Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Eagles SURVIVING vs. Cowboys + Jalen Carter SPITTING on Dak Prescott
Host: iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media
Guests: James "Deebo" Harrison & Joe Haden
Date: September 5, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode dives deep into the heated aftermath of the Eagles' narrow win against the Cowboys, focusing especially on the pre-game incident involving Jalen Carter allegedly spitting on Dak Prescott. Former NFL stars Deebo Harrison and Joe Haden unpack the significance of this act, its impact on the teams, and debate the appropriate punishment. They also analyze the Eagles-Cowboys game, discuss team dynamics, trade rumors, the NFLPA's leadership, and close out with personal stories and light-hearted banter about jersey numbers, boxing legends, and lottery dreams.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Jalen Carter Spitting on Dak Prescott (00:29 – 07:27)
- Incident Details:
- Before kickoff, Jalen Carter was caught spitting on Dak Prescott, an act perceived as the “most disrespectful thing in the world” (A/Harrison, 00:29).
- The hosts are stunned Dak didn’t immediately react and debate how they would have responded.
- “If somebody was to spit on me, like, go ahead, get my bail money together. Like, I’m going to jail.” (A/Harrison, 00:29)
- Discussion & Reaction:
- Both are shocked there wasn’t a bigger on-field altercation; believe that had the offensive line seen it, it would have triggered an all-out brawl (03:03).
- Debate on Suspension:
- They deliberate appropriate punishment, with Deebo pushing for a six-game suspension to set an example, while Joe argues at least two games (06:19).
- “You got to hit him where it hurts, and that’s going to be in his check.” (B/Haden, 06:32)
2. Eagles Survive Cowboys: Game Analysis and Takeaways (07:29 – 16:33)
- Game Summary:
- Eagles won 24–20 despite distractions and neither team hitting its offensive stride.
- Jalen Hurts was effective: “Threw for 152 yards, went 19 for 23, 82% passing…Nothing too crazy, but end of the day… you want to get out of these games with wins.” (B/Haden, 08:00)
- Key Players:
- Saquon Barkley scored a touchdown (60 rushing yards).
- AJ Brown barely involved: “He had one catch for eight yards.” (B/Haden, 08:00)
- Cowboys Opportunities & Flaws:
- Need to involve George Pickens more; CeeDee Lamb had notable drops.
- Dallas defense missed Micah Parsons, evident in Hurts’ successful scrambles (16:29; 16:33).
- Weather Impact:
- Rain delay stunted rhythm for both teams (09:19).
- On Jalen Hurts’ Performance:
- “Jalen Hurts picked up a career high five first downs on nine scramble runs, including the game clinching third down conversion.” (A/Harrison, 11:18)
- Both praise Hurts’ poise and game-winning playmaking, but stop short of declaring him top-five at QB (12:02; 13:03).
3. Cowboys’ Roster Construction & Trade Rumors (15:05 – 18:12)
- Micah Parsons Trade Chatter:
- “No way in hell that Jerry Jones was gonna give Micah Parsons to the Eagles.” (A/Harrison, 17:19)
- Imagine Parsons on Eagles: “You’re almost…guaranteeing that you will never beat the Eagles for this foreseeable future.” (A/Harrison, 17:55)
- Dallas’ Talent:
- Both see Dallas as perhaps underrated, especially once at full strength (15:49).
4. Locker Room Culture: Micah Parsons' Comments on Packers vs. Cowboys (18:15 – 23:32)
- Parsons’ praise for Packers culture leads to discussion on locker room bonds:
- “That just shows how much these guys want to be here…makes it exciting to come to work.” (Parsons, paraphrased by A/Harrison, 18:15)
- Joe’s Take:
- Attributes it to city differences and new atmospheres; not necessarily a dig at Dallas (19:08).
- Deebo’s Experience:
- Recounts differences between Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and “the old days” of cohesive lockers vs. more compartmentalized teams now (20:21).
5. Media Relations: Stefon Diggs and the Boston Press (23:39 – 27:21)
- Diggs criticized for avoiding Boston media but later apologizes:
- “If I rubbed anyone wrong, I really want to apologize. … I’m not up here to ego trip.” (Diggs, paraphrased by A, 24:08)
- Joe Haden’s Defense:
- “Diggs is a really, really good dude…he just wanted to keep it football.” (B/Haden, 25:36)
6. NFLPA Critique & Leadership Aspirations (27:21 – 38:44)
- 18-Game Season Negotiation:
- Deebo believes extension is “inevitable,” calling out interim director David White for saying otherwise (27:37).
- Issues with NFLPA Leadership:
- Deebo criticizes lack of player-focused leadership, referencing hurdles to accessing post-career healthcare, and recalls stories about past and current execs failing to prioritize players (31:47; 34:23).
- Announces intent to run: “My name will be in a hat. The leadership we need is a guy that… understands what we go through.” (A/Harrison, 32:34; 34:23)
- Joe’s Support:
- “You deserve to be the NFL executive director of the NFLPA…” (B/Haden, 36:24)
7. NFL Contracts & Jersey Number Trades (38:44 – 43:41)
- Devante Adams’ Million-Dollar Number Ask:
- Rookie Malachi wants $1 million for his jersey number, shutting Adams down (39:51).
- Personal Stories:
- Haden paid $20,000 for #23 as a rookie: “I bought number 23 for 20 bands as a rookie.” (B/Haden, 40:11)
- Harrison landed #92 for $3,000 in New England and relays other number-related anecdotes (42:48 – 43:02).
8. Generational Quarterbacks Debate (44:20 – 46:13)
- Controversial TV Take:
- RC (Ryan Clark) said Tom Brady isn’t a generational talent; only Elway and Mahomes are.
- Both Deebo and Joe vehemently disagree: “If I’m talking about the position of quarterback… my quarterback, I’m not gonna lie to you, it’s gonna be Tom Brady.” (A/Harrison, 45:40)
- “He gonna walk you down the field and win.” (B/Haden, 45:57)
9. Retirement, Comebacks & Physical Toll (46:13 – 54:50)
- On Amari Cooper’s Sudden Desire to Retire:
- Both understand getting into camp and feeling your body isn’t up to it anymore (47:38).
- Harrison’s Comeback Anecdote:
- Only returned to Pittsburgh because his kids supported it; reflects on the physical pain and recovery process (48:50 – 53:45).
10. Staying in Shape Post-Retirement (53:45 – 54:50)
- Training Regimen:
- Harrison still lifts 5 days a week, does cardio, and focuses on maintenance (54:27).
11. Boxing Legends: Tyson vs. Mayweather? (55:07 – 57:11)
- Rumored Exhibition:
- Both admit they’ll watch Mike Tyson vs. Floyd Mayweather if it happens, but are uncertain about how competitive or meaningful it will be (55:21).
- “Floyd got actual hands…he’s gonna sit there and tag Mike’s ass.” (B/Haden, 56:37)
12. Banter: Podcast Challenges, Powerball, and Relation to Fans (57:11 – End)
- Playful argument about fighting; jokes about Chad Johnson wanting to fight Deebo.
- Powerball Lottery:
- Both share go-to numbers and promise to “look out for subscribers” if they win (59:07 – 61:28).
- Closing Notes:
- Lighthearted, with Deebo reflecting on his relationship with his faith and camaraderie with his co-host.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On NFL Disrespect:
- “If somebody was to spit on me, like, go ahead, get my bail money together. Like, I'm going to jail.” (A/Harrison, 00:29)
- On Team Bonds:
- “When you’re around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work…that’s what makes me know your family.” (B/Haden, 22:07)
- On Leadership:
- “The leadership we need is a guy that played the game… I know all the things that we’re going to, that we've been through.” (A/Harrison, 34:23)
- On Tom Brady Debate:
- “If I’m talking about the position of quarterback…my quarterback, I’m not gonna lie to you, it’s gonna be Tom Brady.” (A/Harrison, 45:40)
- On Retirement:
- “My body was hurting so bad, dude…if it wasn’t for the fact that my daddy told me, you finish what you start, I was gonna give them whatever they wanted to let me get up out of there.” (A/Harrison, 50:01)
- On Jersey Deals:
- “I bought number 23 for 20 bands as a rookie.” (B/Haden, 40:11);
- “He said, three grand… say less here. Cash out my.” (A/Harrison, 42:48)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Jalen Carter Incident & Fallout: 00:29 – 07:27
- Eagles vs Cowboys Breakdown: 07:29 – 16:33
- Cowboys’ Talent & Trades: 15:05 – 18:12
- Micah Parsons/Locker Room Culture: 18:15 – 23:32
- Stefon Diggs & Media: 23:39 – 27:21
- NFLPA Leadership Critique: 27:21 – 38:44
- Jersey Numbers Stories: 38:44 – 43:41
- Tom Brady “Generational Talent?” Debate: 44:20 – 46:13
- Retirement Decisions: 46:13 – 54:50
- Boxing Legends & Banter: 55:07 – end
Language & Tone
- Unfiltered, candid, and humorous, reflecting the authenticity and camaraderie between former NFL players.
- Insightful with behind-the-scenes stories and genuine reflections on physical, professional, and personal challenges.
- Playful and engaging with listeners, peppered with inside jokes, mutual appreciation, and spirited debates.
Summary Takeaway
This episode of Club Shay Shay with Deebo Harrison and Joe Haden captures the raw emotion and reality of NFL life, both on and off the field. From the extreme disrespect of the Jalen Carter–Dak Prescott incident to leadership struggles in the NFLPA, the duo delves beneath the headlines, shares real locker room truths, and entertain with both wisdom and wit. Their dynamic banter and real stories offer fans a seat at the table with two men who know exactly how the league works—and what needs to be fixed.
