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Portia
We need to redo a video and add Portia in it cuz I'm not liking this without our girl pressure Pete.
Cherelle
An official humble baddie at this point.
Ashley
I wasn't gonna say nothing. I ain't want to be presumptuous, but I was like I ain't in There. I want to turn up with the girlies in the intro.
Portia
We gotta do. We're gonna do a. We're gonna redo a video.
Cherelle
Pete.
Portia
We got you. We got you. What's up, ladies?
Cherelle
Hey, girl.
Ashley
Hey, friends.
Portia
How have y' all been?
Cherelle
In the back serenity.
Portia
Say, hi, guys. You and Portia, are we twins?
Cherelle
Yes.
Ashley
Beautiful girl.
Portia
But how y' all been?
Cherelle
I'm good. I'm good. These kids is running me. I ain't gonna lie. I'm tired. Building. Sign them up for every sport there is.
Ashley
And, honey, I'm still recovering from the other night. Y' all know I'm washed. For real. For real. In real life.
Portia
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. We had a time. It was. It was a good time. It was a good time. I was like a kid in the candy store.
Cherelle
Jeezy is definitely your. One of your number one rappers. I enjoyed it, even though I don't be knowing all the words.
Ashley
I was gonna say that Ashley ain't know all the words, but every video that I got, my girl is hopping up and down like she in a mosh pit.
Cherelle
She having a good time.
Portia
Okay. But it was the. It was the fact that she. I don't know these words, but I'm still gonna vibe.
Ashley
I was right there with you, Ash. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Cherelle and Andre and a little hood booger antics. I was just over there. Like, I only know a few of these.
Portia
Y' all know somebody tried me when I was like, y'. All. Y' all know because y' all close to me. Y' all know Juicy is, like, one of my top rappers. I know every lyric. Somebody was like, I bet you she don't even know a whole lot of the lyrics, baby.
Ashley
I have no evidence that you know every word of every song.
Portia
I grew. Listen, I grew up off Jeezy and Gucci, man. Like, high school 0506. I was jamming to Jeezy and Gucci, man. Those were. Was my 2. Then when I stopped playing, we can tell.
Cherelle
Like, everybody looks so good in their Texas and their gowns. Like, it was giving black excellence.
Portia
It was.
Ashley
Except for when we was outside.
Cherelle
I mean, it's just entertaining, so I'm not even mad at it.
Ashley
That part we could have did without. We was like, oh, this is nice. The next thing you know, we start hearing some rumbling. I said, oh.
Portia
It is Jeezy.
Ashley
He brought them out. They was dressed up.
Portia
Jeezy, bring the hood out now. And I was part of the hood. I came out my other My alter ego came out.
Ashley
We had a great time. It was a lot of fun.
Cherelle
It was.
Portia
It was.
Ashley
It's very cute.
Portia
It was good. What y' all got planned this weekend?
Cherelle
Essence Festival. I'm going to Essence.
Portia
Are you going?
Cherelle
Yeah, I'm taking my mom and then I'm speaking on a panel about reality tv, so.
Portia
Oh, that's gonna be good.
Cherelle
What. What we gonna be talking about? But I know it's gonna be a good time. This is my first time going to essence. I've never been to Essence Festival and neither has my mom. So we plan about.
Portia
They said the tickets dropped this year. I. I wonder why. What's going on with essence?
Ashley
I want to go see Tariffs.
Cherelle
The president done lost his mind. Shoot. We.
Ashley
I used to call her Auntie Festival because it kind of is a little Auntie fest. I kind of want to go because I think I'm, you know, we turned into the auntie.
Portia
We the aunties now.
Ashley
Auntie adjacent. Like I. We next to it.
Cherelle
Like. Because, like, I think there's a concert every night. I think we're gonna go probably Saturday night. And it's like Erykah Badu.
Portia
And now what am I supposed to do?
Ashley
I want them to stream it so I can see what you say about reality tv, friend, that's really. But I'm trying to see.
Cherelle
I'm keeping real. I'mma keep it all the way.
Ashley
I'm gonna let y' all know what Ashley Finn said. She finna get up there and they gonna say. So what about. Is she gonna say that show. I'm kidding. Oh, sorry, French fry.
Portia
I ain't see you back there, girl.
Ashley
My bad.
Cherelle
Yeah, no, I'm gonna keep it real. I hope they ask me some real ass questions so I can give them some real ass answers. And I feel like we need to speak on, you know, how reality stars don't get what they deserve. You know, I feel like we're still fighting for, you know, we do a lot of work. Like, reality TV isn't easy. And I feel like the pay is not equivalent to the work that we.
Portia
Definitely not equivalent.
Cherelle
I'll make sure. You know, I'm gonna have my points right.
Ashley
The months and months of exploiting your life.
Cherelle
Exactly.
Portia
I'm gonna. I'm gonna be honest. If I can go back and change the hands of times, I probably wouldn't have done the last show.
Cherelle
Yeah, me either. If I hadn't known it was going to be like that, I felt better.
Portia
I missed out on a lot of business trying to be a team player.
Ashley
Me and Ashley, listen, we, we felt sitting down on the sofa talking about black love and black excellence and business and wealth and sisterhood just for us to end up talking about two vaginas that we just don't care about, right?
Cherelle
All the things that they could have shown. And it's just like, that's the child.
Portia
Listen, let's take, let's, let's carry on. Let's not relive. We. We're in a better space. Let's, let's, let's not relive. Let's get into the show tonight. What we talking about? Y' all see it? The Internet is going crazy. Diddy. With my boy Diddy. Well, I ain't gonna say he my boy, but with, with the boy Diddy.
Cherelle
They ain't let him out yet though, right?
Portia
No, his bail got denied.
Cherelle
Oh, damn.
Portia
But so I guess he has to wait. Have to wait till October. So he's going back to prison until his sentencing in October. But he's clear but still questioned the Diddy dilemma. So y'.
Ashley
All.
Portia
Diddy wasn't found guilty of the big charges. It was the RICO and the sex trafficking. But he was guilty of some lesser charges like transporting people for prostitution. Now that the dust is starting to settle, fans are either defending him hard or distancing their themselves in silence. Now, when I was watching, I seen the fans outside with a whole bunch of baby oil.
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Ashley
People got too much time on their hands.
Cherelle
Was this like in protest? Like were they?
Portia
So after Diddy was found not guilty on the big charges, they read everything out. They, the fans started celebrating and people had baby oils with their shirts off.
Cherelle
We were celebrating with Babylon. Okay. I wasn't sure. I was like, I need to go.
Portia
Buy some stops in Johnson and Johnson.
Ashley
At this point, something people have way too much time, income. Like, what are you doing? Go home.
Cherelle
Outside the courthouse with baby oil like, who Mama and Daddy Are.
Ashley
You like, no, but for real because you know, they wasn't kids. These are people. These are grown adults, grown men.
Portia
These are men out there with their shirts off rubbing baby oil all over them. One man had on the sea a whole Steve Harvey suit, rubbing the baby oil all over his suit.
Ashley
Honey, every day we pray further and further from the Lord's grace. I'm telling you, I'm telling you. This is crazy.
Cherelle
But I'm confused because just a couple of weeks ago everybody was against Diddy. Now they all happy but he got acquitted. I'm like, so what happened? Everybody just kind of flip flop.
Portia
We like some people are silently making subliminal posts. I know they tried to say that Karisha did the Justin Bieber. What's what? What does mean they came out. So they're trying to say she's basically replying to Diddy's outcome. But then some people were trying to come at her and say, oh, you wasn't there to support him, so why are you trying to speak now? Of course, you know 50 Cent, he's gonna be petty. And I think Intro and I forgot what he called him. He said something, it was something on there, but he was trolling. You had little Bootsy come out and is it little Bootsy Boosie come out and say something.
Cherelle
What?
Portia
Bootsy, he came out and said something. I mean, people are talking. You're gonna have more people come out now who didn't say anything. And I feel like they just should have just, they just need to shut up and be quiet because it either you're going to support him and support him, support him loud like crazy Kanye, or you just don't be quiet and, and carry on.
Cherelle
Yeah, everybody was real quiet except for Kanye during the whole trial. Ain't nobody want to have nothing to do with Diddy no more. And now all of a sudden everybody's like, oh, praise God. Amen.
Ashley
Yeah, but I mean that also for the people who, who were not supporting Diddy, that doesn't really change the outcome. Doesn't really change how they feel about him. What these 12 people think about what he did and what somebody else thinks about what he did. It don't matter if he in jail or not. If they think that he's a monster, they just think that he's a monster.
Portia
Right.
Ashley
You understand what I'm saying? So it's really no like, I don't know. The people who were quietly, they were quiet about it because they low key supported him. There's no sense in coming out about it now because you ain't gonna change nobody mind. No, it is. And it doesn't affect us either way. Honestly, it don't. I agree with you. I feel like the people who are quietly supporting him, they should, they should just stay quiet because you weren't confident enough to say it before. So why are you all. I told you so now I feel.
Portia
Like people are, are mad that they didn't let him. Well, I don't feel like I'm seeing reading that people are mad that they didn't let him out on Bun. Like what's the point if he didn't get charged, found guilty on the, the big charges while y' all holding him.
Cherelle
In because there's still other charges, I guess something.
Ashley
So they have to figure out what they're going to do about that. And then also that man got money, he can flee. Because if I was did it, you let me out.
Portia
I mean, what, what, what's the maximum charge of transportation of prostitute.
Cherelle
Oh, yeah, they said 10 years.
Ashley
They're trying to give him the max. It's like 10 years for each of those lesser charges. They try to give him the max.
Portia
But it's hard to give somebody the max who don't have any criminal charges, who has never had any criminal charges.
Ashley
It is hard, but they're going to try.
Cherelle
That's why they ain't giving him bail. They like, well, we keep him while we can.
Ashley
They're gonna try to keep him for whatever they can. But it's just crazy because it's almost like. Like, I understand what all of this was for, but I kind of don't understand what it was all for. I feel like it just seemed like just some horrible humiliation ritual or something. Because it's like y' all came out and said all of that. Y' all told all of that man business talk about racketeering, and it's like.
Cherelle
Witnesses and all their stories.
Ashley
All we got was just scandalous, salacious details about his sex life. It's like, my God, take me at the chat, please.
Cherelle
Yeah.
Portia
I don't even look at Diddy the same at all how I looked at.
Ashley
Him in the first place. I just feel like those stories about.
Portia
Him, I didn't have no. No bad look. But now it's just like. It was just like, okay, you. You a great. You know. But now the skeletons that came out.
Ashley
Is like, ooh, it's just a little nasty.
Cherelle
Yeah, nasty.
Ashley
And he beat. He beat people.
Portia
Yeah.
Cherelle
Let me ask y' all a question. Would y' all go to a Diddy party now?
Ashley
Now?
Portia
No, no, that's not up my speed. I'm too old for that type of mess. Can I tell you.
Cherelle
No, I'm talking about, like, I've been.
Ashley
To a ditty party before.
Cherelle
He has at his house. Like, it's the all white, big Diddy part. Like, he has, like, you know, not the same party.
Ashley
They be normal parties, though. Like, I've been to did you Parties. They be normal parties until a certain time and in a certain room, they really be normal parties. That's what everybody's like, oh, Diddy parties. Diddy parties. First of all, Diddy throws spectacular parties, Right? Okay, Pusha P. I'm just saying, I done been to one or two, and it was fun, but they were normal parties.
Portia
You were drinking out the punch bowls.
Ashley
I don't know what I was drinking. I don't know what I was drinking.
Cherelle
Because I feel like people are gonna forgive him and forget and things are gonna slowly get back to how they were.
Portia
But do you think he gonna start back throwing parties?
Ashley
I think he needs to go to Thailand.
Portia
I don't think so.
Ashley
There.
Cherelle
With Russell Simmons.
Ashley
With Russell, exactly.
Portia
But I think now I feel like.
Cherelle
He'S gonna have a point to prove. And I feel like he's gonna just be like, extra because, you know, he was trying to change his whole Persona with the whole love thing. So I feel like he's gonna go extra hard with that and try to prove a point and have more love Party.
Ashley
That man is in his 50s. He needs to go enjoy his. His wealth in his life. He need to stay.
Portia
Got grandkids?
Ashley
No. Oh, the way these people ate him up. I wouldn't want to come back here and talk to none of these people. The whole world ate his ass up for the better part of an year. I would take my little coins. Much like what Cassie need to do. Girl, take your coins and move away. Go away from this stuff. And these people just not though.
Cherelle
He seems like a person who needs that attention. He still needs to be like. He needs to be Diddy. He gonna come out with a new name. He probably gonna be like.
Portia
He gonna change his last name from Love to what?
Cherelle
He's gonna come out with a new name, Child.
Ashley
I don't know.
Cherelle
And yeah, I just don't see him, like, cowering out and, like, hiding away anywhere. I don't see that happening. We'll see.
Portia
Well, only time will tell. First we gotta see in October what they gonna send us him with.
Ashley
Honey, the Internet is insane. It's too much. Like. I'm honestly so glad that this is over because I was tired of, like, debating people about it. I was tired of seeing it on my timeline. I was. It was just too much for me. The Internet is just. Yeah, it's a lot. It's not. And then it's also just like, with the news that was coming out, like all these rumors and stuff. Like, the Internet is. That ain't it. You can't really believe all the stuff that you hear and what you see. It was fake news everywhere and it was trash. Honestly. Speaking of fake news.
Portia
Speaking of fake news. Listen.
Ashley
Speaking of fake news, Ms. Ma'. Am.
Portia
Fake news. This Internet is not a real place, but it's ruining real lives.
Ashley
So not ruining real life.
Portia
That's what you know, that's what the type of. Yeah, it's not ruining my life, but speaking of fake news. So y' all know we was at the Jeezy concert, right?
Cherelle
Having A great time.
Portia
I post one picture up, and people just went on a whole Shabam crazy thing. Like, oh, y' all together, this, that. And I'm like, what Saying that, you know, like, Jeezy and Cherelle is a new, like, people. Just the. The people.
Ashley
And then she went on live the next day or like, three days later.
Portia
People still talking about it.
Ashley
Her live, talking about it was a couple.
Portia
Oh, how are y' all gonna. First of all, that's not my type. Second of all, I respect, you know, Jeezy as a great rapper, and that's it. Don't try to put somebody on me. It's crazy. But that ain't even. That ain't even all of it. That's why I say the Internet is crazy. So we. You remember, we did our videos. We posting our videos during the show or whatever. When you sit in the front row, you don't. You don't look behind you. First of all. You ain't checking behind you. I get messages, like, overload. People sending me. People calling me. They like, girl, you on this, this page, this, that. And the third, you trying to expose some. I said, expo. Who is these people? I don't know these people. It's. It's so crazy how people just take. They will do. Do fb, the FBI, CIA, look in your picture, your video. Trying to see and create their own narrative and run with it.
Cherelle
Who was in the background?
Portia
I don't. To this day, I still don't know these people.
Cherelle
What did they say about them?
Portia
Basically saying I was exposing them because apparently they were not supposed to be a couple, but they was a couple. I don't know, child, but I was.
Cherelle
Like, girl, I can't believe.
Portia
Oh, she being messy. They was all in Martini messages in her dms.
Ashley
So it was the people behind you or behind us? There was. They were a couple.
Portia
I guess. So they were a couple. I don't know. They were together. Huh.
Cherelle
Married or something.
Portia
I don't even know the man. I still don't know the man name to this day. I just. I don't know. I just know one person, and I don't want to say their name on the podcast.
Ashley
Okay, so. So the person that you know was affiliated with that person behind you?
Portia
Yes. But what they got to do with me?
Ashley
Not a damn thing.
Portia
Because I ain't like this. Who? Who like this. Let me look behind me and see who behind.
Ashley
Before you pick up your phone and.
Portia
Do your video or who. Who recording theyself. And then looking in the back of the video to see who behind them in the who in their background.
Cherelle
Send them to me because I need to know who this is. I want to figure it out in the back of my videos too.
Portia
The people who they talking about is in everybody who sat in our section. But they single me out saying that I'm the one that's being missing.
Ashley
Because you know the person who know the person.
Portia
Yes, but I don't know them people.
Cherelle
So you know, you know, you know somebody who wasn't at the concert who is affiliated with one of the people.
Portia
The couple that was saying like five rows behind us, not five contact you when they was like, girl, no, it was block. It hit the blogs. It hit the the local blogs in Miami and people just started messaging me and calling me like somebody died. I'm like, what's going on, girl?
Cherelle
Girl, I ain't gonna lie. That's why I like the Internet. Because.
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Cherelle
And try to do something funny.
Portia
I'll find out. Girl, they gonna tell you. They gonna be ready to tell you every time. Every time they're gonna be ready to tell you.
Cherelle
Oh, thank you. Thank you for letting me know. Thank you. I got to check up on him no more.
Portia
It's.
Cherelle
The Internet is doing it for me. Thank you. So I mean I'm here, I'm here for the people, you know, paying attention and you know.
Portia
But what other job do you have though?
Ashley
But wait, since all that happened, have you. Let's just. Let's just say the person's name is Nefertiti. I don't know. Have you talked to Nefertiti about.
Portia
Because that's not my problem. Because I don't know. I don't talk to Nefertiti on a day to day basis.
Cherelle
Okay.
Portia
It's not like it's a close friend of mine. I don't, I still don't know who. If I call, I'm gonna be like, I don't even know the. The guy name. I don't know the female. I heard of her before, but I don't know her. So what I'm gonna say, hey girl, such and such was in my. My video and it hit the block. What I didn't know. Maybe I should have looked around and checked my surroundings before I posted.
Ashley
Yeah, no, no.
Cherelle
That people think you're trying to be messy though.
Portia
Like get the out of here. Who. Who is sitting front row in front row seats looking behind them. Let me check my surroundings before I post.
Ashley
That concert caused you all types of hell one too. Now you got a new man.
Cherelle
You got beef with people.
Ashley
You don't know you messy. That's crazy, girl.
Cherelle
Interesting.
Portia
I said, yeah, they. They. When I tell you the people was devoted into trying. They was reaching out to my best friends. We on vacation. Girl, she is messy. Don't you. Martina was like, hold up. Hey.
Ashley
First of all, I got too much of my friends tramp.
Portia
They send in paragraphs Paragraphs, girl, it's crazy.
Cherelle
Why do people care so much? Because it's one thing to, like, be like, oh, but then to, like, dig into it, be contacting people and writing on blogs and doing all kind of.
Portia
Stuff, creating a whole fake page just to speak your piece and then creating.
Cherelle
A whole narrative, like.
Portia
And that's what we're gonna get into. Why are we so quick to believe our narratives without the facts? I don't know.
Ashley
Sometimes they'd be true.
Cherelle
Juicy, salacious drama, you know, they just are bored, I think, and just need something to be entertained by and especially if it's negative, you know?
Ashley
Did y' all see that girl that was in the blogs? Because some blog had posted Nelly and Ashanti because of their new show. And the girl commented talking about how she was just sleeping with him last week or something. I seen that going in and I was like, like, why does everyone believe it? Like, all she. It was just a random comment. And it was like, why did they pick that comment out of all the ridiculous comments? And they just know for a fact, like, like a thing. And I'm like, damn, Literally anybody can just go in there, be like, yep, I was just with Ashanti last week. That baby, my baby.
Portia
And they let me. This is even worse. So we were in Paris for Beyonce concert. Chad was in south of France. Not how, how all of a sudden, we together. We together. They was running with narratives, like, okay.
Ashley
Now that narrative isn't. It's not. It's only far fetched because I know you and because I know the situation. But if I did not know you and I did not know the situation, I'd be like, what the hell they both doing in France? Don't nobody go to France every day.
Portia
But do you know how far the two locations are?
Ashley
These people don't know what the hell is going on.
Portia
That's why I said these people fail geography, because, I mean, how you gonna get the south of France where he at? And I'm up here in Paris, over here in Paris. Like, what? It don't even make sense. Oh, they together. She running behind him. She trying to stay close to him. I mean, I do have a child by him and his kid. His daughters are their sisters. So if they want to come around me, they can't. Like, people just create nar. What, I'm supposed to just cut off all ties, let her stop talking to her sisters.
Cherelle
You can't do nothing.
Portia
I'm just about to delete everything. Like, dang, can we be like Becky and John and Have a great co parenting relationship.
Cherelle
Who is Becky and John?
Portia
White people. They always have good co. They get. She know white people don't have these problems. It's always us. Like we always have to. It's always something. Oh, she still want him because she communicating with him. Well, damn, it was my fiance. We do got a child together. Why can't we communicate? Why can't we have a great co parenting relationship?
Cherelle
Because people want y' all to be miserable. That's why. And they want to make a story out of it. You know, they just bored. I think they don't have enough going on in their lives. Yeah.
Portia
It'S crazy. Like, let's. We should practice. Okay. They broke up. It's okay. We. They should be happy. Dang. They still get along. They're still good. They. They have a great co parenting. But no, it's always negative things. We got to get better. We have to practice showing positivity. And it's okay to co parent beef with each other.
Cherelle
I saw this post earlier today. I want to read it. It says the Shade Room is a toxic cesspool that has done more damage to black community than traditional media ever could. It has taught a whole generation to normalize disrespect, misogyny and public humiliation and then repackaged it as entertainment and news for traffic police and views. And I think that is true. It's like, you know, in the beginning, it was like, oh, you made the Shade room. You in the shade room. It was like everybody happy. Like, yeah, everybody wanted to be on the Shade Room. Like it was a thing. But now I'm like, terrified. I don't ever want to be on the Shade Listen ever. Because it's always going to. Even if you're on there for something positive, there's always going to be some group of people that are going in on you. You know, they're going to nitpick at it. They're going to lie. They're gonna just find something wrong with you or whatever you're doing and just make a whole narrative, create a whole narrative. And then you got people commenting on that and commenting on that, and it just turns into this whole, like, negative thing. So, you know, these blogs, I really feel like they should do a better job. They. They hold so much weight. They have more responsibility now and their platform is so huge. I really feel like they need to do better. You know, the content that they put out, because it's really changed the way that I feel like black people communicate with each other on social media.
Ashley
So, like, a year ago, I unfollowed every blog. Like, every blog. And not for any real reason. I just kind of woke up one day and was just like, you know, that's trash. Which is why I don't ever know what you'd be talking about. I'm always, like, trying to figure out what you're talking about. I unfollowed every blog. And you know what I realized is that as an adult woman, I didn't know what the hell was going on in the world. And I was fully getting my news from blogs, and I was ashamed. I was like, oh, girl. Like, how do you not know anything that's happening? And not just in, like, entertainment or culture, but you don't know anything, anything. Because you unfollowed tmz. Because you unfollowed Shade Room. Because you. And I really just unfollowed it because it was like. It was more. It was more negativity than anything. And even if it was positive, it was, like, nice, nasty. And it wasn't even the post that got me. It was the comments. It would just be, like, the overwhelming negativity towards every little thing. You know what I mean? Like, on Peacock, and I saw Nelly and Ashanti's show came out, right? And it just. It looked like a cute show. And then I was on threads, and everybody's talking about it, and most people are talking about how cute it is. If I go on Instagram, the only thing that people are talking about is how he's a crap dad and he don't help her change diapers. Depending on the platform you go on, they look like they're having fun. They look like they're laughing. Like it's, you know, like, oh, my God, they're so cute. That's great. But, you know, the. The blogs are like, you know, just Instagram, just people, just in general, it just overwhelmingly negative.
Cherelle
If you have shaping people's opinions on people's whole lives.
Portia
Yeah, people jump on bandwagons. They see one thing and they run with it. And now everybody is repeating what that one person said who that. That comment may have went viral. Now they're going to other blogs to try to make the same comment viral. It's just. It's ridiculous.
Ashley
On Tick Tock, there's. It's. It's a whole synopsis. On this one scene, I keep seeing this one scene over and over and over again. Everybody has these weighted opinions. Him saying, oh, I had this conversation with you, you know, before we got married, before we had the baby. That I don't do that type of stuff. You know what I mean? And everybody's going in about this one thing and I'm like, bro, I know they filmed for months, right?
Cherelle
Right.
Ashley
Why is this the hot take? Because it's probably the most negative take fine from the entire show.
Cherelle
Yeah, it's crazy.
Portia
It's so crazy. Do y' all think is social media making people lazy thinkers?
Ashley
Yes.
Cherelle
Yeah, for sure. Everybody's, like you said, jumping on the bandwagon. They're not, they're not looking for facts. They're not critical thinking. Critical thinking anymore. They're just, they'll read an opinion and they're like, oh, well, that sounds good. I'm gonna go over here. Or that sounds good. I'm gonna be over here today. You know, nobody's like putting facts together. Nobody's researching anything. Even when it comes to like the most basic things, people are just like, whatever she's doing, I like her. I'm do that. Like, it's very much just copy and paste, you know? So, yeah, I do think people are. It's making people lazy.
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Club Shay Shay: Humble Baddies - Part 1: Diddy Verdict Reaction + Relle Responds to Dating Rumors
Release Date: July 4, 2025
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a lively discussion with guests Portia, Ashley, and Cherelle. Titled "Humble Baddies - Part 1: Diddy Verdict Reaction + Relle Responds to Dating Rumors," the episode delves into high-profile legal updates, the impact of social media narratives, and personal experiences surrounding reality TV and celebrity culture.
The conversation kicks off with a detailed reaction to the recent verdict involving the iconic rapper and entrepreneur, Diddy. The guests express mixed emotions over the acquittal on major charges but acknowledge the lingering lesser charges related to transportation of individuals for prostitution.
Portia (08:39): "Diddy wasn't found guilty of the big charges. It was the RICO and the sex trafficking. But he was guilty of some lesser charges like transporting people for prostitution."
The group discusses the societal and fanbase split following the verdict, highlighting how opinions have polarized. They note the fervent defense by some fans and the silence or distancing by others.
Cherelle (12:04): "But I’m confused because just a couple of weeks ago everybody was against Diddy. Now they all happy but he got acquitted."
The guests delve into the broader implications of Diddy's legal troubles on his public image and future endeavors. They discuss how the scandal has affected perceptions of him and question the motivations behind the legal actions.
Ashley (15:54): "What are you doing? Go home. They like, well, we keep him while we can."
The conversation also touches on the potential consequences Diddy might face, including possible changes in his business and personal life.
Transitioning from legal drama, the guests share their excitement and apprehensions about attending the Essence Festival. Cherelle reveals her plans to speak on a panel about reality TV, opening up a dialogue about the authenticity and value of reality television.
Cherelle (05:21): "I'm speaking on a panel about reality TV, so."
They express concerns over how reality TV stars are perceived and compensated, emphasizing the disparity between the effort involved and the rewards received.
Cherelle (07:49): "Reality TV isn't easy. And I feel like the pay is not equivalent to the work that we do."
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to critiquing the role of social media and online blogs in shaping public narratives. The guests lament how platforms like Shade Room and various blogs prioritize sensationalism over factual reporting, leading to misinformation and damaged reputations.
Cherelle (31:57): "The Shade Room is a toxic cesspool that has done more damage to the black community than traditional media ever could."
Portia (28:37): "Why are we so quick to believe our narratives without the facts?"
Portia shares a personal anecdote about attending a Jeezy concert, where a simple photo led to widespread rumors and harassment. This incident underscores the invasive nature of social media and its capacity to distort reality.
Portia (20:09): "I posted one picture up, and people just went on a whole Shabam crazy thing."
The guests discuss the emotional toll of such harassment and the challenges of maintaining privacy in the digital age.
Ashley opens up about her decision to unfollow various blogs and social media platforms to escape the negativity, only to realize how disconnected she became from broader societal events.
Ashley (33:28): "I unfollowed every blog. And you know what I realized is that as an adult woman, I didn't know what the hell was going on in the world."
This segment highlights the dilemma of staying informed while avoiding the overwhelming negativity prevalent online.
The discussion culminates in a broader critique of social media’s impact on critical thinking and public discourse. The guests argue that the ease of spreading unchecked opinions fosters a culture of lazy thinking and immediate judgment.
Cherelle (35:21): "Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon. They're not looking for facts. They're not critical thinking anymore."
Portia (36:13): "Is social media making people lazy thinkers?"
Ashley (36:19): "Yes."
Portia (08:39): "Diddy wasn't found guilty of the big charges. It was the RICO and the sex trafficking. But he was guilty of some lesser charges like transporting people for prostitution."
Cherelle (12:04): "But I'm confused because just a couple of weeks ago everybody was against Diddy. Now they all happy but he got acquitted."
Cherelle (31:57): "The Shade Room is a toxic cesspool that has done more damage to the black community than traditional media ever could."
Ashley (36:19): "Yes." (in response to whether social media is making people lazy thinkers)
The episode offers a candid exploration of how high-profile legal cases and the relentless tide of social media narratives affect individuals and communities. Through personal stories and critical analysis, Portia, Ashley, and Cherelle shed light on the complexities of modern celebrity culture, the responsibilities of media platforms, and the importance of maintaining authenticity and integrity in both personal and public lives.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own interactions with social media and consider the broader implications of how information is consumed and disseminated in today's digital landscape.
Stay Tuned: This episode sets the stage for further discussions in the "Humble Baddies" series, promising deeper dives into the intersections of fame, media, and personal integrity.