Club Shay Shay - Sukihana Part 1

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Sukihana Part 1 (May 6, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe

Guest: Sukihana

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Episode Overview

In this lively and unfiltered conversation, Shannon Sharpe sits down with reality TV star, rapper, and outspoken social media personality Sukihana. Part 1 of the interview dives into her life as a mother, her unconventional journey through the entertainment industry, and her bold outlook on love, family, and authenticity. Sukihana candidly discusses her upbringing, her approach to motherhood, her experiences with fame, struggles, setbacks, and her refusal to conform or apologize for her unique persona.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family, Motherhood, and Pregnancy

• Motherhood as Identity

  • Sukihana is expecting her fourth child and speaks about her pride in being a mother:

    “I'm a fruitful queen. Oh, Lord Jesus, I can have 10 more children. God said be fruitful. That's what I'm here for.” (05:18)

  • She sees motherhood as her most important and fulfilling role:

    “Out of everything I done did in life, my favorite part of life is being a mom...I would give everything back. I would not give that.” (08:33)

• Pregnancy & Lifestyle Choices

  • Discusses plans for a natural birth with doulas, her fears, and her determination:

    “I have doulas right now, and we are wanting to go full natural...I don’t really wanna do the hospital.” (07:14)

  • Humor regarding pregnancy cravings and boundaries:

    “I'm not eating ass for sure. Cause nobody need to be eating ass while they pregnant. That ain't right. Like, have some class, you know what I'm saying?” (06:08)

• Children and Exposure to Her Work

  • Strict about not letting her children consume her explicit music:

    “My music is strictly for adults...my kids don't want to listen to my music. Hell no. I let my kids be kids.” (14:31)

  • She monitors their media and activities:

    “I feel like parents should monitor everything that their children do, from their tablets to the music they listen to...” (18:28)

• Relationship with Child’s Father

  • Sukihana is frank about her co-parenting and relationships:

    “He wanna keep knocking me up. Yeah, he already trying to plan the next one.” (09:10)

  • Honest about the realities of birth control, joking about its unreliability in her case:

    “I was on two forms of birth control. One was the natural and then one was Plan B. That's birth control.” (09:49)

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2. Upbringing, Early Struggle, and Path to Fame

• Childhood and Strong Black Identity

  • Raised in Wilmington, Delaware, attended a Swahili and cultural arts school:

    “I went to a cultural art school, a prominently black school, Swahili school...I really support black power.” (37:26)

  • Experienced bullying and developed resilience:

    “They said I got a big nose. They making fun of my skin. Yeah, we whooping at...But luckily, I had a lot of love from my grandma.” (56:58, 53:27)

• Education and Learning Challenges

  • Details her struggles with school, ADHD, being placed in special classes, and eventual homeschooling:

    “I had ADHD...needed special attention...But you had to go to a different class to get that, right?” (55:04) “You can't just put 30 kids in a class and have one teacher and think everybody's gonna learn at the same pace...” (54:50)

  • Open about dropping out and finding her path through action and practical learning:

    “I tried. Then I dropped out of that, too, but my mom was homeschooling us...She's really good at it.” (58:22, 58:36)

• Path Through Hard Times

  • Discusses dancing at a strip club while pregnant out of necessity:

    “I was dancing, I had to figure it out. I ain't had no money, and I lost my id, so nobody was about to hire me.” (26:07) “I ain't make that much. And I didn’t dance that long. But hold on. I was doing right. Cause I could have been selling pussy.” (27:02)

  • Raw about lack of support and moving to Atlanta for a better future.

    “He broke me down until I had nothing left to give. I had $300 in my pocket. I took me and my kids to Atlanta.” (45:01)

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3. Career and Persona: Authenticity & Hustle

• Breakthrough and Going Viral

  • Viral moment came from a funny, provocative rap clip in front of her mom's house:

    “I'm five foot but my throat six, six. I'mma ride suck of me...And your man ate my coochie like chicken nuggets.” (59:57)

  • Embracing her identity as "Suki with the good coochie":

    “That’s my name. You can call me Sukiana if you want to but everybody know I'm Suki with the good coochie. They can’t take that from me.” (66:37) “Nobody ain’t say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never.” (66:57)

• Reality TV: Jerry Springer, Love & Hip Hop, Baddies

  • First TV appearance: Jerry Springer, then quickly picked up by Love & Hip Hop Miami:

    “Jerry Springer...the producers reached out and they was like, we need you on the show...shortly after, Love & Hip Hop reached out.” (67:02, 69:04)

  • Experience on “Baddies,” expectations of conflict, and her unfiltered presence:

    “It's a dog eat dog world on there...those people love to watch fights...it's fun.” (78:43) “When I go on tv, I wanna be funny. I wanna have fun, you know? But I don't kick it with everybody.” (80:51)

• Standing Up for Herself

  • Not afraid to fight back (literally and figuratively):

    “Yeah, I did. I tore her ass up. I’ll do it again.” (76:31, about fighting someone for using the N-word) “I demand respect. When I go in a room, I’m gonna get it...you feel me? I will take it there.” (73:13)

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4. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Motherhood:

  “My favorite part of life is being a mom. Loving children, teaching children, and being there for them.” (08:33)

• On Struggle and Resilience:

  “I put everybody in position and, you know, I love everybody and I take care of pretty much everybody to my best ability.” (48:32)

• On Being Authentic:

  “I’m easy to love because I love automatically. That’s how my grandma raised me. So I’m okay with giving love. I’m a listener, and I’m a giver.” (32:53)

• On Her Stage Name & Persona:

  “That’s my name...nobody ain’t say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never.” (66:37)

• On Fighting as Survival and Principle:

  “Ain’t no white woman about to sit in my face and keep saying, nigga...It make me want to cry...Because at the end of the day...I don't want nobody playing with us saying nigga this and n that. I don't like that. Just stop saying the word respectfully.” (76:46–78:35)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Introduction & Sukihana’s Persona (03:34-04:43)
• Motherhood, Family & Pregnancy (05:08-12:17)
• On Fame & Parenting Boundaries (14:31-19:16)
• Growing Up, School Challenges (54:27-55:11)
• Transition from Struggle to Going Viral (59:45-61:08)
• Reality TV Journey (67:02-69:38)
• Fights on Reality TV & Principles (72:32-78:35)

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Tone and Language

This episode is visceral, honest, and humorous, with Sukihana’s unapologetic, sometimes raw language and Shannon Sharpe’s signature warmth and curiosity. Conversations are deeply personal but always laced with humor—even in the face of hardship. The dynamic is playful but also touches on serious themes of resilience, self-worth, and cultural pride.

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Summary

Part 1 of Shannon Sharpe’s conversation with Sukihana is a vibrant, no-holds-barred look at her journey from a tough childhood in Delaware to reality TV stardom and motherhood. Sukihana’s candor about struggle, survival, family, standing up for herself, and finding pride in her unique persona makes for an inspiring, entertaining, and deeply human episode.

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Next: Part 2 continues the discussion.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Jada and Des was fighting. Why didn't you break it up?

[Sukihana]

I was not at that fight. This man is crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You weren't gonna break it up anyway.

[Sukihana]

My mama raised me in one fight. All fight. If my little sister fight, we jumping in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. How about this? You grab one, have your other homegirl grab the other, and you pull them apart.

[Sukihana]

How about that? And you gonna think I'm pulling apart. And I'm gonna get some uppercuts on that. Don't touch my sister no more. They sitting there stretching. That girl desior she was doing her thing. That's a good friend. All my life been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle paid the price wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life look all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle paid the price.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We would like to thank low key for hosting us today with this episode of Club Shay Shay. If you're in the Atlanta west midtown area, you have to come experience the city's hottest restaurant, Low key. They're serving up the best Asian fusion in the a. Now let's get to today's episode. Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of club Shay Shay speaking. Stopping by for conversation on the drink today, One of the most viral and outspoken people on the Internet today. She's a reality TV star, a famous rapper with a massive social media following. With a polarizing personality, she has a voice that's bold and authentic. She's a mother and a daughter, but she's not a magician or a musician. She's a mogul in the making. Please welcome y'. All. Forgive me for saying this, Suki with the good coochie.

[Sukihana]

Oh, I knew it. Hey, y', all. I know that's right. You know exactly who I am.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sha. Y', all, y', all, please, please, please. I, I. You don't realize how long I debated. Should I say it? Is that still your. That's still your child's life.

[Sukihana]

That's always gonna be my name. That was always my name.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sukiyana.

[Sukihana]

Mm. Yeah. And I am not self proclaimed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't Somebody told you that that's

[Sukihana]

my name out here. Everybody told me that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody.

[Sukihana]

You see how these niggas be acting about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, wow. Okay. Well, there have to be some truth in this, she's expecting baby number four.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, baby number four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two daughters.

[Sukihana]

No, two sons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two sons now.

[Sukihana]

About to be two daughters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so you might be two and two. Are you done?

[Sukihana]

No, I'm a fruitful queen. I'm a fruitful queen. This pops several. Oh, Lord Jesus, I can have 10 more children. God said be fruitful. That's what I'm here for. I knew when I was born that I was supposed to have a whole bunch of kids. Mm. I mean, you multiply, you got four.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's not enough?

[Sukihana]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness. So how are you feeling?

[Sukihana]

I feel great. You know, my life right now has did a whole 360 from, you know, the last few years of being in entertainment, you know, so, yeah, I feel. I feel refreshed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You feel refreshed?

[Sukihana]

Yes. I'm so grateful right now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any cravings? Peanut butter and pickles or anything? So are you just. Is it just normal? Is it any different from the previous three?

[Sukihana]

It's very different. I mean, I really love to eat everything, but I'm not eating ass for sure. Cause nobody need to be eating ass while they pregnant. That ain't right. Like, have some class, you know what I'm saying? Cause, you know, everything you eat goes

[Shannon Sharpe]

straight to the baby. Yeah, that ain't right.

[Sukihana]

That ain't right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you weren't pregnant, that's you. You on that type of diet. But by the same token, you ain't got nobody doing that.

[Sukihana]

What are you asking for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just saying, By the same token, you ain't on that type of diet, are you?

[Sukihana]

No, no, no, no, no. I mean, everybody loves salad. You do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Sukihana]

Okay, everybody in here done got they salad tossed, especially the white ones. All right, I'mma stop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. So is this gonna be a conventional pregnancy where you go to the hospital or you're gonna be. Have a midwife or you're gonna be. What's this one?

[Sukihana]

So I have doulas right now, and we are wanting to go full natural.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

I am scared, but they are preparing me for it. I don't really wanna do the hospital.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't?

[Sukihana]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wanna be home?

[Sukihana]

Yep, I wanna be home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you say full natural, that means nothing, right?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, that means nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you just gonna basically spit, like, a bowling ball out and some water?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, damn. That's what I'm trying to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you trying to do. But, you know, once you get there, I don't know if you can reverse it, right?

[Sukihana]

You can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. But you need to think long and hard about this. Sukiyah.

[Sukihana]

I've been trying. I've been thinking every day, and we're here, and I'm still like, I want to. I really do, but I know some of my friends, they didn't have been in labor for 52 hours of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you want that kind of screw shaking pain for 52, you probably only want 52 minutes of that.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, no, you right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You've obviously had three minutes.

[Sukihana]

See, they told me, don't be talking to people like you about it. Cause you gonna talk me out. No, he's getting me scared. Oh, my jeweler's gonna get you. I'm scared already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see a lot of women latto expecting her first Cora larae. She had her first cardi b added to her brood. So did Rihanna last year. What do you enjoy about motherhood and what does it mean to you? What does being a mother mean to you?

[Sukihana]

Being a mother, honestly, it means to love a baby unconditionally and protect a child. And I really love doing that. Like, out of everything I done did in life, my favorite part of life is being a mom, Loving children, teaching children, and being there for them, you know? So motherhood. I could give everything back. I would not give that. Like, I would. I would.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All the fame, all the. Everything that you've accomplished, just. I just want the kids.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is the child's father, he okay with, like, does he want more kids?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, he wanna keep. He wanna keep knocking me up. Yeah, he already trying to plan the next one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Sukihana]

Mm. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You like? Hold on, bro. Hold on. I got four already. I mean, give me a break. Let me. So how close in age are the kids?

[Sukihana]

Okay, they're like two years. Well, this baby right here is over a decade.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. I haven't had a baby in over a decade. Okay? This is a decade apart. I've been holding out. I've been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you been holding out for?

[Sukihana]

Cause I, you know, I just didn't want to make the same mistake again. And so you feel you got a

[Shannon Sharpe]

good man, you got a man that's going to be in your life.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, but I just end up pregnant. I wasn't trying to get pregnant this time either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean?

[Sukihana]

We was trying to hold off until maybe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, if you go into the gym and you shoot up at the net, eventually you gonna go in? Uh.

[Sukihana]

Uh. I was on birth control. I was on two forms of birth control. One was the natural and Then one was Plan B. That's birth control.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You taking tic tacs and talking about that's birth control.

[Sukihana]

It was working.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Clearly it wasn't.

[Sukihana]

Uh, yeah. Can we still can people still. Can I sue the plan B company?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, because it's not 100%. It's like 99.9. So you. The net 0.1.

[Sukihana]

I just pop up pregnant out of nowhere. I can't believe it. I'm very thankful, though. But it was just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you say you want more.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, but it was just out of nowhere. I was not prepared, you know, I wanted to be more prepared, but God put me in position to. I prayed that God would put me in position to make sure I can stably take care of a child. And the crazy part is I also prayed that God could help me stop drinking and stop, you know, partying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Sukihana]

And then because I really couldn't go on stage and perform without taking a shot, a couple of, you know, so I feel like he answered my prayers and gave me this baby and it was like a rebirth. Like I done woke up and became a whole nother person in a dream.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you this, okay. You haven't drank since you've been pregnant. What happens when you're not pregnant and you have have to go back on stage?

[Sukihana]

I got. I'm still performing now, you know, so every night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you found out now that I can perform without taking these two shots or three shots or whatever. I need to go on stage. I can do it without that.

[Sukihana]

Yes. And I can be funny without it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Cause, you know, funniness is, you know, you gotta have. You gotta make sure you own that stage. And I didn't believe in myself at the time. And now, you know, I'm Suki. I'm here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's the cutoff number, Suki?

[Sukihana]

I would say the minimum. I would probably have seven. Seven kids. I can pop out seven all together in today's time. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Many years ago, people had a bunch of kids. Cause they worked. That was free labor. That was cheap labor. Well, in 20, 26 and beyond, you want three more kids after this one?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I'm a fruitful and fruitful. It's women out here who are fruitful. I'm fruitful. I love being pregnant. I love having babies and taking care of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You love the process of making them or you love.

[Sukihana]

Actually, I love the process of making them. Hell yeah. Shit. Yup. That ain't my favorite part. I mean, sometimes that's my favorite. That is something that's my. I love making babies, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when you told the guy that you're with that you were expecting, he's excited. He's like, damn, okay, I've been trying to do this.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, he was very excited. I was excited too. I was a little scared because, you know, I just, I just got back on tv. You know, I took a little break.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Now I'm on one of the biggest TV shows and I am making a prominent amount of money, like a super amount of money. But you know, I'm just like, oh, I'm not picking money before my baby. This my baby. Y' all bitches, y' all see me after I had this baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what I mean?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, you can't. Good. Cause you can't behave like you normally would be behaving.

[Sukihana]

Uh huh. So I gotta sit my ass. Yeah, I gotta sit my butt down.

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[Sukihana]

Because my music is adult music. Like, you know, we got different genres. We got country, we got gospel, we got hip hop, we got hardcore rap. My music is strictly for adults.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

But I Do have some songs that, you know, you can let them listen to music. Yeah, but my kids don't want to listen to my music. Hell, no. I let my kids be kids. They like kids stuff. Like, they like cartoons, Roblox, they like hanging outside. You feel me? That's. They not worried about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How old is the oldest?

[Sukihana]

He's 16.

[Shannon Sharpe]

16. So he kind of knows the process of what goes into having a baby. So when you told him, like, so you said. Did you sit him down and say, mama, mama, you about to have a brother. You about to have a sister?

[Sukihana]

I hid it from my kids. Yeah. I hid it because they ghetto.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean?

[Sukihana]

Because they be like, how you pregnant? You know, I thought they was. I thought that they. I didn't know how happy they would be because there's so many of them, right? So, you know, I hid it from them. But then I started seeing them look at me and laugh and kind of talk about me, and I'm just like, what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say.

[Sukihana]

They just giggling, you know, and I'm just like, what is going on? One day I pulled them to the side and I said, listen, I'm pregnant. And it was like, we already know. I got some names in my phone for the baby, and I was like, wow. So everybody's around me happy. But before, they weren't that happy, like, mom, my family members, because I popped up at the Christmas parties pregnant every year, basically. And, you know, they were tired, but, you know, I guess everybody, you know, see me grow and become. I grew with my children. Yes, I had them young, but I became the best mother that I could be. And I love them, and, you know, now I take care of my family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But it's about to be a situation where if you have seven kids, you're gonna be pregnant damn near half your life. Don't you want to do other things besides birth kids?

[Sukihana]

And, I mean, the other things that I want to do is probably birth some kids, travel and put them in school and stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

You know, I did a lot in the entertaining side. Like, you know, I done made my money. I did my shows. I was broke. I had fun. I was rich. I had fun. I done did some hoe shit. You feel me? I done, you know, I did everything right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But movies, TV shows, there's also. Do you allow them to watch your show? If you don't allow them to watch certain movies and certain type of TV shows, do you allow them to watch Mommy?

[Sukihana]

Like the TV shows that I'm on?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Not really, but they don't really want to, you know, like my boys. I got a girl and then I got boys. Boys don't care about it. They like playing the PlayStation and stuff like that. And I just. I don't. They don't really take a liking into a way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the picking order? The son's the oldest, the daughter's the oldest.

[Sukihana]

My son is the oldest. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sixteen.

[Sukihana]

My daughter is. My baby's son is the youngest, and my daughter is the middle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so you got a son, two girls, and now two boys. Okay. Yeah. You got two. Yeah. Okay, so you got. And the girl is sandwiched in between.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'd your mom say when you told your hey, mom, you kidding? On the phone, hey, Mom, I was

[Sukihana]

like, mom, I didn't even get it out. I just stood on the phone for a little bit, and she was like, you pregnant?

[Shannon Sharpe]

She know you that well?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, she do. Yep. And I was already planning to maybe carry a baby for one of my sisters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

That's what I wanted to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

But then I end up getting pregnant, and I'm the one that keeps having all the kids. Nobody else has babies.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you also said your mom wouldn't let you listen to certain types of music when you were growing up. Do you believe more parents should do that, or do people allow their kids to listen to things that they probably shouldn't hear at the age that they start listening to them?

[Sukihana]

I feel like parents should monitor everything that their children do, from their tablets to the music they listen to, to what they watch and who they're around. I feel like that's even in the families. You have to watch who your children are around. Family members, like, you gotta monitor your children and don't let you know the world, raise them. That's just normal, right? I monitor my children. It takes a village. My whole family helps me and loves me and loves them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At what age? What do you think's a good age that kids should maybe start looking at certain TV programs, start listening to certain music? Is there a set age or.

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[Sukihana]

I feel like it depends. I mean, as a teenager, you know, we gonna listen to. When I was a teenager, you feel me, I took a big liking to Tupac and DMX.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

And my mom did try to take my CDs from me, but it was no way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You snuck and did it, huh?

[Sukihana]

Yes, I snuck in and listened to. I used to listen to him in my room. Then I found out who Lil Kim was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

And I loved her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

So, I mean, I think it's just about, you know, how I don't give a fuck. Y' all watch your motherfucking kids. Watch your kids shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But let me ask you this. Do you feel like kids are growing up too fast today? I mean, look, we're all, I was a kid once upon a time. You were a kid once upon a time. But I don't think we had the exposure to certain things that kids have today. They have the Internet, they have social media. They just, they are just inundated with so much more than what we had to deal with.

[Sukihana]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And kids, it seems like every generation, kids are growing up faster, they're getting smarter, they understand more. Is that a problem? Do you see that as a problem?

[Sukihana]

I do see children.

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[Sukihana]

Growing up faster because they have access to more where when we was kids, we used to Love to play outside, make mud pies, go on a swing, sliding board, summer camp. But it seems like nowadays, you know, the electronics are raising children and I see that. I mean, what could we do to reverse that? But take the tablets and take the phones and when I do, my kids go right outside and have a good time. They have more fun than they ever did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's what we used to have to do. We didn't have that. So you had to go outside and play.

[Sukihana]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But now, you know, they're on the. Like you said, they're on the tablets. We give them the tablets, kids start crying, you give them a tablet to try to, you know, they're in the vehicle. If you're going somewhere, you give them a tablet to watch. So it's always something other than the human interaction.

[Sukihana]

But you gotta take those tablets and stuff and let them touch the grass. Touching the grass is important.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

You can't build real people skills from social media, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

So you gotta let the kids learn for themselves too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you think you've evolved from the time to vary your very first child, the 16 year old, to where we are now? How you evolved? Who is this person compared to who she was 16 years ago?

[Sukihana]

Oh, my gosh. 16 years ago I was outside. I was young.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Outside. Outside.

[Sukihana]

Outside. Outside. You know, outside, you know, living life really fast. And I didn't have the most money, but I was in the hood, you know, had my friends, you know, going to clubs, you know, partying, and they didn't really have much responsibility.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes.

[Sukihana]

Compared to now, you know, I had to grow with my babies at that time compared to now, you know, I have a lot of love in me to give.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

And it's just better. It's just better off. I'm a better woman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read that at one point in time you were dancing while expecting. I know good and well. I know good G.D. well, you ain't get your butt on that stage and belly out here and butt out there.

[Sukihana]

I mean, there was a time where I was dancing. I had to figure it out. I ain't had no money. Shit. And I lost my id, so nobody was about to hire me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, how you lose your id? Just go get another one.

[Sukihana]

I couldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean?

[Sukihana]

I didn't have all the things that I needed, but at the end of the day, the strip club was right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so you ain't need no ID for the strip club?

[Sukihana]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, how did they know you was of age? You could Got the baby.

[Sukihana]

They could tell I had my little stretch marks and everything. I already had kids and was pregnant while I was dancing, you know, I was trying to make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Could they tell? Were you showing? Were you.

[Sukihana]

Like, they didn't care. That's what. It's. People in there with bullet holes in their ass and stuff, you know? So I was just trying to make my money, make my ends meet. Because we ain't had nowhere to go. So, yeah, I went to the strip club, got my little dance on, made my little couple dollars. I ain't make that much. And I didn't dance that long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But hold on.

[Sukihana]

I was doing right. Cause I could have been selling pussy. So you feel me? That was lit. Oh, yeah. I was pregnant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying you can't sell. No. Who I pregnant?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, you can't. Some people. Do you charge extra, too? For what? I'm just saying. What you mean you can charge extra? Pregnant is a different type of. Ain't no retina.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my God.

[Sukihana]

Don't act like y' all ain't fuck nothing. Nothing that was pregnant.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, come on.

[Sukihana]

All right, you own.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all. I mean, you own stage. Okay, look, I'm like, damn. Okay, you know, you say you lost your id, but maybe. I mean, there are some. I don't know, maybe Target or maybe one of these, you know, retail chains will give you a job as a cashier or something. Okay, fine.

[Sukihana]

But, dang, I was on my ass and I was just. I didn't know if I could bring another baby in. I already didn't have no help, no place to go, no car, no money, nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did the child's father didn't offer assistance?

[Sukihana]

I don't even know who he was. But at the end of the day, the baby made it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know who he is now, though, right?

[Sukihana]

I don't know none of these. N. The thing is, when I. My new baby daddy is the only man that I ever been with in life. That's how it go with me. We don't talk. I don't know nothing about name, so he my first love. The first time I had sex was with him. That's how we go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no. You ain't finna do that. You ain't finna race. I'm not finna let you try to raise these men. But what if they wanna come back now and say, okay, we wanna be a part of the child's life?

[Sukihana]

Oh, no, they can be a part of their kid's life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

No, that ain't I'm all for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they might wanna. What if they wanna spin the block? Say we realize we gonna spin the

[Sukihana]

block Niggas get shot around here, they don't play. Uh, we don't do that. Oh, Lord, you know? Mm mm. No spinning the block Especially when I got somebody that love me and treat me good yeah, yeah oh, baby, I don't go back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. Have you ever spun the block?

[Sukihana]

No. I tried. I don't like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why?

[Sukihana]

Because when you go back, you realize

[Shannon Sharpe]

that there's a reason you left.

[Sukihana]

Yes. So I just rather not spend no blocks no more. Ever.

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[Sukihana]

I promise. Why would I do that? This ain't the. This ain't two decades, a decade ago.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I'm just saying. Just say that. I promise.

[Sukihana]

I promise that if. What's the promise again? I ain't gonna get on stage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna get on stage pregnant and ain't

[Sukihana]

gonna sell no cat. Yeah, and wait, hold up. She ain't gonna sell no cat no more. Ever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Ever.

[Sukihana]

You saying I'm not pregnant? No, no, this don't sell no cat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't.

[Sukihana]

Oh, hell no. I sell cat to my men every day. You know you lying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm just saying. Okay, okay, look, he takes care of you, a roof provides, so forth and so on. If you consider that selling cat. I'm just saying. Selling outside cat to somebody that ain't in the house.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. No, I won't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. Okay, okay. All right. Y' all heard it.

[Sukihana]

Cause I like to role play with my man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What type of role play?

[Sukihana]

Like, you feel me? I act like, you know, a little street walker walk up to his car and say, how much you got, Daddy? Let me get a little extra 50. And I do something strange. For I say it all the time. Like when he's taking me out to eating shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

I say, I suck a little dick for some crabs, then I do it, and I'm rich.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He probably. Hey, he probably get. I be bushing the crabs on the table.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, yeah. We get crab legs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Big old crab claws up with Alaskan king crab. But let me ask you this. The Internet was buzzing because they say either Ray J or Dr. Umar were the baby daddy.

[Sukihana]

You messy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. That's what they say.

[Sukihana]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read that, and I was like, well, dang.

[Sukihana]

That's what they said. How they gonna pick my baby daddy for me? That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I guess they kind of looking at the. You got the bead. Hey, can y' all see the bead? Look at the bead right here. Show her the bead. Show her the beads.

[Sukihana]

We made this dress. Hey, but, you know, I came to represent. I'm a black empress. Pan African queen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What'd you say? Pan.

[Sukihana]

Pan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he used that term a lot. Pan Africanism.

[Sukihana]

Yep. That's what I identify as. Mm. Mm. I think Dr. Umar is a great teacher, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

But that's not my baby daddy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay, okay. But he did. Wasn't he on the Breakfast Club saying that he would like to have a.

[Sukihana]

He said that? A lot of guys feel that way. A lot of guys feel that way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think a lot of guys want to put a baby in you?

[Sukihana]

Yes. They love me. They love me. You don't know me like that, but even you would love me, too. Yeah. No, for real. Yeah. I treat. You know, I treat men with respect and love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Abundance, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why is Suki so easy to love?

[Sukihana]

I feel like I'm easy to love because I love automatically. That's how my grandma raised me. So I'm okay with giving love. I'm okay with being there. I'm an easygoing person. I don't judge people. I'm a listener, and I'm a giver. So naturally, when I meet a man, automatically, I want to be there for you. I want to know how you like your food cooked. I want to know how you like Your chicken cooked. You feel me? I want to know all that because I'm going to show you I could cook better than your mama. You feel me? Yeah. I'm gonna show you something. So I learned.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So in other words, you're a nurturer.

[Sukihana]

Yes, I'm very nurturing. And that's why I like to be, you know, be a mom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Sukihana]

So, yeah, that's why they act.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you treat. So you treat your man almost like he. Like you loving on him and doting on him. And he come in the house, he gonna know that you've been thinking about him all day.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. But he's still gonna have to spend that money, though. You know, I'll treat you that. Like that. But I still want you to make sure you provide and you take care of your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't gonna take care of you.

[Sukihana]

It's not fair that you got all this liquor right here. And, you know I can't drink.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I. But see. But we gonna give you this to go home. So when you. You know. Cause I want you to have a souvenir.

[Sukihana]

Okay. So after I had a baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. After you had a baby. You don't.

[Sukihana]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. I mean, Pan Queen. Cause, you know, a lot of Pan African queen. Pan African queen. Could you be married to a man that have multiple wives? Could you be one of many wives?

[Sukihana]

I used to think I was okay with that when I was younger. You know, I did consider it. I don't feel like that's my path.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

I don't judge people who are okay with that, because I do feel like sometimes you. Maybe a woman could use a sister. Wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

You know, that's their home, though. But me personally, I would just like to be a wife by myself.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

I mean, no one has made me change that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

I'm not saying that you're not close

[Shannon Sharpe]

to it, but at this present time, you're like, okay, it's gonna be me and my husband now, if he's like, okay, and convince me that if there is a benefit for me and this family, I might be open to it. But as of right now, nowadays, where I'm standing.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, that's how I feel. You know, a lot of people have multiple wives in different cultures and religions, but me, you know, I'm okay with just doing the me and my husband thing. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you go to Dr. Umar's school?

[Sukihana]

I actually did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He actually has a school.

[Sukihana]

Yes, he does. He actually does have the school. And that same school I went to that school when I was younger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's all this about? He was getting money to build a new school and the school hadn't been erected. Hadn't been built yet. What's going on with that?

[Sukihana]

I don't know. Cause I. He really.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he actually does have a school.

[Sukihana]

Yes. And it's a big. It's a really nice school and I really respect it because it's in Wilmington. That's where I'm from. And I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You from Delaware?

[Sukihana]

Yes, I'm from Wilmington, Delaware.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

So I respect his take on. You gotta get in them streets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

To change. So I respect where he got has in school. But there's a lot of people over there need help.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

So, yeah, I went to that school.

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[Sukihana]

at 5 and 10 years of age? I always wanted to be a rapper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

In entertainment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. My mom wrote my first rap for me and I used to rap in the hood. She used to take me to people and say, go ahead and rap. And I used to rap to people, and they used to pay me. They used to give me, like, a little dollar here, a little dollar there. And I grew up in a family of music, so my grandfather and everybody made music. I went to a cultural art school, a prominently black school, Swahili school. So, you know, I really support black power. And that's. And you can see it, like, in different situations, it'll come out. So, you know, that's how I was raised. I was a D and I was a rapper, and I went to Kumba Academy in Wilmington, Delaware. And, you know, I end up going a different path. Getting in the streets, you know, having children, falling in love, and happily. I made it out of that, you know, Made it out the street.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just told me earlier you didn't love none of them. Your baby daddy just.

[Sukihana]

I thought it was. Honestly, I guess there's a difference between in love and love. I genuinely had love for people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can love someone but not be in love with said person. Yes, you love that person, but you don't necessarily know if you were in love with that person.

[Sukihana]

You know, I know I wasn't in love. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Okay.

[Sukihana]

But I had a little. You know how it is. And you in the streets when you young, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sukihana]

The requirements aren't even the same. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're a different person now than you were then.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So I had a fast lifestyle then. And then I end up seeing, you know, I had this guy that I was dating. He ended up passing away, and I started dating him. The thing is, I had my shit together before me and him even dated. I had my little business where I used to make shea butter waist beads. You know, I had my apartment, I had my car, and I ended up meeting him. He was a little older than me. He didn't want to come to the side. Little. Okay. He was like. He had been, like, seven years older than me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So he didn't really want to come to my side of town, so he ended up having me go with him, leaving all this stuff that I had, and I kind of lost my business and everything that I had. And I used to write songs and stuff, and I used to try to get him to read it, but he didn't even want to. He kind of just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wasn't interested.

[Sukihana]

No, he wasn't interested.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That should have been a clue right there. If he's not interested in what you like to do and what you want to Do. What made you think that? How could you love him?

[Sukihana]

Well, for my city. A lot of people will look at you crazy. If you believe in yourself, if you say, you know what I'm gonna be? I'm gonna be a rapper, right? They're gonna look at you like, bitch, you're dumb.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Sukihana]

You know, so that situation happened where he wasn't supporting me and I did not have nothing in my pocket. It was getting real hard for me. Like, I was so sad. I didn't have nowhere to go with my kids. And he kind of just left. He kind of just ditched me. And that shit hurt. But what I did was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you had. When you met him, you already had kids?

[Sukihana]

I already had my kids, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many kids did you have at the time?

[Sukihana]

I had three at the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You already had three. Okay, so he gets you. So did you move in with him?

[Sukihana]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You moved in with him? Did he have any kids?

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[Sukihana]

He had two.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had two. So it was seven of y' all in the house. Your three, his two, you and him. Or did he have a kid?

[Sukihana]

He didn't have his kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't have his kids. Okay, so you guys. You guys in the house. And it's like, okay. When did you realize, like, damn, this man is really not supportive? I'm like, just. I'm still. I'm with someone, but I'm really alone.

[Sukihana]

I felt like that when I just started to look around and look at the people around me and just going to the club all the time, you know, drinking, I was just like, bruh, I know that I'm supposed to have more than this. I know that this is not my life. This is just. I'm just sitting here until I figure it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

He broke me down until I had nothing left to give. I had $300 in my pocket. I took me and my kids to Atlanta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

When my grandma and my auntie came and picked me up, we drove all the way to Atlanta. I moved in with my grandma. I seen the strip club, of course. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Fast, easy money.

[Sukihana]

I tried to make some money, and it ain't work for me because I had a natural body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

All the girls in there had they bodies done it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They already done.

[Sukihana]

Oh, my gosh. They was getting that money. But the guys didn't want natural girls. They only wanted natural girls to. For, like, $40.

[Shannon Sharpe]

40.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Back then. Club wax in Atlanta. We here in Atlanta. You should stop by. You might like it. You got some good wings.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, Magic got the best wings, though.

[Sukihana]

Okay. Magic do got the best wings. But anyway, it didn't work for me. And I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna get on Instagram and try it. And I got on Instagram, I made my videos, I showed people my personality, how funny I am. And then immediately everything changed. Soon as I left those people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your mom. So your mom is from Will. So obviously they're back there. So when did you realize, like, you know what? No, let's go back. Him. So you were going out with the club to him, just drinking and smoking and carrying on and.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, this is a fast life. Everybody doesn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what was his job? What did he do?

[Sukihana]

He was selling drugs. Yeah. He was younger.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did you think was gonna happen? Sukie?

[Sukihana]

I was young, you know, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You thought he Was gonna give up that job. You thought he was gonna give up that life because he got a girl.

[Sukihana]

Now I'm saying he had to give up no selling, no drugs at that time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

You feel me? I ain't tell him he had to stop that. I wasn't thinking like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Sukihana]

I was just thinking, you know, I had somebody who seemed to care about me, and we started dating, and I didn't see a future after that. Right. So after a while, I felt in my spirit, this ain't my circle. And God told me that, you know, the blessings that he may have for me may not be for everybody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes.

[Sukihana]

They can't always go with you on your journey. Sometimes it's people are lessons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if I'm reading this correctly, your grandma and your auntie come pick you up. My grandma, my brother and sister and I, we was raised by our grandparents. How different do you feel your life would have been had you stayed in Wilmington and continue down the path that you were going on versus coming and staying with your grandmother?

[Sukihana]

Honestly, like all my friends that I grew up with, I probably would have been on drugs. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did your grandmother. I mean, you already got three kids. Cause you. Even though you might have been young, when you got three kids, you're kind of, like, grown. You kind of, like, can move how you want to move. Cause it's not like a situation where you're moving somewhere. You move down and you don't have any kids, and they still treat you like you're a child. You got kids, so you gotta be an adult. It ain't no more kid stuff. You got to be an adult because you're no longer just responsible for Suki. You got three other people that you need to be responsible for.

[Sukihana]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what did your grandma. So when you cut your grandma. So what was that conversation? What was that drive, that long drive from Wilmington, Delaware, to Atlanta, Georgia? What was the conversation in the car like, coming home, coming to Atlanta, I

[Sukihana]

mean, I just felt like I was back with my family. It's not no pressure. It's not people upset. It's just like. Like, we're going back home. Like, it wasn't an unwelcoming feeling at all. You know, I'm just going back with my family, and I have to leave this guy, and I have to leave these people, and I have to chase my dreams. I gotta become something. I got children. My family don't want to spend their time raising my kids. I gotta raise my kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Sukihana]

So I believed in myself. I went to Atlanta. And I became something. I put everybody in position and, you know, I love everybody and I take care of pretty much everybody to my best ability.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your father.

[Sukihana]

Oh, he played. He played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't have a relationship with him?

[Sukihana]

Barely. He played big time. Cause you never know who your kids may become like. He was not a good dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you mean in that respect? He didn't spend any time with you, he didn't give you anything. What would you. When you said, he's not a good dad? Give me, you know, buy context.

[Sukihana]

He was not. He was not around.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Financially, mentally, any of that. They had me young. My mom and him were high school lovers. My mom ended up getting pregnant at 16.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

And he ran track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

He was successful in that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

And he wasn't there for me growing up at all, you know, but I did hear about the people in the city saying that he brags about me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. When was the last time you saw your father?

[Sukihana]

I haven't seen him in probably 10 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Suki, that's still your father.

[Sukihana]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You only get one of them two. There's gonna be a time that you're not gonna be able to go see him on this side.

[Sukihana]

He ain't wanna see me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't know. See, here's the thing, Sukie. You don't know. See, without having context, you can't explain somebody choices without the decision that they made. So you said the decision, he didn't. Well, what choice did he have? Why did he make choose that?

[Sukihana]

We have no clue. Okay. We actually. My mom actually took me to him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

You know, a couple times. And he had my number. One time he seen me when I had to move in with my cousin Muffin. He seen me and he said hi. And I was like. I was telling him, he was asking me for my number. I was like, I don't have a phone. You know, he said he was gonna buy me a phone and he was gonna come back. He never came back, literally.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How old were you? 15, 16?

[Sukihana]

No, I was like 18.

[Shannon Sharpe]

18.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. I was up there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

He just never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So how old you had your first child?

[Sukihana]

I got pregnant, like 17. Yeah. So I had mama around 18 years old. But the thing is, he had other kids. Oh, yeah, he had other children. He was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That were older than you or younger than you?

[Sukihana]

They were younger and they lived in the same house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. So now it may.

[Sukihana]

And my mom had a husband, so we weren't. She's not like a bitter baby mom. She don't care.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'M talking about you. Now, it makes sense to me because you say, okay, you got kids that live with you and that. You see, and I'm your child, and you don't wanna spend any time or get to know me. Now it makes sense to you, see? You see? Why did you say that before?

[Sukihana]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, I mean, because now I understand your frustration and your anger towards him because he does, and he does spend time with said kids. Now, me, I'm your child, but you don't have time for me.

[Sukihana]

Mm. And I was the first baby, you know, So I feel like he's not the first daughter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The first child normally gets it all.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. I feel like if he was in my life, it may have. My life probably would have been different. But if it was supposed to happen, it would.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So did you want your dad's attention? Did you do anything for your dad's attention? Did you do anything for the attention?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I used to call. I used to try to reach out to my grandmother on that side, you know, I really did try. My grandmom tried. My family tried.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. They just didn't understand what was the problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If your dad were to walk in this room right now, what would you say to him?

[Sukihana]

I'd be like, what's up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, dad, you can't say. No, you can't say, dad, what's up? He ain't a homie from the block. You supposed to say, hey, dad.

[Sukihana]

Dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He still.

[Sukihana]

I can't call him that, though, what you call him. I mean, I don't call him anything. I don't call him nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't think about your dad. You don't think about a relationship that you could have had or should have had. But you do realize if you were to reconnect with your dad, it's not. But you reconnect here and go backwards. It's. You connect here and go forward, but go, weirdo. Why don't you want your grand. Don't you want. He got grandkids. Don't you want them to know their grandfather?

[Sukihana]

They don't care about my side. They. You know, but they should.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a part of them.

[Sukihana]

They don't care at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but you probably.

[Sukihana]

Probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't care. You don't care. In which. Now, that's filtered down through them. But that's a side of their family.

[Sukihana]

But we tried. We tried. My grandma used to knock on her door, hi, your grandpabby's here. Cracked the door open, closed the door. They didn't really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. No, it's okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That had to hurt, though.

[Sukihana]

It would have hurt it, but I had a lot of love for my grandma. I had a grandmom's love. So, you know, it's different when you raised by your grandmom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is, it is.

[Sukihana]

I had a. I learned differently. I had a different love around me, so it never could affect me that much until I see my sisters get to go with their dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So, you know, then my grandma would take me and stuff like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

But luckily, you know, it's a blessing that the man that my mom has chose after my dad was very supportive of me as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, you know, but just. Just keep it. Just keep the door jar. I ain't saying close. I'm not saying it's gotta be wide open, but just leave a crack in the door in case he wants to come back in your life.

[Sukihana]

Don't you think if he did, he

[Shannon Sharpe]

would have, hey, it might not be today, it might not be tomorrow.

[Sukihana]

I'm gonna wait till I get menopause.

[Shannon Sharpe]

From the looks of that, that ain't happening anytime soon.

[Sukihana]

Facts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You on a roll right now?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I'm on a roll. School, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you a good student in school?

[Sukihana]

I was very charming. Teachers loved me. I was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Schoolwork. How was you in school?

[Sukihana]

It was hard. It was hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How was. No, no, no. Did you apply yourself, or did you go to school to crack jokes and be funny?

[Sukihana]

I mean, I applied myself. That didn't work. And then I realized, okay, telling jokes and being funny, it feels good, but

[Shannon Sharpe]

that ain't no schoolwork.

[Sukihana]

I tried. I mean, I had extra help, too. Cause I wasn't. I couldn't focus like every other child. You got to understand, the education system back then wasn't as advanced as it is now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Sukihana]

You know, you can't just put 30 kids in a class and have one teacher and think that everybody's gonna learn at the same pace, you know, so school was hard. I was different. I had adhd.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. You know, so you were somewhat challenged learning.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you needed special attention.

[Sukihana]

I definitely needed special attention.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

And I got it. I did get special attention. It was. I had some really great teachers, you know, that I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you had to go to a different class to get that, right?

[Sukihana]

Yep. Until they said, you know what? I realized that what they would do with kids who needed extra help, they would take us and put us in a smaller class.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Where I realize now that it actually hurts Children. Because you got people in the schools that make fun of kids.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

You know, so I see that they put more teachers in a class to make everybody feel, you know, so they don't have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So there's no more. Like, if you're challenged, somewhat learning challenge. They're no more like, you go to this class. So they stay in the regular class. They just have teachers to help them.

[Sukihana]

Why segregate the students when you could just bring extra love and help in the class? So I respect what they're doing. Now, me, I had hard. You know, they even put us in a little line sometimes, so I had to learn how to fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they made fun of you because you was in that class, that. It was probably like seven or eight of you in that one school.

[Sukihana]

Yep. And I love my classmates. We were lit well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you fighting people?

[Sukihana]

It wasn't the people in the class.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know you weren't fighting. It was the people that was outside the class that potentially made fun of you. Huh?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I had to whoop a ass sometimes. You know, you a young lady.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't supposed to fight.

[Sukihana]

Let me tell you how hard school is. You may not want to fight, but people will keep picking at you. Cause you gotta understand, these are kids that are grown up, too. They don't know that it comes with consequences. When you start hurting others, you know, they gotta learn and bump their head a couple times. So, yeah, you pick with me too much, you know, I'mma whoop your. I'mma have my aunties in them now. My family got to step in. You feel me? Now we chasing school buses and shit. Cause y' all not about to keep picking on me. Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you bringing family members into a fight?

[Sukihana]

My family come, they don't care about me bringing them. They coming. If I come home crying, this girl keep bullying me. They said I got a big nose. They making fun of my skin. Yeah, we whooping at. Yeah. I used to talk about every feature that I had in school. Yeah, we're. We're.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you were there to learn. So what? So what? They tell you, you got a big nose. They say, what? You got big lips, you got a big chest, big butt. Who you there to learn?

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what you went to school to fight?

[Sukihana]

No, I went to school to learn. And I around and found out that school ain't. These kids is ghetto. You gotta. But I do respect the whole process because I had to learn how to deal with people in the world, you know, And I had to learn that no matter how much they talk about my. No. Or how I look, my hair. I'm beautiful. This is me, you know? So you gotta learn how to be able to move in a group of hating ass people. People that just don't know no better, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

When did you realize that, you know what school just in for me?

[Sukihana]

I realized it around 10th grade. I realized it around 10th grade. I'm just like, yeah, I don't want to do that, you know, But I. I wouldn't. It just wasn't for me. Yes, I tried, you know, and then I dropped out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You dropped out? Do you regret that?

[Sukihana]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you go get a ged?

[Sukihana]

I tried. Then I dropped out of that, too, But my mom was homeschooling us, so I got homeschooled.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, with your mom. Is your mom an educator?

[Sukihana]

Yes, she is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

She homeschools everybody in the family. She's really good at it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So she had to homeschool me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, you dropped out of regular school, you dropped out of homeschool, you dropped out of ged.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. So, yeah, the school probably wasn't for

[Sukihana]

you, but then I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't focus, can you?

[Sukihana]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hyper?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I'm so hyper, bruh. But then I went to cosmetology school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How'd you learn there? You dropped.

[Sukihana]

Let me tell you. It's different ways to teach people stuff. Everybody can't learn from a book.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Some people learn from visually.

[Sukihana]

Visually, you know, so I was good at watching people to do something. Yeah. So I did great in that. And I started working in salons and stuff, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you do nails, hair?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I did nails and hair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

I actually used to do a lot of natural hairs, like locs and stuff. That's where I started from. And then longer down the line, I end up going back into music and rapping.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you do your nails?

[Sukihana]

No, these. I don't do my nails no more. I wear press ons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You used to do yours.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I used to do my nails.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you save a lot of money doing that. Cause you're expensive.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What would. Do you remember the video that you did? You said you got on Instagram. You tried a lot of different things, but it was when you got on Instagram, do you remember the video that you did that went viral and you like, okay, I kind of like this. I kind of like this. Would you do.

[Sukihana]

I went in front of my mom's house and it was like this old mattress that they just threw out there. They never threw away. So I got in front of the mattress, did my hair, my makeup, and I made a little wrap. It's like I'm five foot but my throat six. Six. I'mma ride suck of me. Then you mad cause your fat like this. Then you're mad at my chicken gets. And then I just went,

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm five foot but the throat six. Six.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The hoo ha fat.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. And your man ate my coochie like chicken nuggets. You feel me? But. Cause people always make fun of me cause I'm short. So I had to let them know it don't matter if I'm short.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, your man like it.

[Sukihana]

Yup, I'm fun to it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you tell you, you would tell women that two girls, daddy, wouldn't you?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I told him I'm five foot but my throat's six. Six. I kept it real. And guess what? I made people feel liberated. Cause it's not only women whose throat is six' six. It's men too. It's the whole nation. Yeah, everybody love a big throat. So I just, I used what I got. I rapped about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You rapped about it?

[Sukihana]

Yep. And I'm still performing that song now. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you did that song, men would come up and ask you too, didn't it? They ask you.

[Sukihana]

They just be like. They just say sukay. They don't do that. They just show love. They be like, sukay, what's up, Suki with the good coochie? Like, everybody know I'm a troll. I love to have fun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How'd you come up with that? How did you come up with suki with the good. You know what?

[Sukihana]

Well, the name, the good coochie part was given to me, you know, and it matched. It rhymes with suki. So yeah, it was just given to me, you know. You know these people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A guy gave you that name?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. And no. Have you ever heard that it was a lie? Have you ever heard. I heard a lot about me. Did you hear that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Suki, I promise you, I don't know

[Sukihana]

anybody that you heard that I was suki with a good coochie.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I mean, I read your bios, like. And I'm debating how am I gonna say this. I'm like, should I say this? And I'm like, this is the intro. And I'm like, lord have mercy, they gonna kill me.

[Sukihana]

Like, no, they gonna respect you more for saying that. Cause everybody know that's my name. They gonna be like, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean you want to be known by that.

[Sukihana]

I don't mind cuz it's like that's my name. You can call me Sukiana if you want to but like, but Sukiana Suki. But everybody know I'm Suki with a good coochie. They can't take that from me. Nobody ain't say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never. Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I take your word for It Suki.

[Sukihana]

Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How'd you end up on Jerry Springer, though?

[Sukihana]

Jerry Springer was a time. Rest in peace. To Jerry Springer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Because, you know, I'm happy that I got to meet him and got a chance to get to know him. And I know from that he genuinely loved black people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

And I end up going to that show. When I first started, from that song that I just sang to you, the producers reached out and they was like, we need you on the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you went on the show to rap?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I used that as an opportunity to do my song. They wanted me to do other stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you ended up dancing. You ended up dancing with the couple that was arguing that was on the show.

[Sukihana]

Arguing, yeah, because we want. Okay. So me and a guy named Seafood went on there because his name was what? Seafood?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know how he got that name.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, Seafood. We went on Jerry Springer. His woman was feeling like me and him was talking, and we was like, no, we just doing content. We're making fake videos and stuff. I go in there and got to sing my song. You feel me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Sukihana]

And that was the beginning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it.

[Sukihana]

Yup. Jerry Springer. I definitely started from Jerry Springer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So see you and Seafood. How did you meet Seafood?

[Sukihana]

He from Philly. I'm from Delaware. We just end up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all end up just meeting. Okay. But his girlfriend felt that you guys had something going on. Did you guys talk on the phone? So, I mean, how often were you guys creating content?

[Sukihana]

Probably like every now and again. Maybe like twice a week. We'll make some videos and stuff. But we weren't. We weren't dating or anything like that. We were just making really funny videos. Like, me and him had a dream. We wanna make it. We wanna make it out. So we made some funny videos. Right when I started Instagram, Jerry Springer reached out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Then guess what? MTV reached out. Then all these different people started reaching out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's Seafood doing now? Y' all still cool?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, he's in comedy and stuff like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. Is his name still Seafood?

[Sukihana]

Mm. Seedo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Seafood.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, Seafood.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Being loving hip hop Miami.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did that happen?

[Sukihana]

So shortly after Jerry Springer, loving hip hop reached out to me, and it was love and hip hop Atlanta and love and hip hop Miami that were both fighting over which one could get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They was fighting over who you are.

[Sukihana]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they know you fun, you entertaining. You gonna keep it lit.

[Sukihana]

Yep. And that's what I did. I ended up getting picked up from Miami, and it was a really great experience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you have a manager? So how did people get in touch with you? Did they DM you? Did they on IG or X or.

[Sukihana]

How did they get in touch with you back then? You know, they just hit me up directly. I didn't have no management.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they hit you on the dm, huh?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Nobody didn't want to manage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you think it'd be like, man, this ain't no jerry spring. This ain't no love and hip hop, y'. All. Y' all trolling.

[Sukihana]

I would be so excited. I would not believe it. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Is this NBC? Oh, my gosh. Love and hip hop is asking for me. I was just like, wow. Oh, my goodness. Like, I didn't really know what to say. I was just very thankful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. So how was that experience?

[Sukihana]

I just knew when I had the opportunity to walk on the stage or walk in front of the camera, that I would take over a room and own the room anytime I'm in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Sukihana]

That's what I do. And love and hip hop went really well for me. It was a great time. And I'm just thankful for VH1. I'm thankful for that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They make good money on them shows.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, they better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shit, you make good money, huh?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I do now. I make. I'm definitely, definitely thankful for that. Cause, you know, as a woman, it's hard. You know, you gotta stand firm on what you feel you deserve out here, right? Cause they gonna say, oh, you a woman and you black. Uh, but you gotta stand firm. Y' all want me, Y' all gonna have to pay, right? And I need my coin.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you go on baddies.

[Sukihana]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you fall all the time.

[Sukihana]

I be falling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fighting.

[Sukihana]

Oh, fighting. Oh, yeah. No, not all the time, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of the times. Why you like that?

[Sukihana]

No, it ain't why.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't just get along.

[Sukihana]

These hoes, these hoes, these hoes. It be these hoes. It be them. You see how cool I am? The can't take me. I come in that room, they smell how good this. They can't take it. They get mad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They be hating.

[Sukihana]

I be intimidating. These hoes. My little self, my little short self.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you can't go in there on that type of time, though.

[Sukihana]

I don't. I just go in there. I go. Listen, I don't fit in with everybody. I don't want to. I don't wanna hang out with people I don't know like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you try to get to know somebody. Don't you wanna meet. That's how you meet people.

[Sukihana]

Why am I trying to meet people that they only trust theyself? I watch them every day, treat each other bad. They ain't no good friends. I don't wanna make no friends with them. I came to come get my bag. And the people wanted. The viewers want to see Sukihana on they screen, right? Suki ain't got to blend in with them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't trying to make no friends.

[Sukihana]

Hell no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, you went on at that type of time talking about. Yeah, I know you know garden tools. I know y' all know that. This cat like that.

[Sukihana]

No, they hurt. I ain't say that, though. I just walked in. You feel me? What's up? You know, I give respect. I do show respect. Yeah, But I don't necessarily disrespect nobody. I show respect, right? But I ain't with the key can. Because you can't trust people out here. They'll take advantage of you, especially if you a big fish. You got a lot going for yourself. And they might want to be in the same position as him. So, you know, I'm very protective of myself, you know, that's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you, I mean, so what was the difference? What's the difference between love and hip hop and baddies?

[Sukihana]

It's a big difference because the franchises are different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Sukihana]

I would say that love and hip hop, you know, they don't do as much fighting. Yeah, the crowd is a little older, you know, where baddies is, a younger crowd. And those people love to watch fights. Those people, you know, they like that style on there. So I love both franchises, though. I'm not gonna lie. It's fun. It is fun.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you look at it like, do you think people try to take advantage of you because of your size? Because they're like, look, she's small, she five foot tall. She ain't gonna do nothing. And they try to take advantage of you, and you feel you got to show them. You got to stand up for yourself. Like, y' all not finna walk over Suki.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, no, that does happen when you short your little one. People gonna feel that way. They'll try you, you know, But I demand respect. When I go on the run, I'm gonna get it, you know, or you

[Shannon Sharpe]

have to fight for it.

[Sukihana]

Huh? Yeah. You feel me? That's why I told them already. I don't walk around here like I'm the toughest person. I show respect. But I do warn people, you know, I will take it there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I will did you fight as a child? Did you fight growing up?

[Sukihana]

I had to. But see, I knew when I was going to baddies that bitches is ruthless. They ruthless. You know me, I'm always on point. You know, I make sure that I'm prepared while they drink and get up all the time. I don't right, I'm working out, I'm with my kids and I'm making sure that, you know, I'm protected in every way. I know I can't beat everybody, right? But I do know my self defense law. So what I'm saying is. Yeah, I know my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't trying to take it there.

[Sukihana]

I will take it there. I will have. So why bitches think that we we joking? I came to get my money and go home to my kids. I let them know that every time. Listen, I don't know what y' all got going on. I gotta get back to my kids. And I'm. I'm going back to my kids exactly how I look right now, you know. So every time I pull up, you feel me? I got people, I got my family with me. They still there. Same ones, they still there. While people think them black trucks outside is part of production. Each corner, that's my family. Each corner, every state. Yeah, I gotta make sure I'm okay out this bitch. So when I Mason, you feel me? That's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Mason now you the police.

[Sukihana]

Sometimes you gotta make some. Ain't never been maced before.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, I have one and I'm not trying to be maced.

[Sukihana]

Ain't nobody get maced in here. No, even I got maced.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see why.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, see, Mace ain't nothing. It ain't that bad. I think that's something nice just to pump. That'll get a bitch mind, right? That'll get a mind.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you mace and then take off running, huh?

[Sukihana]

Nuh, no, I'm Mace, you ho. And I'm lead her out the club last. I like mace. I don't even mind Mace in the air. I ain't running. You got to breathe it in for real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but that's the objective. For you to get away, that's a

[Sukihana]

mechanism to get away.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's like a skunk. You like a skunk spray you. That's for him to get away.

[Sukihana]

Like when you do, that's for them to get away. Back up off me. Why is I'm running. I'm about to, uh. Back up off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, so you doing too much?

[Sukihana]

Mm, hell no. If these that they gonna get me. Don't that's what the world need to know right here. Don't ever put out a threat. Don't say what you gonna do to somebody. Cause you're gonna get them fully prepared.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. You saying that you gonna hurt me? Oh, you said you gonna do what to me? Oh, I got you. I got everybody in this club. Watch this. Yeah, but that's. At times, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Have you ever made somebody. Have you ever been angry with someone and y' all later became friends or. Once you an enemy, you always an enemy.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. When somebody enemy of mine, they always. I'll never trust you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you'll never trust them. You can't trust them.

[Sukihana]

I can't trust you. I always gotta watch you. So I just keep my distance from you. But you gotta keep your enemies close sometimes, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you beat up a girl for using the N word?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I did. I tore her ass up. I'll do it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Suki, you can't go around beating on people and fighting people. Hold up. I thought you said you a mom. I said, yeah. I thought you said you want to get home to your kids. That what you said.

[Sukihana]

I did. Ain't no. Ain't no. No white woman about to sit in my face and keep saying, nigga, you

[Shannon Sharpe]

was on the show.

[Sukihana]

Yes. I don't like it. It make me feel some type of way. It hurt me. It hurt me real bad. It make me think you playing with me. So I take certain things really serious, and I try to cover it and act normal sometimes. But I ain't gonna lie. When it come to how I was brought up and going to Kumba Academy, we had to sit there and watch Roots. Yeah, we had to watch it, you know? So certain things I don't play with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you tell her to stop say, look, you need to stop saying that.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I did. So one thing about it is, what I learned about people nowadays is that this is what I say. They want to be black until it's time to be black.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

You want to say, then I whoop your ass like a nigga, then you turn white. So I don't respect. I don't respect white Latinos saying N. I don't respect nobody saying n. I don't even respect my people saying it. But I understand. Yeah, but I can't let other people disrespect me in my face like that. It make me want to cry. You feel me? I want to do something to a bitch. Because at the end of the day. A lot of these people, they were. You don't see them at the protest, right? You don't see them fight for us, right? You don't see them, they stay out. I don't respect that. So I don't want nobody playing with us saying nigga this and n that. I don't like that. Just stop saying the word respectfully. If you respect our people, stop saying,

[Shannon Sharpe]

is there anything that you can't do on the show?

[Sukihana]

I mean, well, I mean, everybody know that show. It's a fighting show. You know, they travel, they do music, and I mean, they get down. You know, it's a dog eat dog world on there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So right now you taking a break until you have the baby and then you going back home.

[Sukihana]

See, I'm a special guest, so they call me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They call you when they need you?

[Sukihana]

Yeah. So, yeah, I'm taking a break. I end up finding out that I was pregnant on the show. And I'm so thankful that God protected me and my baby because I had no clue that I was pregnant, right? And then I just find out I'm pregnant and I'm going to protect me and my child. So, you know, I'm doing my mommy thing, my pregnant thing, and then after I have the baby, you know, I don't know. I don't know what path I might be on. I don't know where I might be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it possible that you can go on one of these shows and not fight?

[Sukihana]

Yes, it is definitely possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they gotta be on their. They gotta be on their best behavior, huh?

[Sukihana]

If you around some drunk bitches, some people that like to drink, you, you already know that it's gonna be some fights. You know that liquor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you drink a little bit, though, before you got pregnant. So you probably drunk too.

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I was wrong. But I ain't drink as much as them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, you got me up here thinking that they be drinking and you be sober, you be right there with them.

[Sukihana]

Nah, I don't drink with them hoes. I don't even drink from they bottles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why you don't drink from their bottles?

[Sukihana]

You don't never know what these hoes having in their bottle or they weed. You can't drink and smoke with everybody. So I have my little cup. But I told my friend Sapphire, you know, listen, we drink a little bit, we let them bitches get drunk. Yeah, let them get drunk so we can see exactly who they is. But I need us to be on point. So when I know I'm going into a place And I don't really trust the energy. I'll drink a little bit, but as soon as I'm done with the pose, oh, we can go party, you know? Yeah. You can't be getting too drunk around people now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Sukihana]

Cause you never know. That's when your equilibrium ain't that good. They can throw you off your feet. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then do something bad to you.

[Sukihana]

Yeah. Hell, yeah. So. But I really. When I go on tv, I wanna be funny. I wanna have fun, you know? But I ain't. I don't kick it with everybody. I do fool with some of the baddies, and I fuck with Lemmy. I'm cool with Natalie, you know, some of the girls, but everybody ain't my cup of tea.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I mean, I tried to watch a little bit to see for this interview,

[Sukihana]

but you just gotta like fighting. It's like the wwe. No, wwe. It's like wwe. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but that's kind of rehearsed. Y' all don't be rehearsing. You used to be coming out.

[Sukihana]

I thought wrestling was real.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but you said you grew up fighting. You've been fighting all your life. Because people try to pick on you. They take advantage of you because they look at you as small and they think you're an easy victory. And then when y' all get to Tussler, you're like, okay, you see, B, I ain't as easy as you thought I was, am I?

[Sukihana]

Yeah, I'm not easy. Maybe to some people, but no, not to everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna invite you back, but you can't be fighting no more.

[Sukihana]

I don't want to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my goodness. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.

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