Club Shay Shay - Jess Hilarious Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Jess Hilarious Part 1 Released on March 26, 2025

Introduction In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe welcomes comedian and social media star Jess Hilarious. Known for her vibrant presence both on stage and online, Jess shares her journey through comedy, personal growth, and navigating the complexities of the entertainment industry.

Early Life and Upbringing Jess Hilarious opens up about her childhood in West Baltimore City, detailing a nurturing two-parent household where both her mother, a church deacon, and her father, a DJ and Marine, played pivotal roles. [10:33] She recounts the balance her parents maintained—strict and lenient parenting styles—and the values they instilled in her and her brother, Kevin. Jess emphasizes the importance of her upbringing in shaping her work ethic and approach to life, stating, “They gave us what they didn’t have.”

Educational Experiences Jess discusses her time attending a predominantly white high school in York, Pennsylvania. Initially apprehensive, she overcame fears of being different and embraced the diversity, which helped her become one of the most popular students. [15:48] She reflects on how this experience exposed her to different cultures and the feeling of being a minority, teaching her resilience and adaptability.

Career Beginnings and Challenges Transitioning into her career, Jess shares her early struggles, including dabbling in drugs during high school due to peer influence and a lack of familial support among her friends. [18:04] She candidly discusses her single semester studying mortuary science, where a frightening clinical experience led her to abandon that path. [23:07] Jess also admits to past mistakes, including stealing from a modeling agency, for which she served time in jail. [26:31] She expresses remorse over these actions, highlighting her transformation and commitment to personal growth.

Breaking into Comedy and Social Media Jess details her entry into the comedy scene, inspired by pop culture figures like Maury Povich. [25:08] Her first viral video was a parody of the "Who's the Father?" segment, which propelled her into social media stardom. [26:01] Emphasizing authenticity, she developed a unique comedic voice that resonated with a broad audience. Jess states, “I just kept doing videos,” illustrating her dedication to honing her craft.

Authenticity and Embracing Identity A significant portion of the conversation centers on the importance of embracing one's true self. [04:46] Jess stresses that staying authentic in her speech, dress, and demeanor keeps her relatable and grounded. She shares her admiration for fellow comedians who remain true to themselves, saying, “Being unapologetically me” is crucial for her connection with fans.

Interactions with the Comedy Community Jess discusses her experiences touring with established comedians like Katt Williams and Mike Epps. [43:14] While she maintains professional relationships, she prefers keeping personal distance to preserve her authenticity. Jess recounts mentoring moments from industry veterans, such as Mike Epps advising her on business ownership, which have been instrumental in her career development.

Television Ventures and Wild 'N Out Transitioning to television, Jess talks about her stint on Wild 'N Out and her role in the sitcom Rel on Fox. [35:30] She describes the audition process for Wild 'N Out, highlighting its competitive and spontaneous nature. [56:26] Despite initial success, the show faced legal battles, leading to its cancellation. Jess reflects on the challenges of working in television, expressing both gratitude for the opportunities and frustrations with the creative constraints she encountered.

Handling Controversy and Negative Feedback The discussion delves into the difficulties of managing public perception and negative comments on social media. [72:57] Jess emphasizes the importance of not engaging in online conflicts, stating, “You can’t go to war with everybody.” She advocates for focusing on personal growth and ignoring baseless negativity, reflecting a mature approach to handling fame.

Personal Life and Relationships Jess touches on her personal life, including her role as a mother and her relationships within the industry. [85:37] She candidly shares experiences with family members who have been part of her professional journey, discussing the complexities of working with loved ones and the emotional toll it can take.

Views on Cosmetic Surgery and Body Image Addressing societal pressures, Jess shares her perspective on cosmetic surgeries like Brazilian Butt Lifts (BBLs). [82:27] She advocates for moderation, acknowledging the desire for personal enhancement while cautioning against extreme measures that can have serious health implications.

Conclusion Throughout the episode, Jess Hilarious provides an unfiltered look into her life, balancing humor with heartfelt insights. Shannon Sharpe and Jess engage in a dynamic conversation that underscores the importance of authenticity, resilience, and personal integrity in the face of adversity. Jess's journey from a challenging upbringing to becoming a prominent figure in comedy serves as an inspiring narrative of growth and self-discovery.

Notable Quotes:

• “Being unapologetically me” – Jess Hilarious [04:46]
• “If you lose who you are, that’s your identity” – Shannon Sharpe [05:57]
• “You can’t go to war with everybody” – Jess Hilarious [73:41]
• “People put a ceiling on you” – Jess Hilarious [71:55]

Final Thoughts Jess Hilarious's candid storytelling and insightful reflections make this episode a compelling listen for fans and newcomers alike. Her ability to intertwine humor with personal experiences offers a nuanced perspective on the challenges and triumphs of navigating the entertainment industry.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

When you got the job, Ocho and Al Nightcalf was talking about it and I said some comments and it went viral. I said that, you know, hey, ojo, she, she nice. She nice. So if I offended you, I want to take the time out to say I apologize. I didn't. That was not my intent. I didn't. And I don't ever want someone to feel uncomfortable with my comments.

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's why I wanted to take the time to say, I apologize for what I said.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, no, it's okay. That means you got some good eyes on you. That's just all that means, you know, Ain't nothing with it. All my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle paid the price Want a slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I been grinding all my life all my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle paid the price Want a slice, got to roll the dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. Welcome to Another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. And today we're at Spotlight, stopping by for conversation on the drink. Today, she's made a name for herself on the comedy circuit, spreading laughter both online and off. She quickly became one of the biggest rising stars in the industry, performing the sold out shows nationwide. A true force to be reckoned with in the world of entertainment. An undeniable staple in the digital age. A prominent, influential and outspoken social media star. A popular personality, actress, an entertainer, content creator, savvy businesswoman and a loving mother. And a fearless co host of the insanely popular, award winning syndicated morning talk show, the Breakfast Club. She's just with the mess, but her news is real. Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, the one and only. Very funny. Just hilarious.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you. You better run it down. I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like that.

[Jess Hilarious]

I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I tell people when they come on the show, I don't give people what they deserve. I give them what they earn. And everything that was written on this card, you've earned. So congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you so much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if you drank or not. You drank.

[Jess Hilarious]

I drank. I did one day. But what is this? What we got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's an award winning cognac. We won the SIP award in 2022, which means a blind taste test. We line up cups and all the other cognacs and people say, you know, we like a. So we beat all the pop. We don't have to name them, but you know, the cognac. And we beat them in a taste test. So I want to taste. I want to toast you.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think it's been about a year since you've been the co host of the brisket club, right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, it has been a year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And welcome your second child.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So for a loving mother and everything that you've accomplished and will continue to accomplish.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you. Now, you know, I'll tell you the truth. If this good, I'm gonna let you know. Cause I don't care how many. Aw, go ahead. I don't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's all about taste.

[Jess Hilarious]

Mm. All right. It's smooth. It's smooth. Cause I was ready to be like standing on. You gonna have to change the formula. All right. But no, it's good, it's good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, thank you very much.

[Jess Hilarious]

No problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for stopping by. Club Shay Shay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep. Baltimore, born and raised.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Born and raised.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y'all got an accent, though. I mean, what's really cool.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, we do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know, I'm from rural South Georgia. People bag on me. I've had a glow on and, you know. Glow from Memphis, bro.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you this, Jess. How important is it for you to embrace how you talk, the way you dress, the way you sound? How important is that for you to embrace who you are, to remain authentic to who you are?

[Jess Hilarious]

I mean, it keeps me relatable, and, you know, that's how I got to where I am, being unapologetically me, you know? Yes, we do have a strong accent. The you, the do, the two. We see Hot Doug instead of Hot Dog.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

What you doing all that? Yeah. You know, people love as much fun as people make about the accent. They love it everywhere I go. They like to hear me say things and everything like that. But the Baltimore will never die of me. You know, I've lived in la, I've lived in Atlanta, I've lived New Jersey, New York, but, you know, Baltimore will never die. You know, I gotta stay grounded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I first got into the media space, I got on television. I went to all these people to try to change my dialect, because I talk with a heavy colloquial dialect. Born from rural South Georgia. But once I realized that that's not who I am, I needed to embrace. And then once I really, like, heard Charles Barkley, I was like, man, Charles accent is worse than mine. He from Leeds, Alabama. And once I embraced who I was, people embraced who I was. You think that's of the utmost. Because if you lose who you are, that's your identity, Jess. Talking to dude and to Doug, that's who you are. And if you lose sight of that, you kind of lose whose side. Lose sight of who you actually are.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Now when I go to Baltimore, I get a little bit more Baltimore than I am outside of Baltimore. But it will never completely die within my dialect. No, it won't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who has the thicker accents, Memphis or Baltimore?

[Jess Hilarious]

Memphis. Memphis. Glow by girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love Glow.

[Jess Hilarious]

Moneybag. Yo. Oh, my God. Nle Chopper. I think Nle Choppa. He don't sound as Memphis as the rest of them. He don't. He don't. So that's the one that come. He's one of the ones that don't really get to Memphis, but Glow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Glow.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God. Sometimes I be like, what she say? But that's my baby. I love her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And she quickly said, but you country. I like Glo. Really? I'm country?

[Jess Hilarious]

You?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask all these famous people from Baltimore. Jada Pickett, Chrisean Rock, Monique, Carmelo, Mario Cisco, Javani Davis, Phelps, Babe Ruth, Thurgood Marshall, Billie Holiday, Montel Williams. What are some. What do you think? What is it about Baltimore and that so many of these people were able to leave Baltimore and become what we know them as today?

[Jess Hilarious]

We're talented, you know, we're like diamond in a rough city. You know what I mean? It's a lot of. We're overlooked a lot because we're known as, you know, you're not dc. Yeah, yeah. You know, and then people only know us for the Wire, right? You know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

Which is still one of my favorite TV shows of all time. I'm telling you. Not Power, not touching wire. The Wire. We. Who else but bmf now, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fidget gonna come for us now.

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me and you? Cause he gonna get mad at me. Cause I. He gonna get mad at me. Cause I allowed you to say it on this platform. He gonna come for you because you gonna say the Power's not touching the Wire.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, well, I said it before, and I say it again. 50. Now, he could try to redo the Wire and cast me if he want to, but other than that, the Wire is his favorite damn show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, really? So, yeah, yeah, Monique gave you some love. How did that make you feel when Monique. Because Monique is Monique. Before you answer that, is Monique misunderstood? What do people get wrong? Because I'm thinking that you have kind of a better relationship with her than most. What do people get wrong about Mo?

[Jess Hilarious]

Man, listen, that is a hard working woman. That's somebody that paved the way for all of Baltimore. Not even just on a comedy sense. Like, she. She's unapologetically her, right? Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

1,000.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. And when she's done wrong, you gonna hear it and you gonna hear about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She ain't letting nothing slide until you.

[Jess Hilarious]

Make it right with her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's the thing. Cause when you make it right, she good. Yep. She's a loving person. You know what I mean? Like, and she uplift me every chance she get. Listen, I remember I opened up for her one time, right? And when I opened up for her, I wasn't going through anything or anything like that. And that woman hugged me right before she went on stage. Cause I opened up for her, she hugged me and I just cried. Like, it was like. It's one of them hugs that I got you. I'm here for you. You're doing great. Keep doing what you're doing. F the naysayers and you know what I mean? So, yeah, she is Misunderstood. But she's also been done wrong too. And she's also understood. But I think a lot of. A lot of what she's been through has been neglected by those who caused that harm to her. And she just wants to make it right. Like she wanted them to make it right. She shouldn't have had to go to this platform and go to this extreme and go to that extreme to be heard about things that, you know, she's felt that she's been slighted a lot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is it just that you think when people do you wrong, the first thing they say, move on, get over it. You notice that?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do you think that is? Why can't people just embrace? Like, bro, if I say you, this is what you done, okay? Just acknowledge. Don't tell me I need to get over it. Yeah, you need to apologize.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is it so hard for people to apologize?

[Jess Hilarious]

Because it's not done to them. You know what I mean? Like, it's not done to you. You don't really feel it unless you're done wrong. You know what I'm saying? And I've been done wrong as well, you know, and sometimes I let it roll off my back, you know, and sometimes, nah, you gonna pay for that, you know, Depending on. Depending on what you did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean? And depending on if I wanna move on from it or not. Because everything don't deserve, you know, your time and energy to go back and forth with it, you know? But some things like, nah, you gonna feel what you did to me, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, Grew up in Baltimore, two parent household. How was that?

[Jess Hilarious]

Amazing. Really amazing. My parents, they were married up until a few years ago, but me and my brother Kevin, we got to grow up in a loving household. Our dad worked, our mom worked as well. Like, both of them worked, and they gave us what they could. We grew up in West Baltimore City, you know, Emerson Avenue, West Baltimore. And they were able to give us what they didn't have. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it. Was it a situ. Were they strict? Were they disciplinarians?

[Jess Hilarious]

One was strict, one was a disciplinarian, and one was lenient. My mom, she deacon of the church. I'm telling you, we was raised in church. We would go to church Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, you know, and then my dad, on the other hand, nah, that was the. He was the dj. He's the one that taught me all the music I know. I have such a wide variety of music that I listen to, you know, and then he's where I get my funny from. Like, my dad is like the comic of the family. But yeah, two different. But it's balance, right? Balance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. Boy, you talk about here and here, the two Ds. One's a Deacon, the other's a DJ.

[Jess Hilarious]

How did that happen? Yeah, yeah. Well, my dad was a marine. He went to the Marines, and he and my mom met in high school, and he married her right out of high school, you know, right before he went to the marines. And they just been together. They, you know, and I think they got married so young. They didn't really get to live the single life and to date and see what's out there. My mom has always been like just a one man woman and just a lover. And my dad, he didn't get to live out that bachelor life. And so that's what kind of like, deterred the marriage, you know. Later. Later. Later. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Looking back on that, how important do you think that was to have two parents and to have a loving environment to let you know if and when you decided to get married? We'll get into that a little later. And you decide to have kids. What was important, man?

[Jess Hilarious]

Just the structure of my household. You know, no household is perfect. No two parents are perfect. Yeah, I had the perfect balance, but still there were things that, you know, that every household has to endure, you know. But as both of my parents relate to me today, I am happy that they instilled in me, like, how to raise my children.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean? They never let us see certain things growing up, like when dad was broke and he, you know, we never knew that until I got older and he sat us down, talked to us when y'all had the latest tennis shoes and y'all was, you know, and they made us earn everything. But when y'all were walking around looking good and everything. Nah, my bank account was low. You know, these are conversations that my parents waited until my brother and I were grown to have, you know, and then my mom opened up to me about her being unhappy, you know, the last, what, 10, no, eight years of the marriage, you know what I mean? Infidelity played a part in it. And then how my dad just. He didn't want to leave because he still. That was the love of his life. He just still didn't get to fulfill that, you know, dating. And when you get married young, there's so many people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get married out of high school, like 18 nights.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you stay together until you in your 50s and 60s, you missed, you.

[Jess Hilarious]

Want to see what? Oh, BBL's out. Okay. This is. Okay, cool. This is nice. All right. Bitches can buy their edges. That's okay. You know, it's a lot of new things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did your parents. Did you see your parents argue? Did they argue in front of you?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, never. I've never seen my parents argue ever with each other. No, I did not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, and I read this quote, they say, what you crave as a child, you overcompensate as a parent.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. Hmm. Now, my son have seen me and his father go at it. My son has seen his father up. I ain't gonna lie. I done got into it physical with the dad, man. Me and Rome, that's my son's father. My son's name is Ashley.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's your oldest dad, Your oldest child?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep. My oldest child, Ashton. He's 12 now. His dad's name is Rome. And me and Rome done been through it. We have been through it. But we are really, really good friends and family today. But, yeah, yeah, I ain't take that rule from my parents.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You left that part out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Uh huh. Uh, very much. I did. I left it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You went to a. I mean, Baltimore, and you went to a predominantly white high school.

[Jess Hilarious]

I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How was that?

[Jess Hilarious]

It was scary at first, y'all. I ain't even gonna lie. My mother had pulled me away from Baltimore City public schools and was like, no, I want better for my child. And, you know, my dad was on board. My dad was like, ah. He was kind of going back and forth with it. Like, I don't want to just pull her from what she knows. She got her friends here, she's into sports here, she's doing things. She has her life here. I don't know if we should. But at the end of the day, they did. They were making a great decision. And I'm glad that my mom did that. I'm glad that my dad went on ahead with it. Cause a lot of things I learned, you know, I'm well rounded because of that. It was scary at first. I was acting like they was being racist and they wasn't. I was like, somebody just called me. And my mom was like, no, they didn't. I was like, all right, you're right. But I just don't want to go to school. They don't know how to dance. Everybody want me to teach them how to dance. And then I became one of the most popular kids in the high school. I was at that time. Cause it was York, Pennsylvania.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

At that Time. It was only. I think I was like, 1 out of 12 black students in the school. The school had about. I don't know. I would say 10,000 kids. Wow. Yeah. It was like the size of a university, like a college. Yeah. And it was a middle high school, so. Dallas town area. Dallas town area high school. It was in Pennsylvania. And it was scary at first, but I'm glad that I stayed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's funny that you said that. Cause my. My daughter's mom had the opposite. She was at a private school that was predominantly white. And she pulled her out because she said that's not reality. She said, you're not gonna be in a predominant area at any point in time in your life, so you need to be more rounded and be around people that look like you and have different ethnicities and so forth and so on.

[Jess Hilarious]

So she did the opposite, and I totally understand that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I did see. I did see on IG where this black. This young black female said that a black should not go to a predominantly white because you could lose sight of yourself.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. Something I've never done. I've never done that. I'm telling you. Like I said, you know, I was afraid at first because, yeah, I came from Baltimore City public schools. Everybody I saw looked like me. You know, little ponytail on the side. You know what I'm saying? Nobody combing the back of their head, so the buckshots is bugging. You know what I mean? But then I go up there, everybody got long, straight hair, blue eyes, and I'm just like, okay, this is what it is. You know? But it was like the opposite of what you just brought up. Like, I had already seen and been around black people for so long, and people who look like me in Baltimore, and it was good for them to pick me up and drop me in a place that was foreign to me, you know? Because then I learned other cultures. You know what I'm saying? And then I also learned what being the minority felt like. I learned what controlled racism was. I learned when somebody trying to be smart, they can't directly try to be slick. Yeah. Cause they know they get their knocked out. But so. And so I. Okay, yeah, this what y'all doing? All right. I got you. So, you know, it was great. Then I also made some of. Like, I met some of the greatest people that I've known since then up there, so I thank my parents for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you get in any fights? They call you names?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hell, no. Not to my face. Uh, no. No, listen, I. I ain't gonna Lie. Going to high school with white kids. That's how I got into drugs and all of that. I smoked my first blunt up there. I did my first shroom up there. Damn. Yeah. Bonfires and all of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So they. So. So how did this. So how did this happen? You like, okay, what y'all doing tonight? What y'all getting into tonight? You're like, okay, we gonna do this. Yada, yada, yada. You're like, okay, cool.

[Jess Hilarious]

They were. They were inviting me for a long time. Like, yo, you wanna come to this bonfire, dude? Like, it's gonna be great. Like, it's so cool. And I'm like, totally cool. Okay. Yeah. And I'm like, all right. Cool. I see what a bon. Because, you know, I'm from Baltimore. Ain't no bonfires down there. You say a fire is somebody house. You know what I mean? It's just. It's not a bonfire. So I go and I see them rolling up weed. I'm like, all right. I had never smoked weed, tried weed in my life until 10th grade in high school. I'm like, let me see. I'm like, what y'all putting it? Cause I know white people, lace, they stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me see. Cause, you know, I see little substances being poured on top the blunt, you know, I mean, pour it in it. And I'm like, give me a regular blunt. You know, I hit. It's cool. I'm hungry. I'm feeling a little funny, you know? And so I start telling jokes and stuff. But then I see people are tripping off of other things, and I'm like, what's that? Oh, yeah, well, that person, you know, Carlos had just had some acid over there, you know? I'm like, yeah, I ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want that.

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't want that. Nah. Then, you know, you got pills over here. We got. I'm telling you, these kids had everything except for their parents there all the time. That's what set them aside from me. That's when I started connecting with my friends on a different level. Because they would see how my parents were there. They would come home every night. They would tell me they love me. They would tell me, you know, because I would have my friends over, too. And I remember one of my friends saying, her name is Talia. She's like, you and your mom tell. You tell each other that you love each other, like, all the time. I'm like, yeah, you and your mom don't. She's like, no, not really. Like, I don't really see my mom. And that was the case for a lot of them. A lot of their parents, they own big corporations and work for big companies. They traveled all the time, and they would just give them kids money, you know, and that's how they would get into drugs. And everybody had a car and everything, but they would get into drugs, and they didn't really feel that love that they saw between my parents and I. So I connected with them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you think they had. So the next. So would you have tried your. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you stayed in Baltimore public schools. Do you believe you would've tried drugs? You would have experimented like you did?

[Jess Hilarious]

I definitely would have tried weed. I mean, my big brother smoked weed, and he started smoking weed when he was maybe 12 years old. And, yeah, so I would have tried that, but I probably wouldn't have got on the shrooms. I probably wouldn't have started with psychedelics at all. But, yeah, I do psychedelics for something different, though. I do it for clarity. It's not just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, what's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said did or do?

[Jess Hilarious]

I do. I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's present tense.

[Jess Hilarious]

Currently. Yes. Right now and today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, what. I mean, you trying to see the future? What's going on?

[Jess Hilarious]

Look, you can. It depends on how many shrooms you consume. You might be looking into the future or somebody else future, but you'll be up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me. So when you do you by yourself?

[Jess Hilarious]

Not all the time. I do shrooms with my sister and my fiance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, I mean, so what did they actually. Do they free your mind?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it like Adderall? Is it something like.

[Jess Hilarious]

See, I've done. See, I also got hooked on Adderall in high school as well. Cause I couldn't focus, and I needed that to focus, you know, it was a lot going on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

So it's very different from that. So shrooms, it's not really a high. You don't feel like a high. It's like. It's enlightenment, you know? And you feel open, and you can go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not out of it, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

You can tap. No. If you're scared, if you're a person who overthinks a lot, I would not recommend them for you. You know what I mean? Because you can go crazy, see? Yeah. If you doing all of that. Mm, mm, mm, mm. Like smokey in a pigeon coop, you ain't. You better not be. I Ain't doing no shrooms with you, Shannon. Yeah, but it's good. I still do it. Yes, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had a friend overdosed though, right?

[Jess Hilarious]

I did, I did. But that was not from Shroom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That wasn't from Shroom?

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did that scare you?

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely. Cause he was so young, you know, he was very, very young. And it was one of a few kids that actually. But this one was my friend. Yeah, he had overdosed. I forget what the drug was. It wasn't shrooms, though. It was something, I think it was like bath salts or something like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was messing them up, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you had some crazy jobs coming up.

[Jess Hilarious]

Uh huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A more ti. Well, horror. Funeral director.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, yes. No. So that's the thing, that's what I thought I wanted to be. You know what I mean? Because I went to college and did a semester, just a semester, I thought I really wanted to get into like being a mortician.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, because every job before that, Shannon, I swear, everybody was getting me fired. Everybody. You know, and so I'm like, if I work with dead people, can't nobody wake up and be like, oh, she did, you know, because they dead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Jessica, you was stealing.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was, but damn, you got you fired. But I ain't stealing from the people that was snitching. You gotta mind your business. Listen, if I'm working at a company, right, and I'm stealing the money and you see me and it ain't your company, come and try to get money with me, don't go and tell, oh, she. She's a stealing boss. So you wanna be the favorite, you know what I mean? And that ain't gonna get you no raise. That ain't gonna get no bonus for you. You could have been getting money with me on the side.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, would you steal. You was gonna steal money from the dead people to get comin up with money in their purse in their pocket, you go, no.

[Jess Hilarious]

But that was a very lucrative business to be in. People ain't never gonna stop dying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they're not.

[Jess Hilarious]

So I was going. I planned to stop stealing and making money the right way with the dead people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you wanted to go to study mortuary science?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, which I did for a semester. And I got scared because the clinicals, yo, they listen. And I'm not gonna say I wasn't paying attention in class, you know, but embalming fluid works very funny if you put too much into it, you know, limbs can lift up and gas can leave the body after you're well, yes. They stood up and that had happened. And that was the last time the people saw me. That was it. That's it. I said, I thought y'all was dead. And, you know, so I was scared and I said, I can't do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know, I had a buddy of mine, his father owned a funeral service, and he's like, man, dead people can't hurt you. I said, yeah, but they can make you hurt yourself.

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely. They sure can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You start. Somebody sit up in there, lynching. When you do straightening the hair and.

[Jess Hilarious]

Stuff, you damn run into a wall. I'm done. No, I'm done. So that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Social media. What made you start. What made you get on social media?

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, I used to watch Maury a lot, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maury Povich.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, I used to watch Maury Povich. Right. Even when I wasn't supposed to be watching that. And that was the very first skit that I did. I liked to do parodies back then, right. And so I remade that. The who's the Father? I was acting like I was the guy. And how they would have the confessionals. I'm not the Father. And they would have these, like, different angles. Like, it would be an angle down, looking up at the guy. And then it was just funny. So I remade that. And that skit took off, right? And then I'm like, damn, this person reposted it. Then this person posted it, then this person. I said, well, I can do this. So I just kept doing videos. And this was back when videos were only 15 seconds on Instagram. So I'm like, all right, I gotta make people laugh in 15 seconds. Let me do it. And so I just made a series of skits that went viral, and it just took off from there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you afraid to upload them?

[Jess Hilarious]

Some of them. Only because I was afraid that people would steal the idea, not whether or not people would think it's funny. I've always been funny my whole life, you know, but were you a class clown? Always even up there with the white people? That's how I got put out half the time. I was like, y'all put people. Y'all white, and y'all still put people out of class. I thought that was only a black thing, but they like, no, get your side of here. No, you trying to make everybody laugh. So. Yeah, but that's how that happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wanted that touch on this. It slipped over my mind. When you stealing, you go to jail for stealing. Did they put you in jail?

[Jess Hilarious]

I did go to Jail once, not forever stealing from any of my jobs. I was at this modeling agency, and I had. Stole from this one woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, Jess.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I know. I know where. Well, now you can. I'm reformed. I'm reformed. Now you know, so now people steal from me. I don't steal from them, so. But look, I was. I did. I stole from the director, and then I stole from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What, you stole money?

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, yeah, but. But this the thing. This the thing, all right? The assistant that I stole from, she had the nerve to take me to court, too. But she ain't had nothing on her card. I'm like, I didn't even get nothing off. I couldn't even order a pizza off your card. Lady, why are you up here standing in front of the judge talking about. And she also stole from me. Well, I didn't get nothing, so I shouldn't be tried for this. But the other lady, yeah, she had some big bucks. And so. Yeah, you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. I'm looking at you, Jess. I think you one of them people job to get her.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, it was a modeling agency, and they was lying to people, taking all their goddamn money, telling us that we can be Tyra Banks and Naomi Campbell and we couldn't be. Why would you tell me that? I ain't even tall enough. You know what I mean? And I really was going with this. It was people shorter than me. And, you know, it was people on the bigger side that they knew damn well wasn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Plus model. You could be a business model.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the Ashley? What's the Ashley? What's the Lady?

[Jess Hilarious]

You can. But not back then. Ashley Stewart's, Elaine Bryant and all them people. Yeah, that's what. Yeah, but you ain't. Come on. Now. Some of those people in there, they was just taking people's money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you was Robin Hood?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. And I went back to collect for everybody, but when it came time for me to give back everybody else, everybody left. So I was like, sure, I might as well keep all up for myself. So that's how that happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. What was the first video that went viral and you were hooked?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. My first jest with the Mess. That was my first jest with the mess. I used to do Jess with the Mess on reality tv. This is when love and hip hop first came out. Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. No, it was New York with Chrissy and Jim Jones and that I was. And then Amina, PETA, Guns and Tara and all of them. And I started doing just the mess around reality tv and then I started doing it with like just industry things. Other things. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it true Nikki unfollowed you because of one of your videos?

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't know why she unfollowed me, but I know she had reposted me a few times listening to some of her music that she dropped and then unfollowed me. A few people unfollowed me though, but I don't know the reason why. I don't be like, why you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, you can't be going back and forth with them barbs on social media though.

[Jess Hilarious]

J. I don't go back and forth with them. They go back and forth with themselves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't respond on social media. You don't go back.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not anymore. You haven't seen. You can't find a comment that I done commented on and since what did I say? I like, like last I think back in 2023, I said I'm not gonna comment anymore. They don't deserve for me to keep on commenting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How difficult is that? Because your nature is to come back.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, it is very difficult. That's why I don't read comments as often as I used to because listen, Jesse from around the way, Baltimore City, she on that app. She'll get in your ass. And. And I've learned a lot things that you would say to an MFO on the streets in Baltimore, sis, you can't do it online, don't do it online. It's not worth it and it's not. And at the end of the day, these people don't know you and they would never say this to your face. So don't go. What are we in the comments?

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is it people on social media, they'll say something slick, you get slicker back with them, and then they cry Bitcoin.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't believe you said that. You talk to a woman like that? No, she talked to me first like that, Period.

[Jess Hilarious]

And that's just what it is. You know what I mean? And that's another thing. Growing up in Baltimore, that's what it is. There's no rules. No, you know, you come at me, I come at you. You can't tell me how. No, you can't say that, though. It's like, no, no, no. And I think we live in a world now where sensitive and offended is the new trend, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, yeah, there are a lot of social media stars. You look at Desi Banks, Drew Ski, Young, Fly, Pretty, Vee B. Simone. This other guy, I'm sure you're gonna talk about him. Cause he has something to say about you. It wasn't bad, though. You know what I'm talking about, don't you excluded that guy. Did you connect with you? Did you see what they were doing? Like, well, damn, they doing this. I can do this. So, I mean, how did you even get started doing the uploading of the videos?

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, the first person that I ever saw was DC Young Fly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Jess Hilarious]

That is my brother. I know. He called me the same thing. I'm his brother too. That's what he said. But that's the only guy I let play with me like that, by the way. Yeah, really? But, yeah, yeah, I don't let nobody else call me they brother. I don't be playing around like that. But, yeah, I started off seeing him and, you know, King Botch and like, those people, and I'm like, yo, I actually didn't see any females. I only saw him. And I was like, yo, that guy is funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Even though I couldn't understand everything he was saying. Cause that Georgia is different from your Georgia. You know? I swear, when I first met dc, I would just listen and nod and laugh like I knew what he was saying and couldn't understand. And then I would ask Carlos Miller, like, do you know what he said? And he'd be like, yeah, I know what he said. Well, then both of y'all country. But I'm not country, so I don't know. But, yeah, that's what made me feel like, hey, yo, I can do this too, you know? Cause I could relate to D.C. he was himself, always himself. So. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So did any of the other guys, once you meet those. Met those people, did y'all share information? Did y'all share tips? Did y'all like, well, hey, let's get this money together.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I actually took B. Simone and Pretty Vee and watched Jazzy on their first tour. I. I did my first tour and I took them with me. So, yeah, that's how they got their start. And stand up. Well, Pretty Vee does a host of things. She Pretty V don't like doing no damn stand up. She is successful and entertaining, though, for sure. So, yeah, she's more like a host, but, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you meet Country Wayne?

[Jess Hilarious]

How did I meet Country Wayne? I know that it's not on your card. Let me see that damn card over there. How the hell did I meet him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He a nice dude, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, you ain't say it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. Yeah. But I don't even remember how I met the fella. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't sorry to that, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Keke, I'm sorry. I don't know that, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, I'm sorry. I just don't know. I don't remember how I met him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How old were you when you got on stage for the first time?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm? I don't remember how old I was, but it was 2013. 2013 when I got on the stage for the first time. The first big stage I Got on was 2014. I opened up for Martin and I had only been on stage two or three times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you always want to do stand up?

[Jess Hilarious]

No. The hell I did not. I didn't even know what all of that consisted of. Like, I grew up watching, like, Comic View, staying up late with my dad when I wasn't supposed to, and just watching Bruce Bruce and, you know, seeing the Deon Cole and seeing, you know. But I had never imagined that's what I would be doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I just always was funny, humorous, comical. But I never thought that I would be a stage comedy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So did you decide to do it? Or someone say, hey, Jess, you should try this? So how did you decide to go up on stage?

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen. So my big brother, Desi, he's not my biological brother, but he is somebody who is a mentor for me. He's also from Baltimore City, Desi Alexander. He's been a feature on my tour since I first started. This is the guy that people know when I'm coming. He coming too. Him and another guy from Baltimore. His name is Coolant. He's a promoter, and he also works for Nike now as well. They were doing open mic, and I would go all the time. And the local comedy scene in Baltimore was. It was just. It was funny. And I just always wanted to go and be a part of it, but not to get up on stage. And one day they just pushed me up on stage because I was already doing the sits and stuff, so people already knew who I was locally. And then they was like, you might as well try it. My brother's like, try it. And I'm like, ah, I don't know. So then he calls my name. I go up there. I didn't know what the light was. When they give you a light, that means, all right, your time is about to be up. Time is dwindling down. I thought they was taking pictures. I was up there. I supposed to been up there for 10 minutes. I mean, five minutes. It went from five to 10 to 15. And then the DJ dropped the music, and I'm like, well, damn. And they like, no. Cause you gotta get off. I'm like, oh, I didn't know. I didn't know the rules. Y'all pushed me up here now. Y'all trying to push me off, you know, so. And I started developing a like for it, right? Not really a love yet. Until Martin Lawrence had his brother call me and ask me to open up for him. And that's when I was like 13,000 people down at the Wells Fargo Arena. That's what it was called then. State Farm or Wells Fargo arena in Baltimore City. But that's when I realized, standing on that stage, making my city laugh like that, I'm like, all right, yeah, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause prior to that, you didn't have. So you didn't have a bug. It wasn't like, when you first got up there, you like, okay, I like this. I'm hooked.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, it wasn't until Martin actually called you and you said, yes, this is what I'm gonna do.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep. And that's when I started working on my craft. I started actually going, like, to open my other open mics outside of Baltimore City and writing jokes and stuff like that started.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you working at the time you quit your job?

[Jess Hilarious]

I was stealing. So, you know, that was. But I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and Ms. Pat do something together.

[Jess Hilarious]

Wow. I love Ms. Pat. No, but I am not a thief. Now fail me and Louise. I know, right? I know, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you do this. You get the bug, and so now you're writing stuff. You're like, I wanna be good at this. I wanna be the best I possibly can be at this. And you start taking it serious. And from that point on, when Martin brother called you, that was the moment that you said, what? This is what I'm gonna do?

[Jess Hilarious]

That is the moment. That is the moment. The moment when I was on stage, right? Cause I was scared as hell. He had called me about something else. He didn't even call me to ask me to do the show. First he called me. Cause Martin was working on plays. He wanted to get into the play, feel right. And was like, martin wants to do a play with you. Would you be interested? You know, once you thinking about yourself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kind of like Tyler Perry was doing.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah. And I was like, of course. And then we hung up. And then he called me back, like, well, what are you doing this weekend? Because, you know, Martin is on this what Now? Tour, right? And he stops in Baltimore. You know, he's from Maryland. I'm like, y'all know everything about Martin. Martin was one of my favorite actors coming up. Like, you know? And so he was like, yeah, would you mind opening up for him? You got 10 minutes to come. And I was like, shit, I got an hour. Lying, lying. And so soon as I hung up, I called my brother. I'm like, yo, I get to open up for Martin. I only been on stage two or three times. I need you to help me. He helped me. That day of the show, I went out there. It was me, Melanie Camacha. And he had one other person. I forget who it was. And then he went on. I went out there. I forgot everything. Me and my brother wrote down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord.

[Jess Hilarious]

But because I was home and it was Baltimore City, and I knew the lingo. I knew what they loved. I knew. I know we love some damn crabs. I. You know, I born and raised there. I can only speak to my city. Who better? So. Killed it. Killed it. Did a solid good 10, 12 minutes. And Martin was right there standing on the side. Cause he wanted to see how I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

And it was amazing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was your big break.

[Jess Hilarious]

And that's when I was like, I'm gonna do this right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Give me your Mount Rushmore, Baltimore comedians.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You know what? Don't do Baltimore.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna take it broad. You get four comedians. Cause a lot of times, people be trying to put seven, eight people on Mount Rushmore. There's only four.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, there's only four, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's only four heads.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So give me your Mount Rushmore comedians, Pastor. Dead or alive, it does not matter, man. Woman. It does not matter. You can have four women. You can have four men. You can do it both mix and match. It does not matter. Give me Jess. Hilarious. If she said, okay, Jess, who are your Mount Rushmore comedians?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm? Bernie Mac, Katt Williams, Kevin Hart. Oh, that last one, I'm just gonna say. Just hilarious. Cause I wanted to, you know, it's hard. It's hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You went with a lot of the modern comedians. Yeah. And didn't go back too much like Richard Pryor.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Cause I. I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I didn't study them. I didn't really watch them. You know what I mean? I didn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Touring with comedians, what's that like, going on a roll with comedians? Do y'all interact or do you. Hey, I'm in my dressing room. When it's time for me to go out, I go out. I go back. Boom, I'm out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Mm. Me, I don't really interact a lot with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or you standoffish with people.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, no, no, no. I'm staying my space. Ish. That's what I am. Because, you know, just. It's a lot that goes into it. You know what I mean? And then. Not that I'm not friendly, you know what I mean? But I treat work like work, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't trying to get close to nobody, huh?

[Jess Hilarious]

No. And it's not even purposely. I'm not trying. I just don't you know, it's a lot of just. I. No, I don't. I'm not. You won't catch me hanging out. You know, the most hanging out that I've done is on Wild N Out. You know, I love my Wild N Out family. I love all those comics there and everything. But. Yeah, that's. That's. But that's it, though. You know, I will say, like, people like, you know, what is his name? Bill Bellamy. He's a great person. Mike Epps. Mike Epps was the first person to call me to drop gems like. Like, he was the first person that I actually talked to that I could say, like, was mentoring me about ownership and just a lot of different things, like, where. I think he made mistakes in his first. I mean, in the early days of it getting started. Yeah. And then he would make things clear to me, so I can not make those same mistakes and things like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned being on the road. Mike Epps, Ricky Smiley, Monique and Bruce.

[Jess Hilarious]

Bruce.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's some of the crazy stories? Because this is the old guy. I mean, I used to see Bruce. Bruce in Atlanta. Monique's been at it a while. Mike Epps been at this thing, you know, probably three decades. Ricky Smiley's been at the same thing. What are the. When you're on the road, do you try to pick their brain and try to get info on how to do this thing, how to go about it? Am I doing it right? What should I do different? Are you trying to get advice?

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not.

[Jess Hilarious]

Mm. Mm. No, I'm not trying to get advice. And I don't. Yeah, no, I don't try, because this is the thing. Yo. I don't even like to watch other people stand up, because I don't. It's very easy to imitate without doing it, without knowing that you do it. You know what I mean? Like, I remember this one day I watched Sebastian. I forgot his last name. He was a comedian. I watched him all day. And I had a show that night, and I went on stage and I found myself speaking like this man. And I'm like, ah, I can't do that. You know? But. So I don't watch stand up. I don't try to pick anybody's brain. I will say Lunel and Leslie Jones.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Jess Hilarious]

Those two, they're really, really good women. I love those two women to death. Like, anytime that they feel the need, something is laid on their heart, they reach out to me and they. I don't even ask them for advice. They just give it and give it. And I love those two because they're very supportive of me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had Kat on, and he said, jess, hilarious is one of his favorite up and coming comedians.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. Listen, Katt was doing a lot of things up here, so when they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I caught a lot of flag for that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, it took me. First of all, it took me four days to watch all of it, you know? Cause I ain't. Y'all was up here for 10 hours. I was like, damn, I hope Shannon ain't had nobody else after him. But. But listen, they. I started watching it, and then everybody called on my phone. Yo, you seen what Cat Williams said? I'm like, what'd he say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, you know, did he say something?

[Jess Hilarious]

Then I'm. Then they sent me. They said, no, it was great. I went and watched and I said, oh, okay, good. Let me breathe. Cause I had only heard about everybody else that he didn't have anything nice to say about. So I was like, oh, God, how the hell would I do? You know? But I'm glad because he's actually one of my favorite comedians, too. Like his earlier stuff. Oh, my God, I love Katt. I grew up on Katt Williams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That interview. You mentioned that interview. What did you think?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. I think you ain't had to ask no questions. You didn't have to have. You didn't. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Didn't nobody get mad at me, though, Jess.

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't know why they got mad. They shouldn't have got mad at you, first of all. Listen, Katt only do interviews when he got something to say. Yes, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

It ain't like you called him and said, look, come up here. I got something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had been trying to get him for a year.

[Jess Hilarious]

I get it. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, you know, he drives everywhere. He takes the bus. And so he was gonna be on.

[Jess Hilarious]

This side of town.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, you know, I met a lady that hitting her job, and she was going to be his executive assistant.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I've been trying to line him up for a year. I talked to her one Friday. The following Friday, he's sitting on the couch. And so now, mind you, when he comes in, he's already on one.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't know why they got mad at you. I'm telling. I tell you one thing, though. It was good for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was.

[Jess Hilarious]

And it was good for him, too. It was good for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was great for me.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It really put me on the map. It put me on the map. And it made people take my platform very, very serious. And advertising sponsors took notice of that and a lot of good. And hopefully it was mutually beneficial to him. Absolutely. But, you know, he had a lot to say about gatekeepers.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you believe there's such a thing?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I do. I do believe there. I believe it kicks in. If a certain person don't like you. Maybe you said something to offend the friend of someone or. Or, you know, you. Or, you know, you offend a community of people or whatever, however it goes. Yeah. There is always someone who makes that decision or maybe a group of people that makes that decision, whether or not to indulge in affairs with this person or, you know, business, you know. Yeah. I do believe in gatekeeping, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where are you on joke stealing? Because Katt had a lot to say about joke stealing. He felt. He said a joke, said stole the joke, but he used a different apparatus. One guy used the Caddy, the other guy used the spaceship. Some people say, bro, if it's that serious, write a new joke. If it was that easy for him to steal the joke, the joke wasn't that deep to begin with. Where is Jess? Hilarious on joke stealing.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, I remember a time when I first started comedy, right? Telling you, I never studied the art of it. I didn't know. And I sat. I met at a show, and there was this comedian from Baltimore, right? And she had a joke about squirting, right? I didn't like the way she told it, right? So I said, all right, I'm gonna take it, spin it around, throw a little Jess on that bitch, and I'm gonna retell it, right? And I did that. And there is a comedian, OG by the name of Larry Lancaster, who had pulled me to the side at the end of that show and was, hey, you can't do that. You know, because this comedian did that. That's very big in this culture. You cannot do that in the culture of comedy, you cannot steal. And I was like, damn, even if I remix it, it's not stealing. It's just. It's the same idea. But he said, no. Cause you went online and said that you were going to steal the joke. And I did do that. So I was like, I just didn't know the rules of it. But that was the first and the last time I'd ever done something like that. And I didn't realize why she was so mad. Like, damn, just write another joke or tell it better than me and I give it back to you. You know what I mean? But I'm like, nah, this is really an art. There's really rules to this thing. You know, you can't do that. And so, yeah, I mean, I guess.

[Shannon Sharpe]

People look at it like a song.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you say, if I sang the song and then you come behind it and sing it, we'll write a better song. No, bro, you stole my song.

[Jess Hilarious]

You stole my stuff, man. And, no, you got to give it back. It ain't yours. So, yeah. I do not steal jokes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

And that is it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Jess Hilarious]

I am on stage when I headline. Hour and 15 minutes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hour and 15 minutes. So tell me the process. So say you doing you do week Thursday, Friday, maybe. You got two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, blah, blah, blah. Okay. And you're gonna be on the road for, let's say, six weeks.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you go about writing a set that's gonna be able to stand the test of time for that, six weeks and you probably gonna be on stage 25 to 30 times.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. So see, I don't really write jokes out because I found that when I do that, I sound very rehearsed. So what I do is I have bullets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

And I have a writer session every week with my brother, the one who opens up for me, my teacher, Desi Alexander. And we just bounce off of each other, you know, And I don't. Yeah, I don't really like to write. Really, you know. Mm. Mm. I have 30 minute set crafted for when I do 30 minutes. Then I have a 20 minute set when I do features on other shows. Like when I open up for Bill Bellamy and Bruce Bruce and all those people. You know, things like that. DL, Hugh and Ricky Smiley and all that. But I. Yeah, I don't really write. It's all up in here. I just have bullets. And that's how that goes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of people and they pulled me to the side to say, shannon, there's a lot. Look, it wasn't so much of what Kat said is that he pulled a curtain back and allowed people to see something that we've been trying to keep secret. And so I think that's really. Look, he called out a lot of people, a lot of prominent powerful people. But it was more so that what he allowed people to see.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I don't think the general consensus is, damn. Is that kind of animosity and vitriol in the comedic community.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. He was letting me know things I didn't know either. Like watching it. I'm like, dang, I didn't know that. You know what I mean? But those were different times. And you know, it's better now, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It'S hard for you to know. Cause you don't really get down with anybody. So you do your own thing and you out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Nope. Yep. I know some comics will get mad at you for doing shows with people that they got beef with and so they won't put you on the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what I'm supposed to do.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not even. Unless you are me or somebody. And you can just do shows on your own. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you kind of got. You gotta play the game. And that's so weird to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't strike me as somebody that like to play games.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hell no. Not no game. Not ever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ever got into it with comedian?

[Jess Hilarious]

Have I ever gotten to it with a comedian?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

I got into it with a comedian about what you know, go fish through them cards. I know you got some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, we ain't got it in here.

[Jess Hilarious]

You be knowing stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know nothing, Jess. I mean, I just. I just, you know, I thought you was gonna be, you know, like, you know, we just.

[Jess Hilarious]

You thought I was gonna be like, come up here with something to say and be like, look this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just saying. I'm just asking you, what was it about?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, well, Corey Holcomb, that is a comedian that I got into it with. I did a photo shoot with my son and it went viral. I was naked. My son was not. My son had on Jordans. Only thing I had on was Jordans and socks. And he was covering me. He was covering my boobs, my private area, and he had on clothes. And I did the shoot. I posted it. It goes viral. The next morning, I wake up to Corey Holcomb calling me a whore. And, you know, a black whore and saying that my son would be gay. And this is why a lot of our young black men are gay, because of black whores like Jess. Hilarious and things like that. And he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you know him?

[Jess Hilarious]

I do not know. I still have not got the chance to see this man. That was the reason why I went to Wild N Out to see this man and you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he wasn't there that day.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I made the show. But I'm like, thank you, Nick. But where's. Where's Corey? He's like, no, he ain't here. So why you? Cause you know why I'm coming up here, Nick. Cause that's why you reached out to me. Cause I flamed him. I was roasting him back to back, three days straight. And that's why you reached out, Nick, you knew I wanted to see him. He said no, but you got on the show. Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You let it go now.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hell no, I ain't let it go. No, I didn't let it go. I mean, it wasn't even so much about him talking about me. You don't say that kind of thing about somebody, child. You know what I mean? You just don't say stuff like that, you know? But then I realized he don't have a relationship with him. You know what I mean? He doesn't have relationship with his kids. He told one of his kids, f them, he'll make another one, you know, so it's. You know, and the way he talks about his family, you know, something like her. He has other issues, obviously, you know, very dirty person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tell me what's the audition process, like.

[Jess Hilarious]

For Wild N Out, they. Well, how it was for me, I don't know how it's changed, but. Well, I don't even think it's gonna be no more Wild N now, but really did that. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened?

[Jess Hilarious]

Cause they suing Nick and Zeus Network, Viacom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they want it back, huh?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, well, apparently they ain't take it. Nick didn't take it well. Well, yeah, that's what they saying. They saying that he took the whole idea and the whole concept of wilding out and took it over to Zeus with Lamel and them over there, so. Oh, that's what they saying. So ain't no Wild N Out now, I don't think. But. But either way, the question that you had asked me refreshed my mind again. Cause now I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you audition? How do you audition for a while or not? And then how do you make the.

[Jess Hilarious]

Show okay back when. Cause I don't know how it's changed, but back then you go. They'll have it at a hotel, like in one of the banquet halls or whatever. And then you go in there, and then Nick wants you to joke on the spot, you know, go back and forth with somebody or like a rap battle. Cause the thing is wild style. Everybody's favorite thing is wild style. It wasn't my favorite thing. Cause I ain't just thinking of Valentine. That girl can rap for days and days. I'm talking about. But they'll have you do that. They'll give you a topic and you just spit jokes on it. You know what I mean? And then you'll just go back and forth with somebody, like cracking on them, joking and roasting and stuff. And then if they like you enough, he'll tell you, okay, yeah, I got you. You're on it. Or we'll call you back. Something like that. See, he already knew what I was capable of. That's why he reached out anyway, so I didn't have to go through a second step, you know, I just got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's your favorite moment of the show? Do you get upset? Cause some. Hey, man, they be going in hard some. Jess. Hey, I. Hey, I might have a swag on somebody.

[Jess Hilarious]

Uhhuh. Oh, trust me, people want. People have. Guests have canceled. Guests have sent in stuff like, look, I'mma come up there, but y'all can't talk about this and this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And y'all talk about this, this, this.

[Jess Hilarious]

And 85 south, which is Carl, D.C. and Chico. They be like, well, why you coming up here? Cause you already know we don't go by that we don't play, man. Come on now. And then Nick let us do what we want on the show. It's like whatever. We joke. Nick, you know, Nick is always the butt of the joke. So it's like whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Except Chico. Chico got him good, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

Ooh. Them three stay on Nick. Like, oh, my God. I don't even know how I would have been putting them off my show. I don't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you'd have to. Yeah, yeah, bye.

[Jess Hilarious]

But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love them, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's your favorite? Who's your favorite Wild Nye guest.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. The favorite Wild N Out guest or cast member Guest. Guest. Hmm. I ain't gonna lie. I don't got no favorite Wild N Out guest. I ain't gonna hold you. The best episode that I watched, though, I ain't gonna lie, was the one with T Pain and the one with Chance the Rapper. I wasn't there. I was off filming other things. But yeah, I can't really say Wendy Williams. I ain't gonna lie. I got to meet Wendy Williams and she knew who I was and I roasted her. She talked about me on her show after that, shortly after she came. But Wendy Williams was very fun. She was very fun. She came, she played the game. She wasn't scared of nobody. She know how she is. So she said, all right, y'all, bring it on. I love that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How is Nick as a boss?

[Jess Hilarious]

Nick is good, God fearing man. He prays before every show. He's really, really a good dude. I will always and forever respect Nick for this. So I did two seasons of Wild'n out, right? And then I got casted for the sitcom Rel on Fox, right? And I was gonna be series lead. And so that meant that I had to move to LA and I couldn't show shoot Wild N Out. And there was a season of that coming up. And so I went and I talked to Nick. I said, nick, there's this show I want to do, season, whatever it was of Wild N Out. But I got casted, you know, to do Rel. And he said, yo, go. What are you talking about? This will always be your home. Whenever you want to come back or even if you don't, whatever. You always got a place on this show. Wow, that made me cry, dog. That was. That. That was dope. He was like, yo, I. I see more for you. I see this for you. I saw this for. Go ahead and you just come back when you're done. Like Wild and I was gonna be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Here till it ain't in private. You. You rag on Rick, Nick, about all.

[Jess Hilarious]

Them kids in private. In public, I'd be like, damn, come on now, man. Yeah. I just felt like. I don't know. In my opinion, I felt like that marriage messed that man up, and now he's overcompensating for something he couldn't compensate for. That's just what it is. You know, he may get angry at that. It wouldn't be the first time Nick got mad at me about a comment, but, you know, I just. I don't know. And not to say that he's just making kids for the fun of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But seems like he's making kids for.

[Jess Hilarious]

The fun of it, you know, that's what it seems like. But I know he loves all of his children dearly, you know, but, yeah, I'm just like, goddamn, you're purposely doing this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Purposely doing this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you blame him or the lady that's allowing him to know he's purposely.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. Well, I would honestly say it would have to be on the woman. Right. Because it's your body. He ain't the one having the kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Men can't have kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm gonna say it for the people in the back. Men can't have kids. So, you know, it's the women when you make that decision.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe the first two, they didn't know.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah. Come on, now. And then the one that's brewing right now, probably, if it is one. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. But we never know. Cause ever since they said elon Musk got 13, now Meek Mill and Nick and all of them, they like, oh, no, we can't. We must.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Elon Musk. Elon Musk is worth 430 billion.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's why I keep trying to tell these.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a different.

[Jess Hilarious]

Cause one thing niggas gonna do is nig. And I keep telling him, y'all can't nig with him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

You can't do that. Yeah. And for Meek Mill to say, yo, I can't let Elon Musk have more baby mothers than me. Sorry, you're looking at it wrong. Elon Musk made, what, $177 billion in the last 30 days?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

What your mindset should be is, I can't let this man. How did. This man is rich. I need to get on that. But you talk your Mind is so in the bottom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You thinking about babies?

[Jess Hilarious]

What are you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This man thinking about dollars.

[Jess Hilarious]

Exactly. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you said Nick is suing Viacom. He's suing Viacom is suing him.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, I said that. That's. That was in the headlines right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Over the Bad versus Wild show.

[Jess Hilarious]

Bad versus Wild and Zeus. It ain't only Nick is Zeus Network.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

What about Drake? This, this Drake suing Universal about what transpired with him and Kendrick over this? I mean, this might be the greatest diss song ever.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, no, it is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought with no Vaseline, I thought I hit him up. I thought Ether Sheatha with Remy Ma, when she went, I was like, hold on. But this five Grammys, I mean, and he headlined the super bowl and number one on the charts again.

[Jess Hilarious]

Why wouldn't he perform that song? What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got to.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, you got to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now that's like your best joke and you're not gonna tell it.

[Jess Hilarious]

What you mean I ain't gonna tell it on my special. What, please.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I'm getting that one.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yup. I don't care who it make mad. It is what it is now. Cause there's like a double sided thing with that now. While rap is rap, there are no rules. Yeah, you hit below the belt. Kendrick just went to hell with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, so that's how I am, Jess.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you go low. I ain't going low. I'm going to hell.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep, that's right. I love you, Michelle Obama, but nah, we gonna have to take it down there. Yeah, I. And I get it. But I will say Drake does have a valid argument when it comes to losing brands over such an accusation. Like, you know, the pedophile thing and you saying that, you know, I like little girls and you know what I mean, it's just. And that surely could cost you some business, you know, some money, sponsors and endorsements and all of that type of stuff. You know, going as far as suing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Universal, y'all publicly, because these are people, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

And these are the people that help you where you are and that gives you the tricks of the trade and. Cause some of your songs, I don't know how the hell they made it to number one. Yeah, like, what's the Tootsie Slide? Yeah, I don't. And that went number one. So now you know whether, you know, they use those tricks of the trade for Kendrick. Whether they did that or not, you once benefited from that. Correct. You know, so that's the problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The same thing you had a problem with, helped you get to where you got.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Now you're gonna turn around and sue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

So I think he's stepping into something that he probably would regret later.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. You think he's lost business because of the pedo accusations?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, I do. I really, really do. And I honestly think that's why he's been also just, like, quiet as well. And then going to all these other countries to perform and things where all of that stuff in America ain't really, like, there to bother him as much in Australia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Ain't nobody gonna be, you know, people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because people, like. It's just words. I don't like people playing my name, Jen.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And like you said, maybe that accusation has caused them some advertiser sponsors and things of that business opportunities, because there are people playing with my name. And I was just like, you know what? And I had to ask myself, and I went to my agency. I said, look, have I lost any business because of what they're linked? It's like, no. So I let it go. Because if had I had, then I'm gonna have to see some of these people. I'm gonna see so what you own.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's right. That's right. Now, but see, your accusations ain't as bad as the accusations that he. Like when somebody call you a pedophile, right? And then a cert. Then he threw the certified on it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm not just a pedophile. Yeah, I'm a certified pedophile.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got papers and everything. What you know? Cause you. When you're certified, you got papers.

[Jess Hilarious]

You damn right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, no school district. Can't stay up. Stay here. Can't stay there. You need to check in.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's right. So that's like, you say that if I was. And if I was tied to any business with Drake, I would be looking like, all right, well, what's up? What's going on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they say, well, you talked about that, man. Family. You say the child ain't his. So you said, hey, if you go low, we going to hell.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, but that ain't got no weight up against those rumors. I mean, that accusation. So I get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess it was situation just where you step on my toe and somebody knock you out.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're like, bro, you have to do it like that.

[Jess Hilarious]

You can say, right? You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause Kendra went all the way off and.

[Jess Hilarious]

But he did say. He did give a warning and euphoria. He did. He said, all right, I'mma chill out. But you know what I'm saying? He gave the warning like, yo, right. But I ain't going to lie. He ate him up in euphoria even more than not like us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he called Drake kid. I mean, Drake called Kendrick a woman beater. Then Kendrick called Drake a pedophile. I mean, yeah. Was it about. Do you think this initiated about. Did it have anything to do with the women? Because we know guys. We a. We ran. We'll butt heads about a female.

[Jess Hilarious]

I honestly don't think it had anything to do with a woman. I think that's more so like a Drake thing. I think Drake would get mad over a woman before Kendrick would. And I don't know either one of these brothers, but knowing what I. What we've all seen and how we know Drake is a very emotional person. Kendrick is a very healed person. Like, he rap like he is in therapy currently.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean? And he goes deep with things. I think that. That. I don't think it's about a woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His past due.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, he rapping for Ancestors and everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, once upon a time, we was like, oh, Lord, you know, so. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it was over a woman. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about DJ Akademiks taking shots at you while seemingly supporting Drake? Do you know him? Have you ever met him?

[Jess Hilarious]

I ain't never met his fat ass in my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Never. I never met him in my life and I never will because he's always in the basement, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cheers.

[Jess Hilarious]

Always in the basement, child. I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why, why, why people. Why, why people come for us?

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't. I don't know, Shannon. You know, I guess because we're very confident people. People love to see you win. Until you win, you win. You know what I mean? They love. They. They want you. They want you to be. Be cocky. No, they want you to win, but they don't want you to be cocky with it. They don't want you to celebrate yourself. They put a ceiling. People will put a ceiling on you. Ain't no ceiling over here. I'm going straight up. I don't care how long it takes me to get there. I'm not gonna play no games. I'm not gonna cut no corners. You know what I mean? Unless it's all legitimate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

But people put a ceiling on you, and I think that's the problem. People don't wanna see you winning till you surpass what winning to them look like, you know? And then now. Now it's a problem. Oh, she need to calm down or. Oh, he need to calm down, like. No, don't get above yourself. Well, why, right? Why are you trying to keep me humble?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

What is that? No, why you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? Because the thing is, when I was at Fox and my tournament and I got ended up Let go. People like, man, Unc, they did you wrong. Yada, yada, yada. Then I start winning. ESPN picked me up. I'm on a bigger platform. That's right, my podcast. I start another podcast and it goes. And so now everybody got a problem. I'm the same Shannon. I was the same Shannon that y'all loved when I supported Colin Kaepernick. I was the same Shannon that, when things transpired, that I spoke positive about my people. Ain't nothing changed. I'm just winning a little more. And now it's a problem.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't get that about us.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because they put a ceiling on you. You weren't supposed to do all of that. You weren't supposed to. You were supposed to just fall and do what they had in their mind for you to do. But you surpassed a lot of people's expectations.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you see negative comments about Jess.

[Jess Hilarious]

Uh huh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you. What's. What's the first thing that goes through your mind?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm gonna get theirs. But then it's. But then it's like, I am reformed. I have come so much further than that. And my growth in that is just like, look, you can't beat everybody. You can't respond to everybody. You can't win them all. Listen, it's like, whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't go to war with everybody.

[Jess Hilarious]

You can't go to war with everybody. No, you can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you'll be thinking, like, I'm gonna get em.

[Jess Hilarious]

I do. Yeah. Because listen, if a comment gets you crazy, I like to go to your page and scroll and don't have it public. And I can scroll down and look at you and look your parents and see who made you and see who you look like. And you talk crazy like that. Look like your dad. I'mma tell you. Yeah, yeah. Mm. So yeah, I don't talk about nobody kids, though. But yeah, don't try me. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You never talk. Kids are always gonna be off.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I believe once you talk about somebody, kids, they can say anything to you. It don't matter. It don't matter. Don't talk about nobody's children, y'all. And you can say anything back. I don't care what it is. You say whatever you can to hit below. Somebody talk about your children. Children are innocent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talked about this a little earlier. The TV show with Lil Rel on Fox with Sinbad. So tell me a little bit about it.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was amazing. It was amazing working with Sinbad. Like, he dropped so many yes. He dropped so many gems. That was the person. Cause I'm trying to sit here and think. When you asked me a little bit earlier. Earlier. Anybody ever give you any advice? Sinbad. But it wasn't for standup. It was just like in general life. Yeah. But he is a comedian that did give me advice on that set. It was nice. It was amazing working. That was the first time I had ever been a part of a big production like that. They treated me well. Money was great. Money great. Especially coming from Wild or not. Yes. I was like, okay, Fox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay. All right. I got my own parking spot. I got, you know, get money. I get money to eat and all types of stuff. It's. Listen, Fox, they treat their people well, so. Yes. But it was amazing. And then Rel had a different OG come every single episode. So he. That. That's what was unique about his show. So. So Florence from the Jeffersons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

Marla Gates. Yes. Oh, Marla Gitt. She was there. She was amazing. Then he had Leon. Leon ain't got no last name. Leon is. We know. Leon the Temptation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's just Leon. Yep. Leon. He was there. And Leon's still fine, too. But it just a series of OGs and just like people before our time who was still like their season, but they are like vets, and they came through and they showed up for him, you know, for that first season. And although the show was canceled. Yeah. You ain't had to say it. I was gonna say it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn. He made sure it got canceled real quick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but I wanted to ask. I mean, after 12 episodes, it got canceled. So how did that make you feel? I mean, did you think you were gonna get picked up for a season two?

[Jess Hilarious]

I did. I did. I honestly. Honestly, I did. I thought we were going to get picked up. While I felt like the writing could have been better and I felt like it could have depict us more, it was a lot of people pleasing, happening, because, hmm. You really gotta be careful how you move in terms of making a project based on a culture like, based on our culture, you know, it's going on Fox. You know what I mean? And at first, I wasn't even gonna be casted because they thought that I was too green for it and those terms. She has never done this before, so we don't. Basically, we don't trust that she will be a great commodity for the show. But Rel picked me and also Carmichael. Jarrel. Carmichael picked me, fought for me to be in there along with Rel. As well. But it was just a lot of things that we didn't resonate with that they wanted to change the script to. And Rel would push back and Gerard would push back and, you know, but I just think. I just think you think they should.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have been a little bit more malleable, more flexible.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, it just could have been. And I think that's what we were missing on the show. But, you know, you learn. And it was Rel's first show, and I think, honestly, it was even too early for him to have a show of his own.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned that those TV checks, they.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hit different, especially over there at Fox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had spent a couple of them checks already expecting a new season.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, I still got a lot of money from Fox.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, I still do. I still get money from Wild N Out. They always Send me like $9.88 checks every now and then. You know, I can use that. I use that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go what?

[Jess Hilarious]

Go to Chipotle, get a couple apple juices. So, you know something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. What is something that you wish you knew before you got into the TV business?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hmm. Something that I wish I knew before I got into the TV business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I think if you were to do another TV show, you would be even more prepared than you were with that one. Because, you know things that you didn't know when you did that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I honestly. I honestly don't wish I knew anything before I would literally do this all over again. I would, I would. I would. As it relates to people, though, I wish I knew certain agendas or the agendas of certain people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

That. That claims, you know, to be so close to me. Oh, I love you. You like family. You know what I mean? I wish I knew the agendas of certain people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know? Yeah. Which is why I don't hang out with people in the industry. I don't like to receive advice from everybody. I don't even like everybody praying for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they praying, but not for the good, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's right. So I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so. But, you know, I pray for you. Don't.

[Jess Hilarious]

Please don't. Why you do that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Please don't. Because I already know.

[Jess Hilarious]

What did God say? God should have told you. Look, she don't want you. She told me, don't be accepting prayers from you for her. So, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lil Rail is really L I L rail now?

[Jess Hilarious]

No. Oh, hell yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why everybody believe that man on tv?

[Jess Hilarious]

He need to put the T. The two T's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

In the name, not just Lil, it's Lil Rel now. He's literally Lil Rel now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I had him on. He thin. He thin. Thin.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jess, people think he on that. Zip it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. And he said he's not well, he got that package. He said. What package? What package is that? It's on the card.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, when black people, you lose a little weight. Black people.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you can't lose no weight around no black person.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know. You damn right. And that's in any city. I ain't gonna say that's. Growing up in Baltimore City. In any city where it's black people. You getting sick, what's going on? Like, damn. You can't ever lose weight on no black people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a jail membership. I just lost three pounds.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's it. I'm on crack. Like, all right, we lose weight, you know, but why we like that, Rick?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why we like that, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

That's how we grew up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

A drastic change. Uh huh. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Something going on.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yup. And if you big, I mean, if you small and you blow up, you on depo. That's what they say for the women. Oh, she must have got that Dep Rivera shot that birth control.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yup.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, but I don't know. He said that he wasn't. We had him up at Breakfast Club. He totally turned down the rumors of being on Ozempic and he said he's working out and he said he's the happiest he's ever been in his life, you know, because I knew he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Supposed to get married. Cause when he came on us, he was supposed to get married.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, he's married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's married.

[Jess Hilarious]

I believe he is married. I don't. No, no, no. He might be. Cause he refers to her as his wife. So they may have gotten married already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The bbl. Do you think Hollywood, is this what women just want to do or there's a pressure, a societal pressure to do this?

[Jess Hilarious]

I think, I think a lot of people are not happy with their bodies. And now that there is a way that you can change that, you know, and at first it really wasn't affordable to a lot of people, but now it is. You can put. You can make payments on, you know, your surgery and everything. And I used to joke about it, but it's like, you know, what if there is something seriously wrong with you, to you, and now you have all of these resources to fix it, you know, why not? Go ahead. I just. I just wish women would do it in moderation. Like all these repeat offenders. I know girls that go and get lipo twice a year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Like, they, you know, I ain't working out what I look like working out. I can call Dr. Such. Yeah, you can also die too, dummy. Like, I don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just because you've done this before, you don't ever have that thought in your mind that this may be the time I don't wake up. This may be. They may hit an artery or a nerve or something in a vein, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing is, I mean, some of them. It's just too ridiculous.

[Jess Hilarious]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it should be subtle. Look, if you want to do it, that's your body. Let it be subtle. But when it's looking, I'm like. And everybody like, exactly. Come on now.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you can't. You can't be £150 with a 55. A 50 pound booty.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know. Yeah, yeah. Or when you. Or when you already start off £300 and then you go get lipo, you get the fat sucked out the middle part. And then now it's. I don't know, it looked like one of the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They want to be like they have these little teeny tiny weights.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on now.

[Jess Hilarious]

You big up here and then you big down there, and it's just not proportioned right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Even if you got a big butt, your back can't be bored of the body and think it's sexy.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you do.

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, would I do it? Yeah, I wouldn't do it again. I've actually had a fat transfer and I've had my boobs. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I don't really think. I don't really. People don't really look at boobs like that as something drastic. But when they get.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, yeah, not exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When they get bbls and they keep going back and getting fillers and all that other stuff.

[Jess Hilarious]

Come on now. I got my BBL back when it was called a fat transfer. It wasn't called a bbl. Cause I didn't get my butt lifted. That's why I said, I don't know why they call it a Brazilian butt lift. It was called a fat transfer before, and I got it done in Atlanta. And. And it was fine. But when I went, my doctor had told me, like, look, yo, you don't got enough fat to be. I said, listen, whatever you got, pull it out. I'm like Gina Waters. I Got a lot of muscle on my sides. I've never had hips. Give me hips, please. And he was like, would you have hip dip? Yeah, like, I would. Like, it would be dented in. And I'm like, yo, I'm tired of looking strong. Like, I just, you know, I want some type.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want some curve.

[Jess Hilarious]

And so he said, all right, we gonna fill it out as much as we can, but one thing you need to know about fat. When you take it out and all the fluid drain from it, it's not what it looks like. So you're gonna. The swelling's gonna go down. It's probably gonna look the same. I said, do it anyway. And so that's why people don't believe that I did get a bbl, because it doesn't really look like it, but I think I got one of the most natural looking surgeries ever. Doctor who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But your sister called you out for that, huh?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, that hu. Heffer tried me real bad. Cause she got fired.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you tell her?

[Jess Hilarious]

Cause she. My God, sister. I've been knowing this girl since I was 2 years old. So why she tell her? Cause I got. I fired her. She was working for me. She was my driver. Listen, I didn't even have a job opportunity for her. I created a job for this girl, right? And, oh, my God, it hurt me so bad that she did that. And she claimed it hurt her so bad because I fired her. And yeah, she had children, and you know what she do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So why did you fire.

[Jess Hilarious]

I fired her because she wasn't doing her damn job. Listen, this girl, we was on the road, right? And this girl stole my wig and my car to go do something, go meet. I don't know if it was to meet a guy or something. And we in another city. Who. You know, how you know somebody down here in Florida? And why would you take my wig? I supposed to wear it on stage to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can still wear it that night. But she was gonna use it that night.

[Jess Hilarious]

I sure did wear it on stage that night when she gave it back. But she gonna come in there with some flowers and you took my car. And then the security I had at the time, he liked her too, so he ain't even tell me until I woke up like, oh, Shay was supposed to been back. She went to go get something for you the whole time. No, she went to get something for her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She got it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And she probably had the wig on, too.

[Jess Hilarious]

She did. I get back my wig all smelly. I'm like, what's going on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Wore a sex wig. I don't understand.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, sex. Somebody else, sex wig. I'm like, yo, I gave it a wig after the show. Look. And you're fired. So that's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how hard is it to work with family?

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you hear a lot. Some people say it's okay. Some people say, no family and friends. When it comes to business, when it comes to work, relationship, leave it alone. Leave it alone.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, sometimes it can work, Shane. Sometimes it can, but oftentimes it will not. And then sometimes it starts off great and it can go for years and years and years. And then a person, you'll see the jealousy. You'll see because now they paying attention to your pockets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. So what you're going to do, what you could do for them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Jess Hilarious]

You know, and how you can. And then sometimes people want to be you and you don't even realize that. You know what I mean? And so they become, at first, it feels like a weird obsession until they get upset with you about something and then they start telling you they are the reason that you are where you are. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't tell not one joke.

[Jess Hilarious]

Mm, mm. Now you ain't even help, right? None of this. None of this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't get up every morning and get on the show.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, you. You don't. You're not flying back and forth and you're not being away from your damn kids, and you're not having to deal with controversy at the. And trying to figure out, like, how you can keep this ship moving without me. None of y'all eat. And I need y'all to know that. And I don't even like throwing that out there like that. But that's. That. That's me right there. You know, I gave y'all jobs and positions and y'all. I just did whatever with it. Taking advantage. And I'm a really, really kind hearted person. I'm not a pushover. But I love very hard, and I had to. But people take kindness for weakness. Yes. And I had to make some very tough decisions. Firing family and actually not speaking to a few of them now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, man. People still. And people. Or just. Yeah, they'll sabotage you if they feel like they ain't getting enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you were the first lady of bmf. How was that experience?

[Jess Hilarious]

Working with Vivica Fox was amazing. I love her. I love her, love her. She checks on me. She hits me up. She checked on me even after doing the production. Doing. After doing the movie with her. So. Yeah, that was amazing. That was good doing that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you had a little. You and little Meech had a little issue y'all resolved.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I think he got other stuff to do now. Like he got some other resolving he needs to do at this point. But he had came to Wild N Out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

And he's a little busty, you know, and he. You know, I. That's all I said, you know, But I didn't say it first. I ain't even going there. Hey, y'all little meets Musty. It was somebody else, I think from another city. No, I co signed it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right. I did smell that one time to. He was up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cuz, if I. If you get apartment and you can't get it and I co sign it, you don't pay for it. Who they gonna hit up?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah. So they. But it was one of his fans who he did a club hosting. And she had went online and she had said, lord, me stank. And then we reported it up at the Breakfast Club. And I said, well, he did have a little stitch when he came up at Wild N Out, you know, it wasn't nothing too crazy. Could have been out the night before and just didn't have time to hit the showers, you know. But he got up, you know, because he was with Summer Walker. Yeah, they got. He need. You need to tell him they got wipes, but I got the wipes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa. So Summer Walker came to his defense and came at you?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, man. She was like. She ain't like, come at me crazy, but, you know, when Summer be in love, she be in love. And she don't. It don't care what. It don't matter what them guys do. She gonna go back, go to bat for them guys, right now she had came out and she was just like, this little girl want him or something like that. I'm like, little girl, baby. Excuse me, but around my birthday, right? This is ciaa weekend. This was two years ago, I had a birthday party and Lil Meech was in town for ciaa. He was doing a party right down the street from my birthday party. I DM'd him and said, hey. Cause I wanted some more star power at my party. I said, hey, I don't know what you're doing after your party, but if you want to stop past my birthday party, we do have a section for you or whatever. You know, something like this man screenshotted that and posted it after I said that. He was a little musty, you know, Like I was trying to get with him. And then what I got mad at Summer about was, you so damn dumb. You think that was me trying to get at him? If I was Summer, I'd have been like, no, babe, this ain't nothing to use. This is not like you can't post this. If you gonna come at a come. But she ain't trying to get with you here. Like, come on, let just. Let's just use your. Your mind as a woman or your heart as a woman. Like, you know, I wasn't trying to get with that little boy. He looked like Rob Schneider. You know, the guy that dudes Bigelow male gigolo dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would she call you a lot of names and say you you?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, she did. She called me a lot of names. I think she just said this little girl with this something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She called you ugly.

[Jess Hilarious]

She called me ugly?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, they use one chromosome away.

[Jess Hilarious]

I ain't even know she even said that word. She said one chromosome away from what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

These two chromosomes? If you me.

[Jess Hilarious]

She. I'mma pray for her too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm glad you didn't know that.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad that you told me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, let it go.

[Jess Hilarious]

That was years ago, but I had no idea there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let it go.

[Jess Hilarious]

That she tried to call me one of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let it go.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, that. That. That's what he did. He let it go. And. And then she had to move on. And do add to all of that, that cousin wasn't that cousin. That cousin was somebody he was dealing with. So he let your go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, there you go.

[Jess Hilarious]

I can't believe she said that. What's the next question?

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Jess Hilarious]

Right after my daughter was born, my husband and I are having to decide whether or not to get her vaccinated. I definitely felt like the pros far outweighed the cons. The diseases that I am protecting my child against. They're still here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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