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Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Packers BEATING Commanders! Green Bay D SHOWS UP + Ekeler Achilles tear
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This is an iHeart podcast. Welcome back to the Deebo and Joe show. I'm your host James Debo Harrison and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe to our show. Y' all don't want to miss nothing. Also, an added bonus, y' all need to stick around because at the end of the show we we're announcing the two ticket winners for the giveaway that we put in place. Now whoever wins these tickets, y' all need to make sure y' all post your pictures, y' all tag us in them so that everybody knows that we gave the tickets away and somebody went there. It ain't no flim flamsy fluke Duke going on.
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Okay?
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No, no schemes at all, baby. How you doing?
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I'm doing good, brother. How you man?
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You know I'm doing good, man. Blessed to see another day.
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Oh, lovely, lovely. We had some great, great football, obviously.
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Yes, for sure. We go start off with the Packers, I mean Thursday night game. That's, that's, that's the only thing everybody watch.
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The only thing we can talk about.
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No question. The Packers. The packers beat the Commanders 27:18. Dude. Green Bay moves to 2:0. The packers have now beaten two NFC contenders in back to back weeks. But the packers defense only gave up 230 yards of total oh offense to the.
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They were strapping. Hey, last.
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Listen, last week they only gave up 246 to Detroit. So these boys doing things. This is the first time the packers have allowed fewer than 250 yards across the first two games of a season since 1995.
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God.
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Tucker. Tucker, my dude. Tucker Craft. 124 yards. Dude. It's the most receiving yards. It's the most receiving yards by Packer tight end since Richard Rogers in Week 13 of 2015 at Detroit. The game dubbed the Miracle in Motown Hail Mary game, brother. Jordan Love, of course Jordan Love was doing his thing, dude. He was actually 9 of 15 for 175 yards against them when they blitzed him, dude. With two tugs like on throws of 10 yards or more against the blitz, Love was 6 or 8 for 144 yards and a tudy, a nice tuddy. Dude. We had some bad news of course at the end had a couple guys get injured, you know, through the process of the game. Scheffner reported that the Commanders believe veteran running back Austin Eckler did in fact tear his Achilles last night. He's scheduled to undergo an MRI imaging for today. Also there are Jaden the receiver for the package. Reed. Yeah, he suffered a fracture, a collarbone. So he's, he's out. He's headed to IR A thing. I want to ask you a question. Where, where do you see the ceiling? Actually two questions. Where do you see the ceiling for the packers as you look at it right now? And what, what is your take on what's causing all these Achilles injuries, Man?
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First of all, I'm going to do my take on these packers because that game was a great game. It was amazing. Jordan Love was balling. And it wasn't just Jordan Love, it was Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. I forgot that they had one of the best running backs in the league also. So having Jordan Love not having to depend on him as much, having that great running game and at the end of the day, Jordan Love isn't a check down guy. He's not just dun Dinkin and Duncan. He's throwing bombs. That one that he almost had to go in. The rookie from Texas that was streaking, the 4:2 guy, he missed him by the fingertips. And then the next play they throwed him on next play, another bomb down the left hand sideline where he twinkle toed it on the sideline. So it's not just like he's like doing little catching runs, he's throwing balls down the field. The running game is doing amazing. And then it's not just offense, Debo, it's defense. And, and it's not just Michael Parsons who's balling. This is great move, dude.
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I seen like three or four times where they had three people blocking this dude, man.
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He's creating other opportunities for other D linemen because he's getting pressure, he's getting stunted on. People have eyes on him and he's giving people one on ones. When you're one on one there he's. People are winning because of him. And then also my good man, I'm going to say Keshan Nixon, the cornerback for the Green Bay packers. Not only are they balling on the front level, getting after the quarterback in the back end, he had five past breakups break up on in the fourth on the, on fourth down. He's just being very, very, just being aware of the ball getting after the Rock. Love seeing that they're balling on every single level. So Green Bay, they're ceiling for me is very high. They're ceiling for Jordan Love is very high. I think they can go, they can go in the playoffs. They can, they can challenge any team. They can.
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Where's your ceiling? You saying super bowl, you Saying, what are you saying?
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I think they can definitely go to the NFC Championship. Like, I don't see. I don't see why not. I think with them, I mean, because we're looking at the NFC quarterbacks. We got Jalen Hurts, we got Dak Prescott, we got Baker Mayfield. And then I'm thinking about Jordan Love. Like, end of the day, it will be Eagles, and they would have to contest against Green Bay. I don't think that Green Bay is scared of the Eagles. I think that there's somebody they have to go against, and I think they'll be the Eagles. And it's looking like Green Bay and they're going to go against each other and the defense is playing like this, and the offense with the running game, with Jordan Love being able to throw the ball this way, and with Jacobs being able to tote the rock, I don't see how they couldn't beat the Eagles. So, I mean, it looked great from my perspective. How do you think it looked, Deebo?
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I think it looked great. But, you know, I would go NFC Championship game, I would go that far. I wouldn't jump ahead to Super Bowl. Only reason I wouldn't jump ahead to super bowl is because, you know, they just played Washington. Washington beat the Giants 21 to 6. So, you know, the Giants aren't really, you know, that. That team that you would actually look at to measure against. And of course, you know, you got the Lions. Right now I want to see if that was just, you know, if the Lions are still the lines that they were last or is it. Is it right? Or is it. Or is it a new Lions? And then you got the Lions. They're playing, you know, Chicago this week. But again, you know, Chicago came out hot in the first quarter. They looked. They looked great. And then they. They twinkled and twizzled out. So, you know, I don't think that gives me a. A good feel of, you know, where they really are. I think if I'm not confident, go out there and just totally dominate Chicago. I think, you know, that would make me feel better about saying, you know, the ceiling is super bowl for. For Green Bay, because I think that's what Green Bay would, you know, due to Chicago. But, you know, right now, I'm just going to say I see the ceiling right now as NFC champions.
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I'm just saying, the last time I seen you, you bested your last game, you bested your last performance. I'm going to say from what I last seen and when I last seen the Eagles play, I Mean, they won the game. They got out of the stadium with a win. It didn't look too good, but you know, they won the game. When I see Green, Bailey, the stadium, I think that team played well. I think they played better. And I'm not saying that they're just a better team or whatever, but offensive wise, defensive wise, the way that they're moving the ball, the way that they're stopping the run, the way that they're making plays on the back end, I kind of just like that team. If I was just looking and nobody had any different. If they had no names on their jerseys and you just looked at each team play two games, I would say, oh, the packers team, that team over there, Team B is better than team.
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A. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, that's, that's a. That's a. That's an easy, that's an easy get, you know, to my, to my other part. What do you, what do you think is, is the cause of all these Achilles tears that we're hearing about?
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I don't know, Debo, because it's non contact and you know, those are the words. Like when you just see somebody jumping and they about to burst and just make that plant and then it just goes. And you just see it happen. I don't know particularly why people Achilles are going like that. I didn't have. I never, I was fortunate enough never to have an Achilles tear, but I don't know why they seem to go. Do you think it's like more. They're not just the, like we said, the practice, we're not doing things full speed as much. And then all of a sudden we're asking players to just, you got to go, you got to go. You got to be game ready. You got to be able to start moving and not doing that in training camp or not doing that as much in the off season, maybe they're not. Their body's not ready to just respond.
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Okay. Yeah, I think it's a combination of three of, of three things. If you look at the National Institute of Health, they did a study, I guess between 1980 and 2001, it was an average of 4 Achilles rupt season. When you go 97 to 2000, it was an average of 5 per season. You go to 2009-16, it jumps up, is 14 per season. And in 23 it was 22 Achilles. So, so, so for me, the thing I see is change of surface. You have a, you have a change of surface. It's a lot more teams playing on Turf. That's, you know, I think that's. That's an adding grass.
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Grass gives grass.
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Yes. Grass gives better.
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Yep.
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And then the, the second thing is, is training, dude. I don't. I don't think guys are training the same way or training as hard as they used to, especially with it being the changes in the collective bargaining agreement. But then even training, you know, when you're out there in the off season, you know, you need to do training that puts that kind of, you know, repetitive pressure, like, on your Achilles. So a thing that we do or my trainer likes to do is sled pushes. Like, heavy sled pushes. I'm putting, you know, I'm putting that. That pressure on that Achilles is getting, you know, people like, James, why are you trying to push. Why are you pushing £2,000? Well, I'm not just pushing it just to show off. I'm pushing it to actually build that strength so my body gets used to that. Also, sled pushes where you're actually with lighter weight and you're just doing it for explosion and speed. Now you're, You're, You're. You're doing the same thing. It's just lighter and you're exploding, and you're doing that repetitively so that your body can get used to that motion. I think when guys get out there and, you know, they're going through the course of the game and it's just over time, and then they haven't done it, it's just, you know, it may be too much. Another big thing I think is. Is prednisone, though. The dose packs, you know, that you take for. For, like, inflammation and all that. That right there messes up the healing process, dude. Like, the biggest thing it does is it lowers. It lowers or stops inflammation altogether.
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Like the packs giving you.
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Yes, the. The oral packs that they give you to help with say something's hurt. So what it does is it. It lowers or stops the inflammation, which is, you know, it's part of your body's natural healing. And your body, it tells your body, like, hey, you feel this pain, don't go out there and. And do this. It won't allow you, you know, your body won't allow you to work through certain pains. So, you know, I think guys are. Are taking these to, you know, you take you a pack, you feel better. You feel like, you know, you feel like King Kong. All your soreness is gone. But you're also telling your body that it's okay to go out here and.
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These kind of like T shots you talking about? But not like.
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No, no, it's like the.
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When we say T shot. I was listening to the last episode, we talked and you said tee shots. And people was like, what was the tee shots? A lot of mine was like.
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No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not talking about torto. I'm talking about more of the oral prednisone. The. What is it? Almost what they call it, a steroidal inflammatory. I gotta ask. Very, very.
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I gotta ask the question, Debo, because I'm not hip. I gotta act like. Because I know some. I don't. Sometimes you be talking about stuff and I'll be like, damn, Debo, you are very smart and know about all of the technical stuff and by all of the different stuff.
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I don't, I don't know really that much. So I can explain it.
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No, no, no, for sure, for sure. I just wanted to let you know sometimes you might got to dumb it down for me because I'll be looking like I don't know what's going on because I'd be like Dee, most really talking you because you know what you're saying about the, about the different shots and about the different pills and all the stuff. But some stuff I'm just not as hip to. So I just want you.
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Yeah. So the prednisone, you know, you ever. The dose packs, you ever had the 5 or 2 6, 5, 4, 321 or 5, 4, 32 1. Okay. That is prednisone. Anything that has zone sewn on it at the end is some type of anti inflammatory. And the biggest thing about those is it actually slows down the like process of your tendons being able to repair because it stops like I guess it's some type of protein or something or whatever it is. But basically it's what the body needs to repair the tendon. So as you work out and you do all the other stuff, you know how you get micro tears? Micro tear is the same thing as when you're building muscle, you're working out.
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You'Re tearing down tissue.
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So you take, right. So you take protein to help recover and repair that. What you, what you feel is soreness, you know what I'm saying? So you take protein to help build, recover and repair. The big process of what happens with when you take prednisone is like the tendons, like it actually like doesn't allow your tendon fibers to heal properly to, to do what they need to do to repair. So like going like Same thing. Like I said, it's like taking protein. You know, going into the process of taking protein when you, when your body can't heal, then you're, you're left with not being able to really do nothing. It'll make your attendance, you know, brittle. Like, you know, you don't need to use that. You don't need to use it. If you're trying to work through something especially like inflammation that's like trying to tell your body not to go. I don't say you, it's things that you do need to take it for 100. But I don't, I, I think that maybe some guys use it when they don't actually need it just because it's going to make you feel better. You know what I'm saying? You know, your body's sore, you're banged up, you're like, you know what, it's.
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A quick fix, but it's not a long term, it's not going to help you in the long term. Okay?
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No, no, not even, not even close, brother. Yeah, so that's, that's my thought process on it field turf, harder grabs, putting more pressure on it training and you know, the use of these anti inflammatories.
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I think one, I think I, I can definitely see with now what you're saying with the anti inflammatories. Definitely understand what you're saying with the training because I don't think people is putting that immediate pressure on it. And with the fields too. I'm always been a grass fan, grass.
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Over turf, anytime I am grass all day. I ain't got, I ain't got to take no turf, none of that. I ain't got to do nothing about.
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Just cleat getting caught up in it. It's just, it's too grippy, you know what I'm saying? Like fresh like taking care of grass fields freshly painted. Nothing like going on playing on a clean, freshly sawed it. Not just the coming up like bad grass but just you know, you know what I'm talking about Debo, that good grass you go out there.
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Oh yeah, I know.
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Sticking you like.
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Listen.
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Yeah. This today about to be a good day.
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Rather I'd rather slip on bad grass than catch my cleat wrong on turf and lose acl, mcl, PC, whatever, something L, you know, it's gonna.
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You taking the L, right?
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Right, right. Yeah, you are definitely taking the air. Speaking of taking the L, man, I guess nearly a year after old dude over there, what's his name? Grant D. Pit. Del Pit. Yeah, he delivered a good shot, I guess to Henry. And he, he was asked, he was asked by the media, he said, how hard is it to tackle Gary Henry? He said, not hard at all. Henry responded to him later today saying he was aware of the comment and he had a quote. He said, we'll see on Sunday. Why is there so much back and forth on this game, bro?
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Because you know, people, we don't, they don't like each other. You know, Ravens don't like the Browns, Browns don't like the Ravens. And I think personally with Del Pitt and Henry, he caught him. You know what I'm saying? It's just, you know how, you know, you know is. And he's asking him how hard is it to tackle? And I'm gonna tell you this. Derrick Henry is extremely hard to tackle. If you run up on him high looking crazy, you're going to get stiff armed. So when my thing, if you go down low on his legs, try to wrap him up, you might get jumped over. But I could, I could understand what Delp is saying. Derek, if he catch Derrick Henry running high, he feels like he can hit him hard because he's done.
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He, he did, he did he did he Listen, he didn't say nothing about catching Derrick Henry running high, brother. He said that he was not hard.
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He's, he's just, yeah, he's, he's talking, you know, that's not. I don't know if he means it. I think, yeah, I was trying to stand. I'm standing up.
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You don't say things. You don't mean it. You, you never give him a bulletin board material? No, he just gave him bullets.
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He did, he's stand and he's standing on it. I mean, I don't know. I think the devil, he just feels some type of way. So I hopefully goes out there. You got to stand on what you say. He said it. He said it. Derek Henry, Derek Henry said he's gonna see him on Sunday. So there's only.
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He said, he said he go see him on Sunday. So if he run in there and, and shoot at Derek's knees, is, is he, is he standing on business?
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He said he's not hard to tackle. Tackle means the man goes down to the ground. That's what people get confused. Oh yeah, you messed him up or.
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He not hard to tackle.
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I mean, he said he's not hard to tackle. So if he goes down, it goes down to Derrick Henry's legs and takes them down is. How do you look at that?
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Are you saying it don't matter? Just get some tackle?
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Because if you run up there. Because this is what I'm saying. If you run up there high, he can stiff arm you right in your face or he might he gonna dip on you. But if you don't give him the chance and go lower, then you might have a better. You'll have a better chance to tackle him. In my opinion, from my experience, I'm going low.
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I mean, I think it's just, that's just crazy. Totally disrespectful to say it's not hard.
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It is. He was being disrespectful saying that he was trying to get like, how, how.
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How, how, how big is he? Dude, like d. Henry was 6, 3, 2, 5 5. Like, come on, bro. And he coming down like, yes, he.
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Is hard to tackle in my opinion. But you got, man, Delpus said he wasn't. He feels some type of way. He feels like he's not hard to tackle. I'm not.
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Maybe, maybe, maybe he not hard to tackle for him. It's just, y', all, that's that he hard to tackle.
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For the rest of the team.
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Maybe he's shooting shots at. Maybe he's shooting shots at people. Maybe, you know, you know what?
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You know what? You know what? We're going to watch the game. But that's what happens when you do say stuff like this. Now you give everybody the opportunity to analyze spotlight. Now we're going to watch you. We're going to look and see the opportunities. What's your tackling looking like? How easy is everybody to tackle? You know what I'm saying? Because if Derrick Henry's so easy to tackle, you know what I'm saying? That's just why I don't like putting unneeded pressure on yourself. You already out there. You're already in the spotlight. You gonna have to be out there in the situation regardless. You, you're putting a spotlight on you to be watched by now, everyone analyzing. Are you saying it's easy to tackle Henry or. Let me watch this. Let's see how easy it is for you. You know what I'm saying? Like when you don't need to do that. So that's the only reason. That's the only thing I'm saying. I'm like, w, you did put that unneeded pressure on yourself. You're right. When you're speaking, you don't want to give bulletin more material. You can say that to your teammates, but saying that out to the media is basically Saying like, man, it is what it is. I'm out here. Your wallet.
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No, that's. That's less than saying that. That's way more than saying it is what it is what it is. Just be like, yeah, you know, he. You know, it's. It's. It's not easy. That. That would be. It is what it is. It's not hard at all. Like, it's not hard.
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Not hard. Well, how. How hard? What was the answer exactly? He said, how hard is it to tackle Derek Henry? He said, not hard.
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Not hard.
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Yeah, he's wild. Yeah, he w. It's a hard tackle to make. Derek Henry, he's about to be the leading rusher of all NFL history. One of the leading rushers ever to do it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Listen, man, maybe they just.
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We're gonna be watching. We're gonna be watching right up the street.
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I ain't gonna even lie. I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up, you know, I'm pulling up to the Steelers game already ready Baltimore.
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I'm gonna be there right up the street.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. Okay, let's. Let's get over here to Detroit. So the one thing Ben Johnson became known for as offense coordinator in Detroit was trick plays. But Dan Campbell said trick plays are the least of his concerns. He's getting ready for Johnson's. For Johnson's offense. You know what? You can't put Johnson, Johnson. They can't say, I might have to that name. You know, he said, I. He said, I don't really care about trick plays. Just handle the meat and potatoes of the offense. A defense, what they think you're going to hang with the def. A defense, what they think you're going to hang their hat on. Let's stop that first. Let's worry about that. Let's make sure we're out, we're all on point, and we handle that stuff. Do you think the Bears got a shot at beating the Lions?
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I. I think everybody has a shot because any given Sunday is early in the season. But I'm not predicting it. I'm going. I think the Lions are going to get things going. I think what Dan Campbell is saying this stuff, too, all the trick plays and stuff, if you have good eyes, if you have good discipline, you know what I'm saying? It's going to work itself out. If you start working and wondering about the random plays that they gonna run, that's when you start chasing ghosts. So long as you got eye discipline, as long as you have your defensive script ready. To go. I think what he's saying is working on the meat and potatoes, knowing exactly what their bases are, what their main things are going to do on third down in the red zone. Trick plays, as long as we have our eyes right, we'll work that out. So I think. I don't. I think they have a shot because it's football and it's the NFL and they're all professionals, but I don't think that the Bears are going to be able to beat the Lions. I think the Lions are going to get their. Get their stuff going, going to get the running going, get the defense going, and really get back to being the Lions because it's early on in the season. I think that they. I believe in them way more than I believe in the Bears.
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I really want to know who asked the question about trick plays? Like, who cares about a trick play if I'm dog walking on the trick play ain't gonna help him no way. I'm. I'm 100 with him. Like, you worry about the meat potatoes trick plays. You don't worry. You don't. You don't worry about the trick plays? Yes, you can say you saw something on camera or tape or whatever it may be and be aware of it, but me actually working on it, unless it's something that they're doing that is not normal. You know, you're. You're a team that, you know, runs a, you know, at least, you know, 10, 15 plays, a wildcat or, or you give some type of, you know, off formation that you don't normally see. And y', all, y' all do it, you know, it's a part of your offense, you know, through the course of games. Then, yes. But a trick play, we're going to, we're going to work on a trick play that maybe or may not come out. And when it comes down to it, you actually got to be in a position to have that trick play work. So if the, if the Bears play like they did last week, it's ain't no amount of trick play is gonna.
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Be able to help. That's what I'm saying.
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I don't, I don't. I don't get. I ain't gonna lie. I don't get a Bears a shot. That's just, you know, that's just where I see.
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I don't blame you. And especially with. The same way, with their coach even answering that question is what a good coach is supposed to say, in my opinion. Like, no, we going to do the right things. Our discipline, that's going to handle basically what he's saying. That's going to handle the trick plays. Us chasing ghosts is not going to make us better football team. So I'm with Campbell, I'm with the Lions. I think they're going to beat the Bears. I think Caleb got talent, but it's just not. It's not. It's the organization, it's the ship. They got to stay. Got to get the ship right over there.
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I mean, you could. Well, what happened to the ship? In the first quarter, the ship was going right the second quarter, everything started going down, man.
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The ship is a long game, you know what I'm saying? You know what it is, Debo? It's ebbs and flows. You gotta be able to take punches, make punches, be able to like, it's momentum shifts, you know what I'm saying? They ain't never get out of the state. You just get one shift and then you just go the rest of the way. You gotta be able to, you know what I'm saying? Settle the ship, you know what I'm saying? Be able to always be even, kill, you know what I'm saying? Don't get too high, don't get too low. So I just don't think that they have.
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I mean, you just gotta continue to. I, I need more consistency in the play. I don't care about the high and low. The consistency of play will take care of, you know, all of that versus, you know, getting high and low. If I'm a consistent, consistently playing well, I mean, I'm not gonna have to worry about the rules.
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You say the first quarter, they were consistently playing good there. And then the second quarter, consistently bad. Third quarter, consistently bad. Fourth quarter consist. Too bad. If you're just gonna give me, at least give me a little, you know what I'm saying? Something a little, A little, A little consistent.
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Okay. They gave you a little glimpse. So you, you still holding on to him.
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It's still early, man. It's still early. At least they got to get mad, Matt. If they mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, we not even. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, it's too way too early to start to start hanging it up.
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Okay, I got you. I got you. Let's go over here, I guess. CD Lamb said he couldn't sleep much over the weekend. The drops against the Eagles bothered him. He said, I would rather nobody else but myself be in those situations. I came up short once. We'll see the rest. He said, trust me, I'VE thought about it. I've dwelled on it. I've done everything that you could possibly imagine about this game. For those that feel like they feel worse about the game than me, you're absolutely wrong. CD Said yes, man. I'm gonna tell you something right now. That's real talk. All these fans that be like, oh, my God, this. I just feel so. I'm. I'm. I'm distraught. I'm missing that these guys don't even care. Instead of. No, no, believe me, it. I am so. Dude, listen. I am so happy. I do not have the ups and downs of winning and losing and being at work. Like, I felt like I was. I was on a. A roller coaster at Cedar Point, dude. Like, the highs is high and the lows is low, dude. It. When you lose a game, dude, on Sunday, dude, it messes up everything until. Yes, it messed up everything until you get to that. That Wednesday when you start getting ready for the next opponent, dude, my whole. My whole. My whole three, four. My whole three days, dude, till we start. I'm. I'm just.
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B
Because anything is always so much better to. To figure out what you did wrong or whatever on a win than a loss. Once you lost, everything feels like that's the reason why we lost this play. Could have. I'd have did that better. That one missed tackle. I can't wait. Soon we watch the film. I know exactly what play I'm looking forward to. I already got the script. You know what it is they show. Oh, man, I missed that tackle on play 13. Wait till we get to 13. Everybody looking. We in the meeting. You can't stand. You know you're wrong. And that's the part, too, when you're. When you're. When you want to be great. Like Ceedee. He feels the worst because now he's in that meeting. He knows he's the man. He wants the ball in that situation. He knows he can make that catch. He wants to be the only one on the. On the cowboys to make that catch. And when he doesn't, he feels like shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, in his heart of heart, he wants that. You know what I'm saying? That's why I love him being able to say it, because he means it. Cause I would feel the same way. And I know you feel the same way. Losing that game every single play that whole week until Wednesday, when you start the next week of practice, preparation for the next team, you feel like I let everybody down. Everybody's walking around I let my boys down. I can't wait till next week when we win. And then the plays that I've messed up on. You know what I'm saying? That's my bad. That's me. I gotta do better. But we still won the game. Game. Everybody's chilling. This wasn't the reason why we lost. Now everybody's still walking around the facility. Hype. Coach is good. Everybody high five it. You lose. Ain't nothing funny. The Are you smiling about. You know what I'm saying?
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A
Hey, I ain't gonna listen. I ain't gonna lie to you, though. I ain't gonna lie to you. Hey, when I took a loss and it was payday, I felt a little better.
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B
I ain't gonna lie to you about it, Debo. That's real. That's real talk. That's real talk. Make you feel better. It make you feel better. Make you feel better.
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A
Taking a loss and it ain't payday, man, you. Man, I'm. I'm feeling. I'm feeling trashy right there, buddy. You know what's so crazy, dude? I still go over, like. Like, losses. Like, Super Bowl. That's what it is. Super Bowl. I'm like, you know what? I could have did this here. I know it wasn't my responsibility, but I was there.
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B
I could have did it.
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A
Damn, I missed that there. If I was paying attention, I could.
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B
Have probably picked that there.
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A
And, boy, I could have punched the ball out here, dude.
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B
Yes.
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A
When. When I was. When we played Green Bay and we ended up losing the Green Bay in the Super. Dude. Super bowl, dude. I'm in my room, and it's just running through my head like, I can't stop it. I can't stop it. And you know how they had the, you know, like, the after party and all that, you know?
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B
Oh, you know you did, man.
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A
We in a. You know, dudes, and we in the hallways, man. We just looking at each other like mules chewing glue, man. And everybody's like, man, I could have did this maybe if I had did this. Oh, man, I missed that. Oh, if I did this, like, just going through it. And finally, dude, we were just like, yo, what we gonna do, man? We gonna sit here and cry sober? We go cry or we go cry drunk, man. Went on down, yo, I tell you, we're so glad they had no cameras, dude. Well, it's some. It's some pictures out there. Just say we was on stage, like a little wedding concert. No, you know, no shirt.
- [31:24]
B
Like, y' all had to get it out. Y' all had to get it out, man. Y' all had it. Y' all had a crazy year, man, making it.
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A
I ain't gonna lie. I, I. I seen. I think I see cats crying, man. I'm like, yeah, I ain't about to let them see them tears on camera.
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B
Oh, I would definitely, Definitely.
- [31:41]
A
Listen, I got back to the hotel, jumped in the shower, and I was like, I let the tears run down. Can't nobody see me crying.
- [31:48]
B
Well, I would have been in there. I would have been telling her, I bet.
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A
I love y', all, man.
- [31:52]
B
You know what I'm saying? But next year, we got this, though, right?
- [31:55]
A
And then that's the thing, you know, you got guys that are like, yo, this might be my last year, my last time here on this team. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, contract up, you don't know. If you go get. Like, every team is a new team. It's a different team that comes up. You know, that's the crazy part about the league. Rather you keep. Yes, it's literally whether you keep your core or not. It's. It's. It's changed. It's a whole. The special teams that, you know, that stuff matters.
- [32:23]
B
As soon as, you know, start, and then the draft and then you had training camp, it's a bunch of just new dudes. You know, normally, it's a core. Couple of the guys you had there that started with you, maybe some dudes on contracts and stuff, but every year, it's a whole lot of new dudes that come in. From OTAs to training camps to like, just building a whole different squad. So once it ends, once that ends and you like this, I don't know if I'm gonna see these dudes, you know what I'm saying? Again, you know what I'm saying? Like, you never plan on not seeing them, you know what I'm saying? You always like, man, we working next day, you know what I'm saying? We got something to do. We're grinding. We got practice, we got stuff going on. Season not gonna end. We gonna win the Super Bowl. Until next thing you know, either you can't win the Super Bowl. You didn't make it. You lost in a playoff game. Just happens fast. And then next, you know, you like this hold up. This be. You know what I'm saying? It's over. You know what I'm saying? I mean, where. Where everybody going?
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A
Yeah, baby. Speaking of Super Bowls, we got a Super bowl rematch coming up. Patrick Mahone was Asked how many times did he watch the super bowl of them losing 40 to 22, he said, how much has he watched the super bowl on his own in the weeks after? He said, I mean, yeah, I mean, I've watched the game after. So you have to learn from it. I mean, it sucks. You lose the game, but in order to progress to get better the next time, you have to watch and learn from it. And so I don't know the exact amount of times, but you watch it, and then you watch it in the off season with the team and with the coaches, and then you watch it obviously this week as well. So, I mean, it sounds like he done watch this game way more times than he want to say that he didn't.
- [34:14]
B
He watched it, man. Right there. That's. That's three times, he said, but you watch it and then you watch it in the off season with the team and the coaches, and then obviously you watch it this week for training. So that's three good times that he watched the joint. You know what I'm saying? And as something like you, like when you play against the Eagles, you watch games and I didn't know Patrick Mahomes is a g. He's a legend. He's a goat. That just sucks. It sucks watching you not play to the top of your level and then at the top of the world playing in the super bowl. You know what I'm saying? So obviously it's not a game that you would want to watch, but when you're watching film and you're a professional like Patrick Mahomes is, he watches it when he has to. I watch it with my coaches. I watched it during off season and I watched it this week. You know what I'm saying? You really want to know? It's not a game that I admire watching, but I have to study tape and I'm going to get better from it. I love his take on it, but he don't want to watch the game. He didn't play well. But you're going to learn stuff from it. And I think that, you know, you can learn what Philly was doing to you to make the game look. Get that bad, get that ugly. So I think it's not just him, it's his line, it's their blitz. It's just understanding what Philly did to make them look that bad. So I respect Pat. I love Pat. And him said, yeah, I watched it with the coaches.
- [35:25]
A
I watched it during off season and I watched it. He watched it. He watched it. No, no, no. He said he watched it in the office. He didn't say I watched it one time in the office. He said I watched it in the off season. Like, he. He watched. You know, he kept. He kept watching it. I ain't gonna even lie to you, bro. I don't. Let me think about it. I don't really think I've watched a whole super bowl that I lost. I had the misfortune of being in two of them that I lost. One with the Steelers and. And one with the Patriots. And, dude, honestly, I can't say I know what I did wrong. I know, dude, I can. Yeah, I don't. I don't think I've ever, like, watched in whole.
- [36:20]
B
I'm gonna ask you this. Do you think Patrick is saying he watched the whole game or he watched, like, the. Like, the clips, you know what I'm saying? Like, on your iPad, you know what I'm saying?
- [36:29]
A
Like, he's saying he's watched with coaches. He's what? Like, I. I haven't. Like, I haven't watched the whole defense or anything. Like, I haven't watched a hole or nothing. If I catch it, it's on, like, TV or something. Like, I have not sat down and watched that whole tape of any super bowl loss. I ain't gonna lie. Like, for me, like, I can't do nothing to get better next week. So. And. And the. And the chances of seeing them again at the same place are slim tonight, so I'll worry about that when that time comes and gets closer. But I'm like, I don't. I haven't really watched the full.
- [37:15]
B
Well, I think you might be different for him because he's winning them again, you know what I'm saying? He's playing them again. They're playing this week, you know what I'm saying? So it could.
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A
Well, yeah, I can see. I can see that. Because. Yeah, after you. After you get hit like that, what went wrong?
- [37:31]
B
So you got to check and see what went wrong. You got to. If you really want. You know what I'm saying? Check on it. Bump your feelings. We try and get better, you know what I'm saying? End of the day. And the last time we played them was in the super bowl where they smacked us. So then you would probably watch it if you was in this situation.
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A
Yeah, that's. That's not just a smack. That's like a. That was a. I couldn't believe it. I was a problem.
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B
Yeah, no, for sure.
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A
Speaking. Speaking of getting whooped on, I mean, after the Coats got, got in a. I can't say that. Yeah, I can. After the coast gotten, you know, in the Dolphins ass, you know they had a players only meeting. Linebacker Jordan Brooks, one of Miami's six captains, said losing the way we did week one can be discouraging. Outside noise, people talking, fans talking, family talking, whatever, everybody talking, but just kind of making sure that everybody's together. When you lose like that, it's easy for people to get discouraged and start looking, questioning, maybe yourself and others. So just making sure that we all lock in and make sure that the belief is still there. You lose belief, you don't have nothing. So making sure that everybody is still on the same page can be next and come back next week stronger. Have you had any players only meetings like this, bro?
- [39:00]
B
I have. I have for sure. Have you. You've never had players only meetings?
- [39:06]
A
Okay, like this? No, I, I, Dude, I ain't going to lie. Not like if it's a dude. No, haven't. I have not had a players only meeting like that. It's for me. For you to even have to have a players only meeting like that after one week tells me that what you're afraid of is already happening and you're trying to stop it from, you know, spreading out to other people in the locker room that may not be feeling the same way.
- [39:45]
B
It's. Once it gets to the players only meeting, you already lost. So, like that, that's kind of where I was. Like, that's just where you.
- [39:54]
A
Oh, you was in Cleveland. I forgot how.
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B
Yeah, you real, you was real good. That's what we're not, that's what we're not gonna do. We're not gonna be here for the slander of the land.
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A
Slander. Slander means it's not true. I said you were real good. You go going to the Hall. What are you talking about? It's just that your team, you, y'. All, Y' all didn't. It's okay. Ain't not. It's not really okay, but I understand. That's why I never had one of those type of meetings.
- [40:18]
B
So let me, let me go ahead. So long story short, if the, it's, you know, it was a lot of coaching staff change. We had a different coach kind of every year we were there, a different head coach, different offensive coordinator. So it was a kind of different, sometimes different, different voice, you know what I'm saying? So sometimes when you had vets that were around, like me, like Joe T, when we had situations where you were just, People started Kind of going for themselves, like, kind of at the end of the day, we wanted to let them know the eye in the sky don't lie. What you don't want to do is not perform. The thing is, your job is on the line. Even if you're not gonna play for the Browns, you gonna play for somebody else. Like your. Your tape is your resume. It gets down to the gritty. Once you start being mathematically eliminated, when your team cannot make the playoffs, when you have to start telling dudes like, man, bump all that, like I'm doing, you see the way I'm leading? I'm out here because end of the day, the iron of sky don't lie. If you. If we losing games, we gotta be able to come in here and watch the tape and it not be my fault. That's what it's not gonna be. You know what I'm saying? So having to have these conversations with other grown men in situations where coaches are trying to figure out if they gonna get fired and I'm just like. And I'm just trying to ball. I'm here to hoop and that's really kind of all that matters. So that, that's when you.
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A
So what you're saying is you.
- [41:34]
B
You're not going to be in a winning spot with a team only meeting, I feel, I think.
- [41:40]
A
Yeah, yeah. So what you're saying is like, when it came down to it, the personalities of the players that y' all were picking led to them being a little mentally weak, if not a lot mentally weak. And they just didn't have the internal fortitude to push through. So y' all had to do a players only meeting to try and rah rah them, to get them, to get them going. That's kind of what I'm hearing.
- [42:12]
B
Yeah. What I mean, it's not exactly that, but yeah, it's time. I mean, some. You. I don't know. Debo, have you ever been in a. I've been.
- [42:21]
A
I never been in. I've never been in that situation.
- [42:24]
B
You know what I'm saying?
- [42:27]
A
I've been to Pittsburgh.
- [42:28]
B
It's definitely some situations where we've been into that have been kind of off where, you know, you just gotta really. End of the day, it is a business. But the iron, the sky don't lie. Your resume is what you put on tape. So when you want to be a professional, end of the day, you go 0, 16. Those are. I mean, I've been 1 and 15. Those are not stable organizations. Coaches know that they're about to get fired. People are walking into the spot not knowing if their job's, like, secure or not. So that's where you end the joint. I know I'm, I'm here, I'm ball. I'm doing what I got to do. And it's not. The problems are over your head. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why I look at Chicago sometimes. Sometimes your job is to do what you do. You come in there to do your 1 11th, you know what I'm saying? If you're a quarterback, you'd be the best quarterback you can do. You come in there, you train your own time, and you think that your coaches and the organization are competent enough to put you in the position to win. There's not things that you need to be handling that you start handling when you're in a position where the other people aren't doing it. You know what I'm saying? So that's just kind of where I don't. That was my particular situation. And when I'm looking at, from the Dolphins, I'm not in that locker room, but when I'm hearing, like, these dudes looking like, man, I don't want y' all just people just out of there. Like, I, I don't care. But at the end of the day, you're just trying to. The situation may not be the best, but what you need to do is come out here, you have to perform. Your, Your job is NFL.
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A
I understand what you're saying. Like the players only. I'm with you on that. As far as a players only meeting, I think, I think you, you, you've lost it. Now we got a, A players only meeting. That means that the leadership that is in place, who would be, you know, your, your coaches, your head coach, your coordinators, that they aren't either. Given what is going to be needed to, to move forward and, and produce a different outcome. Yeah, I don't, I don't think the players only meeting does anything. I think anybody that had a players only meeting, they probably lost their coach in a year or two. I don't know how many coaches did y'.
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B
All.
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A
After a players only meet and lose.
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B
I mean, we probably. I haven't been a part of too many players only me. It's probably about two, probably about two or maybe three. And each one of the coaches definitely was fired.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't think a player is only meeting. I think it'll. It could help. But if I gotta. Like, you're a Grown man in a professional sport, this is your livelihood. It should be nothing that's going to like, mentally take you out of it. Like, yeah, physically, you could get hurt, all the other stuff. But, like, you got to go out there.
- [45:05]
B
You can see how, just, just, just how if people not rocking with playing time, you can see how I do this a professional. It could be like this. I'm not rocking with it. We losing. Y' all tripping. You know what I'm saying? I'm not rocking with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, that is people do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, they not locking they playing time.
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A
Yeah, but, but a player's only meeting would not be something that a player that is this disgruntled about his playing time, that wouldn't be a player's own. I mean, that would be a head coach thing. You see what I'm saying? Like, you're. When you do a players only meeting, you're saying that the majority of my team is out here talking about we are down bad and this is getting ugly. What just happened behind me? Did my light go out?
- [45:48]
B
Oh, I didn't peep.
- [45:50]
A
I think it did anyway. Go ahead.
- [45:55]
B
No, but you not used. You look straight.
- [45:58]
A
No, I think my light just went off. Somebody. Somebody tell me my light went out. I think my light went out in my life. It had to. Yeah, my light went out. That's what it was. Yeah, my light went out. Oh, my goodness. Dude, this is. This is out of control, man. I'm gonna have to fix that before. Before things get. Get too dark in here. Do it look good still, Joe, he's still solid.
- [46:23]
B
Debo. He's still solid.
- [46:24]
A
Yeah, I'm solid. That's all I need to make sure, man. I want to make sure I was solid, man.
- [46:28]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
- [46:30]
A
This is what happens when you, when you.
- [46:32]
B
I'm not a fan of the players only meanings. I don't feel like you need. Like, that's when you're not in a, like in a good spot. Like, like you said, if you haven't been a part of one, that's good. That's a good thing.
- [46:43]
A
Okay, well, if you had to do something to research this team, what, what would you do? What. What would you be? What would be your first step in trying to get the Dolphins back on track? I.
- [46:58]
B
First, it starts with tua. I don't. I don't. I'm. I'm not. I'm not the biggest TUA fan. I'm not the biggest tour fan. I I don't know. He's never been my favorite quarterback. I don't know how. I don't know if they could. I don't know if they could build around him. And then with Tyreek Hill too, they just not getting along. I think he needs to. He might have to keep. They might got to do something with him too. I'm just. Miami, the coach. We had their coach. He was the coach. He was the wide receiver coach for me when we were in Cleveland. Great, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant mind. I think he might be one of the best. Maybe. Maybe just put him in an offensive coordinator role. I don't know if he's ready for the head coaching spot. I mean, he was doing a great job, but I just think just letting him just do one thing and let somebody else maybe come and be a head coach. I think they made it a new voice. That's just my thought. What do you think?
- [47:50]
A
That's. Yeah, that's. That's where I ain't gonna lie. I don't. You know, that's where I would go with it. I would. I mean, for this year, I think you just roll out what you got going and try and try and finagle it. Yeah. Some way shape or form. But I think it's time just to.
- [48:11]
B
It's a lot of noise going on over there, man.
- [48:16]
A
So much. It's not one thing that I could do that would just make it happen.
- [48:21]
B
Like too many moving parts right now going on over there.
- [48:27]
A
And then. Yeah, you can't. Well, you could get rid of Tariq, but then what you got now it's about to get real bad.
- [48:35]
B
Look, rebuild. Get as much as you possibly can.
- [48:40]
A
You said, go ahead, man.
- [48:41]
B
Go ahead, go ahead. Not like I'm saying in a bad way. Tyreek Hill is great. That's where they'll be able to get some good stuff for him. But he's not happy. He don't like what you think they.
- [48:50]
A
Could get for him, though. Would you. What would you give for Tyreek?
- [48:55]
B
What would I give for Tyreek Hill?
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A
Yeah.
- [48:59]
B
Two first round picks. Ooh. Yep. Cause I know I got him, but I got him. Yeah. I gave him two first round picks. He gonna be an instance. He gonna instantly be a. He's instantly gonna be. Still cheated. Tyreek Hill. It's not his fault.
- [49:15]
A
You see him, you see him. You see him being able to make it back to Kansas City.
- [49:20]
B
I don't know about the relationship, man. I'd like him to come to Pittsburgh. That'd be crazy. I heard. I Heard rumbles that they offered him something.
- [49:32]
A
Speaking of Pittsburgh, buddy, Aaron Rodgers could surpass Brett Favre for career touchdowns on Sunday. I will be at that game, dude. I will be at that game. Roger says thrown for a 507 regular season touchdown passes, far retired with 508. He could pass him in that game. All he gotta do is throw two of them tutties, man. If Rogers throws two touchdowns on Sunday against the Seahawks, he'll tie far for the fourth. Fourth one touchdown, sorry. He'll tie fire for the fourth most in NFL history. If you throw two, he go take him over, obviously. So Rogers actually. Oh, he got a long way to go before he gets to Brady. Brady got 649 regular. Yes. Yes. Second is Breeze with 571, followed by Peyton with 539. I guess Rogers has a chance to pass Peyton, though. We'll see.
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B
6:49 is crazy work.
- [50:34]
A
Out of control, dude. Out of.
- [50:38]
B
Uncle Tom was launching them joints, dude.
- [50:43]
A
I tell you what, man, I wanted that. Like I said before, I wanted to hate that dude. When I went there, man, just because. Just playing against him. Never met him, never, you know, knew of his person, nothing. You know what I'm saying? And I get there as soon as I get there, you know, like I said, he the first person pop up. Hey, man, how you doing? I'm Tom Brady. I'm like, man, I know who the. You're coming up to me, like, talking like, you know, introducing yourself. You know what I'm saying? So I'm sitting back, I'm like, yeah, let me watch him, man. I know he's fake. You ain't trust me, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I knew. Let me sit back and watch this. I know he's fake as hell.
- [51:18]
B
He.
- [51:18]
A
He trying to set me up. I sit back, man, I'm watching him, man. Same thing, dude, you know, practice squad dude come in, you know, just watching him all week, seeing him move around, dude. And I'm sitting there and he's on the table, like, next to me, and I'm like, yo, I got a confession to make, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. When I wanted. When I came here, man, I wanted to hate you. I said, but you a good dude, man.
- [51:40]
B
I see what everybody like, man.
- [51:44]
A
And he messed with everybody.
- [51:46]
B
Like, I'm happy to hear.
- [51:48]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [51:50]
B
But I'm at. Do you think. Obviously. Do you think he's gonna. You think you being there? You think he's gonna break the record? You think? I mean, not Break the record. But pass Brett Favre.
- [52:00]
A
Oh, yeah, dude, he ain't that far.
- [52:02]
B
He only needed though, one to time and two to pass him.
- [52:07]
A
Yeah, he go. He go get. He go get far. No matter what that's going to happen. The one that. I think it's. Yes, that. That's gonna be very. That's. That's gonna be. I think that's gonna be a little questionable. He still have to play more if.
- [52:24]
B
He, if he do that or you think he going.
- [52:27]
A
He threw. Hey, listen, he threw four last week. On average of four games.
- [52:35]
B
Averaging for a game is crazy work.
- [52:37]
A
Listen, that was just, that was just, you know, that was the average. That's what the average is right now, right, for a game. So I'm going as.
- [52:46]
B
That's 68 touchdowns through 78 touchdowns through.
- [52:52]
A
Through. Listen, through 17 games, 68 touchdowns ain't what. What we talking about. It's possible.
- [53:01]
B
It is possible.
- [53:02]
A
He averaging four right now.
- [53:04]
B
Today, right? As of today. As of today, he's on. He's on. He's on target for 68.
- [53:09]
A
He's on pace.
- [53:12]
B
He's on 68. And if he gets 68.
- [53:14]
A
68. Touchdown.
- [53:15]
B
You heard it live. He gets 68. He passing Drew Brees too.
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Aaron's on pace.
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If he gets 68. He passed the Drew Brees and Peyton Manning.
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Yes, that's. I mean, that's where it's as of pace right now.
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As a pace. Make sure you say as a pace.
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Right now because that's as of pace right now. My man Aaron Rodgers is on. On for 68 touchdowns.
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If he averaged three, Debo, he had 51.
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Hey, bro.
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Averaging.
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I ain't gonna lie to you.
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Averaging three is hard too. That's what I'm saying. You said four. I know, I know. I've ever heard you had.
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You tried to drop it down like it was realistic. I'm just up here talking hella boat.
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Okay, okay, okay. My bad. I'm trying. I'm just.
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I know because we, we got.
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I'm a numbers guy. I just got to see what it looks like.
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Speaking of numbers, the number one overall pick, Cam Ward's debut didn't look great. They. They. But they failed. Whoa. But they failed to tell the whole story. Worse completion rates was affected by mistakes from his head coach, plus several drops from his receivers. The quarterback, however, hasn't lost confidence in his past catchers. He says, I'm never going to go. I'm never going to get on these guys for dropping the ball. I'm going to Throw a pick at some point in the season. So bad plays are going to happen. The biggest thing is when we get back to the huddle, we have to always have a next play mentality. I'm not, I'm not too worried about that. These boys are going to play, these boys are going to catch the ball. What do you.
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I like the young quarterback believing in his guys. I saw him out there when I watched the game and I think he has a great presence. And like he said too, they were dropping some good passes that he was throwing to them in the fourth quarter, like trying to lead them back. So I just love the way he still believes in them. He knows he's a young quarterback. He's going to have, he's going to have bad times when he needs them to believe in him, be like, pick him up. So same time just not putting his, his teammates, like not, not, not not being mean to his teammates or like throwing them under the bus. I think that's a sign of a good quarterback. That's like building confidence in those guys. So they want to do, they want to do better for him. And the same time, like we said earlier, they feel terrible. They want to make those plays. So not jumping on them, adding to it when you know these dudes care, they feel bad your quarterback is standing up for you. So I think in the future they're going to try to work a little harder, obviously, and hopefully those, hopefully they catch those passes. But this is a good sign of him just being a good leader.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I 100 agree with you on that. Especially, you know, him saying that, you know, it's going to come a point in time where, you know, he's not gonna, he's not going to be doing as well and you know, he's hoping he's going to get the same, you know, treatment that, you know, you treat somebody how you want to be treated, you know, he's going to be there, you support him. He's hoping they'll, they'll do the same thing for him. Great, great, great, great person or mentality to have as a quarterback. Especially when you're, you know, you're the QB and you're the leader of that. That, yeah, it can, it can't get any, any better than them. But before we get to the ticket winners, we got some super chats, Joe. Lisa lynch donated 20 instead.
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Go ahead, Lisa Lynch. Shout out. Lisa.
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Lisa.
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Lisa Lynch. Cook.
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She said. Love you too. God bless.
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God bless you too, Lisa Lynch.
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God is good.
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Yes, he is. My good Man. Brother. Debo.
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God is good. Come on.
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All the time.
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Okay. And all the time. God is good. There we go.
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What, you thought I grew up in the church?
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Debo, let's go. Okay, so listen. Drum roll. If I drum this thing, this thing might fall. The moment we've all been waiting for. Our two ticket winners.
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Joe.
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Winner number one, full name. No, we're gonna go with Instagram. We're gonna go with all of it. Jane.
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Jane.
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Big Dingman. Instagram. Still city underscore. JD you are the first winner of two tickets to the Stillers season opener. As we go in there and pound the life out of the Seattle Seahawks. DK, go. Come out of there with probably a buck 75. Three tugs and Roger, go throw another one to somebody else to go. My average of four touchdowns. All right, so.
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Whoa.
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Here we go. Winner number two, Olivia Rainey. Instagram short 185. She's a short 185. Instagram. You are the second winner of the two tickets to the Stiller season. Open with the bus.
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Shout out to James. Shout out to Olivia. Shout out to James. Shout out to Olivia. Congratulations. Y' all are gonna have a blast.
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You. You guys are really going to have a blast. It's going to be a great time had by all. And we go ball. And see, I'm getting. We. I'm getting French again.
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So.
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So this is what we want you to do. We wanna. We really want to thank you guys for joining us for this episode of Debo and Joe.
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What we gonna need y' all to do, we're gonna need y' all to hit the like button and subscribe to.
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This thing right here. Y' all don't want to miss nothing, man. Like, we doing real big things around here.
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I just lost my voice.
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I'm so sorry about that. But y' all know we'll be back on Monday. Hey, Joe, Take it from here, baby.
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Okay. Oh, my goodness. Debo, do you. Yeah, you take care of your voice, man. Make sure y' all like and subscribe to Debo and Joe. Thank you guys for coming in. You know, see y' all on Monday.
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This is an I heart podcast.