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Deebo
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Deebo
Speaking of betting, I see that the NFL Pennsylvania report cards the NFL day one. And it rude that the NFLP cannot publicize the team report cards. J.J. watt said the NFL won't let actual players grab the grade the workplace they attend every single day but will allow the third party grading service to display their rankings of players on national TV every Sunday night. How you feel about this, bro?
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Joe
That's what I'm saying. JJ Speaking facts we getting our Pro Football Focus grade every week. That looks trash like 30. I'm like man, get the Pro Football Focus ranking out of there. And and then for this the actual players, we were doing a good job. I think we're being blatantly honest like the Browns facilities nice good. Like I'm like, dang, this is really nice. College football is just crushing the NFL and all their facilities and all of that stuff. Cause they know that the recruiting they have to do, that Pittsburgh facilities trash. But when I went there, I wasn't mad. I was like, it is what it is. We winning. We understand the main thing is. The main thing. You got the hot tubs, you got a daggone cafeteria, you got a weight room, and you got fields. So you got what we have what we need. We got meeting rooms. We got what we need. But it looks trapped in here, you know what I'm saying? So when you at Florida, when you go to these high spaces, like, we're gonna keep it honest. Like, when I went there, I was telling my. Oh, no, it's not that. It gets it done. But when you go to Cleveland, when you go to Vegas, the new stuff, they know that's what. You make so much money there that you want to take care. You gotta be able to take care of your.
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Deebo
Hold up, man. Cleveland got a C, Pl, bro.
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Joe
I'm gonna tell you that. Maybe not everything, but I'm saying the facilities was cool.
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Deebo
Please show these grades. Please show these grades. Yes. Y' all gotta. Dolphins got an A plus, though. I want to see their facility.
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Joe
See eight Dolphins, Chargers, Falcons.
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Deebo
I've been the Steelers and the Patriots, though, for real.
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Joe
Yeah.
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Deebo
That's crazy.
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Joe
Cowboys.
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Deebo
I ain't gonna lie. They correct. They correct. They correct. Like the Bengals. Unless they did something new.
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Joe
Oh, man, the Bengals. That's what I'm saying. I thought they do something lower than the seat.
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Deebo
Yeah. I don't know how they got to see, bro. Cause they was. They was below. They was below Steelers when I was there. Unless they did something new.
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Joe
I think you should let the. You got to let the players go in there and give their honest grades, because you in there, you in the spots, you see what it is. And I don't think a lot of the players. We're not being, like. I don't think overly, like, bougie, but you know what I'm saying? Just trying to get.
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Deebo
They just don't want they dirty. They dirty laundry.
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Joe
Don't want they dirty laundry out there. They don't want they. They stuff out there. They're not spending the money on and making it. Making it as good as they could. As good as they can.
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Deebo
Yeah. But I think if it's not out there, like you said last time they came out, people adjusted. Yes. Because they didn't want to be the people at the bottom of Facilities. And when it comes down to it, it's not that only one person can get an A.
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Joe
Yes.
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Deebo
Only one person can get a B. Yo, raise your facilities up and you will be able to get. You know what I'm saying? You'll be able to get a better grade.
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Joe
Yep.
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Deebo
When they come down to it, when you go from the college, like, big D ones, bro, and what, get into the NFL, them boys be so sick when they get there. I'll be like, yeah, this ain't. This ain't the same thing, brother.
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Joe
They couldn't sniff.
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Ryan Seacrest
It's a.
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Joe
Like Florida Gators facilities when I was there was crazy. And since I went back, I'm like, oh, it's a.
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Ryan Seacrest
It's.
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Joe
It's like you're. It's an amusement park. They got whatever you need there. You know what I'm saying? It's pools, like, I'm talking about. Not just lap pools, real pools with cabanas that you come there and kick it. I'm like, how do you have this at the facility? A pool that you come and kick it with? You bring the homies to the pool at the facility. This is crazy. Anything, food, steaks, everything is top notch anytime you want it, like, for free. So college, they do a great job of that recruit. And they putting money into it because they know, like, you gonna get in what you put out, you gonna get the best players to come. NFL, you. You're gonna go. You're gonna go play where you at regardless. But free agents and all that, it's not a bad gig. Now, like, I want to go somewhere where guys. It's nice, right?
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Deebo
Everybody want to go somewhere where it's.
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Joe
Nice, Joe, you know, But I realized something. So, see, that's the crazy.
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Deebo
It wasn't that you won't win, though.
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Joe
But at the same time, when you think about the owners, they like this. What it would matter. I'm trying to win if they got the facilities. You have weights there. They're weights. They might not be brand new, but they're weights. You got the little jones there. So, like, that's where. With the owners, you looking at them like, man, what is it really about? Is it a fashion show? You want me to put the money into this?
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Deebo
Well, when it comes down to it, like, they got a revolving door players coming and going. So it's not like you gotta go and compete with another school to have the better facilities. So that when they come on a visit, they'd be like, you know what? I wanna come here because I see this going on over here, you know, and that's something that the NFLPA really needs to have, you know, have part in. You got. You got Cam Jordan. And he said, bruh, A third of the time I get upset at the NFL. I remind myself a majority of the players accepted or didn't vote during the last CBA after we had a resounding no vote in the preliminary voting for the nflpa. So what he's talking about is the system of how the NFL PA worked when they went through their process. So this is the problem. So I think it's. What was it? The matter of fact, I'm gonna show a clip. The 2026 NFLPA Pro super bowl press conference. Okay. Okay. Nobody wrote about it, nobody talked about. You ain't hear nothing about it. But what I hear is Jalen Reeves Mabin. And in 21, he was a player rep, and then in 24, he became the president of the players associate, the NFLPA, after being voted in by the NFLPA, NFLPA executive committee in 2022. But listen to this, though.
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
There was some differing opinions about whether there was too much confidentiality if the players didn't have enough information leading up to it. How do you balance keeping things private but also making sure your guys are better informed this time around so they can make a better decision with the election? Where would you say those opinions were coming from?
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Deebo
Players?
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
Okay, yeah, I think that I was a part of the process last time, and I think that, you know, there was a lot of updates given to the leadership and the membership representation. Like I said, There. There's 2,000 members of. We have 2,000 members. And, you know, we're not. We're not broadcasting information to 2,000 members every time about what's going on. But, you know, we've. We keep the. The leadership and the voted board reps abreast of what's going on. And this year, you know, we've. We've tried to do that to an even deeper level and, you know, provided probably about monthly. Monthly updates. Everyone was. Not everyone, but a lot of players, former players, staff members, were kind of surveyed and interviewed and polled before this, this process kicked off to, you know, really see what everyone's looking for, especially the players. What do they want to see in the next executive director. And I think we've done a good job engaging and being responsible to our players. Now, you know, well, after this process, will everybody, everyone be happy? Maybe not. What everyone felt like they were heard. Maybe not. But for myself and for the executive committee, I Know that we put in the work and been thorough and kept integrity to the highest with this process as well as the last process. So, you know that that's where we stand on. And, you know, as long as we come out of that room knowing that. That we did right by our membership, that, you know, that's. That's kind of our. That's our ring. We. We got that, and we're all good.
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Deebo
Joe, that is not even the clip that I want to play. But let's go through the process of that. Get your together, people. I'm talking to y'.
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Host/Announcer
All.
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Deebo
I'm not talking to anybody but the people that's in the background of our screens right now. Get your together.
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Joe
What y' all need to do.
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Deebo
Here's the issue, man.
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Joe
What's the issue?
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Deebo
There's no transparency in the process, okay? The NFL executive committee themselves is what Cam is talking about. Cam Jordan Committee didn't even make a recommendation, meaning they didn't even vote. Okay? The process is not transparent. Nobody knows what is going on. And he's okay with, you know, how the process is going. Who said this? Who said that? Like, we've been saying this forever. All right? And that's the. The part that's a. A larger issue with the NFLPA is the NFLPA now is ran by 32 representatives, okay. Who represent almost, what, 2,000 something players or more, actually, when it comes time for the voting. It's almost 3,000 players when it comes time for the voting. Okay. But more Importantly is the 11 executive committee members who are guys like Maven Hennessy. It's a whole list of them. Cam Hayward is actually one of them.
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Joe
Cam's one.
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Deebo
Yes, yes.
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Deebo
He's actually a rep and an executive committee member. Okay. He's also. What's his name? Calais Campbell. He's another one of them. It's 32 of these guys. Okay.
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Joe
Okay.
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Deebo
And these 32 guys represent the vote. So when we originally voted, the 32 reps would come to us, and then they would say, okay, what are you guys votes? We would vote, and then that would go like that. But now it is made that it goes to the 32 reps and they vote. And there is no overhead of who did what, who voted to what is not even brought to the players anymore. It's the reps. Now add that on top of the 11 executive committee members actually make the decision of who gets to be put in as a possibility to be a executive director. Now, all of that was changed in after 2011. When D. Smith almost lost because he barely won, he changed the rules so that he could keep position and power. Okay. Because it's gonna be easier to control 32 than it is to control 2 or 3,000. And then in that 32, he only needs 17. Okay, so I got a question.
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Joe
What's the difference? Okay, we got 32, then we got 11. And so the 11. Does 11 people switch at all or do they stay?
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Deebo
The 11, I believe can switch or may have to switch at times depending on like how long they've played or not played. Okay, but of that I ain't gonna lie. I'm not actually 100% sure, but I know right now. Maven. No, Jalen Reeves, Maven, he is the president right now of that organization. Okay.
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Joe
Okay.
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Deebo
You don't even know who the hell he is?
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Joe
No.
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Deebo
You've never heard of him?
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Joe
No.
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Deebo
He was voted in by the 11 executive committee members that make those rulings. Like no player voted him in. Now here's the bigger issue is no players get to vote. It's just the 32. Now the bigger issue is the 11. They bring the executive directors that get approved, they send them to an outside source. Now a third party, they get approved by this third party.
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Deebo
Party they then send them back to the executive committee. Now the executive committee can pick who it is that they actually want to put in front of the 32 player reps that represent the teams. The player. They never actually go to the players anymore. When we did it in 2011, it went to the players D. Smith almost lost. He said, you know what? Let me change this. Here's another issue. It's always done in the preseason. Why is it done in the preseason? You got a whole almost 90 players.
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Joe
On each Dudes is not really going to be there anyway.
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Deebo
The dudes that's not going to be there. So you got 3000 players voting for something that only 1700 of them will actually be there on the roster. Okay. And of that, 1700 of that group, Joe, only about 700 of them are actually vested. That's a program because what, just three.
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Joe
And a half years? Four years.
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Deebo
Four years, four games before you're vested?
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Joe
Yep.
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Deebo
So the NFLPA needs to set a standard that you cannot vote on the CBA if you aren't vested unless you fail.
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Joe
That'll make everything a lot easier.
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Deebo
The NFL knows this damn well. As well as just the NFL, pa. But they're not going to change it because half of these cats in the NFL, Pennsylvania are fighting to get a job either in the NFL, Pennsy, or transition over to the NFL. All right? And you got young players coming in and you telling me they first year they're going to vote to not approve it? Hell no, they not. And on top of that, money management skills for a first, second year player are horrible. Like, so it's going to be people who are going to vote for that. Yeah.
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Joe
But they can't hold out.
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Deebo
No question. At that same time they say, you know what, we still go take that away. And now they gave it to the 32 members. Now, if you go and you want to see who they voted for, you can't see it because there's no public record. But you could ask your rep who he voted for. He could also lie to you and tell you he voted for somebody that he didn't vote for. So there is no transparency anywhere in this process. If the NFL, Pennsylvania really wants to do what's best for their players and make real change, this is what needs to be done. You have to only let vested players vote people who are into the program. That's like me letting my, my son go and vote on something that he has that has no bearing on what happens to him. And like you said, the average NFL career is what, three and a half years?
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Joe
Three and a half years.
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Deebo
Most of these dudes ain't even gonna make it there. But they need him to get it, to get some of this stuff to pass. So with the nomination committee being the people who actually. I mean, sorry. With the executive committee being the people who actually nominate the executive directors, I'll be looking for my nomination for executive director of the nflpa, like Cam Hayward. Who is in. Who is in nominee. Oh, sorry. Who is a committee member and a rep. And I also talked to Calais Campbell. We had a conversation. So I'll be looking forward to my nomination to be on the ballot to be executive director of the nflp. I thank you Guys, in advance. Okay. Oh, the march meetings is coming up, and it was actually no update on the timeline of that at the super bowl either. But, you know, Maven is doing such a great job, and he, you know, he's doing, you know, so much, and he feels like he's, you know, he's doing what's necessary and giving the guys what they want.
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Joe
I don't.
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Deebo
I don't feel like that. I don't feel like that's the case. I feel like he's doing a bum job of being a. The president. I feel like just like hell you did a bum job. You're still doing a bum job being a player.
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Joe
Debo. I think some of the smartest things you said, though, was the vested players need to be the ones to vote. The players not even being able to vote now with the 32, we got to get that back. And then all these executive committees and all that, we got to keep that open. Because if it's for the players and it's for what's best for the players, you gotta let them see what's going on. And it needs to be not no other little. We pick this, and then a small little group ends up, decides what it really is.
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Deebo
We don't even get to pick no more as the players. That's it.
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Joe
So you made.
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Deebo
They don't even bring it to the players.
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Joe
Listen, vested players, like you said, we gotta bring it to the players that gotta come back. And then also you going through the right steps and making sure, like with Cam Hayward, with Calais, you need to be up and nominated. They need to be able to see, like, since you're going through the steps, put them up there and then let's see. Be able to get the votes. Cause, like, it just doesn't make any sense. It's too much little hidden stuff happening in the cut where it's like, no, if it's for the players, if it's for the best, then we need to put people that are promoting the best for the players and really going to get in here and be at Yalls next, like, fighting for the players. And the thing too, the vested players, when they can get in and they know a lot of these dudes, like you said, the young dudes, the first ones that are in not good with the money, they like, man, I don't care what y' all talking about. Like, I'm just trying to play. I need that check. Like, whatever we gotta do to make sure I'm playing when the season comes, as I'm trying To do the people that are in it a little bit longer already trying to more thinking ahead can better the game. I might be able to take this whole, this little setback right here because it's going to be better for the future, better for the upcoming of the game. So once you eliminate those votes of the non vested players, I'm with you that I think real, real change will happen and then just more openness of showing us the all that all these other executive branches and all these little committees inside of the NFL player NFLPA is crazy. It doesn't need to be that difficult. We need to be able to be open and like that's why you guys are here to protect us and we need to be able to vote and all that stuff. That's just. It gets gray and it gets like that's when you know oh it's not, it's not gray.
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Deebo
It's simple black and white.
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Joe
All you do but it's black and white. Yes, yes.
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Deebo
It's janky. It's very, it's janky. It's very easy to see and self explanatory. You worried about player safety. Everything is player safety, player safety. But you want to add another game, you want to go to 18. I told him when the player say the thing first start I said they want to get 17 games. Then found out they wanted to get 18. I said the whole process is to get to 18 games. And where we at right now, the big negotiation now is 18 games. You're negotiating the contract right now. That's not up to what, 20. Oh, sorry, what is it? 30, 28, 29, something 30. It's not, it's not even up to them. But they're in negotiations right now to try and get that done because they know that everybody and I, I won't say everybody but a majority of the people in the NFLPA are not there for the players. They're there for themselves. That's it, bro. There's no way around it. There's no sugar coating it. You just sat there and listened to the president give a. Who said that? What you mean who said. What are you talking about bro? You should already know that. Like what is. He.
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Joe
Didn'T look real presidential.
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Deebo
It never did. I went to the one. Not this year. Last year I went to that one and I'm sitting there and that was when they had. What's his name? I can't think his name right now. They got rid of him. He Lloyd Howe.
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Joe
Okay.
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Deebo
And I'm like yo, why is. Who is this. Why is this dude even up here? Like. And he's like, I ain't gonna say what he said. But basically, that wasn't supposed to be long term, okay? And then they promote this dude to president in. What was it, 24? Stop it. Executive. Stop it. Get out of here, bruh. Get out of here, man.
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Joe
Open it up. They wild.
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Deebo
And here's the crazy thing, bruh. And they're using the same process that they're questioning. Like, he's questioning. Do the players trust you? Do they believe you? That's what the question was. Oh, yeah. It's no. Change the process, because they don't. They're saying it. I believe that we're working hard. Who gives a damn what you believe? It ain't working hard. It ain't working. You're not even transparent with your process. I don't even know. March meeting is supposed to be whenever. They ain't even said if that's gonna happen. They even said what's going on with the process of electing people to actually be able to run for the executive director of the nflpa?
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Joe
It's like the interim on the stage.
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Deebo
Don't even know the guy that's acting this interim right now. Don't even know. Come on, bruh. We sound French and don't know shit.
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Joe
Yeah, he looked a little. Yes. He didn't look a little foggy. He looked very foggy.
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Deebo
That look bad as they all start dunk game. Joe.
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Joe
Oh, my God.
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Deebo
How do I.
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Joe
My man. God damn, James. He went up. He went up there, man, off the side of the backboard and hit his back. Hit his back of his head. I was so glad he had his bush. Yeah. That was not. That was not entertaining. The dunk contest was a little off. I just want all the best dunkers in it. Zion, get in the dunk contest. Like when we had my man that.
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Deebo
Played for Michael Jordan. And Michael Jordan, obviously, but even Zach on that thing.
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Joe
Even though the not too long ago, but we had Zach Lavine and then we just had McClung. McClung was saving us from the G League. I think we just need to get the best. The best talent. We need to get our jumpers. Our. Ja Morant. Ja Morant. Anthony Edwards, Zion, Wilmon, y' all get in it. And the dunk contest will be back. Crank. But let me talk about the All Star game. How about that, though, Deebo?
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Deebo
Okay.
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Joe
I thought the thing about the NBA, though, bro, is the reason why I didn't like the past previous joints. They wasn't really playing hard. All the NBA players gotta do.
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Joe
It's not football. It's not like you can just. You gotta run tackling, try to like, blitz, hit them low. No, you're playing good, solid defense. You're not like fouling O.C. you're playing hard. So you're not just giving away. You're not just opening up the lane. You're not just letting people drive by you. I love the way they start off wimby hot, trying to dunk on people, pinning people's shot on the backboard. Like, nah, like, I'm out here to go ball. And it was. It was. They did it. So it was world, Debo, where they had like all, like the. Did you watch the All Star game?
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Deebo
I ain't watch it, brother.
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Joe
All right, look, I'm about to tell you. I'm about to break it down. They did it.
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Deebo
Actually break it down for me.
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Joe
They did three teams, Debo. They did a world team where all of, like, Luka, Joker, Wemby, everybody from overseas. They did a stripes team, which was the OGs, Bron, KD, Curry, and then they did a stars team, which is the young all stars, Anthony Edwards, you know what I'm saying? And them. So they set it up dope. And the first game was the young stars versus the world. And it was like a round robin game. Everybody's gonna play each other a little bit, depending on how much you win, depends on who goes to the finals. The fourth quarter, and they do it 12 minute games. It's like 1/4. So you gonna get good bump for 12.
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Deebo
Y' all watch that, bro. I ain't know it was like that.
- [29:29]
Joe
Yes. So that joint, it was a. It was a new. New. New little structure that they did. So I ain't gonna lie. Adam Silver, the NBA, he cooked with this one. He cooked with the format. But you know who really cooked? The players cooked. Because if they weren't playing hard, if they weren't really like, trying to play defense, and it just was like a little layup game. Everybody's laying up. It just would have been boring. But the world versus the young all Stars, they start off Anthony Edwards going versus. Anthony Edwards is a G. He's a dog. He wants to whoop everyone no matter what. He's a goon. That's what he does. He plays basketball and he's great at it. So him versus Wemby. Wemby, 7 foot 6, one of the freakiest people I've ever seen in the world. And he's from overseas and he's like. He's feeling I'm the best player in the world too. So you get these young stars, bruh, that come and they're hungry. It's not like they just trying to be too cool. No, I'm not too cool. I'm strapping up. I'm blocking you. And I'm trying to win this joint. So you get to really watch the best players go against the best players and really play. And that's what made the joint so good. Braun and them came in there, they was playing, and everybody's trying to hoop. It got to the last game, so the world. We got them out the way. So the young.
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Deebo
You keep saying we.
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Joe
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Deebo
I got you. I got you. Home team. Home team Akron, Ohio. Here.
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Joe
We get to the finals and Bron and them gotta play against the young stars. They're tired. They go down 12 to 1. They got one quarter to play. It's the last one they've been playing. They got smacked. They got beat by 20 and Antigua ended up winning the damn. Winning the championship.
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Deebo
The gas tank was oe.
- [31:16]
Joe
So, yeah, everything went as planned until the last game. The last game was the worst a little bit because they was tied, but they just didn't play. The young stars whooped they ass. So all star game though. Fire. Debo. I just like the NBA because it's the players and it's just a little bit harder NFL. I mean. I mean, Rashawn Taylor.
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Deebo
So you telling me, Joe, what's up? The NBA got better and we went and flipped to a flag and we went.
- [31:40]
Joe
We. We went and flipped to them. We went and flipped the flag football. But I look at it because I'm like, NBA. They don't have to hurt each other, but they just really got to play.
- [31:52]
Deebo
Like we don't have to hurt each other.
- [31:53]
Joe
Now the little NFL, we could go back to when Sean Taylor just hit high, hit high in the chest and just don't be trying to die. But it's player safety Debo Deebo. But look how you want to. How you. I'm safety first everything. But look, the only way the Pro bowl was nice was when you had the best going versus the best fourth quarter.
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Deebo
Pro bowl got nice. Now it's a change in money, change of money. That's why it got competitive. You know all that. Oh, you gotta stay inside these cashes and all that. No somebody gonna get bought.
- [32:25]
Joe
We playing flag, man. I think we could do some more. We need to bring back the cool games though, from like the old school. If we gonna do the Pro bowl games, we need to bring back like the fastest player I know people would love to see. Who you think's the fastest Tyreek racing versus. You know what I'm saying? The fastest player joint or the longest throw. The quarterback who could throw the ball the farthest.
- [32:46]
Deebo
Listen, bro. Listen to me, bro. Speaking of Tyreek, we got some breaking news, brother. Your boy, eight time Pro Bowler receiver Tyreek Hill is being released on March 1st after. Dang. They released my boy after he dislocated his knee and tore his acl. He would be unstricted with free agent for the first time in his career, though.
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Joe
How long he gonna. How. How long is he out?
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Deebo
Dude, he just did it. What was that last game? Second to last game.
- [33:21]
Joe
Yeah. So he gonna be out for the season. We gonna have to just let him. Let him get. Let him get back together.
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Deebo
Oh, he got it. 32. 32.
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Joe
How long Tyreek been in there? Like 10?
- [33:37]
Deebo
I want to say maybe nine. Nine or 10? Yeah, something like that. Nine or 10.
- [33:41]
Joe
Okay. Yeah, you getting up there.
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
Damn.
- [33:45]
Deebo
Ah.
- [33:47]
Joe
Who you think? But yeah, he. He's 32. He's. But you know that. You know who's. You know who's signing Tyreek, you know who's signing Tyree? Who we did a fire. Fire team. That is all that. You can't be a young team. You can't be a young team. You can't be a team that's building. You just need it. You just need a piece. You need a piece. You need.
- [34:08]
Deebo
It's going to be hard, bro. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard, I think, because next year.
- [34:13]
Joe
Next year you're ready.
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Deebo
Next year, I would think.
- [34:16]
Joe
Not this season. After next.
- [34:19]
Deebo
That's a whole year out, Joe.
- [34:20]
Joe
I don't know. Yeah, you right. You know, I was just praying for the best. But you know how that is, Debo. When you get. You starting getting to the end and then you just did that and you making that bag.
- [34:33]
Deebo
Yeah, well, it ain't gonna be that bad. You know what I'm saying? I don't. I don't see you getting that bag after that, you know. You know how you hit that 30 mark? They like, oh, yeah, that's.
- [34:42]
Joe
That's what I'm saying. It's gonna be looking like that for him too. So when I'm saying Tyreek coming back and he. People gonna be not trying to offer him like, ho, ho, ho, what's going on? He might be like, if he was playing for 30 and they offered him five, he like, man, see, y' all bugging out.
- [34:59]
Deebo
I don't know. Maybe he. He up for reunion with Mahomes over there.
- [35:03]
Joe
Man, that. Yes, that's what I'm saying. He'll go there or New England. Go win the ship. Go show him that he's still like. Show him he's still that.
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Deebo
Yeah, for sure. Look at it, though.
- [35:13]
Joe
Olympics.
- [35:14]
Deebo
Listen, Joe. Oh, Lord.
- [35:16]
Joe
Listen, I saw this, bro. That was kind of.
- [35:18]
Deebo
Listen, I ain't saying nothing.
- [35:22]
Joe
You already know, man.
- [35:24]
Deebo
I ain't gonna say. I'm gonna say.
- [35:25]
Joe
I gotta say it because you gotta say something.
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Deebo
Okay? Now, the condo supply at the Olympics ran out because of higher than anticipated demand. Joe. What you. What you think about that? What you got to say about that? You tell me. Give me some. Give me some words. What you.
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Joe
Of age Consented adults protecting themselves is what I like.
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Deebo
That's it.
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
Yep.
- [39:20]
Deebo
I mean, look, listen, listen, Joe, you know I got my theories.
- [39:24]
Joe
It's a lot man. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot of it's cold out there. They're bundled, they're not chilling outside. There's a lot of snuggling up going on out there. There's a lot of, you know what I'm saying? Cuddling up by fire. It's a lot of friction. There's a lot of body heat, you guys.
- [39:37]
Deebo
Oh, let me get into. Let me get into my theater.
- [39:39]
Joe
Stay warm. They got to stay warm.
- [39:43]
Deebo
All right, listen, this is not a new thing, although it is semi new. I'm looking, and it's something new started. It's semi new. Semi new. It started in 1988. Okay. And I'm understanding they were promoting safe sex, and I think they were promoting safe sets because again, I'm assuming they may have been some athletes coming home with less than desirable. Things. And I'm just gonna say, you know, maybe some. Some. Maybe some athletes was coming home with STDs by the pound, okay? Bowsers, okay. By the pound.
- [40:33]
Joe
Lots by the pound. Is crazy to say.
- [40:37]
Deebo
I'm just saying it was. It was heavy, okay? I'm just. That's all I'm saying, Joe. Okay, listen, this is the other me, okay? I don't. Went back. I had to revert back to get on the subject, Joe. I'm sorry about that, Lord. Thank you.
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- [40:48]
Deebo
All right. Preach me. Listen, now this. I think this is what happens now. They ain't had no prophylactics, okay? Insight. And they were probably taking chances, okay? And you got young athletes at the prime of their career, you know, from all over the world, so bodies in the best shape they ever been in their life.
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- [41:08]
Joe
All that goddamn built up energy.
- [41:10]
Deebo
Oh, all that built up energy. All that make me want, you know, people, chill, chill.
- [41:18]
Joe
But then last, last one on that. I got one because it's my line for my man. Oh, safe. Because you don't. What you. Because you don't want that late text. Safe sex. But you better wear the late text because you don't want that late text. There we go.
- [41:39]
Deebo
All right, I got you on that now. Now listen. Now let me get back into my theory, Joe, okay? Okay. Now you got these athletes in the best shape of their life, bodies like they never seen before. And they done went through their events and they ain't got nothing else left to do, okay? And now you around all these. All these beautiful bodies from all over the world.
- [42:02]
Joe
Best in the world, Craig.
- [42:03]
Deebo
All over the world. And you don't. Hey, you.
- [42:06]
Joe
I never been. Never been. Never been.
- [42:10]
Deebo
Joe. And it was taking chances. So in 1988, they said, hey, here you go. Go hard. Now, I know 10,000 Connors sound like a lot, but you talking about young, young, young Strong, built up.
- [42:31]
Joe
Stop changing your voice when you talking like that.
- [42:34]
Deebo
You throwing me. Okay, Joe, Joe, now they knew. Hey, 10,000 sound like an eight. But look, go to Rio. Go to Rio Baracillo to Brazil de Janeiro. Rio, 400. Yes, Joe. 450,000 condoms. Hold up, Joe. That ain't it. They said just in case he go 170 bottles of lube with it.
- [43:04]
Joe
Oh my God.
- [43:05]
Deebo
Hold up, Joe. Hold up, Joe. Now let's see. Let's go. Let's go to the other Winter Games. South Korea in 2018. Joe, they gave out 110,000 condoms in South Korea in 2018. They knew damn well 10,000 wasn't gonna work in 2026. No, y' all knew what y' all was doing.
- [43:29]
Joe
No. Oh, man.
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
No.
- [43:31]
Joe
Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.
- [43:34]
Deebo
Now you out here making headlines for not giving them the proper.
- [43:37]
Joe
Not giving them the proper. Not giving the property protection, respect, equipment.
- [43:41]
Deebo
Whatever you want to call it. Protection.
- [43:46]
Joe
Lil Wayne better wear a late text because you don't want that late text.
- [43:52]
Deebo
Listen, I don't. I didn't heard would go down in these villages and I heard. I'm just. I this. I just said they dropping in another 175, 000 yesterday.
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Joe
I'm just. I'm just hoping that everybody look as long as every.
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Ryan Seacrest
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- [44:12]
Joe
Oh, it just be. Just. Just look this the crazy part. I know people out there getting caught up. Be careful. I'm like this as long as you out there do your thing. But like I just be careful out there.
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Deebo
Too, Joe.
- [44:29]
Joe
Yes, bubba.
- [44:30]
Deebo
That is why if you got a other bring with you got to. You're gonna have a whole lot of joy.
- [44:42]
Joe
I'm not going to that village.
- [44:43]
Deebo
Old metal. Oh, you gotta stay in the village. You ain't gotta. You ain't got no choice.
- [44:48]
Joe
You can't bring your significant other to the village.
- [44:50]
Deebo
I don't know about bringing them to the village, but you could go on. I can go on outside the village, but I'm just trying to tell you, Joe, I ain't listen. I'm a saved man. I ain't saying nothing, but I'm saying something. You seen any of them speed skaters? You seen them skaters?
- [45:06]
Joe
Yes, I have.
- [45:08]
Deebo
Oh, Lord, Lord, Lord.
- [45:12]
NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
Joe.
- [45:16]
Joe
Not me. Move set a. Move set a. Matt Mushahi Hayden.
- [45:24]
Deebo
Lord, Joe. It's a lot single. It's a lot of single men women's over there, man.
- [45:28]
Joe
That's what I'm saying. Yes. They need to go. That's. That's who. Hopefully. Hopefully out there Getting to it.
- [45:39]
Deebo
Boy. Got built up frustration, built up joy, anticipation.
- [45:44]
Joe
Debo, stop changing your voice.
- [45:53]
Deebo
Yo. Hey, listen, man, listen. Speaking of. Speaking of living, hey, your. Your guy. What's his name?
- [46:00]
Joe
What's my guy?
- [46:04]
Deebo
Defensive mvp.
- [46:06]
Joe
Miles.
- [46:07]
Deebo
Miles. Yeah. Girl. His girl. She. She got her. She got her. Oh, a silver medal.
- [46:14]
Joe
That's what I'm talking about. And you see my man Miles out there?
- [46:18]
Deebo
She had a golden 18. Yes, she had a golden 20.
- [46:21]
Joe
Come on.
- [46:22]
Deebo
The Dayton Cleveland Browns got a Silver and 26. I didn't. Who put that up there? I didn't put that. Listen, somebody put that. Put that tweet up there. That's not me. I'm not saying that. Put that up there. I was just reading off the thing. I'm not saying that.
- [46:38]
Joe
Y' all better shut your mouths. Shout out to Miles and my man and his girl out there. Keep winning these. Winning these medals. Keep winning these medals. Keep meddling up. There's only three gold, silver, bronze. Best in the world.
- [46:53]
Deebo
Best in the world.
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NFLPA Executive/Spokesperson
And we just.
- [46:55]
Deebo
In the world. Craig.
- [46:57]
Joe
Best in the world, Craig. And my man being a supportive boyfriend. Love to see it, Miles. Love to see it. Look, I love see his shirt, though.
- [47:04]
Deebo
Did you see his shirt or his jacket he had on? Do we got the jacket? We ain't got the jacket, man. He had something on there telling him, leave him alone. He was. He got a girl.
- [47:15]
Joe
He got a girl. Yeah, Miles. He know what's up. Yes, Miles is doing the right thing. I'm here to support my lady.
- [47:23]
Deebo
Leave me alone. I am not here. I am. I'm looking straight forward.
- [47:28]
Joe
Get off of me.
- [47:30]
Deebo
I don't know, man. Might want to put some shades on when them speed skaters come around, though, man. Look here, man.
- [47:36]
Joe
There you go.
- [47:37]
Deebo
I'm just saying, Joe. No, I'm just saying some control.
- [47:41]
Joe
Get some control.
- [47:44]
Deebo
Listen, I do got control. What you talking about? I got. I got plenty of control. Look here. What's up? I got more. I got more control than a little bit. We go going over here, man. Check out these super chats, man. Super chat. We got Michaela Randall, 8843. Donated $5. It's Mikhail. I'm looking at two different things. Mikhail Randall. There we go. Donated $5, said Debo. What about them draft picks? Please give us a map to success. Listen, we go get into that probably on Tuesday. We go. We actually got to start looking at the. What we got on that cap and all that other good stuff, Joe.
- [48:38]
Joe
All of that, bro. Because I'm telling you, we're gonna have a line of his success of what we think is gonna happen. And this is the other thing too, Debo. We just can't. I don't know. I don't know if we're gonna instantly. Like we said, we might not be as successful right away. So not next year is like the plan I might put in place. I'm gonna have two couple different plans. But I mean all of them don't lead to us being like the best. Like you know what I'm saying? But I know the Steelers and the fans are ready to be not the best for maybe a year or two. Not too.
- [49:12]
Deebo
They know. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now, ain't nobody ready to be not the best for a year or two. The Steelers. Stephanie is not. It's not thinking that.
- [49:20]
Joe
I'm just saying. I'm saying it out loud.
- [49:23]
Deebo
Seed and anything. I already said it, Joe.
- [49:26]
Joe
That's what I'm saying.
- [49:27]
Deebo
I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready. I'm getting right now, you know, give my mind right. I ain't. I ain't gonna. I ain't got a problem with that being. Being a little less than best. As long as we can come up, you know, and climb and climb that ladder right back all the way to the top. Ain't no. Ain't no issue to me, baby. Look here brother, we gonna have to get it going. We already with 20, bro.
- [49:53]
Joe
We over coach.
- [49:55]
Deebo
Look here. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Devo and Joe episode 70 with 70,000. Okay, we will be back here tomorrow guys. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your show, Joe.
- [50:19]
Joe
Yo, we will be here tomorrow talking more Steelers. Then we gonna bring back up my browns and how we gonna get right. Also bring them back into the mix. Talk about my shador, you know what I'm saying? How we gonna get all that right? But we be here tomorrow, man. Meet us, see us tomorrow and we out.
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