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That's what I say to some men. Do you really know how to pick a woman? I don't know how to pick a woman. I know how to get a woman, right? I got some money, right? I got some money, man. I don't care what they say. I ain't even got to be cute to you. Yeah, you need these 1520s, right? These 15. You did it. Stop acting like you don't need it.
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This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody. Welcome to Truth After Dark.
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Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday.
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Your boy, Paul Pierce.
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And our next guest is someone that you guys been asking for for a long time. He is known for keeping it real and unapologetic. Every single time he grabs a mic from standup to viral relationship takes, he's built a career off saying what most people are too scared to say. Please welcome Corey Holcomb.
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Long time. Hey.
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This is what the fans been wanting.
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Yeah, I'm glad we finally connected and
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trying to get this. This popping for a while, but I'mma get right to it.
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Let's get right to it.
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As a matter of fact, maybe she
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did what we about to talk about.
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But let's we talk about something that you talked about years ago about Mrs. Ms. Cheyenne Bryant because you refused to call her a doctor. And now everything is coming to light. You have some choice words about her. So, you know, what's your thought on the whole thing blowing up right now? I mean, you said this a long time ago and nobody listened or half the people heard and didn't want to hear it. What's your thoughts on this?
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It ain't like I felt like. Nah, I told y'. All. I just was. I don't know. See what it is When I went on Cam Newton, right? It was a little bit right after she went on there. And this what happens out here, man. We out here still walking around amongst the people in the street. And it's people in the street who knew this lady. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, okay. Which I would never say names because these people ain't even in the game or nothing no more. They just regular citizens. They knew her, and they was like, I can't believe she pulling it off. And so when I heard more history about this girl. Cause I saw her years before on a podcast we did, before she was even built or shaped like that. You know what I'm saying? I'm just keeping it a buck. And so I was like. I took it. I took the liberty of saying what I knew on cam show. And I don't know, I kind of watched what I said on cam.
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So I was like.
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I wasn't like outright that or nothing like that, but I was saying, oh, that's a cap and all like that. But it turned into. Somewhere it seemed like I got hate for somebody. I don't wish that girl to be going down in no way. But as I found out more about psychopathic behavior, and we look at psychopath, like it's a word one way, but a psychopath. The definition of a psychopath. She checks all the boxes. Wow. She checks the boxes. I encourage people to look up what a psychopath is. Cause I broke it down on my show yesterday, and she checks a lot of the boxes for a psychopath. I just don't see her feeling no remorse for nothing that she's done right. And she knows she was capping. It ain't like she was like, all right, well, look, I'm out here trying to get it or whatever. She just was like, fuck y', all if you got a problem with it. Yeah, yo.
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I mean, this is. I mean, I didn't really go all the way there when I. When I. When we had her on the show. But everybody knew what I was saying.
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He was a gentleman, dude.
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I was a gentleman about it, you know? And, you know, I ain't trying. Trying to drag nobody. Everybody out here trying to. You know, trying to eat and everything, you know? And so I was just like. Well, you know, I was just like. Kind of like, I know you. I know you from Long Beach. I know you, man.
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Look, people who know, they know. Yeah.
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You know.
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You know, we do this explaining for everybody who. You know what I'm saying? We just call them the regular folk, right? Come on, we know. Stop.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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But you had a very strong opinion on it. And now that it's all coming to light and you know she's bearing the weight of the world, people all on her.
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I don't hate that lady. I don't even use the word hate. Ob. No, no, no, no. But if somebody lying, I might say you lying. If I know you lying. Right, right.
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You also said she was a lesbian.
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Yeah, that's out there too. I wish she would challenge me on that because I'm telling you, there's some people who used to be out here in the streets with her. And if I drop names, she'll probably just shut up. Cause everybody ain't in the streets like they used to be in the streets. You know what I'm saying? So I said, I never said for sure, like you're this. But listen, I know who your little friend was who used to hang with you. So you know what I'm saying? Well, I don't know her. I'm saying it's been explained to me who that is and it all makes sense.
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On your podcast, you put a picture up with the girl that you probably co proclaimed for us to ask about her and.
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Yeah, yeah, I think I did do that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw the clip.
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Someone else to talk about it. I don't believe she would tell the truth about it. And what? Once again, I don't have hate for that girl. I just. I like the fact that I called out. I thought it was funny. Right. Because I'm a comedian. Right?
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Absolutely.
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Over everything else. Right.
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What'd you say that I was gonna say? What encouraged you to even like blast her in that way? You know, because I feel like as black women, we experience being teared down a lot, you know? And so as a black man, what would influence you to want to call her a lesbian or call her out, even if that's her personal business?
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If you step to the game with a lie, I'm telling you, people gonna let you have it. Especially people like me, because I do comedy for a living. And if you are lying about something else as serious as being a doctor amongst the people, I'm going to say something about it. I can't help it. I can crack jokes about that while I'm on stage. Especially with it being a hot topic now. I might have some jokes this weekend about that. Cause it's just a hot topic. It trends. We all go through it in the media. I was going through it in the Media a couple of months ago, you know what I'm saying? So it's not the end of the world. I think she should sell a book on how to hide your identity. Cause her identity of who she was 10 years ago and beyond is gone. I wanna ask her, how did you do that? How did you hide how you used to look and everything? So good. Cause you did a great job at that. I would buy that book instantly if she could show how she hid her past. There is no 2002 and stuff like that. The sister online records. Okay, he got rid of all that. That was good. That was good. You, you good. How about that book?
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So you hear that Mrs. Ms. Cheyenne Bryant? Corey does not hate you. You know, he just, you know, if facts are facts, that's just what it is.
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On the Breakfast Club she said something that was interesting where she act like people who don't like you and all like that. All these therapists that are out here speaking and taking up for their profession. It's not that they don't like you, it's just people speak on it. Stop acting like a victim. You're not a victim. You lied. If, if, if everybody who thinks that you're lying is wrong, it's. It's very easy to fix it. But I don't think you can fix
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it like, like Corey, we live in the world in a time right now more than ever. That's. It's a complete. Everything's a lie. Yes, every goddamn thing is a lie. I mean, you seen the Chinese man who had a kid with the lady and the kid came out ugly and the lady had the plastic surgery and he was like, oh no. You know, I thought you looked a certain way. You know, we live in a. Like plastic surgery is normal. Boob implants, breast implants, nose, eyes, face, nails, everything for the women. Everything that we live in the fakest world ever in the history of mankind right now. And it's just like it's been going on.
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It's accepted.
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It's like got to the point to we don't give a damn cause everything ain't real.
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Well, it's scary to me. I mean like, I'm a loner. I'm by myself most of the time. The only time I'm around other people is like when I do my podcast or when I'm working or maybe if I have purchased female comedy company.
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Right?
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That's when I'm around.
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You purchased it.
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Purchased female company.
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Okay.
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I don't like all that set up. We in a relationship. No I ain't mad at that. I'm gonna rent you and you're gonna take it. Cause you need it.
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Where you. You go to girlfriend dot com?
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No, no, no. I just go.
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That's an inside joke. I said that a long time ago.
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I don't like doing it online. You just go where there's poverty. This is. This is my thing.
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So you just pick them up off, like, Fig.
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Yeah. Where's Figueroa?
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That's.
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What, not the hostroom? No. At one time, you used to. People used to patronize the street walkers, but now in this economy, the girls who think they're not street walkers are affordable. And you see that they're frustrated that they have to do that. But I can fuck through it. Damn.
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Wow. Okay.
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I'm not mad at that. Because you take out the headache, you take out the extra shenanigans that go in with trying to please somebody. You just. You do what you need to do and you out of there.
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I pray for men that aren't in transitional relationships. It should be transitional. There's just too many people that I know.
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And that's what a relationship is anyway.
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Yeah, it is anyway. But some people are under the influence that somebody is with them for other reasons.
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What is a transitional relationship?
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Transactional.
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I'm sorry.
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Transactional.
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I'm sorry.
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I know. I know what he meant. I know what he meant.
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Yeah. It's like I. I didn't watch some real nice guys lose everything because they thought that they knew how to pick a companion, a female companion, based off what they were feeling and thinking. And it's just like, I'm older now, so I'm not gonna play the game. After I got out of my divorce, I was like, I'll never be in a situation where I'm scared what the judge is going to say and take everything I worked for. That's crazy. If you really think about it, you know what's going to happen, but you're afraid this person will leave you, so you just sign your life away. Because that's what a marriage is. If you just go somewhere and get married the traditional way, it's almost insane, in my opinion, to be married in the United States of America. If you have something to lose right now, if you ain't got nothing to lose, then y' all just go get it together. And maybe you feel better about it if you gotta split it up later on. But if I step to you with all this and you coming to me
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in an Uber, See, people talk bad about me when I Said marriage is for broke people and old people. And now like every time we do an interview with people, I feel like I'm getting the same reaction. Like, if you got, like you just said, you got nothing to lose. Okay.
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You could get married.
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Okay. Most poor people don't have nothing to lose. You owe you like once you get old, it's like, I need help anyway.
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Well, even when you get old, man, it's like, remember that old man who married that actress girl? She was a big, busty white girl.
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Yeah. Yes, yeah.
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Anyway, she married one of them old Caucasian males in Texas. And you saw what happened to her.
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Yeah.
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And her son. So they had a way to fix all that because she wasn't finna take their family wealth.
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Right.
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You know what I mean when I say that? But I'm saying, just the average Joe, if you get married nowadays, you are basically agreeing to sign what you have away to this person. Now do you really believe in that person like that, or you just don't want them to leave? And not wanting them to leave is a real feeling. Because if you love somebody, like, especially like if a man love a woman, he might be willing to sign it all the way just for the chance to keep her. But it's a cold world out here now. So if you fall for it, you know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing nobody can do to help you. You got to go through it and just be there for your people when they done robbing you.
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So rest of your life you don't. You don't.
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Can't fathom it.
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Marriage just. It's not.
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There's no chance I'll never be in another government contract like that.
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Not even like just a full blown.
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I got somebody who's important to me that I care about. Yeah. And things are set up in a way where we have contracts. If something happens to me, she ain't got to worry about none because that's who I would leave it to. Anything I had. Because she got my back and she showed me she got my back. Nothing, she said. That's what she does, right? So life is still a gamble. But I gamble with her because of what she showed me.
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What did I say in the last. Was this the last episode about that?
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It was the one before that you said about I've spoken. Making a contract outside of the governmental agreement to get married.
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No, like, say if there's somebody there, just put her in the trust or put her in the wheel.
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Yeah.
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And then when y' all break up, you can take her out the wheel if it don't work out. It was something like that.
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Yeah. No, you.
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You.
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Come on, Paul, man, look, I've been watching you, brother. I was a fan. When I. When I found out the guys knew you, I was like, man, yeah. Cause you know, I moved out here from Chicago. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So we got some mutual friends. You ain't no fool, man. You know what's up. Yeah. When you was talking to the young lady, Ms. Bryant, on the show, I was like, yeah, you know what's up. He's a gentleman, though.
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Yeah.
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I was.
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Yeah.
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That's something to be proud of. You a gentleman. I appreciate you for being a gentleman, brother, but come on, man. We ain't going to do that stupid shit. Look, I'm f to go get married. Come on, mama. Come here and watch this lady who feeling me right now.
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Right?
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Right.
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We gonna take some pictures, and then
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years later, we gonna be in court like this, man.
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Are you upfront with women? Like, I'm not gonna get married? Because I think it's not fair to lead someone on, to feel like they'll have that opportunity with you, and they don't.
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I have a lot of women who are frustrated with me because they agree to deal with me because I am a kind individual. I do things for people. But women who I deal with know that I ain't dealing with one woman. That would be insane at my age. I mean, because everything I get, I look at it as blessings from God. I believe I would lose everything I had if I was lying to women and letting them know or saying, yo, it's you. Every woman I know knows that. It's other women I deal with. I'm bold enough to say that. And I have lost people that I didn't want to lose because I was bold enough to tell them that. But they all come back later on anyway because it's a cold world. Cold world. Ain't nothing out there. Like, look, this might make. This might make a woman mad just by me saying this, but it's. It's real. I hear most. Most people can't make it off working a job and coming home with that one check and live the way they want to live, the way this fake intellect. Life shows the life. Yeah.
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So put the mic up a little bit.
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Yeah. When you. When you hook up with a guy who can do some things.
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Yeah.
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Guys who can do some things. You're in a power position in America because it's a lot of poverty going on out here. It's just nobody says that you only
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mess with poor, poor, poor females.
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So you can control them.
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So you can control them.
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Well, it's a lot easier to control somebody who can't control they, they way of going to the gas. A lot of girls who just don't have the money to do what they want to do. So I don't understand why you wouldn't hook up with a sugar daddy or whoever you want to, whatever you want to call the guy. Somebody who talks to you transparently is what I would dream my daughter to be around. Yeah, you need to talk. You need to deal with somebody who telling you what's up. And if you deal with him, don't be coming to me talking about, oh, he did that. I was like, wait, wait, did he lie to you? Okay, well, be quiet. If you with him, you with him. There's no. The female victim syndrome is something that needs to stop because mostly everybody know what's up. You know, when somebody cheating on you, even if they don't tell you, when you a woman, you know, come on now. Of course it is some stupid people in the world who act like they don't know. Or if you really don't know, you, you need help anyway. If you don't know, if you don't know, how do you live in this world?
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That's 100% not always true. As a woman, I can talk and speak to that. There's a lot of men who create a representative when they meet you. And this representative shows up for a period of time so a woman can fall in love with the representative. And after six months, they start to see the real person. At that point, you've already tricked and fooled someone to be in love with you. So their standards, their things change based off of the love they feel for somebody. So you cannot say that. Men don't show up as representatives in relationships, period, point blank, like they're, they don't want to lose the person. Just like you said, I don't want to lose this person. So I'm going to act like I'm the perfect man so I can have her fall in love with me. So I think that a lot of women have experienced that. And I do understand that some women play the victim and they don't take accountability. And I agree with that 100%. But we cannot forget about the large majority of men who lie to get what they want. And they're damn bad.
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But what about the ones that don't lie? You got the situation that, hey, listen, I'm taking care of that rent you know, and you know, I see other girls right now, you know what it
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is,
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that's what he representing. And you still going with it. But then you complain when.
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Yeah, I mean that's someone. So for me I feel like a lot of women aren't. But a lot of women aren't designed. A lot of women aren't designed to operate in that space. So for me, for instance, I know for a fact that in that space I'm not going to feel good. Even if I pretend to go along with it, I'm not going to feel good. So I don't put myself in those situations. If a man can't be committed to me, you're not going to be with me or with me. That's me personally. If a woman feels like she is able to operate in that space with a man, get her bills paid cuz she's struggling that bad. I'm not struggling that hard. I'm never going to be that broke to mess with a man. So at the end of the day, if a woman feels like that, but
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they are, most women are.
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I wouldn't say most right now we're actually. A lot of black women are more educated.
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I didn't say black women, I said women.
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Well, women are more educated, they have
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more money now and that's the opportunities just ain't there. Like if you go to the club, 99% of the girls in there looking
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for a come up, I could agree with that. I'm not even against that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Or they want. They don't even let them in the club that much no more. Because the ones that dragged the club down by draining the clients and everything, they bad for business and they act like you hating on them, you bad for business. But I want to say this in response to what she said. If somebody shows you that they are a liar or no good and you're only six months in, that's a blessing.
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Yeah.
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Once you figure it out. And it ain't been but six months. Because I know people who have been married for years and they didn't realize what it was till years into the commitment.
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Yeah, I agree with that.
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Six months is good.
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I think six months is good.
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As far as it go with women though. I can only speak for myself. Most of the women I know all lied to my face.
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Yeah, me too.
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I'm saying like I'm. I'm not talking about hookers. The hookers were honest with me. But most of the women that I know all lied about. Who they were and everything.
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They always do it at the beginning too.
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I'm serious. Like right out the gate.
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Like, for what? That's the perfect time to be honest.
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But like anybody, you know, well, you lie. You lie a lot of times when you present yourself. Like, take me, for example. I got my beard black. It's dyed. So that's a lie. If you be honest about things. People lie about things in society. Like you were saying, people come to you with a body that's been altered. That's a lie as well. But certain things you can be like, okay, well, that's what come with it. But I'm talking about. I'm trying to think of most of the women I've ever met dealing with as far as I go with relationship. Almost everyone lied to me and act like they didn't. Almost everyone. I got divorced and I was laughing because I used to feel so bad. Cause I was never a man who'd been with one woman. I've never been that guy. And I used to lie to my wife in the beginning, before I got to where I am now mentally. I used to lie about where I being and everything. So I used to feel terrible, really. I felt bad about being a man who, Damn this my wife. I be lying to her about all this. But in the divorce, I found out she had property that I didn't know about.
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Oh, damn.
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She had got a. She was in a accident with a police guy who was getting ready to retire. He ran into the back of the car and she got some money from that. And all this was a blessing because when the judge found all this, he said, look, you guys are even. You go your own separate way. I couldn't do nothing but laugh. I was like, wow, I beat the game. Cause you know, out here, marriage means you owe somebody if you got some money, right? Mine. All because of a lie.
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Clean break.
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All because of a lie. The judge didn't like that. So I, I don't get mad when people even lie to me. I, I'm. I, it. It's so rare that something happened where I really didn't know it was happening. And most of us who have common sense, you just gotta think about that. You don't. You did not know. Most of the times you just be like, okay, I don't wanna, I don't wanna stop messing with this person. For real. I don't wanna stop messing with this person. So we let stuff go. Oh, damn.
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I'm trying to think how I've been in something like that.
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I don't know, hell, yeah, you've been stuff like that, man. Some of these girls, when you get attached to them, you tolerate stuff that you be like, this is crazy, but I don't want to leave this person alone right now.
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That got more to do probably with something sexual that ain't got nothing to do about that. Ain't got nothing to do about her.
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You might have a point, like, but it ain't just because you sleeping with them. Sometimes you have a woman and you begin to care about her and you don't want her nowhere else. You don't want her in the streets, passing the box out. So the stuff you tolerate, you really humiliate yourself, but you can't get out of it. That's the power a woman has over a man. When you start to care about them, the stuff you let go, you be like, damn, I know I shouldn't tolerate this, but I just don't want this person to go, I don't know if
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I ever done that.
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And it ain't no reason to feel stupid about it. You a human being, as women do
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that for men, too.
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Yeah, I've tolerated cheating, but not knowing who it was and all of that. I know I tolerated cheating one time, but I don't know the details or nothing, but I know it was some cheating going on and I tolerated it.
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You bold to admit that? Cause most people ain't got the courage to admit that.
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Yeah, but only one time, though. But that's tough. That's tough because women do it all the time, especially if they got a man that's taking care of them.
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Yeah, women tolerate cheating all the time.
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Yeah, they do.
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Yeah. I think women have a harder time. I feel like anything that you're doing, you wouldn't want your person to know if you're in a committed, monogamous relationship. So whatever it is that I'm doing that I'm hiding from my partner would be considered cheating. Like, I wouldn't want you to know that I'm maybe texting my ex or that I'm, you know, going to go meet with this guy for dinner or, you know, and then it can go as far as having sex, if that's what your agreement is. Obviously you have a different agreement with your partners, as you said. But if you decided to be in a committed relationship and you guys decided to be.
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I'm in a committed relationship.
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Oh, okay. You're in a committed relationship. Well, if you. Whatever agreement, everyone has a different record deal in the relationship. Right? So whatever type of agreement you guys have decided upon. Anything that goes outside of that is cheating. Right? So, like, anything that my man, I would hide from my man that I know he wouldn't be okay with, I would consider cheating. Right? So, like, I'm talking on the phone to a man and he would walk in and I'm hanging up the phone. Like that type of stuff. It can go as far as little as that or as far as we had sex and we was messing around, you know, whatever it is. So everyone has a different opinion on what cheating looks like. I think that's something that people should discuss and understand.
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Lying is cheating.
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Yeah, I can agree with that.
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I said cheating was if you never seen your girl without makeup.
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Oh, yeah, he did say that.
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That's cheating.
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That's cheating, right? Because it's saying that you're covering up something. You're hiding something.
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Well, why wouldn't you. Also, why would you make someone. Your girl before you didn't see them with a. Without makeup? Why wouldn't you be like, yo, we haven't seen.
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Let's go in the pool. It looked like it was. It looked like it wasn't makeup.
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You blended in there. When do you see a girl without makeup?
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That's what I'm saying.
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I. I come on the show and don't wear makeup all the time. So.
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No, but, like, you know, I don't wear makeup.
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This thought about you. It's about, when do you see.
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Well, he asked, when do a girl. When do you see a girl? Am I a girl?
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When do you see a girl without makeup? You gotta ask. Answer the question.
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Then I just told him,
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you just don't.
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Though bold enough to be seen with our makeup. Makeup to take the garbage out.
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No, I think I'm beautiful without makeup, though. That's my own opinion. People can call me ugly or whatever they want to call me. I'm. I love. I have freckles. I like my face without makeup sometimes more than with makeup. And I don't know how to do makeup well at all. So now I literally just have blush on and bronzer and lipstick. So I'm not big on makeup. But we do live in a society where women wear makeup a lot. And I do think that it. I saw someone the other day, and I only seen her with makeup, and she was very beautiful to me. And I saw her and I was like, oh, I didn't know her. I didn't know it was her. I did not know it was her. And it freaked me out because I'm like, this is how good we're getting at painting faces to look like it's someone different.
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We got to reevaluate. See, look, most narrators know how they
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woman look until she in the hospital, right?
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That's crazy as hell.
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That's realistic.
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I'm going to say this in the hospital. You go in the room, you be like, oh, I'm sorry. I was looking for my girl.
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We got to come out.
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That is your girl taking a shower. James Brown in there. That ain't my girl.
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I'm crying. What about taking a shower with a girl, though?
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Like, girls will make up to the shower.
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They don't wash their face right there.
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What about the pool thing?
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They don't get in the pool.
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They don't get in the pool layout.
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What?
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Listen, there got to be a new
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confused at what point the ear will come off and everything.
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I want to tell the world this right now. And you better understand this right now. Whenever you see your girl, like, you have a rating for your girl or a girl you talking to say, like, oh, man, what you think she is? Oh, she. She is a solid seven. She probably a three.
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So you've never seen a girl that had a wife.
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If she a seven, she a three. If she a eight, she a five.
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I have a question for both.
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If she a dime, she a 8.
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Have you ever seen a girl that had a widow real life, had makeup on all of this, and then you seen her without makeup, natural hair chilling, and you weren't like, wow, she's beautiful. She's more beautiful this way. Because I've been in the relationship where men are like, I prefer you without makeup or without a weave in, and just your natural hair looks more beautiful to me. Like. So you're telling me you never seen a girl that's more beautiful without that?
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All my girlfriends.
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So then you can't say that.
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You say all your girlfriends. Brothers.
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Yeah, we're better with our makeup.
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Oh, see, that says a lot because.
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But I was on that, though. I was really on that. You know what I'm saying? I was really on that. I was like, ain't no.
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You just said earlier that you were dating someone that got the baby crazy.
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You know what I used to do? You know what? The first thing I do, I meet a girl I used to do. I used to be like, let me see. I touch her. I touch right here, and I go straight to the back and see if there was any speed bumps. If it was speed bumps, I was like, nah, I'm good.
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Well, his feet bumps most of the Time, dog.
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But I'm just saying, my girlfriend.
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Do you have a type? Oh, man, I don't know. I just asked you that because you said you like all of them without makeup.
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Yeah, I do. My type has changed as the stages of my life has changed.
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Yeah, me too.
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You know what I'm saying? As you get like older, you know, I'm pushing 49 now, so it's changing, you know what I'm saying? It ain't like it's settling, but it's changing definitely. And so, you know, whereas before, I think, man, my first girl was light skinned and brown skinned. Brown skinned and like it was. It's changed.
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Like, do you have a type?
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No, no type.
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You might see me with a cute one day, you might see me with a ugly bitch the next day. But you saw me with a.
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What's the heaviest? What's the heaviest? What's the heaviest?
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She can go, man, I was talking about it on my show one day. I had a 400 pounder. It was, it was different. Paul, I'm crying. I worked at the airport, man. She had to plug. I said I had to do it.
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She was £400.
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Yeah, she about £400.
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No way.
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This what was amazing. Like, once you open her butt a little bit, it get real dark in the inside. I was like, did you light a firecracker in your ass? What the hell happened?
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The thigh's rubbish.
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Yeah, that rubbed me. Look where the airplane. Look like where the airplane land. That's what I call it.
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I am crying.
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It's bad, but I ain't. Sex ain't always for pleasure for me. I've been hustling. I didn't pay rent until I was 30 years old because I always knew how to lay up off abroad.
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Yeah, they say the big women be paying the bills.
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Big girls, you know, they gonna get what they can get, right? And then when you get money, it reverses. Because men, we get to pick who we want to be with. When you got some money, right? That's why, you know what I'm saying? You, you just don't see a lot of guys who got money with a girl that don't look good without makeup. And when you see somebody who got money with a girl who don't look good without makeup, you be like, he must have had her already.
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Must have been with her since high school.
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If you had money, you ain't gonna be with no that you can't feel good about seeing walking around the house when they first wake up. Because that's my Test. I like to see you when you first get up. All right, let me see who this is.
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Somebody get up at 4am Go in that bathroom, lay back down.
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Don't roll. Don't roll over. Yeah, you wake up and hit you with the. Hey, I know what you talking about, too. Hey, good boy. Why do they act like they don't know? Like it'll be a girl? Like she is. The whole neck up is a full costume. And then they be like, so you just be. I notice every time I have sex with you, I don't hear from you for at least two months. We don't never go to the movies or nothing. And I be like, I got bitches for that.
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Oh, man, we talk about that too. Work not knowing that she work.
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That's the worst. I love that phrase. That's your shit. Yeah. Work not knowing that they work, not knowing the day work. Sometimes I think I'm like, are you really playing dumb? Like you don't know what's happening, right? Come on, man.
C
It's work not knowing they work.
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You know, I just. I'm just going through my little fetish or whatever coming over here with you. You got to know that we ain't never been nowhere. Huh?
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Now.
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And people get mad that you actually live your life in a way where you're smart enough not to get caught up, because that's the way you got to do it, Especially if you got some money. And when I say money, I'm just talking about a guy with a car, a house, and ain't worried about the gas price. Them people with money.
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Right, Right.
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If you ain't worried about the gas price, then you do it all right?
C
Out here, man. Gas is high right now. Everybody getting Teslas. Everybody is out here Ubering. Yeah, even Uber didn't went up.
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Yeah, it did go up, versus from when it first came out.
C
What you was gonna say, what you had, you was gonna bring.
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No, I wasn't.
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Sometimes I think I'd be intimidating to women.
C
Oh, yeah, definitely. The women are intimidated. You got strong opinions about the women, Corey. You know what I'm saying? You give them a lot of hoes and bitch and all this, but those
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are women who don't know me. And I would like to take this opportunity to let women know I'm a gentleman. There's no way I'm gonna step to you disrespectfully.
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You called me the bitch on one of your clips. I didn't appreciate that.
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I didn't know you. I could never say that now, now, I know, but you understand the difference, though.
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I. I don't. But I will say that you. You're real cool, and I think you have a good energy, and, you know, it's all good. I'm very big on not letting people call me out of my name in your face. Just period. If I. If somebody don't know, you know my name all the time. No, listen, I feel you. I say bitch all the time, and I call a A all the time.
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I'm like is part of my vocabulary.
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Right.
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Me too. So I'm not even mad at it. I get it. I understand it. When I saw that, did I feel a certain way, I was like, yeah, because it's on the Internet, so it's for people to see. And I carry myself and in a certain way that I really don't like to be called a bitch.
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I understand. I felt it insane when I came in. But listen, I've spoken to you. It's my duty to be a gentleman to other. Other females that I meet in the world. I'm not going to come to somebody out of pocket.
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And I see that.
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That's the. That's the misconception about Corey Holcomb. I'm not going to step to you out of pocket. But I love it when the shit just go bad. I'll be like, oh, well, fuck it.
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Now you got all this, what we're doing, right?
C
It's on and popping, on and popping.
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And this is what we doing.
A
Okay, so do you want to talk about this? And you don't have to, but obviously, a few months ago, you had the TMZ scandal with the girl in the video of looking. It's seemingly allegedly looking, like you may have hit her. Right?
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I love to talk about it.
A
Okay, let's get into it then. Yeah. What. What do you want to. What do you want to say about that? I know that was a big deal, I guess, for you, and it was.
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Well, it was set up.
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Okay.
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There's a lawyer lady named Sean Holly who for some reason, is trying to sabotage me in a way where it's scary because she's like a big wig in Hollywood, and her and Harvey Levins, the dude from tmz. Hey, buddy. Buddy. And it's like, I'm just a dude who talk crazy on the podcast and do comedy. So what happened was I was scared. I was like, oh, what is this set up? Because that lady is associated with setting people up. That was a girl. This girl. Now, listen, I'm not gonna lie about nothing. Because I don't get down like that. This girl is a heavy drug user, and she was stalking me. Whenever she saw me, she would keep testing me. And when. I'm not talking about testing, I'm talking about yelling at me. Fuck you, nigga. I hope your mama died. All that shit like that, right in my face. And there's witnesses to this, which is why I was given a restraining order. After I did hit that woman. I put my hands on that woman and did it like this. Of course people say, oh, you punched her and all that. Yeah. Whatever the judge saw, all this was done before TMZ let out. What they let out. It was the smear campaign. They took 30 seconds of my life to turn me into a bad guy. And it happens sometimes. There's nothing I can do about that. They got depressed. I knew I couldn't beat him. I was like, oh, man, they after me now. It's, oh, yeah. But, yeah, I got into it with this girl who claims to be a comedian. She's not a comedian. She's really a disturbed person.
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There's.
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She. She has fights and things like that with people all the time. There was this guy who took up for her, and I think that was his girlfriend. Even though before things got bad, I was telling, hey, man, get your girl, man. Yeah. I was not some guy who just goes around acting like, he Debo. I don't do that.
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Yeah.
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Long story short, the dude who took up for her, she stabbed him. Damn. He got a restraining order on her. Now, this is a disturbed woman. And she used to live in this. I think it's the type of place where people go when you paper low and a whole bunch of. It's like almost like a halfway house. Almost. Something like that. Almost everybody there got restraining orders on her. The girl is. She's wild. And this stuff can be researched. And you can see I'm not lying. I just hate that. My reputation I worked on for a long time was really smeared when they showed me, when I finally had enough, and I walked over to the girl at what we call in Chicago, I mushed her, right? I bushed her. But the girl, she couldn't say nothing to me. Cause I ran into. A couple of Times. There was a restraining order. The judge gave a restraining order for her on me. Because the judge was like, Mr. Holcomb, you shouldn't have put your hands on her. Just. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, I understand, you, Honor, But I was given a restraining order on that woman because what I said was proven in court. There were a lot of witnesses on that girl. That girl is crazy, in my opinion. So people have an opinion about this,
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that and the other.
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The one thing I want to say when it comes to hitting people, I do not like to hit anybody. But this is the misconception that's out there that I can't wait to hear y' all response on this. Well, from. Anybody can get it. Man, woman, kids. And I say man, woman, kids, because we all know men, we fight, we kill each other. If it go bad with a woman, that's the last thing I wanna do is hit a woman. But I have seen women do some stuff out here where you know what I'm saying. If you think you ain't going to never have to hit a woman, you are delusional. You are delusional. It's women out here who will kill you. It's just you don't know the statistics of that because it's not something they really advertise. But if you know anything about female prison and all like that, man, these girls ain't playing. It's some dangerous women out here and you might have to retaliate physically. Kids, Somebody like, what are you talking about? Kids. I'm telling you, man, in Chicago, I saw a group of kids jump on this lady while she was walking home with her kids. Do y' all remember that story?
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Yeah, I do.
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Yeah, it was sad. That's what I'm saying. Anybody can get it. Cause if you run up on that, I don't care what gentleman you claim to be, if you see your wife, I think she has cerebral palsy or something, getting jumped on by some kids, what are you gonna do? You gonna be like, you guys stop that. No, you might have to make an example out of one of the kids.
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Yeah.
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So I'm saying, like, I think we live in a world where everything is just. It's phony. I'm bold enough to say this. More men have hit a woman than they willing to admit because of what happens with the public backlash when you're known for hitting a woman. But sometimes in partnerships, the best of us can get into it with somebody we love that's a female and put your hands on it. It's just everybody lies. Everybody lies. I know people who are stand up men who have made a mistake and blah, blah, blah, Damn. And you be like, God damn, I ain't want to do that. But you a human being. You had just like dogs. Oh, he's a nice dog. He got teeth Though he'll bite. We only human.
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Yeah, I definitely gave out a mush before.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I never want anybody to look at me like I'm a hothead who just hit somebody. I don't. I let so much go, but I was pushed. I was pushed to the. I was pushed to the edge. And I was granted a restraining order against that woman. And TMZ knew it, but they were still pushing the narrative. Like, I was the bad guy.
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I hate tmz.
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They was talking about a gun. So we heard you had a gun. And I like that. I'm like, I see what y' all trying to do.
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Like, I know you not the bad guy. I didn't talk to you a few times, and I'm sitting here, and you don't come off. But you've been in the center of a lot of controversies.
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It'd be like that, man. If you're a masculine man and you speak up for yourself, man. Yeah, you gonna get drama. Ain't no way around it. That's the only way. You don't get no drama if you just do this all the time.
A
Yeah. I feel like I've always been taught by my dad, like, you don't talk to men a certain way because a man has a visceral instinct. And your reflex could be like, yo. And you don't even. You know, you might not mean it, but there's a visceral reaction that we all have. And you. My dad was like, don't call no man out his name. Don't talk to a man in a certain way. Don't yell at a man, because you never know what his visceral instinct will be. So I feel like women and I always share this with women, and I have clips about this, but it's just really important to, like, know how to stay in your place. You're not stronger than a man. You'll never meet a beat a man at his own game, period. So it's good to, like, stay in our femininity when we're around these men as best as we can.
C
Now, I want to get on this. This Kevin Harbros.
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Cause we talked about this. Let's get.
C
Let's get. Let's get on this Kevin Harbros. Cause me and Azar had a lot to say about some of the jokes that was spread. And you, you know, you being in the industry and a comedian, you know, watching this, what was your thought on the initial roast and how it went down? And then what was your Thoughts on how Kevin react, responded to the backlash, like. Cause he went on. Was it the Breakfast Show? Yeah, it was the Breakfast Club.
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Yeah.
C
Like, can we play the clip from the Breakfast Club?
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Did you watch the roast?
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Yeah, I watched most of it.
A
Most of it. What are your. What are your thoughts on it?
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That's Hollywood. And I can explain it in a way where people will understand what I'm saying. Listen, man, if you're going to take the initiative to be part of Hollywood, there's no way around that. People told me, and I mean, people say this about me. Oh, yeah, you couldn't make it in Hollywood or whatever, man. Listen, I did this show called Last Comic Standing. And that was back when I was really chasing the Hollywood dream. I ran across so much racism and things that I just didn't know what to do. I was froze. I was like, did that motherfucker say that? Sit in front of me, you know what I'm saying? And the guy named, I ain't shocked. His name was Jay Moore. He was a comedian. He was very loose lipped. Like those Caucasian comedians on the roast was around me and it challenged me. Cause I'm the type of guy coming from a place where, well, first of all, Chicago's a segregated city. I do segregated city. I knew nothing about Caucasian people till I moved to la. In Chicago, the black people be around the black people, white people around Spanish. So I found out about Caucasian people as I moved to la. And I'm saying, like, there are some Caucasian people who conduct themselves respectfully. But you take an entertainer, most entertainers are broken. So if you're dealing with broken entertainers that are Caucasian and they can flex their power around us, that's what they're gonna do. That dude who hosted the Kevin Hart roast and the other dude, Tony and Pinchcliffe. Yeah, this is what they do.
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Yeah.
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Which is why I actually, I couldn't take it no more because I just had to do this all the time. Smile. And I was like, this is killing my soul.
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Damn.
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So you take a brother like Kevin Hart who is selfless. Do you hear what I'm saying? I done seen Kevin Hart help people in ways where I was like, wow, boy, you got a heart of gold. You take somebody like Kevin Hart who is in this position that he's in with this Netflix roast, what do you think Kevin Hart can do about that? What is he about to take this moment to stand up and say, enough. He's not fitting to do that right there. It's not the time or the place. To do that right there, when you've had enough, you either gonna walk away, maybe you have enough money to walk away and feel good about it. And really, it's never enough money, if you wanna know the truth once you start bossing out. But I'm saying I know what he's going through in that situation because I went through it. I've been around cocky Caucasian males and when they feel like they can do this, especially if they're entertainers, most of them are gonna do it. Yeah, most of them are gonna do it. Cheryl Underwood, even though she said they gave me a heads up on this, I saw how shocked she was. Cause I know Cheryl Underwood is from Chicago and we don't play like that, right? Which is why if a Tony or that other dude who was hosting, if we in Hollywood, I'm gonna be cool. But like one day, if they ever got bold enough to talk like that, I just tell them, hey, hey, hey, look man, we not on film. You can't talk like that around me. Because it might ignite something that I don't want. And I promise you, you ain't gonna want it. Cause most of them comedians are just not people who really about their life. I just say that. Not like I'm about any life, but I'm just saying you don't wanna fight. You just cocky and confident around me. So you think you can do it when we not in Hollywood? If I saw somebody talking to Kevin Hart like that out of Hollywood, I would be shocked. Because really, like, you take Kevin Hart for example, right? Nice guy, right? I gotta tell you this, this is no lie. One day me and Kevin was in Philly. I was on a show he put me on and I was on the other side of my hotel room. I saw him get off the escalator. And I was like, hey, we don't like your kind around here. Kevin said, what? And I'm laughing. I'm like, you heard me, boy. We don't like your kind in the hallway. This is a reputable hotel. Couldn't see me. Do you know Kevin was trying to kick that door in? Little Kevin. I was laughing. Cause I was like, oh shit, he's serious. So you could say whatever you want to say about people that. Cause you know, we got this thing. We was like, oh, you ain't no straight digger and all like that. Listen, man, Kevin was in a position where Kevin is getting his money. That's part of the Hollywood game. So if you don't understand that, I'm trying to explain it to you, everybody who smile and act nice as a human being, we all got a switch we can turn on. Kevin didn't turn on the switch right there. And I don't think it's the place to turn on the switch right there. Get your money, dog.
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All right?
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Because I know how it is out here. Everybody talking, but it's. Who will eat watermelon and get slapped with a piece of Popeye's chicken for $1,000? Damn. Don't let them fool you, man. I'm crying. They just run in they mouth, dog. Get your buddy, homie.
A
Damn, I'm crying. That's hilarious.
C
And what about his reaction? Let me play that one clip. He said Kevin was trying to get
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in that door at me, and I still didn't tell him it was me. Peaceful joke to our culture, to our audience. But our audience that's watching the roast. If you're watching the roast, you get why they're doing it. You get why the racial humor is on the table. Like, it's not. I wasn't shocked. That's what they do. Go.
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That's what they do. That's what they do.
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It happens every year when they do a roast. It's not new. This is one of the new. It's not a new agenda. It's not a new approach to comedy.
A
It's Tony Hinchcliffe.
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Like, I don't. Like. I don't expect less. I don't expect more. I feel like you're saying going too far. Yes. I mean, that's why you're there. And I hate to say this, but I'm going to, because we're being honest. People talking about their children. Talk about his set. Tony Hayes clipped the part. Yeah. We had the best set or one of the best sets between Tony and Cheryl. And I would say Naim had a really strong set.
C
I don't like when people joke about violent, tragic death. Okay, I'm good on that. Let's see. That was my only thing, joking about the violent tragedy because, like, I seen Stephen Jackson's reaction. You know, he was at the forefront for George Floyd. And, you know, the death of George Floyd really prompted something in America that. That had us protesting all over America. So, like. And I know I'm not blaming this on Kevin at all. You know what I'm saying? Obviously, this was a beautiful thing he put on. I like the fact that him and Katt Williams, boom, came together, and I don't know, you know, whatever. Behind the scenes, whatever scenes. But to do that on national TV was cool. And everything. But it just struck me, like, damn, I couldn't even laugh at that because of what it struck in America. And it shows how far we're in society. Like, where I come from, we don't joke like that. We just don't joke like that, though. It's hands. It's like, really, like, you could die.
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I know what you talking about.
C
You know what I'm saying? And I get it. Because this is the thing, how comedy has changed since the early 2000s, when I was going to the Comedy Store, you could say anything. You could talk about gay, lesbian, black, white, whatever. To right now, when you're in a era to where you gotta. Like, as a comedian, do you feel like sometimes you got, like, maybe not you. You gotta watch what you say?
B
Well, of course. Everybody gotta watch what they say, you
C
know, But I'm just like, why is this allowed on this platform?
B
Because it's Netflix, though. Netflix is. Is the new Hollywood, where if they showed the writers who was putting the thing together, for the most part, it would explain a lot. Yeah, but Kevin being put on the spot, I'm telling you, I'm not caping for him because I know him. I know what that is. I walked away from it, man. Cause I was like, man, I don't be sad. Until I was in Hollywood, I was like, oh, my God, man, these motherfuckers is trying me and getting away with it. Men like Tony, who wouldn't talk to me like that. And when the cameras wasn't around, if it's just me and him somewhere, you ain't gonna talk to me like that. This how it go. And Kevin is in a spot where. Let me just say this once again. Kevin is the type of person who will go in his pocket and help people he don't even know. And for everybody who really count, you know what I mean when I say that he a selfless dude, right? The man on the spot. Nah, man. The man is trying to get through this little nonsense press. Because on the real, man, it's like, yo, that man, you not ready to get your career up. Kevin, you playing it right. Cause we ain't finna talk like that in front of them people. We ain't finna talk like that on camera. We know what it is. And everybody that really count know what it is. Me and Kevin, man, do you know Kevin had me with him on the road? Like, I was one of the original plastic cupboys. The agency didn't like that. Cause of who I am. And I'm not finna Change. I like who I am. So the agency, I swear this the truth, man. They signed me and put me on the road to get me away from Kevin. And I peeped it, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna get away. Cause I don't want to interfere with what Kevin has done. Kevin is the type of person who might be in a position to help hundreds of people in the future. I'm not selfish enough to be like, no, what about me? Because I could take care of me. I'm that type of dude. Like, if you work at the basketball stadium, if you work at the Boston Garden, if the homie just crack the door and get me in, I'll be like, I'm straight from here. You know what I'm saying? That's how I am. So I root for Kevin Hart.
C
Yeah, for sure.
B
Because I know that's one of the good guys right there, man. You can get caught up in a moment like that doing anything, right?
A
Yeah.
B
With this press, man. Kevin didn't write them jokes, man. Kevin was up there at the bank putting that money in the bank. And it ain't all about money, but you work too hard to. I don't think that's the place to come up out the bag on a Netflix special. You come up out the bag, you walk away silently like, all right, I had enough. I'm done with the game. Hey, protesting loudly ain't gonna do nothing but get you blackballed.
A
Yeah, I get that.
B
Be out here in these streets with me, boy. Even though the streets. The streets feed me. When you come to my shows, it be them guys at my shows, if you know what I mean. Cause I make them people laugh, right? With the crazy stuff I talk about, you know what I mean? It's a lane for everybody. And Tony and the other Caucasian comic who hosted, it's a lane for them.
C
Right?
A
For sure. Yeah.
B
But it's a lane for. We don't like that. Talking shit about our people who got murdered by the police, man. We don't like that. So you got away with it in front of the camera. But I'm saying to all the comics like that. Just don't do that off camera. Because I'll let you know. Ain't no camera around.
A
Right, Right, Exactly.
B
We ain't on camera right now. No camera around. Get your shit together. Act like we in the streets. Right, right, right.
C
Oh, man, that's great. That's great. That was a great.
A
Before we wrap up, do you have a beef with Aries? Was that his name? Spears?
B
Aries Spears. I pity Aries Spears because everyone, it
A
seems like a lot of people don't like him. Shane Wayans recently called him a during an interview.
B
And them guys don't even be on that like that.
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I know, that's why that's great.
B
Them cool guys. But see, people don't know, man, them win boys from the projects, man, they ain't no joke. Stand next to Keenan Ivory, Wayne, all of a sudden you see, right? Oh, yeah.
C
I'm telling you, I know exactly what you're talking about. I know some people that work.
A
Yeah.
C
Some front office people. That's that you like, oh, you cold tie, but it ain't cold tie.
B
All you gotta do is stand next to him and if you got that third eye, you feel it, you be like, oh, this ain't no hoe ass nigga. Right, right, right, right. But Aries is. Aries is. And he does things that make you go, what the fuck are you doing? So I don't hate him. I pity him. If I saw him, I would try to get away from him because I saw him in the airport and, you know, he came up to my show and act a fool and put a lawsuit out there and all like that. And so I walked up to him, I was like, hey, man, what was up, man? He was like, what? What you doing, man? All like that. Forget loud.
A
Oh, God. What did you think of his. That little video that came up with him and Tiffany Hadish and that little kid.
B
Wait, what?
C
What video?
B
Oh, you don't know about that video?
C
No. This is the thing where they, where they had.
B
They. He was.
C
He was doing something. This is that. He was part of that.
A
Yeah.
C
He with. With Tiff?
A
Yeah.
C
Oh, I didn't know that.
A
It was him and her and this little baby boy and they were like kind of sexualizing the boy.
C
Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about.
B
I mean, if he was joking, he was joking. It went bad. But I'm just saying, like, I. I wouldn't put nothing past that dude, man. I'd have seen that dude. He took a bat to his wife, right?
C
Took a bat.
B
Hey, man, listen, man.
C
Like a baseball bat.
B
This is what happened. I want to tell everybody, when you sue somebody, you know, they get to research your life. Damn. Yeah. Eric Spears is a straight cow with Damn Big and do all that stuff that the Wayne boys. One line on him, he a whole ass nigga. That's how we talk, right? Get your ass out of here, man.
C
Right, right.
B
You Listen, he came on my show and got beat up by the little homie and Sousa.
C
Like, man, where you think I see this? I missed her.
B
Yeah.
A
That was crazy. I watched that and I was, like, uncomfortable.
C
Maybe I saw.
B
How do you get in the fight and don't throw one punch? You just want him to get tired. Damn. And you was talking bad. Then he stayed off the Internet for six months, but now he back in full talk shit mode again.
A
Is he?
B
I feel sorry for him. I ain't mad at him. I, I, I don't have hate for Aries Spears, but if I saw him, I'll get away from him. I'll be like, I'm good, dog. Because I don't want no more lawsuits. Because everybody, when they think you got some money, it's a lawsuit. Paul don't ever get mad enough to hit nobody. And I know you notice already.
C
I got other stuff to do.
B
Mail gonna be at the door.
C
I got a lot of other stuff I'm dealing with.
B
That's what they have at your door, a packet. Don't do it.
C
Yeah, this has been a tough year so far for me.
B
You will get through it, brother.
C
Yeah, I know, I know. I'm always, you know, I'm from the wood. Chest up, chin up, chest out, chin up. It ain't no thing, you know, but we all go through our little things, man. But we go through it.
B
Don't ever think what's happening this year is gonna happen next year, especially if you walking straight.
C
Right? For sure. I know that.
B
Just. You can't avoid the drama if you in the streets. As soon as you walk out the front door, man, here it come, here it come. And if you live with a motherfucking girl that ain't got respect for you, you got drama everywhere at home and in the streets. You gonna crash out one day, Lord. Yeah. Real talk. If your girl at the crib talk about you, you fita go to jail, you surrounded by the enemy, even at home, right?
A
That's crazy.
B
I actually like being at home by myself, man. I love it. I love it laid up.
C
It don't cost you nothing.
B
I ain't got to flush the stool.
C
It ain't got no headache, right? You can put your feet up, feet smell you fart, all that.
B
Love that. Because I'm saying, like, I might, There might be something wrong with me, but after about the 30th word a lady says to me in a day, I'd be like, like, shut up. Shut up. What? Why are you still here? Did we do it.
C
He said, dude, I heard that was what.
B
I'm just saying, we. We don't speak honestly until we get divorced. And then we'd be like, I'll never be in that situation again. I'm gonna be able to speak like I want to.
A
Yeah, maybe. Men don't really like women. That's what it gives to me.
B
I think it's the other way around.
A
No, I mean, if. Because I don't feel the same that you're. You guys are saying, I want to be alone. I like to be.
C
No, that's not it.
A
This is what you.
C
Listen that. This is what you got. Really like women, y' all are emotional. Y' all more compassionate than us. Y' all love the fact of being touched, held, and all of that. Men, when we. By ourselves, this is our opportunity to kind of, like, think about the future. Think about how. Because we think. We ain't thinking about no. We ain't thinking about no girls or nothing like that. We think of like, man, how I'm gonna get money, how I'm gonna do this, how I'm gonna grow as a person. How I'm always kind of thinking like, damn, how can I get better? What else I can do? What else can I venture into? What else is gonna make me a better person? I'm always like, damn. But I can think of it.
B
Because Paul is talking about some real shit. But when that girl is sitting next to you after you sleep, you can't think.
C
I can't think.
B
Oh, brother. Why you think you can't think?
C
Cause she right here.
B
Most of the time, you sitting next to a motherfucker that's trying to control you. And when you don't allow them to control you, they really become mad at you. So once I start talking to you like I need to talk to you. Understand that word, need. Like I need to talk to you. I understand it's probably finna be over. Cause if you got an attractive woman, she got other options besides you. And I'm gonna tell you what you need to hear. So most of the time, I'll be. I mean, shit, every time I say bye, I think it's the last time I'm gonna see you.
C
It could be, though. That's a good. That's a good mindset.
B
Cause I ain't gonna switch it up. If I thought I could switch it up, I would, but I'm not. I like this man right here. I don't want to be that. What you talking about? But don't you want to know? I Want what I want. And if I can't get it, fuck it.
C
Damn.
B
I want what I want. But don't you get tired? No, I don't get tired. I fuck different bitches all the time. What?
C
That's honest.
B
Am I evil for that?
C
No.
B
It's my right to do it. Right. If I can afford them, I should be able to knock them down.
C
Absolutely.
B
So if you sit next to a woman after you have sex with her, what else is there to talk about? Unless she's a very special person. Cause it's very rare that you meet that one that you can really kick it with. The most honest thing you can do is go on a boat cruise with somebody. That's when you find out if y' all can make it. Cause you can't lead a boat.
C
Yeah, vacation, a vacation.
B
That should be a TV show. Love Boat was phony. You be on them boats, say fuck you, motherfucker. Let me, motherfucker. Sleep outside on the cabanas.
C
Yeah.
B
They can't be in the room with them people.
C
I think it's 20. If you could spend 14 straight days with a lady, that's the number that's amazing. That's you marriage material. And it don't end in like super arguing. And y' all don't hate each other after 14 straight days.
B
Have you ever done something like that before?
C
Yeah, I did that before.
B
You've been with somebody for 14 days?
C
Yeah, I got married. I got married to him. I was like, damn, that was my first time.
B
Oh, you said you got married. I got married to go through it. Oh, okay.
C
Yeah, yeah. But like, you know, like I. Cuz I never been nowhere before. I haven't. I was never really traveled like that. So I planned a 21 day trip and everything. Just like to travel the world a little bit.
B
Now that you smarter, wiser, Paul.
C
Yeah, a lot smarter, a lot wiser
B
that you can really be with a woman for 14 days in a row.
C
I think if it's the right woman, you know, I think there's always. Cause like, when you start being around somebody, they start. Y' all start kind of like understanding each other's kind of like tendencies and stuff. You know what she like? You know what she don't like. You could be with somebody, understand like you could have a girl and she know that you feeling a certain way and will walk out the room and go sit in another room or something and just know, all right, I need to just. I need to let him. If you can find something like that. Cause it's been situations like that. Like you could read the room. You get a girl, I could read the room. Like she's sitting with you and she like, you know what, I'm about to go. And she, you like, damn. Okay, wait.
B
If she said she finna go, she, you fucking with me. If you around a girl and she be like, I'm finna go.
C
Cause she feel like he needs some alone time. She thinking like that, like.
B
But you know, every time you talk to me, it means something. I know that about a woman. Everything you say to me, it means something. So if you tell me I'm finna go, that's an aggressive little phrase to me right there.
C
I'm finna go, not necessarily like that. Like, you know, I know you need some space right now. You want some. I'll go grab some food, come back or I'll see you tomorrow, the next day or something like that. You know, it's a way to put it. But it's a lady that can read the room and it's great at that. And it's hard. It's hard to find those ones though. Cause most women get on your damn nerves.
B
If a girl say, I'm finna go, I know me, I'm gonna be like, well, go bitch. I know me. Now if a girl what now? If a girl say, all right baby, I'm gonna catch you later or whatever. She's talking to me like that. I'm going to respond to her positively, just like she's responding to me. But I know what I'm finna go
C
with as an attitude, right? That is gonna go as an attitude.
B
I got you by a couple of years. I'm 56.
C
But you're gonna go is an attitude. I'm gonna go, that's an attitude.
B
Well, get the on funk ass on right. Don't talk to me like that. Damn. Look, do you know if. If a woman is really doing right by you? I'm talking about if she really is doing right by you, she has to learn how to do right by you. Because how we was brought up, naturally, most girls are not brought up around a father who is going to take the time to show them some of the things that may be in the Bible or just some real game on dealing with a man. They train us to please the woman in society. I'm not here to please you. I'm going to do right by you because that's who I am. But soon as you're insanity starts to show, I'll. I'm ready for It. I'm ready for it. Don't tell me I'm finna go get the on. I meant that. Get the on there. But if you say me, hey, all right, baby, look, I'm gonna get up out of here and do this. Whatever. Or say it in a way where I understand you don't have aggressiveness. Aggressiveness in your tone. I'm going to always be respectful to you. Yeah. There's one girl I know now that I argue with and I just be laughing. I do it for fun. I tell her, I used to be married to a like you. So I already know what's up. This is fun to be. Cause you could never mean nothing to me because you didn't challenge me too many times. You didn't. Yeah. One day she said fuck you to me. I was laughing so hard, I was like. But she's in the struggle mode of her life. So I knew she'd be back. What you gonna do? You gonna go out there and get your life together? You'll be back. That's why I date in poverty, so I can. This is a game. This is a game. But see, what if you try hard and you try to look for an equal, and you get the same results I get. But I know what I'm doing, right? That's what I say to some men. Do you really know how to pick a woman? I don't know how to pick a woman. I know how to get a woman. I got some money, right? I got some money, man. I don't care what they say. I ain't even got to be cute to you. You need these 1520s, right? These 15. You did it. Stop acting like you don't need it.
C
Not the 15.
B
Yeah. Seven something dollars an hour. I mean, 70 something dollars a gallon now. Ain't it out here? California, it's high out here. It ain't just high in Texas. Yeah. You can't be acting like I'm nothing and I'm disposable. Don't do yourself like that. Look at your children. They want you to make up with me.
C
It don't get no realer than that. I ain't gonna lie. This might be one of the just realest conversations.
B
Just like, oh, man, it ain't front, Paul. I got my flaws.
C
I believe everything you say.
B
I got my flaws, man. But I'm not gonna dog out nobody that's around me. But you can't have an attitude when you around me. Because what I've been trained for and I've trained. I've been trained. Trial by error, Right? I still love my wife and miss my wife, but God damn it, since she left, I was like, you know, I didn't even know life was this good. Yeah, I ain't got to worry about. I used to have to worry about taking a shower coming in. You was out there with them bitches, even though I was out there with the bitches. You don't know that I want to take a shower. How you know it's better if I get in bed with a shower? I got street juice all over me, baby. You don't want me to get in bed with you like that. Oh, my gosh.
C
That. I mean, man. So what you got going right now? What you. What you doing?
B
I'm rolled. I'm road dog, man. I'll be out there on the road. But I just recently got an agent because I hadn't been around agencies or nothing like that. But I've recreated myself as this guy. So this is what I'm trying to sell in Hollywood. Can this character be in a movie or something like that? So that's why I got an agent, and I'm back out there in the Hollywood game. I've been on a couple auditions. It was funny to do this again, you know what I mean? Cause I've been away from it. Hollywood might be interested in a guy like me. You know what I'm saying? I'll be shocked. The people who know me, like the people at Family Guy. I did a voice on that. The Cleveland Show.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
I was so shocked when they knew me. One of the guys, he was like, Corey Hoka. I was like, you, boo. Said, y' all know me. So you know, this. This guy that I. This character that I display in public, he gets on some people nerve. But you know what I'm saying? It's a lane for that, right?
C
For sure. Yeah, for sure.
B
It's a lane for that. So we'll see what happens with the Hollywood lifestyle as I am chasing that a little bit now.
C
Definitely.
A
Well, it was so good to have you on.
B
I had a ball with y'.
A
All.
C
That's raw and uncut right there.
B
This is the look. I want to say this to you because I'm sincere as I speak to you. I probably did use that word when I was talking about you. But I. I just met you, and I promise you, I will always be respectful to you. Just because you up under this man. Also, that means a lot, because you up under this man. And this man, in my opinion, I got A lot of respect for him. Cause I know a couple of his guys. So it's good that women are up under a man in some way because that also gets you respect.
A
Yeah.
B
Somebody who love you will tell you that if you represented by somebody. You know what I'm.
C
You know what I mean?
B
So even though I said that, it's not personal, I believe that you're a beautiful woman.
A
Thank you so much.
B
I did a little research on you and stuff like that. I love the way you keep yourself together.
A
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. And honestly, you were great energy and I'm really grateful that we have you on the show.
C
I'm so glad. She's very strong, opinionated, and she's very. She has a certain type of presence about her that, like, that's real. Like, she does. And I'll just be like, okay, okay.
B
No, no, look.
C
That almost beat this girl butt ass one night.
B
I didn't know she was this big
C
man you keep talking about.
B
This ain't no little short woman.
C
Right? Right.
B
Like I'm a man. So I'm keeping it real. And I mean this with all. When she got up and walked over there, I was like, oh, we've been
C
trying to get her to stand up. Everybody. Everybody thinks she like. Everybody think you five, three, you know, you want to show everybody you kind of tall. And it's not a stallion.
B
See that girl who call herself Meg the stallion? That's a male horse. I would never call a woman a stallion. But this. This girl is you. You, You. You. You don't see her on the camera like that.
C
No, you don't.
B
When she get up and walk away, you be like, oh, I get it. I see. Yeah, Paul, I see. I get it.
C
You said you was gonna stand for the camera.
A
I'm not standing up. No. I also have heels on, but I am five' six and I do have. Yes, but. Which is natural, by the way.
B
Okay.
A
I don't have any. Any additions to the move to the butt. You know, no face work.
B
That's g. I love that.
A
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate.
C
For the true After Dark fans.
B
Oh, that's crazy. He almost did. Damn.
C
That's crazy. Corey, it was good to have you back.
A
Yeah. Thank you so much.
C
Raw and uncut. It don't get no realer than this. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, he says things that most of you men are thinking but are afraid to say.
B
Yes, sir.
C
Hey, man, come on, man, grow some balls. Say how you really feel. Hey, Take it from this guy right here, man. Where can they find you at? How can they follow you? Instagram, social media platforms.
B
Main thing I promote is Corey Holcomb 5150 Show.
C
Yeah.
B
If you like these type of conversations, come on over there and check me out. Let the journey begin. Just google Corey Holcomb 5150 show. We film every Tuesday night. We supposed to start at 8. We normally start about 8:15, 8:30. And I hope I wanna come on the show.
C
We talked about that. Yeah, we definitely.
B
I have Kwame on the show one day. Y' all cool?
C
Kwame Brown?
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah, I'm cool with Kwame. I ain't got no problem with Kwame. He said something about me.
B
No, he did. Kwame was mad cool, man.
C
I ain't got no beef with Kwame.
B
I be worried about NBA players because all of them got money, so they.
C
I don't got no beef with no former or current NBA player.
B
I love the fact that you said that. That shows confidence, bro. Yeah.
C
I ain't got no beef with none of them.
B
Love, man.
C
All of them.
B
He was one of the greatest. Open door, open arms.
C
It's all love. I know we competed and it looked a certain way, but, like, it ain't no. Nothing personal.
B
Nah, this ain't fake. You was one of the greatest ever do it, man. Paul, you appreciate it. You hall of Famer.
C
Appreciate that.
B
Real talk. That's real. But he is a Hall of Famer.
C
Right outta Inglewood, baby.
B
Inglewood. Come on.
A
Well, thank you again and for all the women that just do not like Corey, I can tell you he is very nice and he's a gentleman, despite.
B
If you need, you know what you may need, you need the 15, 20.
A
So, yeah, hit him up. He takes her at 400 pounds, baby. So.
B
That's right. Come on out of here. Let me be an asset in your life.
C
You know, she used to be like, 300, man.
B
I'm telling you. I did a little research on this lady. I did research on this lady. That's why I was saying. It's like, oh, my God. Okay. When I came in, it was a little uncomfortable because I knew I was. Oh, what I do? Did I say something? Cause sometimes I flip my mouth off.
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
And then she was like. I called a. I was like, oh, silly. And I didn't know you.
A
I can't call you now. I. I get it. I understand. Trust me, I understand. I get it. But we do appreciate you. People on our show have been asking for you to come on here for so long. Like, you're the number one requested person to come on our show.
B
Really?
C
Yeah.
B
I'm telling you.
A
Absolutely. I'm not even lying. Everybody's been wanting you on our show, so we've been wanting you to come on for some such a long time. So I'm so grateful that we have you today. And I know they're gonna love this episode.
B
I'm glad I did it. Y' all was a ball man, y'. All.
A
Thank you. Thank you.
B
And I was. I was late.
C
No, that's all good, man. Everybody late.
A
It's all good. It wasn't that bad. It wasn't an hour. Okay, maybe like 40 minutes. So that wasn't too bad.
C
One time.
B
People love you, Paul, man. This thing gonna go where it supposed to go, man. People love you, Paul. Appreciate it. Real talk, man. I ain't being phony. I'm saying, like. And you got confidence. Yeah, yeah. If. If I can say this real quick.
A
Yeah.
B
I want to say to Shannon Sharp, I love you, brother. I know I was messing with you on the. On the fruit booty side of the game, but there was jokes, brother.
C
There was jokes.
B
I love you, brother. Shannon Sharp, man. You was one of the greatest to ever do it. So if you ever see this, please don't think I got something personal against you. I love you, brother. I hope that you get all good things that's supposed to come your way because I think he'd be feeling like I don't like him or something. Respecting.
C
There you have it.
A
Love that.
C
The one and only raw nut cut. Corey Holland.
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Welcome. Thank you.
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: June 8, 2026
Comedian Corey Holcomb joins the Club Shay Shay podcast for an unfiltered conversation, diving into controversial moments from his career and industry, personal philosophies on relationships and fame, and his unapologetically honest takes on recent media scandals. Topics include his vocal criticisms of Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, reflections on the comedy world and “roast” culture, the controversy with Aries Spears, and an on-air apology to Shannon Sharpe. Throughout, Corey’s candid, streetwise humor and worldview set the tone, resulting in a raw and provocative discussion.
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This episode blends raw, often controversial comedy with serious reflections on masculinity, honesty, the entertainment industry, and Black men’s experiences in love and Hollywood. Corey Holcomb’s candor makes for a confronting, memorable listen—one that’s as likely to challenge listeners as it is to amuse them.