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Shannon Sharpe
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Cheryl Underwood
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Unknown Speaker
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Cheryl Underwood
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Shannon Sharpe
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Cheryl Underwood
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Cheryl Underwood
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Shannon Sharpe
Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Movies Is there a movie that you audition? A role that you auditioned for that you didn't get that. You like, damn. Or is there something that you turned down that you wish you hadn't?
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Unknown Speaker
No. Cause I rarely audition. Cause I don't consider myself an actor. I consider myself a personality who can be taught the mechanism of. Of acting, how to hit your mark, stay in your light, memorize your lines, work on it. And I like doing certain things. I would love to do a sitcom, and I have a couple that I'm developing. I like doing movies. What I feel is I think Kim Whitley is one of the greatest actresses. Yvette Nicole Brown, greatest actress. Tisha Campbell, all these great actors. Regina King is not just a great actor, actor. She's a great director and a producer. Issa Rae. I have ideas that I want to work with everybody. And all I want is a cameo. That's all I want. I want to produce. I want to be able to stand up at these award shows and give it up for the show. The winner is. And I walk my black up and go, she did it. She did it. She produced, and she did it.
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Shannon Sharpe
You turned down Players Club, didn't you?
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Unknown Speaker
Okay, let me tell you what happened. I. Because I was in Sexual interpretive dance, they knew I had the skill, and so they called me and they said, we want you to consider this part. So I said, let me see the entire script, not just the sides. The sides are the pieces that you gonna be in. I said, I need to see the whole script. Now, I'm still not understanding. You ain't supposed to be making demands when they try to give you a job. That's why you ain't in no relationship, right? You over here making demands, right? So I. I say to them, I need to read the whole script. So I read the whole script, and in the script, it's the words of the character they want me to play that say you're gonna do Junior's Party or something like that, where Monica Calhoun, the girl that was in Best man and the Best Man Holiday, she ends up passing away. She's Morris Chestnut's wife. She plays it. Okay, this is where she gets raped and beat up. But it's my words to say the character they want me to play. So you're gonna do Junior's party. So I called them and I said, I cannot do it. And they were like, why not? And I told them why. I said, I've been raped. I said, I cannot do it. And they were like, well, it's just a part. I said, no, I'm not that good of an actor to step out of my own trauma. I said, cause I been told this girl, hey, read the rest of the script. About four pages. You about to get gaffled, right? You about to get up. See this page right here, right? I would have been like. The line wouldn't have been, you gonna do junior parties? The line been, bitch, don't do junior. So I'm not that good of an actor not to do that. And my heart is always on.
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Shannon Sharpe
The heart's always in the right spot.
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. Like when I dialed into the call with the Queens of Comedy, when I got the call to ask me to come and dial into this for a possible situation, I was so excited to work with them because I felt like this would be an achievement to show us all together.
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Shannon Sharpe
So it was gonna be you some more, Adele Gibbons.
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Unknown Speaker
Uh huh.
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Shannon Sharpe
And who?
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Unknown Speaker
I think Laura Hayes. Laura Hayes, right. Because I think Monique had already gone on to the things that she was gonna do individually. And so I get the dial in information. And you know, we do a lot of conference calls in organizations and nonprofits and things like that. So I know to dial in, but I think they're gonna put me in queue. I don't think they're gonna put me directly.
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Shannon Sharpe
Directly in.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, directly in the car. So I go directly and I hear words spoken about me. But I think God needed me to hear it, needed me to hear what my colleagues felt about me so I could.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you know prior to that they felt this way about you?
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Unknown Speaker
No. Or maybe I was too delusional. Maybe I was still on the. Hey, hey, let's get together and do a show. Let's rent a barn and we could do a show and raise some money and get a cow for the cookout or something. I'm still thinking, oh, this is great. And I did not know. Some of the things that I had heard and still hear about me I think are misplaced. And so then I took the time in my life to show people a better version of me. I'm still strong willed. I'm still. Who the you talking to? Nah, we ain't doing that. I still walk into bookings and say, did everybody get paid? Well, Cheryl, we paid you. I don't give a. Did everybody get paid? Until you pay everybody, you will not be having a show. Right. I'm still a leader. Right. But in that case, I think God needed me to hear it. And that's what I really wanted to say on cbs, that these women had achieved something, but they blessed me with something to learn more about me, to help me get to CBS and learn how to be a better me while I work with a team. And if I hurt them, I want them to ask them to forgive me even now. Because wouldn't it be great to see me? Adele Samor, Monique, Laura Hayes. All of us do a movie together. And I have that script. And I put my team together to write the script. Because I'm not trying to pay it backwards or forwards or anything. I'm trying to show, if we come together, why is it other races of people can hate each other, but they'll come together? There it is. Let's show solidarity, and then we all get paid.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did they know you were on that call? Did they have any idea?
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Unknown Speaker
No, they didn't know. They didn't know what I did. Was the person who invited me to get on the call, I said, I don't think I'll be a good fit. And that's when I started to learn. It's okay for you to back out of something, Sherrill, and just say, hey, maybe this is not going to be right without. I could have called everybody. I heard what the fuck you said about me. Da, da da, da da. But that's not going to be good spiritually. And I got to face God one day, and I'm trying to be a better me. But also I respected what they said. And then I tried to talk to each one of them, see them at award shows, at the hoodies, or see them on shows and different things that we were working on. I would try to be a better version of me, whether they accepted it or not, because I fear God more than I fear man. And these are my colleagues, and I love them no matter what they feel about me. I'm not saying I love you and I'm gonna be a sucker, but I do want to have that type of power to be able to say, and I've said it, I can't play this part, but she can. Call her. And every time my agents, my representatives, say, would you stop doing that? No, I will continue to do that because if somebody opens the door for me, I open the door for someone else.
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Shannon Sharpe
So how did you have the conversation? Did you ever have a conversation with them individually where you like, I heard what you said. I don't know why you said it, because I'm just Cheryl Underwood. I don't think I'm this, I don't think I'm that. I'm just being me. Did you have an individual conversation, one on one with these individuals?
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Unknown Speaker
I think it had grown so big with me Being on cbs. And I will accept of the few times that I've stepped in it at the top. You know, one time I stepped in it and I was working on Steve Harvey morning show and Steve allowed me to apologize to our community for. For stepping in some that I was not savvy to understand. And I asked the community to forgive me. It had got so big. I think they missed a part of it where I was saying, thank you, I appreciate what you've done. And when it goes viral, you know, and when everybody, oh, that's up what you did, or everybody's weighing in on it, it would be difficult to have that conversation, I would think. But I worked in my career to have the ability to want to put something together. Not because I want them to kiss the pinky ring. I want to show you I respect your talent. I respect you. And I also believe you ain't always got to like them to work with them.
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Shannon Sharpe
I agree.
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Unknown Speaker
Sometime you just get that work, get that money, and let's keep working and keep making that money for your family mortgage. Everything is, we've got to figure out how to put our differences aside to make great art that makes great commerce.
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Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned making money, and you're very savvy with your money. You invest, you take care of your money. You mentioned that the most important thing to you is the making sure your disabled sister has 24 hours care. And when you started making money, Cheryl, did you always have this idea, like, it's not how much money I make, it's how much I keep? Have you always been this business savvy? Have you always been like, I gotta not only make money, but I gotta keep it because I got people counting on me.
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Unknown Speaker
Both my mamas was entrepreneurs. My mama, mama who raised me had a drapery business down in the basement, but she would come upstairs and make sure that them pots was rattling. My daddy had a plate of food, the middle piece of the cornbread, the big piece of the chicken. And that's what I watched, right? And my dad entrepreneurial. So I knew I had to get in some type of business structure. So you're absolutely right. And then when my sister came to live with me after my birth mother, D and my brothers, you know, and my sister, I understand what they want to do with their life. I understand it. But I've been up under my sister since I was a baby. She's older than me, and I didn't know she was disabled. I thought she was just fun to be around. And I still tell jokes about her and if political correctness will allow me to tell the jokes that they're written, I will bring those jokes back. They're funny jokes, but you're not supposed to use certain words. You're talking about the disabled, but the word gives the joke. It's like English on a ball when you're playing pool. The word gives the joke. The spin, the power. Right? So my sister. I knew I was gonna take care of my sister. I knew when I was a little girl. Cause I was already doing it. I was a little bitty girl. I mean, three, four, five, six years old. Being with her, she was my playmate, and I was hers. This is the baby I was supposed to have.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did your mom or dad ever tell you that this would be your responsibility if something were to happen to them? That you would have to take up the role of be the mother, even though that's your sister? You now you're the parent in the relationship because now you have to provide. Did they ever tell you that? Or you just knew that was your responsibility?
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Unknown Speaker
Well, I know my grandmother on my mother's side was like, you've got to do it. Cause you're a girl and she's a girl, you know? And, you know, in our families, it's whoever's the oldest, take care.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
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Unknown Speaker
But my older brother was looking at this like, okay, I'm doing it, but I shouldn't be doing it. So I'm uncomfortable about this. I'm speaking for him. He's never told me this, but he did come on the talk and tell me that he was proud of me.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Unknown Speaker
And of the two people that's ever told me they were proud of me. My father, before he died, and my oldest brother. But I was shaping my life for this. I've been married once, and the only reason I didn't jump into a marriage, when people were like, marry me, I'll take care of you and your sister, I said, okay, understand this. If you touch it, I'll kill you. That's as simple as that. That's it. You still want to get married, Right? That's just me. And to me, the greatest joy in my life was asking God, open the doors for me. Where does she go if something happens to me? You know? So, yeah, I mean, my sister was my motivator. And, you know, she can't read, write, or talk, but she be laughing, I be telling little jokes. And I'd be like, you can understand more than you can understand. Or I make a drink. I turn my back. Now my drink's gone. Oh, come on, Long Gut. What's happening? Long Gu. You know, and she would clap and we would have fun together. But that is what motivated me to succeed.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
Even though I was not. You were pretty much deputized, you know, I'm the girl. I'mma do it. And then I started to enjoy it. I started to enjoy grocery shopping and doing laundry, going to school, and then rushing home to take care of her. I started to enjoy it. And what did it give me? A work ethic.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
I have a strong work ethic. And my father, I remember my dad going, are you sure? And I said, I'm sure. He said, but what about your life? What about your family? I said, she is my life. She is my family. I can't turn my back on her.
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Shannon Sharpe
You think that's the greatest? Like, I was a kid growing up and coming home and giving my grandmother $10, giving my grandmother $20. That started me at a very young age. I'm a provider. My greatest enjoyment is providing for my family. That's the only thing that I think about when I wake up and when I go to bed at night. Just let me provide for my family.
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Unknown Speaker
Let me tell you something. My father would not take money from me. You know, he worked a good job at Chrome Plated, right? But you know, everybody between check. So I would have to dap him up on my way out the door. I daddy, you know, when I come back, I come back to Chicago, we're gonna hang out, and I dap him up. But one time when he figured out how much money I was making, this was back when, remember the war before war on terrorism, there was a war on drugs.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
And they were pulling us off planes. Cause we was mules or drug dealers and everything. And that's when they was paying us cash, right? So I had the dope brick of cash, had the dope brick of cash, flew through Chicago. I said, daddy, I need a favor. He said, what? I said, I need you to take this money and wire it back to me. Now, I never showed him what the money was. Now, come on. Now, we both, you know, if you don't want to know what my father look like, you as a shorter man, okay? So my daddy was like, I'm taking my baby to the bank. I run the bank. They know me, brother Underwood. Da, da, da, da, da. So we walking at the bank. What do you need, Mr. Underwood? My daughter need me to wire this money. Okay, show him the money. I pull out the money. His eyes get wide. She takes the Money walks out the room. Bring us back some forms. My father goes, where you get that money from? I said, I worked for it. I worked for it. I show him the contract. He reads the contract. He said, you made all this money just doing 45 minutes of work? I said, yes, sir. Yes, sir. I said, I'm telling you the truth. He kept the deposit slip. When he died, the deposit slip was under the lace runner on the dresser.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes. Underneath it. He would look at it with pride.
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Shannon Sharpe
He was so proud.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right. That's right. That's what this is about.
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Shannon Sharpe
And it's hard to get. You try to get your older people to accept things. Because my grandmother, my sister, would literally have to sneak her out the house. Yes. To get a refrigerator.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Or to get a wash and dryer.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because she's like, libby, let them boys enjoy their money.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
But our enjoyment was to take care of her. When she gave up, she raised her nine and then took my mom's three and raised them as her own.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
And so that was me and my brother's responsibility. But we caught hell trying to get her things because she's like, no, I don't need it.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right. That's right. I tell the story about my sister riding in the passenger seat of my convertible Bentley. I tell the story in the show, and I can't tell it here because I gotta use certain words. And I don't want your little show to get canceled.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I show. Appreciate that.
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Unknown Speaker
You appreciate that. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
I like the little bit of money I make.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right. And if you come to my live show, Mix and Mingle Tour 2025, you come to show. If I've been drinking enough, I will tell those jokes. But I wanted to achieve something. I wanted her to have security. I wanted her to have a roof over her head. That is why I'm working hard. Now, there are people that depend on me. The other acts depend on everybody that works with us. Depend on us to make sure we do the right things so we can keep making this money.
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Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned you told black people buy stocks instead of lottery tickets every Friday.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right. That's right. We need to see people say, I ain't gonna buy no stock. Stock. Too risky. Shut up, nigga. You buy a lottery ticket every Friday. What the is the difference? You investing in something. If you hit the number, that's great. But what if you hit the stock number? What if you like cryptocurrency? Are you investing in this Crypto.
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Shannon Sharpe
I did not.
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Unknown Speaker
I can't do it. It's just.
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Shannon Sharpe
I had an opportunity when it first came out. I can show you the thing. A guy, a friend of mine, I met him many, many years ago. He said, shannon, I got this opportunity. He says, I don't know if you know anything about crypto, but I got an opportunity and I'd be willing to sell you. I think he said, like, 25 or 50. And at the time, the coins was like, probably like 150, $200. So he said, I could sell you, you know, 10 to 20.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And if you wanted more, it would take time, but I could get you more. Cause I know you.
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Unknown Speaker
How long ago was this?
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Shannon Sharpe
This was 2015.
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Unknown Speaker
Okay, now listen to me, though. But you gotta hold it and you gotta remember how to get into it. Cause if you lose the thing to get into it and see what this is. What I. And I love Mark Cuban. As a matter of fact, I was talking to Mark Cuban when I was working at KRNB in Texas. I think that when you have disposable income that you can speculate in cryptocurrency. That's great. But most people don't.
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Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Unknown Speaker
So they think you're going to take $1,000 of cryptocurrency and make 100 million. That's not how this works.
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Shannon Sharpe
No.
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Unknown Speaker
You got to have money to lose.
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Shannon Sharpe
Correct. Disposal. You got to have disposal. You got to have. Even when the stock market's like, okay, I got money that I can set aside for five, 10 years, and I'm not going to miss it.
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because if you don't.
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. And what we need to do. When you see a black man running Beatrice Foods, or when you see a black man doing the things that these black billionaires are doing. Yes, you can do that if. But if we don't have the money to lose. Don't play with people's money.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
It's just like raising the sun. When they got that insurance money and they supposed to get that liquor Stone, they done messed up the money. That's what it's about. And you can't mess up people money. Cause people need it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Are you okay being the breadwinner in the relationship?
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not the breadwinner in the relationship. You mean any man I'm with?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not the breadwinner in the relationship.
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Shannon Sharpe
But would you be okay if you were?
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not. There's no man I know from you. Or he got a regular job. He work at a Warehouse. He is the head of the household. He is the breadwinner. I will chip in as he see fit because he's the head. Now, this is the way I was raised. A lot of women not gonna agree with me.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, they ain't gonna agree with that shit.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm cool if you don't, but they.
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Shannon Sharpe
About to tear you up, Cheryl. Let me see.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, tear me up, because here's the thing. Even if I make more money, it doesn't make me the breadwinner.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay.
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Unknown Speaker
It doesn't make me the breadwinner. It makes me the baby. What you. You say you wanna do? What or what you want for Christmas? You want a pony? Okay, nigga, I got you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cheryl, you know, like what the breadwinner, you know, he has. Normally that person has the larger voice in the relationship.
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Unknown Speaker
He's a man. He's going to have. This is what I believe. But what if.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got the money? You making the money.
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Unknown Speaker
No, this is what I believe.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Unknown Speaker
I believe. I am advice and concurrence.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
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Unknown Speaker
He is the head of the household. Now, this is how I believe. The word did not originate with me. He is the head of households. People need to start reading Ephesians. That's what I believe. I may be strong willed, I may make money, but I'm not the head of the household. But what I watch my mama. Mama who raised me and my daddy, I watched them talk on Saturday morning. And my brother Chris will tell you this. I watched them talk on Saturday morning, and they settle the differences and come out unified. I am not the head of the house. I may be an influencer, especially if this man has children.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Unknown Speaker
Right. I want to make his life better and easier. But I'm not the head of the household. Even if I have access to more money. What happens if I don't have access to more money and we gotta live off his money? Then we gonna be eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and fried bologna. Cause I love fried bologna sandwich. And I like salami. Fried salami with the peppercorn. Delicious. But if we got to live off of that, he is still the man and the head of the household.
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Shannon Sharpe
Women don't think like that no more.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, I think like that. And why the hell I'm not married, Daddy. And so. But that's what I believe in. And I want a man, young or old, to see that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Young or old? What you mean?
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Unknown Speaker
I go from 35 to 95. Come on, Woodrow. 35 to 95. Holla at ya, girl.
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Shannon Sharpe
Man, Cheryl, you ain't looking for no 35 year old.
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Unknown Speaker
I date young men. Talk to me.
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Shannon Sharpe
I know, but you ain't want that pressure. You ain't trying to get that pressure like that.
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Unknown Speaker
What kind of pressure you talking about?
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Shannon Sharpe
Back beat in on the red.
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Unknown Speaker
Listen to me. I know how to hold my arm. I know how to wrestle. Let's go, little boy. You gotta come on and eat this cereal and ride this big wheel and stop playing.
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Shannon Sharpe
So what's the. Obviously, there's not anywhere that you're gonna be able to go that people are not gonna know who you are. Cheryl.
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Unknown Speaker
It's my voice. Yeah, it's really my voice. When I go through the drive through to order my popeyes, it's 35 Negroes in the window going, I told you was Cheryl. Why you need all this shrimp and chicken? I thought you was losing weight.
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Shannon Sharpe
So what's the dating scene like for Cheryl Underwood?
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Unknown Speaker
How should I answer this employee at a millennium? I would say I wish that someone would appreciate what I bring to the table. And I wish that I don't mind a man who has children. I don't mind a man who has less.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Cause you ain't having none. So you.
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Cheryl Underwood
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Cause my transmission been dropped. I'm out. Hold on. If I'm pregnant, it better be three wives a minute to know. Cause it's Christmas. Listen, I think the dating scene. Well, first, I don't go out a lot, right? I work a lot. And when I'm at home, I'm happy to be home. I have people, a person situation. Okay, but you know, you never know. You know, Ling along, but die, you must, you know. But you. I mean, to ask, how is the dating scene? You have to ask the men, right? Because I mean, I will approach a man, but I like to be approached. I like. Would you. I grew up. Would you like to dance?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
Would you like to go to the movies or something? I'm looking for that. I'm looking for that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Man don't like rejection.
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Unknown Speaker
I'm not gonna reject you. If you man enough to walk across a room and walk through three of my best girlfriends and go, hello, Cheryl. My name is Rodney Jenkins. I don't know why I picked Rodney Jenkins. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Y'all men don't like to be rejected.
- [24:58]
Unknown Speaker
You're not gonna be rejected.
- [24:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, there's a possibility you might.
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Unknown Speaker
No. Okay, go ahead. Let's play the role. Action. Ask me out. Ask me out. You want to go for a hamburger or something? Say it.
- [25:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, this is how I would do it.
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Unknown Speaker
Action. Okay.
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Shannon Sharpe
My name is Shannon Sharpe. How you doing?
- [25:12]
Unknown Speaker
I know you, nigga. Come on, let's go. Let's go, nigga. All I gotta do is take these muscle relaxers, go to the hamburger place, get two hamburgers. Listen to me, it's on the popping. Listen, if you. My name is Shannon child. I don't know why you even think you need to tell me your name. I'm already taking my clothes off before I even got in the car. Why is this Miss Naked on the Curb?
- [25:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Why would you do online dating? Would you all like.
- [25:40]
Unknown Speaker
I am? I'm on like eharmony and Raya and all that. But your name, I don't think people believe it's me. I don't think people believe in me. And matter of fact, I'm about to cancel all of that. I'm about to cancel all of that. Listen, if you are coming to the Mix and Mingle tour and would like to date me, just walk up to me because I think men believe I already have someone, you know?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, you kind of do what, you.
- [26:08]
Unknown Speaker
Know, I don't know who you saw. I thought I walked ahead by my damn self. No, but who I got. Well, let me just say this. I think that people think that we all have it together, right? Stand up comedy or really in your career field too, it's the loneliest thing in the world because you're talking to the world. But you go home alone and then you gotta hope that the person is there for longevity, you know? So, I mean, yes, I would like for a man that's in my vicinity to say, stop looking, you found it, you found it. That's right. That's right. And I don't care about age and I don't care about things that you would think if you wanna date me, like I said, I take a fried bologna sandwich. If you say, well, what are we gonna do on the first date? You gonna fry some bologna? Get some nice good bread? It don't have to be name brand bread. And good mustard, you know, French is, you know, good mustard with the crust around the bologna. That's a date for me. That's a date. We can sit in the car and listen to music all night.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so you ain't got, you ain't got to worry on these high sedated places, spend 5, $600 on the first date, huh?
- [27:19]
Unknown Speaker
If, if, if he, after we did some reasonably priced things and we're a couple, wanted to go to those places, I would want to open the door.
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Shannon Sharpe
But that ain't got to Be the first date.
- [27:33]
Unknown Speaker
No, no, no. And I wouldn't want a man to break the bank trying to impress me. Cause you can't do it every day.
- [27:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
- [27:40]
Unknown Speaker
That's why I tell a man, don't start out buying flowers.
- [27:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Don't start out leading with money.
- [27:45]
Unknown Speaker
That's right. If you ain't got it now, if you got it, you ain't got to do it either. Keep it. I need you to keep it. What if I need. If you spending all your money trying to get some. And when I ask you, hey, nigga, Let me hold 500. I ain't got it. I ain't got it. Why? Cause you spent it all on me when you could have saved the money and got it. Listen, I'll be here all week. It's called the Mix and mingle tune. 2025. Get Me on all social media. Yes. That is me trying to learn social media.
- [28:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Have you seen the dating show Pop the Balloon?
- [28:18]
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. What? And then you pop the balloon if you don't like it.
- [28:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:23]
Unknown Speaker
I don't. Well, I think that's interesting. TV content.
- [28:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Okay.
- [28:27]
Unknown Speaker
I just don't think that's real life.
- [28:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [28:29]
Unknown Speaker
You ain't popping no balloon on me just because you don't like my toes right here. That's a bunion. That's a corn and a bunion.
- [28:41]
Shannon Sharpe
How you are dressed or something like that.
- [28:43]
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I don't.
- [28:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Have we gotten too superficial, Cheryl?
- [28:46]
Unknown Speaker
I think we're no more superficial than we. We've been. Because men like what they see. Women here. That's right. But. But when you get to social media, that's when you have a problem and when you let other people get in your ear.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, see, that's the.
- [29:04]
Unknown Speaker
Yep, that's right. That's right. Any man walking with me or near me, I don't give a. What the world is talking about. You're my man. I love you. I want you to look good, smell good. I believe in the smell good.
- [29:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's me. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna get me one then.
- [29:20]
Unknown Speaker
You listen me.
- [29:21]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna get me a young one then. Cheryl. Say, hey, Cheryl. Say 35. 35.
- [29:25]
Unknown Speaker
35. That's right. I like the smell of a man. You know what really turned me on?
- [29:30]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [29:31]
Unknown Speaker
Is I done went to bed early. Cause I like to go to bed early. Cause I get up early in the morning and my man come in smelling like a club. Tobacco and brown liquor that snuggle up on me like that. I'm like, listen, listen. You gonna be late for church. You'll be late for church. Now. I like a man. I like a man to be. No matter what your age, you must be the man. You must be the man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey guys, this is Matt Jones.
- [31:04]
Unknown Speaker
Drew Franklin from the Fade this podcast.
- [31:06]
Shannon Sharpe
We got a great episode coming up.
- [31:07]
Unknown Speaker
Picks in all the sports. Football, basketball, we do them all.
- [31:11]
Shannon Sharpe
But here's a preview of this week's episode.
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Unknown Speaker
I've seen people in the gambling community kind of make jokes about fade this and we just goof off and don't even talk about the games. Bring your records and set them on this table right now. All you out there that are spend two hours talking about the games and will in the last seven years and night games, they've come in and haven't scored 20 points and you get too detailed. Bring your records right here to fade this. We'll talk about books and cooking and Kevin Costner and still make more money betting on sports than you will.
- [31:43]
Shannon Sharpe
And this episode was brought to you in partnership with DraftKings.
- [31:46]
Unknown Speaker
To hear more, listen and subscribe to.
- [31:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Fade this on iheartradio or wherever you.
- [31:50]
Unknown Speaker
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Shannon Sharpe
So, Cheryl, say 35 to 65.
- [32:24]
Unknown Speaker
So 35. 95. I go as high as 95. 95, yeah.
- [32:27]
Shannon Sharpe
What the hell you gonna do with a 95 but put in a wheelchair?
- [32:29]
Unknown Speaker
I'm a young Tenderoni to a 95. Woodrow. Woodrow. You gotta push around in the train, Malachi. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna push around. Matter of fact, we gonna have double scooters. We gonna drive around, be in the casino playing penny slots. I'm ready. You was in World War II. You can get it. If you was a Tuskegee airman, you could get what?
- [32:47]
Shannon Sharpe
A check. That's the only thing he gonna do.
- [32:49]
Unknown Speaker
Let me tell you something. Let the old dude take that Viagra. You gonna get wore. I'm gonna be sitting there smoking some.
- [32:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Get him most farts.
- [32:58]
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, listen, I'm like, look at Woodrow. Look at Rufus. You did your thing. We up here listening to Johnny Taylor and Sam and Dave.
- [33:07]
Shannon Sharpe
What about marriage? You open to get married?
- [33:10]
Unknown Speaker
I believe in it. I don't like to have sex on the first date, but, I mean, I can get caught slipping. I be like, hey, let me take my shoes off first. But, you know, I prefer to be married. I prefer to be married, and I don't like sex on the first date. I mean, if you.
- [33:27]
Shannon Sharpe
If. If you don't get married, would you consider. Would that be an exactly. No.
- [33:36]
Unknown Speaker
No.
- [33:36]
Shannon Sharpe
No. I mean. Yes. You ain't gonna.
- [33:38]
Unknown Speaker
Hell, no. Can't no man worth his manhood in his backbone put a key in anything I own and walk in like, he run it or he own it. You are not a man. That's not how this go. I want you to live in your own separate house, and I live in my own separate house until you make a decision that I'm worth to be your wife. Right?
- [33:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Have you ever had a key to a man's house?
- [34:00]
Unknown Speaker
Hell, no. That's your. I don't like that shit.
- [34:02]
Shannon Sharpe
See, people laugh at me. Cause I say I ain't never had a key to a woman's house.
- [34:06]
Unknown Speaker
Listen to me. I want you to live. You can live right next door. I don't care. You know, I just want to be. We be monogamous toward each other. Cause I want to be able to trust you, and you trust me. You know? You can't have no key to my. Though, you know, he might come over.
- [34:20]
Shannon Sharpe
There and see something, huh?
- [34:22]
Unknown Speaker
You gonna see everything. If I ain't got out the bathtub fast enough, you gonna see. You will see all of this. And I done lost almost 110 pounds. Thank you, Dr. Zuri Morrell. You need to interview my doctor on how I got healthy and lost the weight. Health and wellness is a big thing for me, but no, I can't shack with no man. I don't want to shack with no man. And especially if you have children. I don't want to show. And you got daughters.
- [34:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [34:49]
Unknown Speaker
Oh, hell no. I'm not going to show your daughters how to be whores. I'm not doing it. Oh, man, I'm not doing it. See that? See that? Now you looking at it different. Now you be like, I should have married this. How many years ago was it?
- [35:04]
Shannon Sharpe
32.
- [35:05]
Unknown Speaker
See, we could have been growing our. We could have been cryptocurrency down. We be selling in brown liquor. Hi, I'm Cheryl Underwood, and when I want to turn up, I drink this right here. Matter of fact, I put this in pecan pie.
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Shannon Sharpe
You can see Jeff Bezos is getting married. And his wedding is estimated to cost $500 million.
- [35:30]
Unknown Speaker
I could do it for the low, low price of 1,500 past the included. But I give it up for old girl, though. Uh, Lauren Sanchez. I give it up for her. She really helped him. Now, if she could just help him in the political space. You see what I'm saying? Do something more with that money. Right, right. Help other people. And that's why. That's the other reason why my tour is called the Mix. And Min got to find out why would half the country vote in a way that may cost them things in the long run?
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Shannon Sharpe
And they really voting against their own best interest.
- [36:06]
Unknown Speaker
Absolutely, absolutely. Just because of some other issues. See, that's the next time we get together, talk about politics, talk about the world events and things like that. But if she can influence him to say, you have all this money, what good are you going to do with it? And I want to shout out the CEO of Costco. You know, the CEOs that are standing.
- [36:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Up and saying, Apple, I think said the dei. We're gonna keep that one.
- [36:31]
Unknown Speaker
Yes, absolutely, absolutely. And you know who else I wanna shout out? The young brother that's running Red Lobster. Now you talking to me about dating. I would love to do an unscripted show where I go on dates. And the only place we going is Red Lobster. Every city a man wanna go to Red Lobster. As long as you're not allergic to seafood. Let's go hit all these Red Lobsters.
- [36:49]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm allergic to seafood.
- [36:50]
Unknown Speaker
Oh, but damn, you can't go there. You know, you can get a cheddar biscuit. That's all you can eat. That's all you can eat. But I wanna help this young brother really grow Red Lobster.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I heard you say women shouldn't get divorced because of cheating. Especially if the man has money. Why you say that? Cause you know women. Wait a minute. They tore you up, Cheryl, did they tear me up? They tore you up.
- [37:10]
Unknown Speaker
Wasn't them my Tiger Wood? Joe, I wouldn't have never divorced Tiger Wood. I don't give a fuck how many he over at Perkins. And that wasn't an unattractive waitress Woman.
- [37:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [37:19]
Unknown Speaker
Sorry. Not that I don't love the pie. I'm just saying, why would you divorce him? You grew this dude. You make him the man that he became. Why would you let another take what you grew? And you got to learn how to forgive. Because I'm sure as women, we've done some he may or may not know about. And now you're mad. Is he cheating all the time? And you knew he was a dog when you met him and you thought your was going to change him. Does not change a man.
- [37:48]
Shannon Sharpe
You don't.
- [37:49]
Unknown Speaker
But a blow job will make a man reconsider his position. Scale one. Okay, so listen, I just don't believe in divorce. I don't. I don't believe in.
- [38:02]
Shannon Sharpe
I am. Well, I mean, until they say, death do us part. You took that, nigga.
- [38:06]
Unknown Speaker
You first. Death do us part. You can't be whooping my ass, but I'm not divorcing you. Now, if you whooping my ass, I got to call somebody over and handle this. You know three, four dudes I was with prom night or my brothers or some street dudes, you know, Kelo and them, hey, I give you $50 and some love.
- [38:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Me what?
- [38:23]
Unknown Speaker
Lump him up. That's right. But for me, I just. I believe you should always forgive as long as he hasn't crossed the line that you can't come back from. But you need to tell him that here are my deal breakers. And then ask him, what are your deal breakers? And as long as we can come together and go, I was wrong. I was wrong. Cause a lot of women will hold the pussy hostage.
- [38:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
And then the man go out. Well, you wouldn't give me none, so I went out and got it. Well, why didn't you just talk to me about. Well, why are you mad at me? That you are neglecting something that I need. That's right. That's right. And if you can talk to a man and get a man to trust you. See, women have other women to talk to to get it out of them. Men don't have another man to talk to. Oh, you can't go to your boys and go. I don't know why. Cheryl, shut your ass up. Ass. You know you can't do that, right? So if your woman cannot forgive you, and she's gonna wanna be forgiven by gosh. As long as it doesn't cross the line. Ass whooping. Okay, can you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we gotta go.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah, you got to go. But you knew he was crazy when you met him. Or ass whooper when you met him. You know, my deal breaker is you can't lose all our retirement money. Cause I can't make this money back. I got pension. I got everything. I worked too hard for this. You know, my sister's depending on me. You got some get rich quick scheme. You lose all our money. That's a deal breaker for me. But I will tell a man the truth. We ain't mixing money like that. Cause somebody.
- [39:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so now, okay, you get married.
- [39:52]
Unknown Speaker
Yes.
- [39:53]
Shannon Sharpe
He has an account. Yes, you have an account. And y'all have a joint account.
- [39:56]
Unknown Speaker
That's right. There it is right there. We have an account. And I put in in that. Now, what if this got growing hands and he in that cryptocurrency and now we billionaires, but he don't tell me he just pinching off that money and growing it and growing it. And then I'll be like, this. Got a 1500 credit score. I didn't know it existed. Baby, I love you. See, that's. You want your man to be able to. What do you believe in? What are your dreams? How can I help you become whatever you want to be?
- [40:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
That's what I want to do in any relationship.
- [40:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. Cheryl Lee Ralph.
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Unknown Speaker
Mmm.
- [40:32]
Shannon Sharpe
They've been married over 20 years.
- [40:33]
Unknown Speaker
Yup.
- [40:34]
Shannon Sharpe
And they haven't lived together.
- [40:35]
Unknown Speaker
It works. That's what I'm looking for.
- [40:39]
Shannon Sharpe
When I first read this, I was like, ain't no way this can be true.
- [40:42]
Unknown Speaker
You know, she over there. She go see him, he go see her. They go tighten up. Like Archie Bell in the dress. That's right. I'm old. And that's what happens sometimes. Some people can live together, some people cannot. But that doesn't mean they don't love each other. And that doesn't mean they're not monogamous. That's the other thing. If I can't. If I say, well, I need to see you. Cause I can't trust what you're doing. If you can't trust me to go to grocery store, you damn sure can't trust me anywhere else at night.
- [41:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [41:10]
Unknown Speaker
All cheating don't occur at night.
- [41:13]
Shannon Sharpe
True.
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Unknown Speaker
Am I right?
- [41:14]
Shannon Sharpe
You're right.
- [41:15]
Unknown Speaker
But if I love you and you love me and we respect each other and I know cheating will break your heart. I won't. Now, I have done some stuff that's questionable, you know, because men don't like. Like if me and you was dating and we broke up, I couldn't get with. Who's your best friend?
- [41:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Bucket and Burns.
- [41:35]
Unknown Speaker
Okay. Bucket and Burns.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [41:38]
Unknown Speaker
Sound like half dead and do dirty and penitential.
- [41:40]
Shannon Sharpe
What? You know how penitentiary.
- [41:42]
Unknown Speaker
Hey, read it. Read it to me right. Read it to me right. Read it to me right there. Tell him sweet.
- [41:47]
Cheryl Underwood
Too sweet.
- [41:48]
Unknown Speaker
Now that I would do high five white. If we remade penitentiary. I would tell the. Now that's a wrong.
- [41:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Half daddy do dirty.
- [41:56]
Unknown Speaker
Half daddy do dirty. But if I was messing with one of your friends after you and I got together, it's only meant to hurt you.
- [42:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [42:04]
Unknown Speaker
Am I right? That's not cool to do. You know, I would tell you every man I know, I can still talk to them and be friends. It may never. I don't like to look back. I ain't turn into a pillow of salt. Cause if I feel you don't want me. If I feel I'm not that girl. Even if I put in work, I can feel it that I'm not her. Yeah, I'm not her. So I'm let you go and live your life.
- [42:27]
Shannon Sharpe
You do your thing.
- [42:28]
Unknown Speaker
That's right. That's right. But I would never hurt you so hard to get with your friends. Now I do have a joke that I tell. But you gotta come to the mix and mingle to a 2025 to hear that joke of how I would hurt your feelings if you hurt me really bad.
- [42:41]
Shannon Sharpe
You see, like the women like sleeping with robots. Now, Cheryl, is that. I mean, come on, what's really going on?
- [42:47]
Unknown Speaker
Well, I have had some battery operated things. You, you know, some that I put a, you know, a lawnmower, gas lawnmower engine on it, you know, but damn. Yeah, you have vroom, vroom. I call him Charles, you know, but you know, and you don't really need a robot. These two fingers do it for you. I love you, you love me. We Love each other. What kind of. What Little baby? But I like the intimacy of the talking and the us in the kitchen and, you know, you making the chili or whatever you feel. Oh, you put turkey in the chili. Ooh, let me taste it. I like all of that. Or I like watching TV together.
- [43:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Y'all sitting on the couch, you know, got a little drink, got a little food, you know.
- [43:37]
Unknown Speaker
Yes, yes. Yeah. I'm not gonna talk too much to you. Depends, like, if you watching the game. I don't like talking to a man when he watching tv. I ain't gonna slide on you. Go. What you thinking about? I'm not doing that. Usually punching in the chair, I'm not doing all of that. But if I get quiet, doesn't mean I'm mad at you. It just means I'm thinking right? And I'm really a quiet person and I need my alone time. We could be in the house. I'll be in the bedroom, you be in the living room. But then when it come time for us to meet up together, let's meet up. Meet up together. Man. What is it?
- [44:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on.
- [44:08]
Unknown Speaker
How many more cars you got? Damn. Can I go pee? No, I'm just kidding.
- [44:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you can. You can't.
- [44:13]
Unknown Speaker
No, I'm good. I'm good. That was a joke.
- [44:15]
Shannon Sharpe
You got. Did you actually have an escort service?
- [44:19]
Unknown Speaker
Yes, I did.
- [44:20]
Shannon Sharpe
You let it go.
- [44:21]
Unknown Speaker
One of my first companies, because I was going to. When I got to la, I was going to events by myself. And, you know, you go to get a ticket to the Grammys, you know, or I went to the last Tyson fight in Memphis by myself.
- [44:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lanny's Lewis.
- [44:38]
Unknown Speaker
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I was going to take my dad and my dad pass, but I like companionship. I like to share. I like to turn around and go, oh, my God, did you see this? Or, you know, going to Super Bowls, you know, to be able to go, oh, my God, did you see that past? Did you see this interception? Did you see, you know, all the places that I'm afforded to go? It's great to just like mahogany. Success is nothing without someone you love to share with. Billy Dee Williams was right. And I want somebody to share that with. So to be able to go somewhere with somebody, it just brings you closer together. So I wanted to hire men that would study the woman and go with her to an event. The reason I had to stop the company was because some women felt that if they pay more than $1,000 for this, they should be able to sleep with him and Isn't that pandering, pimping, procurement? Isn't that the three P's? Isn't that so I couldn't do that. I couldn't do it to her, and I didn't want it to be done to him. I wanted a man.
- [45:39]
Shannon Sharpe
He probably more. I wanted it, though.
- [45:40]
Unknown Speaker
But if you want it, you can't get it through my corporation because that makes me pimped. That's right. The legal. Now, I believe in pimping, pimping, pimping. But I don't believe in breaking the law. You get what? You get what I'm saying? Cause we might bring the dancers back. We might audition a team of dancers and bring that show back. And that helped me double, quadruple my money when I added male, exotic, and we call it sexual interpretive dance, you know. But I may bring that show back because I do believe that women should let off steam, and I believe that men should be able to go and enjoy themselves. You don't want to be with this girl. You just smoking cigars, drinking liquor, and she's naked. That's what it is. I would want my man to go and have fun with his boys, even if that means they fishing or they gambling or if they go to the strip club. Cause now what? Are you hot and ready for me? Come on home. Come on home and let me take that where she done got you ready?
- [46:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you ever sit back and wish as you've gone on this journey and you've been so successful, Cheryl, do you wish you had someone by your side to share it with?
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. I wish my husband had lived. I wish my husband had not taken his own life. But there's nothing I can do about that. I only can accept God's will. I had a whole plan for our lives, you know, And I've dated some really great, great men. And I don't believe there's anything wrong with me. I believe that it might not have been the right time, but would I have wanted to have a husband that would have gone through all of this with me? Absolutely. So I can turn to him and go, baby, we did it.
- [47:26]
Shannon Sharpe
When your husband took his life, Mm. Did you do any self reflection? Did you like what was going on? What side? What did I miss? Was it me? Was it something that I didn't know about he was dealing with? Did you ever ask yourself those questions?
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. I mean, I got on my knees, I started to bargain with God, and I had. You know how you sleep, but your eyes are open a little cracked open. And you can. I could hear the radio playing. I could hear. And something said to me, he's gone. And then the phone rang, and then I got a call. And, you know, I was in the military, you know, so I was in the reserve. I was a medic in the reserve. And I know what that phone call is. They don't tell you what's happened because they need you to get to the hospital. So they want me to get to the hospital. And as soon as they told me, I fell out. You know, like they doin'oh. Lord. I lied, Jesus. I fell out and everything. But before that, I knew he was gone. Because I believe that the Lord sent me the message. And I got on my knees and I started to ask God. I started to bargain with God. And then I caught myself, and I was ashamed that I did. You cannot bargain with God. His will be done. That's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
You always say in the Our Father's Prayer, you say, let thy will be done.
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Unknown Speaker
Thy will be done. I had to accept it. And then for me, I was asking myself, what, Maybe. But in getting therapy. And one of my good sorority sisters, Dr. Benny Reams, a mentor of mine, Zeta Phi Beta, she. I was going to therapist, but sometimes you gotta find the right therapist to go to. And she. She's a family therapist. And she was helping me navigate this situation and let me know when a person is in a depressive state. And that's why mental health of men, especially black men, very important. Cause they're taught to keep their feelings inside. So don't tell nobody, right? That's right. So he would either be here and then down here, he'd be up here, and then he'd go down into the valley of death. And there was nothing I could do about it. But I was young. Young married woman. I wanted to be married. I wanted to be in these clubs, making this money, working on my master's degree, being in the reserve, doing everything that we were building together. And I love a wounded bird. I love a man who needs me, and I need him. And we gonna grow together. But I think, as my daddy say, don't why me? Why not you? So you believe heartache and tragedy not supposed to come to your door. But it comes to everybody else's door. You better learn, son, how to get yourself together. And it taught me I don't have the power of life or death over anybody. Only God has that power, right? But I did think about how can I be better? And in every relationship I've ever had, I look back at myself and go, how can you be better? So when he comes, when the groom that God is sending me comes, I will be ready.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Unknown Speaker
Damn, that's deep as hell shit.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you've been in LA all this time?
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Unknown Speaker
Uh huh.
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Shannon Sharpe
You been to them Hollywood parties?
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Unknown Speaker
Um, I've been to a few parties.
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Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, first of all, I don't partake because sometimes I forget to lotion my whole body. So you can't get bucky naked? Yeah, no. They'll pass you by. They'll pass you by. But I've seen a few things. I've thrown a couple of parties myself. Huh? Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
How you have a party to invite me? I'm your 32 years. What? Man, you known longer than me.
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Unknown Speaker
You bring all that big ass, you bring that Louisville swagger up in here, you bring that Savannah salt bone up in here, the party is over. You done bust out lights and shit. Soon as you pull that out, all the bitches get in the car. I'm not doing that. But I've thrown a couple of consensual. I don't go to the freaky, freaky stuff. It used to be a movie called Blue. It was a blue collar Yafet Cotto, Richard Pryor and Harvey Cottell. They were, I think they were cars, workers or something. And they had a little freak party. I was throwing something similar to that where everybody consented, but nobody being filmed. And it wasn't coerced or anything like that. But I'm not the greatest. I don't do things where people can see you're private.
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Shannon Sharpe
You much too private for that.
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely, absolutely. And I tell people what you see ain't what happened. Don't tell nobody or you're not gonna get invited to the next one. That's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
What are your thoughts on women using their body to ascend in the industry?
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Unknown Speaker
I feel if that's what gets you there, okay. I mean, a little sex appeal, I understand that. But if you are sleeping to get to the top, you must continue to sleep to get to the top. That means you have to leave the dude that got you there and go to the dude that's gonna take you even higher. And people say, well, Cheryl, have you ever been proposition? Yeah, but it doesn't work out. Because, I mean, I've been asked, if you do this, you can go on the road with me. If you do this, I'll give you this part in this movie. If you do this, I'll do this. And I've told men, okay, how about we renegotiate now, that's where I'm up, right there. Am I right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He already told you what the deal was.
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Unknown Speaker
Okay. I think I should give a counter proposal. Okay? If you. That's a. I'm a business person.
- [53:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
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Unknown Speaker
If you tell me I'm doing this, first of all, if I'm sleeping with you to advance my career or go on the road, why am I. If I'm supposed to be your lady, I'm retired. I am now your woman. I am now here to meet every need you need. Now get out there and make more money. Cause I'm here when you get back. I got food cooked, I got clothes from the dry clean. I got everything you need, if that's the offer. But that ain't really the true offer. You just want to see if I'm down. Now, if you want to holler at me, holla at me. Now, I have told some men, really big time men, hey, you wanna do this? Why don't you wait until we're equals? We could and it's unequal. How about we wait until we're equals and make love as a team? Now what you want? And most men back down. Cause I ain't no gum. I ain't no gum. Either you want it forever or you don't want it at all. So you think you gonna get some of this and I'm supposed to fall for the okie doke, but you gonna grow my career. And I'm still doing taverns. How stupid do I look that I done gave you some ass for that? Cause now you don't have nothing to bargain with, Right? Am I right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he done got it now somewhere.
- [54:22]
Unknown Speaker
Yes, that's right. What does he need now? So that's why the answer is, let's renegotiate.
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Shannon Sharpe
Taraji and Monique, there's like, look, look, we're illegal playing field. We don't get the compensation that the fair compensation that we deserve. And we need the industry to take a reboot. And look at this.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
What are your thoughts on that, Cheryl?
- [54:49]
Unknown Speaker
One, I'm proud that Tyler Perry and others, the Carl Webers, the Dave Talbots, everybody that's out there producing, even the sisters, the Issa Rays, everybody that's out there making, I'll say it again, Regina King, I think, is a genius. It's the financing that you have to get. And because the system doesn't seem to be set up to appreciate our audience and what we do, it seems like that they think when it's about black people, it's only for us. And white people are voyeuristic or other race people are voyeuristic and looking at us from the outside in. If that's the case, then why is rap so powerful? If it's just us, Right. I believe that we as talent should be paid equal to anybody. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [55:44]
Unknown Speaker
But I also understand that the system seems to want to lowball the situation. And unfortunately, our people think that when you're in the entertainment business, you are wealthy beyond measure. The job may be few and far between. I am no longer on the talk. Talk went off the air middle of December, almost end of December. I am back on the road. That's why we mixing and mingling in 2025. So I can pay, continue to pay my bills even though I'm saving money for retirement. Here's the catch of this. I understand what Taraji is saying, what Monique is saying, and I even spoke to Monique about this. And people say, well, why you didn't support? Why you didn't support. I don't believe if my voice cannot help the situation, I will not say something that would allow my voice to be used against the situation. You know what I'm saying? But we all could be paid more money. But I understand who I am to the industry. You see what I'm saying? And no, everything's not gonna be fair. But if we look at this as a commerce and numbers game, they cannot do anything without us. If we decide one day we're gonna sit down and you figure this out. If every football player sat down, basketball player sat down and maybe said, if the basketball player sat down and said, until you pay the WNBA a little bit more money or a lot more money, we're not gonna play.
- [57:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
- [57:16]
Unknown Speaker
You gotta have some leverage. Am I correct in that discussion?
- [57:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. You gotta have. You gotta have something to bargain. If you wanna bargain.
- [57:23]
Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. And I think when you're making content, we already know when they make content for themselves, a white man will probably always get paid more money because there are people that still believe, well, the white man is the head of the household and he's got to take care of the wife and the children. Well, I'm the head of the household until I get married. And even if I do have a husband, I should be paid fairly. And I think that's all Monique and Taraji was saying. I think. I don't know. I could be wrong.
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Shannon Sharpe
When do you like okay, the counter versus okay, I push too much, I might lose this deal. How do you walk that fine line?
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Unknown Speaker
My intuition is rarely off. I know what my number is that I think I should get, but I also do a lot of research. I have inside people I call around what is so and so getting what is so and so getting? I remember Sherri shepherd helping me when I got the job at the Talk. But I also understand I'm not gonna overplay my hand, right? I always tell my representatives, my lawyer, do not negotiate this away. Negotiate a win a W I n I want the job. I will take this amount of money so I can grow it. When I came to the talk in season two, I asked God, show me favor, Lord, let me stay here as long as I can so I can build. And I was there till the last episode. So sometimes, like my daddy said, you got to live low to get high. Sometimes you take less money, but you get longevity if you can stand it. If you can stand it. But sometimes you can't stand it, or sometime it's unfair. Then you got to have an ally. I call it the fairy godmother or the fairy godfather. It's somebody that's going to come in and go, no, no, no, no, we're not going to pay that. What is that? Craft service money. What was that? We're not going to do that. You got to have somebody on your side that will go in and say, no, this is what we're going to do. Somebody put their thumb on the scale.
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Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned earlier that you lost over 100 pounds. You took we go, yeah, I'm on WeGovy right now.
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Unknown Speaker
Started on Saxcender. Now I'm on WeGovy.
- [61:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Weekly injection to help suppress appetite instead of getting gastric bypass surgery.
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Unknown Speaker
Uh huh.
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Shannon Sharpe
What has that done for you, Cheryl?
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Unknown Speaker
I believe that the medication changes your impulses. Reward impulses. Also anxiety impulses. As you notice, I'm calmer than I've ever been.
- [62:01]
Shannon Sharpe
You are.
- [62:02]
Unknown Speaker
Since we've known each other all these years. Yes, because I can be a rascal, I can be a rambunctious. But I thank God for having a black doctor, Dr. Zoe Morell. I'm not saying nothing against my white doctor. Dr. Copeland is an amazing doctor over at Cedars Sinai and he's gotten me this far.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
But I will tell you to be able to handle weight and stress and high blood pressure and pre diabetes and things like that. Now I enjoy walking, I enjoy drinking water, I enjoy e vegetables and everything. I enjoy it with everything else that I enjoy in life because I believe when the Bible say everything God made was good, I enjoy that. And you get to a certain age and comedy on the road is a. Is a rough life. It's a great life. But you're going to eat in fast food places and certain places, you're going to stay up late, you're going to sleep in and things like that. I enjoy being able to exercise and do the things I want to do and I want to do it as a lifestyle change. It is. The ejection got me to where I need to go, and I'll probably stay on this for the rest of my life. The studies that I've read seem to suggest that you stay on it for the rest of your life. And I'd love to testify before Congress and be a representative of one of these companies so that we need to lower the price of these medications. When you get them overseas, they're about two thirds cheaper than what they are here in the United States. The other thing is, if you get me healthier, I can pay you more insurance premium. Wouldn't you want that more than an amputation? Because maybe that's what the doctor think is the thing that he needs to do. A lot of doctors don't believe in the medications, right? Oh, you could just exercise. Well, some people need assistance, and I want to be the example of that to show this works. It just needs to be cheaper. If I wasn't living the life that I'm living, I wouldn't be able to pay for it. And now that's why I got to keep working so I can keep paying for it. But I love how I look, I love how I feel, and I want other people to be able to get these medications.
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Shannon Sharpe
You mentioned your show, the Talk. I mean, you were on, what, 15 seasons?
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Unknown Speaker
I came season two. I was about 14.
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Shannon Sharpe
14 seasons. And you see all these other. Jennifer Hudson has one. Ellen left hers.
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Unknown Speaker
Sherri Shepherd.
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Shannon Sharpe
Did you ever want to be on a daytime talk show? You ever think it was possible?
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Unknown Speaker
You mean when I was getting a phone call? I mean, so before I got the job.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Before you got the job, did you think you were.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, really, what happened? I was working a club in New York called Caroline.
- [64:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
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Unknown Speaker
And Sherri shepherd was on the View. So I came to see her do the View. We've been friends for years, and she. Reba McIntyre was the guest. And I love Reba McIntyre. You know, I'm country. I love country music.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
You know, go ahead, Beyonce, you know, so Reba McIntyre was guest. I'm screaming, you know, ah, Reba.
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Shannon Sharpe
I like.
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Unknown Speaker
She was like, ooh, bitch, don't touch me. No, I'm just kidding. But I love Reba McIntyre. Love all her songs. So I hear Sherry leaning over. Sherry introducing me to the audience. And everybody, the people that know me clap. And Sherry leans over to Joy Behar and go, you know, you should get Cheryl Underwood to do your comedy corner. And Whoopi Co signs it, and I go on the show and I do some political humor and just tear it apart. And they invite me back And I do it again. I never thought someone like me could even do it, you know, or be afforded to do it. And to watch Loni Love, you know, out there doing it. Comedy is a great female. Comedy is a great sorority. I'm a Zeta in the Black sorority, the NPACs. Right. The four sororities, aka Delta Semi Gamma Rho and Zeta Phi Beta. But to be a female comic, it's a great thing. So when one of us succeeds, all of us succeeds. So for me to get that job, the pride in my colleague's face, male and female, the hugging Mike Epps comes on the show. We hugging George Lopez. All of us are hugging Kevin Hart. We're all hugging each other. If I could have got more people on, I would have.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Unknown Speaker
But to be able to do it, if God could put all of this together in six days and rest on the seventh, he can open doors for all of us, and I'm just proud to be there. And I'm probably the only person that's hosted the Daytime Emmys five times. I love daytime tv. I'd love to have my own talk show. So the podcast would be like a talk show?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
And I'd be able to talk in relaxed language and interview everybody I want to. Okay, can we do it in Los Angeles? Cause I don't. You know, I don't like to drive. I can't drive. Good. I can't drive. I drive. All right. I'm Driving Miss Daisy. I can't.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Where we do it, I'm sure that probably LA would probably do it.
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Unknown Speaker
You heard him here, boys and girls. He said, wait a minute. I done asked the most important question. How much do I get paid for this?
- [67:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I mean, it'd probably be a partnership, so, you know, there ain't gonna be a whole lot.
- [67:12]
Unknown Speaker
You don't wanna be a partnership in love. How you gonna be a partnership in a podcast? This sound like some bullshit.
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Shannon Sharpe
This is CJ expertise.
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Unknown Speaker
Oh, so we gonna make it. We gonna make a podcast?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. No, we. Yeah, we gonna produce it and things.
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Unknown Speaker
Like that, but under. Yo.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
How much? The percentage of the podcast. How much is partnership?
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I mean, it's gonna probably have to be. I mean, we all gotta put something up. So we do 50.
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Unknown Speaker
50. That don't sound right. Huh? That don't sound right.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm in charge of production.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I got. I mean, I gotta have producers, we gotta have graphics, we gotta have editors.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah. And you gonna get all of that back?
- [67:50]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
I think your percentage should be lower.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think my percentage should be lower.
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Unknown Speaker
Cause you get when we make money.
- [67:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Cause I put. I'm funding the upfront.
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Unknown Speaker
You assume the risk. Okay, so, okay, this is how it sounds, boys and girls. So you're gonna assume the risk?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [68:03]
Unknown Speaker
You gonna assume the risk?
- [68:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [68:04]
Unknown Speaker
But you don't believe it's gonna work.
- [68:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I believe twice. You get 60. 40. 60.
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Unknown Speaker
40.
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Shannon Sharpe
60. Yeah.
- [68:10]
Unknown Speaker
You must have me up with some other 60 for.
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Shannon Sharpe
Honey, are you going out to get sponsors?
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Unknown Speaker
That's like. That's like. Now I'm about to say something really sexual. That's like we. And you give me 40% of the. Where do we do that?
- [68:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, let me ask you a question. Are you going out to get advertising sponsors or.
- [68:28]
Unknown Speaker
I can sit with you. I can sit with you. Integration. Are we going to get integration?
- [68:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [68:34]
Unknown Speaker
Hell, yeah. I'm right by your side now. What you now now 65? No, no, I go, maybe. I don't know, 5,000, 248 maybe.
- [68:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Cheryl.
- [68:47]
Unknown Speaker
What?
- [68:47]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm assuming the risk. I'm the one that's got the camera crew. I got. I got the people.
- [68:52]
Unknown Speaker
That is why we are not together this day. You don't know how to take a good offer. You ain't. You ain't shit. Is a businessman.
- [69:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Now you try to swindle me.
- [69:03]
Unknown Speaker
Who swindle? I don't. I'm trying to get the best deal possible for our future. Wouldn't you want to have 48% of an empire with success?
- [69:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I like 52%.
- [69:14]
Unknown Speaker
Then it's 60% of nothing. See that, boys and girls?
- [69:19]
Shannon Sharpe
But on the show, I mean, obviously, I think you had a very, very good relationship with Julie Chan. And it was very open because she revealed that she's had plastic surgery. She had. Had a cosmetic procedure to make her eyes look more.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I mean, obviously, that was revealing. I'm sure her community weren't very happy about that. Just like any community, when you have procedures done that tries to remove you from said community, people are not gonna be happy about that. So what brought about that? Why was that? Obviously, that was something that you guys.
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Unknown Speaker
Had talked about when I first got to the talk. Remember, it's my first consistent TV show job.
- [70:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
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Unknown Speaker
And it was daytime tv. Julie and I had a connection, a chemistry. She was the moderator, and she would tee up the joke. You know, she would tee it up for me. And I would either look at her like, I got it, I'm about to hit it out the park, you know, or I don't think I Got something bigger than what was going to be said or what has already been said when Aisha Tyler came. Because by the time I was there, Aisha Tyler was auditioning. I knew Aisha Tyler. Aisha and I worked together at Montreal Comedy Fest. This girl's a genius. The great actor, great director and a great comic. So I asked God, she was like, well, put in a good word for me. I said, girl, I don't run nothing but my mouth in here. And I touched her hand and I bowed my head and I started to pray. And I asked God, put us together so that the world can see two different types of female comedians, but two black, black funny women. And we were doing these jokes. This is how good of a moderator Julie was that she let us go back and forth with these jokes. And we were doing who was poorer than who. You know how comedians like the Battery, Judge Jones and everything. So Aisha said that she was so poor that they didn't have shoes for their feet. I said, bitch, we were so poor, we didn't even have feet. We just walked on bloody stuff, bones and blood just squirting out everywhere. So everybody was laughing so hard because they had never seen that kind of organic chemistry. And I will say this, sitting beside every woman and man that's been on that show taught me something to the good. I miss everybody. I love everybody. But The Dream Team 5, Julie Chin Moonves, Aisha Tyler, Sharon Osborne and Sarah Gilbert. Sarah Gilbert, who created this show. It was the greatest experience of my life working with a team of women who were at the time top of their game. And I love Julie. Julie was teeing up jokes for me, but also we were teeing up great conversation. We were teeing up things in the news. Donald Sterling, remember the coach was a Sandusky. That was Penn State and all of that. So we were teeing up those types of things on a show that people saying, we don't do politics, you don't have to do politics. People don't want you to argue politics, but they do want to be enlightened, entertained, impact and laugh in the show. And that's what we did. And I think that's why we won Emmys.
- [72:23]
Shannon Sharpe
But you did have a public fallout. I had obviously had a public, very public fallout with my co host in that moment. Was it what she said or was it who said it?
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Unknown Speaker
I will say my start of it. I remember talking to Piers Morgan and I remember talking to them and trying to get them to understand are the community's feelings about Meghan Markle Mm. Her mother, Meghan Markle. Mother live in Windsor Hills. Now, this may be a joke, but live in Windsor Hills. And now she's in Windsor Palace.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
With Harry. They obviously love each other. They done had a black wedding. Pastor. A black pastor, a black choir. You know, Charles over there looking. You know, Camilla need to get her face together. Cause they in love with each other. If the queen like it, then everybody love it. Right. But you can't speak against Megan and disregard what she's feeling. As a black woman, isolated, stressed, pregnant, having a baby or whatever. We were not gonna take that lightly. So you might wanna back off of this. And I think that's where it stemmed from. And I tried to say it off the air, and I said it a couple of times to Pierce on the air, you know, to get off air. You know what I'm saying? So we love her, you know, and she's got her happily ever after. She's married to Prince Harry. Get off of her. And I think there was a. I don't know. What would you say it was? What would you say for what you saw?
- [74:01]
Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is, is that when you mention. When you. Like, if I tell you something off air, don't try to bring it back. Because I think. I think in a situation like this, she thought you were gonna take a different approach publicly as opposed to you took privately.
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Unknown Speaker
Well, here's the thing. I will say this. In production.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [74:23]
Unknown Speaker
Just like you have your questions on your card.
- [74:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [74:25]
Unknown Speaker
Right. If you're producing a show, everybody's talking about what's gonna be said and what the response will be.
- [74:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
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Unknown Speaker
Right. So if you're talking about what's gonna be said and what the response will be, and then if it does turn into a. If it takes an off ramp, I call it an off ramp. So you could be talking about something that you already talked about, but then it takes an off ramp. It's not like you didn't know what.
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Shannon Sharpe
Was going to happen, potentially to happen. Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
Right. Or you didn't know it was gonna be safe, I think. And for people to say, do you talk to Sharon? Do you still care about. You don't sit next to somebody for 10 years and don't have a feeling for her and her family, you know. But I will tell you, from what some people saw, I equate this to O.J. simpson. Two different communities see two different things. Right. Two different communities see two different things. I still get trolled to this day in that situation. But I believe that when I stepped in it earlier, I believe that God said, servant, something bigger is coming and it's going to happen. I need you to be prepared for what's coming. You know, me shouting, you know, if somebody's yelling at me, you know, I'm not crying because you hurt me. I'm crying because I can't say what I want to say, what I want to say. Just like when somebody told you, put my glasses back. There you go. What would you have wanted to do? Old shame.
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Shannon Sharpe
I wouldn't have had the show. I wouldn't be on espn. I wouldn't have anything.
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Unknown Speaker
Cause God was preparing you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
You will face this obstacle somewhere else. And that's why you see me sit there. And when I hear my. When she's yelling, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? And I turn to the camera and.
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Shannon Sharpe
Go, we're going to.
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Unknown Speaker
We'll be right back. That let the world know she's ready to be here. But also, I represent every black woman in the world. We cannot be seen as the angry black woman. Because now you messing up somebody else's job somewhere else. Right. But I was prepared for that. I didn't do anything wrong. Matter of fact, I'm trying to articulate this in a different way, in a.
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Shannon Sharpe
Way that you would understand.
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Unknown Speaker
Right. What would you say to people who think that. But if an explosion occurs, what would have been the best thing to do? Come back and hug it out at the commercial. Am I right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
That would have been daytime gold, wouldn't it? Okay, see, that takes two to have an altercation.
- [76:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
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Unknown Speaker
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
It also takes two to reconcile, too.
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Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you reconcile on air, everybody. Kumbaya Moses. Right? But if you double down on it and if you type in right now, there are things being said that I will not answer. Why? One, I'm not going to go tit for tat and keep something going. I'm going to go on to the greatness that God is opening doors for all of us.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
If you don't look inside yourself and get better. Right. But me sitting up there arguing with my colleague who I care for. And then after that, she makes a special. And after that, she continues to say things. Recently say things. Come on, Sherl. What you gonna keep doing? Cause it's like a man.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, look, my grandma used to say, boy, stirring up old poop, it still stinks.
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Unknown Speaker
That's it.
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Shannon Sharpe
So that was my thing. It wasn't what he said.
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Unknown Speaker
Yes, it was.
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Shannon Sharpe
Who said it?
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Unknown Speaker
That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
I've been sitting across from this man for six years. I thought, look, are we best friends now? No. But I thought we had the type of relationship that was respectful.
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Unknown Speaker
There you go.
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Shannon Sharpe
And you would give me a certain level of respect as I've always given you.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's all I ask. I don't ask anything more. I'm not saying you have to be my best friend.
- [78:10]
Unknown Speaker
That's right.
- [78:10]
Shannon Sharpe
We don't have to hang out. We ain't got to go to dinner. You ain't coming to my house, I'm not going to yours.
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Unknown Speaker
That's right.
- [78:14]
Shannon Sharpe
But at least we can be cordial. We can be respectful of one another.
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Unknown Speaker
Sometimes you find out who you thought was your friend is really your co worker.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Unknown Speaker
Am I right?
- [78:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You're absolutely right.
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Unknown Speaker
And then you find out. Cause we all gonna step in it again. This is where talk show is. You probably. I say stuff that the community is mad about.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
But on those days where the community. We rode hard for you.
- [78:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Unknown Speaker
We was on. I wish I would.
- [78:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [78:41]
Unknown Speaker
You know what I'm saying? And you held it together and so did I. Typing. They was on it. Nothing. But I would afford somebody grace and forgiveness, just like I would want grace and forgiveness to be afforded to me. And I feel like the only thing is the trolling, the people who, you know, these dumb thugs, these people on the Internet, anonymous. And you this, you that. I done been all kind of. I done been all kind of. You this, you that. You don't even know me. You don't know nothing about me. But if that's what you want to do, you want to do. But I'm not giving you none. I'm not. You want me to give you some. Cut me a check. I'll sit right across from me and I'll give you what you. This will BE Morton Downey Jr. Meets Jerry Springer. We gonna yell and act crazy, and then you and old boy gonna come on and y'all gonna do the next half hour and we gonna make a fortune. That's a partnership right there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Exactly. Let me ask you this. We're gonna get out here on this because I wanted. I wanted to get to your upbringing. You had a very rough upbringing. How did that upbringing shape the Cheryl that's sitting across from me right now?
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Unknown Speaker
Survival. Survival. You know, when, you know sexual molestation, sexual violence at a young age, Was.
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Shannon Sharpe
It a family friend? Was it a family member? Was it someone that you were close?
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Unknown Speaker
You know, there's always people going in and through neighborhoods in and through households and everything. It does sexualize you. And I wish people would understand that males and females, it sexualized you. If you read the Bible, you know, read Song of Solomon, the body was made for procreation and that goodness of that. The body understands that. But if you're not old enough and mature enough to handle it, it changes you. Well, first thing I thought, being molested, you know, the first thing I thought was, I'm going to protect my sister. So it was no longer about me, it was about my sister. So I became violent. You want to bring some? You gonna get some, you know? So I became a violent person. But I never mechanized that. But I was always on protection mode. You know, when I was raped, the first thing I thought was, was, you need to survive this. You need to survive. I was on my way to reserve duty. I was out, stationed out at O'Hare Field early in the morning. And I thought to myself, you need to survive. So much so that I was telling my rapist, don't take my id. That is a government id. Do you want some fed charges? Right. So I'm thinking, survive so he doesn't kill you. Right. And I rarely talk about this, but my whole life is about survivors survival. That's I will survive. You know? What's that song? Oh, no, not I. I will survive. I'm going to survive. That's right. I'm going to survive this and every other obstacle put in my path. I'm going to survive. There's something God needs me to do here, and I'm going to stay here to do it and be open to his will, even if I don't understand it.
- [81:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Unknown Speaker
So that's. That's my whole life. And I wanted to. People say, well, why is your act so sexual? Because I wanted my sexuality back from those who took it. I'm going to be what I feel I can be. I'm a hell of a kisser. Hell of a kisser. Hell of a. Listen to me. But if I had let this overtake me and I collapsed, I would never be able to express attraction for a man that I love.
- [82:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this. You had a twin. I don't know if people know this. You had a twin sister.
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Unknown Speaker
Mm.
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Shannon Sharpe
She didn't make it.
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Unknown Speaker
Mm.
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Shannon Sharpe
You kept her birth certificate. I don't know if you still have it.
- [82:38]
Unknown Speaker
The little feet. Yes, the little feet.
- [82:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Under.
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Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
You kept that.
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Unknown Speaker
Mm.
- [82:42]
Shannon Sharpe
And I read that your mom lied to you about what really happened to your sister.
- [82:48]
Unknown Speaker
Absolutely. Who you been talking to in my family? I Mean, I need something in my family.
- [82:54]
Shannon Sharpe
When you obviously. When you found out that what was being said to you wasn't true, how did that make you feel about your mom?
- [83:02]
Unknown Speaker
I wanted my mother's love more than anything. And that's probably why I'm so attracted to wounded birds or something like that. Cause I wanted my mother's love. But it was the pain of my father telling me I didn't do that. Telling me the truth is what made me closer to my father. Because I was determined to go and find out his side. You know, my birth mother stabbed my father, and I witnessed it. I wanted to find out, what is it? What is it? They were young. You know, I love my mother. But God sent me another mother. My mother. That's how much the Lord loved me, to send me motherly love. Right. But it was my father that was going through pain as a young man, that nobody understood what he was doing. Until he died. I really didn't know how old my father was. Because at that time, period, you know, black men carry themselves much, much older. Right?
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Unknown Speaker
And when I saw the tombstone, I said, your dates are wrong. They said, no, your father's this age. And then I put the numbers together. My father was a young man. A young man. So to be able to talk to my father and go, tell me the truth. What happened? And he tell me the truth. And we hugged, and we got to know each other, and we were strong together. If you can fix it while they alive, fix it, fix it. Give grace and forgiveness. And that's what he gave to me.
- [84:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Do a part of you feel that your parents didn't protect you from this abuse?
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Unknown Speaker
I think that my father thought that a little girl should be living with her mother. Until he was hearing continuously what was going on with me. And he asked me to forgive him. And I looked at life, and I was like, I understood why you couldn't take me. You know what I mean? No matter how bad I wanted you to take me.
- [84:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Mm.
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Unknown Speaker
But I would say, well, I will tell you a couple of times, my brothers whooped that ass. My older brothers. Listen, my brothers wasn't no punk, you know? Listen, I love my family members. Cause they protected me as much as they could, you know? And some people, they call you fast or, you know, something like that. But I will tell you this. I love my family. You know, they didn't do everything right. And neither did, you know.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's the only one you got.
- [85:34]
Unknown Speaker
That's right. I got a great family. I got great memories. And if My mother was alive to see how much of her is within me. I would have wanted her to. I can hear her, you know, I can see her. I'm looking at pictures. This is my mother's face too.
- [85:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Your mother never got a chance to see this, Cheryl.
- [85:55]
Unknown Speaker
No, no, no. She died before it could happen. She saw the work, up to it. But having a strange relationship with your mother, that's your origin. So you're searching for that love. So any man getting with me understands what I'm searching for, you know, but my father, My father always had my back. Always. And would tell me, you can do it. Your brain. That's right. Made by the same brain that made Bill Gates or all these other famous billionaires. God made your brain and they brain. So I have a great life. I don't want nobody to feel pity or sadness for me, but I do want them to understand who I am and why I am the way I am.
- [86:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Cheryl, I'm gonna get you out of here on this. As a person that's dealt with childhood trauma, what would you tell someone that's going through something similar? And what would you tell yourself having over one.
- [86:53]
Unknown Speaker
Put the butcher knife down. Cause once you kill. Once you kill. Listen to me. Listen to me. And I will tell you this. I live a great life as an educated woman, but I'm still closer to the streets because when I was raped, street dudes said, if I find him, I'm gonna kill him. I said, do not kill on my behalf.
- [87:21]
Shannon Sharpe
I appreciate why you didn't want that on you. Why do you didn't want that on your conscience.
- [87:24]
Unknown Speaker
I didn't want that blood on my hands. But I knew if they found him, they was going to kill him. And that's what he said to me. If I find him, I'm going to kill him. Right? But that's. You want that? That's dashing in our community. You want a group of black men to go search.
- [87:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You want retribution?
- [87:42]
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah. But vengeance of mine, sayeth the Lord, but I'm not the Lord. And I sometimes I got that taste in my mouth for vengeance. But you got to control that. But I thank street dudes for always coming to my rescue, always having my back, you know? So to me, I. I've lived a great life. I. I've had angels around me that I didn't even know. So what would I tell myself? Put the butcher knife down so you can survive. You're not going to survive in jail. If you do it, where will your sister go? What will Your family think. Don't disrespect the Underwood name.
- [88:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. What's next for Cheryl Underwood?
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Unknown Speaker
Sky's the limit podcast. 7525 split. How you done?
- [88:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Go 25%.
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Unknown Speaker
Your favorite doctor.
- [88:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Anything you wanna promote.
- [88:38]
Unknown Speaker
The Mix and Mingle Tour, tell them about it. That's okay. I'm on Instagram. What is it? Instagram, Facebook. I just got on TikTok. What's popular? Snapchat. I'm on X. I'm on X by way of Twitter. I think I got more followers over there, but I'm learning it all. So follow me. It's S H E R Y L and the last name is Underwood. Follow me on all of them. I got a great tour. It's the Mix and Mingle Tour. Please come to see us buy these tickets. Cause this is how I finance everything. Kyle Irby, Mike Washington. And there's something at the end for the fellas. And I got a sports initiative that I'm definitely gonna need your help on. Young boys as young as three years old, as old as 18, will study lacrosse, baseball, tennis, golf and soccer and other sports. So if. Listen. Jim Brown was the greatest lacrosse player. He told me this on a plane ride. He was the greatest lacrosse player who couldn't make money in lacrosse. What if we get our kids into lacrosse and then they can go into other sports? Well, I want to finance that. More to come.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cheryl Underwood, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you 8 Lounge at Resorts World Las Vegas for allowing Club Shay Shay to film our episode here today. Keep up with 8Lounge on social media at 8Lounge LV at Resorts World. LV on my life Been grinding all.
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Unknown Speaker
My life Sacrifice hustle paid the price Wanna slice, Got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life Look. All my life Been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle paid the price Want a slice? Got the rolling dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my.
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Shannon Sharpe
Life, sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa foreign.
- [94:20]
Cheryl Underwood
At my house, there are a few things that are must haves on my checklist. My fellow friends and fans. Check my favorite jersey, it is good luck. Check. An iconic drink that's a fan favorite.
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Unknown Speaker
Check.
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Cheryl Underwood
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Unknown Speaker
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Cheryl Underwood
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