Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Tom Brady ENDS Bill Belichick Debate + Are WRs Overpaid?

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Deebo & Joe, Part 2

Episode Title: Tom Brady ENDS Bill Belichick Debate + Are WRs Overpaid?
Release Date: July 10, 2026
Host(s): Deebo & Joe (Shannon Sharpe Presents)
Special Guests: Julian Edelman (brief cameo), focus on Deebo & Joe
Summary Compiled by: Podcast Summarizer (AI)

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Overview

In the second part of their conversation, Deebo and Joe dive deep into NFL legend Tom Brady's perspective on the infamous "Brady vs. Belichick" debate, with additional candid discussion about team dynamics, player respect, and the impact of coaching. They also analyze stadium turf controversies and field surfaces, and wrap up with interactive Q&A banter about the current state of the Steelers, player rivalries, and some playful trash talk about quarterback skills.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Tom Brady vs. Bill Belichick: Who Was More Important?

Segment Start: [03:21]

Brady’s Perspective (as remembered by Deebo and Joe)

• Brady refuses the divisive comparisons, calling the debate a "dumb analogy" and emphasizing the irreplaceable value both he and Belichick brought to the Patriots' dynasty.
• "It's like, what's more important, the left tackle or the center? I don't know… There's nobody more important to winning Monday through Saturday than the head coach. Especially in football. And there's nobody more important on Sunday than the quarterback." — Deebo paraphrasing Brady ([04:10])
• Brady credits Belichick as "the greatest coach ever" and acknowledges the mutual respect and drive they provided for each other.

The Co-Dependency of Greatness

• Joe expands: Brady and Belichick "couldn’t have done it without each other," underscoring the importance of team, coaching, and situational fit.
• "If Tom Brady wasn’t drafted to the right situation…him and Tom Brady may have been bumping heads because he’s holding that man accountable." — Joe ([06:16])
• Both agree the Patriots dynasty was a “perfect match,” where egos were checked for collective greatness.

Quotes & Notable Takes

• "Bill Belichick is the greatest coach to ever coach the game…Should have been first ballot [Hall of Fame].” — Deebo ([05:09])
• "They’re not ego driven. Nobody wants to have more credit than the other person. When you start getting ego driven...things start getting destroyed and tore apart, like teams, players, whole organizations.” — Deebo ([09:21])

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2. Underrated Team Roles & Game Intelligence

Segment Start: [10:16]

• The duo riffs on the value of every player and position, with special attention to the center's overlooked but critical contributions.
• Deebo shares playing anecdotes: “If the center wasn't snapping me that ball every time...if you don't even get started (the play), we in trouble then.” ([10:54])
• Both praise Brady’s quick release, with Deebo recalling, "I just whipped this dude in like 0.5 seconds and he still got the rock off." ([11:17])

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3. Anecdotes About Playing Against the Patriots

Segment Start: [11:37]

• Deebo and Joe reminisce about past matchups, signal stealing, and how New England’s game prep edge made them legendary.
• Deebo recounts how his team’s signals were deciphered: “We didn't have a throw-off call. …They catching all that.” ([13:44])
• They dig into how technology (headsets, green dots) changed the defensive communication game.

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4. Field Surface Debate: Grass vs. Turf

Segment Start: [21:40]

• Deebo discusses Raiders owner Mark Davis’s vocal support for grass fields, applauding commitment to player safety ("putting his money where his mouth is").
• Joe agrees: "Football should be played on real grass. 1000%. …It just feels so much better. …For your joints, obviously." ([23:26])
• Discussion on why many stadiums choose turf (event scheduling, cost) despite player preference for grass and its safety benefits.
• Buffalo Bills and Cleveland Browns stadium plans analyzed—a contrast between “player-friendly” grass and turf-for-profit.
• “That stadium is also used for the bag. We will have concerts in there…it will be a lot of events going on.” — Joe ([28:44])

Memorable Exchange

• "Why don't y'all look for the trophy?" — Deebo (ribbing about priorities, [31:54])
• "We looking for the trophy." — Joe ([31:55])

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5. Lighthearted Banter: Quarterback Skills & Friendly Trash Talk

Segment Start: [34:07]

• Spirited debate about who’d make a better quarterback—Deebo or Joe.
• “I used to be victim weight like you. …I started eating weights, Joe.” — Deebo ([35:26])
• “You played quarterback during any of this time?” — Joe
  “I played quarterback. …It was on a video game, though.” — Deebo ([42:22])

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6. Interactive Q&A and NFL Hot Takes

Segment Start: [45:01]

Steelers-Bengals Rivalry

• Joe explains the national narrative favoring the Bengals over the Steelers revolves around having a young franchise QB and explosive weapons.
• “With y’all got Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, y’all have 40 on offense every time. …Just defense do something." ([47:31])
• Joe pushes back on the idea Cincinnati is a lock, emphasizing results must happen on the field: "It gotta happen. Season gotta happen." ([50:50])

Steelers’ Path to Contention

• Joe: Execution in both offense and defense is key: "If we’re not hurting ourselves, that’s all we need…I just want to see us play the games the right way." ([51:18])

Listener Q&A: Community Stories & Jersey Promises

• Stories about community service interactions, kids’ candid honesty, and follow-up on jersey trades with fans ([53:05]–[55:08]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “There’s nobody more important on Sunday than the quarterback. …The quarterback just has an outsized kind of ability…because he touches the ball so much.” — Deebo, channeling Brady ([04:10])
• "The fact that [Belichick] didn’t go first ballot hall of fame, man, hall of fame has lost all the absolute credibility." — Deebo ([05:09])
• "If you want to have your best ability on it, playing on grass is just the way to go for your joints." — Joe ([23:26])
• “That stadium is also used for the bag…that’s not player efficient turf.” — Joe ([28:44])
• “I used to be victim weight like you. …Started eating weights.” — Deebo ([35:26])
• “It was on a video game, though.” — Deebo, on when he played quarterback ([42:22])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:21] — Brady ends the Belichick debate
• [04:10] — Deebo on coaching vs. quarterback roles
• [06:16] — Joe on why situation and coaching matter for QBs
• [13:44] — Signal stealing anecdotes
• [21:40] — Mark Davis’s stance on grass, field surface debate
• [23:26] — Joe on why real grass matters
• [28:44] — Joe and Deebo on stadium design and priorities
• [34:07] — QB banter and challenges
• [42:22] — Deebo admits to only playing QB on video games
• [47:31] — Joe breaks down why Bengals get more hype nationally
• [51:18] — Steelers’ training camp priorities explained by Joe

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Tone & Style

• Casual, personal, honest—full of friendly roasts and storytelling.
• Unfiltered NFL player insight mixed with real fan talk.
• Blunt, playful, and community-oriented.

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For Listeners

If you’re a football fan interested in how legends like Brady and Belichick are really viewed by their peers, plus genuine inside chatter on team dynamics, this episode delivers. The field turf debate offers real insight into player safety concerns often glossed over in big media. As always, expect plenty of laughs and direct, no-bull analysis—plus a little Steelers-Bengals rivalry to spice it up.

Transcript

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[Debo]

Tom Brady is done debating who's more important between himself and Bill Belichick in the Patriots dynasty.

[Joe]

Listen to this.

[Debo]

I'd be remiss if we get out of this interview without bringing up the old ball coach. We haven't talked about Bill one time yet. Yeah, I see so many thing. And this started happening while you guys were still in the league.

[Julian Edelman]

Is it Bill?

[Debo]

Is it Tom, like, who is responsible for the greatest era of success in the history of the NFL? Yeah. How do you react to those kind of, I guess, clickbaity arguments as well as, like, what do you think of Bill and what he meant for your success? First of all, I think he's the greatest coach that you know, ever. Greatest head coach in terms of preparing a team to win. There was nobody better. I was my privilege to play for him as his quarterback. There's no coach I'd rather choose.

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[Debo]

It's just a dumb analogy. It's like, what's more important, the left tackle or the center? Like, I don't know. Well, left tackle, we can be honest about that one. I disagree. I disagree. There's nobody more important to winning Monday through Saturday than the head coach. Especially in football. Especially in football. And there's nobody more important on Sunday than the quarterback. Now everybody's important. The person who washes the clothes is important. The quarterback just has an outsized kind of ability to help the team win because he touches the ball so much.

[Julian Edelman]

But I need everybody to do their job.

[Debo]

But if you have bad quarterback play, it doesn't matter what else you do, you're not going to win. Yeah. And if you have bad coaching, it doesn't matter how well the players are doing, you're going to lose. So I just think that question is like, they're all important. There's no way I could have been the player I was without him. And I think we pushed each other to, you know, get the best out of each other. And I think he's just. He's incredible. Anyone who played underneath him would say the same thing. Hall of Famer should have been first ballot, man. Crazy.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Yeah. Besides all that, man, one of the most respected ever to do it, man. That's facts, Joe, and that's. That right there, bro, is why everybody loves and respects Tom Brady. You can disagree with him, you can say he didn't say some crazy stuff, but you still go respect him in. Dude, he gives as much as respect, probably more than he gets. He gives people like, it's so much respect. It don't matter if you a practice squad dude, if you a dude that been on the team for 10, 15 years, man, and him saying what he said is, bro, it's facts. Bill Belichick is the greatest coach to ever coach the game. You're looking at it, you see it. You see his. You see his. His championships, you see his coaching tree. You see everything that dictates that he should have went first ballot hall of Fame. The fact that he didn't go first ballot hall of Fame, man, hall of Fame has lost all in absolute credibility we talked about.

[Joe]

And this is what I say, Deo, I agree with him 1000% because we see these quarterbacks. If Tom Brady wasn't drafted to the right situation, where you have a coach that's able to hold everybody accountable, his stars, all of his players, him and Tom Brady may have been bumping heads because he's holding that man accountable. And that's what you need from a great coach, to be able to push you, to be able to get the best out of you, to not let things slip, to not let that stuff just get so. Just any, like, blase, flowy. No, it's none of that flowiness. With Bill Belichick, you're going to be held to a standard every day. And that's what makes the coach so great, because great players. If you want to be great and you know how much it takes you, you will take the coaching because you know it's to make you better. It's nothing to harm you. It's only to help you. So if you want to be great, come take this coaching. Come, let's. Let's watch this film together. I'm willing to put in the hours because when you're a great coach, you can't deny he's doing everything he can. Sometimes maybe a little Bit too much to get the edge, but the edge is going to get. You're going to know your coach is going to put you in the best position to win. So that's one with Tom. And he could have went to a different team, got drafted to a different situation. And like Aaron Rodgers, that's when you put, if you put this quarterback in this situation, how many wins does he get? What is it, the coach or quarterback? It all works together. Because you can't say if Aaron Rodgers was drafted to the pictures because he wasn't. And Bill Belichick wasn't coaching Aaron Rodgers. And that situation didn't happen. It happened to be Tom Brady that got drafted. There happened to be Bill Belichick coaching him with all of these players that he coached up all of these years to have this greatness and be able to do what they were doing, because that's a great coach that's leading amazing talent on the defensive side, offensive side, special teams, bringing you in with execution. It doesn't matter with just sometimes being able to get rid of good players that you need knowing like, it might be a year, he was doing it a year too early before a year too late. Bill Belichick just was able to cut the, the, the emotional side out of it and be like, what does the tape look like? What is going to be the best process for this team? And that's why when him and Tom Brady could start, start getting a little. He's like, I need to be playing for the future past Tom Brady. Like, that's a situation where you're a coach planning for your team all around. No matter what's going on, how's it looking? We'll be knowing like, okay, boom, boom. Just that'. So I respect Tom Brady talking about him at such a high level. And the same thing with Bill Belichick because they know what it takes. One couldn't do it without the other. It takes a great quarterback. Tom Brady was great. He wanted to be great. He studied, he loved the game. And the coach at the same time is bringing in everybody, other coaches, schemes, coaching other players and having his team and his system ready for each other, both of them. It was a perfect match made in heaven. So we can't take away one from the other. He's like, I needed him or it would have not looked like that. And I needed him or it would not have looked like that. We needed our players, we needed Randy Moss, we needed, you know what I'm saying, Gronkowski, we needed this, this, this team. So I Think they both. They're speaking very highly on each other, and you can't have one without the other.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Debo]

I mean, you actually said everything that that needed to be said there, man. Like, would it look different if it was, you know, somebody else? I don't know. Who knows? But I know, like, with Tom Brady having the skill that he has and all that, could he have went somewhere else and got seven or eight without Bill? I don't think so. I don't think Bill could win anywhere else with any other quarterback and got seven or. Or six or seven, whatever it was with. Without. Without Tom. So, you know, one can't go without the other. Even though y' all want to try and separate it and point to who was the best, they're not. They're. They're not ego driven. Nobody wants to have more credit than the other person. When you start getting ego driven, people who want more credit and want to be seen, things start getting destroyed and tore apart, like teams, players, whole organizations, you know what I'm saying? You know, so that football is one of the biggest.

[Joe]

Football is the biggest team sport. You need everybody. Like, when he's talking about. That's why Tom speaks highly on, you know, is the tackle better more than pointing the center? He's like, if the center wasn't snapping me that ball every time, and maybe making the center might be the ones being able to make the checks. Being at the center of the line. You know, they always say the tackle because you're guarding the quarterback's blindside. So. But Tom Brady's like, okay, that's cool. For sure. I need that.

[Debo]

Right?

[Joe]

The center isn't making those checks, and he's in control of everything.

[Debo]

Ball.

[Joe]

Every play. I would say my center was more important than my tackle. You know what I'm saying? So. And that's uncle. That's Tom Brady. And that's not for other people. Like, no, no, no, no. He's protecting his blind side.

[Debo]

I'm like, my center can't stop that nose from running him over immediately when he snapped that ball. Oh, we in trouble then.

[Joe]

We in trouble with the plays. Don't get started if you don't even get started. The center quarterback exchange. He got to get me. He touching the ball every play, too, right? So, like, just for him to say that, like, it's just.

[Debo]

Here's the crazy thing, man.

[Joe]

Everybody's.

[Debo]

Didn't even hold on to the ball long enough to get his blind side.

[Joe]

He was getting ripped off.

[Debo]

I had a free shot on that dude. A Couple times and I'm like, I just whipped this dude in like 0.5 seconds and he still got the rock off.

[Joe]

That's a lot.

[Debo]

All he. It was literally times where all they had to do was just touch you, bro, and that was enough time that you'd be getting there. As he letting it go, I'm like, dude, what the hell?

[Joe]

He already know. He already know where he's going to go.

[Debo]

Like, yeah, it was. It, dude, it was, it was ridiculous at times. And now you know, of course they, you know, they did. They did a little fan, you know, little fandangling over there, you know, and that, that, that one year, you know what I'm saying? Like undefeated. We popped them and Philly back to back. And then they came. Bro, when I say they caught us on, they only missed one blitz. What in the world? Joe, how many times in your career have you ever scene where a offense get y' all on every blitz? Y' all do but one. Now don't forget, we. We blitz blitz. Now we blitzburg back then. Boy, you talking about 25 Blitz, something like that. How many times, Joe?

[Joe]

I can't tell you. I. I can't.

[Debo]

How many times you don't had to where your blitz did not get there. They threw right into traffic. Looking at everything is telling you that, hey, man, they coming from here, they coming from here, they're coming from here. And they like, nope, no, it ain't. No, it ain't. They throwing it right where you wouldn't want to throw it. If you're looking at the. You know what I'm saying? If you're looking at this false setup we got coming to you. Yeah, but dude, they was doing that. They was doing that. Hurry up. It ain't even hurry up. It was just, you know, call it the line. So we throwing in signals, man, they catching all that. I don't care what nobody said. They're catching all that

[Joe]

they knew.

[Debo]

Bro, we hit him by like 21. The, the, the before, man, they came back and popped us by like 21 in the, in the, in. In the playoff game, championship game.

[Joe]

Were y' all running the same plays?

[Debo]

Bro, we was running the same defense. We was doing different blisses. You know how Coach LeBow goes. Yeah, he go line it up, do like this, whatever, whatever. But what they did is they caught a signals. So that's when you signaled everything in. So it was, you know, you got the dude with the hat and he signal, whatever. We didn't have a throw off call. We didn't know, cats were still in sickness.

[Joe]

Oh, man.

[Debo]

No.

[Joe]

So, yeah, y', all.

[Debo]

You got the throw off call now, too.

[Joe]

Yes. You got the dummy call.

[Debo]

You had no dummy card. We ain't know what they was doing.

[Joe]

Oh, man. Okay. Yes.

[Debo]

You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Joe]

You got to learn. You got to learn the finagle, Debo. You had to throw the finagle route.

[Debo]

Well, we started after that whole thing went down. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, started doing that, but then they brought in the headphones for it for the defense. You got the little green dot.

[Julian Edelman]

Yeah.

[Joe]

How long is the green dot on till what? 15 seconds.

[Debo]

I want to say 15 on both

[Joe]

for the quarterback and for the.

[Debo]

Okay, well, see, that's. They stuff was on the whole time. So they had the line. 40 seconds they calling defense, they lined up. So we trying to get whatever. Hell, they got a whole, what, 25 seconds there to communicate.

[Joe]

Debo, they had the extra time.

[Debo]

No, they got 25. So you do 40 seconds.

[Joe]

Okay, sorry. Yeah, so.

[Debo]

But they already lining up. So as they lining up, we looking and they calling. So they got that whole 25 seconds to figure out what's going on for this even cut out. So that's a whole. I could be like, oh, yeah, it's blah, blah, blah. It's coming from over here. Don't pay attention that they. They showing hard here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's all I'm saying, bro.

[Joe]

Oh, no.

[Debo]

Like, that's like playing techno bowl. And I get your play.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

It's over with.

[Joe]

You looking at my controller, right? I got a B or X.

[Debo]

And that's. That, that's. That's. That's, you know, that's basically what it came down to, bro. Like, they was. They was hitting. I'm like, good lord. Like, I'm like, how did we. We already, like. Yeah, we about to get super bowl like this. And we at home. We was at the crib.

[Joe]

At the crib, bruh.

[Debo]

That was.

[Joe]

That was.

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[Debo]

That was.

[Joe]

That was.

[Debo]

That was upsetting. That was upsetting disappointment.

[Joe]

That. Yeah, that should have been a back.

[Debo]

That should have been a back to back because the next year we won in 2006.

[Joe]

Stole the two piece.

[Debo]

Oh, man. They stole a one piece at least. So the one piece at least.

[Joe]

Hold the one piece.

[Debo]

One piece at least.

[Joe]

He wouldn't have got the next one, though.

[Debo]

Hell, bro, here's the thing, bro. Like, the next year after we won, bro, we didn't even make the playoffs. We was we was like, I don't even know what happened, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I was. That was the first time I realized I was like, yo, you can't party. I partied too long. I ain't gonna lie to you. The first one in 2005, it was.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

That was only three years in. Oh, I was, bro. I was going over there in Detroit, bro. Listen, bro, that whole. That whole off season, bro, I think I. I think I kicked it until right before we came back for training camp, bro.

[Joe]

Come on, Debo, bro.

[Debo]

I was young. I was foolish, you know what I'm saying? I was.

[Joe]

I was.

[Debo]

I was out. I was out. I was out in the streets.

[Joe]

Be like that.

[Debo]

In the young days, around the streets had me. They had me. But I still went to the gym. I still worked out. I still did all my stuff. I just, you know, that was when, you know, you can. You can burn it at both ends, but it's still affecting you. You ain't got that. You. You don't feel it as much. You know what I'm saying? You don't feel it nowhere.

[Joe]

You're gonna get on the back end.

[Debo]

Yes, you go, cat man, go. Catch up with you so fast, bro. Raiders owner Mark Davis is committing, is committed to grass for safety purposes, brother. He says, I just always felt that.

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[Debo]

Ball should be played on grass. You know why he felt like football should be played on the grass, Joe? He said, for. That's for safety purposes, number one. And he said, I want it to look like a game was played. Even if it's an indoor facility. You see grass stains and everything else. I wasn't going to a stadium without it being grass. Once I knew the capabilities was there, obviously it added a lot of costs, but it's worth it. The man is putting his money where his mouth is. They've got an indoor facility over there. It's hotter than witches. Whatever. Yep, bruh. They roll it in and out every stadium. If y' all want to have these indoor stadiums, every stadium required to have a rolling in and out indoor turf. You gotta roll it out. Roll it in. You know what's so crazy? When I did NFL Europe, dude, it was. They had. I can't think of the name of the place I was in Dusseldorf, Germany, but the name of the soccer team, I couldn't remember. But they had rolling in and out turf back then. That was like 2002, bruh. They rolled the whole turf out. Like, if they did an event, they rolled a whole turf out. And when I say the whole turf, man, that. The turf was like. It had to be like, maybe. Maybe eight or ten feet, like, yeah. Tall. Roll it in and out. They bring it out for water. Grass. I mean, water, light, all that. Yeah, yo, that was. That was some good grass out there. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you, brother. Like this. This is the owner that actually really is like, yo, I don't care about the cost. Safety. That's number one. Joe. Joe, that's. What are you. What are you. What are you thinking?

[Joe]

Football should be played on real grass. 1000%. It just is the way. It feels so much better. FIFA came in and they were saying that basically they know grass is the way. If you're not worried about no money and you go switch about you go switch it back to turf. Because they know that's just cost efficient. If you want to have something that's just people can. You can put stuff on, you can roll events on there and have different like things happen and then it's going to stay more the same. But as far as wear and tear, if you want to have your best ability on it, playing on grass is just the way to go for your joints, obviously. And then when it's that good grass, the grip and it gives a little bit more so you're not. It won't get. It won't get. Your ankle won't get caught. It's just. It's naturally going to give a little bit just because that's the way grass works. So just him saying it is the most is obvious. But knowing at the end of the day when the owners, if you were to say, I do have a product out there, I am playing, what is the best thing we talking about? Player safety. Grass is obviously better for players. So it just. If you want to say that, I know it's going to cost a little bit more, but you are investing into your product, you are investing into the players. So obviously, like you said, unless they make it mandatory, then you could see some owners not doing it because financially it's not. It costs more. It's not efficient for them. They have to move this, make another step. But if you're just saying, boom, my. I'm managing my asset, my football team, I got my players out there, I want them to have the best playing surface. We use natural grass. We can do that. And then you'll see the owners that do step up and do that. It's just because they are. They know it costs more. Some people, some owners and some people that own things, they'll do stuff for their employees knowing it's not as cost efficient for them, but it's just the right thing to do. They still making money. It's not going to take from everything. They're not going to go into the red because they're buying a new field. No, it's just going to. This year it might not be as much profit because we ended up putting this into the field. Cool. So next year's numbers will probably be. You know what I'm saying? It's just when you see an owner say it like this, like, boom. I know.

[Debo]

Listen, listen. When you see a owner, he is the only owner that has said it like this. What are you talking about?

[Joe]

But the other Jack, I'm surprised they

[Debo]

ain't Went and went and tried to put a, put a leash on his mouth or something.

[Joe]

No, the other, other, other owners that have switched it to grass, the ones that have grass, they say this. They say it. So it's the ones that aren't saying nothing that do have turf that are still chilling. They. They know.

[Debo]

Put it out there that they said it's for safety purposes. Number one, how many owners have said, I'm changing this for the seat safety purpose, period. Put it out there to the public. Can you name one?

[Joe]

Was it the, Was it the Jacksonville Jaguars that just switched over there? Whoever. Somebody. If the Buffalo Bill.

[Debo]

Jacksonville was always grass, the Buffalo Bills grass.

[Joe]

But if you, if you're grass, I mean, it doesn't have to be.

[Debo]

I don't think so. I think Buffalo, they switched to grass. Stadium is turf.

[Joe]

If they, they switched from grass to turf. No, they were turf and they're switching to grass. Yeah, that's what he said. Because Buffalo Bills.

[Debo]

Oh, they might still be turf. I don't know. Let me. Hey, somebody tell me what Buffalo's new stadium gonna be. Chat.

[Joe]

If a, if a team, if a team is already grass, though, and it's. It is grass, they don't have to state. I mean, they would obviously, if they, if they would have been turf, it's because they could hold other events there. If a team already has grass, that's because they're obviously probably looking out for the best of the team. They.

[Debo]

They know the stadium is so far away that they don't have the opportunity to hold more events. And it could be a situation where, you know what? The grass is a lot cheaper now. Why? Because I'm in good weather. It's easier to take care of. It's going to be one team playing on this. It ain't going to be 20, 30, 30, 40 games played on this thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go and like that's what it is. But I guess they switch from turf. Two grass.

[Joe]

The Bills.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

All right. So now they got an underground heating system, grow lights, moisture control, all that. Like, they just put some money into this thing. Why hold in Buffalo? You can't. You can't. You can't let the, you can't let the field go and just do a. What was it? What was the. This frozen tundra of limb.

[Joe]

It can't freeze over.

[Debo]

Then you can't skate no nice.

[Joe]

Then you Clint. Then your cleats can't go into the ground at all.

[Debo]

Can't go into the ground at all. But you know what that's part of? That's part of. That's part of. You know, that's part of the game though. You got. You gotta go ahead, put them seven. You gotta put them seven studs on. Get it going when it's snowing out there real thick. What Cleveland go do, Joe? They go put in turf or they go put in grass.

[Joe]

Grass?

[Debo]

Are you sure?

[Joe]

Oh, but, but I don't know for sure by the end, but I definitely would expect us to put in grass.

[Debo]

Expected to feature artificial turf, Joe.

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

With a retractable roof. Watch.

[Joe]

Artificial.

[Debo]

No, no, that's what it says, Joe.

[Joe]

Artificial turf.

[Debo]

Well, synthetic surface to accommodate year round event.

[Joe]

See?

[Debo]

Yes, well, you know, concerts, conventions and motorsports.

[Joe]

Joe, that is obviously what I was saying right there is showing you that.

[Debo]

No, Cleveland don't. They don't.

[Joe]

Right there. That part of it. We just let them. That is for the. That. That's. That stadium is also used for the bag. That stadium is also used for the bag. We will have concerts in there. It will be a lot of events going on. Got to be more careful. But it's going to be turf and we're going to be able to hold it. Super Bowl. But that's not what. That's not.

[Debo]

You could have got grass and still held the Super Bowl.

[Joe]

I know, I know, I know. This is not. This is not player efficient turf.

[Debo]

Hey, player efficient turf.

[Joe]

You mean just grass? Just. We needed grass.

[Debo]

We got friendly surface.

[Joe]

Player friendly surface God.

[Debo]

All right, Joe. But that's how y' all do it, man. Y' all gonna spend a billion and then put turf in that thing.

[Joe]

We gonna hold a lot of events. It's the. It's the.

[Debo]

We go hold a lot of people coming up to all these events in the middle of winter when it's snowing and it's it. They get real snow up there, Joe. I'm only 40 minutes away from that and I get some of it. But they get. Bro, you could drive 40 minutes, bro.

[Joe]

Sometimes. Sometimes they don't get hit that crazy three feet. We really got artificial.

[Debo]

We really got artificial buffalo gets more snow than y'. All. And I know real grass coming. That's crazy.

[Joe]

They got it because. And they got it. They got it like they got a little dome too.

[Debo]

They win.

[Joe]

We really doing artificial grass, Debo.

[Debo]

Yes, that's what it says. That's what they're reporting. I don't. I don't what you want me to do.

[Joe]

I'm gonna check on your reporting.

[Debo]

But go talk. Go talk. To the people, man. Go talk to your people. Make a call, make a phone, something. I don't know.

[Joe]

Turf, man. Look, we go. The turf.

[Debo]

You.

[Joe]

I like grass more. Cleveland.com gotta be moving fast.

[Debo]

Go check it out, brother.

[Joe]

All right.

[Debo]

They said expect the Browns to be paying on artificial turf. What you want me to do? I can't. I don't make this up.

[Joe]

You come with?

[Debo]

Yeah, I don't make this up, Joe. I don't. I don't like making up things, man. I don't like. I don't like Cleveland looking like Cleveland. I mean, let them. I mean, that's what they do.

[Joe]

But, you know, we're gonna be able to wear molded. Steve gonna wear. We just gonna know.

[Debo]

Oh, my goodness. Look at you, Joe. That's why y' all can't do nothing, y'. All. Oh, my goodness.

[Joe]

So I. I need. We need

[Debo]

this right here. Trying to tell you something, bro. Like every time, bro. I'm trying. I'm trying to.

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[Debo]

Trying to get you to do what you need to do, man. Help. You talking about the land and all the other stuff going to the. Like, what.

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[Joe]

Who.

[Debo]

You know what they gonna do then? They're gonna start holding all type of games there and all that. They're gonna have every game. That turf gonna be. It's gonna probably get tore up because they're gonna use it so much. They gonna have a game on there every day. They can. They looking for the bag.

[Joe]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Debo]

Why don't y' all look for the trophy?

[Joe]

We looking for the trophy.

[Debo]

Oh, y' all ain't been looking.

[Joe]

We are looking for the trophy.

[Debo]

I was like, hey, they got a trophy around here somewhere. I think. I think it's a. I think it's like a. A jackalope.

[Joe]

Don't get confused. Don't get confused.

[Debo]

It's a unicorn. You ain't. We looking for it. Put that horn. Y', all. Y', all. Y'. All. Y' all putting glue horns on horses. And.

[Joe]

Don't get us confused with just because we got

[Tony Ayo]

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[Debo]

or even going to

[Joe]

see.

[Debo]

So. Okay. I was making sure.

[Joe]

No, we haven't. We have. We on the way. We gotta first figure out what's going on with Shador. First guy figure out our quarterback situation. All right? Our defense been solid. We got the weapons on receiver. But right now, I was just worried about what's going on with that.

[Debo]

I don't know if that.

[Joe]

That. That. That.

[Debo]

I don't know if all that turf go Be gonna be able to move.

[Joe]

We're gonna be flying around on the turf, that's for sure. There's not gonna be a footing excuse, but damn.

[Debo]

Hey, I could have swore. I could have swore. Shador used to playing on grass.

[Joe]

Ain't you could play on all surfaces.

[Debo]

I'm just saying.

[Joe]

So don't complain. All surfaces. I'm just saying don't let the surface. The surface.

[Debo]

I'm not saying the surface go do nothing. But I'm saying it's gonna keep him healthy, healthier. Because when he getting sacked and plummet to the ground, it's gonna be a lot of turf burn on that turf from the sliding I'm getting slung.

[Joe]

It's gonna be a lot of. A lot of good blocking, a lot of pocket presence. We were talking about how Tom Brady's getting the head. The quick release.

[Debo]

If you don't. Don't do.

[Joe]

As soon as you beat. Soon as you beat your block. Oh, man, that shit got out his hands already. Yep.

[Debo]

Stop playing.

[Joe]

You know, right there he was ready right there.

[Debo]

He already know he patting too, man.

[Joe]

Everybody pat. And I should got a problem because he pat everybody.

[Debo]

I don't pat. I don't pat. I get that thing out.

[Joe]

Damn.

[Debo]

If I pat, it's this. Cause I'm pumping. That's it. I don't put on. And then it's.

[Joe]

You ain't never. You wasn't. I was a quarterback. I had a little. I had some time.

[Debo]

Joe, I don't believe you could throw that ball at all, man.

[Joe]

Debo, I gotta rock it. Wait till last. Wait till we link up next like your who game. I don't even want what we only lost. Look, I had 20 last game. That's all I'm gonna tell you.

[Debo]

How much you lost by four. Against who? Not the same team.

[Joe]

No, no, not the same team. Another team.

[Debo]

You ain't won a game yet.

[Joe]

We owing two. We only had two games. So the third game coming up this

[Debo]

week, Sunday, about to be owing three.

[Joe]

Ain't no way this team.

[Debo]

What you want to put on it, Joe?

[Joe]

I put 20 on it.

[Debo]

Oh, that's too much for me. Nah, hell no. No, I put. I put. Hell no. $5. I'm giving a dollar. I can't lose all that if I lose. See, I could do a whole lot with a dollar.

[Joe]

All right, they. But yeah, we're gonna.

[Debo]

Penny candy I could get with a dollar. You know how much water I could get poured into my hand for a dollar?

[Joe]

Debo, real question. You never played quarterback Though, before. Have you.

[Debo]

You think I was always big, huh?

[Joe]

No, no, no, I don't think it was always, man. I mean, maybe, Joe, I wasn't.

[Debo]

I wasn't. I wasn't always like this. I worked my way into this, Joe.

[Joe]

So you played quarterback.

[Debo]

I used to be victim weight like you. And I said, you know what? I'm tired of being over here and. And not going ahead and getting to feel what it's like to go and just put somebody down, put them to sleep. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I want to do that every day, every play. And I said, hey, I gotta eat weights. I started eating weights, Joe.

[Joe]

Okay?

[Debo]

Tender age of

[Joe]

probably 16. Sixteen, okay.

[Debo]

It ain't really work out for me as well as I thought it would. Cause I only left high school. I know my rap sheet said it was six' two, 210.

[Joe]

Ain't no. You ain't never been.

[Debo]

Oh, Joe, Joe, stop, stop, Joe, stop. Listen, I'm trying to tell you the truth. I'm trying not to. It said I was 6, 2, 2, 10. But, you know, as when I played in high school, it was always 2 inches and 20 pounds, so I was 6 foot, 190.

[Joe]

Okay, okay.

[Debo]

I'm just being honest. I was about to say so when they. Listen, Joe. I believe in my heart and soul. So when I got to college and I was able to play after having to sit out two years, and they. And they measured me and I was only six foot, I said, huh? I was like, yeah, you believed a lot. 1, 8. Something. 2.

[Joe]

The extra 2 inches that you put on back in the day.

[Debo]

What?

[Joe]

Yeah, you stayed right legit six foot.

[Debo]

But I was 270, though.

[Joe]

So when did you. Did you play quarterback during any of this time?

[Debo]

I played quarterback.

[Joe]

Don't lie, Deebo.

[Debo]

Listen up.

[Joe]

The lie.

[Debo]

Listen, listen.

[Joe]

I'm listening.

[Debo]

I played quarterback. Okay.

[Joe]

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[Debo]

It was on a video game, though.

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[Joe]

I'm like, when? When I knew you didn't play quarterback, Debo. Now, I could tell you legitimately. I will pull up my high school highlight tape and it's me spinning the ball, quarterback.

[Debo]

So I could throw the ball. I could throw the rock, Joe. I just didn't want to play the position because it wasn't hard enough position for me.

[Joe]

What?

[Debo]

No, it was. It wasn't. It wasn't enough contact. Joe. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna tell you this right here though. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

[Joe]

I was spinning that rock, Joe.

[Debo]

I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Listen, I played. I played the school. I can't remember the name of the school, dude, but damn. Quarterback, bro, listen, bro. I ain't. Listen, Big country white boy. Joe, listen. Okay, bro.

[Joe]

Is he nice?

[Debo]

This, listen, this, this, this, this, this dude, he played quarterback and middle linebacker.

[Joe]

Yep, yep, bro. Yep.

[Debo]

He was like 6, 2 6, 3.

[Joe]

Yep, yep.

[Debo]

About 232. 4.

[Joe]

Yep, yep. He was nice, too, hitting. Run y' all over. Was he more running? Was he running the ball at all or throwing? Or was he doing.

[Debo]

Swinging that thing? See, I ain't gonna lie. He was kind of weak at that backer. I put that ooh on him because I was.

[Joe]

I was.

[Debo]

I was tail back then. I put that ooh on him.

[Joe]

But that's what I knew.

[Debo]

I knew you look, our big lineman, dude, he goes running to tackle this dude. And you know how the lineman just grabbed like this? Yeah, man. He went to grab like this. Oh, dude, put his head down. Put his helmet right here. Ow. Dude, Corny. He ran him like he. He didn't run dude over. He hit, fell on top of the quarterback. They went back that way. But, bruh, do you know he cracked his sternum?

[Joe]

That's what I was about to say.

[Debo]

He fractured his sternum.

[Joe]

I knew it.

[Debo]

Oh, my. This dude finished the game with it. I said, oh, will you better than me?

[Joe]

Oh, you're a wild man.

[Debo]

I cannot. That's why you don't. You don't leave your chest open.

[Joe]

No.

[Debo]

Yeah, dude. Yeah. I was like. I'm looking at the film and I'm like, damn, that's. That boy got this the line. The inside linebacker got the same number as a quarterback.

[Joe]

That's him. That's him.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

When I say. He can slang that thing, man. He was throwing that thing like 50 yards on a rope, bro. Too bad they couldn't catch. It'd be like that, bruh, Let me go over here, man. Get these super chats, man, before we be over here.

[Joe]

What we got?

[Debo]

We got tennis. We got Tennessee Kane, 4$232 said after Patriots since the Jesse James touchdown.

[Joe]

I feel you. I feel you. That was. That was. That was. That was cheap. He scored. Knee down, cross the line, Tutty. I.

[Debo]

No, everybody know it, Joe.

[Joe]

Everybody know that.

[Debo]

Everybody knows, Joe. You know I know. Everybody know.

[Joe]

I know you know.

[Debo]

Look here, man. And you know, let's. Let's be. Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you. It was the refs. But listen here. I ain't gonna listen. I'll tell you something else, too, Joe. I was over there, man, when I went over there for the. For the. My last. You know, when I left the Steelers and y' all got kicked off the playoffs and we went to the Super

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Bowl,

[Debo]

I went over there and I was playing, bruh. And it was a call. It was a call that I'm looking at it on a jumbotron, I'm like, oh, yeah, they got us on that one, right? And the call comes out and it is the total opposite. It's in our favor, bruh. I actually looked at a dude. I ain't gonna tell you who it was. I said, what is that? He said, it's the Patriot way.

[Joe]

I said, See, they accepted the jankiness.

[Debo]

We get calls that ain't supposed to be a call sometimes. I said, so you know that call was wrong.

[Joe]

He's like, yeah, yeah, see that? Damn. At least he knew. At least that's at least some. A bit Patriots. They gotta know. They gotta know.

[Debo]

Oh, yeah, they got us. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, my goodness.

[Joe]

Yeah, that one was. That was. That was all the way janky. And at least when the real fan. When the Patriot fans know it was janky, but they gonna take it. They gonna take it. Yeah. I don't blame them if that happened. You gonna take it?

[Debo]

Ah, he's like, hey, he's. No, no. He said, no. He said this New England. That's what he said. He said this New England. He said, this New England. I'm like, oh, so that's what happened over here.

[Joe]

Damn, damn, damn, Damn.

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

You want to know?

[Debo]

Or is it just the same old national narrative?

[Joe]

This is what it is. Coveted Life. If you have a young. If you have a young quarterback, that, end of the day is a franchise quarterback, young and in his prime, and they have weapons on the offensive side of the ball. They always are going to say that they have a shot. When they had Jamar Chase and Joe, a healthy young Joe Burrow with T. Higgins. And then they say they're going to get some. They got some defensive pieces. They know if the defense is just average, they're going to be able to score 40. That's how they look at the Cincinnati Bengals. They can score 40, they can score 40. Their defense is just comparable. So when they have the young Joe Burrow with Ja' Marr Chase and T. Higgins, they look at that as an offense that's unbelievable. So if you can just have a competent defense, they're always trying to put the Cincinnati Bengals to a high level. He didn't Play a lot of last year, they're saying the injuries, but they're always saying, if Joe Burrow is on that team, it's Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, that offense, 40 defense, give me something. They're up there. That's how everybody. Analysts, the sports world, they look at them. With y' all got Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Y' all have 40 on offense every time. If they're out there, get you a defense that does anything and y' all could be able to get to the super bowl with us. They like, oh, do y' all got Aaron Rod? Y' all don't. Who's Yalls quarterback? The defense has been not doing the way that they've been doing. Like. Like y' all are just going to be average, average, average. What is the next thing so we know we can. I. I believe that we're still going to be n everybody else outside Nationals. Like the Steelers, when is the last time they won the playoff game? The Bengals were already to the super bowl with Joe Burrow, with Jamar Chase. They seen them do it before, so they always like, oh, healthy Joe Burrow. They gonna be able to get there. They gonna be able to do it. Just defense, do something. Defense, do something. So that's Brad. Like, Bengals, I. I keep looking at it, too. I'm like, yo, the Steelers won the division. They're like, Joe Burrow didn't play. Lamar Jackson wasn't healthy. Okay, okay. We got the same squad. Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay. We got better on offense. Defense is better. I'm looking at it. We're looking at it. Like, just come. Just chill. We can still be right. We're going to. We were in the mix last year. Nobody expected it. We got distiller. They. What they going to do? Oh, man, Aaron Rodgers. We still won the division. All right, now we got a better little squad. Defense, coaches, let's lock the fuck in. And now I think we can sneak in where other people are like, nah, they just going to be able to still go and do you know what I'm saying? 10 to 7, you know what I'm saying? Maybe make the playoffs, maybe not. Bengals, they just giving them a higher ceiling with a franchise quarterback. With Joe Burrow, like, he's healthy with them. They're going to put up 40. They went and got some defensive pieces. They're trying to acknowledge that if he can make it through the season, they're just better. I'm like, no, they're not just better. Like, we could play against them. Lock that Defense, lock that offense up, you know what I'm saying? They can't just go down and score on us at bay, you know what I'm saying? So we play our game. They're not just beating us and everybody's looking like, no Joe Burrow out there. They're going to be able to score how many times they want to score. So outside looking in, it's easy to say, you've seen Joe Burrow, be Joe Burrow and do it with Chase and Higgins. So they're always just, oh, no, with the healthy them, they're just putting 40 on the board. And now defense do something. So that's why everybody nationally thinks the Bengals are going to be so good. And I'm just like, you're going to have to play the games. They're going to have to score 40 still, you know what I'm saying? Joe Burrow's going to stand upright. These dudes are nice. You got ballers. So I'm not mad at you when you say it. Cause it does make sense. We've seen it before. But I just. It gotta happen. Season gotta happen.

[Debo]

Yeah, season gotta happen. Like I said, Joe, I don't agree with none of that. Covenant Life. $10 again, she said. If you were building your own powerhouse, where would you rank the Steelers today? And what has to happen in training camp to make them a legit team? Joe,

[Joe]

what will have to happen in training camp is, hey, I'm on podcast. Literally my thing is the defense, the execution, execution of the defense, execution of the offense. Everybody just execution. Like we have the players. If we can execute with the running game, blocking, stay ahead of the sticks, executing in the past game, people knowing their routes, assignments, being on spot, on time with the communication with Aaron Rodgers, the defensive side. I'm not seeing anybody running scot free. Like I said this before, people are in the same. If everybody's in their positions and dudes are just not going out of their selves, but just playing consistent football, good football, like disciplined football. I think we're going to be head and shoulders above what anybody else thinks because I think we're hurting ourselves. Getting ahead of the behind the sticks, just like draw like first downs, losing on first downs just because of hurting ourselves. So if we're not hurting ourselves, that's all we need. I don't like going through training. I just want to see us play the games the right way, not hurt ourselves. Offense, run the ball. Aaron Rodgers hit the dudes when we need them. When our running game's hitting one Safety come down. Dk, time to work on the outside. When we get through one on ones, let's hit our one on ones, you know what I'm saying? Like just basic football stuff. So it is not nothing going to be crazy, but it's just going to be you watching a good ass football team perform and not having people running around looking like an undisciplined team.

[Debo]

Okay, I'm with you. I'm with you, Joe. Coming to life, I guess she is back again for $10. She said, yo, this morning, GMA they featured the Browns helping in school with a new football field. And the little kid said, thank you, but the Browns are trash. She said, I hollered.

[Joe]

Oh, she's kidding.

[Debo]

She's kidding.

[Joe]

She's kidding. Great community work. Okay, I about to say kids, the kids, they, they go hard.

[Debo]

They don't make great community work.

[Joe]

I was out in D.C. the other day doing my community service. Kid like this. But you got drafted to the Browns. I'm like, bruh, dang, I got drafted, bro.

[Debo]

Like, yeah. I say, joe, I ain't get drafted. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

I ain't tripping, you know, hey, man, I'm telling you, these kids go hard.

[Debo]

I'm like, I'm so glad, you know what I'm saying? It got me to a team, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe]

That's what I'm saying. I don't want to make it, brother.

[Debo]

You know, give me, give me lombardies.

[Joe]

Then Lil Bruh asked me, how many championships you got? I was like, well, I don't have none in the league. He's like, how many? How many you got? He said, I got three. I was like, you talking about these little league championships, man?

[Debo]

I got like, oh, you gonna bomb on a little kid though?

[Joe]

After he bombed on me? Little man said, how many championships you got? I said, I don't got no. How many you got? He said, I got three. I said, you talking little Leagues, man, I got like 10, man.

[Debo]

Listen here, man. Joe, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, 100. He tripping, man. $5 he talking about, what up, Debo? And Joe, I'm going to be honest, I'll take Debo at quarterback over Aaron.

[Joe]

Oh, see, nah, D, he just can

[Debo]

learn to throw before the season start. Man, you tripping.

[Joe]

Ain't no way he'll be out there tripping, bro. A man from.

[Debo]

Thank you for the vote of confidence, but you set tripping.

[Joe]

Anybody throwing anything on this pod, it'll be me.

[Debo]

It's not you. If it's between you and me. It's.

[Tony Ayo]

Damn.

[Debo]

Show me. Oh, you're tripping, yo. You want to have a throw off?

[Joe]

A thousand percent. I'll come. I got it. You know what? When I bring it to the crib, I'm going to in basketball too. I'm gonna have a three point contest with you.

[Debo]

Whatever you want.

[Joe]

And we're gonna do.

[Debo]

I ain't got no basketball hoop though. I ain't got money like that.

[Joe]

No, I got. I'm saying you gonna come.

[Debo]

You got a football. You gotta bring the football too. Because I can't be going wasting no money.

[Joe]

I got all looks. I got all of the. The materials we need.

[Debo]

I'm about to say. Cause I ain't got none of that, man.

[Joe]

That I don't need you to bring nothing.

[Debo]

I go down to the Steelers facilities and see if they give me one though.

[Joe]

Oh, no, they definitely. I got this. We got some Steelers footballs right here.

[Debo]

Covenant life. She back one more time. $5. She said, Debo, have you received your Browns jersey from our future hall of Famer yet? Because I haven't. Well, I haven't.

[Joe]

My bad covered it. I still. I got you. I've been, you know, moving around.

[Debo]

Listen, he a brown. He go brown. When you trying, you trying. You're trying to. Hey, you see how fast you got this jersey?

[Joe]

She got distillers jersey like that.

[Debo]

Because the Steelers do it. When you say ask for something for the Browns, they start browning.

[Joe]

I sent her two stillers jerseys. So now I got a brown one on the way. I got a brown.

[Debo]

They start browning.

[Joe]

Chill out, Depot.

[Debo]

Let's go and do a new stadium. Let's put turf in no grass. You know, I'm just saying, Joe.

[Joe]

No, my boy hasn't. They are. We're gonna get that bag, man.

[Debo]

Tweezy. We got Tweezy. Five, two, four, said Joe. My man is twine. Hey, little Reese from Fort Washington Canyons. Congratulations. Congrats on a great. Congrats on great success. Crazy to see you where it all started. God bless you and the fam. Joe, my man.

[Joe]

Appreciate it. Appreciate. Lil Reese, my good man.

[Debo]

Little Re.

[Joe]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Debo]

It's Lil Reese.

[Joe]

Lou Reef for watching cannons.

[Debo]

Guys, we are way over. Hey, we want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download where you get your show, Joe.

[Joe]

Yo, love you guys. We will see you on Monday, same time, same place.

[Debo]

And we out.

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