Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe REACTION – Packers Beat Commanders, Green Bay D Shines, Ekeler Achilles Update

Podcast: Club Shay Shay (Deebo & Joe Show)
Date: September 12, 2025
Hosts: James “Deebo” Harrison & Joe Haden
Theme: NFL Week 2 reactions, Packers-Commanders deep-dive, injury analysis, rivalry talk, coaching/leadership, and NFL team dynamics

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the Packers’ Thursday Night victory over the Commanders, analyzes Green Bay’s defensive dominance, discusses the rash of Achilles injuries (highlighted by Austin Ekeler’s potential season-ending tear), and covers beefs around the league. Deebo and Joe break down what makes the Packers special this year, assess team ceilings, debate controversial player comments, and reflect candidly on locker room culture and pivotal leadership moments.

Packers vs. Commanders: Statement Win & Defensive Dominance

[01:07 - 07:45]

• Score: Packers beat Commanders 27–18, moving to 2–0 after consecutive wins over NFC contenders.
• Historic Defense:
  • Green Bay’s defense gave up only 230 yards to Washington, and just 246 to Detroit the week prior
    • “This is the first time the Packers have allowed fewer than 250 yards across the first two games of a season since 1995.” – Deebo [01:35]
• Standout Player:
  • TE Tucker Kraft: 124 receiving yards (most for a Packers TE since 2015’s “Miracle in Motown”)
    • “Tucker, my dude… most receiving yards by a Packers tight end since Richard Rogers…” – Deebo [01:42]
  • QB Jordan Love: Stellar vs. blitz (9/15, 175 yards, 2 TDs) and aggressive downfield
    • “He was actually 9 of 15 for 175 yards against them when they blitzed him… not just dinkin’ and dunkin’.” – Deebo [01:48]
  • The addition of Josh Jacobs takes pressure off Love; the running game is “doing amazing” [03:18]
• Key Injuries:
  • Austin Ekeler (Commanders RB): Suspected torn Achilles
  • Packers WR Jaden Reed: Broken collarbone (headed to IR)

Quotes

• “Jordan Love isn’t just a checkdown guy. He’s throwing bombs…” – Joe [03:18]
• “I see their ceiling as very high. I think they can go to the NFC Championship.” – Joe [05:07]
• “I want to see if the Lions are for real. If the Packers really dominate Chicago, then I'll believe the Super Bowl talk.” – Deebo [05:49]

Packers’ Ceiling & NFC Picture

[05:04 - 07:45]

• Joe sees Packers as legitimate NFC Championship contenders, able to match the Eagles weapons and defense.
• Deebo is cautious—he tags them as “NFC Championship” ceiling for now, citing quality of wins needed against powerhouses like the Lions.

Quote

• “If I was just looking and no teams had any names on their jerseys… I’d say that Packers team looks better… That team over there, Team B, is better than Team A.” – Joe [07:28]

NFL Injury Wave: Achilles Tears Analysis

[07:45 - 15:09]

• Achilles Epidemic:
  • Deebo rattles off stats—average yearly tears rising from 4 in 1980–2001, 14 in 2009–16, to 22 in 2023.
    • “In 2023, it was 22 Achilles [tears].” – Deebo [08:19]
• Root Causes:
  • Playing Surface: Increase in turf vs. grass; turf is less forgiving
    • “Change of surface… a lot more teams playing on turf.” – Deebo [09:27]
    • “Grass gives…” – Joe [09:29]
  • Training Changes: Players not training as hard/offseason routines have softened, less real football movement/strength pressure on tendons.
  • Anti-inflammatories (Prednisone): These medications can reduce tendon healing and resilience by masking pain and disrupting repair
    • “People take these to feel better… but you’re telling your body it’s okay and it’s not.” – Deebo [11:42]
• Practical Insight: Both ex-players agree they preferred grass, and sled-push training, to resist injury.

Memorable Moments

• “I’d rather slip on bad grass than catch my cleat wrong on turf and lose an ACL, MCL, something ‘L’… you’re taking the ‘L’.” – Deebo [15:52]

Trash Talk Spotlight: Grant Delpit vs. Derrick Henry

[16:08 - 21:22]

• Browns’ Grant Delpit told media, “not hard at all” when asked about tackling Derrick Henry; Henry replied “we’ll see on Sunday.”
• The crew debates whether giving “bulletin board material” like this ever works out.
• Joe, as a DB, breaks down the smart way to tackle Henry (go low), while Deebo says “totally disrespectful” to say Henry’s easy to tackle.

Quotes

• “Man, Delpit said he wasn’t [hard to tackle]. He feels some type of way. He feels like he’s not hard to tackle...” – Joe [19:14]
• “That’s totally disrespectful… that’s just crazy.” – Deebo [18:48]
• “You never give ‘em bulletin board material.” – Deebo [17:42]

Bears-Lions Matchup & Trick Play Chatter

[21:18 - 25:54]

• Trick plays: Dan Campbell (Lions coach) downplays them—wants the defense focused on “meat and potatoes.”
• Both hosts doubt the Bears can upset the Lions, citing Detroit’s superior discipline and organization.
• Discussion on the importance of consistency over flashy plays.

Quote

• “You worry about the meat and potatoes… trick plays won’t help if you’re getting dog-walked.” – Deebo [23:21]

Locker Room Real Talk: Pain After Losses & Player Leadership

[26:27 - 37:14]

• CD Lamb On His Drops: “For those that feel like they feel worse about the game than me, you’re absolutely wrong.” [27:31]
• Losing Hurts: Deebo and Joe reflect on the lows of losing as players, even mentioning feeling sick until Wednesday, despite paychecks.
• Super Bowl Memories: Deebo details the pain after losing ("We just looking at each other like mules chewing glue"). Recovery is a group process, and sometimes covered by celebration to mask pain.
  • “You get back to the hotel… jump in the shower, let the tears run down. Can’t nobody see me crying.” – Deebo [31:40]

Super Bowl Rematch: Mahomes’ Preparation

[33:16 - 37:30]

• Patrick Mahomes says he’s watched the Super Bowl loss to the Eagles “more times than [he] wants,” both solo and with coaches.
• Joe and Deebo note that’s the sign of a pro, but also note it’s tough to revisit painful film unless facing that same opponent again.

Quote

• “You gotta watch and learn from it… it sucks, but if you want to get better, you have to.” – Mahomes by Deebo [33:30]
• “Let me think. I don’t think I’ve ever watched the whole Super Bowl I lost.” – Deebo [36:20]

Players-Only Meetings: A Sign of Deeper Issues

[39:00 - 46:43]

• Dolphins have a “players only” meeting after Week 1 blowout. Both hosts see this as an ominous sign.
• Joe’s experience: when teams start having these meetings, coaches are often already on the way out and the organization lacks stability.
  • “Once it gets to the players-only meeting you already lost.” – Joe [39:45]
• Deebo: “That means the leadership that’s in place isn’t giving what’s needed… anyone with a players-only meeting probably lost their coach in a year or two.” [43:50]

Dolphins’ Troubles & QB/Tyreek Uncertainty

[46:57 - 48:34]

• Joe is skeptical of Tua as the Dolphins’ franchise QB (“Never been my favorite quarterback”).
• Suggests coaching shakeup might be needed, as well as moving a potentially disgruntled Tyreek Hill.
• Hypothetical: Tyreek would command “two first-round picks” in a trade (Joe [48:59]).

Rodgers, Brady, & QB Touchdown Milestones

[49:32 - 54:05]

• Aaron Rodgers nearing Brett Favre’s career TD count, could surpass him "this weekend."
• Tom Brady and Drew Brees’ historic career TDs discussed ("649 is crazy work”).
• Deebo offers insight into meeting Brady as a teammate for the first time—was pleasantly surprised by Brady’s humility and approachability.
  • “When I came here, I wanted to hate you… but you a good dude.” – Deebo [51:39]

Rookie Cam Ward: QB Leadership Under Pressure

[54:05 - 55:57]

• Ward’s rough debut marred by errors from others, but he isn’t throwing his receivers under the bus:
  • “I’m never going to get on these guys for dropping the ball. I’m going to throw a pick at some point. Next play mentality.” – Cam Ward (via Deebo) [54:59]
• Both hosts praise Ward’s leadership, comparing it to the importance of “treating others how you want to be treated.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• “You never want to give bulletin board material.” – Deebo [17:42]
• “Once it gets to the players-only meeting you already lost.” – Joe [39:45]
• “I ain’t gonna lie… when I took a loss and it was payday, I felt a little better.” – Deebo [29:30]
• “649 [TDs] is crazy work.” – Joe (on Brady) [50:30]
• “You heard it live—if [Rodgers] gets 68 [TDs], he’s passing Drew Brees too.” – Deebo [53:13]

Timestamps of Key Segments

• Packers’ Defensive Start & Jordan Love: [01:07–04:14]
• Discussion: Green Bay’s Ceiling [05:04–07:45]
• Achilles Injuries & NFL Trend Analysis: [08:00–15:09]
• Delpit vs. Henry Trash Talk: [16:08–21:22]
• Trick Play Debate & Bears-Lions Talk: [21:18–25:54]
• Locker Room Pain After Defeat: [26:27–31:55]
• Mahomes on Super Bowl Film: [33:16–37:30]
• Players-Only Meetings: [39:00–46:43]
• Rodgers/Brady TDs & Meeting Tom: [49:32–51:39]
• Rookie Cam Ward’s Response: [54:05–55:57]

Summary

This episode features a vibrant, open locker-room style breakdown of the NFL’s biggest news, putting special focus on the Packers’ rise, injury issues league-wide, and the realities faced by players and teams riding highs and lows. Deebo and Joe blend first-hand anecdotes, hilarious storytelling, and technical insight—making this a must-listen for any serious football fan.