Humble Baddies - Part 1: Hailey Bailey Custody battle & Have men become the new baddies?!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Humble Baddies - Part 1: Hailey Bailey Custody Battle & Have Men Become the New Baddies?!

Podcast Information:

• Title: Club Shay Shay
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
• Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.
• Episode: Humble Baddies - Part 1: Hailey Bailey Custody Battle & Have Men Become the New Baddies?!
• Release Date: May 15, 2025

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Introduction to Humble Baddies

[02:20] Alexis Stoudemire kicks off the episode by welcoming listeners to "Humble Baddies," where she, alongside her co-hosts Sherrelle and Portia Berto, delve into the latest topics, tea, and good vibes affecting their lives and the broader community.

Personal Anecdotes and Milestones

The conversation begins with the hosts sharing personal updates:

• Portia Berto fills in for Sherrelle, expressing her excitement about returning to Miami and humorously discussing her makeup preferences.

  • Portia: “Whenever I get my makeup done, that's my first bit of instruction is, please don't make me look like a white woman.” [03:09]

• Sherrelle and Portia discuss their children, emphasizing that there's no such thing as a "bad baby," even acknowledging challenging moments like a colicky baby resulting in a chipped tooth.

  • Portia: “He's a good baby.” [04:07]

• The hosts celebrate their anniversaries, reflecting on the longevity and evolution of their marriages.

  • Sherrelle: “It's been our eighth year, but we've been together 16 years.” [05:15]

Navigating Marital Challenges

A significant portion of the conversation focuses on marital struggles, particularly around the seven-year mark:

• Portia introduces the concept of the "seven year itch," where relationships often face heightened challenges.

  • Portia: “I've had the seven-year issues.” [05:33]

• Sherrelle elaborates on their experience, highlighting the importance of communication to prevent the relationship from becoming "dry" or "ash."

  • Sherrelle: “We needed time to sit down and really express our feelings.” [06:35]

• The hosts discuss strategies for maintaining a healthy marriage, emphasizing continuous communication, honesty, and mutual respect.

  • Sherrelle: “What kind of marriage do you want to have? What are your expectations of me?” [08:17]

• Alexis underscores the importance of understanding and supporting each other through marital ups and downs.

  • Alexis: “I think it's commendable that you're honest because... if more people in our community were more honest about what marriage looked like...” [10:18]

Custody Battle of Hailey Bailey

Moving into a more serious topic, the hosts address the high-profile custody battle involving Hailey Bailey and her ex-boyfriend, rapper DDG:

• Sherrelle introduces the topic by summarizing the allegations against DDG, including physical, verbal, emotional, and financial abuse.

  • Sherrelle: “Haley is her name Haley or Holly? Holly. Haley Bailey... granted a temporary restraining order against DDG.” [20:28]

• Alexis provides context about Haley Bailey's public image as Disney's first black Ariel and the pressures she faced, balancing her career and impending motherhood.

  • Alexis: “We don't know what people have going on behind closed doors... But it’s public now, and we just support her and uplift her.” [22:33]

• Portia discusses the couple's online interactions, noting DDG’s tendency to overshare and engage in public disputes.

  • Portia: “He was saying a lot about her, about the relationship... I really do wish that he would kind of be quiet about what they got going on.” [25:32]

• The hosts delve into the complexities of custody arrangements, questioning whether Haley is overprotective or simply ensuring her child's safety.

  • Portia: “If you don't trust your ex, do you owe them 50-50? Should a mom have the right to decide where the child lives?” [28:19]

• Sherrelle emphasizes the emotional toll on the child and the importance of prioritizing the child's well-being over parental disputes.

  • Sherrelle: “It's a lot of mental and emotional abuse that she's already saying she's had.” [30:21]

Have Men Become the New Baddies?

Transitioning to a lighter yet culturally relevant topic, the hosts explore the evolving roles of men in society and relationships:

• Sherrelle poses the question: “Have men officially become the new baddies?” examining the shift in traditional gender roles.

  • Sherrelle: “Some of these men are wearing crop tops, getting facials, and giving fast. And honestly, they're doing it better than us.” [35:43]

• Portia critiques the trend of men adopting more "sassy" and emotionally expressive behaviors, expressing a preference for traditional masculinity.

  • Portia: “If she gets money, then she’s just getting money. But if you’re still a man, you'll make up for it in other ways.” [37:01]

• Alexis discusses the balance between emotional expression and drama, noting that while men are encouraged to "speak up," it can sometimes come across as over-the-top or aggressive.

  • Alexis: “Men are getting more comfortable with speaking up, which I appreciate, but it’s turning into being aggressive and sassy.” [47:33]

• The hosts debate whether men are becoming more dramatic or simply more expressive of their emotions, with Portia advocating for clearer and more effective communication from men.

  • Portia: “Men just don't communicate as effectively as women do.” [48:10]

• Sherrelle highlights the negative aspects of online interactions, where men often leave derogatory comments, further complicating the discourse around masculinity and respect.

  • Sherrelle: “Men are very opinionated... It's crazy to me.” [49:02]

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with reflections on maintaining personal standards and the importance of mutual respect and understanding in both personal relationships and broader societal roles. The hosts emphasize the need for continuous growth, open communication, and supporting one another through both challenges and triumphs.

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Notable Quotes:

• Portia Berto [03:09]: “Whenever I get my makeup done, that's my first bit of instruction is, please don't make me look like a white woman.”
• Sherrelle [08:17]: “What kind of marriage do you want to have? What are your expectations of me?”
• Alexis Stoudemire [22:33]: “We don't know what people have going on behind closed doors... But it’s public now, and we just support her and uplift her.”
• Sherrelle [35:43]: “Some of these men are wearing crop tops, getting facials, and giving fast. And honestly, they're doing it better than us.”
• Portia Berto [37:01]: “If you’re still a man, you'll make up for it in other ways.”
• Alexis Stoudemire [47:33]: “Men are getting more comfortable with speaking up, which I appreciate, but it’s turning into being aggressive and sassy.”

Key Takeaways:

1. Marriage Dynamics: Long-term relationships face challenges, particularly around communication and evolving personal needs. Open dialogue is crucial for sustaining a healthy marriage.
2. Custody Battles: High-profile custody disputes highlight the complexities of domestic abuse and the legal system's role in protecting children and parents.
3. Gender Roles: Traditional gender roles are shifting, with men adopting more expressive and sometimes sassy behaviors. This evolution sparks discussions on masculinity, communication, and societal expectations.
4. Personal Standards: Maintaining personal standards and mutual respect is vital in both personal relationships and broader societal interactions.

This episode of "Humble Baddies" offers a blend of personal anecdotes, serious discussions on custody battles, and cultural commentary on changing gender roles, providing listeners with both relatable content and thought-provoking insights.

Transcript

[Alexis Stoudemire]

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[Portia Berto]

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[Ashley]

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[Sherrelle]

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[Portia Berto]

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[Ashley]

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[Portia Berto]

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[Alexis Stoudemire]

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[Sherrelle]

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[Portia Berto]

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[Ashley]

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[Alexis Stoudemire]

What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Humble Baddies. I'm your girl, Alexis Stoudemire and we are here with to give you some of the. What's the latest tea, the vibes, the good energy. You know what's good. What's good, ladies?

[Sherrelle]

Hey girl. We got our sisters in the house. Portia Berto here filling in for our girl Sherrelle. What's up boo? I miss you. Hey, hey Portia.

[Portia Berto]

I know, I miss y' all too. I can't wait to get back down to Miami so we can Hang out. I'm coming because I need a sand, first of all.

[Sherrelle]

Okay. I guess.

[Portia Berto]

You hear how Alexis tried me. She already said I look like something off of Twilight.

[Sherrelle]

I mean, you could use a little. Yeah, you think?

[Portia Berto]

I'm giving Everlasting White Woman.

[Sherrelle]

It's cute. It's so good. It's so pretty.

[Portia Berto]

Everlasting White Lady. And it's so funny, y' all. Whenever I get my makeup done, that's my first bit of instruction is, please don't make me look like a white woman.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Like, wash you out.

[Portia Berto]

It can go.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

You know what I mean?

[Sherrelle]

I always tell them I want to be bronze. Like, bronze me down. I want to be floating brown. Yes.

[Portia Berto]

There you go. Like a new guys.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah. Makeup.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I don't want much.

[Portia Berto]

This is beyond makeup. I'm not gonna be on here. Mismatch color and everything else. And, girl, if you down here, you.

[Sherrelle]

Know, a little more south and get you some of this done. Okay.

[Portia Berto]

Trying to be brown like the girls. I mean, like the gay. Okay.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I'll do the baby.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

He's so good. My little chunky bug, y' all. He's the best. I try not to say things like, oh, good baby, bad baby, because there's no such thing as a bad baby.

[Sherrelle]

He a good baby.

[Portia Berto]

He's a good baby.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

There's a.

[Portia Berto]

There's a bad sleep for Mina. Colicky baby.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, that's a good baby right there.

[Portia Berto]

That baby that big. That's a good baby.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

That's thing, too, that, you know, him being the latest one, you know, like. Because that can, like, change up a little bit of the diagnosis.

[Sherrelle]

Would you have another baby?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

So it just makes it easier because.

[Sherrelle]

He was a good man.

[Portia Berto]

I will.

[Sherrelle]

Go ahead.

[Portia Berto]

I will say I feel like that's how people get pushed into having four and five babies, because they get that one baby that's just like you. You know, I'm like, I'm an amazing. No, but he's just great. You know what I mean?

[Sherrelle]

You can't answer my question. Are you gonna have another baby?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I don't know.

[Portia Berto]

I don't think it's up to me. Okay, that's great.

[Sherrelle]

But are you saying it's up to God or it's up to your husband? I mean. Oh, kind of both, right?

[Portia Berto]

It's giving both, you know, I think. I think I would be open to it. Not right now, though. I'm so tired, y' all. I'm exhausted. Like, I don't have it. I feel you girls damn sleepy all the time. But if you wanted another one, I'd be like, yeah, okay. Okay, sure.

[Sherrelle]

Well, I'm beyond babies, but I am celebrating my anniversary today with y' all. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary.

[Portia Berto]

Do you know today it's my anniversary?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

What a blessing.

[Sherrelle]

Ashley, congratulations. Thank you.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Thank you.

[Portia Berto]

How many years has it been?

[Sherrelle]

Our eighth year.

[Portia Berto]

I know, that's right.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, our eighth year. But we've been together 16 years, so, I mean, to me, I feel like it's been a lifetime, you know what I'm saying? Like.

[Portia Berto]

I have a question because I'm almost like you. It's been 15 years for us, but six years married. But have you ever heard of the seven year eight?

[Sherrelle]

Yes. Yes.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

That's when I died.

[Portia Berto]

I've had the seven year issues.

[Sherrelle]

I don't know. Seven years. I definitely feel like it was maybe around six years. I feel like we wasn't itching, but we needed some lotion, you know what I'm saying? We needed some shave butter. We was actual dry, you know what I'm saying? We wasn't itchy yet, but it was definitely getting to a point where we needed some moisturizing of our relationship, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's like we definitely felt it. So I ain't trying to fool. No.

[Portia Berto]

How you moisturize it? I'm so intrigued. How'd you moisturize? Because I'm coming up on your seven.

[Sherrelle]

You need to.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

You need. This is good. This is good dialogue to know about, by the way.

[Portia Berto]

If it get ashy. I need.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I got, you know, before it got to us being itchy, you know what I'm saying? We was a little. Was a little dry, and I felt like it was a communication thing. Communication was dry. And, like, we really needed time to, like, sit down and really express, like, our feelings, you know. Every day I would be saying what I'm frustrated about, but not what I'm frustrated about, you know what I'm saying? It would be like little things that I'm, like, mad at him about, but the real core issues we weren't addressing. And so I feel like, really it took conversations of us sitting outside. Like, I have somebody, you know, here with the kids, and we literally sat outside. Y' all know I'm always outside. And we sat outside on the grass, shoes off, like, just talk, you know, Just have conversation. Yeah. Like, we really needed to ground ourselves, ground our relationship and just like talk for hours and just like lay it all out. Um, so we did that. We went away, you know, so we can have more conversation, you know, time just by ourselves. And I really feel like just being open and honest about what we're really feeling and really, like, making a decision about what we're going to do moving forward. Because it's like, yeah, we can talk about it all day, but, like, moving forward, like, what kind of marriage do you want to have?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

For real?

[Sherrelle]

Like, because, you know, we could be married, and it could suck. We can have, you know, a good marriage, you know, so.

[Portia Berto]

Or you can have a good marriage.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah.

[Sherrelle]

Or, you know, so it's like, one. Let's try to be here.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I like that.

[Sherrelle]

First of all, you know.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, you want to be here. Because if you don't, you know what I mean? Well, we just did, and we knew that. But it's like, okay, if we both want the same things, then, like, what are we doing? So really, you just got to ask the question, like, do you want to be here? What kind of marriage do you want to have? What kind of wife do you want? What kind of husband do you want? What are your expectations of me? You know what? Where do you see us building together? What do you see you building on your own? Like, just really whatever those, like, core questions are, I feel like we really had to sit down and talk about it because just going every day, like, doing your thing and then waiting till something happens to try to have a conversation about those things. It doesn't work. Like, you really got to be specific because it's your marriage and it's forever, and you need to be specific about what you want your marriage to be.

[Portia Berto]

Like secondary incense. No, I feel that.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

But thank you, girl. Take it.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah. So don't let it get. Don't let it get itchy when he.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

We don't want it to be itchy.

[Sherrelle]

Okay. Every. Get. Get you some shea butters. Get you some juvederm.

[Portia Berto]

We have therapy in here every day. Like, I fully became his therapist, and I think he became mine. But it's, you know, necessary.

[Sherrelle]

Yes, it is. And it's something you have to do every day. You got p lotion on every day or your ass going to get ashy every day.

[Portia Berto]

Or are you gonna look at that?

[Sherrelle]

Exactly.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Gotta check in.

[Sherrelle]

Got to. So that's my little advice now, you know, we on year eight. I'm still learning and, you know, so whatever advice, I'm always, like, here. But I just know that worked for us when we had. When we had got a little dry or whatever. But it was.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Is so seven years is when actually it Was started to be a separation and divorce. So it.

[Sherrelle]

That's a real 70 by 7.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yes.

[Portia Berto]

Yeah.

[Sherrelle]

They said, like, that's a real. Like, it's been studied like that. It has been real.

[Portia Berto]

Absolutely.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And it's not. Was that. Obviously, it just wasn't seven years because we have children prior to that. But, like, that's when things started to shift. And I agree with you, Ashley. I think it's commendable that you're honest because you're in it and others are in it and listening, because I feel like if more people in our circle, in our community, that people that were, like, there for us or were more honest about what marriage looked like, how hard it is, how, you know, it. It goes ups and downs, 80, 20, 60, 40, sometimes give and take. All these things. And understanding your partner, I feel like that could have been a little bit of a catalyst for us to kind of maybe think, get things a little bit better. You know, I feel like we were just almost out there figuring this out by ourselves. So without that, you want to know.

[Portia Berto]

What we all thought? You know, we all thought that the worst thing that could happen in your marriage is infidelity. And it. It plainly just ignorant. Everybody thinks that as long as he ain't cheating and I ain't cheating, you think that's the worst thing that can happen to you, Correct? Truthfully, it's just life. You're growing up, you're getting older, now you're an adult.

[Sherrelle]

Childhood traumas come up.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yes.

[Portia Berto]

You know, you're parenting, your children are being born. They're going through stuff, financial stuff.

[Sherrelle]

And then you throw into different people. Like, I'm not the same person that he met, you know, in 2009, you know what I'm saying? And. And you're not supposed to, exactly, but that's the thing. Like, people. Like, at one point, he's like, but you wasn't like that before. You didn't like that before. I'm like, yeah, I know. I was.

[Portia Berto]

He probably told me that yesterday.

[Sherrelle]

There's definitely, like, natural growing pains, but nobody really talks about that. But, you know, there's one thing that I don't subscribe to, and that's that marriage is hard. And I feel like. I hate that saying. I hate when people say marriage is hard, because nothing that's worth it in life is easy, first of all. Okay. Second of all, it's hard if you want it to be hard. You know what I'm saying? Like, we know what we need saying. A marriage needs communication. We've Been hearing that since the beginning of time. Saying, like, you have to be honest. They're transparent and truthful. We know these things. It's just doing it. You know, it's just actually being about it and doing the things that you say. And I just feel like, you know, power is in the tongue. So if you keep saying marriage is how you're just. You know what I'm saying, Y' all marriage is going to be hard. So I just don't subscribe to saying those words out loud. I will never be like. I'm just like, you know, he get on my nursing time.

[Portia Berto]

You know what? I don't like to say that it's hard, but it damn sure.

[Sherrelle]

And that's cool. That's what I was going to say. It's not worth having. It is a little hard.

[Portia Berto]

It is not.

[Sherrelle]

But it's a challenge.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And you're supposed to.

[Sherrelle]

You want to show up positively over your marriage, protect your marriage.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I just. I just don't.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I know that.

[Sherrelle]

Right? Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

Deaconess Wheeler, you better tell them. Tell the congregation, the saints in the back, life and death.

[Sherrelle]

And I would have to tell you hello.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

But we want that. We do need that, for sure.

[Sherrelle]

But we gonna celebrate. I Lowkey had forgot about my anniversary. His mom had called to wish me, and I was like.

[Portia Berto]

But his mama, was she shady about. She wasn't.

[Sherrelle]

She was just like, oh, that's nice. Yeah, actually. Yeah, I know. Thank you, Ms. Phyllis. She said she sent us a gift. It hasn't come yet, but she is so sweet. Like, our relationship has grown so much over the years, and I think that has helped our marriage as well, because, you know, when you don't get along with the squad, that's hard. Okay. So I'm glad that we are healed from our past, because if you ever watched any of my old show, y' all know it was a mess back in the day. She was cutting up her favorite Phyllis. Nothing to play with. Okay.

[Portia Berto]

Nothing to play with.

[Sherrelle]

I still love Hurricane Phyllis. That's still Hurricane Phyllis. I love her, though. Yeah, I love it. So we gonna celebrate. We gonna celebrate. I don't know. In a couple weeks, we going out of town, but for now, I'm gonna just be outside with my chickens and that's all.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Do you think. Do you think the anniversaries change over time? Like, it's just like, we'll just celebrate later or.

[Sherrelle]

It's not. I do feel like in the beginning I was like, count down the days to my anniversary. And now, like, it's another day, another year.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah.

[Sherrelle]

I still gotta, like, I'm, you know, I'm happy. And, you know, I feel blessed that we made it to eight years because, I mean, we'd be talking all the time. Like, can you believe, like, we've been married for eight years and we got.

[Portia Berto]

Two people, they like an old person because you feel like, whose life is this had?

[Sherrelle]

If we've been married, we could need parents.

[Portia Berto]

Who said that?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Who chose that crazy for giving us kids?

[Portia Berto]

Yeah, we say that a lot. But it is something to be proud of sometimes. Like, I don't get caught up in the celebration of it or what we gonna do or where's my gift? I don't do any of that. But, like, we'll go to dinner and we'll just be like, oh, like, we're proud of us. You know what I mean?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I love that.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I like that, too. And, you know, I just think that in this day and age, we really should, like, recognize it. Like, I shouldn't. We shouldn't be so nonchalant about it because, honestly, like, relationships don't be lasting and marriages, people don't, you know, uplift it like they used to anymore. So we should, you know, celebrate it. And it is a big deal. So I don't mean to, like, make it seem little of it at all. I think it's.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah, yeah, I understand.

[Portia Berto]

We feel you, girl. We know you ain't.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

We do.

[Portia Berto]

You ain't gonna give all the emotion all the time. You know what I mean?

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I just. I feel. I feel blessed every day. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm happy every day. I take a moment every day to be like, thank God for all of this. You know what I'm saying? So. But, yeah, I don't make little of it at all.

[Portia Berto]

I need that little dose of positivity to start the cast.

[Sherrelle]

Okay, okay, Enough of me. Enough of my fairy tale.

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[Sherrelle]

Let's talk about Segment one From Fairy Tales to Headlines, Tonight we're diving into a story that's been making waves across social media and news outlets. It's about love, fame, and the complexities that come with both. We're talking about the recent allegations involving Haley Bailey and her ex boyfriend, rapper ddg. That's right. Haley. Is her name Haley or Holly? Holly. Haley. I think it's Haley. Haley Bailey.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I think it's Haley.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

Little Mermaid.

[Sherrelle]

Mermaid. Little Mermaid. She's recently been granted temporary custody. Oh. Granted a temporary restraining order against cdg and citing multiple instances of abuse during and after their relationship. The couple share a 17 month old son named Halo, and they began dating in 2022, and they separated in October of 2024. The court filings allege physical abuse, verbal, emotional, and financial abuse, including a January incident where DDG allegedly assaulted her during a custody exchange, resulting in a chipped tooth. Ooh, Did y' all see that picture? She also claims that DDG has used social media platforms to spread misinformation and incite harassment against her, leading to threats and online abuse. It's a deeply troubling situation that raises important questions about domestic violence, especially in high profile relationships. So let's open up this conversation with some questions that we hope will spark some thoughtful discussions. All right, so controversial and conversational questions. Did we all ignore red flags because the couple looked so cute online? Were we too caught up in the aesthetic of the relationship to notice things were off?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Well, I want to start by saying, one, we don't know what people have going on behind closed doors. Let's just. That one, two, these are two public figures, and we did see them come together. We did see her like, you know, since she was doing this run with Disney and being, you know, a Disney princess. And Ariel, the first black and only black Ariel, by the way, I feel like, you know, we were invested because she was doing so much press while she was expecting. And so not only that she was focused on her job doing her, but also didn't want to have the stigma of, I'm not married, you know, I'm Disney. I'm all this, this and this. So with all of that pressure and all of that going on, her body changing, hormonal, all this stuff. Again, we don't know what was going on behind closed doors. Obviously. Now what's done in the dark comes to the light because here we are speaking on this. And unfortunately there's a baby, a baby involved. And we know this. As mothers, you want to protect yours. And obviously there's some other things that have happen where it's like, it may or may be documented. I don't know specifics, but enough to where she's like, my child is not safe in this environment. Yeah, obviously, if it's me, you know, I'm not safe in this environment, and neither is this child. So I'm sure. I mean, in order for a judge to even give a restraining order, there is some kind of evidence of, like, at least, like, you know what, this situation is a little weird. So you need to go ahead and stay away, you know, until they have more, you know, evidence or whatever the case may be. But if a judge grants a restrainer, that means there is enough. A significant amount of evidence where they're like, you know what? This is not good for her to be near. You guys are not supposed to be near each other right now. The baby coming involved is tough because now, again, you want to protect yours. And now it's like, look, I got to take this baby with me. I got to travel. She's going to have to work and take this child with her. Which it is what it is. You got to do what you got to do. But again, we just don't know what was going on. So now it's out, you know, it's public, and now we're just gonna, you know, support her and uplift her. And at the end of the day, we have to believe when people are saying, this happened to me, you know, I know. She's also very nervous about his. His outcry of his public image as far as all his followers, because he's a known streamer that, you know, streams live all the time, and they're harassing her. So it's also very volatile in that situation, too, because now you're adding that being both of you, public figures. But people can publicly post these disheartening, you know, things. So it's a lot of mental and emotional abuse that she's already saying she's had. So now you're adding these layers to it. So it's sad. I'm supporting family all the time and also. But also safety first.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

Let me tell you, I was not caught up in no aesthetic of nothing. I'm tell you why. Because Little Mermaid, first of all, she has been following the Beyonce protocol her whole career. I ain't say nothing. I ain't saying nothing. I ain't do nothing. She don't respond to nothing. He probably because he's a streamer. I don't know a lot about him, but everything that I do see is he get on Twitter and he's like a certified yapper. Okay? He was going at her. He was saying a lot about her, about the relationship, about this, about that. And I'm like, damn. Like, I mean, they're cute and Everything. But I really do wish that he would kind of be quiet about what they got going on. But I understand that's part of his career. He, you know, he gets paid a lot to overshare. I get it. But it's also just like, I cannot stand no man as a certified.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, see, that's what I. When you said that she was following the Beyonce protocol, that's what I thought of her and her sister. Like, they were like following in the Beyonce's footsteps until she got whim. And then I was like, wait a minute. I know Beyonce did not sign off on this. So I too was not caught up in anything Beyonce's son or aesthetic. I was just like, as soon as they became a thing and she was pregnant, I was like, what is happening? Like, I will say he did look.

[Portia Berto]

Like a good dad, though. You know what I'm saying? He looked like a good dad. He looked like an involved parent.

[Sherrelle]

But did he hold his baby like.

[Portia Berto]

This with that and because he was always arguing with people on the Internet about that baby, he just looked like a very passionate parent.

[Sherrelle]

But he feel like that's attention. It's like, let me argue. It makes me look like. Yeah, I'm not buying it. I am never buying it. Also, he's short. And I don't know short kings. But listen, like, I don't know, it's just nothing about them made me be like, oh, that's cute. But I wasn't caught up in that. But now that things aren't working out for them, I don't know, like when I saw her, the picture of the chipped tooth thing. And also I saw like she had posted a picture with her with Brent Faiz or whatever his name is, on vacation, I think. Was it this past weekend or.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

It was something.

[Sherrelle]

Some weekend. Yeah. And DDG got mad or whatever because he wanted to see the baby. But she had took the baby to St. Lucia and with her new boo, I guess.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

No, she went with her sister.

[Portia Berto]

She went with her filter.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

What ended up happening wasn't there.

[Sherrelle]

He assumed.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

No, it wasn't even that. It was.

[Sherrelle]

He just popped off.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

But he popped off because that receipts are saying, she's like, look, this is how he is.

[Sherrelle]

Okay? This is what?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Well, I don't.

[Sherrelle]

I just don't like them like, posting their business, like having fights on the Internet, like, showing text messages. I hate when like celebrities do that because like the. And they're going to see all of this. You know what I mean? I really hate that part of that part about It. And it just seems so childish, too, because, like, we supposed to be adults, and then it's like we seeing y' all bicker. I don't know. I just don't. I just don't like it when it goes public and we can see the, like, ins and outs of the relationship. But I really do hope that, you know, they figure it out. Like, I hope she's safe, the baby's safe. I hope he can continue to somehow be in the child's life. Like, I hope they work it out. You know what I mean? I just don't like the childish parts of it. But my next question is, is Haley wrong for wanting full custody, or is she protecting her peace and her child? Let's be real. If you don't trust your ex, do you owe them 50. 50? In parenting, should a mom have the right to decide where the child lives, even if the dad wants to be more involved? And how much, say, should the non custodial parent really have?

[Portia Berto]

Hmm.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

That's a complex question.

[Portia Berto]

I feel like, for a man, if. If we separate, don't come over here trying to do all the stuff that you ain't never did before. If you ain't never took the baby out of town before. Don't wait until we separate. Try to take the baby out of town if you ain't kept him by yourself overnight. Don't wait until we separate. I can get him on weekends. I'm his daddy. You ain't never kept this baby by, like, ever in your life. Like, where are you, sir?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah, keep me back on same.

[Portia Berto]

You know, I just think that you.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Like, keep that same energy.

[Portia Berto]

Keep that same energy, but also with.

[Sherrelle]

Another, like, maybe they grow up, like, the relationship didn't work out. He wasn't the best father, but maybe something happens. He's more financially stable or has a new wife or something. Now he can be the better father.

[Portia Berto]

Baby steps.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, baby step.

[Portia Berto]

Don't take my baby out of town. I'll punch you in the throat. Don't do it.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And I see what you're saying, especially if this is not your norm, like, why. Why put this child? Because children become like, they become the. The pawn in this tug of war. They're right in the middle and they're like, well, I'm going to hurt you, wife or lady, because I know you're closer to this child. So I'm going to try to take this away from you because I want to hurt you. You know, it can get like that to get real messy, and only the child gets Hurt at the end of.

[Portia Berto]

The day always gets like that. And everybody always says, I would never do that, and I would never talk bad about them, and I would never do this, and I would never do that. And more often than not, that's exactly what they do.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

That's exactly what they do. So, no. Leave my baby home. Yeah, that's my fault.

[Sherrelle]

Well, I don't know. That is such a hard situation. I can't imagine, like, separating or whatever, and then having to share my kids, like, share that time. It's tough. So I don't know. That part makes me really sad. Like, thinking about it just makes me, like.

[Portia Berto]

It does.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

It's tough, you know, And. And again, this is going back to divorce. I just want to throw this in there. There's parenting plans where you literally have to plan out everything. Who's paying for this, who has this time, who gets this holiday, who alternates this, who's picking up from school, who's dropping off from school, who's allowed with.

[Sherrelle]

Like, the holidays, splitting the holidays. And you.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

You basically essentially having, you know, lawyers say, hey, I don't know, y' all, but this is. This is the. This is the blueprint. So we gonna stick this here. Stick this here. This is, you know, this is how you do 50, 50. It's gonna always something. And then you end up looking up, and you can't even. It's hard to even keep up with that because it's not. It's not realistic, you know, Like, I'm dealing with. My kids are older now, and they're in college. When, you know, one's in college, they're all over the place. So technically, I don't have to say, guess what? Go see your dad. They can go on their own or not. You know, it's like, you know, it's just. It's at this. At a point where it's like you have other people dictating, you know, your time with these children. So at the end of the day, the children are the ones that. That feel the brunt of it.

[Sherrelle]

It's tough. Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

Again, to me, he looked like he was all right, Daddy, so he could have fooled me. Girl, I don't know what them people got going on.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah, I don't either.

[Portia Berto]

I don't know.

[Sherrelle]

But it seems like the way she's going about keeping the child might not be right. Like, she's literally keeping him from seeing his. And that seems like what he's mostly upset about. Even in the arguments that we're seeing, you know, like, he might not be handling it the right way, but it seems like it's what we're seeing anyway, is stemming from her not allowing him to see his son, so.

[Portia Berto]

And that's because he was allegedly abusive towards her, I guess would have stimulated.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I get it. I mean.

[Portia Berto]

I did that.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

You know.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

You know, I get it, but I.

[Portia Berto]

Don'T like it, but I get it.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah. Well, damn, I hope they figure it out. Would you let your child travel with someone you don't trust? Haley said no to ddg. Taking Halo out of la. Is that being overprotective or just smart?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Again, we don't know what's going on. It has to be something for her to be like, I don't feel comfortable. You know, it's something.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I feel like mama be knowing.

[Sherrelle]

Mamas be knowing. And I feel like. Yeah, like, if she wouldn't say that unless it was. There was an issue. There is an issue.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And low key. Every time he has the baby. And again, I don't know these people, and I don't follow this at all. But, like, every time he has the baby on this stream, remember, his life is very much on stream. So he's like, hey, here's my baby. Here's my baby. And the streams are just rolling, rolling and rolling, rolling. Like, you know, the. The more followers, the more whatever, however you make your money off of streaming. But it's just like, here's my baby here, guys.

[Sherrelle]

Here, world.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

See my child. I mean, we gotta think of security. We gotta think of other people that are looking at your child and recognizing this baby. That's another layer to security too much.

[Sherrelle]

For me in my little life, child. I don't know how to handle that. I don't know why they putting us in a group chat, because we don't know what to do. We don't know what to tell y' all. We. This is a lot, Okay? I don't.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I don't know.

[Sherrelle]

It's depressing me.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

It's unfortunate.

[Portia Berto]

Let's wish them well. It's unfortunate. I wish you well.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sherrelle]

All right, let's move on for that. Because that's just.

[Portia Berto]

We are.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Let's move on.

[Sherrelle]

Okay? I mean, it's doing something I don't like.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah. I don't like it.

[Sherrelle]

All right. Have men become the new baddies? Let's be real. Some of these men are wearing crop tops, getting facials, and giving fast. And honestly, they're doing it better than us. So we got to ask, have men officially Become the new baddies. So we're going to explore how traditional gender roles have flipped and whether men are stepping into the spotlight with more vanity, sass, and emotional drama than ever before. So I'm going to give you all some scenarios. A man gets flown out by a woman, and he posts that. He posts the food, but not her. Is that giving city girl energy?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

How do we know? First of all, I don't really see guys posting the food. Do they? Like, is that it?

[Sherrelle]

What's the city posting the bottles? You know what I'm saying? I think they be posting. They be posting like at the airport in the lounge. You know, they got they way of.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Okay, okay. I was gonna say, I don't think.

[Portia Berto]

There'S anything wrong with getting flew out. Ain't nothing wrong. Even if you're a man. Ain't nothing wrong with getting flew out if she got it and she want to.

[Sherrelle]

But back in the day, that was more so like a woman was kind of like, the roles are changing now the men are getting flown out. So, like, do you don't think that, like, changes the whole energy of, like, you know, men versus women and, like, how things go?

[Portia Berto]

Not for a really man. If you're a woman, if she getting money, then she just getting money. But if you still. If you still a man, it's just. You'll make up for it in other ways. It's just you just got flew out. It's just a gift. It's like a gift. It's like giving a man a gift. You know what I mean? It's not. I don't see the problem. I bet you Andre wish I fly his ass out. I bet you he wish you. I call him be like flew now.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I think we're old school.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, baby.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I think I'm old school in the way. What?

[Portia Berto]

Okay.

[Sherrelle]

Can you come see me? Can you come meet me? No, I don't know if I could do that. I don't know.

[Portia Berto]

You know, she said, I don't think I could do. I don't think there's a. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it, but I don't think. I feel like there are a lot of things that are happening now that make men come off a little sassy. I don't think that's one of them. I think we've got bigger fish to fry. That's true.

[Sherrelle]

But that's the beginning of it. It's because they want to get out. They pull out these things. They getting the nails Flourished.

[Portia Berto]

Yeah, that's the gateway sack.

[Sherrelle]

Dangling earring, the dangling cross earring.

[Portia Berto]

Get away from me. Ashley.

[Sherrelle]

They getting real. They getting real. You know what I'm saying? They get the nail polish. They get the crossbody.

[Portia Berto]

The man purse. The purse.

[Sherrelle]

What else is the starter kit? It used to be like the skinny jeans, but that's not really in any.

[Portia Berto]

Now it's podcast microphone and trash talking women on that part.

[Sherrelle]

That part. Yeah.

[Portia Berto]

I'm up under the sassy brigade. And I know they get on the end. They like to say, oh, y' all always calling men sassy. I'm a part of the problem because I'm calling sassy.

[Sherrelle]

I think some of those things are sassy. Like, I don't want to see my man doing. I don't. I don't like the nail polish, y' all. Y' all like nail polish?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I don't like it.

[Sherrelle]

I can't. And they be doing. They be going all out with the designs. I mean, at first it was like, okay, a little clear. Okay, we go get.

[Portia Berto]

And that's the.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah for me.

[Portia Berto]

If we gonna have so manicute. No, no, no. You better buff it out. Don't you put a damn thing on those cuticles. You better buff that shit out. We're gonna walk away.

[Sherrelle]

Next thing you know, they got a whole full set. Like, I just can't. Okay, they under the light. Yeah, they might like that. Yeah. I don't know. I can't do it. I don't. I don't. I like me a man who obviously. But hypothetically speaking, I'm saying, like, I need a man. That's a man. Like, manly, you know, like, he can't be in the mirror longer than me. You know what I'm saying? Like, he need to be waiting on me to get ready. Like, you can't have a 10 care, 10 step routine. Skincare routine. Like, that's too much. Like, get you some soap and water and.

[Portia Berto]

And let's hit.

[Sherrelle]

Let's.

[Portia Berto]

Yeah. No, it's very traditional over here. And I did not think that I was like a super. I didn't think that I believed in gender roles specifically. Or maybe I didn't until I got married. I don't know. It just works better for me. I'm just attracted to that. Anything that's not that, like, I'll be attracted to it for, you know, for a short amount of time. I've had non manly.

[Sherrelle]

I think I did.

[Portia Berto]

I've had them with like a little sash and it lasted.

[Sherrelle]

Did you ever get a Gay boy.

[Portia Berto]

No, but I dated someone who like if later on somebody said oh, you know, so and so gay, I'd be like, I can see that. You know what I mean?

[Sherrelle]

I think I dated a gambo before in college.

[Portia Berto]

No way.

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[Sherrelle]

Very pretty. He was very pretty. We never had sex.

[Portia Berto]

Oh, well, that's it.

[Sherrelle]

I'll shoot you. But see, for me, I only sex with, like, on one hand. So for me, it was like, okay, we not having sex. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, but then I realized.

[Portia Berto]

Whatever. First of all, if you're not trying to sleep with me, you can't possibly give a crap about me. But that's my brokenness. Don't pay attention to that. Don't pay attention to my brokenness.

[Sherrelle]

I think very pretty boy. And yeah, I don't know, looking back, I'm pretty sure. Let's go.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Though. We're super old school, and I don't want to. We're not gonna speak for the masses, but we definitely want someone to court us to be that. That burly masculine. You know, like, yeah, you know, we. It's the gender roles. Going back to what Portia said, I agree with that. Like, you want X, Y, and Z and expect X, Y, and Z from your man.

[Sherrelle]

Even, like, the content creators now. Like, I don't want. I couldn't date somebody who's, like, doing the get ready with me. And it's like, you see them putting on the lotion and, like, I don't know, I sing and people like, I don't know. It's just. I don't like that. I don't like it. Like, I don't. Why are you posting selfies? I don't like that. Like, why are you posting your outfits?

[Portia Berto]

Imagine your man just carrying around a tripod. If I went to Publix and Andrey pulled out a tripod and set that bitch up, and it just. I'd be like, boy, if you don't get your.

[Sherrelle]

It's just certain things don't find masculine. Like, don' don't take no selfies. Don't post your outfit. Don't do that. Don't do That I don't like it.

[Portia Berto]

Do you think some stuff is going like the Internet? Like, we're kind of taking it a little bit too far. I actually saw a post where this man was like, you not a real man if you drive a coupe. And I was like, oh, my God, Men can't enjoy anything. It's like he's getting to the boot where they're like shaming men for, like, just enjoying their life. You know what I mean? Like, and I get it because again, I'm a part of the sassy brigade. Like, I will call you sassy in a minute. But it is getting.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

A Mustang is a coupe. A Ferrari is a coupe.

[Portia Berto]

A leveraging to the point where, like, I feel like, dang, they low key. Can't really enjoy nothing because nothing ass nothing.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Me specifically.

[Sherrelle]

At the end of the day, you like what you like, you know what I'm saying? But. And a man is a man. But I just do think some men are a little more feminine than others. And I feel like now it's just a little. It's trending, you know, it's like these trends with the nails and the earrings and the man bags and cutesy things that some men are into these days. It's trending. It's trending. Hopefully the manly man trend comes back soon.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

That's what the trend.

[Portia Berto]

I don't care. I got me a caveman and I ain't let go.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, do that.

[Portia Berto]

I can't. They sassy outside. Very sassy outside the argument.

[Sherrelle]

Do I think men are more emotionally expressive now or just more dramatic?

[Portia Berto]

It's a fine line.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

It's a fine line. But I think. I think they're getting more comfortable with speaking up, which I appreciate, because we are saying men, speak up, have emotions, have feelings, cry, let it out. But now it's turning into, you know, it's like, it's turning into, like, coming out very much. It could be aggressive, it could be sassy. It could be all of the. All of it.

[Sherrelle]

Because we.

[Portia Berto]

We say that to them because we want them to communicate, but we keep forgetting that they're just not great communicators to begin with. So however it's going to come out, it's just going to come out.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

However they would come out.

[Portia Berto]

Men just. They don't communicate. To me, they don't communicate as effectively as women do. Not always in complete thoughts, just complete emotion.

[Sherrelle]

I feel like men would say that about women, though. I think men would be like, women are just emotionally dramatic and just act.

[Portia Berto]

We are emotionally Dramatic. But we also know how to tell your ass what we are emotionally feeling. I'm emotional, but I'm tell you exactly why I'm telling you what's going on with me. It's going to come out emotional, but you gonna know what's wrong with me by the time we leave here. You gonna overstand. And men, I just think are. They're just not great communicators. I haven't met many who. Who were. Honestly.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, well, damn.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I mean, I'm meeting some.

[Sherrelle]

I see.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

But they're older.

[Sherrelle]

They're older and they've been through some Internet. I mean, because I ain't around a lot of men like that. But on the Internet, on the people's Internet, the men be the main ones in the comments, like, well, you think you all that, but you ain't. And it's like, damn, why do you even care? Because, like, I don't feel he ain't.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Gonna call nobody loud and wrong and.

[Sherrelle]

Tell a lady what they think about her. But it's a lot of men who feel comfortable going on to people's Internet and talking about women and a lot of like, derogatory things. And it's just crazy to me.

[Portia Berto]

Oh, babe, they're the meanest things.

[Sherrelle]

They stuff like, why do you even care? Like, a lot of. I didn't expect all the men to be chiming in on the humble baddies the way they've been doing. And I appreciate y' all for chiming in, but I just wasn't expecting y' all to go so hard sometimes, you know what I mean?

[Portia Berto]

The way that we're chiming in on how I should spend my mother's day, as if they've ever pushed anything out of their cat is crazy. I was like, oh, and only the men having a problem with it.

[Sherrelle]

But it's always like that, right?

[Portia Berto]

I be in them comments, I be seeing them come and try. Be like, go home, Roger. What are you doing over here?

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, the men's have a lot to say, you know, and you know, it comes with it, you know, opening yourself up on the Internet. But damn, the men are very opinionated. And I feel like the Internet has given them the freedom to, I don't know, say whatever. Like, I don't know. I just can't imagine them talking like that in person. Like, did y' all mama rape? I don't know.

[Portia Berto]

Nobody does, girl. They see you in person and probably try to hit on you. Asking for pictures, on which do women.

[Sherrelle]

Secretly love a pretty boy or do we want a man's being.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I want him fine. I want him attractive. Yeah, that's a pretty boy.

[Sherrelle]

I tried the pretty boy thing a long time ago, and like I said, I think he ended up being for the other team. So I got me a man's man. It was.

[Portia Berto]

That's true. I think. I think the one that I had that was kind of.

[Sherrelle]

He was.

[Portia Berto]

Yeah, but it's trending.

[Sherrelle]

Cardi B is with a pretty boy now, Stefan Diggs. To me, that's a pretty boy. Because he.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Why leave somebody?

[Portia Berto]

I don't know anything.

[Sherrelle]

No, because he's very.

[Portia Berto]

You just don't think he's pretty? Is that what you're saying?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

No, I do. I think he's attractive. I don't think he's a pretty.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I think he's a pretty boy because he's very fashionable. He's very into the way he looks. Like, you can tell. Like, that is a top priority for him. Like, his hair is always perfection. Outfit perfection. He has. You know, he's always at, like, fashion weeks, but, like, also, like, taking the pictures and, like, it's very. It's. He cares about the way he looks. He's a pretty boy. Like, he's.

[Portia Berto]

He's into fashion.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I look at it as just. That's a hobby and very much like, head to toe, like, your hair is manicured. He's into fashion, into style, into expressing.

[Sherrelle]

Himself, like, other things. It's very much pretty boy things. So that's why I would category him into the pretty boy category.

[Portia Berto]

Just looking at him, I wouldn't. I don't know anything about him, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I don't know. I think I have a sassier version of pretty boy in my brain.

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, well, yeah, he gives pretty boy to me. You don't gotta be. You don't have to have, like. You don't gotta be walking around like that to be pretty.

[Portia Berto]

No, not, like, definitely giving pretty boy.

[Sherrelle]

So who is y' all? Who would y' all say is a pretty boy? What is y' all version? Like celebrity? So we can all know who you talking about?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I mean, who the celebrity?

[Portia Berto]

I don't even. I don't even know celebrity. I know plenty of content creators that I definitely wouldn't name. I know lots of people I can name, but I'm not going to celebrity. Who's a pretty boy? No.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Oh, too young.

[Sherrelle]

Pretty boys. So, Stefan Diggs, are we entering era where men are the prize?

[Portia Berto]

Definitely not. I'm kidding, but I'M kidding. I'm not kidding.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I think they're seeing it more, but I think they. Men should feel that they're the prize, too, just like women should. I feel like it goes both ways, you know, come search out and win this prize and vice versa. The best man, best woman wins. Right. But to say you're the prize, to me, that's corny.

[Portia Berto]

Yes.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Especially, you know, like, I'm the prize, you know, like, no, like, you're gonna have to come court me and. And put me up on this pedestal, meaning, like a guy, and then you need to work your way up to be here with me. No, I don't think so. That's. That's not. That's not giving what we need, right?

[Sherrelle]

Yeah, I. I don't think that. I don't know. Well, I hope people ain't out out loud, because that's weird. But I do think men are, like, changing the way they see themselves in the dating game. Like, I feel like men are saying, like, no, it's so many women out here, and there's only a little bit of, you know, men that are worth it. So my value is this, and y' all gotta, you know, meet my standards. Like, I feel like their attitude towards dating has changed and to the mindset of we're the prize. You know what I mean? Um, so I, you know, and I don't think there's necessarily something wrong with that. It's just that it's different now, and that's just, like, the state of dating in these times right now. You know, I feel like. I don't know. But it's also just how you think, too, because I'm always going to tell, like, my single friends, like, don't worry about them saying, like, there's only a little bit of men and there's so many women. Like, that's not for you to worry about. Like, that's not your battle. Like, your person is your person. Regardless.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I agree.

[Sherrelle]

I mean, I get. I get that outlook that men have taken of, like, you know, well, I'm a valuable man. Like, I'm educated. I have a good job. I mean, running the list or whatever. I get that, like, that is something to be proud of and to, you know, hold yourself up, you know, high on. But I do think it's. I do think there is this, like, underlying thing of, like, the men are the prize now.

[Portia Berto]

I feel like that's what we're saying is, because right now we're witnessing, I think, for, like, the first time ever, mainly because of Social media is this massive war between men and women. On the Internet. It's happening minute by minute. Everybody's arguing about 50, 50. Everybody's arguing about what you bring to the table and what you bring to the table and why should I be with you. And I'm a high value man. And I'm like, it's enough is enough. And I feel like that's why we're getting so much like everybody's beating on it. Tito. Bye. Bye. Sorry. My son is creeping up in here. He want me his. I think that's why we're getting a whole lot of, you know, men kind of beating on their chest and talking about what they deserve is because, you know, it's. We're at war. It looks like we're at war on the Internet. Men and women all day acting like they need each other. Acting like. You know what I mean? Like, I just, like, that's just. Is that like a millennial thing? I don't know what the hell we going through. I really don't.

[Sherrelle]

I don't know. It is different. It is different. It's scary out there. But you right, I can see that. I could see that.

[Portia Berto]

I feel like that's why they, why they keep saying that. Why it's this constant discussion about how there's just more good men out there. Like, not more, but like the dating pool is small. Like, if you want a good man, it's just these people right here and they are on the Internet screaming at you about it.

[Sherrelle]

Right.

[Portia Berto]

You know what I mean? Like so, yeah, but again, that people.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Are impressionable to your point. Everyone's like, oh, is that how she be thinking? All right. Because you know.

[Sherrelle]

They all like, yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Portia Berto]

Now everybody's a high value man. Ugh. I hate when people say.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

That'S one of my icks too. Like when they come in, says I'm high valued, I'm like. And then they start with money. Like, that's not even what they're talking about. First of all, it's not about. It's not even about that. What are you even talking about right now, exactly?

[Sherrelle]

Well, like I said, I hope, you know, the rise of the manly man comes back society.

[Portia Berto]

Are you meeting manly men, Alex?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I am.

[Portia Berto]

She said, I am.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And that's what I'm attracted to. Matter of fact. Yeah, I'm attracted to. I'm again, I'm old school. I also. I'm a high valued woman. You know what I mean?

[Portia Berto]

I know. That's right.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sherrelle]

So.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

And I know what I bring to the table, you know, so I'm, I'm attracting these men that one can step up to the fact that I'm just. It becomes non transactional. So it's very fair. I'm attracting men that have to be honest, that have to show up, that have to be consistent and have to be that man, you know, like, because it's a lot going on over here. I'm not in a rush to be married. I've been there, done that. I'm not in a rush to have kids. I have four. They have a very active father. So like what I'm bringing to the table is like what you see is what you get. And it also filters out the ones who are weak. You know, you can't lie to me. You shouldn't lie to me. Why do you need to lie to me? You know, you have to be ready for this. I'm a lot of women and I bring a lot to the table. So that's what I'm attracting. It's a lot going on over here.

[Sherrelle]

It is.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

You know, it has to be the right kind of man to be like, not be intimidated by that I've done and, or let's just say my ex husband, like, you know, the men that have approached me are very much like, okay, all right, I see what's up. All right, let me, this is a challenge. Let me, let me step my game up because, you know, this is you, you, something else, Lex. And yes, I am.

[Sherrelle]

Amen.

[Portia Berto]

I'm trying to be with you all today. What are you all. What you say, what you drinking, what you eating?

[Alexis Stoudemire]

I'm on a cleanse. The mind is clear. The full moon, you know, we just, we, we, we here.

[Portia Berto]

But I'm that girl and what you mean.

[Alexis Stoudemire]

Yeah, yeah. You know this. The weak ones, the weak ones will filter themselves out every time.

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