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Joe Haden
So then him being able to do that, call him now. Quickly. Look, you know what I'm saying? This is coach. You know what I'm saying? No hard feelings, but we want to have to move on from you. And those. Are those real. Like, when you see the horse joints, those are real life conversations. Then when coaches are getting fired, having to tell their staff, hey, guys, you know what I'm saying? It's been amazing, but they're letting me go. That's like, real life things that will. Business people and people in the.
Deebo Samuel
That's something I don't like, dude. That's something I don't like about that, dude, is. It's them. I don't like that, dude. Yeah, that's out of control, bro. I don't understand that. Like, you don't. You don't get to. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like that reaction. Like, some guys, I mean, for me, it's. It's different. Like, I'm, you know, I'm a roll and just keep going or whatever it may be. But, like, you're. You're putting their. Their most. You know, like, lowest point, dude. You got guys that. That have played this game, dude, you know, their whole life, bro. Like, this is what they've been told that they can do. This is what they are. This is everything they know. And there's nothing else that they understand or. Or can comprehend at that time. And they young. And now you telling him you ain't good enough to be here. And this. He being told this in front of the whole world, dude. Man, this is some. That the PA should be stopping and protecting players from. Like, this is. This don't make sense, dude. You gotta have to be as a player, sitting here, losing my job the first time ever that is mentally disturbing. And. And it's you talking about you want to work. Y' all worried about guys mental health that right there. Putting a man live as he losing a job that he's been told his whole life he's the greatest at. And now he has to figure out what to do from that point. That right there is mentally, like, that's something that. But some People can't recover from.
Joe Haden
Dude, I feel you. And that hits. That hits. But that's when, at the same time now, where the dudes got to start realizing plan A's, plan B's. Everybody, like, we.
Deebo Samuel
No, dude, I understand what you're saying, Joe, and we understand that, but when did you make your plan A and your plan B? I guarantee you it was no time before year five or six.
Joe Haden
No, it wasn't. I went.
Deebo Samuel
You were going. You were going year by year. And, and, and, and it was what it was whenever they got done. So they cut you week one. Now what?
Joe Haden
I was gonna be a personal. I was gonna be a personal trainer. I was going to try to start a jam.
Deebo Samuel
Now, at what point, though, would you have given up on that dream? That's why guys do. That's why so many guys find it hard to let go of the game because they don't get to leave it when they want to leave it and the game leaves them. And now they're fighting for their life, trying to get back into it, because that's all they know. That's all they can think about now. They're trying to get into it in coaching, whatever it is that they can do.
Joe Haden
Man, I feel you, but that's where I'm saying that we can't put. That's from a jit, though, from a kid. We got to start understanding you can't put all the eggs in one basket because the percent of people that are going to make it to the pros, you know what I'm saying? You can go to college for free. You can be able to go to school for free. But starting off from the beginning, always knowing, like, boom, league for sure, but that's going to be able to get you to pay for school. And then having a plan on, like, what are you going to school for? Hey, hey, Joe, I want to be.
Deebo Samuel
If I told you that as a kid, if your dad told you that as a kid, hey, man, don't you put all your eggs in one basket.
Joe Haden
No, no, see, I would. I was like working hard and I was doing the same thing, like with.
Deebo Samuel
I'm telling you, don't put all your eggs in the same basket. When I say, son, make sure you get your grades.
Joe Haden
Yes, good, good grades. That's what I'm saying.
Deebo Samuel
Make sure you graduate, you earn. You earn your degree.
Joe Haden
Yes, yes.
Deebo Samuel
I'm telling you that. I'm telling you. Okay, but to actually come out and be like, hey, like, dude, my, my fallback plan, I didn't. I'm gonna be 100 honest with you, dude. I didn't have a plan on what the hell I was going to do.
Joe Haden
Me either.
Deebo Samuel
I had my son, Joe. I had my son at 29, 2007 December. And I'm in year like 6, 5, 6, something like that, bro. And I had no plan, bro. I ain't had no plan. But you know what my plan was, Joe? I said, this is great. I get to play football. And up to that point, bro, I had made maybe, hell, I don't know, maybe a few million dollars, maybe 3, 4, 5 million dollars. 3, 3, 3 million, something like that. Because I had my first contract, maybe 3 million. And you know what I had, Joe?
Joe Haden
What?
Deebo Samuel
I had 300. I had $300,000 at a house that had mortgage on it of 300,000, 320,000. That was it. Nothing else.
Joe Haden
Thank.
Deebo Samuel
And now I feel it. I got a son. I'm like, holy crap, is no longer just me. I'm looking at this dude and I'm like, oh my God, what am I going to do? I can no longer live just for me. I have to make a future. That's the only reason that I started planning for the future. Because it was no longer about me, it was about him. And then it was about them. When my other son came in 2009, like, I had nothing saved up. From that point though, I'm gonna tell you, real talk. I invested everything I had. Except for I did buy a car. I did buy a car, okay? But that cost way too much and I shouldn't have got it. But I did get to go 186 miles in it.
Joe Haden
186 miles an hour. See, on the track.
Deebo Samuel
On the track.
Joe Haden
Okay, thank you.
Deebo Samuel
On the track, Joe. On the track. It damn sure wasn't worth it. I don't even think I put right. It's a bad thing. I don't even think I put 8, 000 miles on that car before I got rid of it like it was. I mean, I had to go through it and do it because for sure, but I mean, you know, it's just the quicker.
Joe Haden
That's what I'm saying, the quicker, the quicker it is, the quicker you, you live and you learn when you go.
Deebo Samuel
But the point of the matter is, dude, I never had a. I never had a backup plan.
Joe Haden
What kind of car was it?
Deebo Samuel
Huh?
Joe Haden
What kind of car was it?
Deebo Samuel
Yeah, why I gotta tell you? What you mean?
Joe Haden
You bringing up the story. You trying.
Deebo Samuel
My bad. It's. It was.
Joe Haden
I know you got that Dough.
Deebo Samuel
It was. It was. It was a. It was a Benz. It was a AMG65 Designio Edition.
Joe Haden
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, huh?
Deebo Samuel
Custom built from Germany, I ain't gonna lie. By. By Turbo. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Haden
Yeah, all that.
Deebo Samuel
Hey, I got him chipped out, man. He was putting about 828. 825 to the rear wheels, man. Oh, man.
Joe Haden
Come on. Yeah, tell me about it.
Deebo Samuel
I ain't gonna lie, Joe. That was back when I was a fool.
Joe Haden
Yeah. You know, they.
Deebo Samuel
They messed around and gave me. Gave me $30 and I. I went to the. I went to the. I went to the. I went to the casino and I bet everything and. On a 4 parlay. And I came away with the money to buy it.
Joe Haden
Come on,
Deebo Samuel
Tipo, you a wild man.
Joe Haden
You a wild man, brother. Man.
Deebo Samuel
No, I want me to tell you what's wild, man.
Joe Haden
What's up.
Deebo Samuel
What's wild is what A.J. brown said when he admitted to. He leaked the story about the Eagles to the media. He said this was his motivation for it. Listen to this, bro. It was done purposely to give us a push. I know if I say something in the media, I know it's gonna propel.
Joe Haden
Propel us to work on it.
Deebo Samuel
If you say what you need to say in the media, which I won't do that anymore.
Joe Haden
It gives everything legs and legs to
Deebo Samuel
push into, to push everybody to be.
Joe Haden
To be better.
Deebo Samuel
Because pressure. Pressure isn't always a bad thing. It can also be a good thing, too.
Joe Haden
Honestly, I feel like it was okay
Deebo Samuel
to do because we had guys in
Joe Haden
the locker room who are men.
Deebo Samuel
Hey, Joe.
Joe Haden
Yo.
Deebo Samuel
What you think of that? Huh?
Joe Haden
What you think, Debo? What you think? Okay.
Deebo Samuel
Okay, here.
Joe Haden
OG perspective. What you think?
Deebo Samuel
Hey, I'm give you a little perspective. Okay? So, you know, I don't know that I agree with this or like, I don't know. So here it is. I feel like that's something that he could have did behind closed doors where he could have talked directly to his guys, directly to his teammates, and trying to get it done that way. Unless. Unless it's something where you're not a loud to talk to or talk about certain things or to certain players because the coach doesn't want it to happen or doesn't allow it to happen.
Joe Haden
Okay.
Deebo Samuel
And that, you know, as you know, sometimes that is just player dependent on who it is. Player is what they feel like. That player can. Can. Can take what criticism they can take. And, you know, that may be one of those things, right? There where it was like, okay, I can't talk to him directly. And then you take the fact that, you know, he actually wants to get out of there. He wasn't happy with being there. You know, him wanting to leave and be somewhere else. He might have just took an opportunity and said, you know what? This could help make us better. And I'm gonna be able to get this off my chest because I can't say nothing here because of whatever's going on internally that they may not allow or the coaches don't allow. You know how that grows through. Hey, man, you can't say that to certain. Certain people. You can't say that. This. This. This people, you know what I'm saying? Because they might not be reactive to that, that I die. So I think that might have been something where he did that in that way. But when I'm looking back at the whole big picture of it, that ain't nothing about putting pressure on nobody, man. And like he said, I wouldn't do that no more. Why? Because he had the Patriots. Yeah, I wouldn't do that no more. You know what I'm saying? Well, how, you know, you don't get there and it's the same sort of thing. I mean, I'm sure it's not go B. Because they, you know, they have more of a. An accountability, I think, you know, just from, you know, what we've seen of them. But what do you think?
Joe Haden
I think A.J. brown right here is just kind of admitting that when you tweet something or when you say something, you know what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? Anytime that, like, when you tweet something, you know what kind of stuff is going to stare up so you can say something indirectly and be knowing, like, the media's going to take whatever you say and spin it to what it is. So basically, AJ's just letting me know he's hip to. Whenever he does something, when he's sitting on the sideline, he's not saying the words, but you pull out a book, then people get to ask you questions. If you write a tweet about something, and you could be just writing something, a cryptic message, and. And now anybody could take that for what they want to think it is, and they could spend some stuff, you could say some stuff blatantly. And your Twitter account, it just shows that you know what you're doing. Do you know what I'm saying? He gave an inside scoop to now. Hopefully it doesn't happen in New England. He did this because he felt.
Deebo Samuel
No, he said I wouldn't do that no more. It's not. Hopefully. He said I wouldn't do that no more.
Joe Haden
That's what I'm saying. But if it gets to a bad situation and then he just starts to tweet.
Deebo Samuel
I'm just telling you what he said, man.
Joe Haden
I. No, no, no, no. That's why I feel you.
Deebo Samuel
I feel you.
Joe Haden
But he ain't been there yet. But look at all smiles. It seems all good now. But just now leaving the team and him right now, him saying this is letting you know when he was there, everything that he was doing was on purpose. Y' all thought any of that stuff that he was putting out, he knew what was going to get spun. He was trying to. They was going to help him on this stuff to get him up out of there, tell some of the teammates how he felt without him having to just sit there in front of media and answer questions or bring it up himself. He just got to shoot a little thing to the side. This gonna get them thinking what I want them to think. Cause I ain't about to just sit here and look crazy. But yeah, here. Here's for Yalls interpretation. You know what I'm saying? And then I'm basically running the narrative how I want to.
Deebo Samuel
Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't know if I believe, like this was his goal or that was his goal. I think he might have sit back and was like, you know what? Let me try to spend this some way to where it seems motivational. I don't know, Debo. But dude, I'm not going to the media and anything to them.
Joe Haden
You don't got to. That's why he's motivate, man.
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Deebo Samuel
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Deebo Samuel
And you just put in your info and boom.
Ryan Seacrest
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Joe Haden
Mom needs a second.
Ryan Seacrest
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Deebo Samuel
You can really have it delivered.
Ryan Seacrest
Really? Or I can pick it up at the dealership.
Deebo Samuel
One sec sweetie.
Ryan Seacrest
Mommy's buying a car.
Mommy, look.
Deebo Samuel
I think your kid is walking up the slide. Kyle.
Joe Haden
Again?
Ryan Seacrest
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Deebo Samuel
Buy your car online.
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Joe Haden
At TopGolf, it's to get the pot cooking and then asking other everybody else questions in the locker room. For him to be like, this end of the day, I'm trying to get up out of here. So I'm just saying stuff. And I know at the end of the day, this is for me.
Deebo Samuel
I'm trying to get out of here
Joe Haden
wondering about what's going on. My plan is to get out of this joint. Like, I don't care what y' all are talking about, how y' all think.
Deebo Samuel
Joe, I know you know what I'm saying. Hey, Joe, when I was there in Pittsburgh my last year, bro, you did not see the normal debo, bro. No, bro. Anything to try and get them to
Joe Haden
get you was trying to get got out of there. And that's one like, you could just be normally chilling, vibing, but then you, when you start just doing stuff teams is like, you just creating a little stuff for. No, but you're not being relating. But you like this, this is kind of checked out a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
Deebo Samuel
Listen, bro, I, I, I wasn't gonna go as far to talk to the media, bro. Yeah, I'm like, man, I'm gonna try and do this all back here. Like, I'm not about to go to the media and just start saying and going goofy. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Haden
Yes, bro. And it's not nobody place to speak, man. They chilling. Whatever. Nobody. No whatever. We chilling crazy.
Deebo Samuel
Yeah. I think he might have sat back and was like, yo, let me try and spend this in some kind of way. I don't, I just don't think that was his goal first starting off into it. I think him going over now to New England, maybe he's thinking like, you know, I don't want the guys to think that, you know, I'm. That I'm that kind of dude. Like, that's what I do. That's how, you know. But, brother, this was my thought process in that. I wouldn't do nothing like that again, though. But this is what I was thinking.
Joe Haden
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's what it was. But no, he's trying to get about it.
Deebo Samuel
Santa Clara county district attorney's office has issued A arrest warrant for Brandon. How you say that? Last name. Ayiku. Are you on a misdemeanor charge of exhibition of speeding? Dude. The arrest warrant is tied to his Instagram post from last year where he recorded himself doing close to 100 miles an hour past Levi's Stadium. Do we got that?
Joe Haden
I think I. I know I've seen it before.
Deebo Samuel
We don't have that, man. Look here. How do.
Joe Haden
Is it a.
Deebo Samuel
Do they have, like. I mean, he shouldn't be doing that. Let me stop say that right now. You shouldn't be out there speeding. I don't even know what the speed limit is there.
Joe Haden
It's definitely done it past the stadium.
Deebo Samuel
Yeah, you can't. You can't. You can't. You can't be burning up. Yeah, you can't burn up the block like that. Especially past the stadium, I'm assuming. It damn sure ain't on the highway, is it? I don't know. That's the only thing I. I don't know. But you can't be doing 100 miles an hour. Is there some type of statute of limitation on. On like, speeding?
Joe Haden
This is what I'm saying, odibo.
Deebo Samuel
I know. He shouldn't be doing it.
Joe Haden
He shouldn't be doing it. You said that first. And also, he's doing it with his own recorded phone, showing himself going by the speedometer and the stadium at the same time. And you're driving that fast.
Deebo Samuel
That's no hands. They said no hands.
Joe Haden
Had to be at some point.
Deebo Samuel
He had no hands on the wheel.
Joe Haden
Oh, that man is knees with it. Going to Honda. That could get like. Come on, bruh. Sometimes dudes get to doing some wild things.
Deebo Samuel
Brody, what are you thinking, man?
Joe Haden
Not thinking.
Deebo Samuel
I think everybody want to put something on social media so bad and have something that go viral that'll go viral.
Joe Haden
And it just did.
Deebo Samuel
It just did. About to get you locked up. Yes, but you get locked up.
Ryan Seacrest
That's record.
Joe Haden
Stop snitching on yourself.
Deebo Samuel
Anything over 20 or 20 over, I'm pretty sure the speed limit ain't 80 there.
Joe Haden
No, not no, bruh. Like, gotta make smarter decisions, my brother.
Deebo Samuel
I ain't about to go and tell on myself, man. They trying to get. They trying to get something viral for clicks, and now you about to go get locked up, bro.
Joe Haden
Yeah, this is not. It's not the movie. Bo. We gotta.
Deebo Samuel
That is not the movie.
Joe Haden
You had the bread. He got the whole situation with the contract going on with the 49ers. You signed a big contract. You got your Life ahead of you. You know what I'm saying? You got to got the lock in, baby. You got to lock in because you
Deebo Samuel
got quick, quick, quick, quick. And in a hurry, man. Sports illustrated released the NFL's best offensive triple threat. Triples, triplets for 20, 26. So they talking about the starting quarterback, running back, tight end, or receiver.
Joe Haden
Okay, and
Deebo Samuel
the top 10. Oh, snap. Hey, Joe.
Joe Haden
Yes, sir.
Deebo Samuel
Guess where the Browns at?
Joe Haden
Oh, we ain't on. We ain't on here.
Deebo Samuel
It's all 31. I know where you're at 31
Joe Haden
because we. It's the youth. What are the Steelers? What is still us?
Deebo Samuel
Better than y'. All.
Joe Haden
Ask the question. Can I get a number?
Deebo Samuel
21?
Joe Haden
21. Okay.
Deebo Samuel
Better than y', all because I remember they had us at 31, 32, before
Joe Haden
we got a quarterback, before Aaron Rodgers signed.
Deebo Samuel
Huh. Huh? Anyway, man, top 10, they got Chargers, then they got the Eagles, 49ers, Chiefs, Bangles. I don't know about that. I don't think Patrick Mahone will be back like that. Cowboys, Bills, Ravens, Ravens three. Yeah, they do got Derek Henry.
Joe Haden
Come on. I mean, trying to look.
Deebo Samuel
So Lions and the Rams finish off Lions 2, huh? Nah, I ain't gonna give them that. They got it. They got the names. But I don't know if they go get the production because they couldn't do nothing last year. They didn't even make the playoffs. And you got them at 2 because of the.
Joe Haden
I mean. Yes.
Deebo Samuel
What do you think from 1 to 10? You agree with that? You don't. Where you at with that?
Joe Haden
I'm kind of thinking you gotta go with quarterback first. So with quarterbacks, they got. When you thinking. I mean, Jared. Jared Goff is the one. When you saying that you don't like the Lions there, that's probably the only one that might could go a little bit up. But when you think about, you gotta have a receiver, you gotta have a tight end, it's just quarterback. Joe Burrow. Jamar Ja'. Marr. Chase. Chase. Dude, that right there, you like that more than.
Deebo Samuel
I like Joe Burrow more than Jared Goff right now.
Joe Haden
Oh, no, for sure. But then do you like Jamar Gibbs more than Chase Brown?
Deebo Samuel
Nah, I like Jamar Gibbs better.
Joe Haden
Okay, and then what is the level of Amara St. Brown compared to Jamar Chase? How much more do you like Chase than Amara?
Deebo Samuel
Ooh, that's like.
Joe Haden
That's where it gets a little. Okay, so then that's why I kind of.
Deebo Samuel
Okay, I like the quarterback more. Like two to six. That's Come on, man. Bump them somewhere up. Bangles could go down a little further. I ain't gonna trip on them.
Joe Haden
Yeah, I could see why, you know, with our, With. With our teams.
Deebo Samuel
I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess Chase Brown is the. Is the holdout for the six, I
Joe Haden
guess, but I don't.
Deebo Samuel
Yeah. James Cook. I get
Joe Haden
Henry.
Deebo Samuel
Hell yeah. Gibbs there.
Joe Haden
Because with the Steelers.
Deebo Samuel
Williams, Williams, Stafford, Williams and Puka. Yes, Williams, it.
Joe Haden
Brother, it's. Let me tell you something. It doesn't have to be all. Williams is nice, solid. But when you go with Puka, solid. I know Puka and the mvp, you got Puka number one in yards of receiver, and then you got the MVP quarterback, Stafford. So with those two, like, don't. I, like,
Deebo Samuel
I can't put the Ravens that high. I just don't. I don't. I don't feel like Lamar will be able to get the ball to. I feel like Lamar is a generational quarterback, but as far as being a quarterback that's gonna stand in that pocket and dip dap and zap your ass. I don't feel like that's him.
Joe Haden
And if you get Lamar Jackson and King Henry, it's those two.
Deebo Samuel
I understand that. But when you go and you go ahead and you say, I'm gonna go ahead and put 13, 11 in the box and you go ahead and stop that run, they have problems. Make Lamar beat you is a problem.
Joe Haden
I hear you,
Deebo Samuel
like, look like that's why we have so much success against them, bro. That was the first thing. Like, yo, we're going to make him beat us. Like, we're going to try. And when we don't and they run that rock, it's over. Yeah, it's over. When we say, all right, hell. Hell to that. Like, no running the rock. We go do everything we can. Everybody up, man. And. And go. We do it.
Joe Haden
No lies told. But that's the light. But that's the Russian leader and the mvp. So I'm, I, I could see why they up there, Lamar.
Deebo Samuel
I understand that, but three, you got it above Allen Cook. Well, you ain't got no real receiver.
Joe Haden
That's the same thing with the Bills.
Deebo Samuel
Yes, Bills and the Ravens. You got a quarterback and a running back. Receivers solid.
Joe Haden
They going with that. I can go. You can go. Toss up Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. I'm going to Mike Derek King, James Cook just as far. Yeah, I think that's what you could. You could, you could. You could switch either one of those. They could be three or Four. You right.
Deebo Samuel
It's just that the quarterback thing is what's making me want to pull Joe down here. Burrow. Yeah.
Joe Haden
Who do you like more? Joe Burrow. Josh Allen.
Deebo Samuel
Joe Burrow.
Joe Haden
You like Joe Burrow more than Josh Allen?
Deebo Samuel
Yes.
Joe Haden
Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson.
Deebo Samuel
Joe Burrow.
Joe Haden
Joe Burrow. Matthew Stafford.
Deebo Samuel
Toss up right there. Dang.
Joe Haden
Okay. No, you up. Okay. Joe Burrow. Justin Herbert.
Deebo Samuel
Joe Burrow.
Joe Haden
Joe Burrow. Jalen hurts.
Deebo Samuel
Joe Burrow.
Joe Haden
Okay, I'm with you. I'm with you with all of those, but Matty Ice. Joe Burrow. Josh Allen. I'm probably going to go with Josh Allen.
Deebo Samuel
Josh go out there and he go take off running. He go fumble the ball. He go throw an interception. At some point, I feel like Joe just like. And he ain't got nothing to protect him, man. Get a line around him. Give him the line. Josh got, man, hell, what you talking about? He ain't gotta run. Give him that line. This Pittsburgh still is got. He ain't got to do nothing. Joe Burrow. You ain't got to do nothing. Come over to Pittsburgh next year.
Joe Haden
Give him a little bit of. Give him a little defense. Give him a little line.
Deebo Samuel
Hey, a whole lot of defense.
Joe Haden
A whole lot of defense. Got a good line.
Deebo Samuel
Good line. Good line coming. We about to be top line at least. Top two, three line in league. Joe, they gonna be over there. You'll be over there getting smacked from the left, right side to side. You ain't even know hit you. They gonna be talking about, whose man was that? I'm just telling you, it ain't gonna be nobody's, man. He could be like, I whooped, and they could just go right over the top, and they'll be right there in front of your face. Joe, I'm just trying to tell you, Burrow, don't. Don't let him. Don't let him waste your life in your career over there.
Joe Haden
Now. Don't triple.
Deebo Samuel
Don't trip.
Joe Haden
Don't trip.
Deebo Samuel
Come on over here, man. Listen to me. We're trying to talk to you about something. That's all I'm saying.
Joe Haden
Diva. Who you got tonight, though?
Deebo Samuel
Hey, hey.
Joe Haden
Who do you have tonight?
Deebo Samuel
Here's the problem. Here's the problem. Oh, man, I'm scared. I'm nervous, man. Can he gain £20 in two days?
Joe Haden
No. No, he can't. He's gonna do. You gonna need him, what he's grown to do. So he's gonna just have to be more aggressive early.
Deebo Samuel
What can you eat? What's up, boy?
Joe Haden
When we gonna have to just be aggressive early.
Deebo Samuel
What's up? Say what's up to the people.
Joe Haden
What's happening?
Tab Ramos
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Deebo Samuel
Right there. What up?
Joe Haden
What up?
Deebo Samuel
Put your face down. Down here. There you go.
Joe Haden
What's up, brother?
Deebo Samuel
What's happening?
Joe Haden
How you, man? I'm all right.
Deebo Samuel
I'm all right.
Joe Haden
Okay. Good to see you, my boy.
Deebo Samuel
Good to see you, too. This the one. This the one that made me change up. I had.
Joe Haden
I had.
Deebo Samuel
I had to go and. I had to go and start. Start saving money and. And making money. He done spent. He done spent more money done made. And on what? On everything in life. What he eating?
Ryan Seacrest
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Deebo Samuel
He eating too much. I mean, he don't. He got. He got. He got. He got guns.
Joe Haden
You gotta get big on. You got to.
Deebo Samuel
You can't.
Joe Haden
Come on. Oh, he got the good show. Yeah. Yeah. Show him something. Show him something. Yeah, Debo.
Deebo Samuel
All right. Love you.
Joe Haden
Come on. Young, like, like. Son like.
Deebo Samuel
Listen, man, I don't know what's going on, man. I don't even know who. I don't know, kid that is, man.
Joe Haden
They put.
Deebo Samuel
They put. They. They put me. They put me in. They gave me the charge for it, and, you know, the hospital switched. They gave me a swimming dog.
Joe Haden
I don't know, man. You got. You got the last. The light skin. Debo stepped in that joint. Smooth Criminal, love to see.
Deebo Samuel
Listen, I' ma go. I. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Spurs.
Joe Haden
Okay.
Deebo Samuel
They got to.
Joe Haden
They have to.
Deebo Samuel
Ain't got no choice.
Joe Haden
They have to.
Deebo Samuel
They fighting for their life right now
Joe Haden
because if they don't on Monday, that's gonna be.
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Joe Haden
The next game they'll be down 02 and it's going to be in New York and it's going to be hopping in there and down 02 after you just lost two at the crib. And we got to see how this game goes down. Like you're saying, Debo, bruh, do you
Deebo Samuel
see what the tickets went to in New York?
Joe Haden
Oh, yeah. You know, they not playing, bruh.
Deebo Samuel
The cheapest seat right now I think is damn near eight grand, bruh.
Joe Haden
Watch it from the comfort of your own home. Have your homies. I want to be locked in to where I could just be able to go to the restroom fast. Boom, back. Go get a. If I need a cocktail right here, fast. Right here. Chilling. I need to be able to be locked in to this game.
Deebo Samuel
Bro, you locking in ain't gonna help them win or lose.
Joe Haden
Bro, me knocking in. I'm just saying I love basketball.
Deebo Samuel
Who you got?
Joe Haden
Who I got? See, I said, I said the series is going to go seven. I remember I told you my heart I wanted to.
Deebo Samuel
You ain't say they was go lose the first game.
Joe Haden
I said the Knicks was going to win game one. That's what I said.
Deebo Samuel
Okay, I'll give you that then.
Joe Haden
Good.
Deebo Samuel
All right, so we might go seven. We might go seven then.
Joe Haden
The only thing that's looking crazy is I had in my mindset for the Go7 Spurs. I mean, Knicks was going to win game one. Spurs were supposed to win game two. All I'm saying is the only way my prediction is going to change then for show after this. If the Knicks win this game and then they go down two. Oh, they're. They're finished. They're finished. They might get gentlemen swept at the worst case scenario. A gentleman swatch means five games in favor of the Knicks.
Deebo Samuel
Listen, I'm trying to tell you, they don't win this game, man. This is. Hey, everything over with but the. But the slow walking and singing. Everything over but the slow walking, the singing. Man, jump onto these super chats, man.
Joe Haden
What we got?
Deebo Samuel
Super chat. We got Mike and Mike, $105. He said, what up, Debo and Joe? Speaking of crazy wimby fan who spent money to get banned for life. What was y' all craziest fan interaction? You already know mine.
Joe Haden
You already know yours, Debo. I ain't never really had too much. It's just in the tunnel talking. Just talking crazy. Nothing. That's it. You ain't had no.
Deebo Samuel
You have to put your hands on nobody ever.
Joe Haden
You know me. I'm. I'm chilling. Chilling. Do, do do, do do. Nobody was messing with Jody.
Deebo Samuel
Oh, ain't nobody running up on you.
Joe Haden
Nah. Cause. Cause I don't look like I'm. I don't look to be played with. That's why, Devo.
Deebo Samuel
That's what it is.
Joe Haden
Yeah.
Deebo Samuel
Or maybe it was just like, there was, like, you ain't a threat, so it wasn't nothing to run up on.
Joe Haden
Exactly. I take either one. No harm, no foul.
Deebo Samuel
Okay. I mean, I was too much of a threat to be ran up on.
Joe Haden
That's what it was, man.
Deebo Samuel
See what I'm saying?
Joe Haden
Somebody's going to. That's what I'm saying. All right.
Deebo Samuel
I'm always looking.
Joe Haden
I'm always aware. I'm always surroundings.
Deebo Samuel
Always, always aware of my surroundings, Joe.
Joe Haden
Always. I can see. I can see the lawnmower man right there at the corner of my eye.
Deebo Samuel
Listen, man, and my son, he lucky I realized who it was because, you know, I'm always. Got that thing. You know what I'm saying? He lucky, you know?
Joe Haden
Come on. Come on.
Deebo Samuel
Covenant. Like $50.
Joe Haden
Come on.
Deebo Samuel
Coveted, she said. Joe, serious question, please. Miles hit Mason with the helmet. Were you secretly a Steelers fan? For three business days. Now that Miles isn't a Brown, Mason can finally stop checking for flying equipment. As a Steeler, once, as a Stiller, once Brown. How? As a Stiller what?
Joe Haden
As a Steeler and like, once a Brown. How did you feel?
Deebo Samuel
Okay.
Joe Haden
Cool. As a Steeler, once a Brown. How did I feel? I felt. Honestly, I wanted to make. I didn't. If you get hit upside your head with the helmet, that's scary. I was a little bit scared. I was scared at first because if you get cracked upside your head with a helmet, that could be. That could be crazy. Then my man Pouncey. I love to see how, you know, defense mechanism. My man just jumped in there and started to get right. So, I mean, I thought. I didn't know what Mason said. I wasn't out there. It looked wild. So I was just kind of like, come on, Miles, you can't be swinging a helmet. I felt a little wild for Mason to get the helmet swung on him. Love my man Pouncey. Cause we went to Florida together. Knew he got his teammate back. No matter what, something's going. He in there trying to get right, and that's what you supposed to do for your teammate. No matter what. Throw him for tmt. So, yeah, that's how I felt. It was all crazy.
Deebo Samuel
Okay, okay, Joe. I understand, man. I understand.
Joe Haden
Okay.
Deebo Samuel
How you feel right now, though? Right now. Right now.
Joe Haden
Oh, man, that's you.
Deebo Samuel
Oh, that's right. You know, that's where I'm at.
Joe Haden
You gotta grow. Everybody do better.
Deebo Samuel
Mikey. Mikey back, man. He back with no $5, man.
Joe Haden
Whatever.
Deebo Samuel
If the Steelers can't afford Joe Burrow under the salary cap, you can always hook him up like Clippers did. Kawhi, what they. What they do to quality?
Joe Haden
They did. They did. They had some secret deals. The owner had some little side business deals. Ended up giving them some money on the. On the side side, you know, pretty up the deal. They say, hey, allegedly.
Deebo Samuel
Allegedly.
Joe Haden
Allegedly. So I ain't gonna be the one. Yeah. So that's what they talk about, though, in there. Clippers did a little yellow off the. Off the book deal, John. That's what they say. What? Allegedly. How do you get away with that? They obviously, if your man Mike. Mike knows something, then they ain't get away with it.
Deebo Samuel
They ain't get away with Nathan.
Joe Haden
Come on, man. They thought they did was in the books.
Deebo Samuel
It gotta be somewhere.
Joe Haden
You. If you go, when did that happen, bro? It's happening. You could go look and see. It's still going through the process. You know, they right now, man. Debo, Debo, you go, yo, when did this start? When you get off the line? Probably like when Kawhi went. Since when Kawhi signed with the Clippers? Probably I don't know how long after, but I known about it for at least a year.
Deebo Samuel
Oh, my.
Joe Haden
Yeah. And you know how that stuff. You hear about it, and I'm just waiting and you know, due to court systems, they got both of everybody got so much do over there, they could just keep. You know what I'm saying? Wine, that junk. I don't know how long it could go.
Deebo Samuel
Mm.
Joe Haden
You never know.
Deebo Samuel
So is that legal or is that illegal?
Joe Haden
Illegal.
Deebo Samuel
What if I want a person to give you something as just.
Joe Haden
That's because. That's why. I think that's why you have the salary caps. That's against salary caps. You can't be getting no other side bread. That's like. That's off books. That's. You know what I'm saying?
Deebo Samuel
Right? I'm not paying. What if I'm not paying you for playing? I'm paying you for an appearance, my friend.
Joe Haden
You, my friend.
Deebo Samuel
I'm paying you for.
Joe Haden
I don't know if that's the way that the. I don't know if that's the way
Deebo Samuel
the league works, though, coaching my son's little league basketball team or something, I
Joe Haden
think all of this stuff is not above board.
Deebo Samuel
I don't know. I feel like it's a way you can make it above board, Joe. And now that I'm thinking, I feel like. I feel like we could probably get something done. I. Mike, I'm a. I'm gonna have to talk to Joe. Because the kind of money that we need for Joe Burrow, I think I ain't got it. But Joe, I know Joe, he was, you know, he came up in that old era, you know, I know he's sitting. You know, I know he's sitting over there. Look at that jacket. He got every little bone. You know how much money that costs? That boy got on a fresh fit, fresh jersey every day. Fresh.
Joe Haden
Come on, man.
Deebo Samuel
I'm sitting over here rotating through the name five hats, man.
Joe Haden
Bro, you have about eight T shirts. Come on, man.
Deebo Samuel
You are, man, I ain't lying, man. They the stills gave this to me, man, because it. It was free. If. If it's free, give me three.
Joe Haden
You know, See, Debo, this one I'm thinking about. If you say if an owner. So say if you played in the league and you. If the contracts was like they didn't have no more like, oh, no, our salary cap's looking messed up. They tell you, boom. No, but I got this couple ends on the side right here. That is. We're gonna determine hope maybe by the court if that is illegal or not. I don't know. I think it may be. So the court will determine.
Deebo Samuel
The court can't determine what I could do with my money as a billionaire.
Joe Haden
But they can determine.
Deebo Samuel
I can't get nobody no money, Joe. Why for I can't get nobody.
Joe Haden
You not somebody's no money. One of your players that you just gave a contract onto your basketball team.
Deebo Samuel
But I got him doing extracurricular outside of the basketball. I got a pain folk. His time.
Joe Haden
Community service.
Deebo Samuel
Yes.
Joe Haden
That we would do for the team. When you go.
Deebo Samuel
No, no, no, no. Hell no. Not that, not that, not that, but that.
Joe Haden
Well, how you gonna make it?
Deebo Samuel
Probably pay him in another business that I have. Another business venture. Yes.
Joe Haden
But then I'm saying no. But then that's no.
Deebo Samuel
I can. I can do this. That's the way that you can come. I'm. I'm Joe. I'm going to have everybody on. Okay? I'm gonna find a way, Joe.
Joe Haden
We will see.
Deebo Samuel
I. I'm Joe. I'm Just trying to tell you, man, I need to hit. I need to hit the lottery so I could come up with like 1.2 billion real fast.
Joe Haden
Are you going to be a. Are you going to use some of
Deebo Samuel
that crooked as hell.
Joe Haden
Are you going to use some of those funds to help get Burrow?
Deebo Samuel
Yes, of course, man. Listen, man, I'm a tie. I'm a tie my 10, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna do some kingdom building too. So I'm gonna get.
Joe Haden
We gonna have a little nil basically pot that we can get for the side.
Deebo Samuel
It's gonna be a whole business over here where it's gonna be like, okay, man, you come and you signing this. Y' all sitting here, y' all talking
Joe Haden
about all of this needs to have you. All of this needs to be above board. It is okay.
Deebo Samuel
It's another business where they go come and spend time with my kids. I got to pay them for their time and they time.
Joe Haden
Okay. Yeah. No, for sure. I'm rocking with that. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Okay. I'm picking up what you putting down.
Deebo Samuel
You're right. 250, 000 for every 30 minutes.
Joe Haden
Yep.
Deebo Samuel
Wow, man. Coming to life. Back, man.
Joe Haden
That's uncomfortable.
Deebo Samuel
Back again for $50. She said from the 2026 to 2027 season, what team is getting away with too much hype and what team is being completely overlooked right now? She said, be honest. Who has more pressure this season? The Steelers to prove they are contenders or the Browns living up to expect? Browns ain't got no damn pressure to cover life.
Joe Haden
We got no pressure like that. We can go out here and everybody's expecting us to shit to bed. So we have the bottom of the most expectations. So we can. We like we gonna surprise the world. We're gonna shock everybody. Nobody.
Deebo Samuel
Nobody's listen to him.
Joe Haden
Anything from us Covenant. I'm hoping that's why you sound like me. I'm excited. Browns fan. Cause I can go out there. Everybody's expecting us to lose. Let's go do what we supposed to do. So don't worry about Browns. Don't worry about the Browns. I think the most slept on team is the Steelers because they've been going and getting things that they need from the season. Last year they won the division. It might not have been as pretty as everybody's expecting, but we went in that division with the. With Joe Burrow, with Lamar Jackson, with all of those guys and won it. I don't care what nobody's saying, we got them. And now We've got better players, running backs. We added receiver. We added another corner. Another year. Different coaching staff. When people won't have those. Yes thing coaching staff. Offense wanted to look better. Defense, let's not have these busts and all that craziness Team, I think that's going to have the most expectations. The Rams. You went and did what you needed to do. You got Trent McDuffie.
Deebo Samuel
Yes.
Joe Haden
As a secondary corner. Then you went and got Miles Garrett.
Deebo Samuel
You are right now to win the championship.
Joe Haden
You are expecting you're the leader to win the ship so.
Deebo Samuel
And when we do, that's gonna hurt themselves.
Joe Haden
Mess around slipping this. Get into the playoffs and start looking good when two playoff games. Next thing you know we're in the. We're in the division. Like we can win one and go to the ship. I like for the Steelers to be able to sneak in the joint. Go crazy.
Deebo Samuel
And I ain't sneaking in nothing. I'm kicking in the damn front door right now.
Joe Haden
We sneaking because nobody know. You know. You know you know I know. You know. I know you know. I know you know I know. But we gonna keep it on the chair. We gonna milk that.
Deebo Samuel
Let them have we sneaking. They sleeping. That's all that's happening.
Joe Haden
I'm let everybody sleep.
Deebo Samuel
Y' all stay sleep. Yeah, y' all stay sleep if y' all want to. Y' all gonna realize something. You damn right realize something. Keep on playing with me. Three stars about to mean something. Y' all gonna understand, buddy. Y' all gonna realize. Y' all gonna show. Y' all gonna start showing some respect. That's still them three stars on your chest. That name go start meaning what it has meant for a whole legendary history of a Pittsburgh Steelers organization. That means you about to be up against some smash mouth football old lines that go ahead and jump and pile on your ass after they drive you into the ground. You understand?
Joe Haden
Yeah.
Deebo Samuel
They gonna call us Night Quail. All legal. All legal, Beagle.
Joe Haden
All legal.
Deebo Samuel
You understand. Sleep on us if y' all want to. You be put to sleep.
Joe Haden
Come on.
Deebo Samuel
It's back. Believe that.
Joe Haden
I'm rocking.
Deebo Samuel
Debo me. If you want to play with us. If you want to. Out of your mind broke, man. Listen.
Joe Haden
Come on, man.
Deebo Samuel
Oh, my goodness, brother. Hey, we want to thank you guys.
Joe Haden
Yes.
Deebo Samuel
Joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like subscribe and download. Where you get the show, Joe?
Joe Haden
Yep. Catch us on Monday. Same time, same place. Let's get it here.
Deebo Samuel
We out. Foreign.
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In this lively, candid, and insightful episode, NFL veterans Deebo Samuel and Joe Haden tackle a range of hot-button topics in the current football landscape. The main focuses include AJ Brown’s admission about leaking information to the media, the legal trouble facing Brandon Aiyuk, and a critical breakdown of the NFL’s “offensive triplets” rankings for 2026. The conversation is rich with personal stories, blunt player-to-player advice, and the kind of unfiltered analysis only NFL insiders deliver.
The entire episode is energetic, unfiltered, and full of player-to-player truth bombs. Deebo and Joe keep it real, blending humor, life lessons, and locker-room banter without sidestepping tough issues. The language is direct, authentic, and peppered with inside jokes and shoutouts to football culture.
This episode is perfect for fans craving honest behind-the-scenes NFL talk, player mindset insights, and a good dose of gridiron reality, from media manipulation to the everyday pressures of life in the league.