Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Floyd Mayweather Jr. RETURNS, FASTEST NFL Combine Ever

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe, Part 2: Floyd Mayweather Jr. RETURNS, Fastest NFL Combine Ever

Date: March 3, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media)
Guests: Debo, Joe
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Club Shay Shay brings together Debo and Joe for the second part of their candid, humorous, and insightful conversation. Covering topics from record-breaking speed at the 2026 NFL Combine, playful debates over past 40-yard dash times, and “broke” Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s upcoming fights, to sobering discussions about taxes, food bans, and the FDA, the episode mixes sports analysis, personal anecdotes, financial wisdom, and social commentary.

Throughout, Debo and Joe’s chemistry drives an entertaining banter, supported by audience interaction through super chats.

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Key Topics & Highlights

The Fastest NFL Combine Ever

[02:39 – 03:46]

• Debo hypes the unprecedented speed at the 2026 NFL Combine, noting that defensive backs (DBs) and receivers were running 4.4s across the board – “the fastest draft class of all time.”
• Good-natured roasting as Debo needles Joe about his own 40-yard dash history.
  • Quote (Debo, 03:23): “Mike Mayock marked you as a 4, 6 2. He said, ‘He’s got to study a little more tape on you, Joe.’”
  • Joe tries to clarify, distinguishing between unofficial and pro day times versus official combine numbers.

Joe’s Real 40-Yard Dash Time & NFL Stats

[03:46 – 07:56]

• Debate over Joe’s speed and how it was perceived by scouts and media, ultimately revealing the difference between timed events (hand-timed vs. laser-timed).
  • Quote (Joe, 06:09): “You know what’s official? You can look at how many interceptions I got in the league… 29 at running a 4.6.”
• Both tease each other about their respective times, reps on the bench press at the Combine, and physical stats.
• Memorable exchange:
  • Debo: “How many reps did you throw up with 225, Joe?”
  • Joe: “I think I got 18 reps… I think I was weighing 190.”
  • Debo: “Hey, Joe, this man ain’t nothing but 180.”

The Evolution of Athleticism and Training

[09:18 – 11:06]

• Joe reflects on how today’s prospects have trained for combine tests since middle school, leading to bigger, stronger, faster athletes:
  • Quote (Joe, 09:43): “These dudes are preparing for these 40 yard dashes… since they’ve been in the seventh grade.”
• Anecdotes about kids now dunking in middle school compared to his era, shout out to Navarro Bowman’s athletic feats.

Official Combine Results & Audience Fact-Checking

[11:09 – 13:33]

• Live chat participation: A listener (“Covenant Life”) fact-checks Joe’s combine numbers (official 4.57–4.62 at the combine, 4.43 at Pro Day – possibly hand-timed).
• Back-and-forth about the accuracy and meaning of combine metrics, and Debo jokes about “hand times” and “trick fingers.”

Floyd Mayweather Jr. Returns & Athlete Finances

[13:38 – 25:12]

• Debo raises rumors of Floyd Mayweather being “broke”, listing his string of 2026 fight bookings (with Logan Paul, Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao).
• Quote (Joe, 14:44): “Some people’s broke is different than other people’s broke.”
• Deep dive into athlete money management, the dangers of IRS debts, and the pitfalls of receiving giant untaxed checks.
  • Joe and Debo recount personal stories of shock upon seeing how much taxes claim from NFL checks.
  • Quote (Debo, 24:51): “I get down there, Joe, I grab this check, I’m thinking I’m about to go put a million in the bank… Joe, I opened that check, it said 590.”

Childhood Memories: Shoes & Early Jobs

[26:07 – 28:01]

• Debo and Joe reminisce about their first jobs and the pride of buying coveted items (like British Knights sneakers).
  • Debo: “I got my… first pair of British Knights, bro… the smell of this shoe made me nauseous the first time I actually opened the box.”

Banned Foods, The FDA, & American Consumerism

[28:05 – 34:43]

• Debo lists 10 common US foods banned in other countries due to additives (CoffeeMate, Fruit Loops, Gatorade, etc.)
• Critique of FDA practices, ties to pharmaceutical industry funding, and the way side effect disclosures mask significant risks:
  • Quote (Debo, 30:06): “The FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical, medical device, and drug companies… They regularly approve medicines… and the side effects…”
• Joe: “When you start talking about bees, they don’t give a dang, bro.” (30:33) (referring to billions vs. millions)
• Grim humor about how “people go missing for less” when megacorporations and government are involved.
• Brief science detour on water toxicity and why not all warnings are created equal (Debo, 33:02–34:11).

Smoking, Cigars vs. Cigarettes, and Health

[34:43 – 41:00]

• Cigars are “rated” for quality and purity, whereas cigarettes are not; discussion of George Burns’ lengthy cigar-smoking life as a counterpoint to health warnings.
• Quote (Joe, 40:39): “Some people smoke one cigarette, probably get it… different. Different.”
• Message: Drug/smoke warnings exist because someone actually experienced those side effects.

Play or Fade Segment – NBA Picks

[41:33 – 43:43]

• Debo and Joe share prop bet picks for NBA games (James Harden, Miles Bridges, Jamie Jacquez, Karl-Anthony Towns, DeMar DeRozan), discussing their logic and “easy money” predictions.
• Promotion for a fantasy sports app and code.

Audience Q&A / Super Chats

[43:47 – End]

• Viewers’ questions prompt debates on NFL draft prospects (Tate, Lemon, Tyson), and playful pressure on Joe about his infamous “I lift weights” moment (45:42), and singing the Steelers “Renegade” anthem (49:17).
• Quote (Joe, 49:13): “Oh, mama, I’m in fear for my life forever long…”

Best WR Faced?

[50:06 – 53:07]

• Joe ranks Antonio Brown as his toughest cover (“fast, caught everything, Big Ben made it harder”), followed by Julio Jones, a toss-up between Calvin Johnson and Odell Beckham in their primes, and AJ Green (“flukishly… he could just go up and get a little bit of everything”).

Quick Hits

• Brief jokes about shirt color (teal vs. blue) and shout-outs for jersey giveaways.
• Audience engagement stays high with regular shoutouts, gratitude, and banter.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• [06:09] Joe: “You know what’s official? You can look at how many interceptions I got in the league… 29 at running a 4.6.”
• [09:43] Joe: “These dudes are preparing for these 40 yard dashes… since they’ve been in the seventh grade.”
• [14:44] Joe: “Some people’s broke is different than other people’s broke.”
• [24:51] Debo: “I opened that check that said 590.”
• [30:06] Debo: “The FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical, medical device, and drug companies… They regularly approve medicines…”
• [30:33] Joe: “When you start talking about bees, they don’t give a dang, bro.”
• [40:39] Joe: “It could be some people smoke one cigarette, probably get it. You know what I’m saying? Different. Different.”
• [49:17] Joe: (singing) “Oh mama, I’m in fear for my life…”
• [50:58] Joe: “I think it was AB [Antonio Brown]. Being able to run routes, everything he could do, his hands, his feet... Big Ben there… he'll pump that joint, make him have a little bit more time, turn it to a different route…”

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, comedic, candid, with authentic athlete locker-room banter and storytelling.
• Themes of humility, financial wisdom, health skepticism, and respect for the evolution of athletic standards.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a fast-paced, fun, and honest mix of sports nostalgia, combine war stories, day-to-day athlete realities, critiques of the health industry, financial awareness, all with big personalities. Debo and Joe’s chemistry keeps the energy up and the laughs coming, with plenty of genuine reflection for fans and athletes alike.

Recommended for:
Fans of the NFL, athlete culture, real talk about money and health, and anyone who likes their sports podcasts entertaining and unfiltered.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

Get on over here to the 2026 combine, bro. Listen, they said the 2026 NFL combine prospects were the fastest draft class of all time. Everybody was all time number one, except for the quarterbacks, who was number two. Joe, I'm not gonna lie to you. I saw something as I was looking through the post where you were talking about your speed. And in this post, someone wrote down that you were actually not as fast as you said you were.

[Joe]

That was unmarked you.

[Debo]

That was day four 62. I remember Mike Mea marked you as. Mayock marked you as a 4, 6 2. And he said, he's got to study a little more tape on you, Joe. And then I ain't gonna say the

[Joe]

rest because it's in favor of no. What did he say? Go ahead. What did he say?

[Debo]

I can't read that good. So he said. And then he said. I'm very worried about him. I'm not. I'm watching the tape. I don't know what I'm seeing. The speed is not perfect. He can run a little bit, but everyone. But he can't run good enough. That's what it said. I might be. Might be lying. It was looking at me like that. Why are you looking at me like that? Because I might have changed it up a little bit. I might have got the words mixed up and added a couple other words and said some other things. Let me see. Let me see. Let me. Let me look at. Let me. Let me look at this again. Joe.

[Joe]

It's not. Just look at it. Bump that, Debo. It's not about me right now. It's not about me. It's not about me, Joe.

[Debo]

It is about you.

[Joe]

It's about these. It's about these kids. It's about these.

[Debo]

Hold up, Joe. Don't you try and get deflect and all that when I'm talking junk.

[Joe]

Why are you talking junk? Let me tell you this. I was a cornerback. I was a cornerback.

[Debo]

Hey, listen, listen.

[Joe]

Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Debo]

Jared said that

[Joe]

played 12 years in the league, man.

[Debo]

You know?

[Joe]

You know, I played 12 years in the league, man, on the island, man. I played 12 years in the league on the island, man.

[Debo]

Joe, Is it a real time, Joe?

[Joe]

I played 12 years in the island, man. That's not the real time, Joe.

[Debo]

It's the real time, Joe.

[Joe]

No, it's not.

[Debo]

Yeah, it is, Joe.

[Joe]

No, it's not. No, it's not. It was. It was unofficial. Official.

[Debo]

Oh, it was unofficial, though.

[Joe]

Unofficial. I was official four, five. See his official four, five. Okay.

[Debo]

Hey, Chad, we gotta look up all Joe's stats.

[Joe]

Look it up. Look it up. Look it up. Look it up.

[Debo]

I want unofficial only. I want nothing official.

[Joe]

Look it up. I want official stats.

[Debo]

Nothing official. This is crazy, Joe. These. These boys out here averaging the highest. They averaging a 4. 4 at the DBN. Receiver. Joe, I don't even know if you could have got up to them at that 4:6, man. It would have just been like Debo.

[Joe]

Can I tell you separating. Joe, Can I tell you something? For one thing, I'm fast. For sure, I'm fast. And for another thing, I went seventh overall regardless of running that bull at that combine with the blow back, because they went to my pro day and they saw I'm 4.

[Debo]

3.

[Joe]

I am. I am 4 3. 4 3. 4. 43 7. 43 4. One of the two. But that's neither here nor there. You know what's official? You can look at how many interceptions I got in the league. How Many is that? 29 at running a 4. 6. You say get out of here, kids.

[Debo]

They said you was playing against Cincinnati twice.

[Joe]

Nope, I was playing against.

[Debo]

It was throwing you the ball.

[Joe]

They said I was playing against Matthew Stafford, was trying to throw the ball to A.J. green, and I'm booking that shit. Mm.

[Debo]

You played him one time. What, every five years, Joe?

[Joe]

Nope. Every year. Florida, Georgia game, The biggest tailgate party in the world in Jacksonville.

[Debo]

Pro. Joe, how you gonna go back to college? And you gave me pro numbers. How you gonna switch it up, Joe? What you doing, Joe? Come on, Joe, don't do this to me. Don't do this to me, okay?

[Joe]

When I play AJ we play them twice a year. Twice a year?

[Debo]

Yeah, but he was. Andy Dalton was throwing to him. Come on, stop it.

[Joe]

He was throwing that to me.

[Anna Navarro]

Stop it.

[Debo]

He was throwing it. Andy Dalton. Exactly. That's the point.

[Joe]

He was throwing it to you. No, because I was on his ass picking that. You know what? You look up my first pick.

[Debo]

Oh, now you want to look at things?

[Joe]

That was against Big Ben.

[Debo]

Now you want to look at things. Listen, Joe, I'm on to here, man.

[Joe]

You was there.

[Debo]

You was there, too. They got over there in Georgia, man. He was on the bench, Zachariah on

[Joe]

the bench, watching me run up and down, the run across.

[Debo]

How many reps did you throw up with? 225. Joe, what I do.

[Joe]

Let me not. Let me not. Let me not. Let me not overstep now. I don't know what I do. 10, 11, 12. What I do. 5. I don't know I don't even know if I got off my chest anymore. I don't even know if. I don't even know if I hit 225. No more messing with y'. All. Y' all let me know. Chat says Debo know everything.

[Debo]

Hey, Chad.

[Joe]

I think I might. I think. I think. I think it hit my chest and my feet kicked up. Actually, I think it kicked my feet up. My man is what for. First thing, my man got the. He's repping that gym for sure. Got his back going crazy. I know.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Joe]

He's got the pad under his back. What's the back pad? I'm not hip. But he's throwing that weight up. That's a fact.

[Debo]

Throwing it.

[Anna Navarro]

How many.

[Debo]

How many reps you said you got, Joe? Hey, Chat, how many reps did Joe get?

[Joe]

Y' all let me know, man.

[Debo]

How many reps y' all tell me how many reps y' all think Joe got, man? Or. Or tell me what the. What. What it said. I mean, we'll take a quarter rep.

[Joe]

If he takes a quarter off his chest, honestly, we'll take it. How many reps did I. What'd I give hold you tell me you don't know.

[Debo]

I don't know.

[Joe]

I'm asking you, Joe. I think I got. I think I got 18 reps. I think I got 18 reps. What

[Debo]

was you weighing, Joe?

[Joe]

I think I was weighing 190. Like 190. Probably 190.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, this man ain't nothing but 180. Joe. Twinkie. He threw up. Twinkie. Joe.

[Joe]

I never said I was.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, he run a four two one.

[Joe]

Joe, he ran a four two one. For real.

[Debo]

No, I'm just talking. I'm making up numbers right now.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

God.

[Joe]

I was about to say. Oh, my God. Okay. He's for sure way faster than me.

[Debo]

I'm not.

[Joe]

Okay. I can't. I'm not messing with him. Them, dude, the D backs that ran the 4, 4, like the combine numbers, bro, are ridiculous. The combine numbers are ridiculous. I think now the one that they're doing, I mean, everybody's getting bigger, stronger, faster. Like it's not.

[Debo]

More advancements in technology, more advanced training.

[Joe]

These dudes are preparing for these 40 yard dashes. They've run in 40s electric time since they've been in the seventh grade, sixth grade. Like vertical jumps, all of this stuff. They're not. They're not new to this. They're true to this. They know exactly how they're going to get their starts. They Know their times. They know they're locked in. So, like, this is just the evolution. We see these kids now when I'm watching my Instagram, the basketball, the 8th grade dudes just literally look behind the head, boom, dunking it. I'm like, oh, my goodness. When I was in eighth grade, me and my boys, we would be so happy. We were trying to run slap the backboard when we did our layup. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, yeah.

[Debo]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Slap glass. Now deuce is coming through behind the head dunking. I'm like, okay. There was only one dude I knew that could dunk in middle school around my way. And that man was Navarro Bowman. Do you know Navarro Bowman? The linebacker? He played for San Francisco 49ers.

[Debo]

Yeah, I know. He was in Vegas.

[Joe]

Him and Patrick Willis was sitting right next to each other, looking like the twins. Looking like the twin linebackers. Smashing shit. That dude. Navarro Bowman. I was in the seventh grade. He's one year older than me. He was the only eighth grade dude around. The way that he was dunking. We played high school, middle school basketball against his team, Drew Freeman against my team, Eugene Burroughs. And that was the first time I seen a dude in the eighth grade come down the court in two hands.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Joe, let me interrupt you for a minute. You know Covenant Life, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Covenant Life said NFL combine 40 yard dash. Oh, Lord. Or 4.57 to a 6.2. A 4.62. So it's official combine numbers. She looked it up on you. You ran a four, six, two.

[Joe]

Damn,

[Debo]

that's your pro day. You ran a four, four, three.

[Joe]

But.

[Debo]

But. Okay, but I take it, hey, Covenant Life, we appreciate you for being. We appreciate you.

[Joe]

Thank you for coming.

[Debo]

That 443 was hand time, Joe. Tell the truth. Shame the devil. Was it hand time, Joe? It was.

[Joe]

I don't care.

[Debo]

And the man. And the man that you had during the hand time, he had a trick finger that didn't work all the time.

[Joe]

See, See, that's why.

[Debo]

That's through the. I heard it through the grapevine.

[Joe]

It's all good.

[Debo]

That's what I'm saying, Joe. I ain't saying it. That's what they said. But you know me. I said you ran a four, four, three, Joe.

[Joe]

No, you know what? I don't even care. I don't even care anymore. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant.

[Debo]

Damn, Joe.

[Joe]

It's irrelevant. It's okay.

[Debo]

Hey, hey, Joe. Joe. But you still holding on to this.

[Joe]

All I know is it's in your heart.

[Debo]

It's there. Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

Hey.

[Debo]

I'm literally listen. Talk to our Lord and say, Joe, remove that from your heart, Joe. Remove that from your heart. We gotta let it go. Love. Love heals all, Joe.

[Joe]

I just am so. I know I do. Love heals all. I am a lover. I am a lover. I am a lover.

[Debo]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

But that. It's something about that. It's something about that for me.

[Debo]

Oh, Joe is still there, Joe, still there.

[Joe]

It's never gonna go. Every time I think about it, Joe, let it go. Proud. Every time I think about it, my back start to hurt.

[Debo]

Better men for less. Come on, Joe, let it go.

[Joe]

All right, you know what? It's over. I'm over it. I'm over it.

[Debo]

Look here, man, they saying Floyd Mayweather might be broke. See that money done booked three fights in 2026. And I don't know, Paul Logan said he still only he owe him a million and a half. My man 49, he got three fights lined up in the next. What? Logan Paul. How you owe Logan Paul a million and a half? That's crazy. You got three fights lined up in the next eight months. Yeah, you got Mike Tyson, April, Mike Zam something in June and Manny Pacquiao in September.

[Joe]

Yes,

[Debo]

2017. What are they saying that. Yeah, 2017, they were, they were saying he needed that to that money. The Conor McGregor fight in 2017 to pay off the IRS. He backed that down though, and denied it, showing. What was it, a hundred million dollar check from 2015 that he, I guess got the cash, bro. Ain't no way I'm forgetting the cash. 100 million dollar check, bro. No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe]

This is what I'm tell you. I'm not gonna be out here counting that man's pockets. But I will say this. Some people's broke is different than other people's broke. So he could be like.

[Debo]

He say he ain't broke at all.

[Joe]

I don't, I don't think. I don't think he's broke at all. If Floyd Mayweather has $20 million, it's depending on what your lifestyle is. He's spending $2 million a month. That's going to go out. You know what I'm saying? Unless you got your money making money for yourself and doing things money, it's easy to spend money. You taking private jets and you living and moving and shaking. You got. I've seen. Just talking about things. Watches, $20 million watches, $30 million watches.

[Debo]

You know it's easy to spend money, Hun Joe Blue. You spend it, you spend it.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe. I'm just. Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Debo]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Joe]

Yeah.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

They had to crush him.

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

No, no, no, I'm not.

[Debo]

You just spend it out like it's water out of a faucet. But to me, it looked like it's, you know, to me, I mean, if I was to take the faucet water that you pour out, I'd be broken.

[Joe]

No, that's what I. You did different. He could be.

[Debo]

He.

[Joe]

That's. That's why I'm not counting this cheap but yeah, it could. You never know how people are managing their money, how people managing they dough. Because I'm telling. It's easy to. It's easy to spend it. It's hard to save it. It's easy to spend it. Listen, when you get it.

[Debo]

But it. It was said that my man did fly commercial to cop. It wasn't private.

[Joe]

Who.

[Debo]

No, no, I'm messing with.

[Joe]

I know you mess with me, you only got a plane. And that's what I'm saying, when you start messing with the irs. This other part, you just did that

[Debo]

because you wanted to be with the boys, huh? That's why you just flew regular, huh?

[Joe]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Debo]

Or you just wanted to get out of there?

[Joe]

I'm chilling now. I go first class. But you know what I'm saying? I don't go too crazy. I'm not.

[Debo]

Oh, you sold your jet. Joe sold his jet. Man, I never had a jet. Why you. Why you doing that?

[Joe]

Nope, nope, nope. But look, this is what I'm telling you too. Listen, listen, listen, Debo, I got what I can tell you though. This is what I can tell you. This wouldn't make you go broke. This one to make. This wouldn't make a man go broke real fast. And it don't matter what kind of checks you get. If you get a hundred million dollar check and they don't take the taxes out of it the way they take the taxes out of our checks. Oh, no checks. Do you hear what I'm saying? When the. Dude you. When you get the whole thing and you would get that whole check and then you have to give it to the fed, then you have to give a piece to this and this, that, that. And Debo, you get a million dollars. And then you know when you're in the league and you get that million dollars and it looks. And then it says you get 555,000, you're like, where, where did my, where did the 450 go? That 450 is the money that will get you locked up quick. Because my people that we know is like this. Oh, no, you gave me, you gave Floyd, say, a million dollar check. Okay, that's a million dollars, but 55 of it is yours. Just saying, just giving numbers. Say 60. 60 of it is yours. But I need 40 on this side. And if you don't give me my 40 at the end of the month when we're doing them taxing, we're running back. Oh, yeah, you had the 100 million. Where's my 40? Oh, I spent a hundred. Now you need 40. So how. That's how. Niggas looking crazy. Oh, no. How could you do that? You had 100. You got $100 million check that I owe 42, but I spent that hundred. And now Uncle Sam's knocking on my door when you text her, oh, no, I owe taxes. Oh, yeah, 6,000. No, Floyd had to write a check for $150 million that he already spent. And now niggas looking like, oh, how did he go broke?

[Debo]

Hey, what do you mean? How do you hold up? You just made that 150 million to pay him and you still owe taxes off that. That's what I'm telling you, Joe. Listen, listen.

[Joe]

That's where the nuggets get. So that's why I tell you, the NFL players, the best thing that could have ever happened to anybody. Take my money out, take the taxes, give me what's mine. Okay? Give me.

[Debo]

And that don't.

[Joe]

That ain't necessarily. But still, it don't work all the time. But DEO is way better. It's way better than not.

[Debo]

Goddamn you.

[Joe]

You still might get hit a little bit, but like, oh, man, what you mean you might have a little. Oh, a little something. Like, hey, I thought y' all took it all. Hey, you know, you might owe a little something, but you might.

[Debo]

Listen, listen to me.

[Joe]

That right there with that 100, you drop the 100 ball and you spend you 100 million. I got my door for 40.

[Debo]

Joe. Joe, I got my first ever million dollar check. It was like my second or third contract, right? Yeah, this was like 2000. No, it's my. Yeah, second or third. It was like 2005 after we won the first super bowl, right? So they signed me to like the biggest exclusive rights, non starter deal. I'm like, yo, I am rich. I'm not about to have to ever work again, right? Because I grew up my whole life believing rich people didn't pay taxes. That's what I was told. That's what I was told my whole life. Rich people didn't pay taxes. So, Joe, I'm going down there to get this million dollar check. Yeah. I never forget it. I get down there, Joe, I grab this check, I'm thinking I'm about to go put a million in the bank. Now, I know I got taxes, but I didn't. Totally forgot about the taxes because I'm getting a million dollars. Yeah, I'm rich, right? Yeah. Joe, I opened that check that said 590.

[Joe]

There we go, five in front of it. I've tried to get.

[Debo]

I said what?

[Joe]

Who stole my bread?

[Debo]

Where is my paper at? Yes. Yes. Oh, and hold up, Joe. The end of the year, they wanted another 60.

[Joe]

Yeah, that's how it be. They're gonna. Yeah, that's how it be. When you don't. You. You're not aware. You don't know, but yep, that's what happens. That's. They gonna go get theirs, Debo.

[Debo]

I do.

[Joe]

You gotta come learn.

[Debo]

Come away. Because that was people that broke the camel's back.

[Joe]

That's the way. That's the way the world turns, man. Everybody find out when they got a job. Because that my worst part was I didn't never had a job. That was my first job ever was in the league.

[Debo]

Oh, well, I had a job since I was 12. I was working since I was 12.

[Joe]

Well, you were getting hit on taxes with that, or were you just. Were you just doing some stuff? Where you going?

[Debo]

So I didn't get. I didn't. I didn't get tax off that. I was. It was like I was getting paid out, like petty cash. You know what I'm saying? You don't know what it feel like. Well, I was. Hold up, hold up. I was getting money, though. Let me tell you how much money I was getting, Joe. I was getting 5.25 an hour. You couldn't tell me? Yeah, you need a minimum wage before in the quota. Then I was getting paid.

[Joe]

Oh, you was up.

[Debo]

Listen, bro. He was up, Joe. Now, listen, all the way up until I think I was in seventh grade, bro, I'm wearing the hard bottoms. You know, the top guns. You sliding across the gym floor and all that.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

I never forget it. I got my. I was able to afford to get my first pair of British Knights, bro. I got these British Knights, bruh. Listen, man, I got these bks, brother, and I went to go put them on. You don't even know what British nice is, do you?

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

Okay. Okay, y', all.

[Joe]

Y', all.

[Debo]

Hey, make sure y' all put this up when y' all post. Put. Put the British night up. But, Joe, the. I don't know what it was, if it was. I just couldn't take the. The smell of money or the smell of expensive things. But the smell of this shoe, bro, actually made me nauseous the first time I actually opened the box, bro, because I was used to that old Top Gun smell, you know, the hard bottom, Joe. Yeah, I was.

[Joe]

I had.

[Debo]

You ain't never. You heard of Stacy Adams?

[Joe]

Yes, I heard of Stacy F. It's

[Debo]

a dress shoe, right?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

No, that was my gym shoe, brother. No, they made tennis shoes.

[Joe]

Come on.

[Debo]

My daddy. Joe. Joe, you was rich before you ever got rich. You just got rich how, Debo?

[Joe]

They had you on the Stacy Adams sneaker jumps. It's crazy.

[Debo]

Hey, hold up, Joe. That was an upgrade from the Top Gun. What you talking about?

[Joe]

See, I gotta see the Top Gun first. I gotta see the Top Gun, bruh. Damn.

[Debo]

Okay, bro, when I say the hard bottoms, bro, I mean, you can. You can break rocks on them, man, and it ain't gonna damage this shoe. Okay?

[Joe]

I'm gonna look the BK Nights.

[Debo]

British Knights.

[Joe]

British nights.

[Debo]

No, British. Nice, brother. British nights. I'm trying to tell you, bro, it's something. It's something. Something different. Look it up, man. Tell you once you look it up, man.

[Joe]

All right.

[Debo]

Matter of fact, you got. You got children, right? Yes, yes. What do you feed your kids, man? Oh, we got. We got 10 foods, man, that I guess a lot of folks eat, man, but it's banned in other countries, dude. Like, what is this list right here? So this is something I could really get into, Joe, you know what I'm saying? Because a lot of people, Americans, they just. They just unaware of what's. What's in this stuff, man. Like, you look at this right here, you got coffee, mate. Like the actual. Like. Like that creamer, I guess it has an increase because of the chemicals that's in there, dude. Got an increase of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hell, even all Alzheimer's, dude. But the drug companies got something for that, so it don't matter, man. Then you got the Fruit Loops with the oot. It used to be fruit, but they probably took that out because they just started adding all them food colors. You got. You got a red 40, you got yellow 5 and 6. But like, in other countries that's banned. They actually make it without that in other countries because they know it makes your kids sick, causes neurological issues, behavior issues, you name it, bro. Like, it does a little bit everything. It even damages, like, DNA inflammation, like hyperactivity in kids. Like. But hey, the drug companies got something for that too, right? I tell you, look, Gatorade, Mountain Dew, Ritz crackers, Skittles, Twix, instant mashed potatoes, bro. Stovetop stuffings. Even our meats in the usa, dude, they. They banned over there, beef, chicken, pork, farm raised salmon.

[Joe]

It.

[Debo]

It, like, you can go on and on, dude. Like, why? Like, like, so why does the FDA even allow this? Yo, Joe, why did the FDA even Allow this. Why do you think they allow this, dude?

[Joe]

Why? Why? Do you know why? You know why, bruh?

[Debo]

I know why.

[Anna Navarro]

Why?

[Debo]

Everything's allowed, dude. The FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical, medical device, and drug companies. Hence, the FDA is very accommodating. I'll say accommodating. I won't say the other. The other word. I'll just say they're accommodating. Okay? They listen. They regularly approve medicines that you hear on the commercials, bro, you hear on the commercials, the side effects, it's this. This.

[Joe]

This might go blind. It might go blind. It's a instant crazy. But look, that makes sense now why they might use. And then you might not be able to see ever again.

[Debo]

Thank you. Yeah. Saying it real quiet, real fast, then

[Joe]

you might not be able to see ever again in your whole entire life. I'm like, damn.

[Debo]

But it makes sense. Why? Because they are being funded by the actual businesses that they're approving, dude. Like, they don't really care. We don't. They. They don't really care about American health. They looking at the numbers, bro. And when it comes down to it, if this product can make billions of dollars and we lose a few lives in the process and end up having to pay, I don't know, maybe 2, 3, 4 million, $100 million, it's cool, because we gonna make like, 50, 60 billion. Yeah.

[Joe]

When you start talking. When you start talking about bees, they don't give a dang, bro.

[Debo]

Tell me about it.

[Joe]

What, Bro? People have gone missing for less. So when we start talking about real stuff, like, brother, come on, man. The biggest goddamn cartel is government. They running all this. Trillions and trillions. You could send trillions in dollars somewhere. What are we talking about? I. I'm spooked that you can do anything kind of here, but.

[Debo]

But listen, this. This is the crazy thing.

[Joe]

Like, you can. Well, Debo, honestly, though, it's the people

[Debo]

that I talk to that's like, oh, that. That's saying that that's a possible side effect. Like, it could possibly be happening. They just. They're just saying that to, you know, to possibly just cover themselves. And it pisses me off so bad because it's not like a possible side effects. They're not just covering their ass. They had to put it on there because the side effects actually happened to somebody. That means somebody actually died from it. When they run the trials, they have to put it in there. Somebody went blind, Somebody went deaf. Somebody passed away.

[Joe]

Like, got to. They got to.

[Debo]

Here's the crazy Thing. So water, prime example.

[Joe]

Oh, Debo, when water.

[Debo]

Listen, I. I want to go real simple.

[Joe]

You went real simple.

[Debo]

Water, Real simple.

[Joe]

I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.

[Debo]

So water can actually kill you. Too much water can kill you.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

That's facts. Yes. Right? Yes. It's called acute. Acute delusional. Something is called hyponeutropia, whatever it is. So basically what it does is it throws off your sodium levels, your concentration of sodium, which affects your muscles, your nerves, your brain, all that, and it can kill you. But the reason. Listen to me, people. The reason there is no warning on water is because when water is used as it should normally be used, there is no risk of death. You're seeing these side effects of these issues because if the medicine is used as it's normally supposed to be used, you could possibly have all of those. So you telling me something that I use as you prescribe me to use it can actually get me up out of here? Yes. Yep.

[Joe]

Yep. I am. I'm here with you, Debo. But you know what we said. But some. Like, what the hell we gonna do about it?

[Debo]

Hey, I make sure I get all my. I go to the farm that I get my stuff from. I see it. I've been there. I went through the whole process. I see all that. I try and do everything I can. I ain't gonna lie. I mess up sometimes. You know what I'm saying? No. I'm saying I like to smoke me a little cigar here and there. But here's the thing. Listen.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Cigarettes and all that other stuff got a whole bunch of chemicals in it. Cigars is tobacco. You know why cigars is tobacco? It's just straight tobacco. Because they rate cigars. You start putting the chemical in the cigar, a true connoisseur is going to taste that. It's going to drop the rating. These cigarettes, they don't care. Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Anna Navarro]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside.

[Joe]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Anna Navarro]

Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Anna Navarro]

They were dressed up in their uniform.

[Joe]

The KKK set out to raid Charlie, take him away from here. Charlie was an example of power.

[Debo]

They had to crush him.

[Anna Navarro]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie. So place a story that was nearly lost to time until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Ambitious, well intentioned, ferocious and wealthy mother looks like in the Black community this woman's History Month. The podcast Keep It Posit Sweetie celebrates the power of women choosing healing, purpose and faith. Even when life gets messy, love is not a destination.

[Joe]

You have to work on it every day.

[Anna Navarro]

Keep It Positive Sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self worth, love, growth and navigating life with grace and grit led by women who uplift, inspire and tell the truth out loud. I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years to hear this and more. Listen to Keep It Positive sweetie on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Podcast Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police? Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where Dating Isn't Dating. Arranged Marriage is basically a reality show, except the contestants are strangers and your entire family is judging. You're sipping coffee with one, maybe grabbing dinner with another, and praying your karmic Ken or Barbie appears before your shelf life runs out. Trust me, I've been through this ancient and unshakable tradition. I jumped in hoping to find love the right way, and instead I found chaos, cringe and comedy. And now I'm looking for healing. Boys and Girls dives into every twist and turn of the arranged marriage carousel. The meet awkward, the near misses, the heartbreak. And let's not forget all the jokes. Listen to boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on Biggie? You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable.

[Joe]

I want to get confident.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Joe]

came from, I'm from the Bronx.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Debo]

Want to get you addicted. They don't rate no cigarette, bruh. Oh, think about it. Puffing cigars. You got ratings on that. You got this. You got that. George Burns live to be. What was it, a hundred? 100, 102? You know what got him, man? Fail. Broke a hip. That's what got. He was known for smoking at least five, six cigars. Up to 15 cigars a day. Day. You know who George Burns is?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

And.

[Debo]

And did not. Did not get cancer. Anybody else. You smoke that many cigarettes? Not even cigarettes, bro. That a cigar. You. One cigar is probably equivalent to a whole pack.

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Debo]

But I don't inhale.

[Joe]

I got some people on my mom's side of the family. My man, please bless. Everything's still good. He's smoking most cigarettes I've ever seen, and he's still chilling. So it's. It could be some people smoke one cigarette, probably get it. You know what I'm saying? Different. Different.

[Debo]

That's. That's the drug warnings.

[Joe]

Everybody, for sure. Everybody different.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's not meant, like, because I know some people that smoking right now to the day that still ain't got no cancer. I'm like, you are fighting

[Debo]

so Autumn Drug warnings on them things. Y'. All, listen, it's. It's there because it happened to somebody, okay? That means it could happen to you. I don't want to get rid of whatever it is so bad that I'm willing to risk my life for it. I'm sorry. I can't do it. Joe.

[Joe]

What's up, coach?

[Debo]

You know what time it is? It's time for play of fade presented by Prosper. All right, Joe.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Cooked up another lineup for us for nf NBA basketball play. We choose to play or we fade it. We got.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Debo]

Cleveland versus Detroit. James Harden. More.

[Joe]

Yes, more. James Harden with my Cavalier.

[Debo]

That's easy. That's easy work.

[Joe]

Two straight balls.

[Debo]

Miles Bridges.

[Joe]

Five boards. More.

[Debo]

4.5 boards. We got Jamie. Was that Jacquez? Yeah, we got him for more than 12.5 points. I mean, all this is easy, man. All this. All this is easy, man. Miami, Brooklyn. That's. Yeah, that's. That's easy, man. Carl.

[Joe]

Yeah, Carl. Anthony Towns. Now this the one I'm gonna watch.

[Debo]

Hey, hey.

[Joe]

Carl Anthony Towns. Good to drop a dub.

[Debo]

More than 18.5.

[Joe]

Good to kick a leg out. Yep. 18 five.

[Debo]

Toronto, New York. We got Sacramento and Phoenix.

[Joe]

DeMar DeRozan.

[Debo]

DeRozan.

[Joe]

That's man.

[Debo]

And assist.

[Joe]

And assist. Yes.

[Debo]

Four.

[Joe]

Four point five. Yes.

[Debo]

Over. I ain't gonna lie to you. More. It's more. Easy. More. I gotta play this. You playing this?

[Joe]

I'm definitely playing this.

[Debo]

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[Joe]

That's gonna hit. That's an easy one.

[Debo]

That's gonna hit. That's good money. We're gonna go on over here, see what's going on in these super chats. Joe.

[Joe]

He was popping, Coach.

[Debo]

Oh, you. Mads. $5. Say, shout out, guys. Which receiver do you want us to take? Tate, Lemon, Cooper Jr. And Ted Hurst. I personally want Cornell. Tate, what are your thoughts? Who do you want them to take? It's about. You could. You could want them to take whoever you want them to take. It's about who will be available. And who do you see on this list being available? And who do you see as being not maybe worth going at that position that we're at?

[Joe]

Who you like?

[Debo]

I don't know. I think it really depends on how they fit into what we're doing, what we're Building. Anywhere. If it's anywhere. All of them. I could take any one of them.

[Joe]

I'm gonna go with. Let me see what my man say. Thompson. I like. I like Tate, obviously. I think Tate's the best, but I like Jordan Tyson. I like Jordan, Tyson. And then third, I like Lemon. I think all of all three of them dudes will be amazing on the squad. So first take, obviously, but I think Tate's gonna be the first one taken. So if either one, Tyson, or Lemon are there, I like them.

[Debo]

Okay. Okay. Moving on. Moving on. Covenant Life $10. She said, Joe, I saw a clip of you saying, I lift weights.

[Joe]

Oh, damn.

[Debo]

See, then someone's hit you, and you said, damn. What was that about Joe coming to life?

[Joe]

It was mic'd up. I was mic'd up. I say, I lift weights. Cause I hit somebody first. They weren't. You gotta watch the whole thing. You can chop and screw everything and make it look crazy. So I didn't go straight from I lift weights to when he pushed me on the ground. That was a whole different play. I was guarding the receiver.

[Debo]

But you wasn't lifting weights after that. You ain't even think about them weights when they push you down, huh?

[Joe]

I. This. He lifts weights, too. That's what I do. That's what I do. He lifts weights also. Both of us. It could be two things that weren't right. I lift weights and lift weights, too.

[Debo]

Two things could be correct.

[Joe]

So, Deebo, I'm backpedaling. I'm backpedaling. I'm playing corner. I'm backpedaling, and I'm thinking, it's a pass play, and it's a receiver. He running like he about to run a fly. And then he gets up close to me and then starts blocking and pushes me. So I wasn't ready. I'm thinking I'm about to guard him for a pass, and he gets up on me and then push me. And I fall down and stand up, and it's right in front of their sideline, and I'm embarrassed. I look over. Damn. And everybody sees me and starts laughing on their bench. So I was like, it was all good. But they caught me. I was mic'd up, and that's what the video she seen.

[Debo]

Okay?

[Joe]

But I did see somebody in that video.

[Debo]

Speed was a 22. She said, I love it, sir.

[Joe]

Thank you. I was, thank you. Cause I'm fast.

[Debo]

Listen, Joe, all right to this. You didn't get too fast. You just ran 22. It took you about 14, let's say 55 yards to get to 22.

[Joe]

No, 22 miles per hour. I was floating.

[Debo]

Are we back with Covenant Life? $10, she said, let me hear you sing it. Oh, my mom. In fear of my life from the long arm of the law law man, she wants you to sing Renegade,

[Joe]

see? Oh, how's she gonna just throw me on the spot to sing the Renegade?

[Debo]

Yo, do you know it, Joe? Prove you a Steeler. She wanted to prove you a Steeler.

[Joe]

I do do it.

[Debo]

She after you today, man.

[Joe]

Coveted life.

[Debo]

Did she get.

[Joe]

Did she get. Did she get my package that I sent?

[Debo]

She ain't get her jersey, see?

[Joe]

Oh, no, it's latest. Latest is arriving no later than Tuesday.

[Debo]

Talking about my shirt. Teal. It is blue.

[Joe]

The man's shirt is teal. Look at that.

[Debo]

83. If it's more. If teal is more blue than green, I'll give you teal.

[Joe]

Teal is blue and green together. And that's what your shirt is. You keep saying if it's more blue. The green is 50. 50.

[Debo]

No, it's not. It's not. No.

[Joe]

Look at that.

[Debo]

Yo, look, bruh, look. Give me something else that's blue. I'm telling you.

[Joe]

Let me show you my.

[Debo]

It's a. It's a, Joe. You gonna say, what color is this?

[Joe]

What color is this?

[Debo]

You want me to lie to you?

[Joe]

Tell the truth. Tell me the truth.

[Debo]

That's more of a Tealish green. Now, Joe, you keep deflecting. Do you know the words?

[Joe]

You know, I'm gonna start bringing up. You know, I'm gonna start ready at the beginning of the show for you.

[Debo]

Covenant. Send in $10. Said. I want to hear Joe. Joe, if he know if he is. Is he a still or is he a brown? Oh, mama,

[Joe]

Oh, mama.

[Debo]

Sing it.

[Joe]

Oh, mama I'm in fear for my life Forever long.

[Debo]

Okay, you know what you know, but I got you.

[Joe]

I got you so far from my home.

[Debo]

Okay, I got you, Joe. I got you, Joe. Okay, okay. Covenant Light back at it again. Joe coming like. Did you get your jersey from Joe coming like. Did you get your jersey, Joe? I don't see. I don't see. She said nothing right here, Joe. I don't see. She said nothing right here, Joe. Coming to life. Back $10, Joe, which was the toughest matchup for you? AJ Green, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham. That's not even in the conversation.

[Joe]

It was. Yes, it was prime Odell. Yes, he was, Calvin.

[Debo]

You telling me odell over A.B.

[Joe]

i'm telling you. He's in this.

[Debo]

I'm distract. I'm. I'm distracting.

[Joe]

Go ahead.

[Debo]

Okay. Matter of fact, I'm gonna let you talk about all of them and explain why. Or Calvin Johnson and explain why Omar said Browns will get the loudest boo during the draft. Yes, they will. You.

[Joe]

In Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh. It's gonna be real.

[Debo]

Give me AJ Give me AJ Green

[Joe]

over all of them.

[Debo]

No, I'm saying. I'm asking you, A.J.

[Joe]

green.

[Debo]

Okay. Overall, give me who is who. Who you got as the toughest matchup overall?

[Joe]

For me, it was. For me, it was Antonio Brown.

[Debo]

Exactly.

[Joe]

For me, it was Antonio Brown.

[Debo]

Why?

[Joe]

Because it was a little bit of both. When I was there, too. He was quick. He was going to catch everything. Speedy as a mug and same time, don't let Big Ben was the quarterback and make him scramble. And now I covered the comeback. Oh, he's going to turn that into a go real fast. And now I'm hit regardless. So I think it was AB Being able to run routes, Everything he could do, his hands, his feet, being able to be quick off the line. He's quicker than fast, but he's both. But he's super duper quick. You couldn't get hands on him off the line. And then on top of him having Big Ben there to. If I was able to cover the route, he'll pump that joint, make him have a little bit more time, turn it to a different route that I'm like, oh, how do? I can't cover this long. So then being able to ad lib was the craziest thing ever. So I'll go AB for show because it was him, and it was a little bit of Ben that was putting me in the blender.

[Debo]

Who you got next?

[Joe]

Next? I will probably go. I only played Calvin one time, so I will go. I'm gonna have to probably go. I'm probably gonna go. Julio Jones.

[Debo]

Julio Jones.

[Joe]

Julio Jones. Okay. Cause this. He's. Cause he's the. He's probably the big. He's the. He's the probably fastest, biggest. Him and Calvin were kind of the same. Strong, big, fast, could jump high, could do everything. So I just had to basically just try to get in position to stay in front of. And then I'm gonna go with AJ And Odell, kind of the same Odell when he was prime. Odell, the Giants, he was one of the quickest dudes off the line. He was catching everything, taking those slants to the house. So he was very, very tough to car. And then aj, I don't know how him and Andy, I just had to cover him twice a year. And flukishly, he done caught the game winner on me one time on a post. I don't know how he could just go up and get a little bit of everything. So.

[Debo]

Damn, you called it a fluke. That's crazy.

[Joe]

I wasn't fluke, but it was, like

[Debo]

I said, flukish, fluish.

[Joe]

Because I would be right there, and then he would sometimes be able to still catch it. So I felt like that was fluke. But, no, it's just because he was nuts.

[Debo]

I ain't about to diminish my skills. The boy had. That was fluke.

[Joe]

That was fluke, man. Took peanuts off my head. Cat.

[Debo]

We got. We got $10 from Mikhail Randall. 8843. He said, where do y' all think A.J. brown going this season? Could pit be on the list? And if y' all sending jerseys, where do I send the money to collect me and Adibo and Joe pit jersey? Listen, you got to be as dedicated as Covenant Life. Is it, baby? Look here. Where is A.J. brown going? I don't know, but it damn sure ain't gonna be picked.

[Joe]

It damn sure ain't gonna be pit. Cause I'm. I don't need. We don't need none of. We don't need no disgruntledness. We ain't got time for the scrum on this. We talking about the studying of the receivers. A.J. brown will be the study we like. Ah, he's very good, but we don't need him here right now. We're not good enough yet. We're not. We're not. We don't have the foundation set.

[Debo]

Can't do it. Can't do it. Won't do it.

[Joe]

But he's gonna be good. He's gonna be somewhere for sure. He got go to a squad that got a solid quarterback and a solid foundation.

[Debo]

Foxy. All right, we got another one $5 from Foxy Mama. 4, 3, 2, 1. Said the Falcons boo for hiring Stefanski

[Joe]

in Pittsburgh.

[Debo]

No Pittsburgh after that. I understand what you're saying. If that wasn't. Nah, it don't matter. It was in Cleveland.

[Joe]

If it was in Cleveland.

[Debo]

But I don't even see that happening in Cleveland because they go. They're gonna be happy they got rid of you. So I don't.

[Joe]

They might just start laughing.

[Debo]

Yeah. Ain't nobody tripping on the Falcons. How long we see them? Once every 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10 years. Something. I don't know.

[Joe]

Not too Often.

[Debo]

Not too often. Not too often at all. That's it right there. Joe. Look here, man. Been real. We want to thank you for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your podcast. Joe.

[Joe]

Yo, you heard Debo. Make sure you like subscribe, download where you get your podcast and we will see you on Friday, same place, same time.

[Debo]

We out.

[Anna Navarro]

When segregation was a law, one mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald had his own rules.

[Debo]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Joe]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Anna Navarro]

Was he a businessman, A criminal, A hero?

[Joe]

Charlie was an example of power.

[Debo]

They had to crush him.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Debo]

I'm just mowing the lawn.

[Anna Navarro]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

Where'd you learn this?

[Joe]

Oh, it's on smokeybear.com with many other wildfire prevention tips.

[Debo]

Right. Thanks, honey bear.

[Joe]

Cause remember, only you can prevent wildfires.

[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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