, yes, I want you to add to that. Right. And don't attempt to dismantle it because it's mine. So you can't. But I don't need you to come in and I'm sitting here in fear until you create this space that I can nest in. That's not how it works at my age.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, the man that's gonna make a home, create a family, same age, little younger, little older.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because I don't. Because I want a man who doesn't have children yet. He would probably need to be about my age or younger. But I haven't had a problem with meeting men with no kids. I always say people's limited thinking is what gets in their way. Right, right. And so if you think there are no men with no kids, then you're right. I happen to know that I'm not looking for men with kids. I'm not polyamorous. I only need one. And if anyone is going to tell me that one man, there ain't one man, that dude with no kids, who does well and he's a great human.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Between the ages of 38 and 45, that's only 30 and 45, that's what she's looking for.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Get the up out of here. Yeah. That's crazy. That's like saying one person ain't gonna buy like this. That's crazy. We know you looking for a lot, but we're talking about one. So. Yeah. And I don't mind even like 35, 36, as long as the maturity is there, you know, and because I've learned in, you know, a lot of these younger men in that 35ish range, even a little younger than 30, they are a lot more mature than a lot of these men who are 45 and up. They're not stuck in their ways. They are very flexible. They open doors, they know how to date. They are actually hunters, like men used to be. They're calling, they're texting, they're love bugs, they want to get married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're all, they like the old school, that we the old guard, we the hunters.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. And let me say this, not only women, but men in their 30s are the new generation that don't have baby mamas. You'll be surprised at how not thirsty for sex and women these younger men are. Meaning like they are literally saying if we can't Date or if we can't have some type of out of the bed romance, I'm turned off. There's so many young men who are like, women are just throwing the pussy at me. Versus back in the day, it was men were the, you know, were chasing the dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And that's a turn on for me. And you have the older men who are just kind of like, look, it's kind of like you're saying, I'm working, I'm doing me. What you see is what you get. And I definitely want the intimacy as far as sex with you, but I'm not sure if I can commit. I'm not sure if my old ways will allow me to, you know, to maneuver or to transform into what's needed for a relationship. And you're finding studies have shown the older woman and younger guy is having the higher success rate when it comes to a healthy marriage and absence.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I beg your pardon?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The older women and younger men, they're finding that that success rate has actually outdid the older man and younger women. Oh, yeah. Oh, really? And think about it, Shannon, though. The older us, older women, we actually keep ourself up a lot better than the generation of older women did prior to us. Right. And so we are working out. I mean, of course there's other augmentations that can be done. And I'm not knocking nobody. That women are willing to do the self care is there. Women are taking care of their skin. I mean, it's just. It's a whole nother world for women right now in the sense of how they keep themself up. And so there is no competition for us when it comes to young women because we really are those women like that 35 to 45. And I've even seen women at 55 where I'm like, yeah, sis, I seen them. What are you doing? And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Tracee Ellis is one of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Most of the women who are gorgeous and still doing their thing and have that glow, they ain't been married and they don't have no kids. I'm just saying. I'm just saying we out here glowing.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a lot of y' all out.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

There not stressed out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Very sexual, very happy, very loving, very rich, very well taken care of. Dating. No. Having our way. Very happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I'm not saying that there's not happy marriages because there are. But when you choose from that place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You calibrate like minded, like vibrational energy. You're less likely to get somebody who is not happy, who's not healthy. You repel a man who's out there womanizing and doing certain things because that man also knows he can't sustain that quality of women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you think men are lonely?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I think men and women are lonely. I think both are. I think that again, we are in an over sexualized culture right now and sex satisfies the flesh like it's been doing you. It doesn't satisfy the heart. Our satisfaction comes from the heart. The heart already knows what you want. Half of us just are too afraid to let it have that because we don't know how to navigate it at the mind intellectual space. But the heart is saying, but that right there is going to make me fully complete, fully satisfied. So yeah, I think people are just lonely. I think because folks are operating from this transactional space and everything is transactional, either sex or, you know, a bag or prostitution or not. And there's no relational things happening. And I think relational experiences is what really makes the heart full.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Michelle Obama, former first lady Michelle Obama said, America's not ready for a woman president just yet. So get out my face.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I heard it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you think America's ready for a woman's president?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't think it matters what America's ready for. America thought they were ready for Trump and obviously we were very unprepared and ready for this type of leadership.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I think what America needs is a little younger leadership. I'm not saying 20 or 30, I'm just saying younger than like Biden or Trump.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Even if it's the 40, 40 to 50 ish range, it could be male or female.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause Bill Clinton is younger than both of the last presidents and he was president 25 years ago.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right. And Obama was one of our youngest presidents. And so. But I think for the right woman, yes. And it could not be Michelle, but I love Michelle. But I think that what we do need is a change in leadership. And a woman would be a great change in leadership. And I do think that a woman leading doesn't mean that the leadership will be soft or the leadership will be less led. I think that for the first time in history, that leadership will be different than what we had. And if there is any time but now where we need different, this is the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, at this current time, there's anybody can be president. There's not a political office that you can't hold, no matter whether you think you're qualified, whether you're black, whether, whatever, whatever your political affiliation is. What we've seen is that. Let me ask you this. Cause I've always. Cause she's caught a lot of criticism online. And I want to hear your expertise on what she's trying to say, Ayesha Curry. Because when she says that, man, I didn't really see myself as a wife. I was like, in this career, I'm going to be this entrepreneur. I'm going to be this. I don't think she's saying she didn't want. She don't want to be married. She's upset that she married Steph Curry and has this beautiful family. But what can you deduce from what she's trying to say?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

What I heard, which is exactly what you said. Nothing more or less. I just heard her. I heard her being a woman with a voice. And it's kind of when you said, how come women can have preference but men can't? Right. From your experience in the world. And I can see that. I don't believe that to be true for me, but I can see that perspective societally with the constructs. When a woman speaks out against the societal norms of a woman being domesticated or being a wife or being a mama, then she sounds ungrateful for having this wonderful husband who's providing and taking care of her. Because that is most women's dream. Right. But there are other women like myself. Right. And probably her too, from what she said, that their dreams are not limited to a position of a wife or a mother and to just being this person's wife. And where I do understand her is that I told God early on my years, I said, God, I would love to marry a man of affluence and a man who does well. But I don't want to be known as, let's just say, Shannon's wife. I want to be known as like, this is Shannon Sharpe. And you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And this is Dr. Bryant.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Hyphenated Sharpe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you gonna keep your last. Oh, so you will hyphenate the last.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay. You know, I mean, I've already built this thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was just checking.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And this is his wife. And people go, oh, I know exactly who you are. You're the one that produce. Or you're the doctor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Or if I introduce myself. Oh, that's Shannon. He's the hall of Famer. Like, you did your thing. We love your show. Power couple.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right. And so I see her saying that she wanted to have what he had the luxury of having. He has a wonderful career and he has a wonderful family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Family.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

She has A wonderful family. How come she gets. She gets deemed for saying, but I want to have the same equality as my husband.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All I'm saying is love being a mama and wife. Cause she's obviously doing a damn good job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, obviously. Yes, kids are great.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

But how come I can't also want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why can't I have both? He has both. Why can't I? Why I gotta be relevant?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And he has both? Because she sat at home and allowed him to build one and she built the other. That she is allowing him to also take credit for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because we know he'd been on the road. Not that he ain't been a great father. Cause I love Steph Curry. But what she's saying is I should be able to, now that my kids are. They're of age. Them kids look kind of grown to me. Go create what I want. And she did try. She started doing magazines.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, she did. I think she got cookware.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, she tried. And so I think there's nothing wrong with her saying, look, I have aspirations, too, and I'm not gonna take away from what I've already been excelling at, but I'm also excellent at other things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We had two young men, black men, Kyron Lacey and Marshawn Meala. And we kind of briefly touched on it. Not those guys specifically, but mental health in the black community. Do you think there were signs that these young men were dealing with something? Come to find out, I think the police in Louisiana said something about he caused an accident that caused someone in his life. And the reports about he was about to get indicted, and it was just overwhelming. Neyland just had scored his first touchdown on a Monday night game. And then all of a sudden, his girlfriend is calling frantically saying, he's gonna end it. He's gonna end it with the black athletes and mental health. Because I think now more guys are getting more black. Let's speak to that, because this is. Our community are starting to get in touch with their emotions. Starting to get in touch. Not as much as. Not. Probably more need to. But we are starting to see that shift where black men are not so rigid. Like, man, I don't need. I'm fine. My daddy didn't do it. My grandfather didn't do it. What do you think caused the shift? And how can we prevent the Marshawn Nealons and the Kyron Lacey situation?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You said something really, really, really, really primal. You said that back in the day, black men would just pretty much shove their emotions down, right? And they would not allow them to come up so they didn't have to see him or face him, which means they didn't have to feel them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The suicide rate was way lower then. The suicide rate is high now because you just said black men are getting more in contact with what their emotions, that emotion that's tied to trauma, that emotion that is tied to pain. And when that comes up, they have to feel it and they have to face it. And when there's no place to dump it or place it, then they eat it and it internalizes. Anything that we internalize at some point is going to externalize in some form of action, whether it's them ending up in jail because they beat the shit out of somebody. Domestic violence, which is a big one in sports, especially NFL, or suicide, unfortunately. Right. Or deep depression. And so I think that what needs to happen is what I am so, so, so honored to be able to provide, like I said with the Steelers and the Browns, with the players, a safe space where I am allowing them to not just feel what they feel, but externalize it. And I'm holding space for that, and I'm helping them feel it and understand what those emotions are and also teaching them what to do with those emotions. For example, there's one of the young players has some emotions around his family using him, and there's some addiction involved and different stuff. Right. Within his parents. And he has a lot of emotions behind that about him being used. But he also has emotions behind him saying no because guilt comes in, right? Because there's a sense of, in the black community, entitlement. I'm supposed to take care of my family no matter even if they didn't help me or do for me, you know, otherwise I'm looked at as what, the sellout or the dude who didn't do nothing for no one. And so he's dealing with the duality of I'm being used and it feels horrible, right, to be taken advantage of by my parents who did nothing for me. But I feel guilty when I say no. So what I mean by helping him is helping him identify those emotions and then teaching him how to set boundaries that help him regulate his emotions. See, boundaries are not for people. They're for us. And they are emotional regulators, which says, look, Mom, Dad, I'm going to give you this amount a month. That's all you get after that. Him and I are still working on what the guilt that comes from when they ask for more. Him saying no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That may sound like a small problem to people, but to your point, that Small problem to us puts that boy in a dark space of depression. And if we don't see that sign as big because it's small to us, that suicidal ideation can turn into the act of suicide and depression turns into suicidal ideation. And so my job, and I feel like it should be all of our jobs, I mean every human. Because mental health is a human right, not just a one race or gender right, but especially within our black community, is what I said early on. The check ins need to be deeper than just you good when you know they're not good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Stop asking people that. What's going on with you? Talk to me or talk to somebody else. I'm not leaving until you talk. No, I'mma sit here until you express something. I'm going to call you. I'm on my way. Well, let's take a drive. Well, let's go have coffee, let's go have tea. Let's watch a movie. Right? Those things have to be where we show more care and compassion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I have to do it with the guys, Them guys sitting there. And a lot of them are just like, you can tell it's at the tip of their tongue. And I'm still pushing and pushing and poking. I even sometimes appropriately confront them and say things that are completely rude and off that I know will trigger them. Because if I can trigger the emotion to come out, then we got it to be externalized. I just need to come out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You need them to verbalize.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I need it to come out. And I need you to know it's okay. So we have to start creating safer spaces for our loved ones. And loved ones don't mean someone you live in a house with all you love. I'm talking about you see someone on the street and you're just a loving person that looks like us. The check ins should be there when I see a man get off the plane with a cane and he's a black older man. I have waited next him until his wheelchair came and said, I'm a wait with you. And he goes, you are. But that's just me checking in with this older black man because you're here with nobody. So I am responsible as a black woman to sit here and make sure you are cared for. Because I'm going to take on that responsibility. And that little waiting for him made that man's whole year. He kept looking at me and he goes, you're just an angel. No, I'm a human that's trying to do shit right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I respect my elders. And I would want someone to do it for my father or my grandfather or my husband. So I'm gonna do it for you. So we have to do them. Check ins, you said were there signs? There's always signs. And I'm not blaming the loved ones. I promise I'm not. But we do have to be accountable because I'm telling you, we see signs we are too busy to get involved or them in the same thing he'd been doing for the past four or five years. He been doing that since he was 13. But he been dark since he was 13.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And you've been doing the same thing you've been doing since he been 13. Just letting it do what it does, letting him get back on the football field. And, you know, because you play ball, a lot of these kids, especially these black kids, I'm learning from working with the NFL. So close now, from a mental health expert standpoint, the black boys don't have supportive families. They have entitled families. You not saying you had an entitled family, but you had a family that you took out of poverty. So you get it. I'm not saying they're entitled, but you went back and still gave it to them as though it was your duty. And I'm not saying it wasn't, but you did that like it was your duty. These black young men. Chadora is an anomaly. Yeah, he is an anomaly. A very blessed young man to have that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yes. Yeah.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Those boys don't have that. And I'm calling them boys because they are in their 20s, they 22. They think like boys. They make a decision. They don't have that support. And the NFL needs to do a better job, which they are. Thank you for having me be a part of your doing better job with mental health, of having the me's in there and the ones that look like me in there to help these young men. Because, see, I represent more than just Dr. Bryant to them. I'm black and I'm women. I represent they mama who they never had. I represent their mama who using them right now. I represent sometimes the mama who abused them. I represent the mother who they despise, who they are resistant toward. And when they get a different experience of me being a black woman, it changes everything in them. And the way I'm able to love on them, the way I'm able to pour into them and not judge, but hold space for them is what they need. If you would have seen their reaction, let me tell you this. The session was so vulnerable, Shannon, that the director had to stop them and say, doc, gotta go. I didn't. I would have stayed out. I love what I do. But some of the dudes was getting out their chair and walking out. Like, not walk on the door, but get up. Like, yo, I just did. One guy walked up and said, yo, this is not her talking. This is spirit talking. Like, as though it took him to church. That showed how his spirit was moved in that session. Those young men not only need it, but they deserve it at the level that they are playing in that league. And the fact that the league is starting to care more, or at least the staff that's working for the league is saying, yo, I'm working close. Especially the player development directors. Those are the ones you know, shout out to Ron and dy. Them dudes are changing lives in there, and they're working next to these players and they're seeing the hardships of these players. They're knowing when someone's grieving because their mom just died and they coming in there and all they. And all they can do is perform. Because football is performative. Yep, it's performative. And then you got family who wants you to perform, too, with your money. So that's how you end up breeding men like you, who's just performative and transactional and ain't got no space for the heart. Love you to death, but we don't want a gang of Shannon Sharks running around from that capacity. The shit you do that's good here. We do, yes. But from the place of being disconnected from yourself as a man or the heart space, we don't want that. Because then we don't get husbands, right? We don't get. I'm not saying you're not a good father, but we don't get fully engulfed, involved fathers. We don't get families. We don't get the real wealth. We get detachment. We get transactional. We get someone who can perform. And so, because all you can do is that all you want to do is be able to perform in my body, and that ain't good enough. And now what I love about our sisters, are we saying we not going to settle for that, Right? So y' all gotta come better. Which is, I believe, also what has caused y' all to have to become more vulnerable and get in contact with your emotions. Because we are now holding y' all to a higher standard and saying that although we love and go have y' all back, we need more than just performance from you. We need more than just y' all taking care of us. And Paying the bills. We need you present. We need your pain. We need your trauma. And we are strong enough and big enough black women to hold space, facilitate them, like we've been doing this entire time. And we will continue to do it. And y' all have to just allow us to do it. But I can say this. The emotions that these black men are now coming in contact with and not having a place to dump it is causing depression. Because what do you do with emotions that you don't understand and that you didn't see your father process? He didn't show you how to process them because to your point, he shoved him, right? But you feeling him. And so even if you went to him, what does he tell you? Suck that shit up or. I just kept it pushing, son. That's what you did. Work, son, work. Catch a ball. Just slide through. Stick and move, son. Don't commit. It's safe in the transactional world. It's not safe over there, son, because if you don't tell him that, he's still gonna see it. So it's learned behavior either way. And so there is a gap. And I'll wrap on that. There's a gap between the men of. Who are men's men. I love that y'.

[Matt Rogers]

All.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Y'. All. Your age range are just man's man. That's sexiness. So but it's. But y' all have no emotional attachment or intelligence. Our heart and space is like, yo, hello. So there's a gap between y', all, right, and the younger generation, right? And how you both process emotions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Y' all see them. I'm not saying you have to admit it. Y' all see them as soft sometimes. And they see y' all as old and stuck in your ways and don't know nothing and just stern. And there's that in between of who is teaching them when they don't know, because they've never done it, how to process their emotions. So it doesn't become a mental health. And we don't continue to have these beautiful young men like these two men who had a hell of a day one day, and then all of a sudden, it's dark. It's the worst day of your life. And you cannot tell me that that happened within that little time frame. It did not. There was conversations that that girlfriend heard. There was things that were said. And oftentimes loved ones don't know how to respond because you also don't want to take the wrong action and trigger it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So it's sometimes a hard position. For everybody. But the best thing you can do is to get that person help, whether it's calling the police to do a wellness check. And that is so hard because in our black community, we don't do what we ain't call no police or make a doctor's appointment and say, hey, he just needs a wellness check. You can call the school that they're at, the school psychologist, if it's school. If it's college, you can even call up to the NFL and say, yo, I think something's going on. Do a wellness check. They have psychiatrists and therapists that are on site that are supposed to be working for what they pay them to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is your first book, correct?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So that's my first book I wrote in 2014.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's called mental Detox.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Mental Detox, yeah. And it did so well that Hay House, Random House, my publisher, the biggest publishing company in the world, shout out to Hay House, they picked that book up in addition to my new book and said, you know what, we want to redo that and add a workbook component to it because it has been so life changing. And it. I self published and it sold. It just sold, I mean, literally sold off the shelves as a self publisher. So they picked it up, I added a workbook component and we added more new information to it because I'm 20, 25, I'm a new woman, I got, you know, new tools.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And yeah, you said 50 Cent. 50 Cent helped you. Lala Anthony wrote the preface. The Forward. Excuse me, she wrote the forward. What is. What can we expect for people that haven't read it? What is Mental detox?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It is. It teaches you how to detox your mind of negative thinking of your three part house. How you think, how you feel, how you behave, and those things that don't serve you, that have only been putting you in positions that breed results that you don't want. Right. So when we do things with an intention of what we want and we reach a different goal, that's called out of alignment. Manifestation doesn't take place in that space of disalignment. And so it talks about that. It talks about the lover's garden, how you show up emotionally within yourself so that you can actually connect confused with somebody else. It talks about the professional garden. So we use a garden metaphor in there, the professional garden of how you show up at work and how it impacts you. How you can optimize yourself by making sure that your thoughts and your mind and your mental health is impaired and not, you know, having impairments. And so we talk about all that and we cover, I mean, everything from how you process your emotions, emotional intelligence, you bring about what you think about. You have domination over your thoughts. All you have to do is possess it. A lot of us are letting our thoughts dominate us, and our mind is here to serve us, and we are serving it. And how do you allow your mind to serve you like it's supposed to, as a man think it. So was he. We said that earlier. And so we have to be very aware of what we're thinking. And you work backwards, right? What do I want to be? How do I want to show up? Then what thoughts do I need to think so that those. That person is curated. Another thing, the Bible says you can tell a tree by the fruit that it bears. Right? And so I talk about, well, we first have to figure out what fruit we want to bear. People are trying to figure out what tree they want to be or what seed to plant. It's like, wait a minute. Well, how do you know what seed to plant if you don't know the fruit you want to bear?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's where it comes. Exposure to environments is important. That's where choosing someone with wisdom and not experience is important. Because if I'm hearing your wisdom and it's getting me what I like, then I understand this is the fruit that I gotta try to bear. Then I can understand what kind of tree I need to become. What kind of seeds your thoughts are, your seeds do I need to plant. And so as I realize these are the thoughts I need to plant because they're seeds, I can water and become this tree, and I can become the fruits of my labor. And that's exactly what it teaches you in that book. And these are all principles that I've used and I still use on myself and my clients. And so they've been proven to work. And, yeah, the book has been going crazy. I'm really excited about that book.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Congratulations. I saw you at the Browns camp. You caught a pass from Shador.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You athletic. I said, look at that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I had a little trot and. But look, I made it. I made it all the way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You took your heels off?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Took my heels off, yeah. Shadora was getting fussy. He was like, go, run. I was like, hold on. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get in position. He said, girl, just run. I said, look, I told him, I said, gonna throw me one of them Colorado passes. But that was before he had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before he started last year, the good.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Game with the Raiders when he threw that long 55 yard pass, I said, shador, throw me one of them good Colorado passes. He's like, you crazy, Doc. I said, throw me one of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, go get a book. New book is out. Mental detox Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Doc, yes. Thank you so much.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you for having me. All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price, wanna.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Slice, got to roll a dice that's.

[Matt Rogers]

Why all my life I've been grinding.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All my life all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price wanna slice not the bone of dice to swap all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Matt Rogers]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

The holidays are overwhelming, but I'm tackling.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

There the last one.

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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[Matt Rogers]

Get ready for your next TV obsession. All's Fair Starring Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Niecy Nash Betts, Teyana Taylor. With Sarah Paulson and Glenn Close. A team of fierce female divorce attorneys.

[Matt Rogers]

Leave a male dominated firm to start their own. Filled with scandalous secrets and shifting allegiances, both in the courtroom and within their own ranks, these ladies know that lawyers.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Are a girl's best friend.

[Matt Rogers]

Don't miss the two part season finale of All's Fair on December 9th on.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

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