Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe, Part 2: Kenneth Walker III to Hit Free Agency + Is Jalen Hurts the NFL's Most Hated Player?

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)
Episode Date: February 17, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode features NFL legends Deebo and Joe (subbing in for Shannon Sharpe), diving deep into trending NFL headlines, fan Q&As, and classic player debates. They tackle the futures of stars like Kenneth Walker III, debate why Jalen Hurts is considered the "NFL's most hated player," reminisce on battles with iconic wide receivers, and engage with passionate fans on everything from draft trades to locker room legends.
Tone throughout is candid, playful, and rooted in lived NFL experience.

Key Topics & Insights

Kenneth Walker III’s Free Agency Future

Timestamps: 02:09–05:39

• Announcement: Kenneth Walker III will become a free agent as Seattle won’t use the franchise or transition tag, making him “free free.”
  Joe: “With him being a free agent, it said that they aren’t going to give him a tag of franchise or transitional player and he’s going to be free. Free.” (02:20)
• Debate: Seattle’s priorities lean toward paying Jackson Smith-Njigba (JSN) and balancing their financial situation with young talent like Charbonnet at running back.
• Deebo’s Take:
  • “If I’m there, I’m definitely trying to keep Kenneth Walker… JSN’s deal is going to get done. He’s a priority. But you can’t pay everybody.” (04:14)
  • Advocates giving Walker a “nice deal” (like Dalvin Cook), but says Seattle must be realistic and Walker should seek top dollar if available.

Top 5 Wide Receivers of All Time Debate

Timestamps: 06:42–13:47

• Prompt: Joe asks Deebo for his ‘Top 5 WRs of All Time’.
• Both Agree: Jerry Rice is a statistical outlier and must be included, but personal favorites take precedence.
• Deebo’s Top 5:
  1. Randy Moss (“my favorite receiver of all time”) (09:26)
  2. Terrell Owens (“gotta give number two to T.O.”) (09:28)
  3. Antonio Brown (“I played against him and with him”) (09:34)
  4. Calvin Johnson (“Megatron; only one I didn’t play against is Moss”) (10:09)
  5. Julio Jones (“athletically… it was a little bit harder for me to cover Julio than Larry Fitzgerald”) (10:29)
• Honorable Mentions: Larry Fitzgerald (“Nice Hands Larry”), Isaac Bruce, Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt (“Torry Holt needs to be in the Hall of Fame”), Steve Smith, Andre Johnson, Tim Brown.
• Deebo’s Philosophy:
  “Your favorite great don’t gotta be my favorite great. If I’m bringing up like, I’m like, no, but what about him? I’m like, oh, he’s nice…he’s not my top five.” (12:19–13:18)
• Milestone Memory: Joe recalls trying to defend Calvin Johnson (“Megatron”) on a Hail Mary in 2013— “We had three cats on him, bro. You know he caught the ball over us, right?” (13:54)

Why Is Jalen Hurts the NFL’s Most Hated Player?

Timestamps: 19:16–22:43

• Statistic: According to Vegas Insider, Jalen Hurts has a ‘hate score’ of 10/10 from NFL fans.
• Joe’s Theory:
  • It’s mostly about Philadelphia fans, famed for their unruly hostility even toward their own (“they were throwing batteries at the bus, bruh!”) (19:54)
  • “He is the face of the organization. So all the fans go hate them. That’s easy. That’s 10 out of 10.” (20:44)
• Deebo’s Take:
  • Argues that Hurts’ calm composure and “unbothered” vibe rub some fans the wrong way.
  • “He’s so smooth, like he don’t care… His smoothness—people try to affect him, and he’s unbothered.” (21:51)
• Consensus: The hate is more about the Philly market and its expectations than Hurts’ actual play or demeanor.

NFL ‘Most Hated’ Players List—Rapid Fire

Timestamps: 22:52–25:50

• Highlights:
  • Jake Moody (49ers K): Hated for missed ‘money kicks.’
  • Daniel Jones (Giants QB): The New York pressure cooker.
  • Luther Burton (Rookie WR): “Already hating him because he didn’t get y’all what you thought you should have got off the rookie year.” (23:44)
  • Joe Burrow, Zach Wilson: Sometimes punished by fans for just being “too cool” or failing to meet lofty market expectations.
  • Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson: Comments touch on vaccine controversy, guaranteed money, and off-field narratives.

Deshaun Watson & “The Bag” Discussion

Timestamps: 25:05–31:13

• Scenario: What should the Browns do if Watson returns to MVP-level form in his final guaranteed contract year ($46M)?
  • Joe: “He put up 450 yards, six touchdowns. What you go do, Joe?”
  • Deebo: “I’m gonna give him another bag. Straight up. If he takes us there, he deserves another way.”
• Negotiation: Banter over the length and amount of a new Watson deal (“Two years, another two,” vs. “He need three year, 135 with 120 guaranteed.”)
• Team Loyalty vs. Player Leverage: The debate weighs the franchise’s long-term flexibility against player’s market-setting contracts.

Fan Superchat Segment—Draft, Trades, Steelers Roster Moves

Timestamps: 31:14–44:48

• Trade Proposals: Listeners propose complex draft trades; Deebo and Joe generally prefer “homegrown” talent over risky, unknown draft picks.
• Steelers Roster Churn:
  • TJ Watt’s status as a “face of the franchise” is defended.
    “Brother, TJ not going nowhere, man. He’s a baller. He does everything the right way.” (41:36)
  • Opining on possible trades to free cap or getting younger, but stressing you “can’t just put out” proven stars.
• Coaching Requests: Listener asks if Deebo & Joe would help coach Steelers’ defense:
  • Joe jokes about Dick LeBeau as consultant: “Let’s set up a little vacation… hang out in Arizona, play golf, and pick your ear about this fire zone defense.” (44:12)

Memorable Quotes

• Deebo on Seahawks’ RB dilemma:
  “You can’t pay everybody…I will want to give him [Walker]…a nice deal…but not a resetting of the market.” (04:14)
• On fan debates:
  “Your favorite great don’t gotta be my favorite great…Who you taking off my joint?…You just talking about greats.” (12:19–13:18)
• Joe on Philly fans:
  “You can’t get no stronger negative reaction from the fans…They were throwing batteries at the bus, bruh.” (19:54)
• Deebo on Jalen Hurts:
  “Sometimes he’s…nothing wavers him…You can’t say nothing to throw Jalen Hurts off of his vibe.” (21:51)

Notable Moments & Fun Banter

• Joe’s “Wi-Fi Troubles” recur throughout, leading to jokes about “running on dial-up” and needing to “turn all the power off and flip it back on.” (06:07, 34:43)
• Deebo on Home Repairs:
  “I generally know a little bit about everything… I got a degree in general studies.” (45:15)
• **Debate about location of “Cabo” and St. Lucia—a classic running joke as both try to pin it on the map. (46:39–47:08)

Listener Questions and Community Shout-Outs

• Superchats cover everything from offensive line priorities to best college cornerbacks on the draft board.
• Legacy Debates: Who’ll step into defensive leadership, and how changing rosters and contracts keep franchises competitive.

Summary & Takeaways

This episode delivers a lively, insightful peek into the business and culture of the NFL through the eyes of two former pros. From candid debates about roster construction to the quirks of fan perceptions and legendary player legacies, Deebo and Joe bring unfiltered analysis and personal anecdotes.
Whether you’re a Seahawks fan worried about losing Kenneth Walker, a Philly defender, or a lover of top-5 debates, there’s an authentic, inside-the-locker-room vibe—punctuated by fan love and old-school NFL war stories.

Next Episode: Deebo will report in from a “different location”—possibly Cabo or St. Lucia (location still undetermined).