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Shannon Sharpe
Jada and Des was fighting. Why didn't you break it up?
Sukihana
I was not at that fight. This man is crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
You weren't gonna break it up anyway.
Sukihana
My mama raised me in one fight. All fight. If my little sister fight, we jumping in.
Shannon Sharpe
No. How about this? You grab one, have your other homegirl grab the other, and you pull them apart.
Sukihana
How about that? And you gonna think I'm pulling apart. And I'm gonna get some uppercuts on that. Don't touch my sister no more. They sitting there stretching. That girl desior she was doing her thing. That's a good friend. All my life been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle paid the price wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life look all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice hustle paid the price.
Shannon Sharpe
We would like to thank low key for hosting us today with this episode of Club Shay Shay. If you're in the Atlanta west midtown area, you have to come experience the city's hottest restaurant, Low key. They're serving up the best Asian fusion in the a. Now let's get to today's episode. Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I am your host, Shannon Sharpe. I'm also the proprietor of club Shay Shay speaking. Stopping by for conversation on the drink today, One of the most viral and outspoken people on the Internet today. She's a reality TV star, a famous rapper with a massive social media following. With a polarizing personality, she has a voice that's bold and authentic. She's a mother and a daughter, but she's not a magician or a musician. She's a mogul in the making. Please welcome y'. All. Forgive me for saying this, Suki with the good coochie.
Sukihana
Oh, I knew it. Hey, y', all. I know that's right. You know exactly who I am.
Shannon Sharpe
Sha. Y', all, y', all, please, please, please. I, I. You don't realize how long I debated. Should I say it? Is that still your. That's still your child's life.
Sukihana
That's always gonna be my name. That was always my name.
Shannon Sharpe
Sukiyana.
Sukihana
Mm. Yeah. And I am not self proclaimed.
Shannon Sharpe
That ain't Somebody told you that that's
Sukihana
my name out here. Everybody told me that.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody.
Sukihana
You see how these niggas be acting about.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, wow. Okay. Well, there have to be some truth in this, she's expecting baby number four.
Sukihana
Yeah, baby number four.
Shannon Sharpe
Two daughters.
Sukihana
No, two sons.
Shannon Sharpe
Two sons now.
Sukihana
About to be two daughters.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so you might be two and two. Are you done?
Sukihana
No, I'm a fruitful queen. I'm a fruitful queen. This pops several. Oh, Lord Jesus, I can have 10 more children. God said be fruitful. That's what I'm here for. I knew when I was born that I was supposed to have a whole bunch of kids. Mm. I mean, you multiply, you got four.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not enough?
Sukihana
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness. So how are you feeling?
Sukihana
I feel great. You know, my life right now has did a whole 360 from, you know, the last few years of being in entertainment, you know, so, yeah, I feel. I feel refreshed.
Shannon Sharpe
You feel refreshed?
Sukihana
Yes. I'm so grateful right now.
Shannon Sharpe
Any cravings? Peanut butter and pickles or anything? So are you just. Is it just normal? Is it any different from the previous three?
Sukihana
It's very different. I mean, I really love to eat everything, but I'm not eating ass for sure. Cause nobody need to be eating ass while they pregnant. That ain't right. Like, have some class, you know what I'm saying? Cause, you know, everything you eat goes
Shannon Sharpe
straight to the baby. Yeah, that ain't right.
Sukihana
That ain't right.
Shannon Sharpe
But if you weren't pregnant, that's you. You on that type of diet. But by the same token, you ain't got nobody doing that.
Sukihana
What are you asking for?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm just saying, By the same token, you ain't on that type of diet, are you?
Sukihana
No, no, no, no, no. I mean, everybody loves salad. You do?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness.
Sukihana
Okay, everybody in here done got they salad tossed, especially the white ones. All right, I'mma stop.
Shannon Sharpe
Lord have mercy. So is this gonna be a conventional pregnancy where you go to the hospital or you're gonna be. Have a midwife or you're gonna be. What's this one?
Sukihana
So I have doulas right now, and we are wanting to go full natural.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
I am scared, but they are preparing me for it. I don't really wanna do the hospital.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't?
Sukihana
No.
Shannon Sharpe
You wanna be home?
Sukihana
Yep, I wanna be home.
Shannon Sharpe
So when you say full natural, that means nothing, right?
Sukihana
Yeah, that means nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
So you just gonna basically spit, like, a bowling ball out and some water?
Sukihana
Yeah, damn. That's what I'm trying to do.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what you trying to do. But, you know, once you get there, I don't know if you can reverse it, right?
Sukihana
You can.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But you need to think long and hard about this. Sukiyah.
Sukihana
I've been trying. I've been thinking every day, and we're here, and I'm still like, I want to. I really do, but I know some of my friends, they didn't have been in labor for 52 hours of that.
Shannon Sharpe
And you want that kind of screw shaking pain for 52, you probably only want 52 minutes of that.
Sukihana
Yeah, no, you right.
Shannon Sharpe
You've obviously had three minutes.
Sukihana
See, they told me, don't be talking to people like you about it. Cause you gonna talk me out. No, he's getting me scared. Oh, my jeweler's gonna get you. I'm scared already.
Shannon Sharpe
You see a lot of women latto expecting her first Cora larae. She had her first cardi b added to her brood. So did Rihanna last year. What do you enjoy about motherhood and what does it mean to you? What does being a mother mean to you?
Sukihana
Being a mother, honestly, it means to love a baby unconditionally and protect a child. And I really love doing that. Like, out of everything I done did in life, my favorite part of life is being a mom, Loving children, teaching children, and being there for them, you know? So motherhood. I could give everything back. I would not give that. Like, I would. I would.
Shannon Sharpe
All the fame, all the. Everything that you've accomplished, just. I just want the kids.
Sukihana
Yeah. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Shannon Sharpe
Is the child's father, he okay with, like, does he want more kids?
Sukihana
Yeah, he wanna keep. He wanna keep knocking me up. Yeah, he already trying to plan the next one.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Sukihana
Mm. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You like? Hold on, bro. Hold on. I got four already. I mean, give me a break. Let me. So how close in age are the kids?
Sukihana
Okay, they're like two years. Well, this baby right here is over a decade.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Sukihana
Yeah. I haven't had a baby in over a decade. Okay? This is a decade apart. I've been holding out. I've been.
Shannon Sharpe
What you been holding out for?
Sukihana
Cause I, you know, I just didn't want to make the same mistake again. And so you feel you got a
Shannon Sharpe
good man, you got a man that's going to be in your life.
Sukihana
Yeah, but I just end up pregnant. I wasn't trying to get pregnant this time either.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean?
Sukihana
We was trying to hold off until maybe.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, if you go into the gym and you shoot up at the net, eventually you gonna go in? Uh.
Sukihana
Uh. I was on birth control. I was on two forms of birth control. One was the natural and Then one was Plan B. That's birth control.
Shannon Sharpe
You taking tic tacs and talking about that's birth control.
Sukihana
It was working.
Shannon Sharpe
Clearly it wasn't.
Sukihana
Uh, yeah. Can we still can people still. Can I sue the plan B company?
Shannon Sharpe
No, because it's not 100%. It's like 99.9. So you. The net 0.1.
Sukihana
I just pop up pregnant out of nowhere. I can't believe it. I'm very thankful, though. But it was just.
Shannon Sharpe
But you say you want more.
Sukihana
Yeah, but it was just out of nowhere. I was not prepared, you know, I wanted to be more prepared, but God put me in position to. I prayed that God would put me in position to make sure I can stably take care of a child. And the crazy part is I also prayed that God could help me stop drinking and stop, you know, partying.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes.
Sukihana
And then because I really couldn't go on stage and perform without taking a shot, a couple of, you know, so I feel like he answered my prayers and gave me this baby and it was like a rebirth. Like I done woke up and became a whole nother person in a dream.
Shannon Sharpe
But let me ask you this, okay. You haven't drank since you've been pregnant. What happens when you're not pregnant and you have have to go back on stage?
Sukihana
I got. I'm still performing now, you know, so every night.
Shannon Sharpe
So you found out now that I can perform without taking these two shots or three shots or whatever. I need to go on stage. I can do it without that.
Sukihana
Yes. And I can be funny without it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Cause, you know, funniness is, you know, you gotta have. You gotta make sure you own that stage. And I didn't believe in myself at the time. And now, you know, I'm Suki. I'm here.
Shannon Sharpe
So what's the cutoff number, Suki?
Sukihana
I would say the minimum. I would probably have seven. Seven kids. I can pop out seven all together in today's time. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Many years ago, people had a bunch of kids. Cause they worked. That was free labor. That was cheap labor. Well, in 20, 26 and beyond, you want three more kids after this one?
Sukihana
Yeah, I'm a fruitful and fruitful. It's women out here who are fruitful. I'm fruitful. I love being pregnant. I love having babies and taking care of them.
Shannon Sharpe
You love the process of making them or you love.
Sukihana
Actually, I love the process of making them. Hell yeah. Shit. Yup. That ain't my favorite part. I mean, sometimes that's my favorite. That is something that's my. I love making babies, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
So when you told the guy that you're with that you were expecting, he's excited. He's like, damn, okay, I've been trying to do this.
Sukihana
Yeah, he was very excited. I was excited too. I was a little scared because, you know, I just, I just got back on tv. You know, I took a little break.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Now I'm on one of the biggest TV shows and I am making a prominent amount of money, like a super amount of money. But you know, I'm just like, oh, I'm not picking money before my baby. This my baby. Y' all bitches, y' all see me after I had this baby.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I mean?
Sukihana
Yeah. So.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, you can't. Good. Cause you can't behave like you normally would be behaving.
Sukihana
Uh huh. So I gotta sit my ass. Yeah, I gotta sit my butt down.
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Sukihana
Because my music is adult music. Like, you know, we got different genres. We got country, we got gospel, we got hip hop, we got hardcore rap. My music is strictly for adults.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
But I Do have some songs that, you know, you can let them listen to music. Yeah, but my kids don't want to listen to my music. Hell, no. I let my kids be kids. They like kids stuff. Like, they like cartoons, Roblox, they like hanging outside. You feel me? That's. They not worried about.
Shannon Sharpe
How old is the oldest?
Sukihana
He's 16.
Shannon Sharpe
16. So he kind of knows the process of what goes into having a baby. So when you told him, like, so you said. Did you sit him down and say, mama, mama, you about to have a brother. You about to have a sister?
Sukihana
I hid it from my kids. Yeah. I hid it because they ghetto.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean?
Sukihana
Because they be like, how you pregnant? You know, I thought they was. I thought that they. I didn't know how happy they would be because there's so many of them, right? So, you know, I hid it from them. But then I started seeing them look at me and laugh and kind of talk about me, and I'm just like, what?
Shannon Sharpe
They say.
Sukihana
They just giggling, you know, and I'm just like, what is going on? One day I pulled them to the side and I said, listen, I'm pregnant. And it was like, we already know. I got some names in my phone for the baby, and I was like, wow. So everybody's around me happy. But before, they weren't that happy, like, mom, my family members, because I popped up at the Christmas parties pregnant every year, basically. And, you know, they were tired, but, you know, I guess everybody, you know, see me grow and become. I grew with my children. Yes, I had them young, but I became the best mother that I could be. And I love them, and, you know, now I take care of my family.
Shannon Sharpe
But it's about to be a situation where if you have seven kids, you're gonna be pregnant damn near half your life. Don't you want to do other things besides birth kids?
Sukihana
And, I mean, the other things that I want to do is probably birth some kids, travel and put them in school and stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
You know, I did a lot in the entertaining side. Like, you know, I done made my money. I did my shows. I was broke. I had fun. I was rich. I had fun. I done did some hoe shit. You feel me? I done, you know, I did everything right.
Shannon Sharpe
But movies, TV shows, there's also. Do you allow them to watch your show? If you don't allow them to watch certain movies and certain type of TV shows, do you allow them to watch Mommy?
Sukihana
Like the TV shows that I'm on?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Not really, but they don't really want to, you know, like my boys. I got a girl and then I got boys. Boys don't care about it. They like playing the PlayStation and stuff like that. And I just. I don't. They don't really take a liking into a way.
Shannon Sharpe
What's the picking order? The son's the oldest, the daughter's the oldest.
Sukihana
My son is the oldest. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Sixteen.
Sukihana
My daughter is. My baby's son is the youngest, and my daughter is the middle.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so you got a son, two girls, and now two boys. Okay. Yeah. You got two. Yeah. Okay, so you got. And the girl is sandwiched in between.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What'd your mom say when you told your hey, mom, you kidding? On the phone, hey, Mom, I was
Sukihana
like, mom, I didn't even get it out. I just stood on the phone for a little bit, and she was like, you pregnant?
Shannon Sharpe
She know you that well?
Sukihana
Yeah, she do. Yep. And I was already planning to maybe carry a baby for one of my sisters.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
That's what I wanted to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
But then I end up getting pregnant, and I'm the one that keeps having all the kids. Nobody else has babies.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Sukihana
Yeah. Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
But you also said your mom wouldn't let you listen to certain types of music when you were growing up. Do you believe more parents should do that, or do people allow their kids to listen to things that they probably shouldn't hear at the age that they start listening to them?
Sukihana
I feel like parents should monitor everything that their children do, from their tablets to the music they listen to, to what they watch and who they're around. I feel like that's even in the families. You have to watch who your children are around. Family members, like, you gotta monitor your children and don't let you know the world, raise them. That's just normal, right? I monitor my children. It takes a village. My whole family helps me and loves me and loves them.
Shannon Sharpe
At what age? What do you think's a good age that kids should maybe start looking at certain TV programs, start listening to certain music? Is there a set age or.
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Sukihana
I feel like it depends. I mean, as a teenager, you know, we gonna listen to. When I was a teenager, you feel me, I took a big liking to Tupac and DMX.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
And my mom did try to take my CDs from me, but it was no way.
Shannon Sharpe
You snuck and did it, huh?
Sukihana
Yes, I snuck in and listened to. I used to listen to him in my room. Then I found out who Lil Kim was.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
And I loved her.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
So, I mean, I think it's just about, you know, how I don't give a fuck. Y' all watch your motherfucking kids. Watch your kids shit.
Shannon Sharpe
But let me ask you this. Do you feel like kids are growing up too fast today? I mean, look, we're all, I was a kid once upon a time. You were a kid once upon a time. But I don't think we had the exposure to certain things that kids have today. They have the Internet, they have social media. They just, they are just inundated with so much more than what we had to deal with.
Sukihana
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
And kids, it seems like every generation, kids are growing up faster, they're getting smarter, they understand more. Is that a problem? Do you see that as a problem?
Sukihana
I do see children.
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Sukihana
Growing up faster because they have access to more where when we was kids, we used to Love to play outside, make mud pies, go on a swing, sliding board, summer camp. But it seems like nowadays, you know, the electronics are raising children and I see that. I mean, what could we do to reverse that? But take the tablets and take the phones and when I do, my kids go right outside and have a good time. They have more fun than they ever did.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's what we used to have to do. We didn't have that. So you had to go outside and play.
Sukihana
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
But now, you know, they're on the. Like you said, they're on the tablets. We give them the tablets, kids start crying, you give them a tablet to try to, you know, they're in the vehicle. If you're going somewhere, you give them a tablet to watch. So it's always something other than the human interaction.
Sukihana
But you gotta take those tablets and stuff and let them touch the grass. Touching the grass is important.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
You can't build real people skills from social media, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
So you gotta let the kids learn for themselves too.
Shannon Sharpe
How do you think you've evolved from the time to vary your very first child, the 16 year old, to where we are now? How you evolved? Who is this person compared to who she was 16 years ago?
Sukihana
Oh, my gosh. 16 years ago I was outside. I was young.
Shannon Sharpe
Outside. Outside.
Sukihana
Outside. Outside. You know, outside, you know, living life really fast. And I didn't have the most money, but I was in the hood, you know, had my friends, you know, going to clubs, you know, partying, and they didn't really have much responsibility.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes.
Sukihana
Compared to now, you know, I had to grow with my babies at that time compared to now, you know, I have a lot of love in me to give.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
And it's just better. It's just better off. I'm a better woman.
Shannon Sharpe
I read that at one point in time you were dancing while expecting. I know good and well. I know good G.D. well, you ain't get your butt on that stage and belly out here and butt out there.
Sukihana
I mean, there was a time where I was dancing. I had to figure it out. I ain't had no money. Shit. And I lost my id, so nobody was about to hire me.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, how you lose your id? Just go get another one.
Sukihana
I couldn't.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean?
Sukihana
I didn't have all the things that I needed, but at the end of the day, the strip club was right there.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so you ain't need no ID for the strip club?
Sukihana
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, how did they know you was of age? You could Got the baby.
Sukihana
They could tell I had my little stretch marks and everything. I already had kids and was pregnant while I was dancing, you know, I was trying to make.
Shannon Sharpe
Could they tell? Were you showing? Were you.
Sukihana
Like, they didn't care. That's what. It's. People in there with bullet holes in their ass and stuff, you know? So I was just trying to make my money, make my ends meet. Because we ain't had nowhere to go. So, yeah, I went to the strip club, got my little dance on, made my little couple dollars. I ain't make that much. And I didn't dance that long.
Shannon Sharpe
But hold on.
Sukihana
I was doing right. Cause I could have been selling pussy. So you feel me? That was lit. Oh, yeah. I was pregnant.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm saying you can't sell. No. Who I pregnant?
Sukihana
Yeah, you can't. Some people. Do you charge extra, too? For what? I'm just saying. What you mean you can charge extra? Pregnant is a different type of. Ain't no retina.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my God.
Sukihana
Don't act like y' all ain't fuck nothing. Nothing that was pregnant.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, come on.
Sukihana
All right, you own.
Shannon Sharpe
First of all. I mean, you own stage. Okay, look, I'm like, damn. Okay, you know, you say you lost your id, but maybe. I mean, there are some. I don't know, maybe Target or maybe one of these, you know, retail chains will give you a job as a cashier or something. Okay, fine.
Sukihana
But, dang, I was on my ass and I was just. I didn't know if I could bring another baby in. I already didn't have no help, no place to go, no car, no money, nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
Did the child's father didn't offer assistance?
Sukihana
I don't even know who he was. But at the end of the day, the baby made it.
Shannon Sharpe
But you know who he is now, though, right?
Sukihana
I don't know none of these. N. The thing is, when I. My new baby daddy is the only man that I ever been with in life. That's how it go with me. We don't talk. I don't know nothing about name, so he my first love. The first time I had sex was with him. That's how we go.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, no. You ain't finna do that. You ain't finna race. I'm not finna let you try to raise these men. But what if they wanna come back now and say, okay, we wanna be a part of the child's life?
Sukihana
Oh, no, they can be a part of their kid's life.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
No, that ain't I'm all for that.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they might wanna. What if they wanna spin the block? Say we realize we gonna spin the
Sukihana
block Niggas get shot around here, they don't play. Uh, we don't do that. Oh, Lord, you know? Mm mm. No spinning the block Especially when I got somebody that love me and treat me good yeah, yeah oh, baby, I don't go back.
Shannon Sharpe
You. Have you ever spun the block?
Sukihana
No. I tried. I don't like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Why?
Sukihana
Because when you go back, you realize
Shannon Sharpe
that there's a reason you left.
Sukihana
Yes. So I just rather not spend no blocks no more. Ever.
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Sukihana
I promise. Why would I do that? This ain't the. This ain't two decades, a decade ago.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I'm just saying. Just say that. I promise.
Sukihana
I promise that if. What's the promise again? I ain't gonna get on stage.
Shannon Sharpe
Gonna get on stage pregnant and ain't
Sukihana
gonna sell no cat. Yeah, and wait, hold up. She ain't gonna sell no cat no more. Ever.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Ever.
Sukihana
You saying I'm not pregnant? No, no, this don't sell no cat.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't.
Sukihana
Oh, hell no. I sell cat to my men every day. You know you lying.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm just saying. Okay, okay, look, he takes care of you, a roof provides, so forth and so on. If you consider that selling cat. I'm just saying. Selling outside cat to somebody that ain't in the house.
Sukihana
Yeah. No, I won't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
But. Okay, okay. All right. Y' all heard it.
Sukihana
Cause I like to role play with my man.
Shannon Sharpe
What type of role play?
Sukihana
Like, you feel me? I act like, you know, a little street walker walk up to his car and say, how much you got, Daddy? Let me get a little extra 50. And I do something strange. For I say it all the time. Like when he's taking me out to eating shit.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
I say, I suck a little dick for some crabs, then I do it, and I'm rich.
Shannon Sharpe
He probably. Hey, he probably get. I be bushing the crabs on the table.
Sukihana
Yeah, yeah. We get crab legs.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Big old crab claws up with Alaskan king crab. But let me ask you this. The Internet was buzzing because they say either Ray J or Dr. Umar were the baby daddy.
Sukihana
You messy.
Shannon Sharpe
I just. That's what they say.
Sukihana
I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
I read that, and I was like, well, dang.
Sukihana
That's what they said. How they gonna pick my baby daddy for me? That's crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I guess they kind of looking at the. You got the bead. Hey, can y' all see the bead? Look at the bead right here. Show her the bead. Show her the beads.
Sukihana
We made this dress. Hey, but, you know, I came to represent. I'm a black empress. Pan African queen.
Shannon Sharpe
What'd you say? Pan.
Sukihana
Pan.
Shannon Sharpe
And he used that term a lot. Pan Africanism.
Sukihana
Yep. That's what I identify as. Mm. Mm. I think Dr. Umar is a great teacher, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
But that's not my baby daddy.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay, okay. But he did. Wasn't he on the Breakfast Club saying that he would like to have a.
Sukihana
He said that? A lot of guys feel that way. A lot of guys feel that way.
Shannon Sharpe
You think a lot of guys want to put a baby in you?
Sukihana
Yes. They love me. They love me. You don't know me like that, but even you would love me, too. Yeah. No, for real. Yeah. I treat. You know, I treat men with respect and love.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Abundance, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Why is Suki so easy to love?
Sukihana
I feel like I'm easy to love because I love automatically. That's how my grandma raised me. So I'm okay with giving love. I'm okay with being there. I'm an easygoing person. I don't judge people. I'm a listener, and I'm a giver. So naturally, when I meet a man, automatically, I want to be there for you. I want to know how you like your food cooked. I want to know how you like Your chicken cooked. You feel me? I want to know all that because I'm going to show you I could cook better than your mama. You feel me? Yeah. I'm gonna show you something. So I learned.
Shannon Sharpe
So in other words, you're a nurturer.
Sukihana
Yes, I'm very nurturing. And that's why I like to be, you know, be a mom.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, yes, yes.
Sukihana
So, yeah, that's why they act.
Shannon Sharpe
So you treat. So you treat your man almost like he. Like you loving on him and doting on him. And he come in the house, he gonna know that you've been thinking about him all day.
Sukihana
Yeah. But he's still gonna have to spend that money, though. You know, I'll treat you that. Like that. But I still want you to make sure you provide and you take care of your.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't gonna take care of you.
Sukihana
It's not fair that you got all this liquor right here. And, you know I can't drink.
Shannon Sharpe
But I. But see. But we gonna give you this to go home. So when you. You know. Cause I want you to have a souvenir.
Sukihana
Okay. So after I had a baby.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. After you had a baby. You don't.
Sukihana
Thank you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you this. I mean, Pan Queen. Cause, you know, a lot of Pan African queen. Pan African queen. Could you be married to a man that have multiple wives? Could you be one of many wives?
Sukihana
I used to think I was okay with that when I was younger. You know, I did consider it. I don't feel like that's my path.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
I don't judge people who are okay with that, because I do feel like sometimes you. Maybe a woman could use a sister. Wife.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
You know, that's their home, though. But me personally, I would just like to be a wife by myself.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
I mean, no one has made me change that.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
I'm not saying that you're not close
Shannon Sharpe
to it, but at this present time, you're like, okay, it's gonna be me and my husband now, if he's like, okay, and convince me that if there is a benefit for me and this family, I might be open to it. But as of right now, nowadays, where I'm standing.
Sukihana
Yeah, that's how I feel. You know, a lot of people have multiple wives in different cultures and religions, but me, you know, I'm okay with just doing the me and my husband thing. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you go to Dr. Umar's school?
Sukihana
I actually did.
Shannon Sharpe
He actually has a school.
Sukihana
Yes, he does. He actually does have the school. And that same school I went to that school when I was younger.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Yeah. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So what's all this about? He was getting money to build a new school and the school hadn't been erected. Hadn't been built yet. What's going on with that?
Sukihana
I don't know. Cause I. He really.
Shannon Sharpe
But he actually does have a school.
Sukihana
Yes. And it's a big. It's a really nice school and I really respect it because it's in Wilmington. That's where I'm from. And I.
Shannon Sharpe
You from Delaware?
Sukihana
Yes, I'm from Wilmington, Delaware.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
So I respect his take on. You gotta get in them streets.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
To change. So I respect where he got has in school. But there's a lot of people over there need help.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
So, yeah, I went to that school.
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Sukihana
at 5 and 10 years of age? I always wanted to be a rapper.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
In entertainment.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Yeah. My mom wrote my first rap for me and I used to rap in the hood. She used to take me to people and say, go ahead and rap. And I used to rap to people, and they used to pay me. They used to give me, like, a little dollar here, a little dollar there. And I grew up in a family of music, so my grandfather and everybody made music. I went to a cultural art school, a prominently black school, Swahili school. So, you know, I really support black power. And that's. And you can see it, like, in different situations, it'll come out. So, you know, that's how I was raised. I was a D and I was a rapper, and I went to Kumba Academy in Wilmington, Delaware. And, you know, I end up going a different path. Getting in the streets, you know, having children, falling in love, and happily. I made it out of that, you know, Made it out the street.
Shannon Sharpe
You just told me earlier you didn't love none of them. Your baby daddy just.
Sukihana
I thought it was. Honestly, I guess there's a difference between in love and love. I genuinely had love for people.
Shannon Sharpe
You can love someone but not be in love with said person. Yes, you love that person, but you don't necessarily know if you were in love with that person.
Sukihana
You know, I know I wasn't in love. You.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. Okay.
Sukihana
But I had a little. You know how it is. And you in the streets when you young, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sukihana
The requirements aren't even the same. You feel me?
Shannon Sharpe
You're a different person now than you were then.
Sukihana
Yeah. So I had a fast lifestyle then. And then I end up seeing, you know, I had this guy that I was dating. He ended up passing away, and I started dating him. The thing is, I had my shit together before me and him even dated. I had my little business where I used to make shea butter waist beads. You know, I had my apartment, I had my car, and I ended up meeting him. He was a little older than me. He didn't want to come to the side. Little. Okay. He was like. He had been, like, seven years older than me.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Yeah. So he didn't really want to come to my side of town, so he ended up having me go with him, leaving all this stuff that I had, and I kind of lost my business and everything that I had. And I used to write songs and stuff, and I used to try to get him to read it, but he didn't even want to. He kind of just.
Shannon Sharpe
He wasn't interested.
Sukihana
No, he wasn't interested.
Shannon Sharpe
That should have been a clue right there. If he's not interested in what you like to do and what you want to Do. What made you think that? How could you love him?
Sukihana
Well, for my city. A lot of people will look at you crazy. If you believe in yourself, if you say, you know what I'm gonna be? I'm gonna be a rapper, right? They're gonna look at you like, bitch, you're dumb.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Sukihana
You know, so that situation happened where he wasn't supporting me and I did not have nothing in my pocket. It was getting real hard for me. Like, I was so sad. I didn't have nowhere to go with my kids. And he kind of just left. He kind of just ditched me. And that shit hurt. But what I did was.
Shannon Sharpe
So you had. When you met him, you already had kids?
Sukihana
I already had my kids, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How many kids did you have at the time?
Sukihana
I had three at the time.
Shannon Sharpe
You already had three. Okay, so he gets you. So did you move in with him?
Sukihana
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
You moved in with him? Did he have any kids?
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Sukihana
He had two.
Shannon Sharpe
He had two. So it was seven of y' all in the house. Your three, his two, you and him. Or did he have a kid?
Sukihana
He didn't have his kids.
Shannon Sharpe
He didn't have his kids. Okay, so you guys. You guys in the house. And it's like, okay. When did you realize, like, damn, this man is really not supportive? I'm like, just. I'm still. I'm with someone, but I'm really alone.
Sukihana
I felt like that when I just started to look around and look at the people around me and just going to the club all the time, you know, drinking, I was just like, bruh, I know that I'm supposed to have more than this. I know that this is not my life. This is just. I'm just sitting here until I figure it out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
He broke me down until I had nothing left to give. I had $300 in my pocket. I took me and my kids to Atlanta.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
When my grandma and my auntie came and picked me up, we drove all the way to Atlanta. I moved in with my grandma. I seen the strip club, of course. You feel me?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Fast, easy money.
Sukihana
I tried to make some money, and it ain't work for me because I had a natural body.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
All the girls in there had they bodies done it.
Shannon Sharpe
They already done.
Sukihana
Oh, my gosh. They was getting that money. But the guys didn't want natural girls. They only wanted natural girls to. For, like, $40.
Shannon Sharpe
40.
Sukihana
Yeah. Back then. Club wax in Atlanta. We here in Atlanta. You should stop by. You might like it. You got some good wings.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Magic got the best wings, though.
Sukihana
Okay. Magic do got the best wings. But anyway, it didn't work for me. And I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna get on Instagram and try it. And I got on Instagram, I made my videos, I showed people my personality, how funny I am. And then immediately everything changed. Soon as I left those people.
Shannon Sharpe
Your mom. So your mom is from Will. So obviously they're back there. So when did you realize, like, you know what? No, let's go back. Him. So you were going out with the club to him, just drinking and smoking and carrying on and.
Sukihana
Yeah, this is a fast life. Everybody doesn't.
Shannon Sharpe
So what was his job? What did he do?
Sukihana
He was selling drugs. Yeah. He was younger.
Shannon Sharpe
What did you think was gonna happen? Sukie?
Sukihana
I was young, you know, I.
Shannon Sharpe
You thought he Was gonna give up that job. You thought he was gonna give up that life because he got a girl.
Sukihana
Now I'm saying he had to give up no selling, no drugs at that time.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
You feel me? I ain't tell him he had to stop that. I wasn't thinking like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Sukihana
I was just thinking, you know, I had somebody who seemed to care about me, and we started dating, and I didn't see a future after that. Right. So after a while, I felt in my spirit, this ain't my circle. And God told me that, you know, the blessings that he may have for me may not be for everybody else.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Yes.
Sukihana
They can't always go with you on your journey. Sometimes it's people are lessons.
Shannon Sharpe
So if I'm reading this correctly, your grandma and your auntie come pick you up. My grandma, my brother and sister and I, we was raised by our grandparents. How different do you feel your life would have been had you stayed in Wilmington and continue down the path that you were going on versus coming and staying with your grandmother?
Sukihana
Honestly, like all my friends that I grew up with, I probably would have been on drugs. Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Did your grandmother. I mean, you already got three kids. Cause you. Even though you might have been young, when you got three kids, you're kind of, like, grown. You kind of, like, can move how you want to move. Cause it's not like a situation where you're moving somewhere. You move down and you don't have any kids, and they still treat you like you're a child. You got kids, so you gotta be an adult. It ain't no more kid stuff. You got to be an adult because you're no longer just responsible for Suki. You got three other people that you need to be responsible for.
Sukihana
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
So what did your grandma. So when you cut your grandma. So what was that conversation? What was that drive, that long drive from Wilmington, Delaware, to Atlanta, Georgia? What was the conversation in the car like, coming home, coming to Atlanta, I
Sukihana
mean, I just felt like I was back with my family. It's not no pressure. It's not people upset. It's just like. Like, we're going back home. Like, it wasn't an unwelcoming feeling at all. You know, I'm just going back with my family, and I have to leave this guy, and I have to leave these people, and I have to chase my dreams. I gotta become something. I got children. My family don't want to spend their time raising my kids. I gotta raise my kids.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Sukihana
So I believed in myself. I went to Atlanta. And I became something. I put everybody in position and, you know, I love everybody and I take care of pretty much everybody to my best ability.
Shannon Sharpe
Your father.
Sukihana
Oh, he played. He played.
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't have a relationship with him?
Sukihana
Barely. He played big time. Cause you never know who your kids may become like. He was not a good dad.
Shannon Sharpe
What do you mean in that respect? He didn't spend any time with you, he didn't give you anything. What would you. When you said, he's not a good dad? Give me, you know, buy context.
Sukihana
He was not. He was not around.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Financially, mentally, any of that. They had me young. My mom and him were high school lovers. My mom ended up getting pregnant at 16.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
And he ran track.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
He was successful in that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
And he wasn't there for me growing up at all, you know, but I did hear about the people in the city saying that he brags about me.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. When was the last time you saw your father?
Sukihana
I haven't seen him in probably 10 years.
Shannon Sharpe
Suki, that's still your father.
Sukihana
What?
Shannon Sharpe
You only get one of them two. There's gonna be a time that you're not gonna be able to go see him on this side.
Sukihana
He ain't wanna see me.
Shannon Sharpe
He don't know. See, here's the thing, Sukie. You don't know. See, without having context, you can't explain somebody choices without the decision that they made. So you said the decision, he didn't. Well, what choice did he have? Why did he make choose that?
Sukihana
We have no clue. Okay. We actually. My mom actually took me to him.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
You know, a couple times. And he had my number. One time he seen me when I had to move in with my cousin Muffin. He seen me and he said hi. And I was like. I was telling him, he was asking me for my number. I was like, I don't have a phone. You know, he said he was gonna buy me a phone and he was gonna come back. He never came back, literally.
Shannon Sharpe
How old were you? 15, 16?
Sukihana
No, I was like 18.
Shannon Sharpe
18.
Sukihana
Yeah. I was up there.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
He just never.
Shannon Sharpe
So how old you had your first child?
Sukihana
I got pregnant, like 17. Yeah. So I had mama around 18 years old. But the thing is, he had other kids. Oh, yeah, he had other children. He was.
Shannon Sharpe
That were older than you or younger than you?
Sukihana
They were younger and they lived in the same house.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. So now it may.
Sukihana
And my mom had a husband, so we weren't. She's not like a bitter baby mom. She don't care.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'M talking about you. Now, it makes sense to me because you say, okay, you got kids that live with you and that. You see, and I'm your child, and you don't wanna spend any time or get to know me. Now it makes sense to you, see? You see? Why did you say that before?
Sukihana
I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
But, I mean, because now I understand your frustration and your anger towards him because he does, and he does spend time with said kids. Now, me, I'm your child, but you don't have time for me.
Sukihana
Mm. And I was the first baby, you know, So I feel like he's not the first daughter.
Shannon Sharpe
The first child normally gets it all.
Sukihana
Yeah. I feel like if he was in my life, it may have. My life probably would have been different. But if it was supposed to happen, it would.
Shannon Sharpe
So did you want your dad's attention? Did you do anything for your dad's attention? Did you do anything for the attention?
Sukihana
Yeah, I used to call. I used to try to reach out to my grandmother on that side, you know, I really did try. My grandmom tried. My family tried.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Yeah. They just didn't understand what was the problem.
Shannon Sharpe
If your dad were to walk in this room right now, what would you say to him?
Sukihana
I'd be like, what's up?
Shannon Sharpe
No, dad, you can't say. No, you can't say, dad, what's up? He ain't a homie from the block. You supposed to say, hey, dad.
Sukihana
Dad.
Shannon Sharpe
He still.
Sukihana
I can't call him that, though, what you call him. I mean, I don't call him anything. I don't call him nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't think about your dad. You don't think about a relationship that you could have had or should have had. But you do realize if you were to reconnect with your dad, it's not. But you reconnect here and go backwards. It's. You connect here and go forward, but go, weirdo. Why don't you want your grand. Don't you want. He got grandkids. Don't you want them to know their grandfather?
Sukihana
They don't care about my side. They. You know, but they should.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a part of them.
Sukihana
They don't care at all.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but you probably.
Sukihana
Probably.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't care. You don't care. In which. Now, that's filtered down through them. But that's a side of their family.
Sukihana
But we tried. We tried. My grandma used to knock on her door, hi, your grandpabby's here. Cracked the door open, closed the door. They didn't really?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
Sukihana
Yeah. No, it's okay.
Shannon Sharpe
That had to hurt, though.
Sukihana
It would have hurt it, but I had a lot of love for my grandma. I had a grandmom's love. So, you know, it's different when you raised by your grandmom.
Shannon Sharpe
It is, it is.
Sukihana
I had a. I learned differently. I had a different love around me, so it never could affect me that much until I see my sisters get to go with their dad.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah.
Sukihana
Yeah. So, you know, then my grandma would take me and stuff like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
But luckily, you know, it's a blessing that the man that my mom has chose after my dad was very supportive of me as well.
Shannon Sharpe
So, you know, but just. Just keep it. Just keep the door jar. I ain't saying close. I'm not saying it's gotta be wide open, but just leave a crack in the door in case he wants to come back in your life.
Sukihana
Don't you think if he did, he
Shannon Sharpe
would have, hey, it might not be today, it might not be tomorrow.
Sukihana
I'm gonna wait till I get menopause.
Shannon Sharpe
From the looks of that, that ain't happening anytime soon.
Sukihana
Facts.
Shannon Sharpe
You on a roll right now?
Sukihana
Yeah, I'm on a roll. School, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Were you a good student in school?
Sukihana
I was very charming. Teachers loved me. I was funny.
Shannon Sharpe
Schoolwork. How was you in school?
Sukihana
It was hard. It was hard.
Shannon Sharpe
How was. No, no, no. Did you apply yourself, or did you go to school to crack jokes and be funny?
Sukihana
I mean, I applied myself. That didn't work. And then I realized, okay, telling jokes and being funny, it feels good, but
Shannon Sharpe
that ain't no schoolwork.
Sukihana
I tried. I mean, I had extra help, too. Cause I wasn't. I couldn't focus like every other child. You got to understand, the education system back then wasn't as advanced as it is now.
Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
Sukihana
You know, you can't just put 30 kids in a class and have one teacher and think that everybody's gonna learn at the same pace, you know, so school was hard. I was different. I had adhd.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. You know, so you were somewhat challenged learning.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And you needed special attention.
Sukihana
I definitely needed special attention.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
And I got it. I did get special attention. It was. I had some really great teachers, you know, that I.
Shannon Sharpe
But you had to go to a different class to get that, right?
Sukihana
Yep. Until they said, you know what? I realized that what they would do with kids who needed extra help, they would take us and put us in a smaller class.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Where I realize now that it actually hurts Children. Because you got people in the schools that make fun of kids.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
You know, so I see that they put more teachers in a class to make everybody feel, you know, so they don't have.
Shannon Sharpe
So there's no more. Like, if you're challenged, somewhat learning challenge. They're no more like, you go to this class. So they stay in the regular class. They just have teachers to help them.
Sukihana
Why segregate the students when you could just bring extra love and help in the class? So I respect what they're doing. Now, me, I had hard. You know, they even put us in a little line sometimes, so I had to learn how to fight.
Shannon Sharpe
So they made fun of you because you was in that class, that. It was probably like seven or eight of you in that one school.
Sukihana
Yep. And I love my classmates. We were lit well.
Shannon Sharpe
Why you fighting people?
Sukihana
It wasn't the people in the class.
Shannon Sharpe
I know you weren't fighting. It was the people that was outside the class that potentially made fun of you. Huh?
Sukihana
Yeah, I had to whoop a ass sometimes. You know, you a young lady.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't supposed to fight.
Sukihana
Let me tell you how hard school is. You may not want to fight, but people will keep picking at you. Cause you gotta understand, these are kids that are grown up, too. They don't know that it comes with consequences. When you start hurting others, you know, they gotta learn and bump their head a couple times. So, yeah, you pick with me too much, you know, I'mma whoop your. I'mma have my aunties in them now. My family got to step in. You feel me? Now we chasing school buses and shit. Cause y' all not about to keep picking on me. Hell, no.
Shannon Sharpe
Why you bringing family members into a fight?
Sukihana
My family come, they don't care about me bringing them. They coming. If I come home crying, this girl keep bullying me. They said I got a big nose. They making fun of my skin. Yeah, we whooping at. Yeah. I used to talk about every feature that I had in school. Yeah, we're. We're.
Shannon Sharpe
But you were there to learn. So what? So what? They tell you, you got a big nose. They say, what? You got big lips, you got a big chest, big butt. Who you there to learn?
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what you went to school to fight?
Sukihana
No, I went to school to learn. And I around and found out that school ain't. These kids is ghetto. You gotta. But I do respect the whole process because I had to learn how to deal with people in the world, you know, And I had to learn that no matter how much they talk about my. No. Or how I look, my hair. I'm beautiful. This is me, you know? So you gotta learn how to be able to move in a group of hating ass people. People that just don't know no better, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
When did you realize that, you know what school just in for me?
Sukihana
I realized it around 10th grade. I realized it around 10th grade. I'm just like, yeah, I don't want to do that, you know, But I. I wouldn't. It just wasn't for me. Yes, I tried, you know, and then I dropped out.
Shannon Sharpe
You dropped out? Do you regret that?
Sukihana
No.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you go get a ged?
Sukihana
I tried. Then I dropped out of that, too, But my mom was homeschooling us, so I got homeschooled.
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, with your mom. Is your mom an educator?
Sukihana
Yes, she is.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
She homeschools everybody in the family. She's really good at it.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Yeah. So she had to homeschool me.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, you dropped out of regular school, you dropped out of homeschool, you dropped out of ged.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So, yeah, the school probably wasn't for
Sukihana
you, but then I.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't focus, can you?
Sukihana
No.
Shannon Sharpe
You hyper?
Sukihana
Yeah, I'm so hyper, bruh. But then I went to cosmetology school.
Shannon Sharpe
How'd you learn there? You dropped.
Sukihana
Let me tell you. It's different ways to teach people stuff. Everybody can't learn from a book.
Shannon Sharpe
Some people learn from visually.
Sukihana
Visually, you know, so I was good at watching people to do something. Yeah. So I did great in that. And I started working in salons and stuff, so.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So you do nails, hair?
Sukihana
Yeah, I did nails and hair.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
I actually used to do a lot of natural hairs, like locs and stuff. That's where I started from. And then longer down the line, I end up going back into music and rapping.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you do your nails?
Sukihana
No, these. I don't do my nails no more. I wear press ons.
Shannon Sharpe
You used to do yours.
Sukihana
Yeah, I used to do my nails.
Shannon Sharpe
So you save a lot of money doing that. Cause you're expensive.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
What would. Do you remember the video that you did? You said you got on Instagram. You tried a lot of different things, but it was when you got on Instagram, do you remember the video that you did that went viral and you like, okay, I kind of like this. I kind of like this. Would you do.
Sukihana
I went in front of my mom's house and it was like this old mattress that they just threw out there. They never threw away. So I got in front of the mattress, did my hair, my makeup, and I made a little wrap. It's like I'm five foot but my throat six. Six. I'mma ride suck of me. Then you mad cause your fat like this. Then you're mad at my chicken gets. And then I just went,
Shannon Sharpe
I'm five foot but the throat six. Six.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The hoo ha fat.
Sukihana
Yeah. And your man ate my coochie like chicken nuggets. You feel me? But. Cause people always make fun of me cause I'm short. So I had to let them know it don't matter if I'm short.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, your man like it.
Sukihana
Yup, I'm fun to it.
Shannon Sharpe
But you tell you, you would tell women that two girls, daddy, wouldn't you?
Sukihana
Yeah, I told him I'm five foot but my throat's six. Six. I kept it real. And guess what? I made people feel liberated. Cause it's not only women whose throat is six' six. It's men too. It's the whole nation. Yeah, everybody love a big throat. So I just, I used what I got. I rapped about it.
Shannon Sharpe
You rapped about it?
Sukihana
Yep. And I'm still performing that song now. Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
When you did that song, men would come up and ask you too, didn't it? They ask you.
Sukihana
They just be like. They just say sukay. They don't do that. They just show love. They be like, sukay, what's up, Suki with the good coochie? Like, everybody know I'm a troll. I love to have fun.
Shannon Sharpe
How'd you come up with that? How did you come up with suki with the good. You know what?
Sukihana
Well, the name, the good coochie part was given to me, you know, and it matched. It rhymes with suki. So yeah, it was just given to me, you know. You know these people.
Shannon Sharpe
A guy gave you that name?
Sukihana
Yeah. And no. Have you ever heard that it was a lie? Have you ever heard. I heard a lot about me. Did you hear that?
Shannon Sharpe
No. Suki, I promise you, I don't know
Sukihana
anybody that you heard that I was suki with a good coochie.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause I mean, I read your bios, like. And I'm debating how am I gonna say this. I'm like, should I say this? And I'm like, this is the intro. And I'm like, lord have mercy, they gonna kill me.
Sukihana
Like, no, they gonna respect you more for saying that. Cause everybody know that's my name. They gonna be like, oh.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean you want to be known by that.
Sukihana
I don't mind cuz it's like that's my name. You can call me Sukiana if you want to but like, but Sukiana Suki. But everybody know I'm Suki with a good coochie. They can't take that from me. Nobody ain't say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never. Never.
Shannon Sharpe
I take your word for It Suki.
Sukihana
Never.
Shannon Sharpe
How'd you end up on Jerry Springer, though?
Sukihana
Jerry Springer was a time. Rest in peace. To Jerry Springer.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Because, you know, I'm happy that I got to meet him and got a chance to get to know him. And I know from that he genuinely loved black people.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
And I end up going to that show. When I first started, from that song that I just sang to you, the producers reached out and they was like, we need you on the show.
Shannon Sharpe
So you went on the show to rap?
Sukihana
Yeah, I used that as an opportunity to do my song. They wanted me to do other stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But you ended up dancing. You ended up dancing with the couple that was arguing that was on the show.
Sukihana
Arguing, yeah, because we want. Okay. So me and a guy named Seafood went on there because his name was what? Seafood?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know how he got that name.
Sukihana
Yeah, Seafood. We went on Jerry Springer. His woman was feeling like me and him was talking, and we was like, no, we just doing content. We're making fake videos and stuff. I go in there and got to sing my song. You feel me?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Sukihana
And that was the beginning.
Shannon Sharpe
That was it.
Sukihana
Yup. Jerry Springer. I definitely started from Jerry Springer.
Shannon Sharpe
So see you and Seafood. How did you meet Seafood?
Sukihana
He from Philly. I'm from Delaware. We just end up.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all end up just meeting. Okay. But his girlfriend felt that you guys had something going on. Did you guys talk on the phone? So, I mean, how often were you guys creating content?
Sukihana
Probably like every now and again. Maybe like twice a week. We'll make some videos and stuff. But we weren't. We weren't dating or anything like that. We were just making really funny videos. Like, me and him had a dream. We wanna make it. We wanna make it out. So we made some funny videos. Right when I started Instagram, Jerry Springer reached out.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Then guess what? MTV reached out. Then all these different people started reaching out.
Shannon Sharpe
So what's Seafood doing now? Y' all still cool?
Sukihana
Yeah, he's in comedy and stuff like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. Is his name still Seafood?
Sukihana
Mm. Seedo.
Shannon Sharpe
Seafood.
Sukihana
Yeah, Seafood.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Being loving hip hop Miami.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
How did that happen?
Sukihana
So shortly after Jerry Springer, loving hip hop reached out to me, and it was love and hip hop Atlanta and love and hip hop Miami that were both fighting over which one could get.
Shannon Sharpe
They was fighting over who you are.
Sukihana
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause they know you fun, you entertaining. You gonna keep it lit.
Sukihana
Yep. And that's what I did. I ended up getting picked up from Miami, and it was a really great experience.
Shannon Sharpe
Do you have a manager? So how did people get in touch with you? Did they DM you? Did they on IG or X or.
Sukihana
How did they get in touch with you back then? You know, they just hit me up directly. I didn't have no management.
Shannon Sharpe
So they hit you on the dm, huh?
Sukihana
Yeah. Nobody didn't want to manage.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you think it'd be like, man, this ain't no jerry spring. This ain't no love and hip hop, y'. All. Y' all trolling.
Sukihana
I would be so excited. I would not believe it. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Is this NBC? Oh, my gosh. Love and hip hop is asking for me. I was just like, wow. Oh, my goodness. Like, I didn't really know what to say. I was just very thankful.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. So how was that experience?
Sukihana
I just knew when I had the opportunity to walk on the stage or walk in front of the camera, that I would take over a room and own the room anytime I'm in there.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Sukihana
That's what I do. And love and hip hop went really well for me. It was a great time. And I'm just thankful for VH1. I'm thankful for that.
Shannon Sharpe
They make good money on them shows.
Sukihana
Yeah, they better.
Shannon Sharpe
Shit, you make good money, huh?
Sukihana
Yeah, I do now. I make. I'm definitely, definitely thankful for that. Cause, you know, as a woman, it's hard. You know, you gotta stand firm on what you feel you deserve out here, right? Cause they gonna say, oh, you a woman and you black. Uh, but you gotta stand firm. Y' all want me, Y' all gonna have to pay, right? And I need my coin.
Shannon Sharpe
And then you go on baddies.
Sukihana
Mm.
Shannon Sharpe
And you fall all the time.
Sukihana
I be falling.
Shannon Sharpe
Fighting.
Sukihana
Oh, fighting. Oh, yeah. No, not all the time, though.
Shannon Sharpe
A lot of the times. Why you like that?
Sukihana
No, it ain't why.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't just get along.
Sukihana
These hoes, these hoes, these hoes. It be these hoes. It be them. You see how cool I am? The can't take me. I come in that room, they smell how good this. They can't take it. They get mad.
Shannon Sharpe
They be hating.
Sukihana
I be intimidating. These hoes. My little self, my little short self.
Shannon Sharpe
But you can't go in there on that type of time, though.
Sukihana
I don't. I just go in there. I go. Listen, I don't fit in with everybody. I don't want to. I don't wanna hang out with people I don't know like that.
Shannon Sharpe
But you try to get to know somebody. Don't you wanna meet. That's how you meet people.
Sukihana
Why am I trying to meet people that they only trust theyself? I watch them every day, treat each other bad. They ain't no good friends. I don't wanna make no friends with them. I came to come get my bag. And the people wanted. The viewers want to see Sukihana on they screen, right? Suki ain't got to blend in with them.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't trying to make no friends.
Sukihana
Hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, you went on at that type of time talking about. Yeah, I know you know garden tools. I know y' all know that. This cat like that.
Sukihana
No, they hurt. I ain't say that, though. I just walked in. You feel me? What's up? You know, I give respect. I do show respect. Yeah, But I don't necessarily disrespect nobody. I show respect, right? But I ain't with the key can. Because you can't trust people out here. They'll take advantage of you, especially if you a big fish. You got a lot going for yourself. And they might want to be in the same position as him. So, you know, I'm very protective of myself, you know, that's all.
Shannon Sharpe
But you, I mean, so what was the difference? What's the difference between love and hip hop and baddies?
Sukihana
It's a big difference because the franchises are different.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Sukihana
I would say that love and hip hop, you know, they don't do as much fighting. Yeah, the crowd is a little older, you know, where baddies is, a younger crowd. And those people love to watch fights. Those people, you know, they like that style on there. So I love both franchises, though. I'm not gonna lie. It's fun. It is fun.
Shannon Sharpe
Do you look at it like, do you think people try to take advantage of you because of your size? Because they're like, look, she's small, she five foot tall. She ain't gonna do nothing. And they try to take advantage of you, and you feel you got to show them. You got to stand up for yourself. Like, y' all not finna walk over Suki.
Sukihana
Yeah, no, that does happen when you short your little one. People gonna feel that way. They'll try you, you know, But I demand respect. When I go on the run, I'm gonna get it, you know, or you
Shannon Sharpe
have to fight for it.
Sukihana
Huh? Yeah. You feel me? That's why I told them already. I don't walk around here like I'm the toughest person. I show respect. But I do warn people, you know, I will take it there.
Shannon Sharpe
I will did you fight as a child? Did you fight growing up?
Sukihana
I had to. But see, I knew when I was going to baddies that bitches is ruthless. They ruthless. You know me, I'm always on point. You know, I make sure that I'm prepared while they drink and get up all the time. I don't right, I'm working out, I'm with my kids and I'm making sure that, you know, I'm protected in every way. I know I can't beat everybody, right? But I do know my self defense law. So what I'm saying is. Yeah, I know my.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't trying to take it there.
Sukihana
I will take it there. I will have. So why bitches think that we we joking? I came to get my money and go home to my kids. I let them know that every time. Listen, I don't know what y' all got going on. I gotta get back to my kids. And I'm. I'm going back to my kids exactly how I look right now, you know. So every time I pull up, you feel me? I got people, I got my family with me. They still there. Same ones, they still there. While people think them black trucks outside is part of production. Each corner, that's my family. Each corner, every state. Yeah, I gotta make sure I'm okay out this bitch. So when I Mason, you feel me? That's me.
Shannon Sharpe
You Mason now you the police.
Sukihana
Sometimes you gotta make some. Ain't never been maced before.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no, I have one and I'm not trying to be maced.
Sukihana
Ain't nobody get maced in here. No, even I got maced.
Shannon Sharpe
I see why.
Sukihana
Yeah, see, Mace ain't nothing. It ain't that bad. I think that's something nice just to pump. That'll get a bitch mind, right? That'll get a mind.
Shannon Sharpe
So you mace and then take off running, huh?
Sukihana
Nuh, no, I'm Mace, you ho. And I'm lead her out the club last. I like mace. I don't even mind Mace in the air. I ain't running. You got to breathe it in for real.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but that's the objective. For you to get away, that's a
Sukihana
mechanism to get away.
Shannon Sharpe
That's like a skunk. You like a skunk spray you. That's for him to get away.
Sukihana
Like when you do, that's for them to get away. Back up off me. Why is I'm running. I'm about to, uh. Back up off.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, so you doing too much?
Sukihana
Mm, hell no. If these that they gonna get me. Don't that's what the world need to know right here. Don't ever put out a threat. Don't say what you gonna do to somebody. Cause you're gonna get them fully prepared.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah?
Sukihana
Yeah. You saying that you gonna hurt me? Oh, you said you gonna do what to me? Oh, I got you. I got everybody in this club. Watch this. Yeah, but that's. At times, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Have you ever made somebody. Have you ever been angry with someone and y' all later became friends or. Once you an enemy, you always an enemy.
Sukihana
Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. When somebody enemy of mine, they always. I'll never trust you.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause you'll never trust them. You can't trust them.
Sukihana
I can't trust you. I always gotta watch you. So I just keep my distance from you. But you gotta keep your enemies close sometimes, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you beat up a girl for using the N word?
Sukihana
Yeah, I did. I tore her ass up. I'll do it again.
Shannon Sharpe
Suki, you can't go around beating on people and fighting people. Hold up. I thought you said you a mom. I said, yeah. I thought you said you want to get home to your kids. That what you said.
Sukihana
I did. Ain't no. Ain't no. No white woman about to sit in my face and keep saying, nigga, you
Shannon Sharpe
was on the show.
Sukihana
Yes. I don't like it. It make me feel some type of way. It hurt me. It hurt me real bad. It make me think you playing with me. So I take certain things really serious, and I try to cover it and act normal sometimes. But I ain't gonna lie. When it come to how I was brought up and going to Kumba Academy, we had to sit there and watch Roots. Yeah, we had to watch it, you know? So certain things I don't play with.
Shannon Sharpe
Did you tell her to stop say, look, you need to stop saying that.
Sukihana
Yeah, I did. So one thing about it is, what I learned about people nowadays is that this is what I say. They want to be black until it's time to be black.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
You want to say, then I whoop your ass like a nigga, then you turn white. So I don't respect. I don't respect white Latinos saying N. I don't respect nobody saying n. I don't even respect my people saying it. But I understand. Yeah, but I can't let other people disrespect me in my face like that. It make me want to cry. You feel me? I want to do something to a bitch. Because at the end of the day. A lot of these people, they were. You don't see them at the protest, right? You don't see them fight for us, right? You don't see them, they stay out. I don't respect that. So I don't want nobody playing with us saying nigga this and n that. I don't like that. Just stop saying the word respectfully. If you respect our people, stop saying,
Shannon Sharpe
is there anything that you can't do on the show?
Sukihana
I mean, well, I mean, everybody know that show. It's a fighting show. You know, they travel, they do music, and I mean, they get down. You know, it's a dog eat dog world on there.
Shannon Sharpe
So right now you taking a break until you have the baby and then you going back home.
Sukihana
See, I'm a special guest, so they call me.
Shannon Sharpe
They call you when they need you?
Sukihana
Yeah. So, yeah, I'm taking a break. I end up finding out that I was pregnant on the show. And I'm so thankful that God protected me and my baby because I had no clue that I was pregnant, right? And then I just find out I'm pregnant and I'm going to protect me and my child. So, you know, I'm doing my mommy thing, my pregnant thing, and then after I have the baby, you know, I don't know. I don't know what path I might be on. I don't know where I might be.
Shannon Sharpe
Is it possible that you can go on one of these shows and not fight?
Sukihana
Yes, it is definitely possible.
Shannon Sharpe
But they gotta be on their. They gotta be on their best behavior, huh?
Sukihana
If you around some drunk bitches, some people that like to drink, you, you already know that it's gonna be some fights. You know that liquor.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you drink a little bit, though, before you got pregnant. So you probably drunk too.
Sukihana
Yeah, I was wrong. But I ain't drink as much as them.
Shannon Sharpe
But see, you got me up here thinking that they be drinking and you be sober, you be right there with them.
Sukihana
Nah, I don't drink with them hoes. I don't even drink from they bottles.
Shannon Sharpe
Why you don't drink from their bottles?
Sukihana
You don't never know what these hoes having in their bottle or they weed. You can't drink and smoke with everybody. So I have my little cup. But I told my friend Sapphire, you know, listen, we drink a little bit, we let them bitches get drunk. Yeah, let them get drunk so we can see exactly who they is. But I need us to be on point. So when I know I'm going into a place And I don't really trust the energy. I'll drink a little bit, but as soon as I'm done with the pose, oh, we can go party, you know? Yeah. You can't be getting too drunk around people now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Sukihana
Cause you never know. That's when your equilibrium ain't that good. They can throw you off your feet. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And then do something bad to you.
Sukihana
Yeah. Hell, yeah. So. But I really. When I go on tv, I wanna be funny. I wanna have fun, you know? But I ain't. I don't kick it with everybody. I do fool with some of the baddies, and I fuck with Lemmy. I'm cool with Natalie, you know, some of the girls, but everybody ain't my cup of tea.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, I tried to watch a little bit to see for this interview,
Sukihana
but you just gotta like fighting. It's like the wwe. No, wwe. It's like wwe. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that's kind of rehearsed. Y' all don't be rehearsing. You used to be coming out.
Sukihana
I thought wrestling was real.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but you said you grew up fighting. You've been fighting all your life. Because people try to pick on you. They take advantage of you because they look at you as small and they think you're an easy victory. And then when y' all get to Tussler, you're like, okay, you see, B, I ain't as easy as you thought I was, am I?
Sukihana
Yeah, I'm not easy. Maybe to some people, but no, not to everybody.
Shannon Sharpe
They gonna invite you back, but you can't be fighting no more.
Sukihana
I don't want to.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shay Shay profile and I'll see you there.
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In this lively and unfiltered conversation, Shannon Sharpe sits down with reality TV star, rapper, and outspoken social media personality Sukihana. Part 1 of the interview dives into her life as a mother, her unconventional journey through the entertainment industry, and her bold outlook on love, family, and authenticity. Sukihana candidly discusses her upbringing, her approach to motherhood, her experiences with fame, struggles, setbacks, and her refusal to conform or apologize for her unique persona.
Motherhood as Identity
“I'm a fruitful queen. Oh, Lord Jesus, I can have 10 more children. God said be fruitful. That's what I'm here for.” (05:18)
“Out of everything I done did in life, my favorite part of life is being a mom...I would give everything back. I would not give that.” (08:33)
Pregnancy & Lifestyle Choices
“I have doulas right now, and we are wanting to go full natural...I don’t really wanna do the hospital.” (07:14)
“I'm not eating ass for sure. Cause nobody need to be eating ass while they pregnant. That ain't right. Like, have some class, you know what I'm saying?” (06:08)
Children and Exposure to Her Work
“My music is strictly for adults...my kids don't want to listen to my music. Hell no. I let my kids be kids.” (14:31)
“I feel like parents should monitor everything that their children do, from their tablets to the music they listen to...” (18:28)
Relationship with Child’s Father
“He wanna keep knocking me up. Yeah, he already trying to plan the next one.” (09:10)
“I was on two forms of birth control. One was the natural and then one was Plan B. That's birth control.” (09:49)
Childhood and Strong Black Identity
“I went to a cultural art school, a prominently black school, Swahili school...I really support black power.” (37:26)
“They said I got a big nose. They making fun of my skin. Yeah, we whooping at...But luckily, I had a lot of love from my grandma.” (56:58, 53:27)
Education and Learning Challenges
“I had ADHD...needed special attention...But you had to go to a different class to get that, right?” (55:04) “You can't just put 30 kids in a class and have one teacher and think everybody's gonna learn at the same pace...” (54:50)
“I tried. Then I dropped out of that, too, but my mom was homeschooling us...She's really good at it.” (58:22, 58:36)
Path Through Hard Times
“I was dancing, I had to figure it out. I ain't had no money, and I lost my id, so nobody was about to hire me.” (26:07) “I ain't make that much. And I didn’t dance that long. But hold on. I was doing right. Cause I could have been selling pussy.” (27:02)
“He broke me down until I had nothing left to give. I had $300 in my pocket. I took me and my kids to Atlanta.” (45:01)
Breakthrough and Going Viral
“I'm five foot but my throat six, six. I'mma ride suck of me...And your man ate my coochie like chicken nuggets.” (59:57)
“That’s my name. You can call me Sukiana if you want to but everybody know I'm Suki with the good coochie. They can’t take that from me.” (66:37) “Nobody ain’t say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never.” (66:57)
Reality TV: Jerry Springer, Love & Hip Hop, Baddies
“Jerry Springer...the producers reached out and they was like, we need you on the show...shortly after, Love & Hip Hop reached out.” (67:02, 69:04)
“It's a dog eat dog world on there...those people love to watch fights...it's fun.” (78:43) “When I go on tv, I wanna be funny. I wanna have fun, you know? But I don't kick it with everybody.” (80:51)
Standing Up for Herself
“Yeah, I did. I tore her ass up. I’ll do it again.” (76:31, about fighting someone for using the N-word) “I demand respect. When I go in a room, I’m gonna get it...you feel me? I will take it there.” (73:13)
On Motherhood:
“My favorite part of life is being a mom. Loving children, teaching children, and being there for them.” (08:33)
On Struggle and Resilience:
“I put everybody in position and, you know, I love everybody and I take care of pretty much everybody to my best ability.” (48:32)
On Being Authentic:
“I’m easy to love because I love automatically. That’s how my grandma raised me. So I’m okay with giving love. I’m a listener, and I’m a giver.” (32:53)
On Her Stage Name & Persona:
“That’s my name...nobody ain’t say oh that bitch. I done had that cat. That shit was trash. You never gonna hear that about me. Never.” (66:37)
On Fighting as Survival and Principle:
“Ain’t no white woman about to sit in my face and keep saying, nigga...It make me want to cry...Because at the end of the day...I don't want nobody playing with us saying nigga this and n that. I don't like that. Just stop saying the word respectfully.” (76:46–78:35)
This episode is visceral, honest, and humorous, with Sukihana’s unapologetic, sometimes raw language and Shannon Sharpe’s signature warmth and curiosity. Conversations are deeply personal but always laced with humor—even in the face of hardship. The dynamic is playful but also touches on serious themes of resilience, self-worth, and cultural pride.
Part 1 of Shannon Sharpe’s conversation with Sukihana is a vibrant, no-holds-barred look at her journey from a tough childhood in Delaware to reality TV stardom and motherhood. Sukihana’s candor about struggle, survival, family, standing up for herself, and finding pride in her unique persona makes for an inspiring, entertaining, and deeply human episode.
Next: Part 2 continues the discussion.