Club Shay Shay - Kam Patterson Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Kam Patterson Part 2

Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Guest: Kam Patterson
Date: June 17, 2026

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of Club Shay Shay features part two of Shannon Sharpe’s lively, insightful, and hilarious conversation with rising comedian Kam Patterson. They dive into Kam’s journey from humble beginnings in Orlando, Florida, to making waves in stand-up, reflect on family influences, ambition, sacrifice, and comedic philosophy. The episode is packed with anecdotes, debates about greatness and balance, the grind of entertainment life, and Kam’s aspirations in and beyond comedy.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

Social Media, Relationships, & Jealousy

• Kam’s take on famous people following his partner:
  • He admits to being bothered but tries to stay “cool” outwardly; ultimately, honesty wins out:

    “Of course I did. I got a problem. Said it immediately. I said, oh, hell no. This some bullshit.” – Kam (02:00)

• Double standards:
  • Kam and Shannon discuss following attractive people for non-romantic reasons, but Kam remains suspicious of motives when it comes to his own partner.
• On pettiness and therapy:
  • Kam jokingly claims his petty side is strong, and Shannon relates his own therapy experiences and self-discovery.

    “Are you arguing for right or are you arguing to be right?” – Shannon recounting therapist’s words (03:46)

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The Grind, Sacrifice, and Therapy

Living For the Chase & Missing the Journey (04:44–07:27)

• Kam explains the tunnel vision of chasing goals:
  • “Sometimes you miss…you do the journey of what's happening.” (04:44)
  • Both agree on the sacrifices the chase demands and the toll it takes on personal life.
• Greatness and ‘Balance’:

  “There is no balance to greatness…greatness is monotonous because greatness requires you to do the same thing over and over and expect the same results.” – Shannon (16:11)

  • Kam agrees completely:

    “Thank you.” – Kam (16:12)

• Therapy for living life, not just working:
  • Kam admits sometimes he forgets to actually “live life,” being so locked into his work.

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Starting Out, Family Roots & Influence (08:16–11:10, 19:19–21:08)

• Stand-Up Origin Story:
  • At age 22, Kam prayed for a passion and started stand-up two weeks later.

    "I got on my knees...God, if you help me find my passion, I go as hard as I can at it. And two weeks later, I was doing standup." – Kam (08:16)

  • Kam credits God, friends, and a supportive dad for his break.
• Parental Encouragement:
  • Kam’s dad told him: “If you want to do it, you go as hard you can at it...I give you a year to figure it out.” (20:55)
• Importance of support:

  “Sometimes that's all we need…One person, my dad.” – Kam (21:07)

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Money, Dumb Purchases & Lessons in Finance (22:18–24:44)

• Kam’s first ‘dumb’ purchase:
  • Bought a ’96 Impala that broke down (22:23), tried buying used cars; lesson learned about saving/investing.
• On financial fear:
  • “My biggest fear is, like, going broke. That's kind of the scariest thing.” – Kam (24:16)
• Family and Generational Wealth:
  • Kam aspires to build “financial wealth for my whole family.” (24:28)

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The Comedy Hustle: Craft, Process & Progression

The Set, Bombing, and Chasing the Next Level (59:27–73:41)

• On why New York over LA:
  • “In New York, on a good night… I can get like eight shows in one night.” (59:27)
• Kam’s approach to bombing:
  • “I bomb all the time. I bomb now. That go with it…” (73:00)
  • Kam sets his own high standards: “If I'm out there doing my A material and I don't feel like I destroy it, then that's a bump…you gotta be great.” (73:33)
• First ever stand-up joke:
  • About a gay teammate: “Had a teammate that came out as gay after the season ended…during the games, dude, I said, when you smack my ass, was that like a gay thing or a basketball thing?” (71:52–72:42)

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Family, Upbringing, and Character Building (35:07–43:33)

• Orlando roots:
  • Grew up moving between his dad’s “hood adjacent” home and his mom’s suburb spot: “Good mix of both.” (35:51)
• Siblings and being the middle child:
  • “I'm in the middle, so it's two ahead of me and two younger than me.” (36:36)
• School antics:
  • Class clown. Anecdotes about getting called to the office, being accused of bullying, and how his dad had his back.

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Reflections on Growth & Staying Grounded

Where Am I Now vs. Where I Expected (29:07–30:19)

• Kam feels he’s about where he dreamed, but sees it as just the beginning:
  • “I just keep telling myself like, man, it's just getting started.” (29:57)
• Staying grateful:
  • “I get to wake up every day and just do what I love to do…can't thank God enough.” (21:08)

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Florida Culture, Rap, and Social Commentary (55:41–57:14)

• Kam’s Florida rapper Mount Rushmore:
  • “Kodak…Rod Wave…Hot Boy, Hurricane Wisdom…Bossman Dlo (honorable mention)” (55:43–56:30)
  • Playful debate about classic Florida acts, attraction to Doechii, and the wild reputation of Florida (“Y’all got too much going on down there!” – Shannon, 60:16)

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Stand-up Across America, Dreams for the Future (70:25–77:24)

• Dream venues and visions:
  • Kam wants to headline the Kia Center in Orlando, then MSG, perform abroad, and star in movies; doesn't put a timeline on dreams, trusts “God’s timing.” (70:33–71:15)
• Advice for next-gen:
  • Kam wants to be a mentor:

    “I want a kid to come on your couch and be like, I got to work with Cam Patterson this week. And that meant the world to me.” (77:05)

• Projects to watch:
  • Film “72 Hours” coming July 24, SNL appearance hint, tour dates on website. (77:24)

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On greatness:

  “There is no balance to greatness. Greatness is monotonous because greatness requires you to do the same thing over and over…” – Shannon (16:11)

• On blessings:

  “Sometimes that's all we need…One person, my dad.” – Kam (21:07)

• On purposeful living and gratitude:

  “I get to wake up every day and just do what I love to do…can't thank God enough. I truly can't.” – Kam (21:08)

• On the bond with his dad:

  “I just like making my parents proud. That makes me happy.” – Kam (74:47)

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HIGHLIGHT TIMESTAMPS

• Therapy Talk & Self-Discovery: (02:46–04:34)
• Living for the Grind & Sacrifice: (05:21–07:27)
• Origin of Stand-Up Career: (08:16–11:10)
• Financial Wisdom & Purchases: (22:18–24:44)
• Family & Parental Influence: (19:19–21:08, 74:20–75:58)
• Philosophy on Greatness: (16:11–18:27)
• Crazy Florida Stories & Rap Mt. Rushmore: (55:41–57:14)
• Bombing & Stand-Up Craft: (73:00–73:41)
• Future Goals: (76:00–77:24)

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OVERALL TONE & VIBE

The episode is fast, funny, down-to-earth, and filled with mutual respect and big laughs. Both Kam and Shannon hold a conversational, honest, and at times vulnerable tone. They riff, roast each other, and reflect sincerely on family, ambition, and what it takes to rise. Kam shows immense gratitude, humility, and ambition throughout, while also never missing a chance for a joke.

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SUMMARY

This energetic Club Shay Shay episode is a masterclass in balancing ambition, personal growth, humor, and gratitude. Kam Patterson’s rise illuminates universal themes of perseverance, the value of strong support systems, and the realities (and comedy) of the relentless pursuit of greatness. Anyone on a journey—creative or otherwise—will find plenty to laugh at and more than a little to think about here.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Do you have a problem? You're dating someone, obviously they're on social media and then somebody famous follows them.

[C]

I don't like this.

[B]

You don't like that?

[C]

I mean, I don't got no problem with it, but do you follow?

[A]

Do you.

[C]

You don't worry about what I do. There ain't nobody been there. My me. That's me.

[B]

You famous too.

[C]

Y' all good.

[B]

And you following somebody, girl, I guarantee you cool. But you don't want nobody to follow your girl.

[C]

Leave my girl alone.

[B]

What she did to you.

[C]

Leave her alone. Don't talk to her.

[A]

Leave her alone.

[C]

What?

[B]

People just follow people?

[C]

I don't care. Nah, I don't care. I don't just follow people.

[B]

No, me personally, some people like. Okay, you into fitness?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay, somebody has a nice body. Okay, you follow them cause you like to exercise or somebody in whatever the case may be track and field athlete. Okay. Everybody that follows up out of cab ain't trying to get down y' all

[C]

own shit, depending on who it is.

[B]

So you tried to get down with everybody? You was trying to get down with everybody?

[C]

Nah, some women I follow, I just follow off the.

[B]

Okay, yeah. What if old boy just follow your girl just to.

[C]

I don't believe that. In the situation you talking about. I'm not gonna say who it was, but that situation up, I don't believe that shit. Ain't no way in here that nigga was not following to just to follow her. That nigga follow it. The.

[B]

He tried to crack her.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Oh, my goodness. So what happened next? Did you tell her to block him?

[C]

Nah, nah, I kept it pee.

[B]

You ain't let her know that it bothered you that he was following her?

[C]

Nah, of course I did. I got a problem. Said it immediately. I said, oh, hell no. This some bullshit. And she gonna try to tell me with a smile.

[D]

Oh my.

[C]

Look, I don't give a fuck. Give a God damn who this is.

[B]

Come on, man.

[C]

What?

[B]

So what. What if somebody. Somebody else Girl might feel, or somebody dude might feel that same way about you. Oh, you falling this in.

[C]

I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you the same thing that nigga probably said about me. Who cares?

[B]

Come on, Cam. What, you that petty? Very,

[C]

man.

[B]

You up there petty rucks for them. I can't believe you, bro. Therapy? You tried therapy?

[C]

Nah, nah. Oh, no, I ain't tried it. I need to, though. Lot going on. You go to therapy? I have. You have. You ain't like, how you feel about it.

[B]

You gotta be honest and be receptive. A lot of times, you know, we be combative. And then when you. And I think. The thing is that when I was actually there talking to her and I've had therapy about three times. Every time it's been. I've never had a male therapist. And every time that I've talked to him at the time, and it's like. But then when I'm away from it and I'm sitting alone in my home, I'm in my car and I think about what they've said.

[C]

I was like, damn,

[B]

am I that transparent? Can they see through me? Can they see? And I remember the first efforts I went to. I remember she used to tell me all the time, you know, she's like, shannon, are you arguing for right or are you arguing to be right? I want to be right. I'm right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

She say, if you're arguing for right, you can work it out. She said, but if you're arguing to be right and you feel that you need to be right, it's not gonna work. She said, shannon, right now, as I talk to you, and I've talked to her one time, you guys are communicating in two different languages. She's speaking Spanish. You speak in Mandarin Chinese. Either she learns your language or you learn hers, or it's never gonna work. She also said, you know, she told me a lot of things about my childhood and how I am. Cause I'm. You know, I grew up with my grandmother, and so I'm very respectful. And there are certain things that I just. I just think that this I just

[C]

can't do for sure.

[B]

And so they forced me to take a strong, hard look at myself. But when you've been doing something 30,

[C]

40 years, it's hard to change that.

[B]

It's hard to Change that. Amen.

[C]

100. I wanna slide it there. I wanna slide. I think it's a good thing, but it's a good thing.

[B]

So what do you think? What is going on that you want to release, to help you become a better cam.

[C]

I don't know. You know when you chasing something and then you get locked in on the chase of it. I think I talk to people all the time. Not like a therapist, nothing, no shit like that. But it's like talk to people and it's just like when you so locked in on what you try to do and what you try to become, sometimes you miss, like you do the journey of what's. Of what's happening.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You feel what I'm saying? Maybe talking to somebody about that. Cause it's like also, like. But I've also. You work so hard at something, dog. You just don't want to. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Like, you have to. But see, what you're chasing and as the next professional athlete and you try to achieve it is that it takes a tremendous amount of. Not only a sacrifice, but it take

[C]

a total commitment, 100%.

[B]

And people don't understand that because I've only got one shot at this, and I don't want to mess it up.

[D]

100.

[B]

And you need to find somebody that's going to be accepting of you going on this chase for real. And if they can't accept that. Everybody said a lot of people say they could accept they could be number two to football, but when it came down to them being number two to football, they couldn't accept it.

[C]

Yeah, not for sure.

[B]

And I can't put you. Because I've got to sacrifice some things. You gotta have somebody in your life that understands that.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

No, I just think situations, I mean, just in life in general, like everybody. Cause I think somebody. The person I do have around me is like, they understand.

[B]

They got to. Because you go, I mean, stand up, bro. You gone.

[C]

I'm always out the way.

[B]

You gone. You gone. Gone. And when you working, most people are asleep.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then like when you get done, to come down off that high, because it's an adrenaline rush when you're on the stage. I mean, when I played, it was like, man, it took me four hours to just like. To come down and to just relax so I could go to sleep.

[C]

But to walk into an arena and somebody say your name, people lose their minds. I mean, you know it.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's adrenaline rush, bro.

[C]

It's the greatest feeling in the world. And so to come down from that, it's a tough thing.

[B]

Yeah. And you still. And you're like, man, I'm so close. I know. I'm so close right now. And, well, we need to go here. We need to go that. But I can't.

[C]

I'm just locked in. I'm locked in. But also, like, I think therapy might help in the sense of, like, also living life, too. You can't forget to live life. And I think sometimes I'm so locked in on what I'm doing. Like, I be stand up every night to show every night. Like, I do so much, like, work that I don't. They don't play too often. You feel what I'm saying?

[B]

I think I'm gonna take some time off. I'm gonna take me to a couple of. Cause I haven't gone on a vacation since 96.

[C]

I fuck with that. I be trying to tell people that, bro.

[B]

Because then people say, well, how you don't take a vacation? I said, cause I don't feel I need to get away from anything. Everything I want is right here.

[C]

I enjoy the work I do. I enjoy the work I do. That's the best part to me. The best part to me is the work. The outcome is nice. All this shit is super cool.

[B]

All this shit.

[C]

But the work, and I mean it mean the world to me, bro.

[B]

And to see it put in. Because I'm looking at you and you sound a lot like myself when I was your age. To put the work in and to see everything come to fruition that I had dreamed for, that I had hoped for, that I had wished for, and to see my hard work and the fruits of his labor start to bear. There is nothing like that. There's nothing like when a plan comes together 100%.

[C]

I tell you about. I. I thank God. I thank God more than anything, dog. I. I never forget when I. When I started doing stand up. I was. I was 22 when I was lost. Like, I was lost as hell. Like, I didn't know what I want to do in my life. I was. I. I moved in with my. My pops. And I. I remember getting on my knees. I remember praying. I remember I just said, God, if you help me find my passion, I go as hard as I can at it. And two weeks later, I was doing standup. Wow. And then, from then on, it was never an idea of a break. There was no idea of, like, slowing down. It was every single day until now. I mean, I got sick one time and I just couldn't go nowhere for like a week and a half. And I just ate at me, but I just couldn't. I physically just couldn't go nowhere. But other than that, it's been from that day forward till right now, it's been every day

[B]

for almost four and a half years, huh?

[C]

Yeah. I thank God. Damn, I thank God.

[B]

You said you got on your knees and you asked God, said, God, if you show up and tell me what my passion is, I promise you. So prior to that, you really didn't know what you wanted. You thought you wanted to do stand up, but there were a lot of other things going on in your head that you know.

[C]

When I was 19, I worked at Foot Locker. I got a job, Foot Locker, right after. Right after school ended. And I remember, like, everybody, I'm talking about my shout out. My daughter Vince, my dog jj, My manager at the Foot Locker. And I would tell basketball stories from high school. The whole time. It was like, slow, dead. Nobody was in there. So I would tell the stories all day. And one day when they were just like, hey, we telling all these stories, man. You should try stand up, right? So when I was 19, I tried it for the first time with my mama, with my mom and shit like that. And she took me out there. She didn't want me to go by myself. And I got on stage and I did okay. It was decent, but I wanted. I asked a bunch of the other comics, like, who was around just for, like, help and shit like that at the time, and nobody wanted to help. They ain't want to give me the time of day. And I was like, man, I'm gonna just go back to doing what I was doing, which was just. What I was doing was just being lost, running around, doing.

[B]

Did that hurt you? Because you thought. I'm not saying, bro, give me everything, but give me some tips. What do I need to do? How do I set the joke about it?

[C]

This how great God is, though. So I go back doing what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying? I'm still lost. I get on my knees, I pray. When I'm 22, I'm doing it for real. I meet the guys that I wanted to be there when I was 19, you know what I'm saying? Like, my dog David, look how he worked it out. You feel what I'm saying? Look how he figured out. My dog Jar. You feel what I'm saying? Like, they was people. I be on the road to me, to this day, they the ones that helped me figure out how to do stand up and how to, like, you know what I'm saying, Stay on stage and keep, keep, you know what I'm saying? Being around. So even though at the time when I was 19. It wasn't the embrace I wanted. God made it right. When I got to 22, it was like I got everything planned out for you. I now just go get it. You feel me? And now I'm doing something. I just. I mean, I just feel so blessed. You feel me, right? Mom, can you tell me a story?

[A]

Sure. Once upon a time, a mom needed a new car.

[C]

Was she brave?

[A]

She was tired mostly. But she went to Carvana.com and found a great car at a great price. No secret treasure map required.

[C]

Did you have to find a dragon?

[A]

Nope. She bought it 100% online from her bed, actually.

[C]

Was it scary?

[A]

Honey, it was as unscary as car buying could be. Did the car have a sunroof? It did, actually.

[C]

Okay, good story.

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[F]

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[B]

You said that the grind of doing this all the time, does it become. Is it all encompassing? Does it like, damn. Because you gotta be careful what you wish for now. Cause you just might get it.

[C]

No, I told you, I love to work. That's what I like.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I like.

[B]

But you're trying to find a balance.

[C]

But that's why talking to you, it kind of helped. Cause it's like, oh, man. I mean, people always. People don't do what you do want you to do.

[B]

There is no balance to greatness.

[C]

There's no. Thank you.

[B]

Anybody that tell you there is a balance to greatness. There are lying. They are lying. And greatness is monotonous because greatness requires you to do the same thing over and over and expect the same results. LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant, rest his soul, Michael Jordan, Serena Williams, you tell me a great, someone that achieved something great. See, people want to tell you now, well, look at this person. Look at that person. Yeah, they take breaks now. They're worth 100 billion. They're worth 300 billion. You're damn right I can take a break. But ask them a question. When they were set up in their garage, how many vacations did they go on?

[C]

100%.

[B]

Well, you can. And there's nothing wrong because people are going to take what you and I say is wrong. You can be a 9 to 5.

[C]

That's, that's a perfectly good living.

[B]

That's. But 9 to 5 doesn't require you to be great.

[C]

100%.

[B]

I like to think most people that no matter what you do, you have the idea of advancement. Even if you start in the mail room, you're like, I don't want to do mail all the time. I want to move up. So whatever the, the, the, the step above in the mail room, I want that. And whatever the step above that, I want that. If you start off on jv, your goal is to go to varsity. If I'm on second team, my goal is to go to first team. And for the most part, if you play a high school sport, more times than not, probably 80% of the kids want to go to college.

[C]

100%.

[B]

So. And this is what I just, I said, look, if you want, it's okay. And there's nothing wrong with a great 9 to 5. There's nothing wrong with that.

[C]

Not at all.

[B]

But greatness is outside of those hours. Greatness is a 24 hour. It's how you eat, it's how you sleep, it's how you live. It's all encompassing. It's an unquenchable desire to be better. And some people don't understand that. And you know what? It's not for everybody. Everybody can't be great. And if you're not willing to sacrifice, if you're not willing to put everything on the line to sacrifice for you, you don't deserve to be successful. And I don't feel bad 100%.

[C]

Everything you just said, I agree with 100%.

[B]

But I just listen to Tom Brady talk, listen to Jordan, listen to Serena, listen to Steph. Look at the.

[C]

I listened to Michael Jordan's His Last Dance. Nah, nah, nah. That. I watched that too, obviously, but his. His retirement. Not his. Not retirement. Hall of Fame.

[B]

Hall of Fame.

[C]

The whole thing was just spiked. I love that. The whole thing was like, this nigga said I couldn't do this or I did that. The whole speech. Yes, he said I couldn't do this. So I made that happen. Know what I'm saying? Yes. And I think that's how you got

[B]

it like it is. Because everybody will say once you made it. I knew it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You didn't tell me that when I was.

[C]

When I was.

[B]

When I was on my journey.

[C]

Yeah, for sure, though. When I was running up damn stairs and hills and shit. Yes, for sure.

[B]

But that's the motivation that you need. Because everybody would say, man, I knew Cam. I knew Cam was gonna do it. No, you didn't.

[C]

Nobody ain't believed. My parents believed me, but my mama did. So my father was like. And you with me right now, like, to this day. But my father was like, from the jump, from the very beginning. I remember. Cause my mom, like, she. My mom is. My mom. A great mother, man. Amazing mother, phenomenal mom. But she. She's a like sister. She got a. She's a flight attendant. She do her job. You feel what I'm saying?

[B]

And so you be flying for free. You on budget pass.

[C]

I used to. I used to. Nah, you know, buddy passes, there's a lot of stress called. They don't know about that. They don't know about the stress that come with the buddy pants.

[B]

Hey, you gotta wait.

[C]

You look up that seat, hoping somebody missed their flight. They got the.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

For a minute, though, it was real good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I got a little bit of Money. I said, all right, that shit. But my mama said, she do like. She went through it. She done stages, did her thing. You know what I'm saying? But I remember when I told her I was gonna take Comedy Serious At 22, I was like, I'm gonna take comedy. I'm just too comedy. But I ain't do it since I was 19. I only did it once. I was 19. I don't even count. You feel what I'm saying, right? So now it's three years, four years later, and I'm going, I'm gonna do this thing. Crazy as hell. You lost your damn mind. You ain't even working at it right? And so she was like, well, you gotta go. She can't do that here. It's too late. You know what I'm saying? So I went to my dad's house, and I asked my dad, I said, pops. Well, first of all, she was on the phone. She was telling him, like, you know, talk him out of it. Tell him it's not a good idea. You feel what I'm saying? Telling me he just shouldn't do it. And then my dad said, for sure, I'll talk him out of it. And he hung the phone up and was like, if you did what you want to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, yeah, of course. He said, if you want to do it, you go as hard you can at it. Go 110. I give you. I give you again. I give you a year to figure

[B]

it out, because that's all I need.

[C]

That's all I needed.

[B]

Hey, you need somebody to put that

[C]

battery in the back and believe you, that was it.

[B]

That was it. And sometimes that's all we need.

[C]

100. There's somebody to be like, no, I can see that.

[B]

One person, my dad.

[C]

I mean, that was it. I just needed him to be like. I can see that. I get. I understand that. And now we. We running. And I said this whole pocket. I said the whole time, dog. But it's. It's. I just feel so blessed, you know what I'm saying? To do. So I get to wake up every day and just do what I love to do, right? Be around the people I want to be around, dog. I can't. I can't thank God enough. I truly can't. I really can't. I get end in first ending. It'll go from that, then the SNL thing to where it's like, it was never on my card, and I just in my face, right? And I'm telling you, when I say, I love being her. I truly like being in that space. Cause you around so many, like, great creators and so many, like, right? And it gave me like a schedule, like, with a regimen.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And I need that in my life.

[B]

It gives you a routine.

[C]

Yeah. You feel me? I get to be around people that. I mean, I'm telling you, it just.

[B]

And when you around greatness, I mean, you see what it takes and you see what these people, what they have achieved and what they had to go through to get it. And so you understand, like, I'm on the right path because this is. These are exact. The steps that they're telling me about that they took. I'm taking these exact steps.

[C]

100%. That's it.

[B]

You get a little money now. So what's. You may have some dumb purchases.

[C]

Yeah, I bought a 96 Impala. That bit broke down. I sold that, bro. First of all, nah, dumb person. I black. This is my damn father fault. First of all, I was gonna buy. I wanna. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna buy it soon. I was gonna buy a black Wing. The Cadillac. The Black Wing Cadillac. The. You know, talking about the sedan. It's new. It's new. It's like, yeah, it's newer. I go there like 24, some shit like that. But I was gonna get. I was at a dealership. I'm gonna get an Escalade.

[B]

Like, is it an Escalade?

[C]

No, it's like a sedan.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

I'm tripping. The black lean. Yeah, yeah. Ctv. I was gonna get one of them, right? So I called my dad, I said, paul, I'm gonna get this car. Da, da, this and that. My dad go, Cause, you know, you know, we start making a little bit of bread, your family ain't. We ain't. You know what I'm saying? So I say, pops, I'm finna get this car. My dad go, what? We don't buy. We don't buy cars from the dealership around here. We buy cash cars. We buy cash cars. I said, all right, pops. Heads, I bought me a shitty little cash car. I had three cash cars.

[B]

They blew over my fucking face.

[C]

They all blew up.

[B]

So all the money, you could have got you a brand new car from

[C]

the brand new car from the dealership. I got three up. Facebook, marketplace, bullshit, hoopness. Come on, dad. Like, we don't buy shit like that right here, son. You lost your damn mind.

[B]

So you gonna go back and get your car.

[C]

I'll get everything soon for sure.

[B]

So that's what you want. A Caddy?

[C]

Yeah, I'm a caddy.

[B]

You ready to cat you. Oh, so, okay, you ready to caddy?

[C]

My mama got a Caddy right now they get a different one, dude.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

But, yeah.

[B]

Yeah. What you know about that? Your pop probably know about the Coupe deville, the Fleetwood.

[C]

Yeah. The sub my granddad had. Tell that guy. Yeah, Come on, huh? Yeah, come on.

[B]

I know you don't know nothing about no nothing.

[C]

I ain't never. I wasn't around, but it was popping like that. But I like it. I enjoy that. It's in my phone. I was like, oh, shit.

[E]

Got here.

[C]

This shit right here kind of fire, you feel me?

[B]

They don't make them like that anymore.

[C]

Nah, they don't.

[B]

What have you learned about money?

[C]

Oh, man, I'm just trying to figure out how just to just invest it, right? Save it. You know what I'm saying? My biggest fear is, like, going broke. That's kind of the scariest thing. You feel what I'm saying? So just trying to keep people around me that just financially keep me light.

[B]

Right?

[C]

But I think my people. I got to help me handle the money is I got a really good team around it. You feel what I'm saying? So just trying me, you know, I'm trying to get, like. You know, I'm trying to start gaining, like, financial wealth for my whole family. That's the plan.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You feel me?

[B]

To make sure. Make sure them five kids you got.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Taken care of. You fly when you fly with Tony? Tony on a private jet.

[C]

We was a couple times.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You like that, huh?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Ain't nothing like it either.

[C]

That shit.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you make it even first class. Like, first class back there.

[C]

First class, cool. But you gotta go through all the security that private.

[B]

You pulled right on up there.

[C]

Right on the plane. Right on it.

[B]

Where? Sit back.

[C]

They got.

[B]

They got food. They got whatever.

[C]

Probably come shake your hand. What's up, my nigga? How you feeling? You good?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Hell yeah.

[B]

Ain't nothing like that.

[C]

Ain't nothing like no private jet, boy.

[B]

Yeah, I need to come up. I might need to start telling. Huh?

[C]

Get you one.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I buy some shares. I ain't owning no shares.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I feel that.

[E]

Ooh.

[B]

I want no problem with that. Oh, guess what?

[C]

What's up?

[B]

Your airline went out. You used to fly Spirit.

[C]

Ooh, we said my airline. Like, I was, like, excited about that shit.

[B]

You used to fly.

[C]

How you gonna say your airline?

[B]

Yeah, your airline. I know it I know you kind of. See you. You just called me broken.

[C]

Hell, but your airline without a business, nigga. You know that, right? At least Frontier still around. Cam, you lucky, man.

[B]

But, hey, they having hard the gas price. The fuel price is going up, man.

[C]

Yeah, but I wasn't never. I mean, I was on. I ain't knocking nobody else on.

[B]

Ocho used to fly Spirit, man.

[C]

I got me and Ocho beefing.

[B]

When you Ocho beefing?

[C]

I meant to tell you this shit. I meant to bring that shit up. What happened, man, we was in the Big three A celebrity game.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he pulled me out. I wasn't doing great, but he pulled me out of the game. And this nigga talking about we getting the huddle. And she gonna be like, hey, coach, let me tell you something, Coach, I just want to play defense. We played basketball. Yeah, this nigga just wanted to play defense. Pulled me out of the game to play defense. We playing basketball.

[B]

Yeah, you. Hey, the only thing.

[C]

You hear what I'm saying, though, he

[B]

wanna play just defense.

[C]

He said, I only wanna play defense. That's not how the game work, boss.

[B]

You gotta do both.

[C]

You gotta do both. That shit pissed me the fuck off, man. He tell him I said that shit, too. I love everybody, though. I hope he do. I wouldn't say also, though, he gonna have a good rebuttal. Cause I went over like 12, but still.

[B]

Yeah, it seemed like you were playing yourself.

[C]

Real shit. They look at what they say. I was with them. But that don't goddamn matter though.

[B]

So how many points did he score?

[C]

He probably had four. He was playing defense.

[B]

Did you score any points?

[C]

I don't wanna talk about that.

[B]

You ain't scoring nothing.

[C]

You don't gotta discuss that.

[B]

You ain't to make a free throw.

[C]

You ain't get five. I went in long enough.

[B]

Hold up. You got up 12 shots.

[C]

I was showered, chucking that motherfucker. I was.

[B]

But you played basketball.

[C]

I did. You know, the problem is. It's the issue. It's the issue. I'm gonna tell you this right now. See, when I'm hooping.

[B]

When I'm hooping, yeah.

[C]

If the first shot go in, it's over. I'm.

[B]

Oh, I'm hot.

[C]

Well, I'm lit.

[B]

What if it don't?

[C]

But if it don't, it's gonna be a long day. It's gonna be a long day. And also, my dog told me the funny. She was like, yeah, but it makes sense that that shot ain't gonna end. Cause the first shot like rammed out. If I get hot. I'm talking shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Nah, it's too many. It was too many legends out there for me to beat. I'd have said some shit.

[B]

What if you'd hit a three? What if you hit a three? It'd have been over. Huh?

[C]

It would have been over. Ita been bad. I'm telling. I'm light. I'm not ass.

[B]

Nah, you went over 12. How can you say that? You scored no points. Shh. You know, people would draw the conclusion that you're not very good at basketball.

[C]

Oh, well, for Teller. Come play me. Tell her. Come play me. I'm like that. For real. Everybody. Everybody had Ochs one on one. I definitely would.

[B]

You could be Ocho. One on one, baby, I promise you.

[C]

I got a band on it.

[B]

You got a bad.

[C]

On me. I got a band on me.

[B]

A band. Yeah, Ocho. You and Ocho, one on one.

[A]

He

[C]

and I mean that.

[B]

Ocho, you hear this?

[C]

He shoot. I'm like that.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Tell him. He gonna see it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He don't wanna play me. He don't wanna play me. Oh, he don't wanna play me.

[B]

He don't wanna play you.

[C]

He don't wanna play me.

[B]

Oh, he gonna play. He'll play you for a band.

[C]

Yeah, let's do it. He shoot.

[B]

You gonna take a bag up off him?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You think you really beat him? For real, though.

[C]

Look me in my face like I'm bull sitting.

[B]

Nah, it look like that.

[C]

I had one off day and I'm just ass on. I could have one off day. I was just off.

[B]

You just off day.

[C]

I was flying around a lot. I got a lot of excuses for this.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I got a whole bunch of excuses for this. I fly around a lot of shit. It was a lot.

[B]

Right? But when you look at your life right now as we sit here today, compared to where you came from, you mentioned the time that you staying with your cousin and the roaches and you look at flying spirit and there's nothing wrong flying with spirit.

[C]

Not at all.

[B]

Everybody has to start from. Somebody got to start. There's a starting line. No matter what you do in life, there is a starting line. The destination is where we're trying to get to. Hopefully we enjoy the journey along the way, but the destination is the destination. And you sit back and you're like, damn, five years. Are you farther along than you thought you would be or not as far as you thought you'd be or right where you thought you'd be.

[C]

I thought I'd be somewhere around here. I thought I'd be somewhere around here. But every time I look back, I just keep telling myself like, man, it's just getting started.

[B]

Right?

[C]

You know what I'm saying? I had to sit back and I'm telling you. Cause every bit of comic that you had on this, I probably like Real Deal. I think I'm probably the youngest in the game that you probably had on so far.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

You feel what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah. I think sometimes we don't realize that you're like, damn, damn, I ain't going as far. But then when you look back, you don't realize how far you've actually come 100%.

[C]

And I've come a long way. Don't get me wrong. Like, I know I've come a long way, but it's just like, I truly just feel like I'm just getting started. You feel me? So it's like every time I look back, I close my eyes and I just go, oh, man. It's like what I'm doing is dope, but it's the beginning, right?

[E]

Hey, sweetie.

[C]

Your mother showed me this Carvana thing for selling the car. I'm gonna give it a try. Wish me luck.

[F]

Me again.

[C]

I put in the license plate. It gave me an offer. Unbelievable. Okay, I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway. I haven't even left my chair. It's done. The car is gone. I'm holding a check. Anyway, Carvana, give it a whirl.

[B]

Love ya.

[A]

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[E]

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[D]

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[C]

And our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

[D]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[D]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Julius Randle, and then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night to night basis on offense.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

So listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[F]

You said to me, yo, you know, keep at it cause you let me rap for you. It was magical for all of us.

[C]

They go, ah, we made it, we made it. I'm like, we, you know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you?

[F]

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[C]

Let me think.

[B]

Did you walk up to the gate?

[F]

That was me, D. That was you? That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hip Factory. The mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyling and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping and then suddenly I hear a voice.

[C]

Hey, open the gate. Let him in.

[F]

The gate slowly went. They all, they watching this and they watch me walk into there. And that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen. And last but not least, with McGin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts here's something

[A]

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[B]

As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

[C]

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[A]

I'm Akilah Hughes and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.

[C]

We are more than our bodies.

[B]

We contain essence.

[C]

We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching.

[A]

You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

You grew up in Florida? What part of Florida are you from?

[A]

Orlando.

[C]

West side. Orlando.

[B]

Orlando, yeah.

[C]

Grew up in Pine Hills. No coy.

[B]

Okay. What high school you go to?

[C]

Okoy High School.

[B]

Y' all not good, huh?

[C]

I wasn't great.

[B]

Are they good now?

[C]

They getting better. They figured it out.

[B]

Oh, you gave them. You drop a little bag on them. They gotta.

[C]

I'm going to. I'm trying to. Our girls basketball team was good.

[B]

They were.

[C]

Yeah. My ope coach, the girl, the head. The head coach of the basketball team. Now, they went to like. They went to like, what? They went to Final Four, pops. They went to the final fold in high school. They did good.

[B]

Damn.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm gonna come through there, try to, you know, saying, do something for.

[B]

Get em New Jersey to get em some shoes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Boys basketball team, they gotta figure it out. I'm helpin them boys out too. I help them out too, dude.

[B]

So what was it like, what was it like for you growing up on the west side of Orlando when you.

[C]

I went back and forth with my daddy. He hate when I say that. He stayed like hood adjacent and my mama stayed in the suburbs. So I had a good mix of both.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? I got to see a lot of you. Feel me?

[B]

Yeah. So you like, you go to your dad house, you had friends over there. You do what you did. You went to your mom, you had friends over There.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Do what you did.

[C]

And here's the thing, too. Like, that's when I said when I think I was. When I got out of high school, that's why I said I think I was so lost. I was still just trying to find myself as, like, a person. You feel me? Cause going back and forth like that is just very young. It's like a situation where you don't even know who you want to be.

[B]

Right.

[C]

You feel me? And then when basketball ended, I was lost.

[B]

You got brothers and sisters?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You the oldest. Where you falling?

[C]

I'm in the middle, so it's two ahead of me and two younger than me.

[B]

Okay. You see? Smack dab in the middle, bro.

[C]

Right in the middle. Hell, yeah. I got an older brother, older sister, and two little sisters.

[B]

Two. Two little. So that's why you want five. Now it makes sense.

[C]

Oh, now you seeing it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, hold on. I'm like, how you trying to go from two to five? Two is two. Yeah.

[C]

I'm part of five. Yeah. I want a five. I want a. I want a five. Yeah.

[B]

You got nieces and nephews?

[C]

Yeah. Nieces and nephew, huh?

[B]

What type of uncle are you?

[C]

I'm a good uncle.

[B]

You be getting them all kind of stuff, though.

[C]

That's the only plan, boy.

[B]

Don't give him that.

[C]

Why?

[B]

I know that's what you tell him. Take this.

[C]

Don't say nothing.

[B]

Don't even say it came from you. So when you was in high school, you was in high school. Were you a class clown in high school?

[C]

Yeah, I was a problem.

[B]

What you did. So did the teachers call your dad, say, Mr. Patterson, you got it.

[C]

Okay. One of my favorite stories. So I was in middle school. I was in middle school. They called me in the office of bullying. I don't think I really bullying nobody, but they called me off for bullying.

[B]

Right, Right.

[C]

So I get to the office, and then she say, we're gonna call one of your parents. And I was like, just please, like, whatever you do, please don't call my father. Just don't call my father.

[B]

Right?

[C]

And she was like, I'm calling your dad. That's what I wanted to do. Cause my mama went through disciplinarian. You know what I'm saying? It was the plan. It was the plan, right? So she called my daddy. She called my daddy, and she go. She go. His son to help bullying people. Da, da, da. We want you to come get him from school. Da. This and that. And then he tell her. He said, put me on speaker real quick. And then she put him on speaker, and then he go, hey, K, stand up. I stood up, and in middle school, I was like 5:2, maybe 95 pounds, soaking wet. Stand up. He go, who the hell he bullying? You see him? Who the hell he bullying? The fuck wrong with you? Then he came and got me.

[B]

Did y' all roll around? Probably got where he got milkshake hung out.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Chill.

[B]

Did your mama find out?

[C]

Not in that situation. No, she ain't find out. My mama was. She ain't play. She ain't play around. She wasn't with none of that shit. My daddy was chilling. He only hit me one time when I was in second grade. I think my best friend was a girl. I think I punched her in the arm.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

I was in second grade, man. And then he came. They told my dad about it. He came, picked me up. We went and got food. They said, I heard you hit somebody in school today. Then one day, at one point, it was a sneak attack. He sneaker tapped me. Just picked me up and told me, never hit later. Never hit lady ever again in your life. And that was it.

[B]

That was it.

[C]

Yeah, that was it.

[B]

So your dad seemed like he your best friend.

[C]

I'm a dog, though.

[B]

Travel with you a lot?

[C]

Yeah, he always come with me.

[B]

Always.

[C]

Hell, yeah. He wouldn't let me go without him.

[B]

Your mom probably be feeling like, damn, I don't get to go nowhere.

[C]

Oh, trust me, she do. But it was a thing for a minute. I ain't want my mom to, like. I ain't want my mom to be around stuff. Cause, like, you know, it's a different life. It's a different. My dad's kind of like, yeah, he understand.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You feel me? But now I'm trying to get my mama more involved and stuff. Cause she, like. She feel, like, left out. But I love my mama. She the best.

[B]

The girl that was on the baseball field that wanted to race. Did she beat you running?

[C]

Oh, man. Nah. Let me tell you the story.

[B]

What had happened.

[C]

So it wasn't even like. She didn't even want to race me. For real, what she wanted to do, she was like. She was outside. We were young. We was, like, in middle school, but she was already.

[B]

Oh, at the side. She was fast.

[C]

She was fat fast.

[F]

Oh.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

So the thing was. So I was like. I was a naive kid.

[B]

She was fast, but you was slow.

[C]

I was slow as hell. You get it?

[D]

There you go.

[C]

That was Good. That was good, though. That was good. I ain't know. That was good, though. That was good. Now I look on some real shit. My stepmom was like, this girl. She was going around. Da da. She was doing all the other stuff. Everybody be like, man, she knows she fast. You know she fast. She fast as hell. And I ain't know what that means.

[B]

Yeah, you ain't know what it means.

[C]

I ain't know what that means. So one day she was like, meet me back, you know what I'm saying? Behind the baseball field. I want to show you something.

[B]

What?

[C]

I was like, oh, this ain't gonna

[B]

beat me in no race.

[C]

She think she faster than me. She was trying to suck my dick. I beat that bitch already about four times. Yeah, about four times. Never got my dick sucked. Never.

[B]

How long did it take you to. So y' all was. You were probably out of school before you realized what she was trying to do. She was trying to get you. Oh, no.

[C]

When I was in ninth grade, I figured it out. You ain't like, two years later. I tried.

[B]

You ain't spit about it.

[C]

It was too late. It was too late. She was already mad at me. I made that bitch run four times. I made that bitch run track when she was trying to suck dead dog. It was old.

[B]

She looked. She look good back.

[C]

I mean. I mean, you know, it was in seventh grade. I mean, for then. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I'm glad you passed up. You weren't supposed to do that.

[C]

That was crazy.

[B]

But, I mean, you know, you wasn't supposed to do that.

[C]

Why? Mm.

[B]

Mm. Nah, nah, nah. So were you probably with the girls back in school?

[C]

Ah, 50. 50? Yeah. Like, kinda make them laugh, huh? I was funny. I was just. But I was also like. But I was also like a. I was a pro. I'm telling you. I was a problem.

[B]

You had nice clothes. Your mom and dad had you outfitted, so you was nice.

[C]

I couldn't really dress, for real. I wasn't big on dressing. I wasn't like, kind of like the. Like, just athletic shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You feel me? I ain't really start. I mean, I had some shit going on in high school and shit, but I ain't really growing to my own. Till, like, I got out okay.

[B]

Yeah. And then.

[C]

And then I was outside.

[B]

That was a problem.

[C]

That was a real issue.

[B]

So you didn't. So you really didn't partake in the girls in high school like you could have or maybe should have?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now you done made up for lost Time. So now you settle down. So I'm good now. I was outside. I was outside for about three or four years. Now I got somebody, baby settled out.

[C]

Right now I'm figuring it out for sure.

[B]

Your family done met her? Yeah, yeah, they cool. They cool.

[C]

What if they love?

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, I like that. They low,

[B]

but school. So how were you academically in school?

[C]

I was good when it was basketball season.

[B]

You know, basketball is really not a subject.

[C]

I'm just saying basketball season would happen.

[B]

Oh, so now you'd apply yourself. Cause you wanted to play basketball when

[C]

it was over, boy, I was a tornado.

[B]

So in class, when they call you to read or they call you to come to the board, did you get nervous? Did you get anxious? What was it about? Being. Because you're in front of people? Yeah, you do that now with no problem.

[C]

I can be funny. It's just like. I don't know. Growing up, I was just not. I was never dumb, but I just never liked school.

[B]

I was never like, oh, you didn't like school? That's what it was.

[C]

I just never liked.

[B]

I could apply yourself, huh?

[C]

Yeah, I just never liked school.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I'm not. No. Damn it. But it's like, you know, when you

[B]

doing something, you gotta apply yourself, though.

[C]

You feel me? You gotta want to do it. And if I ain't want to do it, it wasn't gonna happen.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But if I want to do it, I get it done right. You feel me?

[B]

But you know the girls in class.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

See, you know you doing. You doing answering the questions.

[C]

Out they call. And they liked it. Yeah, they really enjoyed that. My dogs got all them. Then they got all the girls. Then they did a good job. Then I. Then I just. I went and did what I did

[B]

right Now, A kid was banned from prom in graduation, proposing a video of a classmate struggling to read. That sound like something you would do?

[C]

I mean, I was gonna say. I mean, shit, he probably did that. Cause he can't read good himself. Yeah, that probably got me up.

[B]

But I think the thing is, like,

[C]

oh, I seen that video. He was doing it with the whole school. It was like the little. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, that's just funny. But it's like, no, they be cool.

[B]

Schools be doing just.

[C]

The school got mad at him. Cause they exposed they ass. That's y' all fault. Yeah, y' all are reading. These little niggas right here. It's they fault. Now they gonna try to get him in trouble for that shit. That's not his fault. Cause they couldn't say it.

[D]

Squid.

[C]

That's a hard word. Yeah, squid is tough. You ever seen the squizzing on paper? You ever seen it on paper?

[B]

I've seen it on paper.

[E]

Shit.

[B]

But kids are kid. I mean, how I'm. Kids are kids. I remember I was in third grade and I had a. I always talk with a lisp. I still have it. I would have a heavy Southern colloquial. And we were in the speech class and the lady. Speech lady told us, look, we want everybody to go read today. We're gonna read out loud, and if they get to a word that they can't pronounce, we're gonna let them sound it out. But we're not gonna help them. I'm going to help them. Cause you know kids, we know the word. We gonna say it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And so it came his time to read, and she's like, okay, it sounds like. It sounds like. I said, it sounds like Johnny can't read.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

That what it sounded like.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

You keep saying it sound like.

[C]

It sound like he don't know what

[B]

the fuck going on exactly.

[C]

Sound like he lost.

[B]

So she put me outside, told me to go outside and don't come back in until I apologize. And I know how to, you know, talk to people. I was like, okay, I was outside about two weeks.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

But I knew how to talk to people, but, you know, it sounded like he couldn't read.

[C]

When I was in second grade, I couldn't spell firefighters. I was having trouble playing five. So my teacher bring my dad in, she go, Mister, Mr. Patterson. His son's having. The only problem with Cam right now is he can't get the word firefighter down. That's like a big one for him.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then my dad go, boy can't spell five that shit. Easy, boy. F I. That's a hard word for a second grader, ma'.

[A]

Am.

[C]

That's a hard ass word for a second grader. He need that shit.

[B]

Tough there.

[C]

It's tough.

[B]

You like, Dad, I got this one.

[C]

Really? Shit.

[B]

You've been. How tall are you? 5, 5, 5, 6.

[C]

Wait a minute. Wait a goddamn minute. Hold up now.

[B]

He short as hell. 5 10.

[C]

I'm 5, 5, 8. 5. I'm 5, 9. What? Who the made that noise? I'm 5 9.

[B]

I don't know, Cam.

[F]

What?

[B]

So if you 5, 9 right now at 27, probably when you was like 13, 14, you might have been what, 5, 2, 5, 3.

[C]

Shit, probably like 45 1. I was little. Damn. Yeah. What, you would.

[B]

Maybe 100 pounds, huh?

[C]

Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't a big guy, man.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

See, I see why it hard, you know? Cause you know it's hard, you know, you 5, 100 pound.

[C]

What?

[B]

We knew women like that.

[C]

Fuck you doing all this shit for all you got. Now, fuck that mean?

[B]

But I was small, too.

[C]

Who When?

[B]

Me.

[C]

When you came out?

[B]

No, a freshman in high school.

[C]

How tall? How big? How high? How big you was?

[B]

You ain't gonna believe it.

[C]

What? What?

[B]

5'5,132.

[C]

Ain't nowhere in here, boy.

[B]

You prayed hard. Then as a sophomore, I went to.

[C]

Geez, Lord, I can't.

[B]

Sophomore. I was 5' 7, 155. So I didn't really start growing'til like, my junior year. I was like 168, 170.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I graduated high school, like 180.

[C]

Did you get. And you got. You got bigger than that.

[B]

Once I got to college and I started lifting, I can get three good meals. Three solid meals every single day.

[C]

It's real boosted. My cousin was like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

My cousin was like on his driver's license right now. He said he five. Five.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

And he. He hit it at the high school. I think he like six two now.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Six two? Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[B]

That could've happened to you, huh?

[C]

Hell, no. I wouldn't be on this couch. I'd be in jail or something, man. I had too much confidence. I couldn't be a big dude, man. I'd be a problem. I tried to rob bank. No gun.

[B]

Come on, man.

[C]

Too much confidence. Hey. Too much confidence.

[B]

You know they got that surgery. You see that guy?

[C]

I ain't doing no shit like that

[B]

one guy had that surgery for what, $180,000? That man grew six inches.

[C]

That's not a lot of inches, bro.

[B]

You be six foot tall.

[C]

Oh, good. I'm all right.

[B]

I'm decent, actually, you be six one, you say you five now.

[C]

I'm all right. I'm okay.

[B]

11, six one, man, you be my height.

[C]

You kind of real slow, huh?

[B]

Yeah, because you know that.

[C]

That.

[B]

That 12 throw, y'. All. That 12 throw y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

People be saying, oh, he five 12, bro. That's six foot.

[C]

That's funny. Who the hell is that? They need help. Everybody said shit like, they need real

[B]

help, because that's what you got to see. Hey, the 12, that's a. That's a whole. That's a foot. 12 inches is the foot. See Cab you.

[C]

I'm agreeing with you.

[B]

Your siblings, are they big? Are they your dad? The dad's a family.

[C]

My dad by six. Three years. My dad sit three.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

My mama little.

[B]

Oh,

[C]

Got me.

[B]

So you got her genes?

[C]

Yeah, my sister. My mama said she's six one.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not happy about it. I'm not happy about it. She younger than me, too.

[B]

She younger than you?

[C]

I'm 27. She 26. Fucked up.

[B]

Ain't him. She's 6:1.

[C]

Fucked up.

[B]

Yeah. You couldn't be 6:1.

[C]

I couldn't. I'd have been a. I'm telling you, like, I would have believed in myself too much. Yeah, I like where I'm at right now. I'm good where I'm at right now. Done figured it out. I figured my height out.

[B]

You done got you.

[C]

I done got used to it. I'm chilling.

[B]

I'm good. Hold up. You tried to be a thug.

[C]

I tried. I was terrible at it.

[B]

What happened?

[C]

I was. I mean, I'm not.

[D]

I ain't.

[C]

I'm gonna say this in the middle and like, man, I was a. Like, for real. Respectful. I'm a real nigga. I get shit done. You feel what I'm saying? But I just, like. I just got a heart. I feel for people. You feel what I'm saying? I got empathy and shit like that. I was around.

[B]

You a thug. You can't have no empathy.

[C]

You can't have no empathy. You can't smile. No smile. No dancing, none of that shit. You can't smile. Laugh.

[B]

Yeah. If you try to run down on somebody like that.

[C]

You feel what I'm saying?

[B]

Can't do this. Oh, boy.

[C]

Can't rob a n that say sorry. He gonna rob a nigga that apologize. I was nervous.

[B]

Your car got shot up.

[C]

I'm talking shit.

[B]

God damn, Cam.

[C]

I had a living foul, huh? I was running around for a second now, but it wasn't like, you know, man. You know.

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[B]

Florida rappers who you give me your Mount Rushmore Florida rappers.

[C]

Florida rapper Kodak President. He's president Kodak. Kodak Rideway.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

How much I'm out. How much the. How many on rap? Four, five.

[B]

Yeah. Mount Rushmore got four heads.

[C]

I ain't never been there. I ain't never been there. I didn't know. I know how many heads. I ain't never been to Mount Rushmore. You ever been up?

[B]

No, but I head in history. I just know that Mount Rushmore has four heads on it.

[C]

It mixed me up sometime. I don't know. 4, 5. So what I got, I got.

[B]

You got Rod wave. You got Kodak.

[C]

Yeah. Hot boy.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

He from Orlando. Hot boy. One move.

[D]

Damn.

[C]

Oh, oh. Hurricane Wisdom. Damn. He a new guy. He followed Hurricane Wisdom 5. You know by that you know who he is? I don't listen to him. You like rap?

[B]

I listen to a little bit. I like boss man Dlo.

[C]

Boss man D5. He hard, too. If it was five, I put him up there for sure.

[B]

But what about what you call her? You ain't got Uncle Luke.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Good for money.

[C]

I'm proud of him.

[B]

What about Dochi?

[C]

Dochi, great.

[B]

What about Trina?

[C]

She great.

[B]

They ain't on that.

[E]

They ain't?

[C]

Not for me. I love those. Don't you? Look. Hey, look, she also. Don't she look good, too? I'm glad you brought her up.

[B]

Who that? Don't you.

[C]

Yeah, she look good, bro.

[B]

What, you can't shoot no shot at everybody. You just shooting everything.

[C]

Well, if I can, I will if they let me. She look real good old lady, though, bro. Hey, man, you mind your business? You mind your goddamn business over there. Then try to tell America.

[B]

Hold on, man. The Florida rapper, the real boss to Richie. You see his ex girlfriend, what she saying?

[C]

What she say? Oh, you talking about the.

[B]

Yeah, Help me understand.

[C]

Nigga like to get paid.

[B]

Help me understand this. You know, if you do something foul sideways like that, and if you ever go. If it ever goes awry in a relationship, you know they gonna tell it.

[C]

Hey, let me tell you something. I don't know. I ain't shit. I ain't.

[B]

You ain't got nothing going on like that. Cause your old lady go. She get mad at you, she gonna tell it.

[C]

I ain't doing no shit like that, though.

[B]

I'm just saying.

[C]

I ain't signed to see no dildo on no group chat. Oh, but get here right now. I seen.

[D]

I'm just saying.

[C]

I'm just saying. Hey, listen. She could be lying.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, she could be lying. You don't never know. She could be. She could say that out of spite, you know, AI Real and shit like that.

[B]

But you know what, you feel me?

[C]

But I mean, I don't know.

[B]

Please don't make no stuff up there like that about me.

[C]

Huh? That's all it is.

[B]

Don't make that.

[C]

I mean, you know, they.

[B]

You can say I'm cheap outfit, nobody. I don't do.

[C]

If you make up and be like he like getting in the ass. Well, wait a minute. Calm down, please. Whoa. Why? I mean, if you like doing that hang out. That's so derogative. And we proud of you for that. Have a good time. Prerogative, prerogative. That's what I said, right?

[B]

Yeah. What'd I Say you said derogative.

[C]

Same thing.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

What is that? Is it different? Yeah, that's your prerogative. That's your prerogative. You like doing shit like that, bruh? Hang out. You feel me? But me personally, it's not really.

[B]

You feel me going down like that? I'm good.

[C]

I'm chilling.

[B]

You get back to Florida much?

[C]

I try to.

[B]

You do?

[C]

I try to.

[B]

So where's home for you?

[C]

Orlando. Orlando. And I go to my.

[B]

That's Florida.

[C]

That what I said. I said I tried to get home. What the.

[B]

I thought you lived somewhere. I thought you lived like, Austin or you lived in.

[C]

I live in New York right now.

[B]

Oh, you live in New York?

[C]

I live in New York, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But I said I try to get back home as much as possible. Yeah, for sure. I love Orlando.

[B]

What you like so much about New York?

[C]

New York is cool. I'm stand up. Cause you stand up a lot. Yeah, but what about.

[B]

Why not LA?

[C]

LA's cool. But you can't. I mean, you just can't really run around as much as you want to. Right? And I mean, you know what I'm saying? As in New York and LA is like, it's kind of spread out. You probably get like 3, 4.

[B]

Yeah, it's real spread out.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? If you run it. But in New York, on a good night, like, if I'm really running, I can get like eight shows in one night.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Hell, yeah. I'm doing like the Cellar. Hell, yeah. And run a couple other clubs, for sure.

[B]

So how long to set? 10 minutes, 15 minutes?

[C]

15. 15, 20? Little 15. Maybe 12.

[B]

So you do. So you. So you do a set, boom out to another club, right?

[C]

Immediately. Yeah.

[B]

Boom to another one.

[C]

Yeah, the seller got a set up where you can kind of go all. You can kind of like you can hear about all these stages, right? You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Throughout the night. Yeah.

[B]

You grinding like that?

[C]

Got to. I got to. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to be like the guys you was naming. I'm trying to be like them. I gotta put the work in. You feel me?

[B]

Yeah, but you know what? You cool. But I think we might have to annex Florida.

[C]

What you mean?

[B]

Y' all got too much going on down there.

[C]

We talking about annex, like, off the map.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

The. What's wrong with Florida? What we did to y'. All.

[B]

If some flaw stuff.

[C]

But if some break out, who y' all gonna call first if y' all need some help?

[B]

What you mean we ain't calling Florida? Who y' all gonna call? We annex y'. All.

[C]

Who y' all gonna call?

[B]

Put y' all on the aisle if

[C]

y' all need help. Who y' all gonna call? It's like a. It's a world.

[B]

Y' all be on some. Y' all be on some foul stuff.

[C]

Hey, okay. I'm gonna ask you a serious question. I'm asking a real serious question. Some shit go down, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you. You got your crew with you, right? Shit go down.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You want to go there with your. With your most mundane chill, or you want your crash out to be around,

[B]

but everybody can't be crash out.

[C]

I'm saying. I'm asking you a question. You want to go. You want to go to war with your mundane chill? We just happen to get. Or you want to crash out close? Everybody want to crash out close at some point, maybe a little bit. Yeah, but that's the only thing, like, everybody called. Not that crazy.

[B]

Yeah, they're crazy.

[C]

Oh, yeah, we crazy. Everybody was going on vacation. All that good, man.

[B]

Hey, I really. What does it mean, man? 32 eats woman's face. Oh, that's Florida.

[C]

Hey, that happened everywhere. That happened all over the country, man.

[B]

Why y' all like that, though, man? Why y' all be on some stuff, man?

[C]

It's. It's. It's. It's different sectors of Florida, all that shit going down there. It's not just. You know what I'm saying? All of Florida. I ain't never seen nobody get they face eight. I ain't never seen that.

[B]

You ever met Kodak?

[C]

Nah, I ain't meet Kodak yet. I want to, though. I tell you, he the president, man.

[B]

You did say that. You said Kodak is the president.

[C]

He's the president. I want to meet him for sure.

[B]

You can. You cam.

[C]

I will one day for sure.

[B]

You moved to Austin. So what did you like about Austin? Could you see yourself living in Austin at one point?

[C]

I thought about it. I thought about it for sure. I just, like. I just get up a lot. It's another thing where I can get up a lot. And it was. I was so new, so it was like. It was a place I could just go and get up immediately, right? Like, you know, I've never. My favorite. My favorite story about when I first got there, my homegirl Bianca ran a show, Black and Product. She ran a couple shows out there, and I was trying. I hit up also. Was booming at the time for newcomers. Still is, though. It was Like, I mean, right when I got there, it was like, it was getting ready to pop for real. Like, it was going. And it was a situation where I DMed everybody to try to get on shows, hitting up everybody trying to get on shows, and nobody really got back to me except for a couple people. One dude put me on this show at, like, this apartment complex, right? And I went to a. It was a. It was a club called Austin Comedy Club. I went there one night and I asked and said, hey, man, I was with my dad too. I say, hey, bro, I DM'd y'. All. Nobody hit me back. Is there any way I can get up tonight? Say, oh, it's the show full. I said, hey, bro, like, how about. I got. Listen, did you give me three minutes? If I don't do good any three minutes now, you would like me at a minute, but I. Just give me three minutes. Let me show you what I can do. He said, all right, it's full. Whatever. I go do this apartment show. I meet my dog Andre, and he hit me up. He said, well, at the same club, he was part owner of the club. He said, at the same exact club. Bianca was running the show that night. He said, well, go to that. I tell her that you funny. She'll give you some time. So I go up there. She love me. That's my dog, right? She said, you funny as hell. Come do my other show. Now this when I met my dog, Derrick Poston. So I come to her other show, and she was like, well, I didn't think Derrick was gonna make it on time. But if he don't make no time, give you all the time he had, which was 20 minutes, right? She said, but if he make it then, then it's just gonna be too late. I said, no, don't worry about it. And right when I was getting ready to go up, Derek showed up. This how cool, I think, well, Derek is to show. But the city in the hole. He goes up. He gets there and he goes. She goes, well, Cam, you know what I'm saying? Can't go. Cause you just got here. He goes, no, don't worry about it. Give him. Give me half my time.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

So I do te. He do teh. And he sat there, watched me. And they was like, we gotta take you through the ship. And it took me to the mothership off from then. You feel what I'm saying? And then after that, a couple other things happened. I got in at the ship for real, but it was like a situation where that's I think the nature of Austin comedy when I got there was like, bruh, if you funny, let's rock out. It was no other questions, right? It wasn't how long you been doing it or you funny.

[B]

Did you have roommates when you were in Austin?

[C]

Yeah. Liim dog, white cam at the house. It was four us. Cause I said, I got there. So I got there was this. I'm talking about this guy again. So I'm gonna tell you the whole Austin story. So I meet Uncle Lazer in Tampa, dude, uncle lazy on. He was on kill Tony. I meet him in Tampa, right? Me and my dad was sharing a car. Cause my uncle. My uncle herd RP uncle heard he. He was a crackhead. He stole my dad car, sold it for crack. Damn right. So it's gone. The car gone, right? Well, this before then. So we still got the car there, but the car not gonna make it to Miami. I had a show in Miami, but I couldn't. The car wasn't gonna make it.

[B]

Yeah, you wouldn't drive from Orlando to Miami.

[C]

But I could make it to Tampa, right? So I went to Tampa. I get on show Uncle Leslie, he tell me, hey man, you should come to. You gotta come to Austin. Nobody gonna find you here. I said, I bet. Bet that up. So I tell my dad about that. He said, all right, well, we'll go out there, try it out. Me and my dad went for seven days. I think over seven days. From. From. From Sunday to Monday. No, Sunday to. We left Tuesday morning. So we. We get there and it's just. It's me and my pops in a hotel room, just me and him. And we just started, like running. And then people started to figure out Batman and the club opened, then Austin opened. Oh, this is what I was talking about. I lost my train of thought. This is why I'm telling you this. So a long time ago, I did an open mic in Orlando. Dude named Camp Illick was there, right? He was a college student at University of Florida. Came up, do a show. I met him. Then I get in line for the mothership open mic, where it's like. It's random, you know what I'm saying? But it's the first one, so it's like maybe like 150 people lined up for the mic for like 15 spots, right? I get in line right behind Cam from. From Florida. And I don't remember him at first. He tell me about all the artists, da da da, whatever. And then as I remember who he is, we start running around that whole Week together. Like, he run around me the whole week. You know what I'm saying? Show me around, shit like that. By the end of the week, he go, hey, bro, if you want to move here, I got a room in my house and I can get you a job. You feel what I'm saying?

[B]

You like, hey. That's all I needed to hear.

[C]

That's all I needed. And so I went back and I told my dad. I was like, all right, so I'll come back. I'll go back to. We'll go back to Orlando, and I'll go back to Austin maybe, like, two months from now. My dad was like that. You quitting your job today? You going to Austin right now? And for the first couple months, I'll just pay your rent.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

That's why I moved in with them boys. And then my dad cut my rent for, like two months. And then after that, he was off.

[F]

We hid.

[C]

He was off and moving, ripping and running. But I called him White Cam. Cause when I got there, he was already Cameron. But I was also Cam, so they couldn't call me Black Cam. Yeah, that'd be crazy. So he had to be White Cam, right? You feel me?

[B]

Oh, so you had white roommates? Yeah, all of them was right. You used only black one?

[C]

No, like Argentinian or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

What's wrong with that? Why you said it like that?

[B]

What's wrong with that? I just misfeeding with you. I just messing with you now. So who cleaned up the crib?

[C]

Yeah, we kind of all. I think we was all pretty tight of people, so we kind of all kept the space pretty clean.

[B]

You're clean. You.

[C]

I try to be. I try not. Neat. Free. I ain't saying I need free, but I was living with people. I tried to be as clean as possible, you know what I'm saying? Not be no burden on nobody but your own place. That's pretty clean. I got. I mean, people clean up now. You feel me?

[B]

Oh, you got your own.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Okay.

[C]

That be a little dirty to call somebody. Make me a phone call.

[B]

The Drew Ski. You talked. We talked. We didn't talk too much about it. But Drew Ski in the white face. Yeah, you see. I mean, Drewski sketches. I mean, he goes, man, that nigga, is he.

[C]

I mean, when it come to that,

[B]

he the Goat, he killing it.

[C]

He's legendary Dog, man.

[B]

When he was that preacher, he legend.

[C]

I'm telling you, he legendary dog. Like Juice get a different level of I Mean, I know everybody come in and give him his flowers, but he is like, he like that, bruh.

[B]

And then Jake Paul, he did it wearing blackface.

[C]

He did that? Yeah, he did do it.

[B]

He wanted.

[C]

He wanted to do. Obviously I don't think he ended up

[B]

doing that, but I don't think he can do it.

[C]

Nah. Fuck no.

[B]

Because the meaning behind it, it's different.

[C]

Yeah, it's different shit, bruh. And that's why I think some people get me started on this shit, man. But you can't do no. What the.

[B]

Come on, man. What's your favorite social media platform? If you could only be on one social media platform, what are you choosing?

[C]

Probably Instagram. Yeah, probably ig. I don't be on Twitter like that. Before I really blew up, Twitter was only for porn. For me, respectfully, Twitter was only porn. I had to unfollow all my favorite porn stars. When I started popping, I was so sad. That was a really sad day for me. I was. I did not like that. D. I started blowing up. I said, I gotta get. I fall out. Probably like 80, 80 porn stars, you know.

[B]

You know your dad over there, right?

[C]

He got a problem too.

[B]

How your little pop business out there?

[C]

What the problem? We think the problem arise from Apple don't fall far from the tree got down. I had a real issue, boy.

[B]

Didn't I tell you about telling my business? What?

[C]

Nah, he like that shit. He know it.

[B]

Twitter, you said? What about YouTube? Don't you put YouTube cool.

[C]

I like YouTube. I thought I watch YouTube more like, like for videos and shit. I wouldn't call it like social media.

[B]

Right.

[C]

It's like, you know, say I put videos out and I like to watch videos on YouTube, but social media wise, it's like, you know, I think I like Instagram, Twitter, stuff like that.

[B]

You put a lot of stuff, a lot of your stuff on Instagram?

[C]

Yeah, a lot of stuff on ig. Hell yeah. Probably my biggest platform right now. That and TikTok. Try to get big on TikTok.

[B]

Trying to figure that out. Where would you. Is there a place that you haven't performed that you would like to perform?

[C]

I mean, the one for me right now in my mind, the Kids Center, Orlando.

[B]

You want to fuck the kids there?

[C]

Yeah, on what I ain't do yet. I mean, by myself. One day for sure. That's the idea.

[B]

You want a headline? So the Kia center msg.

[C]

Yeah, headline. Yeah, headline. Oh, yeah. One day.

[B]

Anywhere else. Where else you want a headline?

[C]

She know all the bigger ones. You Know what I'm saying? But also, I want to get out. I ain't leave the country.

[B]

You ain't left the country yet?

[C]

I ain't leave the country yet.

[B]

You wouldn't leave the country.

[C]

Yeah, Australia seem fun. Slot that way. Damn, shit like that.

[B]

What? What you give yourself a timeline? Nah, it was gonna happen when it

[C]

happened, when it happened, you know, I like that it's situation where, I mean, it's God's timing, man. I just try to just keep running forward.

[B]

Is there a state that you wouldn't perform in?

[C]

Nah, the state.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No.

[B]

So you go in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana,

[C]

wherever, and they put a mic in that bitch with some speakers and some people I beat a. You feel me?

[B]

You remember your first very stand. The first time you got on stage and told a joke? Do you remember it?

[C]

The first joke?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I had a old joke and I ended up using it for a minute too, right? Which was funny to me. It was an old joke where I was like, man, when I played basketball, I had a gay teammate. Had a teammate that came out as gay after the season ended, you know what I'm saying? And. And nobody had no problem with that. Hang out, live your life, you know what I'm saying? Respect everybody. But the situation where it was like, but yeah, man, you know, during the games, dude, I said, when you smack my ass, dude. Like, what kind of situation was that? Was that like a gay thing? Like a basketball thing? He was like, no, that was a basketball thing. I was like, but I didn't play. I didn't get in the game. And the first time I told that, I think it was about track. Cause I remember the dude I'm talking about, he ran a track with me in that situation. But then I started, you know, saying, changes to basketball later.

[B]

But you really had a gay teammate.

[C]

Oh, track.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. He was fast, quick.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Damn. What you like that, fool?

[B]

Damn. Hey, have you ever bought so you ever got? You ever told a joke? It ain't nobody laugh you like?

[C]

Yeah, I bomb all the time. I bomb now. Do you that go with it? Hell yeah. That come with it. That come with it. As much as I'm getting up.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And you gotta. I try. See, I say a lot of. You know what I'm saying? You trying stuff, I be trying stuff. That's when it's supposed to happen. But I think bombs for me are different. Okay, not an idea, but I just think like sometimes, like if I'm doing like a material and it's getting like, maybe like, 70%. That's a bomb in my mind. It's like, if I don't kill, like, bomb. If I don't think in my mind that I destroyed, then it's a bomb. Unless I'm trying new shit, then I give myself that grace.

[B]

You give yourself a bonus.

[C]

If I'm out there doing, like, my A material and I don't feel like I destroy it, then that's a bump. Damn, you gotta be great. You feel what I'm saying? You gotta shoot for greatness.

[B]

At least your dad's here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You speak such glory in terms. I feel that you feel that you're probably not where you are without your dad, without his blessing, without him, like. Look, son, you gonna do this right now. There is no tomorrow. You going today for sure. I got you. Till you get this thing figured out. He let you drive the car till you drove it, till the wheels came off that thing.

[C]

Man, I fucked that car up. He'll tell y' all that car up, dog. We both can't drive for shit neither. So that car was on both sides. That car had a problem. Every time somebody got in that. That car had a problem. That car had an issue, dawg.

[B]

When you talk about what is your dad. When you sit back and think about where you are and sometimes when you're alone, what does your dad mean to you?

[C]

Mean the world to me, man. I'm blessed to still have my father around with me all the time. Like, you know what I'm saying? Some people don't get that.

[B]

Right?

[C]

You feel me? And, I mean, it means the world to me.

[B]

Right?

[C]

I mean. I mean, it's such a dope thing, too, for him to be around to see, like, I just like making my parents proud.

[B]

Mm.

[C]

That makes me happy.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

The fact that both my parents could sit back and be like.

[B]

And get an opportunity to enjoy and see their son.

[C]

Yeah. My son ain't doing nothing crazy. My son, like, chasing something that mean, my man. My.

[B]

My son ain't doing nothing crazy no more.

[C]

Yeah. He already figured it out. You feel me?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

That's the best. That's like.

[B]

That's the best part. That is absolutely.

[C]

I remember. I never forget. I did. I did Chicago theater with Tony.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I remember he sold it out, and I got to open for him. And my dad said every show I do, he sit in the crowd, Okay, I can find him. I can look and I can see him. You know what I'm saying? I remember, like. I remember seeing him, and I remember getting off stage I remember, like, I don't really cry too often, but it was like, situations where I remember getting on stage, I run into him, be like, we doing it.

[B]

Box.

[C]

It was that and then going back to when I first got to Austin, the first mic I signed up for, I didn't get on the mic because, you know, they had to kind of

[B]

know who you was.

[C]

And I was just a random name on a list. Bunch of people by that. When that week was done, that next mic I signed up for, yeah, my name was on the list.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And I remember going to my dad, just be like, they know about us now, right? They done heard about us now. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, for him being there, like, every step of the way, it means the.

[B]

It means the world to you.

[C]

It means the world to me, man.

[B]

What's next? What's next for Cam Patterson? What can we expect?

[C]

I'm gonna just keep running. I'm just running as far as I can get. You feel me? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I wanna do stadiums and arenas and all that. All that good. That good stuff.

[B]

Right?

[C]

But if that's in the car, that will happen for me. That'll happen. So I guess that. But other than that, you know, movies,

[B]

I'm gonna do it all because you got one. 72 hour comes out.

[C]

Yeah. July 24th, you got more.

[B]

You want to do more movies?

[C]

Yeah, I want to be a movie star.

[B]

You want to be a movie star?

[C]

Yeah, you know it.

[B]

So you want. So you. So five years from now, ten years from now?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You gonna be. You wanna be Kevin? You wanna be Kevin Hart? You wanna be.

[C]

I wanna be where I put my mentors at.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You feel what I'm saying? I want a young Kevin.

[B]

So you wanna be somebody? You wanna be the light you want. When somebody look like, I wanna be Cam Patterson. Like, Cam Patterson wanted to be Eddie Murphy and wanted to be Kevin Hart. Wanted to be all the. I want to be Cam Patterson.

[C]

I want a kid to come on your couch and be like, I got to work with Cam Patterson this week. And that meant the world to me. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Same way I feel about Kel. Cause that shit meant the world to me. So that I wanted to be the same way for the next young nigga coming up or the next person to get around here.

[B]

You got anything you want to promote?

[C]

I mean, 72 hours come out July 24th. Hopefully you get to see my SNL next season. And other than that, my Instagram cancel funny. And TikTok canceled funny. All that good shit.

[B]

Where's your next standard? Where you at next?

[C]

Where we at next? When this come out? When does this come up?

[B]

In June.

[E]

June?

[C]

Where we at in June? Yeah, I said June. You talking about? It's on my website. Yeah, go to my website. Cam Patterson. CamSofunnity. Cam Patterson.com. cleveland, Springfield. Yeah, Cleveland Springfield. Melbournewood. Come see the kid, man.

[B]

Very funny. Cam Patterson, ladies and gentlemen.

[C]

Appreciate you, brother.

[B]

Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Thank you again, barbershop cucks and cocktail, for having us today. If you're ever in Las Vegas, make sure you find your way out and grab a cut behind an actual working barbershop for cocktails, live music, and a night you won't forget.

[C]

All my life Been grinding All my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life Look. All my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, wanna slice, got the rolling dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life.