Deebo & Joe - Part 2: REACTION to AJ Brown trade to Patriots + OBJ RETURNS to New York

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe – Part 2

REACTION to AJ Brown Trade to Patriots + OBJ RETURNS to New York

Date: June 2, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Shay Shay Media & Playmaker)
Guests: Deebo & Joe

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Deebo and Joe deliver a lively, insightful breakdown of the latest NFL shockwaves: A.J. Brown’s blockbuster trade to the New England Patriots, Odell Beckham Jr.’s (OBJ) emotional return to the Giants, and Russell Wilson transitioning to a TV career. The discussion is loaded with real-time reactions, player analysis, reflections on team-building philosophies, and plenty of authentic banter between the co-hosts.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. A.J. Brown Traded to the Patriots – Initial Reactions

(03:00 – 10:15)

• Deebo's Perspective:

  • Surprised that the Eagles dealt A.J. Brown for what he saw as minimal return, emphasizing the impact of Brown’s public wish to leave and its effect on his trade value.
  • “He made it known that he ain't really want to be there... You know, Cat just reading the book on the sideline doing, you know. Yeah, doing stuff like that dude.” (03:30)

• Joe’s Take:

  • Optimistic about the trade for both sides, mainly New England.
  • Highlights A.J. Brown's prior relationship with Patriots’ current coaches and his value as a top receiver for a young quarterback, Drake May.
  • “You're coming to a team that's already locked in, already good enough to go... So you don't want to come in there throwing off no bad vibes.” (04:29)

• Draft Philosophy Debate:

  • Joe argues in favor of teams trading picks for proven talent ("I'm effed in picks, too"), citing the high risk of draft busts vs. the known quantity of established players.
  • “I see A.J. Brown. He's done it in the league, you know what I'm saying? So you don't know. Oh, they can grow, they can get cool.” (06:31)

• Deebo on Eagles’ Side:

  • Wishes Philly could've received more in the trade but admits dynamics made that tough.

• Lighthearted Moment:

  • The hosts mock an AI-generated childhood image of A.J. Brown in a Pats jersey, joking about obvious editing and Brown's intent to troll fans.
    • “It definitely, definitely thousand percent. AI. Yeah, he being funny. I've been wanting to be there since I was a child.” (10:02, Joe)
    • “He gotta be trolling. 100 trolling, bro.” (10:15, Deebo)

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2. Odell Beckham, Jr. Returns to the Giants

(10:32 – 12:47)

• Deebo’s Announcement:

  • “Odell Beckham signed to the Giants. They say he will return to New York where he began his NFL career. What do you think of this? You like it?” (10:36)

• Joe’s View:

  • Welcomes the move as a feel-good reunion, not expecting OBJ to serve as a primary receiver but sees value in mentorship and experience.
  • “He's gonna be able to get out there, show them dudes what's done. And I think it's just a feel good story for me too.” (11:08)

• Roster Deep-Dive & Humor:

  • Playful exchange with Deebo, who doubts OBJ’s ranking on the receiver depth chart.
  • Joke about a “dancing squad” with OBJ and Juju Smith-Schuster on the roster.
  • Both agree the Giants’ WR room is crowded, raising questions about roster cuts and who will secure a 53-man spot.
  • “It's thick over there. It's deep... Somebody ain't gonna be there. I don't know who it is.” (12:02, Deebo)

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3. Russell Wilson Pauses Football for CBS Sports

(13:16 – 21:18)

• Debate on “Pause” vs. Retirement:

  • Deebo and Joe are skeptical that Wilson's TV stint is merely a "pause" and discuss whether he’s done as a player (15:10+).

• How Will Wilson Translate to TV?

  • Both hosts question Wilson's TV presence, with candid commentary on his “monotone” delivery and perceived lack of media “spark.”
  • “It's like monotone. It's just like... I don't know if it adds to people, you don't know to like, listen. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's like. It's Russell. Like, I want to tune in to hear him…” (18:09, Deebo)
  • Still, both root for him and praise his character: “That man, dude, he's so nice, bro, that you actually question yourself.” (21:38, Deebo)

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4. A Browns Fan’s Emotional Spiral

(22:09 – 27:33)

• Joe’s Browns Therapy Session:

  • Joe vents about the heartbreak of the Myles Garrett trade and doubts about his team’s future.
  • “First thing that I thought was, never, ever, ever believe anything Andrew Berry says.” (22:28, Joe)

• Deebo Tries to Console Him:

  • Comedic exchange as Deebo jokes about calling a wellness check for Joe’s post-trade sadness.
  • Deebo plays the “therapy dog” role: "That's something that I think I can get him to understand and help him work through." (28:32)

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5. The State of the Browns & NFL Team Building

(27:33 – 43:14)

• Rosters, Draft Pessimism, and Future Hopes:

  • Joe copes with the Browns’ streak of disappointing seasons, pivots to focusing on future draft picks and the hope for Shador Sanders as a franchise QB.
  • Deebo is skeptical, pointing to organizational dysfunction and warning the Browns might draft another QB soon if things don’t click.

• Facilities & Cleveland Life:

  • Humorous back-and-forth about Cleveland’s grass, stadium changes, and what remains hopeful about the franchise environment.

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6. Super Chats & Fan Interaction

(32:11 – 46:38)

• The hosts regularly acknowledge live comments and questions from fans, answering with candid and sometimes comedic responses.
• Deebo fields a jab about his reading skills (“my man Debo can't read”, 44:36) and deflects with humor and pride in his undrafted status.

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7. Around the NFL: Rams’ Super Bowl Hopes & Star Moves

(40:43 – 45:48)

• Impact of Myles Garrett on Rams:
  • Joe and Deebo debate whether adding a single superstar like Garrett guarantees a championship.
  • “It don't guarantee a ring, but it guarantees them a ring if he was on that team last year.” (41:26, Deebo)
  • Joe breaks down LA’s roster strengths and praises their coaching/playmaking mix.

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8. NBA Playoffs Brief

(47:25 – 48:07)

• Closing predictions for the Spurs in their playoff series, showing both hosts’ confidence in the team.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On AJ Brown to NE:
  • “I think the Patriots, they're doing some stuff like the Rams, you're trying to... you're a little bit away.” (04:29, Joe)
  • “He made it known that he ain't really want to be there... so it was probably kind of hard for them to get the maximum amount of capital for him.” (03:30, Deebo)
• On OBJ's Role:
  • “He’s gonna be able to get out there, show them dudes what's done. And, I think it's just a feel good story for me too.” (11:08, Joe)
• On Russell Wilson’s TV Future:
  • “He's so nice, bro, that you actually question yourself—is he joking? Is he plotting on me? This is him. Consistently 100 genuine dude all the time.” (21:38, Deebo)
• On Browns’ Woes:
  • “First thing that I thought was, never, ever, ever believe anything Andrew Berry says.” (22:28, Joe)
• On Playoff Impact Players:
  • “Miles Garrett gets sacks… you put Miles Garrett on the field and your defense is better no matter what.” (43:14, Joe)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• AJ Brown Trade Discussion: 03:00 – 10:15
• OBJ Returns to Giants: 10:32 – 12:47
• Russell Wilson TV Move: 13:16 – 21:18, 18:09
• Joe's Browns Meltdown / Therapy Session: 22:09 – 27:33
• Roster & Draft Strategy Debate: 27:33 – 43:14
• Rams Super Bowl Debate / NFL Player Impact: 40:43 – 45:48
• Super Chats / Fan Q&A: 32:11, recurring throughout
• NBA Playoff Predictions: 47:25 – 48:07

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Tone & Style

• Candid and Playful: The conversation’s tone is friendly, unfiltered, and often comedic, with frequent teasing, jokes, and good-natured ribbing between Deebo and Joe.
• Insightful Player Perspectives: Both hosts leverage their NFL backgrounds to provide deep analysis on player trades, team-building, and locker room dynamics.
• Audience-Focused: Regular responses to live chat questions, maintaining high audience engagement.

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In Summary

This episode delivers an energetic, insightful rundown of league-changing NFL moves through the eyes (and emotions) of Deebo and Joe. The show is equal parts football punditry, locker-room storytelling, and “group therapy” session for long-suffering Browns fans. If you want detailed player analysis, honest perspectives, and plenty of unscripted laughs, this episode is a must-listen.

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Transcript

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

Hey, man, listen, man. Meanwhile, look here, man. The Patriots traded for the Eagles wide receiver A.J. brown in a blockbuster deal, man. Blockbuster deal. GM Howie Roseman. He said, I think he felt that for his family, at this stage of his career, it was something that he was desiring, that he was looking forward to. And in all of. And in all our conversations, he was very positive about his experiences in Philly. Just felt like going forward here was something that he preferred, huh? Nah, look here, man. Yeah, that's just goofy. He just talking. He just running his mouth. He said he wasn't gonna get. He also said that he wasn't gonna give AJ up for nothing. I feel like you gave AJ up in this for, like. For minimum. Like, I. Well, also, you got. AJ Was. You know, he was. He really want to be there. He made it known that he ain't really want to be there. So it was. You know, it was probably kind of hard for them to get the maximum amount of capital for him, considering that he had already put it out there, like, yo, I ain't trying to be here. I don't want to be here. Y' all ain't using me correctly. You know all that. You know, how you. How you think it's Gonna look for A.J. over there? You think he go. He gonna regret going there? You think the Patriots may regret maybe getting him or how you think that's.

[Joe]

I think it's gonna work out beautifully. I think since he played for the coach before, he was always. He was in the last situation with Philly, you know what I'm saying? And I know getting to wars. He's getting a little older in his career, so now it's like. It's more what you gonna do. And I think with Drake May, with him being with the coach already before knowing that situation, they already were down there in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? We're in the super bowl, so you're coming to a team that's already locked in, already good enough to go. So you don't want to come in there throwing off no bad vibes. You want to come in there as the number one receiver, helping out your young quarterback and try to help them to win a Super Bowl. So with me, and being able to play with that coach before, so with me, I think it's a good Trade. I think the Patriots, they're doing some stuff like the Rams, you're trying to. You know what, you're a little bit away. The Patriots receiver last year they had Stepon Diggs, but they didn't really have no guy that I felt like they could just get open on one on one, one on one coverage. So I think with getting him to the team, being able to help out Drake Mayday, rookie quarterback. I mean, the younger quarterback I think is going to be super big for them. So a shout out to the Patriots,

[Debo]

I think. Yeah, I think the Patriots did a good job. And I just, I feel like. I really feel like if they. Well, they couldn't. But Philly could have got. I feel like they could have got more for him, for him, but they obviously couldn't get more because of all the dynamics of how he, you know, dealt with the stuff, you know, especially publicly and, you know, how he wanted to get away. You know, Cat just reading the book on the sideline doing, you know. Yeah, doing stuff like that dude. And with him already having, you know, a relationship with Variable from over there in Tennessee. I think Variable, you know, obviously must or thinks at least he has a good understanding and relationship with him, that he feels that this is not something that would happen, you know, over at the Matrix.

[Joe]

Feels like their relationship was good enough.

[Debo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

You know, they show and I'm to the mindset of I'm effed in picks too. Honestly. I like that's why when the Browns is building it, that's for the future. That's hit or miss. You gotta make sure you hit on who you pick. It could be bust. So that's why when the good teams. That first round pick, I see Trent McDuffie with my own eyes. I see A.J. brown. He's done it in the league, you know what I'm saying? So you don't know. Oh, they can grow, they can get cool. That's why Jared Verse at the same time, we got a first round pick for him. But Jared Verse is two years in, two Pro Bowls. That's a first round pick. If you can get him in the first round. I would want Jared Verse in the first round. So sign me up for that. So that's why I'm more in the favor if you're a good team and these picks are good, you know what I'm saying? But if you need a quarterback, it's more like, boom, I need that or you want to go specifically at somebody. But if you can go look at a free agent and These dudes that are kind of like coming up on their first contract, coming right out of their rookie deals and you see one that you like and you know, I, I'm going to go get a baller here, go get that. So you know that you don't have to. There's a chance that if he hits then we're good. You're not just sitting on that. I'd rather have a guarantee. Oh, no, I know McDuffie. I see tape. He can guard number ones in the NFL right now. You go draft somebody like, oh no, his speed, he looks good, man, at South Carolina, man, he getting bust out here, you know what I'm saying? So like, like, dude, what happened? We drafted him in the seventh round. What happened? Oh, I mean the first round. What happened? Yeah, so you can go get Nick Herbic fourth round picks. You start getting those and like now would you rather trade him and get a first round pick for Nick Herbic? Yes, because I know now that Nick Herbic wasn't a fourth round pick. I've seen him. He deserves to be coming for a first round pick. So when dudes start looking at players like that, if you hit on those picks, then it, then it's good. If you miss on those first round picks that ended up being somebody you thought was going to be nice. Ah, they're not as good. That's why I'm with those. Oh, I see Nick.

[Debo]

Well, y', all, y' all been more hit than miss. I, I will say I know we've been more missed than hit, you know, at least over the course of our last, since, you know, 2016, like the, they've been trading all they stuff away. We've been missing.

[Joe]

Yeah. You know, so I think with them you gotta go. If you're, if you're a team that is a player away and you got that first round pick and you go see somebody like that go get them. So I'm like, they went and addressed the need. They needed a receiver to go help out their quarterback because that's, I think the one. That one thing that they was missing.

[Debo]

I don't, I don't know, I think they had a combination of things. I don't think the one receiver for me would have, would have, would have got them that Super Bowl. They was getting locked down too many places and had too many holes. I think on, on offense to be able to be like, okay, that one person like with la. Yeah. Rams. Yeah. Miles there. Super.

[Joe]

Miles at Super Bowl.

[Debo]

Super. No question, no question about it. I guess the NFL. They. They clowning. They said NFL World Clowning. A.J. brown for posting her AI generated photo of him wearing a Patriots jersey as a kid. It said Nike started making NFL jersey in 2012. Either AJ Brown looking surprisingly small at 15 years old or this picture is edited. Look at the picture. Look at it, man. Bruh.

[Joe]

E. Wilder, he's putting that up, bro. Geeked up. It definitely, definitely thousand percent. AI. Yeah, he being funny. I've been wanting to be there since I was a child.

[Debo]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. It gotta be. He trolling. He gotta be trolling. 100 trolling, bro. There's no. There's no way it's anything else other than.

[Joe]

Good.

[Debo]

We did talk about Odell being signed, so. The Giants.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

Odell Beckham signed to the Giants. They say he will return to New York where he began his NFL career. What do you think of this? You like it?

[Joe]

I don't like it. I told you yesterday, I liked it. A nice. A nice little reuniting with his spot where he all. Where it all started. And I think he's going to be able to do his thing. I don't think he's going to be able to be like the number one. But Odell still got quickness. No, no, no. Like, and he's gonna be the number two. Number two. Number three receiver.

[Debo]

I don't know about that. Three.

[Joe]

Threeish. But he's going to be able to get out there, show them dudes what's done. And I think it's just a feel good story for me too. That's my dog. I know.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I love it.

[Debo]

I love it. I like it. Let me stop with the love word. I like it. I like it because he gets a chance to close out his career where he started it. Like you said, feel good. You know, if everything works out that way. They also signed Juju.

[Joe]

Dang. That's going to be a dance. They got the day. That's going to be a dancing squad over there.

[Debo]

They got our old receiver too. What's his name? Oh, the dude from last year. Austin the Speedster. Yeah, they got him from last year. They got. Dude, they got a whole. They got a whole room of receivers over there. Dude.

[Joe]

It's.

[Debo]

It's thick over there. It's deep.

[Joe]

Like, I'm excited to see. Yeah, they getting darts on weapons then.

[Debo]

Yeah. I don't understand. I don't.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Debo]

I mean, yeah, I guess you could. Somebody ain't gonna be there. I don't know who it is. Somebody ain't gonna be there.

[Joe]

He probably going. Calvin Austin might do some special teams out there too, so that he could. He can make room for himself. And he still do. He could do some wide out. He was fast. A rod hit him up the sideline. I'm not mad at it. Yeah, but. And you never know too. I saw my man. We gotta wait for Malik neighbors to get back out there healthy, right? That's what I do.

[Debo]

What I'm saying. They got a lot of people over there, bro. They got a lot of bodies over there right now. I don't know how many of them. Ross is still 53, right?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Debo]

I'm about to say I don't know how many of them you can actually keep. And so if you keep more of them, you got to lose something somewhere else. You can't beat afford to lose nothing.

[Joe]

We gonna see Odell. He gonna be on the squad, though. That's the facts.

[Debo]

Okay. I mean, I hope so. I mean, like I said, he get to finish where he started off. Good feel, good story. Russell Wilson accepts an offer to join CBS Sports. Put in the pause on his playing career. Putting a pause? I don't know about putting a pause on that.

[Joe]

That's one of them. What's the pauses, though? It's one of those. It could be like a what's my man, Philip Rivers pause?

[Debo]

It could be, but dang, I don't think I would. I wouldn't consider it. No pause. I think it was. He only started with three games last year. And then Jackson. It's dart, right? Dart. Yeah, Jackson, Dart. He started and then he. He lost the second place to the sec. The. The second string to James Winston. Right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

So, I mean, congratulations on, you know, getting you.

[Joe]

What year is this for Russell, man? See, it might be about 15. Yeah, it might be about that time.

[Debo]

I don't know. What year is it, Chad? What year is it for Russ?

[Joe]

I say about 15. 15. Something about. Right. Go ahead, get on that. Good old CBS Sports, you know what I'm saying? Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Debo]

I don't know, bro. 14. It's 14 years.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Yeah. How do you think that'll work out with what was with him on tv?

[Joe]

I don't know. We will have to see it. I. I don't.

[Debo]

Why don't you know, bro? I don't. I don't know. I just don't know. I think. I don't know. I just don't. I don't. I don't think he gives off that. Like, he's so. He's like, he's like very, very like,

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[Debo]

Like, I don't think it's going to like, attract people to like. It's. I don't know if it's gonna translate, bro.

[Joe]

Like, we will. Yes, we will. We will see. We will see. I. I don't. He's a really. He's a. Russell was a really nice guy. He's a dude.

[Debo]

Yes. Don't question about it. He's well, he's well spoken. He's. He's like salt of the earth dude. He's a good dude, man.

[Joe]

It's just

[Debo]

in his.

[Joe]

It's.

[Debo]

It's a transition translation of, Of. Of. Of expressing, you know what he's saying. It's just like, I don't want to say. It's like. It's like monotone. It's just like. I don't know if it. It adds to people, you don't know to like, listen. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's like. It's Russell. Like, I want to tune in to hear him. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying this. I'm not. I'm not. It's not anything against him. It's just like, you know, you have some people who have like, you know, like different tones or, or how. Or how they speak or how they. How they talk. Like, it's just, you know, something. And it could be a situation where he may expressly on TV than he doing.

[Joe]

Because we never. I never sat down and really heard him talk. Talk. I mean, been able to like, talk ball or how he. How he looks at ball, how he evaluates it. So you know what I'm saying? Never really like Troy Aikman. I didn't know. I never really knew how these people were gonna talk. I thought Tom Brady's voice sounded different than it was when he started broadcasting. So I'm like, yo, is that Tom Brady' voice? So you, you know.

[Debo]

Well, some people do voice training. You do dial, you know what I'm saying? You never know, try and get different twings or twangs out of your voice. I don't care nothing about that. My stuff is what it is. Except for when I was acting. I had to change it up when I was acting, of course. But other than that, like, I'm like, yo, it's too like, dude acting. Like, you got to really get into that.

[Joe]

Like, yeah, bro, you something.

[Debo]

Gotta build a whole different thing, man. You gotta box yourself into.

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. I think he. He could take on some funniness where, like, you know, some of the stuff that he.

[Debo]

But he would have to act, that would not be him. This ain't scripted. This. This unscripted.

[Joe]

You gotta be okay. Yeah. Cause if he started doing the. The big.

[Debo]

And if they like you, it's easy.

[Joe]

Because now you don't know what's not an act, though. I think. I think his stuff isn't an act. You know what I'm saying?

[Debo]

Oh, I know he's not, but, like, 100 pure. But I'm saying that pureness.

[Joe]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Debo]

I don't know how that would translate

[Joe]

to people, because what is the.

[Debo]

Well, he's saying, like. Like television. I don't know how that.

[Joe]

When he was saying, like, what's he like? See, all's nation, let's ride. Is that really him? Is that really him? Because I'm like, if that's his real.

[Debo]

I don't know if that saying is his, but that is his voice saying it.

[Joe]

See? All snakes.

[Debo]

You see?

[Joe]

Like, I don't.

[Debo]

I don't.

[Joe]

I don't know how it's going, but is it translating?

[Debo]

They said it's gonna be cbs.

[Joe]

Cbs. Hey, I don't know. We'll see. We will see. I'm rooting for a guy.

[Debo]

Yeah, for sure. You know, I like seeing guys that come out there and. And are able to, you know, advance their career beyond the actual football field and continue to, you know, being a sport.

[Joe]

That is that man, Russ. I tell you, I met him a couple of times. That he is Jim to the earth with me. He was super nice, so I will root for him.

[Debo]

But that man, dude, he's so. He's so nice, bro, that you actually question yourself. Is he.

[Joe]

Is he joking? Is he. Is he plotting on me?

[Debo]

This is him. This is him. Consistently 100 genuine dude all the time.

[Joe]

See all nation.

[Debo]

I'm done messing with you. You ain't. You ain't. You. You ain't worth you, dude.

[Joe]

Telling you, you. I had, man, after. After all of those different emotions I was going through yesterday.

[Debo]

Yeah, Joe, how you. How you feeling now? Tell me, tell me, tell Me, what first happened when you first saw. Like, how did.

[Joe]

What.

[Debo]

What, what. What feelings came upon you?

[Joe]

Our first thing that I thought was never, ever, ever believe anything Andrew Berry says. That's the first thing that came to me.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, he has to do what he got.

[Joe]

I understand he has to do what he has to do. But let me tell you something. If there's smoke, there's fire. Okay? That's the fire. First thing that made me. Because. No, no, no, no, no. A thousand percent. Debo, you said that. So now this is the other thing. I'm thinking, like anything is always up in the air. Any possibility is possible. Anything's possible. Anybody can get traded. Anybody can be moved from. You know what I'm saying? So when I heard the first thing, I was like this, wow. I'm not going to listen to Andrew Burry anymore because he can't tell me the truth. I know. I believe. Okay, well, it is what it is.

[Debo]

Listen, if you go and build a personal relationship with him.

[Joe]

No trust you.

[Debo]

He could tell you the truth behind the scenes because Miles knew.

[Joe]

He did.

[Debo]

He had to. That's why that no clause, he.

[Joe]

That was when. All right. Yeah. Miles. Yes. He had to agree with it because he had to make sure he was like, okay.

[Debo]

It was all right. Let's get back to your feelings, though. Go ahead.

[Joe]

Feelings. Miles is gone. I can't listen to Andrew. I can't trust what Andrew Berry says just because he is the.

[Debo]

How did that feel for you, Joe? Did it feel like somebody just nipped you at the bottom of the nuts?

[Joe]

It felt like me and my Browns going on to go win the playoff games this year and really try to see how close we were to just being next year's draft away from maybe getting to the gym now it's more kind of like, I understand it's going to be a 2029 plan to when DeShawn's going to be off and then now Miles is going to be gone. We're going to have that 2027 pick if it's your door or not. We'll know after next season to. If we need to get that next quarterback to be the franchise quarterback and with all the other picks that we got hit, make them be Nick Herbic that they. That. That the Steelers got in the fifth round to where we picking these good players and they're. They're balling for us. And everybody from Jutkins now is one of the best running backs in the league. Fannin Jr. Is Pro bowl player. You know what I'm saying Carson Schlesinger, the defensive player, rookie of the year.

[Debo]

You had to talk yourself into talking.

[Joe]

I had to talk myself into the realization now of understanding. Joe, relax, okay? We're not going to go to the promised land as fast as you thought because you all look excited. But like, I'm still gonna root, I'm still gonna be happy. Just lower your expectations a little bit and root for us to still win. So when we start pulling stuff off and be like this dang, okay, it's getting there quicker than I thought. Now I could be excited than when I'm being like, dang, okay, if we start losing a little early, that 2017 first round pick started looking a little, you know what I'm saying? Then like, okay, I'm starting to really plot to like, okay, Joe, you were already excited. But now it's the realization they already, we already set this up for more of the future than to be this exact season. Because I will never root for my Browns to lose. I don't want to go out to the games and want them to lose. But now with the realization of dang, we're going to go fight and we may come up a little bit short, but this is all in plans for the later better. Good. Now I could be a little bit more chill. So now that's kind of where my vibes are. Where I'm like, all right, bet my Browns, okay? Right now might not be the time. Myles Garrett, I love you to death. You did everything you needed to do for the Browns. You came and fought. You told them that you was ready to go to be traded and came back. Cause they gave you that bag and gave them 23 sacks and set the NFL record. I am here for you, my brother. And we still won five games. So go out there to la, go win you a ship. Because them boys are ready. They got a squad, they got the team. And if you go win them, I'm going to be so happy for you. You deserve it. It's not your bad that we didn't win it over here in Cleveland. Like you're not. It's not your fault. We didn't go to the playoffs and be like, we had miles of student. I'm like, cause it's not as bad. He's one of the 22 starters that we have on our team and he went to the Pro bowl seven times out of his nine years, had seven all pros. He was two time defensive mvp. Miles was not the problem. It's some of these linemen and Some of these receivers and these quarterbacks that we had that couldn't get.

[Debo]

Oh, they done got you so mad. You pointing fingers now. Good Lord.

[Joe]

On defense, defense, getting the job done. We got number one ranked defense. We have. Well, Baker Mayfield did good. He, he, he didn't do his. Let me put on Baker. Baker did his thing back.

[Debo]

Now I'm just. You got to, you still got your feelings, Joe, you asked me how I feel, man. We gotta start, we gotta start, we gotta start to grow from here. We gotta go and we gotta let go. We gotta let the hurt go.

[Joe]

Brought it.

[Debo]

You asked if you want to grow and you want, you want to expand and be. I understand, but you, I said, how did you feel? And then you, you, you, you proceeded to tell me how you felt and you went past it and then you double right back to it again about something from like, like Baker Mayfield.

[Joe]

I believe that Shador Sanders.

[Debo]

It's okay.

[Joe]

Is going to be the quarterback that we need. So we're not going to have to use Joe.

[Debo]

You're everywhere. Listen, Joe, I, I, I, I' ma tell the chat. I'm gonna let that know. I was actually super, super very, very, very concerned about Joe. I, I was on the phone talking to some law enforcement people. I wanted to go do a welfare check, but Joe ended up jumping on like one minute before, you know, we were supposed to air. And I still, right now I'm gonna talk to him after we get off of here because he's still, he's still spinning, he's still cycling. But that's, you know, that's something that I think I can get him to understand and help him work through being. I'm also sort of like, I'm like a human therapy dog. Like, people tend to gravitate to me and, and, and, and tell me things and I, and I, and I, and, and I'm able to help them through their troubles, Joe. And Joe, you, you are my brother, man. I love you. I care about you. You know what I'm saying? And you know and I understand. Like, first it's the Cavs, and now it's the Browns. And that can make a man want to go and do unthinkable things. No. How's our guardians doing, Joe?

[Joe]

Solid. We fighting. Don't. The Guardians are straight. Don't worry about the Guardian.

[Debo]

Hey, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to the Super Chat.

[Joe]

Joe.

[Debo]

I'm going. Super Chat Joe. You feeling, you feel bad, Joe, right

[Joe]

now, Joe, you done jumped me the whole episode.

[Debo]

Listen, Joe, I ain't.

[Joe]

No, you. You was on. You was actually on my side. You was actually on my side.

[Debo]

I was on your light. I was trying to help you see the light.

[Joe]

You saying we're not gonna be good for a while, but I don't believe

[Debo]

that you ain't gonna least at least two.

[Joe]

Yep. Do you not. Do you think Shador is going to be our quarterback or do you think we're going to need to draft the quarterback in 2027?

[Debo]

I won't know that.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay.

[Debo]

Until.

[Joe]

Until after. Until you see him play this season.

[Debo]

Until I see him get in the full year.

[Joe]

All right.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm not going to. I'm not going to put.

[Debo]

And I don't think he's. And I don't think that year, a full year is going to be this year just from how things are running now because like he's not getting all that prep. Like it's a big difference when you get all that prep. You get all that. All the stuff with the ones they splitting time with the ones they doing all that. So now he's not getting that and he's. He's sharing it. So I, I would. I would hate to. If Watson starts and he does well enough to keep it, he won't be there next year. It don't matter. And you guys, I don't think are going to have a good record anyway. So that puts you back at the first round with draft capital of A one and an opportunity to actually go get a quarterback. As much as I hate to say it like it puts Shador in a bad situation because now they're going to go get a one one and he's going to be sitting there without even an opportunity or chance to be the starter because you're not gonna go 1:1 and then say, I'm gonna let my five start.

[Joe]

Yeah, that'll be.

[Debo]

Anyway, man. Let's go to this rennesota $71742 said joe, switch to black and gold full time from now on. You need to switch to black and gold full time. Joe, look at you over there. That's that. That bro. Like you, you like. You are already like. I ain't never seen you like just bad Joe Leader.

[Joe]

Just because we got to get to the season. Our off seasons be crazy. And the season.

[Debo]

You think the season gonna be any better, right?

[Joe]

At least I get. At least I get the.

[Debo]

At least, man.

[Joe]

Listen, we looking forward to now. We keep looking forward to the next year draft draft. We looking all the way to the next year draft. How many picks we got? I'm all looking to see. Yo, we got two. We got two.

[Debo]

365 days.

[Joe]

I don't care who in the squad. Who do we have right now? Who's on the team?

[Debo]

Joe, we got another one, man. It's Lisa Lynch. 191 20. She said, thank you, James, for the autograph. Number three photo. We go Steelers. She must have bought Debo. Yes, yes, yes, sir. Yeah, so if you go to debo92.com and you buy, I think it's, it's a hundred dollars worth of Debo gear or something. You get a free autograph picture. That's a deal for sure. That's a hell of idea because I know what an autograph picture costs. Because it costs more than that.

[Joe]

You ain't lying, debo.

[Debo]

Mikey, Mike. $105 said, what up, Debo and Joe. So this means Aaron Donald's going to return. Hell, and when it comes down to if Aaron was to return, he ain't coming back for cheap.

[Joe]

They make some money for AD though. They make some money for AD at least a little.

[Debo]

What?

[Joe]

What? What you think?

[Debo]

AD said he ain't coming back.

[Joe]

He ain't coming back to show.

[Debo]

Hell no. For sure. 100%. Mike. And Mike back again. Another $5. He said, Joe loves the brown.

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[Joe]

I think kid is walking up the slide.

[Cindy Crawford]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

conditions, but don't love them enough to take up.

[Joe]

Amen.

[Debo]

Joe love the Browns, but he don't love him nothing.

[Joe]

Tell y' all something.

[Debo]

Tell him. Tell him what, Joe? Tell him something.

[Joe]

You know what you're worth? You know what you worth. And at the same time, when I was on that Browns team and they tried to take that $4 million from me and they paid Brock Oswald, they tried to take four, they tried to play Brock Oswalder. He was on the team and didn't do no snaps. And they gave that man $16 million. I said, oh Lord. Why? Why? Why from here? Why? Why from here? I'm chilling.

[Debo]

Why for? I'm gonna take a pay cut. Y' all gave him 16. 16.

[Joe]

I'm gonna do nothing. Why don't you worry about like my funds are y' all already. I signed the contract. Now y' all coming back in Trying to. I didn't come in and renegotiate. Yup. What's going on here. That's why. Bad business.

[Debo]

Bad business. Joe.

[Joe]

I love him, though. But goddamn. I love the city. The city didn't take the cheese. It was. It was. The org was like, jody, you gotta. What's up here? I'. No, he do it. Okay.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Debo]

We got Colorado roughing $10 said, bruh. We all know Miles. Girl just wanted to get out. That's facts. What she got. What she got over there with the medals, Joe?

[Joe]

Golds.

[Debo]

Chloe Kim got two. Those and a silver.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Debo]

Okay. She can't be sitting in Cleveland.

[Joe]

Yes, she can.

[Debo]

Yes, she can. She from.

[Joe]

She can come to Cleveland.

[Debo]

This was all set up. Her family in Cali. This is all set up. They ain't that. Probably engaged wifey or something coming up. All that good stuff. What we talking about?

[Joe]

It wasn't it.

[Debo]

This is a move for the family. Yeah, for the. For this. This is a double move. Family and trophy. She can't be sitting in Cleveland. What? What? How many. How many games y' all got on national tv?

[Cindy Crawford]

What?

[Debo]

What national tv? They got seven. LA got seven. They knew what was going on. She gonna be over there in the box like Taylor Swift with her gold medals on her neck, sitting up there. And the good sunshine, Debo. Good sunshine. You know ain't no sign in Cleveland, bro.

[Joe]

In the summertime, in the beginning of the season. First game of the season. It's beautiful out there. First month of the season.

[Debo]

That's it. After that. That all down. One game.

[Joe]

Beautiful.

[Debo]

One game.

[Ryan Seacrest]

One game.

[Debo]

Y' all get one game at home in September. That's it. You got one game.

[Joe]

That game gonna be beautiful.

[Debo]

Praying

[Joe]

beautiful out there. Come on. You can't even lie. That brown. That brown's grass.

[Cindy Crawford]

Fine.

[Joe]

You can't even lie.

[Debo]

I ain't gonna lie. It was grass.

[Joe]

Grass was great. You can't even say it was. You know, it was fine, right?

[Debo]

Better than now. You move into a different stadium, what's gonna happen? Because you ain't close to that water no more. You know, that mix of that air, they give you a different mix of mystery.

[Joe]

Mr. Haslam's, Mr. Jimmy and D. Haslams. One thing they don't play about is that bread. And they gonna make sure that the Browns gonna have the nicest facilities. I can almost guarantee you that. We gonna have grass on that end, though. Oh, that's. Oh. Oh, that's for sure.

[Debo]

That gonna be turf. They ain't Trying to take care of all that. It ain't rolling out. I don't know now.

[Joe]

Let me. I gotta check. I gotta check. I gotta check.

[Debo]

I'm just. All right, listen, Joe. The one good thing y' all had was grass. Y' all about to lose. That lost Miles. Y' all lost championship. Y' all lost Cleveland. Cavs lost. Y' all lost Baker. I mean, y' all lost.

[Joe]

We in the mix, though. That's all.

[Debo]

I. We. We.

[Joe]

We in the mix. The Cavs.

[Debo]

What? You in the mix?

[Joe]

I'm talking about the Cavs right now. The, the. The Browns, everybody in the offseason, planning on we still. But guess what? You still ain't seen if we have our quarterback on the roster. You still don't everybo.

[Debo]

Covenant Life. Covenant like $20. You gotta let it, Joe. You gotta let it marinate, assimilate. And. And it's okay. It's okay. Covenant Life said just because the Rams got mild Miles Garrett doesn't mean they're automatically super bowl bound company. You be saying things that just one player doesn't guarantee it. It don't guarantee a ring, but it guarantees them a ring if he was on that team last year. I understand chemistry. Coaching depth still matters. Yes, yes, true. Having it like having a ham. Having a hamstring away from cancer. They are a hamstring away from Cancun.

[Joe]

That's everybody.

[Debo]

In the perfect world. In a perfect world, no one gets hurt. Everybody stays healthy. This puts them in super bowl before

[Joe]

they got Miles when they addressed their secondary, in my opinion, just offensive wise, when you have Devontae, you have Puka, you have Sam, Matthew Stafford at quarterback. That offense is being explosive with their coach, Sean Mayveigh, that's able to put them in positions. They're averaging 30 points a game. Their defense, they lost to Seattle because they couldn't stop Sam Darnold. Their score was. They still threw for 300 some yards. The score was like 38 to 35. So I'm looking at that team. If you can put up that many points and then you just go get you a cornerback. One of the best cornerbacks in the league, Craig McDuffie, go pay him 31 mil. Go get the other cornerback and then you go get Miles. I'm looking at it like, okay, I see what everybody else did. I see the moves that are being made. That team looks fire. You know what I'm saying? If all stays the same, everybody stays healthy, then they're good. Obviously there's going to be injuries, but the coaching chemistry you ain't got to tell a man that plays man to man like McDuffie, he don't need chemistry with nobody but to be able to know how to strap. And he's been in the league for a long time, so zones are smooth. I'm talking about man to man. He can go cover your number one receiver. That's when you need a corner to do all that scheming stuff. He can learn a little stuff. But that man to man technique that he does, he's bringing that with him to, to. To the Rams. Miles is coming in that joint. The scheme put Miles Garrett on the field and he's. Your defense is better no matter what rush the pass from Miles, Okay? Bet our team's way better than it was before. So, like there's certain players when they're a listers, like just, you know, plugging players that's going to help your team regardless because they're just that good of a player. Like he's a corner. He straps up, he plays man to man. Miles Garrett gets facts.

[Debo]

I understand. For sure. For sure. Covenant Life. Back again. $20. I was concerned about you because your co host prophesied all this. Yes, I did.

[Joe]

You did.

[Debo]

You said at this point, Debo, please give Joe a Snickers bar. He's really down. I have you both framed now. Beside. What frame now, right? Oh, Donnie.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes.

[Debo]

Okay. You know what I was talking about? No question. Thank you.

[Joe]

Covenant.

[Debo]

Hey, hey, hey. I gotta. I gotta. I got. Oh, here. Oh, we got another one. Hold on. Somebody said. I can't tell. I'm telling, I'm telling. What's this dude's name? Nicholas de la Renta's 30. 30 68. He said, he said, love the show, but God damn. After watching for a while, I realized my man Debo can't read. Why isn't Joey. Thank the Lord. Debo was, Was. Was drafted. You don't know. He's an idiot.

[Joe]

You type wrong.

[Debo]

You don't even know what the hell you talking about. Nicholas.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Debo]

Fool ass. I wanted to call you.

[Joe]

Let him live.

[Debo]

Listen here. Drafted. I wasn't drafted. If you even watched anything about me. Same thing I told the reporter. Wasn't drafted. You don't know me. Just like he don't know me. You don't know me, do you? Thanks for the money.

[Joe]

Appreciate it.

[Debo]

Do your research. I wasn't drafted. The coldest. Look here, baby coming to life. Back again. She said. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. What are we talking about? Well, if it. Well, if it does, then damn it, we going.

[Joe]

He's talking about.

[Debo]

Let's go.

[Joe]

We talked about Miles goes to the Rams and it means they're automatically going to the Super Bowl. And she said, well, if it does. She said, no, it doesn't. So I. Look, we in. We in different divisions. They over there. I'm saying we can keep them.

[Debo]

Up over here, man. You gotta. You gotta explain to us what you're talking about. Because now I'm sitting over here looking goofy, but I really don't care anyway, you know what I'm saying? I really don't care anyway, you know what I'm saying? Cause I look how I look, and they gonna come and see it anyway. You feel me? Yo, they coming to see Debo.

[Joe]

They got to.

[Debo]

That's why they got to. They here for the show. Joe.

[Joe]

Trying to say they was here. If I was gonna be crazy sad.

[Debo]

Hey. Hey, Joe.

[Joe]

What's up?

[Debo]

There's a lot of people.

[Joe]

There was a lot of people concerned. I'm. I'm glad that I can. I had.

[Debo]

I had some time before you got on the chat.

[Joe]

It was worried.

[Debo]

Oh, there was. Joe. I was. Listen, I told you, man, I was out. I was about. I was about to have to do a wellness check on you.

[Joe]

I was. I was cool. I'm cool. I'm cool.

[Debo]

You was late.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

You know, and then. And then you said, I don't know if I'm be able to make it. I got. You know, I'm down bad. No, you want to blame it on the kids. All the kids sick. No, you sick.

[Joe]

Ah, you ain't lie.

[Debo]

You ain't lied.

[Joe]

You ain't lied. My stomach was a little turning, but. But it is what it is. It is what it is. It is what it is. I understand. I understand the bigger picture. I understand the big picture, because you understand the bigger picture.

[Debo]

There you go.

[Joe]

You understand the bigger picture.

[Debo]

You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. I hated. I had. I. I dislike.

[Joe]

I want us to be good right now.

[Debo]

Had to do that, and I had

[Joe]

to give him that. Everybody. We always hear that, though. Here we go. Here we go.

[Debo]

Look here, baby. Game one.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

I got.

[Joe]

Who you got. You got Spurs.

[Debo]

I got the Spurs.

[Joe]

I got the Spurs.

[Debo]

Okay, you said you two. I told you that. It's five games. It's over with you and who.

[Joe]

And you said it was the four.

[Debo]

It's gonna be fours and five.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Debo]

Spurs and five. They going for game one, two, three. They go Lose four, they go hit back at home.

[Joe]

I say spurs, and I say spurs in seven. So they gonna get this game and then I. I will see about game two. We'll see about game two.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

All right.

[Debo]

All right, look here. We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you, like, subscribe and download where you get your show. Hey, hey, Joe. Let the people know that you're doing okay.

[Joe]

I'm doing fine, guys. Browns fans here. If my Browns fans are here. Listen, we gonna be good. We figuring it out for the future. I know you heard that a thousand times. I've had to jump on the ship, but, Miles Garrett, appreciate everything you've done for the city of Cleveland. Thank you, Miles.

[Debo]

Oh, we got another super chat. Foxy Mama 4321, $2. She said Deebo, I need a good workout plan for a lady. I got. I got it coming. I got. I got the workout plan coming for the ladies. It's gonna be on the app. It's gonna be a little minute, but we go get it to you if you want to have a big backside.

[Joe]

Oh, you working straight clues. Straight glue activation. Wow.

[Debo]

They caught. They go. They gonna call me the glute master.

[Joe]

All right, Depot.

[Debo]

Hey, man. Thank you guys for joining us. We will be back here on Friday. And we out.

[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Cindy Crawford]

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[Joe]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Cindy Crawford]

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[Joe]

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[Debo]

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Cindy Crawford]

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[Joe]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Debo]

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[Rob Gronkowski]

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[Joe]

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