Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Dexter Lawrence Requests Trade, Deebo Forgot How To Squat, Masters Menu

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe (Part 2): Dexter Lawrence Requests Trade, Deebo Forgot How To Squat, Masters Menu

Episode Date: April 7, 2026
Host: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker
Guests: Debo & Joe
Main Theme: A candid, humorous discussion on NFL contract realities (Dexter Lawrence requesting a trade), life after football (funny gym and wine stories), Masters golf tournament culture, and fan Q&A.

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Episode Overview

This episode continues the laid-back, chemistry-filled conversation between former NFL stars Debo and Joe, guided by their authentic voices and comedic timing.
Key topics include:

• The business and emotional side of NFL contracts with a spotlight on Giants tackle Dexter Lawrence’s trade request.
• Lighthearted stories about gym struggles and muscle memory.
• A deep-dive into the unique (and shockingly affordable) food experience at the Masters golf tournament.
• Reflections on wine culture and personal taste.
• Audience interaction with sports trivia, stories from their playing days, and updates on upcoming guests.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gym Stories & “Forgetting How to Squat”

• Debo and Joe bond over their current fitness routines and the way time, injuries, and surgeries change athlete priorities.

• Debo amusingly reveals he hadn’t squatted seriously in almost three years due to knee surgeries, and when he tried, his body “forgot” how to do it:

  • Debo (07:08):
    “Bro, I didn’t know you could forget how to squat… My muscles were twitching… I cannot squat right anymore, dude.”
  • Joe admits to focusing more on staying in shape than any “world record” attempts:
    Joe (05:44):
    “I’m not the quarterback… What I’m trying to do, set a world record? I’m trying to stay in shape.”

• Both share the struggle with mobility, warming up, and the importance of not letting pride dictate training:

  • Joe (08:17):
    “My thing with squatting is my mobility… I gotta get this hip all the way right… I gotta warm up first… can’t go in there and think it’s all sweet.”
  • Debo (09:04):
    “Give me three, four weeks, man. I’m gonna get back up. I don’t go no higher than 405 now because I had a couple of microdiscectomies.”

Memorable moment:

• Debate over who will have to wrestle their own sons once the “young bucks” get strong in the gym (09:40–10:22).

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2. Dexter Lawrence Requests a Trade – NFL Contract Realities

• Discussion shifts to Giants DT Dexter Lawrence holding out of offseason workouts and requesting a trade due to lack of guaranteed money on the final two years of his deal.

  • Debo breaks it down (12:36):
    “He’s like, okay, well, show me. Prove me. Prove it to me and show me by paying me… You don’t have that same feeling when they tell the player, ‘take a pay cut.’ …He’s letting everybody know he wants to be traded so he has a better opportunity.”

• Key Insights:

  • It's crucial for players to strike while their market value is high—Debo and Joe strongly defend Lawrence’s move, seeing it not as disloyalty but smart business.

  • The conversation highlights the hypocrisy in team/ownership demands for pay cuts vs. player demands for raises.

    • Joe (14:57):
      “When the shoe’s on the other foot… Yesterday’s price is not today’s price is real life going on in the NFL… 20 million sounds good to you, but another dude in my position is making 40…”

  • Debo (22:12):
    “The owner started this when they started asking for pay cuts. Y’all sign a man to a contract, then y’all want to tell him, ‘Oh, you ain’t played good enough. Take a pay cut.’”

• Both agree: Players who outperform contracts should advocate for themselves, just as teams do when they want to redistribute money.

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3. Vikings’ GM Search—Front Office Dynamics

• The guys debate why Minnesota is delaying their general manager search until after the NFL Draft (22:26–25:56). They're puzzled by the logic of hiring a GM who must live with picks he didn't help make.

  • Debo (23:54):
    “You’re expecting a GM to come in and agree with whatever it is y’all picked and then have to take responsibility for that… I don’t understand that.”
  • Joe (25:03):
    “You never know who to blame. You never know who’s able to point the finger to. ‘This is who you picked.’”

• Both riff on how the new GM will have to pretend to have agreed with all the pre-draft decisions.

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4. Masters Menu & Culture

• The conversation lightens as they marvel at the famously cheap concessions at the Masters golf tournament—the opposite of most major sporting events:

  • Debo (27:39):
    “Look at the Masters prices on these burgers, man… Ten dollars, bruh. Ten dollars. You can’t get a water for ten dollars at an NFL game!”

  • Joe confirms from experience, sharing how the Masters is expensive to get into but food is fair and the atmosphere is unique because there are no cell phones, creating a “be in the moment” vibe (28:46–29:17).

• Both construct their ideal $10 Masters order; the pulled pork sandwich and breakfast sandwich get top votes, while Debo laughs at the Southern staple “pimento cheese sandwich” (31:19–33:08).

  • Debo (32:59):
    “It ain’t a such thing as a cheese sandwich where I’m from…”

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5. Wine Stories & Family Tastes

• Debo shares an elaborate wine story from his 40th birthday, humorously explaining how his family and guests ignored his top-shelf collection to drink the cheapest wine—Barefoot Chardonnay—hidden in the fridge:

  • Debo (40:21):
    “These people don’t went into the refrigerator and grabbed a big bottle… Barefoot. She did not even have it on the table. She was serving from underneath!”

  • Debo (41:29):
    “They was mad it was no more. I said, man, y’all could run your ass to the store and get that for $5.99. And you know what they did? They went right to the store. Got it.”

• Joe relates to evolving wine palettes, starting with sweet and moving to dry, classic wines.

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6. Audience Q&A, NFL Trivia, and Guest Teasers

• Superchat fan “Covenant Life” quizzes Debo about Joe's football history (43:33–46:52), including his first game as a true freshman for the Florida Gators and James’ (Debo) memorable 3.5-sack, 3-forced-fumble game against the Ravens.

  • Debo (45:16):
    “Had three and a half sacks, three forced fumbles, but also recorded a famous tackle on a punt return in that game. Who was this Hall of Famer?... Reed. That’s easy, man. That’s all over TV.”

• Debo jokes about trying to get Troy (presumably Troy Polamalu) as a guest, being ready to “give up [one of his] kids, animals, or reptiles” (47:14).

• Announcement: Michael Pittman Jr., newly acquired Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver, is slated for Friday’s episode (48:00).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On lifting & aging as athletes

  • “Bro, I didn't know you could forget how to squat.” – Debo (07:08)
  • “Right now, I got Sponge—not Spongebob muscles, but you know what I'm saying. I'm trying to look good…” – Joe (05:21)

• On NFL contracts

  • “Yesterday’s price is not today’s price is real life going on in the football and National Football League.” – Joe (14:57)
  • “The owner started this when they started asking for pay cuts. Y’all sign a man to a contract, then y’all want to tell him, ‘Oh, you ain't play good enough. Take a pay cut.’” – Debo (22:12)

• On the Masters experience

  • “You can’t get a water for ten dollars at an NFL game, bro!” – Debo (27:54)
  • “There’s no cell phones… everybody there, you are just there in the moment, chilling. Nobody’s on the thing. It’s one of the best experiences.” – Joe (28:46)

• On wine and family

  • “These people don’t went into the refrigerator and grabbed like 2/2 gallons of Boones Farm or something. Barefoot… They killed that.” – Debo (41:28)

• On getting future guests

  • “I may have to give up, you know, maybe one of my first-borns or something, you know…just to get the man on the show.” – Debo, joking about booking Troy (47:14)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Debo’s Squat Struggles: 06:03–08:17
• NFL Contract Talk & Dexter Lawrence: 11:01–15:48
• Vikings’ GM Dilemma: 22:12–25:56
• Masters Menu, Cheap Eats: 27:29–32:33
• Wine Storytime: 38:15–41:44
• Fan Q&A and NFL Trivia: 43:01–46:52
• Upcoming Guests Announcement: 48:00–48:05

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Tone & Style

• The episode is conversational, authentic, and playful—frequent jokes, friendly trash talk, and real insight into NFL and athlete life.
• Both speakers banter freely, often sharing personal stories to illustrate larger points about football and life.
• There’s plenty of practical wisdom and relatable aging-athlete content, mixed with NFL business reality and laughter.

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode is perfect for fans who want to hear genuine, behind-the-scenes perspectives from two respected NFL veterans—on everything from contract drama to gym fails, favorite food, and family quirks. It’s a reminder that after the lights fade, the camaraderie (and comic misadventures) go on.

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Next episode preview:
Michael Pittman Jr., Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver, will be joining Debo and Joe for an in-depth conversation—don’t miss it!

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

What's wrong?

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

Wow. Hey, but speaking of Tampa, man, you say you lift weights, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Check out Baker right here. You lift weights like this?

[Joe]

Hold up.

[Debo]

Yeah. Zoom in. You see what it is?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Count the plates. Go ahead, run that back for him.

[Joe]

That's Baker. Who?

[Debo]

Baker. We in Tampa. Baker.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Pick a big swole.

[Debo]

Remember he used to play with you? Y' all got rid of him? Stefanski. Yeah.

[Joe]

That's what. Yeah, I'm a Baker fan.

[Debo]

You lift weights?

[Joe]

Yeah. I can't do that. Like that. Not right now. Nope.

[Debo]

You don't lift weights like that.

[Joe]

This is all I'm trying to tell you. I'm not the quarterback. What I'm trying to do. Go to the. What I'm trying to do, set a world record. I'm trying to stay in shape.

[Debo]

Number 495. Joe.

[Joe]

Not. Not right now. Not on my back.

[Debo]

Squat. And you get to hold on. I could pro. I could. Okay. Back then.

[Joe]

Back then. For sure, for sure, for sure. Easy. I don't need. I don't even need a hat.

[Debo]

Sets of 10.

[Joe]

Come on, Debo. I'm. And I'm low.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Joe]

Ah. I'm in the bucket with it. I might go butt the calf if I have to.

[Debo]

No question.

[Joe]

Come on, man.

[Debo]

Only for real.

[Joe]

But. Right. But like, after that, now, people, I'M lifting for. To keep my. You know what I'm saying? Right now, I got sponge, not spongebob muscles, but you know what I'm saying? I. Look, I'm trying to look good. I'm trying to make sure I can, you know what I'm saying? Still. Run, SpongeBob. Jump. SpongeBob still, you know what I'm saying? Be sweet. Not SpongeBob. But I'm throwing up to 225. Like, I just need 10 times 10. 225. 10.

[Debo]

10.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, now that's. That's just as strong as I need to be over 10. Then I'm like, dang, I'm. What am I trying to do now? Do I need to compete? Should I start trying to compete? You know what I'm saying?

[Debo]

Listen, listen, Joe, I got to tell you, I don't even know why I'm gonna tell you this, man. Because it's gonna look bad. All right? So, Pete, gang. No, And I had a few, like, knee surgeries, you know, I had a few meniscus, you know.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

The last couple years, right? So I really done. I really stepped away from the squat game. I started doing leg press, right? And I really stepped away from that, too, right? So I hadn't really did any real squatting in almost two and a half, three years, right? Yeah, Joe. No, Joe. No, Joe. I planned on going light. I was, you know, I'm used to doing, like. I used to be able to take, you know, 565 and, you know, do three sets of eight. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Yo, I went in there this, bruh, but this was Friday or Friday or Sunday, bro. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go in here and squat. I go in there, squadron. I put the bar on just to get the movement. Yeah, bro, I didn't know you could forget how to squat.

[Joe]

Oh, no, Your whole. See your phone. Your form was off.

[Debo]

Your form was trash. After. I can't believe I've been telling you this, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, strong man. Let me know what's up.

[Debo]

After one set of 135, bruh, my muscles were twitching.

[Joe]

10 just. What?

[Debo]

You get two reps, bro.

[Joe]

10 reps at a 135, bro.

[Debo]

My muscles was twitching. I'm like, all right, maybe they just getting used to it. So I'm like, all right, let me go to 225, bro. I go to 225. I can't figure out. I. I cannot squat right Anymore, dude. Like, I. I'm adjusting four and five times trying to get down there, like, right. It was. It was the most garbage thing ever.

[Joe]

But what's up?

[Debo]

It was yesterday. I came back, though. I didn't get up that high. I got to like 3:15. But I felt good about it.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

I wasn't twitching and doing all the movement. So. Yeah, I might have to go into like 30 days of squatting, bro. Just. Just to get.

[Joe]

To get back right. Just to get back, right. No, for sure, for sure, for sure. And I think my thing with squatting is my mobility. Cause I told you my hip. Bad hip, got that bad hip. So I gotta get down all the way, right? I'll get the leaning a little bit. I'm like, come on, Joe, we gotta get this hip all the way, right? But I'm still squatting smooth. It's just. I gotta warm up. I gotta warm up first.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I just can't go in there and think it's all sweet to jump down in there.

[Debo]

No, you know, I like to do my. I like to do my warm up first. So I'm like. I'm on the. I do my cardio first. You do my cardio.

[Joe]

That was the most. That's what. The most perfect thing that we did when I worked out with you that day. We got on the. We got on the treadmill first for 45 minutes.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And now I'm as warm as I'm not. I'm past warm. I'm tired now.

[Debo]

When I hit a stretch and then I hit my. Hit my weight. So. Yeah, it. Yeah, it was a little different angle. You know, it was. It was a. It was eye opening, but yeah, give me three, four. Give me three. Give me three. Four weeks, man. I'm gonna get back up. I don't go no higher than four or five now because, you know, I had a couple microdiscectomies, but I'll get back to 405 for baby sets of 12 to 15.

[Joe]

See, no, I. For me, with my squad now, I don't need to get back up to the four or five. None of that three 15s. Repping that for 10, you know what I'm saying? Three sets. Three to three. Yeah. Three, four, five. Three to four sets. Boom. Solid. Yeah.

[Debo]

You know, they might want to wrestle or something. You know what I'm saying? Joe, you better get your legs right. Cause when. No, I'm always when you look.

[Joe]

Taking care of my legs, bro. I'm taking care of my legs.

[Debo]

Like, yo, come see what this is about, old man?

[Joe]

No, for sure, for sure. I'm leg extensions, you know what I'm saying? I'm making sure. I'm keeping. I'm keeping the quads, the hamstrings, you know what I'm saying? I never. Don't mess with my legs.

[Debo]

Them boys gonna be squatting. Five, six, honey.

[Joe]

Yes. And that. They.

[Debo]

They go take one leg and kick you.

[Joe]

Nope.

[Debo]

And it's over with.

[Joe]

They ain't gonna disrespect their dad like that.

[Debo]

Y' all gonna be wrestling.

[Joe]

Oh, they gonna do it.

[Debo]

Put that thing.

[Joe]

They ain't gonna have a choice.

[Debo]

Down. Put that foot in the dirt.

[Joe]

I ain't gonna get the rest.

[Debo]

Lift you up. Don't let them jump. If they jump, you call your boy, okay? Because if mine jumped me, I'm gonna call you. All right?

[Joe]

For sure. For sure.

[Debo]

You understand?

[Joe]

Please. Hey, listen, I' ma just centralize time. I'll be like, hey, listen, ain't nobody over here.

[Debo]

Ain't nobody over here, like, below victim weight, you know, so you're gonna have to make sure you working out.

[Joe]

Listen, I still got young one.

[Debo]

He might be like 180. You might. You know what I'm saying? I'll give you him. I'll take James.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. One. We right. Even. Same weight.

[Debo]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You got action, too. You got action, too. No question about it.

[Joe]

You got no base.

[Debo]

Run over here to the Giants, baby. Giants tackle Dexter Lawrence has requested a trade. He said he will not participate in team off season workout program. Lawrence has two years remaining on his deal and is currently scheduled to make 20 million this upcoming season. Oh, he has no more guaranteed money. There you go, Joe. My man ain't got no more guaranteed paper. Joe, do you find it surprising for him to ask for this? Are you surprised that he asked for a trade?

[Joe]

This is. No, this is what he. When you are in the point of your career, when you know you're trying to hit the table, you're trying to always. If he didn't have a good season or if he did have a good season, you know, it's only too many more times you can get a cut at that app, you know what I'm saying? A slice at the pot, trying to get another contract. So when you seeing other people get deals and you feel like your money isn't where it should be, and you know, like you're still under that 30 years old, when they. When they're not just taking your cut, they're not just taking your money, they're not just giving you a less contract because of your age, when you still feel like you can get that bag. He's trying to go do it. So being able to feel like he's outperformed some of his contracts, seeing other defensive tackles signed for more money than him, and he knows, like, I. I just. It's not going to be too many more times I can do it. And I think that's. That's what it is at this point.

[Debo]

Yeah. So if you look at it, I guess he signed his deal in 20, 23. He was getting paid around the, you know, the top guys at that time. When he signed it, other guys signed the deals. Of course, it's no longer in that range. I think they said he's like around, like 10, middle of the pack, somewhere around there, contract negotiation. He's trying to get some more guaranteed money. His money is not no longer guaranteed. But you got a new coach in Harbaugh. Harbaugh said. I think in February he said Lawrence is super, super important and he's a cornerstone football player. And he's like, okay, well, show me. Prove me. Prove it to me and show me by paying me. And I already know it's people out there that's gonna be like, oh, well, you know, he signed a deal, you know, so he should just go ahead and play. Nope, nope. Y' all don't have that same feeling when they tell the player, hey, take a pay cut, because they don't feel like he's playing up to the value that they're going to pay him at. And right now he feels like he has outplayed what they had given him. Thousand biggest thing is no more guaranteed money left on his contract. And the last year of his contract, which is not this year coming, but next year he actually gets PA almost four, $5 million less. And, dude, I think where he's at is, yo, it's smart for him to ask for the trade now so that you don't. You're not asking for a trade after the draft. He's letting everybody out there know that he wants to be traded so he has a better opportunity of a team that may be looking to draft that position. They're like, you know what? We can go and get him and fill that spot right now. Um, I have no problem with it. I'm cool with it. Just as I'm, you know, understandable if I'm the owner and you want to ask for a pay cut, you go have to be understandable as he is outplayed the contract of course last year he didn't have that great of a season, but you're talking about a guy that clogs up the middle that's going to take two every time. And he is definitely the top, if not one of the top. He's one of the top, if not the top tackle on, you know, on the inside right now. So I have absolutely no problem with this and I'm all for it. Brother.

[Joe]

Debo, you when we, when we, when we connect, when we think the same thing, we think the same thing. Like the coaches, I don't feel mad at like the ownership too. When they're trying to get players to get pay cuts. If you underperform your contract, they quick to chop it up and and tell you to take a pay cut. You're a none. You're underperforming this deal. We need to restructure when the, when the shoe's on the other foot. He's outplayed this deal. He feels like he doesn't have any more guaranteed money. He sees the market. It's been three years of other D tackles signing and resetting that market. He's just seeing that number go. Yesterday's price is not today's price is real life going on in the football and National Football League. And when you see these players are like this, no like 20 million sounds good to you, but another dude in my same position is making 40 and I think I should be right around.

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[Joe]

That because this is my last time to get this guaranteed money to get that contract to where no matter when you say guarantee, when no matter if something happens to me, I can get chopped, I won't get another deal. There's no more money coming forward. So then they can start using that against me. So when you say, I think the

[Debo]

biggest thing for him is the fact that it is no more guaranteed. Yeah, no, for sure that's the biggest thing for him. You know, I think the top guy is maybe, like, maybe 5 or 6 million higher than him.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Or no, take it back. Maybe closer to 12 now. Think about it. But his range would be closer to 5, 6, 7 million higher, you know. But the big thing is he has nothing left as far as a guarantee. And the last year's deal is like 15 or 16 million on that. On that last year. So, yeah. Yo, show me or let me go get it somewhere else.

[Joe]

I'm not mad. I'm not mad at it. I'm not surprised by it. Hopefully they could figure something out. But when you see players do this, I don't. I'm not surprised when you see good players.

[Debo]

Guess who did it. Guess who did it last year. The other year, brother. Last year? I think it was last year. Was it last year? Yeah, it was last year. Guess who did it last year.

[Joe]

Was it.

[Debo]

He had no guaranteed paper, like, hey, let me go. But, oh, you know what to pay me. And you want to guarantee this right here? Yeah. Okay, I got you.

[Joe]

So we've been talking about a good man, you know, Cam is trying to figure out what's going on with the bread last year. Like, just when you feel like you're out playing your deal, you see other contracts happening in the same spot. And the NFL is not for long. What have you done for me lately? They'd be ready to take a cut if you wasn't doing good. Yes. I'm trying to go get that dough. If I'm outperforming my stuff.

[Debo]

No question, bro. I have no problem with it. I'm all for it. I want to see more of it. Can't stop thinking about it. Don't want to see it in Pittsburgh, though. What? I'll play. Y' all play under your contract. I'm a fan, though.

[Joe]

No, because we. Look. We. They're not. Look, that's the other thing. Don't ask for no restructures then. You know what I'm saying? Either way you all going. I'm not going to ask for a restructure, and y' all don't ask for a restructure. If I have a good season, all right? Everything's good. If my season wasn't as good as it was. It's averages. Laws are averages. Like, we signed this deal at the beginning, and I got me for four. You're going to get what you going to get. I'm going to give you my best every single year. It may not be this every time. I'm gonna get. Boom. It might go a little bit. Okay? Don't worry. We're not gonna tell you. You gotta take no money off. Hopefully that thing get back up to what it's supposed to be. Okay, listen.

[Debo]

The owner started this when they started asking for pay cuts. Y' all signed a man to a contract. Then y' all want to tell him, oh, you ain't play good enough. Take a pay cut. So don't be surprised when he done outplayed his contract. He's not gonna pay race.

[Joe]

Shoot. That's the only thing I'm saying. I'm not like, yes, I want here.

[Debo]

I want to hear. Look here. What I'm finding a little confusing, though, is the Vikings won't begin the GM search until after the draft. Why is that? Why do you think that is, bro? Like, what makes you. Huh.

[Joe]

So.

[Debo]

So you won't.

[Joe]

So this is what the only. My only question would be, is this, who will be the. Is the head coach or the owner, the ones picking the players? Who wants to be in control then instead of the gm that's normally the person that kind of does that stuff. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Debo]

So I guess it's going to be the head coach, and I would think the owner that would be making the calls. I guess right now they got a temporary gm. I can't. I cannot pronounce that name, but okay,

[Joe]

they got a temp GM right now.

[Debo]

Let's call him Kombucha. K A K A M. I don't know what that name is. Nope. I ain't about to mess it up. I ain't even about to mess it up. Joe. Try that name, Joe.

[Joe]

They ain't even put it on mine.

[Debo]

They just said, no, no, no, no. Hit the, hit the, hit the, hit the, hit the, hit the dock, man. Try that name, brother. I Can't. I can't get that one. I can't get. I ain't gonna try that one. But my thing is this.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

You're expecting a GM to come in and agree with whatever it is y' all picked and then have to take, I guess, responsibility for that and not have any say or knowledge of the process that led to it. I don't understand that.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

So you got to give him leeway. So if y' all do good, you gotta give him leeway.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Ever get that GM job, make sure y' all sign for, like, seven years.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

You need a good three to fold before you get people in place that you need to make sure you can have the players you want to start developing. Yeah, that's what I just started picking and picking up guys that are already established.

[Joe]

Yeah. I'm who. Not just who's making it. It just doesn't make any sense to me, honestly.

[Debo]

Like, yeah, I'm lost, brother.

[Joe]

You just gonna kind of. You kind of putting somebody out to dry in one way, or you're letting him know that, man, you got some leeway. Cause these ain't the players you pick. So it's a little bit of. A little bit of both. I just want to know whoever does pick the players, who. Who's.

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[Joe]

Who's gonna be the one that's gonna be able to. Who's. Who's deciding? Cause I wanted you. I never. Like when you don't know, so you never know who to blame. You never know who's able to point the finger to. This is who you pick. This is why you picked them. Okay. Now you can at least stand on from this success. Now the GM wants me to take all the success.

[Debo]

Yeah, they were.

[Joe]

They were good. What a. What a great, great draft class. But if they're not good, anybody just. Oh, no, that wasn't me.

[Debo]

I don't.

[Joe]

I don't have nothing.

[Debo]

There's no way they can. Yeah. You can't even put this on him. You can't. You already saying you're not gonna hire a dude till after the draft. So basically, the dude that come in has to be in agreeance with who you drafted, because he can't come in there and be like, you know what? I wouldn't have picked this dude up. But they did. But, like, you can't.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. So after the search, they got to just be like this. Whoever y' all got. Yeah, I'm all with. That's who I would have picked.

[Debo]

Right? Oh, yeah. I liked all these. Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, man. God. Great. Great pick.

[Debo]

I'm stepping into, you know, already made, you know, spot and all I gotta do is. Is going here and getting. Nah.

[Joe]

Yeah, your board is my board.

[Debo]

Right. You know what? Wow. As I was applying for this job, I was, I was, I was looking at who you guys drafted. And you know what, it was identical to who. I was thinking about where I was thinking about getting them.

[Joe]

I'm telling you. You're talking about studying for a job with all the answers. You got the answers to the test right there.

[Debo]

Those are your favorite places I might go for. Gm, what they paying over there with for the Vikings, man? What the gym making over there, man? I know I can go make me a peanut.

[Joe]

It ain't peanuts.

[Debo]

Hey, it ain't peanuts.

[Joe]

Any peanuts on, that's for sure.

[Debo]

I need something to keep the lights on, you know what I'm saying? I'm over here bad. Down here bad, man.

[Joe]

Now you a liar.

[Debo]

Wi fi, you know, Wi fi going out, all that. You know, I can't get good service sometimes.

[Joe]

That's. That's just the weather. That's just the weather sometimes knocking it out.

[Debo]

I ain't gonna lie, Joe. Maybe I ain't paid my bills on time. I mean, no money wasn't coming in. You know it wasn't coming in. What happened with yours, Joe? No tight. I know yours wasn't about no money. Yeah, I know you always look here, man.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Debo]

The Masters. Look at the Masters, brother. Look at the massive prices on these burgers, man, on all this food. How. Why is this food so cheap? That's crazy.

[Joe]

I've been to the Masters one time and couldn't believe.

[Debo]

Most expensive sport ever got these prices.

[Joe]

Hey, great.

[Debo]

Why don't the NFL give us no prices like this, man? Why don't the football game give us no price like this, man? I give, I give, I give me some. What is that? Pork barbecue. Some pulled pork right there, brother. Look here. Put that up there. Build your ten dollar order at the ma. Ten dollars, bruh. Ten dollars. You can't get a water? I don't think for ten dollars at an NFL game, bro, did this maybe a water.

[Joe]

It's. It was. It was actually amazing how cheap this stuff was. They do a great job by that, Debo.

[Debo]

Why is that, Joe?

[Joe]

I. I don't.

[Debo]

I don't.

[Joe]

They. I don't. They must make so much money for the tickets or the people to get in the Masters that they really not. They really not.

[Debo]

They ain't trying to Grab the little stuff. They get sponsorships and all that right there. They ain't trying to rob the fan. That's just trying to come and see somebody play some golf, huh?

[Joe]

They just want you to come in there and you can't bring yourself a good time.

[Debo]

Bring the family, be able to eat, drink.

[Joe]

And there's no cell phones. There's no cell phones on property. So everybody there. You are just there in the moment, chilling. Nobody got no phones, no phones. That was into it.

[Debo]

You ain't up there trying to.

[Joe]

Nobody's following. Nobody can't be doing that. Nobody's on the thing. You in the moment. It's one of the best experiences. I went to Debo, and just. It being cheap, it just makes it like, dang, this is what it's all about. They not trying to. They're not trying to just. They're not trying to rob us.

[Debo]

You gotta be quiet, though, Joe. I don't know if I can do that.

[Joe]

You can do what?

[Debo]

Be quiet. You know he's going to swing. He's swinging right now. You can't talk in his back swing right now. He's about to. He's got about six.

[Joe]

It's. No, no, it's just at the light, it's. They're not. They not swinging back to back to back to back. So it's like this. Like, just calm down for a second. You swing, and then you could react to it. And we're chilling. We're watching. Good shot. And you got you another three minutes until when the dude goes behind, he's about to hit. They throw their hands up like this. And then that's when we got back.

[Debo]

That's when you shut up.

[Joe]

That's because.

[Debo]

All right. No, no, See, I can't take that. You ain't about to be telling me, shut up.

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no. See, they're gonna say, shut up.

[Debo]

I'm gonna get throughout the Masters, baby. No.

[Joe]

Well, we had so much fun, though. But you go post up.

[Debo]

Is the master the same place every year, Joe?

[Joe]

Every single. Every year at the same exact place. Augusta, Georgia.

[Debo]

Augusta, Georgia.

[Joe]

Beautiful.

[Debo]

We might have the beautiful golf course.

[Joe]

The most beautiful golf course in the world I seen. And we just walking on it, chilling, looking like. Because now I'm really in the golf. And that spot was unbelievable.

[Debo]

Maybe Tiger will be back next year. By then, who knows?

[Joe]

Man, look, when I was there, Tiger was there, but he was limping. I think it was 20, 22. And he just got out of something, and it just looked hard for him to walk a little bit.

[Debo]

Yeah, he probably limping right now, too.

[Joe]

He definitely.

[Debo]

Oh, yeah, he.

[Joe]

Oh, I didn't get to talk to you about that. He was looking tricky.

[Debo]

Hey, he said, yeah, I was just on the phone with the president.

[Joe]

Just on the phone.

[Debo]

Me sent me.

[Joe]

I took off the phone with Donnie.

[Debo]

Hey, man, put the prices back up, man. I need Joe to give me that ten dollar order at the Masters, man.

[Joe]

Oh, the ten dollar order at the Masters, man. I'm going with the.

[Debo]

What's your sandwich, brother?

[Joe]

My, my. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I ain't gonna lie. Pork barbecue.

[Debo]

I'm with you.

[Joe]

Yep. And you know, second row, breakfast. I'm. I'm a breakfast sandwich, but I'm a. I'm honestly, I'm a sausage, egg and cheese. But if they got bacon, egg and cheese, I could. I'll do it. But I'm a. First and foremost, I'm gonna go sausage, egg and cheese. I might go sauce, bacon, egg and cheese. But I mean, I'm gonna go the breakfast sandwich. So we send the sex. And then I'm gonna go chips. I'm gonna go chips on some chill.

[Debo]

Because what you gonna lie to you

[Joe]

Gonna go chocolate chips.

[Debo]

I'm with you on the first two, Joe. But I really ain't chipped. I. I just ain't tripping. I started to say chipping. I really ain't tripping on the snack because it ain't really nothing there. That's really jumping out at me. Listen, I'd rather. I'd rather go and get me a iced tea and a water.

[Joe]

Oh, see, that's what. Okay, no, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do two. I'm gonna do two waters because I don't really like. I don't really do too much. I see. I'm gonna do double hydration with a breakfast sandwich and a pulled pork. Because the breakfast sandwich, hopefully, you know,

[Debo]

they doing that sweet tea down there, not a Joseph.

[Joe]

Okay. No, no, that's a fact. That's a fact. But I'm gonna still double water it. I'm gonna double water it.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah. Smooth. Hey, Joe, what up?

[Debo]

They got a $50 cheese sandwich. Pimento cheese. What is that?

[Joe]

Pimento cheese. See, everybody was talking.

[Debo]

You should know cheese.

[Joe]

I mean, everybody.

[Debo]

I didn't nothing, Joe. But that's how you know this is. This is a Joe. This is a little.

[Joe]

This is a little different.

[Debo]

It's a lighter event.

[Joe]

It's.

[Debo]

Yeah, it ain't a such thing as a cheese sandwich where I'm from, it's

[Joe]

just, it's just like. It's basically it's, you know, real light. It's like almost like, like little bites.

[Debo]

I heard of a grilled cheese.

[Joe]

Yeah, I heard of a Support for

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[Joe]

Man, this is my first time hearing a pimento cheese sandwich. Yeah, I ain't going to lie, no disrespect. Was not the biggest fan of the pimento cheese.

[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

What I really want to get to, though.

[Joe]

You want some wine?

[Debo]

No, I ain't trying to get. I ain't trying. I ain't trying to get to the wine. I don't like the white wine. I'm, you know, I like when I was younger, before I, my, my Palette, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah, I was a research. You were a dessert. Dessert wine, you know, Boom's Farm.

[Debo]

You know what I'm saying? Joe, let me tell you about this, dude. I had a birthday party, right? I had my 30th birthday party, dude. So I done bought this wine collection, dude. So I didn't got into. Or was it 40? I think it was my 40th birthday. Take it back. It was my 40th birthday party, so I didn't gotten to this, you know, I didn't got into the wine thing. You know, it's tasting good, all that, right? Yeah, bruh, when I say I got red wine, dude, like, I got. I got. I got Petrus or people called Protruse. Like, I got. I got wine.

[Joe]

Yeah. And I.

[Debo]

You know, and I'm having my 40th. So I invited a few people, whatever. Got my family there, man. I got all this wine out. I gotta lay there to serve the wine. All this, dude, I. I got, dude. Like, you name it, bro. You know, everything. Everything, bro. Everything. And I'm talking you. Your bottom. Your bottom bottle might have been 250, 300. Your top bottle was around four or five grand, right?

[Joe]

Yep, yep, yep. There you go, talking. You got that good bag.

[Debo]

That's how I went broke. Let me get back. That's what. That's what happened, Joe. That's how I went broke. I ain't got no money now.

[Joe]

All right, bro. Bro.

[Debo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sitting up here and, you know, I'm trying to do a little fancy thing, man. I got my homeboys that. That got a little taste. Oh, man, this is hitting, man. I got, you know, I got. I got. I got. I got French Bordeaux. I got everything, Joe. Everything.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

And my people, of course, my people. Oh, this nasty. This tastes. Hey, for real. Oh, this nasty. Tastes terrible, right? So I'm like, man, y' all don't know what. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

I'm trying to swivel it a little bit. So hold on.

[Debo]

All of a sudden, bro, I hear they talking about, oh, this good. This real good, man. It's real good. So I'm like, what they talking about? I'm like, hey, what y' all like? What y' all like, right? So I.

[Joe]

They like.

[Debo]

It's this one right here. So I go over to the, you know, the lady I got serving them. I'm like, which one they like? Which one they like, bruh? These. These people. These people don't went into the refrigerator and grabbed a big Bottle like this, right? Yeah, it's barefoot. Chardonnay something, dude.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

She did not even have it on the table. She was serving it from underneath. Because she was like, I just didn't think you wanted it up there. Hell, no, I don't want it up there. You know, I'm like, what are they drinking? And she's like. I'm like, which one they drinking? So I'm looking. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking at the white burgundies and all that. She's like. And she pulled it out from under. She's like, it's this. I'm like, these. These people don't went into the refrigerator, bro, and grabbed like 2/2 gallons of Bones Farm or something. Barefoot, something like that, right? It's barefoot. That's what it was. It's barefoot, bro. It's sweet. It's. It's, it's. It's, you know, it's your bottom, brother. They killed that.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

And then they was mad it was no more. I said, man, y' all could run your ass to the store and get that for 5.99. And you know what they did?

[Joe]

They went right to the store. Got it. Telling you, Debo, that's actually hilarious.

[Debo]

They talking about, I don't know why he got this nasty ass wine out here. Don't nobody want this. Yeah,

[Joe]

I'm telling you, it'd be like that family and wine, though, like you said. You were like that at the beginning. You were only drinking the whites. Yes, he was only drinking the whites. The same with me. The Riesling, the bubbly, the dessert wines. And then you start like, oh, man, this is too sweet. And then you start getting.

[Debo]

Yo, when you come here, man, we go have to try this. This. This nice little dessert wine I got for you, man. I got, I got. I got. I got a little bottle that. That shot told to Kim. I got an 86.

[Joe]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. There we go.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm remind you. Don't worry.

[Debo]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I know, I know you like wine, so you know what I'm saying? I. You know, I ain't too on the sweet stuff, but you know what I'm

[Joe]

saying, you know, you know, more.

[Debo]

If you ain't on the sweet stuff, then we ain't got to go there.

[Joe]

I'm on the sweet stuff.

[Debo]

I got a little bit. I got. I gotta. It ain't that old. Maybe I got maybe like a couple bottles of the 2004, like, came. I'm not cameras, but the okay, There we go.

[Joe]

That's what I'm talking about. Elizone. Yes, sir.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay, I got it.

[Debo]

I got it on the rummage sale.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Yep, sure did.

[Debo]

159, Joe. $59, Joe. Let's hit the super chat real quick, Joe. We got, you know, we got covenant, like $10. She stayed with us. She stayed with us. She said, james. Oh, well. Do you know your co host, Joe, was the first true freshman in Florida Gator history to start at cornerback on opening day? Which team did they play? She's asking me or she's asking you,

[Joe]

then she asking you, but I don't know. You don't know?

[Debo]

She asking me. How well do I know Joe? I know which team he played.

[Joe]

Ain't no way.

[Debo]

Another pole.

[Joe]

See?

[Debo]

Children of the Po. Joe, hold up. Your very first game, right?

[Joe]

Very first game.

[Debo]

Warm up game. Yes, Warm up game. Okay. So it wouldn't be a divisional game, out of conference. Did you pay him to come there?

[Joe]

Obviously.

[Debo]

Okay. It better not be Kent State.

[Joe]

No, hold up.

[Debo]

Do you know who it is? You looking it up, Joe?

[Joe]

I don't know who it was. I think it might be Western.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe don't know himself, Joe don't know himself.

[Joe]

I think it was Western Michigan, though, if I had to just really guess. I thought it was Western Michigan, but I still didn't get it. Ask Covenant Life who it was.

[Debo]

Covenant Life. Who was it? Put it in the chat. I'm looking for it right now. Look for it, Joe. She know who it is.

[Joe]

She definitely know who it is.

[Debo]

Oh, I'm gonna go to the next one. She sent another $10. She said, Joe, do you know James, 2007, breakout game against the Ravens. Had three and a half sacks, three forced fumbles, but also recorded a famous tackle on a punt return in that game. Who was this hall of Famer, Reed. That's easy, man. That's all over tv.

[Joe]

And that's the one. You hit him, made him fumble. The ball flew in the air.

[Debo]

Yeah. You saw that?

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we just talked about that game the other day when we was on with coach. Did we talk about that?

[Joe]

Man, coaches talking about how you was rocking people on special teams. That's all he say. The specifics of when and who.

[Debo]

Yeah. Come to life. Said it was Western.

[Joe]

It was Western.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

No, I knew. I knew it was Western. I promise you. I didn't get to see it, but yeah, Western Kentucky, because they wasn't scary.

[Debo]

You said Michigan.

[Joe]

No, I didn't. I said Western. Kentucky. But the only thing was the real game that I remember was. I think it was my third. Like, my third game when we played Tennessee, that's when she got real. Because when we played West Kentucky, our team was way bigger than their team. I'm like, okay, this isn't really looking cool. Tennessee came in there and was looking just about the same size as our team.

[Debo]

So I was like, oh, okay, okay, we got second now. Damn.

[Joe]

Yeah, I looked. I was like, man, they linemen look victim weight on west of Kentucky. This might not get. This might get ugly for them.

[Debo]

Oh, man. Come to life. Back again, $10, she said, please. Remember, it's Augusta. Bougie in the middle of the ghetto. Thanks again for a memorable episode yesterday. I watched it a lot. If Troy coming, let me know now so I can fix my hair.

[Joe]

You a funny one.

[Debo]

I mean. I mean, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in talks with Troy, but y' all know Troy is not really a person that likes too much of the limelight. I may have to give up, you know, maybe one of my first bonds or something, you know.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Debo]

You know, just to get the man on the show. I'm working on it, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'm gonna have to either give up one of my kids, one of my animals, one of my reptiles. I'm gonna have to give up something, you know what I'm saying? So I might have to give up Mango. Okay, Drag. I may have to. I don't know if you want Kevin. Kevin. A snake. I don't know how you feel about snakes. Maybe my dog, maybe. I don't know. We'll see. I'll give him James, but I don't think he gonna want James, so, you know, I'll let you know in time. Enough. Get your head dead, though, you hear?

[Joe]

A thousand percent. I'm gonna let you know, because we gotta get some. What's the name? We gotta get the Browns in here, too. So I already. Yeah, I'm gonna let you know, but Brown's a little.

[Debo]

Who we do have coming in here on Friday.

[Joe]

Who.

[Debo]

Wide receiver Michael Pittman Jr. Is scheduled to be with us.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Debo]

So y' all make sure y' all don't miss no Friday, Okay, I like that. Yes, sir. Hey, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Debo]

Yep. I mean, you could talk to Joe Thomas and, you know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

But don't. Don't say nothing, you know, about. Just don't bring up. I might have called him because he's a Joe when things was kind of sketchy in Mexico. So I hadn't. I hadn't. I hadn't called him back and let him know that, you know, it wasn't going to happen. So he might. Might bring that up. But I just wanted to give you, you know, let you know that I had called him. And did you reach out Debo and Joe? I had to hit all the Joes up. You know what I'm saying? And that was like a perfect, you know what I'm saying, To keep the Browns.

[Joe]

Keep the Browns going. I mean, and then, like I said

[Debo]

right there, we had you in the middle, you know, I didn't.

[Joe]

If I didn't make it, that was the perfect Joe.

[Debo]

I just. Just wanted to let you know.

[Joe]

Yeah, for sure. I appreciate that. I appreciate you letting know.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Debo]

Yeah. Look here, man. We want to thank y' all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your show. We will be back here Friday with Michael Pittman Jr. Newly acquired receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Joe]

Joe, love it. Well, I see y' all on Friday, same place, same time. Let's get it and we out.

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[Joe]

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