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Shannon Sharpe
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Gilly
On Disney Private Island.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how we get down, cuz Disney Cruise Line is where we came to play. Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Man, you had a lot. You have a lot of disagreement with people, man. Oh, why you have a disagreement with everybody.
Gilly
Who. Who? I had a disagreement.
Shannon Sharpe
Had a little temporary disagreement with J. Hov. You had a little disagree with Bird. You had to disagree with Wayne. You had to disagree with Ross. You got different. I mean, damn Meek.
Gilly
No, I never had a disagreement with meek. That's always been.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I said Meech.
Gilly
Oh, what Meech?
Shannon Sharpe
Big Meech.
Gilly
I ain't had no disagreement with Big Meech.
Shannon Sharpe
No, not big. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. But you did have with Ross.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Why Ross?
Gilly
Ross cool.
Shannon Sharpe
I like Ross.
Gilly
Okay, okay, let me. Can I explain what happened?
Shannon Sharpe
You can.
Gilly
Okay, I'm at Jackson State.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
I'm in the locker room. Barlow's in there talking to prom. Barlow running the locker room. He say, yo, Wayne here man. Go holla at that cuz we need to get that on the podcast. I say, where he at? He in there with Prom. I walk up, I see Wayne. He in here talking to prom. What's up? Wayne go. I walk out. Standing right out here, wait for him to come out to holler. He in there talking to prom. I ain't the process. I called Jermaine over. Mack Main, come here. Yo, what's up, man? Trying to get him on Pocket. Yeah. You knew you and Wayne had itch, man. That shit, the past, man. Nobody worrying about that shit, man. But all right, I got. I mean, I gotta holla at him and see. Okay, cool. He say, where Wayne at? They say, wayne left Mack, Maine. Say, where he go? They looking at McMahon like, nigga, we don't know where he went. He left Mack, Maine. Say, okay, man, I'm a holler at y'all. So now I'm doing an interview with tmz. They asked me about Wayne. I said, I don't really talk about that shit no more. They say, well, have you ever seen him? I say, damn, that's crazy. Y'all asked me that, right? I just seen him last week at Jackson State.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
He said, how that went? I said. I shook his hand. And then, you know, Wayne got out of there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he dipped.
Gilly
I never said I pressed the nothing. I actually said, I'm trying to get the. On the podcast.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
What happened was Mack Main posted a video of me saying Wayne dipped. Posted a video of me and Wayne shaking hands. And then me and me turning around and walking out like I was frauding or something. And I'm like, Mac, you know what happened? You was there. You was the one that said he left. So I didn't even respond to that shit. I'm just like, what's the purpose? I never said I was pressing a nigga. I said I was trying to get an interview from the nigga. Right? And Ross was in the comments. These is fake.
Shannon Sharpe
Talking about you and Wallow was fake.
Gilly
Yes. That's how that started.
Shannon Sharpe
But you in raw school now.
Gilly
I mean, I seen Ross at the concert. At me concert. He didn't have nothing to say. And then I seen his homie. And his homie introduced himself and said he was a real.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
Gilly
And I said, if you a real. What the. Am I a superhero?
Shannon Sharpe
And that was it.
Gilly
That was it. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I think y'all can get together.
Gilly
And talent ain't no beef. I don't got no beef with nobody. I don't have no beef with nobody. I stay in my world, Shannon. Yeah, I do. Me, I don't with nobody. I don't bother nobody. There's plenty of guys out here on the Internet, disrespecting, talking crazy. I can't even take these guys for real, Shannon. I can't take these because who talk about that? They don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
See, see, that's why I like you.
Gilly
I can't take no for real. Just talking. If I never met you, how could I have something negative to say about you, man? I don't know you, man, so why do I care, right? There's a bunch of guys out here that's, you know, clout chasing and do shit for views, and I pay them no mind, man. God ain't gonna bless you trying to come up off the number back of another man. You ain't gonna get no blessings like.
Shannon Sharpe
That million dollar worth of game you say you started like, hey, telling the young homie that I'm, hey, I got a million dollars worth of game. Just listen.
Gilly
God. It's attention, motivation, and education.
Shannon Sharpe
The cuz come home.
Gilly
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
He's been, you know, a reading up, understanding, marketing, all this other stuff of how to run a business. You got to ask, got to, hey, let's do a. He said, let's do a pod.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How did it come together? Where you like, you know what, cuz? Let's do this. Shoot for the stars.
Gilly
Well, a million dollars worth of game was already so big. Just the brand, me, me, me, giving out the game that people already was asking me, Kelly, you need a podcast. You need a YouTube channel. You need this. I didn't know what a podcast was. And then just to be honest, when I went and looked at a podcast, not saying no names, I was like, who the would watch this? This is the driest shit. This is Canada Dry. I didn't understand.
Shannon Sharpe
I said the same thing where they got. I like, I ain't know what a podcast was. I'm like, I mean, what? I mean, I'm on tv, right? Why do I want to do extra in my off time, do something that's similar to tv.
Gilly
And then Wallow sent me an article that said Spotify allocates 421 million to podcasts in the first quarter. And I said, the first quarter is January to April. 400N. What? Break that microphone out right fucking now. You hear in the first podcast we did, I think went to number two in the world behind Joe Rogan. Yeah. And it was on no looking back. No looking back. Wow.
Shannon Sharpe
What's been some of your craziest moments on your pod?
Gilly
Uh, the first craziest moment was me and Wallo fighting. That was early on, that was wild. Had to give him some tenant windows and sh. Tennis shit up.
Shannon Sharpe
Who's the older?
Gilly
Me. I'm older.
Shannon Sharpe
You older?
Gilly
Yeah. I used to botch that nigga in the tub, man. Used to shit in the tub all the time, man. Bowels was bad.
Shannon Sharpe
He loose. He loose.
Gilly
Loose, man. Loose as a kid. But Lil Durk was one, you know, Going to Chicago to the gutter, Kodak Black. Going to the projects. Being in the projects. 2:00 in the morning. Young Thug, you know what I mean? Because to have the conversation that we had with Young Thug and not even know that he was about to go through any of that shit he went through, right? That was like, you know what I mean? And then Dababy. Dababy. Because Dababy, you know, in the society we live in, he said something that, quote, unquote, he wasn't supposed to say, and the world turned they back on him. Wow. And he called us and said, would y'all interview me? And we said, why wouldn't we interview you? We not like the rest of the world. We don't give a. We understand that people make mistakes. We human, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
I made a bunch of mistakes in my life, man. And God forgave me. I wouldn't be in this position I'm in. I'd probably be in jail. So we not judging you. And the difference between us, we built our podcast around the youth, the owners of tomorrow. And we don't talk at you, we talk to you. It's a difference. So we said, come on. We going to embrace you during the hardest times of your life. Tory Lanez, Same thing. We going to embrace you and everybody else. They stay as far away from you. We not going to treat you like that because we understand that people make mistakes. Wallow made a mistake. Cost him 20 years of his life. But now he's a cultural advisor at YouTube.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Gilly
He was the CEO at Reform. He got one of the fastest growing clothing lines in the world. So we understand that second chances is prevalent, that a lot of people, that's all they ever need is a second chance. That's all he ever needed was a second chance to show he was great.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
So we don't judge. And we understand that people make mistakes. And we the platform that say you made a mistake, but we gonna give you an outlet to say, I up. Blay us up, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
I up. But don't judge me by a mistake that I made. Because everybody, if you was judged by every mistake you made, come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we not here.
Gilly
You made a mistake when you was on that camera. Grunt.
Shannon Sharpe
There you go. See, I was there again.
Gilly
See, I said. I said, damn, Shannon. Look like he in the best shape of his life, but he sound like he out of shape is in there grunting like a.
Shannon Sharpe
There you go, Gibbsy. Have you had any surprise?
Gilly
See how good he is? Of a. Of a. What you want me to do, Gilbert? He got right off of that. So when you.
Shannon Sharpe
Gill, it's over. I mean, that was. That was. You know, I done moved past that. My PR had a crisis team. We handled that.
Gilly
At least you owned up to it. Yeah. I mean, wasn't nobody believing you. You accidentally went on live. You gotta take six steps.
Shannon Sharpe
But here.
Gilly
The.
Shannon Sharpe
But, hey, all I'm trying to say is that. Think about it. I've never been on live before, so. You mean the very first time that I'm on live, that's what I'm gonna put out there? All right. The very first time.
Gilly
I ain't gonna lie to you. So I used to put a little work in, though. I ain't gonna lie.
Shannon Sharpe
Are you surprised because you had a former NFL player on the podcast and he revealed that his girlfriend had cheated on him with me. Did you know that prior to him coming on?
Gilly
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Uh, had you known that, would you have brought him home?
Gilly
Yes. Because at the end of the day, let's be for real, bro. Probably 95% of the men in the world been cheated on before. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
They just don't know it.
Gilly
They just don't know it. And if they do know it, a lot of them, they forgive the woman anyway. Right? So, you know me, I thought it was. I thought it was real that he shared that story. Like, you know what I mean? Cause, like, listen, man, they get out on the habits to the best of us. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And plus, look, most guys like pretty much the same type of woman. If you go back and look at an app, you look at athletes, football, baseball, basketball, whatever the sport is, and look at the type of woman. That's why, man, why do you guys like the same woman? Why they gotta. Do you like what you like? And they're in that circle, right? That type of woman, young woman, right. Whatever the case may be, they're around that, the athletes are around that. I mean, when you in whole food, you go to get stuff that, you know, don't have non gmo, don't have pesticide. It is what it is, Kelly. But unless you in that world, people outside of that world don't understand you.
Gilly
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And so that's what I tell them, man. Shaw, why they say, bro, when you go somewhere, those are the women that you see, right?
Gilly
And a lot of people don't understand, like, they be like, oh, such and such. She messed with him, him and him and him. That's the only people that's at all events that she has. That's the only world she in. She don't be around too many regular, right? So. But they don't understand. A lot of celebrities are sheltered, right? And the only time you get to get out and about is when you're around other celebrities.
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
Gilly
So who el you gonna mess with those celebrities?
Shannon Sharpe
You've had some of the. I mean, million dollars worth of game. You've had some of the biggest rappers, some of the biggest entertainers on your platform. How do you go about to secure your guest? How do you get them?
Gilly
Oh, we call them. We reach out personally. You know what I mean? Yo, bro, I would like to get you on the show, bro. You wanna come bust it up, chop some game up. You know, we have some that respond, we have some that don't respond. And, you know, we don't take it personally.
Shannon Sharpe
Would you DM him?
Gilly
DM him fast. DM Drake, we need you on the show. DM, LeBron need you on the show. Fortunately, Drake and LeBron both responded back. So, you know, hopefully we'll get them soon. But I dm, I don't. I'm not operating off no ego.
Shannon Sharpe
Lock your ass. You ain't DM me.
Gilly
No, we gonna. We got you. Nope, I did DM me.
Shannon Sharpe
How you gonna do. How you gonna DM Drake and LeBron before me?
Gilly
I DM'd you. You just ain't see that motherfucker. You got all them tenders in there. Look, they heard y'all in the room. Senders and energy, and they're grunting. He said, we want a little grizzly bear.
Shannon Sharpe
You recently sat down with Kodak Black about his drug use. How difficult is it to have a conversation like that with someone and you see the potential, so much ability, and you're kind of like throwing it all away.
Gilly
We just sat down with him, you know what I mean? And it wasn't necessarily about drug use or drug abuse. It was just necessarily about reminding them. Because you gotta understand, these young men, I wanna say kids, they kids to me. Cause they young enough to be my kids. But these young men who are millionaires, they living in the moment, right? They in the moment. They don't always understand how important they are. So it Just be us to remind them that, yo, you know, you that right? You know what you mean out here, right? Okay, you see what they did to Dirk, right? You see what they did to young Thug, right? No, you ain't exempt. So come on, Neff, we not trying to throw this shit away, right? We not trying to God, he anointed you to be one of the special ones. Out of all the that you grew up with, how many people was in your position? So come on, Neff, we gonna take advantage of this. We not gonna take none of this shit for granted. And that's our job to let him know that you special, bro. Because everybody around you more than likely is a yes man. Yeah, I'm gonna let you know you special, Neff. But don't this up, Neff. Cause you already been to jail. You know what this shit about, right? I'm not here to stroke your ego, man. I'm here to let you know that Neff you special. And if you this up, you know who the idiot is? You, Neff. And they accepted to that shit because like I said, we ain't talking at em, we talking to them.
Shannon Sharpe
Kodak revealed that he did as many 100 pills a day. Why do you think it's so hard for guys to come into this sum of money? This sum of. I mean, this fame, this praise, this adulation, and then resort, maybe they had these issues and they got clean. They were able to do enough to get in this position to release a record or do something. Why do you think it's so hard for them to like stay on the straight narrow?
Gilly
You gotta understand, right? We taking kids straight out the projects, right? Straight out the gutter, straight out the streets. And then bam. He got a shitload of money. You talk about a kid that wants from having zero responsibilities. Zero to bam. Now you got 10 responsibilities. Feel what I'm saying? You don't it. Sometimes it happens so quick that you don't always even know how to deal with that shit. You just like, I just went from nobody asking me for nothing to now every time anybody jam, they asking me for something now you start to feel like playing me. Like, am I being too nice? Am I not being generous enough? Am I. You know, it's just a bunch of shit. You got family members, that's that. They feel entitled. They feel like you owe them shit. They feel like you. Like you wasn't even around during my whole journey of coming up. But now I owe you. So the difficulties of coming from the ghetto. And like I like to say, This a lot of times, right? A lot of times. You know, what would be the difference between white parents and black parents?
Shannon Sharpe
What's that?
Gilly
White parents, they see their kid winning, and a lot of times, they already been successful in life. They got good credit. They got they house. They got. They.
Shannon Sharpe
They got their nice car. So they're not expecting anything.
Gilly
They not expecting anything. You try to buy them a nice car, they like, billy, I got a Bronco. You worry about you. Billy don't do it right. You. You a black family. Everybody made it. Mm. Now you gotta buy your sister a car, your mama a house, your mama a car, your two brothers a car for you, even do anything for yourself.
Shannon Sharpe
For yourself.
Gilly
You already a million dollars in the hole.
Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
Gilly
Now you gotta help them maintain the shit that you bought them that they can't ford.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Gilly
So now you bought your sister the Benz. Now she need breaks the 3,000. She can't afford the brakes, so now she done rolled the rotors off them. Now it's 8,000.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't lying. You ain't lying. So you got to get them something they can upkeep.
Gilly
So now everything is coming back to you. You like, damn. Wait, hold on. I did this. I put y'all in this. I did y'all this. I did y'all. This shit's still coming back to me, right? Then it's cool when the money's pouring.
Shannon Sharpe
In, what happens when it stops?
Gilly
Cause, man, I just got 150 tonight, I'm getting 150. Tomorrow, I'm getting. Don't worry about Senate. But when that shit slow up, now it's an issue.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
It's like, I've been doing this shit for three years, four years. Y'all ain't established nothing yet. Sounds like we never knew we had to establish nothing. You had everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
Gilly
So a lot of these kids is going through, and then when you got them ghetto moms. Oh, Lord.
Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned you had thug on before either trial or any of this transpired, Right. Why do you think it's so hard to separate rap from street life at times?
Gilly
I mean, the raps come from the rap come from the streets, but the.
Shannon Sharpe
Objective is to get out, not to get out and go back.
Gilly
But when we first rapping, all we rapping about is what we know. You know what I mean? Yes. So. And then a lot of times, it don't even be the rapper. A lot of times it be the. That's around the rappers. Okay. Because at the end of the day, if I don't rap Shannon. Right. How else am I gonna prove that I'm down for you Other than when we got some beef and it's time to do something to it. I can't show my worth other than that I'm just a hangaround. I'm dying for you to go through some shit so I could bust heads open so I could say, you see how I ride for you. Because I don't bring any value to the table other than that. Other than that, I'm just hanging around in the studio.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Gilly
Right. So I'm dying for something that. For somebody to with you. Cause I'm dying to show you not only how I ride for you. That's the only way they can show you. A lot of times you don't even want a to ride. He done did some dumb and then y shot at them. You like what in the corner got? It's in my name.
Shannon Sharpe
You had a viral interview, you little dirt. Unfortunately, he's in jail right now. But Wallow tearing up, telling little dirt bro don't retaliate.
Gilly
He. And that was scared. That was scared for our life. Cause they got a bunch of guns in here. Oh, my God. Y'all ain't gotta do this. Stop bitching. Stop bitching. Straighten up. Tighten up in here. They ain't doing nothing to us.
Shannon Sharpe
But I mean, he's like. I mean, because Wallow forgave the man that took his brother's life.
Gilly
My cousin Steve.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. And he said that his wallow is very close to his grandmother, called a nanny.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And his brother Steve, his brother that got shot, he died in the arm.
Gilly
Nanny arms. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
In the doorway.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And he forgave him. He said I had to let this pain. I had to let this burden go.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
He said I had to.
Gilly
Yes, he had to. Because he got. Steve got kids out here, and Steve got responsibilities out here. So if you come home on some crash dummy shit and you die and go to jail, how does that benefit anything that Steve had? Right. You know what I mean? He already lost his life to the streets. So for it to be a continuing cycle, it just don't make no sense. And I'm glad that, because it would have been easy for him to come home and do what everybody expected him to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
But he came home and he did what nobody expected him to do. And that's why he's being great right now.
Shannon Sharpe
You Muslim?
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
How long?
Gilly
My whole life, really. My name's Farad Nassir. That's my real government name.
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I would have never Guessed that. How the hell do you get the name Gilly?
Gilly
My mom name is Gilda and my mom is one of the craziest that you would ever meet. So growing up, I was always Lil Gilly, okay? Like, yo, this little Gilly, like, be excited. Like, I never knew why.
Shannon Sharpe
This little Gilly.
Gilly
Hey, Lil Gilly Mangle, $20. The Do My mom do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody's always happy to see me.
Gilly
But my mom was always well known and well respected. So I always was Lil Gil. So by the time I got older, that just was.
Shannon Sharpe
It stuck.
Gilly
That's Lil Gil.
Shannon Sharpe
How many people know your government name besides your very, very close?
Gilly
Nobody. Everybody called me Gilly, man. You know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
Cause when you go to advertise, the sponsors, they call you Gilly.
Gilly
They call me Gilly.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely, Mr. Gilly.
Gilly
Even if they knew my real name. Gonna it up for Nazer. Damn. You thought that was a real name for Nazer?
Shannon Sharpe
You had King Von on your pod before he tragically lost his life. Where were you when you got the news and what were you thinking?
Gilly
Like, damn, it was like a week later, I think, or maybe a few days later, maybe. And the only thing that was stuck in my head was a line that he said on the podcast. He said, gilly, shit, don't even be that deep, Gilly. But us young guys don't know how to talk to each other. And that just stuck with me because it was like, only if young guys took the chance to talk to each other, they would realize that, bro, I really don't even want to be beefing with you. I don't want to be beefing with you either. I like your music. I like your music. But they never even get a chance to talk to each other.
Shannon Sharpe
Is it something you got ego where I gotta prove something?
Gilly
Well, you know, this generation that's out now is totally different from my generation. My generation in the culture, we looked up to the hustlers. We looked up to somebody that was getting money, somebody that was doing better than you. Because it just appeared that, damn, that's what I want to be. This generation, they made the shooter popular. The shooter in our generation was always the lowest form of a street. It was the who. Life didn't matter because he's a crash dummy. He's going to die out here anyway, right? So. But this generation made the shooter popular to whereas, though he don't have no money, he has nothing going on for himself. But he shoots, right? And he's popular. And his gun actually costs more than his bankroll sky this kid got a $700 gun on him, but he got $100 to his name. So you know, this generation really up where they made the shooter the popular guy and it just doesn't make no sense.
Shannon Sharpe
Where are you on the snitching culture?
Gilly
I mean, I just believe if you jump in those streets and that's what you choose to do, I just believe you should stand on that.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
You know what I mean? I believe, I've never believed that you should jump in the streets and then something go wrong and you should decide to tell on somebody right now. If you was, if you were that lady right there, I don't believe that she's ever been in the streets.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Gilly
If she saw a crime go down, she should absolutely tell what the she seen go down.
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Gilly
See DKNG co audio. She's a citizen. But if you're in the streets and you grew up in a certain culture and then you get caught, you get jammed up. You get jammed up and you like, wait, I'mma tell on the person that had more drugs than me because I got caught. I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't.
Gilly
Me personally, I don't agree with that because I just. I just think that you chose to be in that world, and when you choose something, you should understand the consequences of what you've chosen. And I would never tell on anybody. When I chose to be in a certain world that I chose to be in, that's just me.
Shannon Sharpe
You said something very interesting. You said a lot of times these guys have friends around them and they've been with these guys their entire life. And a lot of these guys are what we call yes men. And they tell you what you want to tell you what you want to. What you want to hear and not what you need to know.
Gilly
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
And how difficult is it? Because I'm pretty sure you pretty much got the same circle of friends. People that knew Gille from the jump, they still cool with Gilly because when Gilly didn't have anything, they was there. Gilly got something. Now they're still there. They haven't switched up on you. You haven't switched up on them. How difficult is it for people that come from this and us come from what we come from to distance ourself from that situation?
Gilly
It'd be very hard. But that sometimes be the hardest for people because, you know, you feel like I came up and, you know, not necessarily they brought any value to me, but they just was around me. But you got to understand also that if value don't bring value to value, then it devalue. Then what Is devaluates everything. So. And you gotta understand, if I'm an artist and I go on the road and I got 15 hangaround, that's 15 people I gotta feed and put up and put up. And when I go to the store now, when I go buy a jacket and they picking up the jacket now, I end up buying 15 jackets, and I. And they not really bringing no value to what I got going on. And that's how you go broke.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
So if you understand life, but you.
Shannon Sharpe
Notice that you say that's how you go broke. Now, when we make the money, we made money, we go broke, man, you went broke, you went broke.
Gilly
You feel what I'm saying? So if you smart, you gotta understand that I can't do everything for everybody, and I gotta put myself first. And what's my responsibilities first in life? Because if I go broke, who's taking care of my responsibilities? Nobody.
Shannon Sharpe
Nobody. Gillen, why do you think rappers are so successful at podcasts? You got Joe, Nor, Cam and Mace. And it seems like a lot of these guys are transitioning out of music. Right. Why do you think rappers have been able to do so well yourself? Like I said, Joe, Joe B Noor, Cam and Maven, why have they been so successful?
Gilly
I mean, rapping is just a form of talking expression. And if you have personality and you're able to express yourself and you're intelligent enough to have to hold a conversation and intelligent enough to understand that it also has to be some humor in there. It has to be some, you know, then you can make it happen. You know, Joe is. He has his own type of drive, but, you know, sense of humor that, you know, people like, you know, Cam, he has his sense of humor, Mace. And we have our sense of humor. So. And we speak. And we also got years in the game, so we got knowledge on it, so we able to speak on things and tell stories and things that we've been through that, you know, maybe other people are not able to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Right? Cam and Mace, they thank you for bringing him. You and Wallow, for bringing Cam and Mace back together again.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
What does that mean? How did that make you feel? Because I guess they, at one point in time, they were cool, and then they kind of, like, went their separate ways, and they're back together, got a top podcast, doing extremely well.
Gilly
Well, you know, for me, it makes me feel extremely proud. Cause I'm like, y'all brothers? You two brothers was friends as kids. Mm. Like, and for me, it's just always like this. If we Was friends as kids when we didn't have nothing. How are we gonna be, how we fall out? We got everything, right? And then, honestly, it's all about talking like King Von said. And all we did was bring Mace on the show. And he expressed like, Kelly, I used to wear Cameron's sneaks. Like, I was up like Cam'ron. I used to wear cam'ron's clothes. And that's what hurt me the most, is that me and my brother is not as close as we used to be. And that's all it took. Cam watched the interview, and now Cam comes on and expressed that I really miss Mace as well.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
And then next thing you know, they call each other, and then next thing you know, they.
Shannon Sharpe
They got a party getting $30 million. Right? Okay, now you got Cam, Mase, and you got Jim Jones.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And I think it was Jim that said that Mace said that. Hey, I taught, right? Jim said he taught him how to rap, Right? What's the collision now?
Gilly
I mean, you know, at the end of the day, I see Jim and I see Cam going through it, and, you know, Rallo wrote him a letter on the gram and, you know, pretty much ask him, you know, whatever y'all going through. Cause it ain't really worth it.
Shannon Sharpe
No, it's not that.
Gilly
We all winning. Jim's winning. He's doing his thing. He's still doing his thing in music. Cam is winning. He's doing his thing with the podcast. He's winning the life. So, you know, it's not that serious.
Shannon Sharpe
That photo on IG on Internet.
Gilly
You know that shit ain't real. I already know what you talking. I know.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just real. I be y'all hanging a lot.
Gilly
Ain't hugging me like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. But how they. Of all the people, how they put you in.
Gilly
I Photoshop that shit. Wallow.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you like that?
Gilly
Get me like that, man? Poor my man. I with or. I've been to his house. He's a great artist, made great music, and I really with him. I don't have nothing bad to say about art. I don't know what you did. I don't. You know, that has nothing to do with me. But every time we was in each other's presence, he was a good dude, right?
Shannon Sharpe
But I look and I understand that he. What he. What he accused of doing, what he got convicted of, But I believe you can separate the two. Yeah, the man made incredible music.
Gilly
Yes, he did.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, the person might. You might not like what the person did, right? But that doesn't take away from the music that he produced.
Gilly
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Or that he made.
Gilly
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Am I wrong for saying no?
Gilly
No, you're not wrong. Cause when I listen to I believe I can fly.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Gilly
I just don't think about him pissing on nobody. I'm like. I just like. I'm like, Fiesta, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
What's the brokest you've ever been?
Gilly
Broke, broke, broken and broke. Broke, broke, broke, broke.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why you had to get the scrappy run up on people.
Gilly
I was broken and broke.
Shannon Sharpe
When you laying up in your big crib now, you sit back and, you know, you look. Look at the finance. You're like, damn, did you ever thought it'd be this good?
Gilly
No.
Shannon Sharpe
In your wildest imagination, when you know what it.
Gilly
I thought I would have money, I ain't gonna lie about it.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a different type of money. Yeah, this is Gilly.
Gilly
This is a different type of money. I never thought that I would make this type of money off of being myself.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
I never in a million years imagined some shit like that. Like, bro, you sit here and you be you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
You don't have to do anything extra but be. Be and to make this type of money. Yeah, that's believable. So I never thought that it would be this way. I can't say that I always thought that I would end up where I needed to be.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
But I never thought it would just be me being myself.
Shannon Sharpe
I see. Every time I turn around, I see Wallow pull up in something new. He like, hey, as a matter of fact, while you talking, I might go get something new tomorrow.
Gilly
He ain't lying either. I mean, like, I'll be low key. Like. Like, bro, what are you doing?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you. You got a side hustle. I know how much we make it, but damn, you got a side hustle.
Gilly
I mean, like, like, what, you trying to go broke? What the.
Shannon Sharpe
Is it? What. I mean, what is the best part and what I tell people for me, when people like, Shannon, what's the best part about having money? I said, money gives. Is the ability to do things for my family that if I didn't have it, I wouldn't be able to do it, because that's the most important thing to me. Cause I don't really buy. I mean, I buy some nice.
Gilly
But look at me, man. I don't look like I buy shit, because I don't. Every day you see me on Instagram, every day you see me on social media, I got a sweatsuit on. Like, but my Daughter got a truck that she really wanted.
Shannon Sharpe
G Wagon.
Gilly
No, she wanted a Rubicon.
Shannon Sharpe
A Jeep?
Gilly
Yes, yes. Jeep Wrangler. My other daughter got a BMW.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. You know they have G Wagons in Jersey.
Gilly
Yeah. My other daughter, she won a BMW truck. She got that. My grandkids, they don't have to ask for nothing. You know, I lost a son out here who has a son. So me being able to just be there for my grandson and, you know, make sure that he's not missing nothing, you know? You know, that's what's important to me, man. I don't really give a. About nothing else in life.
Shannon Sharpe
What's your best. What's the. What's the best purchase that you made?
Gilly
My wife's wedding ring.
Shannon Sharpe
You got a new one? Cause I know at the time that you got married, that thing about to call, like, $40.
Gilly
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife's wedding ring, you gotta be with her. Flawless shit.
Shannon Sharpe
Flawless default.
Gilly
Fly that from Africa. What? I wasn't playing no games. You hear me? But she deserves it, though.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
You know, and when we did, you know, tattoos, so it would always be forever, but I'm like, no, this really gonna crush her heart to a different level. When she saw that come out the box.
Shannon Sharpe
She had to put a welder's mask on.
Gilly
You know, when that lip starts shaking.
Shannon Sharpe
What's your worst purchase? You better. You have you purchased anything that you like? Hey, why the. Did I buy this?
Gilly
Yes. All my Rolexes and cars.
Shannon Sharpe
You a car guy in. In Philly?
Gilly
Old school. Yes. Oh, okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
You like old school?
Gilly
I got old school. Bunch of old school cars. But other than that, I really don't buy anything. You know what I mean? And I love my cars, right? So I wouldn't really even say that was a bad purchase.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
I just. I just.
Shannon Sharpe
You and Wallow gave each other a gift.
Gilly
Yeah, well, every year I throw a big party for him that costs a shitload of money.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't. I ain't got invited.
Gilly
See, you invited this year, you know what I mean? For sure. I ain't had no number on you, though, you know? And I know you're working. You got 11 shoes and shit. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I turn it over to CJ. CJ can halley for a while. For a day.
Gilly
I know you're working the busiest man in show business, you hear me? But I throw him a big party every year because one time he forgot about his birthday. He was in jail. He didn't even know it was his birthday, so. And he's never Been celebrated. So every year I celebrated where I make open bar, everything's free, and people just had the time of their life.
Shannon Sharpe
What's your best investment?
Gilly
My best investment was million dollars worth of game buying all of the 17 cameras we got and the studio house. And that was my best investment.
Shannon Sharpe
Now you're in the boxing game.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, actually, you got your hat in a lot of things. Yes, but. So now being a promoter, is that what you want to do?
Gilly
I mean, I just like providing opportunity for people. You know, we did the first boxing match, then we had Meatball on there. She went viral. Then Zeus network picked her right up. And then now she's on her second season, going into Zeus network. So we just like to give people opportunities and try to make some stars out of it.
Shannon Sharpe
You had a boxing thing, and I think shots were allegedly fired and you end up having to kick people out.
Gilly
No, what happened was the Delaware police was on some bullshit. Okay, I'm in the middle of a live stream, right? Oh, yeah. Hits him with a body shot. Oh, I get a tap on the shoulder. Here's the chief of police, and it's my assistant. I mean, yeah, my assistant, dez. And she's like, they're shutting it down. It's over. It's like, not even halfway through the. Through the. I'm like, what? I take the headphones off, shut it down. They're shooting at the police outside. I said, what now? You gotta understand, we don't even bring that type of crowd, right? So now I'm on the side of the police now, right? Some came to my event and shot at the police. I'm losing my mind. I get up, I walk to the front. I'm talking to the. Nothing we can do. It's over. I said, listen, I have a live stream going on right now that thousands on top of thousands of people paid for. You mean to tell me it's nothing we can do? He say, if I let the live stream continue, you gotta kick all the people out of the stands. I said, but the people in the stands didn't do anything. This was the people outside. If, like I said, if you wanted this live stream that you got going to continue, the people in the stands gotta leave. So I go in the ring, I'm mad because I'm under an impression that somebody shot at the police outside. And as black people, that's on all of us, right? That we would come to an event. We gave out four and a half million dollars in the city of Philadelphia to minority businesses and y'all would come to my event and shoot at the cops. So now I'm on one. Everybody get the out of here. After I kicked everybody out and we sitting there waiting to start the live stream, they said, no, Gilly, they made a mistake. They wasn't shooting at the police. They were shouting at the police. I said, what? Because this makes no sense.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
Why would you come at me when I'm in the middle of a live stream and tell me it's over? This was when I looked up, they said, it's over, it's done. It's done. We shuttle the building down this the last round because somebody was shouting at the police outside. That don't make sense. Shit. Okay, that don't make sense. Y'all said them people was shooting at the police, Right? So now I got a problem with the Delaware Police Department, and I'm losing my mind on the Delaware Police Department because I paid you guys $14,000 for four hours worth of work. And y'all tried to pull a fast one saying somebody was outside shooting when they wasn't. So that was the issue I had with the police department in Delaware. You stand on that. They're the worst police department in the United States of America. I stand on that shit.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, since you in the fight game, it's been reported that Canelo and Terence Crawford. It goes back and forth. It's Canelo and Jake Paul. It's Canelo and Bud. Yes, it's Bud. And so if this fight's. Let's just say for the sake of argument, the fight is gonna happen. Canelo and Bud. Who you like in this fight?
Gilly
Canelo.
Shannon Sharpe
Why? Because Bud had to move up three classes.
Gilly
Yes. And in the history of boxing, I've never seen anybody move up two classes and be successful.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, Roy did.
Gilly
I mean, but not in one jump, not in one leap, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
It was here. Here. Light heavyweight fight a few fights. Okay, heavyweight. We talking about he just fought 147 one fight ago.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
And then you gonna fight at 168?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Did he fight his last fight at 54?
Gilly
Yes. Just one fight, though. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And so now he'd go from 54 to 60 to 68.
Gilly
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
And then he don't have a rehydration clause, so.
Gilly
So canelo might be 180, 90. 185. 190. 190.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. He thinks he can outbox Canelo.
Gilly
I, I, I think, I think he can outbox Canelo, too. Until he get hit.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
You know what I mean? That's the thing. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta. You gonna go whole fight without getting hit. And you fighting Canelo Alvarez?
Shannon Sharpe
No. You and Mike Tyson are friends. How did you meet Mike?
Gilly
I met Mike just out and about a few times. And we have somebody that champ Shadim, that we both know, that is like, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Since you are a boxing aficionado, give me your four. Great. Your four goat boxers. Any division, any era.
Gilly
Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao is an eight division World Series.
Shannon Sharpe
Eight division. What, from one of those? From. He went from one. From one what? From 106, 112, all the way up to 154.
Gilly
Right. So that's my goats.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that. Give me your top four boxes currently.
Gilly
Bud.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
Canelo, in your way.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I like him.
Gilly
And.
Shannon Sharpe
Usyk.
Gilly
You could put Usyk in there, or you could put my nephew in there, who's a four division weight champion, four time champion, two division weight champion. That means you're a Hall of Famer. Cool boy. Steph. Stephen Fulton, but yeah, you could throw him in there too. Okay. Just beat my guy.
Shannon Sharpe
How did you become such a boxing fan?
Gilly
Well, is it Philly? Is it boxing? Yeah, Philly a boxing city, man. You grow up in Philly, you gotta learn how to rumble, man. You don't get your ass whipped.
Shannon Sharpe
That's Kronk is in Philly, isn't it?
Gilly
Yes. No, no, Kronk ain't in Philly.
Shannon Sharpe
It's in Detroit.
Gilly
Yeah, that's Detroit. I believe Shuler's is in Philly. Where did Frazier find out of Joe Frazier, Jim. Okay, yeah, he throwed out of Joe Frazier's.
Shannon Sharpe
So you gotta be able to bang if you gonna be.
Gilly
You gonna be Philly, you gotta be able to rumble, baby.
Shannon Sharpe
As a rapper. Drake, Kendrick. If Drake would've just let it, just let it go like, hey, bro, I'm done with that. Boom, let it go. Would we have gotten to where we got with this beef, with this back and forth?
Gilly
Well, at the end of the day, all the whole industry came at Drake at one time.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Why Drake put so many of em on?
Gilly
Let me just tell you something. What? Anytime. Let's just be for real. All the motherfuckers got money. Yes. Is what we talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
What is it ever. The beefing over some bitches, right? Had to be about some bitches, you know, Drake. Come on, man. Drake slaying them and spraying them and putting all on the plane, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Gilly
What else we got to beef about other than some hoes, man.
Shannon Sharpe
But you ain't gotta come at me that hard. Just give me a little body blow, man.
Gilly
You gotta understand, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you gotta understand.
Gilly
Most beefs in America was started about a woman.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
That's just.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, but this is all time. I mean, you go back and look at. I hit em up with Tupac. No Vaseline. I mean, there have been some great. This one up there, Nigeli. Yeah. They gonna be talking about this for a minute.
Gilly
But what I'm saying is, bro, it's only a rap battle. That's all it is. Jay Z lost the knives.
Shannon Sharpe
That man won five Grammys off that.
Gilly
But he wanted. You think he a bigger artist than Drake?
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Gilly
So why does it matter? You lost a rap battle. That's like LeBron James losing the NBA Finals. You be cool. Next year, you be back even with him. Even if you look at the streams now. Yes, Right. Even when he win five Grammys, his streams, they still don't match Drake's streams.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Drake just did a billion. A billion. He was the quickest to do a billion streams on this new thing.
Gilly
So at the end of the day, Kendrick's great, Drake's great. This is a rap battle, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Ego got love and bruised, though, man.
Gilly
Dang.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't gotta do it like that.
Gilly
Let me just tell you something. That's all in Drake's mind then, okay? You can't bruise my ego. I got my own plane, man. I'm about to hop on my plane, man. My ego. I'll buy a new one. Do me a favor. Take 30 million, go get me ego. What the Are we talking about ego? Imagine if Jay Z ego was destroyed, right? He would have never been able to bounce back. You can't. This is a rap battle. It's nothing more than that. Okay, Leave it on blacks and that's it. He got the best of me on Tuesday.
Shannon Sharpe
Right, Jess? Hilarious. Took a shot at your Ghillie song.
Gilly
Ooh. What's Jesse? She was just at my Airbnb yesterday, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, she called it corny that you eating chicken and licking your fingers in the video. That's basically it.
Gilly
That was nothing. I could say a lot of things that I thought Jess did was corny.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, there you go. We gonna move.
Gilly
I love Jess and Larry, but I'm not gonna do that. I think Jess is hurt. Hilarious.
Shannon Sharpe
You got grandkids now?
Gilly
Yes. Three of them.
Shannon Sharpe
What's it like being a papa?
Gilly
It's the best thing in the world, man. That warmed my heart. Man, but it. It. It warm. You know what's so crazy, and this sounds funny, it warms my heart even more than my own kids when they were younger.
Shannon Sharpe
You'll let your grandkids get away with stuff. You never let your kids get away with it.
Gilly
And when I was younger, I was more in the mix. I was more trying to chase my dreams. I was more. Now I'm just like, I'm kicking it with my grandkids. Like, you know, I never really had that opportunity with my kids when they were younger because I had goals and shit and accomplishments that I was trying to achieve. Right now, I'm not really.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't chasing it like that.
Gilly
I'm not chasing it like that. And with my grandkids, it's just the best time ever, man. It's just. It's the best shit ever.
Shannon Sharpe
You lost your son.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
What do you want your son's keys.
Gilly
Memory to be? Uh. More than his memory. Right. I want the youth to understand how important life is. Mm. And how fast your life could be taken from you. You know what I mean? As far as his memories, I'm always keeping his name alive because that's my son. And I feel as though he should have been burying me and not me burying him. But it's more a lesson to the youth of tomorrow. Ain't promised. So you gotta understand that that dumb shit you out here doing and you intertwining with, you could lose your life at any moment. And you losing your life don't only affect you. It affect your parents. It affects. You gotta. It affect all the people that really love you and care about you. Because a lot of times, these youth, these youngest, they don't respect life because they ain't got a chance to live life yet. You know what I mean? I was struggling. I'm not never going to sugarcoat shit. I was struggling with my son, trying to get him to out the streets. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not going to sugarcoat none of that shit. I wish we didn't even have the best relationship when he passed because he wanted to be a street. And I didn't. I didn't believe in that. I didn't subscribe to that shit. So I'm. So my message is for the youth is that. That go ahead and do something that's beneficial to you. Man. The streets ain't beneficial to you? The streets don't love nobody. If you could show me the drug dealer with the big house on the hill, I congratulate you if you could show me 10 successful drug dealers you could tell me 10 street I'mma show you nine. That's going to tell so all of this shit is a myth. That's what I want them to know. And it ain't even about Cheese no more. It's about saving some other lives that think this shit is more than what it is. I can't do nothing for Cheese. Cheese is gone.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay ladies, when I said we came to play, didn't I mean it?
Disney Cruise Guest
This Disney cruise got me feeling like a queen.
Shannon Sharpe
We can get massages at Sense of Spa, have a meet and greet with Black Panther.
Disney Cruise Guest
Oh I love him.
Shannon Sharpe
And I can't wait to sunbathe on the private island.
Disney Cruise Guest
And the kids will be fine.
Shannon Sharpe
Girl, they're good.
Gilly
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
While they hang in the kids club with Mickey Mouse, we can do our thing and do it well all day.
Gilly
Disney Cruise Line is where we came to play. So all I can do is the things that I believe in Islamically. Buying a wishing well over here, getting a well over here, doing something for somebody that's less fortunate because I believe that that helps my son and Jenna. But other than that, it ain't about cheese no more. Cheese ain't here. It's about me saving somebody else's life and letting them know that you can die out here. Somebody will blow your brains out. Playing out here and thinking this shit is not serious when it is. So what do you want to do? Do you want to live life? You want to be here for your parents? Or you want to subscribe to this fake ass street shit and get the melon knocked that. Get the seeds knocked out your watermelon? Because that's all that's going to happen. Because it ain't no successful drug dealers out here. There's not no successful criminals out here. No. They die and they go to jail. So if you want to be in jail for the rest of your life, that's cool. If you want to get the seeds knocked out your melon, that's cool. But I'm here to tell you, that's what's going to happen. That ain't even about Cheese no more.
Shannon Sharpe
I had a conversation with Wallow, and Wallo was the one that broke the news to you that your son had passed. You remember that conversation?
Gilly
Yeah. No, it wasn't even a conversation. It was. We was in the hospital and Wallow broke down and walked out of the hospital.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you know something then?
Gilly
Absolutely. Absolutely. 100% I knew something.
Shannon Sharpe
You say, okay, Wallow, what's up?
Gilly
I already knew. So when I followed him out, I already knew what it was because I already knew who it was coming from. It was coming from Skip. Skip is a police officer in the Philadelphia Police Department. So I already knew where it was coming from.
Shannon Sharpe
How did your son get involved? How did Cheese get involved in that life? Because at this point in time, Gilly, you had. You made a name for yourself. You got braided.
Gilly
Well, you gotta understand, and I can only tell the truth. Being a follower, plain and simple. Being a follower wanting to subscribe to some shit that's not really you. And that's most of the kids out here. Most of the kids in the suburbs subscribe to shit that is not even really them. And then they gotta prove themselves. Well, I don't believe you. You grew up in the suburbs. I don't believe you. Tough. So what you gonna do? You gonna prove yourself? And then a lot of them end up trying to prove themselves, and a lot of them end up in a sad situation.
Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
Gilly
You know what I'm saying?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Gilly
Like now, I can't say that my son was just a totally suburban. He hung out in North Philly. He hung out in the ghettos. He grew. He had family down there, so. But what he was trying to be wasn't him.
Shannon Sharpe
He chose a life that he didn't have to.
Gilly
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
You, on the other hand, you grew up in that that's all you knew that was around.
Gilly
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Your mom had you out in the berms, like you said, when you went to college, it exposed you to something else.
Gilly
Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, a lot of times the kids in the ghetto, they subscribe to something because of an image. They don't want to be looked at as pussy. The kids. Oh, he turkey. Oh. They don't want to be looked at as a certain way. So that'll drive a. That's not even into that life to do some shit that he had no business doing because he don't want to be perceived as a certain way.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm sorry that you had to hear the comments about the Illuminati because you got money now, and normally when black people get money, you had to do the Illuminati. You had to sell your soul. So you had to sacrifice your son.
Gilly
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
In order to stay in good graces and keep this paper coming now.
Gilly
Now that we. We know one of the kids that was responsible for murdering my son. Right. So I guess the Illuminati came to a 16 year old kid that's in high school and said, we need you to kill Gilly's son for Illuminati purposes. See? See how idiotic this shit sounds? Mm. That as a black man, you can't just work hard.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Gilly
And put the work in every day. And blessings come from that. That you gotta come from somewhere else.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
So I don't pay that shit no mind, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Have you met the kid? Have you talked to the kid that took your son's life?
Gilly
Nah, I never met him. I never. Only reason why I know is because the police called me and told me once he was murdered, once he got. Cause the kid had just got shot 17 times. He was walking with his mom. Oh. And he got murdered. And then the police notified me and let me know that he was one of the kids that was pretty much about to get locked up for the murder. But he got murdered first. So. And then, you know when you do something in the streets, the streets know. So, you know, they all on Instagram and they talk. And then, you know, apparently this kid name was the Joker. And you know, that's what he did. So, you know, but he had to deal with God. You know, that's how I look at it.
Shannon Sharpe
And then Charleston White says something disrespectful and derogatory towards your son, but he later apologized. Did you accept this apology? Did you talk to Charleston?
Gilly
No. But, you know, you can't. I can't Respect niggas like that. Because what I know you for when I ask you what do you know him for? Think about it. You don't even know you know him for disrespecting niggas. That's known, right? Think about that. You ain't putting no work in out here. You ain't did nothing. You got on the Internet at 40 something years old, a nigga that had nothing going on and disrespected niggas that put work in. I can't respond to no like that. Me and you ain't on the same level. Think about that. I can't respond to a that call pos online. Wow. Think about that. I can't respond to nobody that tell you, come, come, come do this. You got a gun. Come, nigga, let's get it. We can get into it. But then you call a PO online, man. It's pretty obviously me and you ain't the same type of man. So I let do they talk. And man, I ain't. I don't worry about that shit, man. We talk about that. I don't even know what I know you for. You ain't did nothing. Wow. Feel what I'm saying?
Shannon Sharpe
I do.
Gilly
I don't know what I know you for other than talking shit about that's known.
Shannon Sharpe
That's actually doing something.
Gilly
That's actually doing something, man. What we talking about, man?
Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned earlier in the interview that you had gotten shot. I think you got shot in the wrist, stomach.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
In the foot.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How did that happen?
Gilly
Pulled the gun out on me.
Shannon Sharpe
He got the drop on you?
Gilly
Got the drop on me.
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't run as fast as you ever. I thought you could run.
Gilly
That's why I'm still in. I told you wallow would have been dead. We would have been hit so hard. How do I see Good blow I.
Shannon Sharpe
Got there at the end of the road.
Gilly
You slow, motherfucker. I got busy.
Shannon Sharpe
How do we get gun violence out of our community?
Gilly
Community?
Shannon Sharpe
Is it possible, Gilly?
Gilly
Nah, it's never possible. Can we.
Shannon Sharpe
Can we reduce it?
Gilly
Yes, we can reduce it.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Gilly
Some laws gotta change, okay? Especially in Philadelphia. See, there's laws all different ways. See, in Philadelphia, you come home for gun cases. Motherfuckers beat gun cases every day. You know why in New York don't carry guns like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you going away for a minute.
Gilly
They lock plexico burris and they go.
Shannon Sharpe
You going away for a minute.
Gilly
They don't play the Super Bowl. They said we don't give a. Yeah, he had a gun in the club. Tick tock.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, and he shot himself.
Gilly
Lil Wayne.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Gilly
Come on, you had a gun. Come on. So in New York, don't really carry guns unless they going to go do some shit, right? You feel what I'm saying, Philly? Everybody carry guns. Everybody. Because these be gun cases every day. Oh, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss. So until you change the laws, it ain't gonna be really no gun then. Think about it. In Atlanta, you just a lot anybody could carry.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, yeah, it's open carry state. I mean the south is. Everything is open.
Gilly
That shit's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, it's the wild, wild west. I just read about this 17 year old basketball player, straight A student, am I wrong? Gillette used to be like the athletes, they got protected, right? Nobody touched them. Hey, he couldn't out. He gonna be what you know, they gonna be talking about the block. He from the block. He got out. They protected those guys. What happened?
Gilly
That's who killed my son.
Shannon Sharpe
The 17th?
Gilly
Yeah. The 17 year old basketball player that just got shot 17 times? Yes, that's who killed my son. Really? Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
What was that about?
Gilly
Well, it wasn't for my son.
Shannon Sharpe
Your son happened to be there?
Gilly
Yes. Oh, them blocks is beefing. They going through it. My son just so happened to pull up out there, five minutes, they come to shoot the block up. My son's not from that block. He. Don't you feel what I'm saying? He just so happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Shannon Sharpe
What the.
Gilly
That's how deep it is, bro.
Shannon Sharpe
He has the potential to get out, right? And he living that life.
Gilly
No, no, no, but see, you don't understand. He got videos out where he got a jerker mask on, right? Bunch of guns in his hand. He. So these kids is influenced by all the wrong things. Right to shit that don't matter, you know what I mean? Right to shit that once upon a time, when I was growing up in the ghetto, I was influenced by. And then when you experience things, when you go places, when a vacation to you is not going through a toll booth. See, you gotta understand, if you from Philly right now, go to Atlantic City and you call them and they say they out of town. Yo, I'm OT. I hit you, nigga, you 45 minutes away. Nigga, you my cripto. The are you talking about? That's how poor the city is, right? Mother go to Atlantic City and they tell you, yo, I'm OT, I'll call you when I get back, right? You 39 minutes away in a car. What are you talking about? You ot, so you gotta understand, that's what we grow up in. These kids don't know no better.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
These kids actually think that you can't make it as a rapper unless you killed somebody. Unless you did something out here in these streets. This is the mindset.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Why is the rap. Why is that glamorized? Why is going to jail? Or I pull that iron out, I put that stick on something. Why is that glamorized?
Gilly
I have no idea. I told you, when I was young, we glamorized the person that was getting money. The hustler. That's why rap names was like gotti rap games. It was always somebody that was getting some money. Now it don't be about no money or nothing. They'll kill you about an Instagram post.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Gilly
You said you was gonna slide. You ain't slide yet, right? Now slid like, like. Are you serious? Right? So it don't make no sense and there's no answer for it. It's just like. It's just flat out plain stupidity.
Shannon Sharpe
Have you ever thought about leaving Philly?
Gilly
Oh, I live in Jersey, so you know what I mean. I'm somewhat racist. What that doing by my house, bro? Come on, you ain't never seen that. My house by itself is the one by my house.
Shannon Sharpe
You provided $4 million in grants for black owned businesses and social services overseas.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You feel like that it's your responsibility.
Gilly
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
To give back?
Gilly
Yes. You gotta understand, there's people out here that got businesses and they work their way up. Nobody ever gave them nothing in their life. I had an opportunity to bless a bunch of businesses, a bunch of people that's doing it right. Because you just didn't have to be a business. You had to be a business that struggled during COVID You had to be somebody that paid their taxes. You had to be a real business. And for the minorities that were real business, it was a pleasure to run up on them and give them 100,000, 50,000, 25,000, 200,000. Whatever it was, it was an honor.
Shannon Sharpe
I think as a father, I think a lot of times as a parent, we want our kids to. We don't encourage our kids to follow in our footsteps, but hey, if they do, so, hey, I had a son, if he'd followed in my footsteps, I didn't encourage. Okay, fine, cool. To have a daughter follow in your footsteps.
Gilly
What's that been like, man, you know what? It is beautiful. Because she's getting responses that she's looking for, okay? You know what I mean? If they follow in your footsteps, they ain't shit. See what I mean? Your son playing tight end at Coppin State. He got two catches in four years. He like, I love Lil Shannon, but this nigga ain't shit.
Shannon Sharpe
And a lot of times. But that's. That's the hard part, right? Is that when your dad is successful and that's what Bronnie is up against, right? Well, he ain't.
Gilly
That's what Mike up against Lil Jordan snorting in your.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, but who thought that, okay, God's gonna give you. God's gonna make your son. LeBron gonna make LeBron James. He gonna make Michael Jordan. And you know what? By the way, I think your son should be just as good as y'all two.
Gilly
Look, this don't happen.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, bro.
Gilly
You know what I mean? But I'm like, they think Mike's situation. He out here selling more sneaks than n playing now with his son running around here. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And Michael Jordan, they played basketball in.
Gilly
20 years, sell more sneaks than everybody. And your boy, you like Lee. Snort the coke in the house, nigga. Damn. You can't even wait till you get.
Shannon Sharpe
To the crib to get busy. Let me ask you this. But when you hear. I don't know if you've heard this, but if you were to hear somebody say something negative about your daughter, how would that make you feel?
Gilly
I mean, at the end of the day, I'm in the media, so I know how I go. I understand that. Like, you just talked about somebody who talked about my son that passed away. That shit don't even make me feel no type of way. Because I'm like, you didn't know me. You didn't know my son, right? So for media, whatever, it's never going to be all sunshine. And the basis of a true character in a person is what you do when shit is most difficult. It's not what you do when the sun is shining, everybody happy when the sun is shining. What did you do when shit was most difficult? Did you crack like a egg thrown off the project roof? Or did you say, okay, it is what it is. This is what it is. Now let me attack this shit head on. That's all I'm worrying about. Because we don't. The way I'm designed. You got me in you. We don't give a About what people say that have no control over what we doing. I post shit on my Instagram for people to talk shit. I Don't give a. This is entertainment, right? Are you entertained? That's all I care.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Gilly
If you're not, I ain't doing my job. And I'm not allowed to keep these tens of millions of dollars coming in because that's all the that matter to me is that my grandkids ain't gonna have the same issues that I had. Other than that, baby, everything ain't. Don't worry. My daughter truly know. Do I give a about what anybody think about me? I'm 48 years old. I showed up to a goddamn football game in a full uniform. Think about that. Thigh pads, knee pads, hand warmers, the quarterback play sheet helmet. I didn't even have real shoulder pads. I had goddamn lacrosse shoulder pads on. So my shit all lopsided. Think I to the point when the players see me, they like this crazy. Yeah, I am, nigga. I want that Super Bowl.
Shannon Sharpe
But and this is what I told time coach Brian. I say, bro, I don't believe the people are hating on your kids. They hating you.
Gilly
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
This is the opportunity. So they might not. This is about you. Get la. This ain't about her. You right, because we want to be protective of our kids.
Gilly
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't got nothing against her. I got everything against you, though.
Gilly
Absolutely. Just like at. Just like Shiloh. Yeah, right. He go to the Shrine Game, right? You didn't see nothing about any other player come out of the Shrine Game? Nope.
Shannon Sharpe
Shiloh struggling and coverage because what, you ain't never heard nobody say his daddy struggled in coverage.
Gilly
Right, Right. So at the end of the day, what I do, I DM him. That's gonna be great.
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
Gilly
What they talking about? And then the game come up. And then when the actual game come, y'all have nothing negative to say except we mean, please. So that's what it is, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, without further ado, I'm honored to have your daughter perform right here on Club Shay Shake.
Gilly
Oh, man, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's welcome. I gotta drink some more. This smooth shit to that. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You the one that you'll be psyching.
Gilly
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, come on.
Gilly
Come on.
Shannon Sharpe
Coming to the stage right now, the singer, unreleased Plastic Cup. Well, let me say this ain't you.
Gilly
I'm happy, man. I'm happy. It's my baby.
Shannon Sharpe
New York lady, what type of time you on, baby?
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Shannon Sharpe
On.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Gilly
Yes. Yes. Appreciate you brother. Love you brother. All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice got to roll the dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life look all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle, paid the price, wanna slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding.
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Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay - Gillie Da Kid Part 2
Episode Information:
Shannon Sharpe opens the conversation by addressing various disagreements Gillie Da Kid has had with notable figures in the industry, including DJ Khaled (referred to as "J. Hov"), Birdman, and Ross. This segment explores the nature of these conflicts and Gillie's perspective on maintaining relationships amidst disagreements.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Sharpe [02:00]: "But you did have with Ross."
The discussion shifts to how Gillie handles negative comments and misinformation, particularly from online sources like TMZ. Gillie emphasizes the importance of not taking online criticisms personally and focuses on genuine connections and support systems.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [05:25]: "God ain't gonna bless you trying to come up off the number back of another man. You ain't gonna get no blessings like."
Gillie shares the origins of his podcast, "A Million Dollars Worth of Game," highlighting the initial skepticism towards the medium and the strategic efforts to grow its audience. He discusses how personal outreach, such as direct messaging (DMing) potential guests like Drake and LeBron James, has been instrumental in securing high-profile interviews.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [06:16]: "I didn't know what a podcast was. And then just to be honest, when I went and looked at a podcast, not saying no names, I was like, who would watch this?"
A deeply personal segment where Gillie reveals the tragic loss of his son, "Cheese," to gun violence. He discusses the impact of this loss on his life, his commitment to preventing similar tragedies among youth, and his efforts to use his platform to educate and inspire positive change.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [54:21]: "I want the youth to understand how important life is. And how fast your life could be taken from you."
Gillie delves into his entrepreneurial ventures, including his podcast studio and investments in boxing promotions. He highlights the importance of providing opportunities for others and shares anecdotes about live events and the challenges faced, such as dealing with unexpected interruptions by law enforcement.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [42:35]: "My best investment was 'A Million Dollars Worth of Game' buying all of the 17 cameras we got and the studio house."
The conversation turns to Gillie's role as a father and grandfather. He reflects on the joys and responsibilities of parenthood, the importance of being present for his grandchildren, and his desire to ensure they grow up without the struggles he faced.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [53:22]: "It's the best thing in the world, man. That warmed my heart."
Gillie and Sharpe discuss the pervasive issue of gun violence in communities like Philadelphia. Gillie shares his personal experiences with gun-related incidents, including being shot himself and the loss of his son. He advocates for legislative changes to reduce gun violence and emphasizes the need for community support and education.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [66:07]: "Some laws gotta change, okay? Especially in Philadelphia."
The episode explores the dynamics of rivalries within the music industry, particularly focusing on rap battles and the impact of personal conflicts on one's career. Gillie offers insights into maintaining professionalism and prioritizing personal growth over public disputes.
Notable Quote:
Gillie Da Kid [51:01]: "But what I'm saying is, bro, it's only a rap battle. That's all it is."
Shannon Sharpe wraps up the episode by introducing a performance from Gillie's daughter, highlighting the family's artistic talents and legacy. The segment underscores the importance of family support and celebrating each other's achievements.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Sharpe [77:24]: "Well, without further ado, I'm honored to have your daughter perform right here on Club Shay Shake."
Resilience Amidst Adversity: Gillie Da Kid shares his journey through personal loss, emphasizing the importance of resilience and using personal experiences to fuel positive change.
Impact of Public Perception: The episode highlights the challenges of managing public perception and media narratives, especially in the age of social media.
Entrepreneurial Spirit: Gillie's ventures into podcasting and boxing promotion illustrate his dedication to creating platforms that provide opportunities for others and foster community growth.
Community Advocacy: A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to addressing gun violence, advocating for legislative changes, and supporting youth to prevent them from falling into destructive patterns.
Family and Legacy: The importance of family support, ensuring a positive legacy for future generations, and balancing personal and professional life are recurring themes.
Conclusion: In this emotionally charged and insightful episode, Gillie Da Kid opens up about his personal struggles, business endeavors, and commitment to his community. Shannon Sharpe skillfully navigates the conversation, allowing listeners to gain a deep understanding of Gillie's motivations, challenges, and aspirations. This episode serves as a powerful testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the impact one individual can make through dedication and advocacy.