Deebo & Joe - MNF REACTION: Steelers DOMINATE Dolphins! Can Myles Garrett still break sack record?

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Debo & Joe – MNF REACTION: Steelers DOMINATE Dolphins! Can Myles Garrett still break sack record?

Episode Date: December 16, 2025
Host: James "Debo" Harrison
Co-host: Joe Hayden

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Overview

This episode features James "Debo" Harrison and Joe Hayden breaking down the Pittsburgh Steelers' dominant Monday Night Football victory over the Miami Dolphins. The hosts deliver an in-depth, play-by-play analysis of both teams' performances, specifically focusing on defensive nuances, execution in key moments, and philosophical takes on coaching and player mentality. The latter part discusses Myles Garrett's shot at the single-season sack record and broader NFL storylines, including the future of Joe Burrow and the Bengals. The conversation is energetic, coaching-focused, and filled with locker-room banter and former player insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

First Half: Defensive Nuances and Early Game Flow

• Steelers' Defensive Execution (02:26–08:15)

  • Miami comes out aggressively after winning the toss.
  • Early critique of defenders not maintaining outside contain:

    "He got to keep that shoulder free... that outside contained." (James, 04:12)

  • Praise for Joey Porter Jr. ("Peasy") for tight coverage and a crucial PBU on third down (05:34).
  • Early Miami play-action success tied to linebacker discipline, leaving "meat on the bone."

• Miami's Initial Physicality (06:20–06:57)

  • Both hosts credit the Dolphins' tackling and effort in the first half.

• Key Play: Tua Interception (09:26–10:52)

  • Tua throws a "lollipop" interception to Asante; Joe details the correct technique:

    "High to low. You have no work in front of you, so you keep going deep, get underneath that seven route..." (Joe, 10:12)

  • Strong critique of Tua’s decision-making:

    "Horrible throw by Tua...like, throw it out of bounds...don't throw the...You got a good drive going." (Joe, 10:36–10:52)

• Steelers’ Opening Drives (11:10–13:45)

  • A series of tough, physical running plays. The Dolphins continue strong tackling, keeping Pittsburgh in check and knocking them out of field goal range.
  • "Good defensive plays by them. We got to make them miss for the first down, but they made stops." (Joe, 06:20)

• Technical Coaching Breakdowns

  • Multiple segments focus on linebacker positioning, DB leverage, and run fits:

    “Everybody do your job first, then after that help your partner.” (James, 08:15)

  • Both point out recurring issues—players not keeping proper leverage, allowing bigger gains than necessary.

Second Quarter: Adjustments & Shift in Momentum

• Steelers’ Offense Finds Rhythm (19:05–21:15)

  • Short passing game sparks the offense; physical play by WRs and TEs draws praise.
  • Notable Moment:

    “Hey, man, he ran over D lineman, dude...getting physical out there.” (James, 19:05–19:12)

• Touchdown Drive (21:14)

  • 12 plays, 60 yards capped by a Connor touchdown:

    "That's how we answer." (Joe, 21:23)

• Halftime Mindset (21:49)

  • Hosts invoke Pittsburgh’s cold, physical football identity, predicting the Dolphins were not ready for the elements.

    "It's December, y'all. Physical football." (James, 21:52)

Second Half: Steelers’ Domination

• Ground Game Takes Over (22:12–26:05)

  • Pittsburgh goes run-heavy, racking up major yards.
  • Notable Quote:

    “Like they weren't even there...Y’all ain’t used to this. No, you ain't used to this. You been in Miami too long." (James, 22:32–22:53)

  • Dolphins visibly wear down; repeated reference to the cold impacting their play.

• Efficient, Balanced Drives (25:38–28:15)

  • Steelers use play-action for a wide-open 19-yard touchdown.
  • Five runs, one pass—physical, no-nonsense football:

    "That drive was beautiful." (Joe, 25:53)

• Defensive Highlight (26:46)

  • Jalen Ramsey covers massive ground for a sack:

    "Hey, hey, that boy came all the way from the depths for that sack." (James, 26:46)

• DK Metcalf Bully Moment (28:15)

  • Hosts react to Metcalf's stiff-arm and disrespectful run after catch:

    "That man turned into his inner Debo and started tossing people and stiff arming people." (Joe, 28:18)

• Score Update and Vibe

  • 21–3, then 28–3 after another dominant running TD (29:08, 32:03).
  • Miami’s offense is stifled; only late, “garbage time” drives yield points.

Final Quarter Concerns & Closing Commentary

• Letting Off the Gas in the 4th (32:15–34:40)

  • Both hosts critique the Steelers’ late lack of urgency and the defense giving up big chunks:

    “That's not what you want to do...fourth quarter, I believe tua, or not even tua, the offense...had 192 yards in the fourth quarter.” (James, 35:52)

  • Issue: not sustaining energy, allowing late meaningless scores that “put bad tape out there.”

• Big Picture: What Needs Fixing (36:54–41:43)

  • Offense: Poor third-down efficiency (4 of 13), must grind out the clock late.
  • Defense: Coaching points around run fits, late-game discipline, assignment mistakes ("peekaboo" syndrome).
  • Improvement and optimism if the team sustains this progress:

    "If this can happen and keep happening week in and week out, you could change my [mind] on what we need to do with time." (James, 37:38)

• Praise for Simplicity and Growth

  • For the first time, Debo notes the defense looked predictable and disciplined:

    "This was the first time where I could sit down and look at the defense and know exactly what I was looking at..." (James, 41:43)

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Around the NFL: Myles Garrett Sack Record & Burrow Debates

Myles Garrett Sack Record (45:17–50:43)

• Joe and James debate when Garrett will set the sack record:

  "Oh, with that being said, he's definitely gonna break the record. He's going to break the record." (Joe, 46:42)

• James playfully insists it won’t be against the Steelers:

  "I know when he see them Steelers, that ain't gonna be the game, baby." (James, 49:54)

Joe Burrow & Bengals Future (50:43–56:01)

• Discussion on whether the Bengals should play Burrow for the rest of the year, touching on contract, injury, and front office frugality.

  "If he's healthy, I want us to go into the offseason feeling good, especially if you're healthy." (Joe, 51:31)

• Critique of Bengals ownership/operations:

  "The Bengals are cheap. The Bengals didn't even clear off the stands..." (Joe, 52:16)

• Philosophical debate about protecting franchise QBs vs. playing out the season.

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Listener Q&A and Live Banter

Memorable Moments

• On DK Metcalf throwing Minka Fitzpatrick "out the club" (64:40):

  "That's somebody's child...I know how pissed Minka was, and that's my good man. I wish he would have made anybody else." (Joe, 65:02)

• Steelers’ Fan Hype & Banter
  • “We incline. We excelling. We going up.” (James, 64:27)
• On Steelers’ Running Back Split (Warren & Gainwell) (66:10)

  "Both of them need to be getting the ball...I would do an even rotation, give it to the hot hand." (James, 67:56) "Both of them need to be getting the ball because Warren is not—he's not playing either. He's running that thing coming down full speed, full tilt." (Joe, 67:16)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On linebacker fits and defense:

  "Everybody do your job first, and then after that, help your partner." - James, 08:15

• On Tua's costly interception:

  "Horrible throw by Tua...Don't throw the—You got a good drive going." - Joe, 10:52

• On the Steelers’ physical advantage:

  "Y' all ain't used to this. You've been in Miami too long." - James, 22:53

• On late-game lapses:

  "We need to be able to close it up. Handle success and still come out with the same energy and intensity when the game was tight." - James, 35:55

• On Myles Garrett's pending sack record:

  "He's definitely gonna break the record. When, if not when, he gonna break the record, Joe?" - Joe, 46:42

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Steelers Opening Defensive Series & Analysis – 02:26–08:15
• Tua Interception & Breakdown – 09:26–10:52
• Steelers' Early Offensive Struggles – 11:10–13:45
• Pittsburgh’s Dominant Ground Game (Second Half) – 22:12–26:05
• DK Metcalf Bully Play Analysis – 28:18–28:53
• Discussion: Myles Garrett's Sack Record – 45:17–50:43
• Bengals, Burrow, and Franchise Philosophy – 50:43–56:01
• Fan Q&A and Banter – 60:39–68:28

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Tone & Style

• Language: Direct, energetic, football-savvy
• Banter: Playful, at times irreverent, with coaching-level analysis and ex-player credibility
• Atmosphere: Locker room meets film room, with audience engagement and a heavy dose of Steelers pride.

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Summary Takeaways

• Steelers’ Defensive Discipline was the biggest difference in the game, though both hosts see room for improvement, especially as the game wears on.
• Miami’s defense started physical but wore down against Pittsburgh’s ground attack and the cold.
• Offensive Consistency Needs Work: Despite big stretches of success, there’s a need for better execution late and more efficiency on third downs.
• Playoff Outlook is optimistic provided the Steelers can replicate this blueprint week-to-week.
• Myles Garrett will likely break the sack record, but maybe not against the Steelers if James Harrison has his way.
• Bengals and Joe Burrow face existential questions about roster building, injuries, and how to finish a lost season.

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For fans or football connoisseurs, this episode is a treasure trove of real-time breakdowns, technical insight, and gamer mentality with lots of character—and Steelers pride.

Transcript

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[Joe Hayden]

Debo, I'm doing amazing. I'm doing great. That was what we expected. That was what we were looking for.

[James Debo Harrison]

Belt to tushy, no question. Belt to tushy. That's that. That's what we go call it, man. Let's go ahead and jump into this. Listen, Miami win the toss and they just get real disrespectful. They say they want the ball tripping, tripping, tripping. We kick the ball off to him. Of course, special teams do what they Supposed to do. They started to 27. Now the first play, Ah Tua hits his heel for, you know, for 20. That right there, that's Heisman.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

He got, he, he got it. He got to take that man crossing. He becomes the new number two. He got backer. It's looking like we're playing quarters, so he has to go with him. I understand what he's thinking. He's thinking run, but you still have to take care of your responsibility, which is going to be that guy coming back. They end up getting 20 yards on that. I'm not tripping because I know he just in it, in it.

[Joe Hayden]

Ready?

[James Debo Harrison]

Ready? He just, he, he, he fidgety. Okay, it's cool. Let that play go. We get on to the next play and it's the same thing this time, except high Smith stays where he's supposed to and he actually bangs. He fits up on number two. He runs into the running back. The only thing I would like to see him do better on this one is again, stay on that outside because even though we dropped him for a loss, that's some more meat on the bone. Yeah, we could have, we could have had him back there deeper because he was able to get on the outside. You got all that pursuit coming on the inside. We'd have been able to stop him for more than just the, you know, the one yard loss.

[Joe Hayden]

For sure. For sure.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah. So second, what was the second and 11? They ended up getting four again right here. You know, Herbic makes a play from his knees.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Effort. Let's get it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Effort. Same thing, but keep the outside.

[Joe Hayden]

He got that outside.

[James Debo Harrison]

He got that tight split. He got a big body. Tight end that's sitting right here. They, they roll down that, that outside guy. So now your tight end is sitting at your 1. Soon as you see him roll out, you got to turn into that tight end, get on his outside. That tight end is going to release off of you. Now you fly down to that fullback, squeeze that hole to where you still keep that outside contained. And now you squeeze that alley for Queen to be able to come down there. And he could have made that, you know, for an easy, you know, maybe a two yard game, possibly, you know, a loss because he will squeeze that alley. Now he could shoot that gap before the tight ending get to him. Again, more meat on the bone.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. We speaking in nuances. You want them to make sure, like, good play, you got it done, but there's just execution that you could do a little bit better, you know what I'm saying? So good job. But still, like you said, a little more meat on the bone could get it done. Not pissed, but, you know, just coaching. You know what I'm saying? Just coaching points.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, easily, easily. I think we ended up getting to. What was it, third or secondary?

[Joe Hayden]

37Th. And my young man, good man, Joey Porter Jr. Peezy. You know what I'm saying? PBU no good defense.

[James Debo Harrison]

We get him into what we. We want them into. We want a passing situation.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

We want them into doing. We want them doing something that they are unreliable at doing, and that is their passing game with their quarterback.

[Joe Hayden]

Correct.

[James Debo Harrison]

We get the pressure to them. They get the ball into the dirt. Peasy on that thing. Tight. They have to punt the ball. The ball. We do a smart play. We don't touch it. We get a touchback. Steelers come out. We starting on the 20, I believe the first down, we dumped it to Smith. It was only two yards. It was no game for gain. Well, on the next. On the next one. And then on the third down, we ended up picking up seven of the eight that we needed.

[Joe Hayden]

Them boys right there. I ain't gonna lie. At the beginning of the game, they were. It was open field tackles. There was defensive backs making those tackles. Gainwell on the. On the no gain. It was one on one versus db. That dude Douglas made that tackle. That was a great play. When they came and crashed down, it was outside in. I got the outside leg linebacker comes in inside. Fum you not falling forward. So, like, they came out there and was hitting and tackling at the beginning of the game. So I'm like, okay. Like, that was good defensive plays by them. We got it. Like, we got what we like him. I liked him to be able to make a miss and be able to get that first down. But they made stops and were tackling for real. So I was like, okay, good job by the Dolphins. You know what I'm saying? I see y' all came to play.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, yeah, they definitely. They definitely came to play probably for most of the first half, you know, they were. They were making real good plays, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know, Miami get out there in. First down was. Ho. He gets sick again. I think it was the inside linebacker. 50. Like, we. We got to stay with that outside. You know, he got to keep that shoulder free. We doing the same thing where we peekabooing. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

He don't peekaboo and he stay out there. He can keep going over. And he gives Queen the opportunity to come over the top of that they also, you know, Queen kind of slow played it because he see the tight end flow back. That ain't you. That's going to Highsmith. Let it go. Keep. Keep going where you see that fullback going? Because it's gonna be an extra gap. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Got you.

[James Debo Harrison]

They end up getting six again. More meat on the bone. We could. We could. We could have stopped them for. For less than six, you know?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Second down.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know, he goes 10 on this one. We're running into the same situation. We got Herbert. He goes inside.

[Joe Hayden]

You got to keep your outside. That's not you.

[James Debo Harrison]

But he gets back. But he gets so thick on a fullback, which would have been his new guy, that he would have been to. That they're able to get outside of.

[Joe Hayden]

But I'm with that. This still all that. Keep it outside on free right.

[James Debo Harrison]

He play it a little different. And he works that outside of that tight end. Throw him in and come up. He can. He can play it from outside in. Squeeze that down. Same thing again. Keeps the play inside. They don't get 10 yards again. Everybody do your job first, and then after that, help your partner. That. I think that would have been no more than, you know, a couple yards, but for sure. I ain't gonna lie to you. Listen, on that tackle, I thought Ramsay was about to get thrown out the game. I knew he was about to dump that man on his head, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

I, I, I, I. I just wanted. I just. I'm glad. He just wanted to show him I could do it. I could do, man. You know what I'm saying? And then just put him down. Looking at him like I was rocking. With the way Ramsey was out there playing, I'm glad he didn't dump him on his head. Cause I would have been 15 for no reason. He just was like this. You're small, you know what I'm saying? I can hold you up.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna let you know. You like you lightly. First down to a. His waddle again.

[Joe Hayden]

That's why, though, Deebo. This is happening because they was getting 6 yards, then he was able to get 10 yards. You're expecting to run off the play. Action now. Linebackers coming up. That bang gonna be right behind you. You know what I'm saying?

[James Debo Harrison]

So as soon as he see Harrison, as soon as he see that fake, he got to dig out of there and look who's coming. I believe if he did that, he was almost there anyway. Without doing it, he get. He. He does it he can actually. I mean, worst case, he'll deflect it for sure. He could have had exception, you know what I'm saying? You know, he has to turn and get to that, to that coverage responsibility. But again, we got him in there for the run game, so he's, you know, he's thinking more run heavy, but you still. Still gotta, you know, be able to do your job. Ramsey comes up, makes the play. We stopping right there, you know, the next play. What happened? Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Got to be more careful there to it through a lollipop out there to Asante. My good man.

[James Debo Harrison]

What's your. What's your corner do? What's your corner? What he do?

[Joe Hayden]

High to low. High, too low. You have no work in front of you, so you keep going deep. You get underneath that seven route, you got Jalen on the top, so if he goes fade or he goes post, you got your safety. But that seven, that's your play. And he got right underneath of it and like, oh, my goodness, like, it didn't even make it hard on him. High point the ball, catch it, waddle. Trying to basically turn it to the DB and break it up. Just a great job of holding the ball and going down with it. So good job by Santi. Great job by defense. Horrible throw by Tua. I don't know why you throw that ball like it's not open, you know what I'm saying? Like, throw it out of bounds, check down. Something get missing, go down, but, like, don't throw the right. You got a good drive going.

[James Debo Harrison]

This first intent being called, you know, grounding because it would have looked like he was trying to get it to him, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Throw it out of bounds. High, far over there.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah. Still, let's get out there. I think it was warm for six and then three. Third down, they. They ended up doing a tush push. They said, you know what? We ain't get it. Hell, we go.

[Joe Hayden]

They double touch push.

[James Debo Harrison]

They double touch. I ain't gonna lie to you. I might have punted that one because it was still tight right there.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah. I rock with it.

[James Debo Harrison]

I rock with.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad we got it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Just the momentum for the momentum, for the momentum. Like, I was like. Because I'm looking like, guys, we gotta get a yard and we didn't get the first touch push. I'm like, come on. You know what I'm saying? Our touch pushes are real kind of trying.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's what made me nervous. Where I would have been like, I Don't think I'm punk. This.

[Joe Hayden]

It is a little hesy, but. Yeah, go ahead. Little Connor wing.

[James Debo Harrison]

First down, we get no gain again because Miami is tackling. They are coming up. Yes. Like one on ones. Like it's. Yeah, they. I ain't gonna lie. They. The first half. They. They, they. They came to play, but, you know, second to 10, we hit somebody over the middle. That man DK for 20 over the middle.

[Joe Hayden]

That was nice ball, bro. That's just the. That the. The dig ball. You know what I'm saying? That was one of the A rod. He didn't throw the ball too far past the line of scrimmage. Was very consistent. But that one on the money dig.

[James Debo Harrison]

Let's get it again next play. Warren for six, and then right after that, for one, we running the ball, making them come up and tackle at some point, which it ended up happening. They're going to get tired of coming up here and getting hit and having to make these tackles with no.

[Joe Hayden]

For sure.

[James Debo Harrison]

It's cold outside. Yes. Yes. Third down. It's an incompletion. Rogers throws it low. I mean, he only had four. I mean, you gotta, you know, you gotta at least have an incompletion here and there. But we get to fourth down, we get a. We get a first down after they. They quick snap it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

He was.

[Joe Hayden]

He was working a good job with the hard count the whole way, so he was building this up. So they was expecting him probably to hard count them to try to get him to jump, but nah, we gonna fast count you. You're not even ready for the play. So. I love that they came up there using that the whole time, like baiting and baiting and baiting them. No, no, we going quick, so.

[James Debo Harrison]

Well, I think what. He picked up nine right there. That got us first. Yeah, we lost one on the next first down, I think. Second, second. Got five on two. I ain't know. I ain't know if you was gonna make it back into the game out.

[Joe Hayden]

Of that one, but that's what I'm trying to tell you. Them dudes were flying to the Rock, Douglas, all them little DBs. The. The linebackers. I wasn't mad at him. So it was. It wasn't that the Steelers couldn't really get nothing going. It was that these dudes were making plays, you know what I'm saying? Like they had to. You ain't gonna make all of them, but you gonna make. You know what I'm saying? You gonna make some of them.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, I ain't gonna lie. They was making all of them in that first half.

[Joe Hayden]

At the beginning. At the beginning, I'm like, right, yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Third down, 11, we end up getting.

[Joe Hayden]

Sacked, you know, Knocked us out of field goal range.

[James Debo Harrison]

Knocks us out of field goal range. We gotta. You know, we gotta punt the Rock, give it back to Miami. First down, they only get two. Everybody did they supposed to do, you know. Second down again to a hit Waller. What was it for? 8. The DB has to force him to go back inside. Letting out.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't. There's nothing. There's nothing out there. You got pursuit coming.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, Again, all fixable. Like, I'm not tripping. Like, everything is fixable.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. None of these are a talent issue. All of these are something that basically stay outside, man. You know what I'm saying? You can't. You got to force the ball.

[James Debo Harrison]

Next play, HN 5 yards. Again, we playing peekaboo. He gonna make you wrong. Stay outside. I think the next play, he only picks up three.

[Joe Hayden]

Great pursuit by Queen grabbing by the ear hole.

[James Debo Harrison]

And then third down. That was third down.

[Joe Hayden]

That was third.

[James Debo Harrison]

Tua went to scramble, and Queen made a great stop on him right there. That put him to the. To the fourth down. I was thinking they might have tried to fake, but they ended up getting that delay.

[Joe Hayden]

We had our defense out there.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, yes. That's why they did.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm trying to get. Everybody was sitting there like this. I wish.

[James Debo Harrison]

Right.

[Joe Hayden]

I wish you would.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what you was saying. Like, what do you, like, have your defense out there? You know what I'm saying? Make them punt the ball. Make sure you get the Rock.

[James Debo Harrison]

Anything five and under, we punt. Safe.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man. The leg game made, especially if.

[James Debo Harrison]

Well, not. Not five and under. You in that. That three and shorter, like, yo, it's punt. Safe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, for sure. We need to make sure that you end up punting the ball. We get possession of the ball. I don't give a damn about us returning how far we get. We need to make sure you punt the ball still.

[James Debo Harrison]

Let's get the Rock back. The first play, Warren goes for 24, but we get a whole holding. Brings it back.

[Joe Hayden]

That's gonna kill drives, brother.

[James Debo Harrison]

It kills the drive. We ended up getting, you know, seven on the next play and then 10 on the play after that. Them DBs was fighting for their life.

[Joe Hayden]

Trying to tackle Washington, man, he was this. He still didn't. Still hasn't gone down, and we ended.

[James Debo Harrison]

Up getting to a manageable third and three. But we get sacked.

[Joe Hayden]

Sack.

[James Debo Harrison]

We gotta punt the rock back to them. I think Miami gets the ball. Your boy HN. I think it was like 4 on the first down. Incompletion on second down. It was good coverage.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, this down right here, this is the one that killed me. This is a simple ones too. Just, you know, he extended the play. You gotta stay like that, like by this time. That's your man. Stay on them. Like stay, stay, stay on him. We got, we're latching by now, you know what I'm saying? He went from the backfield all the way from the right side of the field all the way across to the left side of the field. So like just on that one we got it. By the time it looks.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm with you. Same thing. It looks like we're in quarters. So basically what it comes down to is 26 when he comes up. He don't need to come up. You see Herbic on the other side? His guy goes in. As this guy goes in, Herbic is looking to see what's coming back. Something got to come back. So he stops as it comes back. If 26 is seeing that and he's playing at the depth, he can pick that up. He's not playing at the depth. He goes to pick it up. They end up picking up what, 24 on that play? Yes. You know, again, it's fixable. No, for sure it's fixable. It's not like we're trying to figure out what, you know, what the hell is going on.

[Joe Hayden]

He's created a lot of time. It was a scramble play. Like it wasn't just, you know, I'm saying nothing normal. So we can, we can fix that.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah. The defense holds. Queen makes a great play.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, shoot the gap. Third and one. That's what I'm talking about.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's what I mean. Yes, dude. Give him those opportunities. Like I said, our backers stay on that outside. You give him those opportunities to get squeezed down in there before that, that dude could get. He's going to make that play. I ain't gonna lie to you. I was surprised they went for a 54 yard field goal.

[Joe Hayden]

Me too.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't think they understand what, you know, acrisure is like, but the elements.

[Joe Hayden]

He didn't give a dag on about acrosure, none of that. We didn't care what the weather was, what the field temperature was. He cashed that.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, he smoked that thing, bro. What? He smoked that thing, bro. I just knew it was going to Be a miss. I'm like, oh, that's.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, that's.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, that's going in.

[Joe Hayden]

That's cash.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, that's. All right.

[Joe Hayden]

All right, now.

[James Debo Harrison]

All right now.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, Good kick.

[James Debo Harrison]

They kick the ball off, and they make a little bit of a mistake. They get a landing zone. Penalty.

[Joe Hayden]

Free kick, landing.

[James Debo Harrison]

But offense, you know, they start to. They start to come alive a little bit.

[Joe Hayden]

Deebo, starting at the 40 yard line is a completely different game now. You know what I'm saying? I think with the. Cause now with the field goal kickers being able to kick further 40 yards, man, you get first down, you right. You at. You at half field.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. So tell him. We used to start at the Twinkie. At the.

[Joe Hayden]

At the twinkie.

[James Debo Harrison]

At the 20.

[Joe Hayden]

At the 20.

[James Debo Harrison]

They done made it so easy now. They said we need more points.

[Joe Hayden]

That's three first downs like real live. You got to start. You got to have a real drive going. You know what I'm saying? Get a real explosive play. You're not getting any points. You're punting.

[James Debo Harrison]

First play, Rogers throws a short one. Hey, man, he ran over D lineman, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, he did.

[James Debo Harrison]

That was the alignment. That wasn't no lineberg, bro. That was.

[Joe Hayden]

He had things to prove, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

He's getting physical out there, man.

[Joe Hayden]

He had things to prove. We got trade. He got. He got. He felt.

[James Debo Harrison]

Y' all got rid of me.

[Joe Hayden]

Y' all got rid of me. I'm gonna show you something. And he was up on the sideline doing it the whole time.

[James Debo Harrison]

Second and seven, Rogers to Washington. Hey, they fighting for their life again. Hey, every time they get that man the ball, them boys like, ooh.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, business decision.

[James Debo Harrison]

Business decision. Hey, hey, y' all see you then. Got the ball. Come on now.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man. Why y' all all looking around? Crazy. Y' all see you got the ball.

[James Debo Harrison]

Come on now.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't the only one.

[James Debo Harrison]

Right after that, he get 10. And then Gangwell squeezes out 4 yards on that dude. That should have been a tackle for a loss.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, it should have.

[James Debo Harrison]

Followed by a hot screen that. He took five. We get the fourth and one. That. That boy Connor get up in there. He say, hey, let's go again. Rogers the game. Well, 10. And then they had a nerd face mask. Oh, my.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you see close, boy.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, he yanked that. He was tackling anybody.

[Joe Hayden]

I thought, gain will need that joint. Look crazy. Did you see it?

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, yes. Yeah. Cause he was holding onto that face mask.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. My wife was like, zo, what happened I'm like, baby girl, I'm just so glad Gainwell is out there just now because he like, he grabbed the face mask. Then he was like bent down, bent up. And then I was Grabbed that knee.

[James Debo Harrison]

And then he was like. I think it was one of those, like, oh, man, my knee went wrong. And he was like, oh, I'm good.

[Joe Hayden]

My man was like, I did a.

[James Debo Harrison]

Little something, but young.

[Joe Hayden]

That's that young. That's that young knee. That man like, come praise the Lord. I'm so happy he okay, right?

[James Debo Harrison]

If I. I did something like that, man. Y' all gone ahead. I'm tearing everything from my knee down. ACL, PC brother, brother, fibula, tibula, everything. Fraction 10 places, bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, take me up to the I'm upper room. The whole thing blown.

[James Debo Harrison]

Third down. Connor gets a nice one. His first touchdown. Dude.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

First Tudy 7 to 3. We just went on a 12 play. 60 yard touchdown dress.

[Joe Hayden]

That's how we answer. That's how we answer.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey. Yes. Yeah. That wouldn't be. That wouldn't. That wouldn't be the only answer, though.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no. That's how we start. That's how we start.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's how we ended. That's how we ended the first half. You know what I'm saying? We getting the ball back for the second half. Yes, sir. Hey, we get the ball back. Hold up. Oh, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, man, you know what we did, Debo.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey. We said, hey. This is Pittsburgh. It's December, y'. All. Physical football.

[Joe Hayden]

Y' all went in there, y' all went in there, y' all went in there. Halftime and got warm. It's cold out here, y'.

[James Debo Harrison]

All.

[Joe Hayden]

I bet y' all didn't want to come back out. It's time to run the rock down your grills.

[James Debo Harrison]

Blam, Blam, blam. Warren three times in a row. He pick up 11 and a first down. Then gain. Well, he said, hey, let me get some of that.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me get some work.

[James Debo Harrison]

What he break it for?

[Joe Hayden]

38.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, my goodness. Did he run through somebody's tackle like they weren't there.

[Joe Hayden]

Like they weren't even there.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like they weren't even there. Followed by another run.

[Joe Hayden]

Damn, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Three yards. That should have been a loss. No, no, y' all can't keep doing this for 60 minutes. Y' all ain't used to this. No, no, you ain't used to this. You've been in Miami too long. Oh, no, no.

[Joe Hayden]

You're not used to the elements. It's cold outside.

[James Debo Harrison]

What it like, Joe? Tell them what it like when you come up in that cold at first time. Yeah, you don't want none of that.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't. Man, you trying to get to the bleachers. Are the seats warm over there? You heard too. They want to play gangster, act like it's not cold. Y' all are freezing.

[James Debo Harrison]

You can hear the bleachers, right? Lip doing like, where's the. Let me go ahead and finish it off. We done. Man, that took enough of a beating. We done ran it at him. We done punished them enough.

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[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

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[James Debo Harrison]

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[James Debo Harrison]

Let me hit my. Let me hit my guy for a 19 yard touchdown.

[Joe Hayden]

But that's the way you do it, Debo. That play action, that man was wide open. They expecting to get cracked. Crack.

[James Debo Harrison]

Cracked again.

[Joe Hayden]

Cracked again and cracked again.

[James Debo Harrison]

Five runs, no one pass, 71 yards. Touchdown.

[Joe Hayden]

That drive was beautiful.

[James Debo Harrison]

B A U T F. God say.

[Joe Hayden]

That'S how you win first down. No, that's how you get it again. Then. Yeah, Warren.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. Go ahead, Gangwell, get some.

[James Debo Harrison]

Go get some. Oh, it's sweet out here. Go get you some.

[Joe Hayden]

It's sweet out here. Everybody can get them some.

[James Debo Harrison]

Everybody can get some. I thought about Danny, listen, they get out there, they, you know, hey, I.

[Joe Hayden]

Thought about going to get me some.

[James Debo Harrison]

You thought about going to get you some.

[Joe Hayden]

Almost would have got there.

[James Debo Harrison]

You. Yeah, Come on, Debo. Yes, sir. They had you out there thinking you go ahead, smack you. Somebody talk to me. Yeah. You know what the defense did when they came back out there? Three. And now third down. Hey, hey. That boy came all the way from the depths for that sack.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, bro. Jalen ran 20. He ran a 40 yard dash.

[James Debo Harrison]

Full speed, full speed.

[Joe Hayden]

Pushed him down, pushed him down. Respectful. Get down, chump.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, my. How did he not just. Hey, just you out of the pocket. Just throw it away.

[Joe Hayden]

He said he steady pump faking and you're out of the pocket. What do you. Nope, they're covered. Throw it away. You could save yourself a sack.

[James Debo Harrison]

No, he can't pass ball. I don't know what he was doing.

[Joe Hayden]

And he run it to the left side. You left handed. Throw it out of bounds, Coach. But that's better for us because Jalen running up on him.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, man, still. Let's get the ball back though. We cooking a little bit. I'm trying to figure out. It was 10 plays, 77 yards for a touchdown. Hey, hey. It was highlighted with your boy Rogers.

[Joe Hayden]

Caught him with that. Caught him with that 12, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

Caught him with the 12, man, bro. Caught him with the 12 minutes.

[Joe Hayden]

Smart, smart. So smart.

[James Debo Harrison]

First down.

[Joe Hayden]

He knew it that first down.

[James Debo Harrison]

He's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Don't let him get off the field. Get over here. Snap the ball.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man. That was beautiful. He's in control.

[James Debo Harrison]

Said, hey, go ahead, give me the ball twice. I'm gonna get nine for you each time. Boom, boom. I ain't gonna lie to you though. Got lucky they dropped that interception.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, yeah, it's cold outside.

[James Debo Harrison]

But Roger said, hey, let me go ahead. Fire. Move a hot 16.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, you know other people that could catch that ball? That man, that man over there.

[Joe Hayden]

That man.

[James Debo Harrison]

They let us do that on third 12. What they let us do on third.

[Joe Hayden]

12, Joe, that man turned into his inner Debo and started tossing people and stiff arming people. So, look, don't disrespect. I love my man. You know, the safety. Boom, he threw. Then he hit him with a juke juke. And then I love to get in the end zone when he threw out that stiff arm back just to dk. Stop doing that with people.

[James Debo Harrison]

Kids out here, boy, I told you about doing that. They got people out there. Why? They got a mom and daddy, wife. They got kids out there.

[Joe Hayden]

People that they love do that to them. They got people that they love. How they got people that they love.

[James Debo Harrison]

People that they love out here. You out here doing that, too.

[Joe Hayden]

I love people, too.

[James Debo Harrison]

Everybody. Ain't nothing else on the money. Now. You go do that to them. I'm gonna talk to you about that. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Mean, disrespectful. So the score that.

[James Debo Harrison]

But we have.

[Joe Hayden]

We are 213 right now, Debo.

[James Debo Harrison]

21 3. Twinkie, as I like to say. Twinkie. 1 3. Hey, man. Hey, Miami. Get back out there and Cam go ahead and gets him a tackle.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, you know why? You know why? You know why?

[Joe Hayden]

Why?

[James Debo Harrison]

Because the backup forced him back in inside, stayed where he was supposed to.

[Joe Hayden]

Stay because you know Cam's pursuing. That's one thing Cam gonna do.

[James Debo Harrison]

Question.

[Joe Hayden]

He's going to pursuing. He's running.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen, man, I really feel like they were listening to us, bro. Like, hey, run the ball down in the down. Now drop your nuts. Don't. They ain't running the ball. They ain't running the ball. Them boys averaging almost 200 yards a game. Look here, man. Second down, my boy High Smith drops a potential pick. Oh, yeah. I ain't tripping, though.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't tripping.

[James Debo Harrison]

Tripping.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't tripping, though. He right where he need to be. That's how you back under it.

[James Debo Harrison]

No question.

[Joe Hayden]

In the right spot.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, hey, what they. Hey, what they do? That was coverage by the DBs to allow that time for coverage. Sack by PW.

[Joe Hayden]

Your good man, P Dub by this time right now, I'm turned. I'm turned at the crate. Cause I'm like, first down, you got Cam making a tackle on the bypass. On the. On the. On all. All the way over there.

[James Debo Harrison]

No game.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, Second down, Everybody's hype. We know they're trying to pass Highsmith Drops the pick. And then third down, we get a sack by P Dub.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Hayden]

Turn at the crib.

[James Debo Harrison]

Turn at the crib. Abrah. The Steelers get the ball back and score again for the fourth time in the last four possessions.

[Joe Hayden]

Four drives.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen, listen. Nine play, 81 yards. Mixing it up with the run in the pass gain. Well, running that thing. Roger. Spreading that thing out to him. Hitting fry move for a nice Twinkie too.

[Joe Hayden]

Can we say the biggest play of that drive? The taunting, they got the taunting had them looking crazy for standing over him. That kept the drive alive. Yeah, we were still gonna get it. We still get it. We still don't get it done. We still get it.

[James Debo Harrison]

We'll get it done, brother. Listen, man, we got Rogers out here scrambling, you know, like he 22 again. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

He was out there chilling. I love he'd just be out there like he's in season. So much control, relaxing.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, hey. And we running the ball. Hey, we said. You know what they said? Hey, man, game well done. Got him enough Warner, got him enough Smith. Go get you some.

[Joe Hayden]

Go ahead, get you. Go ahead, get your. Get back on.

[James Debo Harrison]

14 touchdown to the house. 14, y', all, 28. 28 to what, three.

[Joe Hayden]

28 to three.

[James Debo Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie to you. Right? What from here wasn't the type ball that I like to see.

[Joe Hayden]

I hate this type of ball. I actually wrote down right now at this point in the game, go ahead, Debo. You go ahead. You go ahead. This point in the game, this is what we don't want. We're happy because we won, because it could be here.

[James Debo Harrison]

And I was saying, I mean, I'm understanding, but I'm not understanding because the effort still needs to be there.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Six plays, 65 yards for a touchdown. They missed the two point conversion. It's 9 to 28. Miami really wasn't trying to like, come back, come back.

[Joe Hayden]

I think they were taking the time. They was really. Yeah, that was. That was wild on their part.

[James Debo Harrison]

On top of that, Dolphins get out there and do a three and out.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, every league got hit with the replay assist. I thought that sucks. That sucks for us. But still, it is what it is. It's a three and out. A three and out is three and out.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yep, yep. Miami gets the ball back again. I think it was almost nine plays, 90 yards, that one.

[Joe Hayden]

The one thing on this drive that kind of was the only thing that pissed me off was we got second and 17, you know what I'm saying? Don't bring with the what's my man Swint? What, 33, the outside linebacker. You gotta take the second man through the zone. I seen Jalen Ramsey like, bro, you that, that's you on the big plays. When we know end of the day, start playing top down. They need chunks, they need big plays. It's second to 17. Anything in front of us is going to be third and short, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got to start playing situationally and start playing a little bit smarter. Like, understand they have to get chunk plays. You got second to 17 back up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Understand the wheel routes will kill you. Crossers, check downs, we come down to those, we rally down to those and make those plays. So that was the biggest one for me on the drive. Like, all right, Other stuff, okay, little plays here and there, but somebody's running wide open and they get a 26 yard gain. Those are the ones. I'm like this. Come on, bro. Like, that's easily eliminated.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, definitely, man. Still is. Again, follow it up with a three and out. Miami gets back out there and game's basically over. With we in the game. What was it? 28 to 15. They went for a couple two point conversions that they get. They didn't get. My thing is this. We did everything. I ain't gonna say everything. I'm just.

[Joe Hayden]

We stopped the game at the third quarter. You stopped the game fix.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's it. Because I feel like we did everything that we were supposed to do except for the things that I feel like we need to fix. And the thing, you know, I feel like we need to fix is like we have to improve on third down efficiency as the off the offense. We need to get better on third down efficiency. Yeah, I think we're only four of 13 on third down. And when we get to that point at the end of the game as an offense, we need to be able to close it out and burn the clock out. We can't. We can't just turn it over. You know, three and out and again over to the defensive side. Loved everything they did. Like, except for we need to be able to close it out in the fourth quarter. When it come down to it, that fourth quarter, I believe tua, or not even tua, the offense, even with the last little thing at the end, they had 192 yards in the fourth quarter. They only had a total of 285 for the whole game.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, like, we need to be able.

[James Debo Harrison]

To close it up. We need to Be able to handle success and still come out there with that same energy and intensity that we did when the game was tight. You know, I feel like guys weren't flying to the ball like they were when the game was tight. You know, we were playing, you know, a little looser, which. You are going to play a little looser. But letting the team go and make two 80 plus or 60 to 80, 90 yard drives. Yeah, that's. That, that, that, that's not what I want to do. You don't want to put that on tape. Like, you don't, you don't. That's not what you want to do. And the other thing is, you know, it was, it was places where, you know, we didn't fill the gaps correctly, where we, like I said, we left meat on the bone. That could have been opportunities for less yardage than they actually got. You know, we could have, if we did what, you know, we did at the be the first three quarters, we could have left these boys out of here with less than, you know, 50.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[James Debo Harrison]

And that, that would be something to. But I do, I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm extremely, extremely happy with where we went from last week to this week. I'm hoping this progresses week in and week out and I'm gonna be 100. Dude, if this can happen and keep happening week in and week out, you could change my. On what we need to do with time, especially if the increase keeps going and we get deep into the playoffs and the numbers look like what they've been looking like for the offense and the defense where they're not giving up this, they're not giving up that. From this week forward, it's 285 total yards. If we could get. It was only. And like I said, we, we, we shut down that at 191 in the fourth quarter. If we could look like that. And that continues to look like that. Oh yeah, I'm gonna change my tone. That.

[Joe Hayden]

Gotta Change the tone 1000%. And this is the thing that I will say about the Steelers too. I'm geeked about the way they went out there and played and we've seen it before, we know that they had a skill, we know that they can make it happen. People in the right positions and the stuff that we're grading them on and the stuff that we're judging them in on about the things that they're not doing isn't skill based. It's technique. It's like just simple things of making the Big plays. When you say that we bought the first three quarters. Brother Tua has 65 passing yards, you know what I'm saying? He had 188 passing yards in the fourth quarter and that was those three drives. A lot of those were just check downs and giving stuff. But end of day, like you said, we don't need to be doing that. When my man gave up the wheel route to the tight end, he's wide open. Those plays are things that we can't have. It's second to 17, we coming off a sack. We need to get off the field on this possession. There should be no reason why they get, get that. So on the defensive side, I was very, very, very happy and impressed by the way that they just, the first three quarters they shut it down, they didn't lose on first down. They were very, very competitive and they knew H and he couldn't, if he couldn't run the ball, they weren't going to win. They put it on tour to try to throw it and he couldn't do it. So I mean, I love the way that we did that on, on defense, the offense side of the ball too. If we can win on first down and like that's what happens when we start, when we don't win these drives and we start stalling out and we punt. It' Jalen Warden the ball on first and we run it and we don't get any yards, you know what I'm saying? Second down we run, we don't get any yards. It's kind of like we kind of, unless the, the offensive line, we still have to be getting those four yard gains, those six yard games still trying to come. And like you said, we were over six in the first at the beginning on third downs and we were going forward on fourth. But like these third and ones, some of them when Warren was getting those tosses and they were meeting them at the one yard line, it's real tough for us to sometimes get that one yard. We got to be able to get those, you know what I'm saying? In these big games, to be able to extend drives and be able to keep them going, not keep putting our defense back out there. They did a great job scoring four times in a row. That was elite. The defense did a good job on stopping them on first downs and being able to just execute. But it was just that the fourth quarter was bad because it's like, I know the bimbo don't break, but at the end of the day that offense is spoiled.

[James Debo Harrison]

They can't do.

[Joe Hayden]

They can't do nothing. They shouldn't be able to just walk the ball down the field. We got to not leave people open. And you know what I'm saying? I understand. Of keeping stuff in front of you. Check down, check down. They can methodically get 3, 3, 3, you know what I'm saying? But not 16, 17, 26. People being wide open like that is not what we need to do. But that game was amazing. I felt great as a Steelers fan, because offense, you know, we're going to find your flow. But gamewell, Warren, all the tight ends, Firemouth, Washington, DK Metcalf, when we do get the ball and spread it around and our running game is good and we're getting our players in space, you know what I'm saying? It's. It's a good flow, but we do always have to make sure our running game is going. They have to be worried about that, that the best drive was the five consistent runs. We got six, we got three. We got a first gain. Well, he got four, you know what I'm saying? When he wasn't supposed to get any. And then he gives you 38, you know what I'm saying? Stand with it. You know what I'm saying? Get. Stay the sticks is what we got to do with.

[James Debo Harrison]

Stay with it, keep going, stay with it.

[Joe Hayden]

You know what I'm saying? And, like, off the offense, 3 yards is good, not no zero. We don't need any zeros. We don't need any losses. We get three, we get four. That's like we're ahead of the sticks. And with the Steelers, if you can stay ahead of the sticks, we keep our options open. With the tight ends, being able to throw it to him, being able to get it to dk, being able to get it to Warren, being able to get it to gain. Well, we have a lot of options there. So offense look good. Defense maintain that. You know what you can do. You know, when you're in your assignment, when you. When McQueen, when Queen, if the lineman has the gap, he can shoot that gap and then go do it. We can do that all the time. Everybody get your stuff. And now he's clean. Now he can go make a play.

[James Debo Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie. So for me, this was the first time where I could sit down and look at the defense and know exactly what I was looking at and realize, like, okay, this is what it is. That's what it is. To where before you were sitting there guessing, like, who's supposed to be here, who's supposed to be there. Like, how is this. I'm like, oh, I can see this. Like, yeah, it's simple. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Recognition was easy. Like, it was. It was so simple. Like, you know what I'm saying? And like you said, the. The fixes just stay where you at. A lot of it was peekaboo.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's not your play to make. Stay. Stay where you're supposed to stay. And then if as long as your partner do what he's supposed to do, it's gonna spill to either you or.

[Joe Hayden]

Him, you'll be able to make that play.

[James Debo Harrison]

The Calvary pursuit run to the ball.

[Joe Hayden]

Calvary's coming.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, you said that outside. When the cornerbacks keep them outside, make them come inside. Do you see Cam Hayward running full speed? Don't make him waste that energy. If you don't let the dude get outside of all of us. No, force him back inside so he can get fumbed on. Give Cam a reason to be running out there, because he gonna get on you. Force him inside. And I'm coming full speed. Queens coming full speed.

[James Debo Harrison]

Offense running the ball effectively and continuing and sticking with it, like, down in and down, out. You got Rogers out there. I think he's strung 13 consecutive completions at once. You know what I'm saying? 85.2%. Like, the second and highest in his career. Dude. Pass rating 125, the highest has been all season. Like, dude, it was comfortable. I'm liking where I see the offense, the office, two. Two weeks in a row. I'm liking. I'm liking where I see it off. Two weeks in a row.

[Joe Hayden]

Two weeks in a row.

[James Debo Harrison]

Defense don't. Went on ahead and dropped the. Drop the numbers down. Drop the numbers down. Drop the last, you know, against, against. But we won. But the numbers was. Was hella high. We don't drop the numbers down. We don't drop. We don't drop everything down.

[Joe Hayden]

We didn't drop anything down.

[James Debo Harrison]

Fourth quarter. I gotta. I want to see better. That's not something you want to see on tape. Because people go start thinking, oh, okay, well, maybe this will work. That'll. No, no, no, no. We don't need to put it out there. We don't want them to think we giving up late, letting back on anything. And you catch that rock, I don't care. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 yards. Fire on them. Doing a lot of pushing out of bounds at the end. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

Man, we was out. Yeah, just keep it like I Said.

[James Debo Harrison]

Man, lock in baby dolphin training at its best. You know that, boy. Hey, listen, man, I'm gonna tell you right now. They let you in dolphin training, that's the waters. You know what I'm saying? But next week, we lying tame.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, that's gonna be the. Now my dog now, that's when we gotta come out and really. And really show.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen.

[Joe Hayden]

Circus with it.

[James Debo Harrison]

They call us the Pittsburgh Lion Tamer. Stillers and I just made that up.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, you did. On the spot. You did.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's what we do. All these animals. We Stillers.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

We men.

[Joe Hayden]

It's time.

[James Debo Harrison]

What we look like losing to some type of animal?

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, man, what we not gonna do, though, is this. We can't disrespect. We can't disrespect the lines.

[James Debo Harrison]

I ain't disrespecting the Lions because they got.

[Joe Hayden]

They got Gibbs.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm talking about us.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

This is what we do. We go.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay, I gotta get. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Hey, Joe, I gotta get my eye.

[James Debo Harrison]

We ain't got your orange on today. Don't be scared.

[Joe Hayden]

I gotta get my trash talk game right then.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, you ain't got orange on today. Don't be scared. Your boy Miles Garrett, he tweaked this hip, but he said, hey. Oh, he playing through anything you dag on, right? He is.

[Joe Hayden]

Miles got. Miles got records to break and things to do.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, who we playing? Who y'? All? Who y' all got?

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, so next three games, we got the Bills, Steelers and Bengals.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, don't even.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, listen, listen.

[James Debo Harrison]

We give him last time.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, listen, listen. They haven't played the. We haven't played the Bills yet. So Miles Garrett hasn't sacked Josh Allen, but Allen gave up 28. He's been sacked 28 times this year. And Houston sacked him eight times in one game. Then we got the Steelers. When he went against the Steelers, guess how many sacks he had, Deebo? Zero. Not one. Okay?

[James Debo Harrison]

And that's what he go get when he sees again.

[Joe Hayden]

And then. But he played the Bengals.

[James Debo Harrison]

Don't count on that.

[Joe Hayden]

He played the Bengals. He played the Bengals. That was the first game of the season. And he popped off with two sacks. Since the Steelers game, Deebo. Since the Steelers game, Miles has had seven games and he's had 17 and a half sacks. He played the Dolphins got one, New England got five, jets got one. Ravens got four. Raiders got three. San Fran got one, Titans got one. And then the Bears just now got one and a half. So with that being said.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, you saying he gonna break the record?

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, with that being said, he's definitely gonna break the record. He's going to break the record. When if not when he gonna break the record, Joe? So right now he only needs one sack to break it.

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[Joe Hayden]

So if he sacks Josh Allen.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hold on, I'm asking you. When you saying he go break the sack record? He's going to break it the week. It ain't gonna damn sure ain't gonna be the week after.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, he's going to do it either next week or the last game of the season. He's either going to do it versus the Bills.

[James Debo Harrison]

Okay, well, you need to realize bills or the back. He need a sack just to tie it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. So he probably going to either sack Josh Allen twice and just. He might just do. You know what? If he. He's going to do it this week, he ain't got time to waste.

[James Debo Harrison]

He ain't got time to waste. He might start getting a little more janky.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. People, things. Things start getting a little weird, you know?

[James Debo Harrison]

I know when he see them Steelers, that ain't gonna be the game, baby.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna try. He gonna try for it. He gonna try. I mean, hey, he gonna try to break the record.

[James Debo Harrison]

Your eyes may shine and your teeth may grip, but not over here with this Pittsburgh. You hear me? Okay. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

You know, like I could do what.

[James Debo Harrison]

I could do with Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

You got a little bar Debo? That was actually.

[James Debo Harrison]

I got bars. You know what I'm saying? I do a little something here, there, everywhere.

[Joe Hayden]

Do you think. Do you think he's going to break the sock record, Brother Debo?

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, let me stop there. You want me to be honest?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. Be pleased you got me over here. Like I'm talking crazy.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

You told him he need to get sick.

[James Debo Harrison]

Hey, listen, I was disappointed that he didn't get six.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm like, that he didn't get sick. He let me down.

[Joe Hayden]

Now he need one and a half in three games. And you talking about which game you gonna do it or Joe?

[James Debo Harrison]

I was like, probably next week. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, he probably get it this week and if he don't, he for show. Go get it against the Bangles. I feel you, brother. Listen, man, I'm just saying, man, I just, you know, you know, I'm just trying to keep it, you know, kind of like a, you know, buck 10, something like that, you know, maybe a buck 50. You know, Zach Taylor said that there is zero consideration to sit injury prone Joe burrow out for the final three games despite the Bengals being eliminated from the playoffs. You think this is smart? Would you do it? What's your, what's your. What's your thought on this?

[Joe Hayden]

How hurt is he?

[James Debo Harrison]

He's not hurt. They saying he's just injury prone.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, if he's, if he's, if he's healthy, I'm probably. I'm going. I'm going to play him especially like Right now, he hasn't been. I want, I want us to go into the off season feeling good, especially if you're healthy. If you're not healthy, if you can't play, then don't play. But if you're, if you can play, then I want to see what we got going on, like trying to get the offense at least keep moving right into the right direction. You played last week. You haven't been playing good, you know what I'm saying? Since you've been back and I love you, Joe Burrow, but at the end of the day, you are. We are still paying you right now 60 million. If you're hurt and you can't play, then we'll sit you down. But if you're able to go, then I need to have you out there and trying to do what we can do. That's. That's how.

[James Debo Harrison]

What, what do you feel this or how this plays into his, his comments he had about him not, you know, having fun doing it, all the other stuff.

[Joe Hayden]

The Bengals are cheap. The Bengals didn't even clear off the. The stands, you know what I'm saying? So they're like, look, brother, I don't give a dag on what you talking about. We're paying you $60 million a year. So you're here and we're going to have you under contract. So, bro, to get out of there, he might have to do some act like, look, I want out of here. I'm not happy, I'm not comfortable. And then Bengals either gonna happen.

[James Debo Harrison]

Okay, so I see where you going? You saying he trying to get to where like, yo, I need. But listen, he can't get. He can't just get out of there. Dude, he got two receivers over there. That's, that's, that's adding a lot to it. And you see how it went when he only had one available last week.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm going to tell you this. If you're, if he keeps getting hit upside the head and keeps getting hurt, that's not going to help him at all either. You can go somewhere with a good offensive line. You can be in a Jared Goff situation where you got a nice offensive line, good running game, solid receivers. I take Sam Brown. You know what I'm saying? Williams. Well, maybe not just the Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, but you got a really good offensive line. You have a great running game behind you. You don't need as good as receivers if you're getting protected and you got more time to stand up there upright. So with Joe Burrow. I'm like, look, if I'm not getting.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know how much an offensive line gonna cost?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, look, they got, man, money. They got money. They gonna figure it out. The Lions.

[James Debo Harrison]

Dude, you got, you got, you got, you got some two receivers and you got Joe. Not to mention your defense needs help. You'd last. You dead last in defense, bro. Dead last there.

[Joe Hayden]

Look, I, I'm not saying what the Bengals, they're not going to do what they got to do because they have to. They, they paid their off, they paid the receivers, they paid them people. And they're not organization known to want to. Want to pay a lot of people. So, I mean, end of the day they're going to have to draft well and get some people in free agency. But I don't think the Bengals are going to be able to do anything to make them relevant. I mean, unless they protect Joe.

[James Debo Harrison]

Joe, you just said they ain't even clean the seats off, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what, that's what I'm saying. So that's what Joe, Joe, they going to have his rights. He going to have to say something to the point of where he's really uncomfortable is going to put them in a situation where they just can't keep him. He's gonna have to just be like, no, I went out of here.

[James Debo Harrison]

So what's, what's the ticket for him though?

[Joe Hayden]

What does it look like? I mean, she.

[James Debo Harrison]

What? Three first. You're giving up? Because you go. You giving up first?

[Joe Hayden]

Probably. Was it like three? Probably three.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Probably three. I don't know if you got like a, if you, if you.

[James Debo Harrison]

I think it might be a little more than that.

[Joe Hayden]

You think I might be more than that. Okay.

[James Debo Harrison]

You gotta add maybe a two in there with it or something, you know, maybe a player. They can't just give you all that. How many years he got left under his contract? Because you getting him with that plus years on the contract, right?

[Joe Hayden]

You got Joe Burrow. Let me see. I know he signed. I gotta check his deal. I know it was a five year.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah. How long ago was that?

[Joe Hayden]

Let me check.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't know.

[Joe Hayden]

I just. I, I like where I don't see them.

[James Debo Harrison]

I, I don't, I don't. I don't see them allowing that to happen. If they do that, man, they basically conceding that. Okay, we're giving up. You can't.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, that's for sure. I mean, you, you, that's the, the thing that you want is a franchise quarterback. And they for sure Have.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, you got it.

[Joe Hayden]

So now you need to make sure he stands upright. But then at the same time, the defense winning, scoring 34 points and losing six games. When you score 34, how.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, 32nd defense. That's how.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

At some point, dude, I don't know. At some point, something. Something gotta give. Like, something gotta.

[Joe Hayden]

But that's the thing, too.

[James Debo Harrison]

Is it the players or is the scheme?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, them boys. I don't know, dude.

[James Debo Harrison]

How many years ago was able to Super Bowl? Three, four. I don't know. Four, Three. Like, it wasn't that long ago, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Like.

[James Debo Harrison]

And all of a sudden you just went to dead last. Hot garbage.

[Joe Hayden]

Hot garbage.

[James Debo Harrison]

32Nd and everything, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't win that way, Debo.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like, it's hard to be 32nd and everything. Run pass. Like. Well, if you do run past, you're gonna be total anyway. But that's like trying to be first and everything. Run past. Total. It's hard.

[Joe Hayden]

Do you think as hard as it.

[James Debo Harrison]

Is to be excellent, it's hard to be that trash.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. Do you think they should start them for the final three games?

[James Debo Harrison]

If it's me, I'm starting because this is your job. This is what you.

[Joe Hayden]

This is. I mean, that's.

[James Debo Harrison]

Unless I'm scared that he's gonna get, you know, hurt, and I don't want to take the chance, like, Miles Garrett coming in and y' all don't plan on at least doubling and tripling him.

[Joe Hayden]

It gets to the point where, I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, does Jamar.

[James Debo Harrison]

He just got back, dude.

[Joe Hayden]

So it's like, does Jamar. Does Jamar Chase. When you getting. When you have the quarterbacks and you have your star players, and it's really like, okay, so does Jamar Chase go play with just a backup quarterback? Because we think that he's going to get hurt and should Chase not play because he's making $30 million a year and there's no point on the season, like, we're not going to be able to go to the playoffs for sure.

[James Debo Harrison]

If I'm the players, I'm playing. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

If I'm. That's what I'm saying. If you're the player, like, that's what you.

[James Debo Harrison]

You.

[Joe Hayden]

You would want to go play. And I would think if you're healthy. If you're healthy, I don't want you going out there like this. Nah. Like, I really need two more weeks, but I'm trying to get out there because, like, I can make it happen. No, I don't want you out there, Joe Burrow. Then you're out there already. Not 100%. And there's no reason for you to be out there playing for 900%. But if you're 100% and you're going to the game and you're just putting on street clothes because now these three games don't mean nothing. You are still getting $60 million this year to play football games. Because that's your job. That's what you do. That's what you were hired to do. Even because we still have three more games. Like the fans are coming to the games. Like, it is still your job to finish out the season and go out there and put up, put your best foot forward. In my opinion. If you're healthy, if you're hurt and you're trying to go out there and struggle and limping around, no rest yourself. You know what I'm saying?

[James Debo Harrison]

I understand.

[Joe Hayden]

Get back to 100%. So that's kind of where I sit with it.

[James Debo Harrison]

If he's out there and, you know, he came back earlier hoping to be able to go in and do a playoff push and he's not really 100%, you know, then yeah, okay, I can see you going ahead and sitting him down so that you don't have to take any more, you know, attempts of, of him actually going and, you know, re injuring something because it's not fully healed anyway. He was just, you know, doing it so that he could, he could get through, you know.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. He knew y' all had a better chance.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yes, I understand that. But if I'm. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. If I'm able to play, I'm just, I'm playing and like, well, I, I still playing. Like, I, I don't know, bro. I still gotta play. Unless I can't play. Playing with a little hurt. Little Andrew.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

Nothing, you know, nothing. Nothing. That's surgical. You know, I'm gonna play with a little. Little pull this, tweak that. As long as it ain't nothing that I could potentially put me out out. If he redoes. That was his toe. That's out.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. Then we saw nothing over if. Yeah, nothing lingering, man. I want you to be out there fresh because at the end of the day, you are my franchise quarterback. So I don't want to put you out there because we do next year we're trying to retool and like, I. You're going to be here. So we know we need linemen, we need defense. I got to get some stuff to protect you. I got to. I know what we need for you because you're obviously not happy. You know what I'm saying? So I feel them for saying, I'm not going to sit down. Joe Burrow being healthy, but just knowing y' all got this quarterback, he's not happy with what's going on with the defense. So just. There's some stuff they gotta get fixed over there.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't know. They need to figure out what's going on. I think they might need to sit down, talk to him, you know, have a real conversation and, you know, and figure out what's going on. He said.

[Joe Hayden]

I feel like he'll tell.

[James Debo Harrison]

It's personal. It's football, you know, it's combination of both. Well, hey, man, let's sit down and talk to you. Let's see what's going on. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Hayden]

I feel like he would tell him I'm getting sacked a lot. And our defense keeps giving up crazy amounts of points. And I feel like this is hurting me that we can't. Like, they can't close out the games.

[James Debo Harrison]

All right, brother. We got some super chats, though. Oh, what is that? Sell more food donated. $10. $10. Thank you. We appreciate it. They said it's sweet up in here in Cleveland. I don't care what nobody say. All I know, the fans and all the haters got a dog bone in their mouth. Less F. No lfg. Dog Pound. That's you.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't care what nobody says. All I know, the fans haters got dog bone.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Go respect. That's why I don't care one thing about. No, I know. Be quiet real quick. Debo. That's what a little Debo my. Right here. We weren't talking.

[James Debo Harrison]

I'm talking to you. Go ahead.

[Joe Hayden]

That's the real fans. I know they got the dog on their mouth. That's why I love the land. I want us to get good, too. We gonna talk about it. We rocking. I'm rocking with the land also. Thank you. Let's go, Dog pound.

[James Debo Harrison]

Oh, Lord, Lord. Covenant. Like, donate a hundred dollars. Oh, Covenant Light. Listen, man, that. That's. That's part of the show now, man.

[Joe Hayden]

I need you. Every. Every episode, we gotta holler at Covenant.

[James Debo Harrison]

Every. Every day we go check in on Covenant Life. No matter what. It don't matter. Make sure. Hey, make sure y' all check in on Covenant Life Force. Y' all can hear us talking. We ain't talking to y', all, but we talking to the people that's talking to us. You know what I'm saying? It says, first, where's the cigar?

[Joe Hayden]

I was expecting that.

[James Debo Harrison]

Right. You're right.

[Joe Hayden]

I respecting that, too.

[James Debo Harrison]

So this is what had happened. I was in a little bit of a rush, and my humidor is right there. And as I was sitting here thinking it was a 15 seconds into the countdown, I didn't want to be running back with the cigar and not be able to do my introduction. But don't worry, I have it next week at the Retain the Lions, you know. And second, put Joe in with this helmet.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, Covey. I was.

[James Debo Harrison]

Remember, I heard the ground country. I heard the ground crunching after Jalen Ramsey said when he pushed down DK Booger flipping my guy. Hey, man, what's this? This the new thing?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. For the first down.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know, man.

[James Debo Harrison]

That's the new thing.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm not.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm not a fan of the dick of the nose one, but, you know, they can't. They can't. They can't. They say so I can't wipe my nose. I guess I'm a dig it. It's crazy. Yeah.

[James Debo Harrison]

F and R. What? Arthur Smith. What's. What's up, Eff? What's that?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, fu.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't know. Yeah. What Arthur Smith do.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying.

[James Debo Harrison]

Baby G's a cousin. Baby Jesus cousin can hit the center pass to 88 and get up. Stop hating on the Stillers. Oh, get up hating on us.

[Joe Hayden]

Probably.

[James Debo Harrison]

Probably check in on them. You know, I have to do something. Make sure we check in on them.

[Joe Hayden]

Nobody. You know how it is, bro. There's nobody else. They. They not really believing. They not really believing in the sellers right now. Now we got to show them consistency. We know we could do it. All you got to do is go 4 0. When it matter getting to the dance. Listen, they go four zero.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen, we. We doing this right now. We incline. We excelling. We going up.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[James Debo Harrison]

We going up, y'. All. Yeah. If y' all don't know what the incline is, come to Pittsburgh. That's all we do. We incline. Ride the incline. You go see what we're doing.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, my goodness.

[James Debo Harrison]

You go see what we doing. Offense, defense. That's what we doing. Michael, what is it? Hedegar donated $5. He said, what's your reaction when DK threw Minka out the club? Hey, listen, I told you, man. He can't be doing that to. To, you know, he can't I was. That's. That's somebody's child.

[Joe Hayden]

I was mad because I know how pissed Minka was, and that's my good man. And he's a baller. I wish he would have made anybody.

[James Debo Harrison]

See him try and come back to get him. And then got blocked.

[Joe Hayden]

He got blocked. That was the worst part, when you.

[James Debo Harrison]

Trying to get him. That was the bad trying to go tackle him. And you got back, bro, wasn't it? If you could have got back to him, at least laid hands on him, you would have felt a little better.

[Joe Hayden]

You would have felt a little better. You would have felt like you got your get back and now you like, man, get out my way, man. Let me at least tackle him so I could get thrown and then tackle. But getting blocked was bad. I just felt bad for Mink. Minka is a baller. You see how much love Minka got when he got hurt from everybody going out there, right?

[James Debo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? But, you know, that's part of the game. I gotta go.

[Joe Hayden]

You out there with Horse, man. Hey, everybody gonna get got.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen, man, I gotta go ahead and put these dick beaters on you. Ain't that what my daddy said? He said, I put the beaters on you, boy. You know, he said, hey. He said also. Hey, that's my daddy, not me. Now, listen, I know. I heard he long and gone, you know, but hey, oh, my goodness. Listen, bro, you brought out a. He also listen. He also said. He said also. I feel like Kenny G needs more carries to see if he can spark or rush attack. What's your opinion?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, I can respect it. I mean, I'm with it. I'm with it. I know Jalen Warren. Jalen be hitting the hole, too. But I can say, listen, Gainwell got crazy.

[James Debo Harrison]

Y' all don't realize, like, this is, you know, this is a give and take. Just because one person has a good game against this person don't mean they go have that same game every time they get in there. Yeah, we have both. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. They gotta. They got a one, two punch over there.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, I mean, like.

[James Debo Harrison]

Like with. With how many care, I think. And what's the dude's name? Can't think his name right now. But I know Montgomery because he trains with. He trains in Arizona with me. He. We had the same training. And I ain't gonna lie to you. Y' all better be ready to go ahead and.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, you talking about Montgomery and Gibbs?

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, Gibbs. Yes. Yeah, yeah. When we play them, man, they better be going. Ready to go ahead and drop. Drop, shoulder, body, everything on that dude, man. Cause he looking for work. He looking for action. That boy dead left, like 700 pounds. Dude lower, out of control.

[Joe Hayden]

Y.

[James Debo Harrison]

Listen, he ain't tall in stature, but dude got power, man. I'm telling you right now. He is not trying to duck no smoke. He looking for all that.

[Joe Hayden]

We got to be ready. But I'm g. Tell you what I'm saying about my man. With Warren and. And gainwell, we got 24 carries. I'm not mad at 12 and 12. Let them. Both of them dudes, whatever. However you want to do it. Both of them do. I feel like both of them need to be getting the ball because Warren is not. He's not playing either. He's running that thing coming down full speed, full tilt. And Gainwell, I love his change of pace. He got jukes and everything. So both of them need to begin, I think, around equal amount. If we carry 24, split it.

[James Debo Harrison]

I don't know. You go, you. I mean, switch them out. You know, you. You give it to the. To the hot hand.

[Joe Hayden]

The hot one.

[James Debo Harrison]

Yeah, give it to the hot hand. I believe in like an even rotation. That way, you know, you don't have anybody feeling slighted. That's just how I do it, man.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, for sure, for sure. When I say even, it means if buddy's hot, then this one he's gonna get more. And then if. If.

[James Debo Harrison]

Nah, nah. You gotta rotate them, man. Cause you can have both of them hot. It's been times where you see the boys over there in Detroit, they both running for a buck and some change, you know?

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, for sure, for sure.

[James Debo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? So, hey, look here now. We. We running a little over. It ain't no big thing, but we want to thank you guys again.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[James Debo Harrison]

Joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Make sure you like, subscribe. We will be back here on Friday, Joe. Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Thank you guys for joining. Debo and Joe. Make sure you like and subscribe. Not T. Bow. I can't believe I called you T, Bo. But look, catch us on Friday, baby.

[James Debo Harrison]

And we out.

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[James Debo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

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[James Debo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

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