Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Matthew Stafford Signs Extension + Joe Burrow & Bengals Improves Roster

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe, Part 2: Matthew Stafford Extension, Bengals Roster, and All-things Athlete Nutrition

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Episode: Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Matthew Stafford Signs Extension + Joe Burrow & Bengals Improves Roster
Air Date: May 22, 2026
Host/Guests: Shannon Sharpe (“Deebo”), Joe Burrow (“Joe”)

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Episode Overview

This installment features Deebo Samuel and Joe Burrow in an energetic, candid, and often playful discussion about major NFL off-season moves—most notably, Matthew Stafford's lucrative contract extension with the Rams and Joe Burrow’s optimism about the Cincinnati Bengals' upgraded roster. The conversation also delves into approaches to player health, nutrition overhauls across teams, training consistency, and locker-room banter about resilience, team loyalty, and lessons from NBA playoff heartbreaks.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Burrow Raves About Bengals’ Most Talented Roster

• Main Point: Joe discusses headlines claiming he’s confident about breaking touchdown records but clarifies the Bengals' roster is the most talented since he joined.
  • Deebo admits to being baited by “clickbait” headlines about Burrow.
  • Quote: “I thought he said he was go throw 48 touchdowns and break the record... you know, like it was a statement or something. I was about to pull my olive branch back...” — Deebo (03:09)
• Clarification: Burrow reframes his optimism:
  • Quote: “I think this is the most talented roster that we've had since I've been here... 48 for breaking... Doable.” — Joe (04:14)
  • Deebo and Joe dissect “doable” vs. “guaranteed” and stress the importance of O-line protection for any record-breaking.

⭐ Notable Moment (04:31):

Deebo: “Again, Joe, words mean things. Okay? ‘Doable’ meaning it’s something that can be done. It’s not gonna be easy. It’s not a given.”

2. Burrow’s Belief in the Bengals, but with Caution

• Key Insight: Burrow is bullish if core offensive pieces (Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins) and health hold up.

  • Quote: “If I’m Joe Bur... If I’m out there healthy and I still got my two dogs out there, I believe in me. I believe in them.” — Joe (06:27)
  • “Can I be upright? It’s doable if this line gonna be able to protect fool me. But if I’m out there healthy... I can throw 50 touchdowns, you know what I'm saying?” — Joe (06:49)

• AFC North Banter: Deebo teases about the Steelers’ defense potentially derailing Bengals’ plans.

3. The Ongoing Conversation About Player Mobility

• Themes: Drawing parallels between quarterbacks leaving teams (Stafford from Detroit, LeBron from Cleveland) to chase “rings," the duo wonders if Burrow should eventually move on from Cincinnati.
  • Quote: “Joe Burrow. Get out of Cincinnati. You don’t want to die there. You don’t want your career to die there. No, sir. I don’t want it for you.” — Deebo (35:35)
• Analogy: Cites Matthew Stafford’s Super Bowl stint after leaving Detroit, and LeBron’s Miami move.
  • Extended riff on not wasting prime talent and not settling for “dancing with the same partner."

4. Matthew Stafford Contract Extension Breaks Down (31:59)

• Details: Stafford’s one-year, $55M extension with the Rams (up to $60M with incentives), total remaining $105M.

  • “Bruh. Contract extension is for one year. 55 million... up to a hundred... Oh, my goodness. 105 million remaining.” — Deebo (31:59)

• Both agree the deal is merited given Stafford’s value and current QB market trends.

  • Quote: “Being a vet, being a baller... he could have tried to go crazy and go get what, 61?... But now we can go, maybe get you another... in California.” — Joe (34:23)
  • Conversation on salary cap, taxes, and long-term career moves.

5. NFL Nutrition: Titans Overhaul & Keto Talk (18:13, 09:18)

• Titans’ Nutrition Overhaul: Head Coach Robert Salah removes seed oils; focus on “real” fats for player health.
  • Quote: “One of the first things I think we did here is get rid of all the seed oils in the building and which I think the players appreciate.” — Rob Gronkowski, as quoted by Deebo (09:46)
• Deebo’s Nutrition Philosophy: Advocates for animal fats, butter, olive/coconut oil, and low carbs (keto).
  • Quote: “My thing is this. I use fat, real fat. I use butter, I use lard, beef tallow. I would take the bacon grease from bacon I done made and cook eggs in it. Any kind of animal fat is cool.” — Deebo (10:30)

⭐ Notable Segment: Deebo’s “Formula One Car” Analogy (19:25)

• “You wanna go and say, I got a Formula One car, and in this car I’m gonna put this 87 octane... You gotta fuel it with the right thing... If you don’t, that machine’s not gonna work anymore.” — Deebo (19:25)

6. Training, Recovery, and Consistency (20:07–22:40)

• Regularity over Intensity: Both stress that consistency in training (even as low as 35 mins every other day) is more important than “going hard” after a long layoff.
  • Quote: “Just do every other day and do it... Give yourself something tangible… all that. Give yourself a recovery day.” — Joe (20:07)
• Progression Advice: Build up workout duration/frequency slowly to avoid injury.

7. Individualized Player Care & Investment

• Debate: Critique of NFL ownership’s patchy investment in individualized nutrition and recovery resources.

  • “It’s the little things... organizations are taking care of nutrition, making sure they’re getting them the shakes, making sure they’re taking whatever kind of supplements, whatever they need… Individualizing it... that’s going to take more time and that’s going to take more money because everybody isn’t built the same.” — Joe (23:56)

• Injury Prevention: Muscle imbalances measured/prevented for reducing soft tissue injuries—Hamstring/quad ratio explanation.

  • “If you get that and you individually test them, you get a player less likely to break down.” — Deebo (25:49)

8. NBA Playoff Heartbreak & Emotional Recovery

• Segment (40:02–54:05): Lighthearted banter about the NBA playoffs—Cavs vs. Knicks, pain of losing, rooting for your team against all odds, and friendly trash-talking.
  • Quote: “Y’ all doing y’ all best to show them how to lose one... You had an opportunity...” — Deebo (40:02)
  • Ongoing riff on “emotional support” after games, resilience, and father-son fandom.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On clickbait culture:
  “I let the clickbait get me. And I ain't gonna lie to you, I was tripping. I was about to go off.” — Deebo (03:09)

• On “doable” records:
  “Doable ain’t, ‘I’m about throw 50’, but just doable is, I'm out here, I'm healthy, I'm seeing what we got on the squad. Doable, like, that's just gangster.” — Joe (07:26)

• On franchise moves:
  “Sometimes you gotta switch partners if you want to get that trophy. Hell, look, LeBron did it.” — Deebo (37:03)

• On fat and carbs:
  “If you don't burn off those carbs, they turn into fat. Okay, so now you’re eating fat already there. You didn’t burn off the carbs, so now you’re stacking fat on top of the fat that you already ate.” — Deebo (11:25)

• On workout consistency:
  “Just do 35, 40 minutes every other day, and then do that. Get consistent with it. And then you can add in something.” — Joe (20:07)

• On team nutrition:
  “If I'm giving these dudes the good food instead of giving them subway... that’s going to cost more. But in the long run, you're going to get a better version and the best shape person of your player.” — Joe (23:56)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:09 | Deebo reacts to clickbait about Burrow’s touchdown claims | | 04:14-04:31 | Burrow explains “doable” and respect for word choice | | 06:27-07:24 | Discussion on offensive core, O-line’s importance, roster faith | | 18:13-19:25 | Titans’ seed oil removal, Deebo’s nutrition breakdown | | 20:07-22:40 | Training motivation, recovery strategy, incline walk story | | 31:59-35:10 | Matthew Stafford’s extension—market value and contract analysis | | 35:34-38:43 | “Should Joe Burrow leave Cincinnati?” franchise loyalty segment | | 40:02-54:05 | NBA playoffs, heartbreak and emotional support riff |

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Episode Tone and Energy

• Camaraderie: Playful “brotherly” vibe; teasing, personal anecdotes, and comic relief.
• Candid: Honest opinions about player movements, team building, and the realities of professional sports life.
• Motivational: Emphasizes consistency, self-care, and career longevity, both on and off the field.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a rich mix of NFL analysis, pro-athlete life advice, and locker-room banter. Deebo and Joe cover the game’s business side, social media traps, and personal takes on how teams can truly “take care of their investment”—their players. Lively sports rivalry chat and relatable, practical health talk make it must-listen content for football and sports fans alike.

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“The easiest way to get in shape is to never get out of shape.” — Deebo (19:25)

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[Deebo Samuel]

Let's go on over here to Cincinnati. Man Gerald Burrow raves about Bangles most talented roster in his career. Now look, before we play this town, don't play it yet. I let clickbait get me. I let the clickbait get me. And I ain't gonna lie to you, I was tripping. I was about to go off. I was about to go off. Okay, Joe. I thought when I saw it, you know, I got a little dyslexia too. So when I saw it, I thought he said he was go throw 48 touchdowns and break the record. And, you know, like it was a statement or something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So you know me, I was about to pull my olive branch back, you know, on bringing.

[Joe Burrow]

On letting him come over. Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

You know, I've been holding that thing out to him like this, man, come on over here, you know.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, no you for sure.

[Deebo Samuel]

But this is what he said. This is what he said. Listen to what he said, okay?

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[Deebo Samuel]

I think this is the most talented roster that we've had since I've been here. 47 away, 48 for breaking.

[Joe Burrow]

Doable.

[Deebo Samuel]

Thanks, Joe. See, Joe, that's a.

[Joe Burrow]

That's cool.

[Deebo Samuel]

That's a lot. That's a lot easier to deal with.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

You know, doable. Yeah, I can. I can. I can. I can respect that word. I can respect. Doable. You know what I'm saying? Again, Joe, words. Words mean things. Okay? Doable, meaning it's something that can be done. It's not gonna be easy. It's not a given. It's something that could be done. But the reason he's saying it's doable, Joe, is because he's sitting back still and he's saying, I like what they done did over here to get these pieces here and There. But what y' all done got me to keep me upright. What y' all done did to make sure I could stay safe in the pocket? It's doable if you can keep me upright and clean. That's what he's saying. But I will say this, it's doable. But I don't know how many of them you think you go get against them Pittsburgh Steelers. Because nephew ain't having it. Lil Peasy ain't having that.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay, Ain't going for that.

[Deebo Samuel]

I' ma start calling. I'm start calling. I'm gonna start calling. Little Peasy, Little Big Peasy. Cause he bigger than you now, Peasy. Your son bigger than you now.

[Joe Burrow]

He taller.

[Deebo Samuel]

He taller.

[Joe Burrow]

He taller for sure.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, hey, he might be bigger, too. Now. I'm trying to tell people, slim down. Pizza slim down. He doesn't. He done lost some height, Peasy about an inch taller than me, you know what I'm saying? He might be six one, you know what I'm saying? You know, he getting up there. I think, you know, he about 50 something, you know? You know what I'm saying? About 10 years older than me. You got to be about 52, 53, something like that. 41. 42, yeah. So listen, Joe Burrow, I'm gonna tell you it's doable, but you better do it in the mother 15 games.

[Joe Burrow]

You know why Joe Burrow said that, though? They bring a talent, that he still got his boy. He still got Jamar Chase, he still got T. Higgins. When they bring in more talent, he's talking about probably on the defensive side of the ball with some talented players. And if I'm Joe Bur and you asking me, do you think it's do if I'm out there healthy and I still got my two dogs out there, I believe in me. I believe in them. I believe in Ja' Marr Chase, I believe in T. Higgins. Now, like you said, can I be upright? It's doable if this line gonna be able to protect fool me. But if I'm out there healthy and I got Higgins, I got Ja' Marr Chase, and I'm standing on my 10 toes, I can. It's doable. I can throw 50 touchdowns, you know what I'm saying? I did like this Joe Burrow, honestly, just popping his. Like, if I see the roster, I got these dudes with me, okay? The tal on the defense, they cool. I can throw 50. It's doable. You know what I'm saying? Right? You know what I'm saying? It's doable, you know what I'm saying? Like, I, I, I'm loving his just like, doable.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, we get. I'm about to throw 50. Just wait.

[Joe Burrow]

Doable ain't doable ain't. I'm about throw 50, but just doable is. I'm out here, I'm healthy, I'm seeing what we got on the, on the squad. Doable, like, that's just gangster. I want my quarterback to be talking, he talking about 48 touchdowns. He's not talking about, like, I'm talking

[Deebo Samuel]

about nothing light now, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Burrow]

I feel like, you know what I'm saying, looking around. Yeah, I like what we did on defense. We got Dexter Lawrence, we got some talent. I think there's some more time roster. We got 48 doable. I'm like, oh, this man got the swag. I like it, Joe. I like it Joe for sure. You know what I'm saying? It's smooth. That made me like Joe even more. He ain't even, bro. And it was his, and it was his demeanor. He's just chilling. He's sitting there answering their questions. Yeah, I think it's the most talented roster. We got 48 doable. Go ahead, Joe. I just go out there, stay healthy and popped, and just do what you do.

[Deebo Samuel]

Yeah.

[Joe Burrow]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, we got, we got one year. Go ahead, start working what you need to do. Get things set up.

[Joe Burrow]

Go ahead.

[Deebo Samuel]

Then you can come on over here. You know what I'm saying? Aaron about to get seven. Aaron about to get seven. You come over here and you get

[Joe Burrow]

eight right on in.

[Deebo Samuel]

And we back to back.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Deebo Samuel]

Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing wrong with it. Joe. Joe Burrow.

[Joe Burrow]

We found, we found, we found. Look, we found the 25 for a rod, you know, we can find 60 for Joe.

[Deebo Samuel]

So holla, holla at your boy, you know?

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

Come on, Mr. Brown. Appreciate you. You know what to go to.

[Joe Burrow]

We gonna see. It's gonna be a long. It's gonna be a long. Good old, the good old afc. We're gonna see a lot of jokes. We're gonna see a lot of jokes,

[Deebo Samuel]

Joe. Gonna see a lot of the Steelers and the Browns.

[Joe Burrow]

Personal, up close and personal, you know? You know what I'm saying?

[Deebo Samuel]

Titans head coach Robert Salah said one of the first moves the team made in the nutrition overhaul was removing all seed oils from the building.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay, Debo, now tell them what's up with this. What's up with the sea oils. You Let me know. Tell the people how big this is.

[Deebo Samuel]

So let's listen to what he said first. And now I'm gonna hit him. I'm gonna hit him with a little bit of.

[Joe Burrow]

Hit him. A little knowledge.

[Deebo Samuel]

A little bit.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. No, well, 100%.

[Rob Gronkowski]

You know, I thought our, you know,

[Joe Burrow]

one of the first things I think we did here is get rid of

[Deebo Samuel]

all the seed oils in the building and Which I think the players appreciate.

[Joe Burrow]

I know they've.

[Deebo Samuel]

We've, you know, Ms. Amy has allowed

[Joe Burrow]

us to attack the budget and get the, get the players better. Better variety.

[Deebo Samuel]

I think our.

[Joe Burrow]

I'll put our staff and I mean, I've been in six different buildings and

[Rob Gronkowski]

I'd put the staff up there with,

[Joe Burrow]

with the best of them. I mean, the, The. The product they put out on in the cafeteria daily is outstanding.

[Deebo Samuel]

So the seed oil thing is kind of. Yeah. Here nor there, but depending on what, you know, research, you're looking at. Whatever. Yeah, go it like.

[Joe Burrow]

So it's just the whole nutrition overhaul.

[Deebo Samuel]

What you. Yeah, yeah. So basically, seed oil has the possibility of being bad for you or whatever it may be. My thing is this. I use fat, real fat. I use butter, I use lard, beef tallow. I would take the bacon grease from a bacon I done made and cook eggs in it. Okay. Any. Any kind of animal fat is cool. Olive oil and some, Some. Some coconut oil. But I mean, getting rid of seed oils I think helps, essentially. But again, as he said, it's the like, where are your other sources? Are they clean? Are your other sources clean, like your meat? Like, where are you getting that from? Is it natural? All the other stuff, like, is your soup, Is there other foods that you're feeding them, like super refined with other things that got cooked in seed oils through the process and Da, da, da, da. But the biggest thing for me is the combination of putting together fats and carbs, like eating carbs with fat. So when you eat fat and carbs together, like, you're compounding, because if you don't burn off those carbs, they turn into fat. Okay, so now you're eating fat already there. You didn't burn off the carbs, so now you're stacking fat on top of the fat that you already ate. So, like, what you got to do is if you don't get your body to where it can like, or you can get to where you can burn all the carbs off, then what you want to do is like, just go. I go like high fat and like moderate protein. So basically it's like keto. So what you're doing is I'm giving my body no carbs to fuel itself. So I'm telling my body use the fat. Everybody's so worried like, oh, you got to eat carbs for the energy. No you don't. Everybody got enough fat on them to survive eating fat. Your body is going to switch over to burning fat. That's like ketosis that gets you in ketogenics. You start burning a whole bunch of fat. That's why you see a lot of people that go into the keto diets and they lose all this fat because their body switches over to burning fat because you're not giving it carbs.

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[Deebo Samuel]

So for your body to get to where you're burning fat, you got to burn whatever carbs you ate already that day just to get to the fat stores. You're not giving your body carbs then you're already in the fat stores because you're feeding your body fat and it's like yo, it's just going to burn that all day. Like at some point though, I will say this, if you do it long enough, you go get to a low enough body fat where you're going to have to start eating carbs. Like, like super top athletes and all that. Yes, they need carbs. But if you're by, if you're a dude and your body fat is sitting above, you know, 15. Yeah double digit percent, you don't need carbs. That's just your mind, your body got enough fat on it and if you

[Joe Burrow]

feed it, yeah you gonna survive, like,

[Deebo Samuel]

until you get into single digits, you don't need to worry about eating no carbs, man. Like, oh, I can't do this. I can't lose weight. It's this and that, dude. Just, like, eat straight protein and eat fat.

[Joe Burrow]

You say eat fat?

[Deebo Samuel]

Good fat.

[Joe Burrow]

Good fat. Like, what's good? Give me good fats.

[Deebo Samuel]

Avocados. Huh?

[Joe Burrow]

Okay.

[Deebo Samuel]

Olive oil.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay.

[Deebo Samuel]

Butter, dude. Real butter. Not real butter. Like beef. Tallow all that, bro. Like, okay, all the fat. Like any type of animal fat. Eat all the meat you want. Yes. Like, I don't eat. I don't. I don't measure no meat.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep. Protein. Protein.

[Deebo Samuel]

All protein. All protein. Protein, bro.

[Joe Burrow]

Got you.

[Deebo Samuel]

If it, if it flies, swims, or runs, I eat as much of it as I want.

[Joe Burrow]

Boom.

[Deebo Samuel]

Like, it don't. It don't. It don't matter.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay.

[Deebo Samuel]

And then, like, the rest, like, heavy, like, like heavy cream. Like, I take and put like, like heavy whipping cream, like, in my coffee. Like, stuff like that. Like, just, like, instead of the. Just I'm going heavy, like, with everything. Like the low fat yogurt, this and that. No. Yeah, Greek yogurt. The whole, the whole kitten caboodle. Like, how do you find a diet cow? You don't. You don't find a 2% cow. It's a whole cow. They process that to get it to where it's at, use chemicals. Like, come on.

[Joe Burrow]

It's a whole milk.

[Deebo Samuel]

Like,

[Joe Burrow]

that's funny.

[Deebo Samuel]

Yeah, bro.

[Joe Burrow]

So he moving around. He doing the whole thing.

[Deebo Samuel]

Dude, this is the problem. So you want to go and say, I got a formula one car, and in this formula one car, I'm gonna put this 87 octane. And you think it's gonna run with the rest of them boys? No, it's running on 100 and something, 200 something octane, whatever it may be. No, you gotta fuel it with the right thing. You can have the coldest engine around. Dude, at some point, if you don't fuel that, that, that, that, that. That machine with the correct stuff, it's gonna gunk up and it's not gonna work anymore. You're gunking up is getting older. And as you don't feed your body the right things, it don't perform the same way. That's why you see, when you first start playing when you in college, bro, you could go out, do this, do that, man, and come back in, man, that first time you hit that 30 and you go and do this, do that, and you're like, oh, man, it's Taking me about a half day longer to recover. Go straight right back to it. Yeah. And as you get older, it takes longer and longer. And that's why we're telling people like, yo, the easiest way to get in shape is to never get out of shape. Never take off more time than you necessarily need to without at least being actively inactive if you don't do nothing but go and walk.

[Joe Burrow]

And that's the thing too, Debo. It's the consistency. People always like, I'm gonna go seven days a week. Listen, listen, listen. Just do every other day and do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna go and work out for two hours. I'm like, no, do 35, 40 minutes every other day, and then do that. Get consistent with it. And then you can add in something.

[Deebo Samuel]

Add a day.

[Joe Burrow]

You can add a day, but you just can't start off with five days. I'm gonna do five days a week. And then you miss the third day. Now you like this. Oh, I done. I messed myself up. No, no, no. Give yourself something tangible.

[Deebo Samuel]

Don't just recovery.

[Joe Burrow]

Recovery. Yes, all that. Give yourself a recovery day. So real talk of being able to be like, no, I'm gonna do 30 minutes every other day for a month. Then you get that, and then you start getting the little stuff. They're like, all right, bam, add me in today. So just the people start. I'm gonna go hard. No, you're not. You just can't go from zero to

[Deebo Samuel]

a hundred, Especially not when you get older, buddy.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes, man.

[Deebo Samuel]

Like, young.

[Joe Burrow]

You could.

[Deebo Samuel]

You could go do that. You could fight through some soreness and all that. You know what I'm saying? You got. You got. You got. You got youth on your side. You could do it. You could do a little bit of that. But people are like, man, I've been out of it so long, man. You know, I ain't really worked out in the last, you know, 10, 15 years, bro, your ass and tear. They're talking about you going five days a. One day on, one day off, one day on, one day off, until you get to where you're not sore anymore. Then you could go in two days, one day off, two days, one day. Like, make sure you build up to it. You can't just jump in the fire and don't.

[Joe Burrow]

And there's other part. Don't run in this thing and just all of a sudden think, you better just work on the. You could do body weight. Body weight stuff is crazy. Where you doing a lot of core a Lot of. Just abs. A lot of that stuff. You'd be sitting there sweating crazily, and that's what you need to do. Just don't think I'm gonna go get under the bench. I'm trying to do curls. No, no, no. Get your core, get your. Get your. Man. You got to work the little parts. You know what I'm saying? So just simple stuff, and that's going to get you going. Move.

[Deebo Samuel]

Incline walk, Joe. The incline walk that I do every day, dude, that will burn off, man.

[Joe Burrow]

Like, you had me sweating bullets.

[Deebo Samuel]

You thought we was just going for a walk.

[Joe Burrow]

I thought we was going for a walk. You said we gonna walk for an hour. I said, I don't care what happens. I don't care how messed up I am. I can walk for an hour. That thing had us incline. We had us turn around when it hit 30 minutes, and I started breathing crazy hard, and I was just sweating, just dripping on the jump. I'm like, oh, yeah, now I gotta turn it up and not let myself down. I'm not stopping. I'm not stopping. But we working. We not walking no more.

[Deebo Samuel]

For sure, for sure, for sure, brother. I guess their quarterback, Cam Ward, says he lost 10 pounds this offseason. Ward says, I think it'll help me with durability, just being faster, getting up in the pocket and trying to play my speed. I watch my diet more, continue to have more cardio. Just work on my body just now here, just now here. And when I'm away from the building. Dang. Sound like everybody doing something. They. They moving everything over. Like, is doing big things over there. They understanding the whole concept. Yo, you know, the crazy thing is a lot of these coaches, a lot of these teams, I think it's just like the. The NFL in general. Maybe the ownership just don't understand the concept of what you could get out of your players if you give them the correct.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

Things to fuel their body and recover their body. Like, is this your best. Dude, when I was in Cincinnati, bro, they was eating Airmark. The stadium food was making the food, like, for the. For. I was like, I couldn't believe it, bro. Yeah, Like, I couldn't believe it. Like, it was the craziest thing ever. Like, cold cuts and all that. I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Burrow]

If you look at it, you got, like, the same way we talk about the field all the time is the same way, like, ownership. If they really looked at it, like, as people, what do I need to make my investment better? If I'm giving these dudes the good food instead of giving them subway. It's the. It's the little things of where organizations are taking care of nutrition, making sure they're getting them the shakes, making sure they're taking whatever kind of supplements, whatever they need, you know what I'm saying? Individualizing it. And that's going to take more time and that's going to take more money because everybody isn't built the same. You don't need what I need, you know what I'm saying? So the quicker that teams are really starting to understand, all right, turf is. Grass is more expensive, but it's going to help our players, their bodies, you know what I'm saying? What do we need food? We can just get in these cold cuts, you know what I'm saying? They can have them things running in. Or can I go specifically, my linebacker here needs to lose a little bit weight. Can I get them on a program where I have somebody specifically taking care of. That's going to cost more. But in the long run, you're going to get a better version and the best shape person of your player. So it's like, are you going to go and go that extra mile where it's like just knowing. Because the dudes, when you come into the league, you don't know what you don't know. They're giving you the fools and you only to meet dudes like you to meet dudes like Cam that actually have people outside of the joint that are taking care of you. Really doing the dry needles, really making sure, like, nah, I got this person for you. This masseuse is going to make sure you get right. I got this person, I got this chamber, the hyperbaric. We're going to go in there and get right until you find that the quicker. If the organization comes in there and it already have, soon as these rookies come in, we got nutritionists, we got the real dry needling people. We know what this is going to do. And even if they start taking care of some of this stuff, it's ex.

[Deebo Samuel]

Oh, yo, yo, I got you.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, okay. It gets a little expensive. So as long as they start taking care of that, like just knowing when you do stuff with your investment, it can really. You can get it on the back end. Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

I mean, like even like when you look at like, like, like the training staff, all the other stuff, like, like just the soft tissue injuries that, that we have, like muscle tears and all that other strains, like, dude, that's nothing but muscle imbalance. Or weakness, you know. And if you get that and you actually sit there and individualize each person's workout and test them individualized, you'll get a player to be able to where he's less than that death.

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[Deebo Samuel]

That's, you know, a risk. Yeah, hamstrings, calves, quads, all that other stuff.

[Joe Burrow]

When we were, when I was playing for the Steelers, we would take that little test and he would have like you knew if your hamstring was about to get ready to, you know what I'm saying? Like they were like, I know your hamstrings are, there's something up with it a little bit. And they would just start working on your hamstrings. Like your hamstrings are a little weaker so we need to start working on them. I remember that was something that I had when I was there. That guy was like, nah, something's up with your hamstrings a little bit. And I would just start working on my hamstrings my.

[Deebo Samuel]

More. Yeah, it's just all. Like I said, it's all dependent on what your. Your deficiency is and what that imbalance is. Usually they use a. Like a machine and you'll use. Where you do hard quad work and you do hard hamstring work, and you measure the difference between the two, you know, through that. And then you try and, you know, get that difference to where it's less than 10, preferably less than 5, is. Is the case. But like, that's considered like perfection anytime. Zero to five is considered perfection. Ten is when you start running into issues. And anything over that. It ain't about when it's. I mean, it ain't about if. It's about when, when, when you go pull it. So the reigning NFL mvp, Matthew Stafford is officially tied to the Los Angeles Rams for the next two years after the Rams announced they have extended Stafford's contract. Bruh. Contract extension is for one year. 55 million.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

The deal is worth up to 60 million with incentives. Stafford now has two years and up to a hundred. Oh, my goodness. 105 million remaining on his contract with the Raiders, says Schefter. Yo. Yes. I told you that boy won.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes. Sounds. This is exactly right. That's exactly what's supposed to happen. Market, he's balling. His team is doing great. That's basically say at 105, is averaging around 50, 55, 56 a year. You know what I'm saying? So solid.

[Deebo Samuel]

They picked up Simpson, right?

[Joe Burrow]

You said what?

[Deebo Samuel]

They picked up Ty, right?

[Joe Burrow]

Yep. Yeah, they picked up Ty. But you know what? It's in the. Yes. Ties in the A Rod.

[Deebo Samuel]

Two years, it's yours. And two.

[Joe Burrow]

Just look, watch and grow. Watch and grow. Watch. Learn from them.

[Deebo Samuel]

Learn from man.

[Joe Burrow]

Learn from them.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, man, take everything from me.

[Joe Burrow]

You like telling you literally, you're a tick, you're gonna be learning from. You gonna be learning from batting up

[Deebo Samuel]

on him for sure. Get all the information you can, baby.

[Joe Burrow]

Because that man, Matthew Stafford, though, bro, deserves every dollar he's throwing the ball. Amazing. Still, I think he's going to the Hall. Nothing like it's no reason. When they lost, I think their defense kind of let them down. It was not because of any. Anything on the offensive side of the ball they put up.

[Deebo Samuel]

I told you the defense problems.

[Joe Burrow]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. So with this contract, with this extension, Making sure you're gonna be there for the next two. Right up there with the highest paid quarterbacks deservingly. So like when you see that Dax making 60 and he just got the 55 extension, the numbers are what, the numbers are so like it just, it's just up there. That's what it is. Matthew Stafford high one of them dudes, he didn't go reset the market. He's under, you know what I'm saying? Under what the highest paid dudes are making. So I mean it is what it is.

[Deebo Samuel]

How is he under with the highest paid dudes is making dudes up there? He said at least got a year for like 60 with a, with a, with a, with a, with an extra five on top.

[Joe Burrow]

That's what I'm doing though. That's what you do when you are Matthew Stafford and with the Rams, it's no what we gonna be sitting here messing around with the 5 mil where it's like, end of the day, I'm good, you guys are good. We're in a good.

[Deebo Samuel]

I don't know. But out there in la, man, hell, that's, you know.

[Joe Burrow]

There you go, Debo. But look, come on, man. That, that 55, he's, he's hard, he's chilling. You and taxes do not get along. I, I, I feel you. But just with Matthew Stafford being a vet, being a baller, it's not, it's when you say he could have tried to go crazy and go get what, 61 try to like, I mean, it wouldn't have been nothing they can say.

[Deebo Samuel]

Just show him a little bit of respect, man. Game, game.

[Joe Burrow]

That's a broken 55 million dollar extension. That's what I love about him is like, what are we talking about here? Like you what with that 55, what you gonna be able to do different that you couldn't do with that 60? I hear you. That's five mil. But now we can go, maybe we can go get you another in California.

[Deebo Samuel]

You're right.

[Joe Burrow]

It ain't much.

[Deebo Samuel]

Might not be no more than a mil and a half.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes, man. Let that man live. That man Matthew Stafford. Shoot. Shout out to him. Shout out to. No, look, pass. Shout out to him. Getting drafted and still balling. He was doing it with the Lions and now it's not his fault. It's not his fault.

[Deebo Samuel]

Let me, let me go back to that. Now that I was just, that, that just refreshed my head, Joe. Burrow, burrow.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, Lord, yes.

[Deebo Samuel]

What you got for see what Stafford did? Got up out Of Detroit. And when Gotti one almost had two. Joe Burrow. Get out of Cincinnati. You don't want to die there. You don't want your career to die there. No, sir. I don't want it for you.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Deebo Samuel]

It hurts my heart to think about it.

[Joe Burrow]

Nobody does.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hurts my heart.

[Joe Burrow]

Nobody wants that form.

[Deebo Samuel]

Such talent. Talent sitting there wasting Cincinnati bungles.

[Joe Burrow]

We got this year. This year going. This year. This year is the. This year is the make or break, brother. Debo.

[Deebo Samuel]

Listen, after we go get this one, go upstairs, talk to Mr. Brown, and you tell him, you gotta go,

[Joe Burrow]

man.

[Deebo Samuel]

Gotta go. There's no need. There's no need.

[Joe Burrow]

I don't think if we go get it. I don't know if Joe Burrow gonna. He probably. He. He probably just know. He's that man. He probably want to do it himself.

[Deebo Samuel]

Dude, what are you talking about? Look at Mayfield.

[Joe Burrow]

Who? Baker.

[Deebo Samuel]

Baker in Cleveland said, hey, look, Baker had to go.

[Joe Burrow]

Baker had a whole different trajectory. Nobody's beating down Cleveland.

[Deebo Samuel]

He would have still been.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, oh, oh, okay.

[Deebo Samuel]

I know you've been in Cleveland. That would just be. You know, hey, sometimes. Although the organization brought you in, that ain't gonna do it. Dang. Who gonna be your dancing partner all night? You know, sometimes you gotta. Sometimes you gotta. Sometimes you gotta switch partners if you want to get that trophy. Hell, look, LeBron did it.

[Joe Burrow]

LeBron James.

[Deebo Samuel]

LeBron James.

[Joe Burrow]

He had to.

[Deebo Samuel]

Couple times.

[Joe Burrow]

Look, they weren't getting the pieces around them in the Cavs at first that they needed, and he had to go there and learn how to get the ship. Went and got it done with Dwayne Wade and them, then came back, and then we had the pieces. They got Kyrie, Kevin Love, and everybody squab.

[Deebo Samuel]

That's what I'm talking about. This ain't gonna be the first time, but like I said, we got a year. You got time to think on it. We go help you with that decision when we play you a couple times a year, for sure. But, you know, you don't want to end up in a situation, you know, that you're already in and staying there and not being able to get back to where you went, you know, went. There was first, second, third year or something like that. Now you may not never see it again. Everybody think it's easy to get back. They don't realize how much work it took there and how much luck and. And, and, and, and, and. And. And sacrifice and all the pieces that go with that, you know, to. To get there.

[Joe Burrow]

Joe, I'm gonna bring Back.

[Deebo Samuel]

Look at the calves.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah. What about.

[Deebo Samuel]

They thought they had it and they didn't.

[Joe Burrow]

There's no way you can run it back around to the Cavs losing that game.

[Deebo Samuel]

What you mean? It's the same thing.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, and then. Don't. And then. And then Baker Mayfield. Bro. Baker Mayfield was balling for the Browns. Went to the playoffs and won. We just should have signed him to a little extension. He would have been fine.

[Deebo Samuel]

No, he would have been there. Losing again.

[Joe Burrow]

We won to the playoffs. We was on. He was on a nice trajectory. And we ended up one playoff game

[Deebo Samuel]

in the last 30 years. Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Brother. But Baker Mayfield. He wasn't there for 30 years. During Baker Mayfield's time, he did what he had to do. We was getting. We was on an upward trajectory. And then we ended up thinking that we was going to do this. No, that's what I'm saying. But it has nothing to do with Baker Mayfield. We serviced him to a little bit longer. He'd have been good.

[Deebo Samuel]

Synonymous. They go together.

[Joe Burrow]

Cavs won the ship. Cavs won the ship.

[Deebo Samuel]

True statement.

[Joe Burrow]

Cavs got that. Cass got that ring. Yeah. So you know we just trying to get to. You know. We right there. We Eastern quit. Eastern Conference finals again.

[Deebo Samuel]

Y'. All. Y' all doing y' all best to show them how to lose one. You just showed them how to lose one. You had an opportunity to. At least game one was kicked in in the finals. You don't even get that opportunity anymore. It's over with. With no way.

[Joe Burrow]

4. Nixon. What you saying? Nixon.

[Deebo Samuel]

4. Nixon.

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4.

[Joe Burrow]

You crazy out your mind.

[Deebo Samuel]

They go close it out at your place. Popping champagne bottles in your locker room.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, and that's going to be the game four is on Monday. And that's the game I will be at. So you telling me we about to lose.

[Deebo Samuel]

You telling

[Joe Burrow]

Saturday and Monday. I'mma talk to you before game four on the show.

[Deebo Samuel]

You said you're going right?

[Joe Burrow]

And we gonna be

[Deebo Samuel]

going right?

[Joe Burrow]

I'm going to. Yeah. I'm going to the game on Monday.

[Deebo Samuel]

Okay.

[Joe Burrow]

Game four.

[Deebo Samuel]

Okay. That will be. I don't. Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

What? Wow.

[Deebo Samuel]

Joe. You think, like that is going to crush you. Do you want me to go with you? Like, do you want me to show up after the game to be there for you? I will do that. Cause it's only an hour and a half drive. I will be there because I. You're going to be crushed. You may not even be able to walk. Like, I will have to carry you. Like the way you say your soul is hurting and watch them get a fake.

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[Deebo Samuel]

It's kicked in at home. Popping bottles in the locker room. You want me to come there?

[Joe Burrow]

Honestly? Honestly? Honestly, no. Not with this energy.

[Deebo Samuel]

Honestly, no. I'm there in support of you.

[Joe Burrow]

Okay. Are you gonna be wearing Cavs gear? You gonna be supporting Joe?

[Deebo Samuel]

I'm coming after the game to get you out of there. You go be in a ball, a heap of lump and nothing but just tears and sorrow. This man, it's funny.

[Joe Burrow]

I'm gonna know more how I'm gonna feel after game three because if, okay,

[Deebo Samuel]

after game three, when you lose, you might not want to show up to Monday. You might want to get sick. That's going to. You don't want to show up for if after you lose game three. Joe, don't go Monday. It's going to be a start to a horrible week. It takes a while when you're not playing that game to get over this, because you relive it, you replay it back. You know what I'm saying? And you got to watch it. You can't not watch it now, Joe. This is what we do.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, I'm definitely watching. I'm definitely watching. And just. I'm not going to talk to you, though.

[Deebo Samuel]

How you not talking to me, Joe? We got a show Tuesday.

[Joe Burrow]

Oh, after the game. After the game. I'm definitely. Okay. No, I'm not talking to you after the game three, Win or lose, I'm just going to talk to you on Monday before game four. Cause I don't want it. I don't want to talk trash to you. I just want all of it to be fresh. I want all of it to be fresh.

[Deebo Samuel]

What about Tuesday, Joe? What you gonna do Tuesday Morning, Joe? Depending after y' all just got popped. Joe, I'm trying to come there and help you.

[Joe Burrow]

Pull up. Pull up, Debo. Pull up.

[Deebo Samuel]

Goodness, man.

[Joe Burrow]

Pull up. Pull up. Like.

[Deebo Samuel]

I don't understand what's wrong with you kids nowadays, man. Y' all know y' all can't take. When y'. All. Y' all get hurt.

[Joe Burrow]

It's cause I care.

[Deebo Samuel]

You got everything put on.

[Joe Burrow]

Cause I care.

[Deebo Samuel]

It don't make sense, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

I care.

[Deebo Samuel]

Your kids seeing you moping around, your wife seeing you moping around, she gotta stand up and put the pants on, Joe. No, no, no. Daddy's sick. He ain't crying over the Cleveland and the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Browns. He's a man still, I think.

[Joe Burrow]

Shut up, man.

[Deebo Samuel]

He's still your daddy. You go show him some respect.

[Joe Burrow]

She goes, my boys was mad, too. My boy's dad. Did the Cavs win? No. Hey, man, past their bedtime, they gotta go to sleep waking up. Dad did the cast, son.

[Deebo Samuel]

You don't. You don't put them into a hole, man. And now they ain't got. Ain't no basketball team over here for them to root for.

[Joe Burrow]

We room for the Cavs over here. We room for the Cavs over here.

[Deebo Samuel]

Joe. Joe, if they lose game three, you going to game four. Four. Yeah, for real.

[Joe Burrow]

They lose game three, I'm still going to game four. I got to. But I don't believe in us losing game three. We're going to defend our same. We got to defend our home turf. I'm saying this, but I'm still. I can't

[Deebo Samuel]

listen to what you're saying. You don't believe it.

[Joe Burrow]

I do.

[Deebo Samuel]

It's not in your heart, Joe. You ever watch the boys. You ever watch the boys on. On prime, man?

[Joe Burrow]

No, I haven't watched mind readers.

[Deebo Samuel]

I haven't watched people's minds to see what they really feel in their heart. If they was reading your mind right now, Joe, they know I can hear it. The chat can hear it. The chat can hear it in your words. They could. They could feel it that you. It's nothing there. They saying, don't worry, Joe. They know you worry. Why would they tell you, don't worry if they don't know you worried if they don't feel you already worried.

[Joe Burrow]

Hey, man, it's been a rough day today on this side. I ain't gonna lie.

[Deebo Samuel]

Joe, is there the reason you wearing no sunglasses? Were you crying all night?

[Joe Burrow]

I'm a little puffy.

[Deebo Samuel]

Oh, my goodness, Joe, thanks.

[Joe Burrow]

I ain't cry. I ain't cry. I ain't crying.

[Deebo Samuel]

Cry.

[Joe Burrow]

I ain't that sad.

[Deebo Samuel]

You ain't that sad. You ain't crying.

[Joe Burrow]

I was just.

[Deebo Samuel]

More.

[Joe Burrow]

It was more. It was more like. It was more.

[Deebo Samuel]

You did that. I don't wanna.

[Joe Burrow]

I don't wanna want it more than they. I can't want it more than they want it.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, that's what it sound like to me.

[Joe Burrow]

That's all I'm. That's all I'm saying.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, Joe, I don't wanna.

[Joe Burrow]

Wanna do it.

[Deebo Samuel]

Ain't that what you say to somebody that be asking you about this and asking you about that? Say, I wanna do this, I wanna do that. But then when it come time to do it, they don't want to do it. I can't want it more for you than you want it for yourself.

[Joe Burrow]

I can't want it more than you want it for yourself. Cause I done did. I done did it. That's what I tell myself. That's what I gotta tell. I can't want it more than you want it. Cause it's not for me. I done did my thing. Thing. It's all this. This is yours.

[Deebo Samuel]

I don't think James Harden want to play no defense. You want to go talk to him.

[Joe Burrow]

That's. It's just what I'm telling you right now. I love the beard, but when I'm telling. When I speak on, I say, joe, I like the beard.

[Deebo Samuel]

Okay. A lot. Okay.

[Joe Burrow]

I think he has a great offensive game. He can dribble the ball amazingly. The ball handling package is unbelievable. All I need, though, is this. This is what I'm saying. I know you're not a great defensive player, but coach don't put James Harden out there on Jalen Brunson anymore. And then James. Just move. Just move. I need effort. I need you to just for me, show me that you. I know you want it. I know you want it.

[Deebo Samuel]

I think his beard too heavy. He can't move as fast as he needs to. He might want to cut some of it off. Off.

[Joe Burrow]

No, don't mess with his beard. The beer is fine. The beer is fine.

[Deebo Samuel]

I don't know. He looks stiff through the neck.

[Joe Burrow]

Sometime when he moved like that, he

[Deebo Samuel]

be trying like he. He ain't getting over there.

[Joe Burrow]

I don't know. All I know, the games are lit. I ain't even get to tell you. I went out to Oklahoma City the other day to got to scout the competition. I went to game two out of Oklahoma City the other day. What? Yeah.

[Deebo Samuel]

Got what competition, bro? Y' all is not getting out of this.

[Joe Burrow]

I did. I went out there and I saw.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, you seen what happened? Game two, too. Hey, that man.

[Joe Burrow]

That man.

[Deebo Samuel]

Hey, Wendy can't put that out every game like that.

[Joe Burrow]

This is what happened. They did a great job. It's a little bit of coaching. They didn't put the little. The shorter guys on him. They put Hartenstein just to put that body on him. I seen Wimby in person. He's humongous. His. The thing that threw me off was his foot, his shoes about this tall. It's not even how. It's probably about a 23, but his foot about this tall. His shoes, shoe. That's the crazy part. I'm like, how's he running around carrying these big boats on his feet? That's what was throwing me off the whole time.

[Deebo Samuel]

He looks.

[Joe Burrow]

He's bro standing over everybody but his feet. Running around was the. Was the craziest part. But Hartenstein just kept laying the body on him because he's light. He might be victim weight because he's, like, tall, but once he's get the

[Deebo Samuel]

200, ain't no way he under 200, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

No, no. He was, man. All right, all right. They say 230 because he's 7 foot 6. So 230. 7 foot 6. That's.

[Deebo Samuel]

That might as well be victim weight.

[Joe Burrow]

That mean you all the way up there. 230, like, that's a lot. That's real skinny with it. But he was doing a great job just keeping him out of the paint. So good games.

[Deebo Samuel]

Mm.

[Joe Burrow]

Good ball.

[Deebo Samuel]

That's. Hey, that's a good thing. But that wasn't you scouting. That was you looking at looking at greatness. You wanted to see what it looked like because you had forgot what it looked like after you seen what happened to him when with 7:40 left in the first game, you know, against New York, you seen what happened to the Cavs and you wanted to go see what greatness looked like. That's all that was. Joe, you wasn't stopping nothing. You know, you winning the series that you got right now. It's okay, Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Deebo Samuel]

Look here man, we gonna keep it moving, but we gonna keep it moving. Look here. Hey, we are out of time anyway. It's about time for us to go.

[Joe Burrow]

Yes.

[Deebo Samuel]

Wanna do is we wanna thank you guys for joining us us on this episode of Debo and Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Yep.

[Deebo Samuel]

Make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your podcast. Joe.

[Joe Burrow]

Yo, we will see y' all on Monday. Let's root for these cast. Let's hope it's gonna be what it's gonna be. But I'll see y' all on Monday.

[Deebo Samuel]

And we out. It's gonna be what it's gonna be.

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