Club Shay Shay - T-Pain Part 2

Summary

Club Shay Shay – T-Pain Part 2 with Shannon Sharpe

Release Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: T-Pain

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Episode Overview

In this candid and entertaining follow-up conversation, NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe welcomes iconic artist T-Pain back to Club Shay Shay. The two dive deep into the realities of the music industry, T-Pain’s 20-year journey, lessons in business and friendship, catalog sales, creative process, Internet fame, and family. T-Pain pulls back the curtain about what truly matters to him and how he's navigated stardom, reinvention, and personal fulfillment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Truth Behind “Buy U a Drank” and Music Business Lessons

• T-Pain explains why he didn’t make as much as expected from his classic hit (“Buy U a Drank”) due to sampling and publishing rights:
  • Paying homage to other artists’ lines led to ownership issues.
  • “I thought I was paying homage...the people that could take advantage of it, they take advantage of it.” (T-Pain, 03:30)
  • Labels/publishing companies—not the artists themselves—claimed shares.
• Performance remains lucrative:
  • Despite losing publishing/master ownership, T-Pain says he makes “$100,000 a night” performing the song live—far exceeding what publishers earn.
  • “While they were making 8 cents every three months, I was making 100 grand a night off of performing it.” (T-Pain, 03:58)

The TikTok Effect and Delayed Recognition

• Songs, including “Club Husband,” sometimes go viral years after release thanks to TikTok—even songs T-Pain himself wasn’t fond of:
  • “I hate it. That was the worst.” (T-Pain, 06:12)
  • He likens it to a relationship where you put in all the effort but the praise comes years later, when you've moved on.
    • “Why didn’t you say it then? You know how much power I put into that...and now you want to have a good time?” (T-Pain, 07:15)
• The frustration: Social media can create sudden value he can't predict or control, and sometimes others profit off leaked music.
  • “This nigga said, hey, I stole your shit and made money off of it. So you need to give me money now.” (T-Pain, 08:57)

20 Years in the Game: Hard Realities About Relationships

• Shannon asks about lessons from T-Pain’s two decades in music:
  • “Nobody is your brother. Nobody.” (T-Pain, 11:21, 15:04)
  • Artists often promise loyalty, but few reciprocate; T-Pain has learned to focus on who adds real value, not empty “brotherhood” talk.
  • “I'd rather you tell me what the business was and not have the brother aspect in there...Let’s do it again. I’d rather know the plan than to say you my brother.” (T-Pain, 15:51)
  • Memorable analogy: Shannon’s “python story”—warning how some friends seem caring but are just “sizing you up” to take advantage (19:21–20:01).

Removing Fake Friends and Outgrowing “The Feature King” Era

• T-Pain is direct about cutting off those who treat him transactionally.

  • “You make it very obvious...No, I am not [available].” (T-Pain, 21:03)
  • As he’s grown, he values honesty over forced friendships, realizing some connections were just business.

• During his feature-heavy peak, some artists didn't want him in their videos to avoid association if his style faded.

  • “Just in case the thing I was doing was a gimmick and they can separate themselves from me later on...It didn’t work out their way.” (T-Pain, 23:27)
  • Now, T-Pain’s identity is his own: “It’s just me and my wife.” (T-Pain, 24:24)

Why T-Pain Sold His Catalog

• Shannon presses on the decision to sell his hits:

  • The lump sum offered was equal to “100 years’ worth” of earnings.
    • “Why would I sell y’all this? [They said,] ‘We’re gonna give you 100 years’ worth of money right here, all at once.’” (T-Pain, 25:09)
  • The deal is a partnership (with HarborView), letting them claim future projects but also infusing major up-front cash and opportunity for new collaborations (27:10–28:56).

• First major purchases:

  • A 50,000 square foot building “for all my businesses.”
  • A plane.
  • T-Pain’s wife stayed low-key, wanting “some black shirts.” (30:44)

Early Hustle and DJ Perspective

• Started as a 14-year-old DJ, carrying crates to gain club entry.
  • Learned what makes songs hit by observing DJ crowd reactions.
    • “The reason I can make the songs the way I make [them] is because I was hearing the songs that DJs were playing...and I started studying why people like the parts of songs that they like.” (T-Pain, 35:24–36:45)

Bad Investments and Lapses in Financial Awareness

• Reports buying a Bugatti with his last money, not knowing it; careless investments (e.g., $150K on his granddad’s “sagging jeans” invention that never launched).
  • “When I bought that Bugatti, that was the last bit of my money, and I had no idea.” (T-Pain, 37:32–37:44)
  • Now, he’s vigilant: “If somebody tries to send $4 from one of my accounts, I get an alert.” (38:38)
  • Missed out on fashion trends he was ahead of, like pants with built-in boxers, later sold by Balenciaga. (39:30–40:45)

Streaming, Twitch, and True Transparency in Creation

• T-Pain creates all his music live on Twitch now.
  • Fans see every step from “first sound to release.”
  • “If your favorite artist ain’t doing the whole process, then what y’all watching this for, right?” (T-Pain, 41:04)
  • Open process highlights authenticity against today’s AI- or ghostwritten music climate. (44:56–45:02)
  • He enjoys the creative split between “drunk T-Pain” for ideas and “sober T-Pain” for finishing touches.

On Auto-Tune and Artistry

• Why he chose Auto-Tune:
  • To set himself apart, referencing Roger Troutman who also masked his natural singing voice for uniqueness.
    • “If you’re just gonna sing, just gonna be another singer...why put yourself in that category when you have the opportunity to set yourself apart?” (T-Pain, 49:37)

Genre-Bending and Vocal Talent

• Shannon asks if T-Pain would pivot genres à la Beyoncé.
  • Connects the roots of R&B, blues, and country, noting African American community’s deep influence. (50:08–51:16)
  • His cover album “On Top of the Covers” showcased his real singing voice, surprising most fans.
    • “I didn’t prove a point, but it was just like a, ‘See, I can really sing.’” (T-Pain, 52:19)
  • Crowdsourced song selection for a future covers project.

Writing & Giving Back

• Used to crave credit as a songwriter for others but now chooses satisfaction and financial reward over public acknowledgment.
  • “I had to learn to stop wanting to be in front of the camera.” (T-Pain, 54:56)
• Continues to give away “T-Mixes”—free features for songs he genuinely loves. (56:10)

The Masked Singer Experience

• Tried to drop out three days before but stuck with it (and won).
  • “Every night I was performing blind and I couldn’t see shit.” (T-Pain, 59:01)
  • Had to learn how to breathe differently for the “Madonna mic” and sang “Stay With Me” holding his breath to avoid audio issues.

Defining Success & What Matters Most

• T-Pain’s proudest achievement isn’t musical:
  • “My wife love me, and my kids don’t hate me, because I know so many that that is not the case.” (T-Pain, 61:42)
  • Cherishes genuine happiness at home, rejecting stereotypes of unhappy families.
  • “I can literally go broke tomorrow...but I’m still rich as [hell] because my kids and my wife love me.” (T-Pain, 64:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Industry “Brotherhood”

“Nobody is your brother. Nobody.”
— T-Pain (11:21, 15:04)

On Outgrowing the Need for Credit

“I had to learn how to stop wanting to be in front of the camera...I did help your favorite artist. I did write this country song, I did write this shit...But I don’t need that credit.”
— T-Pain (54:56)

On Selling His Catalog

“We’re gonna give you 100 years’ worth of money right here, all at once.”
— T-Pain (25:09)

On Family

“My wife love me, and my kids don’t hate me...That is such an accomplishment for a black man that it’s—I mean a [man] can really be like, ‘T-Pain, your mama a hoe.’ Yeah, my wife love me, though...I can literally go broke tomorrow. I can lose all my money tomorrow. But I’m still rich as [hell] because my kids and my wife love me.”
— T-Pain (61:42, 64:09, 64:23)

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Important Timestamps

• [02:34] – T-Pain addresses not making money from “Buy U a Drank”
• [06:10] – Expresses frustration about TikTok delayed success
• [11:21, 15:04] – “Nobody is your brother” in the business
• [17:15] – Lessons on who to keep on your team
• [25:09] – Explaining catalog sale decision
• [35:18] – Early days as DJ shaped his creative approach
• [37:32] – Losing it all by buying a Bugatti
• [41:02] – Creation process transparency on Twitch
• [49:12, 49:37] – Reason for using Auto-Tune, citing Roger Troutman
• [52:19] – Reinforcing his natural vocal talent
• [54:56] – Letting go of the need for recognition as a songwriter
• [59:01] – Masked Singer technical struggles
• [61:42, 64:23] – His grandest accomplishment: a happy family

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Tone & Style

True to both Shannon’s and T-Pain’s personas, the episode is fast-paced, brash, funny, sometimes raunchy, but ultimately honest and generous with wisdom.

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Summary Takeaways

This episode offers an unvarnished look at T-Pain’s journey through stardom, betrayals, creative evolution, financial lessons, and above all, the importance of fulfillment at home. The music business is a minefield of shallow alliances—what counts are the family and real friends you keep close, the joy in creation, and the wisdom to cut off what doesn’t serve you.

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For fans of music, business, or anyone chasing their own lane, this conversation delivers lessons and laughs you won’t soon forget.

Transcript

[T-Pain]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. How about this? Is it true you didn't make any money from buy you a drink?

[T-Pain]

I made some money from buy you a drink. Buy you a drink.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You made some money, but not the money you should have made or could have made.

[T-Pain]

I made some money because I was paying homage, okay? And I thought that paying homage would have been cool, which it was at first. So when I did, I'm gonna buy you a drink, then I'm gonna take you home with me. I got money in the bank. As soon as I said money in the bank, that's when little Scrappy came in and was like, okay, well, he said a line for my song because he. Little Scrappy had the song at the time. I got money in the bank, shawty, what you think? I got money in the bank. Yeah. And then shawty, what you think about that? I'll be in the. Greg, I like we in the bed. All right. So at the beginning of the song when I said, snap your fingers, do your steps.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's luch.

[T-Pain]

You can do it all. Then Lil John came in, it was like, well, since this song is doing well, I don't mind if I do. Head ass. So, you know. No, it was one of them things that was like, I thought I was paying homage. And then the people that could take advantage of it, they take advantage of it. So. But the thing was they took advantage of the publishing and the master of it. So while they were making 8 cents every three months, I was making 100 grand a night off of performing it. Like, I'm like, okay, whatever you want. Be greedy, but you're not going to get what I'm doing. So do you think. I mean, still love to all. To all of them. And I don't think it was them either. I don't think it was Lil Scrappy doing it and I don't think it was Lil John doing it. Obviously it was their publishing company, right. That were coming for other stuff. And little John probably still don't know that we Went through that whole thing. So, you know, it was a moment in life that I was like, oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So this is how.

[T-Pain]

Ain't my brothers, like, everybody that didn't call me their brothers and everybody saying all this. Maybe it's not, but I understand now as a grown up that maybe it wasn't them. And, you know, nobody's ever said anything to me. Seen Scrappy numerous times. I've seen Lil Jon a thousand times, and nobody's like, ever bought it up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, was that a very hard lesson for you to learn?

[T-Pain]

Not. No, not. Oh, it was a. It was only a lesson for me to learn to where I was like, oh, they're not taking all the money from this record. They're taking the publishing and the masters from it. But I'm always gonna make money from. From doing that record.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[T-Pain]

You know, and there's nothing that anybody can do to stop me from making the auxiliary money right from that record. So it's not going to be a. It's not going to be a. A publishing or a master thing when I perform that song. You can't take any of that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? And you don't know how. You know. Not only do you not know how much I'm charging for that song, but I mean, if you knew how much I was getting off of that song 20 years after you tried to take the money from it, you shit out of your dick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Club husband. It blew up on TikTok. But it's three. It's been so long. It's been a while. You released this.

[T-Pain]

It's like two, three years old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, were you surprised? Like, damn, hold on. I released this song two, three years ago, and now it's blowing up.

[T-Pain]

I hated it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You hate it?

[T-Pain]

I hate it. I hate. That was the worst. Oh, my God. Can you imagine, bro? Can you imagine, like trying to put it in terms that you can, you can understand. Can you imagine a chick so hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, dad, give it to me in a sports term. What about if I. I'm not sports.

[T-Pain]

Enough to know this. I know. Imagine the chick so hard and you put all your, you put all your hip into it all both replacements. You put you, you, you put you. You put everything into it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And she was just like, all right, good stuff. See you. See, see you next time. And then she don't call you back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, she ghost you.

[T-Pain]

And then two years later, you hear from somebody else that, hey, remember that chick you like three years ago? She said that was the best time she Ever had in a. What? It's one of those. Oh, it's one of those. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

That hurt. That hurt, bitch. Why didn't you say it? Yes, why didn't you say it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should have said that then.

[T-Pain]

You know how much power I put into that, into making sure you had a good time, and you didn't say nothing, and now you want to have the good time. Hey, by the way, she said she wanted to get back up with you and do it all again. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[T-Pain]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I moved on.

[T-Pain]

I'm okay. You know, I moved on, so, you know, I'll just be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So is that a new way? Is that a new way? Because I see a lot of times songs are becoming popular on TikTok before they become popular Main Street. Is that kind of how this thing going?

[T-Pain]

Pain? I hope not, man. It takes so much time to make these songs and do all this stuff and actually put time and work into this shit. And then if somebody just posted on TikTok, it Get more famous then. Because keep in mind, the reason that it got famous on TikTok was because I was making it on my stream, right? But I was playing the acapella in order to make a dubstep version of it because I gave up on trying to release the regular version. You know what I'm saying? So when I gave up on making the regular version a thing, that's when it popped. And it wasn't like a. It wasn't like an extended version or anything like that. And then, oh, my God. Then the person that leaked it came on my stream weeks later and was like, hey, you need to put me on your team, because apparently I'm really good at reviving your career and I can make you money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That man said that on your screen.

[T-Pain]

This nigga said, hey, I stole your shit and made money off of it. Of it. So you need to give me money now. What? So now, hey, I'm really good at knowing when you need to be good at stuff. So I just steal the content that you're doing and I'll put that content out, and that's going to make me money. So you need to give me money for doing that.

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[T-Pain]

What the. Can you imagine popping all that sauce into a. And then she don't say nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can we get sport? You don't know anything about sports.

[T-Pain]

I know a little bit. I'd rather do the. I'd rather do the. Rather do the analogy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. How does it feel to you? Cause there's this Young, chopped and skewered. Draya Michelle did a. I think she did a thing.

[T-Pain]

There's a bunch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Because Jalen Green thought it was a new song.

[T-Pain]

Right. Yeah. And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But obviously when you made that song, he probably was a couple of months old, so you must understand. But now you got a new generation that's discovering.

[T-Pain]

Right. Exactly. Now imagine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Pumping all that sauce into a dish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord have mercy. I did catch a bunch of touchdowns. I caught a bunch of touchdowns.

[T-Pain]

You supposed to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I scored a bunch of points of high school basketball.

[T-Pain]

Nope. It was just the one video. Nope. You did nothing else the whole beginning of your life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

It was just the one video. Now imagine all that you did. All them. All them passes, all that. But this is like. Oh, Shannon from the. From the video.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how. You know. Unfortunately, some people does it.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Are you talking about Shannon with the pants? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no. I know. You're talking about. Not the. Nope. Not that. Not the. Not the whole career. Nope. Just the pants.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, it's the 20 year. The 20th. The 20th anniversary.

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. Rapper turned singer.

[T-Pain]

Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What have you learned about this business in 20 years?

[T-Pain]

Nobody is your brother. Nobody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on.

[T-Pain]

Pain.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't. Don't do that. Nobody. Payne, Come. I hear it.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

That's my brother. I hear it in pain.

[T-Pain]

We have seen so many dicks in that locker room. None of them is your brother. Come on, nobody is your brother. Everybody's your brother while they can use you. Everybody, everybody is your Brother, while they can use you. Nobody is your brother. That is the quickest and the most consistent thing that I've learned through this whole thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You had to learn that the hard way.

[T-Pain]

Everybody, that everybody. And you know what? It's only that say you my brother that I'm telling just like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Because you wouldn't allow. You wouldn't allow somebody that didn't say that to get close to you.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, you would.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, you would. I'd rather you tell me what the business was and not have the brother aspect in there and just say, hey, look, here's what I want to do. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a hook. We're going to. I'm going to put a verse on this shit. We're going to make a bunch of money. I'm we going to separate for a little bit, and I'm come back when I need you again. Let's do it again. I'd rather know the plan than to say you my brother. You my brother. You my brother. No, but we always going to be together. We ain't going to never. We ain't going to never separate. Anytime you need me, I'm here for you. Anytime you need me. Bum, bum, bum. Nah, bro. It's that brother shit. Nobody is your brother. I've had DJ Khaled. Everybody then told me I'm your brother. Do not believe that. Lord have mercy. That is the, that is the, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know you're gonna get me in trouble, man.

[T-Pain]

You gonna get us in trouble, I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gonna get us in trouble. All that.

[T-Pain]

But I mean, but, but no, I mean, when I say, when I say, when I say, like DJ Khaled, it's very apparent. Yeah, like, DJ Khaled knows how to move. He knows how to, you know, do things with different people and shit like that. But it's like, it's not, it's not, it's not a DJ Khaled type of thing. That's just the first person I can think of. But we talking about so many people, because you got to think of how many people I've helped throughout their career. Everybody is like, oh, my God, thank you so much. You're my brother. And it's just so much of that back to back, back to back, back to back, you're my brother. You're my brother. You're my brother. You're my brother. And then none of that shit was reciprocated. None of that shit came back. None of that shit Meant anything. When people start. When people tell you how much you mean to them, don't grab onto that. When people tell you how much they can mean to you in return, that's the shit you gravitate towards.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

When, When there's people on your team and sometimes like I like, I love telling people that they're about to get a raise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? So I love, I love going to my team and like, hey, I'm about to get you a raise. And when somebody says, thank you man, I appreciate it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

It's like, okay, it's probably gonna be your last race. But when I go to somebody and I say, yo, you about to get a raise. And they say, can, can I, Is there something I can do more work? Like, can I? Yeah, is there, can you like also raise like my responsibilities or something? Them the people you keep, right? You feel what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Them the people you keep around, you know, and when you, when you do something so astronomical as to build in somebody's career and they just say, yo, you my brother, bro Bop gang, never gonna see you again. And then it's like when you do something astronomical like, bro, you built my career up, there has to be something I can do for you, right? That's the people you keep around with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Have you heard the story about the lady in the python? This lady had a 10 foot python and the python stopped eating. Month goes by, two months goes by. He wouldn't sleep in his pen. It wouldn't sleep in his pen. It only wanted to sleep next to her. Two months, but it wouldn't eat. She takes it to the vet. She said, I don't know what's wrong. I don't know what's wrong with the snake. It won't eat anymore. He said, wait a minute, how long has it been? How long has it not eaten? Like two, three, like two, three months. Say, does it want to just sleep next to you?

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say there's nothing wrong with this snake. So that snake is sizing you up. It's going to eat you.

[T-Pain]

It's going to eat you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just getting close to you to let you, let your. Make you let your guard down.

[T-Pain]

Wonder where that was going. It's gonna, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see what happened?

[T-Pain]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And there are times let your guard down. This is my brother patting you in the back all the while, all the time.

[T-Pain]

And I just, you know, there, there have been times where I've not been like a great friend to people and shit like that, but I didn't. Like, I had no idea. I thought I was doing everything that all the artists were supposed to be doing, right? Like that, you know. You know, when I'm getting gifts from and then come to find out, it's just like all the shit they got from the. From the Grammy gift room. And, like, you just go through the line, it's just like, oh, you got a watch? Yeah. Hey, nigga, I got you a watch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did buy somebody gifted you that somebody, right? You re gifted.

[T-Pain]

Exactly. So, damn. You know, it's a little like that, man. And. And it. You know, again, it's patting you on the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, how do you move, though, Tank? How do you move? Someone says you're your brother, and you see, you come to find out that they're moving funny, they moving sideways. How do you remove yourself without making it so obvious that you remove yourself.

[T-Pain]

You make it obvious. You make it very. You make it very, very, very, very obvious. You make it very obvious because it's like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you want him to know that you don't f. With him no more.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. You have to. And that's the only way you're gonna remove it, because if you lead them on, they're gonna keep calling you, like, hey, you available this week? No. No, I'm not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm available this week.

[T-Pain]

I am not available this week. Wait, did you think. You think we was gonna start working again? I mean, you my brother. No, we're not. No. No, I am not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[T-Pain]

No. So it's like, you know, things like that. You have to. I've learned as I've grown up and as I've come to, you know, because like, when you start hitting in your 40s, you start losing a lot of friends. And it's not because of you becoming, you know, antisocial or anything like that. It's because it's like, oh, can we agree that we've never really been friends?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[T-Pain]

We can be grown up about this. That we've never really been friends at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Other than being artists. We really have nothing in common.

[T-Pain]

That's it. And it's just like, now that we. Bro, we're both in our 40s. We have nothing to like you at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The age now, Paige, you get to choose your friend. It's not like we had to be at elementary school, junior high, high school.

[T-Pain]

We can both agree that we have nothing in common. And none of us has an advantage from us saying that we're friends at all. We don't. There's no, like, nothing gained. There's no. Me featuring you, that's gonna rock the airwaves. Like, we're good. We can just stop saying that. We cool, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's stop doing it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

You know, like, man, there was so many. There were so many. There were people. When I was doing, like, when I was, like, heavy in features.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, you. You the feature king.

[T-Pain]

You. I'm the feature king. I was a feature king. When people started me doing features, there were bigger artists that were like, I don't want to be, like, in the video with him. Like, I know he's like, you need him as a feature, but can we not have him in the video with me at the same time? What? Like, there were so.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me.

[T-Pain]

Happen so many times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't. You want me on the feature, but you don't want me in the video.

[T-Pain]

Just in case the thing that I was doing was a gimmick and they can separate themselves from me later on, which was. Which in turn, was smart. Which in turn was smart. But it didn't work out their way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now they try to circle back.

[T-Pain]

I mean, now I'm here with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

So it turned into a safety net that ended up being a mosquito net. You know what I'm saying? It kept them from sucking my blood. You feel what I'm saying? And I saw from the beginning that nobody needed to be around me anyways, and I'm totally fine with that. And the thing is that most of these make their identities kind of reliant on being around a bunch of. I make my identity on. It's just me and my wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And here you go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know.

[T-Pain]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After she. After she see this. I don't know. She might say.

[T-Pain]

She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

By 22 years. I know y' all been together 22 years again.

[T-Pain]

She hollered at me first. She.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She said you were the age. She said you was the one.

[T-Pain]

She bought in. She bought into it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't do it, babe. Let me ask you. What made you sell your catalog?

[T-Pain]

What made me sell my catalog? The. The amount of money that they gave me for my catalog, it literally would have took me a hundred years to make that money. I calculated it, and I was like, why would I sell y' all this? Why would I say. And they. And they were like, look, here's how much you're making per year off of this. We're gonna give you 100 years worth of money right here, all at once.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

Why would you. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think that Was a hard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you discuss it with wifey? She's like, hey, check this out. This company came to me, this venture capitalist or this board recording, whatever.

[T-Pain]

I'll discuss it with my wife.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She said, why you asking me that question? You know damn well you supposed to say yes on the spot.

[T-Pain]

I said, hey, babe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. You come in and say, hey, babe, check this out. I got a deal. I don't know. I might can refuse it. I might not.

[T-Pain]

But talk to the kids today, okay? Kids going to school?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

She said, yeah. I was like, did you. You know, everybody good? Yeah. Like, I gotta talk to you about something that's real important about our future.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[T-Pain]

And then she's like, okay, cool. You know, Cool. I was like, can I close the door? Cause I don't want. I don't, you know, the rest of the house behave.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And something like that.

[T-Pain]

She shake it up like, what the is going on? Like, just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just tell me.

[T-Pain]

So I closed the door. Cuckoo. We're rich. We're rich. We're rich. We don't have as much money for the rest of our lives. We got $100 million. You know who Elon Musk is? Oh, my God. Baby, baby. Mark Zuckerberg just invited us to his. But we rich.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So. So hold up. You tell me. You said, baby, we rich beyond rich. I mean, whatever you thought about when we got together, my career was taking off. Whatever you thought I was gonna be.

[T-Pain]

Here's the thing. Here's what. What made us beyond rich. Here's what the. We rich beyond rich. So Harborview, the people I sold my catalog to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

They didn't just say, we want your catalog. They said, we'll buy your catalog. But also, if you make another hit, we want that, too. If you make more songs, we want them, too. If you make a hit TV series, we want that, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

If you make a football league that just nobody even thought of, we want that, too. If you. If we are scoring movies. If you score a movie, we want that, too. So it's not just at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So basically, whatever you do that you.

[T-Pain]

Could possibly monetize, it's not at. Just what they got. So I can. I sold them. What? I sold them. But also, if I. If. I'd say this one's doing pretty good, too. They like, we want that too. Here's another.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dale.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? So it's a partnership now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

It's not. And that's a. That's the thing that Harvey View does. Like, when they go in, when they go in with somebody. They don't go in, like, give us your shit. You're our Michael Jackson and that's it. Look, we want to go into a partnership with you. So if you decide. If I decide that club husband is doing good enough. How much y' all give me for the Club Husband? Now you can put it anywhere you want to. Now you can put it on movies and you can make the rest of the money off of it. But the money it would have taken me a hundred years to make off a club Husband, you get down. Even if it's 20x, that's 20 years. The. The money it would take me to. The. The time it would take me to make 20 years worth of money off a club husband. I can get a 20x from them. The time it would take me to just sell a beat or, or dubstep. If I. If I make an intro to. To your show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and they say you want to do that?

[T-Pain]

We want the rights to that. Take it. How much money is Shannon Sharp's show gonna make for the next 20 years? How much stake do I have in that from the intro? Boom. Give me that money. So it's, it's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was. In other words, it was a no brainer. What was the first. Okay, you got this money, you wealthy beyond even when you dreamed at night. And my brother used to tell us, tell me all the time. He said, a dream is a gift you give to yourself. So you dreaming at night. What's the first thing you bought when you got this money? You let. Baby, what you want, baby, whatever you want.

[T-Pain]

Denny's house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's not, it's not.

[T-Pain]

It's not. No, no, no. So about a 50,000 square foot building for all my businesses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, so I was gonna say 50,000 square foot. I thought you was about to see a house. I said, you high?

[T-Pain]

No, no, no, no. 50,000 square foot building for all my businesses.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

I bought a plane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A plane?

[T-Pain]

Yeah, a plane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, big bowler.

[T-Pain]

What the. What in God's name would you do with that money? Get two lawnmowers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would. I probably would buy timeshares in a plane. I don't know if want.

[T-Pain]

Okay, yeah, no, I would abruptly buy two lawnmowers and a Ferrari.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. So what, what, what. What did you. Okay, this what you bought. You bought a building? You bought a, a, A plane? What did she want for a sale?

[T-Pain]

Some black shirts? She want this? My wife is the best, bro. Like, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She don't want anything.

[T-Pain]

I'd be. I'd literally try to buy her and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And she seems so down to earth, you know?

[T-Pain]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if she's down to earth or what.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mean you don't know she died. You've been with her for damn near 25.

[T-Pain]

See you. Do you see the she picked like this? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that wasn't a smart choice. Good job. You know what I'm saying? I'd be trying to buy her all the time. I don't bought her trucks and she's like a truck. Trucks like trucks. And she's like, all right, let's go. Is this like I'm just going to ride with you everywhere you go? I'm not going to drive them like, okay, thank you.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you. You started off DJing at the age of 14, probably making what, 50, $100 a night? DJing?

[T-Pain]

200 money getting paid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you do it for free.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, I was carrying crates, okay? At 14, 15, I was carrying crates because keep in mind, I couldn't go into clubs unless I had a job, right? So I was carrying crates for DJs and I was hearing the reason that I can make the songs the way that I make is because I was hearing the songs that DJs were playing from the crates that I was carrying, right? And I was like, man, people really like these parts of songs. What the is making people go so crazy. Okay? So every night I would literally write down like, all right, the high hat's gone from this song. Yeah, all right. They like this part. Okay. There's no kick on this part. All right, well, he just said something real Loud on this part. I don't know what to say, like. And so I, like, started studying why people like parts of songs that they like. And then I went back in my career and I was like, I think I'm gonna try to make a song. Damn. And I'm gonna incorporate all these things that people have seemingly been liking from these things that I've been seeing. So kind of just like, yeah, it's making a song from a DJ's perspective.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is because you know what hit, you know what's in it. Like, you said, you're.

[T-Pain]

I know it hit. I know it hits. I know what, what, like, you know an 808 hits on this part. And people love that. There's no 808 on this part. And people scream this at the top of their lungs. There's no. There's no hi hat on this part. There's no snare on this part. Boom, boom, boom. So I started incorporating those things into my songs. And it's like, I think I know how to make a song. Yeah, I tried one and boom. Yeah, just have it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause early in your career, you bought a Bugatti 1.7 million. You bought a chain. 400,000 said big ass chain. Now you got little ass chain. Now you say, hey, Frank, Richard Mill from Teemu.

[T-Pain]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. When I bought that Bugatti, that was the last bit of my money. And I had no idea. I had no idea.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't know that was the last bit of your money or you had no idea that?

[T-Pain]

I had no idea that was the last bit of my money. When I bought that Bugatti, I demanded that my accountants send the money for their Bugatti. And when I got it, they were like, hey, so we may have to sell your house. I'm like, what are you talking about? I have a Bugatti? And they were like, yeah, that was what we were going to use to pay for the rest of your house. I'm like, my house is paid for? You're like, yeah, not anymore. So we had to take out something for your thing, and then we bought the Bugatti. So then the Bugatti disappeared and shit like that. But it was never, like, I was never secure because I never knew what the hell was going on with my finances. I mean, now very, very, very, very close to my finances. And I know every dollar that goes out. Like, I'm telling you, if somebody tries to send $4 from one of my accounts, I get an alert on my phone. You Know what I mean? Like, I stay very close to my finances and shit like that, but back then, I had no idea what was happening. I had no idea I had so much money that it was just like, why would I care?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[T-Pain]

I don't care who steals from me. I should still have enough. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But that's what was happening. People were actually stealing.

[T-Pain]

Oh, yeah, they were actually stealing. They were actually stealing. But also, I was investing in weird stuff. My. My granddad said he had a. And it sounds stupid now. My granddad said he had an idea. We gonna sell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What the hell you selling?

[T-Pain]

You know how. You know how sag their drawers all the time? Yeah, we gonna sell pants with the drawers already sagged. You gonna sell pans with the draws hanging out of them already? And then the waistband of the draws is the actual waistband of the pants. Absolutely. How much money you need? That sounds amazing. You know what? Spend $150,000 on that. I didn't have it, but I gave it to him. Guess what? You can pull it up right now. Balenciaga is literally selling pants with draws hanging out the. We got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We copyright. Dude, you got a patent?

[T-Pain]

Hell no, man. He never did it. He never made them. He never did it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

But I was supposed. I was supposed to just know that that was going to happen. But right now, I swear to God, Balenciaga is selling pants withdrawals as research department.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We have it.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, yeah, pull it up. That's what that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you on Twitch.

[T-Pain]

Ooh, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, hey, bro, are you more active on Twitch than making music? I mean, so how does Twitch.

[T-Pain]

I'm making music on Twitch. I'm making all my music on Twitch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So people can see it in real time.

[T-Pain]

In real time. I'm literally everything that I do now, every single that I release, everything that happens right now, I can. You can clock it from me making the first sound to putting it out. Like, all the way from me making the first sound of the beat, making the whole beat, recording the vocals and then putting it out. I can show you the entire process on Twitch. And it's been not only a liberating thing for me, but it's turned into an eye opener to the viewers for other artists because they like, y' all ain't doing this. Y' all ain't doing the process, like pain. You know what I'm saying? So it's. It's. It's not a. It's not a flex, but it's like if your favorite artist ain't doing the whole process Then y' all watching this for, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's. It's turned into a. I'll look. You can see. You can literally watch this song develop from the first sound of the beat to the release of the song. And that, that can't. There's no other place that you can watch that happen within a week span, you know what I'm saying? So within seven days, you can see this thing happened. I will stream every part of me making this and I have, I have like a. A two step process. Like, I got a drunk T pain and sober T pain. So drunk T pain to come in and start the beat, make the song and shit like that. And then sober T pain to come in the next day and like, what this do last night? I don't remember none of that shit. And then I fix it and then I finish it to where the song can come out, right? So it's like you get these different aspects of how my, how my process works. And there's, there's like, come jump, come to my house. And like, I don't want people to see me recording my verse, right? And it's like, you don't even want like, damn, bro, we're just, we're just writing verses and just recording. They like, nah, I don't want it. I'm showing you start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You showing everything.

[T-Pain]

I just, I have to, because I don't have. And a big part of it is I don't have a hidden aspect right to my process.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

Because a lot of that come up, come to the crib, they like, they got these other writers or they got these other producers and they got people, they got secret that come in on the side and do all this extra. I'm like, bro, it's been. It's literally me in the studio.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What they see on Twitch is what it actually happened.

[T-Pain]

Exactly. What it is is me in the studio by myself the whole time doing this. And you know, sometimes my wife will come in, she'll write the shit with me, but you know, my kids are coming in that right shit with me. But it's like, it ain't no secret. It ain't no extra writers coming in. Ain't no extra coming off the street like that. Like, it ain't never going to be that. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, that's my favorite part of the shit. The fun part is getting drunk as shit one night, coming in the next morning and still streaming. Like, let me see what this did. But me. So like, let me see what he did. And I hear it and I'm like, oh shit, that nigga had a little idea last night. Let me see what's going on. And then I, and then I finished that idea and then the song actually comes out. But it's, but you can see that it's me the entire time, right? So it's, it's not only liberating, man, it actually shows people that not everything is fake, you know, Ever. You know, I don't know how you felt, but ever since like Milli Vanilli, everybody been like, everything's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially not with AI.

[T-Pain]

Everything's fake. Especially now with AI, Everything's fake.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything's AI.

[T-Pain]

Everything's fake. This nigga ain't do that. I don't believe it. Even if I see you do it, I don't believe it's not a real thing. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So a couple of years ago Pain.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Had you on Nightcap and I asked. I said pain. I said payne, with your voice, you can really, really effing sing. I don't know if there's a rapper dead or alive that can match vocals with you. I say why you use auto tunes?

[T-Pain]

It literally just set me apart. It was just something that set me apart. Do you know there's not a lot of people in this world that have heard Roger Troutman's actual singing voice?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's the first one, Computer Love can sing.

[T-Pain]

That boy can sing his ass off. But. But he did that to set himself apart. Because if you're just gonna sing, just gonna be another singer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Like, why. Why put yourself in that category when you have the opportunity to set yourself apart from everybody? And, you know, it comes with this. It comes with its stimulations, and it comes with its.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Won't you do a pivot? Won't you do. Okay, I did.

[T-Pain]

I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, yeah. No, I'm talking about now. Really right now. Like, Beyonce. Beyonce had her genre. She said, you know what? Country. What I'm gonna do and put an album out. Okay. You rap? Not do it. R B.

[T-Pain]

Well, let's keep in mind that country's always been a part of Beyonce's repertoire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? Like, Beyonce's always been able to do country. You know, all her harmonies and all the things that Destiny's Child did and things like that. That's always been country music.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

That's always been blues. And country music came from blues, and blues came from country. And, you know, everybody can, you know, have their allegations about that. But this has always been a thing. It's about tempo, it's about rhythmic vocals and things like that that made it, quote, unquote, country. But it's always been that, and that's something that we are always able to do. Rhythm and blues.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Is what R and B is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Blues.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Blues is country.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

Country is like, we've always been in this space. My mama done told me. We call that blues. But that's where country came from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[T-Pain]

So we can do that. That's always been ours, you know what I'm saying? So we just kind of went back to our roots on that. And Beyonce. Beyonce was always the queen of that. So it's never gonna be a thing to where it's like a pivot for us. It's just. Just kind of doing what we were already doing. You know what I mean? Like, when I did On Top of the Covers, when I did my cover album, and I was singing. Singing. Singing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah. See you. Did people really know you could sing like that before they heard you do all the covers?

[T-Pain]

Not at all. Not at all. I don't think so. There was a core audience that had a suspicion, but I never, like, really felt like I needed to prove anything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

So when I. When I went into that. When I went into that on Top of the covers and I did the. When I did the. The Sun Rose in la, it was Kind of a. It was. I. I didn't prove a point, but it was just like a. See, it was like a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I can really sing.

[T-Pain]

It was like a Right, like. You know what I'm saying? It was kind of like that. But it wasn't like, I'm here to prove a point kind of thing. It's just like, let's get together for a night of good vibes, and I'm gonna do the thing that we all know that we gonna do. And we sold out three nights in two minutes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? So it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that something you're looking to do again?

[T-Pain]

I do wanna do a part two of it. I do wanna do a part two of it. I'm about to start taking a poll online of, like, what songs I should do, because I don't wa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want the audience to pick them?

[T-Pain]

Yeah, because the first. The first version of it was songs that, like, meant a lot to my heart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And now I want to know what people think that I should be kind of, you know, kind of taking a stab at who.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who haven't you worked with that you would like to do something with Andre 3000? Good luck with that one.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. I would literally learn how to play a woodwind to work with this nigga. I swear to God. I bought a flute and a. And a. I bought a saxophone from Teemu. Almost got it. I almost got it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If hold. If, if, if, if. Jay came to you and said, hey, bro, halftime show.

[T-Pain]

Nah, that's too much pressure. It's too much pressure. That's a. That's. Because you gotta think not. It's a great honor. It would be a amazing honor. But you gotta think about me trying to squeeze 20 years of absolute hit records in 15 in 15 minutes. You can't do it. I'm just. I'm just not. I'm not gonna be the one that be. Remember when. Just when Justin Timberlake did it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And that whole 15 minutes was like, oh, shit. I forgot about that. Oh, shit. What? That was his. Oh, God damn, Pharrell. God. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want the head snatch of. Damn, I forgot he did all that shit. Just let me live that out. Also, I don't own that shit anymore. So just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[T-Pain]

I sold it. So have it. Do you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You also. We're gonna get you out of here a few more. You said that you stop. You write songs, but you were writing songs for people that their fan Base didn't know you were actually writing and was getting upset. You said, you know what? Just go and give me the bread. Y' all gotta put me on there.

[T-Pain]

Yeah. I had to learn how to stop wanting to be in front of the camera.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

I had to learn how to get the hell behind the camera and just. All right. Yeah. I don't have to like me, but I did help your favorite artist. I did write this country song. I did write this shit. But, you know, there was a time where people would look at those. Those booklets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

When you get an album.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

Snatch that thing out the CD cover.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who wrote. Yeah.

[T-Pain]

You look at those things and they don't. They don't have those anymore. So I had to learn to be like, I don't need that credit. I don't need you to know. It's obviously there. But I don't need everybody to have that knowledge.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[T-Pain]

Is. My family's taken care of. My wife's still loving my kids don't hate me. We good. I don't need anybody else to know exactly what I'm doing all the time. And that's, you know, that's the thing that we all gotta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Any more free boots? Any more free beats, hooks, features?

[T-Pain]

All the time, you still do. All the time. All the time. Free beats, hooks, features. I still do what we call T mixes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[T-Pain]

T mix is always free because it has to be a song that I really, really, really, really like. And that's how you get a free T Pain feature. You make a song that I really like. I'll do a verse to it and just put it out, and you can do whatever you want to it. It's not like a. You know, it's not like a premeditated thing. You don't know what's happening, Things like that. I'm doing a folded remix.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

The folded T mixes. I mean, Kalani's always been. She's already asking me to do something on her album, but I'm like, I was already doing it.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Right.

[T-Pain]

You know? But she was like, oh, yeah, just do that then. Okay, cool. You know, she added up the song ready for me, and I can. I can still do that song. But I was like, hey, I'm about to do a fold. It. Just want to let you know, as soon as I get off this. As soon as I get off this road and as soon as I know exactly what I'm about to do for the next two weeks, I got you. I'm about to do that folded remix, but also I'M gonna do the thing that you asked me to do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Masked Singer. How did you.

[T-Pain]

How did they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did they get you to do that? And how do you sing? And how do you sing in that damn big ass costume?

[T-Pain]

I gotta tell you, man, I tried to cancel the Masked Singer three days before I started it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[T-Pain]

Yeah, no, it was bad. It was bad because when I. When I actually got a hold, like a mental hold of what it was, I was like, oh, this is stupid as hell. I don't do this. And then I was like, yo, I'm good on this. I don't want to do this anymore. And they're like, what? What's wrong? And I was like, you telling me if they can figure out who's in the costume and they lose, I'm going to lose immediately. Everybody knows exactly what my voice sounds like. I don't know what it sounds like, but apparently I'm a mix between CeeLo and Robin Thicke. I don't know how that works, but I'm like, if anybody can hear my voice, then I lose. They're like, no, if they figure out who you are, but they can't prove it, then you can keep going. And I'm like, oh, I get it. Can I drink? And they were like, yes, you can drink. I was like, okay, okay, I can do it. And I don't know, you can probably pull it up now, but every night that I performed in that costume, I had to wear the pants. I was the only person that had pants. And then the rest of my costume would just engulf my body.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[T-Pain]

Everybody else was an actual mask.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[T-Pain]

And just clothes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? So it was like I was the only person that was wearing an actual costume the entire time. So every night you can see the eye fog the up, and I couldn't see shit. So every night I was performing blind and I couldn't see shit. That one. That one last night that actually won me the whole thing. I had a microphone in my hand. I had a microphone in my actual hand outside of the costume. And they wanted me to put the microphone up to the mouth of the thing. And I'm like, I can't do that. We. I actually need. I need somehow maybe I have a fake hand outside and then I have a mic in here because I'm about to perform. Stay With Me by Sam Smith, right? And they're like, we. We can't do that. That's gonna look stupid as hell. You're gonna have a. Just a. Just an arm out here with a microphone in it. And I'm like, okay, well, what's the best I can do? And, like, we can put a microphone in your hand on a half a stand, put it up to your mouth, but we can also have a microphone right here on your face.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Madonna mic.

[T-Pain]

I breathe too much for that. And they're like, well, you got to control your breathing, and that's the only way we can do it. And that. That is literally what won me the whole thing. Because I was like, I'll hold my breath in between these lines in order to get this right. And I literally was holding my breath that whole night because you can hear me, like, in between the. Because I was so hot in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[T-Pain]

And I had fans in there in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In the costume.

[T-Pain]

In the costume. But you can hear the fans in the mic, so they had to cut them off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[T-Pain]

In order for the mic to be clean on my face, and they taped it to my sideburns and my lips, and I'm like, okay, I'm. Y' all are gonna make me lose this thing. And I was like, you know what? I'm just lock in. Here we go. And then I just sang it without taking a breath for that whole take, and that's what won me the whole thing. I didn't take one breath that whole time. I was so scared. I didn't take one breath that entire time that I was singing. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna get you out of here on this. What is T Pain most proud of? What is your grandest accomplishment?

[T-Pain]

T Pain's most. T Pain's most grandest accomplishment, honestly. And I. You know, I say it in interviews, and I've said it in this interview, and I. I will keep saying it. My wife loved me, and my kids don't hate me, because I know so many that that is not the case.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[T-Pain]

I know so many people and so many guys that have kids and have a wife that hates them that they. They. You know, they call it the. The old ball and chain. My wife don't do that to me. My wife, you know, she. She comes on the road with me, I never. I never go anywhere without her. My kids don't hate me. My kids love everything that I do. I talk to my kids like we best friends, you know? Everything that I do, my wife and kids are a part of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[T-Pain]

That is. That is. That is such an accomplishment for a black man that it's. It's kind of like a flex. It's damn near like an outfit it's just like, you know, when his manager, when they, like, you look like that, take care of your kids. Old ass like, damn. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, and my wife loved me too.

[T-Pain]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I bet your wife love you a ass. Ho ass like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what love feel like? Ho ass. Like, damn. Like, it's an insult now. Because we. We don't. We. We sometimes we don't feel like we deserve the shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[T-Pain]

And we really do. We really do. And to have somebody there that actually with us and to have your kids, you know, and to grow up with your kids. Yeah, it's awesome to, you know, to have that stereotype of father, you know, black, fatherless kids and shit like that. Like, to be able to grow with your kids and to have a wife that loves you, man, that is. I think that's. I mean, a can really be like T Pain. Your mama a hoe. Yeah, my wife love me, though. Like. You know what I mean? Like, that's T Pain. Your daddy ain't never love you. I mean, my kids do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My kids love me, though.

[T-Pain]

You know what I mean? So it's like, what. What can hurt you when nothing can? You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[T-Pain]

Like, that's the. It's such a flex. It's such a. It's such a. A pedestal in life to where, Man, y' all can't do nothing to me. I can literally go broke tomorrow. I can lose all my money tomorrow. But I'm still rich as because my kids and my wife love me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, that is a flex. Y' all make sure y' all go stream club husband. Bro, when you come, when you do, when you do, when you do that cover again, when you have that one, two, three nights. If it's somewhere close, bro, I'm coming.

[T-Pain]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause, bro, you got some vocals. Like I said, look, rap, we can go who run what. But ain't no rapper dead or alive can match this man's voice.

[T-Pain]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

T Pain, ladies and gentlemen, gang life.

[T-Pain]

Hell yeah. All my life Been grinding all my.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[T-Pain]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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