Deebo & Joe - Steelers COLLAPSE vs. Bears, Shedeur WINS 1st Browns start, Cowboys UPSET Eagles

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Deebo & Joe – Steelers Collapse vs. Bears, Shedeur Wins 1st Browns Start, Cowboys Upset Eagles

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Hosts: Deebo Harrison (James Harrison) & Joe Hayden
Air Date: November 24, 2025
Episode Focus: In this spirited and incisive episode, NFL legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Hayden break down a wild NFL weekend, including a painful Steelers loss to the Bears, Shedeur Sanders making history for the Browns, and the Cowboys' comeback win over the Eagles. Both hosts offer expert analysis, raw reactions, and plenty of locker room stories, all with their signature mix of candor, humor, and passion.

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Episode Overview

Deebo and Joe dissect the Steelers’ defensive and coaching breakdown against the Bears, celebrate Shedeur Sanders' historic debut with the Browns, and analyze the Cowboys' explosive second-half performance over the Eagles. The episode is brimming with detailed play breakdowns, inside-the-locker-room perspective, and takes on NFL coaching decisions—delivered in authentic, straight-talk fashion.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Steelers vs. Bears: Steelers' Defensive Failures and Frustration

• Breakdown of Key Drives & Defensive Problems

  • Bears exploit Steelers’ D repeatedly with play-action and efficient rushing.
  • Recurring theme: poor tackling, inability to reroute receivers, linebackers picking up wrong coverages, and consistent failure to adjust at halftime.

• Missed Opportunities

  • Deebo and Joe lament missed interceptions and crucial drops.
  • Turnovers not capitalized on; opportunistic defense can’t cover up for broken schemes.
  • “We, dude, we…We can’t be losing these opportunities. We’re not that good to miss these opportunities.” (Deebo, 14:05)

• Coaching and Scheme Criticism

  • Deebo highlights that basic defensive fundamentals like rerouting and jamming receivers are being ignored.
  • “We just sit there and stare at the quarterback and let the dude that’s five yards away from him just sit there and do nothing.” (Deebo, 24:30)

• On the Steelers' Identity

  • The deep frustration at how far the team has fallen from its hard-nosed reputation.
  • "Putting that uniform on don’t make you a Steeler…you gotta earn it." (Deebo, 32:17)

Key Segment: Steelers Defensive Critique (23:01–32:36)

• The hosts passionately debate why the Steelers' highly-paid defense isn't executing basic assignments, railing on current coaching staff and players' lack of discipline and energy.

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Browns: Shedeur Sanders Makes History

• Shedeur Sanders' First Win

  • Breaks decades-long rookie QB drought for Browns.
  • "He made history, bro. It’s been since 1995…he didn’t play a perfect game, but…being able to throw that ball, that 52-yard pass bro. On the run, on the money." (Joe, 34:43)
  • Locker room audio shows team rallying around Shedeur even if the coaching staff seems less enthusiastic.

• Team Reaction & Internal Dynamics

  • Subtle tension over Browns’ head coach Stefanski’s lack of overt support for Shedeur—hosts read into locker room tone.
  • "Am I tripping, or did he change his tone? Hell, yeah, a little bit. Like, he did a little…yeah, like a little side man." (Joe, 37:26)
  • Miles Garrett breaks his own sack record (18 sacks in 11 games), with 10 sacks by the team vs. the Seahawks. Excitement about defensive potential.

• Coach Stefanski's Ego and Future Decisions

  • Criticism that Stefanski seems intent on “winning his way,” possibly to detriment of team chemistry.
  • “He’s gonna fight this until he can’t fight it no more…to his own detriment.” (Deebo, 42:00)

Key Segment: Browns’ Locker Room & Stefanski Analysis (35:35–42:12)

• Authentic locker room audio (“Stayed resilient together...How about that defensive…10 sacks by our defense!”), hosts break down shifting tides in Cleveland.

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Cowboys vs. Eagles: Second-Half Fireworks & Wideout Ascendance

• Cowboys’ Explosive Comeback

  • Detailed stats on Dak Prescott’s second-half performance and the impact of George Pickens.
  • “For almost 200 yards…Pickens came out in the second half, only four catches, a hundred yards, bro.” (Deebo, 43:19)
  • “This man has paid himself into the biggest bag ever…He wants all the smoke.” (Joe, 44:05)

• Defensive Additions Paying Off

  • Free agent pickups and their immediate impact in the trenches.

• Eagles’ Struggles

  • Questionable game management and under-utilization of offensive weapons.
  • “Like, the second half…they don’t really do much, bro. They’ve been doing this for a minute.” (Deebo, 45:50)

Key Segment: Cowboys-Eagles Breakdown (42:34–45:29)

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Giants Collapse, Coaching Decisions & Locker Room Reactions

• Giants’ Overtime Blunder
  • Critique of late-game play-calling: not kicking field goal up three, poor clock management.
  • On the coach: “You have to be dumb as a box of rocks. And that is why you were relieved of your duty.” (Deebo, 49:21)
  • Reaction to a player’s (Malik Nabers) posted—and quickly deleted—critique of the play-calling: “Listen, bro, you not missing nothing.” (Deebo, 50:29)

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Play or Fade – Monday Night Picks (53:11–58:19)

• Fun host segment where Deebo and Joe debate their Prize Picks selections, going back and forth on prop bets for players like McCaffrey and Kittle.
• "The only one I’m watching is George. I hope he gets off early…just for my mental." (Joe, 57:10)
• The playful, brotherly rivalry comes through as they rib each other on their NFL bets.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Defensive Fundamentals (Steelers)

  • Deebo: “We’re not doing the basic things of rerouting a receiver…How do you think you’re going to stop anything?” (23:01)
  • Joe: “Just the normal things, like you said, Debo. They need to do that better. They need to re…there’s no reason why we shouldn’t be rerouting the receivers.” (27:17)

• Steelers’ Franchise Identity

  • Deebo: “Putting that uniform on don’t make you a Steeler…not even Ms. Rooney signing your check. It’s the work you put in.” (32:17)

• Celebrating Shedeur’s Debut

  • Locker room audio (35:39): “Another rookie making his first start, nice job, Shedeur. Well done.” — Browns Coach

• Player-Coach Egomania

  • Deebo: “I think Stefanski is one of those coaches that want to win his way, period. At whatever cost.” (39:02)
  • Joe: “Are we really trying to win? I’m Miles Garrett. I’m here. I’m obviously trying to win…you going to sit here and play in my face? Oh, you got me messed up, coach.” (39:25)

• On the Cowboys’ Wide Receiver Situation

  • Deebo: “If you think you’re gonna keep George Pickens and he’s not going to be paid more than CD Lamb, you are out of your mind.” (43:33)

• Locker Room Honesty

  • Joe’s Cleveland draft story: “I know my one…we drafted my good friend Leon McFadden right before Honey Badger…I said, oh, no, we don’t want to win.” (52:34)

• Defensive Coaching Legacy

  • Deebo: “If Dick LeBeau come back, I come back…genius, James, bro. Genius.” (65:24)
  • Joe: “No, Dick LeBeau got it all in the dome.” (66:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Steelers Defense and Fundamental Issues: 02:43–18:14, 23:01–32:36
• Shedeur Sanders’ Historic Browns Debut & Locker Room: 33:06–36:49
• Stefanski & Internal Browns Tension: 39:02–42:12
• Cowboys vs. Eagles Second-Half Flames: 42:34–45:29
• Giants OT Coaching Gaffe & Locker Room Fallout: 49:21–52:34
• Play or Fade (Prize Picks Segment): 53:11–58:19
• Defensive Coaching Legacy & Closing Chat: 65:00–67:14

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Language, Tone & Chemistry

• Original Tone: Unfiltered, passionate, hilarious, and tinged with the tough-love of NFL veterans.
• Chemistry: The back-and-forth jabbing, in-jokes, and real-time reactions make it as entertaining as it is informative.

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Takeaway

Deebo and Joe offer a masterclass in modern football breakdown, never shying from hard truths—be it weak coaching, underperforming units, or failing schemes. They also celebrate emerging stars (like Shedeur Sanders and George Pickens), provide rare locker room perspective, and serve up laughs alongside strong analysis. It's a must-listen for NFL diehards and casuals alike—the voice of two legends staying real to the game.

Transcript

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[Deebo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing lovely today, Deebo. You see, I'm Cleveland down to Indians. We got the Cavs, we got the Browns, but the Guardians now. But you know, I'm just, I'm all, I'm geeked.

[Deebo Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie to you, man. I got on this brown. I got on some dookie Brown right here. You know what I'm saying? Okay, but shoulder.

[Joe Hayden]

Sure.

[Deebo Harrison]

Respect, you know what I'm saying? He went on out there and made history.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, he did.

[Deebo Harrison]

My Browns didn't. I mean, I mean, sorry. My stuff appreciate Browns.

[Joe Hayden]

I appreciate. I hear you, Debo. You getting used to.

[Deebo Harrison]

I used to be a Browns fan. You know, I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm from, from Akron. So I used to.

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Okay.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

So why do you act so different to the Browns then?

[Deebo Harrison]

Because when they left, you left.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[Deebo Harrison]

And they went to Baltimore and they fought to keep those terrible colors. I was like, no, I'm going to the next. To the next thing. And that was. That was the Steelers. I was okay by then, you know, they had, you know, had Greg Lloyd and all them boys over there, Kevin Green. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay. You know, at that time. So that's. That's what. That's what ended up happening. But, you know, the Bears beat our Steelers.

[Joe Hayden]

You know, that's the.

[Deebo Harrison]

We fought. I mean, we fought, but we came up short, man. You know, it ain't. It ain't no big to do. We can get back out there and do it again. Do it. Come back with a better result.

[Joe Hayden]

Baby, I like it. You not that.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, I ain't tripping, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen, okay, listen.

[Deebo Harrison]

The Bears got out there. They ran the ball on the first two plays. We gave up a yard the first play, three yards on the second play. We got to that third and six, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Could have had a pick.

[Deebo Harrison]

Could have had a pick. Duggar broke that thing up.

[Joe Hayden]

They did.

[Deebo Harrison]

You know what I'm saying? If Caleb was on target, he's constantly off target. You know what I'm saying? If he was on target, we'd have had it. We still got a tip to it. Still had a chance to get to it. We ain't get it. So we punt. It's three and out. I ain't tripping still. Let's get the ball. First play, baby. Game. Well, he go ahead. He get nine, bro. Second down, bro. Yes. We get an interception.

[Joe Hayden]

Waist down, we just threw.

[Deebo Harrison]

Waist down. We just throw it.

[Joe Hayden]

Just threw it up.

[Deebo Harrison]

What are we thinking? We throw a 50. 50 ball. Are you serious? What did I tell you on Friday? What was they number one in Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Interceptions, Interceptions, Interceptions. Taking the ball away.

[Deebo Harrison]

What the fraggle rocker? Rethinking it.

[Joe Hayden]

It's a waist down. It was one on one on the outside. He thought he had DK under throw.

[Deebo Harrison]

Listen, trash throw. Not under trash.

[Joe Hayden]

Pitt.

[Deebo Harrison]

Let's get back out there. The first play is incomplete. Cause Caleb is inconsistent. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

He was open.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes. No question. Open the second one. He had to avoid the rush. And why are we all rushing on one side? Yeah. What did I say?

[Joe Hayden]

Balance lanes. You said balance pass lanes.

[Deebo Harrison]

Let him scramble. He is fifth in rushing in the. They don't design plays for him to rush. That means he's scrambling yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, Debo, exactly. Rush lanes. We can't.

[Deebo Harrison]

I told. I said I want to go get. Yeah, you.

[Joe Hayden]

You started off chill and now you already. But yep, keep going.

[Deebo Harrison]

That brings it to third and one. They end up converting the first down. The first down they go and get five running the R. They get another nine with half the D line. Two yards deep. Yeah, two yards deep.

[Joe Hayden]

They getting pushed, babies getting pushed back. And. And that's what was setting up that play too, Debo. They kept running that running. They kept running the ball. And then off the play action. The linebackers are coming up and those bang eights are right behind their heads. He was. Every time he was running, it was them bang eights play action to right behind the right. Right over the linebackers heads.

[Deebo Harrison]

Next play, they hit one for Caleb. Caleb actually makes. He get. He get. He get about 1720 yards, something like that. So the ball is what, like at the 11 is second something. They get it. We get a PI.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, but.

[Deebo Harrison]

But we get a PI. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

That was good defense by P Dub. He wrapped his arm around. He had. So it was. It was close. Man. Man. A little bang bang.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. First and goal five. They scored.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep. Good route.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay. All right.

[Joe Hayden]

They scored off the top, but I'm tripping.

[Deebo Harrison]

I ain't tripping, but I'm tripping. We can't put out a fire. Situational. What do we have a problem with situational football? We got to go out there as the highest paid defense in NFL and put out a fire. Yeah, please, please.

[Joe Hayden]

Offense turned it over. So let them. Let's just. Let's just save them real quick. Field goal. Can't give up seven. I'm with you a thousand percent, Debo. Thousand percent.

[Deebo Harrison]

Let's get the ball back first play. Jalen, go ahead, get one for about 12. Warren, go ahead, get that thing going. We convert another first down in between there on that next first 21 today. Boy. Ben up there. Nice. Nice.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

What was it? The Wildcat.

[Joe Hayden]

That was a wild gang.

[Deebo Harrison]

Well, the second was another five. We converted to another first down, you know what I'm saying? We get the third and two. We get a nice little 13 on a short pass to gain. Well, he.

[Joe Hayden]

Another swing pass. Bro, this whole drive was swing passes, everything. Swing passes and jets and quick handoffs, quick dumps.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, yeah. We convert another first. We gonna head first down, hit DK7. Seven. Yep. Hey, that was nice. I ain't gonna lie. 13 plays, 95 yards, almost eight minutes, brother. And.

[Joe Hayden]

And that was. That was Legitimate dink and dunk the whole way down the field. That one, we had the one over out that he caught with 15. My man, he had the one over for like 15 yards. But besides that, it was jets and it was screens getting into the people's hands quick. So that was smooth. That was the best. That was. That was the best drive for show of the day.

[Deebo Harrison]

Oh, no question. And then we come right back, they get the ball, they kick the ball. We kick the ball off, they get a holding penalty, which pushes them back. And then on the first play, they get another hold which pushes them back any even further, an incompletion. Cause we had some pressure on him. Then TJ goes on second down, gets that seven back that we gave up. Sack, fumble, recover for touchdown. It's seven to 14, brother.

[Joe Hayden]

And that's what I'm talking about. Deebot with the defense end of the day, like sometimes Bimba don't break. You got to score. But we, we score, we gonna be able to turn the ball over. We gonna be able to not only turn over, but get points. This offense on the bench, we got a touchdown. Like that's good shit by the defense.

[Deebo Harrison]

No question. No question. Hey, listen, but the Bears, what was that? They go ahead. They got like maybe. What was it, 17 on that second and 10, like, to the tight end.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. Yeah. Yes. He had the little. When we had our little. Our run stop in line, guarding him.

[Deebo Harrison]

Why?

[Joe Hayden]

That's just, you know, that's a little. I don't know, it's a couple. It was a couple matchups that we had in the game where I'm like, why are these people guarding these people? Why do I receive it? Why is our out outside linebackers guarding their number one receivers?

[Deebo Harrison]

First down. Caleb scrambles for five. I think we get him to like a. A third and two.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[Deebo Harrison]

And we forced the fumble. Fumble.

[Joe Hayden]

In the ruckus.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

And I couldn't see nothing in there.

[Deebo Harrison]

What else did I say we had to do? We had to get.

[Joe Hayden]

We had to get. Turnover.

[Deebo Harrison]

This down. Now we done got a turnover too, dude. So what is it? First down. I think it was Washington. We finally.

[Joe Hayden]

Washington. We finally gave him the ball.

[Deebo Harrison]

Why. Why weren't we throwing him the ball all night? I don't know.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Deebo Harrison]

I don't know why we weren't throwing it to our tight ends.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no.

[Deebo Harrison]

I mean, it was a few pass. But anyway. Anyway, we get to fourth and one, we do the push, push. And we don't Convert.

[Joe Hayden]

Brother. Brother. Debo, was that the slowest developing tush.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude you've ever looked? I thought he had dropped the ball and was trying to pick it up.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. It was like nobody was moving. I'm like, oh, no, this is crazy. That was the worst tush brush because nobody like you made sense. It looked like he might have been fumbling, trying to get the rock. Cause it was like, you gotta go.

[Deebo Harrison]

I don't know what's going.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know what happened on that one yet. We ain't.

[Deebo Harrison]

So it's turnover on downs. Defense has to get back out there. First play, Caleb trash. High throw.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[Deebo Harrison]

Second one, we pressure him, he gotta throw it away. On third down, he hits Loveland for a nine yard game. So now we in an issue with the 4th and 1. Yep. They gone ahead and do the little quarterback, keeper, lead blocker.

[Joe Hayden]

That, that, that was, that was the kind of. I mean, that was kind of good. That was a little bit. That was, that was a solid play.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, it was a solid play.

[Joe Hayden]

But I, Yeah, I. Jaylen still got on him too.

[Deebo Harrison]

On that, on that, on that reverse that came on that second down, bro. I would have fired on Williams while he out there trying to like, he leave like. Yes, yes, yes, that bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes, yes. He's setting himself up to get fired on.

[Deebo Harrison]

Thank you. You should. It's free game.

[Joe Hayden]

It's free game. It's free game.

[Deebo Harrison]

You're not. What are we doing?

[Joe Hayden]

He's running out there like, he looking like he like he about to try to go home.

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm like, who you hunting for, right? Who you hunting for? I. Dude, I ain't gonna even lie to you. I might have literally been like, yo, I'm gonna let somebody else make this tackle. I'm gonna go ahead.

[Joe Hayden]

I got some other business.

[Deebo Harrison]

I got some other business to tend to right now. The next play, Herbert, he go ahead, get a nice little tackle for a loss.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

Get through there. Then we give up 22 because we are letting people run free free.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta put hands on number two. That's my dog, P Dub, on this one. P Dub, I love you, You're a baller, but you gotta reroute number two. He's just running scot free straight down the field. You gotta reroute him. Like, that's just, that's just what it was. You gotta reroute him. You gotta put hands on him. You gotta push him outside.

[Deebo Harrison]

That leads to a third down, 12 yard touchdown to Loveland. It's 14:14, bro. Yep. Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Loveland. That was a good route. One on one. Gave him a little something, but like. Yeah, that's. That's football.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, it's football. I understand what you're saying.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta make the point.

[Deebo Harrison]

So the Steelers get back out there, baby. Hey, we go ahead, hand it to the. Hand it to Warren. What he get? He get nine on the first one. He gets six on the next one. And then we going in. False start. Yeah. Third and 11. Austin made up for it. He got. He got 10 of the 11.

[Joe Hayden]

10, 11.

[Deebo Harrison]

I ain't gonna even lie to you, bro. I'm sitting here like, yo, we about to.

[Joe Hayden]

We about to run that slow ass Tish push again, bruh.

[Deebo Harrison]

But they faked it in the round. Tush push, fold it.

[Joe Hayden]

Fold.

[Deebo Harrison]

I thought it was a touchdown, but they ended up saying he, you know, he hit that little hand right there. But it wasn't no big deal. Warren came back on that next Play. Touch. So 21:14. We back in it. We back in it. We back in it. Bears get out there. First play, we get an int. But we off sides. Almost said you all side. So. Yeah, that ended up leading to like a third five, where they picked up 10, you know, a second and nine. We dropped another Drop the pit Dugger. That.

[Joe Hayden]

We gotta have that. We gotta have that. We gotta have those. We gotta have those. We gotta have those.

[Deebo Harrison]

We, dude, we. We. We. We can't be losing these opportunities. We're not that good to miss these opportunities. In the very next play, they go ahead and pick up 19, which leads them to getting a field goal right before halftime. Halftime. It's 21:17. Yeah. Bruh.

[Joe Hayden]

That was upsetting, man. We got to close out those drives, like the turnover and keep them out the end zone. And then before half, like, just don't give up no points, baby. We got this. And then it would have been. That have been legitimate. 6.

[Deebo Harrison]

Easy, easy, easy. We get back out there.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

Convert. Like the first down in the beginning of the third quarter. And then the next first down, we get sacked. The next play is almost picked. It's. It probably should have been picked because it was in his hand. We end up hunting Chicago comes out the very first play.

[Joe Hayden]

And this is the play I'm talking about.

[Deebo Harrison]

It's behind him, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

It's behind him. And that's Herbic guarding the number one receiver in the slot. So even if it was a DB that was a little bit behind, he could break up that pass because the pass was so far behind. If you was in the range, you could have broke it up. So that joint was the one that kind of threw me. Why do we have Herbic in the slot? Guarding buddy. That worked him, dude.

[Deebo Harrison]

And right after that, I think they hit another one for about 15. But they got a penalty for taunting, right? Thinking cool. Like, we get them in like second and 20.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. That don't matter. Screen.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah, they gonna hit Swift. He gonna shake us for a hot little short pass that went. Went 14, 15 yards and third and sixth, 25 yard. Touchdown to more.

[Joe Hayden]

We are at cover three again.

[Deebo Harrison]

No re routes on anyone.

[Joe Hayden]

No reroutes. There's nothing Pierre can do. You got two vertical routes on you. You're the corner, your inside man. You gotta punch and widen. That's what it's called, punch and widen. Cause if you don't do that, how am I supposed to be splitting these two vertical. These two vertical receivers? You gotta push him to the outside to make him closer to Pierre. If you don't, he's running straight down the middle of your defense, wide open like he did. So that's a punch and wide. And that's a reroute. That's just. That's that scheme. You gotta. You gotta. You got to reroute that player. That's just a. That's just something, though, when you tape.

[Deebo Harrison]

It's simple. That's simple.

[Joe Hayden]

It's nothing like, hey, bro. No, it was there. It's like, no, no, that's your man. Punch him.

[Deebo Harrison]

Re.

[Joe Hayden]

Reroute that, man. You see him running right up on you.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hit him. Yo, that's.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta do.

[Deebo Harrison]

We. Listen, we don't get. We. We let Caleb go 5 or 5 for 75 because he picked up the extra yardage from the penalty. Like with a. We down now 24, 21. Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Quit.

[Deebo Harrison]

We get out there doing the first play, we get eight and that's it. Three and out.

[Joe Hayden]

Eight, zero.

[Deebo Harrison]

Finally the defense comes back and stands up. We get a three and out.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes. On that first attempt, too, you see Pierre fighting through the hands. That's how you finish the play. I love that.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Love that.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes. We get back out there, second down, we get a PI. Which give us like 27 yards, something like that. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Then the next play, we. We get hit for a loss of what, two, three. Yep.

[Joe Hayden]

Two yards. They met Warren in the backfield, and.

[Deebo Harrison]

Then it's a sack fumble because somebody decided to leave the tight end one on one with the same dude that caused the sack before nigga that he was playing against. Why are we let he's a tight end for a reason. I don't give a Damn if he 3 11. 3 Letting don't mean nothing if he can't block. Why are we letting the tight end go one on one against the same dude that beat him on a sack? The sack before. Sack fumble.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[Deebo Harrison]

Covered the ball. Yep. Defense comes out there and shits down her leg 20 yards on the first.

[Joe Hayden]

Down on that damn play. The play action play action deep sits. These are only two receivers out there on the field, Debo. So they keep running this. They running bang eight. They're running bang eights right behind the linebackers or they're running deep ass sits. You know what I'm saying? So they're running play actions as ball. They're running good plays, but like, I don't know what's going on. They got us off. They got us off rhythm.

[Deebo Harrison]

They score again, it's 31, 21. We come back out there, we put together 17. Play dry. It's cool. It's cool. We had one nice play of I think it was like 20 yards. Yep. Everything else was seven yards and under, but we scored. Yeah. 31, 28 took almost eight minutes off the clock.

[Joe Hayden]

It took a very long time.

[Deebo Harrison]

I mean, a long time. And the defense comes out, it stands up. They did what they needed to do. We get back out there, bro. It's third and four. Mason scrambles for 22 and we get it called back because we can't even line up right. What'd he say? Do the routine things routinely, huh? Stop. We can't even line up right. We end up having to punt the ball. I'm nervous. I ain't gonna even lie.

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[Deebo Harrison]

The defense stands up again and it don't really matter. We got a minute 20 left. We got a minute 20 something left. Whatever it may be. It took us eight minutes to go anywhere the last time because we can't throw the ball down the field no more than five yards.

[Joe Hayden]

Unless we gonna get a PI.

[Deebo Harrison]

Unless we go get a PI, we end up turning over on Dallas. Game over with yeah bruh. Defense soft.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, I'm Tebow.

[Deebo Harrison]

Seeing the offensive lineman pushing our D line two three yards deep. We're undisciplined or poorly coached or both. We have a horrible defensive scheme. It's trash. It's garbage. We can't adjust at halftime. It's non existent. Or we're just being out coached. Or both. They're adjusting better than us. We're in cover two, three, four zone defenses, man. And we're not doing the basic things of rerouting a receiver. Yep. How do you think you're going to stop anything? He's going to hit the ball in the hose. You're stressing your safety. You're keeping the quarterback's timing, bro. If you reroute the receiver, you actually get a defense anywhere from like a half second to get to the quarterback. Because now their timing is off. Yep. If you jam him, he now can't throw the route on time. And sometimes, most of the time, half the time, anytime, they'll run their route short because they got a time in their head when they know they need to be at the point they need to get to. But if they can't get there, they want to be able to turn to make sure they can at least help the quarterback so that he can throw it. I'm not seeing enough people matching people in their zone.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[Deebo Harrison]

We just sit there and stare at the quarterback and let the dude that's five yards away from him just sit there and. And do nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

Sudden change and turnover on downs. We can't put out a fire. We're situationally trash. We gave up three touchdowns. Yeah. Interception, the fumble and the turnover on downs.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

We can't do the routines. Routine. The routine things routinely. The offense is trash.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay. I'm seeing Mason Rudolph getting the same numbers as Aaron Rodgers. So you're telling me that these two quarterbacks have the same talent? Hell no.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no.

[Deebo Harrison]

So that means the offensive scheme is trash. The coordinator is trash.

[Joe Hayden]

It looks. It looks.

[Deebo Harrison]

Starting linebackers for them had a total of 60 snaps under their belt. None of their starting linebackers was there. They had five tackles, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Five tackles.

[Deebo Harrison]

One of them was a rookie they just brought up from the practice squad. You telling me we gotta run misdirection, a bunch of motion plays to try and confuse them because they're new into it. Because we can't just run the ball down they throat, bro. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo I this what I'm g. Tell you I was. I would. I wouldn't go with our defense being trash. Our defense is opportunistic. We get turnovers.

[Deebo Harrison]

They're doing.

[Joe Hayden]

But like when you say, what rank are we?

[Deebo Harrison]

We're not even in the top half.

[Joe Hayden]

Internal in turnovers.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, we number one in paying, though.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm not expecting our office to do nothing. We spent all the money on defense.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

We knew our office was what it was. Damn.

[Joe Hayden]

Well, okay, well, if you putting it this. So the defense. This is what I'm gonna Say the run game, you're saying exactly right. We can't be getting pushed back. The pass game. I see our defense playing better when they're playing man to man. The zone stuff though, Deebo. The things where people are running where you're not.

[Deebo Harrison]

How are we playing better in pass defense if we're not doing the things that are routine? That is a automatic. You put your hands on receivers, you jam them, you disrupt their routes, their timing.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

So who is telling them or who is not correcting them on not doing this?

[Joe Hayden]

I would never say that. They never. That's what. That's what's.

[Deebo Harrison]

I know.

[Joe Hayden]

That's being taught. It has to be being taught though, Debo. But they're not doing it.

[Deebo Harrison]

Why are they consistently not doing it then?

[Joe Hayden]

I don't.

[Deebo Harrison]

If you're not doing it, you either can't do it or won't do it. Either way it go. I need to get you out of there.

[Joe Hayden]

You need to get out of there.

[Deebo Harrison]

Because it's not being done.

[Joe Hayden]

I feel you.

[Deebo Harrison]

I feel you.

[Joe Hayden]

I wouldn't say. I would say with. Yeah, just the normal things like you said, Debo. They need to do that better. They need to re. There's no reason why we shouldn't be rerouting the receivers. But on offense, like I say too, like you said, you don't put them any credence because you know they were supposed to not be good. But I'm just saying, like scheme wise. All we're running is jet sweeps. All we're running is quick screen passes.

[Deebo Harrison]

All we're running is we knew the offense was what it was, bro. Yes. Mason rudolph went what, 24, 31. Oh, that's great. Six passes was behind the line of scrimmage, bro. Seven of them I don't even think went beyond five yards. Or was it 11? I don't know. I could have probably did that. We had five passes that went beyond 10 yards of airtime. One of them got picked and one was complete. That's it. You telling me that this ain't got nothing to do with coaching? This ain't got nothing to do with none of that?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, it definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely.

[Deebo Harrison]

And no, we are not firing Mike Tomlin. So give that up. The man has not had a losing season in the history of his head coaching career. This is what I want you people to understand so y' all can stop saying that. This is why it's not going to happen. There has not been a coach in history that has done that and been fired not even just been fired, not been renewed. Okay? But it's getting damn close to looking like we might be doing that. You understand?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

And I, bro, and I tell you this. I tell you this, though. If that happens, it's going to be some furniture moving. It's going to be some furniture moving in the off season. If we mess around and have a losing season, I guarantee you it might be a whole new offensive and defensive staff. The only person that's going to be there is Mike Tomlin. I guarantee you that. Mike Tomlin going to be there, though. Yeah, he gonna be there. That's no question. Steelers don't just out and go. They don't just out and go. They not. They not go. Let him go. Grass ain't always greener on the other side. But you mess around and have a losing season, they don't see what the. What the grass look like. Somebody to open the door so they can walk in there. Now, they may sit back and wait. It may not be a renewing of the contract. I don't know how many years ago I would have got year two left. Whatever. Oh, they may. They. They may then sit back and wait. We on year eight without a playoff win. Chuck. No. 23 years. Only went four years without a playoff win. Bill Cower, 15 years. Only went three years without a payoff win. We the Pittsburgh Steelers. We damn sure ain't looking like it.

[Joe Hayden]

She. Well, Debo, I hear you.

[Deebo Harrison]

I hear you.

[Joe Hayden]

And you know what? I respect it. Cause you know what it is? You trying to get them boys back to what it was. And defense doesn't show what y' all was doing back in the day. I mean, this is the problem, bro.

[Deebo Harrison]

The reason why everybody thinks.

[Joe Hayden]

Go ahead.

[Deebo Harrison]

That when they put on that uniform.

[Joe Hayden]

They now it just instantly turned nice.

[Deebo Harrison]

No, no. It's work that come with that.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta put the work in. It's just not. It's not like an Iron man costume. You just don't put it on top of button.

[Deebo Harrison]

It's not given to you. You gotta earn it.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta earn it. You gotta get it out the mud.

[Deebo Harrison]

Everybody think they put the uniform. I'm a Steeler.

[Joe Hayden]

Nope.

[Deebo Harrison]

Nope, that ain't it. Ryan Clark could tell you when he was playing. When he was playing, Ryan Clark went on ahead, put somebody did his thing on the field. And. And that's when I ran over to R.C. say, hey, you are still in. Now, R.C. said that was something he didn't even know he needed to hear. But you know what RC Was putting in that work. I'm like, yo, that's a stealing. You know, the greatest compliment you can get is from one of them old school guys, Mel Blunt. Yeah, you could have played with us. I don't think it's too many people they could say that to now.

[Joe Hayden]

No, I feel that. I feel that. No, no, I feel it. Debo, you right. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a legacy. It's a. It's a. It's a standard, like you said. But. And then when you. You just can't be thrown around.

[Deebo Harrison]

Standard is 500 right now.

[Joe Hayden]

No, let's be honest. No, no, I'm saying.

[Deebo Harrison]

When.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm saying the standard is when you.

[Deebo Harrison]

Why, why.

[Joe Hayden]

Why you get so mad is because you talking about when you hear standard is championships. It's when you were there with the boys, you was there with Troy and Wood, and y' all really developed some stuff. You had dick the bow that really was teaching the schemes, and y' all was. No, this is what it is. You, you, you. You just aren't a ste. You got to work, you got to grind, you got to earn it. So you being this mad and just. Just dispassionate is just because you know what it really means when they say that stuff and you feel like they're just throwing shit around. But, like, that y' all took to the heart and that y' all meant, like, this is what it really means to be, you know, I'm saying where we at so I can understand and respect a thousand percent. Where you coming from?

[Deebo Harrison]

Putting that uniform on don't make you a stealer.

[Joe Hayden]

Don't make you iron.

[Deebo Harrison]

Not even. Not. Not even. Not even Ms. Rooney signing your check. It's the work you put in that just means you employ, period. A lot of people play. Not all of them were Stillers. Let's go to the. Let's go to the Browns, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, man. Let's go, Browns.

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm gonna let you go ahead and take off on this show. I know you want to gloat. Cause I see with all your. I see with all your Cleveland gear.

[Joe Hayden]

On, I just got.

[Deebo Harrison]

I got Cleveland out.

[Joe Hayden]

I got the champ, the Cavs. I got the good old Browns. I got the good old Guardians. Now, all I can say is, Deebo, that game that we went and played, so we're gonna. You wanna do the breakdown of the whole game?

[Deebo Harrison]

Go ahead. We. We could go through it. We can go through it.

[Joe Hayden]

We go ahead, pop off. So I know, you pop off here.

[Deebo Harrison]

Now, you know what I'm saying? Because when it came down to it, this is what happened. The defense sacked the hell out of Geno all night.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh my goodness. It got comical. Deebo bruh.

[Deebo Harrison]

Out of control.

[Joe Hayden]

10 times 10. What is he supposed to do, Bruh?

[Deebo Harrison]

I the. I don't know bro. It's they sacrificing him. He getting sacrificed, man. I understand he missed a lot of throws. I understand that they drop some too. Yes, but your offensive line is. They, they, they. That was.

[Joe Hayden]

The offensive line was embarrassing. They was sacking that dude left and right. Getting hit upside the head. They were dropping the ball. Geno missed a couple of passes that were the first joint of the game that they had that could have easily been, you know, 50, 60 yard completion. You know what I'm saying? So started them off the wrong way. I was really, really, really happy that Shador was able to go out there, get a dub. You know what I'm saying?

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, he made history.

[Joe Hayden]

He made history, bro. It's been since 1995 we my 00:17 when the quarterbacks go out there and start so he didn't play a perfect game. But when we try to see progress and playing better from 4 to 16, you know what I'm saying with a pick and then just being able to develop, be a little bit more comfortable, see some passes. Being able to throw that ball, that 52 yard pass, bro. On 38.

[Deebo Harrison]

On the run.

[Joe Hayden]

On the run, on the money.

[Deebo Harrison]

Show me. Show me where Gabriel has done that. Never.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't.

[Deebo Harrison]

Matter of fact, on the 66 yard touchdown pass, that was a swing, that same pass. They have identical setup where he just.

[Joe Hayden]

Threw it over the man.

[Deebo Harrison]

That wouldn't have been a touchdown.

[Joe Hayden]

Debo.

[Deebo Harrison]

Thank you. Thank you. But you can't decide and right now you want to just work with this, you know on who you know who you gon start. You can't get no decisions. Do you really think that that team at locker room is going to let you go back? Like matter of fact we had a sound dude of what he said in the locker room. What's the things he said in the locker room. Run that for us please.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me get that.

[Deebo Harrison]

Stayed resilient together like I told you we needed to. Right? Stay resilient together and we fought together. How about Gage's big punt return on specialty. How about Corey every single time you're out there pinning those guys, doing your job.

[Joe Hayden]

Great.

[Deebo Harrison]

Offense. Wasn't perfect. Wasn't perfect. How about that big play by Sam at the end. R. Huge play. Q. Huge play. Harold making a big play. And then another rookie making his first start. Nice job, Shedeur. Well done. There's that old saying, save the best for last.

[Joe Hayden]

How about that defensive.

[Deebo Harrison]

Holy is what I have to say about that. 10 sacks by our defense. 10 sacks. Okay? I got one ball in my hand. Okay. I got a guy, he's got to get a cold every week. Okay? He had a cold this week. Wasn't feeling himself three sacks, which gives him 18 on the season through 11 games. Through 11 games, which breaks his own Browns record. Miles Garrett.

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[Deebo Harrison]

So I'll see you guys in tomorrow. Hey, I'll see you Wednesday.

[Joe Hayden]

Nicole.

[Deebo Harrison]

Victory, victory, one of the victory Mondays.

[Joe Hayden]

Victory, victory, victory Monday, baby.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey.

[Joe Hayden]

See you on Wednesday.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey. Hey, Shador. Good job. Yeah, I know you was out there.

[Joe Hayden]

Good job.

[Deebo Harrison]

Damn. How you feel? How you. How you feel about that? You think he should put a little more emphasis or. I mean, I just. I feel like I felt energy all through that until he got to Shador. That's just me, Debo.

[Joe Hayden]

Am I tripping, or did he change his tone? Hell, yeah, A little bit. Like, he did a little. Yeah, like a little side man.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, you gotta.

[Joe Hayden]

If you. If I ask you, Debo. Hey, man. Hey, you just. Just a random. Hey, how you. You. You like Jake? I can tell if you like, yeah, I like Jake. Or like, yeah, Jake cool. Or you could tell from a demeanor of a delivery of how you really feel about a person. So what I'm saying is it just shows me so much more. Like Miles Garrett. You should get Miles Garrett 40 game balls. He should get it. You should give him more than anything. Miles Garrett don't need or want. He wants you to. Actually, I could tell the team was looking like, damn, he's really giving it to Miles Garrett. He glazed over after. He really just glazed over.

[Deebo Harrison]

Him.

[Joe Hayden]

He brought the punter that. Punted it from the punter yard line and. All right, good. Good job, kid. I mean, that's nice. Okay. Shador Sanders was the first rookie quarterback to start. We went over 17, and he went out there and you know so much about the stats. You know, how long.

[Deebo Harrison]

How long ago was that?

[Joe Hayden]

1995.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

So we got Miles Garrett, and just even when we had Stefanski's press conference or after the game thing right there, then when you have Miles Garrett, did you see when he threw the pass and how happy and how hype he was to be like. Like, I never seen the pass this good in my life. He's like, I didn't even know where he was throwing it to. Having your best player, that hype and knowing like his offense could really have a quarterback that can really throw the ball downfield. We might, we can actually score points on offense by the ball going like past five yards. The excitement in Miles, I think, dude.

[Deebo Harrison]

I think Stefanski is one of those coaches that want to win his way, period. At whatever cost. It may be at whatever expense. He wants to win it his way so he can make himself right.

[Joe Hayden]

But I'mma tell you this, Deebo, isn't it a point that where you start making yourself look silly like to your team?

[Deebo Harrison]

100%.

[Joe Hayden]

You can't walk into that locker room now. And after that game, Dylan get ragged, right? Shador's still starting. I don't give a damn. Just because now he has another week of practice. He's getting his feet under the ground. We saw he threw another. He threw a pick, but he threw 11 for 20. I like what he did. Went a lot more good than bad. Same thing we were doing with Dillon. Like, okay, it's Shador's time. So what we're going to do is embrace this man, help him out. Not saying, like, everything was good, but you know what? Miles Garrett sees the same thing. I see if you come in there and you got your best players on your team, it's like, man, we got a dude that can really throw. Like, okay, offense, we haven't been doing good this whole damn year. What's the point of. Are we really trying to win? I'm Miles Garrett. I'm here. I'm obviously trying to win. When we don't do good on, oh, I'm still going out there fighting. The defense is fighting, scratching, trying not to give up nothing. And now we really got a chance on this side. And you going to sit here and play in my face? Oh, you got me messed up, coach. Like, I really can't rock with you. You're doing it for selfish purposes instead of the team we're trying to win. It has nothing to do with you. Zero to do.

[Deebo Harrison]

He's sitting on the side like, yo, we can actually get 50 yards in one play. Oh, my God, he's so happy.

[Joe Hayden]

He's so hyped.

[Deebo Harrison]

Not to mention he snapped something that was history for us. On top of that, bro, they also snapped a 13 game road losing streak. But he, he didn't say nothing about that.

[Joe Hayden]

All that, all that, all that. And my man. And you, you know all these stats. You know Miles Garrett's Stats, you know that he's 18. And the brokers, you know exactly how y' all are.

[Deebo Harrison]

Owing 17, you know, five sacks away from breaking the record. Do you think he gets it? You know what? I'm going to answer it for you. Hell yeah. He get it?

[Joe Hayden]

Hell yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

Playing San Francisco, I think they got like 19. Tennessee, they don't allow 45. Chicago is 17. Buffalo got 26 right now. And then they play us. We don't. We don't. Gave up 34.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on.

[Deebo Harrison]

And then finish with Cincinnati at 24. He only need five sacks in, what, the next six games. Six games. Even one sack of game, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

He got 14 in the last four, bro.

[Deebo Harrison]

He can mess around and destroy that record and make it to where ain't nobody gonna be able to touch that thing for. Until they add two, three more games.

[Joe Hayden]

Damn right. 18 through 11 games is crazy.

[Deebo Harrison]

Bruh. That unheard of. Yeah, unheard of. So.

[Joe Hayden]

Yep. And it looks. But how you think, though? For real? For real. Do you think Stefanski, like you said, you say he's trying. He's doing it the selfish way. He wants to win his way. And that's basically what it is.

[Deebo Harrison]

100%, dude. 100%. He's going to fight this until he can't fight it no more.

[Joe Hayden]

I mean, right now, the pain.

[Deebo Harrison]

And I think he's going to fight it to his own detriment.

[Joe Hayden]

To his own detriment.

[Deebo Harrison]

Staff fired because his ego is more important than anything else.

[Joe Hayden]

I would just tell Shador Ball out. Keep doing what you got to do. And just as if.

[Deebo Harrison]

If you. If.

[Joe Hayden]

When you win, say it's the team. If you lose, blame it on you, because people are going to always. We're going to give you praise on the outside. Just keep on. Just keep getting it, brother. Keep, keep, keep getting it.

[Deebo Harrison]

And you know how. Oh, man. Anyway, let's go on over here, man. The Cowboys beat the Eagles. Them boys came back from being down 21 eggnog. Mikey won, bruh. And did what they had to do. Yo, I think Philly scored on, like, their first three possessions. That's it.

[Joe Hayden]

That's it.

[Deebo Harrison]

Peep game on this, though, bro. The first half, I think Dak was only like 13 of 17 for 159. The second half, he only completed 10 passes. So he went 23 for 36, right?

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

Finish with 354. That's 10 completions.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Deebo Harrison]

For almost 200 yards.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes.

[Deebo Harrison]

And you know how that happened?

[Joe Hayden]

Bombs and gp.

[Deebo Harrison]

That Man, Pickens came out in the second half, only four catches, a hundred yards, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

He's a beast.

[Deebo Harrison]

Listen, hey, hey, Whoever, dance. Listen, George. Whoever. Yo. Dallas Cowboys. Them. We, them boys. Y' all are out of your mind. If you think you're gonna keep George Pickens and he's not going to be paid more than CD Lamb. You are out of your mind. Yes. It is not happening.

[Joe Hayden]

Tebow. This man has paid himself into the biggest bag.

[Deebo Harrison]

Biggest bag ever.

[Joe Hayden]

Biggest bag ever.

[Deebo Harrison]

Like, he went nine and nine, bro. He threw it at him nine times. He caught all nine.

[Joe Hayden]

He wants all the smoke, he wants all the fade balls. He wants to slants, he wants the digs, he wants the comebacks. He's doing work catching the ball. And like, he's trying to score. Every time he gets.

[Deebo Harrison]

Trying to score, trying to score.

[Joe Hayden]

Get off of me. Little boys. And that's what they saying now. Like, you can't guard them one on one. I'm like this. Honestly, you can't. Honestly, you can't, dude.

[Deebo Harrison]

And then Jerry's little pickups in the. You know, his pickups in the. Before the trade deadline work. Hey, only 63 yards rushing. They was averaging damn near a buck 30.

[Joe Hayden]

Giving up that man Williamson, bro, he's a dog. He really is. His energy, he just be. Yeah, he's getting it. And a couple of plays that the. The center within one second, he just beat him off the line.

[Deebo Harrison]

You.

[Joe Hayden]

He couldn't block him.

[Deebo Harrison]

Listen, you gotta have that. You gotta have that. You gotta have. When you have that, that. That D lineman where you know they need to. That frees up. That frees up other people.

[Joe Hayden]

It does.

[Deebo Harrison]

Especially your linebackers.

[Joe Hayden]

Like what you was.

[Deebo Harrison]

It gives. It gives. It gives your DBs more time, or I should say less time to have to cover. Yes.

[Joe Hayden]

Ain't nothing like it the best.

[Deebo Harrison]

Like, if we jammed up the receivers.

[Joe Hayden]

Same thing.

[Deebo Harrison]

More time to get there.

[Joe Hayden]

Same thing. Rush and coverage work together. We reroute, time is off, lock together.

[Deebo Harrison]

Russian curve, cover work the same way. Yep. My braces.

[Joe Hayden]

What you think about the Eagles, though, Debo? I mean, they go.

[Deebo Harrison]

They start out, baby. Dude, they've been doing this for a minute. Like, the second half, they don't. They don't really do much, bro. They've been doing this for a minute. Like, I just. They have the weapons there.

[Joe Hayden]

They have so much skills.

[Deebo Harrison]

Not using it, dude. And I don't. Like I said, hey, I ain't that invested in the Eagles. I could care less.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, hey, me either.

[Deebo Harrison]

It's your problem. And I'm glad you got it. Okay. Yeah. Let me feel me.

[Joe Hayden]

They got to figure something out.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yeah. Speaking of that, bro, Giants let the Lions beat them in overtime, bruh. It is the fourth quarter. You're up by three. Okay? Now after avoiding a sack on third and long, you get a huge game, bruh. And then you get to what was it? First and goal at the three. Yes.

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[Deebo Harrison]

On. Fourth down, instead of kicking a field goal to put you up six that.

[Joe Hayden]

Make them have to score.

[Deebo Harrison]

And on top of that, they only had one time out. You decide to go for it, don't make it and then lose the game. You have to be dumb as a box of rocks. And that is why you were relieved of your duty. Neighbors had this to say when he a recently deleted post. Do we have that? Can we put that up? Yes, put that up right there. Hey, look, he said, sometimes I think they be making us lose on purpose because there's no way, bro. You throw the ball instead of running it to make them burn. Two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal. Then they have to go down and score football. Common sense. Am I missing something? Listen, bro, you not missing nothing.

[Joe Hayden]

You're not missing nothing at all.

[Deebo Harrison]

You're not missing nothing. And that's exactly why they fired him, right? And they fired the. The. The defensive coordinator. Wasn't he to stand in or something? Was he the stand in head? Because they had just fired your boy. What's his name?

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, Debo. They just. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deebo Harrison]

I think he was the standing. Was he the interim?

[Joe Hayden]

I think so. All I know is I'm not mad at what he's saying right here. Debo.

[Deebo Harrison]

If he ain't the interim, you done fired the wrong person. You need to fire. You need to fire Whoever made that decision. Whoever made that decision need to be fired. They lost you the game.

[Joe Hayden]

Why? Why would you do that?

[Deebo Harrison]

And they only have one time out, bro. One.

[Joe Hayden]

I don't know, man. I mean. And that's what you mean, you don't know. No, that's what I'm saying. I don't know why they did that. They're tripping. They shouldn't have done that. And I said, I don't blame when neighbors write some stuff like that. That's. I mean, you on the team, you're looking at the game. And when things like that blatantly happen, I'm like, why did not we not kick the field? Are we trying to lose this game? Like, are we trying to get a higher draft pick? Like, what are we doing here? Kick this.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, Malik, man, I understand you deleted it, but, man, you know, them boys fast with them fingers. You might as well go ahead and put it back up because they're gonna ask about it.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, you might as well. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta dinosaur now.

[Deebo Harrison]

You gotta stand on it.

[Joe Hayden]

You gotta stand out there for sure.

[Deebo Harrison]

That's football. Like you said, that's football. Common sense.

[Joe Hayden]

It is, because he not lying. I mean, you. You know how they. They never want you talking bad about your own team or putting stuff out there, but it's like, damn, they see it, too. That was kind of dumb.

[Deebo Harrison]

You know. You know how it be when you sitting there like, hey, man, what? That's sitting on the plane. You're like, man, what the hell is they thinking? What? Looking at each other like, man, we lost. Like.

[Joe Hayden]

These niggas got ulterior motives.

[Deebo Harrison]

What's going on? What's going on in here? Oh, everybody know that feeling, brother. Yeah, everybody had that one situation where you like, boy.

[Joe Hayden]

Oh, no, I know my one. When we was in Cleveland and we drafted my good friend Leon McFadden right before Honey Badger, we needed a corner, and Honey Badger was right on the board, and we drafted Leon McFadden. I said, oh, no, we don't want to win. Oh, we're tripping out. We had Honey Badger right here. But I didn't tweet it. I didn't say anything about it. I just left that in my mind until right now. I just had to get that off my chest.

[Deebo Harrison]

You had to get it off your chest?

[Joe Hayden]

I had to get it off my chest.

[Deebo Harrison]

Deebot, you know what? I've been thinking about this for 30.

[Joe Hayden]

I've been thinking about this for a long time. God damn it.

[Deebo Harrison]

Bro. Look here, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir.

[Deebo Harrison]

Now, time for play or fade, presented by prize picks. So here's how it works, all right?

[Joe Hayden]

Okay.

[Deebo Harrison]

I made a lineup of my picks for Monday Night Football.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay. And you'll enter play my lineup.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[Deebo Harrison]

Fade it and tell me why you don't want to go with it and what you go do.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[Deebo Harrison]

So right here, listen, bro, I got McCaffrey, okay? I like easily going over.

[Joe Hayden]

I like McCaffrey. Longest rush, 15 and a half, easy. I like that for sure. Stand on it.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay? Now, I also got Bryce five over. I got him over. I got him more.

[Joe Hayden]

I like Bryce also.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm doing good right now. You're doing good? You're doing. You're doing good?

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm doing good. I'm doing good, baby. Now, the whole reason I got Bryce over Is the defense is, you know, it's decimated. Yeah, I believe he can easily, you know, scramble.

[Joe Hayden]

He's going to have the thousand percent, bro. It's five and a half. Yes. I like him to scramble for eight and a eight yarder. He might get nine.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yo, when they get. They give McCaffrey the ball too much for him not to break one.

[Joe Hayden]

He's the only source.

[Deebo Harrison]

He's Twinkie.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on, Debo. I'm Debo. I'm with you on these top two for sure.

[Deebo Harrison]

You with me on the top two? Well, look here, man. I also also got McCaffrey. You know what I'm saying? For. I got a.

[Joe Hayden]

He goes all the screens, he gets all the dump offs, he gets all the check downs.

[Deebo Harrison]

It's gonna be more.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, I'm with more, baby. I'm with that.

[Deebo Harrison]

You with that? Okay. Okay. Now I got Kiddo, too. Now. This is all the guys they throw the ball to.

[Joe Hayden]

Only one. The one.

[Deebo Harrison]

The only one to get it to Kiddo and McCaffrey if you are going to win this game, period.

[Joe Hayden]

This is the only one that. I don't know what this the only one.

[Deebo Harrison]

You gonna fade on me? On your boy?

[Joe Hayden]

I almost.

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Why?

[Deebo Harrison]

Why, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

You know why? Because, I mean, I just think. I just think Christian McCaffrey gonna get that. Probably had like 80 receiving. I don't know if Kittle's gonna even need to be doing too much. I think it's gonna be mainly just Christian Mc.

[Deebo Harrison]

You. You really believe that they ain't gonna try and key in on him at some point and kiddo ain't gonna get that?

[Joe Hayden]

No. Oh, you right. No, you're right. Let's play it. Play. That's. I'm playing this one. We playing this one. And the only thing we gonna watch when we're just watching Kittle. I hope he gets off early.

[Deebo Harrison]

You saying he gotta get off early.

[Joe Hayden]

I hope he gets off early. Just for my. Just for my work. Just for my mental.

[Deebo Harrison]

Just for you or me.

[Joe Hayden]

Just for my mental.

[Deebo Harrison]

Listen, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie. For the first. For the first one. This is. This lineup.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude, that's only. That's barely a 100, 100 yards between two of them.

[Joe Hayden]

No, you're right. I gotta do my math, right?

[Deebo Harrison]

Yep. Like, come on.

[Joe Hayden]

I think again telling me that's for sure. All right, Debo, I'm telling you, the only one I'm watching is George. I'm being honest. I love the picks.

[Deebo Harrison]

You hating, bro. Never. Deebo. I never thought I'd See the day. No, no, Joe, no, man. Never, never, never go to fading on this boy like that.

[Joe Hayden]

Never been a hater. Never been a hater or the fading.

[Deebo Harrison]

On this boy like this.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, man. We gonna play. Imma play. Look here man, I'm gonna play this life.

[Deebo Harrison]

You go play it. You'll play it all?

[Joe Hayden]

I will play it all. I will play it all.

[Deebo Harrison]

Good then, brother. Look here man, listen. Download the app today and use code Debo Joe to get fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup.

[Joe Hayden]

Okay?

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes, that's Debo Joe. Okay. D E E O J O E. One all together.

[Joe Hayden]

D E E B O J O.

[Deebo Harrison]

E. And you get fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Come on, man. Your mama get it? How? Your papa get it? How your cousin get. Everybody, everybody here.

[Joe Hayden]

We finna hit this late tonight, no question.

[Deebo Harrison]

No question. When Aaron Rodgers coming back, man.

[Joe Hayden]

Man, soon, hopefully.

[Deebo Harrison]

I don't even think it's gonna matter, to be honest with you. Like, I'm looking at the same numbers.

[Joe Hayden]

This one I'm trying to figure out too, Debo. Like you said, we gotta change the route running the, the routes. My dudes are just running slants and.

[Deebo Harrison]

We got the Bills coming up, bro. Yeah, the Bills.

[Joe Hayden]

I like that. It could happen.

[Deebo Harrison]

Well, you know, anything can happen, bro. Anything can happen.

[Joe Hayden]

We just need to stop the run. We need to prepare for the Bills.

[Deebo Harrison]

Like we stop the run. We let Caleb do what he did.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah, he did he do for three tutties, Caleb.

[Deebo Harrison]

Cause we ain't jamming, people.

[Joe Hayden]

We can't let. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta put. We gotta push and widen. We gotta punch and widen.

[Deebo Harrison]

Pdub and coming to the game, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. I am coming to the game. Yeah, Saturday.

[Deebo Harrison]

Okay.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, you coming?

[Deebo Harrison]

You, you, you be out here Saturday. Where you gonna be? Come on through. Come on through the crib.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm gonna pull up on you, Debo. No, for sure, for sure. I get out this Saturday and I'm gonna chill and I probably leave on Monday.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude, if. We'll talk about the rest of this stuff later in the week.

[Joe Hayden]

But that's going to be. That's going to be. It's going to be.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude, look at the lineup, bro. Who we all got left now? Don't forget, the office is playing how the offense is playing. The defense is playing how the defense is playing. And I am not counting on the offense to do much. That's just what it is.

[Joe Hayden]

I know.

[Deebo Harrison]

And now I, I have no Clue what I'm getting from my defense. We.

[Joe Hayden]

Yeah. Yeah. It's. Yeah. You both don't. The loss.

[Deebo Harrison]

Ravens.

[Joe Hayden]

Ravens getting. Ravens getting better right now.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yes. That's what Lions. The Lions who just. They helped dumb coaching over there. But still it's the Lions. They got a two headed monster over there, bro.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, they do. Oh my.

[Deebo Harrison]

The Gibbs is ridiculous the way we getting pushed. I don't. Bro, I'm.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't want to see that. But we could do what we did against Jonathan Taylor. We still have it in them. They still have it in them.

[Deebo Harrison]

How many turnovers was it, bro?

[Joe Hayden]

A lot. But that's what we. That's what they do.

[Deebo Harrison]

We gotta.

[Joe Hayden]

We gotta. We could be living on this.

[Deebo Harrison]

We got turnovers this time and a touchdown. We still couldn't win. Ah. Yeah.

[Joe Hayden]

Cause that's the. Cause that's the offense too. We just hopefully, you know what put Washington back in the game more often. Get it to him, you know. And then at the same time all these damn. I. I just don't. I don't know what. Because there's too many screens, Debo. It's too many screens and there's too many J sweeps.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude, what is this, bro? Apparently OO got a. Got. Got another message for me, Joe? Let's. Let's see what he has to say. Let's listen to this bull spit, please.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, hey, show, show, show Uncle Joe that clip, man.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, chat.

[Joe Hayden]

Let me show you how you supposed to look. Hey, look at this, look at this, look at this. This how it's supposed to look. And look how. Look how smooth. Yo, I don't play, Joe. Okay, Nice and tight everything hand. Hey, handle. Oh, up top. Just real sharp.

[Deebo Harrison]

What you looking at, Joe?

[Joe Hayden]

I. I was looking. I was looking at the chat. I was hoping Devo was in the chat. I just know I'm beat his ass. I'm gonna rearrange his face.

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm gonna rearrange his furniture.

[Joe Hayden]

He think, oh hey, all that muscle, Joe. I'm gonna have him looking so silly out there. Joe with the footwork, man. I'm gonna give him a three piece in a biscuit. Move around. They move around, Joe. Not run away, Joe.

[Deebo Harrison]

Move around. I get you. I got you.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe don't believe his ass either.

[Deebo Harrison]

Hey, man, listen here.

[Joe Hayden]

I love.

[Deebo Harrison]

I love the confidence, bro. I really do. Hey, this ain't boxing. Y' all see hands. I really do. But it don't matter if you throwing popcorn. I'm gonna eat that. We have the movies. I can grab you and put my hands on.

[Joe Hayden]

That's what I'm saying. Y' all aren't bosses is.

[Deebo Harrison]

This is mma. I believe a guy just lost his life. I mean, I would. Horrible, horrible, horrible thing happened. Yeah, I believe it was yesterday. And I don't. I don't want to have to be responsible for what could possibly happen to you, so.

[Joe Hayden]

Neither do I.

[Deebo Harrison]

This. This is what I'm gonna do for you, Chad. If you really want this, we can meet up wherever and we can handle it. But I know you don't want this, Chad.

[Joe Hayden]

You don't want to do that.

[Deebo Harrison]

I know you don't want to do that.

[Joe Hayden]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Deebo Harrison]

Listen here, man. Listen here. Listen here.

[Joe Hayden]

Listen. This for entertainment purposes only.

[Deebo Harrison]

I'm gonna give you what you want if you're looking for it. Hey, it's entertainment. But, hey, listen, I don't know if I can control my anger.

[Joe Hayden]

No, if you.

[Deebo Harrison]

You know, if you actually get a good one on me, because then I might just flip. The old things might come out.

[Joe Hayden]

I ain't gonna lie. He asking for it, though, Debo.

[Deebo Harrison]

He.

[Joe Hayden]

You can give him what you. You can give him what he want.

[Deebo Harrison]

Dude, I. I can't. I can't. I can't have a man life on my hand. My mama told me I couldn't do it. I ain't gonna even lie to you. That's real talk. Yeah, she said you. She said you really. You. You.

[Joe Hayden]

You really go fight that boy.

[Deebo Harrison]

You know, you go hurt him. He. He too little. He. And he don't mean what he say. They say. They say he be playing all.

[Joe Hayden]

He just be playing a lot.

[Deebo Harrison]

I say, look here, now. And the man really want it, I'm gonna have to give him what he want. You got to give the people what they want.

[Joe Hayden]

You got to, Debo.

[Deebo Harrison]

You gotta give the people what they want.

[Joe Hayden]

I'm here for it, though. I swear I'll be your first person in attendance.

[Deebo Harrison]

Yo, Joe do, we got a super chat over there.

[Joe Hayden]

Joe do, we got a super chat. I don't got it on mine.

[Deebo Harrison]

I think we got a super chat. We got secure 85. Donate $5 and ass.

[Joe Hayden]

Hey, thank you.

[Deebo Harrison]

What up, Debo And Joe, which D.C. in the game today would you like to play for? And the Steelers should blow it up and rebuild. A lot of money, little results. Which D coordinator would you like to play for today? I'm only playing for one person that's digging the ball.

[Joe Hayden]

If I'm going with somebody in the league right now, though, Debo, if You just want us to have a coordinator. I'll probably go with Detroit.

[Deebo Harrison]

If Dig LeBeau come back, I come back. I'm dead serious. Brian Digley bow come back. I'll coach a Diggly Bow comeback. I'll be his linebacker coach.

[Joe Hayden]

See?

[Deebo Harrison]

Dig the ball cold. How many. How many D coordinators you know stand on the sideline without a call sheet in their hand and tell you exactly what the play that he's going to put out next, depending on what goes on the field? It ain't nobody you got out there. Digo didn't even use a call sheet. Dick Leau don't even have a written whole scheme of his defense on paper because it's all here in his memory. When he would give us the stuff, he. That would be the. When he wrote it down that he would give us our sheets, that we would it. He don't have a master sheet like all these other coaches. They got a master sheet of how they do.

[Joe Hayden]

No, Dick leboga got it all in the dome.

[Deebo Harrison]

He got all in his dome. Dude. Genius, James, bro. Genius.

[Joe Hayden]

Shout out Dick LeBeau.

[Deebo Harrison]

Oh, no. Question 100, dude. If it wasn't a Dick LeBeau, there would be no James Harrison. Without Dig LeBeau, there is no James Harrison. Without Keith Butler, there is no James Harrison. Keith Butler is the coldest linebacker coach I ever had. He developed me. He made me into what I am. I tell everybody that to the day I die. And without Dick LeBeau's defense, I wouldn't be here right now where I'm at. Because the defense that I thought was so hard for me to earn, to learn, rather, was tailor made for me. Once I actually sat down and became a true professional and learned it, this is what it got me. See them right there? You see that MVP right here?

[Joe Hayden]

Yep.

[Deebo Harrison]

Artists.

[Joe Hayden]

Good old trophies, no question.

[Deebo Harrison]

That's what it's about. It's about championships. Every year, only one team succeeds, period. Everybody else.

[Joe Hayden]

Everybody else loses.

[Deebo Harrison]

Look here, baby.

[Joe Hayden]

Come on.

[Deebo Harrison]

We want to thank y' all for joining us on this episode of Jibo and Joe. Make sure you guys hit the like button and subscribe. We'll be back here tomorrow, Joe.

[Joe Hayden]

Yes, sir. Guys, thank you always for continuing to support us. Man, we would not be here without you. Make sure you like and subscribe and catch us here tomorrow. Let's get it.

[Deebo Harrison]

We out.

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[Deebo Harrison]

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[Joe Hayden]

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