Hazel E Speaks On Dating Blueface, Beef With Jaidyn Alexis, & Getting Raided With Katt Williams.

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Hazel E on Dating Blueface, Beef with Jaidyn Alexis & Getting Raided with Katt Williams

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host(s): Shannon Sharpe (with co-hosts, including Paul Pierce and a female host)
Guest: Hazel E
Release Date: June 15, 2026
Episode Focus: Hazel E discusses her relationships (notably with Blueface and Katt Williams), public feuds (especially with Jaidyn Alexis), her experiences with plastic surgery, social media hate, her business history, and the evolving landscape of celebrity culture.

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Episode Overview

This electric, unfiltered conversation highlights Hazel E’s journey through reality TV, controversial relationships, public beefs, internet culture, and resilience. Hazel opens up about her experiences in love, business, and fame—dropping gems for both her haters and fans. The hosts and Hazel explore the cultural landscape of fame, the pressures on women, and the generational divide between “real celebrities” and influencers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Hazel E & Blueface: Drama, Dating, and Clout (06:00 – 08:16)

• Current Status: Hazel E dives into her ambiguous relationship with Blueface, noting the on-again, off-again media narrative.
  • “He invited me…He saw what it was givin’, and of course, he’s tryna spin the block… He got a lot goin’ on, he gotta see which baby is his.” – Hazel E [06:13]
• Her Standards Now: She’s uninterested in “games” and stresses wanting a partner who matches her energy (and success).
  • “I married for love…Now, moving forward, I definitely feel like I should find a partner that should be, like, more of an equal to me.” – Hazel E [07:32]

Memorable Quote

“I’m in my 40s. I really don’t have time to play the game…there’s many, plenty of fish in the sea.” – Hazel E [06:50]

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Dating Younger Men & Changing Relationship Dynamics (09:14 – 12:32)

• Why Young Guys? Hazel talks about why she and her peers date younger men, pointing out that men her own age often pursue much younger women anyway.
  • “If the guys my age want the girls that are 10, 15 years younger…then now those are the guys that are available.” – Hazel E [10:05]
• Younger Men’s Appeal: Less baggage, more energy, and fewer baby mamas.
• Open for Love: Despite trends, Hazel says she remains open to love from any age group if the energy matches.

Notable Exchange

“The Y-ins, I do be havin’ fun.” – Hazel E [11:09]
“You prove it to be wrong…You married a man 14 younger years younger than you.” – Host [11:12]

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Responding to Jaidyn Alexis & Social Media Hate (14:22 – 19:36)

• The Catfish Allegation: Hazel addresses Jaidyn Alexis calling her “the biggest catfish in Hollywood.”
  • “How dare you come for me? You should really focus on not getting, you know, a dui, going to Chuck E. Cheese…” – Hazel E [15:11]
• Dealing with Hate: Hazel reveals how she processes criticism—acknowledging advice given to her by Iyanla Vanzant (“Read the comments, digest, and move on”).
  • “When I post pictures…if they could find one little thing in there to pop it about, then it’s like the whole thread. Now I’m viral…It’s never really the positivity.” – Hazel E [19:17]

Notable Quotes

“I got the most hate trending on my nose…You got evil eye on me and I crashed and broke my nose…” – Hazel E [16:34]

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Plastic Surgery, Health, & Body Image (19:41 – 22:59)

• Hazel Speaks on Surgery: Candid revelations about her nose job, BBL, and health scares.
  • “I thought I might die…it was that bad. I was just opening because I wanted to be open to the people.” – Hazel E [20:17]
• Advice for Others: Encourages body autonomy but stresses safety, recovery care, and picking reputable doctors.
  • “It’s the recovery—that’s where girls are dying at…they’re not at a proper recovery facility…” – Hazel E [21:33]

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OnlyFans, Sex Work, and Value Debates (23:03 – 29:36)

• The “Price” of Women: Engages with the viral story of someone offering $15 million for an OnlyFans virginity “V card.”
  • “I feel like it’s the discretion…We’re not paying you because you hit, we’re paying it to keep the secrets.” – Hazel E [24:04]
• Hazel’s OnlyFans Experience: She very briefly tried OnlyFans, then pivoted to Snapchat's Creator Program for a more family-friendly brand.
• Celebrity vs. Influencer: Hazel draws a strong line between her status as a “real TV star” and viral “streamers” or “OnlyFans girls.”

Quote

“There’s so many other things I could do to make money than just to have to be popping on OF, you know?” – Hazel E [29:18]

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Stories of Katt Williams, FBI Raids, & Hollywood PR (31:38 – 38:15)

• Dating Katt Williams: Hazel shares the ups and downs, including being in the house during FBI raids, going to court, and surviving public scrutiny.
  • “An FBI raid is, like, not something that I would hope anybody has to go through…It literally looks like it in a movie.” – Hazel E [32:11]
  • She credits Katt for major career help and “leveling her up,” and respects his loyalty.
• Her PR History: Hazel built her own brand before Love & Hip Hop, highlighting her extensive history in Hollywood publicity.

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Loyalty, Love & Public Betrayals (38:15 – 41:12)

• Love & Hip Hop Fallout: Hazel discusses betrayals by former friends/castmates, her role in starting the Hollywood franchise, and the difficulty finding real loyalty in showbiz.
• Industry Realness: Emphasizes there are levels to real fame and calls out entitlement among “baby mamas” and digital clout-chasers.

Quote

“Don’t put me in a baby mama category. These women who have babies by famous [men]—they’re not even famous to me either.” – Hazel E [44:09]

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The Influencer vs. Celebrity Divide (41:12 – 54:55)

• Red Carpets, Respect, & “Levels”: The panel rails against the blurring of lines between celebrities, reality stars, influencers, and those who are “just internet famous.”
  • “Don’t disrespect it…It’s real boots-on-the-ground type game. We had to walk into 10 meetings…Now it’s easier for you to be famous.” – Paul Pierce [54:23]

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Generational Wisdom, Respect, & Changing the Narrative (52:17 – 53:22)

• Hazel and the hosts talk about respect for OGs, the struggles of climbing before social media.
  • “Y’all had it way harder…as young women, y’all have to respect the people who paved the way.” – Host [53:22]

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Addressing The “Baddies”/Zeus Network Culture (57:29 – 59:57)

• On Baddies & Modern Reality TV: Hazel distances herself from newer, more chaotic shows, suggesting they lack the style, impact, and longevity of the originals.
  • “I’d prefer to bring back, like, a charm school…let’s have them walk out this experience better than they came in.” – Hazel E [59:37]

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On Generosity, Wills, and Avoiding Traditional Marriage (70:19 – 73:24)

• New Relationship Arrangements: Debates about whether marriage without legal papers—but including wills and spiritual ceremonies—is “enough.”
  • “It’s so easy to get married, it’s so hard to get unmarried… If I pass, you get everything in the will.” – B & Hazel E [71:06–71:20]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Blueface:

  “He invited me…He saw what it was givin’, and of course, he’s tryna spin the block… He got a lot goin’ on, he gotta see which baby is his.” – Hazel E [06:13]

• On Plastic Surgery:

  “People love to see the results, but they don’t understand—it’s a journey to get there and even maintain it.” – Hazel E [20:22]

• On Dealing with Haters:

  “If they not hating, then you doing something wrong.” – Paul Pierce [18:17]
  “You get more clout from the hate.” – Hazel E [19:17]

• On Real Fame:

  “I say people got to get real celebrities and streamers separated…You’re not just gonna go on Zeus or OnlyFans and find me, so when you throw these people over with us, y’all gotta know when to like step. It’s levels to this shit.” – Hazel E [41:12]

• On “Baby Mama” Culture & Entitlement:

  “Don’t put me in a baby mama category…those who have babies by famous [men]—they’re not even famous to me either.” – Hazel E [44:09]

• On The Struggle Before Social Media:

  “Before we could just post a pic and go viral, we had to get it in the mud, like, to be on how I got on. We didn’t have Instagram yet.” – Hazel E [52:52]

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Additional Memorable Segments

• [32:11] FBI Raid with Katt Williams:
  Vivid recounting of a “movie-like” house raid.
• [66:18] Marriage Trauma:
  Hazel describes a horrifying bleach-in-water incident with her ex-husband and its aftermath.
• [57:29+] The "Baddies" Discussion:
  Riffs on new vs. OG reality shows and Hazel’s desire for transformation-focused TV.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Blueface relationship: 06:00–08:16
• Dating younger men: 09:14–12:32
• Jaidyn Alexis/catfish beef: 14:22–15:43
• Handling hate: 16:14–19:36
• Plastic surgery discussion: 19:41–22:59
• Katt Williams stories: 31:38–38:15
• Industry/culture vs. influencers: 41:12–54:55
• “Baddies”/Zeus Network: Charm school pitch: 57:29–59:57
• Bleach-in-water marital incident: 66:18–69:41

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is raw, vibrant, and unapologetically honest, filled with Hazel’s humor, resilience, and clarity. She upholds her boundaries, demands recognition of her achievements, and encourages younger women to respect “OGs” and make wise, authentic choices. The conversation frequently returns to generational differences, authenticity in fame, and the importance of self-love and self-respect amid internet chaos.

For fans and newcomers alike, this episode offers an insider’s look at the evolution of reality TV fame, the personal cost of public life, the drama behind the headlines, and the unbreakable confidence of an entertainment industry survivor.

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That's hating. I mean, look.

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Come on, stand it up, honey. Stand it up, honey. Give him a turn. Do a turn. Do a turn.

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Hello.

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Do a turn.

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I'm 15 years old.

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Do a turn. Do a turn.

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I'm trying to get her to do the 360 on here and she ain't even did. Go ahead, get a turn.

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No, no, no, no, no. Come on.

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Body's fire. Thank you, crazy.

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Thank you, boo.

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I don't know. That's why I had to leave with in my catfishing today. It was a stray that came out of nowhere. I was like, when did Stewie mix with Drew Ski? Because I don't know who's cosplaying who at this point. Honestly, like, I just be confused cuz it's like who is on. Who's on the screen right now? Who said it was a Stewie Drewski? J. I don't, you know, I don't know who's being who, but it's like, girl, you look like a popsicle sticks with you know what I'm saying? A big ass bubble back there. Like that's why I'm just like, how dare you come for me? Like, yeah, you should really focus on not getting, you know, a dui. Going to Chuck E. Cheese. Like, I just. I don't got time.

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And today we have a very special guest. We're super excited. You may have seen her on your tv. She's been on reality shows. She keeps it raw, real and unapologetic. Please welcome Hazel E. What's poppin? What's poppin'? So we're so happy to have you.

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Thanks for having.

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No, you look great. You look amazing.

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No catfishing today.

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No catfishing.

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I look in real life.

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You look good. You look Good. They hate on you. Okay, we're going to get into all of that, honey. Okay?

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Because I feel like catfishing up here.

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Okay? Period. You heard it from me. So recently you've been in the media a lot, obviously. The blueface, all this shit. So let's get into that. So this. Yeah, we jump right into it. Okay. But there's just been. You guys were messing around, and I could be wrong. I'm just saying what we see on the media. And then he came out and was like, I'm not messing with her. And then you came out and was like, I'm not playing that shit. And then recently, he just said again, like, nah, she's a part of my roster, my crew. So what is going on there?

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Oh, man.

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What's the tea, honey? What's the tea?

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It's been a little viral, huh?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You've been out there kissing and Helen, right now.

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I know, right? That's the world we live in. That's crazy.

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Yeah. We were, you know, streaming. He invited me. He had been reaching kind of out, trying to, you know, check the. The temperature, because he did crash out, you know, he called me. Like, he said I was too old to be acting this young or whatever he was saying. And so then, you know, he reached out, asked me to come to stream with him and stuff, and I did. And I pulled up, you know what I'm saying? He saw what it was given, and of course, he's trying to spin the block, you know, but he got a lot going on. I feel like, you know, the chemistry is undeniable, but he got to see which baby is his. He got a lot going on right now. You know, this baby is. That baby is. I don't know if I. Like, you know, that was like, the issue. He said I didn't have enough patience or whatever.

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Okay.

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To be fair. Like, I'm a woman of a certain age. I'm in my 40s. I really don't have time to play the game.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? It's not that I don't have patience or this and that. I just feel like if you got a lot going on, you got all these alleged girls, you gotta take DNA tests, lie detector tests. It's a lot going on over there.

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He's like, that's too much.

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Yeah. Like, I mean, you know, I'm not lacking. Like, you know, I could. Like, there's many. Plenty of fish in the she. So, you know, we'll see how he comes correct. He spent a lot of Money, though, so.

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Right.

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So do you feel like a man to talk to you or to mess with you, needs to spend a certain amount of money or make a certain amount of money or be of a certain stature?

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I think at this point in my life, I married for love. You know what I'm saying? Got a beautiful daughter out of it, and he didn't have nothing. Like, I put him on. I put him on tv. Like, I gave him a career, and where did that get me? Nowhere. But having to pay to get divorced, it wasn't like, you know, easy. It was easy to get in, it was hard to get out. Right. So now, moving forward, I definitely feel like I should find a partner that should be, like, more of an equal to me. So it's not that he has to make a certain amount like that, but you gotta have a bag. Like, I already come with my own stuff. Like, I'm already, you know, successful, and I'm a great mother with my child.

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Yeah.

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So I just feel like. Yeah. And the next person that is, like, gonna be my person, he gotta match my fly period and he gotta have a bag.

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I got a question. Like, you've been married. Yeah, right? Like, I've been married. Like, is that something that you want to do again? Is that like. Like moving forward? Because, like, I'm older and I'm like, man, it was like dealing with. You had to deal with saying it was easy to get into, hard to get out.

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It was.

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You know what I'm saying? So do you feel like you want to do this again? Me knowing that this can happen again?

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I think if I marry one with more money, it'll be his issue or not.

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Hey, keep it real.

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Keep it real.

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On the real.

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On the real.

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I am not mad.

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I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm definitely going to marry up this. This time. I'm not. If I were to do it again. Because if not, then I could just, you know, I could. What they say you can do bad by yourself. Like, I can continue to do this by myself. So definitely, I feel like the next partner, I, you know, he gotta have it. He gotta have. And I don't feel bad about saying it. I don't feel bad about saying it now.

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No, you shouldn't. And so I heard you also say, like, you're, what, in your 40s, right? And you said you are dating. And I noticed a trend with this younger, right? They're like, all the women are telling me, like, I'm not in my 40s yet. I'm 35, but all the women are telling me that are in their 40s, like the young Drea and you know, all these people are saying the young is where it's at. And you said 25 is your cat, right?

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Taylor said the same thing.

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Yeah. You know who Joy Taylor is?

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She was, she's a foxholes beautiful. And she said the same.

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No, but she was, she dated young too. So it's been a trend where I'm noticing any Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. So what's up with the young ones? The Y N's okay.

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Like, you know, to be fair. Yeah, the Y N, I got a thing for the yn. Y's got a thing for me. They love it.

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I heard the Y is like in the older. They love it here. Yeah.

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They approach us more. They. You know what it is? I feel like, to be fair, I've tried to date guys like around my age. It seems like they want the younger girls too. So if the guys my age want the girls that are 10, 15 years younger than them, then like I'm gonna have to just match that, you know, energy because then now those are the guys that are available. I mean, it's a good time. It's fun. My husband was 14 years younger than me, so I kind of been on it.

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You've been on that?

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I'm not saying like, it's like I was, I was trolling, obviously.

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Yeah.

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Over 25.

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Yeah.

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It's crazy. I mean, I love it. She said, wait a minute. But I need to be like, I'm trying. Like there's ones that are 21, 22, like 20. They be on it, ready to spin it back, like, you know, but then being that I've like, you know, done this, like dance, clearly. Yeah. I don't, you know, take everybody up on the offer. If I could find a man, not find. If a man my age, you know, we linked, it wouldn't be a problem.

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Oh, you were still open to it. I'm still open to it. That makes sense.

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I'm open for love.

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Yeah.

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You know, in general. But the Y ins, I do be having fun.

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And you know what they do say? And you're, you're this. You prove it to be wrong. They're like, oh, the Yans are not going to take y' all serious. They're not going to marry you. You married a man 14 younger years younger than you. So they can't say that because I do see that a lot of younger men are like, I'm serious, what's up? They do like, we want to be.

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Maybe they also haven't really been hurt. They. Honestly, they don't have the damage. They don't have the. They don't have. They have. A lot of. Them don't even have kids yet. They don't have a lot. Multiple baby mamas, they're actually coming with less baggage than we are, you know?

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Yeah.

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They don't mind doing the stepdaddy thing.

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They got.

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They young, they got energy. They backs work trash out. You feel me? Like, you know, I'm just saying, they got energy, you know, like, they can rip and run. My daughter's five. I had my daughter when I turned, you know, 40, so I'm an older mom, so she got energy. She can play. He got energy. He wanna play. Y' all go play.

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I love it.

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Do you wanna have more kids?

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I mean, you know, I.

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Girl, don't do that. We ain't gonna do that. It's time for you to just be kicking it and traveling the world. We ain't. The kids. They gonna.

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I feel like God blessed me with my one, right? I got to be.

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That's gonna take you around the world right now.

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Okay, okay.

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In the 40s, you got to be going around.

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Yeah. Trying to do it again. Now, that's the issue with the one. Because some of them, they don't, and that'd be a thing. And they want. Would you want to have kids? And it's like. Like, if I had. Not if I had to. If it happened, I'm not going to be, like, at an abortion clinic. No, I'm just not. But is it, like, something that I'm trying to do? Nah, Like, I kind of passed that.

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You did that?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I love my daughter, and I want to pour into her, and I would just. I'm just in stepdaddy season.

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All right. Period. So listen, this is what I'm gonna tell you. Be careful with the young dudes. Right, Right. Because we're in an era now that they're clout chasing. They wanna say, oh, I was with Da, Da, Da.

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I know. Whoopi. Whoop.

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That's the thing.

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Oh, let me. Oh, she. She. Look. Hey, look, she sleep. Y' all look.

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But old men do the same thing, though.

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No, old man, I ain't seen that on. Nah, nah. The older dudes ain't doing the young boys as well.

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Like.

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Yeah, look, look, look. She passed out right here.

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Look, they do be trying to put

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you on FaceTime extra quick.

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You got to be careful.

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Meet my homies.

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Real. And I'M like,

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like, for real.

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You got to look out for that.

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You know what I'm saying?

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But It's a catch 22 because it's like, what do you value? Like, older men do come with baggage or scars or. Like, they can be like, I was married before. I don't know if I ever could be married. I'm fear. In fear of that. Where a younger man don't have all that trauma, they. They like, cool, let's get married.

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I'm a hopeless romantic.

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Baby mamas. Yeah, exactly.

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Romantic. So. Exactly. It'd be like the fantasy. But, you know, to be fair, they don't really be as serious, you know, like, it's that, you know, everything is instant now. So they just want that instant connection, instant hit, instant gone true. You know what I'm saying? So just I have to be like, you know, I'm on. I'm locked into that, and I'm trying to even disrupt, change that pattern, get off that. That vibration, that wavelength. I'm trying to switch my frequency period, and, like, vibe with something steady. For sure.

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I love that. Okay, so you've been getting some hate. Jaden, Alexis recently said you was the biggest catfish in Hollywood. Do you feel like she's just hating on you because obviously her baby daddy wants you?

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That's hating.

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I mean, look, come on, honey, stand it up, honey. Give him a turn. Do a turn. Do a turn.

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Hello.

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Do a turn.

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I'm 15 years old.

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I'm trying to get her to do the 360 on here, and she ain't even the. Go ahead, get a turn.

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No, no, no, no, no. Come on. Body's fire.

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Thank you, Body. That was crazy.

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Thank you, boo. You feel me?

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I don't know. That's why I had to leave with in my cat fishing today. I don't know where the cat is.

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No, you look great. You look great. So she's definitely hating, obviously. You mean her baby daddy wants you, and they still have a weird relationship, clearly, so. And. Cause she's.

[A]

I mean, it was a stray that came out of nowhere. I was like, when did Stewie mix with Drew Ski? Cause I don't know who's cosplaying who at this point. Honestly, like, I just be confused. Cause it's like, who is on. Who's on the screen right now? Who said it was a Stewie? Drew Ski? Jaden, I don't, you know, I don't know who's being who, but it's like, girl, you look like a popsicle sticks with you know what? I'm saying a big ass bubble back there. Like, that's why I'm just like, how dare you come for me? Like, you should really focus on not getting, you know, a dui, going to Chuck E. Cheese. Like, I just. I don't got time.

[C]

How do you deal with, like, the hate? Obviously you've been in the media for a long time, and, like, I get a lot of hate, and I'm nowhere near as famous and as known as you. Right. And it can be hard some days. Like, some days you wake up and you're like, man, I don't want to hear that I'm a Teemu version of this bitch. Like, you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, it's a hard thing. You know what I mean? Like, it's definitely hard. What do you. How do you deal with it? And, like, what would be some advice you would give to other people that have to deal with that? Because I feel like you get a lot of scrutiny.

[A]

I get a lot of hate.

[C]

You do.

[A]

So you know I did in y'. All the club. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure you suck tonight.

[C]

You mess up my parlay. But I feel like for a. For a woman, it's a little more. It's a little more sensitive. Cuz they're coming for your insecurities, your body. Oh, they come for my nose all the time.

[A]

That was like, the whole, like, main thing. Like, I got the most hate trending on my nose. Like, then I. It's like you guys put the evil eye on me and I crashed and in the ATV and broke my nose and had to go get a new nose. And I'm still getting hate. But it's like, so when I didn't Inyala fix my life and like, a lot of the stuff that wasn't on camera when we did that, because I, like, lashed out social media. She told me, like, to, like, she's like, read the comments, digest what it's saying, and move on. And for some reason, just her telling me that, like, that method works for me because I can digest. I can take, like, okay, maybe this, maybe that. Like, I'm fine with criticism. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not gonna let it, like, you know, succumbing. I'm not gonna let it just eat me up to where I'm, like, getting depressed and stuff, because a bunch of people that don't know me want to talk pop, like, catch me in real life. And I've never met anybody in real life to be not say, damn, you look better. Like, oh, my God, I thought that. I thought that. So once you. You get in that and realize that it's literally just trolls who are miserable, probably living in their mama's attic. You know what I'm saying? Borrowing WI Fi from the coffee shop, trying to pop it. It's like, you know what I'm saying? How I'm going let your insecurities affect me. I'm not.

[B]

I will agree with that, because I get a lot of hate on social media, and I be just like, bro, you would never say that to my face.

[C]

They don't.

[B]

You feel me?

[A]

They don't.

[B]

Like, you hide. This generation hide behind a keyboard. And then I pull up your page. You are lame.

[A]

Lame.

[B]

You super lame. You over here with, like, big backs.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Big backs, all that.

[B]

But it's easy. So what my advice to you is, like, listen, if they not hating, then you doing something wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You feel me?

[A]

Cause when they lose something, right, because

[B]

they hating 100%, everybody doing something right got haters, you know, and there's levels to it. And keep doing your thing. People are gonna hate. And don't let it bring you down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm like, I look at it like. And even for social media, even when I was a bad guy in the NBA, I got booed.

[A]

I got booed.

[B]

I was so good. They had to boo me because, like, they was like, damn, he killing.

[A]

Killing it.

[B]

You. You can hate because you're killing it.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? So look at it like that.

[A]

That's. And that's how I. And that's how. And that would be the advice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To the younger girls and stuff. And I tell my girls and Girl Code Inc. Like, that's my brand. Like, you only. You know what I'm saying? Listen, people get more. You get more lit. More clout from the hate. It's never really the positivity. If people just loved you, you know what I'm saying? Like, then they would have nothing to say. When I posted, like, pictures on social media that are, like, aesthetically on point, and the comments are very minimal. Oh, my God. If they could find one little thing in there to. To pop it about, then it's like the whole thread now. I'm viral, and it's not viral because people are like, oh, we love her as viral because look at her. She's this, she's that. She's ugly, she's that. You know what I'M saying her body's her bbl wrong. You know what I'm saying? It's just like y', all, but that's what makes it trend. So then you just learn to appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate that.

[C]

Keep on hating, right?

[A]

He gave me the money.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Period.

[C]

So you have been open. You've got. Obviously, you broke your nose. You've had plast surgery. I know you spoke to. You're really vulnerable, which I really admire online. About. Like, you had.

[A]

You went to Turkey.

[C]

You had this surgery. You missed out, like, with your daughter a little bit because you were recovering. Do you still. Do you still feel like women. Like, I'm someone who wants a nose job and I want this, and I be saying that, and he's like, don't get it. You know? But, like, what do you feel about plastic surgery now that you've done some of it? Do you promote it? Do you feel like, do it if you want to, or. I know some women who are like, I wish I would have never did it feel good. Yeah, I.

[A]

And that's what I think. I think, like, I don't like to police nobody's body. I don't like to police nobody's body count. Pussy. Like, nothing. I don't like to police nothing. And so I think whatever makes you feel better. Like, I. Like I said, I feel like I got the evil eye. This is why I crash. And you guys talked about my nose so bad that I end up crashing, breaking, and having to get the new nose now with the nose job. You know what I'm saying? And then even with, like, the mommy makeover, it was like I was tired. I thought, like, that was going to help me get back to my normal body quicker. And my body rejected all of it. So I was vulnerable when I made those videos. I thought I might die. Like, it was like, that bad. So I was just opening because I wanted to be open to the people. Like, people love to see the results, but they don't understand it's a journey to get there and even maintain it. People swear, like, oh, she just got off another table. No, I didn't. Like, what are you talking about? I got a BBL in 2015. We are in 2026 right now. That's 11 years ago. Okay? That's a fat transfer. If my ass gets. If I gain weight, my ass is going to be huge. Like, you know, when I got pregnant, the fat, it went in my booty. I have to work out to get it back. Right? You know what I'm saying? So they can judge it. But I do feel like whatever makes you feel better, do it. Just don't. Just go to credible doctors.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And go to A list markets, all that Miami surgery stuff. They have a D list level of care. Beverly Hills has a. So if you're going to do it, you have to spend the money. Because the recovery, that's where the girls are dying at. They regret they're dying when they leave the table and have nobody to take care of them. And they're not a proper recovery facility or recovery home because things can go wrong. So I just say, if you're going to do it, just do it responsibly. And now I'm not, like, really doing it because what if something did happen? I have a daughter.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So now I'm just on some, like, I gotta work out. Might take a little glp. One shot real quick. Little weight loss, little tries to. I'm in my 40s. I'll go get my little Botox. I ain't gonna say, you know what I'm saying? Go get my little treatment. Little micro needling and little nad.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I'm just gonna try to stay looking my best.

[C]

Yeah. Like, that's great advice, though, because I honestly didn't even know that it's the recovery that women are dying off of.

[A]

Not dying on that table.

[C]

I didn't know that they're coming out

[A]

of surgery is when they're going home and they have like, they're going to cardiac arrest or they're getting, you know, I got sepsis, like, and no one's there to help you. But I, you know, I had a recovery team, which is why I'm still sitting here. Thank God, you know what I'm saying? Because I did do it and I had a daughter. And now it's like, I just had another offer. Okay, let's give you your boobs back. Because I, you know, I had the. I had to lose the implants and just got. They made boobs from, like, the tissue I had left. Whatever. And I'm like, oh, let's do your implants again. And the doctor didn't want to, like, have the aftercare. And I was like, no, it's not worth it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, because I got to make sure I'm here after, you know, for sure, man.

[B]

We was talking and this is totally off script for me. I'm like, yeah, we was just talking about a girl named Sophia Rain.

[C]

You know, the only fans girl. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And she said she got offered 15 million. I was like, yeah, you taking that? Ain't nobody got offered no 15 million

[A]

from a dude for V card.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like. And I'll be thinking about this because, you know, I was in the league and I done seen a lot. Does every girl have a price? Do you think every girl has a price on them? Like. Cause if a guy can come at a girl who's a virgin and say 15 million, I'm like, damn. What about the girls who ain't virgin? 2000.

[A]

I mean, 500. I mean, you would answer better than, like, I would know, like, are the guys paying for. I don't know, are they paying for the act or are they paying for the discretion afterwards? I think that's what it is.

[C]

That's a bar. That's a bar.

[A]

I feel like it's the. It's the discretion. Like, we're not paying you because you, you know, hit. We paying it to keep the secrets of. Yeah, it's the secret. I feel like. I feel like it's the discretion that's real.

[C]

That's actually a bar.

[B]

$15 million disc. It's like, God damn, you must be who is you who.

[A]

Because what if she wanted to put the content on her of, you know, like, you never know. Like, it's. And. But then she looked. She went and talked about it anyway. Not a n. Like, I'm glad I didn't give you the $15. Cause you done went and told.

[C]

She said it was an NBA player.

[A]

She did say it was an NBA player.

[B]

Oh, my dog.

[A]

I think it was Cap, too. I think it's Cap.

[C]

I think she's making that up.

[B]

First of all, I'll tell you why.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. You don't Only fans.

[B]

There's only. There's like. There's. There's 30 NBA teams, right? And then, like, at the top, the guys is making like 30, 50, 60 million a year. So if I'm gonna offer 15, I gotta be making that. So you talking about 20 guys in the league who got so much to lose to offer 15.

[C]

The thing is, the lore of it is that it's taking her virginity, right?

[B]

I know some names come to mind. I know some names come to mind, but I ain't gonna say it.

[C]

So.

[A]

Did you look at the follower count?

[C]

So the lore of it, though, is like, she's a virgin, supposedly, right? So. But the thing that men don't know is taking a virginity is not fun. If I'm gonna pay, I'm gonna pay for an experienced girl that knows how to throw that ass back because virginity hurts. My virginity was not a great experience. It was like, whack. I didn't know what to do. I'm laying there dead. Like, that's not cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, I rather. If I'm a man, I want the girl who's already doing all of the things and knows how. I don't have to teach her.

[A]

Even just looked at her on social media. Like, for you to be saying that you have your V card. You really popping it. There's no way you're that. Like, she's lying.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sexually fluid. Like, just. You know what to do with it already.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You've been on some dick before. Yeah. And it's okay, you know? But maybe that's like the allure for her. Marketing tool 100.

[C]

Like, little.

[A]

Little virgin girl.

[C]

Have you did only fans before?

[A]

So I'll tell you only about only fans. I didn't. I. When I was married, I did not do only fans. I didn't do only fans. We missed the wave. After I filed my divorce, being petty, I made a page.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And I got on it. Like, I did, like, a couple content things. Like. Like, you know, just suggestive. And I got off because at the end of the day, I. I got accepted in, like, the Snapchat creator program. And to be in there, they only selected a couple hundred to be like, actual. Like, I'm an actual Snapchat. Like, I just went to the Snappies and stuff. You cannot have a. Of.

[C]

Okay, Got you.

[A]

So they. They like my clean, my mom, my mommy, daughter content.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Even though the niggas on there, they like when I'm giving a little spray tan and I'm showing, you know, I keep it, whatever. But it's more of a PG platform. I think it's more appropriate for me, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Of.

[C]

So that makes sense.

[A]

I'm a Snapchat creator, you know? Yeah. Not as fun, but it's. It's good money.

[B]

So have you ever done all these things?

[A]

Yes. Have you done it? Would you do it?

[C]

No, I would never do it. I won't even stand up and give a 360 on this goddamn show.

[A]

I know a guy. Wait, a football player recently. My nose running. See, because they know.

[C]

You need some tissue.

[A]

Yes. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So he gonna say one of his lines before he even linked up with me. Like, he was into me and stuff. He was like. He just out of nowhere said, oh, I can't wait. We make a video on of. I said, wait, what?

[C]

That's wild as hell.

[A]

I said, that's what you do. He was like, I mean, I have done it, you know, I had a mask on and stuff. And I'm like, so, like, you led with like, you can't wait to make it. So like, is that. I was like, is that so that's the thing. I think I hit my girls and was like, just like, he can't wait to make a video with me on of. Like, that's what kind of like, that is like, so like, that's nuts to me. Like, so this is this. What's going on athlete? Are the. The guys going over there? They're hooking up with the of girls. They're making content together. I don't know.

[C]

And are they getting a cut, like. Or is it just for, like the hype of it? I don't know. Like, I have a sex tape, you know, with my man. No, with my man, you know, but like, I would never. Not on the Internet. And like, I know if I ever. I've only done that.

[B]

Czar 16.

[C]

No, I've only done that out there.

[B]

I need. I'm like, oh, okay. So nobody else doing it.

[C]

But this is the thing. I don't judge. Like, I'm a very. Like, I don't judge anyone who's doing get your money. I know girls out there making a million. I'm an Aries. What are you? I Love Taurus. I'm April 3rd.

[A]

I'm April 25th.

[C]

I love, love Taurus. Like, that's my. I get along with Taurus. Well, I don't judge nobody. Like, do your big one. Do what you need to do. They said I have to stop saying do my big one because I'm too old. So whatever. But do your thing. Get cracking. But for me, it's just not me, you know what I mean? Like, I'm private. I'm a very private person and I like to keep my sex sacred, you know? But if you do it and you making a bag, get your money, sis.

[A]

I'm not judging.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not judging you. Get your money, girl.

[A]

Yeah, for me, I was just like, I don't know. I'm one of the ones. Like, I graduated college, I got a degree, AKA as a publicist in this. You know what I'm saying? I have, you know, I'm like, I got mommy of the year award. I just felt for me, like, I tried to be like, you know, petty, like, okay, I'm gonna do this now because I'm not whatever. But in the long run of things, I just. For me, I feel like there's so many other things I could do to make money than just to have to be popping on of, you know?

[C]

And you already have a name for yourself, so, you know, like, oh, you could kill it.

[A]

I get offers all the time to go, like, and really popping on of. And I'm just like, I'd rather be back on a network TV show. Like, there's so many other things that I could be doing that I'm good at than just selling sets.

[C]

Yeah. So speaking of that, right, we have a viral clip where Paul was asking me if I would go to Dubai and get on for X amount of money, right? And everyone's like, she don't do it. Because he kept bringing the price, like, 1 million, 5 million, 10 million. I'm like, oh, would you do it for any price? Like, name. Is there a price? Okay, name some numbers. Name Some numbers. 1,000,000. Go out there, get shitted on. That's it. Go home.

[A]

Million dollars.

[C]

Yeah. Cash. Not. It's cash.

[A]

You better have a baby wipe when you done?

[B]

10 minutes.

[A]

10 minutes.

[B]

He like, ah, ah. 10 minutes.

[A]

And I'm wearing a face mask like, it's Covid. But yeah, like, I'm wearing a face mask and maybe some baby wipes. I'm crying and I'm coming back million. I'm getting me a nigga. And I mean, you know what I'm saying? And that's so terrible, right?

[C]

Are you going back for a second time for the tooth?

[B]

Hell yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If you was my girl, I'd be like, girl, you better get out there.

[A]

You feel me?

[B]

Like, get your ass out there.

[A]

That's what we gonna take you. Listen, I'm a mother. I've been wiping ass for the last five years. Even right now. My daughter. Mommy, I can't wipe my. Listen, it's not fazing me as much as it probably. Do you have kids yet?

[C]

No.

[A]

No, you don't have kids yet. Once you have kids, at that point, like, I feel like I'm doing it for free. Between my. My Pomeranian and my child, I'm already cleaning up. So you like, eff it.

[B]

Look, I'm be like, hey, here, look here, baby. You know it's gonna only take 10 minutes.

[A]

You telling her, you telling her to go?

[C]

Yeah, you go, go, go get it.

[B]

I'm gonna pay for the flight. I'm gonna get your hotel, period. The flight.

[C]

Like, you gonna come? What you mean? Yeah, you going. You coming?

[A]

I'm not cuz now you. If you want me in a come to Dubai.

[B]

I don't want to be in the.

[A]

We want 2 million.

[C]

Right, right.

[A]

Put it on my back.

[B]

Come back, I'm going be like, high five. We got that?

[C]

Got that. Exactly.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Get a ring. I'm crying. Okay. So something I didn't know that I just found out when I was researching you. Is that you to you're go with Cat Williams? Used to date Cat. I love Cat Williams. First of all, I'm a real. I'm a fan of his. I had no idea.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[C]

Yeah, oh, damn. But you've been through a lot with him because you were with him when he had the raids going on all of these investigations. You had to go and get subpoenaed to court, right? And be on trial. Like, I know that's traumatizing. Gun in your face, right? And never told, period.

[A]

Y' all saw when, like they came and did house and did the rave. Yeah, yeah, I went through that. Literally that. The guns at the chest, hands up, throw on the floor.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Like, it was a. It was. It was wild to say the least. Like, an FBI raid is like, not something that I would hope anybody has to go through. It's like, not cool. It literally looks like it. It's in the movie. I thought I was like, dream, like, how is this really happening? You know, the subpoena in the courts and. And. And then there you go. For the reason of a split. You know what I'm saying? Because I was like, I don't want this to keep being my future. And he's a genius, though. You know, I still stand behind that. You know, I feel like, oh, he did his like any did, but he took care of me. He actually, like during season one when everybody was. I never talked about this. When everybody was like, dragging me from my looks, you know, Season one, love and hip hop. He literally had somebody come like, fine, like, I've got to meet her. And then he was like, when. When I met. He like, never let me go. He's like, what do you want to change? He's like, you want your ass? You want this? He's like, when you go back on season two, you about to. On all these pulled up Panamera, New House in the Hills.

[C]

Like, oh, wow.

[A]

He leveled it up because he didn't like the way people were playing with me on tv. And so for those things, I always have and give him respect when I speak on his name.

[C]

You know, that's a real one for That I. I really do like Cat Williams a lot. Did you see him on the recent Kevin Hart Rose?

[A]

Yeah. He's serious. Yeah, I made all those videos of him. Plastic Cup Boys, like Spoonware, the Big Tigger. When he went to. I was with him through all that. Like, I made the videos of giving him the Q at World stuff. Like yo posters right now, Cat. Yeah. Like, you know, we were. It was like a thing. And he knew me, like, because when I. I took the Boondocks with Aaron Magruder from a comic strip to a TV show, the cat paid a pimp named Slick back, you know what I'm saying? So he was always, like, in the mix back then. Like I always say, people always talk about from like 2014 in My Love and hip hop era. But there was a whole 2006. Like I said, him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Party from my bachelor party. I threw Paul's bachelor party. It was bachelor party to his first wife. It was like, circa. What year was it? Had to be like 2006. 7ish.

[B]

8.

[A]

What year was it?

[B]

I never told her I had a bachelor party. What you talking about? She didn't know about the.

[A]

It was at the W. You. You remember the bachelor party knew about this? Oh, okay. Oh, damn. Well, you're divorced now, right?

[C]

So it don't even matter.

[B]

Sound good now you divorced already?

[A]

Yeah, I had it.

[B]

It was at the W. It was lit.

[A]

He had strippers. He had. She's crazy.

[C]

I love it. Damn. He had. So you had a whole era of life before even loving hip hop. Yeah.

[A]

And so we had connected and that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Back in my PR time.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So then when I got on tv, real. Did you know with me, like, you know what I'm saying? They. They did. So when people were playing with me, you know what I'm saying? He wanted to make sure when we. When I came back, people couldn't say. Couldn't play with me, period. And for that, when I got on that stand, I never told.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

That's what real loyalty looks like. Whether you're with the person or not with them, you still can be loyal. Loyal for sure.

[C]

That's real. I think that's really dope. And honestly, again, I love Katt Williams. When he was on Shannon Sharpe saying all that shit and people were like, he's lying. You believe him?

[B]

Nah, I believe him. I don't give a damn.

[C]

I believe him.

[A]

He actually, like, verified some of the stuff I said on Tasha K about what did he. Oh, about the migos needing the 200,000 for him and me. Him offset reaching to me. I got Kat to bail them out. Like, he. He verified a lot of the stuff I'm saying because it's true. I don't know what else to say. It's true, period. You know, he. He co. Signed it for sure. So.

[C]

Okay, this is crazy. So

[A]

what else can we. Okay, no, look, we talk about fan. We talk about FBI.

[C]

First of all, I'd have been an fdr.

[B]

I will say this. You need to come out with a. A documentary.

[C]

Everybody wants a documentary on me.

[A]

Listen, let me tell you some stories. I have a red laptop, right? It's Aaron McGruder, creator of the Boondocks, and it's at my house. My glam team is over here. Y' all see where the red laptop is, right? They see it all like, what's this, Hazel? That red laptop has, like, a lot of Hollywood history from, like, 2003 to about, like, 2011. That if I, like, crack that laptop open as a publicist, the type of files and things that are in there, I probably could make a pretty penny in some sort of fashion on probably these stories and receipts that's in that. Gotta understand, I was a crisis communications publicist. Damn. If Tang getting pulled over and arrested in New Orleans and he need Barry Hankerson hitting me up in the middle of the night, we need to do a press release. We gotta turn this around so he could do you know what I'm saying? Because, like, back then, it wasn't like, Instagram, Insta famous or whatever. I'm getting lit. I'm knocking shit over my eyes. I'm a woman a certain age. I be getting my little. I love her.

[C]

She's in her

[A]

family.

[C]

Wait, but you know what? I love that you're talking about this, because I feel like a lot of people don't know that you have that history of being in PR and working with these people. Like, love and hip hop did not make you you. And, like, you had those connections and you have those relationships. And I think it's good that you're shedding light on that, because people need to know that side of you, you know, and that's really important.

[A]

I'm a businesswoman first, you know? That's a businesswoman first. I mean, I brought love and hip hop to Hollywood, period. I put it together. I took it to the network. They link with Mona. I turned in the names. Tierra Berg, Masika Soulja. You feel me? We put it there 2014 to. It was a 2013 September. We were in production by February 2014.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Come on.

[A]

People don't get that. Like, it was like, my whole thing, but I got that because of the history. I was already as a. As a public business period.

[C]

Talk yo shit. Put respect on her name. So what is your relationship with Masika now? Are y' all cool? Because I know you have major beef.

[A]

I just don't even see, you know, to be honest, those girls, like, I don't really even see them no more, period. Like, they're really not at the places I'm at. And the places I'm at, everybody watches and sees, so I just don't really, you know, say them or hear of them. And unless they want to beef with me, then they get like, you know, their little mentions or something. But you know her, like, you know, I don't. Baby daddy's in jail. He got out of jail. The baby daddy dead. I don't know. Like, she got a lot going on over there.

[C]

Yeah. One who put her on to love and hip hop as your character, as your friend. Right.

[A]

Like, the world saw that and then seen her, like, actually betray me. People want to ask, was it script? It's not scripted. Yeah. I went through all those moments with y', all, like. And imagine, like, I'm not even even with the berg stuff, cuz he's been doing a lot of interviews, touching on me lately, touching on this. People act like I knew what he was saying in the green screen when the world was watching it. I'm watching it too, saying, oh, she knows. She was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Like, you're Thursday's girl. We're not there. I don't know what the he's saying in the green screen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then they call in, like, you know, whatever. So I kind of got played in front of the world, and they. They were my friends, and I did put them on and stuff. And I mean, yeah, now, like, it turned me to a savage because I realized, like, damn, people really fake. Like, there's no loyalty in this. Like, what am I being loyal for? They're just playing in my face, you know? So I had to toughen up, man.

[B]

For real. I mean, we. In this era where it's like cloud chasing, everybody want to make a name, step on somebody else to make a name for they self, which is like. And that's why I was like, man, these cats is lame. Lame, super lames. And I just went on our last podcast talking about some of these cats that's in the streaming world that's in the.

[C]

And you've been streaming recently too. I've seen you on the stream.

[B]

It's certain levels to it. You know what I'm saying? So like when I be out at. I'll be going out, but I be at a restaurant and these cats be DMing me coming to. I'm like, bro, if you didn't have all these ads and all this, you go in the club and have a section. Ain't nobody coming over there, bro. Like ain't nobody. Ain't nobody walking. You ain't.

[A]

I say that, I say this. I say people got to get real celebrities in this streaming insta fluencer separated because you're not gonna put.

[C]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

I'm sorry. Like you put one of these of girls or the put them on a red carpet with me. It's. It's not like your actual star, your basketball history. I'm actual TV star. You can go on OWN Network, WE tv, VH1. You're not just gonna go on Zeus or only fans and find me. So when you throw these people over with us, it's like y' all gotta know when to like step. It's levels to this shit.

[B]

It's levels to this.

[A]

I agree with levels.

[B]

I don't care how many ads or how many followers you got.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

You'll never be at. At this level, bro. You over here just in front of the camera looking and everybody following you. You doing some garbage on tape. Like, dog, don't. Don't come near me.

[A]

Disrespecting women. It seems like that's a lot of this. It seems like a lot of the streamers thing is to like disrespect.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, disrespecting women. I don't like that though.

[C]

Yeah, but.

[A]

But to be fair, right, because we just say, yeah, you've been going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So what I've observed like at these streamer functions because I. I want to do. I do have a page. I am. It's Hazely Baby on Twitch. I'm trying to do my stuff more episodic. I would love to do like more episodic. Like a real life version of love and hip hop. That would be like what I'm trying to do on my stream. But I've been going to these streamer parties and I will say the women in there that are getting disrespected, they doing too much.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, they are. Okay.

[A]

It's like they're damn near you. You know that these will crash out yeah. And you will get clipped, but you're doing things that you're literally playing yourself. I don't feel like I've looked crazy on any of the streams because I've come in and know my place and know my role and I engage and I don't like, trigger or do too much to where I'm allow them to disrespect. But the disrespect do be loud with the women. But to be fair, these girls be doing too much. Embarrassing almost.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Have some couth. You can go on the stream. You can go and throw ass on the stream all day. Nigga ain't tripping. Yeah. When you get to tripping and breath stinking and just bbl batting.

[C]

And I saw. So I saw one of the guys, which I didn't like, he was like, oh, she's 65 years old looking or whatever. Then you came on there and checked them and then the whole energy switched and they were like, oh, what's up with you? Da da da da da da da. I saw that. And I do feel like they sometimes just. Them younger dudes just be talking out they ass a little bit.

[B]

How.

[A]

Then they get eating on my hand like a puppy.

[C]

I saw that. I was telling him about that. Yeah. Then it was all switched up after when you came on there because they don't want to say that shit to your face. They change. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, he tired.

[C]

Yeah, he's tired of her.

[B]

Like, like, come on, man, stand on it.

[A]

Yeah, but you're not.

[C]

You're not gonna stand on it. And that's the weird thing that I

[A]

come from the era of standing on it.

[B]

Stand on business.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But there is a difference and I want to acknowledge it. Like, you've been in the media. You're, you know, we're on a TV show. You're a celebrity. He's a major celebrity. Like, I know I'm not that I'm on the camera. I'm this. You're building now and I'm building. But, like, I know the difference. Like, I am not a celebrity. I always tell him this. Like, I'm not. Like, I'm just here talking, doing a podcast. Like, but there is a big difference. And I feel like people don't want to acknowledge that. And like, the influencers are like, I'm famous because you have this many followers. But you didn't do the. You don't have the career. You don't have the accolades, compliments, the wick. Yeah. The stats. Yeah. It's different.

[A]

The resume.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think people. I tell people all the time I have an INDB. You know what I'm saying? It's different. There's IMDb, there's credits. Yeah. Feel me there. Don't put me even with. And this is like, no, God, this is the. That I be doing. Y' all don't even put me in a baby mama category. Yeah. Because these who have babies by famous. They're not even famous to me either. Yeah, I don't give a. You know, I don't care. Like, the baby mama culture. I hate when they're like, such and such. Such gonna be here. And I'm like, stop grouping me with women who are just having baby with niggas that are famous. They're not celebrities to me. Stop putting me in. Like, let me see. Who would I throw under the bus? Cause

[B]

don't say it. Don't say it. We all know I got one in my. Right.

[C]

Yeah, we all got some. I got one for sure.

[A]

Everybody got one. Everybody got one baby mama in here that think they popping because they was taking. You know what I'm saying? And for me, which is why I'm glad to be here and I'm honored and I love the way you approached me. I got respect for him. We have history. Stop doing that. Not me. I made this shit. And before this, I was making people famous, period. I was a person. They paid to get people popping. So don't put me. Well, such and such. We gonna be on the carpet here. I don't give a fuck. And that bitch is not gonna be able to stand next to me on this carpet. What are they gonna ask her?

[C]

But you're not a baby. Like, I don't ever group you with that because first of all, you put your ex husband on. So you're not a baby mama of a. Like, when we think about you, I don't think about, like, oh, she's Wooty Woo's baby mama. I don't think about that. I think about Hazel E. She's had a career. She's went on tv. She has a. Like, your name, you know, speaks volume for. Since these baby mamas are. I agree with you. I hate that we live in the culture of you're this baby mama. Like, how is that a flex that you're a baby mama?

[A]

I like it. I hate it.

[C]

I hate it so much. I'm glad you said this. This is going to be a clip.

[A]

That's why I was like, I know this is bad. That's why I had to leave with, like, no.

[C]

You didn't say nobody's name, though. I didn't say.

[A]

And I want to.

[B]

No.

[C]

I got a story.

[B]

No, I got a story. I got a story of a baby mama.

[A]

I'm not gonna say no name.

[B]

I was in Vegas one time, right? So I had a section. Boom. Dre's after hours. We. Boom. We got the section. I go up there to my section, my table. Boom. Right there. She's sitting in a dead ass center in the middle. Like, don't sit in the middle. I got the whole section.

[A]

She in the middle.

[B]

She got there. She was with her girls. And so I get up there, and I'm like, oh, let me. Can you get up a little? You know, this is my section. Like, what? I was like, yeah, you gotta get up. I ain't gotta go nowhere.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I was like, what?

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

Like, I'm telling her. I'm like, who is this? Oh, that's. What's her name? Baby mama. So I don't give a damn. Hey, security. Get her out of here right now. I don't care, man. Get out my seat, period.

[C]

Open it up.

[B]

And luckily, the only reason she stayed. Cause she was with the homie. So she another famous dude. Baby mama, my famous homie came over, was messing with her, and I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense now. But you still gotta move right from here. I'm gonna sit right here.

[A]

It's so much entitlement, dog.

[B]

You are like, are you serious right now?

[C]

It is not the flex y' all think it is to be somebody's baby.

[A]

It bothers me because it happened to me. Like, not happened to me, but, like, the social media wars just happened. And they're like, oh, well, she has to beat the carpet this time because such is going to be there. I'm like, that's a baby mama. Like, yeah, don't give me. Like, don't. And I literally had to check the PR team and everything. Like, period. Stop doing it. Like, do not put me. Tell me when you know what I'm saying. Let me know when the housewives of Beverly Hills are gonna walk the carpet, period. Like, don't give me. I gotta do. Because such and such baby mama finna walk the carpet. I respectfully. I don't give a rat's ass. Like, I'm not. Like, stop doing that. I've worked very hard for my name. I got it out the mud. You know what I'm saying? I went to school. I got my degrees. I'm literally an Alpha Kappa Alpha. Just Like Kamala Harris. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I really, like, work for my stuff. Don't give me cause such and such baby.

[C]

Bitch, I got a baby too.

[A]

We all got babies. We like. That don't mean that. That gives you like this.

[C]

Yeah. You worked for your career. You lay down. There's a difference. It's not hard to be a man's baby mama. That is not the flex you think it is. It don't. It's not.

[B]

But they think they bigger than real ass stars.

[C]

That's what I said.

[B]

Like, you're nobody. Like, get the fuck out of here.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Like, oh, this your section. Oh, they gonna let you. You like. Nah, nah, we ain't letting.

[A]

Imagine you're trying to go to the esp. Why don't you go in the esp and they tell you.

[B]

Oh, this is.

[A]

They tell you walk the red clavicular. A streamer. You gotta wait, cuz you.

[B]

No, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. This is y' all valuing over here now. That's gonna run out.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You know what? Wear off, cuz it's gonna be a new one. That's gonna run out. You know what? Go ahead.

[C]

That happened to, like, you're a legend.

[A]

It's like, legend.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

And that's the energy that I've literally. Literally, even when I've been going into these streams, they seen it. When I just went to the stream you're talking about. And I was like, listen, what I. What I told them because they were like, oh, all the girls gotta sign in, you know. Yeah, take your photo. They want your driver's license and you have to sign an NDA. I said to them, I said, first of all, I'm about to be out. I said, but now these gotta sign an NDA to film with me, period. I said, I said, who are like no shade. And Dean came out and was like, she good.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I like, I respect him for that. Cause he was like, no, y', all. It's like. It's Hazel E. Like, she.

[C]

Exactly. Yeah.

[A]

What if I make all these indie sign NDAs and take their photos to film with me? Last I checked, I'm the one that's on demand, period.

[C]

Speaking talk your. No, for real. I love that. And I really feel like that's real. There has to be a separation. We went to the.

[A]

No, I'm on that time. I'm on that time with you.

[C]

Right there.

[A]

Some crazy going on out here with

[C]

this new little, like, I Don't give

[A]

a how many followers. I'm on that.

[C]

Yeah, y' all generation needs more respect. And also, too. We went to the BET Awards last year, right? And like, they sat us weird back. I'm like, do you know who the this is? Then we grateful that he's even here. He's so humble and cool. And I'm like, no. So we go to the front. They give us some other seats. Like, oh, sorry, Paul. Da da da, da da da. And so then some random streamers were like, this is my seat. And they try to move us out that seat for them. And I was like, do you not know that this is Paul Pierce, baby? Y'. All.

[A]

You was ready to turn it up.

[C]

I was ready to turn it up. Cause I wasn't you. Because I'm not the celebrity, baby. They don't care. I'mma turn it up every time. Like, I'm going to be the one.

[B]

I ain't even seen him on nothing. He can't even get in this year. I'mma be back in there this year. Right there in the front row. He ain't gonna be able to get in. Cause his 15 is up.

[C]

And he's humble about it. Because he's, you know, whatever. I don't have to be, honey. Cause I'm not y', all. You know, so look at the young Vice Venus.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm like, that's why I be fucking

[A]

with the Y N. I'm ready to turn it up.

[C]

Cause we gonna turn it up for y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

We gonna turn it up for the ghost. You know we gonna turn it. But that is the BS that they're on. I literally, when I say I don't give it and I pop it at every. At every moment, as you say, like, unless it. Unless it is like, so not somebody that I respect, but, like, yeah, somebody that I'm like, okay, I. I'll chill right now. Because you know what I'm saying? Because I do respect. But don't get to getting me no little. Only fans. No little baby mama.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Girlfriend or girlfriend a that part. Like, I don't.

[C]

And you know what else is a lost art? Like, I'm like 10 years younger, right? And I feel like the younger women, like Hazel E. For instance, right? But I feel like the. The. They don't respect people who have 10 years of wisdom. 10 years. Like, the younger girls don't do that. Like, I have older sisters that are 50 years old. And like, I was raised to have respect.

[A]

You respected me the moment you hit me to come. You've literally given me my flowers in every conversation. Thank you. That's why I was like, I'm gonna make it happen for her. And then when it came with your approach, you did your research, you did your history. Like, that's how you need to be. You know what I'm saying? And that's why you're gonna succeed, because you don't mind honoring people. That for sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How can you not respect Paul Pierce? Like, I'm a basketball head. Like, I grew. Like, you know, when. Even when I did his event, I was like, oh, my God, I'm about to do this.

[C]

I've got to show out.

[A]

I cannot let this get down. You know, we worked for. Before social media.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Before we could just post a pic and go viral, we had to get it in the mud, like, to. To be on how I got on. We didn't have Instagram yet.

[C]

Exactly. Y' all had it way harder. And the younger generation had to get on cv. Yeah.

[A]

We had to get tmz. We had to get publication. You had to go get Hip Hop Weekly final going on. You had to go log in and media takeout to see whatever they. They were saying is different now. So we do appreciate the ones give it up to the OGs. And when I say I'm an OG, I really stand on that. I mean it.

[C]

For sure you are. And I think that as young woman and y' all out there, like, you have to respect the people who paved the way, and they had it much harder than us. We could just go make a video. We're viral. They could not do that. So I have mad respect for you. I admire your journey and the things you've done and everything you've done to become the woman you became. Because it was harder.

[A]

It was.

[C]

And we have to acknowledge that, period.

[A]

Even Paul, right. These new guys that can make tape, they can make whatever, YouTube, see them, whatever. You guys had to really make a voice for yourself in the town, in the city, period. Like, you had to make highlights. It wasn't just like, oh, they look good and wear their nail polish. And now they got deals. You had to. Really?

[C]

Now you wear your nail polish.

[A]

I am done.

[B]

And you know what?

[C]

We saying all this wear your nail polish is hilarious because I feel that. And you're bedazzled.

[B]

No, but look, we saying all this, and this is not the hate on the news channel. Yeah, it's not hate because y' all doing it. How y' all doing It.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And this is what the society is. And y' all get me. We cool with that.

[A]

We love it.

[B]

But at the same time, hold some respect for the OGs, period. Hold some goddamn respect. Like, hold up. Like, chill, bro. You ain't bigger than what we paved the way for you to even be in this. Like, now it's easier for you to be famous. Where we had to really boots and nails and be at everywhere. And where. Where you could just be at the house.

[A]

You had to get on Getty Image.

[C]

You have to go and check.

[B]

That's all we saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Freddie, Owen and all that said do it all.

[B]

You do it and it's all good. It's all love, but don't disrespect it and understand that the game is real. Like, it's real boots on the ground type of game to where, like, you ain't gotta walk into 10 meetings. You ain't gotta talk to people face to face. Like, we really have you on Zoom, this and that.

[A]

We don't have no Zoom. We don't have no Zoom to go and, like, meet people on. On Zoom. Yeah, we had to actually go to the meetings. You gotta go perform for me at the labels. I had to go into the network station and actually show why I'm valuable to put on this TV show. It wasn't just a be cute and get a deal and go viral and now you got campaigns and stuff. It wasn't. And when they come for us, it's like, like, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I can't even. Back to the Jaden thing. Like, you literally laid on your back, had two babies for. He plays in your face all day. That's what you're known for. How dare you come for me, period.

[C]

It's like, that's how I felt. Yeah.

[A]

You know, and it just. And reason why I didn't really go big on responding is because I ate her ass up. You know what I'm saying? I didn't really have to like, nah, nah, come on now. Like, you know, like, not. You know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And if I really want to come. Yeah, it's. You know what I'm saying? You see the track record, period.

[C]

And to set the record created viral.

[A]

Let's just go there.

[C]

Y' all didn't even know what viral

[A]

was till Hazel E. You feel me? Period.

[C]

Clock it talks.

[A]

We started the Shade Room. Shade room had 10,000 followers when they started posting me. Me and Kat, us loving hip hop girls. Y' all aspire to Be us. Have your respect. Okay. We're still here living alive and well. And I probably still look better than you.

[B]

Talk.

[C]

Your K so talking. And just to set the record straight, she looks the same as she looks online in person, y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

So all that, like, hating to me. I'm tired of it. And people are so disrespectful online.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

I have a question before we wrap up. What is your thought on, like, baddies in the Zeus network and all of this? I just want to know, because you guys kind of paved the way for the baddies thing, the love and hip hop, girl. So I'm just curious to know. And they're way more raunchy. I think you guys had, like, class a little bit and, like, yeah, aesthetic and was fly and was popping. They. These are more like. I don't know how to say, yeah, yeah, girl, you want to get down. Y' all had y' all fights, but y' all were just more like pretty girls. Like, it was a storyline.

[A]

I mean, and that's why even they said, well, we got such and such from baddies coming. Who? It's so many baddies, child. Like, I don't even know. Like,

[C]

I don't know no baddies. I don't know any of them.

[A]

I watched clip songs line. I mean, it looked like they knucking, if you butt. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't trying to go be a part of Baddies. Like, it's just not on my life. My vibration is, like, you know, different, but it definitely is, like, a different aesthetic. And if I were to do something like, you know, I did Zeus, the conversation with Masika, like, we gave them, like, their first fight, like, ever, you know, which is why I feel like. Let me. They went into this, like, direction. If I were to, like, to come back on something like that, that I would prefer to bring back, like, a charm school. Let's get these girls in. We can still get all the girls from walks of life, but let's have them walk out this experience better than they came in. And that's all that I, you know, want. You know what I'm saying? Like, who wants to stay in that mindset? It's a toxic mindset to feel like you have to. Even in love and hip hop, when we had to go film tough scenes, like, it's. It's a lot mentally. Like, okay, I might go in here. I might get my wig snatched today. I might come out with a black guy. I gotta go in here and turn this up. Get my 15 minutes. Like, I feel bad for them girls.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, because they know as soon as they stop doing that, their 15 minutes is up.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's a very. It's a. It's a crazy situation. They're doing anything just to keep that little moment going. And it's sad, you know?

[C]

And they're not making the name that y' all made because I can't name baddies. I can name the love and hip hop girls, but I don't really know. Not one baddie. Maybe it's just not my generation or whatever. It's younger, but I don't know none of them. Like, I know Natalie Nunn is the one who, like, runs it, but outside of that, I don't.

[A]

And that's still because she came from Bad Girls Club.

[C]

Yeah, she did.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? She came from Bad Girls Club, so she had. She had the network. She had the experience to take it over here. But I just hate the program. I'm not gonna lie. Like. And they can be mad at me and they could hate me, but they be fans when they see me. I don't care. I just wish there was something like they could better themselves out after the experience, that's all.

[C]

You should start that. It's the charm school you should really do.

[A]

It's hard, though. People really don't. I don't know if they want women to come out better than they. They started. I don't know if that's. I feel like it's still entertaining, though. It is like, the show. Like, I'm pitching it so somebody. It's like, I could teach you finesse. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

That's good.

[A]

I can teach you finesse. Like, we could bring you in here. You want a poppy. You want to be this girl. You want to be. That can get you in. We can clean you up, teach you how to eat that food. Da, da, da, da. Like a little challenge, you know what I'm saying? And let these girls come out better than they came into this. Not to say the stuff that's going to happen there is going to be wild. It probably will.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But we want women to come out better than they came in.

[C]

And that's a great idea.

[A]

Like, you know, teach these girls.

[C]

We need more of that.

[A]

That's it, girls.

[B]

How to hold some chopsticks.

[A]

Yeah, cuz, what if you out and

[B]

you trying to pick up your fork,

[A]

eat your sushi, roll

[B]

chopsticks with both hands.

[A]

You ain't you ain't going to be. You ain't been nowhere. And, you know, and I've been. Have you ever been. You must have been somebody with a bitch couldn't eat with a chopstick.

[B]

You know how to hold the chopstick. But it's like, all right, I've been

[A]

with a Y N before. That's like gonna literally go to town and pick up the sushi with a fork.

[C]

No, no. And it's just like, I haven't seen that yet.

[B]

Oh, I seen it.

[A]

It's in it.

[C]

It's crazy.

[B]

Out of two sticks.

[C]

That is wild.

[B]

That's crazy, right?

[C]

That would be such a good show, though.

[B]

That would be a joke.

[C]

So if anyone is watching this on the network, that would be such a dope show. Because guess what? You can still get women that are rough around the edges, but still be doing the little ghetto shit they wanna see on TV and the drama. But then we're actually teaching these women. And you can bring different type of therapists. This person, that person in. Nah, you gotta. That's dope.

[A]

Hazel.

[B]

You're gonna. That's gonna lead into. That's gonna be the next show. After they go from there to her to learn how to do time. We gonna introduce the next show on how to date a baller.

[C]

The dating show. Cause we were doing a dating show.

[A]

It sound like we got production studios here.

[B]

Hey, she going to teach them and

[C]

we going to take them on the dating show after that.

[A]

We.

[C]

We got to do that. That's what I'm saying. That's cracking.

[B]

That'll be lit.

[A]

We can give entertainment. It's all entertainment, right? That just, you know, I just feel like I would. We, you know, we want. We want everybody to do better. Like, even when I leave y' all from this experience, I don't want y' all to have a takeaway of like, ugh, she's this and that. Rather, y' all have a positive takeaway. Yeah, she would fuck her, not fuck her.

[B]

Aw, come on, girl. Come on.

[A]

With her is the tequila. You know, we mess with her.

[C]

No, we do, though. You're like a good energy.

[B]

This is dope.

[C]

This is dope. And I feel like people need to see more of this side of you, too, because I feel like it's all the messy shit and this and that, but it's like, you're educated, you're well spoken, you have a great career behind you and ahead of you, and I just. I really respect you and I really appreciate you for coming on. For real.

[A]

No, I Do. I mean, we've been. Like I said, it's been a minute. Trying to line it up. So.

[C]

So thank you.

[A]

I appreciate it. And I remember there was one more question in there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it the rides? The scientist?

[C]

Yes. I wanted to ask you about that.

[A]

She said, girl, because I had something to say.

[C]

I'll preface it. So Mariah the scientist, I guess Young Thug posted. I mean, I saw that it was Young Thug and the photographer collaboration. Posted a post of him, like walking or something. Right? You put fire sign. So my. My reaction was, okay, that's her photographer. Fire. Dope picture. Mariah replied basically and was like, fire what? She said she was like, fire what?

[A]

Like, it was so fun.

[C]

What's so fire? Like, because that's her fiance and it. And so, yeah, you go ahead and say what you need to say.

[A]

Yeah. And it was on the photographer's page.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Right. That had shot me the same night.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So it's like you trolling, looking for your man, which is fine.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I mean, yo, like, you know what I'm saying?

[C]

You might.

[A]

I. I've looked at a hashtag before. Like, what this was out doing last night. I'm gonna see the hashtag. Who you feel me? Like, so I understood that. But it was like, girl, you reaching. You know what I'm saying? And then it just showed, like, your insecurities. Like, you guys, like, you. You don't have to. Like, it's not like I was on his page. Yeah, that was the thing. I could see if I was on his page, like, doing too much and shooting my shot. But, girl, after the jail calls, the get out of jail free card, it's a lot going on. I fuck with real niggas. Let's go back to Kat. Like, I don't. I don't tattletales sitting up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nails cracking their toes, you know, talking about gossiping. So, baby, you the only one that's worried about that man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was not even worried about him. But now you're making me address you and you're looking weak as because you're over here trying to check a girl who wasn't even checking for him. We, like, I told her, I promise, baby, no one is checking.

[C]

You said that.

[A]

You said that. And get ready for your lavender wedding. You know who's wearing the dress. You have bigger fish to fry, right?

[B]

That's real.

[C]

That is. You know what a lavender wedding is? He doesn't know what that is.

[B]

A lavender wedding with lavender flowers.

[C]

No, a lavender wedding is when a gay man and a straight woman marry each other for.

[B]

I need another drink.

[A]

I'll take one too. Yeah. I'll put my glass upstairs.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You feel me?

[A]

Because I don't know what else to tell you.

[B]

Do.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's wearing a dress? Oh, that's it. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, I just didn't appreciate it. And people always want to go to me. Would I respond?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But in each situation. You've even said today, it's about my response to what somebody else has provoked me to say. My crash out just gonna be bigger. That's all.

[C]

But I mean, again, that goes into the young girls, respecting people and understanding. Like, yo, you doing a little too much. Like, it wasn't that serious. She's on the photographer page. She works with this photographer. And that's how I interpreted it. I'm like, that's probably a dope shot for him.

[A]

He's a young dude coming up in Miami. He's trying to shoot celebrities coming out with this aesthetic, with this like, walking slow mo thing. Like, that's his aesthetic. He's out there. Like, he's hustling, period. So I was like, that's fire. You got Thug coming out, period. That's a good look, like, you know what I'm saying? Because he approached me and he got me coming out and I even posted the work. Cause it was fire, you know what I'm saying? That was it. You over here thinking, I'm trying to check for this young.

[C]

Like, we not checking for that.

[A]

I was there. It said Lil Baby was performing. It say nothing about Young Thug in a reunion. So Clockwalk, what I was really trying to go see had nothing to do with Thug. And you made it about a Thug thing. And I was just over it, like.

[C]

And she's such a beautiful girl. And I think that it's just like she dealt with a lot with him. Yeah. And I feel like you got to get them insecurities in check. Like, for real. Okay, so two little things that I didn't ask you about. So your ex husband, you talked about this girl. Because we were watching them crime shows. So I gotta. I gotta bring this up. I'm sorry. You said that he switched the water bottle with bleach and ammonia.

[A]

Yeah. It was like he.

[C]

That's wild to me.

[A]

Yeah. I like, I remember, like, it was yesterday. We were in Vegas, like in the back patio. And it was one of those days. It was so hot, right? And I was Waiting on my Amazon grocery delivery. Okay, this is, like, still, like, covet kind of area, right? And so I had, like, a water bottle, and I went inside and I grabbed a water bottle, had a sit, went back outside with the kids. He, for some reason, comes in and he says he makes a concoction in that water bottle. Mind you, I'm waiting on more water and stuff to come because it's Vegas. It's hot. And he pours bleach in that water bottle to make a concoction to kill bugs. At no point did he say, rip the label off or anything and say, like, hey, this water bottle has bleach. Whatever. We're smoking weed. It's hot. I come back in the house, the water bottle, that's like this cup right

[B]

there, just sitting right there.

[A]

So imagine if I just said I needed another drink, and then somebody comes and pours bleach in this cup.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

And then I just grab the cup and, oh, I'm convulsing. Like, your body, like, does this, like, metamorph? Like, it. It was horrible. I was. Oh, it was bad. Oh, that's bad.

[C]

And so.

[A]

And he was like, oh, yeah, I put bleach. Like, but why didn't you smell it?

[C]

Yeah,

[A]

I'm about to smell this before I drink it.

[B]

Right? Because you just open it and hit.

[C]

Why am I smelling my drink?

[B]

Right, Right.

[C]

Why am I selling my drink?

[A]

It was literally that simple. And it was like.

[C]

Like.

[A]

Like, why did you. Like, I don't know. Like, it felt intentional. And my sister was there, and I called my mom. I had the message. It's like this. Just put bleach in my water. Like. Like. And he says it was a concoction he was making to kill.

[B]

Wouldn't even did that.

[C]

What did. The life. Didn't. The life insurance. Did you say something about the life insurance? See, we did just got a Raquel Harper.

[A]

Raquel Harper. Oh, from tmz. She, like, her and her husband, like, do prime America life insurance. And they came to Vegas, and we just got, like, a policy for us to. And my daughter and stuff. And then this bleach things happen, and it was like. And I literally, in the moment, felt like I was like, he's trying to kill me. Because why the would you go put bleach in the water that. The bottle that I was drinking. I didn't come back. He's like, why didn't you smell it?

[C]

I'm never trusting.

[A]

Why don't you tell me?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, hey, that water. I just Put or grab it. Rip the label, do something. Take it. Why would you leave it there in the same place as.

[C]

Yeah, that's. So how is your relationship with him now? Do you guys co parent? Is he involved in your daughter's life?

[A]

We haven't seen him in, like a year. He got remarried. He has a new baby, Ava. Met her when she was, like, first born and, you know, things were whatever. I thought we were, like, in a good space, but it seems like maybe, you know, he's just focused on his new family, which is fine, but I just hate it for my daughter, that's all.

[C]

Yeah, that's hard for your daughter. I hate that. Yeah, I hate that.

[A]

We used to. I used to have my week, like, every other weekend to myself or certain holidays because I had that co parent vibe. And now it's like this year was rough. Like kindergarten every single day. No financial support, no nothing. But, you know, like, I'm thugging it out and, you know, I don't fold. I'm a mama. I'm a daddy now, so.

[C]

Period.

[A]

Right, right. Thank you.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

No, well, thank you for coming on. Like, this has been so good.

[A]

We love you. Thank you guys for having. Really great.

[C]

Really appreciate you. Is there anything you want to, like, plug? We'll put in all the links to your twitch and, like, anything else that

[A]

you wanted to, I mean, just mess with me. Like, I'm back in la. You didn't know I'm back in la. You know, I'm just trying to work.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just trying to hustle. I'm trying to provide for mine, take care of mine, do the best I can do, and, you know, any opportunities, anything. Yeah, y' all find my way. I don't know, maybe y' all find me my new husband or something.

[C]

We need to go for dating. Show you can put me on.

[A]

Yeah, I'll take somebody retired as well.

[B]

What's the age? What's the age? What's the age? What's the age gap?

[A]

We. We. Let's talk about the tax.

[C]

The tax brackets, the age gap.

[A]

We'll go tax bracket, period. We ain't going to worry about the age. We're going to the tax bracket. The retirement fund.

[C]

I heard the hell out of that.

[A]

I heard the hell out of that. We're not gonna put an age cap on it.

[B]

I got one more thing.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

Cause me and her had this conversation about a month ago, so, like, is it enough if a guy says, hey, he's. Whatever age is he. Tax bracket? Is the right tax bracket. And he like, all right, you know, I don't wanna get married, but you know what I will do? We together, I'll put you in my will. You gonna make all the decisions. Is that enough?

[A]

Yes, that's enough.

[B]

Right?

[C]

And he said that you can still have a ceremony in a way.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

A ring.

[A]

Because I feel like I could do a spiritual. Like a spiritual ceremony, like a commitment.

[C]

That's what I feel. In front of God or whatever the

[A]

court paper, that signing. It's so easy to get married. It's so hard to get unmarried. You gonna make all the decisions.

[C]

That was the bar.

[B]

You're gonna make all the decisions. If I pass, you get everything in the wheel. But all this. This court stuff, I'm fine with it, you know? But you only get that while we married. When we married, you out the wheel.

[C]

When you're not married. When we not married, you out the wheel. So you don't get nothing in the divorce.

[B]

In the divorce, no. It's like, we break up. I gotta take you out the wheel, though. But if we together, we kneel together, you end the wheel.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

You get everything, decisions, all that. But if we break up, all right. Boom. So we don't have to go through that process.

[C]

But what if you break up?

[B]

You know, all that process is.

[C]

Are you gonna leave her high and dry, though, when you break up? Like, what if she was like. Like, taking care of the house, take care. Take care of you, and, like, she wasn't working during that time?

[B]

No, but I think there has to be something in there. Like, all right, if we've been living together, I take care of you, we in a wheel, we break up. All right, I gotta leave or something. I gotta get her a crib or something.

[A]

At least there's common law marriage, you know?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Not in California, though.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

There's not a Texas. Yeah, exactly. So you will be down for that ceremony.

[A]

I feel like it's.

[C]

You still get the wedding.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Together.

[A]

Yeah, it's a series together, and I'm fine with that. And then, you know, like Jay said, he always put a little bag in the baggie. A little in the purse?

[C]

Yeah, period. I think I'm down for that.

[A]

Come rock with the older girls.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Period.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

Back in the middle of the purse.

[B]

Young ones. These young ones want to catch you falling asleep. Like. Yeah. They go fall.

[A]

Yeah. No, and that's what I'm saying. That's for discretion.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. That was a bar when he said that. But I think that's dope. If a woman can still get a wedding in the ring and then you have a will, I'm rocking with that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And people don't need to be in my business and know what kind of agreement and record deal we got over here. This is what we got. We're married in front of y', all. So it don't even matter what I have going on behind. And as long as there's respect, I'm rocking with that.

[A]

There's. As long as there's respect and honesty. You know what I'm saying? That's another thing with guys. I feel like they don't realize. Like, you could just tell us the truth. Like, I promise we'll. You'll actually. Even though it, like, it will seem hard to tell us what it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That gives us a chance to process, process, digest, and be able to decide, like, how we feel about the situation. Nine times out of 10, we still ain't gonna probably leave. I probably shouldn't say that, but, like, we probably still gonna, you know, be here and then we can figure it out together. So I also think about, like, honesty and just transparency really will get men so much further with us and less headache because you're not gonna get me bitching and complaining if I know what it is when I signed up, Right?

[C]

Yeah. And you know what a man is willing to do? Like, I'm not willing to marry you. I am willing to marry you. I want kids. I don't want kids. I want to move. Like, knowing all of those things, instead of a woman being like, you're saying you basically want that. But then when it's time to show up in that way, you're not. And I think that's where women get hurt the most. And then as a woman, you can decide, because if a man tells me, I don't want this, I don't want that, then I could be like, well, we're not in alignment, so I'm a walk away, and I'm gonna go over here and find someone who wants that and not waste my time.

[A]

I think that's the era I'm in right now.

[C]

Don't waste my time. I could go easily get someone else and be married or do whatever I want to know. That's what men don't realize. Like, there is someone who's going to want with me. So give me the opportunity to have that with the person, you know, whatever the case is. But that's real. That's.

[A]

That's for sure.

[B]

Man, this has been amazing. Thanks for joining us.

[A]

Thanks for having me.

[B]

This has been love.

[C]

Yeah, it has. I'm so.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You're so amazing. Okay, okay. We made it happen.

[A]

For real.

[C]

Stop.

[A]

Got her.

[C]

No, stop. You're messy. You're messy. You're messy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Almost got it.

[A]

You're messy as hell.

[C]

Don't do that. Damn.

[B]

That's the closest I got, huh?

[A]

See what she working with? It's not lacking, I'll say that. Okay. All natural, you know, Set that up.

[C]

You are so burnt out. You're burnt out. But no, this was amazing. Thank you, Hazel. Again, we love y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

Thank you for subscribing.

[A]

Tuning in.

[C]

This is a really dope episode. One of my favorites. Really good energy, for sure. One of my favorites. We've done. People always ask me that. This is one of them. Thank you. Love you. We adore you. And yes, I wish you all of the success. Yes.

[B]

Make sure y', all, like, subscribe. It really goes a long way.

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It was so dope.

[B]

Check her out on Instagram, on all her social platforms. Follow her. She's amazing. She's gonna be doing amazing things. Thank you, Hazel.

[A]

Thanks.

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