Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Steelers Free Agency REACTION: Pittsburgh TRADES for Pittman Jr + Le'Veon Bell joins!

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Deebo & Joe, Part 1: Steelers Free Agency REACTION: Pittsburgh TRADES for Pittman Jr + Le'Veon Bell Joins!
Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: March 10, 2026
Host: James ‘Deebo’ Harrison with Joe Hayden & Guest Le'Veon Bell

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Overview

This episode of "Club Shay Shay" features host James "Deebo" Harrison and co-host Joe Hayden reacting in real time to the Pittsburgh Steelers’ free agency moves, most notably the trade for Michael Pittman Jr. They’re joined by special guest Le’Veon Bell for a wide-ranging, unfiltered discussion on NFL crossovers with boxing, issues of athlete credibility, coach and GM dynamics, and what Pittsburgh’s new roster construction means for the franchise’s future. The episode flows between behind-the-scenes stories, analysis, and hilarious energy exchanges—delivering both football insight and personality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Le’Veon Bell vs. The Paul Brothers: The Ducking Debate

(05:08–18:06)

• Le'Veon Bell details his never-materialized fight with Logan Paul, claiming Logan deliberately avoided fighting him despite public bravado about challenging NFL players.

  “He was naming all these players—Tom Brady, Gronkowski... But he made sure Le’Veon Bell’s name wasn’t said.” — Le'Veon Bell (06:15)

• Le'Veon's perspective: Football players transitioning to boxing have athletic advantages, but the ring is a whole different game requiring real training and endurance.

  “Boxing is completely different. Cardio wise, cardiovascular wise… Football players come over to boxing and train, I think like football players like the best athletes in the world. But let's be realistic.” — Le'Veon Bell (08:18)

• The “ducking” saga recounted—Le’Veon provides receipts of ducked contract talks and Logan’s excuses involving WWE bosses. All three hosts roast the performative side of YouTuber/wrestler boxing matches.

  “Logan, you owe me a million dollars now. Logan, you owe me a million dollars. If Foy owe you...” — Le'Veon Bell (16:53)

• Memorable Moment: The trio riff on accepting fights from anybody named Paul:

  "Logan Paul want to duck—give me Jake Paul, give me Chris Paul, Paul Crew... Anybody named Paul, send 'em." — Le'Veon Bell (17:27)

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2. Football vs. Boxing — Athlete Crossover Realities

(18:36–29:54)

• Bell illustrates the gulf between being football-strong and being ring-ready, recounting his own fights and referencing the difference in durability and technique between football players and trained boxers.
• The conversation veers into talking about Clarissa Shields and her bold challenge to male boxers, with Bell and the hosts stressing the reality of size and power differences:

  “She's not eating those [punches]. She's not eating those.” — Le'Veon Bell (29:45)

• They use the Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight as an example, arguing age matters more than name value in crossover bouts.

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3. Pittsburgh Steelers Coaching Shift: Mike McCarthy as Head Coach

(36:03–50:28)

• Discussion pivots to the Steelers’ hiring of Mike McCarthy. Initial skepticism gives way to cautious optimism, emphasizing McCarthy’s understanding of Pittsburgh tradition and his championship focus.

  “He's there because he truly cares. He understands what it is to be a Steeler—a true Steeler. Like, what it is, what that legacy is, what it is all about. It’s about Lombardis. It's about winning championships.” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (36:24)

• Omar Khan’s Influence:
  The hosts praise GM Omar Khan for his aggressive new approach. Previously, Tomlin had outsized say in personnel moves, but with Khan’s vision and McCarthy’s willingness to let the GM operate, the Steelers are entering a new era.

  “This has been the most active free agency that you have seen ever since... since the Steelers have started. And that is a big part of Omar and his vision.” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (37:06)

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4. Steelers Free Agency Moves: Trade for Michael Pittman Jr. and More

(51:30–59:44)

• Harrison shares excitement over trading for Michael Pittman Jr.—receiving him on a good deal with a late pick, pairing him with DK Metcalf, making "the second-best" receiving duo in the AFC North after Chase/Higgins (Bengals).

  “Now we got DK and... Michael Pittman Jr.—are looking like the second best in the North, you know, behind Chase and Higgins.” — Joe Hayden (53:09)

• Analysis of Rico Dowdle’s signing: fit as a physical, productive back complementing Jalen Warren; the Steelers signaling a return to ground-and-pound identity.

  “Mike McCarthy is saying, we're going to run the ball. We're getting back to Steeler football.” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (57:05)

• Praise for value signings: Jamel Dean (cornerback), versatility and depth moves, with an eye on further additions in the draft.

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5. Inside Football: Player Development, Coaching Philosophies, and Roster Construction

(46:33–50:42)

• Joe Hayden breaks down his experience with coaching staff changes, highlighting the importance of unified messaging and proper position development.

  “The way that we studied tape and the way he prepared me to go into the game—I knew what they was about to do.” — Joe Hayden on Mike Tomlin (46:46)

• Discussion about defensive basics and how recent Steelers teams strayed from fundamentals.

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6. Steelers Draft Strategy & AFC North Outlook

(59:44–64:34)

• Steelers have 12 picks; hosts expect further upgrades at linebacker, O-line, maybe receiver, and soundly analyze how the Steelers' roster compares to divisional rivals.

  “Just don't get 12 randos.” — Joe Hayden (63:14)

• Key defensive focus on pairing Jamel Dean with other defensive backs, emphasizing versatility—Jalen Ramsey cited as a “Swiss army knife.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Logan Paul calling out NFL players:

  “You wanna fight NFL players, Logan? ...You know I'm the one who got training. I'm the one who actually do this. What's up? Let's do it in Pittsburgh.” — Le'Veon Bell (06:58)

• On crossover fights:

  "If I race Usain Bolt when he's 60: 'Yeah, I beat the fastest man in the world!' ...Come on, man. Let’s be real." — Le'Veon Bell (08:40)

• On GM Omar Khan:

  “I’ve been telling people, give this man three years and judge him from this point forward.” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (38:14)

• On the Michael Pittman deal:

  “You pair him with DK—Joe, where we at in the AFC North as far as a receiving core?” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (53:09)

• On coaching staff/leadership:

  “A head coach should be as least hands-on as possible because he’s going to get the people he know can do the job so that he don’t have to sit there and micromanage.” — James 'Deebo' Harrison (48:50)

• On defensive upgrades:

  “Don’t forget, we got Ramsey still over here, too… Ramsey’s nickel, Ramsey’s corner, Ramsey’s safety...” — Joe Hayden (64:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:08 — Le’Veon Bell on Logan Paul’s “ducking” and fight saga
• 06:58 — Bell on what it takes to really be a boxer vs. athlete
• 16:48 — Bell on the comedy of ‘Paul vs. Anyone’ and boxing gimmicks
• 36:03 — Bell’s take on the Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy
• 37:06 — Discussion of Omar Khan’s new approach as GM
• 51:30 — Breakdown of Michael Pittman Jr. trade and contract
• 57:05 — What Rico Dowdle’s signing means for the offense
• 59:44 — Steelers’ draft plans and defensive secondary upgrades
• 63:14 — Joking about not making “12 randos” with draft picks
• 64:02 — Joe Hayden on Ramsey’s versatility on defense

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Tone & Style

The episode delivers high energy, off-the-cuff humor, transparent player perspectives, and deep fan analysis, balancing deep football IQ with the fun camaraderie and storytelling that sets "Club Shay Shay" apart.

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In summary:
This episode is a must-listen for Steelers fans and anyone interested in athlete crossovers between football and boxing, providing both practical insights and plenty of locker-room banter. Le’Veon Bell’s transparency about the social media fight game, the hosts’ candid takes on the Steelers’ evolving identity, and the live reactions to off-season moves make this a dynamic and engaging listen.

Transcript

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[Joe Hayden]

Debo I'm doing great my brother. I'm out here again. I'm traveling in the United States of America.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, you staying in the US this

[Joe Hayden]

time I'm in West Palm beach at the players summit meeting up with some of my good men having a good time. So yes, we're vibed up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Good, good, good. At least you decided to do the right thing and keep yourself right here in the States, brother. That was very smart of you. But are we good? Can I hear if we good? Hit me and let me know if we good. You know, I mean, excuse me.

[Joe Hayden]

I think we, I think we might have our good mans.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We got our good man. Look here man, we got a special guest today. Now joining us right now is three time Pro Bowler, two time all pro. Le've on bell the man that go whoop the brakes off somebody if he didn't Stop ducking. Hey. Hey, Juice. How you doing today, baby?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Man, hey, man, I appreciate y' all having me,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

brother.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Man, I appreciate y' all having me.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, hey, look here, man. It was some. It was some jibber jabber going back and forth. One of them Paul boy was popping off at the mouth. You said, hey, I'm here. It looked like an initial duck.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Get out the way.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Don't let him get to me. But then he made like he was coming back. I really think what happened is he realized as soon as he said that, you know what? This dude can actually fight. You know, he got some power, and he around my same size. It ain't gonna be some little dude that I'm fighting. You know what I'm saying? And it's gonna be pretty.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You're on my age.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He ain't too old, so, I mean, that's what I think. Why do you think he initially was. Was ducking you, bro?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Man, he initially dug. I knew. Let me tell you how I knew he's gonna duck. Let me tell you how I originally knew. I originally knew right away when he was naming in the interview, right? He was named all the NFL, man. I knocked out. I. I'll fight Tom Brady. I fight Gronkowski. I'll throttle Miles gear. I will throttle mouse gear, right? So he's. He's saying all this stuff, bro. I'm like, oh, bet. But he naming all these players. And Logan knows I fight. Like, we don't fought him. We both fought on misfits promotion before. Like, he knows that I fight, but he made sure lady on Bill's name wasn't said he was making sure he name all these other guys. Boom, boom. I'm like, no, no. You want to fight NFL players, Logan?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know, I'm the one who got training. I'm the one who actually do this. What's up? Let's do it in Pittsburgh. That's. That's what we. That's where Leon Bello, he made the name, right? Let's do it in Pittsburgh. Because the first NFL draft in, like, I don't know, like, 50, 60 years, perfect times like this, and all these NFL players gonna be there that you swear that you just so much tougher than bro. Come. Come knock out somebody or come beat somebody who actually do this in front of NFL people. He like, okay. Or the first thing. No, like, nah, bro, leave me on, bro. You ain't no draw, plus you can actually fight. It's like, hold up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, no, no. He ain't say, you could Actually fight.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no. I think that's what he said, the first one. That's what I saw. He said, you can fight. And I was like this.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't want to fight somebody that really got heads.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He's like, you not. That's what it was.

[Joe Hayden]

He's like, tom Brady not in the league. Fight, Leon.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Tom Brady not in the league. Grunk, not in the league. Ab not in the league. Y' all naming all these dudes who not in the league. So now you try to move the goal post the first time, trying to say, I won in the league or whatever, but you. But, Eric, I love that. The Internet all.

[Joe Hayden]

They don't let nothing slide past them.

[Le'Veon Bell]

No.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

At all.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Like, hold up, bro. You were just talking about Tom Brady, though. Like, why you talking about, like, Tom Brady here in the league? But he wanted to fight somebody. He wanted to fight somebody who not necessarily trained in that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yes.

[Le'Veon Bell]

And don't get me wrong. I feel like if football players come over to boxing and train, I think, like, football players like the best athletes in the world. You know what I'm saying? So I think the transition for football players would be a lot easier to box, but let's be realistic. It would definitely need training and. And a lot of practice in the gym, bro, because boxing is completely different. Cardio wise, cardiovascular wise.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Le'Veon Bell]

So Miles Garrett or somebody that come in there first time, they're gonna gas out in the first minute, two minutes, bro. You know what I'm saying? Versus somebody who actually know how to throw a punch, somebody who actually knows how to defend herself without exerting too much energy, you know what I'm saying? And Logan knows that, so he's trying to finagle a big name in a football, but beat him up, like, just beat up a football player. Like, how Jake do Jake want to beat up Mike Tyson? Mike Tyson old as hell. A lot of people like, man, this fight was rigged, bro. It's not rigged. It's only rigged in the fact that Mike Tyson is 60 years old, bro. So what can y' all expect Mike Tyson to do at 60? Imagine, bro. Imagine racing, bro. If I race Usain Bolt, if I got my son, I race. You saying boat when he's 60. Whoa. Oh, yeah. I beat the fastest man in the world, though. Yeah, bro. You say both 60, though, but I can beat him in a race. Like, yo, come on, man, let's be real. Let's be real. So you sitting there saying, hey, Logan, like, man, I'm an athlete. This and third, we'll get in the ring with an athlete. Then getting a ring with an athlete that actually does this, right? You know what I'm saying? Don't try to call out somebody who don't do it. I feel like. And then he said, bro, y' all know what the word throttle means? Because I had to, like, look it up. I literally had. Y' all know what throttle means, man. Bro, he's still full of. He said he will basically choke out Miles Garrett, bro. I would literally pay for that. Hold up. Like, you go to room with Miles Garrett, I guarantee you choking him out. I don't give a. But he tried to change it. Listen to the interview. He tried like, oh, boxing match. Boxing match. He tried to change it. Like, no, you said thr. Throttle you a throttle Miles Gary, bro. You know what Miles Gary would do when you in the room y' all try to wrestle with. She gonna you up, bro. But then he tried to change it. He tried to change it to a boxing match. So soon, he changed to a boxing match. No, no, I'm not letting that slide. Okay, if you want to box, then box me, right?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So this is what I wanted. It was said that at some point that y' all was actually talking. Was there talks going on that it was an actual chance that it was gonna be a fight until he, you know, he had his boss call and be like, hey, get me out of this, so I'll get my ass whooped.

[Le'Veon Bell]

So we doing the back and forth on the Internet, like, people kind of seeing the back and forth, but he sends the dm. He sends the dm, like, send me the email for the contract, bro. The moment I see the dm, it was like an hour later. The moment I see the dm, send my email, like, oh, yeah, bet.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Send it.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Boom. No response. Once I said, once he said it, no response. I was gonna give him 24 hours before I start calling him out again. Don't give him 24 hours. Like, bro, I ain't got no contract in the 24 hours. I got no contract. But I wait. I was like, you know what? It's a weekend. It's. It's Sunday. I'm gonna get into Monday, get him to Monday. Before Monday come. Oh, now he got a mysterious phone call. First of all, you never drew up the contract either. Y' all know the. When he got the phone call from the wwe, Chris, whoever Chris is from wwe, right? He got the phone call. He like, man, I can't fight. He's like, man, I had to Fight drawn up. He like showing the camera, but he don't show the camera. He's like, so he had a contract drawn up, but he never shows it. I'm like, bro, you ain't had no contract. You full of. You scared the whole time. He already do. He's gonna find a way to duck it. So he has somebody call in. Hey, look, no matter what, tell me nothing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I can't have. I can't have it. I can't go over there and have this man put his hands on me.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Bro. It went from bro, let's fight to okay, let's spar. To like, okay, let's spar. You gotta bet a million dollars. I'm gonna tell you what happened.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He didn't think.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He either thought I was gonna say no.

[Joe Hayden]

He didn't think you had to do.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Or he ain't think I had it as one of the two. He thought I was gonna say no, or he thought I could. Better put, I wasn't gonna be able to put the money up when I. When he. Million dollars. Bet.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Bet it.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'll be there. Just understand. No judges, though.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, man, I'm trying to tell you right now, this boy gonna deny all this, man. You're gonna have to ask you guys to have some backup on that to prove that that's what happened. Bro, he gonna try and deny all this.

[Le'Veon Bell]

What? Deny what? He can't deny it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You got some receipts. I know you got the receipts.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, for sure. Like, everything. I got hella receipts. Hella receipt. Oh, bro, I'm not about to let you off the hook. I'm about to stay in his head the whole time. Bro, you have to say something, bro. Because, like, bro, you can't just go silent after like, oh, yeah, my boss is called, and everybody know you're full of. Bro, you full. You fake the phone call, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, they just happen to be recording. Hey, they ain't gonna let me. Hey, hey. Record me on this because I can't. Hey, listen. What?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Who?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I can't. I'm too valuable. What?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Huh? Oh, I want to do it. No.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Trash. Trash.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He said the craziest questions. I just happen to be live. They called me while I'm live, man. Look, man, I see you talking about fighting, sparring, leave you on. But basically. Hold up. Basically trying to say is they said you can't go work out because that's all we doing. We sparring. He's not even.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's What I'm saying low and low. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me because I'm like, I understand a regular. A real, real fight. It's a spawn match. Can he not go spa. Like. Like, is this rules where you can't go do nothing? I Like, I see him falls all the time. You can practice.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You can't practice.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't practice on Bell. Because he thinks I don't know.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, you know why?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Because.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know why? Because they don't want him to slip and fall and hurt himself, bro. He posted a video with Bradley Martin, bro. Them doing wrestling and throwing each other off the wall. And I posted it. But I'm posting all this, bro. If y'. All. Everybody's watching, bro. Go to my Twitter.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I got.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'm posting everything. Posting all his full. Letting y' all know about. It's just clearly a duck. And he lying full of ain't. The WWE ain't called, but they don't care about him fighting. Why they care about Brock Lesnar fighting in ufc? Why they care about him?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They said Lesnar could win. They said, you can't. You can't win this.

[Le'Veon Bell]

They let Logan. They let Logan Paul fight Dylan Dennis. Logan Paul fought Dylan Dennis Wise with wwe. Logan could fight Dylan Dennis, but Logan can't fight NFL player slash Leon Bell. Not even fight. You catch sparring. You came to practice with them. You came to practice.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So he shouldn't be able to do none of that. I don't think that's heavy wrestling. That's outside of wwe. No sparring. I don't even know if he should be able to lift weights over his head if that's the case.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He can't. He might. He might slip him. He might slip in.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Wow.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You get what I'm trying to say?

[Joe Hayden]

You're basically saying you can't. He can't do nothing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I wonder who he.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Besides,

[Joe Hayden]

it's Chris.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Find out who Chris is in the wwe. If he got any. If he got any pool, we can figure that out. He said.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He said. He said the boss is called bro. Is that triple?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He didn't even give a name.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He said, the boss is called. I'm like, who? I'm like Triple H thing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, the boss was calling.

[Joe Hayden]

Triple H is the boss. It must have been Triple H. It had to be Triple H from the phone.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Why wouldn't I say Triple H?

[Le'Veon Bell]

But Triple H name ain't Trish.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Amen.

[Le'Veon Bell]

So it's like, what you mean, bro?

[Podcast Narrator]

Who.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Who's calling you fam.

[Joe Hayden]

We gotta find out one out. I don't know that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

His homeboy Chris said, hey, man, get me up out of this, man. Say you say you WWE exact Chris

[Le'Veon Bell]

make Chris full of, too, bro. Hey, but Chris. Hey, Chris, a real whatever you need. We. We gonna keep you out of this ring from this dude, man. Whatever you need, man. I know you want to get in there with somebody old or somebody that can't really train or. But we're gonna leave you out of this one, man. We're gonna try to. Just so we can keep you in great, great faces. Like, ain't like you ducked. We're gonna just make it seem like you can't do it. No, no, no, no. We see right through that. We know you're an actor. We know you're an actor. That's why you do YouTube. That's why you do wrestling, because you're a good actor. I just want to say this skit was very, very, very terrible. It was a terrible skit. Like, the acting was terrible. You feel me? Trash acting. I want my money back from this movie. Like, straight up. I need a refund. I need a refund, actually. Logan owe me a million dollars, bro. You made the bet, bro. Then you gonna make the bet.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Then you go back out by default.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Logan been running around. Oh, man. Floyd Mayweather owe me a million dollars. He owe me a million and a half dollars for my fight. No, no, Logan, you owe me a million dollars now. Logan, you owe me a million dollars. If Foy owe you,

[Joe Hayden]

tell Floyd send me that 1.5 this way.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah. Straight up. Yeah, I'm getting the 1.5 before, like, straight up. You come get it from me, Logan.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Now that's how we do.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I like that. I like that.

[Le'Veon Bell]

That's how we do.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I like that.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Run me my bread.

[Le'Veon Bell]

That's how we do that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Come get it in blood. How you want it, man?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah. Logan. Paul want to duck mouth. Give me Jake. Paul. Give me Chris.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Paul.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Give me Paul. Give me Paul. Crew. Named Paul. Anybody named Paul.

[Joe Hayden]

Anybody the initials pg.

[Le'Veon Bell]

But I don't care if it's Sean Paul, bro. Paul George, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Send him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Send them, bro. Hey, send them my way. I'm tired.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna tell you this. I. I love the energy. I love the energy because I know it's legit. You're not playing. Cause you be in the ring. Like, when you talking about trying to fight football, dudes. I'm like this, okay? Y' all don't play football. Y' all don't play boxing. Niggas know how to play.

[Le'Veon Bell]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We.

[Podcast Narrator]

I don't know how we made it. So a lot of my life was, like, built out of, like, survival to get to the next place. Like, my drive, my, like, tunnel vision of, like, I gotta be better, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of, like, I want to make a better life for us. If you KNEW Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking, career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if youf Knew Better with Amber grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Podcast Narrator]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We didn't worry about what was going on outside. It was like stepping in another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Inside Charlie's Place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it.

[Joe Hayden]

You saw the kkk.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, they were dressed up in their uniform.

[Joe Hayden]

The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Joe Hayden]

Football strong and ever walk into that ring you might get beat up because you don't know how to defend yourself. You don't really know how to throw punches. Sitting in there trying to be in at three minutes long just throwing energy. Your your endurance.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm holding them all. I'm loving you.

[Joe Hayden]

225, brother. You've been in the ring. So yes, I'm putting Le'Veon in that joint I'm liking lady. Anybody wants some smoke? Anybody? Name that starts with an L or G? Logan, Paul, Chris, Paul, Jake, Paul from State Farm. Anybody can get it. Hey, that's all I know.

[Le'Veon Bell]

It could be clip Paul. I don't Give a clip. Paul. Paul Crew. But it could be tomato. You got Paul in there. Send them, bro. Like, send them.

[Joe Hayden]

No disrespect. Y' all out here playing. I seen you in the ring. I seen what you did to one of our goats. And almost tore my whole, man. Acl, pcl, mcl. When Adrian, when AP Went, yeah, he had.

[Le'Veon Bell]

That was real time.

[Joe Hayden]

That was real time. You did that.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That was my two. That was for my guy. That was for my guy, Will Gay, to be honest with you, man. AP did something vicious to Will Gay over there, man.

[Joe Hayden]

He stepped on that, man.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Did the gorilla yell on him? Got up and do it. I was so mad, dog, I ain't know what to do. So we get back. We get back into, like, Monday, we watching the film, and we got a. We got a trophy sitting in the trophy room, man, and it's getting ran over. He getting, like, his foot put on the chest and all that. And I'm like, hey, gay, man. They took. They took a snapshot and made this.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Sure did. You sure did, AP the 80 did, my man. Dirty 80 did him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, AP did. So, yeah, you know how to slide up on ap, bro. And Logan, bro, that. You know what? That's not even the fight. That scared Logan. My fight, two fights after that is the one scared Logan. So it was a fight. I'm fighting this dude named JMX on misfits, right? I'm fighting them. The winner of that fight got Logan Paul. Because look like, yeah, I want to fight the winner of that. I want to fight the winner. This is, like, two years ago. This is in 2024, 2023, three years ago, right? I fight the dude jmx. I beating, like, convincingly, like, bad. Like J. Max barely survived. I'm supposed to fight Logan next. Logan see that fight, he instantly, like, ducks. But at this time, I'm not really calling him out on crazy, you know what I'm saying? Because.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So he been for about three years now.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what. That's.

[Le'Veon Bell]

That's what I heard, bro. When he was saying. When he was talking about all them names, violent football players, he was trying his hardest not to say Le'Veon Bell. They said Antonio Brown. That instantly starts saying somebody instantly about. Because they all. They started getting close. Like, that name

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

don't say the Bees now. Black and gold. Getting close.

[Joe Hayden]

Getting closer than Bees.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Oh, Logan Paul was like, bro, just don't say the word Leon. Don't say Leon Bell. Anybody but them. Or as soon as people say Leon Bell, then You start acting like he entertaining it. Oh, yeah, you sent over, bro. He thought I was gonna say no to the 10 ounce head. 10 ounce gloves and no hair. He thought I was gonna say no to that because we sparring, bro. I'm put cool if you want to do that. Yeah, I'm not gonna be getting it. You're the one gonna be getting hit. Like, yeah, so he thought I was gonna say no to that. But he don't understand, bro, I'm so confident in my ability in. In this boxing. And plus, but athletically speaking, bro, I didn't play with the best athletes in the world, bro. So, like, you know, quickness wise or reaction wise, bro, but I'm telling you, I'm getting. Getting here with all these boxers and, bro, it's not even close, bro. Like, because football is like, bro, deba, me and you, we meeting right here. We gonna keep going until somebody stop. Like, till somebody stops. Like, everybody's mindset. Not like that in boxing. Somebody get punched, oh, you know who you got. You know how you got

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

no padding in it?

[Joe Hayden]

Check his clubs.

[Le'Veon Bell]

The same. The same way with football, you know, y' all be seeing. People would be like, oh, yeah, he ain't really doing that.

[Joe Hayden]

Like, turn this down.

[Le'Veon Bell]

It's just. It's the same with boxing, bro. It's the same. It's just like, once you get the skill up, you start seeing like, oh, yeah, why hit this? Doing his body. He didn't like that. He running. He running the whole time. You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

And that comes with experience and just being in there, you know what I'm saying? Logan knows that. Literally, he knows that. So he'll. He'll, like, like, call somebody out who don't really have the understanding that, like, it's so much more than physicality in boxing, you know?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Let me. Let me ask you before we get you out, I know you got a time limit on you. Hey, so Clarissa Shield said that she could. She. She said she keeps the perfect person.

[Joe Hayden]

I wanted to ask.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Thank you. So with that being said, before I show a video, I'm a prefix it with what she said, I guess on. On Nightcap that he didn't have any patent in his gloves. But this is a guy that Romeo, he. He whooped on, and she got put, put, put down. Show the video. We got the video, please.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, I know what clip y' all talking about. You're playing real quick. We can talk through it. Let me see it. Oh, y' all playing it?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, see oh, did you see that, Le'Veon?

[Le'Veon Bell]

So, look, I love courses. I. I legitimately think she's the best female fighter.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No question.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Right? Yes. But she tripping. She tripping, bro. Rolly, I understand he. I know what she's saying. Everything she says the reason why I love her. Because she really believes it.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Le'Veon Bell]

She really believes it. Did. And it's like, I see what she's saying. It makes sense. In her head, it makes sense, but I don't think she's not. She's trying to realize, right? Oh, when he hit you, that gonna feel different than when any other woman hit you like that. She gonna feel different. With no head girl in an actual fight, that gonna feel different. You know what I'm saying? And I'm. I love Crystal Shield, so, you know, she might see this and she might think I'm talking about, but I'm not at all. Like. I feel like she's one of the greatest fighters in our generation. Female fighters for sure. But, yeah, especially Rolly. Like, Rolly, bro, He unorthodox, but he's like that. Like, Rolly like that, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I looked at some of his stuff. I'm like, he putting. He putting cats down. Left, right, left, right.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'm like, oh, Rolly can punch, bro. Like, people getting confused because he went against Tank, and Tank is just next level.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, Tank.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Tank is levels, right?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Like, Tank is just next level. So Tank is like, okay, I'm gonna take aggressive. I'm taking advantage of your aggressiveness. I'm gonna step back, let you run in uppercut. I'm out of here. He ran right to the ropes, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. If Shields got that reaction, Boom, I would have knocked him out. And it's because rolling, if you don't knock him out. I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming. The entire time. You got to knock him out because.

[Joe Hayden]

Did you see the girl?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Did you see the girl?

[Joe Hayden]

She just fought Labion, that the. The big girl, and they was in there throwing punches. So I'm. I'm respecting shield, too. I think she's the best female fighter out there. But I'm like, when that other girl was giving her them punches and she's eating them, I'm like, how many of them big boy joints are you gonna eat?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You ain't getting out of the way or nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, she like. She's not eating those. She's not eating those.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. It's just a different strength. It's like. That's just why you don't. That's the only.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah. She's not. She's not really understanding because she's just thinking, like, female fighting. Okay. I fight at 185. If I'm fighting a girl. If I find a girl at 147, what I would do to her, she's not realizing, bro. Bro, Rolly has a different. He's a man. He has a different energy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm talking just actual, like, bias.

[Joe Hayden]

Professional. He's a professional

[Le'Veon Bell]

to the body, bro. You know, if I punch you to your stomach, how that's gonna hurt her, bro? If only punch her to the stomach. Not even knocking her out. Just punch her to the stomach. You know how hard that's gonna. Bro, she's gonna do that and not want to fight no more. Like, she's not gonna. You ever. Yes. That's what it feels like. It's like. But you still gotta sit there and fight. Like, bro. She's not about to keep taking that.

[Joe Hayden]

Nope.

[Le'Veon Bell]

But I love personal shields, though. I think she's the.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, no question. You start, you know, trying to go into, like, fighting, like, and doing it at a high level. That's. I don't. I don't think that's smart, man.

[Le'Veon Bell]

She said Roy is unorthodox. He is. But he's still like that.

[Podcast Narrator]

Yes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He's just unorthodox. He's orthodox. You know what I'm saying? But he's still. Bro. Broly got skill, bro. People say he don't got skill. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. He just not as skilled as Gervonta. It's still levels. Don't get me wrong. Javante been just, you know. But then it's like football.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know what I'm saying? You got corners. First team on pro. You got Joe, you got James Harrison, mvp. You know what I'm saying? But you got people who are still NFL. But I'm just. Maybe not that level. But you're still. You're still in the league. It's like, yeah, you still.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That's what I'd be telling people. Like the same thing when they be talking about basketball. Oh, man, he trash. I said, man, you couldn't do nothing with that dude. He was sitting on the bench sometimes. You couldn't do nothing with him. The dude that ain't dressed on the field for us that's sitting there undressed, you couldn't do nothing with him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

No, you want no smoke, bro, at all. Because look, Logan, Paul talking about some man. Yeah, I'll throttle, I'll knock out any fighter. But imagine him trying to run a route on Jeff. I will bet my bottom dollar he doesn't catch one ball. Yes, like you won't catch one ball. This must have athletes is like different. It's like, okay, if you don't really know how to run a route, Logan, you're not gonna catch a path with Joe Hayden. It's the same with boxing. It's like, bro, he's hitting your car. And fighter like, no, bro, fight somebody about train.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Like, yeah, weird for sure, man.

[Le'Veon Bell]

But both of them, both of them be doing weird stuff like that. They make it. That's why the Jake, Paul and, and Tyson, Mike Tyson. Everybody was saying it's rigged. It's not rigged in the fact that Mike Tyson, I think Mike Tyson really in there trying. He just old. He old.

[Joe Hayden]

I knew I wasn't tripping.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I feel like Mike, let him, let him, let him, let him, let him, him let him live a little bit, man. I feel like from what I saw,

[Joe Hayden]

bro, listen, I'm telling you, the fatigue make chumps out of everybody.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'm tell everybody.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm telling you, lift up your arms.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You look weak, bro. People don't felt it. Like, people ain't filthy. Like, if you ain't entering felt it before, you ain't gonna know. But Mike Tyson, bro, I'm like, he's trying, but I promise you, he is trying. The just 60. He thinks he's 21. He think he's still going there and do that. Oh, yeah. B fight. Jake Palmer going to knock him out. But realistically, bro, them knees, the explosion might get what made him special. He ain't got that.

[Joe Hayden]

He gonna give you them 30 seconds. That little, that little 15 second clip on tick tock where he coming that joint.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, that's what I'm doing.

[Le'Veon Bell]

He's done. That's all he got.

[Joe Hayden]

Y' all better. There's no more camera. That man, Mike, he did it for 15 seconds and now he's like this. He's gone. He's getting H2O. He's getting oxygen.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I forgot all about those.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I wish I was there.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm like this. Oh, everybody, oh, you see Mike moving all fast. I'm like, yeah, he got 10 more seconds. It's a rap.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I wish I was, bro. I wish I was there when they were doing the vocal I don't know how much time he took the rest before he came back.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Bro.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Bro, that got me. That's all he had.

[Joe Hayden]

He was exhausted. Lay me on.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You can't. Like. Damn, man. Y' all killing me, man.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Mike Tyson was really in that. I'm like, bro, that for sure. I was watching the clip saying, the same bro went out there round one. Was out there for a minute, man got tired. I'm like, man, let me tell you, Jake ain't as good as everybody think he is. Because Jake was. It was after the fight, he getting the interview. He like, yeah, I seen Mike Tyson.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Who.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Who? He wasn't who he was, you know, So I was just trying to let him off easy. No, you wasn't. He was trying to knock my. You think so, bro? Go watch.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I thought.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I thought.

[Joe Hayden]

I thought he let him live a little bit.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I thought.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, no, no.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know what? I'm Pull up on y'.

[Podcast Narrator]

All.

[Le'Veon Bell]

We can watch it together. I'm gonna show you, bro. He was trying to sleep, Mike. He was trying. He was trying to sleep, Mike. Bro. Okay, okay.

[Joe Hayden]

I need to watch it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Just.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Jake. Jake ain't as good as everybody thinks. He should have. He should have stopped. Mike. Mike is 60. He should not be in there and be at the last eight rounds with you. But he wasn't good enough to stop, Mike. That's all it was. Like, he wasn't good enough to stop. Okay, but he was trying, bro, watch Jake try to. Bro Mike Tyson. 60. He was ducking some.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I seen something. I was like, oh, Lord.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Okay, I see you welling up on that. I'm. At least get out of that. Like, God damn. You know what I'm saying?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, okay.

[Le'Veon Bell]

But, like, no, Jake was trying to sleep, Mike. Bro, that guy lost in the wash. Like, oh, man. Like, Jake was trying to let him eat. No, no, no, no. Jake was trying to sleep, Mike. Everybody got Netflix. Go back and watch.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm gonna go back and watch.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'm trying to go back and watch it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, bro. Hey, let me ask you real quick before we get you out of here. I know you gotta. You gotta hit the gym. What do you think of the. The McCarthy hired for the Steelers? Hello?

[Joe Hayden]

That boy WI Fi went out.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Did Wi Fi go out?

[Le'Veon Bell]

He said what? Hello? All right, bro. It is what it is, bro. I. I ain't gonna say. I'm not gonna say I'm ecstatic about it, but it's like, it's cool. It's cool. It's like, it's cool.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, Listen, I. I'll give you. I'll give you. I give you how I feel. I'll give you how I feel. I'm good with it now. I'm on it. I'm on it now because I believe that he. With it. I'm good with. Not because I believe that he. He's there because he truly cares. He understands what it is to be a Steeler, a true Steeler. Like, what it is, what that legacy is, what it is all about. It's about Lombardi's. It's about winning championships. And that's the first thing that he was talking about. And I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Like, when he first started crying, I text Joe, I said, man, this crying, what the. You know?

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know, he was.

[Joe Hayden]

He was man from the city. Look, lady, on laughing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He got a passion. And. And what I'm seeing right now, especially with Omar being able to. Omar, like, he should be able to gm. You see what he's doing. This has been the most active free agency that you have seen ever since this. Since 2000, whatever, since the Steelers have started. And that is a big part of Omar and his vision and what he sees and how he approaches. Normally, we go and we.

[Le'Veon Bell]

We.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We. We keep the guys that we have and we sign them under contract, but we can't do it because we done missed over the last 10 years on our first and second rounders, and we've only been able to keep two. With that being the case, he done got a position. He's now able. It's a collective that they use where you can now go and say, you know what? We got this, we got that. Let's get this, let's get that. And right now, dude, I'm loving what he is doing. I'm telling people. I've been telling people, give this man three years and judge him from this point forward, and I promise you, you're going to see Omar Khan GM the way that I knew he could from the very beginning.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I think Omar is definitely the problem. And to be honest, bro, I didn't think Tomlin was the problem. But I feel like them switching. Look, just culture change, maybe it's needed, maybe it's not. I just feel like if you going from Tomlin to Mike McCarthy is them their tomato, tomatoes, like, kind of same,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I would understand that as far as the coach goes. But this is the thing you don't understand. As far as the inside, I've been said the same thing. The shift of power that Tomlin had was enormous. In his last 10 to 12 years.

[Le'Veon Bell]

What do you mean?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

As far as who you drafted, where you drafted them. Okay, who you kept, who you let go.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Okay, so. And the last 12 years, what's that gotta do with Thomas and Mike McCarthy?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

So he's saying the coach is the same true statement, but now you're allowing your GM to GM to get players that everybody as collective feels can do it. And not a single person saying, yeah, I know they saying he a three, but I think he's a one, so let's get him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Hold on. So who you said was doing that time?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We're saying Tomlin had the last call on what it was that he wanted to do. As far as.

[Le'Veon Bell]

So he had like the last final.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Oh, yes, he could overrule. I mean, you could have a room, whatever. He was final word. I know for sure. All you gotta do is look at anywhere from about. I would say it started to switch around that 14 to 16 range, and from there it was just bloom.

[Le'Veon Bell]

See, look, I will say the culture change was needed. I do the Mike McCarthy one. You kind of talking me into it a little bit. I'm starting to see different side of it. Originally, I didn't like.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Now look at the coaches he brought in. Look at the coaches McCarthy has brought in.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I'm interested to see how it goes. You know what I'm saying? I just don't want. We go out here and then we go nine and eight and then it's like, okay, what the.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I believe this. I believe that we're going to have a subpar year if we don't.

[Le'Veon Bell]

If.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

If things don't pan out at the quarterback position. Once we're able to correct that.

[Le'Veon Bell]

We can't correct that right now.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I think that we can't.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, I don't think, Tom. I don't think it was necessary time to use the quarterback. I think we need a quarterback, a solidified quarterback. And I think once we got that, I think everything kind of falls into place. But think about it. The personal touching the ball. Every single player is the quarterback, bro. This ain't working like. Then of course we'll look. You know what I'm saying? Unorthodox. Me look terrible on offense. We got some good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We also got to be able to talk on defense. You telling me that defense all of a sudden couldn't stop nobody? Or did they change the dynamics of what that defense was doing?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Y' all both play defense. Y' all know when I. When I'm on offense, I consist with defense getting tired so we out there all the time. But I know defensive players is getting tired.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You know, tell them how these corners was doing, man, week in and week out. The basics. They weren't being taught the basics, bro.

[Le'Veon Bell]

But is that it has to be

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

because everybody's doing it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

What do you mean, the basics, bro?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Stop.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Joe, was it like that when you was there?

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, no.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I'm a Pro bowl all time, a Hall of Fame corner. Joe knew what to do.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, I know.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Tell me this. Were you talking anything and develop? I mean, to a greater extent that you could say, yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Podcast Narrator]

It's the new me and it's the old them. Everybody's on their journey, and your journey is different to theirs. This Woman's History Month, the podcast if you Knew Better with Amber Grimes spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power. I think coming out of where I came from, I'm from the Bronx. I think I grew up really poor. I didn't know that then because I very much use my creativity to romanticize life, and I'm like, my mom did a really good job of, like, you step back and you're like, whoa.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We.

[Podcast Narrator]

I don't know how we made it. So a lot of my life was, like, built out of, like, survival to get to the next place, like, my drive, my, like, tunnel vision of, like, I gotta be better, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of, like, I want to make a better life for us. If youf Knew Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking, career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if youf Knew Better with Amber grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Podcast Narrator]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own. We didn't worry about what went on outside.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it.

[Joe Hayden]

You saw the kkk.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

They was dressed up in their uniform,

[Joe Hayden]

the KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Charlie was an example. They had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's Place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Boys and Girls Podcast Host]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They developed me greater than I was. So much greater than I was developed.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Joe was already first team. I knew they all pro like development just all right. When you was with Tom did he give you anything to help you? He.

[Joe Hayden]

Coach Tomlin. That's the one thing I tell you he did for me. I knew when I was going into the games, he never. He didn't really teach me too much or nothing because I'm already. I'm eight in the league. I know a lot of shit. But I'm saying the way that we studied tape and the way that he prepared me to go into the game, I knew what they was about to do.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Let's repeat.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Let's repeat.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

How you felt about your position, Coach then Joe, the position on that.

[Joe Hayden]

When I had Coach Scrap there the first. Well, when I had Cornell Lake. Coach Lake, amazing coach. When Lake got up out of there, he left with his son. Then we had my man Scrap that came in there.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Not good.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I love Lake. Coach Lake. Coach Lake.

[Joe Hayden]

That man. The next coach we had scrapped. He got out of there after the year. He wasn't that good. And that's where it was just. We needed our coaching staff to be on the same page. They were kind of just talking a little different languages, you know what I'm saying? It's not a little language.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And, you know, A is a and A should be a. No matter if your db, no matter what I record Coach is telling you, if that's what the. That's what it should be. And then when you go in there and you try and change certain parts of a defense, you can't change certain parts of a defense to cover up one weakness because you create two or three other ones. It's the same thing. If y' all do it. It on offense to say, hey, we go pick up this dude with so and so, and then they bring something else. You're creating more weaknesses. When you got to say, you know what if this happens, chalk it up to the defense or the quarterback got to see it and get it out.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

A lot. It was a lot of that going on on defense with the switching of.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I don't. Yeah. I don't really fully understand the whole schematics on defense. Y' all understand that way better than me. So, like, I just be watching, like, what the. Like, why. Why open? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And I feel y' all and Coach Time was more defensive minded, so y' all know way more what's going on. So I could. I definitely hear y' all side of it. And hearing y' all saying, it's like, yeah, y' all tell me this.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

If he's defensive minded and all that is happening, what's going on?

[Le'Veon Bell]

And I feel you, I feel you. That's why I like, I, I, I, I agree. A culture change was needed. I'm just saying Mike McCarthy is like, was he the one? Because you know what I'm saying, That's

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

the only thing listen to put people in positions to enforce and teach yours. That's why when you get as a head of coach, as a head coach, you go and you create. You go ahead and you make and you, you get your, you get your staff together. A head coach should be as least hands on as possible because he's going to get the people he know can do the job so that he don't have to sit there and micromanage. When you want to micromanage, you don't go and create people that go and do what you do. You create people that sit where you're at and then when the time come, they move laterally to another spot and never go and make more of you because they don't know what it is you do because all you do is manage them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I get exactly what you're saying. I get exactly what you're saying. I follow that. That's why I look, I might against the culture change, bro. We just go. I'm eager to see how it goes.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Because my McCarthy officer minded. He's officer minded. So it's like the problem with the defense and we gonna see like, you gotta get somebody in there that knows what's going on and yeah, I know what's going on. That's there all it is. And don't it come down. But we need some like to step up though.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yeah, that's what it is. It's like we need them captains and leaders over there to step up too. You know what I'm saying? I feel like from the beginning of the season, it was always like, oh, it's Cam. Go play. Is he not gonna play? Is TJ gonna play? Is he not? I feel like it's a whole bunch of up and downs. Like that should start from the beginning of the season. Like, but it started now with OTAs and training camp or Mini can't come up. We're gonna see, bro. I'm excited though. Like, I'm gonna see what my McCarthy got, bro. I'm, I wasn't opposed or I wasn't forward at first, but now I'm not opposed hearing y' all out. We're going to see how it goes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Okay.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I love, I love hearing perspectives. You know, you gotta Give him a

[Joe Hayden]

little bit of time, you know what I'm saying? And like you said,

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

we're gonna have to get you back on later this year once.

[Joe Hayden]

Once we got to lady or not

[Le'Veon Bell]

facts we gotta have to make it happen.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yeah, for sure, man. Hey, man, I'll let you get up out of here. I know you got to hit the gym, man. Appreciate you coming on, man. Appreciate you.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I appreciate y'.

[Joe Hayden]

All.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Ladies and gentlemen, chat. Give it up for him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Hey, much love. Hey, y' all keep doing your thing, bro. Y' all keep saying, I've been watching y'. All. Y' all be doing y' all thing, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Appreciate it.

[Le'Veon Bell]

I. I love yalls content, bro.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on, brother.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You're gonna tap in with love, bro. I'll see y' all about go hit this gym, bro. Get prepared. Yeah, yeah. Put.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Go ahead. Get ready. Ready for that boy and put them all over his head.

[Joe Hayden]

All right?

[Le'Veon Bell]

You already know.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

All right, Joe, man. Yes. I told you he was ducking.

[Joe Hayden]

W's in the chat for Le'Veon Bell, man. That's a good man right there.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No question, brother.

[Joe Hayden]

That's a good man.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Look here, man, as I said, the Steelers making moves, man. Yes, GM Omar Khan is GMing right now, man. He's being able to do what it is that they put him in position to do. And this has been the most active free agency that that the Steelers have had in I don't know how long, you know, like the history of. Of the Distillers. Probably since. Probably since the 70s, let you know that, man. Cook, listen, I ain't even think that we was gonna get Michael Pittman Jr. Dude, we ended up getting Pittman Jr. After they went on ahead and they said they was gonna retain Alec Pierce. They gave that man a four year, 116 million deal. And then shortly after, they said, hey, listen, the big thing, Joe, that I said about Pittman is I was like, yo, I like it, but I don't like the number. I said, I don't like the number of the 29 million. I said, and he only got one year left on the deal. So if we get him, we got to make sure we don't give up much. And then we got to get him with a deal and what we do.

[Joe Hayden]

Nine sounds good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Late. We get him with a late pick, Joe. A late. It's a swap at that, Joe. It's a swap at that. And then we sign him to a three year 59. So now the 29 ain't 29, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

No, it's not.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It's less catch anything around it. I see you, Omar. You like that, Joe? Do you like that you pair him with dk? Joe, where we at in the AFC north as far as a receiving core? Where we at with that duo, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, in the North. In the north for two. In the Northwood too. In the. In the north with two. Cause after Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, obviously Raven's not messing with us with they receivers. And you know, my good old Browns right now, you know, we don't have. We have Judy. But right now The Steelers with DK Metcalf and Michael Pittman Jr. Are looking like the second best in the north, you know, behind chasing Higgins. But we got. Now we got dk. And coming off of last year too, DK being two years ago dk, I would have been feeling a little bit better last year.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

He gonna be all right. He gonna be all right.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I believe in dk. I know that he wants to go out and go crazy again and, and with the suspension and all that stuff. He's a baller and that's what he does is go hoop. So if he goes out there and be the DK Metcalf that I know and love that we signed for the 30 mil a year that we're expecting to get beautiful. Michael Pittman Jr. I loved him because big receiver and he's a non. You don't hear nothing about him. He's quiet. He not saying nothing. He's work pale. He's boots. He's coming to work every day to grind and get the job done. So when you have him on your team, a solid number two. And I heard about my man Pat McAfee, he was pissed that the cost lost him because you know, he was pissed. Dropping the big F bombs.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, hey. I ain't want to say the F. I want to say God, he went

[Joe Hayden]

hard because I'm like, he like this that we want to get. He wanted to give him the respect that people were signing out, dudes on the team being late to meet and some dudes just weren't doing. He's like pimping. You were never that guy guy. You're going to be there on time, you're going to work hard, dive through a wall for a catch, anytime, no matter what. So we need those dudes, we need those hard working kind of guys are going to bring that. To bring that, that demeanor to the offensive side of the ball too. So I'm loving that vibes. I'm loving that he know receiver was a position that we needed. We're talking about it. Everybody keeps saying, oh no, what about the draft?

[Le'Veon Bell]

Are you over?

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no. So now we're making moves and doing things that we need to do. So guess what?

[Le'Veon Bell]

What?

[Podcast Narrator]

Thank you.

[Joe Hayden]

Clap it up for Omar, you know what I'm saying? If we wouldn't have got nobody and everybody's looking crazy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No, hey, we can clap it up. We can clap it up for show. Listen, got a big body and catch anything around him. He attacks the ball. He is a good route runner. And guess what? He also is a blocker too. Now with that being said, we still got the draft. We could still go get a burner. Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Still got so much because all them

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

boys was burners, Joe. We still got that clap it up chat. Come on now, let me listen. Stop playing. He wasn't, he ain't. He wasn't done, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

It's not, it's not, it's not. He's not done.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Yo, he ain't done. He ain't done. Rico. We went on here and said, hey man, we go get, we go. This, this, I like this one. I, I was trying, I was trying to, I was kind of, I was trying to think about this one. I wasn't understanding this one. But I, I sat back. Rico Dowley or what is it Dottle? Okay, so we went and got him signed a 2 year 12.5 million. Okay, now Joe, I, like I said, I didn't understand it at first. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, yo, like, why are we signing this dude? I'm like, okay, we lost game well, so yeah, yeah, we need to pick something up. But I'm like at that, you know, so I'm looking and I'm thinking and you know what I said, okay, I see now he's familiar with McCarthy's offense. He was with him over there in Dallas in 24. Okay? This man got two back to back thousand yard seasons. You know what I'm like, yo, what does this mean for Jalen Warren though, Joe? Like what do you think it means for Jalen Warren?

[Joe Hayden]

I don't think it mean nothing.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

I don't think it mean nothing, Joe. This is what I think it means.

[Joe Hayden]

We need two.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Bingo. Listen, listen, I think it means this. The Steelers are saying, here's my signal. We are going to run the ball. We're getting back to Steeler football. We're going to pound the ball. We got two Guys that are down here, runners, they are very similar in running styles. One is almost 6 foot 220. The other one, a little bowling ball about 5, 9, 2, 15. And he getting it to him, bro. Mm.

[Le'Veon Bell]

We.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Mike. Mike McCarthy is saying, we're going to dedicate this. We're going to run the ball. We're going to be dedicated to running the ball. He went out and got two of them that do the same. So it ain't gonna be much of a difference when you switch them in and out. Literally.

[Joe Hayden]

I love splitting between two, making sure Warren don't get too beat up, Rico don't get too beat up. They gonna be fresh when they get in there. They're coming off running downhill. I love the way Jalen Warren hits the hole so hard. The same way Rico hits the hole when he was playing for Carolina. So us being able to get him for the $6 million a year. These running backs, my man. What did. What did. Kenneth Walker, he just got like 15 something a year. He got 15 million a year. No disrespect, but us at Rico, that's tot pill hard as he can for six. And that's. That's off. That's $8 million difference I'm liking. I'm not saying he's a Kenneth Walker, but I'm saying when you get an established running back that's 2,000 yards back to back and you know what kind of guy you're getting downhill, no bull. And you got Jaylen Warren, that's just. That's. That's.

[Le'Veon Bell]

That's ripe.

[Joe Hayden]

That's exactly what we need for the team. That energy that you got a blocking receiver, you got a crazy strong running back.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm loving the moves. They're early. And it's not crazy. Brad, you're not just over painting these dudes.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

No.

[Joe Hayden]

We got Rico. Rico could have made 8. Rico could have had 8 million. 8 million a year, but we went and got him for 6. You know what I'm saying? Pittman 29. Now let's go get him from the 19. Like what? These are great players at great deals that are coming to the team, trying to go win. They're happy that they got their bag. We're happy that we feel like we got over a little bit, but not over, but like we didn't have to overpay.

[Le'Veon Bell]

And we got balls.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They got a good deal.

[Joe Hayden]

Everybody's happy. Everybody's happy.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

You happy? I'm happy.

[Joe Hayden]

We happy, you know, so I'm rocking with it. It's still early, too. There's still the draft to come. We got so many picks. We got so many.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We ain't even done yet. We ain't even done.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying right now.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Right now.

[Joe Hayden]

It's early. We just cooking. We just cooking. I'm loving the way Omar's cooking right now. And. And they're making moves that may not be the most explosive, but they're steals, and they're good moves.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We just picked up the cornerback. Was it Jamel Dean? 3 deal. 3. 3 year deal after he was just in Tampa. They made that man take a $8.2 million pay cut last year. Okay, I'm looking at it. I'm like, nah, y' all made him take a pay cut. I had to look. I said, okay. Maybe because he was a little banged up, all that other stuff, but, bruh, this dude is six one fast grease Lightning fast. Joe, four three. Joe, four three. He. He's good, man. Coverage Joe. So even if you do maybe possibly get loose from, you're not about to get away from him. He's 4 3. Hey, Joe. Nephew, you got you a partner over there. You got your running mate, Cincinnati. Hey, we locking it, Don't.

[Joe Hayden]

We locking it.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Don't forget, we got Ramsey still over here, too.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, Joe. Listen, Joe Burrow. Listen, let me talk to you.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, see, we turned it back.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, it still ain't too late. We still got open arms over here. We still got open arms over here. I want you to remember that, okay? Hey, brother,

[Joe Hayden]

I hope that he knows we're dead serious, but I just hope we keep throwing it out there. He. I don't know. Just Joe Borough. If you really. If you can come to the Steelers for sure, that would be just the best thing ever. Then it's super bowl or bust. If we get Burrow, it's Super bowl

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

or bust, no question. Hey, listen, in the corner. Dean, we just hooked up. Hey, guess what? One touchdown allowed last year. That's it.

[Le'Veon Bell]

You know what?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We got two corners that only allow one touchdown.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. That's straps. That's straps. Put Dean opposite of our man, Young Peasy, they still have to worry out, figure out a way to get p. Peasy gonna get that bag.

[Podcast Narrator]

They gonna get it, man.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

They gonna get it to him.

[Le'Veon Bell]

They gotta get it to him, man. We.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

We getting. We getting good deals, man. We getting. We get everybody getting what they want. They happy with it, man. Listen, man, we getting good deals.

[Le'Veon Bell]

And.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

And what was that the year we Gave. We gave to Asante Samuel for year four, for one year. And on top of that, you know, we got Holcomb to a two year five. So right now we got every. I mean, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. We got every inside linebacker that we had in 20, 25 still under contract right now that we had from last year. So, I mean. And I think right now we can address. Again, like you said, we got the draft. We can address that inside backer that could do both hit the run and. And. And. And give me pass coverage too.

[Joe Hayden]

We gonna hit that. We gotta hit that backer. We gonna hit that line. We got backer o line, backer o line receiver. Even though we still got a receiver. But backer o line receiver. Get that, get that. We got 12.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

12, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

We got 12, man. Come on, man. Package them up, man. Make them something good. Make it something great.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Go get who you need.

[Joe Hayden]

Just don't get 12 randos.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

But, but, but one of those was the. I don't know if it was 214 and 216. One of those was the swap that we ended up doing with the coats for Pittman. We got a swap, so we still got 12. I think we might have swapped down to like a 224 or something like that, but right there, it ain't. You know what I'm saying? What are we talking about?

[Joe Hayden]

That's still good.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It's still good, bruh.

[Le'Veon Bell]

They did their thing right there.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie. The defense is coming apart, coming along. We got the one for four, Sante, you know what I'm saying? Chilling. And then we got another outside. I don't know if Sante plays slot, but if we got those three corners right there, Dean, we got.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Listen, don't forget now. He can. He can. Ramsey, he go safety or corner.

[Joe Hayden]

Ramsey doing the. Ramsey's doing everything. Ramsey Swiss army knife. Ramsey's nickel, Ramsey's corner, Ramsey's safety, Ramsey's. Whatever you need him to be. Gang size, you throw it up.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

That wasn't gang signs, man. I was going up every signal that I could in baseball to tell you to still go, not reach. He doing it all. Swiss army kn. Knife, throwing up autumn blades. 15, 20 blades in that thing.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, okay, okay, okay, okay. I wasn't hip. I wasn't hip.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Joe. Joe, we making moves over here. Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm excited, man. That diva. That's what I'm talking about, Joe.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Hey, the man cooking with. He cooking with grease, man. He cooking with beef tallow the good hey tallow.

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?

[Boys and Girls Podcast Host]

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[Podcast Narrator]

When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules.

[Le'Veon Bell]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Podcast Narrator]

Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero?

[James 'Debo' Harrison]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[James 'Debo' Harrison]

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[Le'Veon Bell]

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[Le'Veon Bell]

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[Joe Hayden]

It's not a destination. You have to work on it every day.

[Podcast Narrator]

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