← Club Shay Shay
Club Shay Shay
Deebo & Joe - REACTION to MNF: Tyreek Hill injured, Bengals get COOKED, Dolphins finally win
01:00:07
Loading summary
Transcript221 lines
- [00:00]
A
This is an iHeart podcast. Welcome back to Deebo and Joe. I'm your host, James Deebo Harrison and I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. How you doing today, Joe?
- [00:23]
B
I'm doing fine, Debo. But is that real?
- [00:25]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a snake. It's a snake. This snake. It's a representation, man. I wanna. I wanna kind of start the show.
- [00:32]
B
Off with a little.
- [00:34]
A
Little something. So the Bible makes it clear. Money tells a story and so does the company around it. Evil money never walks alone. It always brings evil people with it. Proverbs says one who runs with thieves becomes an accomplice. And the greedy gathering packs plotting together to fill their homes with plunder. Ill gotten gains ties you to crooked company. And in the end, that money destroys both wealth and the people who cling to it. But righteous money has a different crowd. The one who earns with integrity walks with the wise. The one who gives generously attracts friends who bless and uplift better a little with righteousness. Scripture says that great riches within justice. Good money draws people because it builds on. Because it builds on justice, generosity and the fear of the Lord now. So. Amen. Want to know where a man's money comes from? Look at the people around him. If, if his company are liars, cheaters and oppressors, the money is staying with their sin. But if his circle is the wise, the generous and the upright, then the wealth testifies to the goodness of God. And evil money has evil people around it. Good money has good people around it. That is the word. So basically what I'm saying is evil money gathers evil company, but righteous money walks with the wise. Right now I'm not talking about money here, but I'm not. I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about the company you keep. So where I'm going with that, Joe, is that. Where are you going to be on Friday? So Stillers fans, this is what I'm saying to you. I think we have a serpent in our midst.
- [02:56]
B
I think we have someone. No, Debo, this can't be going with all of that good talk of the good words.
- [03:05]
A
No, no, just tell me where you go. Be Joe Friday. Joe.
- [03:10]
B
I'm gonna be doing the cast from good old London. Oh, what? I'm going out. I'm going out to London because the Browns are playing the Vikings. I'm going out there to support Stillers.
- [03:22]
A
Just played over there. Why didn't you said you go both?
- [03:28]
B
I had some. I had Some things going on at the house, you know what I'm saying? And I wasn't able to make that. I wasn't able to make the trip. Same reason why. Go ahead.
- [03:44]
A
Joseph. You're muted. Joseph.
- [03:47]
B
Hold on. My bad. Why weren't you. Why. Why weren't you on island?
- [03:51]
A
I had to make sure that I had to do the show, but I didn't go any. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't go to any other game for another team. I woke up at my normal early time and watch my Steelers whoop on Minnesota.
- [04:10]
B
So did I. So did I. I woke up bright and early, watch the Steelers win that 9:30 game, you know, And I will still be doing the cast out there in London representing the Browns and watching the Steelers. They're not playing against each other, so I'm gonna be giving the Steelers that love, hoping they win. They have a bye week, so they won't even. We won't even have to watch the Steelers. Okay? There's no reason. You know what I'm saying? They're chilling.
- [04:32]
A
They're off. So why didn't you go to see the Steelers over there?
- [04:37]
B
I had some things that I had to handle at the house, you know what I'm saying? Just schedule, conflict of schedules. I would have definitely been out there if I could, you know. I know. Shout out Peasy. He was out there. We talked about golfing together out there. So you ever been.
- [04:50]
A
You ever been over there? You. You ever visited any places over there I've been to?
- [04:55]
B
I just went and played the old course. I went out there last year, so I did some golfing out there with a good crew from Pittsburgh. Some of my good men. We did a trip out there. Probably like 12 of us from my old country, Edgewood in Pittsburgh. So. Yeah. Yeah. So I still keep the good ties out there in Pittsburgh. Great people, great vibes. Didn't go out to Ireland, but, you know, I'm going out to London for the Browns repping, you know what I'm saying? I'm still. It is. You know what it is. I can't believe you put the God's word. I was all in what you were going. Talking about. All money and good money, keeping good people. What's what with the wee wee that we are we.
- [05:34]
A
We.
- [05:34]
B
We are we. We still. Let's have a buy, you know what I'm saying? So we gonna see what the Browns, you know, and like, you know, I can't believe you.
- [05:42]
A
I'm just. I'm just checking. I'M just, I was just came with.
- [05:45]
B
The good word this morning.
- [05:46]
A
You came out the good word, good word. You always, always can be. Can be used and you know, related. I was just saying because it was just, you know, he was, that was crazy too.
- [05:57]
B
You came in with a snake. Okay, you know we're gonna leave you. I thought we was better than this.
- [06:01]
A
We're gonna just go ahead and, you know, we're gonna jump into this, to this Miami game. You know what I'm saying, man, we had it. Be your own people, man. It be your own people, man. So the Dolphins beat the Jets 27 to 21. Game wasn't exactly as close as it did. They kind of kept it competitive. First drive, I think Miami, they, they get a field goal and then New York drives all the way down there. And I believe it was Jones. He fumbled on the gold line, Bruh.
- [06:40]
B
Recovered by my young man.
- [06:42]
A
Yeah, yeah, Mika got that thing. And then Miami 96 yards, bruh, and converted on a fourth down. That was a touchdown to, to go ahead and finish that drive. Then New York, dude, New York gets going and they get another fumble. Miami recovers it. They got lucky this time. It was no points on that one.
- [07:13]
B
They had a lot of self inflicted wounds. They had three. And especially when you're the Jets, I'm not gonna lie. Justin Fields, he did good using his legs, making some great passes. But end of the day, he fumbled the ball in the red zone territory. They fumbled the ball going in right there. The running back when he punched it out. And then on special teams, they turned the ball over too. So when you turn the ball over like that, you're not good enough to overcome those turnovers. They still did good on the running game. They damn near ran for 200 yards, you know what I'm saying? Bryce Hall, Justin Fields, they did really good, you know what I'm saying? Running using their leg.
- [07:47]
A
Yeah, they kept it close. I mean, you know, halftime, it was three to 10. But they opened the second half, half and dude fumbles the kickoff return, you know, right there and now it's, it's, you know, it's 17 to 3.
- [08:02]
B
Self inflicted question, dude.
- [08:04]
A
Like no question. New York went on ahead and the special teams, they came through for him, so they were able to go ahead and he broke one for about 40, 45 yards on that scramble. So it was still 17 to 10. It was close right then and there.
- [08:21]
B
Oh, that play was crazy.
- [08:22]
A
I thought, I'm like, there's no way he's gonna, he's gonna make it all. It was like Tecmo Bowl. You know how Techno ball used to do techno? Yes, yes. Out of control, man.
- [08:32]
B
And yeah, that looked like a Michael Vick run. It's not too many quarterbacks that can do that, like Lamar him, you know what I'm saying? That his athletic ability. So that was, that was. That was good to put that on display.
- [08:42]
A
Yeah. And then, you know, Miami Tariqi ended up getting hurt. But in that same, you know, that same possession, then I was. Sorry, the. That's like. Yeah. The same possession New York end up committing, was it three penalties, two that were actually accepted was one pass interference and unnecessary rustmas. That gave them a first down when I believe they had stopped them on third, allowed them to score. Go up 24 to 10. The offense.
- [09:15]
B
Do you want to get into that Tyreek Hill now? Because that was a little. That was. That was egregious.
- [09:21]
A
I think he, you know, that's just one of them situations, dude, where you're trying to, like, stop yourself. He was trying to stop himself and really fall. Yeah. And it just. We don't exactly know how bad it is. I believe he's has a surgery today. They say it's dislocated knee, right?
- [09:42]
B
Yeah, but I think it's. I. I don't know for sure, but yeah, I think. Yeah, Yeah, I think he said it was an acl.
- [09:49]
A
Oh, is it?
- [09:49]
B
Oh, yeah, I think it is, brother.
- [09:52]
A
Ah, he got the ligaments too. That's.
- [09:54]
B
That's bad, dude.
- [09:56]
A
Yeah, that's bad.
- [09:58]
B
When I was looking at it, brother, it just was at the end of the day, you know how that is when you out there playing those injuries and seeing your leg like that. I've never had an injury where I've been able to, like, look at my leg and be in a disabled spot, you know what I'm saying? That could just be a lot of emotions, a lot of stuff going through your mind. Like it's shock, you know what I'm saying? It could probably put your body in the shock, you not knowing what's going on. So when I seen him going off, kind of like clapping, saying, yes, he could be doing that for thank the Lord that I'm still alive, you know what I'm saying? It could be a lot worse. My whole leg could have came off, you know what I'm saying? So just a lot of emotions, a lot of things just really kind of running through your head at that particular moment. So just prayers out to him and you never want to see anybody out There because you never know kind of what they're going through, what's going through their mind. And if your leg, to look down at it and see it. I don't know, I would, I have a weak stomach. I would have played it. I would probably. I would have passed right out.
- [10:53]
A
No, dude, I did a, I did a hike one time and I didn't want to look down because it, it. I thought my ankle was twisted the other way. I'm like, yeah, I'm not looking down. So I waited for him to get on the field and finally look down. I'm like, I'm like, yo. Where there's like, no, it's straight.
- [11:10]
B
Is it the right way?
- [11:11]
A
It's like, yeah, it's good. I'm like, no, it was, it was just a high ankle spray. It was a bad one though. I like had to wear a cast for like two weeks and then another, you know, whatever it was. But to actually look down and see that he grabbed that thing, I'm like, yeah, I'm with you. I'm not even looking. Somebody gonna have to tell me, oh.
- [11:28]
B
My God, somebody got to tell me something.
- [11:31]
A
Yeah, no question. Just got some real issues though. Like, you know, you got three turnovers to, you know, you can't, you can't do nothing with three turnovers. Even though the jets out game Miami 400 to 300, something like that. 190 like you said. 197 rushing, 220 passing. Like that was almost, you know, Miami's total offense, you know what I'm saying? They even had more first downs, dude, 23 to 19. They had a better third down percentage. Like it was 44 to 33. Like. But the penalties though. The penalties, the penalties. Only had two drives, I believe, where they didn't have, you know, a penalty on it. And I believe one was a touchdown and the other ended up being a three and out.
- [12:24]
B
Like a lot of that stuff. You can't, you can't win like that. Those self inflicted wounds, like you said, gaining all those yards, getting down into the red zone, being able to run the ball in that, in that manner and not being able to score points, being able to have two turnovers in the red zone. Those are 14, those could be 14 points, you know what I'm saying? On the board, you eliminated, you didn't get field goals out of it. You got nothing. So you playing against a team where you're gaining yards, you're, you're moving the ball. Defense wasn't playing as, I mean Defense is playing better than they were because you got 400 yards against them. They got 300 and some yards, but both defenses weren't playing too well. But you got to convert and you got to score when you're in the red zone, because that's. And then when you don't and you turn the ball over, that's how you're going to lose those games.
- [13:05]
A
Yeah, yeah. Just issues. At what point is this maybe a, a coaching thing? I'm just, you know, you know, sometimes what you allow in practice is, is what ends up, you know, happening in games like teams that don't tackle well usually don't practice and tackle well. Teams, you know, teams that get a lot of holding penalties, you know, offensive line defense, whatever that may be, they, they get away with it in practice, you know what I'm saying? Um, I think it's something, you know, that has to be, you know, going on. I mean, this is not an issue one game. This has been something that has been going on for the last four games. So at, you know, at what point do you start questioning, you know, is this something that is just being allowed and when you get into a game, you no longer, you know, now you're having to pay for it because it was maybe allowed at practice. What do you think?
- [14:02]
B
Yeah, I think because it's fumbles, you know what I'm saying? With this particular game, it was ball security. It was a fumble on the kickoff return, it was Justin Fields getting stripped of with a fumble. And then it was the running back going into the end zone, diving in and getting fumbled. So that's a ball security thing. I think that's just like you said, they have to practice ball security. Justin Fields has to know that he's not throwing, throwing picks like that. So that's a good situation. But just knowing when you get people around you, when you have guys running and stripping at the ball, when you. We can't be losing the ball like that. Same thing with the kickoff returner, same thing with the ball handler. It's not really a, like an interception job. It's really a ball security thing. So I know what you're saying with coach, you gotta coach that up. You gotta make sure.
- [14:43]
A
I'm talking about penalties, I'm talking about the pre snap in snap penalties. I don't. The turnovers is something that, like you said, that's, that's gonna, you know, that's something that you're gonna have to do in, in, in the moment and you could do it at practice, but you can't do it to that level. But you're talking about pre snap, you're talking about false starts, you're talking about holdings, you're talking about, you know, illegal form, things like that. That.
- [15:05]
B
Yeah, that's a code. Those, those, those things, those things are coaching things. I was talking to turnovers right there. That's just something that, you know, can't really be. But the pre snap penalties, all of that. Yeah, that is a coaching thing. If it's not, if you're accepted, you can't allow it to happen. Those dudes can't be playing. It seems like something that they have to make that an emphasis at practice because are they getting off, Are they getting. Are they get jumping off sides at practice, you know what I'm saying? I, I'm not in there huddle, but I, I know what you're saying. Like they gotta figure, figure that out.
- [15:35]
A
Yeah, for sure. Something. Something definitely has to be done. So the bongos. I mean the Bangles. Sorry, man. The. The Bengals lost to the Broncos 28 to 3. The Bengals got, got beat like a red. Yeah, man, like freshly.
- [15:55]
B
They got work.
- [15:56]
A
That, that whole thing was, that was not, not cute, brother. I think, brother go.
- [16:05]
B
What you think?
- [16:05]
A
Dude, it was hell. It was a blowout from the start, you know. Yeah. They got a field goal on the first drive, which was I believe 65 yards of, you know, the total of 159 offense that they had. And then Denver went on to score. Was it 28 unanswered? Cincinnati only completed. I think it was two third downs, stacking up penalties, you know, like squirrels store nuts, bruh. Offense can't protect the quarterback. They can't run the ball. On top of that, you, you put your quarterback in shotgun all night. When you put him in shotgun all night and your offense can't block, that gives me a half second more to have to determine that. Oh, you're not even running the ball now I get to pin my ears back and just take off. He sacked what, three times, pressured multiple times. And the quarterback you have right now is not the gunslinger that, you know, Burrow is. He's not going to be able to just sit back there and, and pick somebody apart. You know, you add on top of that the defense, they out there for 80 plays. Offense only had 43 plays. They couldn't convert nothing. You know, the defense couldn't stop a nosebleed. Them boys gave up over 500 yards. They let Bo Nix get. Was it 320, 326. Two tugs he had well, he did have a pick. They still gave up 180, 85, 86 rushing. And then the boy Dobbins, he, He went for 101 on only 16 carries. He over six yard a carry. Dude, no pass. Russ. I think they only hit the quarterback one time.
- [18:03]
B
Bro. It was from the Broncos perspective. They look great. B Knicks was out there. He looked amazing. Besides that pick that he threw when they were up 14 to 3. And I thought that if he would have just scored right there and made it 21 to 3, I, that was his only big hiccup for me that he did the whole game. Everything else using his legs, creating on third down, throwing it to court. And Sutland, the biggest thing for me too was right before half when he did throw that pick, they came back and he threw that whole shot on to Sims. The 28 yard dot right in between the underneath corner and the overtop safety. And then the next and then on third and two going in right before halftime with about 20 some seconds left, he threw that bang eight where suddenly widened out and then he looked off the safety like a great quarterb does and then dropped it, drilled it right on the money for a touchdown going into halftime. And I was like way to just answer. From throwing the pick and coming back and throwing the touchdown, he looked comfortable. The running game was looking good. Cortland Sutland was going to work on my man for the Bengals. That was that corner number 29. He had a long day, but they just looked like, they were just, they looked smooth.
- [19:13]
A
When you ain't got no pass rush, you ain't you, you, you getting little resistance, you know what I'm saying? They're running the ball. You know, when you, you, you can.
- [19:21]
B
Only, you can only perform to who you're playing against. You can't make. That's not their bad that they going against some dudes that aren't.
- [19:26]
A
Well, he had a career so the, the, the defense, you know, helped that, you know, it's when you just have your career day, it's, it's a little, you know, we'll see how he proceeds going forward. But I, I, I think the defense helped him a lot with the lack of being able to do anything. To be honest.
- [19:49]
B
It was, it was good, it was good. But you, you, it was good. It was good Broncos and bad Bengals.
- [19:55]
A
It could be both. I same time.
- [19:57]
B
You know what I'm saying? So I think that the like you said, the Bengals terrible tackling like being them being able to just consistently create on make, make plays on third downs. But like you said too, when your offense isn't helping you at all, when you have so many p. Pre snap postnap penalties where they're just flags throwing all over the place, 13 flags for 101 yards, you're not, I mean, I mean for a lot, you're not going to win like that. Especially when you can't create any sort of third downs or keeping the ball creating more drives. So I mean, then they had Jamar Chase and Higgins out there.
- [20:35]
A
They couldn't get him the ball. Joe Burrow. They ain't got your Burrow right there. Dude like that.
- [20:40]
B
That's, that's, that's an issue.
- [20:42]
A
That's, that's a huge issue. You know what I'm saying? Especially everything is built around him. And when you don't have that, this, this is the type of performance you get. But as you say, Denver did play. So we go end up getting a chance to see that next week when Denver goes to Philly in Philly and we go see what the defense and offense do, then that'll give us a measuring, you know, a measuring stick of, you know, was it as bad Bengals or as good Denver Good? Yep, yep.
- [21:14]
B
Always good to see because, you know, like you said, they're gonna be able to carry it into the next week. And like you said, going against a good team like the Eagles, we see is that, is that run game with J.K. dobbins gonna look like that is bonus gonna still be able to be as creative. Is Courtland Sutton gonna be able to get off like he was versus a good Philly defense, you know what I'm saying? Are they going to be able to like they didn't really go against a offense that week. So with them having 153 total yards, three points, let's see what they do against Philly. Are they going to stop Saquon? They gonna stop Jalen Hurts, you know what I'm saying? A.J. brown, Devontae Smith, it's going to be a way bigger test, you know what I'm saying? When they go against a real team. So I know what you're saying. But when they get into the stadium, let's see what they do versus.
- [21:54]
A
Oh yeah, sure. What do you think the Bangles should do? You think they should. Depending on how long they're going to be without Burrow, if it's going to be an extended period, you think they need to find somebody to play quarterback, try and pick something up before the trade deadline, see if somebody will trade.
- [22:12]
B
I Mean, if they want to do something that they want to stay, if they want to stay relevant and they want to try to continue to win games. Because I don't think this for me, in my opinion, no, I mean, the Bengals, they, they don't. Doesn't look good for them. Joe Burrow is going to be, I think with this toe, if he's going to be out for extended period of.
- [22:29]
A
Time, maybe December, something like that, man.
- [22:33]
B
So, yes, they, they're not going to win more enough games to be even in the playoff picture. So I think they should rest up. Joe Burrow definitely try to. If they want to try to win games and even have a chance to bring this year, you got to get a better quarterback because that's not going to work. What you got going on right now, you're not running the ball well. Your offensive line isn't getting any better. So no matter who you bring in, they probably going to get hit upside the head also. So I don't think. I think the Bengals have a lot more problems than they have answers. And if you're just trying to bring in another quarterback to try to salvage this season until Joe Burrow comes back, because in the long term, Joe Burrow doesn't need to come back. If they're in 3 and 10 by the time he comes back mathematically eliminated, he gonna bring him back to get hit up again, work on getting that line. Hopefully trying to get a run game, something like that. But in this recent future, there's no answers of fixing the bangles right now.
- [23:24]
A
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta correct the other issues before you put something in there as a fix it. You gotta everything else fixed before you plug in something that you, you believe can help you win because you got too many other. You got too many other holes.
- [23:42]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [23:43]
A
Jim Harbaugh said on Sunday, Sunday night that he wouldn't comment on whether Lamar could have came back into the game or not. So they gave him another chance, I guess. On Monday, Harbaugh said there's no way he was going back in the game. The injury precluded it. It was no way he could go back in the game. I know Lamar. I can assure you he would have been. I can assure you if he would not have been able to go back in the game under any circumstances. What do you think? You think he would have went back in? I think he would have went back in if they was close.
- [24:27]
B
I think they would. I think it would have went back in if they was close for sure. I mean, the Game, it means too much.
- [24:33]
A
I don't know. We'll see. It depends if he play next week. If he play next week, he could have went back in the game. If you don't play next week, then he couldn't went back into the game. Because it's not one of those things where it's like, okay, I could go back into the game, I can make it through, or I couldn't go back into the game and then I'm down that next week too. Then, yeah, that's a really couldn't get back into the game circumstance did where they didn't want to, you know, take a chance of making it worse. Because the way Lamar plays the game, hamstring is not something he can, you know, he can go into a game with. Cause he runs the ball a lot. He uses his legs to, you know, make people miss and do fast. And when you hit a gear on a, you know, a partially healed up hamstring, that thing is go pop even worse than it did the first time.
- [25:24]
B
Dude, you gotta let them hamstrings fully heal because you and I weren't messing with it. And you, like you said, letting it really go. And that's one. That's Lamar's strength. That's his thing, like the fear of him being able to take off on you, him being that, that that other weapon on the field. Cause his arm obviously is amazing. But Lamar's dual threat of him being able to take off on you, if you playing man to man in the backs of turn, he could take it to the house. So him being able to know like end of the day that hamstring, I need to be at full strength, running full speed and if I do come out there playing around with it, I could be gone for an extended period of time. Yeah, it's nothing to play with.
- [26:00]
A
Yeah, for sure. Harbaugh also took off on the Ravens offensive approach and play calling on Lamar's interception. He said it wasn't a good call. It wasn't a play where we put our guys in the right position in that situation. I'm not happy with it at all. None of us are. They ran a double backer blitz inside where they were right in Lamar's face. We had downfield routes with no checkdowns. That kills your drive. You're moving the ball right down the field. So no, I don't like the play call at all. He went on to say that they asked him if the Chiefs if they were prepared for the Chief's blitz. He said, I don't I don't think our approach was was. He said, I don't think our approach was good. We didn't stick to the plan we had. We had an idea of how we wanted to approach their defense and we didn't stick to it. And I'm not happy about it. And neither is anybody. None of our coaches are happy about it. Especially I'm talking about the coaches right now that's with us. It was not a good job. What is your reaction to hardball statements right here? What are you reading?
- [27:27]
B
Yes, it's this one. I'm trying to figure out who. So is he, is he taking blame for. Is he calling the plays or is he blaming the offensive coordinator? That's why I want to ask. That's my question to you.
- [27:40]
A
The question is he said that the offensive approach in play calling, that means he's talking about the offensive coordinator, the guy that is calling the offense, that is putting the plays in Lamar's ear, telling them what to do, giving them. Yeah, you know, you're trying to get some type of groove going. He's talking about him.
- [28:06]
B
So what he's saying is he's throwing him under the bus. He's saying, listen, look, my office coordinator is not giving us putting us in the position in the team in position to win. Those dudes were not prepared. Ill prepared. What do you. Is that what he's saying or am I tripping?
- [28:22]
A
No, you're not tripping. What's the Ravens record, 1 and 3, right?
- [28:32]
B
I think so, yes.
- [28:33]
A
Right now you're on a 1 and 3 Ravens team who is supposed to be in the top, you know, three, four teams in the league, this powerhouse and now you are one and three quarter of the way through the season. I am reading this as a head coach who is trying to get it ready to save his job. As you know what, I had a problem with this. Although I did hire you. I let you run your offense and call it the way you wanted to and I'm not happy with it right now and I want everybody to know I'm not happy with it so that if this goes all the way downhill, you will be my fall guy. We don't care that the defense is giving up anything or everything. I should say we're going to go with what he's seeing over here and how he feels about it. And this right here is a setup for if this don't get turned around the office don't start looking like the offense, they're going to be the fall guy. He the old Coordinator is going to be the fall guy.
- [30:00]
B
Man, Debo, that's exactly. We, we, we seeing the same thing that just happened. Like when things aren't going well, they're supposed to be number one in the afc, they're supposed to be leaving, they're supposed to be on.
- [30:12]
A
Hey, now, don't forget, you just gave the old coordinator a new contract. What was it, February? March?
- [30:18]
B
And. But this is the part of that I'm saying too, how when Lamar Jackson's numbers aren't. Aren't that bad. You know what I'm saying? This game was. This game wasn't that good. This game was the worst game that they had. On the offensive side of defense has been the main reason why they haven't been successful. I'm trying to figure out why would you come throw out your offensive coordinator like this when your defense has been playing like trash league. Bad. Historically bad. Historically bad. You know what I'm saying? And then you gonna come out at the offensive coordinator. You're definitely honest. When he did make a couple of bad calls, you letting people know, put eyes on him, like, making sure, like, this is not the way. Like, no, you did not put our players in position to win. That's definitely making a scapegoat. But I'm like, he's just setting up another scapegoat because you already got one. If you want to really throw it to the defensive side, like, that's.
- [31:06]
A
No, no, that's a little harder. I think that's a little harder for him, maybe, as he being a player's coach is. If I call out the defensive side, it ain't about scheme. It's about we getting missed tackles, missed assignments. We just getting in the pushed around, ran through. Now you talking directly to the players, to your.
- [31:29]
B
Yeah, yeah. Not your individual players. No. Okay, maybe for him. I got you.
- [31:33]
A
It's easier for him to get rid of an OC rather than lose the.
- [31:39]
B
Whole defense because the defense, like I just said, like, when what's my man Hamilton was saying, you can't put it on the coach, the defensive coach, because we're in the position, we just not making the plays. We're not just communicating. Right. But on the offensive side, when you're not making schemes the right way, but like the numbers are good, you can put it on the offensive coordinator. Like, nah, he's just the plays and he just didn't have us in particular systems when we needed to. He's picking and choosing. Okay, I can see it. I can see.
- [32:07]
A
Right. Like, well, you got A case where the player already took the, the finger off of the D coordinator. Listen, the defense works. We're just not going out there and executing it right. We're not being where we're supposed to be. That's on us. Ain't nobody on offense said the play calling is great. You know, it's, it's nothing wrong with it. We just gotta execute. Nah. Nah. So it's a, it's enough, you know, here and there that, you know what? This ain't going good. Offense ain't living up to what we think they should live up to because of the play calling, not because of the people we got. When he doing good, he doing good. You know, like you said, the play calling at the end of the, the very first game, you know, with, with Buffalo, it did not, it did not equate to what they were doing beginning. And like you said, playing to not lose, not playing the win, not playing to stump their lights out, put up 50 on them if you can. You know, he started, he started playing conservative, doing things that he didn't do to get to where he was at. And, you know, of course you got Josh Allen, like I said, but it allowed them the opportunity to come back and win that game.
- [33:34]
B
No, for sure, you right now, I mean, defense, like you said, if we know we got on, oh, let's go, let's go. Let's just be historically great. When we do have Lamar, when we do have Derrick Henry, you should be able to scheme that up to make our offense top tier. And if we're not, I'm going to blame that on you. Defense right now, it's not to play calling. Our individual players need to perform better. They had and they know that. They've said that. It's not the coaches, not the scheme, it's the players. But I, I see exactly what he's talking about right there. How Harbo is trying to, you know what I'm saying, put that on them. But at the same time, like you said, I've seen, we've seen where they need to play not to lose in the win and be able to try to stomp people out instead of like slowing it down, changing it up, getting vanilla. No, run the scoreboard up. You know what I'm saying? When you can. And there's been situations where they haven't, they start playing a little different. They don't know how to control the lead or not even control it. Extend the lead, keep a lead, be able to expand leads.
- [34:27]
A
Yeah, definitely. Since you're going over There. To London's. Over there in. In Dublin. He said some interesting comments about Steelers fans at the Dublin game. He talked about the environment, saying it was incredible. It might be a little. It might. It might get a little heat, but it was kind of different than being at home. They were into the whole game. Every single third down, we can hear them. And he's saying. He's saying the fans. He's saying, y'. All. Still, his fans don't get as hype as the Dublin fan. Still, the fans do. So do we need to step up our game? We definitely need to step up our game. It'd be kind of quiet at them games. Of course, they'd be playing renegade at the wrong time and everything else. I understand that messes up your mojo, but what do you. What do you take or what do you find interesting about these comments, brother?
- [35:30]
B
I think sometimes, you know, when you go out, when you go over the. When you go out of the country, I think a lot of teams, they're just very, very excited and they appreciate, you know, they don't get all of the games. So it's like a Super Bowl. You're not just getting Steelers fans, you're getting a bunch of different. Everybody's wearing different jerseys. Everybody's just coming out there just to support the game of football. And I think sometimes, maybe in some Steelers games, I mean, they could probably just get a little. A little comfortable, a little relaxed. And I seen some of these, like just season ticket holders in the regular. In the regular sections. Have you seen the videos where people are. Don't really like the fans standing up.
- [36:12]
A
Comfortable standing up that they may actually have. I'm not sure this. If someone knows, let me know. But I think they don't want you standing because you would be blocking the view of the person behind.
- [36:26]
B
And that. That is. That is. I. I definitely heard. I definitely heard that too.
- [36:30]
A
Yeah.
- [36:31]
B
So do you think. Is. Is that a rule?
- [36:34]
A
I don't know if it's a rule. That's something that we would have. That's something that we would have to.
- [36:42]
B
Check out, that we have to look at.
- [36:43]
A
Yeah.
- [36:44]
B
Because, I mean, because, you know this. I've never really been going to games like that, but I've always seen, like, if people stand up in the crowd, it's kind of like if you stand up, you blocking somebody else and then they kind of stand up. But over there, I think it's just a different environment. Like, everybody's hype and you're just standing up kind of the whole game. You Know what I'm saying? Showing that you're kind of into it, cheering, being involved. I think more of when you watching this, it's just some things are more.
- [37:11]
A
Just like, no rules against it, but they say it's etiquette, you know, respect, you know, the. The other. You know, consideration of other people around you, all that. So there's no rules against it. So, Stiller fans, you can stand up at the game and cheer, and if you know the person behind you tell you to sit down, you tell them to stand up so you can see and you won't have a problem. Get into the game. Stop sitting there like a. Like a. Like a. Yeah, like a. Like a lump. Oh, my goodness. Boo. Where you don't go in my shirt.
- [37:46]
B
Oh, See, Depot. You gotta get control of that.
- [37:48]
A
He hot right now. So he moving. Like, he moving, moving, man, he tripping.
- [37:54]
B
Hey, how do you feel about it?
- [37:56]
A
Do you think.
- [37:59]
B
What do you think he was saying?
- [38:00]
A
He was lost in my house for six months. No. How so? My son opened the. The cage door to show somebody. He obviously didn't close it all the way, right?
- [38:14]
B
Yeah.
- [38:15]
A
So I get the call, snake gone, Kevin gone. I'm like, what you mean he's gone? He's like, he ain't in there. He left. I'm like, all right, just look around the house. So I. When I get back home, man, I'm. I'm tossing the house up, man. I'm looking under every couch. I'm looking everywhere, man. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, dude, like, he go die in a wall, he gonna start stinking. Like, you know, I'm. I'm thinking about that. I don't. I didn't. Gave up. I didn't. Gave up the search. I didn't. Tossed up every couch, everything, dude. I didn't. I didn't cut the lining underneath the house upside down my couches to see if he in there. You know what I'm saying?
- [38:53]
B
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- [38:54]
A
So I can't find.
- [38:56]
B
You got a snake in the crib.
- [38:57]
A
And I'm sitting there and I'm looking at the cage. He got. He got a snake cage over there. And I'm looking. I'm like, yo, I need to get rid of this cage, you know, make some room, whatever. I got a little reptile room. I got a bearded dragon in there with him.
- [39:08]
B
But. But look, but this is what I'm trying to tell you. When you didn't find the snake, you just thought the snake was gone in your house.
- [39:15]
A
I thought he had maybe went downstairs and got outside or something, you know, whatever it may be. So I don't. I done gave up searching for him though. And I'm sitting there and I hear the. This is about six months later, dude. I'm sitting there and I hear the blinds like wiggle. I didn't know it was the blinds. So I get up at like 3, between 3 and 4 o', clock, depending on the day. And as I'm about to leave, before I go to the gym, I do all my Bible reading, everything else. And I'm sitting there and I heard what I thought was paper hit the floor, right? And I'm like, that's crazy. So I look into my, you know, I look into the reptile room, like, ah, maybe some paper fell on the floor. I don't pay no attention to it. So I'm putting my shoes on and I'm going to walk out the door and I hear the blinds go. I'm like, oh my God. I think that's Kevin, right? So I walk over there, I think that's. And this dude is in the blinds like this, bumping the blinds. And I'm like, yo, this is crazy. This is.
- [40:31]
B
Brother. How often do you feed the snake? How did it survive without getting. No, does it have to eat?
- [40:38]
A
Listen, I just fed him yesterday. He ate. He ate four mice. So they can go months and I mean maybe a year without eating. Dude, you know my.
- [40:51]
B
Okay, okay, okay.
- [40:52]
A
My ortho, My orthodontist I went to told me a story where, you know, he had somebody that lost one for almost nine months and they ended up lifting the bed up, cleaning in between the mattress and the box spring. He was laying there still alive.
- [41:08]
B
See, no, there's one thing about me, Debo, I'm. I'm not a fan. I can't do none of that. I can't do snakes, I can't do reptiles. I can't do none of that.
- [41:17]
A
I'm doing all that, man. I used to have a. I used to have a ten foot. Well, when I got rid of him, he was almost 11ft. Burmese python. And the only reason I got rid of him is because I was a little nervous then. I was like when I was in college and you know, at 10ft, they got the ability to go ahead and tap you out. So.
- [41:35]
B
Yeah, they, they. He get the land. He get the land right next to you, sizing you up.
- [41:39]
A
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't, I don't leave him off the case. I ain't Crazy like that. No, I had clip locked on the cage and all that, dude. Yeah, I can't. I can't have him popping out on me like that. Like. Listen, anyway, man, if you go to the game, stand up. If you want to sit down, sit on your couch at home. We don't need you there. We need some people that's gonna be rowdy and excited and making noise. All right.
- [42:12]
B
That'S what I'm talking about. I mean, that's what I'm talking about. I was. If. I mean it. I. If you. If it's. If. If you have some leg deficient. If you're the. If you're. If you. If it's gonna be. If you're. If you're older, I can see. You know what I'm saying? Respectful. That's what I'm saying. It's more of a. Like a respectful thing. If we was gonna stand up because it's time to get loud and, like, we just trying to cheer, then.
- [42:34]
A
Yeah, don't just stand there. You know what I'm saying? For no reason.
- [42:37]
B
Just be. To be standing there. Just. It's a timeout. You just standing up, just all in people's way. You know what I'm saying? Some of you. We chilling. We're chilling. But, like, just know that's what he's saying. Like on third down, when you know when to turn up and you know when to be quiet. Not when the offense is on third down. We like, yeah, let's go tonight.
- [42:54]
A
No, it's quiet time.
- [42:55]
B
Be quiet. This is quiet.
- [42:57]
A
The quarterback doing this, he wants y' all to be quiet. Now when. When the defense on the field make all the noise.
- [43:02]
B
You won't make all the noise.
- [43:03]
A
Play all the Renegades, y' all want. Yes.
- [43:08]
B
It's smart cheering. Smart noise, definitely.
- [43:14]
A
We got. We got Austin Genty. He went on back. He went on back to us to his stance. Went on back to the Halloween stance. He Carol loved it. He loved it. He said, nope, that's not it. So.
- [43:35]
B
Why they call it the Halloween?
- [43:37]
A
Stand there, straight up like. Like Michael Myers, you know, like how Michael Myers stand there and then he run. He run your ass down. You know, when you done took off 150 yards and he just walking and get you. I don't know, time travel or something. I don't know how he be getting to him, though, bro.
- [43:55]
B
This one up. How do you. How do you feel about it? They said no.
- [43:58]
A
He went. He went crazy.
- [44:00]
B
Was it Chip that told him not to do the stands?
- [44:02]
A
Yeah. Dude, it was. It was Chip Kelly that. That. That told him not to do the stands. I don't know. I guess for me, personally, I understand where he's going with it. You know, Chip Kelly was the main person that, you know, advised him to, you know, change his stance. You know, he said it's a bent knee game. You know, I understand where he's going with it, and I understand the approach. I tell my kids the same thing, like, why are you sitting there standing up like your knees need to be bent? Because that's one less move you got to make to take off. So I understand that, but for him, obviously, it's. It's not. It's not what, you know, it's not what makes him comfortable. He's a guy that. He's done that his whole life, his whole career. I don't, you know, I don't see it being Chip Kelly, you know, trying to take control and, and make guys do things that, you know, they. They don't want to do or don't like, or him just trying to be controlling of their situation. I don't think it's. It's over coaching. I think it's the game. Like, do you think it's a example of him, you know, being overcoaching players or. Or, you know, being like, everything has to be his way or no way?
- [45:34]
B
I think this one in particular is a little tough, you know what I'm saying? Because him standing straight up like that, if you were to look at like you want. I always think about just. Just from coaching, when you first started playing the game, you were tall, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, bent knee game, like, you don't like football position, you know what I'm saying? You got to just like get down and bent and get ready to move because it kind of takes away one movement. If he's already going to go from standing straight up to bending down to moving, then that's the thing. But I think on this, I understand what the coach is saying, but I only look at it a little bit where, when you get to the NFL by this time, you've been doing something in a way that's your way that's got you to be who you are and why you're here. Once we. To this level, if he's not blocking a person, if he's not getting his job done, then we make changes. But let that man.
- [46:24]
A
Yes.
- [46:24]
B
You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not gonna go change his. The way I press because this is the way I've been pressing. I'm in the league. You can show me a different technique, coach. But if my press is, like, I'm comfortable, like, don't get me uncomfortable, because now I'm in the league, I'm drafted, and you telling me to do something different than the way that got me here, like, that's just my only thing. Like, don't. If he's not effective and he's not doing, like, crazy, like, not picking up blocks or not getting off, then there's something to be coached. But let that man stand and let him go get the rock and do what he has to do on that part, because now he's in the league, he's comfortable. Just don't make him uncomfortable. And if he's. If he's comfortable there and being able to get the job done, then let that man cook.
- [47:05]
A
You know what I'm saying? No question about it. That's like, you know, trying to change the dudes, you know, shot in the NBA once he goes pro. Like, you're trying to change his form, his shot, his comfort level. You can't. You can't do that. This is where he's comfortable at. This is where he feels more powerful at. You know, I can see, you know, if he went in doing it and he didn't have success his first three games, he changed it up to what they wanted, and he struggled getting it going. He said, you know what? I don't feel comfortable. It's not really working for me. Let me see how I feel, how I play when I get into the position that I'm used to playing in for the last, you know, umpteen years that I've been playing this game. And he came through and he. Dude, he ran that rock. So, you know, I don't. Like I said, I see it as him initially, Chip, just trying to, you know, make sure he was in a position. Like, okay, maybe if he's in this position, it would be even better. But again, yeah, you can't. You know, it's a little different when you're talking about changing the NBA player shot, because that's.
- [48:10]
B
That.
- [48:10]
A
That's it. But, you know, a stance, you're thinking from bent knees to. To straight up shouldn't change money. It may. It may make you more effective. You know, I don't, you know, you.
- [48:21]
B
Know, at it, James, you. You. Are you getting the job done? You know what I'm saying? Like, can you do the job? I don't give a damn how you stand. I don't give it what's going on. If you're getting the job done, you're getting the job done. That's all that matters. So, respectfully, if you're. If you are teaching you football, you don't want kids. It's like, that's just not a natural. Like always. Like, you know, just from little. It's bent knee. So you kind of want to be in a football position, being ready to go. But when you talk about Ashton Jensen, this man knows what he's playing. He knows he's in a R. He knows he's playing a football game. He's standing up, about to get that pill, and when he's toting it, he's not standing straight up. And he understands that. So let that man cook. I think if it's a stance, you know what I'm saying?
- [49:01]
A
With Chips way, he averaged, I think, 3.1 yards of carry on 47 attempts. But since changing his stance on Sunday, he went for a record. 155, 139, 138. Sorry. On the ground. And three touchdowns, two receiving and one and one rushing. These braces be killing me, bro. After the game, Genti said, that's how I naturally feel. Good standing in the backfield. So that's how I'm going to play.
- [49:35]
B
Amen, Genti. You run, you stand just like that. Straight up. Straight up.
- [49:41]
A
Yeah. To be honest, dude, I don't. I don't know if I would have gave him three games, I might have gave him two and then been like, yo, this ain't. This ain't. This ain't the same, baby.
- [49:54]
B
I love it, though. He coachable. He coachable. He tried. He tried to coach his way. He listened. He did his thing. But now he's like, all right, coach. Now I'm wanting to go ahead and stand straight. Straight up and. And hoop out. I'm gonna give you 155 and three tugs. Standing straight up.
- [50:07]
A
155. Three tug. And I'm gonna give you a little something. A little something in the passing game.
- [50:12]
B
Come on.
- [50:14]
A
I don't. I don't have. Yeah, it's working. He can't say nothing now. Like, it is what it is, bro. Hey, yo, who's your. Who's your. Who's your defense player of the week, bro.
- [50:30]
B
Oh, my goodness. My defensive MVP probably got the same Hooper. Oh, I got Kevin Byard, the safety for the safety for the Chicago Bears. My man had two picks versus Geno Smith in the first half. He had seven tackles and a tackle for loss. But it's about the way that he had his picks. They weren't just like, he fell into the picks, like in the right place at the right time. He read Geno Smith like a book. Twice, same route, deep daggers. He's the middle field safety just backing up. Boom. Playing Geno. And like, soon as he sees that, he's breaking on the ball, hands, catches the ball, makes great plays. So it's not even just that. Some people you get picks because you're in the right place, the right time. Oh, lucky. He made great plays. Reading the quarterback, reading his eyes like a book. Two great picks in the first half. And I think those turnovers is what helped them be able to win the game. Kevin by it.
- [51:32]
A
Kevin Byer. Shout out.
- [51:35]
B
Good.
- [51:35]
A
Everything good. Play good. Say good. Hey, what they say? You. You.
- [51:42]
B
They pay good.
- [51:43]
A
Yes, if you play good, they pay good.
- [51:48]
B
Debo. So look who you have for your defensive mvp. Did you have one?
- [51:52]
A
I didn't have a defensive mvp, but I did have a defensive player and.
- [51:59]
B
Oh, you would like.
- [52:02]
A
You know. You know, I got like a whole team, though, you know what I'm saying? What you mean like a whole team of defensive players. I'm just gonna give it to the whole.
- [52:18]
B
Oh, I'm just gonna give it to the whole. Still get to all of them. They all.
- [52:24]
A
Everybody, Everybody. Look, Kevin, stop tripping, bro. This is what happened when he get food and he. Any. Any warm. He want to move around a lot. See what I should have did.
- [52:38]
B
That's too much for me.
- [52:39]
A
Turn the heat off and then go get him because then he'll stay wrapped around my neck. He won't want to move because the body heat. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got no pets of any.
- [52:50]
B
Kind, Joe, I used to have. Look, when I was growing up, I had dogs. You know what I'm saying? I raised them dogs. And now I have kids and they talking about they wanted a dog and that was gonna make me raise another dog. Them little dudes weren't doing nothing. So you know what I'm saying? No more animals. What's up, man?
- [53:11]
A
Dog and then give it away, did you, Joe?
- [53:15]
B
I mean, don't we. Look, I didn't get the dog. I mean, yeah, the dog is. It was a great family. It was a great family. Great family.
- [53:26]
A
Joe. Joe. I can't never just get a yes or no out you, Joe. I can't. I can't. Yeah, you that dude.
- [53:37]
B
I'm not that dude, Debo, but my kids asked for the dog. I already had a dog when I was younger. I didn't feel like raising another dog. And I was raising another dog. Loved a dog and I didn't have enough.
- [53:49]
A
So you gotta suffer things for your children. Look at this.
- [53:52]
B
No, sir. No, sir.
- [53:54]
A
Look at this. You think I want. Well, I didn't want a snake, but I got a snake. I didn't. I definitely didn't want a bearded dragon, but I got a bearded dragon and now I'm the one washing her ass and clipping her toenails.
- [54:08]
B
See, look, but look. See, this is what I'm do. This is my thing. It's not the dog's fault. I don't want to have to be. I'm going to give all of my attention to bringing my kids, picking them up from school. Still I'm doing drop off pickup. I love it.
- [54:19]
A
Do you know the joy and pleasure they would get from coming home to seeing the dog that you, you got.
- [54:23]
B
Them, that they get to come home to enjoy the time with me? We're gonna have a blast. Do you know I built a. I built la. Yeah. Last night, Debo. I built a Hellcat lego with Joey. 400 pieces hellcat lego last night, Hellcat Lego green and black, 400 piece Lego.
- [54:43]
A
How much time you could have saved if you just had that dog and said, here, go walk the doggy?
- [54:47]
B
No, that's what I call quality time. Quality time with myself.
- [54:51]
A
That's what you call quality. But you can't have the quality time with your son and the dog, huh?
- [54:56]
B
No, because he's gonna be pooping and then baby trying to bite up my shoes and smelling up my house. Not in a bad way, but like, dog, this is my home. I want my house smell like dog.
- [55:07]
A
It ain't gotta smell like dog. That's dirty people.
- [55:12]
B
The dog shoot the dog that sitting over there. Well, now I gotta go walk the dog. My son ain't gonna go walk the dog. I told him, son, walk the dog. And I come home and there's a little bit of dog poop in my closet behind my shoes. So I'm like, oh, whose dog is this? Who gonna be watching this dog? It pooped in my closet. See the bus? So I ain't just. I'm like, now I got another whole kid walking around without a diaper on, pooping, biting up my shoes.
- [55:40]
A
You don't kennel him when you're gone. You ain't even letting get out of being a puppy. It sound like to me, Joe.
- [55:48]
B
How long did.
- [55:49]
A
Oh my God, Joe, come on. How long did you keep the dog for? You gave it away.
- [55:55]
B
I did not. Man, the dog is having a blast. I get pictures of the. I know what the dog is.
- [56:02]
A
You ain't answered it. How long did you keep the dog before you came away?
- [56:06]
B
For like a year. For a year, right.
- [56:08]
A
He wasn't even full grown yet.
- [56:10]
B
For a year.
- [56:11]
A
What kind of dog was it? Joe.
- [56:15]
B
Joe? Yes, it was a T. It was. It was a little dog.
- [56:19]
A
Oh, my God. It was a pocket dog. And you could have carried him everywhere.
- [56:25]
B
I don't need. I don't know. I don't know, Debo. I'm not walking around with a lap dog. I don't need a lap dog. I don't want a lap dog.
- [56:34]
A
I don't want a lap dog either. That's the reason I won't get one. See, I don't allow my dogs on my furniture. I don't allow them in my bedroom. Well, actually, he dying, so I kind of allow him in there now. Yeah, that's the only reason, though. But I don't allow dogs in my bed or nothing like that. Now, that's one reason I keep big dogs because I really believe that I may get soft and allow something that's, you know, don't shed one of those hyperallergenic type dogs. And I beat him, messed around and. And let him on my couch. But also, when I walk my dog, I don't want to feel like I gotta fight for him against another dog. So I gotta keep.
- [57:19]
B
Yeah, you want him to know he can hold his own.
- [57:22]
A
You know, I ain't. I ain't never trying to fight for my dog.
- [57:26]
B
I had. I had a rock waller growing up and I had a Cane Corso. So I know about the big dogs, and I love those dogs. Those are my favorite dogs of my life. Those were great dogs. So I'm not. Not against dogs at all.
- [57:40]
A
You're against dogs that you got to take care of.
- [57:43]
B
I just. I already took care of those dogs when I was a kid, and my kids aren't doing it. They making me do the same thing I did when I was a kid. And I'm cool now. I already did that. I already know my dogs. I love my dogs.
- [57:55]
A
Joe.
- [57:56]
B
Bappy. Bappy. Love you, Bappy. My rock wallet that I had when cane corso 30 years ago. This. Yep. No, I had bap. Yep. 30. About 30. Yep. I had bappy from 6 to 12, and then I had sugar from about 13 to about, like, about 21. And they. And they passed away. But Those were great dogs, man.
- [58:19]
A
We got. We got, I guess, some super chats right here. We got Richard Rubin donated two bucks and said, throw the snake at Ocho. Killed my snake. Then I really have to go ahead and catch a case. It ain't even my snake. You see, I say my snake. It's actually my son. It's my. It's my snake now. I ain't tripping. It's my snake now. That's what it's gonna be, bro. Listen here, Joe.
- [58:49]
B
Yeah.
- [58:50]
A
I want you to have a. A good time, you know, over there. Going to see the Steelers. I mean, the Browns. Sorry, you didn't go see the Steelers.
- [59:00]
B
I watched that game. I was a brightener.
- [59:02]
A
Okay. I'm just saying, you didn't travel there. I mean, that shows you have more dedication there.
- [59:08]
B
The same reason you didn't travel there. We had other things.
- [59:10]
A
Like I said. Like I said, I didn't go to any game overseas that wasn't for anyone else. And if I could have went for the Steelers and still made my commitments, I would have. Joe. Now, we want to thank you guys for joining us for the Debo and Joe episode 14. I don't know, man.
- [59:38]
B
We getting up there now. We getting.
- [59:40]
A
Okay, listen, make sure y' all hit the like button and subscribe. We need you. We want you, and you don't want to miss nothing. Joseph.
- [59:51]
B
Come on, make sure. Continue to, like. Continue to subscribe and thank you guys. We need you guys. We love you guys. Appreciate you for watching the show. Let's get it. Yo.
- [60:12]
A
This is an I Heart podcast.