Club Shay Shay - K. Michelle Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay: K. Michelle (Part 1)

Podcast Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: K. Michelle
Release Date: May 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, candid episode, Shannon Sharpe sits down with K. Michelle—a Grammy-nominated, Billboard-topping singer, songwriter, reality TV icon, and entrepreneur best known for her unfiltered honesty and boundary-pushing artistry. The conversation traverses her Memphis roots, the complexities of fame, challenges of the music industry, Black culture, cosmetic surgery, relationships, and the nuances of her personal journey.

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Key Topics & Insights

Memphis Roots & Identity

• Cultural Pride and Perception:

  • K. Michelle emphasizes that Memphis’ culture and heart are often overlooked due to negative stereotypes, especially around safety.
  • "[Memphis] allowed me to be like, I don't care if this falls through, then something else will come through. Like there's always a way to get in." – K. Michelle [06:13]
  • She credits her Memphis upbringing with teaching her resilience vital for surviving the tough music industry.

• Essential Memphis Spots:

  • Recommends preparing a list of restaurants—positioning Memphis’ food scene alongside New Orleans.
  • Highlights historic and cultural sites: Beale Street (with a caveat about late nights), National Civil Rights Museum, and legendary clubs.
  • Notes her father is prominent in the Memphis community, further rooting her sense of place and responsibility.

Critique of LeBron’s Comments on Memphis

• LeBron’s Criticism:
  • K. Michelle voices her disappointment in LeBron’s public comments about not liking Memphis, especially regarding hotels and potential removal of the Grizzlies NBA team.
  • "I wish he had sat that one out, because anytime it comes to Memphis, it comes to me, and you know I'm gonna respond." – K. Michelle [17:08]
• Broader Context:
  • Discusses the concept of “Black elites,” and the importance for successful Black figures not to look down on Black spaces or communities still struggling.
  • Shannon provides perspective, noting how athletes’ statements can become targets depending on public sentiment and context.
  • K. Michelle insists disagreement doesn’t negate support, but timing and solidarity matter.

Accent, Stereotypes, and Southern Culture

• K. Michelle details becoming aware of her thick Memphis accent in college, dealing with the stereotype that Southern accents imply lack of intelligence.
  • "I'm just at a point in my career now where I'm super southern and... it is what it is." – K. Michelle [20:56]
• Favorite Memphis slang: "Maine."

The Music Industry’s Dark Side

• Artist Exploitation:
  • K. Michelle likens industry deals to survival situations—artists often sign out of hunger or desperation, then feel exploited when success arrives.
  • Discusses the infamous cycle of unfair contracts and why some artists push back violently or dramatically when denied their due.
  • “Once you start making money, they… try to find ways to get more of it.” – Shannon Sharpe [33:16]
  • K. Michelle herself was banned from the Sony building after confronting executives—a story told with raw humor and defiance [30:54].

Memphis Rappers & Local Scene

• The competitive, sometimes violent dynamic among Memphis rappers is explored—K. Michelle attributes it to a concentration of talent “clawing to get out” of a small but influential city, with Memphis’ sound dominating mainstream hip hop [35:26].

HBCU Experience & Motherhood

• HBCU Life:
  • Both recall the unique joys of attending an HBCU—cultural pride, traditions, and familial community.
• Motherhood Journey:
  • K. Michelle reflects on becoming pregnant in college and choosing to keep her child after previous terminations, with deep honesty about judgement, support, and ambition.
  • “I would have still had my child, still allowed my parents to help me, still graduated, and I would have still been his mother.” [60:43]

Cosmetic Surgery & Body Image

• Open Reflection:
  • K. Michelle reveals the dangers and regrets of illegal silicone injections—a choice influenced by entertainment world aesthetics and peer influence.
  • “I’ve done enough surgery and designing on myself, I would never do it to a child.” – K. Michelle [69:07]
  • She spends over $500,000 on corrective surgeries, emphasizing the medical, emotional, and social toll [75:02].
• Public Scrutiny:
  • Candid about receiving constant criticism and speculation about her appearance, including false rumors about skin bleaching.
  • “I’m sitting up here telling you that I done chopped my ass off, I done injected the ass, I done blew it back up, I done deflated… I done told you everything…” [88:01]
• Surgery & Social Pressures:
  • Challenges the narrative that women’s choices are entirely about men, but admits social trends shape perceptions of beauty.

Relationships, Marriage, and Sexual Openness

• Marriage Dynamic:
  • K. Michelle shares the unique, trusting, and open relationship she has with her husband—her junior/high school sweetheart.
  • On infidelity: “No one should tell me something about you I don’t already know… it’s about team.” [98:30]
• Sexual Openness:
  • Open discussion of fantasies, fidelity boundaries, and her past with women.
  • Asserts independence: “If I want to watch, I want to watch. If I want to experience, I should be able to.” [101:14]
• Money, Power & Gender:
  • Pushes back on the idea of dating “down”—insisting on equality and agency, especially for successful women.
  • "You can't go be cheating and I got the same money you got." [112:21]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Memphis’ Impact:
  "If I wasn't from Memphis, I wouldn't be able to deal with being in the industry." – K. Michelle [05:30]
• On giving up societal pressure:
  "I'm just to the point at 43, where I'll get up and say it's all good... Y'all gonna get this." – K. Michelle [81:15]
• On fighting exploitation: "This is our first time getting to see someone saying, Oh, I'm not laying down, taking it right. If that's what happened, we don't have a clue... I'm taking my talent. I'm taking care of my family. I don't care by any means necessary. I'm going to eat right.” – K. Michelle [35:05]
• On openness and control:
  "I've always told the worst of me before anyone got to... No one will hold anything over my head." – K. Michelle [64:27]
• On her sexuality:
  "I've always talked about it... I like what I like, and if I have to pick a woman, she is going to be... Oh my God. Chocolate." [96:13]
• Rare honesty about cosmetic surgery:
  "If they'd had somebody like me to say, girl, leave that alone... But I still woulda did it, that's the honest bad truth." [71:09]
• On enduring public scrutiny:
  "You know what it's like to wake up every morning and people be like, oh, she got a new face today. No, really, I don't. Because I've given you and I've tried to help women." [82:21]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Intro & Opening Banter: 00:00 – 01:45
• Accolades & Background (Memphis): 01:59 – 07:00
• LeBron/Black Elites & Memphis Critique: 09:36 – 17:47
• Accent & Stereotypes: 19:03 – 21:16
• Memphis Music Industry & Contracts: 21:22 – 35:05
• On Memphis Rapper Feuds & Talent: 35:26 – 38:48
• HBCU & Early Motherhood: 44:15 – 54:31
• Surrogacy & Fertility Journey: 61:00 – 64:27
• Cosmetic Surgery & Recovery: 67:09 – 77:26
• Body Image, Public Perception & Social Trends: 79:24 – 84:02
• Skin Bleaching Rumors & Black Identity: 86:41 – 89:59
• On Relationships, Openness & Sexuality: 95:03 – 113:24

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Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay showcases K. Michelle at her most sincere, raw, and reflective. She and Shannon Sharpe navigate heavy, often taboo topics—from industry exploitation, Black cultural pride, and sexuality, to the real cost of cosmetic surgery and gendered double standards in dating, all delivered with unapologetic candor and Southern wit.

Listeners are given rare insight into K. Michelle’s unfiltered perspective, making this conversation both a celebration of resilience and a challenge to societal norms—perfect for anyone seeking real talk about making it through the fire and coming out stronger.

End of Part 1 – Continue with Part 2 for more of K. Michelle’s story.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on. Time out. Let me get a 20 second timeout. You mean to tell me you could watch your man?

[K. Michelle]

I have. Several times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like? You get up on that?

[K. Michelle]

Maybe. It's weird, but I kind of like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think he could handle watching somebody be with you?

[K. Michelle]

Intimately, I would hope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm Hercules. Hercules. Hercules.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. Hercules.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh no, no, no. Ain't nobody finna be thanosing my old lady. I can watch you.

[K. Michelle]

For women to allow you all to have threesomes and. And go do things, but that's okay. But you can't allow the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[K. Michelle]

Why? Just say why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Here.

[K. Michelle]

All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price Wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's

[Shannon Sharpe]

why all my life I been grinding all my life Look.

[K. Michelle]

All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, won a slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shay Shay. Stopping by for conversation and a drink today is a multi thread. She's a platinum selling singer, an award winning songwriter, a trained pianist, a skilled guitarist, a powerhouse vocalist, a boundary pushing artist, an accomplished composer and a musician. She's released five consecutive Billboard chart topping albums. A versatile reality TV superstar, an entrepreneur, a restaurateur, an actress, an entertainer with a larger than life personality. She's undeniably super star powered and she's a straight shooter, a fan favorite who's built a worldwide audience. A mother, a wife and she's here today on Club Shay Shay, Memphis own K. Michelle. How you doing? How did I do it? Did I do you write the intro?

[K. Michelle]

I feel good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, thank you very much.

[K. Michelle]

I feel at home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, after I mention all those accolades, let's toast to all the success that you've enjoyed and yet you'll continue to enjoy. This is my cognac shaved by La Portier. Let me know what you think.

[K. Michelle]

Let's see, let's see, let's see. I think it's smooth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like smooth.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And see, you don't get that kick. You don't get that like damn you trying to.

[K. Michelle]

I'm pissed. Yeah, it's just like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Just gonna have a conversation. Nice. You know, you see the backdrop. We got the books going on so we just about to have a nice conversation.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you looking at me like that?

[K. Michelle]

Cause it's so much I want to ask you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And now you get here. You want to ask me questions? Okay. During the interview, during the conversation, you'll be allowed to ask me some questions. Okay?

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

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[K. Michelle]

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[K. Michelle]

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[Akilah Hughes]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Akilah Hughes]

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[K. Michelle]

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[K. Michelle]

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[K. Michelle]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

People get wrong about Memphis.

[K. Michelle]

I think that they take, you know, the culture away from the city.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

I feel like, yes, you know, we're in a dangerous time in Memphis, but when it comes to the heart and the soul and the fight, if I wasn't from Memphis, I wouldn't be able to deal with being in the industry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

There's no way possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how did Memphis prepare you to be able to deal? Because I've had a lot of musicians and entertainers on and tell me how seedy and shady the music industry is. So how did Memphis prepare you to be able to deal and handle that type of environment?

[K. Michelle]

Being a woman in this business and really taking a stand for yourself and saying no. It allowed me to be like, I don't care if this falls through, then something else will come through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Like there's always a way to get in. There's always a door, a window, you know, right the back of the club. You get to the front, you're gonna always keep fighting to do what it is you wanna do. In that city. We couldn't do anything but fight to try to make it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Growing up in Memphis, what did you wanna do? What did you wanna become? So when K Michelle was say like 7, 8, 10 years of age, what did you envision yourself being like? When I'm an adult, this is what I'm gonna be. This is where I'm gon. This is what I'm gonna do.

[K. Michelle]

I always said I was gonna be a country singer. That was my whole thing. It's always been like that for me. I always was gonna do that. And then, you know, graduated from Florida A and M and I got in law school. So I was like, well, I'm gonna be a lawyer. Well maybe I'll be a lawyer. But it just wasn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That wasn't in the car. So that wasn't where your heart was at.

[K. Michelle]

No, I wanted to sing and talk shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when someone says, hey ak, I'm headed to Memphis, Uh huh. What do you tell them? What do they need to do? Because I don't know a whole lot about Memphis. I've had a layover. I mean I flew into Memphis many, many years ago. I flew into Memphis and I rented a, had a driver take me down to Bahailey, Mississippi.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ended up picking up a dog. So I don't know anything about. I know about Beale Street. I know about Graceland. I know about Rendezvous. I know about Charlie Vera. So. But that's about. That's about all I know about Memphis.

[K. Michelle]

So you don't know about the hotel?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. We will talk about the hotel. I don't know. I've never stayed at hotel in Memphis.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. Memphis is way more than their hotel.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

And if you say you were going to Memphis, I would first tell you that you must. You must have your list of restaurants where you're going to eat lined up for you, because we are food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ok?

[K. Michelle]

You know, you have New Orleans. I'm sorry, but then you have Memphis when it comes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Memphis right there with New Orleans. As far as food.

[K. Michelle]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. As far as barbecue, everything. You have that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

You definitely have to do Beale Street. Okay, now, am I telling you to do Beale street, like late at night? I didn't say that. But you have to do Beale Street. You have to do the National Civil Rights Museum.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

Like, that's one thing I'm very proud of. My father is more famous than me in the city of Memphis because he's a professor and he's graduated a lot of African Americans, you know, and he had me work at the National Civil Rights Museum when Martin Luther King was killed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

And I would spend the night there. And, you know, to know that Martin Luther King, you know, took his last breath here and it was always like a thing. And he made sure that I was a tour guide and he would pay me out of his pocket when I was in high school. So you have to go to the Civil Rights Museum. You have to just experience the city. When I say this, I'm gonna say it how it should be said. You have to go to love. You have to do all the clubs in Memphis because it's like, you know, people actually dance in these clubs. People actually feel the music. It's just a lot of culture and soul in that city.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I mean, you told me to stay away from Beale street late at night and now you want me to go clubbing?

[K. Michelle]

No, you can't walk down on Beale street about no 2 o' clock or something in the morning. Like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, there are places. It's not only Beale Street. There are places in Atlanta I wouldn't advise you to walk down. Or New York or Chicago or a lot of other cities that I wouldn't advise you to walk, especially alone at that time of the morning. So.

[K. Michelle]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned something and it Seemed like this is really on your mind, this is on your heart. That you want to talk about is that LeBron talked about Memphis, and you had a quote. You said, trying to pull one of the greatest assets from the predominantly black city has become. You don't like the hotels is insane. It's a much deeper conversation. What is the deeper conversation that need to be had?

[K. Michelle]

Black elites.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Black elites. People do things like. Because you might not have grown up like them or because, you know, you're in this environment, this or that. We have black elites. We have people who have made it, who have made money, who have done this and that, and they do. They look down upon other blacks and other black spaces and places because they may not be in those places anymore. That type of situation and how. It touched me. It was something for me. It just did something for me to watch someone that my son roots for. I love LeBron. I love his wife. I think she's amazing. Like, I love that black love. I love all of that. But to see him standing amongst, you know, other races, speaking so bad about, you know, a city that we're already fighting. So you're gonna take the Grizzlies from us, but leave us with the alarm us. That's what we're gonna do. No, I like the Tesla line. Like, I do. Thank you. But you're gonna leave our city with all this radiation, everything going on, you're gonna leave our city. We don't know what's over there in that warehouse over there with Lalon, but you gonna leave all of that over there, but you gonna take the Grizzlies from them, right? So it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's how you took it. You took it as in, like, he's looking down like, okay, you were once somebody like Memphis. You grew up with a single mom in Akron, Ohio. But I took it as like, look, he said, there are a couple of places that I don't really like playing. And it's like, he said memphis. He said, milwaukee. He said, hell, I don't like going home. And I'm from there. But he.

[K. Michelle]

I mean, after the fact, I don't care. It's what you said at first. You sat there amongst them people, playing your little golf, talking your little mess.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

It's not just him that's trying to. That's saying. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, it hit me in a way, because this has been going on for years, trying to remove the grizzlies. It's not him. It's not Jesse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But then why Did y' all get so upset when he said it?

[K. Michelle]

Because he should have sat that one out. He should have been quiet. When it comes the stage, the state of the black community, we need everything we can in order. You know, I want the little boys to be able to see an actual NBA player. You know what I'm saying? I want them to be able to go and watch that and have that in this city that is so full of violence in different ways that you can go if you aren't directed right, or don't have the mother or father, grandparents praying for you like you. I'm sorry, you're an athlete. People look up to you, Shannon, like they look up to these men in these cities. So we're gonna take these role models out of a place because I get it, you know, I know it's bigger than my thoughts on hotels. I get, you know, y' all do big business and, you know, in the sports industry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

But I have to see it for people. I have to see it as a. As a, you know, girl out of there having a son. I have to watch it for that. And for you to say, you know, oh, the hotels are bad. Okay, yeah, it's deeper than that. People have said this before that the Grizzlies should not be. I get it in Memphis, all of that. But I'm sorry, I'm a Memphian, and I'm just not going. And the people of Memphis have to see something positive, and they deserve to see something positive, and I'm going to fight for it. Look at Penny. Penny is our everything in Memphis. You know, to see Penny be. So I am Memphis. To see him get out there. He out there for Memphis. He treats everybody the same way. We want more of that in the city in order to help the growth of the city. And I know y' all into making money, this and that, but in that particular comment, it was about hotels, right? So that pissed me off. We're fighting for greater things in Memphis. And the fact that you could even stand amongst people and talk about a predominantly black city that needs help. And your B point is about a hotel. Cause you don't wanna stay at the Hyatt. Well, they do have a rooftop view. You could go and look at the. You know, you could go and look outside if you want to, but you only there less than 24 hours. You shouldn't even be commenting. You should just go back to your hometown and pull some stuff from them. You shouldn't be trying to talk about a place that we've had to grow

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

You can go anywhere and not feel comfortable because he is LeBron. I don't think the problem with LeBron, I don't see people saying, you know. And they'll write you off about anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[K. Michelle]

Not writing off LeBron. We can agree to disagree. We can do it publicly. If you speak on something, then I can come back and say how I feel publicly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

True.

[K. Michelle]

But does that mean that I don't support him? And this. This. This man, his black family, what he's done for his son, all of that. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, I wish he had said that one out, because anytime it come to Memphis, it comes to me, and I'm going, you know, I'm gonna respond.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You will respond.

[K. Michelle]

If I saw him today, I'm gonna be like, been room for you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. You know what I'm saying? What you have done thus far for the black community. But I feel like it's a little sensitive right now, but we can agree to disagree. And that's what I mean about not taking away any of his greatness in anything that he's done. But in this situation with a city that is struggling so, you know, so hard, the last thing I want for Memphis is to lose something like that. What they've been trying to do for years, the city can't take another hit, and I'm just defending them not taking a hit, and I think it's needed there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you feel some type of way if they did move to Nashville?

[K. Michelle]

Absolutely, and I love Nashville. But we're not taking. No, I love Nashville. Like, I'm signed to the biggest country label in Nashville. Okay. I just got back from Nashville, what, two days ago. I get it. Everything's there. No taxes. Everybody's leaving.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know why they don't got no taxes in Memphis. It's in Tennessee.

[K. Michelle]

Well, it's so much going on. So much land.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, really? There's so much going on in Nashville, and you can understand why people.

[K. Michelle]

I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you can understand why.

[K. Michelle]

Cause they already have teams. Okay. You gonna let me feel like that? Yeah. It's a lot going on in Nashville. I get it. People love Nashville. Nashvill was voted. They had the top Real estate. Nashville is just moving. It's so many artists, big artists who have left California to come be in Nashville. I get that. But I also know that the people in Nashville don't want y' all to keep coming until they see it. They don't want all of that. And I also know that these are a couple hours apart. And I do know that the Grizzlies mean so much more to the city of Memphis, you know, than another team in Nashville. You get what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I do.

[K. Michelle]

I love Nashville. I'm not taken from Nashville either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That accent. What is it about? How do you. Cause you and Glo. Did you realize that you have. I mean, obviously being in Memphis and people talk like this all the time. Did you realize your accent was so heavy before you left and got out and started talking to people and people like, what did you say?

[K. Michelle]

No, it was bad. Like, it was so bad. When I went to college, I went to Florida A and M. And when I went to college, everybody would be like, talk. Say this. Can you say this? And I would be like, what? And, yeah, I realized when I got to college that I had an accent.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, like, music in Houston and few View. View. So what words gave you a problem? Because, like I said, when you around people that talk, you like I'm talking, like. Because I remember, like, when I. And people like, man, boy, you country. I'm like, hell, I sound like everybody else in the South. What do you mean? I'm country? I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell a difference from when I. Because I'm around people that sound like me to my ear. And then when I got around people that wasn't from the south or wasn't from the heavier colloquial dialect that I had, I was like, okay, I can see what you. I can see what you're saying.

[K. Michelle]

And it's worse, though. It's worse when I'm, like, around. When you around Memphis and, like, just really. But, you know, you do your interviews, you try to, you know, okay, let me clean it up. Let me make sure they understand what I'm saying, because. Okay, you being from the South.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

What they think is our accent and being from the south, that's always a thing. They think we're dumb. They think this and that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We're slow.

[K. Michelle]

Yes, yes. So once you start doing these interviews and you get PR and then they say, well, you know, please don't lay heavy on your accent, because, one, they might not understand what you're saying, and two, you Know the stereotypes that come from that. And I'm just at a point in my career now where I'm super southern and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it is what it is.

[K. Michelle]

It is what it is. And I like being southern.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's your favorite? Memphis Lane, Maine. So are you saying man, like I'm a man or what? You like Maine?

[K. Michelle]

Maine. That was crazy. I like Maine. Why you do that? Like, it's just like we all. We say Maine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We still say everything is Maine. Huh?

[K. Michelle]

Maine, yeah. Uh huh. That would be my favorite one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You work with Gooch Pooh. Iisty's from Memphis.

[K. Michelle]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Allegedly. The situation that went down. What are your thoughts? Because I got. Cause I'm listening to everybody, man. Gucci, know what he was getting into. If you're looking at Gucci from 20 years ago, you're absolutely right. But Gucci, man, became a businessman and you have to move differently. Jay Z became a businessman. Snoop Dogg became a businessman, became a businessman. So as you become a businessman and you do things, you pay taxes, you do things legally, you can't operate with the same street senses or awareness that you do now.

[K. Michelle]

When you become a businessman, you do things of business for people. This has happened for years in the music industry. People will sign you up and take away your whole livelihood. How you take care of your family, okay, they will do it. They've been doing it. This is the first time, well documented time in history where someone said, no, you're not gonna take from me. You're not about to take from me. I have to survive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[K. Michelle]

You know, when people don't have food in the streets, they're in the streets robbing. They're in the streets. This when they don't have opportunities and things like that, they're getting it however they can to take care of their families.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

I don't know anything, you know, I don't know what Pooh Shasti's thought process or any of that, you know, was, but when he was in jail last time I did check in on him, we were in conversations for a record to come out on my country album. I wanted to put Pooh Shiesty in, you know, country. I want to do something. Once again, we come from a city where we have to fight for everything that we have. So to have that much talent. Pooh Shiesty absolutely is a storyteller. He is an amazing writer, you know what I'm saying? And to watch that type of talent and to have to fight so long and be in the trenches and deal and then you think you made it and someone come and take your dream from you. That's happened to me twice. I know what it's like for somebody to sign you up and not give you nothing. Not even. I don't need your hand out. I'm working hard. But you won't even let the world hear my music. Like you're sitting around in your big house doing what you do and I'm around here trying to take care of. Of my family.

[Jonas Brothers]

So, hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We invented a podcast.

[Jonas Brothers]

Well, we didn't invent it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Jonas Brothers]

We just contributed to First People to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special. So how do we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and, well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. Oh, but thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

[Robert Smigel]

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week. My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel helped an acapella band with their between songs banter.

[CJ Toledano]

Where does your group perform?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Isaiah Thomas]

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm C.J.

[CJ Toledano]

toledano. And our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed and finding ways

[CJ Toledano]

to win no matter what.

[Isaiah Thomas]

He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before, and he knows without Luka and Austin Reaves. I gotta manipulate the game.

[CJ Toledano]

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

[Isaiah Thomas]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Julius Randle and then he has to give us everything. He gives us on a night to night basis on offense.

[CJ Toledano]

And when it's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some in playoff history too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Nash would get that thing that man hell get the flying he running up the court licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh yeah. Get your ass up and down the court and you gon get the ball.

[CJ Toledano]

So listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Akilah Hughes]

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it getting a new one put up in its place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard, get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[K. Michelle]

If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'm Akilah Hughes and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

[K. Michelle]

We are more than our bodies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We contain essence. We contain spirit.

[K. Michelle]

How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

[Akilah Hughes]

You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Gerard Adonno]

Hey, I'm Gerard Adonno. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help. On the Internet.

[K. Michelle]

Help. Somebody please.

[Gerard Adonno]

But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope From a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions.

[K. Michelle]

Psych.

[Gerard Adonno]

I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff Rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Egg cream.

[K. Michelle]

Cream of chicken soup.

[Gerard Adonno]

This is help from a hypocrite. The worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to help from hypocrite as part of the Mike Kultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[K. Michelle]

Oh, violence is never the answer. I am gonna say that. But I also know where we're from. I also know what that feels like. Neither party to me is right. Love Gucci. He always cool. He gave me one of my first features of my career. But that young man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question.

[K. Michelle]

Deserves a fair shot in order to. I consider rappers writers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[K. Michelle]

You know what I'm saying? Some of them just suck. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. But some of them are actual writers. His story deserves to be told right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what's up, y'?

[K. Michelle]

All?

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

Well, it still is the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that's a simple question. If he signed the Warner brothers, Universal or Sony and they signed him to the same deal, is he walking up in there and doing. Allegedly. What happened to Gucci? Is he doing that?

[K. Michelle]

I'm banned from the Sony building. So you can't answer me that. I ran up. Yeah, I ran up in the Sony building. Do you understand me? Michael Jackson and DMX are the only ones banned from the Stony building in New York. I ran up in a building.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're a little small self. How you run up in there?

[K. Michelle]

Cause I did. I went right on in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told the you came into Frost pretext. He like, hey, how you doing miss such and such. Hey, such and such.

[K. Michelle]

No, I did. I actually told the lady at the front desk that what I had just said from it was way 106 and park. They didn't care. They submitted the wrong video. Not every. It was just that type of thing. So I ran them. Cause I had questions.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

So they let me in and then they told me the police was on the way. But I got in the building and I ran up to go and confront. Now I didn't go on with no guns. Okay. No nothing. Let's say that they'll be like, k Michelle ran in with guns. No, my mouth was lethal enough. But you can't ask me in Universal, Warner, would it have gone down the same way because the subsidiaries are still through them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

So it's just like running up on them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Like. And either way, I feel like he would have did what he had to do to get his music out. And I just feel like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you feel, you feel. And he felt that Gooch was not putting his music out or giving him what he properly earned through the contract that he has signed.

[K. Michelle]

It always happens.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[K. Michelle]

And it's always his cycle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Of it was done to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I'm gonna do it to somebody.

[K. Michelle]

I'm gonna do it to somebody else. I'm gonna keep going and Keep it going. And some people we are at a day and age now where we are going through a lot in the world, like financially. Everybody is your favorite actress, your favorite singer. Everybody is, you know, clutching they coins. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. Cause we don't know what's about to happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we don't.

[K. Michelle]

So you go take. You're up here living good, and you're taking from the artists that are trying, you know, to make them regardless. A lot of times you just sign a deal. Cause you need some quick money, right? And you think you just made it out, right. And they can say, read, read. Yeah, but when you hungry, I ain't got money for no lawyer to read. When you hungry, I need every dime I can make. I'm not thinking about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? Being in this business is that in any business, what I've learned is that when you sign a contract, you might sign a contract. And I don't think anybody thinks going in like, oh, this guy's going to be. He's going to be the next this or she's going to be the next that. And all of a sudden you might agree to a number. But as soon as the money starts to come and it's more than what they thought, they try to find ways to get more of it. And I'm not telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know firsthand. And I think that has a lot. And I don't know if that's Pooh Shiesty's situation. I don't know if that was your situation. I don't know about. I can just speak to personally. Is that when a situation happens, it's like, okay, we agree to this number, this percent. You get this. I get that. Now all the money starts coming in more than what we envision. Now let me find out a way where I can get more. Because he waking way more than I thought he should be getting. That's too much money.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's too much? Mm. What's too much?

[K. Michelle]

They don't think anything of you. They take a shot. They, you know, on you. And then when life happens as it's supposed to happen, you're supposed to be who you are, or Shiesy's supposed to be who he is. I'm supposed to be who I am. And then, you know, it's shown. And then it's like, dang, I signed a bad deal, this and that. Like, you eating off of me. And I'm barely eating at all, right? And I just think this changes the trajectory of what happens in the music business. Because this is our first time getting to see someone saying, oh, I'm not laying down, taking it right. If that's what happened, we don't have a clue. It probably didn't even happen. But this type of thing, this is our first time getting to see what we think in our head we're seeing is saying, no, I'm taking my talent. I'm taking care of my family. I don't care by any means necessary. I'm going to eat right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is the first time you've heard stories, oh, you know, Suge Knight, back in the day at Death Row, doing stuff like this. But we've never had the federal government, the Department of Justice has gotten involved and say, this is what happened. Like, well, damn, when y' all start worried about what's going. But that's where we are now. What is it about Memphis? What's with the beef? The Memphis rappers and beef, what y' all got going on up there?

[K. Michelle]

I don't want any parts of it. I love them all. I really don't. I just think it's the thing. Like, there's beef in Atlanta. There's all these, you know, beefs. But we're so small, right? And I feel like the sound and people could get mad at me and get me out, but the sound that's going on in hip hop is very Memphis driven. If you listen to all the beats that are on the charts, everything you have three six Mafia samples and everything this city, all we have is this music and this food and this life. So you put all of these people in this small city. They representing this set, this set, this. That my music better. And they all clawing to get out, you know what I'm saying? To get out and make it so. I just feel like right now we're very elevated and highlighted in. In the wrong, wrong reason, in the wrong reasons. You know, instead of focusing on y' all talented, like, I be seeing, like, the new. Like, the new guys coming up, they might DM me and be like, hey, you know, Goat, would you do this? Like, I listen to these guys, music and females, and they're really talented. Like, they really are talented. If the right person would give them a fair shot to go out there, they're gonna outwork everybody. Cause all we know is work and. And trying. So the city right now is getting a lot of other things. But what they should say is that there's a whole Lot of talent and heart there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It used to be a time, Kay, that guys, like, if you came from a city and you made it out and you became something, they looked out for you. They made sure you were straight. They wouldn't do some of the things that we see that's happened to some of our rappers when they go back home. And home I should. Or I feel like if I went back to Glenville, I should feel that should be the safest place in the world for Shannon Sharpe. Because you watched Shannon Sharpe grow up. You know what Shannon Sharp did to get out, and you saw how I interacted with everybody. I never thought I was better. And even when I made it out, I never looked down on anybody. Like, I made it out. You didn't. What is it about when guys go back home more times than not, that is the place that a lot of times they lose their lives.

[K. Michelle]

Look, I'm gonna fight always for my city. But there was a famous line from three six Mafia, and we always say it to each other as Memphians. I'm from the city where they love to hate. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like they're so proud. They're so proud of you. They're not gonna let the rest of the world talk about you. It's like your family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Like, your family can tap you and be like. And say anything about you, but soon as someone say something about you is a problem, I feel like no one. Like, you can represent your city and deal, but you still have people. Think about it. You still got people you went to high school with. You still got people that night they haters. You know what I'm saying? When I go through Memphis, it is for shows and different things. And, you know, when I'm walking, they like, k, we're so proud of you. Like, keep representing. But I'm also not, you know, you're

[Shannon Sharpe]

not naive to the fact that.

[K. Michelle]

I'm not naive to any of it. I know that that love can turn to something tragic immediately. And my movement, you know, in my city has to be what that is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're strategic.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. Mm. Like, you'll never just see me walking around my city.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Like, and that's me. So when we do speak up, LeBron and things like that, I'm like, regardless of where you go, you're LeBron. Like, you're one of the hugest to ever, you know, have a ball in their hand. Like, pause, like, you. You are so. You couldn't go anywhere. So in my city, they've given me the key to the city. Everything. You know what I'm saying? I will do anything, everything for my city. But I'm also gonna make sure that,

[Shannon Sharpe]

you know, you don't have blinders on. You understand what your city.

[K. Michelle]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mentioned you went to. You went to FAMU on a yodeling scholarship.

[K. Michelle]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. I didn't even. I have never, ever heard. I thought that was something they did in Switzerland. They go up in the mountains and they yodel. You actually got a scholarship. How do you get a scholarship for yodeling? Who knew you could yodel?

[K. Michelle]

Cause I always go do something else. And my voice teacher name was Bob Westbrook. He's from Memphis. He trained Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, a lot of the Miss America, okay? So when my mama took me in there to do voice lessons, he said she had this big voice. And no offense. Cause my mama's feisty like, no offense, but I would like for her to learn how to do something unexpected. They're gonna expect her to sing Whitney Houston.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

So can, you know, I teach her how to yodel? And so my mama was like, yodel? What are you talking about, child? This child said she gonna be a superstar. You do some yodeling. And I loved country music.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

The first tape I ever got was the Judds, okay? And no one could understand, why is this girl like that, top of her lungs, singing this country music? So the yodeling, all of that happened. And who would have thought that I would go to a predominantly Black, you know, HBCUs? And I had checks in 11th grade. I knew I was going to FAMU. Okay.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

And I went there and I just started to yodel. And I did opera. And they was looking at each other like, what is going on? And then they gave me a scholarship. And they hadn't done that before. Mm hmm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, you could have went to Tennessee State, which is Nashville. But she got something against Nashville. But ain't nothing on my business, though, Kayla.

[K. Michelle]

No, but I just think my parents took my TSU application. Cause it was $15. I remember that the application was $15. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna go to TSU. And I know my parents like, well, if you're gonna leave out of Tennessee, we just want. If you're gonna leave Memphis, we want you to go somewhere else. So I still think to this day that my father never dropped off. Cause I've never heard from tsu.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

Yeah. Yes, I was, but I was always the pop. I wasn't, like, mean popular. Like, I hang with everybody, right? Like, I go, you could be sitting there. I'm gonna just sit with you. Like, I just would hang with everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were girls jealous of you? Did you always have this aesthetic package?

[K. Michelle]

No, I don't think they were just. Cause I wanted. I always had this thing about making people comfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Like, and just letting them know we cool, all this and that. No, I didn't have these teeth. I didn't have this breast. I didn't have these fillers. I didn't have this ass. Like, I just had personality. All I had was just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. Cause we see people that have all the aesthetic things that you mentioned, but have a terrible personality. And we see someone that doesn't have as much, but they're very personable, they're very charismatic, and people just naturally gravitate towards them.

[K. Michelle]

And I think that's what I'm going through now, walking into this Real Housewives world. I think that for so many years, I have made so much money, and I think the one year that I had financial struggles was the year that I got on this type of TV show. And I never cared about, like, cars or bags or anything. If I said. If I say, oh, I just want that, like, I would go, like, and do stuff, but it never was, like, a thing. So I feel like getting on Housewives right now. God got a sense of humor. He has a sense of humor. And he said, okay, I'm gonna show you. That you can get on TV and be yourself and you can get around a lot of people with a lot of money buying purses and bags before they even talk. But, yeah, that wasn't. That's not what I'm here for. That's not what God put me here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you feel like being at an HBCU prepared you for the real world? I went to an hbcu. There's nothing like it.

[K. Michelle]

What school?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went to Savannah State.

[K. Michelle]

Okay, so you went to Savannah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went to Savannah State. And I think. And I tell people, I said, if you didn't go to an hbcu, I think everybody that even goes to a pwi, I think for one semester that you should go to an HBCU to see the pageantry, to see homecoming, to see the Greek shows and the soras and when they have step shows and when they're in the park or go to the student center during homecoming and feel the buzz and feel the electricity in the air.

[K. Michelle]

Nothing like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or when they go over.

[K. Michelle]

Mm. It's nothing like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's nothing like it.

[K. Michelle]

It's nothing like it. I'm happy my son got to go to hbcu. That was always a thing for me and his father. And there's not a better experience, nothing for overall feeling, for the college experience, to witness, like, all the food that's cooked at homecoming, how everyone's so proud when they come back and they're so supportive of you being in college. It's something that everyone should experience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They absolutely. What's your favorite memory at fam?

[K. Michelle]

Oh, my God. My favorite. I would say my favorite FAMU memory would be the set on Friday, and I would make sure I had my Best Forever 21 outfit on. And I was gonna be ready at 12 o' clock to 1 o' clock to Prance in front of everybody and walk through the set on Fridays. That was my thing. I was gonna step out on Friday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You pledged Delta?

[K. Michelle]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Surprising your mom, Your sisters were deaf? Cause I.

[K. Michelle]

Why you say surprising?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you look like a.

[K. Michelle]

You think I give you a.k.a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

you do.

[K. Michelle]

No, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do.

[K. Michelle]

I'm a Delta dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, you sad.

[K. Michelle]

You gotta hang with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a Delta dad.

[K. Michelle]

I'm down Delta dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I get it, but I'm just looking at you. I would. If somebody's like, what do you think she is? She's a Delta. She's an aka she's sigmagamma Rose.

[K. Michelle]

You would say that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would.

[K. Michelle]

You ain't looked at me enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I looked at you enough.

[K. Michelle]

I am a Delta. My mom Delta, sister Delta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what would have happened if you'd have went the opposite way and say, you know what? I know everybody in the family are black and red, but, you know, your girl just gotta be that people.

[K. Michelle]

I don't care. Like, they wouldn't. They would've been okay with Deltas are Born. So she said she was never worried. When I got to famu, both organizations were courting me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

And she said she wasn't worried. She said, deltas are Born. I wasn't worried about any of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. You know, so your mom knew already knew what you was gonna be?

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. And my son, though, that was a thing for us because he pledged Alpha and his, you know, father's a Kappa. Okay, so it was bad. But, you know, his dad wanted to

[Shannon Sharpe]

be a Kappa, too, huh?

[K. Michelle]

So bad. But we wanted him to go to FAMU so bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Where'd he go?

[K. Michelle]

North Carolina. Central.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[K. Michelle]

He refused fam.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. He didn't want to be. You know, he's like. You know, he wanted his own identity.

[K. Michelle]

He don't wanna do anything that I want him to do. He wants to be his own man. He doesn't wanna take from me. This young man gets out there and gets to it, and he won't allow me to help, really, with anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I saw your probate video. You remember?

[K. Michelle]

You saw that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't worry about what I see.

[K. Michelle]

You saw that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you know. I mean, you know.

[K. Michelle]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That stroll. I mean, you had it.

[K. Michelle]

I mean, I hate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you hate it.

[K. Michelle]

I hate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you did. You hate that, man. You. Hey. Yeah, yeah. You.

[K. Michelle]

You. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You came out there stepping like a paladin.

[K. Michelle]

I was ready. That was a great day. Like to still watch it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you feel a sense of accomplishment? Did you feel a sense of pride?

[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause it seemed like, I mean, the way you were strutting, I mean, I was like, well, damn.

[K. Michelle]

It was that many people like famu to have that many people and to only have a line and pick 40 people, you know, out of thousands, and, you know, you're representing the campus organization. It was a proud moment because that was something else I had set a goal for. For myself that I accomplished.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. You mentioned your son and what you and his father wanted him to do. He's kind of did. Kind of did the opposite because he wants to establish his own identity. He wants to be his own man. But how proud of you, of him, that he chose to go to an hbcu.

[K. Michelle]

Very proud. I am extremely proud. He picked his own HBCU, did his thing, he graduated, 3.8 GPA, he's in corporate America and he's preparing to go to Berkeley for business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's unbelievable. But K, you got pregnant in college.

[K. Michelle]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At any point in time, did you think about terminating this pregnancy?

[K. Michelle]

Oh, I had. Did too many of them. I couldn't do it again. I don't care what people say, I'm gonna hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had the clinic on speed dial.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. It wasn't. I don't know if it was speed out, but I knew the links. Yeah, like that type of thing. I had gone through that. I loved the father of my child so much, and I had gone through it two other times and I just didn't want anybody to be disappointed. Like family, all of that. So when I found out I won Miss Florida A and M, I was sick through campaigning and I was like, oh, no, this would not happen. Not to me. I wouldn't win Miss Florida A and M University and be pregnant. Oh, no, no. And then yes, yes, yes. So me and my mom, you know, she was amazing mother. Is an amazing mother. And said, you just can't keep on doing this or running from something because of concern. If you wanna be a mother, we got you. You be a mother. But you're still gonna graduate in four years. I don't care. You're gonna graduate in four years.

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[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And obviously. And if you're not married and they see you walking around campus and I'm trying to think. I don't know if anybody. Normally, when young ladies got pregnant in college, they would just drop out. They just disappeared. We didn't see them anymore. And you're like, no, I'm going to school. I'm pregnant belly and all.

[K. Michelle]

I went to school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna get this paper. I'm gonna have this child, and I'm gonna do what I do.

[K. Michelle]

I'll never forget registration. While I was pregnant, my mom was like, I'm going with you. And I just remember us getting out that car, and that's my first scandal in life. I remember getting out that car, and everyone was just, like, staring. And I was going to register, but people would come up and be like, we love you. All of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

So I had so much love. Like, that's what I'm saying at HBCU and having that type of love and then saying, we respect your decision. People that I didn't know on campus would walk up. So I'll never forget. I don't want to call it a walk of shame, but I'll never forget the feeling of getting out that car, being pregnant, and, you know, how far along you were. Um, by then, coming around, I was completely showing. And I had given up my title, like, that summer before to. For Ms. Phamue. I said, I'm pregnant, and I'm giving up my title of Miss Florida A& M to my sister.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wasn't it in the bylaws that you couldn't be pregnant?

[K. Michelle]

Ms. Famu. They were great. Honestly, they didn't want to. So why you get a title? Because I wanted to focus on the child that I had and I wanted to graduate because there was a part of me that thought my life was over. Like, we're being honest. I thought it was over for me. And I'm like, no, I gotta graduate from college and I gotta figure out how I'm take care of this child. And, you know, waving and being Ms. Phamun while not knowing what it's like, you know, to be a mother is something that I know my sorority sister wanted it really bad, and she was first runner Up. And so I think, well, she'd have

[Shannon Sharpe]

had to go and get it next year. Cause she wouldn't have got that one. She sure wouldn't. But your parents took on the responsibility while you were in school to take care of the child and raise the child.

[K. Michelle]

Well, it was my last year, and they came to pick him up, and I disappeared. They couldn't find me for three days because I had the baby. And I was hiding because I didn't want. I wanted the help, but I didn't want the help. I didn't want to let go of that child for the rest of the year. And his father was like, oh, we'll do it. We'll do it. But he was pledging. He was doing all of that. I was like, I need this child to be stable. Every point of stable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

So when they came.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you had to go to class. You can't take a baby to class, boy.

[K. Michelle]

This is my last year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. And he's going to class. So who's gonna watch the baby while I'm in class?

[K. Michelle]

Last year. And I don't want any randoms. I have great parents. And finally, after those three days of running, I remember handing my baby. I was like, he's not gonna remember me. And it was the best decision at that time because I just feel like I was able to graduate and take care of him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that. You mentioned that. So clearly it was a very difficult decision. A decision that you wrestle with. Because I'm sure during those three days, you're thinking, like, what happens if I want to get my baby back? What if I say, you know what, in a week or two now let me get him back. Are they gonna be okay? It's your child. We're the grandparents. If that's what you wanna do, we're more than willing. We just want what's best in the interest of our grandchild, in the best interest of our daughter. So whatever you decide, K, we good with it.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. And they were great. Like my parents, I knew that they would never keep my child right from me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

And I knew the overall goal of everyone was to graduate so that you can provide for this child. And it was the best thing. The child, you know, Brian, the father of my child, he was mad. He was very mad when the parents

[Shannon Sharpe]

came and picked him up, because he's

[K. Michelle]

like, I can do it. But no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you like. Boy, please.

[K. Michelle]

I'm lying. Hey, we dealing with each other. You done cheated on me while I was pregnant and everything, and now you wanna. Now I'm gonna graduate and I'm gonna take care of this job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any regrets to the way you handle that situation?

[K. Michelle]

No. Nope. The best thing I did.

[Jonas Brothers]

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We invented a podcast.

[Jonas Brothers]

Well, we didn't invent it.

[Robert Smigel]

We.

[Jonas Brothers]

We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts starting, but this one's extra special. So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and, well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

[Robert Smigel]

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make you funnier this week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.

[CJ Toledano]

Where does your group perform?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Isaiah Thomas]

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm C.J.

[CJ Toledano]

toledano. And our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without

[CJ Toledano]

Luka and Austin Reed and finding ways to win.

[Isaiah Thomas]

No, he's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reaves, I gotta manipulate the game.

[CJ Toledano]

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

[Isaiah Thomas]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. He has to guard Julius Randle. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night tonight, bases on offense.

[CJ Toledano]

And when it's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Nash would get that thing, that man, hell, get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court and you gonna get the ball.

[CJ Toledano]

So listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Akilah Hughes]

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is getting a new one put up in its place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard, get to the grocery store. I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[K. Michelle]

If you're a historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

[K. Michelle]

We are more than our bodies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We contain essence. We contain spirit.

[K. Michelle]

How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

[Akilah Hughes]

You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gerard Adonno]

Hey, I'm Gerard Onno. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help on the Internet.

[K. Michelle]

Help, somebody, please.

[Gerard Adonno]

But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions.

[K. Michelle]

Psych.

[Gerard Adonno]

I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Cream.

[Gerard Adonno]

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[K. Michelle]

It was to allow my parents to help me so that my child could live a normal. A normal, stable life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you ask someone and it's always the only regret if you had to do all over again. If you were placed in this very situation, you're at that age then and now you are the age right now. 20, 26. In the same situation. Would you do it the same way?

[K. Michelle]

Absolutely. I would have still had my child, I would have still allowed my parents to help me. I would have still graduated, and I would have still been his mother. That would burn down the world about him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what's up.

[K. Michelle]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want more kids?

[K. Michelle]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You trying? Um, practicing. I mean, you know, I'm trying.

[K. Michelle]

Like, I've done IVF with my husband. We've done that. Um, he's, you know, very open to I want a little girl. Now all of a sudden, he came out with this he want a boy thing. Okay. But we just need to get it done right? So I'm open to adoption. Another round of IVF is what's going on. So I definitely. I want a little girl. I want me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. But he wants a little boy.

[K. Michelle]

This just came.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause at first he's like, okay, baby, you wanna go?

[K. Michelle]

Whatever you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whatever you want. Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

This just. He has no kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

You know, he's helped raising my child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

And been around him. And he has a nephew, but he doesn't have any kids. And now it's this thing of I want a boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but you tried a surrogate, right?

[K. Michelle]

Um, I had a surrogate, and it was. It was just a whole. It was a whole production.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She was trying. She. She wanted to be famous, huh?

[K. Michelle]

She wanted to be famous. And then she would call me at night and say that she was like, on Cleveland Ave. And people was knocking on the door and saying, it's K. Michelle, baby, and you. And then she had a whole significant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

On Cleveland.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, she said she was on Cleveland. That's what she told me. And she said she was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why she owned Cleveland.

[K. Michelle]

She was at the gas station and they was knocking on the door and asking, my baby was in her. And then, dad, how they even knew that? Cause of the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Cause that's what. She wasn't. Lovin Hip Hop.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. When I was on Lovin Hip Hop, they got to see that. And Then. And then I had my own show right when that was going on. And so I was like, I'm not comfortable. Then she had a man, but the man wasn't her husband. But the man wanted a contract for her carrying the baby. And, you know, I met her at ikea. Shannon. I met her at ikea.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, what'd you expect to get K?

[K. Michelle]

Well, I mean, IKEA has a nice variety of things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I went in there, but I don't know if Sergei's on the list that IKEA selling. I've been to ikea. I didn't see the section where they say selling it. No.

[K. Michelle]

So she had triplets. Imagine walking and y' all talking about babies and everything. You walk in IKEA and you see the most gorgeous triplets, like, newborn babies ever. So I run up to these babies, and she's like, oh, my God, are you okay, Michelle? I was like, yeah, but these babies right there. And so we exchanged numbers. I started to be the godmother to these babies and helping her and everything. And, you know, I just. I still, to this day like her as a person. And I felt like I was doing the right thing. This was someone here, you know, I was helping her with her, you know, babies and all of that. And I was like, thank you, ikea. I found a surrogate in ikea.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did it work?

[K. Michelle]

Well, we saw, you know, I ended up not deciding to not place, you know, anything. Yeah, it was a lot going on, her personal life and all of that. Still love the kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But why were you so open? Because a lot of people don't feel like sharing those experiences. Why were you so open with sharing that for the world to see? Now, normally, Sarah, it's between the individuals and nobody really knows. And it happens, and boom, baby plays with you, and everybody moves on happily ever after. The transaction, whatever, the. Whatever agreed upon term is done. But you felt really comfortable sharing this with the world. Why were you so comfortable?

[K. Michelle]

Cause I get to go to sleep at night. I've always told the worst of me before anyone got to, oh, you get

[Shannon Sharpe]

to tell your story.

[K. Michelle]

I'm gonna tell you everything. I myself, I'm gonna tell it, even if it's good or bad. Any opinion or anything. No one will hold anything over my head and telling, you know, if I make the decision, I know that that decision can get out. And I honestly have always told down to the point where they like, please don't tell, that I always told my entire complete truth, regardless of good or bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

You know what's so funny is that going through all the surrogacy and everything, my doctor has always maintained your uterus is very strong. You can go and you can carry if you would like to carry. So I think that's where the kind of argument with me and my husband is, is because when we, you know, started to try, right, it wasn't that we didn't naturally try to conceive and gave it a chance. I never did. I wanted designer babies, I wanted that. I wanted two Babies. And I was reading about all this stuff, so I was determined that I was going to do this ivf. No one said, you gotta do ivf, girl. Like, you have to. We never even gave it a real sh. Still to this day, of naturally trying to conceive and doing all of that, it's always needed to be planned. It's always. He says, I have a problem in control. So this is another control issue. So. Yes. I feel like a designer baby. K. Well, that's what it was called then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it was called. It's probably still called that now.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, it was called, like, the doctor I went to, he had done a lot of, like, people. And he was like, okay, I wanted girls. I wanted two girls.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

And you know, if you do that type of thing, you can keep your kid from over, I think from 200 to 300 diseases.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

That you can. They can see, like, looking and you can say, oh, oh, wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

It's healthy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

So when I say designer, I mean health.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay.

[K. Michelle]

And wanting my childhood.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I thought she was going like, okay, I want the kid to be like 5, 9. I want the kid to have this color. I.

[K. Michelle]

You saw, you know that they've been doing that whole thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

And picking eye color. If you go to Mexico, you can pick the eye color on the baby. All of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They design like they designing Birkins. I want a croc bag with this kind of hardware. I want rose gold. I want yellow gold. I want. Damn.

[K. Michelle]

I've done enough surgery and designing on myself. I would never do it to a child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, in the process of doing that, as you mentioned about what you've done to your body, what have you learned? Because you got silicone shots in a hotel room.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. And at my house. But this guy, what the hell? Okay, let me tell you something. You want me to break this down to you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Please do.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. So when it comes to the silicone shots and all of that, I think people think that that was like a super cheap or something route. I had just got was just at the height, like starting out my career.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

I wanted to go to who all the popular Beverly Hilvan. And they weren't going to surgeons on Rodeo or nowhere really. This is the person they were using the biggest of people. And I allowed them to tell their business. One thing that is a common thread for me and some of the biggest artists and actresses and reality stars in the world is this one man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[K. Michelle]

It's this one man. So it wasn't like, oh, Let me get a $2 in the hotel room. It was. He's the best at this particular thing. And that's what I did. Cause I thought I needed that. I knew my teeth looked like I had been chewing rocks. I knew that I needed some teeth. I knew that. You know what I'm saying? I knew I always wanted boobs. I never. My mother, them so curvy. And, you know, I didn't have to touch my butt. I was always.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's what I said. So you aesthetically had this.

[K. Michelle]

I had that, yeah. I wanted some more. And I thought for what? Because I thought like, the bigger it was, the bigger the stardom. Like, I really. There was no one, there was not a me to say to a girl, girl, leave that alone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So no one.

[K. Michelle]

So everyone that I looked up to was using him and was doing it. So there was nobody to say, don't, don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if there was, if somebody could have said, kay, babe, look at yourself, turn around, look in the mirror.

[K. Michelle]

You gotta know I still woulda did it. That's the honest, bad truth. Right? I still woulda did it. So when I be talking to these women and they gonna do it anyway, I be furious. I got people on my team that I've said, why would you do that? You just, you see tubes coming at me, you see this, you see all of this, like, why would you do that? But they gotta go through it on their own. But at least there is someone you can watch the extremes from when it happened. People magazine, best bodies down to this is in my bloodstream. Praying, blood, transfusions, everything. Like telling my mom, I'm not gonna make it about something stupid like this. You have a documented source for that? I didn't have that. So if they wanna. Hopefully I'm scaring some people straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

You know what I'm saying? Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got em. But I mean, but like you're like, I gotta go through this. I mean, shouldn't I be in a hospital room? Shouldn't I have, you know, or was it set up? Like, did you have. So you had everything that they would have in a hospital room you had in this hotel?

[K. Michelle]

I had what all the rich girls had when I did my shots, my shots and stuff. Wasn't before, wasn't as a dancer, wasn't this and that. It was when I was getting money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Like it wasn't. I just knew this is what all the girls that y' all love and this look like. And I thought I was doing and you know, doing the right thing. And I think I've caught a lot

[Gerard Adonno]

of

[K. Michelle]

black for not giving up that guy. That was the whole thing. I was like, I'm dying, and y' all trying to have me expose the guy. I just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell, yeah, he gonna die, too.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In jail.

[K. Michelle]

But one thing I think that Memphis and that kind of thing on me. If I get myself into something, I'm going to. I'm just gonna take on what. You know, what I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you just gonna eat that? Hey, that's on me.

[K. Michelle]

I'm gonna eat that. I ain't going. I'm not snitching. I'm not going to sue. I'm not doing none of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

I'm going to deal with the consequences of what I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what was being reported? That you were, like, gravely, gravely ill. That was true.

[K. Michelle]

Oh, yeah. Like, my mom. I can, you know, even see her face just from that. All those blood traces. I. I'm over. It was 13 surgeries, like, immediately, in a year. Yeah. And just even a couple months ago, which it really happened, like, with housewives. Only a couple of months ago, I did the American country music honors. And literally, because I've had silicone, they had to place implants. These implants. Everything is running out of my body. Like, we don't want no implants. We don't want any of that. So I'm still sick. There are certain things I can't eat, certain things I can't do. You'll never get silicone out of your body once it's in your bloodstream.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you know that beforehand?

[K. Michelle]

No. No. And then when I was injected, I was told it was like hydrogel that would, you know, dissipate. Yeah, I didn't know that. It was basically, when they opened me up, they saw it was motor oil almost, and it was. Yeah, it was that. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm just getting cute. We getting money. We doing all of this and that. So bad decision. Bad decision. I live with it. And I will talk to. I'm telling you, when people walk up to me, either they're telling me about their heartbreak, or they're talking to me about their surgeries. And I'll be like, when did I take on the face to talk to people about surgery? But I was open, and I want them girls to go through. So I get to see a lot of beautiful women. They're all in my dm. I always have women in my DM that say, can I talk to you? Can you help me? Can you? You know, that type of thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How much money do you think you spend on surgery? $500,000.

[K. Michelle]

Reconstruction. Yeah, because each time I have to go. Insurance doesn't cover.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no.

[K. Michelle]

What you've done to yourself, it doesn't cover it. So every time I go in, it's never under $50,000. Like, to go in, cut, do this, and then I'm in Beverly Hills, I'm in the midst of doing all that. Nothing about this has been cheap, right. When surgeries that have gone right for me, hardly any money. Like, I've always had the best boobs. Like, no. That. I've always had that. I don't touch my face. I got a nose job years ago. I get fillers and stuff, but I really don't touch my face. So not a lot of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I need y' all to help me understand.

[K. Michelle]

Come on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why y' all feel y' all need to do this?

[K. Michelle]

You know what? We would like to put it on y'. All. Okay, so we would like to put it on men. We would like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Men don't care. Nobody don't care if y' all got no. Men don't really like no bbl like that.

[K. Michelle]

But now. Okay, but you can't say y' all didn't. Now, what's coming around now is people don't even want big butts. They don't want this and that. But we would like to say, oh, we did this for men. But see, I'mma tell you the truth. It's not always about men. This is about wanting to feel on your own or how you want to look. And I'm still not against surgery, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you better not get no more.

[K. Michelle]

I'm still not against surgery.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You better not get any more.

[K. Michelle]

Nobody tell me not to get no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, and I'm. As a matter of fact, as soon as we get done, I'm going to call your husband.

[K. Michelle]

No, you can't. I mean, we gotta have. I still. I have to have reconstruction.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For what?

[K. Michelle]

For reconstruction. I have scars. I have wounds. Like, things like that. And not like, oh, I need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you wanna get cosmetic to, like, the wounds, the cus. Stuff like that, but you're not getting any more enhancements?

[K. Michelle]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've learned.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay. Low, then. Okay, okay.

[K. Michelle]

I've kind of learned that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay.

[K. Michelle]

It is for all the reconstructions and, you know, things like that. Yes, that I need. But as far as when people say they want to have surgery, I am not going to be the woman that says, don't go do what makes you happy for you. But make sure it's not something illegal. Make sure you know your doctor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Make sure you don't cut any calls going out the country to try to do something cheaply because you don't give her one life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

I'm that advocate. I am the advocate for doing what you want to do with yourself. But make sure it's not about no man. Cause they gonna leave you. Y' all leave people all the time. Men nowadays is what the discussion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I think the thing is, look, I can't speak to all men, but I mean, for me, I've never been. That's not a thing. I don't look at like, okay, I want her with it because she got the bbl. I mean, you naturally, you know, kind of like an athletic body. Somebody that works out. But. But I mean, sometimes it be too much. Yeah, it be too much.

[K. Michelle]

So what initially attracts you to a woman? It's like a. It's like her personality.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Cause I ain't heard her say anything yet. I saw her from a distance, to be honest with you.

[K. Michelle]

See? Okay, but what did you just help. But you get what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[K. Michelle]

Like, you saw her from a distance. She could be the best wife, mother. She could be. Bake the best cakes and be all that. But you wouldn't know that up front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

So your initial. Oh, let me see what she.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, you know, men are visual. We are visual creatures. Women like somebody that personality and can talk and can. And engage their mind. Guys like, okay, let me. Damn. Okay, she nice now.

[K. Michelle]

Visual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Visually. Now I'm gonna get an opportunity to introduce myself. Hopefully she's receptive and we can have a conversation. We go out and we talk like, okay, I can see myself, you know, getting to know her further, you know, dating and moving forward like that. But I'm looking at somebody. Oh, she got. Oh, yeah, I got to have her. She got.

[K. Michelle]

Okay, so. But you did say visual.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

Your visual interpretation of what makes you move is men all have different interpretations of what makes them move. So for in culture, at a time, what made men move to even get to know who these women were when they were looking at their visual. The visual at that time that society was selling the visual of slim waist, big ass and, you know, this and that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's always been predominant in our community. The black women always had ass.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. But then it went.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Woo. Yeah, y' all went too much.

[K. Michelle]

It went. It went. It went. It went far. Yes, it went far. But at the same time, you just Said what I'm trying to get at, the visual was the introduction.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[K. Michelle]

And so people want their introduction and their visual to be what they perceive

[Shannon Sharpe]

or what the guy's looking, what the

[K. Michelle]

guy is looking for, or what makes them feel good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

It might not even just be about the guy. I know that I look like societal norms when it comes to beauty.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

That's what was going on. And this time. Now you're seeing people get sick. People removing it. But guess what? But now everything comes back around, right? Now we're back around to, you know, slim, fit, healthy, everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. See, that's what I've been looking. That's what I see. That's what I saw from a deal. I saw Tennessee.

[K. Michelle]

Like, everyone's drinking juices and being. But that's in trend. That's right now. So right now you're gonna see, you know, smaller girls, fitness buds. Now I can actually get happy. Girls aren't going to get injected. They may do their dip. Like, hip dip.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did your hip dip? Like, come on.

[K. Michelle]

You know what a hip dip was?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't either.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, but they. Mine is dipping. Dipping. Not because they was naturally dipping. Cause of everything I've gone through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

So I just can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's okay.

[K. Michelle]

But it is okay. But until you imagine this, I am 43, and I am just to the point, like, people love you, the world, everything. I'm just to the point. And I've had to almost die. I'm just to the point at 43, where I'll get up and say it's all good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[K. Michelle]

Y' all gonna get this. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it took you 40. You're at 43 years of age before you finally. Before you finally accepted Cave Michelle for who and what she has to do.

[K. Michelle]

Physically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Physically, yes.

[K. Michelle]

Like, mentally, I probably should have fought harder mentally. But, like, mentally and everything else, I was accepting of that. Where I come from, what I stand, you're gonna always be attacked when you have an opinion. But physically has been a fight, you know? And even when you're not doing unto yourself. Do you know what it's like to wake up every morning and people be like, oh, she got a new face today. She got a new. No, really, I don't. No, really. Because I've given you and I've tried to help women. No one was bold enough to tell. You know how celebrities be. Like, I didn't do anything. I was never that girl. I said it a little bit. I was like this. Don't even feel right with me. So to be the person who talks about surgery and tell you, don't do this, do that, and then y' all use it against me on a daily. It's like, should I have even said anything? Cause I can't even post a picture without y' all thinking I laid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I see Glo is going through that now. It's like she's changed her face or she's maybe did something.

[K. Michelle]

She looks amazing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She looks amazing. She got in the gym. It looked like she got in the gym. I've had Glo on and she's amazing. She's very fun, loving.

[K. Michelle]

She's a sweetheart. Yes, she is. I would say that, like, when it comes to Memphis, I think she really personifies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She does.

[K. Michelle]

She personifies Memphis from. Even when her. When the song came out, I just remember DMing her and she was like, you like it? And then it was like, that girl, leave glow alone. This is a young woman who is showing a part of our city that we need to see right now. If she wanna get surgery, if she wanna do her squats, whatever she wanna do. All I'm saying is be healthy about your movements.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The only thing I'll say is, is that when they get it and they damn near become unrecognizable from what they were before. And I'm like, come on. Now. I understand that as we age, things are gonna change.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And your body's gonna change. And so the 18 year old Shannon doesn't look like 25 year old Shannon. Doesn't look like 35 year old Shannon. He damn sure.

[K. Michelle]

Well, black men age a bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We do, we do.

[K. Michelle]

Y' all look better the older y' all get. Cause y', all like, be scrawny and stuff and like. No, I'm saying. But yeah, I'm sorry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I grew into a lot.

[K. Michelle]

I think there are black men.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, how old?

[Jonas Brothers]

Ooh.

[K. Michelle]

Oh, 50. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

55.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

6.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. Okay. Those like the 50 and up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I was thinking.

[K. Michelle]

The 50 and up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No,

[K. Michelle]

it's the sexiness on a black. On a black man. From like that 50 to thing. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I like me some white men too. Especially with a man bun. I like man buns. Oh, white men and man bun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I guess I'd be. I just. This is what I got. I just got facial hair.

[K. Michelle]

You're handsome. Okay, so what? Like, people love you. And I think people love you. Cause you are a country guy. No, you're a Country guy. And you don't hide from none of your shit. You kind of. You might be a milder.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[K. Michelle]

Version of me when it's like, this is who I am. But you still do it very well in being you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that.

[K. Michelle]

And I have some black women I think that you should date. I've gotten two people married.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have?

[K. Michelle]

Yes. I got some great. Some great women. Nice. Country guy. Cool. Chill. Whole lot of money. Whole lot of money. You do got money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A little bit.

[K. Michelle]

You got money. You got. You got success. You got legacy. I can't wait to send my three contenders on. Baby. When I tell you, you gonna be like, oh, these are some good women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[K. Michelle]

No, I wouldn't know how to tell you. That's what I'm talking about when people talk about a skin bleach. Yeah, baby. Let me tell you something that I think that's most offensive. My daddy's a black history professor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

I wouldn't know where you even bought that bleach. I wouldn't Know how to bleach an asshole. I wouldn't know how to do none of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they bleaching them things too, huh?

[K. Michelle]

They bleaching assholes. They bleaching everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who cares?

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, but to tell. To say, she's way lighter. No one. If you put on a filter. Let me teach all the folk at home. If you put on a filter from any of the places by the time you click. I like that filter. You're gonna go down two shades lighter on a filter. But either way, I've always been this complexion. I've never played with my blackness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

Like. And I think that's. That's out of everything. That's the most offensive of anything to tell me. I'm bleaching my skin. I'm a black woman, like, through and through. So I be thinking, that's absurd. So I'm sitting up here telling you that I done chopped my ass off, I done injected the ass, I done blew it back up, I done deflated, it got doggone again. I done told you everything. I done hiked my titties up, I done told you everything, and you still. It's gonna come up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think you lying about that? Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Why would I lie about that if I wanted to be light? It ain't about me being light. I'm already what I am. I am who in color, I am who I am, right? Lighting, hair, things changing. But they want that so bad. It's like they want that so bad. They want me to not want to be black or not want to. I don't know. But I'm very black, right? I go so hard. Do you know what it's like being Nashville as a black girl?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I can imagine.

[K. Michelle]

I'm the only black girl on my label. I'm on the biggest label in Nashville. It's me, Jelly Roll, Jason Aldean, Laney Wilson. We are the biggest label. I'm the only black girl, right? Do you know what them means be like for me? You know what they like?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. I can imagine.

[K. Michelle]

I sit up there. I'm talking, I'm understanding, I'm learning. And then my own people attack me. I'm down to sit there and fought for y' all ass all day. You wanna talk about a bleach? And I'm sitting up here, black, black. It's all blickity black. We all black. We yodel. We do country music. We is black. And then you go to your people who. Who need to embrace you, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then the one that's pooping on you but bleaching used to be a thing.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, it's a thing, but baby, I

[Shannon Sharpe]

ain't no, no, no, no. I don't know if it's still a thing.

[K. Michelle]

It could be, but I do think it's a thing. So we had this girl and she does all this bleaching with like, Africans or whatever she's made. She might be a billionaire off of bleaching. And she was just naming out celebrities like, this person bleached this person. You're a whole lie. I wouldn't know what to do. I wouldn't know what to do with myself. When you are trying to be healthy and live. I'm sorry. My complexion is. My complexion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[K. Michelle]

That's nothing I've never been insecure about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

My complexion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Jonas Brothers]

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas. Jonas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We invented a podcast.

[Jonas Brothers]

Well, we didn't invent it. We. We just contributed to First People to do Podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special. So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and, well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

[K. Michelle]

Mm.

[Jonas Brothers]

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

[Robert Smigel]

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.

[CJ Toledano]

Where does your group perform?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Isaiah Thomas]

What's up, fam?

[CJ Toledano]

It's Isaiah Thomas and I'M CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without losing Luka and Austin Reed and finding

[CJ Toledano]

ways to win no matter what.

[Isaiah Thomas]

He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before and he knows without Luka and Austin Reaves, I gotta manipulate the game.

[CJ Toledano]

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

[Isaiah Thomas]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Jewelry, Julius Randle. And then he has to give us everything. He gives us on a night to night basis on offense.

[CJ Toledano]

And when it's friends stop by like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steve Nash would get that thing, that man, hell get the flying he running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Oh yeah, get your ass up and down the court and you gonna get the ball.

[CJ Toledano]

So let's listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Akilah Hughes]

Here's something that should not be as complicated as it getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it getting a new one put up in its place.

[Shannon Sharpe]

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's gonna be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard, get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[K. Michelle]

If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

[Akilah Hughes]

I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

[K. Michelle]

We are more than our bodies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We contain essence. We contain spirit.

[K. Michelle]

How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

[Akilah Hughes]

You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gerard Adonno]

Hey, I'm Jared o'. Donnell. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out help. On the Internet.

[K. Michelle]

Help. Somebody, please.

[Gerard Adonno]

But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an Actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions.

[K. Michelle]

Psych.

[Gerard Adonno]

I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it run. Ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream of chicken soup.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Cream.

[K. Michelle]

Cream of chicken soup.

[Gerard Adonno]

This is Help from a Hypocrite. The worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite as part of the Mike Kura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[K. Michelle]

You know what I'm saying? So the. The rich African that's feeding the people all the bleach, she should swallow it, because imagine having a father that's a whole black history professor, right? And his biggest goal is to graduate African Americans in Memphis. So they can go, you know, they can keep on going. He's way more famous than I imagine if his daughter was sitting around bleaching,

[Shannon Sharpe]

but she ain't happy to be black.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. When I sleep with women, you know, the women I like, like chocolate women.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, what did that. Oh, whoa, hold on.

[K. Michelle]

No, I'm talking about like, oh, you

[Shannon Sharpe]

say you sleep with what?

[K. Michelle]

Stop it, Shannon. What I'm saying is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you used to my preference.

[K. Michelle]

If I'm gonna change myself. My preference of what? When I look at a woman, be like, oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you said if you were to.

[K. Michelle]

Okay, well, no, but I do like, I like chocolate when, like, that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like women?

[K. Michelle]

Oh, my. I've been only been singing about it my whole life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know you like.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah, I don't do this stuff. Like, I always say I'm gay on holidays.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I ain't know that. I didn't, Shannon, but I take your word for it. But you like. You know, I just.

[K. Michelle]

I just. I like women. I always have. I've always sang. If you listen to all of my music, I've always talked about it. It's not a cool thing. Like, it's not that. I just, you know, I like what I like, and if I have to pick a woman, she is going to be. Oh, my God. Chocolate just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did your partners know? Did any of your partners know about

[K. Michelle]

you My partners know everything about me. My husband know everything. Do you know my husband? I was the girl he couldn't get in high school. Well, junior high.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you knew him before I been known him? Oh, I've been the closest ever.

[K. Michelle]

I married my high school sweetheart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[K. Michelle]

Mm. Look at your face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He walked you down either. You can run, but you can't hide. And he just kept running like prom.

[K. Michelle]

I stood him up for prom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used to.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. I was a little wild one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness.

[K. Michelle]

But he's an amazing man. And he knows. He knows my sexual preference. You know, we don't have this. It'd be crazy if you'd be like, oh, I seen your man. Okay. I seen him, too. I have a. I think I have the best marriage. The best marriage in today's society. Society. Honestly, I think my marriage is different, but it's the truth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that what's accepting. Is that because Nikki Glacier, you know, the comedian.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. Tammy, she's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nikki Glaser is a comedian. She's a very funny. A very funny woman. She's been at this thing for a while, but she really, really burst on the scene when they were a roasted Tom Brady. I don't know if you saw that on Netflix. But anyway, she said that, hey, she likes her husband. You know, getting down and watching her husband do that. Just don't have an emotional connection to them. Is that where we are now?

[K. Michelle]

For someone. I think for someone like me, everything has to be not in the. Because that's just in my life. Like, he's known. If someone knows you since high school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

And they've known your. Your. Your fantasies, your. Your like. Like your inner thoughts, your dreams, your hopes, everything. When it comes down to things like cheating, my thing in cheating is one you shouldn't be paying anyone's bills or paying attention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[K. Michelle]

Like, I'm not with that. Cheating for me might be different for, like, other people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Because it's the fact no one should tell me something about you that I don't already know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, interesting.

[K. Michelle]

You've played with me now. Because no one should be plotting, laughing, or doing anything. You should tell me everything that's going on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he should.

[K. Michelle]

It's about team. It's like you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

You playing football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

So you out there. You doing your thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Throw me the ball. Give me the rock. I'm getting to touch. Touchdown.

[K. Michelle]

It's like you gonna get the touchdown for somebody else. We ain't on the same team. Oh, you Gonna run the play another way. And like I always say, even in basketball, it's like shooting in another person, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Basket. You gonna let these hoes already want to get one up on me? You gonna let them, you gonna let

[Shannon Sharpe]

them get one up on me?

[K. Michelle]

If you gotta poke for three minutes, you gonna, you gonna, you gonna allow them that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if somebody came to you and told your husband did something to them that he didn't do to you, you gonna feel some type of way

[K. Michelle]

sexually?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

That's not possible. Oh, that's not possible. It's been that many years. All type positions, legs up, choreography, all that. That's not possible. Girl. If you're gonna tell me my husband was out with you and he was. He paid your light bill, then we're gonna. We probably have a problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. You get upset. So if he pay a bill, that's what you go get.

[K. Michelle]

He'll pay a bill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you want him to just post,

[K. Michelle]

poke, poke and go? What type? What do you mean? What do you mean? If men gonna be men and they need the feeling. The feeling doesn't include paying bills. If that's your feeling, then you're not my man. You shouldn't be paying nobody's bills buying them no little ass purses. I don't care about purses myself. Most likely they're singing my songs in the mirror and they're telling their friends that they. They was humping on my husband as they sing the songs. The last thing that you was gonna do is sit up here and pay a fan bill. Because I already do it. I already paid a fan bill. I've been doing it for over six years. I get up every week and pick a fan bill to pay, and I don't have to publicize it or nothing. We already paying fans bills. So you finna go and go sleep with a fan and then give them something? Oh, no,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know. I ain't know these type of. You know, I hear about it, but I ain't really never talk to somebody that's like, okay, you know, he do you not watching though, right?

[K. Michelle]

I would if that was offered to me. Sometimes I do like you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on, hold on. Timeout. Let me get a 20 second time out. I don't need a full minute time. I need a 22nd time out to regroup. Right. You mean to tell me you could watch your man? I have several times beat somebody back. You like, you get up on that.

[K. Michelle]

Maybe it's weird, but I kind of like it. Like it's these things with me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay. Thank you. I've been through it. I've been.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. It's not like me being. I. Oh, she's super freaky. No, you super freaky. He said. No, it's not. He kind of. He always says with me, this never. It's never about the things that people would think. Everything with you is about control, everything that you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you. So you the producer. So you like directing? You directing them or you just.

[K. Michelle]

No, I just like to watch. I like to have my cup and then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What kind of cup you sipping? Like this Here?

[K. Michelle]

Yes. It's cute. But I would like one of these.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want the glasses or the Kanye?

[K. Michelle]

I would take both.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

You gonna give me that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you have both? Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Yeah. But no one can ever say, oh, I your husband. You know what I would do? I would be. How is it so. Okay, so when I posted, I got married, I never tell. Me and this man have gone through so much, right. That no one can judge our toxic relationship or loving relationship, this and that. But one thing I know, that man love me, and he gonna get down to it by me. Same with me. So when you get past all of these. This woman did this. I ain't got no time for that petty stuff we got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got to get this money to get.

[K. Michelle]

We got stuff to do. I'm not dealing with that. I know that man loved me. So when it comes to sex, when I posted him on my page.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, women come back to woodwork. Oh.

[K. Michelle]

I knew what I was doing. I was never a dummy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you wanted to come out. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

He doesn't have any social media.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

I just started him a social media page. He doesn't have Facebook. For real? Anything. Yeah, all the women like, that's great. The man doesn't have social media. No. That's great for him. If you think about it, right? He gets to live whatever life he wants to live. And I'm not posting him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Is it what you think he could handle? Watching somebody be with you intimately?

[K. Michelle]

I would hope. No, if I can watch him, I would hope that he could do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. Hell, no.

[K. Michelle]

Why you say that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm. Mm.

[K. Michelle]

Why is that? The country is the country. And you. Hey, country eyeing you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To each their own. To each their own.

[K. Michelle]

But if I can watch you. We haven't come up against this. No, but we come up against this. If I can watch you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm Hercules. Hercules. Hercules. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Hercules.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, no, no. But ain't nobody. Ain't nobody Finna be than my old lady. Oh, I can watch that.

[K. Michelle]

Can we talk about that and what's going on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, we can talk about it. Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Why is it okay for women to allow you all to have threesomes and go do things? But that's okay. But you can't allow the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't.

[K. Michelle]

Why? Just say why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, here I can't speak. I'm just me.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't a threesome type of guy.

[K. Michelle]

It's a lot of choreography.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make a. I'm a one on one player.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Her and I.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna be honest. Me, my ego couldn't handle that.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Me watching another man. And that's my old lady.

[K. Michelle]

Is it because of who you are or is it because of how you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've always been. I was always been like this. Even before I became Shannon Sharpe and everybody outside in the world knew who I was, I was always like that.

[K. Michelle]

But do you think it's because I am Shannon Sharpe. I am accomplished. I am that dude. Like, do you think it's that more than if you actually had to? Because you are who you are. But imagine if you weren't who you are and someone say a woman is saying to you, okay, go do what you do. I would like to watch it. And which you would still give her that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. No. Oh. Oh, no.

[K. Michelle]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Mm. No way. Never.

[K. Michelle]

Have you ever been married?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have not been married.

[K. Michelle]

Do you want to?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do.

[K. Michelle]

So you wouldn't allow in your marriage the things that people fight about? Imagine if you took the things that people fight about when it comes to marriage and made them a non existent issue. Okay, then what if cheating wasn't an issue?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

If finances wasn't an issue. If.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Kay, you gotta realize when a guy, he's thinking about in his head, even though he didn't see, he's thinking about in his head because he knows what his woman is capable of doing. And the mere fact that he was thinking that she was doing that to somebody else, somebody else was trampolining.

[K. Michelle]

Because think about it. You're talking about something like, say you meet a girl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

And within a year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

You don't even think about what she's done. But imagine growing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about what she just what she's done with me in that year time that I've met her.

[K. Michelle]

What if the year wasn't a year? What if it was 15?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I couldn't do it.

[K. Michelle]

Kay, imagine if it was 15. Shannon. Imagine if it Was. It wasn't like we just started dating two, three years. This is 15. I watched this little girl become a woman. I've watched everything. Yes, she has accepted me. She's watched me cheat on her. She's watched, she's talk to the women. Imagine going through, like, life, like, for real life with a person. Not like meeting a person and spending the rest of your life, but imagine actual life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can't do it, K. And to the men that's out there, that can let their wives or girlfriends or significant other, whatever the case may be, that can watch them do that, more power to you.

[K. Michelle]

Well, he ain't gonna really let me do nothing like you just gonna do. I haven't did it yet, but I'm saying I feel like I should deserve that. You don't think I deserve that? Come on. They're gonna tear me up. He's gonna be mad. Let's just talk. Now everybody's mad today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I hate to say deserved.

[K. Michelle]

Shouldn't I deserve. If you do something to me, have you earned, Don't I deserve to experience what you did to me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gave him a green. You gave him a hall pass, okay?

[K. Michelle]

So the whole path should be extended all throughout life. You don't think that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa. What you mean throughout life?

[K. Michelle]

Throughout life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So hold on. If I do something in 26, that means to tell me you think you could do something in 20, 30? No, no, no, no, no.

[K. Michelle]

If you gonna change, tell me you change. Tell me you woke up this morning and you was a new man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a new man. I ain't gonna do it no more.

[K. Michelle]

All right. But you gotta tell me, right, if this is what we're playing. Think about it. Women, okay? And me and my husband talk about this all the time. Women. Women. The women that we want to use men for money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Let me tell you what. I get it both ways. I like to be submissive and stuff too. But the women that use men for money, they have to play by the money, right? If I don't have to play by the money, if I can still pay my bills even with you not here, then life takes on a whole different take.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

If I just love you and you don't have to pay a bill. Love and a bill is two different stresses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

So imagine I just like you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

I just like you just like me. And you go and go do this, and it's not about money, because I'm gonna pay my own bill.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're pay.

[K. Michelle]

You get to really see if you like a person.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

Get to really see if you like a person. And I just feel like these women nowadays, they. Out here, they're getting money, they're doing their thing, they are living, and people get mad. People say, oh, the modern day women has destroyed the family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

This and that. Well, maybe just make them a little bit more alert in the things that they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

Like, okay, Shannon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

You got a lot of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay? I do. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. Yes, you have a lot of money. So what if you met a woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

That also might not have the money you have, but makes a lot of money and is capable. You're gonna treat her the same, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I treat women the same. I don't look at you, I don't look at you less than. Because you don't have as much money as I. If I like you, I like and I treat you accordingly. I don't say, well, this person has a master's degree or a doctor's degree. I'm gonna treat this person better than I treat the person that didn't have a master's or doctorate degree. This person has this profession, and I'm gonna treat them better than a person that doesn't have. That's not how I operate. If I like you, I like you and I treat you accordingly.

[K. Michelle]

Okay. And I think that that is absolutely respectful. But. But there's nothing in you to say. I'm gonna maybe act better with this one because I understand that she's not gonna beg me because she doesn't need me. She wants me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

You don't think that that's a different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm old fashioned. Because when I'm in a relationship, I'm gonna do okay. Do without you asking. All I ask is that you be. All I ask is that you be appreciative. And I just hate ungratefulness. So if I do something for you, don't make me seem like it's inconsequential or it's small or somebody else.

[K. Michelle]

I'm in it. Cause I'm a man and I'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's just the way I am. I'm gonna. We go out, I'm gonna pay for the bill. I'm gonna, you know, if you need something, hey, you need something, you need, hey, even if you don't ask, you need anything.

[K. Michelle]

But do you think. Do you think that's going on now on the dating scene?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I can just speak to me. I'm just saying how I am because

[K. Michelle]

I don't like that right now. It's like what you bring to the table, what you do. So I'm watching all of these women, like, talk to me. It's a thing of. You have. Have successful women who have went to college. Like, even if they ain't went to college, they just hustlers. They have gotten it. They provided for their kids and everything, but they meet men and the men treat them as if they're just with them for money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay.

[K. Michelle]

Like you have real money. There are men that have $2, and they value that $2.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

And I value it because they worked hard for it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[K. Michelle]

But the behavior of them. I'm sorry, is it. Can we just say what we not supposed to say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go ahead.

[K. Michelle]

What? You're not going to do what? You're not gonna get the same privileges as a man with no vision and no money. Okay, I'm not supposed to say that, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you're supposed to say how you feel. So in other words, if he has a vision, if. Let's just say for the sake of argument, he does not have 15, 20, 30, whatever, millions of dollars. But he does have a vision.

[K. Michelle]

What you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. Okay. And he does have a vision and he wants to do things. And so what are you saying? He's not gonna get the same privileges? What privileges isn't he gonna get?

[K. Michelle]

You can't go be cheating. And I got the same money you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Yes.

[K. Michelle]

You get what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[K. Michelle]

You can't like everything that it has to always be, let's say, equally yoked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

Equally yoked means a lot of things now in society. Like right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[K. Michelle]

So for me and my husband, when I look at all the ladies and, like, housewives, all the people women married, I honestly feel like I have the best marriage. Both of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I see. I see what you're saying.

[K. Michelle]

But I have the best marriage. Why? I have the best marriage. Why? Because he knows my flaws, I know his. I know if a woman is coming to me like, oh, I slept with

[Shannon Sharpe]

your old man last night.

[K. Michelle]

What do you want? Like, after. After that? After you clean yourself off with the towel, what are you doing next?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[K. Michelle]

Like, after you have slept with this man and he's had a sense of enjoyment and whatever. What? Like, what Christmas dinners are you doing? Are you going. What are you bringing to our overall and family? Is that wrong?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They don't make up like you no more. Okay.

[K. Michelle]

No, but they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do.

[K. Michelle]

I don't Want, I don't want to. I don't want a man everybody can get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, this concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.

[Jonas Brothers]

Hey, guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

[K. Michelle]

I'm Joe.

[Jonas Brothers]

I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.

[K. Michelle]

We invented a podcast.

[Jonas Brothers]

Well, we didn't invent it. We. We just contributed to it. People to do podcasts.

[K. Michelle]

We get to ask other people questions

[Jonas Brothers]

because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

[Robert Smigel]

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.

[CJ Toledano]

Where does your group perform?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We do some retirement homes.

[Robert Smigel]

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Isaiah Thomas]

What's up, fam?

[CJ Toledano]

It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast Point game, the playoffs.

[Isaiah Thomas]

We're digging into the biggest sur prizes of the season and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was firm.

[CJ Toledano]

You just understood.

[Isaiah Thomas]

That's how personal it gets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Then after that game seven markip coming to you, he's like, you know I love you, dawg. You know it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.

[CJ Toledano]

So listen to point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Will Ferrell's big Money players and iHeart

[K. Michelle]

podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leigh Ann. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[K. Michelle]

A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Well, they had a bogo. Well then you got em.

[Akilah Hughes]

Listen to soccer moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[K. Michelle]

Hey, it's Ashanti Plummer from futtaround and find out. This week Az Fudd and I sat down with Stephen Kirk. Steph talks pressure, confidence and what it really takes to stay great. There's different categories I guess on like

[Isaiah Thomas]

conditioning, shooting drills where you try to

[Shannon Sharpe]

simulate kind of gains. Look at her face.

[Isaiah Thomas]

We have a love hate relationship with

[Shannon Sharpe]

those because you know you're getting something out of it.

[Isaiah Thomas]

You don't look forward to those days.

[K. Michelle]

Listen to Fut around and find out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.