Club Shay Shay – Deebo & Joe: REACTION to Steelers BIG LOSS to Bills, Shedeur vs. 49ers, Broncos Survive Commanders
Date: December 1, 2025
Host: James "Deebo" Harrison & Joe Haden
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts & Shay Shay Media)
Episode Overview
In this candid and passionate episode, NFL veterans James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Haden break down the Pittsburgh Steelers' crushing loss to the Buffalo Bills, analyze coaching and schematic issues plaguing the franchise, and react to key storylines from around the league — including Shedeur Sanders' performance against the 49ers and the Denver Broncos’ dramatic OT win over the Commanders. The discussion weaves sharp on-field analysis with raw locker room perspective, offering Steelers fans a voice that mirrors their frustration while spotlighting football culture and competitive mindset.
Steelers vs. Bills: Gut-Wrenching Breakdown
Opening Insights and Defensive Struggles
- [01:37–09:13]
- Deebo and Joe recount attending the game together, calling it fun in spirit but disappointing in result.
- The Bills, missing two starting tackles, “tipped their hand” toward the run game, but Pittsburgh remained in nickel packages, putting pressure on DBs to stop the run.
- Deebo:
"We come out in nickel first play. Cooks goes 19 yards. Why? We got a crack replace. They're going to make our corners tackle them one-on-one." [02:30]
- Joe laments missed tackles and questionable personnel use:
"Why are we in that defense?...That right there, that's not a—need another backer." [06:19]
- Praise for individual efforts (like the Echoes interception) is muted by repeated communication and schematic errors.
Offensive Shortcomings
- [09:43–13:05]
- Steelers offense can't capitalize on stops. Missed throws, three-and-outs, lack of execution on key downs.
- Joe on missed deep shot:
"He had him beat for sure by a good two steps...you gotta hit one." [07:26]
- Deebo:
"We can't afford to miss stuff like that...Defense comes out after they force a three and out. That's, you know, that's..." [07:34]
Halftime and Second-Half Implosion
- [13:10–17:30]
- Bills’ defensive TD (strip-sack) flips momentum instantly ("sacked into the depths of hell" – Deebo [13:10]).
- Schematic woes persist, notably with Pittsburgh’s nickel defense getting gashed by the run:
"Bro, we done gave up 125 yards rushing at halftime." [12:53]
"Dude, they ran the same play, like, 20 times, brother." [12:14] - Bills chew clock and grind out a 26-7 win.
- Joe:
"We got big issues." [17:30]
Coaching and Scheme: Tough, Personal Critique
- [17:31–29:40]
- Deebo delivers a scathing assessment of the coaching staff, laying blame on schematic deficiencies and lack of player development.
- Quotes:
"I have never been a person that thought Coach Tomlin was a great coach. I thought he was a good coach." [17:57] "A great coach gets you to play beyond your potential...Keith Butler was my linebacker coach, and he got me to play beyond my potential. He was a great coach. Dick LeBeau was a great defensive coordinator." [19:15] "Right now, the only history we’re making is being the worst Pittsburgh Steelers team statistically almost in the history of the organization." [24:01]
- Joe echoes the confusion:
"If your corner coach, your...everybody has to be speaking the same language...that's not going to work because...People aren't moving fast." [28:31]
- Discussion gets emotional about losing Renegade moment and fans booing:
"That was one of the saddest times I for sure have ever been in that stadium when they got the booing Renegade." [29:40]
Around the League
Shedeur Sanders vs. 49ers – Young QB’s Growth
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[31:26–37:06]
- Joe:
"I think he did still good...He didn’t play great...but he’s making steps." [31:30]
- Praises Shedeur’s poise but wants to see faster decision-making and better pocket presence.
- Deebo:
"That comes with time..." [32:10]
- Joe:
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On the sideline spat between Jerry Jeudy and Shedeur:
- Joe:
"It just kind of rubs me the wrong way a little bit...You had Dylan throwing you the ball in the dirt for...and you didn’t [show] the same energy." [34:16]
- Both defend Shedeur’s media answer deflecting blame from coaches:
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"That was the most perfect response to the question..." [37:06]
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- Joe:
Locker Room/Coaching Culture — Recurring Theme
- [38:07–41:19]
- Discussion of coach-player communication, consistent systems, and how bad coaching manifests in player confusion and on-field hesitation.
- Joe:
"Everybody has to be teaching the same thing...if your defensive line coach has to be A...no matter who tells you it, period." [41:03]
- Deebo:
"It's confusion...telling you where there’s confusion, there’s just disruption." [41:08] "What are we doing here?...What color is that? Black or white? Ah, it's gray." [41:25]
NFL Culture: Trash Talk & the Fine Line
Wildest Trash Talk Stories
- [41:37–48:01]
- Joe and Deebo trade stories of the worst trash talk and what’s out-of-bounds — most notably, family and kids.
- Joe:
"Everything is mostly go except for, like, kids and family...When you start talking about family, personal things like family and my kids...it’s off limits." [42:31]
- Deebo:
"If you had talked about my kids...I promise you, I'm gonna find out. I'm gonna still on you soon as the game over..." [43:09]
- Joe:
- Fun anecdotes about notorious trash talkers like Michael Crabtree.
- Joe and Deebo trade stories of the worst trash talk and what’s out-of-bounds — most notably, family and kids.
The Punter Threat
- [46:44–52:08]
- They riff on the absurdity of a Jaguars punter allegedly threatening to "kill" an opponent.
- Joe:
"He gonna get cracked back though. I'm gonna hit him like Sean Taylor did." [47:01]
- Deebo:
"The fact that you threatened to kill me as a punter..." [48:07]
- Joe:
- They riff on the absurdity of a Jaguars punter allegedly threatening to "kill" an opponent.
Broncos vs. Commanders: Overtime Drama
- [52:11–56:32]
- Nick Bonito blocks Commanders’ 2-point conversion in overtime to secure a wild Broncos win (27-26).
- Deebo and Joe laugh over overtime ties and debate best (and worst) ways to end a game:
"We've been here too damn long. I've been sweating. I've been fighting for my life...and you're gonna tell me up. Even. Even." [53:43]
- On the Broncos’ Super Bowl hopes:
- Joe:
"Nope. I ain't got nothing." [55:06]
- Deebo:
"You gotta have something on offense or your defense has to be just outlandishly, like, great. And it ain't that on either side." [55:34]
- Joe:
Play or Fade: Monday Night Picks
- [56:38–58:43]
- Deebo's Monday Night Football lineup: Drake Maye, Stefon Diggs, Henderson (more); Jackson Dart (garbage time production).
- Joe decides to play with the picks after Deebo’s trash time explanation.
"We need every one of them yards. So I'ma go ahead and play with my dog." [58:35]
Fan Questions & Closing Rants
Steelers’ Coaching & Future
- [59:11–71:25]
- Superchats fuel further, sometimes heated, discussion on Steelers' current situation, Mike Tomlin, and the death of hope for this proud franchise.
- Deebo:
"Right now, what we are getting here from Mike right now is not conducive to what the Pittsburgh Steelers are used to...this is not what the fans want." [60:11] "What do the fans have to look forward to on a Sunday now?...Now you go there and you get let down and you get beat down even more and you got nothing to go back with but more of nothing." [62:11]
- Joe:
"Stillers, not having hope is not good." [62:00]
- Deebo:
- Discussion about locker room accountability, film study attendance, “OGs” influencing younger players, and the importance of hands-on coaching from people who played in the league.
- Superchats fuel further, sometimes heated, discussion on Steelers' current situation, Mike Tomlin, and the death of hope for this proud franchise.
Notable Quotes & Moments
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On Scheme Deficiency:
"It's 100% schematically deficient, bro. And it's players in positions that cannot execute the role of that position." — Deebo [17:57]
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On Coach Tomlin & Hope:
"My hope is gone." — Deebo [62:06]
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On Steeler Fan Experience:
"You get to go out there...and let your frustrations out because you feel as if when you're watching your defense out there and they're punishing people, that's you punishing people because you done put in all this work...and now you go there and you get let down and you get beat down even more and you got nothing to go back with but more of nothing." — Deebo [62:11]
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On Coaching Consistency:
"Everybody has to be teaching the same thing...If your defensive line coach has to be A...no matter who tells you it, period, A is A." — Joe [41:03]
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On Trash Talk Limits:
"Everything is mostly go except for, like, kids and family." — Joe [42:31]
"I'm gonna find out I'mma still on you...I'm gonna try and knock all your fronts out." — Deebo [43:09]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 01:37 — Show proper starts, recapping game night vibes
- 02:18 — Initial defensive breakdown & critique of nickel personnel
- 05:13 — Missed offensive opportunities
- 09:43 — Second quarter defense/offense exchange
- 13:10 — Momentum shift: Sack-fumble TD, turning point
- 17:31 — Deebo’s emotionally raw critique of coaching and scheme
- 29:40 — Renegade boo-ed; emblematic of fan frustration
- 31:26 — Shedeur Sanders game assessment
- 34:16 — Jeudy vs. Shedeur sideline dustup
- 41:37–48:01 — NFL trash talk: personal lines, stories
- 52:11–56:32 — Broncos OT win, tie game debate
- 56:38 — Play or Fade segment: MNF picks
- 59:11–63:02 — Fan questions, on Tomlin, hope, Stiller pride
- 66:04–70:35 — Coaches, OGs, player prep, & teaching with nuance
Tone & Takeaways
The tone is frank, sometimes raw, with Deebo and Joe blending locker-room banter, Xs-and-Os breakdown, and genuine emotional investment in the Steelers. The hosts spare no feelings when criticizing the coaching staff, lamenting the erosion of Steeler identity, and voicing the pain of a proud, legacy fanbase. Their insights pull no punches, but also circle back to a core football love and respect for player/coach relationships done right.
Summary in a sentence:
A must-listen for Steeler fans and football diehards craving honest locker-room talk, this episode delivers hard-hitting, unfiltered takes on the state of the team, leadership woes, and what real winning culture looks like.