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Deebo & Joe react to Bills firing Sean McDermott, Texans COLLAPSE vs. Patriots, Bears fall to Rams
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James Debo Harrison
Welcome back to Deebo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe and download wherever it's possible. Joe, yo, what up, Debo today, man?
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Joe Hayden
Bro, I'm doing great, my brother. I'm doing good. Watched some football yesterday. Some crazy, crazy, crazy games. I was fully vested. I was. Cause it was just. Good ball, good ball, good ball, great.
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James Debo Harrison
Ball, good ball, good ball. I mean, it's just exciting, you know, when you. Like I said, man, when you ain't got a dog in the fight, man, it just feel good.
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Joe Hayden
You feel free.
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James Debo Harrison
I don't care.
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Joe Hayden
You could really watch. You can really watch. Yes. I want to see what's happening.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes, man, let's jump on over here, man. To the. To the Patriots, man. Patriots and Texans, 28 to 16, brother.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, my goodness.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, bro. It was. It was. I don't know. It was. It was good starting off, you know. Get the ball. They get out there. First down, Houston don't give him nothing. Second down, I'm just gonna say three, nine. Cause I cannot pronounce that dude's name to save my life. He made a nice play immediately on the next. On the next play, on the third down, he made a nice play on Diggs right there, keeping them to six. They punt the Rock back over Houston. Get the ball. First down, they hit the little play action. C.J. kind of throws it behind Hutchinson.
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Joe Hayden
Brother, Brother. Yeah, that's. Yes. And that's. That. That. That was the. Of the game. It was wet, it was raining. But like, from the rip off the first play, I'm like, okay, C.J. like, the team wants to get him started, get him going. And I'm like, okay, this is not looking good.
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James Debo Harrison
Too far, you know, it's just one throw, man. It's one throw, man. A chance. Let it play out, man. Let it play out. See you jumping too far ahead, man.
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Joe Hayden
I'm not.
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James Debo Harrison
Second down, Mark's got him a hot little three. And the third down, CJ Hit. I think it was Kurt, like, right on the money. He just dropped the ball. That could have continued.
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Joe Hayden
That was in the heart. Yes, but that's what you could tell.
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James Debo Harrison
See what I'm saying?
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Joe Hayden
No, no, for sure, for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
They gotta punt The Rock back over. They punt the Rock back over to New England. They do like a little, little screen right there. I think Stevenson picked up about nine. Second down, they hand it to him. He gone Twanky. Yes, Twanky. Till I think the Houston. What was it, like 35, 37, something like that.
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Joe Hayden
That's when my man Stingley, they made him have to get to the edge. You gotta set the edge.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, you gotta get up there, you gotta put it on like you can't, you can't. You can't wait. Texans. And they end up, you know, locking them down. On that first and second down, I think they dropped Henderson for like a loss of two on the. On the first one. And then the second down, it was 3, 9 again. He went and got it. He attacked it. He. Dude, he almost made Henderson fumble. That's why he couldn't shake loose, because he was sitting there trying to make sure he was holding onto that ball.
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Joe Hayden
Yes.
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James Debo Harrison
They get to third and 14 and May hits Diggs for 13 yards. Brother, great catch. Great catch things out there.
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Joe Hayden
Hand time.
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James Debo Harrison
Fourth and one. Fourth and one. Wow.
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Joe Hayden
They going for it.
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James Debo Harrison
They're not playing this dangers. Go for it. They got all of it. Got all of it. Like, you got to. You got to hook that hand on that backside.
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Joe Hayden
You got to try. Yes, he was there. He was a good defense, but that's a great pass. But you got to make sure if you're not there to make the play, you got to get him on the ground.
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James Debo Harrison
He actually tipped the ball, bro.
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Joe Hayden
He did. He did, he did.
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James Debo Harrison
He didn't hook his back hand, though. He.
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Joe Hayden
That's both. You know, you got to do both because if you miss that, you got to be able to tackle. So that's why you. Sometimes we get in trouble for spinning them, but I'd rather spin them than he catch that thing. You miss and he go all the way to the crib.
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James Debo Harrison
Plus they wouldn't even call it because your hand got on the ball.
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Joe Hayden
No, no, for sure. You would have been good.
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James Debo Harrison
You know what I'm saying? 28 yard touchdown. Now they up 7. They up 7, 0. Texas. Get back out there. I think it was Marks. I think he got like maybe, maybe two before they knocked his helmet off his head.
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Joe Hayden
They was hitting out there all weekend. That's why football, they were stinging. Everybody was getting smacked.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Second down was incomplete. I don't know. I think that one could have been picked too, though. Yeah, I think it was third and eight. And cj, he made a, you know, he made a, he made a great play. Just dumping it right there to shows the tight end. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like he do something great here and do something good here. Makes a. Makes a good throw here, makes a great throw and then he'll thr something short here. Shows went on here, picked up. I think it was 42 to the New England 27. And then I believe they fought, started. They ended up the next play. I think C.J. he was, he was under a little bit of pressure right there. Again, he was under pressure and made a nice throw. Like the next play it was like just, it was just incomplete. I think they ended up getting to like a third and six and CJ hit Kirk for. What was it, 10 plus they got a face mask on that one. They ended up pushing them to like the six yard line. So it's first. What is it? First in goal or something like that in New England? I think the next play they ended up stuffing old dude on the run. Second down, Schultz, I think he got maybe five and then it was third and goal and it was Marks up the middle for a nice touchdown. But Bruh, the fullback, the D lineman did not have his hand on the ground yet. When they started to play, they got him for illegal shift. They better not count to third and six. It's incomplete. Ended up having to settle for the field goal is three to seven.
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Joe Hayden
Yes. That. Yes. That was probably one of. That was their best drive. That was like they. They had a couple drivers. That was a good one.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah.
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Joe Hayden
You can't.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes. Until Patriots get back out there. Houston's defense do what they do, nothing on the first down. I think they batted down the pass on the second, third and 10. They sack, fumble my guy. But they don't recover it.
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Joe Hayden
Dude, you gotta, bro, you gotta just get. You gotta grab on that. You gotta drop on that. Even if you get it at the 15 yard line, you kicking it back, it's going all the way back to the one they recover it. We lose so much field position with the defense. Like that's what I'm saying. Defense, hooping, balling. But when your offense is like, you gotta be able to try to like they need everything. So defense was doing all that they could, but just the extra fall on the Brock.
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James Debo Harrison
Right.
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Joe Hayden
No matter what.
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James Debo Harrison
I know what they thinking though. They like, they trying to scoop a score. We trying to go all the way. They be having trouble. They've been having trouble. You know, we trying to go ahead and get this and take it to the house, they don't get it. They end up allowing them to punt the ball. Yes. Houston, get the rock back. I think it was first down, ain't getting nothing. Second down, it was just incomplete. Dude was just pressured all night. But like I said then, there's times where, you know, he's under pressure and he makes a great, good throw. I think it was third and 10. He's under pressure again, and he makes a great throw to Higgins for nine yards. Like, great throw, great catch. Like, he put it where it's supposed to be.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
Like, they go for it on fourth and one. Chubb picks up the first down. Yep. And then the next play, he is picked.
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Joe Hayden
One knee equals two feet.
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James Debo Harrison
Dude, that was. That was fire, angle, fire catch.
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Joe Hayden
Carlton Davis out there showing ball skills, and it was just an overthrown ball. Like, that's. You know what I'm saying?
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James Debo Harrison
Like. Yeah, you what? What we said before. Like, if he takes care of the ball, they got a chance. If he don't take care of the ball, they ain't got a chance because.
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Joe Hayden
Your defense is out there fighting for their lives. So they're going to continue to fight, but you just gotta don't punt the ball. Drake May wasn't balling out like that at the beginning. The Houston defense was hooping, but he wasn't trying to give them the Rock as much.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah. Pass. Get the ball back. First down, they gave it to Stevenson, but then May scrambles on what looked.
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Joe Hayden
Like, I guess, what was it, a miscommunication play?
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James Debo Harrison
Something. Something happened. Yeah, he gets, takes off.
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Joe Hayden
Give me that.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes. Dude. He went perfect onto the punch of that ball, dude.
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Joe Hayden
Houston's defense fighting for their lives out there. Debo.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, they recovered the ball. I think they started, what, the New England, like, 25, something like that, man. Houston comes out there. I think the first. First down, C.J. was decent. He hit Higgins for five marks, ran for four on the next one. That put him to the third and one.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah.
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James Debo Harrison
Push was Stauffer that. Get them two. They got a first down. Then I think it was March for another six, followed by no gang on the second down. And then I think it was third down. C.J. hits Kirk for 10. Tuddy. That's how they're supposed to do it.
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Joe Hayden
That was a nice corner route. Ball was a little bit behind, but Christian Kirk was able to catch it for the touchdown.
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James Debo Harrison
Right now it could be 14, 10, but it's 10, 7, 10, 7.
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Joe Hayden
Mm.
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James Debo Harrison
Pat's get the ball back. First play. Yo, that should have been picked.
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Joe Hayden
Yep.
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James Debo Harrison
That should have been picked.
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Joe Hayden
Yep.
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James Debo Harrison
He could. He could have had that, boys.
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Joe Hayden
I'm.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, he could have had that.
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Joe Hayden
He could have. He could have. For sure.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. They get the third and seven. Patriots get the third and seven. And May scrambles for that thing. What do you get, like eight or nine? Something like that. Yeah, they stand up. I think it was the next play. They stuffed them. Nothing. Second down. I think it was just thrown short. I guess they could have made that one. When you look at it, if he hadn't thrown that one short, he could. They could have completed that one. And then the third down, they just tried to bomb on him.
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Joe Hayden
Boy, that was a little bit. He had him by a step and by a step on that. On that one, for sure. Yeah, it was a long foul ball, but they had long. Yeah, long for high five ball. Nobody. Nobody remembers it, but, like, I'm like, oh, I seem to be caught four off the line. I'm like, oh, my goodness. And you saw him, he was prince, like, yes, okay, that's good. He threw it too far. He knew that could have been crazy.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, for sure. They punt the Brock back over to Houston. First play, they tried to do the little. Little play action, but New England was ready for it. They pressure CJ and he makes a bad decision to try and throw. Is tipped up in the air. Jones comes down with it and proceeds to do what Houston was trying to do. He goes 26 to the house.
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Joe Hayden
It's to the Baya.
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James Debo Harrison
To the house, 14, 10.
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Joe Hayden
Now, do we throw this out of bounds? Do we throw this away?
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James Debo Harrison
We can't on that one right there.
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Joe Hayden
We can't just throw it up in the middle of the field. We gotta do something.
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James Debo Harrison
I think. I think that's one of those situations. I don't know where the running back was. I ain't gonna lie. Or where whoever he was, he was trying to throw it to. But on that, if I'm here, I'm like, yo, I'm just gonna have to eat this one, like. Or do one of them sidearms down the side, like, around chucking ducks, trying to get it there. Yeah.
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Joe Hayden
And throw it, like, to the ground.
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James Debo Harrison
But then if you don't get it past. I don't know.
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Joe Hayden
Okay.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, it's a lot.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, it's a lot going on.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot that's going on with that man. Houston get the ball back. First down, they drop marks for a loss of two. Think it's second. 11 yes. CJ hits Hutchinson, right?
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Joe Hayden
Yeah. He get.
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James Debo Harrison
He.
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Joe Hayden
He gotta catch that, though. It's a little high. It's definitely a little high. I'm trying to look out for him, but at the same time.
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James Debo Harrison
No, no, no, no, no. He got hit. Hutchinson for the 12 yard in the first down.
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Joe Hayden
Okay, okay.
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James Debo Harrison
I think it was Marks.
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Joe Hayden
The.
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James Debo Harrison
Later. The next play, they drop Marks again for the negative one, but here is where you're talking about.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, it's genius.
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James Debo Harrison
It's picked again because. Yeah, he got it. He got to grab that 100. He gotta grab that, let it fly off his hands. Yeah, I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna fight him for that one.
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Joe Hayden
That's the. That's the one pick. I'm for sure gonna put that on the receiver. But still, we. We gotta catch that. Tips and overthrows. They're going to get picked.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Pats, get back out there. Houston, put out the fire again, brother. Second down, firefighters. Yes, firefighters, brother. They sack May for a loss of eight. It's third and 13. I think they only picked up five. They got to punt the Rock back off. Houston gets the ball. Now the defense of New England says, okay, we could do this, too. Three straight plays, bro. They was on cj, Man. Yeah. Three straight plays. They got to punt the Rock right back over to the. To New England, first down. It wasn't even that much. It was only like three yards. Then May, his booty, he takes it 25 yards to the Houston, what, 28, 30 yard line, something like that. That. Then again, I think it was Henderson for a lot. Little hot three, followed by May to booty again for 18. I think it's first and goal at what, the seven or something?
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Joe Hayden
Yo, this was the best drive of the game.
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James Debo Harrison
Howard Kensington, power catch, man.
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Joe Hayden
Time.
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James Debo Harrison
I know that's what a power catch look like, bro.
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Joe Hayden
That's what I'm trying. That's what I'm trying to take. That was a great throw. Hit him in the hands and bang, bang. You knew he was going to get hit. And you see when he went to the ground, he was going through.
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James Debo Harrison
It, bro.
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Joe Hayden
He's not going to touch the ground. I'm going to palm this ball and get smacked and move it like. No, I got this. That was just a great catch, bro.
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James Debo Harrison
And still held onto it all the way to the ground. Controlled.
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Joe Hayden
Yes.
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James Debo Harrison
21 to 10. That's what they rock back. I think the first. First down ball was just tipped. They end up false starting. It's second and what, like 15? They end up getting the first down because of the defensive PI. Then I think Marks, immediately after that, was dropped for like four or five is second and long. And CJ his Higgins for 16. Nice, nice, nice. And he proceeds to follow that up by getting picked off again.
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Joe Hayden
Bad ball placement just to the sideline. Scrambling right there. A ball behind that's getting picked. You got to throw that to the sideline inside. A lot of them balls he inside behind. Those are going to get picked up like. And that. And that just looked too easy. Looking right at him just. I'm like, come on, Maybe we can't have that.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, I think it was passing ended up. You know, they end up getting the rock back. But again, fire out.
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Joe Hayden
Firefighters come out there.
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James Debo Harrison
Three and a three and out. Like, just going back and forth now. Houston, get out there. New England do it. Three and out. I think Pats get the ball left with like, 36 seconds.
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Joe Hayden
And he's trying to score more points.
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James Debo Harrison
Dude, Mayor sack fumbled again.
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Joe Hayden
Will Anderson, he's trying to create some havoc. He's knowing he's seeing what's going on the other side. We gotta score. And he tried to fall on his. Between his legs.
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James Debo Harrison
He tried. He at least tried to fall on that one.
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Joe Hayden
Get the rock.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, man. They end up going for it. 4th and 11. Hail Mary. Interception. Half. Yeah. Half in 20.
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Joe Hayden
I'm looking like the half. So I'm like, this. Houston's defense, Y' all deserve to win. Y' all deserve it. Y' all are fighting for your life. You gave up a couple of plays. But then at the same time, the Patriots, when they do make plays on their defense, it's man time. Like, it's tight catches. It's in the window. Like, it's. They're. They're not just giving it to them now. Patriots are going to get what they're with, what they got.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Houston starts. Starts the third quarter, second and eight. I think CJ hit Hutchinson for, like, 23. And then it was again. He hits Hutchinson. I think it was, like, for five, second and six. I think it was Higgins, right. Higgins for eight. First down, right there. I think Chubb ends up going for, like, seven and two on first and second down. Put him to a third and one. Then Stover comes in, they do the Tufts push, gives him a first down and 10. I think they had, like, the 15 or something like that. First down marks, he goes for eight. Next play, they stuffing for nothing. It's third and two. It's incomplete. I think that was the one where he needed to put the ball at the outside again bro. Yeah, like if he had just placed it like that, that could have been a first down. Instead they settle for the field goal. What is it, 13 to 21 now?
- [19:37]
Joe Hayden
Yes. At least they came out the second half fighting.
- [19:40]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, get the ball back. Third down.
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James Debo Harrison
Boys. May is sack. Fumbled again.
- [23:30]
Joe Hayden
Will Anderson Jr. Yes, he's. He's crazy.
- [23:37]
James Debo Harrison
They get the ball back at what, The New England 30 or something like that? Houston, get back out there. CJ is sacked on first down. Then he makes a nice pass. Yes. Placement, all that Higgins right there. I think it was, what, for 12 or something like that? They got to a third and six. He scrambled for the first down. That was 10 right there. And then second down, my dude Marks adds more problems to it. And he fumbles the Rock.
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Joe Hayden
Give me that. They strip that joint.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes.
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Joe Hayden
Make their ball searching.
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James Debo Harrison
They lost all night. Like both sides. Really, to be honest with you, like, like all night, both defense, they recovered.
- [24:26]
Joe Hayden
Out of control, bro.
- [24:28]
James Debo Harrison
They recovered again. Houston's defense, they come out there, they put out a fire. Three and out.
- [24:35]
Joe Hayden
Hoses all over the place, man.
- [24:38]
James Debo Harrison
Quit. It's 50, it's, it's 50 alarm fires. We got, we got, we got 50 stations out here. Them boys out there, they, they putting, they putting all kind of fires out, bro.
- [24:46]
Joe Hayden
Easy work though. It was like, I don't know, Houston.
- [24:50]
James Debo Harrison
Get the Rock back. I think the third and seven, they ended up getting the PI, which pushed them to what, like the 35, 30, 40 or something like that in New England. And then first down. He dropped that.
- [25:04]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [25:06]
James Debo Harrison
Again, like, they not help. They not help me. He's not helping himself then when he ain't helping himself, Helping them, they ain't helping him. Come on. He gets sacked on the second down. It's what, third and 13. Now they only pick up five, and they have to settle for another field goal. If they got touchdowns instead of field goals, it would have been a lot closer than what it was. Brother.
- [25:26]
Joe Hayden
Brother. If they wouldn't. Yes. They would have been out there looking crazy, throwing the ball to the other team and catching the ones that hit him in the chest.
- [25:34]
James Debo Harrison
Yes.
- [25:34]
Joe Hayden
It had been, you know what I'm saying? A whole lot simpler. They was killing themselves, bro.
- [25:39]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Pass, get the ball back. First play, may hit what is a hopper for 14. Then he's sacked. Though Stevenson, I think, only got like two. On the next play, they had third and long, and they get the defensive PI. Putting the ball at the Houston 38.
- [25:56]
Joe Hayden
This is when I is. This is when I knew it was game time. These dudes are on man time because Stingley is all pro. Stingley is that deal. So if you want to throw it at him, go ahead, try your luck. And then they didn't throw it at him the whole game. But then when they really want to go get the money, they threw it at him, got the PI, you know what I'm saying? And then we can keep going on to this drive where it gets to the nitty gritty and booty.
- [26:21]
James Debo Harrison
3Rd and 4th flare all probe for the marbles. One hand.
- [26:27]
Joe Hayden
One hand. And everybody drops wet rain and all that. It's rain, snow and sleet. And you're getting sticky fingers now in the end zone. Just threw the joint out.
- [26:35]
James Debo Harrison
I'm about to take his gloves for some glue spray or something.
- [26:37]
Joe Hayden
Something gotta be on them things.
- [26:38]
James Debo Harrison
Something gotta be on them things, Bo.
- [26:40]
Joe Hayden
Man, them dudes couldn't catch nothing. This man out there spiderwebbed it for the game winner.
- [26:44]
James Debo Harrison
So 32 touchdown. It's 28 to what, 16 by then?
- [26:50]
Joe Hayden
Yes, bro.
- [26:51]
James Debo Harrison
And Houston, they get forced to three and out. But the killer came when the Pats got the ball back. They got the ball back with like almost 13 minutes left in the fourth.
- [27:01]
Joe Hayden
And they started leaning on them.
- [27:04]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, bro, they ain't score. Houston stopped them from scoring, but I think they left up almost five, six minutes or something like that. By time Houston got the ball back, it was only like 4 or 5, 45 left.
- [27:18]
Joe Hayden
Yep.
- [27:19]
James Debo Harrison
And they punted the rock on 4th and 18. You. You understand why they did that.
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- [27:24]
James Debo Harrison
Would you have did that? I think I know why they did it. We. We.
- [27:28]
Joe Hayden
They thought they did. They thought the defense had a better chance of getting the ball than the offense.
- [27:32]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah.
- [27:33]
Joe Hayden
And I was gonna get a turnover. They was gonna create something. If they run the ball, we gonna strip it. If they pass the ball, we gonna pick it up. It was just. I believe in our defense and we're going to get the field position. Hopefully we can get something down there. So. Yeah, because I mean. Oh, they weren't doing you no favors. So you like doing. Let's, let's go out with what we know. I know our defense at least going to try to, you know what I'm saying, stand on business. Yeah.
- [27:56]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Basically after that game's over with, by the time they get the rock back, it's a minute or two, whatever it is, game over, brother.
- [28:05]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, final play. I could say great play by Splaine, but he jumped a little early for it. He put his hands right through. Great defensive play, but game was over.
- [28:12]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, game's over. Yeah, you just, I mean you can't, you can't turn the ball over that much and expect, expect to win the game. That's just what. Now look now New England, now they going on. But they was, they was, they was. They was a little sloppy too, now.
- [28:31]
Joe Hayden
Oh no. Yes, yes, yes. That's what I'm saying. I like. Because they're not unbeatable, you know what I'm saying? Like they show there's kinks all in the armor. Like we didn't shoot ourselves in the foot so many times, brother. They turned the ball over five times and the only points they got off the turnover was the pick six. All the other four turnovers, they didn't get a field goal or touchdown. Like zero points off turnovers. The only reason they got one, cause he ran the joint back from the interception. So for me, I'm looking at it like New England. I like Drake May made less mistakes. He still fumbled the ball. He still was getting stripped. Sack. Houston's defense was going bananas. But how when they needed to make plays with Diggs, you know what I'm saying? Making those plays, we caught those touchdowns booty one on one versus Stingley. Like when plays needed to be made, the Patriots made those plays. Like they didn't overly go crazy. But when things need to be made, when touchdowns need to be scored, when first downs need to be had, when drives need to be sustained, they can do that, you know what I'm saying? Knowing at the same time, the Patriots defense was creating turnovers. They were kind of leaning on their deep. When I was watching the game, I thought I was like, Houston's playing so good, they can almost take a knee three plays in a row and then punt it. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's. Let's see if the Houston's gonna mess it up. You know what I'm saying? Our defense is playing well.
- [29:52]
James Debo Harrison
I might have thought about that after they got up. I would have been like, yeah, bro, we just don't.
- [29:58]
Joe Hayden
Cause every time he's backing up Drake May, you will Anderson's gon strip sack you. You know what I'm saying? Somebody might get a pick and try to run it back. So Houston's defense was unbelievable. But the Patriots offense made plays when they had to. Drake May wasn't just turning the ball over all the time. I mean, he did. There still was kinks in the armor, but when they needed to make those plays. Diggs. I go with that. Diggs. Bang, bang, eight catch. And then I go with that. Stingley versus Booty. One on one, fade ball for the marbles. When he one handed it, I'm like, those. That. Those two 14. Those 14 points were legitimate on that defense. That was like, okay, yeah, y' all came to play. I didn't see Houston wasn't able to make those plays.
- [30:39]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, man. CJ, they're saying his passer rating was a 28. They said his passer rating, if he had just spiked the ball every play would have been a 39.6. That ain't good, man.
- [30:51]
Joe Hayden
That's. That's actually crazy. How do you.
- [30:53]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, matter of fact, halftime. Would you upset him?
- [30:59]
Joe Hayden
No, I. I wouldn't have sat him. I wouldn't have said.
- [31:01]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have said him either. I wouldn't have said it.
- [31:04]
Joe Hayden
No, that's my. I would have just tried. I didn't give him all the. I'm like, cj, what's up, bro? Like, we, you know, we believe in this. I would have gave him all the confidence I possibly could. The complete opposite of sending him. Because now he already is seeing a little bit of ghost. He already is a little flustered. You seen, like when he threw them, he's like grabbing his own head. I'm like, no, no, brother, this is not the time. We need you. So, like, definitely, I would have not sat him. I just would have tried to give him as much positive motivation as possible. Cause we in it now, brother. Like I'm in it.
- [31:33]
James Debo Harrison
We, we're here.
- [31:34]
Joe Hayden
You know what I'm saying? So tighten up, baby.
- [31:36]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I can't. I can't sit him down. I can't. I especially like in that situation. I done put all this pressure. I'm putting all this pressure on, on, on, on the backup like, yo, come in here and put your cape on like. Yeah.
- [31:49]
Joe Hayden
Nah, he's over there freezing. The backup is gonna come in that joint looking good.
- [31:53]
James Debo Harrison
Yes. He been sitting over there the whole night in the col.
- [31:56]
Joe Hayden
He's gonna look spook me. No, not me.
- [32:00]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can't do that one, man.
- [32:03]
Joe Hayden
Sir.
- [32:04]
James Debo Harrison
Beat the Bears. Overtime, bro. That game. That again. Listen, it shouldn't even been an overtime game. You. We'll get into it anyway, man. Bears get out there. We just hit the quick little. That'll work. What time is it? Yeah, but actually the first play where the Bears got out there, where Williams did that little, the little, the little boot play action for that 34. Yeah. I thought it was about to get something, man. They ended up holding them down. I think they got to like a 4th and 2 right there at the LA21. Would you have kicked the field goal there or would you have went for it?
- [32:42]
Joe Hayden
I'd have kicked the field goal.
- [32:43]
James Debo Harrison
I ain't gonna lie. I'd have kicked the field goal too, bro. I gotta get the points. I gotta get the points.
- [32:48]
Joe Hayden
It's the playoffs that they're so hard to get.
- [32:51]
James Debo Harrison
I got yes.
- [32:52]
Joe Hayden
It's just so hard to get. I'm like, then I leave with none. But I can respect the person that's going for.
- [32:57]
James Debo Harrison
Yes.
- [32:58]
Joe Hayden
For me. I'm like, I got to be more careful right now.
- [33:00]
James Debo Harrison
You a genius if it don't, huh?
- [33:02]
Joe Hayden
You were you looking.
- [33:04]
James Debo Harrison
Caleb throws the ball high. It's picked off. It don't really matter. You know they was gonna give it up on downs if it was incomplete anyway. Actually, the pick actually made it. Have to start off further back, you know what I'm saying? But then LA goes out there. There was a 14 plays, 85 yards for a touchdown. I think they used up almost 7 minutes o'.
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- [33:26]
James Debo Harrison
Second down in longs were were Stafford's money. Stafford hit Puka first, second and ten. The next second and ten I think was Stafford to Whittington for 15, followed by a nice little six yard run by Williams. They got to a third and three. Puka picked that up for five. The next third and five. I think it was Williams for six in the first down, then second and goal. Williams finished it off with a four yard touchdown run. Seven. Oh.
- [33:58]
Joe Hayden
They made that look a little too easy.
- [34:00]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, they made it look easy. It was about to be one of them games where I'm like, oh, man, come on. Come on, man.
- [34:05]
Joe Hayden
Come on, Chicago. I know y' all not going like that.
- [34:08]
James Debo Harrison
Bears get out there. They said, all right, we gotta answer. Is it 12 plays, 80 yards? We go use up almost six and a half. They said second alone. We go let go. Oh, Caleb hit burden for 11. Then we go on that third one and we go get two. We go get two with my man. That's it. Second to 10. We do second and long too. Caleb said, eat old boy for nine. Swift would pick up 13 on the next one. Third down, then Loveland.
- [34:39]
Joe Hayden
That man love them super too.
- [34:42]
James Debo Harrison
23 straight to the LA 24. What's your boy, Megan? I Manangai, manangai. Manangai manangai. Yeah. That boy go for 15 to the LA9.
- [34:55]
Joe Hayden
Yes, sir. Running people. Smack over, smack over.
- [34:58]
James Debo Harrison
Get out the way or get under this. Get out the way or get stepped on.
- [35:02]
Joe Hayden
And them boys keep doing LeBron too.
- [35:07]
James Debo Harrison
They end up going for it on fourth and three.
- [35:10]
Joe Hayden
Yes, again.
- [35:13]
James Debo Harrison
Give me the points.
- [35:14]
Joe Hayden
Look, give me the points. But man, but you made it.
- [35:21]
James Debo Harrison
Touchdown.
- [35:22]
Joe Hayden
After they scored. After they scored. Now I'm a little bit more Now I'm a little bit more ready to go for it Now I'm a little more ready to go for it once I'm done. After I saw them drive it down, I know we need seven.
- [35:32]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, seven. Seven. It'd be a bunch of back and forth action then until I think the Bears got the ball with like 250 left in the first. At the end of the first half. Started at the 39. Caleb hit. What is it? Odoons for 27 for 27 to the LA 35. They would then stall out. 48 yard field goal would put them up 10 to 7. Yes, but it was a whole minute 10 seconds left. LA gets the rock starting at their own 20 immediately. Puka for 7, then Higby for twink at 7.
- [36:15]
Joe Hayden
Boy, that tight end, that thing, that was a good ad catch.
- [36:19]
James Debo Harrison
Second and six, Williams goes for 14 and on top with that unnecessary roughness again. But they would still out.
- [36:29]
Joe Hayden
They kept on trying to go to the end zone.
- [36:31]
James Debo Harrison
Yep, they settled for a 32 yard field goal. But it's 1010 tied up at halftime, boys. Get back out There in the third quarter. Just go back and forth the whole third quarter. When it comes down to it, don't know real scoring start. Well, don't know scoring at all happened until the Rams get the ball in the fourth quarter with like 14, 50 or something like that left in in the game. They own nine, nine, 14 plays, brother. 91 yards. Stop playing immediately. They hand Rocket Williams, he go four and seven. They get to a second and long. I told you Stafford was doing them on second and long. Parkinson 35, 35. They get to a third and six. It's Stafford, the puka for 13. Second and 10. Second and long, second and long. Adams, he get the Adam for 12. They go for it on the fourth and one at the seven with a puka around the corner for a hot two. I ain't see that one coming. I ain't gonna lie. He don't get that many handoffs like that. They ended up giving him a first down. First down. Williams runs it in 5 yards, 17 to 10. Boom. Money, money, money. But the Bears get it back on their final possession of regulation, and they start at day 50 because of a trash punt. Trash punt. Second and 10. Caleb hits leveling for 18. The very next play, Swift, he runs on him for about 12. They get to the fourth down, the fourth and four at the 14.
- [38:16]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [38:16]
James Debo Harrison
This play should have never happened for a touchdown. What is your DB doing? What is your DB doing back there.
- [38:22]
Joe Hayden
Bro, my man is putting the body on the body. And I'm not going to lie to you. That tight end is way bigger than him. So it's not. It's not like a. And the Titan did a good job. It wasn't a. It wasn't a push off, but he didn't.
- [38:35]
James Debo Harrison
It wasn't a push off. He just.
- [38:36]
Joe Hayden
He saw the ball and then he. Bro, I'm telling you right now, once the big run, he did a little extension, but it's not a pass interference. It was a great play. No, it was a great pass.
- [38:46]
James Debo Harrison
It was not even close to it.
- [38:47]
Joe Hayden
No, not even. I'm saying not even close. I'm saying it was a great play by the tight end because he sees the ball, and my man is known to keep. You got to be in between him and the ball. You know what I'm saying? So he's going to be in front of him. So once he has that and he sees the ball coming, he's able to extend, push him off a little bit, and then go get the ball. The DB was just hella small. Do you see, he's hoping for the push off because I'm like, it looked.
- [39:09]
James Debo Harrison
Like he misjudged the ball as soon as it left his hand and he stepped up, and when he stepped up and saw that it was gonna go further than what he thought, he couldn't get back.
- [39:19]
Joe Hayden
He definitely couldn't get back. He got. He got. He got a little push. It was not a good move. It was not a good move.
- [39:26]
James Debo Harrison
Yo, I'm. I'm gonna be so far up under you, boy.
- [39:30]
Joe Hayden
You gotta stay. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He needs to get the P out.
- [39:32]
James Debo Harrison
Because, listen, I'm gonna be. I'm be on you tighter than a pair of Fruit of the Loom, bro.
- [39:37]
Joe Hayden
Yes. I'm trying to tell you. I feel you. I feel you. That's it.
- [39:40]
James Debo Harrison
No, not Boxer Breeze. We talking tidy whities. I'm beyond you.
- [39:44]
Joe Hayden
That's a big ass tight end, brother. That's a big ass dude. I've been in that situation before, and it don't feel like you getting pushed, but you getting pushed.
- [39:54]
James Debo Harrison
Ain't no push, though. It was.
- [39:55]
Joe Hayden
No, no, ain't no push. Ain't no push. And that's what I'm saying. It's not a flag at all. That. That was beautiful. Beautiful. But I'm saying, as me being a db, you feel like you're getting pushed. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, hey, nobody tell me I not getting pushed.
- [40:11]
James Debo Harrison
You said. You said, it don't matter what happen. You feel like you getting pushed, it.
- [40:14]
Joe Hayden
Feel like you getting pushed.
- [40:16]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah.
- [40:16]
Joe Hayden
I don't care what nobody say, my man. If you ask him, he got pushed. That's a fact.
- [40:21]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, no. Hey. It was like, yo, you ain't see that? No. You ain't see that? Look. You saw my man.
- [40:26]
Joe Hayden
You seen Lake. Everybody was running over there.
- [40:27]
James Debo Harrison
I'm like, looking and I'm like, maybe he did get pushed because he was so far away. I'm like, why they show the play from the end zone? That's what I'm. Maybe he did. I ain't see it.
- [40:36]
Joe Hayden
Do you see how swole number 85 is, the tight end for the Bears? He pushed my man, but it was so clean that it's not a push. That's what I'm saying. When they say that's the PI, I'm like, no, you blatantly. Two hand extended. He pushed us because he swole with his arms, with his elbows or whatever.
- [40:53]
James Debo Harrison
Just got some room.
- [40:55]
Joe Hayden
He just gave himself some room. Yeah. I feel pushed. You know what I'm saying?
- [40:59]
James Debo Harrison
Okay, okay.
- [40:59]
Joe Hayden
Spread out on me, nigga.
- [41:01]
James Debo Harrison
You pushed me, man. We got it going overtime now, man. I think it was LA that ended up having to. Well, I say having to take the ball first now, because that's what you do. You give them the ball.
- [41:12]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, for sure. Cause if they score, man, you could give yourself all four downs to know if I got a score, I gotta score, I gotta score.
- [41:19]
James Debo Harrison
If I gotta get a field goal, I gotta get a feel. I gotta answer down to make sure I get it all done.
- [41:24]
Joe Hayden
Yep.
- [41:25]
James Debo Harrison
And the Bears come out there and say three and out. Get up out of here. None of that. None of that. None of that. Chicago. Get the rock back. First down. Was it what's dude's name? Matt. 12 yards he hit him for. They ended up getting to a second and 13. They picked up nine of it. Then on the third and four, Caleb scrambles head down. I thought he was about to go get put to sleep.
- [41:57]
Joe Hayden
See my bro, look, he. He slowed down and embraced and it hit him in the shoulder pad too. So it wasn't as much. It wasn't as much force because I thought he got hit right on top of his temple, but it was. He slowed down broadcast.
- [42:09]
James Debo Harrison
He took it. He did not drop that chin, dude. That was. Hey, I don't know if he. Maybe he. You got a hit and lift right there. Just fall into it. Yeah, like that. You could end the game right there. You could have end the game right there. He'd have been like. He had been a concussion protocol.
- [42:27]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, he for sure could have been in the tent, but he hit him in the shoulder.
- [42:30]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, they end up getting to. I think it was a fourth and one. Williams picks up three and then it's second innate. He is picked off with curl. What do you think of that play, man? What do you think of the throat itself?
- [42:46]
Joe Hayden
Like, I think that he's thinking that the. He's thinking DJ Moore is going to cross the safety space. Do you know what I'm saying? DJ Moore's thinking he's going to go more pylon, more angle behind him, over top of him, beat him deep. He's thinking he's going to cross the safety space and catch it like. Like a. More of a over, like a. More of a dig instead of a over. So I think right there in that. In that. In that time where Caleb saw it, he's looking at the. D.J. moore's looking at the safety and he's looking at him. He's like all right, I'm about to take it over top of him for the T. And Caleb's looking at him like, no, just cross his face for the dig and he threw it for the dig and he kept on going. So I think.
- [43:22]
James Debo Harrison
But wasn't it a dude? Like, I could have swore I seen a receiver like within like five yards of that. I think he might have just thought it was going to him.
- [43:29]
Joe Hayden
Oh, oh, you think DJ just gave up on it and didn't think.
- [43:32]
James Debo Harrison
I think he gave up on it and thought it wasn't going to him. Like. And like it's another receiver right there that I saw. I can't think of who it was.
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Joe Hayden
He. He's running like a. Like a go ball and he's. DJs coming from the other side. I don't know, I just think that. Well, when he was doing it, it looks like.
- [43:48]
James Debo Harrison
Well, it don't matter, baby.
- [43:50]
Joe Hayden
It don't matter. He picked that thing off.
- [43:52]
James Debo Harrison
And that was the one where LA. Get the rock back. They started their own 22. Second is six. Staffer hits Parkinson for 15. Then the great pass catch confirmation divine. What was that?
- [44:13]
Joe Hayden
Boy? Did you see that? That was a dot. And that was a.
- [44:19]
James Debo Harrison
All that. All that I was talking about. They can't play in the code. Oh, they just. They just slapped me in the face.
- [44:25]
Joe Hayden
That looked like they played that. Look like it was warm outside. Hey, that in the dome.
- [44:29]
James Debo Harrison
The catch with it too, though. You know how cold it was?
- [44:31]
Joe Hayden
Yes, yes.
- [44:32]
James Debo Harrison
Bam.
- [44:33]
Joe Hayden
Fingertips. Boop.
- [44:35]
James Debo Harrison
Like what, in overtime? You've been sitting over there cold for the last three hours.
- [44:40]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, but then this is what I'm trying to say. When this third. When it gets down to the next third. On the third and sixth. Yeah, on the third and sixth.
- [44:51]
James Debo Harrison
Why?
- [44:51]
Joe Hayden
I understand we're going zero. I understand we're trying to disguise. You're leaving Puka.
- [44:57]
James Debo Harrison
We're.
- [44:57]
Joe Hayden
It's third and six and you're 12 yards off Puka. You know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta drop down. You gotta make that a little bit closer.
- [45:07]
James Debo Harrison
Listen, man, that's pooka. What you talking about? 16 to the Chicago 27. They ain't really tripping right now. They trying to get some more, but not really. They get to the four for seven. They bring in nine two. They bring in nine two.
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James Debo Harrison
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Joe Hayden
Goal to send them, to send them home.
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James Debo Harrison
Send them home, keep them home. 2017 LA. It shouldn't even been an overtime, man. No, that, that I. Yeah, why you.
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Joe Hayden
Think it shouldn't have been overtime, man?
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James Debo Harrison
He should never. That bro. He's running back 20 yards.
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Joe Hayden
And he.
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James Debo Harrison
Throw a hell Barry, bro. Yeah, come on.
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Joe Hayden
He did, he did. That was a ball though, bro.
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James Debo Harrison
That was a boy. You know like the turnover, like the biggest, the biggest one is just the one at the end of the game is really what it come down to because the other one, one of the other ones was. What was it? The 4th and 2 and they would have turned the ball over anyway if it was incomplete. Yeah, like that one right there at the end, that just sealed it.
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Joe Hayden
I think like you said, the great teams, great games is going to be the little stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like 4th on 4th down there, instead of kicking the three then you don't go to overtime. Like you said, you're up. You never know the situation, so. And then the picks like Caleb on that last. When we do have the chance on that last drive, that miscommunication, you don't know if it's over or under two people in the same area. You just can't. You're driving it down. You just need a field goal to win the game. So when you're playing two good teams playing versus each other, things gonna happen here and there. So it's all the little stuff that's like going on. It's like every little play could, could have been a defining moment. So I'm looking at it like that fourth and one early on in the game when they ended up going forward, they didn't get any points, they didn't get nothing. And then when they do have that last chance drive to go get it after they got three and out, now you got the rock. All you need is a field goal. We don't have to do nothing crazy. We trying to throw a deep over route. We still got time. We still got.
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James Debo Harrison
No, no, no.
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Joe Hayden
We still have another down. Like if it's not there, do. Let's just live to get a field goal. You know what I'm saying? So I think Chicago played really, really good. The Rams played good. It was two good teams playing. So when the good teams play, it's the little stuff, it's little situations. Devontae Adams caught that joint, dragged that foot. That was a beautiful ball. That's what it comes down to. Like those little, little and the Bears didn't. And you know what I'm saying. So that's how I thought they able to win that.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Easy. The little stuff add up to big stuff. And I think LA done shook the not being able to play in the cold weather. Like you know, facts. That was. I don't know how much. How much colder it could get.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah.
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Joe Hayden
They proved. They proved it.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. For sure. For sure. Now the overtime. Bronco bills 33 to 10. Bro. I just want to go straight to. I just want to go straight to the catch.
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Joe Hayden
Straight to.
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James Debo Harrison
Was other stuff that happened. Yes, we know this. But that catch. What do you think? What would you have called that pick? You would have called it a pick.
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Joe Hayden
Picked off.
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James Debo Harrison
Okay.
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Joe Hayden
Picked off.
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James Debo Harrison
Now why would you have called that a pick?
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Joe Hayden
I would have called that a pick. Because you have to. When he said. When they. His hand was in there also. So you gotta be able to take that and finish it through the ground. So now when they both end up hitting the ground. We don't see what's going on rough.
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James Debo Harrison
But you can. You can see. You can see that when his knee is on the ground. He said he has control of the ball. Now revert back. Hold up. Listen, listen, listen. Go ahead to us. I'm great with the call because it helped us. But exact same thing. Aaron's ball is tipped. He catches the ball. He has control of it. As his knee touches. As his knee touches. Before he's down. Before the dude's down. He rips it out. But his knee is down. Just as. Just as Cook's knee was down. He rips it out. They get the ball. But ours is called down by contact because his knee was down and he still had possession.
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Joe Hayden
When Aaron caught the ball. Did he make more of like a. Like a football movement?
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James Debo Harrison
No.
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Joe Hayden
You see the ball get and then come down. And then he bring his knee down.
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James Debo Harrison
Get ball. Ball comes to him as he's going down. He grips onto the ball. His knee touches. He's gripped to the ball. It's not pulled in. Dude has the ball just like he does. But they're saying that was control. They're saying that was control. And they caught him down by contact. Ball gets pulled out. Literally exactly. Almost the same way. As far as the timing of the knee down and the ball being pulled out. His knee was down. He wasn't on the ground. Cook's knee was down. He wasn't on the ground. But then they saying he got to control it through the ground. But you just did the Same thing, same situation. And you said his knee was down. He had. It was the exact same thing. Believe me. I've been looking at these side by side.
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Joe Hayden
You're looking at those. Did you see. Did you see the devonte Adams joint?
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James Debo Harrison
Which one?
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Joe Hayden
The one with devontae. The one that he's. They said that he caught the ball. The one in that game that they just had. Damn. I wish I would have showed it to you, but.
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James Debo Harrison
So long.
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Joe Hayden
Let me just say. Do you think so? So I think.
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James Debo Harrison
I'm just saying, if you're calling that one a down by contact, you gotta call that one a down by contact.
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Joe Hayden
This is what I'm saying. It's a lot of. It's so much gray in the catches. It's so much great. It's the catch to a football move to, like, then. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Because when I'm telling you, some people I know, they watched devontae Adams catch, and it's like he caught it. You know what I'm saying? He did, like one step, knee went down, and then they roughed it. It was the same thing. They picked it off, too. And they called that a completion by devontae. It's just too much gray. Did he catch it?
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James Debo Harrison
It.
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Joe Hayden
If your knees down, it's a catch. The football move. And all of that is kind of. I think that's what's making it.
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James Debo Harrison
Oh, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. Yeah. Same thing.
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Joe Hayden
Same thing.
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James Debo Harrison
This. This. The only one they didn't call that was down.
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Joe Hayden
There's only. I know that's what. Yeah, okay.
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James Debo Harrison
If.
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Joe Hayden
The only reason why I was saying that, because when. When cooks this catch, it looked like his hand was also in there. So I'm. I'm hearing what you're saying, that he had control of it, but I'm like, the DB's hand was still, so I don't know how much full control it could be.
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James Debo Harrison
That's what it was on the other one with. With us. That's why I was worried that they was gonna say he had control because dude's hand was there with his hand, but they were saying he had control. It wasn't moving. They saying wasn't moving until his knee hit the ground. After his knee hit the ground, he started going down. That's when dude was able to get the full and come out. You can't officiate. And now three. I forgot about that. Adams now three different situations. You officiated two the same way and then one totally different.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, I'm. I think they. They need to simplify it. They need to find a way to obviously simplify Debo, like you said, too, because there's. There's so many different ways where they could try to say, if he has control and his knees on the ground. We're going to. Because do we want to start giving it to the offense? Because I'm like, look, if it's not down, you got to. If it's a catch, catch.
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James Debo Harrison
Okay, so.
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Joe Hayden
And be able to get up with it. Do you know what I'm saying?
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James Debo Harrison
I understand what you're saying. So if you played offense, you would want it to be a catch?
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Joe Hayden
Hell, yes. Yes.
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James Debo Harrison
But I like. Sean McDermott just got fired this morning, bro.
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Joe Hayden
See, that's wild. That's wild, bro.
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James Debo Harrison
Possibly over this. Think about it. If he's still coaching, they win this game.
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Joe Hayden
If they won this game, he's for sure still got his job.
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James Debo Harrison
Like they just fired, bro.
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Joe Hayden
You know what they say. So ties go to the receiver. You know what it just said? Ties go to the receiver. I didn't go to. But what I'm going to say is this tie. Ties go to the receipt.
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James Debo Harrison
That wasn't a tie. You show what you. What you were. What the precedent was. You did it with. With. With us. But.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, no, it's.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, you did it with. With. With Adams.
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Joe Hayden
The Adams one. The Adams one is one. I'm saying, too. I'm looking at that one. And when I'm saying if they called the Cooks one to pick, the Adams one is a pick. Do you know what I'm saying? So, like.
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James Debo Harrison
No, no, I'm got them two right there. That you're saying is more similar to you. Cool.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, yes.
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James Debo Harrison
You got two different outcomes.
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Joe Hayden
I know it's foggy. They need to do something where it's not this foggy.
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James Debo Harrison
I'm with you, man. This man got fired on this. 100%. He fired on this.
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Joe Hayden
He for show. Got fired on.
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James Debo Harrison
Fired on this, bro. He got fired on this. What is he. What? What? What? He got made the playoffs the last, what, six, seven years, something like that? I don't know. Like, he got fired on this. They said, you know what? We don't care that you done made the playoffs. You supposed to get us one of them back here. Okay? You supposed to get one of them. Nine, two right there. Back there, okay? Nine deuce. You feel me? You supposed to give me one of them back there, and you ain't got Me one of them? Yep. You done want me a playoff game every year for the last six, seven years, whatever it may be. But that ain't good enough. You 500 in the playoffs, but that ain't good enough.
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Joe Hayden
You know what he said?
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, you 66, 67% winning. That ain't good enough. We want a championship.
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Joe Hayden
And you know what he said?
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James Debo Harrison
Bye. Bye.
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Joe Hayden
They know what he said, bro. You're not playing against. You don't. You didn't. It's not Lamar. That you had to play. You don't have that one. It's not. Versus Patrick Mahomes now. You went against the Broncos and lost again.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, you got. Hey, you got. You got to get out of here. We don't care about you. None of that other stuff you're talking about.
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Joe Hayden
Your coat and leave.
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James Debo Harrison
We get into a new stadium. We ain't trying to take this with us.
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Joe Hayden
That's crazy.
- [59:22]
James Debo Harrison
That dude.
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Joe Hayden
That's great. Who.
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James Debo Harrison
I think he's a good coach too, but who are you going to get to come in there and do Bruh. This dude went from 2007. He had a. He had a losing season in 2018. He was 9 to 7, 6 and 10, 10 and 6, 13, 3 11. 6 12. 3 11, 6 12, 4 12, 5 this year, 1340 previous year. Yeah, he won. He won a playoff game. Sorry, he didn't win a playoff game in 19. He went there and got kicked out the first year. But from 20 to now, he has at least won one playoff game each year. Two in 24 and two and 20. This man has had the last one, two, three, four, five, six, six years. And he has won 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 games. He's won eight playoff games in six years. And they fired him.
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Joe Hayden
They got him out of there, Debo. I think eight and eight, dude. Dog eat dog world.
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James Debo Harrison
That is wild, right?
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Joe Hayden
They gonna have to see what it is on the other side. Cause I mean, hey, man, I hope.
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James Debo Harrison
I hope he make a pick. Pick like he. I don't know. But if he went and fired that man and then you turn around the next year and you don't even make the playoffs, that's gonna be bad. You don't even get a win. You gotta at least get a win to even b.
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Joe Hayden
To even make sense.
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James Debo Harrison
Right? Even for it. To even be okay with what you did. Because he has got you at least one in the last six years. Two, four, six, eight in the last six. Like you ain't gonna get him that. And how you. How you how you. How you lost it? That did. Listen, they. They said. Listen, we ain't playing no games. We don't care about none of that.
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Joe Hayden
We don't care about none of that.
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James Debo Harrison
The goal here, you got Josh Allen. That's it.
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Joe Hayden
We need to win ships.
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James Debo Harrison
That's it. That is it. We don't need nothing else outside of a ring. And if you ain't gonna get us that. Bye. Don't care what you want. No, we don't.
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Joe Hayden
Man. Brody, how about you feel about my man Bo Nick's ankle, though? Hey, that was crazy.
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James Debo Harrison
Listen, listen.
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Joe Hayden
It just happened after.
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James Debo Harrison
Like, I'm like, hey, they said the second to last player. Whatever it was the second last play. Hey, bro, I thought they was lying. I don't know, man. It's gonna be gonna be some trouble for them boys over there, man.
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Joe Hayden
It's gonna be backup, buddy.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah. You gotta look at it. You got Knicks out. Out. Now, defense, the boy just gave up like, 183 Russian, almost 300 passing. And no Knicks. Nope. I don't know. Ain't like New England don't run the ball well, man, you got Drake May.
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Joe Hayden
New England out there looking.
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James Debo Harrison
Still got the two front runners out here still playing in the playoff. He's one of them.
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Joe Hayden
And hate to say it, bro, it's.
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James Debo Harrison
Gonna be a hard road to hold.
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Joe Hayden
It look like it might be New England, dude.
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James Debo Harrison
Championship Sunday, buddy. Patriots. Broncos, you know, Seattle. With no. With no Knicks. I don't know. No bow, Nick. I don't know.
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Joe Hayden
You already know. I'm going with that. No bow.
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James Debo Harrison
No bow, Joe for show. I gotta go Patriots.
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Joe Hayden
Obviously.
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James Debo Harrison
I got a Patriot helmet around here somewhere.
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Podcast Announcer
Hold on.
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James Debo Harrison
Hold on.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah. See, nobody but you ain't like. It's all good.
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James Debo Harrison
I ain't like you, though.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. I ain't gonna pull out my Patriots helmet and be like, yeah, let's go Patriots.
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Joe Hayden
No, you just gonna. Okay, not yet.
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James Debo Harrison
Not yet.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah. Super bowl week. You gonna be acting.
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James Debo Harrison
Super bowl week. Hey, good boy. Go boy. De.
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Joe Hayden
I don't blame you. I don't blame you.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, man. Welcome, Joe. You know what time it is?
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Joe Hayden
Yes, sir.
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James Debo Harrison
Time for play of F. Presented by Prize. All right, Joe. We let the staff do this one right, baby. Okay, they made our picks for the national championship game, and we have to decide if we're going to rock with this. If we go play this, man. If we go fade this. So here are their picks.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, matter of fact.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah.
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James Debo Harrison
Hold up. We went four for four.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, you hey, that Debo.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey.
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Joe Hayden
And I man, CJ hit us with 11 yards. We did 10.5.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, hey, hey. Four for four. I knew what I was doing, brother. I knew CJ was gonna get left.
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Joe Hayden
You cooked. You cooked.
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James Debo Harrison
Knew it.
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Joe Hayden
You cooked. You can't.
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James Debo Harrison
You can't. You can't do 10. Five. Gotta be 11.
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Joe Hayden
Gotta be 11. Okay, okay.
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James Debo Harrison
So now part of we go get pissed.
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Joe Hayden
You did that.
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James Debo Harrison
I told you Alan was gonna run for that thing. 66. Hey, hey, hey.
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Joe Hayden
Shout out, Debo.
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James Debo Harrison
I ain't gonna lie. I ain't think Stafford was gonna get that close, man.
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Joe Hayden
Look, he started throwing it. He started throwing it in the elements like he was in the dome. Still, he didn't.
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James Debo Harrison
No question. No question. Let's get. Let's get to this national championship game. Okay. We got back for less under two. What is it? Becker.
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Joe Hayden
The team likes. Yep. Charlie Becker.
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James Debo Harrison
We got Becker. We got. They got him for more. 59. They also got. Yeah, was that Charrette? They got him for.
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Joe Hayden
For rushing or receiving. Td. He's going to score. They got him getting into the zone and they got the quarterback throwing, rushing and receiving. Or rushing or. It's a rush, it's a plus. So it just. If you got to get one of them. One or the other.
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James Debo Harrison
You sure? All right.
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Joe Hayden
I think so. Yep. One or the other. And then Fernando and then the quarterback. He gonna throw. He gotta throw. Yeah, he gonna throw one. He throwing one to Charlie and he throwing one to Elijah.
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James Debo Harrison
Doing more than Charlie. Yeah.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, yes. And they got Indiana winning because I know they put what a game at under in Miami.
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James Debo Harrison
Ain't from Miami. Who the quarterback?
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Joe Hayden
I think he might.
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James Debo Harrison
Mendoza.
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Joe Hayden
Mandoza. Oh, no, I don't think Mendoza can't be from Miami.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes, Mandoza.
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James Debo Harrison
He at home, bro. He might. I'm with it. He might throw.
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Joe Hayden
No, no, no. And whoever we got, they got Indiana winning. Winning Indiana. They got Indiana winning the joint. And I do too.
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James Debo Harrison
I'm with you, Joe. I'm gonna play this thing, baby. I'm gonna play this thing.
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Joe Hayden
I'm playing that thing too.
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James Debo Harrison
I'm gonna go play this thing all day, every day. So y' all make sure y' all download the app today and use the code. Debo Joe.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, Sir.
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James Debo Harrison
To get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Debo Joe.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, sir.
- [67:06]
James Debo Harrison
Prize picks.
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Joe Hayden
Come on, let's go. You don't want the people some money last week, man. That's what I'm talking about.
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James Debo Harrison
You know what I'm saying I do what I could do when I could do it, man. You know, it looked like we got some super chat, man. That's a super chat. What we got here? Rico's under. Rico underscore donated $2. Debo for Steelers head coach and Joe for D.C. that sound good?
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Joe Hayden
That sound good.
- [67:38]
James Debo Harrison
I like good. It sounds joke.
- [67:42]
Joe Hayden
You knew. You know what they know when they say that we're going to give great teaching. They're going to get coached up. That's for sure.
- [67:49]
James Debo Harrison
Yes.
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Joe Hayden
Set an edge. Whoop a man. Corners will be tackling.
- [67:56]
James Debo Harrison
Corners will be tackling. Linebackers will be feeling.
- [68:00]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
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James Debo Harrison
D line will be standing strong, and they will be.
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Joe Hayden
D line will be able to plant their knee into the ground.
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James Debo Harrison
Drop it.
- [68:06]
Joe Hayden
I learned that from my man. What's. My man. My man Ham.
- [68:09]
James Debo Harrison
Big ham.
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Joe Hayden
Big Ham say he gotta drop the knee.
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- [68:13]
James Debo Harrison
Casey Hampton for y' all that don't know hamstring. You gotta drop that knee. Case to hold two of them.
- [68:19]
Joe Hayden
Just grab two people do like that.
- [68:22]
James Debo Harrison
Hamp be sitting there holding two of them, like right there, sitting on the line of scrimmage with him, talking about. And then as soon as they get four yards, he would turn around and be like, what the hell y' all doing back there? They not got four yards. Come on.
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Joe Hayden
And I'm up here holding two. That's what I'm telling you.
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James Debo Harrison
Oh, man. Dude, Hamp is funny, bro. Hemp is so funny, bro. Look here, man. I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like and subscribe and download the show. We'll be right back here tomorrow.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Checking in, checking out. See y' all tomorrow. Yes, sir.
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