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Welcome back to Deebo and Joe. I'm your host James Debo Harrison and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. Hey, how you doing today Joe?
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Doing good brother. Debo Doing good man. Always good to be with you. Watched another game. I know that's your type of game. Defensive special defensive specialist out there.
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DBS. Oh yeah. DB's did their thing out there. No question about that baby.
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Yes sir.
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Question about that. Let's get on, head into it man. Let's get Green Bay start off with the rock. They actually get a good return, bro. I think it's almost to the fourth and then like they just go, Jacob's crazy. First down he get a run for five. Second they pass it 20 for six. The next first I think he's three yards. Then second he gets four yards. Third down he get two and they end up going for on fourth with the quarterback sneak. And they missed that offside, but they ended up getting that sneak anyway. Then they right back to Jacobs. I think he only got, like, maybe a yard if that on the next play. And then that second down, boy Love, he got sack sacked, and he almost lost that rock. Did you see that?
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Yes, bro. That's the Jordan Love. He was making some unnecessary plays. I don't think he played well in the game. We'll get to it. But that was just an initial one. Getting him out of field goal range. Like, you don't have to take a sack. He had a check down. He had a bunch of different places he could have went with that ball. But knocking them out of field goal range isn't. Isn't.
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Oh, yeah, no question. They. They end up having to punt. After they punt the rock, Philly gets the ball. They was doing a lot of positional stuff, you know what I'm saying? Making sure. Trying to stay. They make sure they stay ahead of the chains or within the chains. Philly, you know, came out there, and immediately they give it to Saquan. He bust him for three. Hurts hits Brown the next play for six. Then that. That third tush push area. They go for the tush push. I don't know how they missed this one. Dude, that was makeup D. That was the.
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That was the worst. That was the worst one of all time. He made contact with the defensive lineman before the ball.
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I'm like, how? I don't know that. That had to be a straight up makeup call, dude. There's no other way that that. That happened. Second down. Oh, dude. Say Quan, he break him a good one for 15, man. And then I think it was the second down pass. Well, it would have. Would have been a completion, but he was a hertz, was a little off on that one. They get a false start on the third, that brings him to third and 10. And then I think that was where I thought what's the name? Was gonna get him. They was doing a lot of that all night. Now I think about it, they was rushing past Hurts.
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Dude.
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He ends up being able to shake off, you know, bust loose, and I think he hit. Was it the running back Shipley, or.
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I think it was.
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He hit shipley on that third and 10 for 11. They're able to, you know, continue to keep going the next, you know, couple plays, staying ahead of the chains. I think they get to the third and five, and again, Herz, I think he hit SMITHER for what, eight right there, and he just sat down like. Like, why. I know the middle dude gotta keep going. Like, why you think they didn't, like, try and relate to that route? Like, it's third and five. Like, y'. All. Y' all sitting right here. Like, I. I don't know.
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Debo. That's bad. Bad boy.
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Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I ain't understand that. Because later on, they did the opposite, and they sat short on a long one, and dude was able to get it.
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I think they weren't trying to take the cheese. But at the same time, you got to be looking at the quarterback. If he's throwing that there, you got to be able to react.
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It looked like the middle backer was doing that, too, where he just straight off keep going down the field. You know what I'm saying? And then your other two, they're. They're. They're zoning right there. Like, somebody got to relate to that dude. Like, that's. That's just way too. Too much openness.
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Pitch and catch.
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Yeah, for sure. And then I think it was the third down coming up. Jalen take off. And Cooper, he made a great play, dude. I mean, just straight punch right into that thing, bro.
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It was.
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That's.
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That's a good. That's a good defensive play. You know, they getting into the red zone, and he. He was running it, and he got it right before he went to the ground. So it was a great defensive play. Hurt. You want to. Hurts. You wanted to protect the ball there, but you can't. You can't blame him. That's a great play. He's ball surgeon. He's looking to get.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, he wasn't. He wasn't. You know what? He was, like, that close from hitting the ground, too, though. Like, that. He was that close.
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Yeah.
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Green Bay get the ball back, and the next snap, dude, Love goes and, like, I don't know if he was trying to hand it off or what was going on. Like, he. He fumbles the rock. Like, they get lucky. He. It bounces right back to him, bro. They recovered for what? They lose two, three yards on that or that one or something. The next play, they end up getting the ball batted down. And what was it, third and, like, 14, 15, something like that? He scrambles. No, it was third and third and 13. He scrambled for 12. Dude. Like, he was going. Going for that dude. Yeah. Like, who's they, backup? Because I don't know if he. He got anywhere near the talented Love. You could. You could have lost all that right there. You know what I'm saying?
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No, for sure. You got to protect himself, man. He. They franchise, they.
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They end up going for it on the fourth down with the sneak, and the refs finally catch it. I don't know why they can't see this dude. They gonna have to make that a reviewable play or something, man. Like. Like, you gotta be able to review all. All sneaks, two pushes, whatever it is, bro.
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Debo, doesn't it throw you off, though, that they are so good at even getting a twitch for a false start? But you can't get people going all the way across the damn line before the ball is snapping? Hitting the defensive line, it's obvious, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can get a little. Like when the. Like when the guard moves back a little bit. They easily can throw that. If you see this dude falling forward before the ball is snapped, I'm like, ref, that's. It's too blatant that you can't be able to do that. And if you want to put it in replay, you obviously see people taking off, hitting people like that. It's just getting. It's getting crazy.
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Yeah, but they actually, they. They caught that one. I don't know. I think that's supposed to be something that might. I think there was only two short to vote short of losing that anyway last year, so that might be something that they'll. They'll actually get rid of. I don't. I hope they don't get rid of it. I hope they just make it like, yo, it's a quick New York review to make sure ain't nobody jump off sides.
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Yeah, I just. I feel you. I don't think it's. That. It's not that bad of a play, but you got to run it legally, snap the ball first, and then if you guys can't be able to get under us, then you're able to get under us, but don't be able to take all before. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just. That's just.
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No question. Philly get the ball back. The. The Green Bay, they ended up getting, what was it, two negative plays there. But I think it's more like, yes, the players, like, slipping, bro. Like, the. The tackle went to pull around, he slept, he slipped, sat right there. Get off the next play, Saquon got the little screen. He slipped, you know, couldn't get off. And I think third down, they just. Was just playing it safe, did a little run, they punt the rock to him. And Green Bay get the. Go get the ball back. And again they go. They go. Jacob's crazy. I think first down was a five yard run. Second down was 11. Then first down, three. Second down. They ended up losing a yard. And then third down, I think he got. He got six or whatever. Was that right? Yeah, because they went for the. You know, they tried to make like they was gonna go for it on fourth down, trying to get him to jump off size. Ain't nobody gonna do that stupid, you.
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Know, unless they cleave nobody go, you know, see, you got to hold your water.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You're right. You're right. That was just bad ball.
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Yeah. You know, they. They ended up putting the ball. And then the first play when Jalen ends up scrambling again and he throw that thing across, dude, I just knew somebody was about to.
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Was gonna book that.
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I just. The way they was playing, I'm like, yo, somebody's gonna snatch that right there. Yeah. Ended up getting eight. And then again, like I said, them DBs was balling.
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Second down, it's balling, bro.
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Sitting on those in there and makes a nice breakup, dude. Third down, they get the incompletion again. The db, he was right there. I think if he threw that, he.
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Was ready to undercut that on the money.
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If it wasn't wide, I think he's gone.
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No, no, for sure. That's why he threw that ball. That's why the DB was sitting there like this. He went to go break on it and the nose passes. If it was a completed pass, it have been completed to the db. So it's either you going to have to throw that ball out of bounds, brother, and be incompletion later, fight another down, or he's going to take.
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I think it was just an off throw. Like, dude hadn't even really broke broke yet for him to try and adjust in the middle of the throw.
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Yeah, yeah, you just. It was bad. Sometimes that works out in your favor.
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Yeah, yeah. Philly, they gone ahead, and the punter, he shanks the ball, ends up giving it to him at the 42. Now Green Bay got a. Got a short field. You thinking they might, you know, they might be able to do something. But again, dude, like the DBs, dude, they making some nice breakups, dude, like. Like on both sides of the ball. They get to. I think it was a third and eight and he gets the ball batted down. They end up punting. Philly get the rock again. First down, they stand Ahead Saquan, he gets another. Gets another seven. They end up getting offsetting on the next play where they had. I think they had a nice gain on that 1/3 and 2. I think it was like a pass interference. They gave him another first and then they go false start and a holding in back to back. End up going to a first and 25, bruh. They end up punting the ball. They get the. They. They get the ball down at the 8, but they got a holding call. They make them re kick it. So Philly got to re kick it. And now they end up returning it and getting the ball at like, I think it was like the 30 or 35 or something like that, dude. Like that re kick. You ever been on special teams when they got to do the re kick, dude?
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Yes, brother. You're exhausted.
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Exhausted. They don't know. You don't know how much effort you put into that one play.
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Oh, man, that gunner, you gotta run down that thing full speed. And you getting jumped.
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No question. You getting double team. You get. You getting beat. You getting beat all the way down there, dude, man. The first down, Green Bay. Get the ball. Love connect for eight. I think Jacobs ends up picking up this the first down on. On second down with a five yard run. And Jacobs again, bruh. Another five yards. Second down. Love scrambled on that thing, man. I just knew he was saying, I'm like, I ain't. I. I couldn't see how he got out of that one.
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Yeah, no escapability. Love got good. Your Love got good athleticism.
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Yeah, dude. Love his Jacobs, I think, for another nine. And then leading up to that next first down, Love got sacked, dude. Like, this.
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Is this the one?
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We think the one where he fumbled this, this, this. This had a. A lot of. He fumbled on the next one, though. This had a lot of like, just coverage pressures and sacks, dude. Like.
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No, for sure.
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They was playing nowhere to go with the ball. And like you said, on that next second down, that's where, you know, he gets sacked and he tries to like, get the ball out and throw it, you know, Just doing too much at that time, you know? Yeah, I think they were in field goal range at that point or something like that was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's.
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They was on the 27 yard line, brother.
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Yeah, Philly.
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So that. That's what the thing with. With Love when I was watching the game too. Like, you just can't. They was in the first drive when they was in field goal range and he put them out of field Goal range by taking the sack. And then before halftime, somehow we need to get points and you just doing too much. Losing the Rock trying to do just go down with it or throw it out of bounds, get.
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He couldn't do nothing where he already had his hand wrapped up. He trying to switch it to the other hand, lose it. Like, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
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Just doing too much, though, brother. I'm just saying right there, we could have had six points, ended up losing by three. But those are just six easy buckets or three.
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It could have been old, you know what I'm saying? It could have been overtime. Like, worst case. Worst case is what happened. They turned the ball.
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Worst case.
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Philly get the. You know, Philly get the ball back. And again, dude, they. They running past. They running past hurts, man. He scrambles, he gets out of the pocket for, you know, I think it was like maybe 3, 4 yards, something like that. And like, at what point do you like, say to your pass rushes, hey, don't rush past this dude, man. This is not Joe Flacco. You can't rush past him and hope to circle back around. He's going to take off. Yeah.
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You're creating passing, you're creating escape lanes for him, and he's going to use them.
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Yeah. And you know, it's coming towards the end of the half. They just do a fourth down where they're just trying to burn the clock out. They burn the clock out, throw it out of bounds. It's a Great half, though. Man. Zero. Zero, man.
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00. That's.
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That's. That's my kind of game, baby.
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No, and it was. Defense was making plays. Defense was making plays. They was forcing turnovers when they got into the red zone, you know what I'm saying? Sacking them when they were in field goal range. So defenses were stepping up. I knew, I knew this was your type of game.
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This is what football should look like.
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I started realizing now, Deebo, the more I become a fan, that I become kind of not. I want the defense. Like, I don't like false pass interferences. Like, I see offense gets away with everything. But you do kind of want to see, like, are they doing bad or is the defense doing good? So on some of the plays, you don't know what it is. I'm like, I like it. But like, hold on, the defense is strapping on you like this, man. That's a bad pass. I'm like, no, it's a good ass play by the db, you know what I'm saying? So It's a little bit of both. Like, both getting paid at the same time. So it's like, is that bad? But it's like, nah, these dudes are also good, you know, no question.
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Philly come out, they get the ball in the third quarter again, staying ahead. First play, Saquon, he runs it for seven. They end up getting to that next, I believe, first down. And he hits, he hits Goddard like 22 again. This is a situation where, like, yo, like, ain't nothing in front of him this time though. Like, so, like, keep going back, they end up. Keep sinking. They end up settling. And, you know, he. He gets it, he gets it behind him, you know. The next play, I think Hurts missed the tight end. Like, he had that. Like, that would have been. That would have been money right there if he was able to short that. They give it to Saquon. He hit another six. It puts him, you know, in that third down. I think they hit Goddard again for eight. The first down. I think he scrambled again. Again, I think he scrambled for what, another five, six or something like next. I think Walker, what was it? He shot through that thing? Boy, solid tackle for a negative.
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Oh, yeah. Tackle for loss. That was a good play.
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That was a good play right there. Like, I like seeing stuff like that. They end up getting a delayed game on third down. They go to third and 12 again. I'm thinking, you know, they playing it safe because they know they within field goal range. So they go ahead, play it safe. They get a, they get a field goal. First score. Just what, first score of the game?
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3:0.
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Nine minutes or over nine minutes left in the third quarter, bro. 3, 0. Man, I'm loving this, man. Like, this is what, this is what, this is what I like to see, man. I don't even know what people understand like, like when you, when you, when you defensive minded. I want to see. I want to see everybody play good on both sides. Like, when I'm watching somebody that I don't root for, I want to see everybody play good on both sides. That way I see a good, good game. You know, that's kind of like Pittsburgh, Cleveland. I understand how you feel on that, but I only feel like that because I have no loyalty to any of them.
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You have no loyalty to the team.
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So I don't know how you can feel like that. And you say you got loyalty to both, but anyway.
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See, it's the complete opposite of what you saying, you know, when you don't have no loyalty to either team, it's the complete opposite. I have all my loyalty.
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Oh, so it seems when you don't have none here and when you have.
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You don't have none. You could just look at it from an outsider. When I got it from so much, then I'm looking at it from the. We got the same perspective, but just completely different.
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I got you. I got you. Green Bay. Get out there. Love hit Watson for 20. Like, you know, they moving the ball a little bit. They staying ahead of the chains a little, you know. And then Hunt, I think he made a nice play, dude. For that loss.
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Yes.
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Was it four yard loss. That was. That was nice. That was nice. Second down, Love ends up scrambling for about five and third down. Dude, that was a great pass, dude, great pass. But he couldn't hold on to it. Dobbs could not hold on to that thing, buddy. Yes.
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He got a snatch.
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Oh, all day, bro.
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You gotta snatch.
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He ended up going for it on.
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4Th and 4th and 9.
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Here's the crazy thing. It would have been a first down if, if. Who was it? Was it Milton Melton hadn't dropped the ball? Like that's a first down for sure. He's there. Clear it.
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Okay. Only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first there, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes. Bumps off of him. I thought at first the DB made a play. He didn't like. It just bumped off of him.
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Yeah, he was in a good spot, though.
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Oh, yeah. He would have made the tackle for sure, but dude dropped the rock. So they end up. Yeah, they end up turning it over on downs. Philly get the ball back. I'm thinking it might be a little bit of trouble, but, dude, Green Bay, they stand up three and out.
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I mean, three and out quick.
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Yeah. I mean, of course, with that, you know that. What was it, six yards? Negative six yards. Like, nobody blocked.
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That's gonna say nobody blocked.
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He went free. He dropped Saquon. Like, how do you not block him? Like, he's right there. He's one of the one up front. Like, how you don't block the D linement, bro. I don't even. Make no sense. They end up having to punt the Rock. Green Bay get it back. They start feeding Jacobs again. He get. He get 11 on the first down. I think the next first down, they hit Wicks for 20. You know, later, I think he love. Ends up hitting Watson for 22. But they got that illegal formation that killed it, bro.
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Killed the whole drive.
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The whole drive. Again, the DBs make a nice play. That repeated that second down. You know, that third down coverage is great. Again, he ended up having to scramble and throw it away. They punt the Rock. Philly get it back. Like, it starts to have a little bit of breakdown. Little bit of breakdown.
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Yes. This. You can. You can only fight for so long. You can only fight for so long. Zaquan is still also getting paid $20 million a year as the best running back in the league. So how long?
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No question, bro. That third. That third and seven. They gave him that little short one. Dude, dude. I knew dude wasn't gonna get him. I'm like, he either go running around him or he gonna run over it, bro.
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He's gon.
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Man, he's going to something. Something's going to. He's not about to tackle. It's so much open space. I couldn't even see him once when he first caught the ball like. Yes.
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No, put him in. No, put him in the spin cycle.
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All the way spin cycle. Dude, if I'm. I ain't gonna even lie to you, bro. If I'm not. If that's me right there and I'm coming up to tackle him, I'm not even breaking down. I'm gonna take my shot.
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You gotta shoot your shot.
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I'm going to shoot. You got to shoot your mind in the dark and hope that he don't think I'mma do it and do a stutter.
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All that, all that, all that little slowing down, trying to chop your feet is going to get you broke down.
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Exactly what he got. Exactly what he got, man. Then the next play hurts. Go ahead and lay that thing out to Smith, man. That was a nice play, man. That was good.
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That's how you make a play on the ball.
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36 yard touchdown is 10 to Nathan. Thinking green bang really did too much work on it, you know what I'm saying? I'm thinking it might be over with. And then rebate come out there, bro. They go 11 plays, 77 yards score. Touchdown, bro. Of course, with the help, big PI, 20 plus PI. And of course Jacob, he finished it off with the six yard touchdown, bruh.
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Yeah.
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It's seven to ten with just under six minutes left in the four. We got a game. Game now, dude. We got a gang game. Philly, get up out there. I think they was able to do about, what was it, nine or ten plays. But the big one was that third. I thought it was over. They got that third down completion. Third and 12.
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Yeah. Third and 12 to Devonte Smith. Oh. I was like, oh, that's. That's good money, bruh.
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I'm like, yeah. I don't, I don't know if that's. I don't know if they're gonna be able to slow this down, man. They go and start doing a little, little running here and there. I think they forced Green Bay at that point to maybe call one timeout because, yeah, on the third and eight they go and they pass the ball. It stops the clock. If they had ran it, they would have used up another. They'd had to at least use up another timeout some time off the clock. And they end up, I think giving Green Bay the ball back with like almost 220 left on the clock or something like that.
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E
Exactly.
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A
Green Bay, they go ahead get to. I think it was like a third and ten. Ten love.
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Yep.
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A
Next again to that boy Watson for 25 and it's just now the two minute warning, bro. Like, I'm like, yo, this could, you know, this could be interesting, dude.
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E
No, for sure, bruh.
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A
I hate that it was Jacobs, bruh. It had to be him, man. He was doing so well.
- [26:33]
E
Yes, he was. And they tried to get. Try to give him that rock.
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Rock he got that first time. I think he had like four, five yards. And then he fumbled that thing, right, Cole. Philly recovered his son. I'm like, okay. They still, you know, they still gotta. They got a few timeouts. They might be able to, you know, stop them. Green Bay then I think they ended up stopping them. Stopping Saint Quan on the Saquon on the first two runs. And they had timeouts, so they was able to call their timeouts. And then, I don't know why they went for it. On the fourth time.
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E
On fourth and sixth, they threw the fade ball like to. I. I didn't understand that at all. Your defense has been balling. Give them punt the joint down there, and then they only going to have like 20 something, you know? You know what I thought?
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A
You know what I thought they were about to do? I thought they were about to do a quick kick where you snap it to the.
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E
Oh, I know. Okay.
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Snap it to the quarterback and then. They don't have quarterback back there. They're not thinking about that. He punted. And then y' all just go on cover.
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That's right down there, about to do.
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And then I'm like, dude, they actually threw the rock. Like, that's crazy, bro.
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E
Yeah, bro.
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A
Get the ball back down. That first down, he throws that thing up. Dude, if it wasn't for that coverage, we be. We'd be talking. We'd be talking about a different score right now, I believe. Second down, they ended up getting one for 18. And then they. They go for the field goal. Dude went on ahead and got him a quick practice kick. I see him saying, snap it. Snap it. After they called the timeout, he snapped the kick. Yeah, it was like, hey, trying to get the action. My leg ain't gonna get there, baby. All right, come on, let the Dolphins go back out there. See if we can't pick up a quick, you know, five, five, six yard out or something. They not able to complete that. They like, hell, ain't no time left. They put him back out there.
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E
We gotta do it.
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And you know, he. He sank the ball. Philly, go ahead and win 10 to 7, bro. Listen, that's my type of game, man. I likes that. I don't think it get no better than that, baby.
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E
I feel like it was really good defense like you said, Deebo, on both sides of the ball. I feel like both quarterbacks definitely underperform. But sometimes, like you said, it's either the defense is doing it to you, you're applying pressure, or you getting pressure applied to you. So I think them playing sticky man to man, you know what I'm saying? That made situations tough. But those. The fumbles, you know what I'm saying? The. In the red zones, the sacks that Jordan Love took, I don't think that was good for you, know what I'm saying? Like, those are just mistakes that you took points off the board for your team. But it was a. I can't take nothing. Philly's defense or Green Bay defense, because they were out there.
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A
It came down to Philly's defense played better then Green Bay's defense did. And then Green Bay's offense didn't make those chunk plays. Didn't get those. Those situational things together. Where Philly. They got chunk plays, dude. Like, they only had. What was it, three chunk plays all together. That was. That was like. That's all it took. And they did it at times. That helped them put points on the board. In Green Bay, they. They weren't able to. The defense I like, dude. I like seeing that defense outplayed the other defense. The offense made the plays when they needed to. The other defense made the plays when they needed to. The combination of the two, they came through with the W. This is what good on good football looks like, people. It shouldn't be 45 to 43 and y' all think it's a great game. No, it's not. That was trash.
- [30:23]
E
Yes.
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A
Like, that was trash.
- [30:27]
E
No, for sure. There wasn't a lot of missed tackles, you know what I'm saying? There's. People are on their alignments, assignments, techniques. There's red zones. They're making plays when they need to. Like, don't think the. The Eagles are a good offensive team.
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A
The.
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The Green Bay is a good officer team. Jacobs is a great running back, you know what I'm saying, Love, he's been able to cut people up when these dudes are in position making plays. These third downs where tight coverages, you know what I'm saying? He's throwing out of bounds. Cause hopefully if not it would have been a pick six. So it's really good seeing defenses like that being able to step up, perform, and on the offensive side of the ball, you know that there's plays to be made, and there's things that were left on the field. But when you're in Philly, you're still able to walk out of that stadium with a dub knowing your defense balled out and offense, there's so much left on the bone for us to be able to score points, be able to make these plays.
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And both, Both head coaches, like, yo, it's going to be a dog fight. Like, we know what's going on. We're not going to sit here and be and break ourself into, you know, doing ridiculous plays that we know aren't going to. Aren't going to succeed. We go have to earn, get it down there and pick our spots of where we're going to try and get a chunk play here and there. You know, coaches were smart. Speaking of head coaches, bro, they. They announced that they fired your boy Dubal over there in. What was it, New York? Yeah, buddy.
- [31:43]
E
Over.
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A
And I think they said the GM is staying. Is that right? Yeah, bruh. How does that work?
- [31:56]
E
I don't know. I don't know.
- [31:59]
A
You agree with. You disagree. You think it's too late, too soon? You. You know what? This is me. This is what I. This is just my personal feeling.
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E
Please tell me.
- [32:09]
A
If I didn't firing at the end of 24, I would have definitely fired him, like, at least three, four weeks ago. Like, okay, you. At the end of 24, they lost 10 straight, bruh. That was a franchise record, bro. Like, they lost 10 straight. Okay. On top of that, maybe he was able to talk him into saying, like, hey, it's not me. He set Jones down and then he got rid of Jones. Okay. And then, yeah, oh, Daniel. Jones went over there and showed that, hey, this ain't me over there.
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E
It was not my fault.
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A
So now you looking back and you like, oh, maybe it wasn't him. Recent history, you know, it shows that the ball, you can't even hold a lead to get the win.
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E
That's. That's what I'm saying.
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A
Like, I don't understand the don't get rid of the GM part unless you're saying the GM had no power to make any kind of decisions and you gave all the power to the head coach to make the decisions on who you get and what you're doing. Everything else. That's the only way I can see that you still hold on to the gm. Like.
- [33:32]
E
This whole situation, I'm. I'm more of a. How do you feel about. I'm more of a coach. I like when the coach and the GM are more married to each other because you gotta like work together. You're gonna be giving the coach the players and the coach, you gotta have a relationship. I, I like that more. I think that works out more smooth than gm you just get to coach the players and now he got to deal with whatever you got him, whatever you give them.
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A
I understand what you're saying, you know, at I think that's how it should work. But I think most places one person has more power than the other because when it comes down to it and I say yes, you say no. Who's the deciding buck?
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E
Stop somewhere.
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A
Yeah. Which way do it go do it go to do it do it go to head coach way or do it do it go to GM's way? So maybe this is a situation where it just kept going ahead coach way. Maybe you know, they're saying the, the inter head coach is going to be the OC, you know, and he had been there since 2022 or something like that. He came in with, with, with day ball. So maybe that was a situation where dude came out of Kansas City, he was in KC for like five years, something like that over there with, with Pat Mahomes and them. And maybe he wanted to keep Daniel, you know what I'm saying? I just like playing advocate, just like getting stuff started, you know, maybe he wanted to keep Daniel Jones, he saw what it could be. But the ball was like no, I gotta get rid of him. I gotta save my own ass because like I don't want to get fired.
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E
No, no, no. For sure. I think they get, I mean dabo, he went 20, 40 and 1, double losses, come on 20, 40 and 1. And then this year blew three 10 point leads. So I mean that's just not good. And then I think with Jackson Dart, seeing what you have there with the getting rid of the head coach instead of gm, I don't know how they really are doing that because I'm not rocking with the gm. I don't think as much. Aren't the GM the one that got rid of Saquon Barkley and Daniel Jones?
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A
Ooh, was he the same dude there?
- [35:44]
E
I'm thinking so. So I'm looking at it like at the end of the day, all y' all gotta go. We need to take care of Dart because we actually do have a pretty good quarterback. We need to get him protected with the offensive line. I think Dark needs to kind of take care of himself, protect himself. He already got damn near 4 concussions already rookie season. So Line being able to make sure you protect this dude and not making him get hit upside the head all the time. He got to be able to slide, get the ball out of his hands. Cause I, I like dart. I think he's really good. Well, you gotta help players.
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A
Some of those things.
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You gotta. No, he got to protect himself and they got to not call as many running plays. You know what I'm saying? So he got to be able to get the ball out of his hand. So I'm more with. If you're getting rid of Debo, you need to get rid of that whole GM that made bad decisions of getting rid of Saquon and Daniel Jones. It's just a whole little bit of messed up whole thing over there. Start fresh knowing you got a good quarterback. Get somebody that's. That's going to help out Dart that believes in him. A GM that loves that, that believes in Dart. I think when you bring people in, you have a quarterback, you got a nice running back. Scatterble. You have some young pieces. The receiver too. My man that was with lsu, he's been hurt all year. So you don't have your number one. Like you're out there playing with all your pieces still aren't out there. So it's not like you don't have talent. They have talent. You got a quarterback that I really like. You need to protect them and bring in a GM and a coach that also believe in him.
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A
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like I said, I'm getting rid of the gm. Speaking of getting rid of, I guess the Steelers cut the safety, Thornhill. Yeah, like, I don't know if that's a big move. He wasn't.
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E
I don't really think he was doing.
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A
Much like they made like it was about to make a move. Move. I don't. That's the move. Move.
- [37:30]
E
I mean, we, we got in the dude, Kyle Duggar, the young dude, safety 29 that he. Soon as he came in, he's been playing a lot better. He hasn't been missing assignments. I haven't seen too much like he's making tackles. Communication really hasn't been too. I mean, if you see him stepping there and I haven't seen any downfall and they said that he got. Thornhill ended up getting demoted. So he's been playing kind of more.
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A
Right. You ain't getting no regular snaps. You own special teams. You ain't getting no regular snaps. You know, no, no spot. Especially as a, you know, as a safety. Like you're supposed to be in there on Them. The nickel packages. Something that. That for sure relevant, especially when all you're doing is special teams. Yeah.
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E
So, I mean, I'm glad. I mean, I'm not glad that they got rid of him, but I just seen Kyle Duggar that's in there, and he hasn't been playing bad at all. He's just been in position. Not too many flashes. But if your name isn't being called sometimes as a db, that's a good thing. You know what I'm saying?
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A
Right, right, right. Dude, did you look at that? The. The photo of Aaron, bro?
- [38:32]
E
Did I. I think I sent it to you. Listen, bro, that looks uncomfortable.
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A
Can we even put that picture up? Can we put that picture up, please, man?
- [38:44]
E
It's right. Yeah.
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A
Screen's so small, bro. Hey, bud, that. That. That. That's one of them. That's one of them hits that you see a boxer get where it distort his whole face, you can't even tell. Yes. You know?
- [38:57]
E
Yes. Like, jump, catch him on slow motion. We don't freeze frame my dog. We put him in. That's. That. That's a very vulnerable position. And that's Buzz. No question.
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A
No question. So was that a sack or was.
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E
It a. I think it might have been a. I think it was a sack.
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A
I like starting talking, you know, I like. I like. You know, I like starting stuff, man. So isn't that helmet to helmet?
- [39:24]
E
That is for sure. Helmet. Do you think you see his helmet?
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A
He go get him a envelope of FedEx.
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E
Only reason he may not was because he was. Because he was running. Because he was running the ball. But he still. He still might get him.
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A
I don't want it to happen because.
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E
I don't want it to happen here.
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A
Then, dude, it's bad. He didn't lower his head. He didn't do nothing. He just ran over there and tackled the man. He didn't even really put any knee bend into it.
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D
So.
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A
No. Find him on this, man. We defense. Y' all in trouble.
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E
I'm a text bud and see if he got fine. I hope.
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A
Check it out. See if he got fine, bro. See if he got fine.
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E
And I hope if we get fine, it's not because we. Because it's on our. Because it's on the show and we like dry snitching on them, man.
- [40:17]
A
Listen. I ain't listening to us. Hell, they don't pay no attention, especially if it's me. Whatever I say, they go do the opposite. You know what I'm saying? Find the hell out of him, Roger. He ain't gonna do what I say. You know what I'm saying? NFL don't care, man. Man.
- [40:36]
E
Yeah, they hopefully don't find man, they.
- [40:37]
A
Got an NFL exec saying that Tour, his benching and Mike McDaniel's firing should have been done already. Dude, what do you think, bro?
- [40:48]
E
Look, we've been talking about McDaniel Depot since way earlier. Way, way, way long time ago. Earlier in the season. Thinking with the way that like leader of men answers to questions, just being able to like. I just don't know sometimes what he was saying in the meetings. I mean, not in the meetings.
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A
Maybe you got something on the owner.
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A
Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first there the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes. He don't want him to get let out I don't know. I'm just, you know, I just. I put stuff out there.
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E
You always going from the devil on this side of your show.
- [43:16]
A
I'm trying to tell you, man. You know, it's both. You know, he'd be like, say it, say it, say it.
- [43:20]
E
I'm like, no, no, say it. I would. Look, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be mad at it, because at the end of the day, too, I just don't like with.
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A
With.
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E
With Tua. I mean, some games he could be amazing. Some games he won't. I just don't really like Tua's like, leadership. The way that he was kind of going about, the way that he was doing things. So I could see how he rubs other just professional people the wrong way, you know what I'm saying? So I could see how his. His play and then the way that he leads a little bit could rub people the wrong way. But the investment they have in him is probably why they trying to keep him out there and not put him on the bench for coach. The way that he's been able to handle some of these situations, the way the team has been playing, I could easily see why they could get rid of him and Tua. So them not doing it, they're doing a good job of sometimes just stepping up. When it gets real bad, they perform very well because they know that, you know what I'm saying? It could be any game.
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A
They.
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E
They do really, really bad, they can easily get fired. The name is always on the hot seat. So I think they're doing a good job of just trying to fight for their jobs. They know it's on the line. They know everybody's talking about them. But then at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if it already happened.
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A
Yeah, I. I don't know, bro. I think, you know, well, let's put it to you like this. They say it's. It's her that Stephen Ross said he was basically giving until at least the end of the year, if not all of next year, to see, you know, to see where it's at. You know what I'm saying? You know, it's. I think the biggest thing for me is like, yo, I'm. I gotta get rid of you. You. You losing football games, period. That's what. That's what. That's the first thing. And then secondly, as you said, everything around you with the players, how they're getting along with each other, what. What my. What my starting quarterback is doing, how he's Representing it, what he's saying, you know, I'm not, I'm not down with it. And on top of that, like, they don't get rid of nobody and then they end up firing the two player personnel guys that have been with the team since, what was it, 99, 94. Like, what did they do? You go fire somebody, you go fire some dudes that, that, that been there for over, you know, 25 years, 20 plus years. Like, what, what did they do to, to get like, did they have some fault in this? Are you trying to figure out like, like what powers do they have that would make it to where they're the ones that you get rid of. And you do nothing about the head coach who can't put together a sentence, man. And your quarterback, that's just dry snitching on everybody, don't you, not you. You got a player is only meeting week one and nobody is going and showing up to it. Like you have no camaraderie, like nothing. And you're giving the. Yeah, we go try this and you do nothing. You ain't trying nothing. All you did was try to make like you was go try something. You ain't try nothing. Like I'm trying to tell you, man, he got, he got something, he gotta have something on Ross, man. I don't know, man. I'm just putting it out there, man. I'm just saying how the quarterback go stay around after that kind of performance and then the responses and, and, and things that he give to why things happen or didn't happen. It's unbelievable, bro.
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E
No, I, I, I'm with you, Debo, but you know how the, the, the owners probably are right now knowing end of the day they got two of their four, $55 million a year. They paid him that dough, so he kind of is not going. Living in the bed that they made and then with the coach, I could see them getting fired. But then at the same time, when they come and beat the bills by 20 something, you know, it's not a bad look. Like, all right, you know what I'm saying? You could. Okay bet players, like we said too, the players are professionals. So even if you don't like your coach, you're going to go out there and ball. Because I honest guy don't lie. I'm trying to get a, I'm trying to get a contract letting everybody know I'm worth whatever I'm worth. No matter if I'm playing for them or I'm playing for the Bills, I'm playing For whoever I can get picked up if I leave this spot, you know what I'm saying? So players gonna play, they gonna perform, but it's kind of like you could get rid of the coach and then he's not answering questions and then you go out there and beat the Bills. So I'm like, damn.
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A
So then you also gotta think about the Bills. They probably played down to it.
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E
Yeah, no, no, for sure. We talked about that too.
- [47:50]
A
Yeah, you and they was in Miami, right? You in Miami?
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E
Yep.
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A
Getting into some good weather, man. They thinking about all this good weather. They just came out of. Out of Buffalo. It's cold in a Mickey Figgy up in there, you know what I'm saying?
- [48:04]
E
Hm. Went fed on them and tool was doing some deep bottles. So.
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A
Yeah, like I don't. Yeah, I don't know. And matter of fact, let's stick with the quarterbacks. What about Kyler Murray over there? You think he's still. He still can be like a one, you know, a number one quarterback starter? What's. What do you think? Man? He can try baseball.
- [48:29]
E
They tripping out they mind. I'd see. Look, if like, if I were the Browns, I would, I would love Kyler Murray. I wouldn't be mad at Kyler Murray. Even though they say he's short, I think he could still, he could still move around. He could still throw the ball.
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A
Browns ain't gonna give Shaw a chance. What you think they gonna give Kylie Murray a chance for? He a foot short.
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E
I understand, but when you asked me a question to is he a starting quarterback? So I'm like, I think he still is a starting quarterback. I don't know if it is in Arizona, he might get switch destinations. I don't know if that they're still getting along or if that that vibe is right. Especially even with new situation. I think could start better for him because remember when he. Even when he wrote his contract, Debo and they was like, yeah, you have to study your iPad for X amount of hours. I'm like, hold the hold.
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A
Well, that was because. That was because he was not a guy that was known for doing the things that needed to be done. Even inside the facility they're like, yo, this dude is the first dude, first dude out and the last dude in quarterback. I respect that.
- [49:33]
E
But look, look, how about this? How about the same thing you said with George too? Maybe you need another place to grow. Maybe a little separate, give you a little time, a different scenery, people that actually believe in you. And now he knows. Nah, I can't be on that, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is my second chance. I got another spot. I got to show them what I'm about and I got to prove to everybody else I'm a winner. You know what I'm saying? I can make it happen. So I don't not believe in Kyler Murray because the talent, his arm strength, his speed, I just don't know about the progression. But I think he could be an NFL quarterback solid.
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A
I think he's an athlete. I'm with you. I think he can be a one somewhere. But it got to be in that perfect setup. I think even him itself, he's a guy that has trouble throwing over tall line.
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E
Yeah, he has an issue.
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A
He has said that. And I think that's a personal issue that he has to. He has to figure out how to be able to get over and be able to adjust and still be successful. Because now they got to roll him out of the pocket. They got to do all of that, especially in a time where, you know, it's. It's timing passes, boom, boom, get it to him, you know, and he can't see that the dude is actually open because somebody's in front of him. He's not used to doing it. I mean, it could be done. All you got to do is, you know, go look at Doug Flutie, did it for 10 plus years or whatever. Drew Brees. But I'm talking about that five, you know what I'm saying? Like, Drew Brees was closer to six. I believe he like five. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's on a good day, you know what I'm saying? I think they giving him more than. Than what he really is. So I believe that too. I believe he. But it, it has to be that right situation. It got to be that, that setup. Because the difficult own personal issue is being able to get the ball out and seeing where it needs to go on time. Because of his, you know, because of his height.
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E
You make a good. You make a really good point. And especially when now like, even with looking at the always going back to around Dylan Gabriel, not the tallest guy, can't really see over the line. And even with Kyler Murray, like you said, it's not, it's not science if you got six, five linemen standing in front of you, you can't see. You know what I'm saying? So sometimes you might have to slide to the side angles and throws. So tall. Being able to be a taller quarterback and him saying that too. Like, man, some throws I can't see. I'm like, damn. Oh, I don't know. If you put. That means you may. Your anticipation gotta be up a little bit. Like you might have blindly knowing where the routes are coming, but if you can't see, you can't see.
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A
I can't. Yeah, you right. I can't let that ball go not knowing exactly where it's going or if that person is completely open because I can't see the full view of where I'm throwing it to too. Yeah, Doug Fluty, he, he, he just. I don't know how he did it, dude. I'm. Maybe they were shorter back then. I don't know. I think Doug had a lot of, a lot of interception too though.
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E
Hey, look, I, I say, bud, did you get. Fine. My g. He said not yet. Last. Hey, I hope he don't get fired.
- [52:42]
A
Listen, I'm, I'm hoping he don't get fired either, but he looking at that too and they keep putting it up and he like, yo, man, just put that down.
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E
Like, just chill.
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That's why the, the, the, the 42 for the Steelers. What's his name, where he did that scoop, dump and everything on, on the, on the, on Instagram NFL now. NFL, NFL this, NFL that. Your Instagrams are like, yo, this is fully legal. So Roger, when you. Okay, if you find him, you might want to talk to him. Posting all your social media. Hey, take a screenshot of it right now before they take it down. I know them dirt balls.
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Here you go.
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Here.
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Hopefully he'll go five Pierre.
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That's what they did to me. They sold the picture and all that. As soon as I started saying y' all finding me and you selling the picture, they took the picture down and canceled doing all that.
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The master joint, right?
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You dirt balls exploded. Yeah, you dirt balls. Hey man, they said that boy Grant go sign him a one day contract so he could retire with the Patriots, bro.
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Yes, deservingly so everything.
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Did you sign your one day contract to retire with Browns?
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Yeah, I did.
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Dude. You retired? Yes. Like you, you, you were Brown. Everybody know you as a Brown, you know what I'm saying?
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Hey man, I had to go back though, man, and make it official like a Russell and I respect. I think wrong. That's, that's a good thing, bro. Go back there. Patriots was his spot. He won crazy ships there.
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That's crazy. He won, he won crazy chips there. Patriots was where his thing was. He'll go in the hall as a Patriot but when you ask Gronk who he rooting for when the Patriots play Tampa Bay.
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Oh, his. See, look, look, look, look. It's not even close to how much Grant only spent. How many years did Gronk spend in Tampa Depot?
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About four years.
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How many years he spend in New England?
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About eight, nine, ten.
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E
Come on, man. That's more than what you talking about.
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Like, how many years did you spend The Pittsburgh, Joe?
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5.
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How many years you spend in Cleveland, Joe?
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7. That's Elijah. That's exactly the perfect truth, Debo. And you're crazy if you don't understand. I did 12 years in the NFL, seven for Cleveland.
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So you're going in as a stellar in the hall of Fame. No.
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D
Huh?
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C
Huh?
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What did you say? I couldn't hear no. How can you just say no?
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Because, bro, my Steelers, my still, I went to. I went to two Pro Bowls when I was with the Browns. I only went to 1 when I was a Steeler. I had 19 picks when I was with the Browns. I only had nine or nine when I was with the Steelers, so my career was better there, too. That's why. You know what I'm saying?
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Okay, but. So you can't. But you can't pick who you want to win. But you will go in your words. Listen. No, listen, listen, listen, listen. Your words say one thing, but when people's words don't allow. Don't align with their actions, it's called bullshit.
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E
What part of my words don't align with.
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You're going in as a Brown, but yet you want to say you have no loyalty to either one. You want to see both do. Well, that's.
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I do.
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Your actions show me you're a Brown. You know what, Joe? I ain't gonna lie to you. I don't. I don't want to say this, but sometimes I just don't feel the fury when we lose that I feel from you when the Browns lose. Maybe it's just because I'm so happy that the Browns lost. I don't know.
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E
That's what. That's what it is. That's exactly what it is. You're happy when I'm sad and when you're mad, I'm also with you. But, like, you just don't feel that at all.
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You ain't on my level of it, Joe. How you not on my level of it? But you let me tell you.
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Let me tell you why. Cause I'm a what? You know what I do. I don't get too up and too down. I'm more even killed than you. You get real mad and real glad you guys stay more even killed, Debo. You know what I'm saying? Like they gonna be straight. That's why I don't have that mad.
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As mad come with that again. They gonna be straight. I won't hear that.
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You hate. That's what pissed you off.
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It's just gonna happen. They're gonna be straight hell out of it. What the hell you mean they just gonna be straight, cuz?
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Man.
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Man. Well, who your defensive player of the week then?
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My defensive player of the week. What's my man name? Number nine for the New York Jets. He had about a four piece on the brown. This four piece sack McDonald, I think.
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He went on ahead and tied a franchise record on you boys single sacks in a game as a Jet.
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He was. He was hooping and my man is like.
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And guess what.
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45, they was one.
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I don't know how you get your player of the week to somebody to lose, but go ahead. I understand. I did too. So I'm with you.
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E
That's the same way they gave the MVP to the losing team in the NBA finals one time. I forgot what his name was. Lost the ship, won the mvp.
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You bruh. Bruh, I'm definitely gonna have to look that up. That sound crazy. I'm gonna go with you. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go with you there on. On the defensive player. Yes, I'm with you there on that one. You know what I'm saying, man? Man did. Man did what he had to do, man. You know what I'm saying? He did.
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E
And he won the game.
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Yes, he won. You play to win. To win the game, understand? Hey, matter of fact, man. Hey, did you see that thing that was sitting, man? The. The dude from Troy. Troy up there, man, he went on here and robbed the gas station, bro. Up there in Michigan, dude.
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E
See, he got a chair.
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A
Hey, man, look. Hold up.
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E
God. To be more careful.
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Hey, bro, listen, I'm gonna tell you the truth. What do you think happened?
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I'm let you cut your camera off.
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I'm gonna let you go.
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You gonna let me go?
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You tell me, what do you think happens here? Why do you think this whole situation happened, man? Pulled 8K47, robbed the stove and took off. What do you think happened, Joe? What led him to do something so darn?
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Do you know? I don't know. The AK47 robbing at the. I thought he robbed the. I thought he robbed the barber shop. No, I will get. He Robbed the gas station?
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah, I don't know, Debo.
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Just give me what you think, Joe. Just give me something. Come on, Joe. You gotta have an imagination. You gotta have something. What would you. What. Would you comment on this, Joe?
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What? Would you rob a gas station with a. Before the AK47. He had a bad day. He had a really bad day, Debo.
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A
Yeah.
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What do you think? So because my man's joint is pushed back. So ridiculous.
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A
As you look at that. Where is it? Right here. Or is it over here? As you look at that? Over here. Okay. Because it's. It's opposite mirror. Yeah.
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E
On the screen as you look at that right there.
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I'm tell y' all what happened. That is a fresh cut, okay? Listen, you can tell by all the lines on it, that is a fresh cut. Now, this is a. This is. This is. This is a booking picture, right? He did not go. This is mug shot. He did not go and get a fresh cut. Before they came to arrest him, they.
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E
Pushed that man, bro. I've never seen anybody get. They.
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A
Listen, Joe pushed back. I'm trying to tell you what happened, Joe. Go ahead. So with that being the case, this is what I think happened, okay? My went in there to the barbershop.
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E
Yeah.
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Got fresh and clean. You know, after you get your hair cut, you feeling a certain way about yourself. You're feeling real good. The man goes into the gas station. He got his walk, his talk. He goes to do something, maybe get something. Do something. Cashier looks over.
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E
Yes.
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And goes, dude. And then the cashier said, I'm gonna see you around like this. My dude said, oh, no, you won't. He went to the car and he got the AK47. He ain't even want to rob the place. He just wanted some respect, okay? He thought he had it going. He done found out that he didn't. He went in there and just to add a little insult, he wanted to just scare him. He said, hey, give me the money, too. Okay? And then he ran up out of there. Okay, that was strictly on the haircut. That was it, bro.
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E
Did he make. But did this one. I'm saying, Debo, how do. How did he make it out of the barbershop? Did he not look in the bed?
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A
You talking about? He asked for that. He thought it was it. They gassing him up in the barbershop. Talking about, that's clean, bro. Look at Stephen a man. He said, that's clean, too. Stephen ain't my guy. Let me.
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E
Let me tell you this. In no world. All that light skin spots on his head that's also was covered with hair before they pushed this man back so far. There's no way. The front middle part is that.
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A
I'm trying to tell you he's not leaving the barbershop. If they pushed him back that bad and he got the AK in the car. Because everybody in there gotta get laid down, okay?
- [63:33]
E
Everybody in the barbershop. They need to go check the barbershop. Everybody must already.
- [63:36]
A
Whatever barbershop this man go to, don't y' all show up. There, there. Listen, he asked for this, Joe. He. That. This was not no accident, dude, he asked for this, man. Okay? I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying. Listen, Joe, look, I got a ball head, Joe, okay? You know why I got a ball head? Because my top is glass and I got a sunroof all the way in the back, okay? Yeah, my sunroof right here in the back. If I did that, I deserve everything I got coming, Debo.
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E
But that's why he need to just let it go. He need to go ball.
- [64:14]
A
Trying to tell y' all officers the law man done took enough of a beating. Y' all go ahead and let him on out, man. He got. He got. He got his head. Hey, man, don't be doing all that because you got a hairline.
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E
Make sure my top ain't falled off, Debo. Got it.
- [64:33]
A
Put your hood back on, man. You want to wear a hood and all that. Put your hood back on. On, man.
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E
Man, hold on, man. Make sure my top, man. And he's had my. It made me scared about making sure my top.
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A
Yeah, that's what happened, bro.
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E
Man, I feel sorry.
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A
Yeah, for sure, for sure. Let. Hey, let him on now, man. I took enough of a beat. All right, Come on. Listen here, man. We really appreciate y' all being here with us, man. We go be back here again on Friday as we do that.
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E
Good. Yes, sir.
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A
Thursday ball, Joe.
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E
Yes, sir. Hey, guys, man, make sure y' all like, subscribe. Debo and Joe, we appreciate you guys watching. Let's get it. I will see you on Friday.
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A
And we out.
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