Club Shay Shay - Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford Part 2

Summary

Summary of "Club Shay Shay - Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford Part 2"

Introduction

In this compelling episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe sits down with renowned boxer Terence "Bud" Crawford for an in-depth conversation. As a three-time Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Sharpe brings his unique perspective to explore Crawford’s journey, the dynamics of the boxing industry, personal challenges, and future aspirations.

Boxing Industry Insights

Challenges with Promoters and Opportunities for Fighters

The discussion kicks off with Shannon addressing the reluctance of veteran fighters to provide opportunities to emerging talent. Crawford shares his perspective on the business side of boxing, emphasizing that it's not about generosity but rather about business risks and financial incentives.

[02:14] Terence Crawford: "It's a business. Everybody know what we're doing it for."

Crawford likens promoters to pit bulls, highlighting how they control fighters' careers and often cut ties with them after losses, leaving fighters without leverage or support.

[03:02] Terence Crawford: "When you lose, the promoters don't want nothing to deal with you."

Historical Comparisons and Modern Boxing Dynamics

Shannon draws parallels between the dominant heavyweight eras of the '70s and today, questioning why fighters now seem less willing to take risks in the ring despite lucrative opportunities.

[05:27] Terence Crawford: "It's all about money."

Crawford discusses how the modern emphasis on maintaining undefeated records, as seen with fighters like Floyd Mayweather, affects the willingness of promoters and fighters to engage in challenging matchups.

[05:38] Terence Crawford: "A lot of people, they give him credit now, but they didn't give him credit when he was active."

Terence Crawford’s Relationship with Floyd Mayweather

Crawford offers his insights into Floyd Mayweather's defensive mastery, praising his instincts and comparing his defensive skills favorably against other boxing legends like Sugar Ray Leonard.

[08:23] Terence Crawford: "His defense and his instincts. I think Floyd had the best defense in boxing history."

Shannon and Terence delve into how society's perception of fighters has evolved, especially with undefeated records becoming a significant factor in a boxer's legacy.

[09:30] Terence Crawford: "A lot of people, they see it, and they can't say that."

Potential Fight with Canelo Alvarez

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around the highly anticipated potential fight between Terence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez. Both discuss the physical match-up, financial implications, and the legacy such a fight could cement for Crawford.

[17:15] Terence Crawford: "I'm just sizing myself up to Canelo right in my head. He’s five seven, I’m five eight, I got a 74-inch reach... it matches up."

Shannon questions whether the anticipated payday will sustain Crawford’s motivation, comparing it to Floyd Mayweather’s lucrative but equally driven career.

[20:52] Shannon Sharpe: "I mean, I'm trying to figure. Help me out on this."

Crawford remains cautiously optimistic about the fight’s financial success despite modern challenges like piracy.

[19:35] Terence Crawford: "But it's different times that we live in. When you look at today's time, you got so much piracy... it's hard."

Personal Life and Family

Crawford opens up about his personal life, discussing his relationship with his partner and their six children. He emphasizes the importance of family support and his desire to build generational wealth.

[76:14] Terence Crawford: "She supportive with my kids and things like that. She handling my kids and it's not hard."

Shannon probes into the complexities of having children with multiple partners, to which Crawford responds with a focus on ensuring his children are well-supported regardless of circumstances.

[54:37] Terence Crawford: "So the first one didn't... the second one didn't... but I'm cool. I'm good."

Training, Preparation, and Mindset

The conversation shifts to Crawford’s training regimen and mental preparation for fights. He discusses sparring with larger fighters to prepare for potential tough match-ups and shares his philosophies on maintaining peak performance.

[23:46] Terence Crawford: "Man, listen, I don't spar people my size. Everybody I spar is bigger than me."

Crawford also touches upon his views on the evolution of boxing techniques and the importance of adapting to different fighting styles.

[98:34] Terence Crawford: "Boxers back in the days was way tougher than the boxers of today... but I think our skills have evolved more than theirs."

Money, Investments, and Legacy

Crawford provides his take on money, viewing it as a tool for comfort and security rather than the source of happiness. He discusses his investments in real estate and businesses aimed at safeguarding his family’s future.

[55:54] Terence Crawford: "So I just always told myself if something ever was to happen to me, my kids gonna be straight with or without me."

Shannon and Terence debate the impact of financial success on personal motivations and happiness, with Crawford highlighting the balance between financial security and personal fulfillment.

[56:00] Terence Crawford: "The crazy thing is what money do for you, but make you comfortable. It don't make you happy."

Public Perception and Social Media Criticism

Crawford expresses frustration over social media criticism, particularly when maintaining an undefeated record invites scrutiny and negativity from fans who may not understand the complexities of his journey.

[10:16] Terence Crawford: "I see so many people on social media say they don't like me, but don't have a reason."

Future Aspirations and Endorsements

Looking ahead, Crawford discusses his ambitions to fight top-tier opponents like Canelo and compares himself to boxing legends, asserting his capability to compete with the greats.

[26:26] Terence Crawford: "I'ma say this, and I'm not just saying it. Terence Crawford could have competed with all those guys, all of them."

Shannon highlights Crawford’s accolades and the historical significance of his achievements, while Crawford remains focused on future goals.

[85:00] Stephen A. Smith: "You can overcome even more in the future."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with Shannon and Terence reflecting on the balance between professional ambition and personal life. Crawford reaffirms his commitment to his family and his relentless drive to succeed in boxing, setting the stage for his impending fights and future legacy.

[87:47] Terence Crawford: "You can overcome even more in the future."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [02:14] Terence Crawford: "It's a business. Everybody know what we're doing it for."
• [05:38] Terence Crawford: "A lot of people, they give him credit now, but they didn't give him credit when he was active."
• [08:23] Terence Crawford: "His defense and his instincts. I think Floyd had the best defense in boxing history."
• [17:15] Terence Crawford: "I'm just sizing myself up to Canelo right in my head..."
• [55:54] Terence Crawford: "So I just always told myself if something ever was to happen to me, my kids gonna be straight with or without me."
• [10:16] Terence Crawford: "I see so many people on social media say they don't like me, but don't have a reason."
• [26:26] Terence Crawford: "I'ma say this, and I'm not just saying it. Terence Crawford could have competed with all those guys, all of them."
• [85:00] Stephen A. Smith: "You can overcome even more in the future."
• [87:47] Terence Crawford: "You can overcome even more in the future."

Conclusion

This episode of Club Shay Shay provides listeners with a profound understanding of Terence Crawford's mindset, the challenges within the boxing industry, and his dedication to both his craft and family. Shannon Sharpe facilitates a candid and insightful dialogue, revealing the layers behind Crawford's success and his relentless pursuit of greatness in the ring.

Transcript

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Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Why don't you think older vet great fighters want to give these young and up and comers an opportunity?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't think it's that they want to give them, it's just the opportunity. You know they pay You a lot of money probably for taking the risk, you know, and some older fighters want to test, test theyself and see if they still got it. And it's, and it's a business. Everybody know what, what we doing it for. We like pit bulls. You know, you see, you see a pit bull, you, you, they got their ring, they got, they judge and, you know, they got the crowd around them to send them out there to kill each other. That's what, that's the same way with us, you know, Then this pit bull lose or they kick him out, I can't use you no more, see, you know, and the promoters, it's the same way. When you lose, the promoters don't want nothing to deal with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That, you know what, that's where I was going. Because it seemed, if you, you remember, if you go back and look at the 70s, there were heavyweights dominated. They fought Ali fought Frazier, and Norton fought this one, and Foreman fought that one, and Shavers and so forth and so on. And then you had the, and you had the four Kings and they fought. Why they don't want to. I mean, it's money. You can make money.

[Terence Crawford]

It's all about money. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, when you look at the politics, they all say, oh, well, this promoter got these fighters, this promoter got these fighters. I don't want to share it with you. You don't want to share with me. So I'm in house all these fighters. Unless some drastic amount of money can come and then we can both be successful on, on this, on this fight, right? But I don't want to give you leverage in your fighter taking my, my fighter's title. Now, I don't have no, no, no title.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't have no leverage now.

[Terence Crawford]

So if I have six welterweight contenders like PBC had, and you got two. Well, yeah, two, because Manny Pacquiao left our rank and went to pbc. You got two. Jeff Horn and Terence Crawford. I fight Jeff Horn, they freeze me out. They fight each other while I'm just sitting there. Hey, man, I want to fight him. Nah, nah, nah, you on the wrong side of the street.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Terence Crawford]

I want to fight him. Nah, you on the wrong side of the street. Where the fuck did the wrong side of the street come in to play in the sport of boxing? You know, that's how it goes. But then when, you know, it makes sense, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, then the two parties can come together and make it happen. Because it's enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because so much money is involved because so. Because I was looking at it like this, and it seemed like Floyd, and I love Floyd, but it seemed like everybody's afraid to have that O, to have a one or two where the O used to be. Because so now. And like you said, like, bro, hey, the promoters don't want you anymore. And maybe people don't think you is as good as you once was if you don't have that. Don't have that unblemished mark. But it didn't used to be like that. Terrance Ali lost, Sugar Ray lost, Hagler lost, Hearns lost. These guys lost. When did the O become the end? All be all?

[Terence Crawford]

I think Mayweather, you know, and how he made it big to the public, like 47 and tried 47, had failed, and then it got all the way to 50 and it's like, you know, break Marciano's record. Now retired unblemished. Andre Ward unblemished, you know, Joe Cow go Zagy unblemished, you know, and it's like when people look at him, they be like, man, that dude never lost before. You know, people can't say that. You know, a lot of people can't say that. When you look at, like, ali, Roy Jones Jr. You know, all the greats back in the day, they lost. Yes, but that's something that Joe Calzaghe, Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather, they can say, I never lost, right? So now when the kids looking up to them, they say, man, I want to be like, damn, I don't want to lose. I don't want to lose. Because now society has shaped things to where if a fighter lose, they talk so bad about, oh, he's a bum. I knew he was overrated. Y'all hyped him up and now they gotta hear it. But back in the day, they didn't have social media, you know what I mean? So all that wasn't in their face, but now it's in their face. They see it, they hear it, and it's like, you know, who want to go through that? So fighters are like, man, they picking and choosing, man, I don't want to fight him. Because, you know, there's a chance unless the money sold, right? You know, so it plays a big factor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I take Floyd Mayweather in his absolute prime and I take Manny Pacquiao out in his absolute prime, Floyd Mayweather, Floyd still beats him.

[Terence Crawford]

Floyd beat everybody.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't believe there's. There is a guy at 140, 147 in the history of boxing that could have beat Floyd in his prime.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. But it'd be tough. Every tough. Floyd, Floyd, man, that boy, man. That's the goat. Man, that boy bad, man, that boy bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What makes it. I mean, what. Because. And I told people this. I said, look. Look at Floyd. I said, floyd, it's not that he trains. I mean, it's his life. And from the very beginning, he's like, I want to be the best. And I look at Floyd. Floyd is not a naturally big man. So Floyd, like you, to get down to 147, you got to drop 20 pounds, 25 pounds.

[Terence Crawford]

No, he walked around at his weight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He had 147. He walked around at 150.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So he losing three pounds. Floyd going to camp for like, two weeks, and he done made his weight. But what makes Floyd the best so unique? Something that we have not seen before.

[Terence Crawford]

His defense and his instincts. I think Floyd had the best defense in boxing history.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Better than Sweet Pea?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause, you know, Sweet P has some defense, but Sweet Spee had defense, but he ain't had offense like Floyd.

[Terence Crawford]

I look at. I say he got more defense than Sweet Pee. He got hit less.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, Sweet Pee had more head movement, so he was. Sweet Pee was better at slipping punches, making you miss, Right? But Floyd on defense, like catch, bam, bam, bam, bam.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, Floyd, hands down, then making you pay, catching, Connor, catching, slipping. You know what I mean? Like hitting you with shots that you don't see. Like, that's. That's where Floyd master, you know, hit and I get hit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you look at the people that he beat. I mean, people are all. He just go back and look at those world champions from the Cotos and the Pacquiao, the Ricky Hattons, the Arturo Gotti's. I mean, like, 20 plus world champs. I ain't talking about. No, they legit world champs.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. And he beat them all, and he was calling for them all in a prime, you know, So. I don't know, man. A lot of people, they give him credit now, but they didn't give him credit when he was active. It's kind of like. It's kind of like Muhammad Ali. Yeah, they hated him when he was active. They loved him when he retired and when he got a loss. They hated Tyson when Tyson was active. But once he got a loss and he retired, then they loved him. You know, everybody want to see you lose because they want you to feel like you more human. They don't want you to be you Know, superior to other fighters, especially fighters that they like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, so they just like, man, I don't like that guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

I see so many people on social media say they don't like me, but don't have a reason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't like Crawford, but I hope him and Canelo have a good fight. Okay. What is there not to like about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are they. Maybe you run into the same thing. Floyd, I believe people, a lot of people started watching Floyd fights to see him lose. Do you think people tuned in to watch you lose, to see you lose?

[Terence Crawford]

Definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you don't care. As long as they buy that pay per view, you good.

[Terence Crawford]

Hey, I don't care what you think about me. I don't care what you say about me. You not in the position that I'm in to even be on the same level of me, you know? And I don't say that in a cocky way. I say that in an honest way. Like people at a basketball game, you talking stuff to LeBron James and you can't do half of what LeBron James you talking stuff about, you know, Aaron Rodgers and you can't throw a 30 yard football. You know, we criticize athletes, but we can't do it for stuff that we can't even do. And it's just like, man, come on now, man, you come up in here, get punched up in the head, or you try to go run a go across the middle, go across the middle while Brit Farr Throw a 90 mile football, that'll break your fingers and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lynch.

[Terence Crawford]

About to come and take your head off. Right. You know, so you gotta brace. Cause you about to get hit the ball going fast and you expect me to catch it every single time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, people don't understand the things that we do and the things that we take our body through to entertain y'all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, but y'all disrespect us like we not human. So then when we lash out on one of y'all, y'all think, oh, everybody like, oh, you supposed to be professional. But we humans, end of the day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Floyd paid you the ultimate compliment. He says Terence Crawford is the best pound for pound fighter fighting right now. What's your, your relationship like with, with Floyd?

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, we got a good relationship. I'm cool with Floyd. You know, Florida just randomly called me, you know, ask me how my family doing, ask me how I'm doing, and don't even check on. I don't even talk about boxing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Terence Crawford]

It just. I want nothing. I was just checking up on you, champ. You know, seeing how you doing and, you know, making sure everybody good and things like that and. All right, I talk to you later.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, things like that, that mean more to me than calling me. Hey, man, what's up with boxing? You know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm. I was at this fight. I told you this. I was at the fight that you fought Spence, and I'm sure you heard it, man. Spence. Has Spence not got in that car accident, Bud, man, you know, you fought that man three, man. You fought that man three years too late. You'd have caught him before that. Before that accident. I don't know. Bud, how often have you heard that, man?

[Terence Crawford]

I think I said everything that everybody was going to say before they even said it. I think they just looked at the interviews and the altercation that me and Spence had, right? And just copied and pasted right, you know, I hear a lot, you know, but I was already prepared for it, you know, I was prepared, what, three, four years before you had, you know, and that's something that I train my mind to, preparing for it because I knew what it was going to be. I said, spence is a great fighter. I'm a fan of Spence. I always been a fan of Spence. I watched him in a. In a. In the amateurs. I rooted for him, you know, when he represented United States. I call him on the phone, check on him. I'm a fan of Spans. The people, the urban community, our own people, try to turn us against each other and make it to a point where nobody likes each other. Why can't you like me and like him? Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I like Bud, that don't mean I hate Earl, right? If I like Earl, that don't mean I hate Bud, right? But sometimes it seems to be, now.

[Terence Crawford]

If I like something, I can't like him, right? But it's only like that in our community. You know, when you look at the Mexican community, they support each other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, bro, they ride hard for them.

[Terence Crawford]

When you got two Mexicans fighting each.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Other, man, Mexican community win, they gonna celebrate.

[Terence Crawford]

Whoever they gonna win, they are, you know they gonna win. When you see us fight each other, it's not like that, you know, And I just always felt like we our own downfall, you know, Blacks, Mexicans rule boxing from the beginning. Beginning, you know, but we gotta do better with supporting each other, and we gotta do better. Another thing we gotta do better with is supporting the ladies, you know, the women fighters. Yeah, the women fighters. You know, you got a lot of women Fighters that's doing the same thing that we doing, going through the same thing that we go through, that's putting on hell of a show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

But we don't support them, you know, we don't. You'll see them come to all our fights supporting us, bigging us up. But everybody want them girls fights, but some of them girls fights be more exciting than our fights, you know. So I just think that we need to just as a boxing community, we need to just support each other more. And like you said, if a person lose, it's not the end of the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, pick back up, you know, some back in the days, you may won that day, he may come back and beat you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Correct.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Terence Crawford]

So you just gotta, you know, give him his just due and you know, give them the encouragement that it's not over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

Instead of beating nobody down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How long have you had this Canelo fight in your head?

[Terence Crawford]

Man, I've been thinking about Canelo for.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like.

[Terence Crawford]

A year now. Probably a little bit at the floor. I mean after Spence, a little bit after Spence, when they start talking about Spence and Canelo, I started thinking like, man, Canelo too big for Spence, like he gonna clean his fence. But then I started looking at it. I'm like, canelo not that big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, he's a smaller fighter that's fighting in a bigger division. So I started just sizing myself up to Canelo right In my head, he's five seven, I'm five eight, I got a 74 inch reach, reach. He got like a 60 something, you know, he's wider than me, but that's it. So I'm like, it match up, it matches up, I can do that fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you ever think he would accept it or you just going to put enough pressure on him, you going to keep putting it out there and have people put it out there, say, hey, the only fight that makes sense for Bud is Canelo. The only fight that makes sense for Canelo, if he want to fight somebody and he want a super, super payday, Bud Crawford is it for sure.

[Terence Crawford]

There's no fighter out right now that's bigger than Crawford. Canelo, no fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree, I agree.

[Terence Crawford]

So a lot of people, I know a lot of people say, oh well, Benavidez, Benavidez, everybody want him to fight Benavidez and that's a great fight and that's a damn good fight, you know, but given the circumstances of black versus Mexican and the history, I've always did bigger numbers than anything you know, besides Manny Pacquiao, Floyd and Floyd, you know, Conor McGregor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, yeah, you believe these numbers will be comparable to that? There are projection that this fight is going to do somewhere between 600 and 700 or 3/4 of a billion. Floyd right now has the record. He and Pacquiao did 600 million in revenue. You believe this fight? You. Canelo, Netflix can approach that number or go north of that number.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. Because it's a different. It's different times that we live in. When you look at today's time, you got so much piracy, you know, it's different. Back in the days, you didn't have that much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, but now, you know, everybody gotta have my kids be talking about, oh, yeah, I'm watching the UFC fights. I'm like, I ain't pay for no ufc. They watching it on their phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, so it's way different nowadays. And it's. It's hard. It remind me of back in the days when they was burning CDs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

And the artists was like, man, we can't make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We can't make no money.

[Terence Crawford]

We can't make no money because everybody burning CDs and stuff like that. So I just think, you know, it's going to do tremendous numbers. But to say.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I know how much.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I'm looking at, say, Canelo's guaranteed 150. You guaranteed 100 million. Damn, bud, it's too late for me to train. I mean. I mean. I mean, that's that number. That's. That. That sounds like a number that you can get down with, man.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know, man. I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know, Bud. I mean, I'm trying to figure. Help me out on this. Because Marvin Hagler once said, it's hard. It gets hard once you got mink slippers and silk pajamas to get up there and train and get hit in the face again.

[Terence Crawford]

That's what he said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. But here's the thing.

[Terence Crawford]

I ain't got no silks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but look at Floyd. Everything Floyd was making money doing. Doing 30, doing 40 million, $50 million a fight. And he still had the same desire and as if he had $2. Bud Crawford made money, and he still has the desire to get up and train if he has $5. How does one stay in that mind? Because it's easy now, but you live in an ivory tower. You just told me you got a new crib built, although it cost you $63. It's a new crib. Well, say you got this new palatial estate and you still stay hungry. How?

[Terence Crawford]

Because like I don't want to lose. That's, that's the thing. I don't want to lose or nothing, you know, so I'm. I'm fighting for my future, my kids future. So if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it to win. I'm not gonna half do it. I'm not gonna half step it. I'm not gonna play around with it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to win. So that's my motivation, my family, to secure them with generational wealth, with the businesses that I've created, right? The things that I put my money into, to teach them that anything is possible. And then not only that, for they kids, Kids can live off of their great, great grandpa's success. Like, you know when you see a trust fund baby, The Ford family, the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rockefeller, the Kellogg's, the Eminem Mars, the Heinz ketchup.

[Terence Crawford]

Yes, yes, yes. Why can't you know where I come from, man, people don't be leaving their kids nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

When they pass, man, people leave them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In debt cause they ain't got nothing to leave. Whatever.

[Terence Crawford]

I can't leave dinners and stuff like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

So I just always told myself if something ever was to happen to me, my kids gonna be straight with or without me, bud.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I don't know, bud. 150 miles. You still gonna want to go over in there and train. You still gonna want to go do another fight?

[Terence Crawford]

They might come with 250, they might come with two of them going to get it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So training, obviously you're gonna have to train. You're training for a bigger fighter. So what's that? Have you thought about, have you lined up some sparring partners? Because you probably have to fight, you know, spar with bigger guys than what you normally spar with. No, you know, mm, mm, bud, you try to make this thing seem like routine. It ain't routine, bud.

[Terence Crawford]

Man, listen, I don't spar. People my size. Everybody I spar is bigger than me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho said he want to spar.

[Terence Crawford]

I know, he told me. He told me, came down, he said, man, he want to get in the ring with me. I said, man, listen, that's what I keep telling him. I said, man, but he gonna, he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Doing an MMA fight with Debo James Harrison.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't want to do it to him. Ocho. Good, man, that's my guy. Yeah, he funny than him up, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go Go ahead, Do. Do one round, touch him up a couple times.

[Terence Crawford]

Y'all be wanting him to get straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have, because he'd be every. Every fighter he had, we had another.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everything. So Andre Ward. Yeah. That'd be just like, pop up, you know, just like, ooh, yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't think. I don't think he want. I think he just want the joy and the bragging rights to say he been in there with us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't think he want to get in there and for us to really spar him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. Just one minute. Just put one minute. Just one minute on the clock.

[Terence Crawford]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, that's it. No, 30 seconds. Let's get it down to 30. 30.

[Terence Crawford]

I'm gonna tell her. I'll be like, man, hey, Shannon, do 30.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, just touch him a couple of times now. Don't go all out on it, but just, man, yeah. Hey. Oo, Bug and I will be right there with my cat.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you a question. How different you win this fight, how different is the perception of Bud Crawford going to be? Does this put you in that pantheon?

[Terence Crawford]

I honestly think I've been there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Terence Crawford]

But, you know, everybody else got their own opinion, but after. After this, I think people will start respecting me more. But at the same time, they have some type of excuse.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, it's always going to be some type of excuse on why Terence Crawford was successful and why he won the fights that nobody thought he was going to win or he did what. Exactly what he said he was going to do, but it was a reason why it happened at the time or something wasn't right. So I just take it in stride.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There hadn't been very many, five division champs. You beat Canelo at the weight and beat him at that weight. I mean, people are gonna have to say, Bud Crawford with Floyd Mayweather, with Sugar Ray Robinson, with Manny Pacquiao. They're gonna have to. They don't have a choice.

[Terence Crawford]

I'ma say this, and I'm not just saying it. Terence Crawford could have competed with all those guys, all of them. I don't see not one fighter that I couldn't compete with from Roberto Duran, the Sugar Ray Robinson, I. I can't say Sugar Ray Robertson, because I didn't see him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

But the Manny Pacquiao's, the Hagler, the Hearns Hagler, was, was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was 160. Yeah, he bought it. Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

But I'm talking about those guys in around my way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Even. Even Haggler.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, I could have competed with. But the guys that was around my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Way, Sugar, Shane Mosley and all those.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, I compete with all of them. With all of them, hands down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But back then, bud, guys fault. I mean, now guys are gonna retire with 50 fights. I mean, I think. Who is that? Duran Duran at one point was like 78 and 0. These guys had like 100 fights. Sugar Ray Robinson was like, what, 200, 200 wins and five losses or something.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, boxing has evolved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause they fighting every damn near every other. Every other. Every other. Every other week.

[Terence Crawford]

So when you look at boxing, like we was talking about football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Terence Crawford]

You can't blindside, crack back and all that stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Terence Crawford]

Boxing have evolved to the point where we learned that we don't have to fight so much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. Because there's more money involved. And so you don't have to fight for ten thousand. Ten thousand. Ten thousand. Where guys can make X amount of dollars and fight one, two times a year.

[Terence Crawford]

Yes. And then when you look at those fighters that got all those fights, look at their health.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Why would I want to make so much money if I can't enjoy it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't enjoy it. But don't know I've made the money.

[Terence Crawford]

Facts. And have somebody steal the money because I don't know what's going on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

So health as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you watch the Charlo fight in Canelo?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you watch that fight? Did you take anything?

[Terence Crawford]

I was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you take anything from it?

[Terence Crawford]

I felt Charlo just came for a payday, really. But I really can't say. But he could have did more. He did a lot of good things in there that I felt as if he wouldn't know or had the confidence. He would have did way better than what he did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you feel that Charlo could have done more?

[Terence Crawford]

Yes. That's what I'm talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you talking about Charlo? Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think he was afraid of Canelo's power?

[Terence Crawford]

I do. I think he respected too much, you know? I do. But still, all in all, he did what he had to do to make it to the 12th round.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you gonna respect. You gonna respect it?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. We gonna see. I never got hit by him, so I can't say if I am or I am, but I'm definitely gonna respect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you gonna make him respect you?

[Terence Crawford]

Of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you got to. Cause he'll walk you down if you don't.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, that's his. That's his Thing he tried to walk people down. Now he gonna do what he gonna do and I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoever be there. I gotta see this. I gotta see this one.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Were you on the criticism, man, You've never been punched by anybody like Canelo. You haven't fought a contender. I mean, bro, you just getting, I mean, how do you get. Why do you get to fight Canelo this big payday when you haven't fought anybody leading up to Canelo and you see what he did to Billy Joe, man, once he hit you, you hear it all, bud. You've heard everything that somebody. I don't know if you've heard it personally, but you got people around you have heard what the criticism is about. You taking this fight with Canelo, that's.

[Terence Crawford]

The joy of it. Nobody knows. You know, that's the excitement. He's fought all these guys. He's did all these things to these guys. Terence Crawford is great at a lower weight class, but we don't know if Terence Crawford can take the punches in the arms or take the overhand ride.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Or the uppercut or the right hand.

[Terence Crawford]

We don't know. But that's why we fight, right? You know, there's a lot of what ifs, you know, that a lot of fans is asking or. And they mind what I can't do, right, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the last time he fought somebody that had speed was Floyd. He's never seen anybody with speed like.

[Terence Crawford]

Bud Crawford, but, you know, that's why we gonna fight. And then all the answers is gonna be answered on fight night.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna give him a rematch?

[Terence Crawford]

Ain't no rematch in the clause, but who knows?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you win or take all.

[Terence Crawford]

Hey, winner take off. I'm taking it all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I read that you don't eat beef.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't eat beef or pork.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just chicken, fish, turkey. You Muslim?

[Terence Crawford]

No, not at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I met you from Omaha, Nebraska.

[Terence Crawford]

All them cows out there on mall steaks. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Terence Crawford]

On steaks?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

I'm like, no, I don't eat beef or pork. I stopped eating beef. Cause it takes too long to process.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really break down everybody. Jordan with a shaking his head, said, mm, that's all right. I ain't got nothing to do in the meantime. So it'll break down just fine. A day or two. I'm good. I ain't fighting. Hold up. I read you deadlifted £400.

[Terence Crawford]

Probably like 455 or something like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, your little ass do 455.

[Terence Crawford]

Probably like 500 looking at you. You see, I almost slammed you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, I told you, buddy, I ain't wanna mess with that $150 million payday, man. Hey, everybody, man, I use your boy like, come on, man. Cause, hey, I figure I'm gonna get me a little cut. I get a little 5% cut, so. Well, did you do you did. Have you always lifted weights?

[Terence Crawford]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you just lifted now to try to pick a little bit?

[Terence Crawford]

I just lifted just cause I needed to. I just wanted to lift it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Terence Crawford]

I just looked at it and said, nah, I do that. No. And I just. It was like, do it. I was here, look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many fights does Bud Crawford have left?

[Terence Crawford]

As many as I want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you don't wanna stay too long, do you, Bud? You wanna enjoy it.

[Terence Crawford]

There you go. There you go. You just answered it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hello. Javonte Davis say you need the money. Shit. What's going on with you and Javante?

[Terence Crawford]

If I'm a boxer, he a boxer, you a boxer. We all need the money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't doing it for free.

[Terence Crawford]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if Javante said, hey, I come up to 154? I come up to 154 while you talking.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, man, you go to 154, you'll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Find Javante at 154.

[Terence Crawford]

I wish him the best. That's all I'm gonna say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why? Why did they come? Is it because that they feel they need to come for the guy that seems like he's on the top right now? And right now, you're the guy on the top. So everybody's taking Ryan Garcia, say Canelo gonna be bud.

[Terence Crawford]

They train together. He supposed to say that. And he's Mexican. He supposed to ride with us with his peoples.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you this. You can help me out on this. This last fight, Roach and Javante, have you ever seen anything like that?

[Terence Crawford]

Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you can't take a knee. That's a knockdown. Whether you. Cause I saw Floyd break his hand hitting the guy and took a knee, and they gave Florida a count. So I'm trying to figure out how Javante avoided that. And then I'm trying to figure out how he got his guy come up to the top of the ring and white grease out his eyes. They do that? Not.

[Terence Crawford]

But I guess that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's.

[Terence Crawford]

That's part of the new, you know what I mean, boxing era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you saw that. Tell me what you. When you saw that, you saw him take a knee and then you see he go. Go to the. The apron, and this guy come up to the top of the ring. Well, he like, hold on, what. What's going on?

[Terence Crawford]

I'm just as confused as you. I said, huh? I was just like, oh, that's crazy. And Steve Willis, a great referee.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is.

[Terence Crawford]

And he started counting, then stopped.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stopped it.

[Terence Crawford]

Like they said, hey, hey, you better stop counting.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wow.

[Terence Crawford]

They don't do that again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You being a boxing aficionado, you think Javante won that fight?

[Terence Crawford]

No, I don't think he won without the knockdown. You know, I thought it was a close. It was a close fight, you know, but I would have gave the edge to Roach before. He fought a great fight. Javante fought a great fight as well, but I just think he was overconfident. I don't think he took Roach like, I mean, serious.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Serious, right? Because they. I guess they fought earlier. They fought the amateur, the one from D.C. the other from Maryland. So they're very familiar with each other.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, but pros is different than amateurs. And, you know, Tank stopping a lot of people, you know, probably felt like, man, we've fought when we were some little kids, right? Man, I'm about to knock you out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right. What about Javante and Tank? Should that.

[Terence Crawford]

Should they fight Javante and Shakur?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Shakur, yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, they should fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why they ain't fighting?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. I think. I think all of them should fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, I mean, you got Lopez, Teofimo, you got Lomachenko, you got Shakur, you got Tank, you got Garcia, you got five guys. That's a nice little. That's a nice little Devin Haney. Devin Haney, yeah, you got six guys. Don't nobody want to fight nobody?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. I think they all should, you know, be fighting each other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what we got going on?

[Terence Crawford]

Politics, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If Shakur and Haney and Tank, if all them leave, if they retire with undefeated records, that's some bull jive. That's some straight up. You know it too, bud. Ain't no way those guys should have undefeated records if they're out in their prime and they damn near in the same. No, ain't no way.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, Tfimo got a loss already.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you're right, you're right. But fight, Lomo, he got a loss already. Fight. I don't care what. Maybe he could put a loss on somebody else. I ain't gonna be the only one with a damn loss. That's how I think, but that's how I think. I ain't gonna be the only motherfo walking around with a loss.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, for sure. Definitely. Definitely. I think they all should fight. You know, they all wanna fight each other. And I think, you know, with Turkey, Al Sheik in the mix now, and I think we'll get those, they got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big money over there. You go fight over there.

[Terence Crawford]

I ain't fight over there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't gonna mess with him.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, you would. What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, would you go over to. What is Dubai? Saudi.

[Terence Crawford]

Saudi Arabia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They pay big bucks over there.

[Terence Crawford]

If the ticket was what it's supposed to be, then, yeah, I'm a champion of the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Not of the country. If I had to travel the world to fight, then so be it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I like that. Ryan Garcia and Tank, they talk about they might fight again, blah, blah, blah. There was a lot made about this rehydration clause. You don't have that. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think you have this in this one. So theoretically, he's supposed to come in at 168. Night of the fight, he might be 180. 185. You cool with that? I had sat down with Oscar and Oscar said he think the rehydration clause had a lot to do with why Ryan didn't defeat Javante. What do you think?

[Terence Crawford]

I think two things. I think. Well, I'm gonna say three things. I think Ryan had an injury already preview. I mean, previous and training. I think the way he did have an effect on him because when you see him with Devin, he was too totally. Oh, yeah, you know, I mean, fighters. But in tank defense, I. I don't think fighters should be able to fight a fighter at 130. And this fighter rehydrate to 140 and you come in at 165.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

You know, I don't think that's right. And I think that's the. The problem that Canelo had with Benavidez as well. These fighters coming in at like 200 pounds and they weighing 168.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Damn, that's a big. Ryan, he had some things going on, you know, and we had, I guess it was detaining sample. He said he had a trace of a steroid in the system and Devin Haney, you know, complained and he tried to sue him and so what's going on? Why? Cause I look at Ryan and I think if he focused, he could be really good. He just have a lot of ish going on. Do you feel like if he were to focus and took it serious, I mean, you have to take it somewhat serious. But if he like totally locked in.

[Terence Crawford]

They all came up with each other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so they know each other so well.

[Terence Crawford]

They all know each other so well. Shakur, Tank, Ryan, you know, Devin, they all know each other, you know, so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is it hard to fight somebody, you know?

[Terence Crawford]

No, no. I'm just saying they all know each other, so they know, you know, how to fight each other, how to beat each other and things like that, because they didn't fought each other so many times.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What do you think about the Devin Haney and the Ryan Garcia fight?

[Terence Crawford]

I think, you know, steroids, if he was on steroids, he tested positive. Something to do with his performance. But at the same time, I can't take away from Ryan Garcia landing the shots that he was landing all day. You know, I just think that when Devin got hit, he didn't recover right. You know, when he got hit, he just Couldn't recover from.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ryan said he beat you.

[Terence Crawford]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ryan said he beat you. Actually say he beat the ish out of you. I'm just saying that was a man said he said it. I don't know. He.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, man, that's. That's. That's good. That's good for. To think that we. We.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We used to have this conversation, right? Would you fight Jake Paul?

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, Nah. Jake doing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He too big. He too big?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Jake big, but he doing his thing, man. I'mma let Jake do what Jake, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got 200 million for you.

[Terence Crawford]

I'm fighting Jake Paul. I'm fighting Jake Paul. Come on, Jake. Hey, Logan, forgive me. I gotta fight your brother, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you watch the Tyson and the Jake Paul fight. Come on, man.

[Terence Crawford]

I love Tyson, but Tyson shouldn't have been out there, right? Biting his gloves and stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Was he biting his glove because that was a tick, or was he biting his glove like, man, I wanna hit this joke upside his head so bad, but I can't.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't wanna spread no rumors, but Tyson shouldn't have been in there, right? At all. In no way, shape or form or fashion should Jake Paul ever be able to say he beat Mike Tyson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean? Like, Mike Tyson old.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. The 60.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Old enough to be my dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, and he shouldn't have been in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You bought the gun.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, definitely. Why not? The money was right. Get in there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do you think the appeal is? Cause we see a lot of these guys, a lot of the MMA guys want to come to the sport of boxing. We saw Francis Ngannou, he did pretty good against Tyson Fury. And then he got in there with Anthony Joshua, and it didn't go so well. We saw Conor McGregor get in there with Floyd. Even though Floyd was past his prime, it seemed like Floyd toy with him, drug him out to the deep, held his head up underwater until he. He couldn't get it. Getting. He couldn't get any oxygen. I mean, what's the. What's the appeal of a UFC fighter wanting to fight, wanting to box?

[Terence Crawford]

It's money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Money.

[Terence Crawford]

It's all about money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, I did a interview with a couple of UFC fighters, Henry Cejudo now. And I was telling them, boxers make way more money than UFC fighters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, and that's mainly what it come down to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, money. The UFC fighters see that. The crossover fights like Mayweather and Conor McGregor, how well it did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Conor was compensated.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. They like, hold, hold up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you see what Francis Ngannou and Anthony Joshua, the compensation that Francis Ngannou, he probably made 20 times what he's ever made in a UFC fight.

[Terence Crawford]

Definitely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just being. You know, maybe I'm at hyperbole here, but I think he probably made at least five times what he's ever made in the UFC fight.

[Terence Crawford]

Yep. So when they. When they see that, then they just, you know, it sparks the interest, you know? But then when they say, oh, well, boxers need to go to the cage, then the boxers. Boxers ain't never asking to go over there and fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause boxers are compensated.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. So it's like, y'all come over here and fight us because y'all want to make more money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

We not trying to go over there and make less money in the Octagon and get kicked or broke, choked out and stuff like that. So it's a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anthony Jo. Jake Paul said he want to fight Anthony Joshua.

[Terence Crawford]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jake Paul want to fight everybody. I think. I think Anthony and Josh were too big.

[Terence Crawford]

Jake big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't. I mean, Joshua like 250.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Jake Paul big. They both big.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you put your money on, then?

[Terence Crawford]

Come on, man, stop. Don't do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Look, I mean, that's a. You talking about. That is a. A gold. I think Joshua won the gold medal in the Olympics. He's a. I mean, look, the chin suspect. The chin like. Like this glass.

[Terence Crawford]

No, man. Them dudes big man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He big, too. He got too much muscle, though. He got too much muscle.

[Terence Crawford]

I don't never say nobody. Chin suspect in the heavyweight division, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta be able to take a punch.

[Terence Crawford]

He did take a punch. He took a few. You know what I mean? Them dudes big, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know.

[Terence Crawford]

Mack Truck. Boom.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was winning, too. No. Hell, no.

[Terence Crawford]

All right. That's what I'm saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, a little guy hitting you with a punch, you don't see. Can you imagine a big guy hitting you with a punch you don't see?

[Terence Crawford]

But just imagine a big guy hitting you with a punch you can see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to see it.

[Terence Crawford]

You can't do nothing about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean?

[Terence Crawford]

Them big dudes punching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Help me with this. Deontay Wilder, he was running through. He was knocking everybody out. And it's always the same. The overhand right. Fury fought the first time, thought he had fury. And Fury raised up like the Undertaker.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sat up in the ring, got up, it was a draw. But a lot of people Thought Fury won.

[Terence Crawford]

I thought both of them won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You thought both of them won. You thought it was a draw. You thought the draw was a fair outcome? Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Cause I thought. I thought Fury won a decision hands down, but I thought they should have called the fight off. I thought Wilder knocked him out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, now, the second fight.

[Terence Crawford]

Mm, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Deontay said it was the suit. He had this new suit way out of there. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He had that big old suit. It was cool, though. It looked good.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But now, you know, when you come out with something like that, you gotta be ready to rock and roll, bud.

[Terence Crawford]

I think them fights took a lot out of Deontay Wilder. They did, you know. And then on top of that, once Tyson Fury felt his punching power and he stood up to it, he wasn't afraid to get hit with it no more. And I think that just, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause once a guy don't feel your power, you kind of.

[Terence Crawford]

It did something to his mental because he's so used to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause then nobody had ever, ever gotten up when he landed that shot flush. No fighter had ever gotten up, right. And when he stood, sat up in that ring and he got up, what do I do now? If you hit a guy with your best shot, you hit him.

[Terence Crawford]

Bam. What I'm gonna do? Hit him again. You gonna take these all night?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I ain't gonna hit you and be like, oh, shit.

[Terence Crawford]

I'll be like, all right, you gonna have to eat them all night. We ain't even gonna stop. Just there, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man. So. But then I watched Fury. I thought after watching Fury fight, and I watched him fight Deontay Wild, and I watched him fight a couple of other guys. I got a little concerned when he fought Joshua, but I didn't think he took Joshua serious. I don't think he thought. Excuse me. I don't think he taught when he fought Francis Ngannou. I don't think he took him serious. And so I was like, man, can't nobody. And then I watch Usyk, he get in the ring with Alexander Usyk, and Usyk, just what I'm like, how, bro, you seem unbeatable for like 3, 4, 5 fights, and now you just.

[Terence Crawford]

Styles make fights. So were you used to fighting these big slower guys with a slower pace? And you get in with a smaller guy with a faster pace, with more movement and things like that? It's kind of harder than fighting those guys that you've been fighting, you know, in the past. And then Usyk, he's. He's tremendously talented.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, so he gonna faint you, he gonna move, he gonna slip, he gonna counter you and he gonna tie you up, things like that. So it's difficult, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

AB scamming these guys in the dice game. Is that why you don't. You said you don't gamble anymore because you say, man, I feel like I was taking money from my homies and probably some of the money that I was taking was my money to begin with. So all I'm doing is getting my money back and they wasn't gonna be able to pay me back. But are you. I mean, have you ever heard of a story like this before?

[Terence Crawford]

Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause you know, people boy A in the hood, they normally get you do stuff like that, man.

[Terence Crawford]

I wonder if they fabricating the how the mount. Okay, what they say is 1 point.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But no, they say 5 million 6.5 and fixed dice game.

[Terence Crawford]

Ah, they said 1 point. I'm telling you, 6.5 ain't no 6.5. I'm telling you, they said 1.5.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They didn't say 6 4. Give my phone, get my phone. We gonna pull this up.

[Terence Crawford]

They say 6.5, man.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Come on now we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For. Now we finna pull this up, bud.

[Terence Crawford]

Man, hey, listen, you gotta get it how you live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh no. Hey, hey.

[Terence Crawford]

If he, if they allow him to get him in dice for that much money, then they deserve to get their money too. Because how the hell did you in a street dice game allow yourself to get that much money took from you? It's crazy, man. No, I mean, what the instant. Nah, that's, that's. That's a fake site.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it ain't no fake site.

[Terence Crawford]

That's a fake site.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He collected 6.5 million from the scheme, including 1.5 million from current NBA All Star, 5 million from former players and 1.5 million from current AB hitting them. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You know the point that till 4.

[Terence Crawford]

10, 10, 10 4.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That till 4. Break the dice game up. Cuz ain't nobody going to believe you going to hit the flowers of that Little Joe.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, man, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, somebody hurt you about that kind of money, man. For real though.

[Terence Crawford]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And probably because they are NBA players and they didn't do anything. But if you do somebody like that, that's a hood. Oh, they, they, they sin for you, you know, they're probably bad.

[Terence Crawford]

Hey, AB Crazy dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ab man, look here. AB had a nice, had a nice. He had a nice career. Yeah, go ahead, man. Man. Man, when A.B. after some of the fights when A.B. started getting cooked, man. A.B. like I'm getting cooked.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, man. Yeah, that's wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When will Bud know it's time to leave?

[Terence Crawford]

When my mom tell me to stop.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If she don't tell you to stop, you gonna keep going?

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How old is your oldest kid? Child?

[Terence Crawford]

17.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Youngest one. You want the youngest to see what you do?

[Terence Crawford]

They all see what I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't. He don't want the one year old ain't seeing nothing yet.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, no, no, no. He ain't gonna be able to see it. Well, he see it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He just don't know what he watches.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, he ain't gonna be able to understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I've been the. The line. So 17 is the oldest. So you probably got probably what, like three over the age of 10?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they know. So for a lot, the older ones, they know what you do. They know who dad is. Okay.

[Terence Crawford]

All my kids, even my daughter, she four, she know what I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you good? I mean, so now I'm straight. So. I mean, you wanna. What, you wanna do this till you're 40? You wanted like a couple more fights.

[Terence Crawford]

40 is crazy. Yeah, man, but I don't know. I'm focused right now on this one. I ain't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so you. I. Hey, I worry about. I'll worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow. But right now, this gets laser focused.

[Terence Crawford]

There you go. Right now we. We in it, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What have you learned about money?

[Terence Crawford]

It's paper. It comes and goes, it change people.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I sure like it better coming and going.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, but it's. It's. The crazy thing is what money do for you, but make you comfortable. It don't make you happy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Terence Crawford]

It don't fix things. It can fix certain things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What about freedom? It does allow you a certain level.

[Terence Crawford]

Of freedom in certain aspects. Cause you can have money, you can have a lot of money, but still can't get in certain places. You can have a lot of money, but still can't sit at certain people table.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, so money is just a tool that you use to, you know, be somewhat comfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's the worst investment you've made? You buy some. I mean, you say you don't. You're not big into cars. You never bought no Rose, no Ferrari. What the hell you driving? A pickup truck in, Omar?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, yeah, I do got a. I do got a pickup truck. A 20, 25 GMC Denali HD HD. Okay. Ultimate. Yeah. 2,500.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want a farm, you got a farm.

[Terence Crawford]

I drag your little Car. I heard. Hey, you want to talk about my truck? I hook your little ride up, that diesel, you gonna be like, hey, hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna go get me a 650 tomorrow.

[Terence Crawford]

That's cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And pull the rear end off your truck.

[Terence Crawford]

You ain't gonna pull the rear end. We gonna be fighting. No, but I got cars, though. I got two Monte Carlos. I got a G wagon. I got a Demon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you got the Demon, huh? Yeah, I got the Black Ghost.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't let me catch you on the street.

[Terence Crawford]

That's cool. Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't let me catch you. Cause I know y'all got a lot of straight highways out there in Omaha.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nothing really worried about a pig crossing the street or something like that.

[Terence Crawford]

Man, we ain't got no pigs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a baby. You got no pig.

[Terence Crawford]

We don't got no regular pig. When you talking about Texas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm talking about. I'm talking about Nebraska. Let me ask you this.

[Terence Crawford]

Hey, man, you ain't gonna keep talking about Nebraska. Where you from? Oh, country.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I'm from Georgia.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Old country town Georgia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't from south. I'm from south Georgia. I'm from South Georgia. Trust me.

[Terence Crawford]

It's country town Georgia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two Stop Life.

[Terence Crawford]

What's out there?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Farmland.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hogs. We got wheat, onions. Onions?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just. It's farmland. That's what you. Farmland.

[Terence Crawford]

Come on, man. Your place can't compare to my place. Come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Georgia. You rather live in Georgia? I'd rather I live in Atlanta.

[Terence Crawford]

No, no, no, no. Where you from?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not where you lived at.

[Terence Crawford]

You live where you live at. I said where you're from. You ain't gonna keep talking about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Omaha. I want to come to Omaha. I'm gonna check it out.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, come to Omaha. Come to Omaha.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. What's the dish? What is Omaha famous for? What food? What dish are you.

[Terence Crawford]

I just told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Terence Crawford]

Steaks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, your Omaha steaks.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What else the hell am I supposed to. You don't eat meat. So how you know shit?

[Terence Crawford]

I used to work there. People used to buy their bugs up. Boy, all over the world, they talk about Omaha steaks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they do.

[Terence Crawford]

I used to eat beef. I ain't like. I ain't never eat beef before. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what's Bud's favorite meal? So your mom was. So, pasta.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Give me some lasagna. Some peace. I'm. I'm a pot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean pizza. Pizza is okay. I ain't I ain't no lasagna. Spaghetti.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, that's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you a breakfast person?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't really be eating breakfast like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really.

[Terence Crawford]

I eat here and there. I need. I. I eat it when I'm training, though, right? When I'm in training camp, I eat all my meals, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Are you ever gonna leave Omaha? Are you there to stay?

[Terence Crawford]

I'm probably there to stay. I'm probably stuck there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what about the kids? What about the kids? Say, dad, you know what?

[Terence Crawford]

Hey, peace out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I see you when you come back.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, I'm uncomfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know how, like, certain. Certain people like, you might move back to Alabama. You never know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean? They'd be gone for 40 years. They like, man, when I die, I want to be buried home where I was born. So I'm going to come back home, settle down, give me a house, and, you know, last 10, 20 years of my. 15 years of my life, I'm gonna be home.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a big sports fan? What NBA player, NFL player you believe could box? Cause I see Dame. I see Dame hitting the gloves.

[Terence Crawford]

Dame. Dame got some skills for sure for boxer Karl Anthony Towns. He be training, you know what I mean? He got. He got some skills. My boy D. Smoke, he definitely got some skills. He be really boxing. Boxing, you know, football players. Ocho. Cinco. Ocho, man, you gotta tell him, stop playing with you, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This joke he played, he swear he Floyd Mayweather.

[Terence Crawford]

Was it, man, Was it ladamian Thomas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ladanian Thomas, man, he knocked that dude out.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Then he.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You talking about. Nah, you talk about. You talk about the guy from Pittsburgh, the running back. Oh, Leon. Leon Bale.

[Terence Crawford]

Knock that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He. He knocked that Adrian Peterson.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, Adrian Peterson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Frank Gore. Frank Gore fight.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, Frank Gore can fight, too. I was just having dinner with Frank Gore, but yeah, man, Ladan Thompson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I got somebody I need you to train. Stephen A. Can you help him out, man? You see them uppercut, Stephen, they were throwing? Yeah, man, I saw them face coming from.

[Terence Crawford]

What's up? We're here with LeBron, man. LeBron. Come on, man. I got you. I got him. I got him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got to help him out, man. I mean, he said he his rotators.

[Terence Crawford]

He old though, man. He old though, man. Yeah, he old, man. He need a cheat. Sheen. Don't even worry about fighting no more, man. You ain't got to throw a punch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you gonna train him, Stephen, I got you. Bug gonna come in. He gonna train you. Gonna get you how to teach your man, stay over your feet. How to sit down. Spin that front tuck.

[Terence Crawford]

I'm gonna teach him how to. You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Teach him how to run.

[Terence Crawford]

No, he gotta run. He ain't gotta run. Yeah, he just gotta work his finger out. Work his finger. Keep it steady, you know? Keep it steady and straight. He too old for all that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a Laker fan?

[Terence Crawford]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You a Laker fan or you a LeBron fan?

[Terence Crawford]

A Laker fan. I ain't even want LeBron to be on the Lakers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? Yeah, but we gonna fall out, man.

[Terence Crawford]

Fall out. Why would I want LeBron on the Lakers when we was competing against y'all?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hadn't been competing a long time. Y'all ain't won no championships.

[Terence Crawford]

2009 and 2010, and we won against the who? Get your hand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. You remember. You remember you beat Miami? Who was on the team when they beat Miami in the bubble?

[Terence Crawford]

It don't matter. LeBron was with us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying.

[Terence Crawford]

But what I'm Saying is when LeBron played for Cleveland and all that. Yeah, it's competing against.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, we competing.

[Terence Crawford]

That's what I'm saying. So I didn't want LeBron on Lakers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now you want LeBron and Kobe.

[Terence Crawford]

I wanted Kobe, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you just imagine LeBron and Kobe?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, but that was imaginary.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see, now, just think about what the Lakers would be if they didn't have LeBron.

[Terence Crawford]

We'll have somebody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, yeah. You remember what you had when Kobe retired?

[Terence Crawford]

We have somebody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nothing.

[Terence Crawford]

We have somebody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you didn't. Hold on. Is it true Trey Songz tried to fight you?

[Terence Crawford]

No. Why everybody keep talking about that, man? Trey Songs was just having a moment. He was. You know what I mean? Having.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna put a miss on you. He gonna put a mess on you.

[Terence Crawford]

Put the miss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Terence Crawford]

Put the miss on me. It's crazy. He just was having a moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did he know who you were?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know. That's why I said I couldn't understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You really couldn't gauge it? Cause you like, bro, do I do this for real?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, like. Yeah, that's what it was. Is he serious or he just playing? I'm waiting for him to be like, ah, I'll just play with you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But he didn't do that.

[Terence Crawford]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna put.

[Terence Crawford]

I wasn't gonna punch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you do a body blow?

[Terence Crawford]

I was gonna choke him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, I was gonna choke him. He would've did one of them crazy Swings. I'd have ducked him. Choke, dude.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, has anybody, like. Cause a lot of times people might. Cause they look at your size, and they might not know who you are.

[Terence Crawford]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they, like, feel some type of way. You ain't never got into it with a celebrity, have you? Somebody, like, talking trash. You, like, bro, come on. This ain't what you want.

[Terence Crawford]

No. That was the only person that's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. I lightly got into a little altercation with Jeezy, but it was not like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

But, yeah, I want to choke you. I don't even want to punch you. Have you ever been choked before?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Terence Crawford]

So just imagine somebody, like, got your life in their hands.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

And they decided whether they want to let you go or not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Terence Crawford]

So just imagine when them people getting choked out in the ufc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

And they, like, just imagine if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if he tapped you, you ain't gonna let him go.

[Terence Crawford]

That's what I'm saying. Just imagine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think about it.

[Terence Crawford]

If ain't no ref, if ain't no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Referee to be like, hey, let him go.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean? Like, you gonna get up and you gonna think twice. Like that N. Could have killed me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He killed me. Yeah, for sure.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. So you just choke him and just be like, hey, now, get on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Clarissa Shields. I don't think there's really any question that she's the best woman's boxer today of all time. All time. You putting over Layla Ali.

[Terence Crawford]

All time. And I love Layla Wolf. All time coal miner's daughter. All time. Really? There's no comparison.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Terence Crawford]

At all. All time. I love Laila, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

But ain't nobody coming close to Clarissa, right? Two time Olympic gold medal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Terence Crawford]

Three time undisputed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Terence Crawford]

Well, how many weight classes she did? Six. Six different weight classes. Now, I understand it ain't a lot of women boxers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But she's the best of what's out there or what's ever been out there.

[Terence Crawford]

That still don't take away the accolades. She posed, right. It's no comparison.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got. Your name got dropped in a diss song. Kendra Lamar name dropped you in a diss song you like. So when people have you. So what is it like to, like, hear your name? I want to hear my name called in a song.

[Terence Crawford]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care what the song is. I just want to hear my name called in a song. That's it. Forever. Cause, you know, ain't nobody your name in that song forever. You know that, right?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, for sure. My name been in plenty of songs, you know? But when I heard it, I was just like, oh, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

That was it. Like, everybody was hitting me up like, man, Kendrick put you in this song?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know?

[Terence Crawford]

I was just like, oh, yeah. I was like, oh, that's crazy. You know, And I just left it at that. I didn't get like, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'll get all excited. Like, I'm getting residuals from this.

[Terence Crawford]

No, I ain't getting shit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you was on the set of Creed 3 with Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan Major. What's it like being on the set? Because they. They. Were. They fishing you that.

[Terence Crawford]

No, it was dope. It was dope. You know, to see Michael B. Jordan and his.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

In his element and see him navigating everything they shooting, and then he's stopping and he grabbing the camera and he like, all right, we gonna do this, and we gonna do this. I was just like. I'm looking back like, man, this dude talented, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, for you to be in person, acting right then, directing, then changing stuff, you know, I mean, like, oh, we gonna do it this way, right? I'm like, man, that's cold. You know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What's it like to knock someone out?

[Terence Crawford]

You don't even feel it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't.

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, sometimes. Sometimes you don't even feel it. Like, you knock somebody out, you be like, man, I ain't even hit him that hard. Because the ones that you try to hit them with don't get him out. Yeah, you be missing them or don't get them out, but the ones that you least expected, it'd be like, whoa. It kind of surprised you, right? But sometimes when you hit them, you know what I mean? And you can feel it, you'd be like, I know I got them, so it'd be cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, you know, when you get that, what's the hardest. What's the hardest hit you've been hit? The points you've received? Probably Gamboa bells ring just, like, buzzing.

[Terence Crawford]

Like, yeah, he buzzed me. I walk right into it. When you watch that fight, I would just put my hands down. Was like. I had just hit him with an uppercut.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Walked. They thought you had him?

[Terence Crawford]

No, I just looked at him like. And he just cracked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bop.

[Terence Crawford]

That motherfucker said. He said, fuck, let me grab this motherfucker. Let me grab his ass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is today's boxers as tough as the boxers? Damn. You ain't let me finish, bud.

[Terence Crawford]

It ain't. Boxers back in the days was way tougher than the boxers of today could you imagine fighting with 6 ounce horsehair gloves for 15 rounds. You get knocked down, the person's standing over you so when you get up, he can punch you again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Or they used to fight until somebody got knocked out. It used to be unlimited rounds.

[Terence Crawford]

So it's just like, man, it's crazy, man. Them people was crazy. Yeah, but I think our skills have evolved more than theirs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I agree. So it's a trade off.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sex before a fight. Were you on sex before a fight?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, Nate, man, I'm hitting something.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what about all the fighters that say, nah, you don't partake in any of that?

[Terence Crawford]

That's a lie. I've been doing that my whole career. I think it's a. It's my remedy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remedy for what?

[Terence Crawford]

Before I fight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It relax you?

[Terence Crawford]

It relax me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

I swear to God, Like, I swear.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not the night before the fight, but no, no, no. The week before.

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, like. Like hold you in training camp. Like Friday, Thursday, Like Thursday, Thursday before the fight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

I swear to God, like, everybody always ask me, you know, because that been the thing. People always want to know if I did, I'm like, yeah, right. It relaxed me.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But I don't want to go in.

[Terence Crawford]

The ring all, like, uptight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Terence Crawford]

I want to go in there, smooth water, like being able to see everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean? But it ain't for everybody, you know?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Cuz you hear all that? No, I don't. I don't do that. But were you nervous because you had heard. I'm sure everybody told you, man, you can't have no sex before the fight, man. No sex before the fight. The whole time. The whole six weeks, eight weeks, 10 weeks, however long it is. But you can't do that. And you did it and then you won.

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, I just look at it like when you training, when you playing football, right? They tell you not to have sex.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They say, get off your feet.

[Terence Crawford]

Okay?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But they ain't say nothing about her on her feet.

[Terence Crawford]

My point, my point. Thank you. So when you. I tell people this, when you not training for a fight, you fuck and then you go work out, right? You don't think about it. The only reason why you tired is because you trying to be a porn star, right? If you let her do all the work, you good. You saving your legs, putting, hip thrusting, squatting. You ain't doing none of that. You know what I mean? You just getting your load off, right? You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then you good.

[Terence Crawford]

But if you want to go out there and you performing and stuff like that, that's a workout. Of course you're going to be tired, right? So that's my take on it, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kids. You got seven, right? All your kids are by the same woman.

[Terence Crawford]

Six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Six of them.

[Terence Crawford]

My last one not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want more kids or you done?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, Nick Cannon.

[Terence Crawford]

No, no, Nick Cannon got too many baby mamas, you know what I mean? Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Would you let your boys. You let even the girls, you let them box, you let them play football? No boxing.

[Terence Crawford]

No boxing, no football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, boy. Damn.

[Terence Crawford]

You did it. That's why I did it. So they don't have to do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But what is that? Is it dad?

[Terence Crawford]

No, you ain't let me. No, he gonna be. He's like, sit down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he's six'three 200.

[Terence Crawford]

He ain't gonna be six'three cause I'm not six foot and his mama not six foot. So he ain't gonna be six nothing. He lucky if he gonna be five'eight you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They, they. You guys have been together since the beginning, right? I mean, and you. But and the thing is like, I think everybody wants that, that, that, that fairy tale. When I didn't have anything, I had you. Now that I have everything, I still have you. Doesn't happen often, but I think everybody. I think most guys long for that. How did you know or did you know? Highs, lows, in between. No matter what, she was gonna. She a ride her.

[Terence Crawford]

She put her to the test.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you.

[Terence Crawford]

No, I'm saying you both put to the test, right? It's not just her, right? You put to the test to deal with the stuff that she bring to the table. You know what I mean? She so forth. So you know, it's both. It's a two way street when it comes to that because you gonna put up with a lot, just like she gonna put up with a lot. And y'all gotta see if things work out right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is having her in your life, what does that meant to you?

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, I meant a lot, you know, because she supportive with my kids and things like that. She handled my kids and it's not hard. I mean, it's not easy taking care of six kids by yourself. So I love her dearly for that. So when I'm out of training camps and you know, like out in Vegas right now, she handling the house and holding the fort down, right? So it's definitely appreciated, right? You know, for me to have a person like that in my corner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you said something interesting. You said the last one is not by her, right?

[Terence Crawford]

Last one not by her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Uh oh, and you mean to tell me how you sitting here with your eye not closed?

[Terence Crawford]

Things happen, like, you know, different circumstances.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How do you walk us through it? How you go home? Hey, baby. How you doing, babe? How you doing today? I'm good, bud. What's going on? I brought you something. Hey, bud, what's going on?

[Terence Crawford]

Shit, you know. Hey, so how you doing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sit down, let me. Bud, what you want? What you got to tell me, bud?

[Terence Crawford]

Got one on the way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just like that?

[Terence Crawford]

Bud, you can't lie. How you gonna lie? You rather tell her now? It's gonna be worse when the baby comes, right? I'm just a man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What she say?

[Terence Crawford]

What she say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Did you yell, scream, dot your.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I.

[Terence Crawford]

Man, you had.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, hey, hey, you know what, bud, you ain't got. Hey, hey, you ain't got no $300,000 car. She got one.

[Terence Crawford]

No, she driving Mercedes Maybach Gle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now she gotta get Maybach.

[Terence Crawford]

Oh, you tripping, dad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you tripping? Maybach?

[Terence Crawford]

No. Maybox your ass to that Gle. My. Yeah, it's nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That mug.

[Terence Crawford]

Nice. It drive by itself and all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Terence Crawford]

How many kids you got?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three.

[Terence Crawford]

How many different baby mamas?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three.

[Terence Crawford]

Three different baby mamas.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

So the first one didn't dot your eye. The second one didn't dot your other eye.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But I wasn't with them like that, boy.

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, nah, nah. I don't care. What you mean you was with them? To have a baby by her.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm saying they thought you was with them. No, I was with him.

[Terence Crawford]

They thought you was with them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It wasn't like your situation, but I wish I'd had a situation. That's the only thing I regret. That's the only regret that I have. I wish I'd had all three with the same.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No matter who, whether whoever I was gonna be with. I wish I'd have been able to do that.

[Terence Crawford]

See, I'm cool. I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want more kids, too? You ain't done. I bet you have 10. I bet if I come back. I bet if I come back four years from now, I bet you have 10.

[Terence Crawford]

I wanted 10. I did. I used to always say, I'm gonna have 10 kids, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know kids. Expensive, bud.

[Terence Crawford]

It is. That's why I'm like. That's why I pushed off, like, hey, hold up, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

Especially when they start getting older. It ain't like my dad, can I. I'm 17. Can I get a car?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't like when you and I were kid, boy.

[Terence Crawford]

You know, But I. I love it. I love it. My house is never dull.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

You know, I love being a father. You know, I love, you know, the whole yelling and arguing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah. Yeah, man. Because you're gonna miss it when you get older.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Terence Crawford]

You're gonna be sitting around there with your. But your wife, she gonna be grumpy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's gonna be a while before you have to worry about that.

[Terence Crawford]

I understand that, but you're gonna be bored, and you're gonna be like, dang, let me go, baby. Can you make some grandkids? You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Terence Crawford]

Because you gonna want them kids to love you and things like that. And I just. You know, my grandma, she old, and she broke her ankle one time, and they put her in a nursing home to Rehabilitate her ankle. And to go in there and to see all those old people that don't have no family or the family members don't come right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't come as often yet.

[Terence Crawford]

I never wanted to be like that. Like, I never wanted to be like that. I never wanted to die, you know, not loved or mistreated or my family not being there to take care of. So, you know, I know my kids, but I know they better not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all I done. Y'all better be here. They bet not. I ain't going to no home. I'm gonna stay right here.

[Terence Crawford]

Thank you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And y'all come take care of me.

[Terence Crawford]

Thank you. Thank you. And that's the joy of having a big family. You know, everybody stick together. My kids ain't gotta worry about friends. They got each other, you know, at the end of the day. And when they mom and they dad and they grandma and grandpa pass away, they gonna still have each other from start to finish, right? You know they gonna have each other. Cause they gonna have me from the start, but they ain't gonna have me from the finish, right? But they gonna have each other from start to finish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Best of luck, Bud. Crawford, you say you seem like you're getting ready. I mean, you real loose right now, but I can tell that the storm is brewing, right? Right. And you getting ready for something special.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm chilling.

[Terence Crawford]

I'm chilling.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm always ready. I'm always ready.

[Terence Crawford]

Always ready.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Something special, you know what I mean? You just gotta stay ready so you don't gotta get ready.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So let me ask you this. When you, like, you know what, how do you determine? Like, do you determine. Do your team determine who and where you're gonna fight? Or do you say, like, you know what? I wanna fight this guy. He got a belt. I think that'll be a very compelling fight. That's a fight that makes money and it increases my legacy.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, it's a team, you know, approach, but for the most part, at the end of the day, it's my decision, right? Because I'm the one that gotta go in there and fight and put the gloves on and risk my health and my life. So at the end of the day, it's on me, right? And my team. Just supportive of what I want to accomplish in the sport of boxing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You and I were talking earlier, and you said you've gotten a few with a football player. And then you, like, man, later for this. Cause you were small. I think you told me you were four'eleven as a Freshman. And so how did you determine. How did you decide to say, you know what, I'm gonna try boxing?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, I was already boxing at the age of seven.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Okay.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what I mean? So being that I had got kicked out, you know, I went to other sports, right? So I went to basketball, football, wrestling, baseball, things like that. So playing different sports along the way. When I got a little older, I was just like, man, you got to make a decision, right? What sports you gonna play? And I was just like, man, kind of too short to play basketball. Even though I played basketball in high school, I was just like, I'm going back to boxing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What drew you to the sport of boxing?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think boxing drew itself to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, I think you like to fight, huh? I love to fight. I just think, you know, being that my dad, my uncle, my grandpa, you know, my mom was around boxing her whole life, I think it was just something that was in the blood.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, and that's what chose me. So, you know, I've been in boxing ever since.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who's your favorite fighter? Growing up, did you watch Sugar Ray, Hagler, Hearns, Benitez, Roy Jones? I mean, who were some of the guys that you.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Roy Jones always been my favorite fighter of all time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, hands down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. So you kind of. You kind of follow him, kind of what? You know, I think Floyd started off at 130, 35, 40, 47, went to 54. You started out at 35, 40, 47, junior middleweight. Now you're going to try to. We're going to talk about that a little later. Jump two, two weight classes, go all the way to 168, super middleweight. Roy did the unthinkable. Start out as junior middleweight, 60, 68, go all the way to 193, take the belt from Ruiz, come back down, do light, do a light heavyweight. When you were thinking, like, hold on, in order to be special, it's hard to be special and just stay in one weight division. Were you. Did you always envision going up in weight and try to clean out each division?

[Terence Crawford]

Not at all.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, when I look at my life and how I started boxing, I always envisioned myself being a world champion. Okay, that was it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I never thought about being fighter of the year, pound for pound, number one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fighter, six times fighter of the year.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what I mean? Like, none of that, you know. Well, nominated probably six times, you know, but I never thought of that, you know, I just was like, I want to be a World champion, that's it. You know, but along the lines of becoming a world champion, I was like, oh, man, I want more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I'm not finished yet. I want more. So every time I grab, you know, a new accolade, I'm like, all right, well, I want more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to you find something else to accomplish.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, for sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because when I'm looking at it, bud, you're the first male two time in two different weight classes to be undisputed than the four belt era that you got all, hey, if there's a belt, if there's a Hermes belt, ysl, Tom Ford, you got it. Wba, ibf, Ring magazine, whatever the belt is, you have in two divisions, you're the only. You're the first male to do that. When you sit back, I mean, probably you haven't had an opportunity to really think about it because you're still in it. Do you realize and understand just how special what you've done thus far is?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, all the time.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Like, I was at my house the other day, I just built a new house and just got done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I was like, man, it's an Omaha costing $57.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I was, hey, man.

[Terence Crawford]

I ain't gonna tell you. Hey, no, but listen.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So I was sitting in the house and I was just sitting there, and I was just like, man. Cause sometimes I don't congratulate myself, right? You know, I just, you know, keep it moving, right? I was like, man, thank you, God. I was just like, man, you did all this with your hands, like from this little dusty, little bad, little black dude from the neighborhood, right? That is her name on the street now, right? You did all that, came this far to this, you know, it's a blessing. So I was just like, man, pat myself on the back, look at my accomplishments and you know what I mean? Just think to myself, like, anything is possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because you hear a lot of athletes says, you know, when you say, well, what do you think you've done? He's like, well, once I'm done, I'll get an opportunity to look back. And because you're still in the journey, you haven't arrived at the destination where you say, you know what? I'm putting the gloves up, I'm hanging the trunks up, and I'm. It's. You're still on this journey. And for you to sit here and say, you know what I did? I mean, I was at the house the other day and I'm looking around and I'm looking at the belts on the wall and I'm looking at all the accolades and I'm like, wow, I did all this. When you say I did all this, what are you thinking?

[Stephen A. Smith]

No, I'm just thinking, like, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More to come, more to do.

[Stephen A. Smith]

There's definitely more to come. Okay. That's why I said anything is possible.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, because I was doubted my whole life, you know, coming up, you know, nobody thought I was going to be where I am at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, I didn't think I was gonna be where I'm at.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Especially living the life that I was living. So, you know, to accomplish so much in a sport of boxing when so many roadblocks was in front of me and try to stop me and block me from accomplishing the things that I accomplished this far, it's like, dog, you. You overcame so much.

[Terence Crawford]

You can.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You can overcome even more in the future.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you sleep well building up to the fight? Like, obviously you say, you know, like, the last six weeks, you might go. You might come to Vegas, you might go to Colorado Springs or somewhere to go to get altitude training. But let's just say the last two weeks of a fight, the last week, the waning, like, let's say last week leading up to the fight, because you probably arrived. You. If you're fighting in Vegas, how soon do you get to Vegas?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Probably, like two weeks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Two weeks before. Yeah. Do you sleep good?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you still get nervous all the time?

[Terence Crawford]

I think everybody get nervous.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I don't know a fighter personally that will keep it real and be like, oh, I don't get nervous.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right? Like.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Cause you never know. Like, I don't care how good you is, I don't care how bad you think you are, that opponent always has a chance on everybody, always got a chance. You know, it can be a punch that you don't see or some stupid, crazy, you know what I mean, punch, and, you know, it's over with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? I heard Floyd Mayweather and I talked to Floyd and he said that he didn't watch his opponents, he didn't watch film with his opponent. That was his dad's job. That was his Uncle Roger's job. They did that and they would implement the game plan. Do you watch film on your opponents, or do you leave that up to your training team to tell you, okay, this is what he does, and this is how we're gonna combat that.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, for the most part, everybody that I fought already seen him fought, okay? Because I'm a fan of the sport, okay? You know, so I follow you anyway, you know, but far as, like, watching you and studying you and sitting down. Nah. Like, I watch some fights of you in camp. But you're not gonna fight me the same way, right?

[Terence Crawford]

No.

[Stephen A. Smith]

No fighter that I ever fought fought me the exact same way that they fought someone else previous in the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But when I played, I didn't want to watch a team that we're going to play. So if they're playing on a Monday Night Football, I'm not going to watch them because I didn't want to get a false sense. Because if they play really good, I'm like, damn, how are we going to beat this team if they play bad? I'm like, oh, we got a cakewalk. So anybody that we're going to play, I'm not watching them on television. Now, obviously I'm going to watch the film because I got to break them down. I want to know what they're going to do down in distance, this area of the field and things like that. But for you to say, like, you know, I've studied them. So you're watching them. Let's just say you're ringside and you're watching them and you're like, man, if I fought this dude, I would do this. This. I would take this away. I would do this. I'll walk him into this trap. Is that how you're thinking when you walk today? Because I'm analyzing the game. If I'm watching a football game, I'm analyzing it. Oh, they're in this formation. They're vulnerable here. Okay. You better be careful because the blitz can come catch you here. I'm analyzing the game. I'm just not thinking about touchdowns or catches or yards. I'm analyzing the game. I'm playing the game within the game. Is that how you do it?

[Terence Crawford]

Nah, you just.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You watch a fan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really? You can do that?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, I'm watching as a fan, you know, I see openings, but at the same time, it depends on if it's one of my teammates or somebody I know that's fighting the fighter or whatnot. But I'm just watching as a fan. But if I'm about to fight somebody, right? And I do watch, I just watch for tendencies, things that, you know, they do on a consistent basis.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, he do this, he do this, he do this. He don't like this. You know, they don't like certain things in a fight, so you just break certain little things down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you sit in ringside, do you get annoyed when people say, hey, what you think, bud? If he win it, he lose it, what would you do? Because when I'm at a football game, it's hard. Or when I would go to a bar, hey, what do you think? Was that a holding? What should they have called here? What should they have done there? I'm like, bro, I'm trying to. Can you really enjoy the fight when you're at a fight?

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, for sure.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know what I mean? Cause for the most part, I'm with people that knows boxing, okay? They know the game, you know, so I'm not in an area where it's a whole lot of fans that don't know what they watching, okay? So I like to be, you know, in a spot where, you know, it's a lot of boxing knowledge, you know, and then for the most part, you know, everybody's just watching it. You know, you hear people yelling out things like jab or keep your hands up and so forth, but I'm just watching, you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you don't ever, like, man, come on, bro, you should have ran this, man.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Get down here, like, as a competitor, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, you think like, man, dude, you was tripping. Like, you could have did this and did this and did this, but at the same time, you don't got no dog in the race, so you just watch it. As a fan, let me ask you this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it's all said and done, could you be a trainer? Because I think, you know, we see Buddy McGirt did it. I think Virgil Hill became a trainer. There've been a lot of guys that not like you, because I think it's harder. I think the greater the player is in a said sport, the harder it is from the coach, because people think it came easy, and maybe it did. You worked hard, but you just had natural gifts that allowed you to see things and do things a lot quicker than someone else that had to work for it. Could you see yourself being a trainer, Bud?

[Terence Crawford]

I don't know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, I think training is tough. You know, a lot of people don't give these coaches enough credit. You know, they gone from their family. They probably had 10 fighters. You know, they camp here, camp here, camp here, camp here. You know, they away from their families. You got fighters that don't listen. You got fighters that. That talk back. You know, you got. You got to have a lot of patience to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

A trainer, you know, and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Or coach.

[Terence Crawford]

Yes. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm like, you ain't got no patience, huh?

[Terence Crawford]

I ain't got no patience. But they say that come with age.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, they say it come with aids because, you know, you sitting here and you trying to teach somebody something, but they keep doing the same stuff that you telling them not to do.

[Terence Crawford]

And it's like, bro, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because. Let me ask you a question. Have the coach ever like, bud, we worked on this in camp, bud, you can do this, bud. Just circle, you know, outside, step outside. Can you do, you know, like. Like, damn, I'm effing this up right now. Can you self evaluate yourself while you're in the ring?

[Stephen A. Smith]

For sure, you know, I know what I'm doing wrong when I'm doing it, you know, but at times, we all need a reminder, right? You know, I might go back to the corner and the coach might tell me, hey, listen, you doing this wrong. You know, I'm like, I know, I know. Then we have a conversation in the middle of the break, be like, all right. And then I come back and be like, all right, I see that you fixed that, but you doing this now. Okay, you know, like, let's tighten that up. Or, you know, he'd be like, all right, good job, good job. I see. I see you working on this, you know, because me and my team, we've been together since I was seven.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, so they know you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know them, you feel very comfortable.

[Stephen A. Smith]

If they see me trying something, they see they know what I'm trying. If they see me, how I'm moving or certain body languages, they already know what I'm doing. Like, all right, I see you looking for it. You know what I mean? But try and doing this to bring it out of him so you can land what you want to land. So you know what I mean? That's how close and tight me and my team is.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're in the fight, you're fighting. Are you thinking about what you have to do or are you like, okay, I'm thinking about doing this. His counter to this is this. Are you trying to, like, pick up tendencies, what he's trying to do, or are you more focused on what you need to do?

[Stephen A. Smith]

All of the above, you know, like, my head is racing, like, really, like crazy. You know what I mean? When I'm in the ring, I'm looking at the tendencies. I'm looking at things that you do. I'm thinking that I'm looking at things you don't do. I'm looking at when I faint, what you do, when I punch, what you do. You know what I mean? When I counter you what you do, like everything that I do in the ring is calculated, okay? You know, so I know like I might do something, don't do it until four rounds later, right? But let me come back to that, you know what I mean? Or I might throw a feint at you and be like, all right, you know what I mean? I see you went for that, but I ain't gonna do it right now, but I'm gonna catch you a little later because we got a lot of time, you know, so you gotta be able to out think the next fighter. It ain't all about what I'm about to do to this guy. It's, you know, it's how I'm gonna break this guy down, you know, how I'm gonna take away what he's trying to do, his strong points and, you know what I mean, making his weak points, you know, so it's, it's a.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lot of, we hear other sports, basketball players, we've heard Jordan, Kobe, LeBron, great players, the zone football players, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, running backs, zone baseball player Barry Bond says, I'm in a zone, I can actually see, I can tell the pitch that the pitcher is going to throw before he actually throw it. But what is it like when Bud.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Crawford get in the zone, man, everything's just flowing, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you like pinpoint like, oh, yeah, you about to do. I did this, you about to do that. I'm ready for that. And then everything just like. Does it slow down?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think every fighter at the highest level get into that zone and you just know, because as a boxer, you know, if I throw this punch, what punches can hit me, what punches can counter, you know, so you'll see some fighters, they'll throw a punch and they'll miss, but they'll be bracing for the counter because you know, they know, you know, this punch can land. If I throw this punch, this punch can land, you know, so if this punch can land and he counter with this, I can counter with this. Because there is a counter for every counter. So every time you open up to throw a punch, you acceptable punch, you know, but at the same time, if he counter me, I can counter him. So you gotta always be thinking like, you got a split second to think, you know, and that's when the winning starts getting the play, you know what I mean?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But help me with this. We see guys in the amateurs and they don't win much and they become world champs. And we see guys that maybe lose one or two fights in the amateurs and be some sloth when it come to the pros. What is it that big of a difference between the amateurs and the pros?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Definitely. Definitely. For one, you know, when I was in amateurs, we was fighting two men and four rounds in the nationals. You know, you got point system, right? You know, everybody want to da, da.

[Terence Crawford]

Da, da, da, da.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Some people got pro styles, some people got amateur styles. So you'll have somebody come in and throw a whole bunch of punches, hold and, and survive for four rounds. You know, that's the amateur game. But then you got some fighters that have that style that's just trying to catch up to you, you know, you might jump out on them. But as you see round three, round four, you know, this guy's holding, but he just skated away, right? You know, he know how to move, you know, within the amateur program. But then when you see when they turn pro, the guy that was more tailor made for professional, you know, he, he'd be more successful. Then you got little smaller gloves, no headgear, you know, and it's a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But see rounds, getting ready for a fight. How many rounds you going?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Man, I don't even count my rounds.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really.

[Terence Crawford]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you fight like? Let's just say for the sake of argument. So you have a guy come in the first round, do you have another guy come in the second guy round? Another guy come in, but different styles?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, it depends. We might go two rounds, two rounds, two rounds, we might go three rounds, three rounds, we might go one, one, one, one, one to get different approach, you know what I mean? So it's different. It depends on what the coaches want at that day. Sometimes, you know, we might spar one up, sparring partner, the whole, you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You always sparring headgear, you always.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Gotta protect yourself, right? You don't wanna get cut. You don't wanna take too many punches in training.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What size training gloves? 14 out 16. 16? Yeah. What type gloves?

[Stephen A. Smith]

You fight in tens now. I used to fight in eights.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eights? Well, what's brand?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Everlast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had some Everlast. Does anybody still fight in Reyes? Cause when I was growing up, everybody.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Fought in Reyes here and there. You'll see some fighters here, there, but.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For the most part, Everlast winning.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Gant, well, not winning, but Grant Floyd fought winning. He had hand problems.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Because they do. They are cushioning.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So you got rival, you got Everlasting, you got Grant for the most part. Okay, that people fighting in, right? Right now, Canelo fighting his Own gloves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did you. How did you decide what type of glove you with the trial and error, you fighting a lot of different gloves and says, okay, these feel the best for me.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I only fought in Everlast, except my last fight, I think Everlast, you know, me being comfortable with them and them being the gloves that I started with. I just was always comfortable with them, you know. And then when I put on a different glove, they just feel different because all of them made different, you know, I was just always comfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are you looking for in a glove? Cause some people like, I want to feel my knuckle right to the top. I want you to feel it.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I just want my hand to be comfortable.

[Terence Crawford]

Cause I got big hands, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

You know, so when I put them in the 8 ounces, man, they be like this, man.

[Terence Crawford]

Look like when you go in a.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Fight, you want everything to be comfortable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, you want to be.

[Terence Crawford]

You know what I mean?

[Stephen A. Smith]

So I used to get the MXs. Cause they wider, right? You know, the power locks is more thinner, you know, but mxs is wider. So I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The guy that tapes your hand, he's been taping your hand your whole career? Me? Yeah. You tape your own hands or you have somebody else tape them?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You tape your own? Yeah. Are you serious?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah. He said the guy he been taped.

[Terence Crawford]

Yeah, I have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really? Are you the only fighter that do that? Does that?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Oh, you got Manny Pacquiao that taped his own hand. Steven Nelson, he taped his arm. Fighters do it, right? I always did it because in the amateurs, you know, I had a time where I had let one of my coaches take my hands and take between. They fell asleep and ever since then I was like, man, I'm not doing that no more.

[Terence Crawford]

Going in there like they had all sleep and stuff.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So I've been doing it ever since.

[Terence Crawford]

I was a kid.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wow. Appreciate the technique, but you know, hey, for sure I should have been a heavyweight. But see, the thing is, bud, what you've been able to do is because you did this for an extreme. Like you said, you started boxing at seven. So you got 30 plus years of experience. It's just like somebody plays football, somebody plays basketball, somebody plays baseball. You're not fitting to start. Say, you know what? I think I'm going to go to. I want to be a professional baseball player. I'm pick this up in my 20s. You ain't going to never hit the curve, you ain't going to never hit the slider, and you not going to catch it with the fastball. Facts but you can see punches. Stuff that I wouldn't even think about seeing. Sure that Joe didn't hit me about four or five times. Hands back by the side like what happened.

[Terence Crawford]

All my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price Wanna slice, got to roll a dice that's why all my life I be grinding all my life all my life been grinding all my life Sacrifice, hustle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Paid the price Want a slice got.

[Terence Crawford]

To roll a dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Life.

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