Interviewer (2:24)

Charlotte Flair we had Charlotte Flair on earlier in September and she was talking about that she tore an ACL and she still finished. She had to wrestle another 30, 45 minutes.

Seth Rollins (2:32)

Yeah, I mean, that's probably an exaggeration on her behalf, but she did tear an ACL and have to finish her match.

Interviewer (2:38)

Yeah, but when you, when you hurt something or you, you, you tear an abductor or you pull a hamstring or something like that, and the match of schedule, you know, one fall for a 15 minute time limit. You know, they used to say that. I don't know how the time limits are now, but in a situation like that, when you know something is going on and you have to finish the match, that got to be difficult though.

Seth Rollins (2:57)

Yeah, I think it's one of those things where, gosh, you know, I'm trying to kind of like liken it to a football injury, but, you know, this plays.

Interviewer (3:07)

No, you get injured. You coming out the field. Yeah, yeah, you ain't no finishing that.

Seth Rollins (3:10)

You.

Interviewer (3:11)

It could be the first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, 2 minutes left.

Seth Rollins (3:14)

Yeah, I'm out of here. Yeah, you get, there's a play and you're gone. Yeah, it's done. It stops. That's the thing is with us, when we get hurt, like there's like a self evaluation process that happens. And because like, you know, I mean, NFL plays, what, seven seconds, something like that, Boom. You know, you know, it's like, oh, that's it. Now I'm evaluating. I'm gonna go to the sideline and evaluate. But we have to evaluate kind of in real time. Like we have to. It's not a sprint like that, it's a bit longer. So like if something happens, you know, my shoulder is a great example of that. So I, I'm wrestling Cody Rhodes in the main event of a pay per view in Perth, Australia in October. I do this move that I've never really done where I dive from one side of the ring to the other and give Cody a headbutt and I land funky. So I land like on my elbow kind of off to the side, pushes my shoulder up and it hurt, but I didn't know how bad it was hurt in the moment. So I hit him, I cover, he kicks out. I'm laying there and then I just run my self check while the audience is, you know, kind of, they're going through the replays and everything. We're moving on to the next thing, but you got to give the audience time to digest. So you're just sitting there like in the process, and I go, okay, I hurt my shoulder. How bad did I hurt my shoulder? Is there Anything left in the match that I can't do or that's going to be dangerous for me or dangerous for my opponent or that I'm going to make look bad, like, do I cut stuff out and we just go, let's get to the end of the match. What's the process here? And when it's like a kind of a, a ligament type injury like that, again, I didn't know what was wrong with it. I was like, okay, here's the things I can do. I probably got about 10 to 15 more minutes of this match. I'll get through it and then we'll figure out what happens. I'm not really going to know till I get a scan and I'm not putting Cody in any danger. So I think I can get this done. Now. There's some times where it's like you'll get a concussion or you'll see somebody get a concussion. Unfortunately not in this position. You get a concussion, the ref sees that happen and that's it, it's done. Like they just call the match off. Young fella named Javon Evans just had this happen to him like maybe two weeks ago on Monday Night Raw. He butted heads with his opponent. You know, he got concussed. There was a little bit of like, hey, hey, what's going on? They kind of let him walk through a little bit of the rest of the match while he was out there. And then it became apparent that he wasn't himself. Yeah, he wasn't himself. So they just. That's it. Winner by ref, stoppage. And that's it. And so it's just communication. Communicate to your referee, communicate to your opponent. You just try to figure out what the best course of action is. And again, when it's something like that, like a concussion where you can't self diagnose really because you're rock somebody. We have people in. Yeah, we have everybody watching to make sure. No, no, no, get him out of there. When it's something like that, where you can't. My shoulder or like Charlotte's knee or my knee as well, when you can't really see what's happening, you just have to rely on the talent to try to figure out what's best for the situation.

Interviewer (6:03)

In a situation where like you broke John Cena knows or something, you guys are wrestling and it's an accident, but you know, things happen.

Seth Rollins (6:12)

Yeah.

Interviewer (6:13)

Who is that said? I think they said it's called keeping receipts. When you do something, when you, when you do, when you do something to somebody that goes a little further than it should have been.

Seth Rollins (6:23)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are receipts. But receipts are generally for when things might be a little on purpose. The John thing was a complete accident.

Interviewer (6:30)

Okay.

Seth Rollins (6:30)

If, if, if. I mean, look, John's got ham hands. He's punched so many people on the side of the head, like, it's. You know, he understands sometimes things happen. You know, we say it's not, which, you know, no discredit to ballet. Ballet is hard.

Interviewer (6:44)

I could do it.

Seth Rollins (6:45)

But, yeah, it's not ballet. Like, it's a physical interaction. So things happen. And no, for the most part, there's not a lot of bad blood. But occasionally someone will get a stray shot in there where you're like, what was that all about?

Interviewer (7:02)

Was that intentional or. Yeah, I think it was intentional. I'm gonna pay your ass back.

Seth Rollins (7:07)

Yeah, yeah. But you. I mean, I'm sure on the field you have those too.

Interviewer (7:11)

Absolutely.

Seth Rollins (7:12)

Because there's, you know, it's, again, physical sport, and there's rules and there's, like, you know, competitive edge. And you guys are. I mean, how many DBs or linebackers did you get into where you're like, okay, that. That I ain't. I ain't cool.

Interviewer (7:24)

Yeah. Yeah. I know when there's a. A good, clean tackle. And you cheap shoted me.

Seth Rollins (7:28)

Exactly.

Interviewer (7:28)

Which in turn, I'm going to get your ass back in the course of a play, and I'm gonna make it look like a actual play. But I guess what, I know I'm gonna get mine. I. I will get my lick back.

Seth Rollins (7:36)

Yeah.

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Interviewer (7:36)

But you have a great relationship with John.

Seth Rollins (7:38)

I do.

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John.

Interviewer (7:39)

And. And John is. Is finishing up. He's done. But 48. You want to wrestle that long?

Seth Rollins (7:44)

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I mean, I'm. I'm 40 in a couple months, and I feel great. I'm in what I would consider the prime of my career where, like, the physical hasn't declined and the mental is as sharp as it's, you know, ever been.

Interviewer (7:58)

Right.

Seth Rollins (7:59)

And so I would. As long as I can continue to contribute in a way that's positive for our fan base and for our younger talent, as long as I can continue to be, like, make the product better, then I think I would like to contribute and my body cooperates, I would like to continue to do it.

Interviewer (8:19)

Who's your Mount Rushmore? WWE Wrestlers.

Seth Rollins (8:22)

Mount Rushmore. Oh, man, that's so hard, because you get into this trap of, like, in ring talent, guys who are just great wrestlers, and then you get into, you know, money, right? Who drew the most money. So, like, if you want to talk like all time draws, you got to start with Hogan. You probably got to put Samm Martino on there, Stone Cold Steve Austin and likely the Rock. Yeah, that's probably your top four.

Interviewer (8:45)

Okay.

Seth Rollins (8:45)

You want to go like in ring all time, you're looking at Shawn Michaels, you're looking at Eddie Guerrero, you're looking at maybe. Oh, man, after that it gets real hard because, you know, Dynamite Kid was really good, but he was kind of a jerk. Bret Hart was really great.

Interviewer (9:08)

Flair said. Flair definitely had Hart and, and, and Shawn Michael didn't stop.

Seth Rollins (9:12)

And you could put Rick in there as well.

Interviewer (9:14)

Rick, nobody could talk like Flair.

Seth Rollins (9:15)

No, no, no. Flair was special. Dusty was a special.

Interviewer (9:18)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Seth Rollins (9:19)

But Dusty's in ring work wasn't like, you know, he wasn't blowing anybody out of the water. You know, Brian Danielson would be up there. I think, you know, I'd like to be in the conversation at some point. I think AJ Styles, who also just recently retired as someone who's one of the greatest of all time in the ring. So it's a fun discussion, but it's hard to narrow it down.

Interviewer (9:40)

Right? You call that the Rock? You want Rock to come back one last time? You get your shot at Rock?

Seth Rollins (9:47)

You know, maybe, man, I don't know. I don't know. I had such a Fun Time Wrestling DJ at WrestleMania a couple years ago in the tag match, a singles match would be a lot of fun with him if he'd be willing to do it. But yeah, the tag match was a blast and it was really cool to be out there in the main event of WrestleMania with the Rock. I mean, that's, that's a, that's a beyond bucket list. You know, you mentioned Sting earlier. Like, there's some guys that, when I was growing up watching, you just don't think you're ever going to get the opportunity to be in the ring with them. I think they're going to be retired by the time you're there. Sting's one of them. You know, I got to do promos with Jake the Snake and Roddy Piper. Got to, you know, be in the main event of WrestleMania with a rock. I mean, that's these, this is bonkers stuff, you know, So, I mean, Roddy.

Interviewer (10:30)

Piper you grew up watching, and Sting and all those guys you grew up watching Lex, Luke and.

Seth Rollins (10:35)

And crazy, dude. It's crazy that I get the opportunity to be in the ring with these guys. Whether it's a promo or match. Learn from Dusty Roads, you know, any. Anything like that. It's really, for me, as a kid growing up in Iowa, like, to be able to live those dreams and meet your heroes in. In those ways, like, it's really something special.

Interviewer (10:54)

You and CM Punk, y' all made up?

Seth Rollins (10:56)

No, I wouldn't say so.

Interviewer (10:59)

You wouldn't say so?

Seth Rollins (11:00)

I wouldn't say so. I mean, there's obviously some sort of working relationship. Otherwise, you know, we wouldn't be able to go out there and have matches. But there's just so much. It's so complex. I think maybe once we're both away from the business or retired or have hung it up, there might be an opportunity for reconciliation there. It's just so hard for me to separate the CM Punk that there is now from the CM Punk that was a really rotten friend to me 10 years ago. And so it's. It's just those. Those wounds take time to heal. I think whether or not he cares to make the effort to do that, and I care to care if he makes the effort to do that. I don't know. I don't know if we. Neither of us have the time for it at the moment.

Interviewer (11:50)

Have the company pulled you in said, look, guys, I understand there's some things going on between you two, but we run a business here. Y' all figure that ish out and keep it and keep it moving.

Seth Rollins (12:02)

No, there was never a time where the two of us were sat down and had a conversation like that. There were conversations had before he came back about whether or not it's something that I could be okay with. And, you know, he's back, so I. I always feel like if. If there's business to be done, that's bigger than me, that's bigger than my grievances. So, you know, at the end of the day, it's not my sandbox. I don't make those decisions. I think WWE would be just fine without CM Punk, but I do think there's a large portion of our fan base that is very happy that he is back.

Interviewer (12:47)

So you. So this happened before. This doesn't have anything to do with wrestling. This had to do with something outside of the ring.

Seth Rollins (12:54)

I mean, we know each other through wrestling. So when he. He's with wwe and he was. I knew him before that. I knew him when I first started wrestling because he's from Chicago, so I would go watch him on independent shows.

Interviewer (13:07)

Okay.

Seth Rollins (13:08)

I wanted to be trained by him when he ran a school back in 2004. Didn't have the money to do it was out in Philadelphia and I couldn't Living on a prayer.

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Seth Rollins (15:15)

Move out there didn't have any cash so you know. But I stayed in touch. I go watch him on shows I Was a fan of his. He knew my upbringing. He saw, you know, that we were kind of cut from the same cloth, and he was somewhat of a mentor to me when we got to wwe. And he also vouched for myself and Jon Moxley to be brought up from developmental to the main roster. So everything was good. He let me sleep on his couch. He let me ride his bus occasionally from time to time. He's a really good guy, and I would have done anything for him. And then he leaves the company and basically just completely ghosted. Like, just stopped being a friend. And I reached out to him multiple times to try to talk to him, and there was never any animosity between us. There was never, like, a falling out between the two of us. He just didn't like the fact that I stayed working for the company and.

Interviewer (16:12)

Well, you hold on. Just because you leave, am I. You think, although I got. I want to eat. I like my living style now. And so because you had a falling out, I'm supposed to have a falling out, too.

Seth Rollins (16:21)

I wasn't the only person that he felt this way about. He lost a lot of friendships over this.

Interviewer (16:26)

He get over.

Seth Rollins (16:26)

He did this on his own. And. And I think, you know, that would have been one thing. But then on the back end of that, he spent many, many, many years taking kind of potshots at what we were doing, what we were trying to do in WWE without him. And he. And look, when he left, he left a pretty significant void. He was. He was at the top. He was a top star, and we were trying to rebuild, and we didn't have a lot to work with. We were trying to make the thing great. And he took a lot of, you know, shots on podcasts and interviews at me and at people who were trying to do good things for the industry that he supposedly loved. And at that point, WWE was my home. And so when you starting to talk bad about my home and the people that I love and the people. I take that personally.

Interviewer (17:13)

Right?

Seth Rollins (17:13)

You know, how am I not? And because we were friends and you didn't want to talk to me about anything when you left, how am I supposed to not take that personally? You know? So, yeah, it was hard for me, and I did write you off, and I did say, you know, f you, like, I ain't got time for that, man. I ain't got time for people like you. You know, that negative energy, trying to tear down everything we're trying to build here. I ain't got time for that. And so it really, really Bo bothered me when he came back, because I go, dude, you were gone. We did this. We did this without you. Not only without you, but in spite of you. We did this in spite of you, but you tried to make this not happen, and now you want to come back and re.

Interviewer (17:49)

I want to be a part of it that you see.

Seth Rollins (17:51)

Yeah.

Interviewer (17:51)

Did you see? We didn't crumble without you.

Seth Rollins (17:53)

We didn't. We got better, and we got bigger, and everything is better now, and it had nothing to do with you. And so that was really hard for me. And like I said, it's just a lot to get over. And I think one literally, if he would have just replied one time to one text or one call and said, hey, man, I'm not ready yet, or, hey, man, it's not you. I just can't.

Interviewer (18:14)

I'm going through something.

Seth Rollins (18:16)

Just one time. Anything would have changed the whole narrative for me.

Interviewer (18:22)

You got an opportunity to wrestle Brock Lesnar. Who? The big He. He recently came back.

Seth Rollins (18:28)

Yes, sir.

Interviewer (18:31)

What's it like wrestling the big guys? Because obviously, you know, running into a guy that's too broad size or one of these big guys is different than running in somebody that's your size, because, I mean, you guys are really athletic. I mean, people talk about, oh, that. That's okay. I get it. It's scripted. But all that falling and all that tumbling and from 10, 15ft in the air, that takes a lot out of you, Seth.

Seth Rollins (18:52)

Yeah. I mean, I hear. The thing is, I love what one of the fun things about pro wrestling is. I love matchups.

Interviewer (18:58)

Yeah.

Seth Rollins (18:59)

You know, there are weight classes in ufc. There are weight classes in amateur wrestling. That's for a reason. Yes, that's for a reason. In our industry, if things go sideways, those big boys will crush you. There's nothing you can do about it. But I love the fact in wrestling, pro wrestling, that we don't have the weight classes that you get to see wild matchups that you never get to see anywhere else, that Seth Rollins can go toe to do with Brock Lesnar, that he can find a way to figure out the Beast, that he can use his strengths against Brock Lesnar's weaknesses, and you just don't get that anywhere else. You know, you don't get those kind of fairy tale matchups. Like, you don't get the Big show or Kane or Undertaker versus Rey Mysterio. You know, there's no other world where that exists. So it's this amazing, like, it's like a Marvel movie in real life where you get to see Thanos versus Thor, you know, or Thanos versus Spider man, you're like, oh, well, Thanos would crush him. But no, because Spider Man's got. He's got webs, and he's got his way of figuring it out. And that's what's fun about wrestling is when you see matchups and you see the tail of the tape, you go, wow, how is this guy going to figure it out? Or, oh, man, this big boy is going to. He's going to crush that little guy. Or, man, I can't wait to see these two giants collide. Or, man, I can't wait to see these two technical assassins just get it on. Or these two, like, awesome strikers slug it out, you know? So you get all of that with wrestling that you just don't get in any other form of sport. Especially.

Interviewer (20:28)

How would you have liked to wrestle? Rested Soul Andre the giant? Over seven foot tall, £500.

Seth Rollins (20:33)

That would have been great. That would have been great, man. It would have been. I mean, if you.

Interviewer (20:36)

You lifted him, you getting him off his feet.

Seth Rollins (20:38)

No, I mean, look, I'm pound for pound pretty strong, but those boys are. That's big dude. That's a big boy. You know what I mean? I'm have to trip him. That's how I get him down. I run him till he's tired and trip him.

Interviewer (20:50)

What NFL player, NBA player you think would be really good in wwe?

Seth Rollins (20:56)

Oh, man.

Interviewer (20:56)

George Kittle. Because he does.

Seth Rollins (20:58)

He.

Interviewer (20:58)

He does. So Kittle loves it. Yeah, absolutely. Kiddo could definitely do it.

Seth Rollins (21:02)

He loves it. You know, I. I think when he's retired, he's gonna come do at least one match.

Interviewer (21:06)

You think so?

Seth Rollins (21:07)

Dude, once. Once the Niners are like, all right, yeah, he's done with his playing career, and he's waiting for that hall of Fame. Like, he. Dude, no doubt about it. He's gonna come do one. I always. I, you know, I look at the big dudes, for sure. I look at, like. Like, Miles Garrett's one of my favorite. You know, just House and David and Joku again, like, just these house dudes, man. Trying to think if there's anybody else off the top of my head. That's really good. You know, I like DK Metcalf.

Interviewer (21:36)

Yeah.

Seth Rollins (21:36)

Like, DK is a freak athlete, you know, but he just got that building. He's got the look to him, too. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot of the reason the WWE likes to, like, recruit, you know, college athletes.

Interviewer (21:49)

Yes. Because y' all got ni. I saw. I think the WWE got an nil program.

Seth Rollins (21:53)

That's correct. We do have an nil program because.

Interviewer (21:55)

I saw like a couple of women shot putters and things like that. That's going to, once their career is over in collegiate, they're going to go.

Seth Rollins (22:04)

To the wwe, hopefully take a crack at it. Yeah, man. Go down to Orlando and see if they can develop a passion for it.

Interviewer (22:10)

So where are you on influencers or athletes coming into the wwe? We see Logan Paul did it, does it from. Occasionally we see McAfee, P. Mac comes in, I show speed, showed up in the ring a couple of times. So where are you on that? You okay with that?

Seth Rollins (22:27)

Yeah, I'm fine with it. I always feel like it's like, you know, I think it's, as a talent, it can be frustrating because you feel like, you know, if they're in a big spotlight, you know, you're like, ah, they're taking somebody's spot. Right? But at the end of the day, like, I mean this nicely. And I would say this to my, my younger self too. I'm like, that was never your spot that you weren't going to do. It wasn't going to have the same impact. The reason we are able to bring these influencers or actors or whomever into the, into the fray is to get new eyes on the product and that those new eyes, then they can find you, you know, otherwise they ain't going to find you, you know, so it's, it's a, it's. That's a tough lesson to learn, I think, as a young talent, because you want those opportunities. But yeah, I mean, I think it's great. And, you know, not all of them are like, Logan, Logan's a great example.

Interviewer (23:14)

No, Logan can really do this.

Seth Rollins (23:15)

He can do it. And he, he developed the passion for it quickly. I don't know that he thought, I don't know that he thought because he's, he's pretty much full time now. He's every week he's there and I don't know that he, when he first started that he thought that was what it is. Here's this fun thing I get to do. You know, he's all about making money and, and, and they're getting, he's getting paid and he gets to do this fun thing and it's kind of like fight adjacent, you know, this athletic, you know, nature to it. I think he got addicted to it. I think he got addicted to the process and like, when you get hooked that way, it's really hard to let it go. And so there's not a lot of him. You know, most of them are like a speed who gets in the rumble and gets murked by Bron Breaker, and then you don't want to come back. I was like, I'm good.

Interviewer (23:57)

Yeah, I'm good. I don't blame you. Rhonda Ronda. Ronda Rousey, obviously, she was in the ufc. She tried it. Are you surprised she didn't stay longer?

Seth Rollins (24:06)

No, not at all. It's hard. It's really hard. And what they were asking Rhonda to do is very difficult. The schedule was crazy still at that time. This is pre Covid. She comes in. She comes in 20, 18, 17, something like that. And at first, it's very easy and not. I don't mean this in a negative way, but everything's curated for her, so everything's choreographed. And, you know, she has one match every six months or something like that, and it gets well rehearsed, and that's fun. And you get to do wrestling that way, and that can be really fun, and. And that can be addicting for people. But that's not really what wrestling is. Wrestling is a bit of a grind.

Interviewer (24:45)

And you have a couple of times a week, huh?

Seth Rollins (24:47)

And you. It used to be five times a week. And you have to. You have to that. But that's how you learn your craft, you know. But if you're not used to that and you're coming in and it's not around his fault, you're coming in, and that's how you're presented. And then you have to work backwards. You have to work, you know, opposite of the way I did where I came up doing all that. And then I got to do the fun stuff at the end. That's easier because now it's like, oh, wow, wait, you tell me. I only have to wrestle 50 times a year. I used to do 250, you know, so this is nothing. When you go the other way, when it. That is a really hard thing to do. And she had other aspirations, you know, she wanted to be a mom. And it's really hard to be a mom and do our gig, especially when you want to have multiple kids. And, you know, she. Kudos to her. She traveled with her oldest daughter a lot, the same way myself and my wife did with our daughter. And that's a really difficult thing to do. And if you're not having fun and you don't love it, it's, It's. It does not surprise me that she was like, I need to get Away from this. And not to say she won't come back and give it another go, because she does have a talent for it, but it doesn't surprise me.

Interviewer (25:55)

Bad Bunny, who performed. Performed at the Super Bowl.

Seth Rollins (25:58)

Yes.

Interviewer (25:58)

Did you get that? You meet Bad Bunny?

Seth Rollins (26:00)

Oh, yeah. I met Benito multiple times because he. He has done a couple things for us from time to time. He had an absolutely wonderful match with Damian Priest in Puerto Rico a couple years back. He loves wrestling. That's. That's insane, by the way. I just want people to understand that it was a street fight. It was like a no holds bar, San Juan street fight. He's going through tables, getting beat with chairs, getting choked, slammed. This is the biggest artist in the world. This would have been like Michael Jackson in 1986 at WrestleMania. What are we talking about? That's crazy, dude. Could you imagine that? No. Like, Paul McCartney ain't getting in the ring. You know, that's crazy. So I. I have a ton of respect for Benito. He did not have to do that at all. What a stud. Like, I don't know any of his songs, but, dude, that. What a savage.

Interviewer (26:56)

You and Post Malone had some beef?

Seth Rollins (26:59)

Posty, he got up in my grill, man. He's cheering for punk and his wife over me and my wife. You can't be doing that. You know what I mean? I mean, come on now.

Interviewer (27:07)

That was rehearsing.

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No, I didn't even know he was there. I think he was there with Jelly Roll. They're in the crowd of Russell Palooza, which again, Indianapolis. A lot of history there. And I just saw him and he was like, booing or something like that. And I saw an opportunity and I took it. I ain't gonna let him. I ain't gonna let him dunk on me and my wife like that. Come on now, Postie.

Interviewer (27:29)

You good? Y' all good now though, right? You settled it. Damn. You don't let stuff go, Seth. Oh, you gotta let stuff go, Seth.

Seth Rollins (27:37)

I'm in the conflict business, man. I mean, there's no money to be made if everybody's.

Interviewer (27:42)

What about conflict?

Seth Rollins (27:44)

That's what it is. That's where we get paid.

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Seth Rollins (27:54)

That guy, from my understanding was. He was catfished by somebody pretending to be me. And he was not. He was. I don't want to, you know, be rude, but he was not all there. It was. There was something off about him. It felt like, for me, it felt like the wrong thing to do to try to get him incarcerated in any way, right? And he wasn't a person that had the means to pay for a big fine and go living in a prayer.

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Seth Rollins (30:27)

I ask the you know judicial system that contacted me I said, could we look into, please, getting this guy some help? Like, he's not. I'm. I'm lucky that he didn't bring anything to, you know.

Interviewer (30:41)

Right.

Seth Rollins (30:42)

Be particularly violent with. That's something that's, like, very scary in situations like that. But thankfully, we got on the other side of it, and you're able to look at it in its totality, like, okay, what's the best course of action here? And it's probably to try to help this guy if we can do that. So I was not able to follow up. I don't know. But what I do know is that I chose not to press charges for that reason. It didn't seem to me that that was gonna solve the problem.

Interviewer (31:10)

Goat couples, we got you and Becky Lynch. We got Randy. Randy Savage and Ms. Elizabeth.

Seth Rollins (31:16)

Okay.

Interviewer (31:16)

Edge and Beth Phoenix.

Seth Rollins (31:18)

Yep.

Interviewer (31:18)

Matt Harden, Leader Triple h, and Stephanie McMahon.

Seth Rollins (31:22)

That's. That's a good list. That's a good list right there. I mean, we're number one by a mile. But, yeah, Shout out to Edge and Beth. They're both great in the ring, but they don't have the accolades that myself and my wife have.

Interviewer (31:32)

Correct.

Seth Rollins (31:34)

Stephanie and Hunter.

Interviewer (31:35)

Did she just wrestle in WrestleMania?

Seth Rollins (31:37)

Who's that?

Interviewer (31:37)

Becky.

Seth Rollins (31:38)

Becky. She was at the Rumble.

Interviewer (31:41)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Seth Rollins (31:42)

Royal Rumble last week.

Interviewer (31:43)

Yeah.

Seth Rollins (31:43)

In Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Interviewer (31:45)

Did not Live, I think live.

Seth Rollins (31:46)

Live one.

Interviewer (31:47)

Yeah. Live.

Seth Rollins (31:47)

Won the Royal Rumble. Yeah. Yep. Becky has won the Rumble before. First woman in main event, WrestleMania.

Interviewer (31:51)

Right.

Seth Rollins (31:53)

And then myself. You read the accolades earlier. I mean, there's no. There's nobody on that list that's even close.

Interviewer (31:58)

Is it easier to date a woman that's in the business with you? Because a guy told me one time, he said, you understand why movie stars date other movie stars? I said, nah. Why? I said, they like each other.

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Interviewer (32:08)

He said, because the other. Know what it's like to live that life.

Seth Rollins (32:10)

Yes, yes. That part of it is very. That is very beneficial. It's not. It's something that's like, you know, you don't. You don't want to mix business with pleasure, because if it doesn't end well, you know, the risk.

Interviewer (32:23)

They still wrestle. You got to see each other.

Seth Rollins (32:24)

Yeah. It's hard. And then they date somebody else. You're dating somebody else. It's. It's not fun. Like, that's just not a fun thing. So you do try to avoid it, but when you find somebody. And Becky and I were friends for years before we started dating. When you find somebody who gets it and understands what you're doing and you go through the same things. It's so much easier. And because our business and our industry is so strange and so weird, like just asking regular people who do regular jobs to understand it is, it is, it can be a tall task.

Interviewer (32:57)

Especially when you're starting out because you're saying you're wrestling three to five times a week, so you're gone. So basically 45, 45, 47 weeks out of the year, you're on the road.

Seth Rollins (33:06)

We would be at 300 days a year for sure. Easy, easy with the travel and the media. Yeah, I'd wrestle like my, my, my craziest years. I would wrestle probably close to 215 matches. A. And that's not including the travel days. Like we would leave Friday morning from my little town in Iowa. I'd go and I'd do non televised events Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I would do Monday TV raw, which was live. Then we would tape Smackdown at the time on Tuesday. And then I would fly home Wednesday morning and I would leave Friday morning every week for years. Yeah, and that's like a good week. That's like a normal week. I'd have that 36 hours at home, essentially. Like we would have tours that were, you know, would take us away for months at a time. It was, it was. I mean, there's no chance to have a proper relationship in that situation.

Interviewer (33:58)

I read in doing this research on you, you were open to being in a poly relationship. How did, how did Becky come along and completely change your mind? You're like, you know what? I'm, you know, I thought I wanted poly, but I'm good with you.

Seth Rollins (34:13)

Just one. What, what, What I really needed was to be single. That's what I needed. That's what I needed. I was a serial monogamist for my whole adult life and I just needed to. Hey, you're okay being by yourself, dude. Just, you're fine. You just need to figure it out. I mean, I was from 19 until I like, I mean, when did me and Becky started dating? It would been 19, so six years ago. So like I was 34. So like 15 years. I was just in relationship after relationship with like this much break in between. So I never really got comfortable being by myself. Got comfortable and that's what I needed. But I was like at the end of my last relationship before I started dating her, I was like, all right, I'm just not cut out for monogamy. I'm not cut out for being in a relationship. I just need. Maybe, maybe it's like, I can just do, like, I can be in a relationship, but, you know, maybe like, some be in that relationship and not really be in that relationship. You know what? I just needed to be single. And I just didn't know how to process at all. So I'm probably like intaking too much information, reading too much about it, thinking too much about it. And the bottom line was either A, I needed to be single, which I just didn't know how to do, or B, I needed to find the right partner. And I did. And that was once. I found once. Once we locked that in, I was done. I mean, I had a ring on order within like two months.

Interviewer (35:31)

But here's the thing. Obviously, when you wrestle, you probably had a couple of your dates around, and she probably saw her, she's like, nah, Seth, I'm good, bro. You ain't. You ain't. You ain't ready for anything serious.

Seth Rollins (35:43)

Well, when we started seeing each, like, because it was, you know, I was again, we were both scared of getting involved with someone we worked with. And so we were like, yeah, you know, let's just keep it kind of chill. Maybe this is a thing. Yeah. But then she was like, you know what? I don't think so. I don't like, you know, we can just be friends. We were friends before. We don't have to do any of that romantic stuff. Let's be friends. Because, like, if we're not going to be in all in, then I don't want to. I don't want to just do this little thing. I'm, you know, that's stupid because I, like, want to be all in, but I'm not gonna. So, like, she's like, ah, we'll be friends. And the literal second she said that I could, like, feel my heart be like, oh, no, what have you done? Don't do that. I can't let you get away. I can't let you get away. I'm like, but I'm supposed to be single now. I've decided that I needed to be single. She's also decided that I need to be single. You know, all these things are going on in my head at once. And then, like, I remember she hung up the phone and I'm like sitting there on the couch by myself going like, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is wrong, this is wrong. And thankfully, it was wrong. And then I convinced her that it was wrong. And like, two weeks later, she was like, you know what? We should be together. And like I said, then it was done.

Interviewer (36:53)

You guys have been together ever since.

Seth Rollins (36:54)

Ever since.

Interviewer (36:55)

It's. How did you know? Did you all. Because, like, you said you were friends. And as friends, you know, some guys, like, I can't be friends with a young lady or someone that I'm attracted to. But clearly you guys were friends. Did you have any idea that at some point in time that you guys could be in a relationship or you just.

Seth Rollins (37:13)

No, I mean, look, being in the. Being in the wwe. Look, man, I gotta be friends with girls that I'm attracted to because they're all. That's all they are. They're all beautiful women. You know what I mean? So you're friends with beautiful women. You just learn to figure that out. You know, it's not. If you, if you're not. Then you're not gonna have no friends, no female friends. So, yeah, you. You learn to do that, you know, and that is tricky too. I think that's. That's harder than I think people think it is. And it was something I had. Had to learn a little bit. But, yeah, once you got into that mode, it was like, yeah, no problem. And I, we never. I never thought about her that way. I knew she was beautiful, thought she was fun, but the work, like, we just didn't mix. And like, she. I was. Again, I was already dating, you know, I was in relationships, and she was, you know, seeing somebody or a couple guys here and there. So, like, outside of the industry. So we just never. It never even occurred until we were both single and. And at the right time, kind of talking to each other and spending more time together. And it was like, you know, the classic. One thing led to another.

Interviewer (38:14)

Why was she different?

Seth Rollins (38:17)

Gosh. I mean, it's so interesting because she's.

Interviewer (38:20)

Gonna see this, so be careful.

Seth Rollins (38:22)

Yeah, well, you can't. I can't describe it. She was just. It was so effortless, I think effortless to talk about anything and to. I had a, A, A different type of respect for her right out of the gate because we had established a friendship for a long time. Our relationship was based on friendship and based on a mutual respect and based on that kind of love as opposed to just, you know, I think I just. I confused the feeling of lust for a long time with the feeling of love.

Interviewer (39:04)

Yes.

Seth Rollins (39:05)

And kind of let that carry me through into relationships that I would. I would overstay my welcome for sure. With her, it was never about that. You know, it became lustful, became romantic. And it's. That part of it. It's incredible. But that was not like, the base for it. And so there was a respect and there was an understanding and an appreciation and. And I think those things, like, laid the foundation in a way that I had not experienced before. I mean, you can say she's smart and funny and kind and sweet, you know, give all that stuff, but the basis and the foundation for the relationship was. Was unique in a way that I had not experienced. And, you know, when you just find that person that feels like your person, where you're. You know, you have that connection, that's different and unique. Week, it was just there. It was. It was immediate. Once the romantic, once the spark hit, I was like, oh, that is. That's the thing. That's what they all talk about. That's what they write the movies. That's what they, you know, is.

Interviewer (40:08)

You were originally scheduled to be in Captain America.

Seth Rollins (40:11)

Ah.

Interviewer (40:11)

But they had your scene removed. Did you know they would have. Did you were gonna remove that seed or did. Were you, like, what did they call and say, well, Seth, you didn't make. You didn't survive the cutting room floor?

Seth Rollins (40:24)

That's correct.

Interviewer (40:25)

Yeah.

Seth Rollins (40:26)

So. So the movie went through a million rewrites. And, you know, I. I had gotten a call from producers. Also a friend of mine, his name's Nate Moore. He's wonderful guy, great producer. And he was working on that film. And so we had done it. We shot the whole thing. It was awesome. I would love to see a B roll of that because I had some pretty sick scenes in there where I'm beating up Anthony Mackie, and I'd love to see where that exists. But, you know, the studio wasn't happy with the direction of the film. They wanted to change some things. And they didn't just say, hey, you're out. They actually. They called me and they said, hey, we're repurposing this, the beginning of this film. You're like, I was in, like, kind of a group of roles. Like, we were a team. We're repurposing that into one person. They allowed me to read for the.

Interviewer (41:15)

Role.

Seth Rollins (41:17)

Just in the chance that they saw something they really liked and they would cast me in that. So I read for the role, and I was like. And then I saw Giancarlo Esposito, Gus Fring from Breaking Bad get cast in, and I'm like, well, I think they had their heart set. I'm not competing with that guy anyway. That's an elite actor. So, yeah, then they called me back, and we're like, nah, you know, we're gonna Go in a different direction. So at least I got a heads up. I wasn't like waiting for that invite, invite to the premiere and then got sad when I didn't get one. No, I, I, I, I knew it was up.

Interviewer (41:47)

Would you, do you want to, do you want to do movies or is that something you're interested in?

Seth Rollins (41:50)

No, man, I, I, I only took the, I did a WWE movie back in 2016. I tore my ACL in November of 15 WWE films, they had a studio at the time. They wanted me to come in and do a movie during my off time, which I did. Hated every second of it. I hated, I did not want to do another one, which is why I didn't take another role until Nate called me and said, hey, would you like to do this thing in Captain America? And I'm like, I gotta do that, right? You know, Captain America, Captain America, it's marvel. I gotta do that. So. But that's, I just don't like it. I don't like the process of it.

Interviewer (42:28)

You know, it's a lot of sitting and waiting.

Seth Rollins (42:30)

A lot of sitting and waiting. It's, you're waiting for months for any sort of feedback. You don't even know if you're doing a good job. You're doing the same thing over and over and over. I did not, I was not for me again, if the right prospect came along, I would consider it. But no, I got, I got my, my toes dipped in some other pools right now. So.

Interviewer (42:52)

If your daughter wanted to become a wrestler. Her mom's a wrestler, her dad's a wrestler. You open to that?

Seth Rollins (42:57)

Yeah. Living on a prayer.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you asked me that, like 20 years ago, I said no. You know, like the business was in a much different place. But thanks to my wife and some of the other women who've really pioneered change in wwe, the way the business looks at women now is completely different. What it means to be successful and good in our industry is not just about how you look. It's about what you can do, you know, whether you can talk. It's all the same metrics that it is for men. And so I think it's just a much better place for women than it was even when I came in in 2012. So if she wanted to do it, great, I'd support her and help her out.

Interviewer (45:36)

Yeah, because, I mean, in the beginning, women had very, very limited roles in wrestling. I mean, you might see them like once every three to four months.

Seth Rollins (45:44)

But it was, it was. I mean, they were on TV for two minutes and it was probably a bra and panties match or Jerry Lawler was screaming puppies or something like that. It wasn't. And it was awful. You know, it was Awful.

Interviewer (45:56)

We've seen some of the biggest stars in the wwe. Come on, go on to become very, very big in acting. We see Rock. He's probably your biggest. And you got Batista, and you see Roman Reigns. You said that's not something that you're really interested in. Do you think those guys got into WWE thinking it would transition them into acting? Because I remember rocking the mummy, and the next thing I know, he's in the Scorpion King, and the next thing I know, he's the Rock. I mean, he's dj.

Seth Rollins (46:27)

He's huge.

Interviewer (46:28)

He's doing everything.

Seth Rollins (46:29)

Yeah.

Interviewer (46:29)

Same thing with Batista.

Seth Rollins (46:31)

No, you know, I don't think so. I think they all, you know, they came into it different ways. Like, you look at the. The big ones like John Cena and. And dj, and they both. I mean, DJ grew up in it, right? His dad.

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Seth Rollins (46:42)

His. His grandpa. Like all his family, he's. He's a part of it. So he grew up around it. It, you know, tried college ball. It was really good. Got hurt, couldn't. Didn't make the pros and said, hey, let me give this thing a shot. And, you know, he just had an aptitude for it because it was. He'd been around it his whole life, and he's a natural performer, and he's perfect.

Interviewer (47:01)

I mean, he's, you know, six four, 250 pounds, athletic, could jump, could tumble, could do.

Seth Rollins (47:06)

You know, he's got it all, man. I mean, he's a total package. Perfect. Like, just. But he. And he. But his goal was never to be around for a long time, right? He wanted to. To kickstart and go to Hollywood. And when he got that opportunity, he. He, you know, made the most of it. John, same way, love the business. Just wanted to be a wrestler. Like, he was working in gyms and stuff like that, got an opportunity to get trained and become a wrestler, and did it and just was like, I love this. I'm gonna do this. And then eventually, you know, the role. Hollywood came calling, came asking, and he was. He. He developed a love for that. Now he's, you know, John Cena, the action star. So, yeah, I think when you see the people transition, it's. It's. They have a genuine passion for our industry, and Hollywood sees that. They see marketability in these guys and. Or girls, and they come and the opportunities are there. And, you know, some people love it and want to do it and are great at it. That ain't me.

Interviewer (48:00)

What's a. What's a routine? Like, so what's your, what's your week like as far as working out when you're on the, when you're on the docket?

Seth Rollins (48:08)

Yeah, I'll train like four or five times a week usually. Man, I used to train like a psychopath. And then, you know, I hit 35 and I just didn't recover the way I used to. And I was like, you know, I think I pump it down a little bit. So, you know. And then I became a dad as well. And, you know, your time just changes.

Interviewer (48:24)

You got to divvy it up.

Seth Rollins (48:25)

Yeah, your priorities change a little bit. And I didn't want to be at the gym for two and a half hours anymore, you know, and so I didn't want to train seven days a week anymore. I wanted to spend time with my kid and my family and all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I'll do like four, four days a week. We travel on Sunday, do the show on Monday. Occasionally there's the pay per views on Saturday and it's a longer weekend. And you know, again, I'm a little bit older, so I gotta count what I'm eating. You know, wrestling's an aesthetic business, so I gotta look a certain way. You know, I try to get some body work done once a week just to make sure everything's tidy. If I've got something that's worse, you know, I might get a couple, couple times a week, get the girl over to the house. Gets the elbow in the knots, you know. So I mean. And that's it. And then I try to be a dad when I'm home, try to take my kid to school and pick her up from school and do all the stuff.

Interviewer (49:13)

Does she travel with you guys when you guys on the road?

Seth Rollins (49:15)

She used to when she was younger. She started like preschool this year. And so she's kind of locked in in one place.

Interviewer (49:21)

Right.

Seth Rollins (49:21)

We'll still take her on like some select trips, but Becky, so she was born in December 2020 and Becky was off until July of 21. And then once Becky was back in July, our daughter came with us everywhere every. She came with us every weekend. We took her all over the world. It was awesome. I mean, it was, it was hard, but it was awesome. I mean, not everybody who's like a traveling working parent gets the opportunity to just like take their kid everywhere in the world with them. And we were so fortunate to be able to spend that time.

Interviewer (49:50)

Is a situation now that you guys alternate weekends or something when you. She's on the road, you're at Home. You're on my mama.

Seth Rollins (49:56)

My mom moved out to Los Angeles.

Interviewer (49:58)

Okay, well that's awesome.

Seth Rollins (49:59)

Yeah, my mom's out there, so grandma, she gets to spend time with grandma, you know, but we just make it work if, if, you know, Becky's gone. She was just gone for a good three every three week stretch or so. And fortunately I was hurt and home and able to do it and I wasn't on the road. But yeah, I mean if, if the schedule looks daunting and we're going to be gone for long periods of time, we'll get ahead of it. We'll talk to wwe. And they're so much better now than they, than, than days past where they are more family friendly. They are like, hey, let's make this work. And there's not a lot of, like Becky and I are pretty unique in the sense that we both do the gig, right. Like a lot of times when people have kids, it's, you know, their partner stays at home. They don't, they don't have, they work from home, they have a regular job or whatever. So we're very unique situation where we both do this. And WWE has been extremely accommodating and helping us make sure that our kid is, you know, has a parent there at all times.

Interviewer (50:55)

When you have to go to the bathroom.

Seth Rollins (50:59)

In the rain.

Interviewer (51:00)

In the rain.

Seth Rollins (51:00)

Oh, it never happens.

Interviewer (51:02)

Really?

Seth Rollins (51:02)

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, we're not playing. Yeah, but you guys got a three hour game. You know what I mean? That's. We don't. Our matches are at most, you know, a crazy one would be an hour long. Like the Royal Rumble's an hour long. But you're not in there for the whole time. So, you know, you don't, it never, it never occurs to me.

Interviewer (51:17)

So you. Nobody's ever had to go to the bathroom.

Seth Rollins (51:19)

I'm sure it has happened. I mean, it's like, it's just like it's not there. You know what I mean?

Interviewer (51:25)

You know, we got, we go, we go on the sidelines.

Seth Rollins (51:27)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get a nervous, like I have a nervous pee sometimes. Sometimes before the match. You know what I mean? I gotta run to like a bathroom real quick and get it out. But once it's out, I'm good. Yeah. Once I'm in, once I'm through the curtain, it's done, it's over.

Interviewer (51:39)

Well, that would be bad.

Seth Rollins (51:40)

Yeah, it would not be fun.

Interviewer (51:42)

You tell, hey ref, I gotta go to the bathroom. Yeah, you gotta go ahead and count me out.

Seth Rollins (51:45)

I know, I'M gonna roll under the ring, get a little bottle and go.

Interviewer (51:48)

You know, you roll up under the ring. That's what you did.

Seth Rollins (51:50)

That'd be if you needed to do it. That'd be how you do it. You go get a water bottle in there, a Gatorade bottle or something, roll into the ring, do your thing, get back out real quick.

Interviewer (51:58)

Quick. Wow.

Seth Rollins (51:59)

I've seen, I've known guys who've actually ran to the back, not on tv like on, on a live, like on a non televised event. Like they'll like do something, boom, go to the back, come back. But yeah, never happened to me. Knock on wood.

Interviewer (52:12)

We know you are a big, a huge, ginormous Bears fan.

Seth Rollins (52:16)

Yes, sir.

Interviewer (52:18)

They might be heading to Indiana. The Indiana Bears.

Seth Rollins (52:21)

Oh, God.

Interviewer (52:23)

No more Chicago Bears.

Seth Rollins (52:24)

There's no way. Come on. Can you even imagine it? Can you even imagine it? The Gary Bears. Come on, get out of here. Get out of here. You know, look, that, that's a PR stunt. There's no way that, that's, that's, that's. Kevin Warren's going. Come on. Yeah. Keep, keep pushing. They're not leaving Illinois.

Interviewer (52:43)

Well, they said, they said that same thing about the Chiefs not leaving Missouri.

Seth Rollins (52:47)

That's fair. That's fair. I mean, as long as we still call them the Chicago Bears.

Interviewer (52:51)

How you gonna call somebody Chicago Bears when they in Indiana?

Seth Rollins (52:53)

I mean, if you. The Kansas City. I mean, I guess Kansas City's the same.

Interviewer (52:57)

I can't see the Kansas. Kansas.

Seth Rollins (52:59)

Well, we're just going to have to rename Gary. It's just going to have to be Chicago. We're just going to Chicago. Indiana. Yeah, Chicago. Indiana just changed the dang thing.

Interviewer (53:07)

What you, you saw the vast improvement from the Bears this year.

Seth Rollins (53:10)

Oh, it's crazy.

Interviewer (53:11)

I mean, you see, they brought in Ben Johnson. Caleb Williams has performed unbelievable. The defense played better, you got skill, position. But Ben Johnson is the big reason. Season.

Seth Rollins (53:20)

Yeah.

Interviewer (53:20)

What has you so enthusiastic about the Bears moving forward?

Seth Rollins (53:24)

I mean, just you. They've got it. They've got a quarterback and a coach and if that stays synced up and you, you stay in that same system, I mean, you see the modern NFL, that is the recipe for success. Especially when you look at the big dynasties. You look at Brady and Belichick, you look at Mahomes and Reed, I mean, that's it. You know what I mean? You want, that's what you want and that's what everybody looks for. And so when, when. And you. And you see teams getting rid of coaches and drafting Quarterbacks just hiring coaches just so they can link them up like that, you know. So, I mean, I think when you've got the guy behind center who's tough, can throw the ball, wants to learn, wants to get better, and you've got the guy calling the plays who also seems to be a great leader, from what I can understand. Players want to play for him. You know, that's the recipe for success. And it feels like. Like this year felt different than for the Bears. You know, they, over the last 20 years, they've had a couple seasons that, you know, you look good and, you know, they had Nagy's first year with Trubisky. You said, oh, baby, this just felt different, man. Felt different this year with, with Caleb and, you know, could be wrong, could be a wash next year. The NFL's crazy place, but it did. I went to some of the games at Soldier Fields this year. It was a really special experience to be there and watch this team. Team.

Interviewer (54:43)

Can you guys win a championship? How soon before you guys win a championship?

Seth Rollins (54:46)

You know, I honestly thought and I predicted the Bears would have a really good season, but some of that was a little, you know, just me having a good time. I'll be honest with you. They exceeded my expectations this year. They exceeded my expectations this year, and I think everybody kind of thought it might take two years to get them where we wanted. You know, where, where. What's this going to look like with Caleb Williams?

Interviewer (55:05)

Right?

Seth Rollins (55:05)

The fact that they were able to progress so quickly and start winning games and continue to win games through the season, win the north with, with the packers and the Lions. I mean, the Vikings had a great year last year, but the Sam Darnold thing was chaos for them. You know, they might live to regret that decision. I think the Bears to win the north this year was. Was huge. I think they were. And I. Look, the packers game, wild card game, I was nervous about. I actually thought they were. I was kind of not, not too scared about the Rams. I thought they were going to win that game and we're very close. Yeah, they're there. I mean, you took look at the elite teams in the nfc, I, I don't think they're that far off. If everybody stays put and they get healthy and they, they, you know, they keep going. That offense, you only touched on what it could be, right? So, yes, they can win a Super bowl with.

Interviewer (55:58)

Thanks for stopping by. Club Shay. Shay, bro.

Seth Rollins (56:00)

Thank you, man. Seth Rollins, great chats, man.

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