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Deebo & Joe react to Steelers hiring Mike McCarthy!? + Seahawks & Patriots advance to SB LX
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Debo Harrison
Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host dad, James. Sorry, James. Debo Harrison. The braces be killing me out here. Joe Hayden.
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Joe Hayden
Yes, sir.
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Debo Harrison
Make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever you get your podcast.
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Joe Hayden
Joe, what's up, brother?
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Debo Harrison
How you doing today, baby?
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Joe Hayden
Man, I'm doing great today, Deebo. Honestly, though, we got snowed in. That snowstorm happened. It was a little bit less snow than I expected, but that's why I'm in a different spot. I got snowed in that at the in laws crib, so I'm down.
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Debo Harrison
Oh, you got snowed in.
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Joe Hayden
I'm snowed in right now.
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Debo Harrison
Y' all don't know nothing about how to deal with snow around that way, man.
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Joe Hayden
Listen, bro, I embrace the snow.
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Debo Harrison
I had to snow blow my driveway both times, bro, just to keep up, bro. I think we got about 12 inches, bro. Like, I'd get done as soon as I got done. I'll be back out there two hours later. As soon as I got done, it'd be already an inch.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah.
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Debo Harrison
By the time I pull it back.
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Joe Hayden
In, you was doing a good job, man. I. I went and tried to get the electrical joint, so I was watching my neighbor across the street.
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Debo Harrison
Oh, I went and got full.
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Joe Hayden
I had full gas. Two hours. Full gas.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah. Full grass, man. I went hit. I went hit my. My. My neighbor next door on the left and the right. You know what I'm saying?
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Joe Hayden
Good Samaritan, Debo.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had, you know, I had to do that. I had to do the lady on the. On on the right, she. She a little older. Her and her husband, they're a little older. But, you know, I guess that's something that I would. I would want to have done if my mom or. Or dad, if he was still around, was in. I went on ahead and did that. Even though I ain't gonna lie, I'm not too. I'm not too fond of him. But, you know, my neighbor to the left, he good dude, so he good people.
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Joe Hayden
So you got people.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Look here, man, everybody take care of everybody, you know, do on to others as you would have others do on to you, right?
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Joe Hayden
Make it the world just such a better place. Debo that's what I live by.
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Debo Harrison
No question, man. Look here, brother. The steel us done hired. Oh, Mike McCarthy. I guess it's still, what, fourth coach since 1969. Joe. Yeah. How do you feel?
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Joe Hayden
Like they, they hired him before you could get there to do your interview. You ain't even get to do.
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Debo Harrison
That's crazy, right?
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Joe Hayden
That's. That's wild, right?
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Debo Harrison
That's wild.
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Joe Hayden
That's things moving.
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Debo Harrison
What you, how you, how you feel about this hire, Joe?
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Joe Hayden
I got a lot of different emotions about it. So let me preface my comments by first saying I don't think Mike McCarthy's a bad coach. Do you know what I'm saying? But in the particular situation of the Pittsburgh Steelers and what we're looking to do moving forward from Mike Tomlin stepping down and it being a new time, me looking for a new regime, him coming in is just too similar. And he's older. He's 63 years old. I'm thinking that we're trying to get a coach that we're going to have for the next at least 20 years. When we get him, I'm like, okay, he was with a Rod back in Green Bay long time ago. A Rod was four. I'm talking about four mvp, A Rod, not just normal. A Rod with Devonta Adams, you know what I'm saying? With that offense, if he had Jordy Nelson with nice receivers out there, being able to do what he had to do, he still came up with one super bowl in Aaron Rodgers heyday when he was the best version of himself. So now I'm like not trying to knock. If we want to have him come in and do it with a young quarterback and you think he wants to breed him, what he did with Dak Prescott, his offenses have always been pretty good. So I'm not knocking the coaching situation, but if you're the Steelers and I'm wanting to move forward, I'm wanting to come with a younger guy that's coming to bring a whole different vibe. And I'm. Cause the fan base, I feel like they were ready. They were ready for a real turnaround, a real move. But this looks real parallel. It doesn't look like a move where it's like a new reset. It looks like kind of ah, just normal. So. And, and when this comes now, I can't blame Coach T. I can't blame. I don't know Omar. It's like, who did these? Who did the move? You know what I'm saying? So that's why I'm looking at it. Like Deebo, I mean, it looks like the. The Rooney, he must have. He made this pick. It just looks like status quo. He just seems like he just doesn't want to shake the boat too much. When I think right now was the time, it was time to shake the boat and go get you a young head coach and then get you a offensive coordinator, you know what I'm saying? Then make some. Break some real moves. I think this was more parallel than what we needed to do.
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Debo Harrison
How do you feel, Deebot? Surprised.
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Joe Hayden
Okay.
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Debo Harrison
I'm disappointed. Nah, let me. Let me.
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Joe Hayden
You know, you take your time, Debo, because I know you got a lot of feelings.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm not. Put this, bro. I. I don't dislike it, but I also don't like it. So, you know, I guess. I guess I am disappointed. It definitely. I definitely wasn't expecting him to be the next head coach, especially with the last three hirings we done had since, what, 69?
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Joe Hayden
Yes.
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Debo Harrison
So, like, the only thing I could think is it was the safe play. Like you said, he is a good coach. You know, he's proven, you know, but, like, I'm wide. Like, I'm. I'm with you. I'm like, why safe? So I go, I go back and I look at it, bro, and when I look at it, you know, since our last was the two hirings that we had, which was Bill Cower and Mike Tomlin, Mr. Rooney was. Was around heavily involved, and I believe he had a greater understanding, you know, of, you know, what was needed. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about, you know, Mr. Rooney, Dan. Yes. You know, former ambassador. And he had a greater understanding, I believe, of what was needed, because I believe he learned everything that he needed under his dad, the chief, you know what I'm saying? And he soaked that up, and right now, we don't have anyone there that was really greatly involved in those last two hirings. And you add that with the fact that they were definitely caught off guard by Coach. Coach T stepping down, like. And, you know, you heard himself, he was. He was, you know, looking to run it back maybe next year and then through the process. So I think, you know, a little. A little panic set in, and they ended up going with the safe choice. And I think that's part of the reason why we held on to Mike for so long is because it was the safe choice. You know, we know we're going to be in contention for at least, you know, a winning record and a playoff berth. But that's not the standard of the Pittsburgh Steelers, bro. And I feel like that's what it has become right now. And we're so afraid, dude, of that rebuilt word that we're doing anything in our power so that we don't have to look like that or look like we're doing that. Now, again, if you go back to when Cower was hired and you look, we did a rebuild, but they didn't call it a rebuild. So from 98 to 2000, we had consecutive losing seasons. 97 was the last season we had that was a winning season until 2001, okay? And between that, those season, it was an internal rebuild by Bill. And Mr. Rooney saw that. And in 2000, when everybody was calling for Mr. Rooney to get rid of Bill, he said no, because he saw the vision. And in 2001, they ended up going 13 and 3, okay? And that process, from 97, where they had a winning record until their next winning record in 2000, the starting offense only had three players that was on that roster from 97 to 2001, when they had their next one, and then the defense only had two players. So that was an internal rebuild, but they literally say it out loud as a rebuild, okay? And that's what he did. That's what Coach Tomlin. I mean, sorry, that's what Coach Coward did in those years between that 98 to 2000 time frame, okay? Now in that same process, they changed coaches. You look at 1995, Dick LeBeau was the DC in 95 and 96. Then he went to Cincinnati and he was a head coach, okay? Then in 2004, coach LeBeau ended up leaving Cincinnati or was. Got fired, whatever it was. And Bill ended up bringing him back as DC in 2004. Now, in that same process of changing those players, it was coaches in and out, too. And Bill was getting coaches that he felt were going to be better for the team. He was getting players that he thought was going to be better for the team, and he did an internal rebuild. Now, 2004, we went 15:1 and then won the Super Bowl. The next year, 2007 came, they hired coach. They hired. They hired Mike, okay? And he won in 2008, won a championship, and then went again in 2010. Okay? Now, like, that was a rebuild, bro. And I would have, like. I'm like you. I would have liked to seen someone younger that came up. You know what I'm saying? Maybe, you know, this is a situation where I'm. I'm just trying to, like, be positive about, like, Maybe he's coming in as a, you know, four or five year guy, maybe he's hiring a great staff. Maybe the OC or DC is going to be one of those people that could eventually step in, you know, hoping that everything goes well with, with him being, you know, with him being.
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Joe Hayden
I can see what you're saying.
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Debo Harrison
Go ahead.
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Joe Hayden
Because I can see what you're saying about him being like a, a middle, a middleman. Like the coach T firing kind of shocked him, you know what I'm saying? It was just a little too quick, like stop wasn't ready. Just like a little gap in between person where he can come be the head coach and then also while he's here, bring in a great staff. Like being able to get the offense right, being able to get a great defensive coordinator, but in long terms, hopefully like the offensive coordinator that we pick. That's nice. Is going to be able to come and get him out of there, you know what I'm saying? Because I just don't see him as a long term fit.
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Debo Harrison
Oh, I don't. Do you think, do you think that this hiring has something to do with possibly them wanting to try and make sure or have a more likelihood of Aaron coming back? Would you want him back? Would you want him to stay? Would you want him to not come back? How would you feel about that?
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Joe Hayden
I wouldn't want the moving. I wouldn't want the Steelers to have to depend on. I love Aaron Rodgers, a great player, but I'm not thinking that McCarthy and a rod is not 2010, it's not 2012, it's not 10 years ago. If this was 10 years ago, I'd be all in for it, you know what I'm saying? A Rod is just not the same as he was. And McCarthy, if we wanted to bring him in, I hope it's just not for a Rod. I hope it's a way bigger picture of bringing in offense, defense and just the whole way that he's built, you know what I'm saying? If it's just for a Rod, that's going to be a one year thing and I'm hoping that they didn't get the head coach Depending on a one year, 42 year old quarterback that they did things back in the day and were able to get one super bowl when he was a Rod, when he was that man, he was the best player in the NFL, you know what I'm saying? So I would hope that they didn't make that pool just for a Rod, but I don't Want to disrespect Mike McCarthy because he is a good, he's a good coach, a great mind. He's won Super Bowls, his teams don't lose. When he was with Dallas, Dak looked nice, but they still weren't, they still didn't get over the hump. If they did all of that that he did with Pittsburgh, we would still be looking at him like, Mike, Tom and like, oh, you made it all the way there. That's not good enough. We didn't win a ship. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just not seeing that with why they would bring in Mike McCarthy to Pittsburgh after Mike Tomlin just left.
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Debo Harrison
I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. I don't. Like I said, I like Aaron. I think Aaron's a good quarterback. I, I, I've credited him with us having the season that we had without him. We wouldn't have it, but yeah, I just don't want him back. I don't want him back because we need to be able to move on. And it really depends on what will Howard can do if he can actually do it, you know, I, unless there's a reason we haven't seen him that we don't know about because maybe he can't do it or like, and if that's the case, why is he still there? I don't, I don't know. But unless we get to the point to where we can actually get a franchise quarterback, dude, we're going to be in the same position, picking middle of the pack, especially if we bring Aaron back because he has the capabilities to be able to keep, keep us in contention when maybe without, when definitely without him, we wouldn't be, you know what I'm saying? And if the fact was like we wanted a offensive minded coach because McCarthy is that dude, why didn't we just wait? Shula is sitting there right now. Yes, yes, he would have been done today. He is young. We would have had what we wanted, the future. And we could have built or he could have built what he wanted and got what he needed. But dude, we are so afraid of that rebuilt word that we made a snap decision out of fear, bro. That's what I believe, bro.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, I think, and I think when you say out of fear too, what people are realizing when the, when Mr. Rooney said he was surprised by Coach Tomlin stepping off, he wasn't ready to be looking to hire another coach. So the status quo of everybody saying like, oh no, we need to move on from Coach T. Rooney Wasn't there yet. He wasn't trying to move on. Go see, he was still chilling. He wasn't too mad at the way things were going. Like, all right, we're going to be able to figure it out. But, like, I'm loving the ship. I like the. I like where our coach is when you get surprised and now you're ready to go hire something young, new, different. Ah, Mike McCarthy looks like Coach T. Okay. Just comfortable, you know what I'm saying? Like, he didn't. He didn't fire Coach Tomlin and then go hire Mike McCarthy. Coach T stepped off on him. See? Oh, man. Like, I wasn't ready for this. And then it just like a comfortable pick instead of being like, no, oh, no. In my opinion, it's ready. The Steelers fans I know based on what every. Everybody I'm seeing was ready to go get somebody young, ready to, like a new head coach.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, I see the chat. They saying they're the same person and all that, just different. I under. Like, I really understand what y' all saying. I understand your memes, all that stuff. But yeah, okay, let's just say Tomlin and McCarthy are the same guys. Okay. On paper, when you look at it, it's the same guys. The big difference is Mike Thomas season and all the other stuff. McCarthy has what he's. He's been the head coach of what, Green Bay and Dallas, right?
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Joe Hayden
Yep.
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Debo Harrison
Those are two franchises that already had their quarterbacks there, bruh.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah.
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Debo Harrison
Aaron was there 2005 to 2122 with. Hell with Mike. He had been from 2007 until what, 18, 19, whatever it was. Now you go to Dallas. He got, he got back over there. Dak was already back, you know what I'm saying? So, like, he has to build and in 2000, support for the show comes.
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Joe Hayden
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Debo Harrison
Whatever that was 2020 when we lost Bill it was time for Mike to build. It was time actually before that to actually start to look for somebody to replace. Okay. And he had the opportunity to try and rebuild that and, and get it up. And, and he didn't. And, and, and with McCarthy, he hasn't had to rebuild from scratch.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah. So he's, he's like, he, he's right.
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Debo Harrison
So, and you know, yes, he's older. You know, he hasn't had the opportunity to do it, but can he do it? He's older and like, I understand that, but can he still relate to the players? If he can still relate to the players and do everything is necessary to understand and read it and gain the respect of the players and build a staff that is, you know, conducive to getting done what that we need done, then that's great, man. Hiring people that's going to teach and, and lead and guide and make sure they're doing what they need to do. That's, that's, you know, that's not an issue. Nobody said Andy Reid was too old. Nobody said Bill Belichick was too old. So I'm, I'm here to say, like, hey, I understand, I feel the same way, but let's get a man a chance for sure.
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Joe Hayden
And like, let's get a man a chance. I'm not saying he's too old either. 63 isn't. John Harbaugh is 63 years old. They the same age. So it's not like, not like that's like, he's like crazy. But I was just saying if you want to have a coach, I'm just thinking with younger energy, period and a 20 year stint, I'm not thinking he's going to be coaching until he's 83. You know what I'm saying? Like that, that, that might be a stretch.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, I, I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't know. We'll, I mean, we'll, we, we definitely go see.
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Joe Hayden
We gonna see.
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Debo Harrison
To say I'm, I'm surprised. I am definitely surprised. I'm hoping it works out. I'm hoping it's, you know, a thing where it's a short term, you know, it's a step in, you know, it's a, it's a filler, you know, for who may hopefully be the next, you know, coming. But, you know, if he's great, all this stuff goes out the window for sure.
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Joe Hayden
I'm praying for the best. But if you ask me whether I surprised. Yes.
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Debo Harrison
Yeah, I was, I was, I was definitely Definitely a little, little, a lot. Surprised. Yeah, Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I'm looking forward to, you know, actually, actually meeting him and seeing, chopping it up and going from there. But.
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Joe Hayden
I'll let him.
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Debo Harrison
Like I said, I'm not, I don't dislike it. I don't, I don't like. I'm just surprised. It's a, you know, it's a safe, it's a safe pick. You got somebody that's there. You know, that's what it seems like to me right now. Basically we exchanging one for the other. We just got to see what he can do as far as building because he's never had an opportunity to actually build. He came in with, you know, ready made positional franchise quarterbacks and right now we're going to see if he can, if he can get that done.
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Joe Hayden
Yep.
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Debo Harrison
But we got to give him some support and I'm here hoping for the best, wishing for the way that's. Hey, that's our guy now, right?
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Joe Hayden
That's our guy. That's our guy.
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Debo Harrison
That's right.
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Joe Hayden
Hey, listen, I'm a stick.
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Debo Harrison
That's our guy.
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Joe Hayden
Until we're gonna see.
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Debo Harrison
We got to roll with it until, until it don't roll. And hopefully we're able as an organization to see that it either is rolling or isn't rolling and make the appropriate steps necessary when it's necessary.
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Joe Hayden
Yes.
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Debo Harrison
Let's get on over here.
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Joe Hayden
Let's get over to these good football playoff games that we had good football games yesterday.
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Debo Harrison
We had, man. The good one, man. The Patriots, baby, and Bronco 10 7. That's a fight, baby. That's a fight.
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Joe Hayden
It went.
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Debo Harrison
They talk about, man, listen, man, they don't even know what a good game is. They're a boring game.
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Joe Hayden
No, man, I'm gonna tell you that. That, that game at the end, that was wet. That weather got terrible. You like and you know when you say it doesn't look, it doesn't have.
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Debo Harrison
Been in Foxborough, baby. If they had beat the Raiders at the beginning of the year, that would have been a horrible game right there.
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Joe Hayden
Believe that. That's a defense. I love that game. As a db. As a db. That's the easiest game to play in. Just keep your feet. You need to wear seven stud cleats and seven studs. Don't go stack them dudes gotta stack them with the studs. Like them dudes. They always trying to wear them cool little cleats and they was looking at me. OG you still wearing them seven studs? Yes, I'm not gonna.
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Debo Harrison
It's that time of the year. What are you talking about, son?
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Joe Hayden
What are you talking about? Stud only. Only seven studs.
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Debo Harrison
That's probably why they were slipping out there.
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Joe Hayden
Exactly. They had on them cool cleats with no 7 studs. I was like, no, everybody got to put on studs, man.
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Debo Harrison
Look here, man. I'm gonna give y' all how this game went. We're gonna get y' all how this game went, man. Denver start off with the Rock. The past defense come out there. How hot hot. First down, they stop Harvey for one second down. He ain't getting Nathan. Third down, they ran up on that man and almost sacked fumbling, almost strip.
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Joe Hayden
Sacked him.
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Debo Harrison
Almost sacked for me. If he had just held on to it for a little longer. He was doing a little bit too much. That was instead of.
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Joe Hayden
He was doing a little too much. Throw the ball away.
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Debo Harrison
Throw the ball away, son. And then they punt the Rock over. And bruh, this damn punter over there in Denver, he's nasty. He throwing with his leg, boy. Throwing with his leg. Yes, he going. He pinned us.
- [29:04]
Joe Hayden
The eight yard line us. Oh, so you gonna go ahead? Okay, okay.
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Debo Harrison
At the eight.
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Joe Hayden
I thought, I thought they was going win soon. They get the winner.
- [29:17]
Debo Harrison
Hey, first down, we get five with Stevenson. Okay, second down. When he pick up one more. Okay, fourth down. May is almost pick this. But Diggs plays some good defense. He was able to knock the ball out of his hand.
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Joe Hayden
Good, good, good. Good play by Diggs.
- [29:40]
Debo Harrison
We punt the ball, we ball. And my guy Schooler do what he do. He did it all game blow. That was a one yard law. That was a one yard law. Okay, the enemy get the ball. Denver, that's my enemy now. Let me stop playing with you. Never get the ball. First down. Oh, dude. He scrambled up out of a sack. Make a good pass. I think it was the Harvey, but it was incomplete. It didn't matter if he did catch it.
- [30:12]
Joe Hayden
I think it was an illegal, illegal touch. He went out of bounds.
- [30:15]
Debo Harrison
Yeah, yeah. Second down. Dude dropped the screen. I think he could have scored on that one though. Yeah. They end up getting the third and 10.
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Joe Hayden
Boy.
- [30:25]
Debo Harrison
And he hits Mems. Whoa.
- [30:29]
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm talking about. That's what the chance. Look Stidham, at the beginning of that game, that's versus Gonzalez. It looked like a little miscommunication.
- [30:36]
Debo Harrison
What happened, Joe?
- [30:37]
Joe Hayden
He was chilling. It looked like a cover 4. He was like he was going to have a safety, but the safety was looking to steal something. From the other side. And I'm like, it just looked like him. Cuz Gonzalez, he's not chilling like that for no reason. I think he's expecting somebody to have his top. So he went up there and he got beat that. You can't have that.
- [30:54]
Debo Harrison
52 yards, brother. First down for. Was it first and goal at the seven. They try a little trickery with. With Bo Bryant. He should have got dropped for a loss, but he ended up scrambling for a hot yard second down. What happened there, Joe? What's going on?
- [31:15]
Joe Hayden
This miscommunication. We having bad eyes. We got to know who has who. I'm thinking that the corner might have the flat and the safety might have the top. But then you got to play high to low. It was just definitely bad eyes because once he started running, they were late to get to wherever they needed to be. So I don't know who had who right there, but it was a miscommunication.
- [31:34]
Debo Harrison
Yeah. Six yard touchdown to Sutton. Sutton. Sorry, Sutton. Seven zero Pats get the ball back. First down. May goes to Diggs for a hot little six. I think second down. Stevenson picked up three that third and one. Stevenson goes picks up the other one. It's first down. I think they. They went first down and now to D. What was 13 doing? Bro, he ain't blocking soul. They talking about dude may egg like dude 13 didn't block us.
- [32:05]
Joe Hayden
Not yet.
- [32:06]
Debo Harrison
He didn't even touch that, man. He dropped him for a two yard loss. I think it was second down. They went up there to booty and Sir Tan. Dude, he could he. If he had, he could have had that. Nice try. Wrong guy. Yeah, he was all over that 3rd and 12th. I think it was. What was it? That cut block. Almost got maze back.
- [32:33]
Joe Hayden
Blew out bro the line. That's what I'm the tackle. The Cooper looking weak. Just trying to die for my man legs.
- [32:41]
Debo Harrison
That's lazy. That's lazy blocking.
- [32:43]
Joe Hayden
Lazy work.
- [32:44]
Debo Harrison
That's lazy blocking, bro. Like Diggs gets a hot little three. They can't get nowhere. They end up punting the ball. Denver gets the rock back. I think first down, Harvey shook like he just shook. Old boy in the backfield. That should have been a drop for a loss. He gets nine on there. Second down. He passed it to Brian. He picked up the little two for the first down. They ended up getting to second and Harvey, he picked up the what? The two. I said the two for the first down, right? Yeah. Yeah. So the plats then they're able to hold them to. I think it was like one yard on the first down. And then was it the second. Second down is when dude dropped it. Sutton dropped that one.
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Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [33:41]
Debo Harrison
Right. Okay. Third down, nothing. They end up putting it right back over to him. Pass. Get the Rock. First down, Henderson, 4 yards. Second down, May gets sacked like. Yes, Bruh. That was, that was a great.
- [33:59]
Joe Hayden
That was a great play by the dn.
- [34:02]
Debo Harrison
I know, but that was a smart decision because I saw him thinking about trying to throw that thing and, and compounding, you know, the issue instead of just taking the sack, you know. Third down didn't matter. They ended up punting the Rock over Denver. Get the Rock back. First down, what was it? McLaughlin, he ran for a hot three. And then Stedham, he hits Ingram for seven in the first down. Short pass to McLaughlin for two. McLaughlin for two. Second down, I think was a five yard pass to sudden they get to third and three. He had a nice little pass right there. Like he was feeling this time he was feeling this.
- [34:45]
Joe Hayden
That's where the coach started. But this one, I'm trying to tell you too, you gotta. Did the coach watch the weather report? You know what I'm saying? Did the coach watch the weather report? He started feeling too confident. Stidham was driving it, making some good passes. Started getting a little cocky. Started getting a little confident. That's what I'm looking at it like Deebo, in my eyes.
- [35:05]
Debo Harrison
Yeah. They hand the ball to Harvey on the next play. He went for nine. I think the fullback picked up three on the next one for the first down. Then it was Harvey again for three.
- [35:14]
Joe Hayden
Second down, they hit him all angles.
- [35:17]
Debo Harrison
He goes and scrambles up out of that thing. I don't know how he scrambled up out of there. He got like a hot. And I think it was a two yard, something like that. Third down though, they start blitzing that boy. He scrambles, he gets five. And this right here, this fourth and one. I'm like, kick it. You already up seven. Go up ten.
- [35:40]
Joe Hayden
Go up ten. Make it a two possession game right here. Instantly it's two scores. And then I'm like, what I'm saying, it's early in the game. The weather report. You got to know points are at a maximum. You have a backup quarterback. I know you think he's willing and dealing, but you got down here, get you some points and then let's see what's going to happen. Your defense is balling, then maybe you try to get 13, you know, but make it to possession. That's what I was looking at it like oh, oh, he's going gusto. I know what you're thinking with momentum, but you're bugging.
- [36:12]
Debo Harrison
Bugging. Incomplete. Turnover on downs.
- [36:16]
Joe Hayden
Great defense, too. They was waiting on your little scramble play, dude.
- [36:22]
Debo Harrison
Go ahead. First down. May get sacked again. They get the third long in May. May hits Holland for Twinkie.
- [36:34]
Joe Hayden
Great ball. Dagger. Right on time.
- [36:37]
Debo Harrison
Great ball. But he bobbled that thing.
- [36:39]
Joe Hayden
He bobbled it. He bobbled it.
- [36:41]
Debo Harrison
He bobbled that thing and then got up with the. I'm like, nah, man, I'm just gonna walk away from it. Go down. Just go ahead and walk away from that. They get to a third and manageable. And May is sacked again. They gotta punch the Rock. Yep, they get a rock back over to Denver. First down, give it to the boy Harvey. You know, for five, I believe it was incomplete. You know, your boy. Your boy not looking as comfortable in that pocket anymore. They blitz.
- [37:08]
Joe Hayden
He started glitching a little bit.
- [37:10]
Debo Harrison
He started glitching. Third down. I think he hit Mims for five in the first, you know? Yeah, okay, though. I thought he was gonna panic in that pocket. He kind of looked like he ain't know. He was like, all right, I could get it off.
- [37:25]
Joe Hayden
Right around this.
- [37:27]
Debo Harrison
Go ahead.
- [37:28]
Joe Hayden
I said right around this. Drive. Right here is where he looks so comfortable. Then they didn't convert the fourth, and then now he starts looking in the pocket, glitching, backing up a little bit too much. I'm like, yo, slow. Wow. Like, it. Don't mess it up. Don't turn over the ball. Your defense is playing too well. Like, that was like stem.
- [37:48]
Debo Harrison
That's what he does.
- [37:49]
Joe Hayden
Come on, man.
- [37:50]
Debo Harrison
Third down. He could have either just tossed that thing into the ground. If he feel like he couldn't toss it and take the sack, just take it. Just take it. Instead, he throws the rock backwards. They recovered the thing at the, what, 10, 12, something like that, man, I.
- [38:10]
Joe Hayden
Think it was the 12 yard, 12 yard line pass.
- [38:13]
Debo Harrison
Get the ball. First play, they do a little look like it's gonna be a run. Hit the backside, the booty for six. Second down, they said, we got the numbers. Run it, May. Go ahead, take that thing up the middle, Tug. It's tied up. After all y' all did, how y' all had them done is tied up now. You could have been 10, 7 right now.
- [38:38]
Joe Hayden
Still up, yo.
- [38:41]
Debo Harrison
May need to learn how to fall too, man. He go kill himself out there.
- [38:44]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, man, he is. Yeah, he. He doesn't have the breast. Doesn't have the best slide at all.
- [38:49]
Debo Harrison
No question. Denver get back out there. First down. He is almost sacked. Fumbled again.
- [38:54]
Joe Hayden
That's what he's. Now Stenom is starting to look steady. He's starting to look skittish. He's nervous.
- [39:02]
Debo Harrison
Second down, though. He went on here, picked it up. He got Harvey for the 10 in the first. He made more for that on his own, though. I think the first down was incomplete. Cause, hey, the blitz, dude, the blitz was coming. He started rushing. His timing. He throwing that thing in front, behind.
- [39:17]
Joe Hayden
Huh, that thing.
- [39:19]
Debo Harrison
He gets sacked on the second down. The guard just got beat, like beat.
- [39:23]
Joe Hayden
To sleep and that. But that's. That's an all Pro. He got Euro step third.
- [39:30]
Debo Harrison
It's what? Third and 18, 20. They pick up a hot. You know, they do a dunk, pick up a hot. Whatever. They punt the Rock back over. Patriots get the. Get the ball.
- [39:39]
Joe Hayden
All right. And this where it starts to get a little crazy too.
- [39:41]
Debo Harrison
Before halftime, Denver is able to hold them to a three. And now because of the drop by Henry on second down, they gotta punt.
- [39:50]
Joe Hayden
The Rock back over that drop behind to Henry. That was the one.
- [39:54]
Debo Harrison
That was the one that made it to where they. They forced that three. And now he dropped that rock. They punted. They punted back over to. They punted back over to Denver. First down, Harvey breaks tackle. He gets like an 11 right there out the backfield. They end up getting to a second and 10. I think Sutton got six. And then third down, your boy is sacked. He's sacked.
- [40:20]
Joe Hayden
So then we get this 54 yarder.
- [40:23]
Debo Harrison
You attempt a 54 yarder and you miss. And you miss. And you miss.
- [40:31]
Joe Hayden
Ball.
- [40:32]
Debo Harrison
Pedro's ball, dude. They get to a third and 15.
- [40:36]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [40:37]
Debo Harrison
It would pick up 16 yards, bro.
- [40:40]
Joe Hayden
To the slide into the timeout.
- [40:43]
Debo Harrison
To the slide into the timeout and go for a 63 yarder.
- [40:49]
Joe Hayden
Not even a shot.
- [40:51]
Debo Harrison
Not a shot. What is it? A snowball's chance in hell.
- [40:55]
Joe Hayden
Snowball's chance in hell.
- [40:57]
Debo Harrison
They miss, brother. Go ahead. They start the third. And you know what they did to start the third, bro? They went 16 plays, 64 yards, almost 10 minutes, and kick a 23 yard field goal, bruh. Stevens Stevenson would pick up what, 12, I think may scramble for almost 30.
- [41:21]
Joe Hayden
They took that drive was, bro.
- [41:23]
Debo Harrison
Henry picked up nine on the. On the. On the third down. That gave him the fourth and one at the eight. They would pick up the first stint.
- [41:33]
Joe Hayden
That. That whole drive, Debo was basically the game. They went for 900, 930 on them. Nine minutes, 30 seconds, like you said. Scored the Points. And soon as that happen, you be. Everybody won't listen about the weather, but that's when it started looking crazy out there when nobody can complete anything.
- [41:52]
Debo Harrison
If it wasn't for the third down sack on may boot, they might have scored a tutty. They forced them to a field goal. They make the field goal. It's 10 to 7. Would have been 10.
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Joe Hayden
Yep.
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Debo Harrison
Denver get out there and the pat say ah. Get a body. Three and on.
- [42:09]
Joe Hayden
Been out.
- [42:10]
Debo Harrison
Three and out. Three and out pass. Get back out there. Second and ten. What may do?
- [42:17]
Joe Hayden
Scramble for 13, take off for 13.
- [42:19]
Debo Harrison
He need to learn how to slide, bro. Yeah, he's going to kill himself, bro. He's going to kill himself. Like, like, like second and six. They do the trickery and Holland's he goes here, get 31.
- [42:33]
Joe Hayden
That was the smoothest flea flicker I've ever seen in the snow. They just boop boop, slow. Super slow. But it worked perfectly.
- [42:43]
Debo Harrison
Yes. They end up getting to the fourth down. They're at like what does the 28. They go for a 46 yard field goal.
- [42:51]
Joe Hayden
Yes. Brother bruh miss.
- [42:55]
Debo Harrison
But it's still seven to ten. And on top of that, what was it about six, seven plays? Yeah.
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Joe Hayden
Still gotta look ten.
- [43:04]
Debo Harrison
They get the ball back with 11 seconds left in the third quarter.
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Debo Harrison
Like New England had the ball for 13 minutes. Over 13 minutes, bro. Of 15 in the third quarter. Yeah, that's wow. That is wow.
- [43:20]
Joe Hayden
That's ball control, man.
- [43:22]
Debo Harrison
Yeah, that's what you gotta do when.
- [43:23]
Joe Hayden
You need to start closing out games.
- [43:25]
Debo Harrison
Then we get out there and he, hey, he ain't in his bag no more. He ain't smiling no more, man. They force another three and out because what that boy doing that third down. Pbu. Pbu.
- [43:39]
Joe Hayden
I need all that jones on it because not the weather. That's when it comes to being a db. I love playing in the snow like that because as long as you keep your feet, it's hard to catch that ball. So as soon as it hits them all I got to make sure I'm breaking your arms. I'm smacking you as hard as I can because it's already secure.
- [43:58]
Debo Harrison
Yeah.
- [43:58]
Joe Hayden
Trying to get. You got to do. All I got to do is make sure you don't catch it. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to catch the ball out there. So I'm just trying to smack your arms, anything. Because the weather is in my favor.
- [44:09]
Debo Harrison
Oh, no question. Then it is all the way in your favorite end pass. Get the ball back first down, Stevenson get about 11. They end up getting to a was it third and four?
- [44:19]
Joe Hayden
Yep.
- [44:20]
Debo Harrison
And may is sacked again. I ain't tripping. They ain't tripping because the defenses they going back and forth. They punt the Rock back over. Okay, they give it to Denver. I think Denver might have picked up like one first down through the process. But then the next first down, he was pressured. The second down just incomplete, blowing up the whole. Yeah, third down. What was it just short? Yes, just short. They got, they gotta punt the Rock back over and here come this damn punter again.
- [44:53]
Joe Hayden
He to the eight yard line, passed it down there again.
- [44:57]
Debo Harrison
Again kicking. He, he, he he throwing with his foot. He throwing. He throwing with his foot, man. His foot got his foot got a hand on it. He got it. He got to have a hand on it, man.
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Joe Hayden
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Debo Harrison
Like it gotta get a handle now the first down, they get the ball in the running back. Slip. Slip sees it in his head and makes the decision. I'm not about to try and run this because what did he do the last time he tried to make up for the play and run it? He fumbled.
- [48:30]
Joe Hayden
Somebody punched it out so he just.
- [48:31]
Debo Harrison
Went let me go down here.
- [48:33]
Joe Hayden
Nope.
- [48:34]
Debo Harrison
I'm not gonna compound this thing and make it worse.
- [48:37]
Joe Hayden
They end up running bank May is understanding my running back can't even get his footing to get the ball. What I'm not over. We just need to make sure we just take all this clock out and they damn near started taking the knee debo like for the plays. I felt like that's what they were about to start doing. I felt like they were gonna just take a knee, let the clock run down. You know what I'm saying? Three knees and then punt like. Cause he scrambled on the third down, he scrambled to the sideline and threw the joint out of bounds. Like if nobody, if he's not open. Throw it out of bounds. So I'm like, oh, do not put.
- [49:08]
Debo Harrison
The ball in jeopardy.
- [49:09]
Joe Hayden
Do not put the ball in jeopardy. Make sure Stidham, he's getting. He's getting real glitchy back there. And the weather is looking terrible. We're up. No. Everybody's missing field goals. Make them have to drive down. There's no way. And I was looking at it too, like this. Oh, my goodness. They're playing keep away. They like, not even keep away. Just drain the plot. I'm gonna give it to you like, you're not gonna be able to score on us.
- [49:31]
Debo Harrison
Yeah. They end up forcing them three and out. They. They punt the ball. I don't even know if that was a shank or just a terrible kick.
- [49:40]
Joe Hayden
It was just a terrible kick to the 33 yard line. I don't know how far they. I'm looking. How far did it go?
- [49:46]
Debo Harrison
I don't. Dude. I don't know. Dude.
- [49:48]
Joe Hayden
Balling the balls.
- [49:49]
Debo Harrison
But the defense stands up. Defense stands up. They only let them boys get, what, five yards in three plays after it was all said and done with the losses and the games. Yeah. And they go. Go ahead and try for a 45 yard field goal. You should have kicked the short one when you was up there.
- [50:10]
Joe Hayden
And now you want to kick a 45 yarder in the blizzard.
- [50:14]
Debo Harrison
Blocked it goes off. They done missed it, bro.
- [50:20]
Joe Hayden
After you see, Buddy blocked it. Buddy got a hand on that.
- [50:22]
Debo Harrison
Yes, he tipped that thing. He got a hand on that.
- [50:26]
Joe Hayden
That's just what they get.
- [50:27]
Debo Harrison
Now take the points while they're there. Pass. Get the rock back, dude.
- [50:34]
Joe Hayden
And this is what I was talking about.
- [50:37]
Debo Harrison
They forced a three and out on that one, though, brother.
- [50:40]
Joe Hayden
It's not even a forcing of a three and out, Debo. They weren't trying. They were literally just making sure they weren't going.
- [50:47]
Debo Harrison
Let me give him some credit, man.
- [50:49]
Joe Hayden
No, no, no, no. Stevenson lost. Got two, then he scrambled to the side through it. No, I'm like this. No, y' all are just. I don't. Y' all ain't tricking me.
- [50:57]
Debo Harrison
But three of them get the ball back, brother. Second down. Your boy went to the well one too many times, and he said, you're not going to get me again.
- [51:08]
Joe Hayden
No, no, no, no. It's too high to low. Great play by Gonzalez. Just making sure he looking at the quarterback the whole time. And Stidham throws a lollipop straight up in the air. Receiver. You got to know this, too. The whole time, look. The whole time because you it's snowing. The quarterback's not going to be able to throw a 40 yard dot on the outside. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be a jump ball. So you got to look earlier. But Gonzalez great job staying on top, making a play, ending the game.
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Debo Harrison
No question. Well may ended the thing with the scramble. How you you can let me outrun you on the counter.
- [51:45]
Joe Hayden
That's the defensive end. He not outrunning me but he definitely got missing on Buddy. He had Buddy could have tried to get to the angle and maybe hit the hit hit the gas on them, dude. That's what you gotta do.
- [51:57]
Debo Harrison
No question. You got to bro. You got to game over 10 to 7 because you wanted to pass up some easy points, bro. That makes no sense. No sense.
- [52:14]
Joe Hayden
I mean You Patriots had 206 total yards of offense. The Broncos had 181 total yards offense. It was the beginning like you said first half when you have those weather conditions, you felt so good, drove it down, big play, scored a touchdown and you thought you about to go up 14 0. No just two possessions. Like every possession in each of these playoff games means so much and you're a smart coach. I know you went in that thing and studied the weather report. It was bright outside at the beginning. It's going to get ugly. Let's get any points on the board that we can three. You know what I'm saying field goal is anything's going to be hard to come by. So this is a great defense that we're playing against. Luckily like he thought he was going to stem is going to play like that the whole game. He could have started terrible then did a little bit good. But you got the good early and got comfortable and thought you the whole game no foolio. Every time we get in the position to get any type of points with Stidham, let's do it. You know what I'm saying? Like we take the three, you know what I'm saying? We're playing against the Patriots. We're here. Our defense is balling three. Three is good. Three is seven. You know what I'm saying? We don't need to never leave him with zero. We never need to leave with zero.
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Debo Harrison
It's the playoffs man. We it's eliminate total elimination. Like you're fighting to go to the super bowl, buddy. And you up here doing that and you up seven leaving point. What? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
- [53:37]
Joe Hayden
I'm not doing that either.
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Debo Harrison
Drake may ain't even have 100 yards passing, did he?
- [53:41]
Joe Hayden
Nah, man. Drake May.
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Debo Harrison
Listen, that boy.
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Joe Hayden
In the 31 yard.
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- [53:49]
Debo Harrison
Killed them scrambling and running like, come on, man. And the mistakes, bruh, the mistakes over there by the QB that he was. Oh, yeah, we. We. They got two weeks off. No, no, y' all got. Y' all got all the time out now. He's just compounded. That's. But. But that comes from not having that playing time. Not having that time during the season. Mason in there in his head and he like, oh, I remember I did that. Nope, I can't do that. I gotta take this.
- [54:16]
Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah.
- [54:17]
Debo Harrison
I can't compound this.
- [54:19]
Joe Hayden
I remember that time.
- [54:23]
Debo Harrison
Right? That one. They punched that thing out. He was like, nope, we're not gonna.
- [54:28]
Joe Hayden
Let me drop down a little bit earlier. You know what I'm saying? Not worth it. You keep it points off the board when you don't turn over the rock. Like, that's the biggest part. When you have such a good team, your defense is not allowing. No. And if they do make it on them, make them know, make them make sense. Make them drive it on our defense. Don't just give them layups. They scored that Patriot. They laid it up. They had the ball on the 12. That's a layup.
- [54:54]
Debo Harrison
You know, Scored the touchdown. They did score. They hit a 50 yarder on you. They know. No, make them work it down the field. They ain't gonna be able to work it down the field. They gonna be able to do that in the end. Hell, the quarterback that you were so highly on, he went on ahead and tossed that thing over to him. But the biggest thing to me was Sean Payton not kicking that field goal right there on that fourth down. Yep. Like, how do you. Dude, that's crazy. I don't even understand that one right there. I don't. I don't. If you make it. Yeah. This ain't even talked about. But you didn't.
- [55:29]
Joe Hayden
Damn.
- [55:29]
Debo Harrison
It was the fifth, you know. Yep. And Joe, we go going on over here because we ain't got that much time. We go going on over here to Seattle.
- [55:38]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [55:39]
Debo Harrison
Okay. Seattle in the ring. Oh. Yep. And 31 to 27. What did I tell you? Oh, the Rams defense. What did I tell you? What did I tell you about their DBs? Answer me when I'm talking to you.
- [55:57]
Joe Hayden
You told me. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. You told me that they was going to. The defense was going to be trash. And do you know what I told you? How much did Puka go For how much did Puka go for? Under 91.
- [56:10]
Debo Harrison
But who did you have winning?
- [56:11]
Joe Hayden
Huh?
- [56:12]
Debo Harrison
Who did you have winning?
- [56:14]
Joe Hayden
How much you had? Puka hunter? If.
- [56:15]
Debo Harrison
100. I don't.
- [56:16]
Joe Hayden
Okay, I was wrong.
- [56:18]
Debo Harrison
Okay, I was wrong, but I was right. The big thing I was right about. Who cares about the individual performances if it don't get you to W. Cause.
- [56:28]
Joe Hayden
I'm talking about prize. I'm trying to talk about people getting people paid.
- [56:32]
Debo Harrison
Joe. Yeah, Joe. Joe.
- [56:35]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [56:35]
Debo Harrison
I'm talking about winning.
- [56:36]
Joe Hayden
Joe, you right. You said they was right. I was wrong. I thought the Rams was going to suit, but you know. You know, you know who proved me wrong?
- [56:43]
Debo Harrison
I'd rather have zero tackles.
- [56:45]
Joe Hayden
Do you know who proved me wrong?
- [56:46]
Debo Harrison
Zero everything.
- [56:48]
Joe Hayden
Do you know who proved me wrong? Do you know who proved me wrong? The person who proved me wrong. Sam. Damn. Darnold.
- [56:56]
Debo Harrison
Mm.
- [56:57]
Joe Hayden
Oh, my goodness.
- [56:59]
Debo Harrison
That man.
- [57:00]
Joe Hayden
That man look. And I'm telling you, my man don't play. Maddie's. Matthew Stafford was out there balling, too. He was hooping. But Matt. I mean, but Sam Darnold. What in the. He was looking. He looked so good. I'm going to give him all of my credit. I'm going to give him all of my respect because I.
- [57:19]
Debo Harrison
You have to. What are you talking about? It's nothing that you could do with. What was it, 25.
- [57:23]
Joe Hayden
I wasn't expecting it.
- [57:25]
Debo Harrison
25 for. Of. Of 36. 346 yards.
- [57:32]
Joe Hayden
Oh, my goodness.
- [57:33]
Debo Harrison
It was so crazy. Is that Sam? Sorry. Sam Darnold. Yes, I was correct. Sam Darnold and your boy Stafford over there got close to the same passer rating, but that's kind of used to that from him.
- [57:51]
Joe Hayden
I'm not blaming this Matt.
- [57:53]
Debo Harrison
Matthew Stafford, we knew that's what he needed to do, but that wasn't gonna win him if they couldn't stop Sam Darnold.
- [57:59]
Joe Hayden
No, no. You know what? No, no, no, no, no.
- [58:02]
Debo Harrison
I told you that defense wasn't like that, Joe.
- [58:04]
Joe Hayden
No, no, no.
- [58:05]
Debo Harrison
I'm tired of you disrespecting me.
- [58:06]
Joe Hayden
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I'm not letting you get this one over. It was what I told you, too. The Rams special teams lay the end.
- [58:17]
Debo Harrison
Man, I don't want to hear nothing about that fumble. I don't want to hear nothing about that. They knew he was go.
- [58:23]
Joe Hayden
He tried to do it twice. I'm like, oh, my God, they should.
- [58:26]
Debo Harrison
Have get him out of the game the first time. He must.
- [58:27]
Joe Hayden
That, that. And then, you know who else? Seahawks. My man, the rookie. His name Number three. And how do you pronounce his last name?
- [58:37]
Debo Harrison
I. I don't know, so I ain't gonna try to.
- [58:39]
Joe Hayden
He looks like. He looked like.
- [58:43]
Debo Harrison
What's my strapping.
- [58:44]
Joe Hayden
He looked like Derwin James. He looks just like Derwin James. He was strapped. He strapped Puka on the play. He strapped Devonte on the play. He strapped the running back on the play. He took over a series like he that young man balling. So Sam Darnold hooped jsn.
- [59:02]
Debo Harrison
Who?
- [59:03]
Joe Hayden
Walker the third. Oh, my goodness. Since Charbonnet's out now he want to get all the carries. I think that might even be better. Two headed monster is nice, but you got Walker toting the joint like this. I got the Seahawks winning the super bowl for sure after this weekend because.
- [59:19]
Debo Harrison
Oh, now you want to come. Now you want to come over?
- [59:21]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, cause you weave with the. You, you weed with the Patriots. So you going. You're not going to go with your Patriots for the Super Bowl. You were saying with the Patriots.
- [59:30]
Debo Harrison
Oh, I was bull. I was bull fragger rocking on. That ain't no we.
- [59:34]
Joe Hayden
So Patriots vs Seahawks in the championship. You going.
- [59:37]
Debo Harrison
We're talking about these games right here, not the Super Bowl.
- [59:40]
Joe Hayden
What you going with? This is. Okay, so for the Super Bowl, I'm going Seattle.
- [59:44]
Debo Harrison
I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still proudly Go, go Patriots. But I gotta look at what I'm looking at as far as O D special teams. What scares me is the offense ain't really doing much over here right now. And the special teams, they liable to shank something on. So like I said, who's liable to shank some New England?
- [60:17]
Joe Hayden
Okay. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Seahawks special team. I'll have to look at Rasheed, Rasheed, Rasheed. Probably gonna run back a punt or a kickoff. Seahawks special teams is not to be messed with.
- [60:28]
Debo Harrison
Dude, I. Yeah, like I said, man. But hey, what I ain't worried about is him running it back. You forgot Shuler over there, right? Sure, sure, over there. Yep, you forgot he over there, right, man.
- [60:43]
Joe Hayden
Okay, I'm going Seattle.
- [60:46]
Debo Harrison
I understand what you're saying. Only thing I'm worried about is them not kicking it far enough. That's what I'm worried about. I ain't worried about them taking it back. I'm worried about the field position battle. That's gonna come. Okay, now you add that on top of your boy over there on that fourth and four going forward instead of kicking that field goal, that could have been 30 to 31. Now you look at the end of the game.
- [61:11]
Joe Hayden
Nope. See? Yeah, I'm going.
- [61:13]
Debo Harrison
If you had saved just one time out over there.
- [61:16]
Joe Hayden
The timeouts.
- [61:18]
Debo Harrison
20 and a 23. They got him to the. What was it? The 49 right there. But he got tackle and bounds. If they just had one timeout, that could have been a field goal game winner. But anyway, the time I told you what was gonna happen was gonna happen in the DB was down bad, man.
- [61:36]
Joe Hayden
So were the Rams DBs.
- [61:40]
Debo Harrison
I knew that was gonna happen.
- [61:42]
Joe Hayden
And let's see. And the Seahawks DBs too, Spoon. I mean they was getting to act like puka didn't have 1/3.
- [61:48]
Debo Harrison
Hey, listen.
- [61:49]
Joe Hayden
Act like Devontae didn't have 80 something with a tighty.
- [61:53]
Debo Harrison
Listen, bruh.
- [61:54]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, Puka yes. Puka yes.
- [62:00]
Debo Harrison
Didn't do enough to win the game.
- [62:03]
Joe Hayden
It's a team game. If Buddy wouldn't have fumbled them two jumps and then. I ain't.
- [62:10]
Debo Harrison
Going for you hollering on Buddy. If Buddy did this. If Buddy did that. It's a team game.
- [62:15]
Joe Hayden
They won it. They won. They still gave up 30 balls. Man. Them shout out Seattle. I'm not gonna disrespect. No disrespect. That was a good game. That was a good game. Them boys was balling. Yeah. Shout out Sam Darnold.
- [62:33]
Debo Harrison
He.
- [62:33]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [62:33]
Debo Harrison
Shout out.
- [62:34]
Joe Hayden
That's who.
- [62:35]
Debo Harrison
Shout out Sam Darnold. Shout out Mike Vabel coach of the year easily.
- [62:41]
Joe Hayden
Shout out. Damn, what's my man?
- [62:43]
Debo Harrison
That man went from. From that was it 4 and 13 with to stop playing, bruh. He in the Super Bowl. Went from not even having a chance.
- [62:53]
Joe Hayden
Even stop playing Yuri. That's his one year even Yuri from Seattle. Young Derwin James, rookie baller.
- [63:06]
Debo Harrison
Baller. Look here, man, we got some super chats.
- [63:10]
Joe Hayden
We got, man.
- [63:10]
Debo Harrison
We got. We got. I guess we got a leftover super chat from American sass. American assassin 001. I guess he was the first one. Not 007, but it was double O1.
- [63:26]
Joe Hayden
What he got going.
- [63:28]
Debo Harrison
Donated $10. Said for the love of God, please. Debo. Me and my wife both are begging for you to be the head. That's over with the head coach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give Debo the bag.
- [63:47]
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm telling you.
- [63:48]
Debo Harrison
Stillers. Get Debo the bag.
- [63:51]
Joe Hayden
He gonna.
- [63:53]
Debo Harrison
They should have gave me the bag, Joe.
- [63:55]
Joe Hayden
They should have gave you the bag.
- [63:57]
Debo Harrison
Gave me the bag.
- [63:58]
Joe Hayden
Look, we got time now because we know McCarthy, man, he gonna be there too long. So we got. But we got you got time to prep. Got time to prep for your time.
- [64:07]
Debo Harrison
I might. I might have to go and see if I could offer my services or something, man. You know, I believe maybe, you know, maybe. Maybe he might. Maybe he might be willing, you know, to see what I can. What I could offer to the team. And I might, you know, I'll throw you in there and give you a couple, you know. Yeah. Give you a shout out, make sure you get an opportunity. But I'm gonna let y' all know, y' all want us in there. This what's gonna happen now. Y' all want us in there. We ain't gonna be able to do the show no more.
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Announcer
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- [64:46]
Debo Harrison
It's gonna be kind of a conflict.
- [64:49]
Joe Hayden
Of interest, and then we gonna be on here not being able to get an inside scoop, and then we're gonna.
- [64:56]
Debo Harrison
Have too much inside school.
- [64:58]
Joe Hayden
We gonna be the scoop.
- [65:00]
Debo Harrison
We. Hey, we gonna be the scoop. That might be a conflict. That might be a serious conflict right there now. Yep, Yep, yep, yep.
- [65:09]
Joe Hayden
So we gonna do it until we get this. We're gonna do it until we get the job, though.
- [65:14]
Debo Harrison
We gonna do it. We're gonna do it till we get job. We're gonna. We're gonna do it till we get job. Look at Dash 100. Donated $5. Said, what up, Debo and Joe. He said pairing Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rodgers is a great move. If it was 15 years ago.
- [65:34]
Joe Hayden
I took the word right out of my mouth, brother.
- [65:36]
Debo Harrison
I mean, that would. That would be definitely a great move if it was 15 years ago.
- [65:39]
Joe Hayden
Yep. Because, you know. Yep.
- [65:42]
Debo Harrison
Yeah, I. I definitely.
- [65:44]
Joe Hayden
I wish you would be talking. Well, yeah. When they was the. When they was the league mvp.
- [65:49]
Debo Harrison
Yeah. I. I mean, hopefully he can. I mean, hopefully he knows what he. You know, I mean, he know what he's getting into, what he got to do to build. I don't know.
- [66:00]
Joe Hayden
You don't even believe.
- [66:04]
Debo Harrison
Bro. I'm hoping, bro. I'm hoping for the best, bro.
- [66:07]
Joe Hayden
Over there.
- [66:08]
Debo Harrison
You don't even.
- [66:08]
Joe Hayden
Dang, Debo. I could see that's what. Knowing you now, I know you believe in something, and I know you don't.
- [66:15]
Debo Harrison
I'm. I'm. Bro. I'm just. I like. I like being proven wrong sometimes. Especially when the situation is like this. I really do. I would. I would love to be proven wrong on this.
- [66:26]
Joe Hayden
It's gonna be the time that you do, like, the. You. You just give. You just say something crazy because you know that they listening, and you hope that they just do the opposite, and it works. Out.
- [66:40]
Debo Harrison
I don't know if that's how this works.
- [66:45]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, man. Good luck. McCarthy for sure.
- [66:51]
Debo Harrison
I'm check it out, bro. I'm check it out, though. I mean, I don't know. We might. We might be. I don't know. Anyway, man, we got Rick Underscore from New York. He donated $5. He said, I'm 42 and I have cried after two games in my lifetime. Super Bowl 30 and 45. Why do I need to keep seeing these guys that beat us on my team? Hey, man, you talk about Aaron and. And Mike McCarthy, man. Oh, and they beat him in 2010. Yeah, we lost. We lost to him in 2010, man. Debo for hall of Fame. Yes. Let's go. Let's do it.
- [67:35]
Joe Hayden
Let's go, Debo.
- [67:36]
Debo Harrison
Hl, baby. Hey, look here. Speaking of that. Speaking of that. Look here. So great. And we say the big thing everyone says is, is. Is. You say Mike is great because he never had a losing season. That's a great accomplishment. It doesn't make you the greatest. I have a Super bowl interception that's 100 yards. No one has ever done in the history of the league as he has done something or ever since. Now, that doesn't make me the greatest. I am the only and probably will only be the ever undrafted free agent that has won a defensive mvp. That doesn't make me the greatest. But because he has not had a losing season, that makes him the greatest. That cannot go together. It don't go together. It won't go together. Look here, man. We want to thank you guys for joining on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you, like, subscribe and download the show. Joe. Yes.
- [68:54]
Joe Hayden
Please make sure you, like, subscribe, download and catch me and debo here tomorrow, 11 o'.
- [69:01]
Debo Harrison
Clock. Yes, sir. We'll see you guys tomorrow. And we out.
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