Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Bears Moving to Indiana? Seahawks For Sale + Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Rumors

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe – Part 2

Episode Theme:
NFL legends and personalities Deebo and Joe chop it up with their signature humor and candor, tackling current events across the league: major player trade rumors (Minkah Fitzpatrick, Maxx Crosby), the Seahawks’ impending sale, the possibility of the Bears moving to Indiana, and stadium deals. The episode is heavy on first-hand experience, real talk about the business of football, and classic back-and-forth ribbing.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Rumors

• Rumor Rundown: Deebo and Joe open with news that Dolphins are reportedly in trade talks over five-time Pro Bowl safety Minkah Fitzpatrick after his recent release.
• Money Talk: Joe: “It’s a money thing…what’s the highest paid safety making? Probably around 20 [million].” (03:09)
• Career Choices: Deebo questions where Minkah could land, given his $17 million pay tag: “Y’all can shop that around all y’all want to. I don’t think nobody jumping on that again.” (02:40)
• Decision Making for Athletes: Joe reflects on choosing between guaranteed cash vs. teams primed to win:

  “You wanna go get a little bit more bag or go win for a little bit less...that’s why I went to Pittsburgh, even though New Orleans offered me more.” (03:57)

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2. Maxx Crosby Trade Speculation

• Tank Frustrations: Discussion about whether the Raiders are shopping DE Maxx Crosby, and what it feels like to be a top player on losing teams:

  “When the Raiders sat him down during the season, they were tanking. It blew me…why would you sit your best player down?…They trying to lose. You trying to get a better draft pick. I can't be here.” – Joe (06:12–07:21)

• Worth and Value:

  “They want two firsts and a premium player.” – Deebo (05:34)
  “You want to be with a contender, a winner.” (05:19)

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3. Seattle Seahawks & Trust of Paul Allen Sale

• Team & Trailblazers Up for Sale:

  “They’re selling…the estate of Paul G. Allen. Not just that team, the Trailblazers too.” – Deebo (09:12–09:40)

• Philanthropic Angle:

  “He using that money to help people…to the good, please. We need better people in this world.” – Joe (10:02)

• Contract Implications: Discussion on what the Seahawks’ sale means for contracts and upcoming players like “Spoon” (Devon Witherspoon), who, after winning a Super Bowl, should cash out:

  “You got your ring. Go get your bag.” – Joe (11:34)

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4. Chicago Bears Moving to Indiana?

• Stadium Relocation Rumor: Debo and Joe react to renderings of the Bears stadium in Hammond, Indiana, and debate the fanbase’s reaction:

  “Chicago Bears fans…will lose their minds.” – Joe (16:47)
  “Now everybody that’s a Bears fan gotta come back and get some other stuff…they got everything coming through on that.” – Deebo (17:40)

• Why Move? The hosts break down the real reason:

  “You know…they couldn’t find taxpayers in Chicago to pay for it. They going to Indiana…we might have some pockets for you to go ahead, get that built right here.” – Deebo (19:02)

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5. NFL Stadiums: New Builds, Relocations, and Upgrades

• Browns & Commanders’ New Projects:

  “The Browns, obviously, we opened up a new stadium coming up in 2029…they’re building a whole town, Debo.” – Joe (20:28)

• Technology & Comfort:

  “You see they putting a roof on? Yeah, so they can get Super Bowl. You throw the dome on it.” (20:55–21:01)

• Old-School Turf Hazards:

  “AstroTurf is nothing but…flat carpet laid on top of concrete…almost broke my back on that damn thing.” – Deebo (23:28–23:38)

• Locker Room Antics:

  “I get into the locker room, each locker got an ashtray in it, and it’s dirty…” – Deebo, reminiscing about Three Rivers Stadium (24:00–24:32)

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6. Golf, Life, and Listener Superchats

• Golf Bragging Rights:

  “Debo’s probably like a 30 handicap. He don’t even know what that is…You don’t even know what the index is!” – Joe (30:09)
  “I do putt…I ain’t good.” – Deebo (30:24)

• Physicality and Golf:

  “The only way you are good at golf, you victim weight gotta be…victim weight or have no muscle.” – Deebo (36:13–36:44)

Superchat Highlight (Listener Q&A at 27:38 and 37:03):

• Draft Hypothetical: “If both of you were coming into the draft today, where would you rate yourselves and your worth?”

  Joe: “If I’m Margarita Joe, I’m not getting drafted…in my prime, I’m going top 10. Same way I went, you know, I went seven, Debo.” (37:49–38:49)

• Banter About Football Careers:

  “You been in the league that long, you ain’t even won a playoff game?” – Deebo
  Joe: “Man, I think I got a tea time, man.” (39:08–39:12)

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Notable Quotes & Classic Moments

• On Team Loyalty vs. Chasing the Bag:

  “Just making yourself…what’s going to make you happy. So like you want to go get a little bit more bag or go win for a little bit less…” – Joe (04:24)

• On the Hammond Bears Stadium Renderings:

  “That looks AI. And it looks fi. Right on the water.” – Joe (16:39–16:42) “That look like it’s an island stadium…you gotta take a boat to the stadium.” – Joe (18:41–18:48)

• On Old NFL Stadiums:

  “Astro turf is nothing but metal, flat carpet…almost broke my back on that damn thing, bruh.” – Deebo (23:28–23:38)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Minkah Fitzpatrick Trade Talks: 01:47–04:58
• Maxx Crosby/Team Tanking Discussion: 05:19–08:08
• Seahawks for Sale & Philanthropy: 09:12–10:37
• Bears Moving to Indiana, Stadium Renderings: 16:12–19:19
• Stadium Innovations/Browns & Commanders: 20:15–21:21
• Astro Turf & NFL War Stories: 23:28–25:52
• Golf Trash Talk & Listener Q&A: 30:09–36:44
• Draft Hypotheticals and Superchats: 37:03–39:12
• Jersey Giveaways and Legends Banter: 40:01–42:31

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Tone & Language

The hosts keep it real, tossing jokes and jabs—especially about career records, physical fitness, and the business of football. There’s authentic insight into NFL locker room culture, hard decisions in athlete careers, and, above all, a genuine camaraderie that makes their audience feel like part of the conversation.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode delivers all the reasons Club Shay Shay’s athlete-driven episodes shine: hot NFL rumors, deep dives into the business side of professional sports, hilarious stories from days on the field (and the golf course), and unfiltered thoughts on stadium drama and what it means for fans and players alike. Whether you’re here for the inside football talk or just the comedy, this one’s packed with both.

Transcript

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[Joe]

The league.

[Deebo]

That man just got there.

[Joe]

Damn office had trade talks. Five time Pro Bowler. Minka was released earlier the week included.

[Deebo]

He coming back or what are you doing? We can't afford him. It's.

[Joe]

It's a. It's, it's a. Money. It's money, you know, I mean, Minka, he knows what. He knows we got for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I don't know. I know if he's gonna come back to Pittsburgh, it would be. It would be. It would be nice. Mink is a baller.

[Deebo]

Here's the thing. I Think he got like maybe a year left or two.

[Joe]

Maybe a year or two left playing.

[Deebo]

I don't, I don't. No, no, no. I'm talking about this contract. They're trying to trade him now. Like, dude, I think his, his Pay is like 17 million or something, dude. Like, and y', all, y' all can shop that around all y' all want to. I don't think nobody jumping on that again.

[Joe]

This is what I'm trying to figure out though. End of the day, the money, the figure. What. What do we. What's the highest paid safety making? Probably around that 20.

[Deebo]

20 million.

[Joe]

18.

[Deebo]

20 million.

[Joe]

But I'm saying like with. When you get, when you get to the elite level, like Minka, he's amazing.

[Deebo]

Use a ball.

[Joe]

A five time Pro Bowler, it's not his fan.

[Deebo]

But you just said.

[Joe]

I know, but that's why I'm looking at it too.

[Deebo]

We can't afford it.

[Joe]

We can't. And that's why I'm looking at Minka. And it gets to the point, where do you have the enough bread? And now when you get into this free agency or they're thinking about trading you. He ain't thinking about trading them.

[Deebo]

I think that, I think. I think they're going to end up either. If they could trade him, they'll trade him. But if they can't, I don't think they end up releasing it.

[Joe]

And if you release them, then he's

[Deebo]

free and he's free. Now. We gotta. Yeah.

[Joe]

It's just that Minka gotta look at the. And figure it out. Like, is it. When it gets to that point, Deebo, who's offering you the most money? When you sitting there and your agent. Look here, who's giving me, who's offering what, how. What's the contracts looking like? And then that's when you make that decision. Like, do I want to go win here? I think this team is ready to win. Little bit less or I'm gonna go over here, give me, give me the bag and we don't get our ass beat. And that's for sure. But like that's where you got to make that decision yourself because it's a little. The contracts, they're going to end it up. Arizona, offer me this. Patriots offer me this. Still is offering me this. Like this. Okay, I can go there, get that. Or then, you know, I'm saying just making yourself what's going to make you happy. So it's like you want to go get a little bit more bag or go win for a Little bit less and then like be able to stay there, be consistent. So that's why, I mean, shit, that's why I went to bed. Pittsburgh, when I looked at mine, options was open. I was going either New Orleans offered me more.

[Deebo]

I mean anywhere New Orleans offered me

[Joe]

more and the Dolphins did.

[Deebo]

I don't know if I could have turned down. Well, you ain't never won.

[Joe]

Shut up, Debo.

[Deebo]

You so disrespectful, bro. You ain't never won.

[Joe]

So that's.

[Deebo]

I did win.

[Joe]

I mean, right now, Danny Warfel.

[Deebo]

I'm just saying, man, I'm just saying, like, you ain't never won the NFL

[Joe]

saying that to be.

[Deebo]

Have you ever won a playoff game? No. Wow, that's crazy.

[Joe]

Crazy. Actually. That is crazy.

[Deebo]

But you know that. I think that's why they shopping around Max Carsby right now. They, they, you know, they trying to see what, what they could get for him. He want to go to a, a contender, a winner. You see that right there?

[Joe]

Mad, mad, mad man Max. He deserves to be with dude.

[Deebo]

They want two first and a premium player.

[Joe]

Three first rounds and they gonna have to pay 40 a year.

[Deebo]

Yeah, but here's the kicker, he owned a three year deal. So basically when you get him, you might as well be counting on two because it's gonna be a read up after the second. So how many teams are at that point where they could say, I can afford this contract because we are that close, that if he comes, we're going to win the super bowl by adding them and then of those teams who can afford it. Yep.

[Joe]

It's just top is. It's top teams. It's top teams. It's somebody who needs. And this what I'm looking at for Max too. Mad Max, he wants to win. When the Raiders sat him down during the season, they were tanking. And I saw it and it blew me. It just made me mad because at the end of the day, you know, Deebot, when you try and you really want to win and you really want to go, well, you might not know because you play for the winning teams. When I'm with the Browns and I'm like, bitch, I'm out here going as hard as I can and like, are we trying to win the games? And I'm looking at Mad Max. And if they sit you down and you're healthy and you know that they don't want you to play because it's like, are we trying to lose? I can't be involved in this situation. So if I'm Him. I respect the fact that Mad Max is out there balling every single week, even though he feels like his team ain't trying to win or the. Or the. Or the coaches. Why would you sit your best player down? Like, if I'm coming to the game, all right, bet I'm ready to go. Nah, Joe, you gonna sit down. That means y' all guys are trying to lose. You guys are trying to get a better draft pick. I can't be here. So if I'm Mad Max, I'm trying to get out of there. I'm trying to get to a team that's trying to win games because he's only one man. And when he's like, oh, no, what the Raiders defense do? How the hell you going? You can't put that on Mad Max. You can't put everything on him. So what's up?

[Deebo]

So when you're in a situation like that and you feel like. And you've been on a team that's losing and you haven't, you just feel like you have no chance to win.

[Joe]

Don't. Don't say that. I don't feel like I have no chance to win.

[Deebo]

I'm just saying, like, you. You know. You know that you. You haven't won. Like, how. Does. What. How does that make you feel?

[Joe]

I'm gonna tell you this. It pisses me off. Okay. Okay. And the one thing is, you start to really work on yourself, you know, like, I'mma do my part. I'm going to make sure it's not my fault. When you watch the tape, coach is going to see Joe's on it every play, man to man.

[Deebo]

Boom.

[Joe]

Check, check, check. Tackle. Pbu. You're on your alignment, your assignment, and your technique. So you just got to basically make sure you're not the problem. Put down the notepad, Deebo. Put down the notepad.

[Deebo]

Is that effective for you, Joe? I'm taking notes for your therapy session. Is that effective for you, Joe?

[Joe]

I mean, I just been feeling a lot of these players. Wyatt, Teller, Max. Mad Max being disrespected. These dudes love the game. They're trying their hardest, and the teams are just not. They're not rocking with them. So that's what throws me off.

[Deebo]

How does it make you feel inside when you.

[Joe]

Stop, Deebo, stop.

[Deebo]

Disrespect. Stop. Put your paper down.

[Joe]

God.

[Deebo]

Hey, man, listen, man, they talking deals everywhere, man. The Seattle, they. They selling. They selling the team. Well, the trust of. What's his name? Paul.

[Joe]

Paul G. Allen.

[Deebo]

Allen. Yeah. They're They're.

[Joe]

They're.

[Deebo]

They're selling the estate. The estate of Paul G. Allen. There's. They're.

[Joe]

Whoa.

[Deebo]

And they're giving it all away, bro.

[Joe]

That.

[Deebo]

That. That food. I can't say it. Can you say that word where?

[Joe]

Philanthropy.

[Deebo]

That's it. I can't say it. Breaks it back.

[Joe]

That's crazy.

[Deebo]

Now, hold up. Not just that team, the trailblazers too, bro. Selling it and giving it all the way. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. When I first heard that, I was like, oh, that's crazy. I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't.

[Joe]

Not the whole thing. Not the whole thing. That's the whole thing. I gotta. Got it.

[Deebo]

But then I started looking at it, though. Started looking at it. Joe Paul Allen, I don't think he got no cheering the wife. He got a sister he passed in 2018. So he ain't got no line. And he. What are you doing? He using that money to help you.

[Joe]

That's what I would just think he had a line. I can't take you if you ain't got no line. Give it to the good. Give it to the good.

[Deebo]

To the good, please.

[Joe]

We need better people in this world. That's amazing. I was just thinking, listen, if he got a line and he ain't get him nothing, oh, I'm not rocking.

[Deebo]

But that's. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. That's why I started looking. That's why I started looking. I said, oh, somebody done up bad, you know, somebody don't piss that off. I said, somebody that messed up bad, bro. And I ain't talking about just a little drug problem for sure.

[Joe]

There's needles.

[Deebo]

There's needles in the team in 97 for 194 million. That boy about to get bill. Well, he ain't about to get bills. The estate about to get bills to be able to help all these other that's, you know, positions out here. Now, with that being said, the cornerback willing, he's up. They gonna do.

[Joe]

They gonna be him. They gonna get him right?

[Deebo]

How they go get him, right? He's up. What you mean, he.

[Joe]

What you mean, he up? So now they gotta give him a contract.

[Deebo]

You think he ain't gonna go out there and.

[Joe]

And this is his first. You know what he's gonna go and as he should.

[Deebo]

He got the same bowl.

[Joe]

They won the bowl. My man Spoon is gonna get the bag on the other side. Spoon. And now he go, that's my thing. Go get your bag. You got your ring. Go get your bag and still go play and still try to go get another one. But that's where the situation is. I know the Seahawks, they might offer him a little something, but he gonna be able to go get his bag. And that's the point where I said, like you said, Deebo, go get your bag. If you won the super bowl, you're doing your thing. Go get it. Because this is his first one. Like, this is, you know, you do you playing. Once you get in there. He did what he had to do, won the Super Bowl. Now it's his time to. To get paid.

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[Joe]

can respect it, you know.

[Deebo]

Yeah, but that's the best way to do it.

[Joe]

Go win the super bowl on your rookie deal and then go get the bag after. Now you just.

[Deebo]

Now you just rich after you free them. Not. Not with a year left trying to

[Joe]

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[Deebo]

He free. Give us a freedom free all the way. Dude. I wish I could have had that.

[Joe]

Ain't nothing like that free agency.

[Deebo]

If one of my Super Bowls I won had been when I was free, that would have been great. What about you? What if you have got one when

[Joe]

you boy, you already know, right?

[Deebo]

How was yours? Did you you when you won yours? You ain't.

[Joe]

You shut up. Why you act? Why you do that, man? When you won yours, you weren't free.

[Deebo]

I was. I couldn't see.

[Joe]

When you won yours, you weren't free. You know I ain't win one.

[Deebo]

Oh, my bad.

[Joe]

Joe and pluck you sometimes, bro, you just be saying disrespectful things, bro.

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[Deebo]

I'm just talking, man. I'm just talking about you like you don't want to know what's disrespectful. The Chicago Bears moving to India is weird. Look at that. That go with the stadium gonna look like right there. Joe Stadium would look like that right there, Joe.

[Joe]

That looks fato.

[Deebo]

That don't. It looks fire.

[Joe]

It looks AI. And it looks fi.

[Deebo]

Right on the water.

[Joe]

That looks amazing. Boy.

[Deebo]

That's the Hammond Bears.

[Joe]

That looks amazing. But I'm gonna tell you this right now. I know some real live Chicago Bears fans that will be pissed. I think their fans are.

[Deebo]

What you mean will be pit. They all.

[Joe]

That's what I'm.

[Deebo]

Is this.

[Joe]

Is this official? Are they really.

[Deebo]

Are they. It's not like the mayor or. Or whatever.

[Joe]

Are they really moving?

[Deebo]

They trying to. They trying to do something depot.

[Joe]

They can't.

[Deebo]

They trying to get everything right. Like, don't do that. Please, Lord, don't do that.

[Joe]

Don't do that. I know the. The best fans will lose their minds.

[Deebo]

Listen, so do the name change, though. Are they still the Chicago.

[Joe]

No.

[Deebo]

Even though they in ham.

[Joe]

Hammond Bear. Hammond Bear. Nope. They don't even have no ring.

[Deebo]

No. And you can't use the seat in. Listen, they about to change everything because now you getting new uniforms. Now everybody that's a Bears fan gotta come back and get some other stuff. They got everything coming through on that.

[Joe]

Man. Don't do that.

[Deebo]

We're grabbing all the money and you want to be the first. You want to be the first.

[Joe]

I mean, that's that. It's always, man. It's. It's for. It's for the dough. It's definitely for the dough.

[Deebo]

So I ain't gonna lie. Look at that. Look at that.

[Joe]

Look at that stadium. Debo. Looks unbelievable, though. The Hammond Bears. That.

[Deebo]

The Hammond Bears.

[Joe]

I'm cool on the Hammond Bears, but the stadium is fire. Why they can't. But don't, don't, don't. Chicago got water. They could put that right in. Right in downtown.

[Deebo]

Man, what they go do. It's already on the water. It ain't on the water.

[Joe]

Not like that. That look like it's an island. That looks like an island stadium. You got to take a boat today.

[Deebo]

That's fake. It ain't gonna look like that. I hope it don't look.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. You gotta take a boat to the stadium. It's crazy.

[Deebo]

I can't. I can't hate. If it look like that.

[Joe]

I go.

[Deebo]

Listen, man, will it come down to. Man, is they. You know, they couldn't Find taxpayers in Chicago to.

[Joe]

To. To.

[Deebo]

To pay for it. They. They going to Indiana. Indiana. Like, you know, we might have some pockets for you to go ahead, get that built right here. We can help you out. Chicago made like. They ain't want to help out.

[Joe]

Crazy, though.

[Deebo]

Hey, how you think the Browns.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Deebo]

Went to Baltimore the same. Y' all don't want to get a man the stadium. All he wanted was the stadium.

[Joe]

Get him in the stadium, bro.

[Deebo]

No, I don't know. I like. I like the.

[Joe]

I like this. I love the stadium.

[Deebo]

I like. If that's what it's gonna look like. The rendering is on fire.

[Joe]

The rendering looks.

[Deebo]

I mean, AI.

[Joe]

Because I know the. Did you see the commanders? The commanders joint in the middle of D.C. that they got the projection to make looks unbelievable. Oh, you gotta beat that one. I'm telling you, D.C. got one coming. And, you know, the Browns, obviously, we opened up a new stadium coming up in 2029. Yeah. Hasms. You know what I'm saying? Doing a big one, y'. All.

[Deebo]

Doing what?

[Joe]

New stadium.

[Deebo]

New stadium. Why y' all taking the stadium up out of there? That's so against the. You know, whatever. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is. Y' all just built that other stadium. No, no, no.

[Joe]

We didn't just build that. We just upgraded it. But them boys just went in because you know what they're making, my man? The Hasms are not. They're. They're smart people. They're building a whole town, Debo.

[Deebo]

They so smart, they can't win.

[Joe]

They're smart because they're. He's smart money, man. He's going to make money. Money, money, Money gonna be good. Money's gonna be coming in.

[Deebo]

Money.

[Joe]

So you saying the football. I'm with you. I don't know. It's. They've been making a lot of missteps. Okay.

[Deebo]

You see they putting the roof on.

[Joe]

Yeah. So they can get Super Bowl. You throw the dome on it.

[Deebo]

I'm gonna tell you right now, it was so cold over. And in Minnesota, man, we went over, man. You step outside. Oh, Lord. Man, they ain't have. They ain't have a dome over there.

[Joe]

Boy.

[Deebo]

Them boys up back in the day, dude, they was playing on that. On that turf. Concrete, brother.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Deebo]

Raggedy Astroturf.

[Joe]

Rip your whole skin off. Hey, do you know where the Astroturf came from? The baseball team? The Astros. They were the first team to do it in, like, 1970.

[Deebo]

Yep.

[Joe]

They started Astroturf.

[Deebo]

So now you want to be A you now you want to be.

[Joe]

Because I went and look back at it, because I'm trying to figure out why everybody started doing Astroturf, and then that's when, you know, Dion and Bro, did you remember when they were wearing Michael Jordan shoes on the. On the field?

[Deebo]

Listen, listen, Joe. Listen to me. I played at Kent State.

[Joe]

Do y' all have Astroturf?

[Deebo]

That was our turf.

[Joe]

Did you have Astroturf?

[Deebo]

That was our turf.

[Joe]

Astronaut.

[Deebo]

Real life ash, bro.

[Joe]

You play with sneakers. You play with Jordan. You can play with Jordans.

[Deebo]

I play, dude. Hell no. I couldn't afford.

[Joe]

But I'm saying, you play with some Nikes on.

[Deebo]

You know what, man? That rich man problem stuff, Man, I wish I could get that, though. You played with just some Jordans on you, Mr. Jordans up. You missed your Jordans. I played in some Pumas.

[Joe]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Deebo]

You saying ball and they like I play. No, they might have been Reebok, now that I think about it.

[Joe]

Still good.

[Deebo]

But anyway, it was flat bottom. No, I wasn't buying those. I wasn't buying no classic. I should. I should have got some Nikes, went out there playing some of the most. I'm telling you, man, could have been

[Joe]

out there playing them super freaks and the Randy Mosses and them Bo Jacksons, dude.

[Deebo]

You ain't never hit that old turf, Joe.

[Joe]

No, Joe, I think. I think I hit the turf.

[Deebo]

Yo, look, I don't know if you can see that. That's old turf from college.

[Joe]

That's. That's what I'm talking about. Hold on.

[Deebo]

That's old turf from college. I got a little.

[Joe]

I got a little turf. Nope. I'm just a little ashy. I don't got no turf on me right now.

[Deebo]

Yeah, yeah. So you went to. You went to Florida. Y' all played on grass.

[Joe]

We did.

[Deebo]

We had.

[Joe]

We had an Astro, too. We had an Astro turf practice field, though.

[Deebo]

Y' all have. Y' all ain't have that. Y' all wasn't falling on it. And it wasn't.

[Joe]

It wasn't Astro. It had the beads in it.

[Deebo]

It was. Bro, Astro turf is nothing but metal, flat carpet. It's flat carpet laid on top of concrete.

[Joe]

I. I know what you're talking about. I didn't play on it.

[Deebo]

And a thin piece of rubber like that, they think go take away the impact. They crazy. Bro, I almost broke my back on that damn thing, bruh. Like, come on, man.

[Joe]

Dudes was out there in the games wearing sneakers. That's when I'm like, this is Crazy. You're wearing sneakers on a football field. How?

[Deebo]

Dude, when I played at Three Rivers in college, I was playing. I was. I was playing with Kent State, right? And we like, yo, we gonna get to play at Three Rivers. We was playing pit. I'm like, yeah, you know, we get up in there, man. Listen, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you, dude. That was the most depressing thing that I seen in a minute, bro. I get into the locker room. When I get into the locker room, each locker got an ashtray in it, and it's dirty.

[Joe]

Oh, so they've been smoking here, Dog,

[Deebo]

they were smoking in there, bro. I don't know if they were smoking now, but they were smoking in there at times. Like, you know how crazy that sound, bro? Half time, they. They. They blowing a cigarette.

[Joe]

They stressed out.

[Deebo]

Hey, man, they running that.

[Joe]

Hurry up.

[Deebo]

Trying to kill me off. Y' all can't even. You trying to kill yourself? Yes. Oh, my God, bruh, That's like, all you gotta do.

[Joe]

That's crazy.

[Deebo]

So listen, now we get out there and we, like. We thinking we go get this good turf. Nah, bro, it was. It was. It was the turf that we was used to being on. And on top of it, dude, it was parts of it that was just bunched up. Could trip you, I think. I think. I don't know what it was. I don't know what it was covering like. Dude, it was. It was bad, bro. It was. It was so. It was. It was bunch. Like, literally almost balled up. And then we had a rain delay, right? We had a rain delay. And as we go inside for, like, the rain delay, bro, it's leaking water.

[Joe]

Shut up, man.

[Deebo]

Bro, I ain't lying. I'm like, this is. You know, I was never. You know, I wasn't thinking about no league, nothing, Anything.

[Joe]

No, for sure.

[Deebo]

And I wouldn't like you. I ain't know, my friend.

[Joe]

Getting rained on.

[Deebo]

Hey, who behind you?

[Joe]

Oh, my good man Sam, man. I got my good man Sam, man. One of my golf. One of my golf trip members, you know, they trying to check on. On the show, seeing what time we got a tee time. About 35, 40 minutes.

[Deebo]

Yeah, telling. Telling. We got working. We got work to do. Tell him, go ahead, get you another drink. He want to be useful. Mark.

[Joe]

Spicy. All right.

[Deebo]

Spicy. Spicy Margarita, Tabasco sauce, man. Bro. Joe, I'm. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a little disappointed. And you telling me it's earlier there

[Joe]

than it is here, Debo, I'm on a vacation Right now, man, I'm on a vacation. I'm having a great time. You know, I'm just out here with the homies, just living, just blessed, just grateful, you know what I'm saying? I got breath in my lungs. What could be what? You know what I'm saying?

[Deebo]

That's all. That's. That's it.

[Joe]

Just go this go bless the be it.

[Deebo]

And then you go. You go. What did you eat? What did I eat?

[Joe]

I had something.

[Deebo]

What did you eat? What did you put on your stomach?

[Joe]

I had a break, man. Look, we got the lady inside cooking the breakfast burritos for us.

[Deebo]

You ain't at a hotel. You got a house, huh?

[Joe]

You got a house. And I got my sticks, golf clubs. So you already know what time it is, Debo.

[Deebo]

Yeah, man. I'm sticked up, man.

[Joe]

I'm sticked up,

[Deebo]

man. We got us. We got some super chats. Your tea time might have to get back, buddy.

[Joe]

Come on. What is super chat with your tea time, man? It's mine.

[Deebo]

We got super chat. It's C, C, d. What's that, CDOC or C doc. It's C dot. $10. It says, Debo, you're my favorite player of all time. Can I please. Can you please tell my boy Mike to stop lacking and get in the gym? Mike who? Tell Mike get in there.

[Joe]

I'm telling him, lift some weights.

[Deebo]

Debo, get his back right. Tell him I said get his back right.

[Joe]

Hey, that's how I know you.

[Deebo]

This back right.

[Joe]

That's how I know when you're swole, you don't go to arms. Chest. Get that in the back right.

[Deebo]

Get his back right.

[Joe]

That's what small people say.

[Deebo]

Hey, we ain't looking at no arms nothing. Get your back right with his back.

[Joe]

What's your shoulders look? What's your shoulders look like?

[Deebo]

Oh, little back.

[Joe]

Your back so little.

[Deebo]

Your back so little. I ain't gonna lie. The arms still do come in. You know, they come in handy, though. You know they come in. They come in handy. Listen, man, if I don't love me, who will?

[Joe]

You know your boy love you, Debo.

[Deebo]

You know your boy love you, brother. Life, Covenant.

[Joe]

Gotta get Covenant. Life right.

[Deebo]

7397 $10 said the Browns need to play at the local rec department. Oh, coveted. I love you, Joe, but, oh, my

[Joe]

God, she was my dog.

[Deebo]

Y' all are complet, huh? Yeah, she said y' all complete.

[Joe]

I redirected that jersey I was sending to your ass. Coveted. I was redirected it.

[Deebo]

She Said, by the way, where's Jarvis Landry?

[Joe]

Man, I don't know where Jarvis Landry is. Is he retired?

[Deebo]

Is he down there with you? No, no, no. He ain't here.

[Joe]

Hold on, my man.

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[Joe]

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[Deebo]

Okay, okay. All right, my dude. We got. We got Mike. Mike. Dash 100. Donated $5. He asked. He said, what up, Debo? And Joe, who is the better golfer?

[Joe]

Debo, you already know what time it is. I'm sitting over here right now. Index getting a Little High. I'm 11. I know. Debo's probably like a 30 handicap. He don't even know what that is, bruh. You don't even know what the index is.

[Deebo]

Listen, just know I'm gonna tell you. Listen, I don't know what the hell a handicap is. I still don't know it is. But I will say this. I don't swing a GR Club no more. I do putt. Yeah, that's it. And I ain't good.

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[Joe]

You try to hit the ball too hard, Debo. You swing too hard.

[Deebo]

Pry, bro. I pulled my delt swinging that damn golf club.

[Joe]

That's why you never just pull your delt Playing golf. You gotta be smooth, you gotta be smart. Nah, bro, you're too swole.

[Deebo]

That's why they're talking about just, just, just swing it.

[Joe]

Just let the club.

[Deebo]

Let the club. Let the club do the work. Let the club lead you all the other. Down my face.

[Joe]

Let me let the club do the work one more time.

[Deebo]

Like, I'm gonna tell you right now, the only way you are good at golf, you victim weight gotta be no, you gotta be, man. And. And. And. And you gotta be no, bro.

[Joe]

My good man, my best friend, Gino Da Silva.

[Deebo]

Anything. Anything.

[Matt Rogers]

Any.

[Deebo]

Anything. 210 and down, victim weight.

[Joe]

Now, my boy, my boy. 235 scratch zero baller.

[Deebo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Now, what you got to say about that?

[Deebo]

Is he fat?

[Joe]

No, he's like. He's normal.

[Deebo]

What's normal? Like, is he over. Is he over 15%?

[Joe]

I would say he's. I would say. I would say 12, 13.

[Deebo]

So he's over 15, which means he's fat. I was fat. He ain't got no muscle to pull. Look at John. John, what's his name? The big dude, drink all the beer and swing the gun.

[Joe]

John Daly. Yes, yes, yes. Big body, big.

[Deebo]

But he ain't gonna pull no muscles because ain't nothing there.

[Joe]

What about Tiger Woods? How are you gonna say about what? About what about Roy McElroy, Tiger Wood victim. He the nicest ever.

[Deebo]

I'm just. I'm make. You making my point. You got to be victim weight to be good.

[Joe]

You got to be victim weight to be good to go. You said you got to be victim weight. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, John. Wrong. There are some.

[Deebo]

Daddy was big, but with no muscle, too. You got to be victim weight or have no muscle.

[Joe]

Victim weight or have no muscle.

[Deebo]

All right, Joe. It's no. It's no other way. There's no other way to do it.

[Joe]

I'm just mad because I can't disprove this point because I am victim weight and I am nice as hell at golf. So that's just why I just, like, I'm gonna go ahead and take it. So you're going. So you.

[Deebo]

So you're gonna be bad. You was fighting that the whole time. At least you just admitted I am victim weight. Cause you was fighting that the whole time I said it. I appreciate you, Joe. Now we're gonna go back over to Covenant Life. Oh, my God. Covenant Life hit us with two, honey. I'm not. Oh, Lord. She said, if both of you were coming into the draft today, where would you rate yourselves and your worth? And would you have. And would you have say on who you. Hell, no. You ain't got say on who you signed with. You don't have say on who you signed it. And then she said, next zero. If you had just completed your rookie contract, where would you rate yourself? I love you guys. I love you, too.

[Joe]

After my bookie contract, I'd have rated myself goddamn high.

[Deebo]

No, no. If you were coming into the draft today, where would you rate yourself and your worth?

[Joe]

If I was coming in the draft today? Like what? Like, like I. I got drafted in 2010, but I'm acting like I'm the same. Me in 2010 or right now? Joe sitting at Cabo with the margarita?

[Deebo]

Yeah. Which one is it? Is it right now? Covenant. Is it right now?

[Joe]

If I'm Margarita Joe, I'm not getting drafted.

[Deebo]

Let's do both right now.

[Joe]

Free agent.

[Deebo]

You ain't getting.

[Joe]

Not getting picked up. My hips are too.

[Deebo]

Yeah, we ain't neither one of them

[Joe]

not getting picked up. They would lose the draft pick on me. They would. They would waste the pick now.

[Deebo]

In your prime. In your prime, you free.

[Joe]

Oh, in my prime. I'm still. I'm going. I'm just going. I'm going top. Like, top 10. I'm going top 10. Same way, you know, I went seven, Debo.

[Deebo]

So where you want to go? You want to go back to Cleveland?

[Joe]

Honestly, bro, I wouldn't change.

[Deebo]

I mean,

[Joe]

I want either. I mean, the Browns, the way I went to Cleveland. I love the city. I had so many. I don't want to take. I wouldn't. I wouldn't change.

[Deebo]

What year you came in, Joe. 2010. Joe.

[Joe]

2010.

[Deebo]

You've been in the league that long, you ain't even want to play our game?

[Joe]

Hey, man, I think I got a tea time, man. I gotta go. I got, I got, I got.

[Deebo]

Listen, man, you can't. You can't leave. We got. We gotta finish these chats, man.

[Joe]

Playoff or non playoff?

[Deebo]

I'm just asking a question, Joe. I'm. I ain't ask the people this.

[Joe]

They asked.

[Deebo]

I ain't asking. Covenant Life, our girl, she asked. You better listen, man. Just ask a question. Do what you supposed to do.

[Joe]

How could I keep shooting these shots? I thought that was. I thought she was my homie.

[Deebo]

Hey, hey. She came back, too. She said another five down. She said, you better send my jersey and stop playing, both of you. She talking to me, too. Don't play. I got too much love.

[Joe]

As long as you keep coming with that love. And just don't be talking crazy about your boy Jody. I got you. I don't know about Deebo, but I got you.

[Deebo]

Hey, listen, she never. She never said I know.

[Joe]

She never said nothing crazy.

[Deebo]

She never said nothing crazy. Matter of fact. Matter of fact. Hey, cover, I got something for you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Stay right there. I'll be right back.

[Joe]

Hold on.

[Deebo]

Stay right there.

[Joe]

Oh, no. Coveted. You know I rock with you. I'm really. I'm sending that jersey to you, darling.

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[Joe]

Who knows what Debo about to go get this, man.

[Deebo]

What you got? We're gonna get it to her. We gonna get it to her.

[Joe]

Oh, hey, bro.

[Deebo]

Look at that.

[Joe]

No, not hey, bro. Real talk. You gotta send me one, too, bro. You gotta send me one, Debo. You gotta send me one, bro. You got the Super Bowl.

[Deebo]

What?

[Joe]

Come on, bruh.

[Deebo]

Yo, you got enough jerseys over there. What are you talking about?

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[Deebo]

This from the first Super Bowl. It's not even the second one, Joe. Just from the first one. Mitchell and Nest. Yeah, I don't know.

[Joe]

You know about that. Michelin s, man. Danny Warfel.

[Deebo]

Yeah. You see that right there? That's the throwback 205.

[Joe]

You know about the throwbacks?

[Deebo]

Yeah, you know about the throwbacks, man, That's. That's for legends, man. You know what I'm saying? That's how I.

[Joe]

Hey, bro, let me get one of them.

[Deebo]

Real talk.

[Joe]

I could throw it up in my bar.

[Deebo]

You know what I'm saying? They gotta be like, hey, Mr. Harrison, can we make your jersey, sir? I'd be like, hey, since you asked

[Joe]

so nicely, but make sure you send me some.

[Deebo]

Make sure you send me some so I can send one to Covenant and Joe. And I'm not sending one to thank you. I said I'm not. Huh? I got you, though. I got you. That's the. Hey, listen, that's the. That's the alcohol ears you got on you right now. I got you.

[Joe]

Thank you, Debo.

[Deebo]

Look here, Joe, I need that. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. You know, probably in about a. Another year or two, it's probably gonna be another one that got a different super bowl emblem on it from the same company. For another legend dairy super bowl victory by the Pittsburgh Steelers in dedication of the immaculate interception.

[Joe]

All I know is Devo. Yes. But send me one of them jerseys, man. Signed to your boy because that's fine.

[Deebo]

I got you, Joe. I got you, though, man. It ain't no problem. Look here, man, we want to thank everybody. Everybody, man, for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you, like, subscribe and download where you get your podcast. We will be back here on Monday and I'm assuming Joe has some tea time that he has to get to and all this other stuff. But Joe, go ahead, guys.

[Joe]

Debo and Joe, we love you guys to pull up on us and I had to pull up in Cabo, you know what I'm saying? Great vibes, great energy. Appreciate y' all and we will see you on Monday. I'll be back at the crib in the office. Same spot. Let's get it.

[Deebo]

Here we go.

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