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James Debo Harrison
Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host James Debo Harrison and I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today Joe?
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Joe Hayden
Doing good Debo. Doing good. Good Friday. Good Friday. Saw some good football yesterday coming off my and then I went this morning my kids had a little play at school. Saw both of my boys. Man was so good. So I'm feeling good this morning.
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James Debo Harrison
Not going no question, no question. I want to get off top of the more I want to tell my son Henry. He is a Halloween baby. I want to tell you happy 16th birthday. Happy birthday Henry. Love you. Wouldn't be who I am without you. You saved my life, you and your brother. I appreciate everything that y' all do for me and everything that I do for y' all is just what's supposed to be done baby.
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Joe Hayden
Come on man. I love that Debo.
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James Debo Harrison
Let's get into this. Let's get into this Ravens. Dolphins game. Ravens went out there, man, and they put. They put a little something on them. I ain't gonna lie, man. The. The first. The first quarter, I was thinking like, you know, maybe. Maybe the, you know, maybe the Dolphins got a chance. You know, they started off, they had a little short field. They got. They got the ball in midfield with that, with the kickoff, and then he hit waddle on the first play. You know what's so crazy, man? You get. You get the ball midfield now, and you get a good chunk play. You in field goal range already once.
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Joe Hayden
You cross the 50. Now, as soon as you cross the 50 year field goal range. When I was playing with the 35, you were trying to protect the 35. Now as soon as you cross half, you. Then they got three.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, for sure. Baltimore, you know, they're able to hold up after that, and they hold them to three. They. They kick. They kick a field goal. They get three points. And then, you know, Baltimore comes out there and. And Lamar, he had like a little. Little bad throw. I think that's the only bad throw he had on that third down low and outside. So they ended up doing a. Basically, you know, a three and out. And, you know, after you have a few weeks off, you know, that's what happens. You know what I'm saying? They punt the ball, Miami gets it back.
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Joe Hayden
And dude, they started this. When they started. This is like when what bad teams do, you know, I don't.
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James Debo Harrison
I don't. Yes, it is, but they still. This is, you know, the second play. They. They got. They got the fumble force, you know, they ripping at the ball, all that, and. Yeah, understandable, but you still got to be able to hold on to that. They give up the ball right there, and I believe it was in their own territory. What was it? Inside the 20? Oh, yeah, for sure, inside the 20. Baltimore gets the ball. Of course, they go for it on fourth down, and he. He. He throws a touchdown to. To Mark Andrews. And now, you know, it done. It done. Flipp, that was a good defensive play.
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Joe Hayden
No, I wasn't. I wasn't saying that was what bad teams do on that play. That was a good defensive effort. That dude, he ripped the ball out. They were forced tackling. So that was a good play by the Ravens defense. They said they played a lot better in that game, for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
You know what I noticed though, like, soon as Miami got the ball, the first play. Oh, dude hit 19. It was like. They first play, they was like, moving it. You know what I'M saying it was like the first. And then I think later on in that same drive, they got. They got one for like about 22 or something. That was the two big plays in that drive. And they go for it on fourth down. Fourth and one. And again, like you were saying, this.
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Joe Hayden
Is when I was saying what bad teams do. You get the false start and you're getting a little momentum. You're making plays like you're thinking, now we can get another score. Let's get some points on the board. And you get a false start, which throws you all the way off. And then even to make even more worse, you missed the. You missed the field goal.
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James Debo Harrison
No, they made that one.
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Joe Hayden
Oh, made that one.
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James Debo Harrison
I think that was the one they made. No, they made the first one.
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Joe Hayden
You right, they made the first one. He missed this one. So I'm saying, like, yeah, because, you.
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James Debo Harrison
Know, it could have been six, seven. You know, it could have been.
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Joe Hayden
It could have been. And then they. Then they missed. They missed the field goal. So that's where coach had every. Right there. McDaniels was pissed.
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James Debo Harrison
Oh, yeah. That's the first time I seen something out of him. You know what I'm saying?
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Joe Hayden
That was real. I was like, okay. And the other thing was the play calling, too, was looking pretty good. I was loving how they were doing the run passes, was doing that, like, fake handoff. There was a lot of bang eights. There was a lot of, like, posts right behind people's heads. Like, soon as you fake something, he's throwing it on time. So they were doing. They were hitting plays, but they weren't able to capitalize and get any points.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, and Baltimore get back out there. And we hadn't heard from likely, but on that third down, dude, he went on ahead into the first quarter. Hit him for what was about 35, something like that.
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Joe Hayden
Yep. Up the sideline, no question.
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James Debo Harrison
Few plays later, Mark Andrews, that man show up again. 20 yard touchdown. How do you run into it? That play? How do you run into each other? And you're not. You're not looking ahead of you like ain't nobody.
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Joe Hayden
So it's. That's what I'm saying. We used to call the joint. It's saying, no, no, it's called tailpipe. You got to get directly behind your. Behind the tight end. Because if you're directly behind the tight end, if he don't hit it, you won't hit it. If you're on top of him at all.
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James Debo Harrison
They're.
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Joe Hayden
They're trying to make you Collide into each other. And if you don't get directly behind the dude, we do drills, like, deeper. You got to like, on the drag routes on those crossers, if you don't get directly behind your guy, you're going to run smack into somebody because that's what. That's how. That's how the play is set up to do. It's so difficult. You know what I'm saying? So if you don't get directly behind them, you're going to run bam. Just like they did, right into each other. So it's a technique that the dbs, we always get taught that because rub routes, all that. If you don't get directly behind your guy and then come up, then pop up on the other side, you got.
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James Debo Harrison
To do that, no question. Now it's 14:3. Miami gets the ball back. I think Tua. He ended up hitting waddle. I think it was. It was for like 35, 40, something like that. But they called a tripping. That wasn't a tripping.
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Joe Hayden
Dude was not a tripping. He slipped. And did you see how pissed he was?
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James Debo Harrison
Yes.
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Joe Hayden
He has every right to be pissed because the coach is yelling at him. He's like.
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James Debo Harrison
I'm like, as a coach, how you don't look and see. He's telling you he didn't do that. How you don't look and look at the top of the thing and say, hey. Like, hey. Okay, I see it. He just takes off. You know why? Because everybody is under fire over there right now. You know for sure?
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Joe Hayden
For sure.
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James Debo Harrison
That's a huge momentum shift where they don't get that points. Now you add on top of it. You missed three the first time, so it could be six, seven. Now you can't get. You can't get back ahead of the chains. You know what I'm saying? And that could have been a potential touchdown. You know what I'm saying?
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Joe Hayden
No, for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
Potential. 10 points where it might have been 13, 14 after this, but they end up punting. Yeah, that's. That's.
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Joe Hayden
That's. That right there is unfortunate because it's not the fault of the player like the Dawkins. They did what they had to do. That's just a terrible call. But he slipped. He wasn't trying to trip.
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James Debo Harrison
He didn't even swing his feet to either. He didn't even try.
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Joe Hayden
He didn't even kick his leg up. You could tell when dudes are falling, they get that extra kick up. He's falling. He's just falling. And that's all it was, that's like.
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James Debo Harrison
A cut block if anything. Like, I don't understand that. Baltimore get back out there. The Dolphins stand up, they, they sack him on the first play, you know what I'm saying? And then I believe on the third down where dude wanted a, you know, a flag, he gets an unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Joe Hayden
Spazzing on the ref.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, that puts them back, you know, a little, a little further. So they end up punting the ball. Miami comes and they get a good return dude to the 29. Add on top of it, they had a holding penalty. Baltimore did. That's rare. Which gave him an extra 10 yards. Put them at the 29. Like, dude. And they cannot convert and get a touchdown. They go for a field goal and it's six to 14.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah, those. They're not, not being able to get any like real. You're in great field position and then missing field goals, getting out of field goal range, not. And then just not getting touchdown. You're playing against Lamar Jackson, they're scoring points on the other side. You're not going to beat them with field goals.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. And then the defense, they get, you know, well, Miami's defense get right back out there. They force a three and out. Miami get the ball back. They start driving down the field. I think Tua hits Waddle for a nice third down completion. I think it was like for maybe 15 on the third down and then it was another one later on along the way for about 25, 24, something like that. The running back, he got something for about 15, 20, like that. They go for it on the 4th and 2, they don't make it because it just looked like they had some type of miscommunication going on. I don't, I don't know. And right then and there, I don't even know if I go for that. On 4th and 2. Like you kick it, it's 9 to 14. You already, I mean, I understand he missed one, but you, you already had a, had a missed opportunity here and there. You don't want to keep leaving potential.
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Joe Hayden
You know, points out to keep, Keep leaving with nothing. Yeah, you got to leave here with something like.
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James Debo Harrison
Like I got. Yeah, like you said, I'm leaving here with something like I'm leaving. At some point you gotta leave there with something. You know what I'm saying?
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James Debo Harrison
And then Baltimore again, they go out there and Miami's defense, they able to hold up like they doing what they need to do, get you the opportunities to get the ball back and I believe that was when Tua got sacked to end the half. But at the same time, you know, when you look at it, the missed opportunity, the messed up call with the missed opportunity, the missed field goal, like they could actually mess around, had and had been up going into the halftime, dude. Like, like when you really look at it, halftime, it, it could have been something totally different. I mean, Washington was only one of what, six on third down. Only had about 100 yards, 110 yards, something like that. But the big thing is they was one on one in the red zone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he had double yards like 225. The running back was doing them 12 for 67, another 5 for 35 receiving. But they owing two in the red zone, bro.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah. You know how that is, the execution, that red zone efficiency. Once you get down there getting points, seven. If you leave with nothing, leave with zero, you know what I'm saying? Like not getting three points and then you're playing against the Ravens where they, they're scoring touchdowns, they getting down there with Andrews, they're marching the ball and they're getting points off of it. And you know, and they're taking time off the clock. You're not going to have that many possessions in general, so you better use them wisely because they're scoring on their possessions. They're taking clock off, they're taking time off the clock. And then when you get the rock back, you're looking nuts when you can't score.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. And then the second half, Baltimore gets the ball back. They come out and you know, they basically work their way down the field. Third down, Lamar scramble on them because they playing, man, ain't nobody paying no attention.
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Joe Hayden
They can't see it.
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James Debo Harrison
He get 13. Like when you look at that drive, I think he was like six. No, seven for seven. Like ended it with a three yard touchdown. It's. It's 20. It's 20. He didn't even miss. Like it's 21 to six now off rip. Miami gets back out there and now the defense starting to show up. The deep, deep. The, the, the, the, the, the Ravens defense kind of used to hearing about and seeing. So first play, they get a sack. Second, second place, I think it was a negative run.
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Joe Hayden
And then my man, Kyle Hamilton, all them boys, they was getting up in the line.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. They punt the ball, right, you know, right. Back off. And I'm like, whoa. This like, this is like Ravens defense that you've been, you know, you've become accustomed to Seeing like it's looking like that, Baltimore get the ball back. Four plays, bro. They go full play, 60 yards, just. Oh, what? No, just under. Just over two minutes. Lamar bust them again, a hot two for two, 48 with. With one of them being the nine yard touchdown. It's. It's 28 to six and you know, it's not, it's not looking good.
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, it's. It's ugly from there. It's ugly from there.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah, Miami, they come back out again the first play. I don't know why, but they get like a nice gain on the very first play. And then after that, Baltimore stood up basically three and out they end up, you know, well, except for the little first. First down, they end up punting the ball and Baltimore get the Rock back. You let Derrick Henry peel one off for what, about 35, 40?
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Joe Hayden
Yeah, that's when they started just giving it to him. He was 35, 40 for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
They still stiffened up. Like Miami defense still stiffened up. You know, they made them, they forced them to punt, you know, So I believe Miami gets the ball back into that third quarter. They had that, they had like a 28, 30 yard gain on that one. And then they get the, the completion by the running back that got reversed. That's what it was. He catched the ball for 22, reviewed it, said it wasn't, said it wasn't a catch. They end up going, I think a couple downs of fourth downs. They go for a fourth and one, a fourth and 11. Miami actually conversed, which was like, that was, that was wild, like. And then they fumbled a rock, dude. Baltimore recovers the thing, dude, and I think it, it's just over, what, 10, 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. You, you're down, you know, 20, 26, you know, and from there, the defense, Miami's defense, they go out, they hold up. But I mean, I'm really thinking it's too late. And then Tour lets me know that it's too late because he goes immediately, I think, on the second play, second down, and throws a, Throws a pick. Yep. And. And from there, once Baltimore gets the ball back, they just. Six minutes and some change. Just hold the ball, run the clock out like ball game, ball game, dude. Like you don't want to know what happened. Like what happened. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson happened. Yes, that's. That's what happened.
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Joe Hayden
Lamar Jackson happened.
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James Debo Harrison
Yeah. Yeah. Lamar went what, 18 to 23, 204 yard photos, no question.
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Joe Hayden
And then the defense stood up too.
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James Debo Harrison
Yes.
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Joe Hayden
Baltimore Ravens defense, finally second half.
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James Debo Harrison
Dude, Was crazy. Like Baltimore just came out second half, they went back to back tutties. Then the defense started playing more like the defense that we used to seeing from Baltimore. Even if it was first half, bro. Like they gave up 225 and the game only ended with Miami having I think 3, 33, 32. You're talking about two quarters. They barely gave up just over a hundred yards and some change.
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Joe Hayden
Yep. And even when we said too the Bimba don't break like even when they did make plays like edge hn did get off he tool was hitting a lot of those bang posts like for those big plays to Waddle. 24 yard games, 1718 yard gains, but they weren't getting any points. When they got down to the nitty gritty in the red zone, either Miami messed it up or the Ravens did something where they got a stop and got them off the field.
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James Debo Harrison
They covered it better. They covered it better in the second half. They put more pressure on Tua. No, I think, I think that was the big. Excuse me, that was the big difference. But like Miami, you, you can't go 0 for 3 in the red zone, brother. No, you can't like just have missed opportunities like that. You know, you're able to gain a whole bunch of yards, but it don't matter if you can't put no points on the board. And then you know, penalties, you know. Well, with the one that wasn't a penalty. Well, yeah, that shouldn't have been a penalty. Like I said, that's a, you know, that's a big momentum, you know, turn.
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Joe Hayden
No for sure.
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James Debo Harrison
Then like I said, this was the first time that I've seen McDaniels show any kind of flair, anger of any sort. McDaniels of any sort. Like yo, they got a lot of jobs on the line over there. What you think?
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Joe Hayden
No, for sure. Them dudes is definitely. They're fighting for their lives. And I'd really like to see at least McDaniels showing that he cares, you know what I'm saying? Being genuine. And that's the time that the coach is supposed to spaz, you know what I'm saying? Pre snap penalties, those are on us. Those are just straight discipline. You just didn't hear what was going on. And we're trying to make these plays. It's four for one. We going for it. We need you to stay on side. So I was glad to see that that coach has some coach showing some passion, some emotion that he was trying to like that, that it meant Something to him, brother.
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James Debo Harrison
Breaking news from Adam Schaffner right now.
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Joe Hayden
Right now.
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James Debo Harrison
Right now. ESPN sources, Miami Dolphins and general manager Chris what's that name? Greer Met this morning and mutually agreed to part ways. Greer has been with the Miami Dolphins since 2000 and has served as the general manager since. Well, that's why everybody was a little hot under the collar. It looks like we about to. They about to go ahead and clean out. Clean out everything over there. Yep, that. That's. That's what it's looking like to me. Well, that's what it is. It ain't even. It ain't even another. It ain't even another. Another.
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Joe Hayden
Look, it's happening in real time, Debo.
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James Debo Harrison
No question. For real. Real time. Like. Yeah. As we speak, brother. Dude, hold on. Oh, here come another one, man.
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Joe Hayden
No.
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James Debo Harrison
Dolphins senior personnel executive executive champ Kelly now will head the Dolphins decision leading up to and past Tuesday's NFL trade deadline. Per sources, Kelly is the new interim gm. They about to make some moves. They saying.
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Joe Hayden
I guess that's what it. That's what it sound like.
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, that's why they was all going buku on that sideline, baby. We got to win. Hey, we. We gotta win or everybody gone. We. Everybody gone. We all gone.
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Joe Hayden
We all out of here.
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James Debo Harrison
Yep. Hey, man, speaking of winning, man, let's head over here to Cleveland. Shador, come on.
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Joe Hayden
What are we talking about?
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James Debo Harrison
Hey, man, they said. They said he let out some. Something a little. Little cryptic. He. He said I got. I gotta. I gotta get ready big ready. What you. What you think that means, Joe?
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Joe Hayden
See, so it's by week and he's not staying and he's staying in Cleveland. So I think it's not. It's just he got to get ready big ready. He's the second string quarterback. He's making sure that he's getting his back right. He's locked in. He wants to get all the film study all of the time in there that he can get. Because if and not if, but when. But Dylan Gabriel is still a starring quarterback. He knows that. But it's not looking too good. And he knows from the out.
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Joe Hayden
Terms apply even if his head coach doesn't want to. Man, if Dylan keeps if he doesn't have too much longer. He got this bye week coming off of this, he's probably gonna get another two. He's getting two weeks to get good film, good practice, and if you don't ball out, Shador knows like you're leashed from the coach. He can't save you too much longer.
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James Debo Harrison
He can't save you too much longer.
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Joe Hayden
Then it's gonna be my time to get out there. And I love the way he's just locked in. He's not going nowhere for the bye week. He's trying to show the coaches and he knows that. He knows that his time is coming up and he's not trying to do anything to interfere with the process. So I'm not seeing it being any bad way. He's saying he just gotta stay big ready, like I 100.
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James Debo Harrison
He's not saying that. They done told him something in the background that he's going to be this. No. He's like, yo, I can see the writing on the wall like everybody else can see. Like, is it. Why would I do anything that would give them or him Stevenski opportunity to say, well, you didn't come here for this. No. Got the Eagles showing interest in Miles Garrett. Like Joe, would that be a smart move for them to trade Myles Garrett?
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Joe Hayden
No. And especially to the Eagles because end of the day, the Eagles, those first round picks that they talking about giving us, they're going to be within the end of the first round where you're not going to get a Miles Garrett. And at the end of the day, when you do have miles, four years, 160, and he's giving you everything he's got to give you, he's not just knowing that he wants to win, but he's still performing at a high level every week. Five sacks last week. You going to get Myles Garrett's leader ship. You're going to get his production. He's going to work like he's broke. We see contracts coming out now where, you know, Michael Parson is making $46 million a year. We got other defensive ends making $45 million a year. It's not like that. That 40 million a year is market.
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James Debo Harrison
You.
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Joe Hayden
You're getting a steel.
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James Debo Harrison
It's market value now. You set the standard now that's getting.
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Joe Hayden
A steel for what you got, Miles. So it's not going down. It's only going up. So for us to be able to keep him at that number for the next three years and be able to have him, we could build around that. We can't. We're not going to get another miles with the 28th pick in the first round of the next three Dr. I don't think so. So just keep in mind there at this price point and you got to figure some other ways to go build the team and roster because if you want to get a nice team, you don't get rid of your best player.
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James Debo Harrison
I don't think it's a smart move for Cleveland to do that, but it is Cleveland. So I want to say this to you guys, go ahead. Do not give them Miles Garrett. Okay? If you do, I'm going to start a petition against you to try and get every last one of you guys fired. I don't give a damn if they give you 10 first round picks because you ain't gonna get nothing for those first round. Picks for the next five, six, seven, eight years anyway. Because you're gonna put something over there in Philly that can't nobody do nothing with on a consistent basis. Okay? Like, do not do that. And yes, this is selfish. This is very selfish of me because I do not want you to do anything. Although it would help us in division, it ain't gonna help us in the long run. Like, don't do it. I don't give a damn what you get. Don't do it. But it's Cleveland, so they might do it. I don't.
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Joe Hayden
I hope, I, I, I hope they don't do it. I don't think they're going to do it. But that's what good teams do. They always trying to get better. Like the Eagles. All I'm saying is it's just more like, kudos to you. Like, I understand, you know, like, what kind of player he is. If he's flustered trying to get out of there, I would do the same thing they're doing. Like, just ask, like, go, go knock on the door, like, see what's up over there. It's like, it's not.
- [26:22]
James Debo Harrison
Listen, you can't even knock on my door. I got something called no trespassing. If you step. I'm treating you like, like Texas. You step on my land, you will be shot. No, I come over here talking. No Miles Garrett, nothing like that, dude. Like, you got your money. Look, Detroit just gave Hutchinson, what, four year, 80 million?
- [26:42]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [26:42]
James Debo Harrison
What are you talking about? That's money. Money. That's what you getting at that end. Dude, they gave me four years. They doing the right thing. They're getting these nice, short contracts, you know what I'm saying? They're making sure that I'm giving you that money right there in your prime, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I can, I can get the most out of it.
- [27:01]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [27:02]
James Debo Harrison
I mean, you may end up, you know, when the time come, if the coach is, is smart or, or whatever that may be, or depending on how he moves, you may end up having to lose that guy a year or two before, you know, he, he's, he's, he's done being able to give you what you need. Like, look at Tom Brady. Like, it was a couple years before he go to, you know, he go over there to Tampa and he won another one. But I think that was a move they were trying to make before the time, you know, got to a point to where they thought they wouldn't be able to, you know, get anything for Him, I don't know. So. And you know what though? You know what is something else that I like in Detroit? The old coordinator, what's his name? John. John Morton. John Morton said he's failed the receiver, Williams, you know, and I, I like it. The reason, this is the reason I like it, dude. Very few coaches will admit when they haven't done something supremely or, or not even supremely, they haven't done something to the best of their abilities.
- [28:05]
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
- [28:05]
James Debo Harrison
A player that is still currently with them, some people can look back on it and say, oh yeah, you know, I could have did. But being there and actually having a, a coach that's willing to do that, like that's unreal. Huge.
- [28:21]
Joe Hayden
That's huge for a player like for him to stand up for you, you know what I'm saying? And especially to the media for him, his numbers not being what they are and it's not to his fault, like a AJ Brown type, like knowing that his receiver, like his numbers aren't what they are. But you got your coaches coming out there speaking on your behalf saying, man, I got to do a better job of getting this dude the ball. It's not on him at all. You know what I'm saying? That's, that's someone that plays like we, there's no reason why we can't get the ball to James Williams. So having a coach like that make you feel good for sure.
- [28:52]
James Debo Harrison
And then something else, dude, that Detroit does. I won't even say it's Detroit. I'll say it's Dan Campbell. I think he does the right thing by putting people in the right position. And when I say that, I say hiring players.
- [29:06]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, we talked about this.
- [29:08]
James Debo Harrison
That are actually players that played that position. When you look at a whole roster, dude, like coaches, you hiring coaches that played the game, that played the position that they're going to coach. Scotty Montgomery is the wide receivers coach, he was a wide receiver. Deshay Townsend, my dude, he's the DB.
- [29:27]
Joe Hayden
Coach, he was a db.
- [29:29]
James Debo Harrison
You got Farley O line, you have Shepard, he's the D.C. he was a linebacker. Hell, Mark Brunel, dude is the quarterback coach. A quarterback like even, you know, go to the running, running back coach choice. He was a running back. Like they do that. And you can keep going and going and going. I mean even with their, I believe, offensive and defensive assistance. Dude, Brad Garkowski is one of the offense assistants and you got Caleb Collins, he's one of the defensive assistants. Dude, like you do this, this is what a lot of people don't understand is you get automatic buy in. You know why you got automatic buy in for me is that Coach Butts was my linebacker coach. Coach Butts played 10 years in the league. He played the position I'm playing. And when you get that, the buy in is real because you played the position, you went through what I'm going through, you understand the nuances of it and the things that you have to do that are, as they say, quote, not in my range of my position. You know what I'm saying? Like when the court say I don't tackle, I cover. No, no, that's part of what you have to do. So it doesn't matter because now I know he's done what I've done. He can tell me the things, you know what I'm saying? That I can, I can, I can, I can get from him and the Nuggets and know that, you know what, he's not just feeding this to me because he said that's, this is what I gotta do.
- [30:56]
Joe Hayden
No, for sure.
- [30:57]
James Debo Harrison
You build coaches like that and you get coaches like that. Yes. Give me, you're going to lose some of those guys. Like, that's, that's just, that's just what it happens. You know what I'm saying? And I understand, I understand it very well. And that's why Dan Campbell has such a, a fruitful coaching tree, dude. Because that, that's part of his responsibility. Bring guys in and, and, and, and, and make more, you know, hell, go to the Bible, bro. Just as the, you know, people who have accepted their Lord and savior Jesus Christ do is supposed to spread the good news and bring more people. Jesus himself said, dude, what was it? Matthew 28, 19:20. Go therefore make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Teaching them to observe all that have, all that have con. All that I have command you, dude. You got to be able and ready to make disciples. Like, and he's doing that, dude.
- [32:04]
Joe Hayden
He, he's tree.
- [32:07]
James Debo Harrison
Seven years in, he already got a coaching tree. Like that is what, three, four head coach or something like that? Not to mention guys that have left and moved up from positional coach to coordinators. Like, it's like, that is, that is, that is what has to be, you know, that is what has to be done. That's just how it's done, dude.
- [32:24]
Joe Hayden
Nope, for sure. And that's when you said this coaching tree. But it still is playing the coast at home on Sunday.
- [32:30]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, yeah, dude, like it's.
- [32:33]
Joe Hayden
What you thinking?
- [32:35]
James Debo Harrison
What I'm thinking?
- [32:37]
Joe Hayden
What you thinking, T. Bo?
- [32:39]
James Debo Harrison
I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm thinking we in hella trouble. That's what I'm thinking. Because like I said, we have played trash. We are trash. We're well 30th ranked defense. We're trash, bro. Right now.
- [32:57]
Joe Hayden
Right. Right now.
- [32:58]
James Debo Harrison
Because somebody statistically said I've been toting that rock like crazy. Run it, dude. It upsets me to even think about it. I don't want to. I'm just hoping. I'm hoping we just don't get embarrassed, bro. I believe this is the, the 20th reunion for the 2005 Super Bowl.
- [33:24]
Joe Hayden
Okay?
- [33:25]
James Debo Harrison
This is when everybody coming back.
- [33:27]
Joe Hayden
Everybody coming back. This is.
- [33:30]
James Debo Harrison
Everybody come back, bruh, please.
- [33:34]
Joe Hayden
And you'll. And you.
- [33:35]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, the one that we won in Detroit up there in Detroit where your boy. He over there. He built. He building a legacy over there, dude. He's building a legacy over there.
- [33:46]
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
- [33:48]
James Debo Harrison
What I. I'm not. I'm not optimistic about this game. I'll be 100 honest with you. I'm not. I. I don't see how we. I don't see how we can win given how we've played the whole season. I'll be there watching it, though.
- [34:09]
Joe Hayden
I feel like you're being. You, you're speaking, you're speaking realistically right now.
- [34:15]
James Debo Harrison
I think my heart will not. Let me say something foolish right now like we're gonna go and win and dog walk and da, da.
- [34:23]
Joe Hayden
No, no.
- [34:24]
James Debo Harrison
I'm just hoping we don't get embarrassed. That's a damn shame. As a Steeler, as a organization, as a person that's played there for 14, 15 years. I'm hoping that we don't get embarrassed when it used to be, hey, I'm waiting for us to go and get one of those AFC championship hats, get into the playoffs and be sitting there ready to play at home in the AFC Championship game.
- [34:55]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, it's tough. It's a little.
- [34:57]
James Debo Harrison
We don't get embarrassed and we actually. I don't even know, you know, why.
- [35:01]
Joe Hayden
You say that, Debo. You know, I could think, you know why I'm thinking about why you. Why you feel like this too? Because it's. The embarrassing part is it's not like.
- [35:08]
James Debo Harrison
You know, we can't.
- [35:09]
Joe Hayden
We can't. We're not worried about us being able to kind of figure a way to score points. We know we got a rod. We know offense is getting right. We're getting other pieces but it's just that we have all the players on defense, and we're still right now ranked the worst. So just statistically speaking, like, knowing, like. Like, if we go out there and they're bringing in Jonathan Taylor, they're bringing in. They're averaging 33.8 points a game right now. You know what I'm saying? And that's the number one scoring offense in the league. And they're coming into the crib. So we're.
- [35:38]
James Debo Harrison
And we giving 30 something up to Cincinnati. Come on.
- [35:42]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, Yeah, I feel. I hear you.
- [35:44]
James Debo Harrison
That's your fault, Cleveland.
- [35:45]
Joe Hayden
Cause you gave him.
- [35:46]
James Debo Harrison
Joe. You probably go get an Eagles.
- [35:49]
Joe Hayden
See.
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- [35:50]
Joe Hayden
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- [35:57]
James Debo Harrison
I'm drinking tea, too. You see, y' all get my voice going again, so.
- [36:01]
Joe Hayden
But with me, the one. The. The hope that I have, and the reason why I do have hope is because the name's on the back of their jerseys. I do believe that the people that we do have on the team are good enough to get the job done. That's not the question. They just need to do it themselves.
- [36:19]
James Debo Harrison
You made me. You made me. You made me call you son.
- [36:21]
Joe Hayden
You got to call me son.
- [36:23]
James Debo Harrison
Potential and what you were don't add up to shit if you don't go out there and play.
- [36:29]
Joe Hayden
I know. That's what. I feel you. I feel you. I feel you. But I believe that they can do it. So I hope that now everybody.
- [36:36]
James Debo Harrison
My son James, Harrison out there, same name, all that on the back of the jersey. But you're not gonna get the results that you got from me.
- [36:42]
Joe Hayden
No, no. I'm saying they gotta go do it for themselves. We saying the same thing, Deebo. I'm just trying to figure out a way that they're gonna be able to do it. Like, they know.
- [36:49]
James Debo Harrison
Joe, you tell me how they gonna be able to do. You tell me. You give me a realistic approach how they gonna be able to do it knowing how they done play all year.
- [36:59]
Joe Hayden
All right, literally Everybody do they 1/11. Everybody do their job. It's not too hard. I'm thinking that people are doing. Trying to do other people's stuff, like, just win your one on one if you can't win your one.
- [37:14]
James Debo Harrison
Are they trying to do other people's stuff or are they just being told different things? Is. Or is it. Like. Is.
- [37:24]
Joe Hayden
Is.
- [37:24]
James Debo Harrison
Is it. Are you being told different things? Because Like, I don't know. I can't tell if it's like you said.
- [37:30]
Joe Hayden
When I see. When I see. I see certain stuff like this.
- [37:33]
James Debo Harrison
I know when you get blew off the ball and you back there with the.
- [37:35]
Joe Hayden
That's on this.
- [37:36]
James Debo Harrison
That's the problem.
- [37:37]
Joe Hayden
Yes. And then also when you see people, you know, Debo, when you run the plate and you freeze it and you see somebody, man, running scot free like you can want and kind of see, I just don't need to see eye errors. Eye disciplines people running. Don't get beat to the.
- [37:51]
James Debo Harrison
Well, sometimes you only got 10 on the field, too, so.
- [37:53]
Joe Hayden
See, okay, see, that's. That's.
- [37:55]
James Debo Harrison
That's a.
- [37:55]
Joe Hayden
That's a. That's not. That's not acceptable. That's junior varsity, as Coach T would say. That's jv. We can't have jv. Things going on out there.
- [38:06]
James Debo Harrison
Like, how you gonna call a timeout? That's JV. That's JV. That's jV. Even if the players don't see it. Like, I mean, even the coach don't see it. The player's sitting right there. You should know who's standing next to you. Next to you.
- [38:18]
Joe Hayden
No, you're down one, huh?
- [38:20]
James Debo Harrison
No question.
- [38:23]
Joe Hayden
You supposed to be running the combo. Yeah. Do the. Do the routine things routinely, Debo. That's what they got to do.
- [38:31]
James Debo Harrison
Do the routine things routinely. Man, I ain't gonna even lie to you, man. That's a lot of lip service right now, man. The standard is the standard. It's. It's. I don't. What's the standard? 500.
- [38:44]
Joe Hayden
Oh, no. He won the playoff game.
- [38:46]
James Debo Harrison
Since 2016, man.
- [38:50]
Joe Hayden
Dead, man. Yeah, man.
- [38:54]
James Debo Harrison
I was playing then.
- [38:58]
Joe Hayden
I feel you.
- [38:58]
James Debo Harrison
I've been done for what, seven, eight years?
- [39:02]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, man. Debo, I feel you.
- [39:05]
James Debo Harrison
Standard now we done lost. It ain't the same one that I knew.
- [39:10]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, I know for sure. I'm telling the D. I'm. This. There's nothing really to talk. There's nothing really to say. You know, it's bad. They got to do better. They have to play better. And as more we keep talking about it, the more mad you're gonna get, bruh.
- [39:29]
James Debo Harrison
I. I wanna.
- [39:31]
Joe Hayden
Because I don't want you to be mad.
- [39:32]
James Debo Harrison
I can't. I can't. I can't, I can't, I can't. I can't. I can't sit here and lie to myself. I can't.
- [39:37]
Joe Hayden
No, for sure, that's what it. But you know what?
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- [39:39]
Joe Hayden
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- [39:43]
James Debo Harrison
I want them to win, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bet a dollar on it.
- [39:52]
Joe Hayden
No, I mean, I could use that.
- [39:53]
James Debo Harrison
Dollar for some penny candy or something. I get. I get at least whatever. I give me a hundred pieces of candy.
- [39:58]
Joe Hayden
You've been watching the games, Deebo. You could tell, like, if you. If you're being honest with yourself, you could be like, does Indianapolis Colts. Have they been playing better than the Steelers, bro?
- [40:06]
James Debo Harrison
How many times they done punted all year? Is it even 10?
- [40:09]
Joe Hayden
I don't know if they have a punter on the roster, like. Yeah, we gonna see.
- [40:17]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, my God.
- [40:19]
Joe Hayden
Jonathan Taylor leads the league in rushing yards and touchdowns. We gonna see. But there still is.
- [40:27]
James Debo Harrison
No, that's depressing, man. Listen, they're gonna move on, Brad. Speaking of some depressing news.
- [40:40]
Joe Hayden
Oh, no, dude.
- [40:42]
James Debo Harrison
Jaguars place Travis Hunter on IR due to a knee injury. Hunter now will miss a minimum of four games. I guess they placed him on injured reserve to come back. Yo, how hard you think that's gonna hit them? What's their next four games?
- [41:03]
Joe Hayden
I'm just sad for Travis Hunter.
- [41:06]
James Debo Harrison
Super sad.
- [41:07]
Joe Hayden
How did this happen? You know how it happened.
- [41:09]
James Debo Harrison
I do not have no clue how it happened, brother. Same.
- [41:14]
Joe Hayden
Too crazy. Four games, man. Just. I hope they just don't rush it back. Don't rush him back. He gets 100%. He's way, way, way too young to be trying to force himself to rush back. Full recovery. Yeah, you're gonna be good.
- [41:29]
James Debo Harrison
100, brother. 100 recovery. Make sure you come back because, you know, he'd be having you adjusting on that ball a little bit when he went. When he throw it. You know what I'm saying? So we don't. We don't wanna. You know, we don't want to do nothing, I guess. He was injured in practice on yesterday, brother. So this is.
- [41:45]
Joe Hayden
This is fresh.
- [41:46]
James Debo Harrison
Yes, this is fresh. Dang. Yes. They probably got him twisting the Turner for balls in practice, so.
- [41:53]
Joe Hayden
Oh, for sure he out there young, but going hard. Trying to do both. Love him, but. Yeah, I think they just. Long as they just take that time with him. Don't rush him back. He got way way. He has a long career.
- [42:07]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, yeah, he got a long career. As long as he can stay healthy, brother. As long as he can stay healthy. Damn, that. That hurts, don't it? Jerry? Hey, listen, man. Jerry Jones, he said he's shifting. He's shifting his priorities right now to something more lucrative. Jerry said there's a hundred billion present value with natural gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on the telephone rather than to, rather than trying to fix our defense with the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, people.
- [42:39]
Joe Hayden
Oh, my gosh.
- [42:40]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, listen, listen. I'm trying to tell y'. All.
- [42:43]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, Jerry.
- [42:44]
James Debo Harrison
Jerry has been letting y' all know from day one, okay, Even when, listen, even when he got the Cowboys, it was an investment opportunity for him to make, to make money. He's letting you know that.
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- [44:55]
James Debo Harrison
Terms apply only Thing I care about is making money. As long as I'm making money and everything is going fine. You Cowboy fans out there think he care about this team? He don't care about this team. He care about making that money. And right now, Jerry said, hey, I got 13 billion over here sitting here. And I got them boys. And I got all the Cowboy fans saying, we going back. We about to win it this year. And y' all keep buying the tickets and spending the money. Jerry said, I got that money coming. But you know what I got right now? I got an opportunity for a more lucrative offer. Team might be worth 12, 13 billion, but I got a chance to get a hundred billion. Hey, sit back. We don't care about this right now. Listen, listen. I'm a businessman first, okay? And he got y' all so entangled as Cowboy fans, y' all think he really cares? No, he's the GM and does everything because he wants to be in control and make sure he can get as much money as he can. Listen, you could go to the Cowboys practice and watch them practice. You could pay to get in there to watch them practice. Dude, like, how many teams do that? I do not know who does that? Because if I was, I'm not. But if I was in that position and I was playing the Cowboys, I might just send somebody that had no representation with my football team over there to go and sit and watch practice so I can know what to tell my players y' all go do when we play y'. All. Joe. What? Joe, what do you think?
- [46:21]
Joe Hayden
Joe, I think you're on the money with. It's all about the money. Jerry Jones is a smart businessman. He bought this team to make money for 150 million, whatever it is. Now they're worth 10, $13 billion. So end of the day, he does want to have a good product on the field. Like, don't get me wrong, he wants. But the main thing is the main thing, and that's making money continuously hand over fist, like Deebo said, having people come to practice, the jerseys, the stadium, the billion dollar playpen. Like, he's making so much money, and then his main thing that he's going to show you is about making money. Because if there's a bigger money investment, we're gonna keep this thing right here. You're still making me good money, you know what I'm saying? But I'm about to go make this other 100 billion over here. That's what it's about.
- [47:07]
James Debo Harrison
This is what it's about.
- [47:08]
Joe Hayden
Put this on pause. For a second, I'm 100.
- [47:10]
James Debo Harrison
But y', all, this chump change this. Hey, do not take my pocket money.
- [47:14]
Joe Hayden
No, do not.
- [47:15]
James Debo Harrison
Do not take my pocket money. But, you know, that's pocket money to him.
- [47:19]
Joe Hayden
Debo, he. This is the thing, too. He owns the team.
- [47:23]
James Debo Harrison
Yes.
- [47:23]
Joe Hayden
So, like, that's the thing, people.
- [47:24]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, you know what? Hey, man, let me talk about. This is my entertainment source, where all you foolish Cowboy fans run over and give me all your money. But I don't even really care about it because I'm making billions over here. But I had to go ahead and jump on this opportunity real hard because it's way more billions. And I had to let y' all know that. Hey, I'm telling you, I bought this for 150 million, and I made it into 13 billion. And now I got an opportunity to go and get 100 billion.
- [47:50]
Joe Hayden
Hey, listen, I'm gonna get that stuff on the side.
- [47:52]
James Debo Harrison
That's why I'm talking to you on the phone right now. I ain't worried about that defense. Them Cowboy fans go, always stay there. We them boys, it's been 30 years. We ain't did nothing. But, hey, we didn't. Boys, every year, it's our year. Every year. That year, you keep dropping that money and buying them jerseys and doing all that.
- [48:06]
Joe Hayden
Lebo, I would tell you this. If somebody were to buy and own an investment and they own something, they're the full owner, and everybody that works for them, they pay these people. They write the checks. Jerry Jones, in the NFL, there's not dudes that really act like that. Like the Robert Kraft said, they're more in the background. They want to know what's going on. But end of the day, if you own a team or that's your own, you could do whatever you want to do. Like, you're writing the checks. You're cutting the checks to everybody. So if you letting everybody know, like, it's not a good way. But Jerry's letting people know he can do what he wants to do. Sell the team. Why would I sell the team? I'm up. I bought it for 150.
- [48:44]
James Debo Harrison
Why would he sell the team? He automatically knows that he has child boys fans going back into the day before they eyes opened because their parents have indoctrinated them into being a Cowboys fan, and they have never seen a championship game of any sort. But you know what we go do? We go look at Troy Smith. We go look at.
- [49:08]
Joe Hayden
Look at Emma Smith.
- [49:09]
James Debo Harrison
Smith.
- [49:10]
Joe Hayden
Michael Irvin.
- [49:11]
James Debo Harrison
Michael Irvin. Troy. When Dion was there, We. Them boys. Told you we was. Them boys, huh? How you doing, boys that even got a problem with this? Like, come on. Yeah, them boys. It, like, real. For real. It's like. Them boys like that. He like, oh, yeah, them boys over there, they play for me. They make me some money. But here go these. These men, they. They about to get me that guap.
- [49:38]
Joe Hayden
They gonna give me that guap.
- [49:39]
James Debo Harrison
It's a business for Jerry, period. And as long as he making paper, he's going to continue to treat it as what it is. To him, it's nothing but a business. Like, you could come. Like, how do you. You come in there and be behind the glass and be able to watch somebody practice every day, that's usually like a. You know, that's. That's usually like a. A big opportunity for, like, somebody that, you know and all that other stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like, training camp don't matter. You just putting in the basics. Everybody know what your basics is and sit there and watch what you about to do before you go play blase skippy. Nah, you can't do that. You got to close that down. Like, you can't. You can't have that. And like you said, in season, you get, like, you know, you get to make a wish or something. Like, you know, once. Yeah. Every other week or something like that. That's a big opportunity. But they ain't coming there trying to. You not selling it. He's selling everything, dude. They selling the gloves, the shoes, everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, they selling everything. Don't. Don't leave nothing in your locker. I promise you, it's gone. Shop before. Before the end of. Before the end of the night. Okay.
- [50:46]
Joe Hayden
Yep. I feel that, like, we.
- [50:48]
James Debo Harrison
Them boys, all you Cowboys fans. He like. Yeah.
- [50:53]
Joe Hayden
Begin to.
- [50:53]
James Debo Harrison
All them suckers. I'mma keep y'.
- [50:55]
Ryan Seacrest
All.
- [50:55]
James Debo Harrison
I'm gonna keep y' all over here because y' all think I care about this? I really don't. I really.
- [50:59]
Joe Hayden
But the thing about making money. The one thing I would say, though, Debo is at least he. He's not. They. It's not like they just been. They have good. They have formidable teams. Like, it's not like he's not just giving them, like, no. No roster. They have. They have been having some skills.
- [51:15]
James Debo Harrison
You talking about like. Like Cleveland, like, giving them no. Nothing but one or two players here and there.
- [51:21]
Joe Hayden
No, no, no, no, no. I mean. I mean, I think. I think when he had the best. The best time. Not because I think the best Time was when they had Dak. I mean, not Dak with dez. With DEZ Bryant on that catch. I think that was the one time they had actual shot.
- [51:36]
James Debo Harrison
Shot.
- [51:37]
Joe Hayden
So, like in the last 30 years, there's. It's one, but one.
- [51:41]
James Debo Harrison
Yeah, you said one shot in the last 30 years.
- [51:43]
Joe Hayden
I say one in the last 30.
- [51:44]
James Debo Harrison
How you gonna call yourself? Them boys hold up America's team? Well, I don't know if that's the reputation we want as America's team.
- [51:54]
Joe Hayden
You think they should switch America's team?
- [51:56]
James Debo Harrison
No, they shouldn't switch. American team. That. That. They not America's team. That was a title that was given to him.
- [52:00]
Joe Hayden
That was title.
- [52:01]
James Debo Harrison
I believe at one point in time, it was. It was a title they was trying to give to old man. Old man Rooney. He told him no.
- [52:06]
Joe Hayden
They told him no, no, I heard that. I heard that.
- [52:10]
James Debo Harrison
You. You were given a title. You didn't earn it. We didn't, boys. Yeah, you was doing boys in 90 something. You just. You just something.
- [52:21]
Joe Hayden
They living off the old, old days. They had. They said they had their time.
- [52:27]
James Debo Harrison
Come. Don't. Don't. Yeah, don't. Don't. No, we can't. We can't.
- [52:33]
Joe Hayden
We can't.
- [52:33]
James Debo Harrison
We can't. Well, it ain't about. We can't allow it. The fans, they believe it so much. You know how you get ingrained to. To something that you. You. You just. You believe in it so much, no matter what the. It's hitting you in your face. You know what I'm saying? Like, you. You still believe a lie. Yeah, I'm saying, like, they. They, like. They, like, mellow. You die with the lies, huh? They gonna die with the lie. They're gonna live their whole life as a. As. Sorry, I almost said Cleveland, but. Yeah, you're gonna have that, too. But you gonna have fans that live their whole life as a Dallas Cowboy fan slash Cleveland Brown fan, and never see anything come to fruition from the time they are born until the time they leave this earth.
- [53:18]
Joe Hayden
See? So what was that? It was like, Tony Romo. It was Tony Romo, and then that was that. So that's been the last couple of years. The last 15.
- [53:31]
James Debo Harrison
Listen. Hey, Halloween is. Here it is. What's the scariest thing that you think could happen today on Halloween? You want me to tell you what mine is?
- [53:48]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, you tell me first, Deebo.
- [53:50]
James Debo Harrison
I'm the dumbass Browns letting Miles Garrett go to Philly. That. That would be the scariest thing that that could happen today. I don't Even know why I'm telling them because they just.
- [54:05]
Joe Hayden
They're not gonna, they're not going to do that. Diva. They're not going to do that. They're not going to do that.
- [54:09]
James Debo Harrison
They tell them they give them 10 first round picks, they go do it.
- [54:12]
Joe Hayden
10 first round picks. Miles Garrett, first thing. He on the first thing. Smoking that they said. They say 10 he on the first thing.
- [54:19]
James Debo Harrison
Listen, while I want to see you succeed, Miles, because I want to see all players succeed.
- [54:28]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [54:29]
James Debo Harrison
I want to see you succeed with Cleveland while you don't win no games that will affect the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's the selfish part of me. But.
- [54:42]
Joe Hayden
I want the best of Miles Garrett, man.
- [54:43]
James Debo Harrison
Regardless.
- [54:44]
Joe Hayden
He's a baller. He's a good dude. I think, I don't think this, I don't think the Browns are going to let him go. That would be ridiculous. Especially for three first round picks. And like we're not going to get another Miles Garrett in the draft. He's the defensive cornerstone. Him, Denzel, those pieces don't need to go. Hardest thing to find an edge rusher. You got one. He's been there. You know what it is. And we got Denzel as a corner. So like, like those are my guys that we just don't need to get rid of. We know what we need on the offensive side. We need to get a quarterback and we need to get another receiver. You know what I'm saying? And always line, never offensive line, never hurts. So with those spots, just getting rid of Miles in no place makes any sense to me because Miles going to play at a high level no matter where he's at, because he's a baller. That's just what he does. He wants to perform at a high level because he just. I think he's. When you're great players like you deep, it don't matter. When you're on the football field, you're going to work, you're going to do good because that's just what you do too. That's. That's just what we do when we're on the field. So I would want him to stay there and ball out.
- [55:46]
James Debo Harrison
Yo, man. Somebody asked AI to evaluate the Browns historical struggle in the NFL. Dude, even, even, even Google couldn't make sense of it.
- [55:55]
Joe Hayden
No.
- [55:58]
James Debo Harrison
Dude of the organization is, is. Is. Is one of the things The Browns post 1999 record is considered a significant record is considered a significant outliner in the modern professional sports. The combination of losing seasons, a minimum number of winning records, a multiple historical low, low Points make the continuous struggles and almost statistically impossible outcome in a league structured for parody. The Brown struggles are frequently cited as a case study on organizational dysfunction.
- [56:41]
Joe Hayden
Oh, Lord.
- [56:42]
James Debo Harrison
That. That managed to defy the mathematical and structural forces modern NFL guys.
- [56:52]
Joe Hayden
Hold up. Hold up. Dad.
- [56:54]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, I can't see you. Joe, put your hood up.
- [56:56]
Joe Hayden
Babe, hold up, man. You trying to. What you doing?
- [56:59]
James Debo Harrison
That's Google. AI didn't do this. I didn't do this, bro. I did not do this.
- [57:06]
Joe Hayden
Chill out, man.
- [57:07]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, this is my. That is. Has nothing to do with me. Joe, listen. What Your kids. What? Your kids. Your kids trick or treating, though? Let's go to something, man. Your kids, man, what they going. Ass, man.
- [57:17]
Joe Hayden
My young boys is my boy. I got my oldest son, Joey. He's going as a police officer. And then I got my youngest son, Jet. He going as a ninja.
- [57:26]
James Debo Harrison
Okay, okay.
- [57:28]
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
- [57:29]
James Debo Harrison
My. My son's birthday today. He. He would wear costumes, like, every day. I'm talking as soon as he got home from school, he wear the costume. This dude had, like, I think it was like eight. Eight or nine different Iron man costumes. Yeah, Iron man soldier. This. This. All this other stuff. Dude, like, literally couldn't get this dude out of a costume. And, like, we was. We was trying to. Well, we tried it too late, but we wanted to make him believe that everybody dressed up because it was his birthday, but we stuck. He started too late. He didn't. He didn't believe.
- [58:05]
Joe Hayden
He wasn't going for that.
- [58:06]
James Debo Harrison
No, he wasn't.
- [58:07]
Joe Hayden
What he got going today for his birthday?
- [58:10]
James Debo Harrison
Yo, I'm a little. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm a little upset. A little upset.
- [58:13]
Joe Hayden
He got something going without you?
- [58:15]
James Debo Harrison
He got something going without me. He gonna tell me. He, he. He. His mom asked him that. What do you want to do? Whatever. So I'm like, well, you find out what, you know, what Henry want to do. Yeah, I'm thinking, you know, he want to go eat, he want to go hit. You know, we got. We got. We got Napa prime right here and off the hood, bro.
- [58:37]
Joe Hayden
That was my spot when I was.
- [58:38]
James Debo Harrison
In the Question, bro. Napa prime is even better.
- [58:42]
Joe Hayden
I've been in that prime, too. Up the hill, across the street from.
- [58:45]
James Debo Harrison
The distance, the other one is the seafood spot, right?
- [58:47]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, yeah.
- [58:48]
James Debo Harrison
And. And he go talk about some. He want to go to his friend's house and sit around a fire or something, and, you know, he'll catch up. He'll catch up. I want to do something with you.
- [58:59]
Joe Hayden
I'm going to holl at you, Pop. I'm gonna go catch. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go get to the fire, and then I'm gonna hit you up.
- [59:04]
James Debo Harrison
You. You dirty, rough scoundrel. You gonna do that to me? After all I did for you? To me?
- [59:16]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, he just.
- [59:17]
James Debo Harrison
He does on your 16th birthday. I know you a boy, but, like, come. You go do that to me.
- [59:24]
Joe Hayden
Dang, Debo. That. It'd be your own. It'd be your own.
- [59:28]
James Debo Harrison
I'm gonna give you something, though. I'm give you something. So I don't know if your son stopped giving you a kiss yet, but it's gonna hurt your heart when they do.
- [59:35]
Joe Hayden
Oh, man.
- [59:36]
James Debo Harrison
It's gonna tear you apart, bro. So I'm sitting there and dude, you know, he gives his mom a kiss. You know. You know, I get me a kiss, and I don't know when it was, but James was. I think he was around like. Like maybe four or five, something like that. Yeah. And I seen, you know, they talking, whatever, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Okay, mom, whatever.
- [60:02]
Odoo Advertiser
Do.
- [60:02]
James Debo Harrison
Do, do. You know? He get the kiss. Okay. Yeah. Like. All right, man. What's up, man? And I go to get the kiss, and, you know, this turned his cheek on me.
- [60:13]
Joe Hayden
Yeah. Hold down, Coach. Hold up.
- [60:17]
James Debo Harrison
Listen, listen. I didn't know that your kid could hurt you without saying a word. I had to talk to him about it after he got older. I couldn't. I couldn't let it. He didn't understand it then.
- [60:31]
Joe Hayden
Yeah.
- [60:32]
James Debo Harrison
But I had to talk to him. I got over it, of course, but he really hurt you.
- [60:37]
Joe Hayden
He hurt your feelings.
- [60:38]
James Debo Harrison
He hurt my feelings. I can't get no kiss.
- [60:41]
Kraken Advertiser
No.
- [60:41]
James Debo Harrison
No, Dad, I can't. You gonna turn my. You gonna turn your cheek to me?
- [60:46]
Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah.
- [60:47]
James Debo Harrison
You gonna still give her the lips, young boy?
- [60:52]
Joe Hayden
My old man.
- [60:53]
James Debo Harrison
I can't even get a cheek kiss.
- [60:55]
Joe Hayden
No, for sure. Now you. Yeah, now. Now you trying. Yeah, you better come over here.
- [61:00]
James Debo Harrison
Get.
- [61:00]
Joe Hayden
Just give me a good old hug.
- [61:02]
James Debo Harrison
That's.
- [61:02]
Joe Hayden
You better be happy. On giving you a hug.
- [61:05]
James Debo Harrison
Listen, all this. All this. Wait. All this close. Wait. Wait till that. Wait till that. So. Also something else. It's a good thing is that y' all can't lose. The Browns can't lose this week.
- [61:18]
Joe Hayden
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you damn right. And all my boys getting there might.
- [61:29]
James Debo Harrison
Mess around and gain a game and not even have to do nothing.
- [61:31]
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm saying. That's the. That's the goal.
- [61:34]
James Debo Harrison
I'm just.
- [61:35]
Joe Hayden
That's the goal. We need to Steelers. You know what I'm saying? We need to Stillers.
- [61:40]
James Debo Harrison
What? What you mean? Who is. Then you go with that, Joe. Me?
- [61:46]
Joe Hayden
Me and you is the Steelers. We need the Steelers to win.
- [61:50]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, this week I say something goofy?
- [61:52]
Joe Hayden
No, no, no. We need the Steelers to win this week.
- [61:57]
James Debo Harrison
I don't know. I'll be crashing out. You know what? I'm. I'm down bad because I already know we. We're about to go out here and. Lou, I'm depressed.
- [62:05]
Joe Hayden
That's what I'm saying.
- [62:06]
James Debo Harrison
But I just don't want to get embarrassed. I just don't. That's why don't embarrass us, please.
- [62:10]
Joe Hayden
No, look, look, it'd be yes. Let's just. I'm this game. Let's just. Good vibes, Deebo. We know what we gotta do. We know what they gotta do.
- [62:20]
James Debo Harrison
Good vibes.
- [62:21]
Joe Hayden
The Browns already won this week, so you're actually right.
- [62:26]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, they might lose, though. They might go and give away everything they got. They stupid enough to.
- [62:33]
Joe Hayden
Nope, nope, nope. He's not, man. They ain't gonna do that. They're not interested in getting rid of them.
- [62:37]
James Debo Harrison
I hope they do. I just want something bad to happen.
- [62:40]
Joe Hayden
Only reason only they get rid of Miles for Patty Mahomes. Okay, Give us Pat, and we'll give you Miles. Okay?
- [62:49]
James Debo Harrison
Hell, no.
- [62:51]
Joe Hayden
All right, then. Well, he gonna sit that. That's what I'm saying.
- [62:54]
James Debo Harrison
So he gonna let that happen. He'll retire before he let him. Put him to the brown, bro.
- [62:57]
Joe Hayden
I know. Pat not going nowhere. Pat not going. That's what I'm saying. If I'm the Browns, I'm acting for something outrageous. Give me Lamar if you want. You want, you want.
- [63:05]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, they ain't giving. Listen, listen, listen. Lamar will retire before he let. It's a lot of quarterbacks that you saying right now that will retire before you let them get.
- [63:15]
Joe Hayden
Nope.
- [63:15]
James Debo Harrison
They gotta have some. No, I will retire on you before I let you trade me to the Cleveland Browns. I played for every team in the North. I didn't play for the Browns, though.
- [63:27]
Joe Hayden
Shut up. I played for the Browns, Deebo. Shut up.
- [63:29]
James Debo Harrison
I'm just saying this is tough.
- [63:31]
Joe Hayden
Why you being so disrespectful?
- [63:32]
James Debo Harrison
I'm just. I was just. I was making a statement about who I didn't play for. That's it.
- [63:37]
Joe Hayden
Joe, you know, why you trying to make a statement like.
- [63:39]
James Debo Harrison
Oh, yeah, I'm not making a statement.
- [63:41]
Joe Hayden
You're the reason why.
- [63:41]
James Debo Harrison
I'm just. I'm just telling the truth? I can't even speak.
- [63:43]
Joe Hayden
I don't know how much better the Bengals organization is than the 2013.
- [63:49]
James Debo Harrison
We took the AFC North. Check it out.
- [63:52]
Joe Hayden
Yeah, man.
- [63:52]
James Debo Harrison
Where I go? AFC North. Go, man. All right. I just wanted to say that every.
- [63:56]
Joe Hayden
Dog finds it's the wrong clock.
- [63:58]
James Debo Harrison
Hey, I'm just saying, man. Listen, listen, man, listen. I want to thank you guys, man. We got to get out of here because Joe is feeling some kind of way when I start talking about the clown. I mean, the Browns and stuff like that. Like I just said, I didn't play for him. Listen, we want to thank you guys for joining us for this episode. Adibo and Joe. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. We will be back at it on Monday. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm praying that I have good news. Even if we lose, I just don't. I just make it close. Don't let. Please.
- [64:37]
Joe Hayden
Come on.
- [64:37]
James Debo Harrison
I'm gonna start spinning again. Joe, no.
- [64:39]
Joe Hayden
Let's go. Come on. Still his defense. Stand up. Get Debo something to be happy about. Have us come with a good cigar.
- [64:47]
James Debo Harrison
Have me come in here with a good cigar with my towels on.
- [64:51]
Joe Hayden
Come on.
- [64:51]
James Debo Harrison
All that. I might even light it up this time.
- [64:54]
Joe Hayden
Come on, Debo.
- [64:55]
James Debo Harrison
I mean, I might.
- [64:57]
Joe Hayden
Depending on. I might, I might.
- [64:59]
James Debo Harrison
I don't know. So look, here, give me something so I can put my stuff on so I could be back in my flow. All the gold, you know?
- [65:09]
Joe Hayden
Yes.
- [65:09]
James Debo Harrison
Shine.
- [65:10]
Joe Hayden
Shine, shine.
- [65:11]
James Debo Harrison
Come on, Shine, Joe. Cause you ain't got nothing else to look forward to other than when the downfall coming. They trade miles so we shine.
- [65:19]
Joe Hayden
Browns already won this week. Here we go.
- [65:23]
James Debo Harrison
Steelers go. Put our foot down. Step on these boys. Next. At least stand your ground, please.
- [65:31]
Joe Hayden
Stand up, stand up. Stand up.
- [65:33]
James Debo Harrison
Back here on Monday. We out, we out.
- [65:48]
Joe Hayden
This is Julian Edelman from Games with Names.
- [65:51]
Ryan Seacrest
Football is back. That means it's tailgate time.
- [65:54]
Joe Hayden
And this season, the only meat I'm.
- [65:57]
Ryan Seacrest
Going to grill is Dietz and Watson.
- [66:00]
Joe Hayden
I'm loving the Black Angus Dietz dogs.
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Ryan Seacrest
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