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Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder.
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Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
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Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If I fly you to Detroit, if
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I fly you out the state.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If I fly you to Detroit, it's 50. 50.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Nah. If I fly you anywhere, if I'm flying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But if you need your passport. Yeah, it come with it.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's automatic.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If you need your passport, come with dick.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
How far you got to? I think just if you get on that plane, it's automatic. Period. Period.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't care if you fly out. So if you fly a woman to Vegas for 45 minutes from LA, she has to get in.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's for sure. For sure. So you saying if TSA involved you,
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
if you gotta get tied it down and go through that metal detector, then
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
you know what it is?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Cesar Faraday, Truth in the building. And today we have a very, very funny guest in the building. Super excited about it. He's a standup comed. He has a hilarious special on YouTube called Laughing Voodoo. So make sure you guys check it out. Please welcome Malik S. Yes.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What's up, dog?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
What's up, man? I can't believe I'm here. It's always like, even though I see you all the time, but you don't know. I never told you, but it's always a little weird. Like, man, I used to be in Miami watching this dude on the NBA.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You used to live in Miami?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I'm from Miami.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Oh, damn.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Born and raised.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah. I ain't really like y'. All.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Every other day. He waited until he called the show to tell.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm just saying. No, but I like you as a person. But growing up. Yeah. You know, but it's. It's always weird to be like, damn, I used to watch this dude. You know what I'm saying? Now it's like, yeah, because you never really see, like, people you admire. Like, I. You Never. It's weird. You never look at them as a regular human.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And then when you get around like, oh wait, he's just a. Just a guy.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Okay. Right, right.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Especially P. P, one of the guys.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, yeah, I'm cool.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
P be talking mad trash in the gym.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's just who I am.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
As soon as P. Walking the gym, everybody be like, ah, here we go.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, they can't be slacking when I'm in the gym. Dude, I see him over there, little ass weights. I'm like, boy, you don't stop that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, he's crazy for sure.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, we're super excited to have you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay. I love your show. You're special that you have. You're so funny.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Before we started, I had a chance to see him live about, about a month ago. Yeah, yeah, he's real good. He's good.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Nice. Before we started filming, you're talking about the difference between. There's a thin line between being crazy and entitled.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So please elaborate on that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I just. In this climate, I'm glad I'm not that young. I can't imagine what it is for like a 25 year old young man trying to date now.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because it's like these women, they expect a 20 year old to be living like Pete, to be living like me. Like he's 20, he can't get your hair done and pay your rent. He's 20 years old. You know what I'm saying? So I think there's a fine line between entitlement and crazy. To me I think it's fine to be a little crazy, but I think sometimes the entitlement is like, okay, you full fledged, something wrong with you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's the women. It's the women, dude.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Dudes too, but mostly women, you know, because we speaking from a dude perspective.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
But they got unrealistic expectations of men these days. Especially these women who are influencers, who once you watch these women get these followers, they feel like they. God's gift.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a drug.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It really is.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a drug. Like it makes them. It's almost like I noticed like now when people hit like 500k, it's like, okay, am I gonna be a rapper? Am I gonna be a comedian? Am I gonna be a model? What am I gonna be now? Cause I got 500k, so I gotta pick, I gotta be something now. And it's like. Cause it'd be like booking info. I'm like, booking do what?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like what do you do? Like what do we do? You clean houses. Am I booking? What am I booking?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, for women, that booking info usually means, you know, you know, what they getting booked for.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what? I didn't know that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, that's.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I thought it was walkthroughs, like clubs.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What they getting booked for?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What do you think?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Wow, I didn't know.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Promotion.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It started with a P. Prostitution.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Booking info means prostitution.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I didn't know that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I learned that. I learned that from different women, like being around, like these influencers and their homegirls and them telling me the stories. I was like, oh, that's what the book is.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause I always saw it. I'm like, well, what does she do?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's what she does.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And see, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was like booking info to like do walkthroughs at clubs. That's what I thought.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, booking info means book this.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Wow.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
So cats be going in the club now hollering at chicks be like, yeah, you know, when can I book you?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Wow. I guess it does sound better than, you know. It sounds professional.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Sound professional.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It sounds professional though.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's the modern day prostitution.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That sounds professional, you know. Oh, yeah, I booked up before.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It really is. I really didn't know that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Actually, I didn't know that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I didn't know that for a while. But I learned because, you know, I have homegirls that have homegirls and be around.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So, you know, booking might mean fly you to divide Dubai and book that, you know.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, I mean, I think that's. If somebody fly you out the country
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
to get on, you're okay.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, for whatever it is. If you fly out the country, that comes with that?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, for sure. I don't know if it comes with getting on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, no, not that part. I'm just saying.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I mean, yeah. If I feel like if you go out the country and a man that you don't know, like that is flying you out the country, you should accept, expect to have to give that thing up.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
In my opinion, that's why I'm not gonna go.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You should know better not to go if that's not what you're on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Exactly.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But if you're on that, then you're
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
gonna have a good time.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Then you. But if you're not on that, do not go on them trips. I tell women that all the time. Don't go on that trip if you ain't ready to do that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, this is my rule. If I. If I fly you out the country, then yeah, but if I fly you to.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
If I fly you out the state,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
if I fly you Detroit, it's 50. 50.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Nah, if I fly you anywhere, if I'm flying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But if you need your passport, you. Yeah, that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It come with that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If you need your passport, it come with dick.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
How far you gotta? I think just if you get on that plane, it's automatic. Period, Period.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't care if you fly. So if you fly a woman to Vegas for 45 minutes from LA, she has to get on.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's for sure.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
For sure. So you saying if TSA involved, if
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
you gotta get tighted down and go
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
through that metal detector, then you know what it is?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
See, I'm a little. I'm a little easier.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Because that's actually crazy. Because I was like, crazy. Don't. I mean, it just depends, like if I'm dating someone and it's long distance and we really want to get to know each other. And he's like, look, I'll come out there, you come out here. And he just is like taking care of stuff because we really want to try. He's courting me. Then that's different. Like, you live in Atlanta or you live in Miami. I live in la, but we met while you were out here. We ran into each other. Now he's like, I'm going to come to la, but do you think next week you can come to Miami?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cool.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Like I'm still getting to know you as well.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
If you go to Miami.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't think it's an automatic. I don't think it's an automatic Miami.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think Miami is one of those cities where it's kind of like it's almost, it's almost overseas.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It don't matter where you fly. If I fly you to Utah, it's going down.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I don't believe in that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, you don't believe?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I believe, yes, that if you're going out the country or if you're like on that. But I think there's levels to it. I don't think it's worth it to me. I tell women all the time, it's never going to be worth it. I don't want to go fly out to see you. I think that that's not even worth. In general, what if I don't like you and now I'm in another state with you? Like, I think that's blowing me. I don't want to be around anyone that I don't like for long periods of time nowadays.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think because you, you Got yourself together and your mind is right. I think nowadays people do a lot of things just for the photos. They'll go knowing they don't like to do. But I'm gonna be able to post these pictures. I'm gonna be on the plane. You know what I mean? It's all content.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's content for them. And I think the difference, like for some women, for me, I go places all the time and I don't. People wouldn't even know I'm out the country. I'm here, I'm here and I don't even post.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because you actually really live in the experience.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, exactly. I'm in the present moment, I'm living it, but I've never took it like taken an out of country vacation with a man like that I wasn't with in a relationship. Like, I just don't. Yeah, I don't see. I'm not doing that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Like I've never done that either.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. I just don't think that that's something I would do because I don't feel comfortable being with you if I don't know you on that level.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Especially past two, three days, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
If I was spend the night with you overnight, share a room and I don't even know you on that level or like you, that's ow. I cann do it because I have to really like you. This starts to get awkward. It's weird. It's very weird.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Even me as a man right now, I can't imagine spending two, three days with somebody I just met. I'm like, I don't know you like that, bro. You can't just be in my space like that. I don't know you. I don't care how fine you are, how pretty. If I just met you. You can't just two, three days.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, that's crazy.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I can't do it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I agree with you on that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So I was watching some of your special and you talked about. So you talk about a lot how you like older women.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, man. Cause it's easy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What's an older woman?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
What age is an older woman when I say older? When I was younger, older. Was older. Not that I'm older. Older.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What is older for you? How old are you?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm 48.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, so older.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So older now.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Older. You guys are the same age. What is older? What is the age that's older for you?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, right now. Right now. I wouldn't want to date nobody younger than like the youngest I would date would be like 38, 38.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Wow, that's powerful to you?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I can't really deal with.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, I can, actually.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And that's not a diss on anybody that's younger. It's just for where I'm at.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So what is your. So an older woman is 38 and above.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You think an older woman's not 38? I don't consider somebody 38 older, but I'm saying the youngest I would date would be 38. Older woman to me is like 54 or 55. And these, a lot of these 55 year olds is killing these 30 years old.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You don't consider me an older woman.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
How old are you?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I'm 34.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, you, you a young, you're a young girl.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know, he tells me I'm an older woman every day on this show.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But you probably mature as hell. That's probably why.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, no, no. He just says, I'm cooked and I'm older because I'm 34. I'm done.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You out the game.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Nobody wants me.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Nobody.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
This is me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Nobody ever wants me to work.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
No, but desperation kicks in when you get in your 30s for women.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He always says that, but that's not true.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You're not a woman in your 30s for you to even make that assessment.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I just see it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You don't because that's not true. Well, the women that you surround yourself with.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I didn't surround myself. I'm just so far looking and I'm
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
like, man, I don't know, thirsty.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
How old are you?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What do you think about that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
About what?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Me personally, the desperation kicking in after 30. Like, I'm 34. I can't go to the grocery store without a line of men surrounding me.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think times change. I think it's times change that's not real. I think women are so much more independent now.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think times have changed where women, at least outgoing women and women who believe in themselves, don't require a man. They want a man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Thank you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's the kind of woman I want. Yeah, I don't want a woman that need a man. I just want you to want me, not need me. Like, I don't want. Like, the craziest thing to me is like, and this is probably social media stuff, but you hear all the girls, they was like, well, I meet a dude and, you know, he gotta do this, he gotta do that. I'm always wondering, what were you doing last month?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Right, right, right.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
How did you live last month before you met this dude? Like, how you Live? You. You live somewhere?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You driving something?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
How were you living? Cause how come whatever you had going on, soon as you met me, it went away?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. And especially with. As soon as you meet someone. How are you requiring this? I don't even know you. Like, you. You want me to do all of this and I just met you?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, I don't know you, bro. I am like, you need a scholarship.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You need a scholarship.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm not a scholarship dog. You need a grant. You need to go to the government website, look for grants.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But do you believe that women are more desperate in their 30s?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like I said, I think times have changed. A lot of women are very independent. Like, especially with, you know, I would say black women and women of color is one of the most educated groups in the country.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So they. They doing a thing.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't think it's like it used to be, you know, when we were kids, me and Paul. Well, women didn't really work, have good jobs. Women running things now. You know what I'm saying?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Influencer, huh?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah. Women are killing it. Like, influencer. Owning their own businesses. I know a chick that do lashes on. Killing it, bro. Like, millions and lashes. She make lashes. She sells.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
But they got diamonds on them.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, it's just cosmetic and beauty industries.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The beauty industry is crazy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's growing. The beauty industry is big. And I feel like men always have this misconception. And when I say men, I mean, Paul. That basically women are so desperate and lonely and we want a man so bad and this and that. And like I said, you'll be so surprised. Like, women can really thrive without a man. Matter of fact, a woman without a man can be more cracking because they're not stressed in our nervous system. Yeah, of course. But, like, what I'm saying is it's not desperate. Like I said, like, I can't even walk outside without men trying to be like, what's up? What's up? Da, da, da on me. Army on me. Like, I don't have not an ounce of desperation in my body.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Like, because they. This is the reason. The reason they not desperate now is because prostitution is paying bills only for the booking info is paying. The booking info is paying. They finding the ways that it's so many different opportunities to make money now. And now we live in a whole society.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. I think just.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, this is a lot of truth to that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
There's truth to that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
So they like, I'm getting money. I don't need y'.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
All.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's not every woman, though.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's not every. I think what happens is, now we live in a world where our algorithm is our perception of things. And sometimes you gotta step outside of your algorithm.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Tell us.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause a lot of times we just like, especially being from Miami and moving to la. La. People think LA is the world. And I'm like, bro, the world is bigger than la, dog. It's not just y'. All. Like, it's a whole world out here. It's not just la. So I think a lot of times people get caught up in their algorithm and what they see and they like, well, this is what the world is.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
This is what they believe to be true. And you get caught up in that, and you don't change your. Your. Your.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You got to start liking some other stuff.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You got to start sh.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You ever get in that rabbit hole, you're like, okay, I got to stop getting these videos. Like, I want something else.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know that. I literally just reset my algorithm the other day. It wasn't anything crazy, but I just kept getting too much. Like it's the same. Yeah. I said, let me reset my thing and let me start seeing different stuff. And I did. And I'm starting to see different things about business and growth and stuff that I really want to get into. But I think you're right. I feel like people have this tunnel vision. It's like what you see is what you believe, and that's why everything is about proximity. What you're around is your perspective. So that's why when people have a limited perspective on what they think is going on in the world, I'm always like, you have to shift your perspective, because I see something completely different than you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know, like, you may see a bunch of prostitutes, but I may see a bunch of boss women that's selling a million dollar lashes.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I may see this woman that's. Educated black women are the most smart, educated women right now, to your point,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
like, some people may see a bunch of prostitutes. I see Jasmine Crockett all the time, right? And then you ask them, they be like, ooh, who is Jasmine Crockett? Like, dude, you gotta open up your mind. You should know who Jasmine Crockett is.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
100%. 100%. But, yeah, that's dope. So another thing that you said is, you said that you feel bad for women because women love with all of their heart.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Women love for real.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. And you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm just going.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I don't agree with that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, he Say what he has to say.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Women not hoes.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Again, he doesn't know the difference.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Women not hoes. See, a lot of time I think women and hoes get mixed into the same thing. It's like how sometimes for better. This is bad example. Niggas and black people get put together.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Come on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So I think women, if a woman. One thing I know for sure, if a woman love you, bro, can't nobody take your woman. A nigga can take your ho clock.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That. That's a. That's.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Can't nobody take your woman. Yeah, they take your hoe. 100 hoes get got all the time.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Women get got all the time too.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Women don't get got.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, they do.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Women don't get.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That means she left already. Ain't nobody take her.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Well, ain't no well. There's no such thing as women then. I'm just.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That is crazy.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
There's no such thing as women like women. All women cheat.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I'm not arguing that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I believe that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I believe that. I don't know that. I'm not arguing that. But what I'm saying is a, nobody can't take your woman, bro. Either you gave her away, something. But somebody could take your hoe. You could treat a hoe amazing and she still will go to somebody else.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
How did you get your woman, though? How do you get as a man? Like, I say this all the time. You gotta have under certain conditions. She's your woman, right? Like if he ain't this tall or doing his own thing or busy, it ain't that. She can meet a totally cool ass dude. Vibe with him at the bar. And yeah, his personality, cool. I feel the energy with him. Then she found out, oh, he's lived with his mom, he this and that. And then like, oh, if he ain't got all this other stuff right, then. What do you mean? Love? Love is under the conditions of what you could do for them.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, I know for me for sure, like, I'm very. I'm a shallow lover.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Shallow?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I'm shallow. I mean, I am who I am. I'm not like, I like what I like. I'm not. I don't like. Well, a woman will. I think if you catch a woman at the right time, a woman will fall in love with any man. I don't think a man will fall in love with any woman. We too visual for that. We too. You know what I'm saying? Like, p. You know you not. She could be cool as hell. You be like, but I ain't finna be with her dog, you know what I mean? Well, a woman like we were talking about, if she got her money together and this dude treat her right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I've seen so many bad women that are beautiful be with men who don't really have a lot of money like that. So many women do that. So many women I know.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because she ain't looking for money.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Because you're not. Even if sometimes you don't. Sometimes women are so infatuated with romance and love and actually finding someone that's for you that you'll look past a lot of shit. I've looked past hella shit. I was with a man who's five.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Especially if you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And I'm five, six like that you could look past so much stuff like,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
hey, this is my superpower, bruh.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, don't be.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
See, P is tall.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
So every.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think every man has something that can attract a woman. You just gotta know what that is and you gotta use it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I think though, for Paul, it's hard because he's been famous or rich for majority of him.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
See, I wouldn't.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's been more famous more than he hasn't been. Right, Right. So you don't understand the other perspective out there.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like my.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Like someone I was with for years was five, eight, Right. And he like. I wasn't a regular cool dude.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So he knew you liked him for him.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I loved him for him. You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't about that. And the problem with a lot of women, including myself, is we love hard. But then you get with a man who's so used to women using them that no matter how hard you love,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
they got a wall up.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
They never gonna see that you really love them. And then you're gonna mess up the right woman who actually truly loves you. Because you're so blinded by the fact that you've been used and abused by people and you're so scarred by that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
See, that's one of my things. Like I don. Want to. I hope when I get to be this household name and this big star that I'm already got my person.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because like, you know to be like
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
big star, you don't.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You like. I like you. Everybody like me. Yeah, Everybody like what you mean? You talking about everybody like me?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But everybody don't love you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And so you got to know how to decipher that just as a person. Like men claim they have certain intuitions or they feel something. I think a lot of men look past those things just like, women do, and they know, oh, she might be using me, or this might be just something.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Okay with that. They like. But it look good.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
We talk about that. It looks good. You're good. I'm cool.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
My boy's giving me props. Yeah, I'm cool.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I'm cool. So a lot of men do that, but then they still end up getting scarred and hurt because your woman can't get took. But guess what? She's a hoe who's with you on conditional reasons can definitely get took. So now you got scarred because you were looking past all this stuff, and then you come and you blame all women, and that blows me. Women do the same thing. You go with a man who you know is not a good choice because your picker is off. You keep picking the wrong man, and then you sit on these podcasts or this Internet and you talk about how all men is not it.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right. Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know what I mean? And I'm sick of that narrative because there's a lot of good women, and I can't sit here and subscribe to the fact that all women are hoes. There's no good women. There's no women that are gonna love you. And I won't subscribe to the fact that there's no good men and that there's no good men that are.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's your algorithm.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. It's who you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's who you be around.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You decide to surround yourself with. It's your frequency.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, yeah. At a certain age, if you still saying all men ain't this all women ain't that. It might be you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. That's a fact.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Probably me, then.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
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Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Okay.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Do you think it's more or less of a red flag if someone says they never argue in relationships?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's a red flag.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It is if they don't ever argue.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You lying. You're a liar.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You lying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah. You lying or you don't care? Because if you care, you're gonna have some kind of disagreement.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Oh, yeah, I agree. Do you feel like a woman should like you more than you like her or you should like her more than she likes you? I just heard someone going back and forth, Cash Cobain, a rapper.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I don't know. I feel like Kurt Cobain or Kurt Cobain.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. He said that a woman should always have to like him more than he likes her. I think a man should like you more because women love way harder and we're like too like, emotional and it's like if a man likes you less, you just looking crazy and thirsty.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, that's tough because you definitely want the person to like you as much.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know. I mean, I think each individual we gonna always say, nah, the person gotta like me more. You know, just on some selfish, protecting your heart.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You're just gonna say that because you wanna. Okay. More or less respect lost when a woman proposes to a man. Have you seen women been proposing to men?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I've seen that. Do I lose respect for her?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Or just what do you think about it?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, it's just one of those western society things that we haven't seen it so it looks. But who knows? I don't know. I mean, those marriages probably work out, but you know, western society says that the man's supposed to propose, so I don't know. I Probably would feel a little awkward if a woman proposed to me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because naturally I feel like I'm supposed to be ready before she's ready. Cause now you putting it on me
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
to be like, yeah, the women ready from day one.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's not true. Not women always wanna marry a man. I've had men and women.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Not that man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Like, I feel like I've been in relationships where I'm just like, okay, I gotta wrap this up. Like, I'm serious. Like, I'm not gonna see. I do not see a future with you. I can genuinely you a good time. Like, not even a good time. Like, I love you and I'm in this relationship, but now that I'm getting to know you and I see your traits and qualities as a man, it's not someone I wanna spend the rest of my life with.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Simple.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Like, I can't. I might be miserable if I decide. Like, I have a serious fear of that. Like, I'm like, I don't wanna be complacent just to a ringer. Just to say, I have married. Married to meet societal expectations. A lot of women do that. I know women who are like, well, I'm this age, so I'm going just have this baby with him, and I'm going just marry him. I could have done that before, but it's like, hell, no. I. There's men who want it more than women at times, and it's just like, I'm cool. I've had to walk away from situations like that. So not every woman is just thirsty for that. A lot are. A lot do. Because it's so much pressure on a women. When you are single as a woman, you're automatically pegged as. What is wrong with you?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Something ain't right. Was right. Why are you single? You must have this. Why you ain't married? Like, well, because y' all on. Like, I want to be alone. Y' all be on weird. I'd rather be by myself. Okay.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Get it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know what I mean? I just feel like, what? Okay, so move more or less risky. Moving too fast or taking your time.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think taking your time is. Is more risky at my age.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I feel that at the time.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It's more risky.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause at my age.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
We ain't got all that time.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We ain't got all that time.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. What we doing?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If I'm dating a woman that's 48, she like, hey, what we doing, bro?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying? I think younger generation, you know, moving too Fast may be risky for them.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, but so how long you. How long if you get into a relationship now at this age, how long you think you have to be together before you're like, all right, I'm ready to be married, to be married?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know if it's a time. I think it's a feeling for me. I think it's a trust, it's a vibe, it's a energy. I don't know if it's a time,
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
but what do you feel like. Starts to be like, all right, what are we doing?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'll say this. I think the reason I never got into a serious relationship to where I was married again is because after my divorce, the way my kids handled it and my daughter. So I kind of wanted to like, make sure she was mature and older before I got into like, you know, like, I'm gonna marry somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that she's older now, I think, okay, now I can.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You feel like you could bring someone around.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I can bring someone around. You know what I'm saying? And she can handle it. And, you know, we can try to do that now. But I think for those first couple years. Cause she was like 11 or 12, and it was, it was, it was.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, the first couple years, you need to take a minute anyways. You was in a whole 26 year long relationship.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Not good, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Put a strain on our relationship. So I'm still building that back up right now.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But now you feel like you're at that place?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I feel like at that, at some point I'm gonna have to be a little bit selfish. I can't not live my life based on, you know what I'm saying? Because she's gonna go off and have her life. So I feel like she's a little older now. We build a better bond, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like the. My ex wife lived right around the corner from me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know, I purposely did that because I didn't want to have to go, you know, like right now. Yeah, like right now they live around the corner for me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because I wanted my daughter to be right there, you know what I'm saying? So she goes back and forth.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So you love your daughter more than your son?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't love my daughter more than.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You said that on the podcast.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a comedy, but.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, I know.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a different love. It's a different love.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, you got brothers?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, I have five sisters. Yeah, My dad had six sisters.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know what your daddy did in his past.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I know, yeah. They say that, that. But I have brother in laws that my sister's been married for almost 30 years and I'm 34, so he's a brother to me, basically. But.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But yeah, I mean, you know, me and my daughter relationship is a little different because she took it the hardest. She was younger.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. So I get it. It's hard. It's hard. But you gotta sometimes not coddle your children as much and learn. Because I'm a daughter and I did
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
that, and I think I did that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You. You coddle too much and you try to protect them too much that it becomes like, now you put them in a position where now they feel like you're always gonna do that. You gotta rip the band aid off. And I. Because they went through struggles and they went through stuff and they try to hide shit instead of just being real. And that damaged me more than you just being real with me. That starts to make me feel like, okay, well, I'm expecting this unrealistic expectation of what it's supposed to be, when in reality it's like, as a daughter, I'd rather you keep it real with me. Because then as a kid, you have intuition, you find out shit anyways. And it's worse to look at your dad and be like, damn, you wasn't even keeping it real with me. You know what I mean? Cause I've had that situations with my dad. And it's like, just be honest.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That was a tough. That's a tough situation. Because in that process, I end up hurting people too.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You do.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Which I feel bad, which now I deal with that. That's a lot of guilt that I carry around because I hurt people who really generally love me. And we could never.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But you're trying to, like, make it right. So it's not like you can't feel guilt because you were trying to do the right thing.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was trying to. I was doing the best I could,
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
but this was what I should do. We think coddling and hiding and doing these things is the best you can do. When in reality, kids are a lot smarter than you think. And sometimes you just need to be like, hey, this is what it is. You know what I mean? And that even if it doesn't seem like in the moment, a kid will be like, all right. And as a man, we look at that man. Because your daughter, you're her first love as a man, so she gonna look at you and be like, okay, cool. I know my dad moves like this. And. And then you teach her to be an adult because you can't. A woman's gonna go into the world and you gonna be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on? And if you come in shelter too much, that shit is gonna mess you up in a crazy way. You need to learn that shit early
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
on because she August.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You need to learn that early on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm all like, oh, boy. Oh, yours go off to college, too?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm like, boy, I'm gonna be in Houston every other. Every two weeks. I might have to get a little airbnb down there. I told her I'm. I told her, I said, you ain't going to no school where I can't get a direct flight, right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Go to no weird ass school. I gotta fly and drive. Yeah, that's good, though, because she's supposed to go to tsu, so, though. Yeah, you know. Nice.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Those tough lessons help you as a kid?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, it's tough, man. But, you know, we figured out, I mean, you know, like, we in the same situation.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Sure.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Your daughter's your first.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah. She's 17, about to be 18, about to go off to college this August. Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yep.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. That's crazy.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I mean, I don't know what to do.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You don't even know if you. Like, I feel like I'm ready, but I'm like, damn. It's scary, though. Cause you feel like they not ready ready.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah. For real.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Especially these valley kids. I feel like, is she even ready to, like, be on her own? She's such a valley girl.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. That's why you got to do that. Because I feel like for a long time I was sheltered and coddled, Right. And then I went into the world and I lost my mind, right? Because I was like, whoa. And then, like. But then that happened to me. Young. I was like 14, 15. I can't imagine if I was 18. You know what I mean? So it's like those tough lessons you gotta learn soon. And I remember my dad used to be worried about me when I went off when I was 18. And he would call me and be like, you know, like, he would just have different shit every other week, like, so did you go to the doctor? Like, yes, I'm cool. And then he slowly learned, like, oh, she got it. Like, she got her shit together, honey. She's doing it and you just slowly see, like, they're. We're more grown than you think. Like, we got more going on than you imagine? Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Your kids show you a side of them?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They got a whole nother side that we don't get to see.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. And I get it. And I'm my dad's youngest daughter. I'm his baby. I'm the closest one he got to all his kids. And it's like, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
When I realized my daughter had a whole nother personality that she. I don't get to see, I took her to a scissor concert, and she was so engulfed in the scissors, she started singing these lyrics. She was singing the curse words, and I'm looking at her like, like, oh, oh, this. This the real you. Like, she forgot I was there.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
She said.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And I. I was like, oh, okay.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Sister be saying some crazy bruh when she started. I'm looking like your daughter say that, huh? Oh, man.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was like, yo, I'm right here.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's hilarious.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I don't even be tripping off of that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But I'm saying it just messed me up to see her come out of that. Like, she wasn't this little girl no more. She was just, like, vibing and joy. And I was just like, at least
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
she's comfortable to do that in front of you. Right?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But I think the music. She got caught up, though.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, she got caught up. Cause it took me a long time to be comfortable in front of my dad saying stuff, even, like, cursing. Like, I still be kind of on edge with that, but, you know, like, he's. And my dad is 78. Like, we're all grown at this point, you know? But, like, at least, you know, you feel comfortable. It took me a long time to be comfortable with my dad. Cause you just. Especially that age gap, though. I have a huge age gap with my dad, you know, like, he had me at, like, 48. Like, whatever.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Young dad.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Younger to my son than my daughter, though. With my daughter, I was a grown man. I was, like, 32, so I was grown with my son. I was only 21 years old.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So we grew up together.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
He was my practice kid. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
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Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I. What I try to do, I think sometimes if you don't see a little bit of your mom in this woman, if you had a good mom.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Then that's not the woman you want
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
to know what's so cool?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying? That's not the woman. If you don't see a little bit of your mom in her, that's not her. If you had a good mom or. It's the opposite. If you do see a bit of your mom in there and you didn't have a good mom, get out of there. You know what I'm saying? That's always my. That's how I gave you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's so crazy because I was with someone who was like, you remind me of my mom. And at the time, I'm like, I don't want to remind you of your mom. And he was like, that means you're like a wife to me. You don't get that. Like, it's not a, like, negative thing.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, it's not negative at all.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I remind me of my mom because I treat like a wife.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You nurture it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You're nurturing, you're loving, you're caring. I trust you. You have so many characteristics that are like, my mother.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And I was like, oh, okay. Cause at first I'm like, I don't remind you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You're like, mom. Like, you know, that's how I always gauge it. Like, if I don't see a little bit of my mom in you, then I know, okay, you a good time. You not a life. You're not a life partner. You. We gonna have a good time. We gonna kick it, whatever. But I don't look at you as a wife, you know? You a good time.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah. Hey, I wanna kind of go off topic for a second. I wanna talk about, like, when did you move to Los Angeles?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
2012.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
And what made you come?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I had a job. I had a job offer. Cedric the Entertainer got a TV show, and I was on the road with him. I was still living in Miami. He was like, yo, I got this TV show, man. I think you'll be good to be a writer. I was like, what? Dude, I ain't never write nothing. I don't know nothing about no writing for tv. I was like, and I'm a comedian. You know, comedians, usually, we don'. We don't have day jobs, you know, we just work on weekends. And he was like, well, they gonna pay you this much? I was like, well, I tried, you know.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I'll figure it out.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I figure it out.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So I flew out here, got an apartment, went in the writer's room, kept my head down, my ears open, and just, you know, I got a couple people Take me under their wings and showed me the way, and that's how I came out here.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
And what made you want to get into comedy? Cause you always just.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Which is crazy. This is how the universe would line it up. That's why one thing I never worry about, the how. The how's not my okay. It's the will the universe gonna take care of how. You know what I'm saying? How I'm sitting here with you right now is none of my business. You know what I'm saying? So me and my boy went to go see the Kings of Comedy. That was my first comedy show. That's what I was saying. I didn't even know it was no such thing as comedy clubs, right? We wanted to go see the Kings of Comedy. He was like, man, you funny. You should try that. I was like, man, I ain't doing it. He crazy. He's like. Then he told me he going to the military. Where I'm from, nobody went to the military. And he was like, yeah, man, we not doing nothing with our lives. I'm gonna just. You know, I'm gonna just go. I was like, man, yeah, whatever. I said, if you go, I'm gonna try this dude went. He went. So I had to try it. And that's how I ended up doing comedy. I end up meeting D.L. hughley, and then through D.L. hughley, I end up meeting Cedric. And that's how the whole writing and acting and all that came about, man.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn, that's cool. That's dope.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I actually saw that you were on the Neighborhood.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I'm a writer and an actor
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
on there, so, you know Tichina. That's my honor. Aunt Sheena Arnold. Yes. Yeah, that's my girl. That's my aunt.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah. Go hard.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Dope. I love that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know, I always wonder. I want to ask you this, though. Like, being in the industry, right? Hollywood, the glitz and glamour, you probably met so many different stars. You already mentioned, you know, Hughley and said the entertainer. Do you believe. And I know you've probably done auditions for, like. Like, shows, movies, or whatever. Do you believe that in order to get to the top, you gotta sell your soul to actually be, like, a superstar?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't believe that nothing.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
And what I mean by that. Cause there's a lot of people saying you gotta, like, do some crazy shit.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think that's just something. I think that's the new. He. Gay.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, right. That's.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And I always say, like, I can't wait for them to say I'm gay or I'm in the Illuminati. Cause that mean I got that big high. That mean my account is fat. That mean my kids is good. Cause it's like, you notice how they don't never say, he gay until you blow up.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying? Like, even with athletes, soon as you start popping, oh, he gay. It's like, that's the black man, bring him down thing. It's like, I never subscribed to that whole he did this to do. I'm like. Cause to me, it's like, only black people do that. So you trying to tell me ain't no black talented people, none of us talented, we all had to do something gay. Could you imagine how easy it would be if that was just the way to do it? Wouldn't all gay dudes be movie stars? If that's what it took, all the movie stars would be gay. Then it would be all gay dudes just popping. It'd be all gay dudes in the NBA.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
All gay dudes.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But I'm just saying, whatever it is, if that's just the way to do it.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Wouldn't everybody just. You know what I'm saying?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Nah, everybody ain't doing that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, what I'm saying is the dudes that are gay, wouldn't they just be popping? There's a lot of gay dudes out here working warehouse jobs. Wouldn't they just be like, I'm going to laugh.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
There's a lot of them popping, too.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Popping.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
There's a lot of them. That's popping in Hollywood, too.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
True. But what I'm saying is, I don't subscribe into that whole, you do this and then you gonna be a star. Cause here's the funny thing. At the end of the day, the people still gotta want.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So, like, for a comedian, let's just say you do give up your ass or whatever, you still. The people still gotta wanna come see you in that theater, in that arena, in that comedy club. This is just la. Okay, you did this with this one guy. Okay, you did that. But if you go to Cincinnati, is the club gonna be packed? They don't know that guy. Is the guy gonna call Cincinnati? Hey, yeah, y' all go see him. He gave me the ad, so y' all go see him.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
No, it's just that. That they see you blowing up, and then it's like, hold on, you blowing up too fast. Hold on. We gotta have something over their head. Because think about this.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know nobody. That blew up fast, though. I guess they were the women.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Because for the women, the women was performing sexual favors to get certain roles. That's always been, like, a thing.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think that's just business in every industry, I think. You know what I'm saying?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
So why doesn't that hold true for the men?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm not saying it doesn't hold true. What I'm saying is I don't subscribe to the fact that every black man in Hollywood did something gay. I'm just like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It's only a select few super superstars, right? And a lot of people say about them that they've turned the other cheek just to get to where they needed to go.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I can say this or they turned to cheek. I haven't seen it. I can say I haven't seen it. That's all I can say. And I can say I damn sure ain't give up my ass. Cause I ain't done nothing like that. So I ain't pumping like that. But if I had to do that, I would never do that. And I'm too old now, first of all. I'm too mature and grown. I would have done it one of my 20s. So it's not even a conversation now.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But I think when you say sell your soul, I think it's more than giving up your booty hole. I think that I grew up in a celebrity family, so I've been positioned around, really, superstars, right? And I've seen even one of my family members, you know, killed himself, right, very high up there. I won't even name his name. But, you know, a part of that is people saying, like, oh, I sold my soul, right? And I think when people say they sell their soul, it doesn't mean they actually signed some Illuminati contract. I'm selling my soul to the devil. It's just a metaphor that I've done so much shit. Whether that's like watching pedophiles or that's true. Doing this or doing that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was only.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And not. And not saying anything. I might have not even indulged in it.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I agree with that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But I just was like, hey, I'm gonna just turn. I'm not gonna say anything because I don't wanna do that. And I think that happens on a much smaller level.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I agree with that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Like, in my career and even in my lifetime working and working under CEOs, when I was, you know, doing that, it's like, you see A lot of stuff. And I'm a woman and I'm black at that. So for me it's like, there's certain things I would see. Like it's not my business, I'm gonna keep pushing. Cause I'm gonna keep my little job.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think we've all done that at
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
some level or the higher you go, the different levels of what that looks like is. So for me, it might just be me looking at a man CEO having an affair, fucking the assistant, doing this. But on that next high level, it might be Jeffrey Epstein on a damn island eating your sister. Like we don't know what's going on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think that happens again for me. I feel like that happens in every industry, period.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
No, no, no, I don't know nothing about that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, I'm saying business wise, even in your sports, I'm not saying on the court. But you don't think to what she was saying in that executive office, you don't think an assistant saw something. It was like, I'm gonna look the other way. So what I'm saying, it happens in every aspect of business. That's what I'm saying. But to your point, I do think, I'm sure it's people that feel like they sold. They sold. Yes, That I totally agree with. I was just, I thought we was just talking about just the gate.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's part of it though.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But that's part of it.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You come in with a certain, like, this is what you selling, this is what you, what your personality is. This is the roles you feel like you can give. And they like, nah, here, throw this dress on right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, it's like, damn, I never thought I had to do that to get to where I need to go. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think you just gotta be confident with who you are and where you at in your life. Where I'm at right now, I'm cool with whatever comes. If I never become a mega superstar, I'm cool, I'm fine. You know what I'm saying? I got a house, I did. Because I think a lot of people equal success with money. And that's how you end up selling your soul when you start equating it with money. Because success is if you happy doing what you're doing and your bills are paid, you're successful, you can be a successful whatever. So for me, it's like right now I don't drink or smoke. So if a liquor company came, like, we want you to do this ad, I be like, dude, I can't do that. Cause I don't drink. I'm lying, I'm not gonna do it. You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Like, but there's people who. So that's.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They would do it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. It's like, what are you willing to do? Right?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It may take you longer. You might get there still, but it just might be a longer road.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's like, but you'll be happy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. The woman who's like, I want this role, so I'm gonna get on my knees versus a woman who's like, I'm not doing that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, the problem is, that is the problem with that. If you get on your knees for that role, you gonna have to keep getting on your knees.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what people don't realize. They think it's never a one time thing.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But also too, just so you know, even with me, and I'm not even nowhere near successful, like, people are like, they still be like, the only reason she has that is because she looks us away and she's getting on her knees. Even if you're not as a woman, you're gonna be assumed, if you're slightly attractive, you're gonna, they're gonna assume. That's what they gonna say, that you got on your knees to get right here. Like, that's what people still say about me to this day. No matter what job, career, wherever I've been, I've always, even in my career, working, I've always worked under like a CEO and been like a chief of staff in that type of position. And it's like, even in those positions, I'm sexualized all the time. It's always uncomfortable. And yeah, to keep my job, I might not say nothing. I might just keep it pushing and look the other way. Cause it's like, okay, I have to pay my bills, so I'm not gonna do anything, but I have to feel uncomfortable showing up here every day. You know what I mean? Because now I feel like they're gonna say that that's just the price you pay. Trying to be especially a woman in a male dominated field.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I think that's just the price you pay just trying to be successful.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, for sure.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Everything comes with sacrifices. And you know what I'm saying? Whatever it may be, even like right now, let's just say me and P did a podcast and then it popped off. They'll be like, oh, only reason you blew up. Cause you connected to P. Yeah, yeah. So it's like you Always gonna have to deal with that kind of stuff. And it's just like, all right, that's cool. But guess what? But I'm still gonna go to my nice ass house and you're still gonna say all that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
People, I have a podcast with me, people. It's our show. I produce, I do a lot of
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
things, but they say it's his, and
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
they say he does everything. I just come here and I just, like, say, what? Yeah, be pretty. Yeah. And I just. I don't. It's the Paul Pierce show. Paul Pierce podcast. Paul. And like, if I was someone who cared about that, I would feel bad every day. Like, damn, I put so much effort into this. Most of the guests that came on the show is cause me on the grind, trying to get people. But no one gives me credit till this day. The show is Paul Pierce show to the Internet and to everybody else, I'm just like, oh, you could replace me any day. Like, you know what I mean? With another.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But you know that, and that's all that matters.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
He knows what you bring. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I don't care about it. It's not even something I ever bring up because I don't give a damn. That's what people are going to honestly think the whole time.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The way I look at it, man, if people ain't talking about you, then you ain't pop. You ain't popping.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Ain't popping, huh?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You ain't popping.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's what I tell her.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You ain't got no haters. You ain't popping.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If you ain't got no haters, as a woman, you ain't pretty.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Damn, is that real?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Everybody like you, dog. You ugly.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I'm dying. You ugly.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm sorry. If everybody like you as a woman, you. You ugly.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn. Oh, shit.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That is actually wild. That is hilarious.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I can see what you're saying. Haters are just a part of it.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know, like, it's a part of it. And, baby, I have a lot of them. Okay?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That mean you popping, daddy. You know what I'm saying?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
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Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
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Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
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Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
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Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
What is that?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So Rose Sparks is a pill that you take?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Oh, Lord.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah. No, it's actually really, like. It's a big brand.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I don't need it, but
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
it helps you, you know, get it going. You said you only had a few hearts left.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I said I don't know. You know, I ain't trying to waste my heart,
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
so. Look, you ain't gotta waste them no more with Rose Sparks, honey. Okay, so which one? Being right or keeping the peace?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Keeping the peace.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Winning the argument or winning the relationship?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Winning the relationship.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Saying what you feel or saying what won't start a fight.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Saying what I feel.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I like that. Apologizing even when you feel justified or standing on your pride. Oh, I know that's a hard one.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's a. That's a. That's apologizing. Even if I. So you saying I'm not in the wrong, but I'm not.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You're not in the wrong, but, like, it was an intense situation.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm standing on my pride.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, you standing on the Pride.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If I ain't wrong, I'm standing on my pride.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay. Walking away to cool off or talking it out immediately?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Walking away.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Men always pick walking away and women always want to talk.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm a Libra, man. We. Oh, he's a Libra too. We don't like confrontation like that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I knew he was a Libra.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We cool. We just like, hey, man, at some point for me, if I'm arguing with you, if it's going too long, I'd be like you, right? Even if you dead wrong. Cause I'm just like, we not going nowhere.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I knew you were a Libra. When's your birthday?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
October 21st.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay. He's a Libra too.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay. So protecting your ego or protecting your partner's feelings?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what? Here's what's funny about that. Protecting my partner's feelings, if is showing my ego. Cause I'm strong enough to let her get that. You know what I'm saying? I'm strong enough, I'm confident in myself enough to be like. You get that? Go ahead. If it makes you feel good and you cool. Cause you need that. Go ahead.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay. Letting the small things slide or addressing everything.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I address everything. Cause to me, small things are the biggest reason relationships don't work. Big things are big things are big things. Small things is what leads to, like, disrespect and certain things. So I don't let small things slide because that's how things get out of hand.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But then you just said that you like to avoid confrontation as a Libra, so how do you balance that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's not. If I'm just telling you something now. Once you react, how you react, that's the confrontation.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, so you feel like I'm still gonna address it, though.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I'm gonna address it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I agree with that. But I think as a woman, where we struggle is like, I wanna address small things. Cause I'm like, you know, it's little things that could just be corrected, that doesn't have to build resentment. But then you don't wan. Like when you bring it to a man, he's like this. She always got something to say. There's always something every day. But it's like, I just want to get these little things off so we can like. Because it's sometimes small things that make you feel like, damn, does this person love me? Like, it's small.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But I had this woman I was talking to, she used to always say, shut up all the time. I don't do shut up.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn. Shut Up.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Shut up is crazy.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And it was small to her, but to me it was just like, hey, I don't, you know, whatever you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's disrespectful.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, I don't do. Shut up, bro. Don't tell me to shut up. And we was joking. It was a joking thing.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
And then she said.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was like, nope, I don't do that. I don't do that. Damn. And then she thought it was like. I was like, you know, I like you, so I want this to work. I don't wanna. I don't do. Shut up, bro. Like, don't tell me to shut up, man.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I can't. I don't even think I know the last time somebody even said that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what I'm saying. But even though it wasn't a joking man, I'm like, just like some women. You know how we be. Like, a lot of people say bitches. Some women be like, that's how I am.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Don't call me no bitch.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what I'm saying. Even in sex. Don't know. And I'm like, cool. I respect that. Let me know.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Even though it's weird because I let a man be like, this is my bitch. I don't mind that because it's the LA thing. I'm from la. But don't just be like, you're a bitch. You're like, bitch, you got me up. Like, that's.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
It's the tone.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's the tone. You could be like, that's my bitch.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's the content.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Cause it's just, I'm from la. It's the nature of it. But don't. Don't ever just be like, bitch.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I had a chick, she used to tell me, only time call me. That is when we having sex. That's it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't even want to be called that during sex. I don't think that's what I'm saying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
People have different things, baby.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Let's get into that. Unless it's like, I don't know. Okay, so being honest, even if it hurts, or keeping the vibe.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Calm me being honest.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Or her. Like, do you prefer someone to just be honest? Like, baby, you're not making me come at all.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Keep the vibe. Keep the vibe. Women see women. Honesty be hurting though, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But what if it's like, so then how do you fix that? So I'm supposed to live a life satisfied?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Find a way to get it to tell me without being. Just say, like, find a way.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Put on a movie and let the movie tell me. I don't know, put on a song.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But what if you're not getting it? Then you're like, hey, babe. Like.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I know, but what I'm saying is at least try first.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, so you don't want a woman to come up to you and be like, listen. What if it's like, listen, baby, and it's so sweet and soft.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Here's when it hurts. If it's somebody you. If it's just some random. I don't care.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, someone you love.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It hurt.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, it does. It hurts. If even a man says something.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Keep the vibe.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Keep the vibe.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But I want to know. I'm going to be honest.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Find a way.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
If no, you could tell me it's going to hurt, but I rather do it right and learn how to do what you like. Period, point blank. I rather have that hurt. In the short term, if you're sexual.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm always. Now I'm second guessing everything.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, but think about this. That leads to other things in the relationship.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Now I got to take the. What's it called? I got to take the. Now I gotta call Pete. I need a body.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, so I get that. Okay, so being understood or being loved?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Being loved. Because then I think they'll have patience with you. If they love you, the understanding will come and they accept you as is. Okay, because somebody could understand you. To not love you because they understand you is why they don't love you. Like, I know who he is and I don't want no parts of that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
The under the love. You're more understanding when you love someone.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yes. It comes from. It comes.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I got one. Okay, what you like a. Any or Audi?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You talk about belly button.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What is it?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know. I thought I was belly button.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I thought that's a belly button too. When it's out.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Or it's in.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what you talk about. All right.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Eddie or Audi?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Nah, I ain't answering that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't know what is that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If you're not talking about belly. But I don't know what we talking about.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Talking about belly, butt.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Oh, then I don't know what we talking about then who we talking about.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know what we talking about.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The anal.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
No, no. On a girl. Oh, to any or outie. On a girl.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What is that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm still not sure.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Can we cut lips on our lips?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know. I don't know.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What is an innie or out?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, yeah, a innie or outie.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like you Mean leave it in or pull.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Oh, you know, girls have innies and outies.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
They're belly button.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What do you have?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I have an innie belly button. I don't know what you're talking about.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I don't even know the reference to belly button. What about you talking about, like, the clitoris?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
The clitoris.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Oh, I don't even know what I have. I'm not gonna answer that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
On your answer.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I didn't know. It could be if it's too far out, like. No, no. Yeah, that's like a small pe. Know, like.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Nah, just flapping, hanging out. Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Nah, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's like circumcised or uncircumcised.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You guys don't know nothing about that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know nothing about that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Oh, my goodness. No, I don't know nothing about that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't know nothing about that either, but it's a thing. Okay, well, thank you for that. If prescribed, new sexual health patients get $15 off their first order of sparks. On a reoccurring plan, connect with the provider at Ro Co Tad to find out if prescription rose sparks are right for you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What's your relationship status right now?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know, I'm out here. Huh. I'm outside.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Outside. You see me? I don't like it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You don't like it?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Nah, man.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You dating.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm a want to come home to something, you know what I'm saying? I know what it is. I need an emergency contact.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I feel that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I need somebody I can call all if things is crazy and I know it's handled.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What's the dating scene like for you here? It's la.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't really. I don't know what dating is like that for real, but I don't date like that. I can't go out with three different chicks in a week. I don't have that Cost too much.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That costs a lot.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Just the cost. Cause I'mma forget what one said and then bring an old conversation to the new one.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Be like, oh, you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Oh.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Oh, you not the one who was allergic to selfish. My bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't. You know how much other stuff we got going on in our lives, though? I can't really remember what. Oh, you don't eat red meat. All right. Damn. I can't. So, like, if connection happened and it's genuine and it's cool, great. But all that trying to court three different people and, like, ain't doing none of that.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You at Peace then right now I ain't doing nothing.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He said he wants. You want to be in a relationship?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I want to be married. Okay. Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm not with the whole single like.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Nah, dog, you not with none of that shit.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I say it again. You was married?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was married and then got divorced. I messed that one up. How long? Ready for my second marriage. You know, here's the crazy thing. Me and my ex wife was together for like 26 years. 27 years, married four.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know, how do you together 26 years, married for four.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know, he never got married and then we got married. Nah, I messed it up. Yeah, it was me. I was out here just dumb.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Okay, so when you moved.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Matured. Good.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Okay, so when you moved from Miami, you was married? Yes.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, no, I wasn't married yet.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
So you got married?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I was going back as far as with her though. I was with her. Yeah, we was together since she stayed in Miami. She stayed in Miami with my kids. I came out here cause we was like, well, we don't know what this gonna be, you know, TV shows coming go, you know what I'm saying? So. And then she had her family, she didn't want to come out here and not know anybody. So I just did the back and forth thing for a long time, which I think had a lot to do with the marriage not working because I had a lot of free time.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right. So damn, 26 years.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So now you, you're ready to get married again?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I'm not ready to get married today, but I'm saying, yeah, I'm not, I'm not anti marriage at all.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Do you want to have more kids?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, no more kids. That's a deal breaker.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You have two kids, right? A daughter and a son.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's a deal breaker. Like I, I prefer to date with a woman. I date women that don't even have a uterus. I don't even want no slip ups.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Don't even have a uterus.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, no, no, I'm saying like, like that's a deal breaker for me, you know, kids.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
So that's why you like older women then.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So I like older women or a woman that got kids or a woman that don't want kids. So like to me that would have to be discussed early.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's like a first thing before appetizers come out.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Hey, where you at on kids?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Kids before advertising?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, because that's gonna change how much I let you order if you want kids. Well, now you gotta slow down. Cause this is our last time talking.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. So hold on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So you can't be ordering crazy. I'm not gonna see you no more.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know what? I think that's good. I think asking like, do you want marriage? Do you want kids? Because if someone wants kids and you don't, that's a dub. If someone wants marriage and you don't, that's a dub.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Why waste your time?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, well, I'm gonna let you all. Exactly.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Kobe state this tomahawk. And I'm not gonna see you no more. Girl, you better get the little.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Those are deal places.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Popcorn shrimp. And get you a salad. You know what I'm saying? Popcorn shrimp. I'mma feed you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Cause we here she go from steak to popcorn shrimp.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, yeah. Cause you. We don't want the same thing. Your baby daddy need to buy you the Tamara.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, I'm crying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm not a. I'm not trying to be a baby daddy.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Oh, my God.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying? I was a husband. I was a dad. I don't want to be a baby dad.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
There's a difference in a baby daddy and being a husb. Husband or a wife or a baby mama. I said that last time. He disagrees with that. It's a serious difference.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's great. Baby mamas. I'm not.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, no, it's great. People could be great, but it's what your preference is. Like, you don't want to be a baby daddy. You were a husband. Yeah, I don't want to. Like, people don't want to be a baby mama. They rather be a. Like, it's just a.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
This generation want baby mama.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I don't want to be a baby mama.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Some of them do. Some of them want multiple baby daddies.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I sat at a table with some girls.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's checks. It's checks.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They want the check.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Women wanna get the check.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
They just want the check.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. We're not saying women don't want that. Women do that every day.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But here's the thing. I don't even fault the women at some point. Cause like, especially in your field, P. I'm sure you've seen it. These dudes be having all this money, and they begin with a girl that had kids from three other celebrity dudes. And you be the fourth baby daddy. You the dummy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Or they slip up.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You the dummy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Men literally slip up with these women and they be. That's. You're a check.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what she do.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Women will literally have a Baby. With a man they're not even in a relationship with just to get a check.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But who's that? That's on him.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's on him.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's on him.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, that's his fault. You're sloppy. Why are you just sloppy? You thirsty?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You lame?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's on you 100%. Because it's like, why are you just loose out here like that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I never blame the first dude. Like, if you the first baby daddy and you the athlete, okay? Cause you ain't know. But if you're the third athlete, baby daddy. Come on, dog.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Damn.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Come on, dog.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
For that woman, that's on you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The same woman.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Or if you're having casual sex, you
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
go to her house, she got four jerseys on the wall.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I'm dead. Or you're having casual sex with a woman you don't plan on being with Raw.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
What are you doing?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What are you doing? Because at the end of the day, you know what these women are in it for? Like, and she don't work and she don't work. Or she's just like, you know, she's thirsty, she's trying to be in the mix. And at the end of the day, it's like, for me, I'm like, we gotta do better. Because so many women want that check. And to me, I seen one of these girls who has a bunch of baby daddies that are athletes and rappers, and she was like, the check ain't even worth it at the end of the day. Cause I'm over here stressed out. I got this kid, and I don't have a man. Like, I'm in the household alone, and
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
the checks cut off. They go down.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
The checks go down.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But if he not like somebody who's smart, who invested their money, once he out to leave, phew, then there's ways
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
now, you know, there's ways now that you can. People be moving money around, putting in someone else's name, acting like, like you
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
said, you got more kids. The check go down.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. So it's like you doing all of this, but then there's also women who just. There's women who want kids because they want to make their kid or their son like, my king, my world. You're my everything. You're my valentine. You're my. They want to get that love from something because they want to fill a void. I know people like that. I know friends like that that have kids to fill a void because they're like, I want love and I'm lonely. Or I reached a certain age and I don't have a kid, so any who get me pregnant.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And let me be an athlete. Let me be someone who got money. I'm really having that baby with you or without you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, I'm stereotyping right now. I'm just speaking off the cuff. I think sometimes that comes from women that don't have a solid relationship with their father. So they trying to get genuine love from a man any type of way, even if it's their son.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yes.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying? So they hold on to their son. But I think women who have a solid relationship with their father don't really move like that, you know what I mean? So. And that's another thing too.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I mean, it depends.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Dating a woman that don't have a solid relationship with her father sometimes can be hard.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I've heard those things. I've heard that I have a good relationship with my dad. So I wouldn't know my parents are still married.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But so you totally different.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Right. But I wouldn't know what the difference is. But I've heard men say, like, woman without father. Someone said that. I forgot who it was, but they literally came on our podcast. I think it was Carlos Miller or someone. But they were saying women without fathers, you can tell the difference when you date.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, sometimes you can tell the difference because the. And it's sad. And again, I'm just generalizing. Sometimes the self esteem is not as where it should be. You know, they get manipulated a lot because sometimes they just don't know what that genuine love is like. So, you know, I mean, it's like they could get played easily.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But it depends.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's not that. And I'm not saying that's across the board. I'm just talking, you know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Because I know a lot of women without fathers that I think are incredible women. And they are like, they do show up in certain ways because it's about the work that you do for yourself because you can have a father. Like I have a father who's present, but my father is at the end of the day, a man. And he's 78. Do you think my father knew how to be vulnerable and express how much he loved me at 78? No.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You don't realize it, but just the presence alone makes a difference.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I could say that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I can believe that just the presence of him being there makes a whole lot.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. I mean, I have a present, present father. So I can say like, my dad was there my whole life. Life. He's still there right now. Like still text me, I love you baby girl.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You and that and that matters.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He'll tell you. Cuz guess what?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
If he don't for a while, you're gonna be like, uh huh.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. My dad don't play. My dad has like always been a provider and a protector. So I will be like honest. Like my dad set the standard of like listen, if it's never been about. My dad always taught me too. Like it's like it's. If a man is doing something for you, there's always a price you have to pay, right? So when I was young, I remember I came home with some red bottoms one time from a man and that was red bottoms cracking. My dad was pissed and he, he's like, what do you think you have to do for that, right? And I was like, no, I didn't do anything. He was like, no, no, no, you will.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He was like, don't, don't, don't.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because you want another pair?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. My dad checked me in that moment and that's why I don't ask for anything from a man. I'm not like, can you do this for me? Can you get this for me? Can you? I'm not like that. Like if you said you're going to help me, you're willing to do something that's cool and I, and I appreciate it and I'm going to try to pay it back in any way that I can, but I'm not going to be out here begging desperately.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You also not in time. Entitled.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. No, I'm not entitled. I'm not, I don't, I'm not entitled at all. But I think like you said, I think there are women who don't have present fathers that have done the work, that have done what it takes to feel like, you know, I have that love. Because you can have both parents present and you can still lack the self love and the confidence because they may,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
they just may be present, they may
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
not be active, they may not be active, you know, and even if they are, there's always things even as me as a woman, I lack, lacked confidence. I have insecurities and these are things that I constantly work on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think we all suffer from some kind of lack of confidence in one area of life or another. We all, we all walk around here macho and I mean everybody when they home alone and they sit down, we got a little something that we insecure about or not confident about. You know, I think that's just human nature. Ain't nobody walking around here. Just super, super, you know, just manly, man. Ain't nothing gets to me like, yeah, whatever, bro. You hiding something.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You hiding something.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We all vulnerable somewhere, dog.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, for sure. That. For sure. I want to get back to this dating thing. Malik, you said, like, I'm thinking, like, you don't date a lot. It's not like that. But, like, how do you even meet women?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Online, I guess it's just. No, I. I don't. Can't do the online thing, man. I'm old school, bro. I just gotta. It just gotta happen.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Do you still approach women out?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what? Even with that, I don't approach women like that. Like I said, it just gotta happen.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I think you have to.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, what I'm saying is it gotta just be like. It just has to happen like in a. In a natural state, because I'm a funny person. I can always kind of break a ice, but it has to be in the light. Like, I won't see you at the gas station and run up on you while you pumping gas. Just. I feel like that's invasive and, you know, you might be scared or whatever, but if we're in a function, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You doing a show while you at the bar or something.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And I see her repeatedly. Like, for me, I'm not one of them person. I see somebody one time be like, ooh.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But you know what?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That happens, though.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's the problem, though, because for me, it's like, I feel like I've noticed that there's a lack of men and other women notice this too, that, like, approach women, and I think the shot down hurts. No, it hurts. And I know rejection hurts. But you know what's crazy? That I feel like men. You gotta get over that rejection. Because you know why men get rejected? When they come to you and they're like, hey, what's up? And you might be like, no, women get rejected after they give you their entire soul. And then you're like, nah, I'm cool on you. Women get in a relationship and give you their whole life. You get to know me and then you decide, I'm cool.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
This ain't.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, I don't want to relate to relationship. This really ain't working. I like, women get rejected on a way higher level that we don't speak about. After we've done bared our soul and you got to know me, you then decided you didn't want me. You know how much more that hurts versus you coming up to a woman and just being like, nah, I'm cool, I have a man. Or I'm not interested, right? Because even now it's like, I'm out and obviously, like, I'm not interested in anybody, but like, I'm out. And men, like, they're so on me. Like if I go to the store, but they stare so hard and they will never like, just come up. Like it was like.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because it looks intimidate. Let me tell you how sometimes it's intimidating. So back when I was living and I was going back and forth, right, My ex wife told me this story. So she had her ring on. Yeah, it's crazy how. And dude ain't care she coming out the grocery store. And back then I had a jeep wrangler, but I white boyed it out, big tires, lift, had the lights and everything. So dude just kept talking, walking her out. And then she say when she got to the Jeep and that's when he was like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm good. Cause he figured, like, she clearly got a man something going on. Like, I don't want no problems. And I think sometimes men, like, either they don't care or they too shy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But that's the thing. It's like, men gotta get out of that and be like, it's so now that men don't do that, I feel like more women tell me how attractive it is for a man to actually come up and have the confidence to be like, hey, how are you? Like, yeah, I'm all.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But it's so hard. Again, the algorithm is in everybody's. It's so hard when you see these girls be so mean and so rude and so disrespectful. You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But that's just not. Because then what they'll do is like, literally, I was at the grocery store yesterday and so many men just kept staring. And my homegirl was like, damn, these men are on you. But obviously I'm not interested, so I'm not giving them no play. But it's just like, it's way more uncomfortable and awkward that you keep staring at me. Follow me around, getting in the car, I'm out my. Now it's starting to give. Like stalker. Like, you rather just come up and I'll tell you, like, oh, no, I'm taking. Or like, I'm not interested. But all of this, like, staring follow me around. I'm looking inside now I'm getting nervous.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, you gotta understand.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Crazy.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You gotta understand too, because that. That even happens to me. Not. Not. They trying to holla at me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Sometimes I think, where me and you at, we not Paul yet.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get what you say.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So sometimes they be like, like, know her.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They may not be trying to holler, because I get that a lot. Dudes be looking at me, and I'll be thinking, like, man, what are we doing?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What's going on?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, we.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They'd be like, you. You the dude.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know what I'm saying here?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I ain't thinking, like, he won't smoke.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Dude trying to figure out where he know me from.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But this is them definitely, like, on it. Because you could tell the energy of a man, like, staring you up, and it's like, gets uncomfortable because it's like, just say it. And then I could let you know,
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
like, hey, but then again, sometimes, maybe he wanted to just live in that. You know what I'm saying? Maybe. Let me just take my baby with me.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Nah, I'll tell you what it is. This is what it is. If a man is following you, he kind of looking what he doing. It's like predator and prey, right? You know what I'm saying? How if you ever watch the Animal channel, you see the lion stalking the prey. He waiting for that moment. It might be a moment like, you know what? She at the register or she right there. I don't really want to go up to her, but when she hit this. Over here, over here. Okay, all right, let me go. This is the right spot.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause you can find something to break the ice with.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But if you notice, like, it was like, register, right? We're at the register. I'm with my homegirl. So I'm like, okay. I hope he doesn't say nothing. Right? So then I go. And then he's, like, lingering. So I'm like, oh, wait a minute. I'm just making up. Let's go to the kettle right here. And so we, like, go the opposite direction. And then he's waiting over here. I'm like, yo. You could see I'm literally trying to like the interaction.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think sometimes it's harder for a man to shoot a shot with another girl there, too. If it's one on one, he probably would have shot it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But it be one. Listen, I go outside every day, and it does this every day. And then you know what else happens? I go outside, I do this, and then I'll see, like, my Little message request. Hey, I didn't want to say anything to you, but you're beautiful. I saw you in Whole Foods. I saw you. Whatever.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause that's safe.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
How they know you, though.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
So that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
They do know you. That's what I'm telling you. You know what I'm saying? Like, they know who I am, like. And then that's another breaking ice where men, oh, I know you from this. Oh, well, what's up? Like, you know, that's how they try to play it, too.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And it's like, some dudes don't have personality, though. You gotta understand, if you don't have personality, they don't know how to. Really. Cause if they do know you, that is the icebreaker. Yo, what you and Pete doing? I love y' all podcast. Now you talking. You know what I'm saying? But some people don't know how to.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
He fumbled. He. Like, the grocery store is the easiest spot. If you want to. It's the easiest spot, especially at the register.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because you could just be, like, in the aisle.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You could just be like, damn. You know what I'm saying? Let me cook you up something. You know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Or you can even look at her basket. You can look at her basket. I don't like those. I don't like those.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's better.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But a man talking about, let me cook you up so that I'm gonna ask you. If you don't get away from me, I'll be cool on that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But what I'm saying is, you don't
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
like spaghetti by the mask.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You be like, you know, those don't really. You know what I'm saying? You should get these. Now you talking. And here's the thing. For me, like, this is what I always know. And I used to tell my girl this before. Cause she used to be like a big. Like, I just want to be nice. And I just want to, like, always smiling and this. I'm like, hey, man, stop smiling. A smile to a man. Mean. Like, come on, pull up.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, I'm going to say this, though, because I was like that, too, at one point. And I remember, like, getting checked. Like, hey, you smiling.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
All that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And you're vibing, like, relax, right? So I'm more like. Now, like, mean or whatever, right?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You don't have to be mean, but
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
it's kind of like express is more like dry.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Don't come over.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Come right near me.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Exactly.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But at the Same time. Like, women also. And I know men don't like to believe this, but women have a fear, too. Like, I stopped. I've told a man, like, hey, nah, I'm cool. Like, because you're doing too much. And it's in a real cool way, right? And they're like, what? Like, fuck you too then, bitch. Like, you know what I mean?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You're like, you gotta check your environment. If it's just you and a dude outside, nobody else around, smile and get to your car.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to be cool sometimes because some of these men get mad and they hate that, being rejected. So then they start to, like, get all, like, crazy. So, like, sometimes you do have to be like, no, I'm so sorry. Like, because I even had a man be like, why are you sorry? But you sorry that you in a relationship. Like, you shouldn't be sorry.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm a comedian. You gotta be like, I'm pregnant, okay? Or you gotta be like. Or just lie. You don't want this.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Man will be like, okay, that's cool. I heard the pregnancy. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's how men are these days. Oh, you gotta. Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah. Men are.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I'm good.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You gotta lie. You gotta make some crazy stuff up.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Cause even if you're like, I got a man. Okay, well, do you got. You can't have friends.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what you gotta say?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
You can't have no friends.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I gotta turn myself in tomorrow.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You talking about young shit.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I gotta turn myself in.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I gotta turn myself in. So what happens?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
The old school one is like, I'm a lesbian, but they don't care.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Oh, that don't even work no more.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
They don't even care no more. They cool. Perfect.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I'm a lesbian, too.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, bring your girlfriend. We can all get a crack.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We all can eat together, man.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Come on. Old school lyrics.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, they old school, but it's still old school. Like, men out here, but I feel like younger. I think the younger men are now getting more into the older women, too, now.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Have you noticed that?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, it's always that. That. It's. It's always that dynamic. If you're a younger man, you want an older woman. If you're an older man, you want a younger woman.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's always been that dynamic. I don't think that's gonna ever change. You know what I mean?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's how it is. Till you get that young girl and you older and you find a Not like, this little girl getting on my damn nerves. Yeah, she on TikTok all day.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Right, right. You be over it. I can't do no younger man, though. I think that it's just too much of a.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's cause you still young. What, you 34?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Clock it.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
That's not young, though.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know when women start getting younger men, when they like 40, then she'll get a 26 year old, be like, boy, this little boy fun.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Because he's just a boy to it.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's what I'm saying.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
But you see, it ain't nothing serious.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right. She 34. So right now you looking for an older man. But when women get older, they like, I just need something to have fun with.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I feel like no pill. He ready.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He don't gotta take no pills.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
I think they looking at the women the same way too, though. A young dude, they like the young men is looking at the older woman.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's always true, though.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
But how they looking at him?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, Jalen Green is in a whole relationship with Draya. Booed up, kissing at the courtside, running to her when she wins. Family kid. Like, there's a lot of men who actually take younger men, who take older women serious because they feel like they lucked up. They're like, wow, I got with a prize. She's nurturing, she's loving.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Scary thing about when it's depending on how the age gap is.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's scary. I don't know.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Because at some point she's gonna be 60.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
He's still gonna be young.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That dynamic changes.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It will. It will at times 65.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And her mind frame is 65. Yeah, he's still.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Well, I'm scared because I feel like the women who do, the younger men, Men mature so much slower than women scientifically. Right. Like, it took me to see my dad and my sister's husband, who was like 50 something, and he's still hitting it and looking young. And I'm like, wait a minute. I thought by that time y' all would be ready to like, sit it down, but it's not. And so I realize that now, and I'm like, how can I be with someone? Like, I have a nephew who's like 27.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I have a great nephew. You know what I mean? Like, I can't look at no young boy and be like, ooh, like, I taught my nephew how to drive. Like, that mind meant, like, the age difference is weird to me. I'm like, I don't relate to you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It depends where the Age difference is too where the age gap is. Cause it's weird because 19 and 30 looks crazy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Oh, it looks crazy.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
30 and 40 is like, okay, 30
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
and 40 is cool. You could be like 15 years apart from someone. But if it's like 35 and 50, that's cool. What's up?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Whatever.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But if you like it's 20 and
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
35, you like, this is crazy.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
What y' all got to talk about? 20 year old dog.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
As long as the woman's over 30, the man can be any age.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The man can be any age. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm looking at Al pacino, but at 60 and 30, it looks creepy to me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Right?
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, you gotta start looking at some of these sports owners.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No, I know, but it's creepy though.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And you know why the woman is with her, right?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But they know too though.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, they know. We all know. You ain't finding real love at that point. She don't love you.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Look at Bill Belichick, he know what it is. He don't care.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
They waited for you to die to collect that check. That's it. Imagine being with someone who's just waiting on you. Like, that's sad. So.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Well, for them young girls, to me, like some, I don't know, Bill Belichick situation, but I don't think they married. She's the fool if she's not married because he. She ain't gonna get nothing.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Right. That's true. And it's so funny cuz I was Talking to a 23 year old girl yesterday, right? And she, I asked her, I was like, what do you like? Cuz she's 23, so she thinks I'm old as hell. So she's like, yeah, like I'll date older. And I'm like, what's the older you'll date? She's like, 32, 30. I'm like, girl, she was like, that's 10 years older than me. And she's like, that's older. And I'm like, so do you. And she real pretty girl, like influencer hitting. And I'm like, do you like older men? She was like, no. Like me and my friends, we date older men if they can just pay for things. Like, but we're disgusted. Like we'll send each other pictures of how they look and how tired they be. And we be like clowning them like we don't want no 40. And they think 40 is old.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They're like 40 year olds this generation.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, the 23, she's like, the 40 year olds, like we make fun of them and we be this and like thinking, oh, we be sending Viagra ads to each other saying you're mad. Like we just clown them. And then we have a young man on the side, you know, and we just use him for money. So it's like older men are getting played. And just so you know, them 23 year olds think 40 is old. They think 34 is old, cuz they think that's 12 years older than me.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I think it all depends too, because while the 23, 3 year old thinks she's playing the older man, depending what kind of money that older man has, he like, girl, I'm playing you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
He's just having fun. I'm buying Y as long as he knows he's buying booking info.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, booking info.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I'm crying.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
This little money I be having in
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
my dresser jar, girl, they happy with $500 a week.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, this ain't no money.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Like, yeah, I gave her $500, give
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
me a little $1,500 a month, get
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
her hair done, nails done, four, five
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
times a month, girl, I don't care.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, it depends.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You think you winning, you think you winning, you're not winning.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Facts. I think that it depends though, but if you're looking for love in that age and you really want to be with someone and don't be lonely when you die, that ain't it, my brother.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yeah, well, that's the thing about love. Sometimes women get caught up. The thing is the thing about dating a rich man as a woman who's not rich. Yeah, sometimes they think like, oh, girl, I got this rich man, he bought me a bag, he bought four other bags. You ain't nothing, girl, you ain't nothing. When he bought that Chanel, he took the whole rack. He was like, give me all four of them. I'm just giving these out, right? You ain't special. Now when a regular man buy you a Chanel bag, he's special. That man love you. That man put work in, he did overtime. But they don't understand that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
No, I always say that. I always say you'll prefer the rich man who has endless money to give you 500 than the man who gave you 100. And he don't got it like that. But he's hard for that little 100.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
He didn't even got it.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I always say that because even my dad taught me that. Because it's like you, you are spending this money and I see you blow money all the time. It's nothing to you. So you doing this for me doesn't really mean as much to you. It's like, okay, here you in rotation, whatever. You in rotation with the next person. You know what I mean? And I. That's real to me. It's like, I rather someone put real energy and investment.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Now, if you happen to fall in with somebody that's rich, great. Cause we don't nobody want to struggle.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But I think when women go out, I think women who only target rich men, they never end up with a rich man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's true. And you know what?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
They get hit, they get smashed by a rich man, but they never end
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
up with a rich man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But you know what else you have to look at how you got the girl too, right? Because if you're a rich man, and as soon as you hollered at her, she was going. And she never was like, nah, I'm cool. Or like, made you work for it a little bit or was like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not interested. Like, if a woman never did that, she just goes for any man that's rich because you're r the qualifications.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And vice versa.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, and vice versa.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
When a man. If you meet a woman and you trying to take her shopping the next day, you already let. Let her know what this relationship gonna be.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Exactly.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You ain't even letting her like you.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, you leading with your money.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You're trying to buy her. You leading with your money. So when she do you dirty, you can't be like, oh, nah, nah, dude, you took her shopping after Y' all met 12 hours ago. You didn't even let her like you. You let her like your money. Like I remember. Like, I. I would. If I have two cars. If somebody don't know me and we going on the first date, I'm driving the lesser car. I always drive my lesser car on the first date, you know what I'm saying? Because I don't want you to, you know what I'm saying? To just. Even though I'm not saying that the person may be that. But I'm gonna come as simple as possible, you know what I'm saying? Until I let you know what I really. Who I really am or whatever. Like, if somebody don't know, I ain't saying nothing.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Till it come about. So what do you do? Oh, well, I'm. Oh. Cause then I was like, okay, then you was rocking with me, right? You know what I'm saying? Not what you think I am or what you think I can be. You know what I'm saying, so a lot of dudes, we lead with money, and then they get mad at the
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
woman, and women lead with sex, and they be naked on the Internet, and they mad that he want to you. But that's just the. That's the. And I don't get why these women have this entitlement. Back to what you were saying, because, like, you said, women on the first date are like, do this for me. Do that for me. I don't get where women even have the confidence to ask that. Like, I'm embarrassed.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, right.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Even with my own man, I'd be. I'd be embarrassed to be like, I need help with something. Because it's like, I don't want to be a burden. I don't want to feel that way. So I don't get how women can go on a date and be like, I need this. I need this. I need that. Like, don't you feel crazy? Like, why don't you feel like that's wild?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Like, they don't feel like.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That feels crazy for me. It's crazy for me to even ask someone I'm in a relationship and be vulnerable enough to be like, hey, I'm really struggling, or this is happening. I have a hard time doing that. And when. And sometimes you should be vulnerable. But it's like, how can you have. Like, how can you just have the confidence to do that with somebody you don't even know? Like, that's weird to me. I just don't ever. I never understood that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It ain't nothing but a Karen.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, it's a Karen.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a form of Karenism.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Because they were dated outside your race.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
No.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Never?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Never.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Why not? Smash?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Yes. Dated. No.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Why not?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't know. It's just. I'm not anti. But I prefer black women. I prefer black women. I'm not anti. Anything can happen. But I don't see me shooting my shot at some, like, a white woman. If we happen to. To your point, we in the gym together all the time. We work somewhere together, and you always around him, and y' all start building a relationship, like. And then you. You look up, you like, damn, I'm. I like her. But for me to just shoot my shot at the grocery store at a white woman, Never gonna happen.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
It's funny. Cause Carlos Miller. Did you see what he just said? Carlos was on this lady's podcast. Her name is, like, Les. I think she has a. She's a white woman, and she's like, six. Five or six.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Oh, yeah. I Saw that.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. And she was like, why don't you date white women? Why don't you prefer white women? And he was like, white women are a liability. He was like, y' all start crying in public now.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
We did something wrong. And da, da, da. He's like, I don't want a white woman. Like, I. I want a black woman.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I just feel like for me, culture wise, it's just.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's what he said too.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's just easier. Like, it's more comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I happen to say the N word, I don't gotta feel awkward about it. You know what I'm saying? The food, you know, it's just. And then visually, I just. I'm more attracted to black women. But again, I'm not anti white. I'm just more attracted to black women.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
That's good to hear from a black man. Cause I feel like right now we're in a close climate where so many men are like, don't be with black woman. Be with this woman. Be with that woman.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
And to hear them dudes is lame and they hate their moms.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Tony Baker just said something too. He was like, I want to know why so many men hate women. Like, what happened to y' all to hate black women in that.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Here's my thing with the black black man dating a white woman thing. I don't have an issue with it. You want to date a white woman,
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
but don't bash black women.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
But why you have to. Because I never see. I never see a white that's dating a black girl be like, I don't date white women because of this. They just date a black girl.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
100%. I say this all the time.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I don't understand why you can't just date the white woman and just be happy with her. Why you gotta knock black women? Cause you like the white woman. Just like the white woman.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, don't knock another Black women when you want to say this woman is better because they do this or they do this or they care more about this. It's like when black women are actually very loyal to their men. They step by their side, but you
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
never see it the other way. I never seen a white boy be like, well, white women ain't this. White women ain't that. They just date a. They was just like, I fell in love with a black woman, period.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
And that's what we need to do more of. Just date who you date. We don't care. We don't need the story behind It. I don't care. Yeah. Just love who you love.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Cause you're not changing my mind.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah. Cause I'm still going to love.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I like my black woman.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Come on.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
That's so 17 black women's gonna hurt me in a row. I'm finna let us 18 one hurt me.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Okay, I heard that because I love to. No, you don't understand how, like, great that is for me, being a black woman and seeing the climate we're in. And every time I scroll on the Internet, it's something about why we're not good enough or we're not the most desired.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's popular.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yeah, it's popular and it hurts.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Black is popping right now, and here's
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
coming from our own black men. Like, we get it from other races every day. But hearing it from your own black man is the most hurtful thing. And men don't understand that. And then you hear it and you hear it and you hear it, and it really breaks your confidence as a woman. And as a black woman, you're like, damn. And I don't even have. I'm only half black, so I can't even imagine, like, someone who's full black and what they're going through. So it's just. It really.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It good to hear that in America. Ain't no half black.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Thank you. Thank you, America. People like to say I'm not black all the time.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
The government like you black.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Exactly.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We going to send you like you black.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
100% sure. We can't go.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We can't give you two sentences this year. Why?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
But I say that because the Internet always wants to say, like, I'm not black. I'm not blacks. But I agree with that. 100. Because I feel like a black woman, and I'm out here like a black woman. And I'm offended when people talk about black women. It hurts.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
I mean, I'm offended when people talk about black women because I got a black daughter.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Come on now. Hello.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know what I'm saying?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
I love to hear that. I love to hear that. Well, we're so grateful that this was dope, man.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
We gotta do this again. Yeah, y' all fun.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
What's going on? What's up? What's going on? Anything you want to get out there? You want to tell the people, man?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You know, if you want to follow me on all socials, it's Malik S comedy on everything. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all that good stuff. My comedy Special is on YouTube right now. Malik S. Malik S is called Laughing Voodoo. If you just type Malik as laughing voodoo. Pop right up. It's freeze on YouTube. We put it on YouTube because everybody got YouTube, right?
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Yep. And we will have all that information linked below his at his special so you guys can access it easily and follow him.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
The la. You got to check him out. He fun. I'm not just saying that, but he's actually really, really funny.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
You heard it from the truth.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
Yeah, for sure.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
Y' all got a good. I like. I like. Y' all good bounce energy, man. It's a good balance.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Thank you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
You know what I'm saying?
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
It's a good. It's a good balance, man.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Thank you. Thank you so much. We appreciate that. And thank you for coming. And thank you guys for tuning into Truth After Dark. We love y'.
Malik S (standup comedian and guest)
All.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Make sure you subscribe, like, comment, all that jazz. Love you.
Co-host or secondary guest (male, conversational partner with Malik S)
We love y'. All. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
Host (female, possibly Megan McCardell or a similar podcast host)
Do you think that men or women are more toxic?
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Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder.
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay (Truth After Dark segment)
Date: March 19, 2026
Host/Co-hosts: (Possible) Megan McCardell, Cesar Faraday (Truth), Paul “P” Pierce
Guest: Malik S (Stand-up Comedian)
In this vibrant and hilarious episode, comedian Malik S joins the Truth After Dark crew for an unfiltered exploration of modern dating, the “rules” of being flown out, dating older women, women’s independence, industry myths, and the emotional realities behind love and rejection. Signature Club Shay Shay energy is alive—raw, candid, and full of memorable one-liners and friendly debates about today’s relationship norms and the shifting landscape for men and women alike.
[03:00; 09:36; 39:49, 85:50]
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[63:09; 64:08; 67:36; 68:26; 69:15; 90:06]
This episode provides a masterclass in frank relationship discussions: blunt truths on modern dating, real talk about gendered expectations, and uplifting reminders that personal growth, healthy love, and self-worth transcend online narratives. Malik S’s humor and the hosts’ pushbacks create a nuanced, lively debate that’s as entertaining as it is insightful. Whether you’re tired of “fly out” culture or searching for real partnership, there’s real wisdom (and plenty of laughs) here.