Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Unk & Haddy on Viral Success, Gym Mentality & More!

Summary

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Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe – Part 2: Unk & Haddy on Viral Success, Gym Mentality & More!

Date: August 4, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Deebo, Joe, Hottie, and Trainer)

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Episode Overview

This vibrant, candid episode picks up the conversation between Deebo, Joe, Hottie, and Trainer, diving deep into the mentality behind “going viral” with gym content, the transformative power of challenging workouts, and the culture of toughness and mentorship they've built within their gym community. The crew trades stories about their toughest sessions, the infamous “tax” system, and what it really means to push past your limits. Beneath the joking and motivational banter, the discussion spotlights authenticity, vulnerability, and the lessons learned about brotherhood, self-belief, and overcoming adversity—on and off the gym floor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The "Tax System" & Gym Mentality

• What is "The Tax"?

  • Each workout set comes with a “tax”: pushups as a penalty for pauses, distractions, or breaking gym rules (like wearing jewelry or getting distracted).
  • Trainer: "It's tax. After every set, push ups. That's the baseline." (05:10)
  • Debo: "Unnecessary conversations. Not paying attention to the workout." (05:54)

• How Fast Can You Spot Who’ll Quit?

  • Trainer: “Five minutes. First set. First set extensions.” (06:19)
  • Asking “How many left?” signals mental fragility.

• Lessons in Mental Toughness:

  • Hottie: “It’s more the mental, you know what I'm saying? Like you gotta push past failure… You think you’re done, you’re not done, you got another rep in you.” (04:17)
  • The mindset: keep pushing when you’re sure you're spent.

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Viral Workouts & Authenticity vs. Content

• Real vs. Camera:

  • Not all who show up want real work; some are chasing viral moments.
  • Trainer: “A lot of people come in to find content. We trained like there was no cameras on. We was just getting to the money.” (14:15)

• Who Surprised the Crew?

  • Debo: “I think Ashton surprises because he didn’t have to live up to his persona… He got a chance to leave his persona at the door… and really earn his keep.” (14:43)
  • Matt Rife also impressed by maximizing his personal effort.

• Energy and Peer-Driven Motivation:

  • The gym chemistry: “Energy is transferable. Whenever How do you do some, I'm up next. And it just keeps going.” (15:16)

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Transformation, Vulnerability, and Brotherhood

• Emotional Walls & Letting Go:

  • Intensity in the gym leads to emotional breakthroughs.
  • Trainer: “When you suffer together… everybody lets that wall down.” (22:05)
  • Debo: “We hugged him and he started crying. I said, bro, let that out, bro. We men. Nobody here to break you, bro. We all go through…” (22:45)

• Life Lessons Beyond the Workout:

  • Pushing through the “pain” is bigger than weights—it’s about not quitting in life.
  • Debo: “If he quit, he goes broke. If I quit, people die… We can’t afford to quit on no aspect.” (24:05)
  • Joe: “Everybody’s not willing to risk their life for their lifestyle. They just want the lifestyle.” (24:35)

• Legacy, Mentorship, and Giving Back:

  • Helping kids transform, facing adversity together, and leaning into hard moments—these are central to the crew’s mission.
  • “Take that with you for the rest of your life… want to be remembered by good deeds.” (43:34)

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Personal Reflection, Sacrifice, and Inspiration

• Sacrifice & Calling Out Excuses:

  • Debo challenges Hottie for falling off workouts:
    • “So what the f*** are you waiting for, Joe?” (28:28)
    • Hottie: “It’s nothing but excuses. I was being lazy. So I’m literally starting back out today.” (28:38)

• Inspiration Sources:

  • Debo: Inspired by 80s action heroes—Rambo, Rocky, and bodybuilding greats. Gym became his therapy against the negativity of the streets. (45:02–47:45)
  • Trainer: Sought a better life for his family through work ethic; gym became his outlet after a soccer career-ending injury. (47:49–49:10)

• Injury, Patience, and Recovery:

  • Deebo’s battle with pec injury tested his patience and mental resilience, emphasizing the athlete’s cycle of comeback and self-reflection. (49:31–51:24)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• "You gotta push past failure… you think you're done, you’re not done, you got another rep in you." – Hottie (04:17)
• "If you stop in the middle of pushups… it’s another 20." – Trainer (35:33)
• "Take the top off the kill jar. When he did that, the whole workout changed… I love the nice guy… I need the bad man today." – Debo (10:00)
• “When you suffer together… everybody lets that wall down.” – Trainer (22:05)
• "Everybody’s not willing to risk their life for the lifestyle. They just want the lifestyle." – Joe (24:35)

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• The Tax System in Detail: 03:39 – 06:14
• Mindset & Identifying Grit: 06:14 – 07:04
• Transformational Workouts & Viral Culture: 14:05 – 17:18
• Emotion, Mentorship, & Brotherhood: 17:18 – 24:35
• Sacrifice, Calling Out Excuses: 27:45 – 29:35
• Inspiration & Personal Growth: 44:34 – 49:10
• Injury Recovery & Patience: 49:31 – 51:24

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Genuine Banter & Humor

• Lighthearted debating about gym infractions, tax penalties, and aggressive text messages (“Did I ask the question? I didn’t. I asked the question, right? ...The tone was up. Debo. The tone was aggressive.” (31:03–31:45))
• Playful old-head vs. young-blood rivalry:
  • “When you come, it’s gonna be me and you versus the two old heads, bro.” – Trainer (27:17)

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Final Thoughts

The episode captures the grit, competitive spirit, and real camaraderie that comes from shared struggle. The gym is more than a place to lift—it’s where lessons on discipline, mental health, and brotherhood are learned and paid forward. Through laughter, relentless teasing, and raw confessions, listeners walk away with a sense of what it means to never quit—whether you’re chasing viral fame, physical excellence, or just a better version of yourself.

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For next-level motivation and some serious laughs, this episode is a playbook for both fitness fanatics and anyone fighting to build a stronger mind, body, and community.

Transcript

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[Debo]

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[Joe]

Go ahead, baby.

[Hottie]

I say explain for me what, what is the tax system?

[Debo]

So the tax.

[Joe]

We gotta get Joe in there. Next one. Joe in. You can do it.

[Hottie]

Listen, I know I could do it because look, when y' all saying these workouts I prompt. My dad was a professional bodybuilder and he works out every morning. 4 o'.

[Trainer]

Clock.

[Hottie]

I want to get Joe, Joe in there. Joe, listen, we talking about reps. We're

[Joe]

talking about hella reps.

[Hottie]

I know I under Debo. I'm trying to tell you the one person that I want to go, I'm going to come for sure. I want to come and I want to bring my dad.

[Joe]

Bring your daddy with you.

[Hottie]

Yes, I promise you. Because my dad, he trains like you guys. I need to get back right? I need to get back right with the training, the pushing, the failure, the 150 reps, all the victim weight, the victim weight, my dad, he bout all of that. So when y' all are saying that. I know because the training that I started lifting when I was in the seventh grade, my dad was training me and my brother. So all of this stuff that you saying makes complete sense where it's more the mental, you know what I'm saying? Like you got to push past failure, you know what I'm saying? You think that you're done, you're not done, you got another rep in you, you know what I'm saying? You got another four, you could push it. So that mental state is everything. So I know I stopped working Out a little bit since I retired. So I get back in the gym. Debo. Chill out. Chill out. I definitely, definitely, definitely need to get back in the gym. So what's up with the tax system? I definitely want to come out there. Just let me know a little bit about after every.

[Trainer]

It's tax. After every set.

[Hottie]

Okay.

[Trainer]

Push ups. That's the baseline. Okay.

[Hottie]

Okay.

[Trainer]

So let's say we're doing tricep push downs and the count is 200.

[Hottie]

Okay.

[Trainer]

On your way to 200, you stop to take a breath. Like you put the weight down for a second. That's 20. That's tax. 20. So on top of your push ups, at the end of 35, you initially had. Now it's 55.

[Hottie]

Now it's 55. Okay.

[Trainer]

If you close your eyes, it's 20.

[Debo]

Jewelry, Joe.

[Trainer]

Yeah, the jewelry.

[Hottie]

Oh, yeah. Listen, it's no time to come in

[Joe]

there with no jewelry on.

[Hottie]

Ain't no.

[Joe]

Ain't no reason.

[Hottie]

Ain't no reason to have no jury on when I'm in the gym.

[Trainer]

Yeah, not. And yeah. And then whatever else we decide to tags. Really? Some boy.

[Debo]

Some.

[Trainer]

We don't like it. I'm attacks it.

[Debo]

Unnecessary conversations. Not paying attention to the workout.

[Joe]

Hey, man, they texting.

[Hottie]

No, no, for sure.

[Trainer]

I just. Whatever. Because sometimes it's certain. Like if I see somebody just acting like they tired, but I could tell they're really not.

[Debo]

Or yes.

[Trainer]

Moving a certain way for the camera. I'm just taxing all that. Taxing everything.

[Hottie]

How fast can you tell that somebody is going to quit or not ready for the gym?

[Trainer]

Five minutes. Five minutes. First set. First set extensions.

[Hottie]

Because when you tell somebody 200, then you'd be like, what you say? Hold on.

[Debo]

The first thing that we usually see is when the person says, how many left? So say we do tricep extensions and we'll get. And you'll have 43. Or let's say 40. You know how many I got left? 160.

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[Debo]

I don't want to leave anybody out there. I'm a stickler for the kids. And it's not about intimidation. Then you'll see like, oh, 160 a year. And don't stop because now you gotta do your push ups. You going straight from that exercise push up board.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Debo]

It's no walking around. Don't try to take no bathroom break. Stretch out of y.

[Hottie]

That's what I'm saying. But people aren't ready for that because you. You're lactic. Acid. What if your arms.

[Joe]

Dude, I'm Joe. I'm gonna tell you right now, like, honestly, it's a point. It's a point where ain't it a point of.

[Hottie]

Can y' all tell?

[Joe]

I had to jump back into who and what I was that built who I am, that, that person I was. Yeah, I had to jump into that. Like, matter of fact, actually, we got a clip where I'm doing pull ups, bro. Where I'm doing. I'm doing rose. And I grabbed this thing, bruh. And I couldn't, I couldn't get this song to move, bro. The first time y' all got that clip, y' all got that clip of me doing them rose. Whatever the compliments. Yeah, I couldn't lick the first time, dude. Yeah. They were like, hey, I can do it. And in my mind, I'm like, I know I can do it. I just don't want to dig into it. Why don't I want to do it? And I'm like, you know what? To hell with it. I gotta dig into it. So you go and you, you grind through it.

[Debo]

Literally.

[Joe]

That's just what you do.

[Trainer]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's no other way to get it done other than to be like, you know what? I'm done. I, I, before I even got to that workout, dude, I had said to myself, I'd already said to myself, I'm not digging into that. I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. I don't play all this time. I don't want to go there. And they got me into that space where I'm like, you know what? It. I'm go there.

[Trainer]

I watched, I watched your switch. I saw when you're switching. I saw it when it happened.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe, listen. No, no bs, right? I know me, I'm a, I'm a. I know how to poke the bear, so. Yeah, right. I know. I studied him. I know he has that switch, right? Yes. And the thing about it is, his switch is he's almost like Bruce Brandon in the Hulk. He gotta learn to control it because he can go way off the deep end. Yeah, I don't give a. Because I need it. I need you to be that man.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Debo]

He won't be the Hulk. I'm Frank Castle. We gonna tear some up.

[Hottie]

Yeah, I'm right here with you.

[Debo]

We was doing the push ups, yo.

[Hottie]

He.

[Debo]

He was cursing that he looking at me hot. I said, how he right? Really? We up in the head. But I said, debo, take it there. I Said, go back to that dark place. And I looked at hottie, his eyes, I said, what the. He had a transformation. That's what y'.

[Hottie]

All.

[Debo]

And I'm like, yeah, but.

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[Joe]

What.

[Debo]

What I'm trying to say is, Joe, he started off very positive, like. And it was an intimidating, good positive, like, if you know Debo or you study him, you'll see. Okay, yes, his facial expressions are intimidating, but that's just him, right?

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Because he's a man of. Of substance. He's not no pushover. So he can't prepare. He was warmed up. We said, oh, he's already warmed up. Isn't that. He had to tap into that bad, man. He had to tap into what we call. We call it a kill jar, right? Take all this stuff that's happened to you, put it in that jar, and sometimes you got to take the top off and let it go. And when he did that, the whole workout changed. I said, that's who I wanted. I love the nice guy. I respect the nice guy. I need the bad man today. Go find that man and bring him to me. That man doing the push ups. He felt that man doing a T bar. He crossed us out doing the lap. The rolls. That man was for a while.

[Commercial Announcer]

Play.

[Joe]

Play some more of them clips, man. I know we got some more lined up. But, Joe, when I say bro, it, and I'm looking for him to give me something back, and he wasn't giving me nothing back. And that was just pissing me off more like, I want to fight, bro. I want to fight this. I'm like, I want to fight this. Give me something like, I love you, bro. I'm like you. I'm like you.

[Debo]

Y' all was working in the volume play, man.

[Joe]

Let it play through. Let's go. There it is right there. Right there. Right here.

[Debo]

Okay.

[Joe]

How'd he get right? He ain't allowed to have these straps on, but he got the straps on. You change, you change. You change locations. What you can do, baby, go. This right here is funny.

[Debo]

Joe, listen.

[Joe]

How do you call it? Stretching them last? Stretching them laps. They don't look like you stretching them lights, man.

[Debo]

I see why they find you. Yes, sir. Sir, yes, sir.

[Hottie]

We get on that plane, him up

[Joe]

when you get on that plane for what, bro?

[Tony Ayo]

I don't.

[Joe]

Yo, man, they got a banter back and forth. That's beautiful, bro.

[Hottie]

Bro, it's love.

[Joe]

Yes, yes. Who negative here? Yes, he negative. Yes, he got the work done. How he negative, huh?

[Trainer]

Because he switched the bag.

[Joe]

He Switched the grip. He switched locations.

[Trainer]

He's speaking about.

[Debo]

Crap.

[Joe]

My body started cramping. I'm trying to do a pull up. I can't even lift my leg up because it's cramping. Like, I can't even lift my leg. It was a cramping my. In my hamstring, bro.

[Debo]

Back in my heyday when I played

[Joe]

safety and corner and here he over here lying. Long, long time ago, you started feeling good, you started telling all these lies. And

[Debo]

I try to backpedal now. Everything going there.

[Tony Ayo]

Pop those.

[Debo]

The weasel lock you down. I'm not ashamed.

[Joe]

Overrated as. Where the shirt at? Pull the shirt off.

[Debo]

I'm 400 weeks out.

[Joe]

400 weeks out.

[Debo]

6:00am 5 in the morning, though.

[Joe]

10 and 5.

[Hottie]

Oh, that's early.

[Trainer]

That's his fault.

[Joe]

He said 10 and 5.

[Debo]

He did 5.

[Joe]

He said 10 and 5.

[Debo]

This is when they had what he did. What he said get away with sitting down.

[Joe]

You do as I say, not as I do.

[Debo]

Cuz of that attitude. How you are came like, what side you on, bro? Bro.

[Joe]

So on that one, I guess I was supposed to do five. I heard 10 and five. So I did 10. And then the other one, I guess it was. It was supposed to be switched around, but, you know, hey, man, listen, I was. I had jumped into the bag that they wanted me to get into.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Joe]

And it was. It was. It was. It was over with for me. And I was. I was gonna do whatever the hell we was doing. And if I sat down, then the hell with it, you know.

[Hottie]

Hey, guys, I'm actually this. So the Ashton Hall. Do y' all remember the Ashton hall workout? Yeah, he gets clowned on the Internet. What do you think he learned from the workout? Did he do good out there?

[Trainer]

He did, yeah, he did great. Ashton came in to work. Like, a lot of people come in to find content. I've noticed that some people that come in, we trained like there was no cameras on. We was just getting to the money. He ain't complaining. His security guard jumping to workout. He was training?

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Don't bring no cameraman with you because they gonna throw that boy in that workout.

[Hottie]

Now who would y' all say surprised y' all the most?

[Debo]

I think Ashton surprises because he didn't have to live up to his Persona. Nobody don't give a about.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Debo]

You don't give a about no goyard bag like when he first came, because I hate to say it, his reputation precedes him. Think he's arrogant? You think he's soft? Yeah. All this. And it's because he's a well mannered kid with money that's successful. So if you don't know him, he's soft that don't soft but when you come in that gym. Hey bro, be you these cameras.

[Trainer]

Yep.

[Debo]

Got a chance to really be around two people that didn't give a about his money. We didn't ask him for his information. We don't want no sponsorship, nothing. We came to work like we gonna bring the dog out of you. What happened was he got a chance to leave his Persona at the door. That go yard bag in it. We about to get to it and he got a chance to really earn his keep. And I said bro, this is a difference. When you working out by yourself, you're working out with your personal trainer. They're going to spoon feed you. You don't give a you. It's men amongst men. He had. He wasn't deadlifting. He came with us and started deadlifting and started going crazy because he got an adrenaline rush because in their energy is transferable whenever. How do you do some? I'm up next. And it just keeps going. So. So for the first time in a long time he was able to be himself without being judged. Nobody had their hands out, nobody disrespected him. He got treated like everybody else. And then once you walk in, it's not about how much money you got. It's not about your stature. You can be the fucking. I don't give a fuck who you are. You come in there, you a regular fucking person just like us. And it just brought symmetry. So he shocked us. I'll say. Matt Rife did good.

[Joe]

I was gonna ask you about Matt

[Debo]

Rife

[Trainer]

salutes Matt Rife. I did not. I didn't expect him, bro. He came the same thing came in there. I didn't know what to expect. But he's a dog bro. You work hard. He worked hard. Some of these people might not be this. You come in, they'd be the strongest. But for what they can do, they max it.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Trainer]

Like you get their maximum output and that's really what matters.

[Debo]

He wasn't trolling, he wasn't training. It's certain people that come because he had a publicity at a gym and they want to be a part of the gym because they want to go viral. And for me I could be home with my family. I could be training for myself. Real talk pissed me off when I got people in there that really want to get to it and for the cameras but for them for their soul, for their body. It's a different type of, it's a different type of bonding. Yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. Yeah.

[Debo]

A couple times like when we train with Depot, one of the best parts of the training was the conversation after that. That's the real growth. That's the real, we gonna put in this pain together and we're gonna sit down and talk about it.

[Hottie]

Right.

[Debo]

So when we have these kids come in, some of them don't know what to expect. And so we said that we had a couple kids cry while working out.

[Joe]

I think that's, that's, that's a big part of, of, of yalls.

[Debo]

Yep.

[Joe]

Involvement or transformation from the actual workout to what, what, what comes from it. And that, that is like I said that that physiological and psychological aspect of it and basically what I think you're starting to get into is more of the mental aspect and the mentorship of it. Yes. And how many guys that you see, you know, you come in there and you look at them and you say, oh, he's not gonna be able to do it. But how many of those guys you look and you say, oh, he about to be a dog. This gonna be a dog right here. And how many of those guys are coming in there and you're just like

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[Joe]

You know what? He's trying to work through something. I can see it. I can feel it.

[Trainer]

You can see it in their face. It's also a lot of times when you meet people, like, even as men, we all got a little wall up. Yeah, you're not seeing past the wall. When you suffer together, you go through pain. And now we're all dying here together. Everybody lets that wall down. So we sit down after. That's when we. That's why people start crying. That's why sometimes their emotions come out because it's been suppressed for so long and they never to let it out. So finally they let their wall down. They're around people who care about them, who could give a shit less if the cameras were on or off. Yeah, and. And. And I think it brings it. I. I think it brings the best out of people. And then they're able to say, you know what, bro? This has really been bothering me. And this helped me a lot with that. I'm starting. They start to figure it out.

[Debo]

Like Shizzy. Shizzy was a. He's a young LA influencer. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that brand, but he came and the pressure on him to be perfect, the pressure on him to just do all these things. And he came in and while we film it, he like, I know y' all want to break me. Y' all want to see me fall like every yo, we not here. Make you better. So she stopped. I didn't care about the filming. And we hugged him and he started crying. I said, bro, let that out, bro. We men. We all should. Nobody here to break you, bro. We all go through, but no matter what, quit. I think that was one of the most emotional things. And when destroying came, he had a baby. I said, bro, if you quit doing this workout, you expect your wife quit to quit during labor. You're gonna quit, do a workout, but you want to ask her to push a baby out. What if she say, I don't want to do it? And she how the am I gonna make you, bro? You say things like that. It's a reality. So it's like, oh, for us, it's not about breaking nobody. We just don't want to see you quit. It's just something that I've been wanting, like, how did this. We gotta go. Because my mentality is a little bit different. I'm a firefighter. I can't afford to quit. No, his Mentality is way different. This is how he feeds his father, his mother, how he feeds himself. If he quit, he goes broke. If I quit, people die.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

So we can't afford to quit on no aspect. Whether it's being an influencer or fighting fires, you gotta fight through that. Ain't no say, hey chief, give me a water bottle, give me a Gatorade. In the middle of what a fire. And the lady's on the third floor that I'm going to get her if I lose my life in the process. So be this what I sign up for. That's his same thing. He does this to feed his family. So if he pushes to the extreme, the sun happens. This is what he signed up for. Everybody's not willing to risk their life for their lifestyle. They just want the lifestyle.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, yes. I think, I think, I think that, that, that, that's a big one right there, man. Everybody's not risk willing to risk their life for the lifestyle. Like it's, it's certain aspects that come along with everything that you do. Assumption, the risk is what it's called. And in that a lot is sacrifice. Whether it's, you know, time, money, emotion, blood, sweat, tears, whatever it is. And I don't think a lot of people understand that concept. I know you guys got the, the clothing brand. I see it back there. The, to the death, man. How long y' all been doing that? What, what, what, what, How y' all come up with that?

[Hottie]

It's the TDD.

[Trainer]

Yeah, since that's been. Since 2021 too. Like the same, around the same time where I started filming. It was just, it was something I always, like, my father always used to say to me, like anytime I was going through anything, he's like, well, it's going to be like that till you die. He's always say that like I'll complain about something going on in school. He's like, well, if it's bad now, it's going to be like that till you die. So from like to the death, bro, I'm just gonna go do this to, to you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna deal with it. Whatever happens, I'm gonna deal with it anyways till I die. The whole thing. And then that shit quickly came up in the gym because every set was like, oh, so you die to the death, bro. You know? And then it transferred over and we made it a brand, a community, a bunch of like minded people. I like to look at it less like a clothing brand and more like A community. It's everybody that. Everybody that I've never seen some like. I don't even want people wearing it if they're not gonna live the. Live that type of lifestyle, no question. Well, at least they invested in themselves to the point where they're getting in the gym every day. And, like, whether you're trying to be

[Joe]

a body, you got to start somewhere, baby, you know? Hey, how do you. I heard. I heard you. You did a little D1 soccer, and you got a degree in. What is that? Civil engineer?

[Trainer]

Yes.

[Joe]

Your soccer game. Where. Where is it at?

[Trainer]

What you mean, where? It's at.

[Joe]

Where your soccer game in comparison to. To. To, like, a professional, an amateur.

[Trainer]

Like, I'm right up there with them.

[Joe]

Right up there with.

[Trainer]

I believe so. He could have went, I'm a little heavy now, but I like. No, I know.

[Joe]

I seen. I seen you had. Victim weighed 171 pounds.

[Trainer]

Oh, I'm 225 pounds right now.

[Joe]

He was. He was 171 pounds, Joe. I seen it on his. I seen it on the story

[Trainer]

back then. Back then?

[Joe]

Yeah, that victim where he was running around there kicking the ball and everything.

[Hottie]

Okay?

[Joe]

He up there flexing all this other stuff with the little sweet hair and everything, laid back, greased down and everything, you know?

[Hottie]

That's crazy.

[Trainer]

D, bro.

[Joe]

Different now. He different now. I got a hold of him.

[Trainer]

Yo, Joe, look, yo, look, when you come, it's gonna be me and you versus the two old heads, bro.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Trainer]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, it's over with.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Joe ain't got it.

[Hottie]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you what I got, bro. We ain't talk about the weights, the drive and the push. You gonna see me go to another level. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Hottie]

I'm gonna go. I'm go till I can't. I'm gonna go.

[Debo]

Let me ask you a question. What's stopping you from training?

[Hottie]

Nothing.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Debo]

I'm looking at no answer to the question. I'm.

[Hottie]

Nothing. I can start back. I can start back training.

[Debo]

This is. This is real talk, right? My speak about sacrifice. God has blessed you to play in a national football league, something that I dreamed I could have went to. Right. And I was legit in high school and college, but I was kind of went on vacations to other colleges

[Hottie]

that

[Debo]

kind of derailed that story.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Debo]

I'm trying to say is God has also blessed you with a podcast, right?

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Debo]

With that being said, are you comfortable enough not to hit the gym?

[Hottie]

No.

[Debo]

So what the Are you waiting for Joe?

[Hottie]

And I know I'm. I'm. I'm. Do it right after this. I'm starting back today. I promise you. Today. You heard me. Because I'm not.

[Debo]

Not.

[Hottie]

What I'm not gonna do

[Joe]

is.

[Hottie]

I'm not gonna do is. What I'm not gonna do is I'm not gonna lie to. Because we got grown man. Grown man conversations. And I know I got a gym downstairs that I know I got one in this. I'm making an excuse. It's excuses. Nothing but excuses. It's nothing but excuses. I was being lazy. So I'm literally starting back out today.

[Debo]

All right.

[Concert Promoter]

So cool.

[Debo]

When you do it, record it.

[Hottie]

I'm gonna record it for sure. Every morning I'm back in the gym

[Trainer]

today, you know, I'm a check.

[Hottie]

I'm gonna get your. No, we. Debo, give me the number on the cell phone. On the cell phone. Oh, yeah. Now, Debo, you done messed up now.

[Joe]

What I done messed up with, because

[Hottie]

now I'm gonna get.

[Joe]

I never stopped. You think I ever.

[Hottie]

I know. Now I gotta catch up.

[Joe]

You think I ever stopped? Stop playing with me. You know what make it so bad, Joe? You know it make it so bad.

[Hottie]

Come on, man. He acting like I ain't got.

[Joe]

I'm working out about five days a week. I ain't even at seven.

[Hottie]

All right, but for real, for. I'm bringing my pops out there, too. I'm bringing Pops to the gym. I'm bringing Pops to the gym.

[Joe]

Pops to the gym. Because that's the person that can actually work out. That ain't victim weight.

[Trainer]

I believe in you, Joe.

[Hottie]

I think.

[Trainer]

Thank you. Not, bro. I hear they be saying the same to me that I don't like, yo, there's a clip. Maybe you could put a clip up. But, Joe, I was at the. The Fanatics Fest in New York, minding my business. Okay?

[Debo]

Yes.

[Trainer]

And moving peacefully. I turned my head around the corner. I see people looking at me with this face. This. The face. You know the face.

[Hottie]

Yes, yes.

[Trainer]

Myself. I was nervous. I was like, oh, I was about to turn back out. I'm a holla at y'.

[Concert Promoter]

All.

[Trainer]

But he caught me. He locked my eye. I had. I had to go up to him, and he started pressing me, bro.

[Joe]

I did not press him. I. I didn't even walk up to him.

[Trainer]

He walked right in front of the people. You live, Debo.

[Hottie]

You was sizing them up. I was right next to you.

[Joe]

I might have took a couple steps. I'm just saying I didn't press him.

[Debo]

You ain't getting that text message.

[Joe]

Did I ask a question? I didn't. I didn't. I asked the question, right? Come on, bro.

[Debo]

It was. You know what? I cannot tell a lot. It was a. It was a. I'm starting to sweat because I'm nervous, too. The question was asked, sir Debo, but it was a little on the aggressive. Like,

[Joe]

hold on, hold on, hold on,

[Trainer]

hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Joe]

I was just trying to find out

[Debo]

the other way.

[Joe]

I said. I said. I said, hey, hottie. You ain't get my text message.

[Trainer]

You did not say it like that.

[Debo]

You lying.

[Hottie]

Wow.

[Trainer]

I have the video.

[Commercial Announcer]

We got

[Joe]

you back. Can y' all pull the clip he's talking about? But I'm just telling y', all. I said. What I said was, hey, you ain't getting my text message. I don't know exactly the tone in which I said it because my memory is bad. I had concussions.

[Debo]

Oh.

[Hottie]

If you asking that, the. The tone was messed. The tone was up. Debo. The tone was aggressive.

[Debo]

Had to be Debo.

[Joe]

It could have been probably.

[Hottie]

Hey, bruh, I can already. I see it now a thousand percent.

[Joe]

Listen, it might have been aggressive because I've been told that sometimes when I say things, it sounds aggressive. I'm not. I might have been trying to make that one aggressive. I'm not gonna lie.

[Hottie]

You're a thousand percent.

[Joe]

When I get back into it and I think about it, because I was feeling some type of way, and I just seen him, and he. He laughing and joking. He's slapping hands and all that with everybody and all that, and he just go make like, I ain't texting. You ain't seen my text. That's how he said it. That's how he said it.

[Hottie]

I know that.

[Debo]

Hey, Joe. It didn't stop. It didn't stop there. So now we in the bar, we feeling like little mini celebrities because we ain't got no money. Joe, everybody, they got on jewelry. They got alcohol. I'm asking for complimentary glasses of water. People like this. And I'm like, yo, he found us in the bar.

[Joe]

They lying, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Joe]

Joe, you was there.

[Debo]

Joe, we was walking through, man, and

[Joe]

I just happened to stop by that.

[Hottie]

Happened to see him again.

[Debo]

Had to check on the table. Is you okay? I'm like, no, I can't.

[Joe]

Hey, Unc, you really. You really looked like you was okay. Wasn't that. Ain't that right, hottie?

[Debo]

Oh, wow.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, wow, yeah.

[Debo]

Yeah. It was a very positive Event and environment.

[Hottie]

Great event we talk about,

[Joe]

bruh. I'm telling you, man, when that boy Wimby came through there, man, he made me feel disrespectful like that. I don't like looking up at nobody like that. He was like, I'm kind of. I'm like, man, I might want to just.

[Hottie]

What'd you say?

[Debo]

Because that was our first time there. Did y' all enjoy it?

[Hottie]

That was our first time there.

[Joe]

I'm tell you this, it was my first time there. And I don't. I don't really drink like that no more. And I, you know, I'm older. I don't know, maybe because I wasn't drinking or maybe because I'm just not into that no more. You just standing around.

[Debo]

Yeah, that's how it was.

[Trainer]

Y' all getting old. That's what it is.

[Hottie]

Yeah, it was a lot of moving parts.

[Debo]

Fact.

[Trainer]

This is the fact. That was for me. There it is. Oh, wait, we said, we said, we said.

[Joe]

Oh, I drink.

[Hottie]

Yep.

[Joe]

I drink. Yeah, you sneaky pain.

[Debo]

I had to get to it.

[Hottie]

I was.

[Joe]

He said, give a. What?

[Commercial Announcer]

He did what?

[Joe]

He said, you do as I say, not as I do. Y' all want to bring up all the aggressive clips. That's crazy. Oh, you put chalk on is. Yeah, he put chalk on. He put chalk on. Hey, get your 35 drop down. Yes, sir.

[Trainer]

No chalk is allowed. The straps usually aren't.

[Hottie]

Oh, chalk is allowed. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Trainer]

It was four. Placing some chains on the bar. They want barbell rolls. I just woke up eight minutes ago, bro. Like, I put the straps on you make an excuse.

[Hottie]

Look, that's why me and you, we gonna work out perfectly. We gon get right.

[Joe]

Listen, Joe, ain't no straps for you. Come on.

[Trainer]

Early in the morning.

[Joe]

Hey, listen, man, we're gonna let you do all that, okay? The push ups. The push ups is go get you. I'm telling you that right now.

[Hottie]

I'm locked in.

[Trainer]

I'm focused on top of that, Joe. So if you doing your push ups, let's say. Let's say.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, listen to this.

[Hottie]

What's up?

[Trainer]

Not one stop. If you stop in the middle of your push ups or like put your knee on the floor or something, it's another 20. It's another 20 on top of the 35 or the 55 that you owe. So that number add up fast. Before you know, you might be at 250, 260 and looking bad.

[Debo]

All push ups. And we don't close the gym Till you finish.

[Joe]

Right.

[Debo]

All right, Joe.

[Joe]

And you can't touch the ground.

[Hottie]

How long does the workout, how long does the workout normally take?

[Debo]

So somebody die.

[Hottie]

See, that's what I'm saying. That's the ones. But that sound like my you to failure. I didn't give me a number.

[Joe]

There's no, no numbers. There's no numbers. So you do get a number. I take it back. You get a number at the beginning, but that number can go up.

[Hottie]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's, that's them workouts. I'm, I'm here for it. I'm here for it. But there's no, there's no ceiling. They just can keep moving the ceiling and you just gonna have to keep going.

[Joe]

No. You set? As soon as they tell you we got 200, we got, we got, we got, we got 35, we got, we got even. It breaks down to tens and fives like we were doing. But if you trick it off, it's a tax.

[Hottie]

Okay. No, that's what gets you. That's what gets you the taxes.

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[Trainer]

Tax is 235, so it's 235 that 235 can turn it to 350 with a couple little long breaths and a little break in between.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Debo]

Response. That's on you.

[Hottie]

That's on you. You determine. I got to be on pace. I got to be

[Debo]

controllables.

[Joe]

No, you're not. Listen to me. Listen to me. Come in there with your mind ready That I am going to go through hell. Yes. I'm going to have to push through it. Don't come in there like I did, where I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna come in here. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. I am not digging into my bag.

[Debo]

No.

[Joe]

That worked for, like, the first three sets. Nope, that was it.

[Hottie]

I already know what time it is, Devo. I already know what to expect, so I'm already coming.

[Joe]

Listen, they taxing the hell out of me without telling me about the tax knee hit the ground. That's attacked. What you mean? Attacks 25, 20 more, huh?

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Me touch the ground, bro. They don't tax me so tough. I said, you can text me all you want to. You can't get. You can't get. You can't get nothing out of. You can't get blood out of. Turn up, baby. I'm like, y' all tax all you want. I ain't got no money. I'm like.

[Hottie]

I'm like.

[Trainer]

He had the color. He had the color. Water.

[Debo]

The color. Water. Hydration. Drink water.

[Joe]

Hydration, Joe. Hydration is supreme. Joe Got to.

[Hottie]

I know you sweating.

[Trainer]

While we training. While we training. Ain't no time for us to go take. Get a little water break. We do that after. We just go.

[Joe]

You listen. You go kill yourself. I already did a whole hour of cardio, and you want to tell me I can't drink? Man, kiss my black ass. Imma get me something to drink.

[Trainer]

Nah. But you know what it is. You know what it is. Especially even with the influencers. Like, you come in there.

[Hottie]

The.

[Trainer]

The. What really happens is you find out about yourself, bro. No, you really learn about yourself because everybody's. Everybody coming like, oh, yeah, it's just a workout. I could do this.

[Joe]

Or, no, it's not, bro.

[Trainer]

Everybody's on some.

[Joe]

Everybody I knew looking at it, it wasn't just a workout out.

[Trainer]

Yeah.

[Joe]

My kids. I said, bro, I'm not, dude. No, I'm not, bro. I ain't got that in me no more. I don't even. I don't even desire it like that, son. I don't lost. I'm not. I'm telling them I don't lost every competitive bone in my body. I ain't got nothing. I'm telling them everything. Dad ain't going there, bro.

[Hottie]

I'm telling you, this Debo, everything, man, pulled that out.

[Joe]

And I'm like, God damn it. Now I gotta go there.

[Hottie]

What y' all doing the workouts with the people that makes every difference because you can tell somebody what to do, you know what I'm saying? But you showing me like, man, I'm hitting these two. I got, I got a hunted. So you got to go hit the hunter. So having y' all do the workouts,

[Trainer]

17 year old kids in there doing it too. People come in and the 17. Our 17 year old kids will drop them off, drop them smooth facts right off the jump.

[Debo]

Right off the jump. We'll, we'll. They'll jump in and they can't understand. And I'm like, yo, he's 17, he's 18. But they've been there.

[Hottie]

The condition, they've been doing this and,

[Debo]

and our condition for them was, okay, I want y' all to do something besides this. So now they go to football camp for Montclair State, August 11th. We got two of them going out of my nephew AJ and that's the type of stuff we do. We, we. It's about you growing with us so we can help you to grow, go whatever you like. We, we support it. If it's positive, we're going to support it because it's, It's. This is how I look at life. And how do you tell you when you leave, you can't take none of this with you. So certain things you got to give away, and that's knowledge, motivation, and sometimes time, because you can't. You want to be remembered by good deeds, and you want to be representative by the goodies that you did. People keep it going. So that's what we try to give back to the community all the time. And as we try to get these learning lessons, these life lessons, like, once you leave here with us, take that with you for the rest of your life. So that's, that's just our. That's what we try to do.

[Hottie]

Hey, who and what inspired you?

[Debo]

Me? Yeah, I understand. I, I grew up like in the 80s, so I'm older. So all we have is Rambo movies. What the is so funny. He's gonna get fired.

[Trainer]

Before the iPhones came out.

[Debo]

No, but it was a little bit different. Like all we had was rock.

[Trainer]

Go ahead, bro, tell the story.

[Debo]

You got a lot of why you sliding away? It was. Everything was about being in shape. And of course, I played sports. And for me, it was just. It was something that was different. I never did drugs. I never. I never. I never. I hardly ever drank. Never smell. I just wanted to always be in shape. So you gotta figure, like, Rambo and all that everybody was in, had a nice physique. And then. No. I started going to Diamond Gym when I was 16. Like real life superheroes, like. Oh, yeah. Just. Even when I was in the, you know, doing good and doing bad, I always stayed in the gym. And then I thought as I got older, it was therapy for me mentally. Like, it's certain things, if you tell your girl, she'll use it against you. You tell your homeboy, he'll think you weak. You can't tell Mommy because she gonna tell Daddy, like. So certain things as a man, you got to deal with internally. And I went to the gym, and I used to always say, okay, I'm gonna turn my pain into power. Whatever I go through mentally and physically, I'm gonna take that on myself in the gym, and I'm gonna make me a better person. So that's. That's just. It's just my inspiration was, like, looking at Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates, of course, CT Fletcher, and honestly speaking, and this is not. No, because Debo was on the. On. On the live, but watching him transition from football to getting in shape at his age, because we kind of the same age, he's still playing with 500. He's still doing them Debo things, listening to Machiavelli, throwing the weights. I find inspiration in that. And I'm like, yo, if he could do it, I could do it. Because you never know who's paying attention to you for the good, not just for the bad. Oh, he got a bad attitude. He was getting fine.

[Concert Promoter]

Fuck all.

[Debo]

He's an athlete, you understand? Y' all mad cause y' all can't control them. Yeah, man's in shape, so you want to piss test them every week. I pay attention to everything because you control fear. And this man is invested in his body, but he made his body a weapon. Just because he made his body a weapon does not mean he's a threat.

[Joe]

Yes, sir.

[Debo]

That was my biggest thing. And I watched him put the work in. And then to go to the gym with him, he's training. 4 o' clock in the morning. I said, howdy. 4 o' clock in the Morning. 30 or something like that. So for me, I'll just say, like, my biggest inspiration Was to be healthy. Because in my hood, everybody's high. It's a lot of junkies. It's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of bad stuff going on. So that was my positive. Away from the hood, I got you. I always wanted to be different from everybody.

[Hottie]

Good stuff. What about you, Hattie?

[Trainer]

My inspiration.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Trainer]

Honestly, bro, was always just like, my whole thing was creating a better situation for my family. It was just bad. So my thing was, I was trying to play. I was playing soccer. That was my whole thing. I was gonna go pro since a young kid. I'm training. Like, I was. I would go to training in the morning, and then midday I had practice with the team, and then at night, I was going to the gym by myself. I did that my whole life.

[Debo]

Yeah.

[Trainer]

I told my mco. And then, bro, all I knew, the reason why I got so heavy in the gym was because all I knew was, like, my physical output. Like, I related physical output. How hard I work can get me here. So when I lost that and I wasn't playing anymore, I was like. All I knew how to do was physical. I didn't know how to, like, I'm trying to get to it and make this better for my family, but all I know is physical. All I know is, like, that type of work. So I just put all that into the gym, bro. And, like, that's why when he told y' all the story, like, he, like. He called me pretty boy and then I asked him to work out. No, he called me pretty to the point where I'm. I'm really. I'm really going through it because of my knee. I was depressed. I wanted to him up. That's why I said, yo, I hit up my man. I said, yo, tell the old man keep calling me pretty boy. I want to work out. We're gonna see how pretty I am. That's a fact.

[Hottie]

That's a fact.

[Tony Ayo]

That's the truth.

[Trainer]

Because he was doing it every day. On my bad days, you know. You're having a bad day.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Hottie]

Calling you pretty boy.

[Trainer]

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Not just pretty boy. Rib shot. Oh, like pretty boy. And he walk away. And you're getting like. Like, now manhood being tested, you know?

[Hottie]

Because it's true.

[Joe]

How you coming back from that injury, man? How you told me he did that to you.

[Debo]

Yes, it's all right. I'm gonna answer both part. Yes, it's true.

[Joe]

I did it.

[Debo]

I hit him a lot, and I do. And now, yeah, I actually the funny thing is I tore my, my pec muscle in 2003 at my place, state benching. And then I, I kind of re aggravated the tendon. Then the tendon popped off. So I met a good doctor at Summer Health, Dr. Vasquez, and he said I could repair it. I'm like, bro, it's been Tor since 2003, so it's 20 years of Scar tissue and then had shriveled up. So they repaired it, they brought it over. So I'm on my 9th week post op. I've been out to sling for 2 weeks. I'm slowly getting back in the gym. I can't go full throttle because they said it's gonna be like six months. But oh yeah, I explained to the doctor I need it. I cannot even if I go to the gym to walk on a treadmill or go to the gym and watch them train, I need it. It's a part of, it's a part of who I am. And I don't think people understand that. I know as athletes, when you get hurt watching people want to feel play and then you guys, the thing about you guys getting hurt, money's involved, your career is involved, your stats is involved, but it's also a mental toll on getting hurt. And people don't see that aspect of, damn, I can't be in the gym. I'm losing weight, I'm losing strength. It just played with me mentally until I got my rap around it. And honestly speaking, I had to. You said something to us when we was in. It was in Pittsburgh and also when I spoke to you when we was texting dming, be patient. So I had to look myself in the face and like, damn, if I'm telling all these kids to be patient, I got to be patient. So I was patient for six weeks. God, lord, willingly. I was able to get out the sling. So now I'm starting to rehab back and get back to it. But just doing something little means a lot to me because I'm staying active. So now it's going to be the challenge of being better than where I was at.

[Joe]

That's a build up. That's a process. Everything take time. Anything worth having takes time. And it takes a little bit of pain and perseverance to get to it.

[Trainer]

It's different for us. You know, most people, bro, most people, honestly, they get like fomo. They. They feel like they're missing out. When people going out to the club here, going there, they feel they want to be there. Like, he really like. And I'm the same way you get fomo. When I see people at the gym and I'm not there, I'm like, yo, they in there working and I'm over here. Like, I'm on my couch. I get up and I'm going. Uncle used to go live every day at Diamond. Sometimes he wouldn't even call me. I see him go live, he there. All right, It. I get up, put my shoes on, and I go. I'm saying. And that.

[Joe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Trainer]

It's a different circle that you surround yourself with and people that you're around. Yes, it could be. It could be that. It could be left field. I want to go to the club, I want to go here. I want to go throw everybody out. Or it could be this. You know what I'm saying? You choose what you kind of fall in love with.

[Joe]

Yeah, definitely. It's the. The company you keep will. Will speak to the person that you are and. And the things that you do and. And what it is that you. You want to do. Aspire to be and everything else. So, you know, what we want to do really, though, is we don't came to that mark. And we want to thank you guys, man, for coming on. We appreciate you. We're gonna ex. Set up this workout for Joe, myself and my father. And hottie with your father there. That way it's three old heads.

[Debo]

Yes.

[Hottie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, if y' all ain't know Joe

[Hottie]

young, past the same age, he work out 4.

[Joe]

He ain't young as hottie. I think Hottie. Like, was you 27, 28, something like that? Young, young man. How are you, son?

[Trainer]

27.

[Joe]

I got kids your age.

[Hottie]

27, hottie. I'm 37.

[Joe]

I got. I got. I got kids. How the age? Okay, so I might bring my son with me, too, just in case, you know what I'm saying? And matter of fact, we go set it up. We're gonna set it up so we could do it here again. Because I like getting up early. I don't know. I don't know about. I don't know. I don't know about all that. You know, that other stuff y' all do, I got. I like getting up early, and I like having certain things, you know, I gotta have. I gotta get my treadmill.

[Debo]

I gotta be able to walk.

[Joe]

I gotta. I gotta. You know, I gotta be enough. So what we gonna do is let you. Joe.

[Hottie]

Yes.

[Joe]

What it's like to go through this. I'm gonna already remember what it's like, and I'm gonna be ready for it this time.

[Hottie]

I know we're doing it for show and I need.

[Joe]

I'm going to the dark number after this. Before I even get there. Like, I'm going, I'm going. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna switch it over. I'm gonna try and switch it over. I'm saying that right now, but you know, I'm saying that right now, but the switch over. Actually it takes a little bit of pushing, you know what I'm saying?

[Trainer]

I know what pisses you off now. I've already learned you.

[Debo]

There we go.

[Trainer]

We're gonna get right to that in the first three minutes.

[Joe]

Cut the here, right here.

[Debo]

There we go.

[Joe]

Hey, man, look here, man. We want to thank y' all for coming on, man. Ladies and gentlemen, please thank our guests. Make sure you like subscribe, download like this episode so they know and know that you appreciate their time and being here.

[Hottie]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Adi, thank you again for coming.

[Trainer]

Joe, thanks for having us, man.

[Hottie]

I appreciate you guys, man. And we will see you guys on Friday.

[Joe]

Let's get it see we out.

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