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Alexis Sotomayor
Hey, y'all.
Ashley Nicole
Welcome back to the Humble Baddies podcast. I'm your girl, Ashley Nicole.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm Sherrelle Rosado.
Alexis Sotomayor
And I'm Alexis Sotomayor.
Sherrelle Rosado
And we are, we got a special guest tonight, y'all. French fry. Are you gonna say hi to all the Humble Betties out there? Come say hi.
Alexis Sotomayor
Serenity.
Sherrelle Rosado
All right, you can finish doing you girl.
Alexis Sotomayor
Oh, she is so cute.
Sherrelle Rosado
She is a bougie handful.
Alexis Sotomayor
What y'all been up to today?
Ashley Nicole
Oh, my gosh. She is a humble daddy.
Sherrelle Rosado
We have, we have mommy daughter day today. Went to the nail salon.
Alexis Sotomayor
Mommy.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yes. Oh, yes. And we just came from dinner, so.
Ashley Nicole
Because I feel like, well, I had to move my chickens. That's what I did today, I got them another nice little home. So they're nice and cozy. They, like, chickens grow really fast, so I had to get them situated. Huh.
Sherrelle Rosado
Where did you move them to?
Ashley Nicole
They're in my garage. But, like, when I bought them home, they were in, like, this big bin. So now they're, like, bigger, and I had to move them to, like, this big play pen. But they gotta stay in your house till they're like eight weeks old. So they, like, really, like my little.
Alexis Sotomayor
Babies keep them, like, warm. You have to feed them certain things. Like, yeah.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, girl. I am a whole new mom again. I gotta get the feed. I went to the store. I had to buy new shavings for their, like, bedding. I had to buy, like, their feet. It's a lot of stuff that chickens need, but they're just so cute. You gotta serenity. You want to go chicken?
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah.
Ashley Nicole
What you been up to? Le.
Alexis Sotomayor
My oldest, favorite son, Amare had was nominated as the player, one of the player of the weeks. So y'all can go vote. Everyone go vote for my son.
Ashley Nicole
Ok.
Alexis Sotomayor
He was playing. He's playing volleyball right now this season. He used to play basketball, so we are just like, hyping him up and just very excited for him as he is, like, taking on this. He had one of his best games ever. My mom was in attendance, and so was his older sister and myself. And we just. I mean, volleyball. Who would have thought, you know, just these different. The sports. But he's killing it. He's doing it. And pun intended because he had, like, something crazy, like all these kills, which means, like, you spike the ball and the point is dead, and he is just thriving. I'm happy for him. So my baby is, you know, he's just. He's just doing him and he's making his own lane. So I'm happy for him right now.
Ashley Nicole
So congratulations. Congratulations.
Alexis Sotomayor
Thank you. Thank you. So it's never a dull moment. I'm just enjoying being on spring break from school, so I'm just taking care of things at home with businesses and just things like that. Other than that, I'm just kind of flowing.
Ashley Nicole
Just living life.
Sherrelle Rosado
As you should. Boo. Boo. As you should. Now, let's get into it today. What we going? What we got going on, Ashley? What do we have going on, girl?
Ashley Nicole
Ms. Carly Redd, she is going. She has awarded $18,000 a month from her divorce settlement.
Sherrelle Rosado
Are they married?
Ashley Nicole
Oh, I didn't even know she was married, to be honest with you. I remember when she got married, engaged like, it was a whole thing. But I didn't even know she had gotten married. But apparently they have been married and now they're newly divorced, and she's walking away with a check every month. And a lot of people have a.
Sherrelle Rosado
Lot to say about the people saying. What is the people saying?
Ashley Nicole
The people, you know, of course, the men feel like, you know, she did it for a paycheck and that, you know, she doesn't deserve to be paid monthly. You know, they weren't married, I guess, too long. So they feel like, you know, she got married for a paycheck. At the end of the day, he.
Sherrelle Rosado
Must pay some coins.
Alexis Sotomayor
I mean, there. Obviously, somebody is saying that she deserves this, whatever it is. But that number is. Is very high. I mean, it's very high.
Ashley Nicole
$18,537 exact.
Alexis Sotomayor
You know, that's. That's a lot. I mean, I don't know, business wise, usually that's a part of it, but that's.
Sherrelle Rosado
I don't think they wasn't married that long. I think that's Serenity, baby. If you're going to be a special guest, you have to be quiet. Okay.
Ashley Nicole
Serenity. Got something to say on this.
Sherrelle Rosado
Serenity. How you feel about it? Yeah.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yes.
Ashley Nicole
She said she's for it. I mean, what y'all think? I mean, I personally feel like, you know, time is money, and if men want to go into it and say that it is, you know, a contract of some sort, you know, then you need to make sure that you agree to the terms so that if you get into a divorce, that it ends amicably. Amicably. I can't say that word, but y'all know what I'm trying to say.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah.
Ashley Nicole
You know what I mean? So I feel like if they agree to it, they agree to it. What is your problem? Why are y'all upset? He might have, you know, deep pockets. That might be pennies to him. That might be pocket change to him. You know what I mean? And I feel like if you're married to somebody and y'all have an agreement, you don't know what their marriage was set up like. You don't know if, you know, she quit her job, you know, to be a wife. He may have asked her to step down from a role or something. You know, they. You don't know what agreement they had. And so maybe this is, you know, payment for whatever they had agreed upon.
Alexis Sotomayor
I just.
Ashley Nicole
And I don't think it's possible.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's tough.
Sherrelle Rosado
It is tough. You know, when we did Our show, we had our prenup scene, and, you know, my lawyer came with it, and I was like, okay, you know, whatever. But even listening and looking at, you know, what was being countered and going back and forth, I wouldn't. In real life, like, in actuality, I would not agree. I would not agree upon that. I just feel like it's too short of a term to be afforded. You don't have kids together. I don't even think they've been. I didn't even know they were married.
Ashley Nicole
But you don't know what their agreement was. They might have signed a prenup that said if we divorce in two months, there's no longevity. If you get divorced in five months, then you'll get this much. So we don't know, you know, we don't.
Sherrelle Rosado
We don't know longevity.
Alexis Sotomayor
To Sherrelle's point, you know, there's no children, there's no legacy. There's nothing involved or investment equity.
Ashley Nicole
But y'all don't know that. Y'all don't know what she gave up. Y'all don't know what her terms were. He agreed to it.
Sherrelle Rosado
If he agreed to it, what if it's just, you know, the system?
Ashley Nicole
Then he should have signed a prenup. That said that she doesn't get spousal support. He only gets this amount. Like, nobody's tricking you.
Alexis Sotomayor
Support.
Sherrelle Rosado
I mean, what would you be awarded? Spouse support. Didn't they just get married? How long have they been married?
Alexis Sotomayor
Spousal support is different.
Ashley Nicole
It's not about that. Y'all are missing it. Like when you're. When you get married and you sign in the contract and you do a prenup, you can put whatever you want in the prenup. You can say, she don't get a dime. You can say, you know, we walk away with our own stuff. Whether you're married for a day or if you married for 100 years.
Sherrelle Rosado
You know, in our world today, prenups are not talked about. Prenup. What if they didn't do a prenup and it's just they went to court and that's what she was awarded. That's why we have to teach our people about prenups and sign prenups, and that's.
Alexis Sotomayor
Right. And to be fair, you know, given someone that has. Has been through a divorce, spousal support is to keep the same energy. I'm just giving you a lack of law terms, but same energy of. This is the lifestyle that it takes to, you know, if you were My spouse. This is what I chose to show you, invest in you. This is how the kids should live. That's what spouses. For me.
Sherrelle Rosado
Exactly. And I just feel like there wasn't enough time for him to eat.
Alexis Sotomayor
But that's like.
Ashley Nicole
But they got married not thinking they were going to.
Alexis Sotomayor
No one should go into it.
Ashley Nicole
So if I agree to marry somebody, I'm agreeing, thinking I'm going to spend the rest of my life with them. So say he changes his mind one day. That's not fair to me that he changed his mind two days in. That's not my fault. I might have made decisions. I might have made life decisions at this point. That might have altered my income. That might have changed my lifestyle. That may. So I just feel like in six months. Yes. You never know. I'm just. I'm just. I'm fighting. I'm talking about it as if I'm in court and we going through a divorce and I didn't want the divorce. He's asking for the divorce. You know what I mean? And I just feel like you have to protect yourself. And back to what you were saying, Sherrell. We do have to educate, you know, we have to talk about it more. And I think it goes back to another conversation we had some other day when I spoke about, you know, like, doing marriage counseling and stuff like that. There's reasons why, like, there's things that you're supposed to do before you get married because this. That way you have the tools. That way you're not doing something blindly and you're not making decisions impulsively mess you up in the future. So like you were saying, I think, you know, the system is set up in ways that can be seen unfairly, but there are ways that you can protect yourself as well. So it's like, we can't on one hand be upset. You know, My question is, would you have also be uneducated about the situation where you can protect yourself?
Sherrelle Rosado
Would you give the same advice if he. If the roles were reversed and he went to get spouse support from her?
Ashley Nicole
I would always say protect yourself. Both parties.
Alexis Sotomayor
I agree with that, Ashley.
Ashley Nicole
Both parties. So in her.
Sherrelle Rosado
In her.
Ashley Nicole
If he was asking for spousal support, I would definitely say the same thing. But I will also. Whoever is the person who needs the spousal support, though, I would make sure that whatever I need is written like it's in the prenup or it's written in whatever needs to be written down legally so that both parties, you know, are happy with the terms I just.
Sherrelle Rosado
Feel like you're right. I just feel like everybody. It sucks that you have to, we have to talk about it. Oh, serenity. It sucks that we have to talk about it, but it's just crazy. 18,000.
Ashley Nicole
18,000 is a lot.
Sherrelle Rosado
And y'all a lot.
Alexis Sotomayor
I mean, I know there's shared assets, mortgages, you have businesses, whatever you've invested in or whatever the case may be. But again, I'm gonna say I'm gonna lean on the fact of building these investments, building children and legacy and expenses and you know, tuitions and book supplies and travel and nannies and staff and, and groceries, all these things. I mean it's just very much tell. Like, you know, alimony is different. Alimony has usually stipulations where it's like.
Ashley Nicole
If, like if you get pre married.
Alexis Sotomayor
Or it should stop because you're accustomed to a certain lifestyle. Now again, I don't really know their situation. I don't know how long they've been married or together, whatever the case may be. But it seems very short termed. There's cause of like annulment and also just a lot. That's a lot of money, regardless of how much you're making. Just to just say here's a cushion to, you know, just because we didn't make it in marriage. Again, we don't know what any contract says, we don't know anything what the paperwork says. And obviously paperwork means something. But I think it's excessive. I think it's a lot.
Sherrelle Rosado
It is. But this goes to tell you, like Ashley said before, you definitely need to put everything in writing because you don't know, a lot of times we go in, you know, with the butterflies, thinking we're all in love, but you don't know what's going to happen.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah, it's real stuff.
Sherrelle Rosado
Six months, 12, 20 years. So you have to take care of yourself because the way you love, love can end and it's a disaster.
Alexis Sotomayor
So I mean, and again, I'm all for agreement. You should have things in writing. You should, you know, handshakes and very much say this is what we think because it is health concerning, it is legacy building, it is generational, it's a lot that goes into it. But you just have to be mindful of what you want, what you're bringing to the table and also what, you know, you're willing to give up just in case something does happen.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what about, I mean also you, you marry somebody and you think you're going to have, you know, this Lifestyle, right. You think you're going to live a certain way and, you know, things don't work out. Would you rather stay in the house with them, let them live with you, you know, continue basically paying for their lifestyle, or would you rather just pay up the spousal support?
Alexis Sotomayor
I think it goes two ways. One, to give a lump sum at the beginning so you can just be like, you know what? I don't want to deal with you anym. Go your way. That's if you have it and you want to have that energy of just like closure. But at the same time, if you have a family, you have like these investments, you have other things that are like, have been built over years. I think you need to do a better service of protecting that legacy, you know, of not getting emotionally tied into these things, but also very structurally and emotionally intelligent, being intelligent, making wise decisions about, you know what? We've invested in our children, we've invested, invested in education, we've invested in longevity of, like, this is what we want, we see for the future of our nest egg. That's the difference. So it's also depends on how you end in the relationship too. If it's very bitter, if it's very heavy, if it's very angry, it's going to be a lot of like, you know, me versus you. But if you.
Ashley Nicole
Because, you know, they say, like, it's cheaper to keep.
Alexis Sotomayor
It is cheaper to keep going through it, it is cheaper to keep her.
Ashley Nicole
But you just financially, for financial reasons, stay with the person and not get divorced, but move on. Y'all are seeing other people. Could you do that?
Alexis Sotomayor
It's cheaper to keep her, but health is wealth. I'd rather my health, my mental health of us being a separate household than me over here being combative and showing a horrible example for my kids.
Sherrelle Rosado
Because you're making it worse. You go, you're making it worse. Trying to stay in a situation you're not happy. They can't pick up on the energy. It's just. It's better. Sometimes they, yes, they say it's cheaper than keeper, but it's best to just exit the relationship and pay what you have to pay.
Alexis Sotomayor
Health healthy, separately.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah. And you never know, like, sometimes things can change. If you exit out of a relationship healthy, maybe y'all can come to terms on something else, which is amazing.
Alexis Sotomayor
You want that?
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah.
Alexis Sotomayor
Always good to have.
Ashley Nicole
And I think that's what like, mediation is for first, right? You're supposed to go to mediation and try to, like, come to terms and agree to Something that both parties, you know, can deal with. But you go to court, things get nasty. You start seeing different, different sides of people. The true codes start coming out. The lawyers start.
Sherrelle Rosado
That's what my divorce, it was like. I leave with what I came in and you leave with what you came in with. Your business is your business, my business is my business. I don't want to get the courts involved. It's not that serious. We both know how to make money. It is what it is.
Ashley Nicole
It gets tricky though, when you built something together, though.
Sherrelle Rosado
We had a house and everything a lot. And I invested in those things. But wanted, I chose my happiness and my peace more than anything. And I would rather just exit out.
Ashley Nicole
And let some people say they don't care about peace, happiness. They want that coin.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah, but see, I'm a woman that know how to make coins. So I'm not going to continue to fight and just, just stall out things when it's just. I'd rather just leave out the situation.
Alexis Sotomayor
Because my, to your point, lawyers don't know who you are. They don't know the pillow talk. They don't know the time that you've invested. The, the, the, the trajectory that you, somebody, the generational curses you want to stop. So to me, it's getting real disrespectful when you start to have these lawyers really fight against each other and they're expensive and no offense to any lawyers, you know, that's. I know I, we have tons of friend lawyers, but at the same time they're taking hard on hard earned money and they are really saying, you know, pitting people against each other and saying, you know what, she deserves this because X, Y and Z. He deserves this because X, Y and Z. But at the end of the, the day it should be about the kids, like what is best for them. And it's, it becomes difficult because now you're spending money to have other people delegate what's, delegate what's best for your children. It's just, it gets, it gets tough, you know, it just gets really tricky. But at the end of the day, it's business, it's tractual. And you know, it just, it just becomes, it sucks though, because you have.
Sherrelle Rosado
Something so beautiful, you're in love. And then when you go down that, that road where it's like now y'all begin to hate each other, y'all have beautiful babies together and it's like y'all are at war. And then what makes it worse is your lawyers. So it's just, it sucks that we can't know you. Exactly. Like you said that don't know you. So it makes it even ten times worse when they get involved.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah, right.
Ashley Nicole
Well, do y'all feel like.
Sherrelle Rosado
Do y'all believe men should get spousal support?
Ashley Nicole
I mean, I think it goes both ways. Like I said, you have to protect yourself, but as if I was a man. I don't know. Seems like these men these days do want a check. You know what I mean? Like, they'll take the check, but I don't know. I would feel some kind of way. I think as a man taking money from a lady that I no longer.
Alexis Sotomayor
Want to be with, it's really showing his true colors at the end of the day. Like, if you like going around and saying, you know what? She owe me this. Like, come on, bro. Like, you really gonna sit there and pay for a round of drinks and be like, yo, because my girl got it, my ex girl got it. Like, that's not a flex. Let's be real.
Ashley Nicole
I think Halle Berry is known to have given all her husbands a lot of money. Her ex husband's a lot of money, I think.
Alexis Sotomayor
Was this the bread one?
Ashley Nicole
JLo. Like, it's a lot of celebrities out here paying out to these ex husbands. And, I mean, some big checks, too.
Sherrelle Rosado
We gotta ask the humble daddies. Humble daddies, y'all, in the chat, do y'all feel like the man should be awarded styles of support, or is it just a woman's thing? What y'all think about that? That's a great question, by the way.
Ashley Nicole
I already know what they gonna say. I already know they gonna say, run it, Run it. Run me my money.
Alexis Sotomayor
I don't know. There was somebody else. There was somebody else that I feel like just recently was saying they were. They have to pay spousal support. I was watching a woman. Mm.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah. That's all I see now, really? This is the first time in a.
Alexis Sotomayor
Long time, like, the women. Let's not get it twisted.
Sherrelle Rosado
Oh, yeah.
Alexis Sotomayor
We gotta be the new targets now, right? Is that what it is? You gotta. We gotta.
Sherrelle Rosado
Then they gotta make sure they got their paperwork and.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah, but I'm down for signing prenups. It is what it is. I'm okay with that. It should be fair, though. But when you start building together, then you need to start, like, understanding what that really means. I'm curious what the chat has to say about that. But I think it is a double standard, though, between men and women, for sure. Because historically, women will get spousal support and alimony. And I know women who withdrawn from getting married so they can still get that alimony check because they know that the guy that they're dating is bringing in less than what they're getting from the ex spouse too.
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Sherrelle Rosado
That leads us into our next topic.
Alexis Sotomayor
Oh, does it?
Sherrelle Rosado
Oh well, look at that high value man versus the broke boyfriend debate. Look at that serenity say no broke boys allow. Should women only date men who are financially established? Or is love more important than money? Are modern dating standards setting women up for success or struggle?
Alexis Sotomayor
Okay, well, let me speak.
Sherrelle Rosado
I don't Want y'all to speak, to give an answer for the world. Just to what do you call a political answer. I want y'all to give this answer as if y'all were answering it. And what type of man would y'all.
Alexis Sotomayor
Date as someone who is dating currently and as. As well as someone who is established as well as someone who has seen a lot of the world and will want to continue to see a lot of the world? I am dating a certain caliber of man. It is what it is. That's what I expect. That's what I'm attracted to. That's what I'm going to date.
Sherrelle Rosado
And what. What caliber. What certain caliber is that, Lex?
Alexis Sotomayor
Meaning what? Like give me a scale because I'll tell you.
Sherrelle Rosado
No, that's the question.
Ashley Nicole
What's your caliber? What is high. What is a high standard man to you? What does that mean?
Sherrelle Rosado
The question is, would you date a. A financially stable man or would you be don't care about his finances because.
Alexis Sotomayor
You'Re 100%, 100% financially stable. I like the finer things in life.
Ashley Nicole
But everybody wants a financially stable.
Alexis Sotomayor
That's what I would hope you would want.
Ashley Nicole
But we're really talking about is, can you date somebody who is financially stable, meaning they pay their bills, or are you looking for somebody who's financially stable, meaning they travel the world on yachts and they live a luxurious life and can provide in ways that most of the world cannot.
Alexis Sotomayor
Let me be real with you. It doesn't have to be the.
Ashley Nicole
That's two different financially stables.
Alexis Sotomayor
Financially stable to me is we can still have date nights. We can have. I don't mind a movie at home. I don't mind popcorn being popped in the microwave. It is what it is. I'm not saying any of that. What I'm saying is I definitely want someone who has a nest egg, has. I mean, I'm at my age. I have something to bring to the table as well. I have lived this life. It can be intimidating for just whomever that is randomly trying to approach me, you know, so I'm attracting, honestly mirroring the type of man that knows what is going on with all of this. I mean, I can talk about going to see the pyramids in Egypt. I can go ahead, talk about living in abroad in Israel. I can talk about these things and living in Miami and X, Y and Z.
Ashley Nicole
So it's just, oh, he can't talk about those things.
Alexis Sotomayor
You know, I'm not interested because we have to have stimulating conversation because I'm also very.
Ashley Nicole
But he can still have stimulating conversation even though he's not as well traveled.
Alexis Sotomayor
But it's not about well traveled either. It's still about. It could still be a guy who is still very much a CEO of a business and grinding. He hasn't had time to travel. He's open to the fact that I'm able to like, set in that plan. Some things say this is what is dope here in this. This location and really still be able to, you know, understand that it costs this. It has time off to do this. I've talked to different kinds of guys.
Sherrelle Rosado
You know what I mean?
Alexis Sotomayor
So it's not just about, like, financially set. They're also being able to be set in power and set and be empowered as well as set to be like CEOs and things like that. So they know how to move. That's sexy.
Sherrelle Rosado
Okay, what if they the CEO of their business? They in power? They the CEO, but the CEO ain't making no income. But they can stimulate your mind by their conversation. What you doing, Lex?
Alexis Sotomayor
I mean, I love. I love a great conversation. I think that's sexy.
Sherrelle Rosado
Are you dating him with no income or are you moving on, sis?
Alexis Sotomayor
I'm not dating him with no income. Who's. I wouldn't want that for? My. My. My lady.
Sherrelle Rosado
But he the CEO with no income.
Alexis Sotomayor
To be honest with you, ladies, don't. Don't date a guy that is a CEO that has no income. No, his.
Sherrelle Rosado
His business registered in Sundays. He the CEO of his business.
Alexis Sotomayor
Right.
Sherrelle Rosado
There's no income.
Alexis Sotomayor
I think my ladies are tired of taking care of this. Like we want. We want to be catered to. We want to have something at least match it.
Sherrelle Rosado
I don't know, though, because it's been a lot of women out there that have been just dating for love, and they are the breadwinners.
Alexis Sotomayor
But it gets tiring and exhausting. I mean.
Ashley Nicole
I mean, I feel you, but I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't date for just love, but like, I don't know. I would. I would try it out.
Sherrelle Rosado
I would not. I'm gonna be honest, and I'm gonna be honest for all of us.
Ashley Nicole
Don't be honest with me. Just speak for yourself.
Sherrelle Rosado
It's easy for Ashley to say because Ashley is in a marriage and her husband, they're very well off. But when you experience a situation where you have to live out on your own and you grinding and hustling, you get tired of that. You want a man to be a man. You want A man to financially provide. I'm like, no relationship where I have to be the head in the finances. It's not happening, let me tell you.
Ashley Nicole
But we still have a conversation about.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm not gonna fully respect you as a man if I'm making all the financial decisions. If I'm the one winner in the relationship, I'm gonna. I'm the alpha in this relationship, and I'm gonna win over you. I'm not gonna have respect.
Ashley Nicole
But this is not what I'm talking about. That's not what I said. I wouldn't date somebody like that either. I'm saying I would date somebody who's financially stable, period. Okay? That means they can take care of themselves, they can pay bills, they can. We can go on dates.
Sherrelle Rosado
Y'all didn't hear my first. My first question. Are you saying any girlfriend, a boyfriend.
Ashley Nicole
So that's not broke? I said financially.
Sherrelle Rosado
My question before we got into this topic, Are you dating a broke boyfriend?
Ashley Nicole
But you're not letting me.
Sherrelle Rosado
Are you dating.
Alexis Sotomayor
You going for wealth? No.
Ashley Nicole
What I'm saying is I think we're all in agreeance. We don't want no broke boyfriend. Don't nobody want no broke boyfriend, okay? But I think there's a difference between somebody who's financially stable, like, they're paying their bills, they have good credit, they have a decent job, whatever. And then there's these other men who are, you know, footing the bill for all kind of things like the extras, you know, shopping sprees and trips and blah, blah, blah. Like, then that. Those. Those men.
Alexis Sotomayor
Right, by the way.
Ashley Nicole
Whatever. I'm just saying I would be open to dating the guys who are just financially stable, because it's like, on one hand, we're preaching that, like, we can make our own money, we can pay our own bills, we can do this, we can do that. So if we are already doing that, why would that feel stressful? You know, why would paying our own bills be stressful? If we're already preaching that we do that and we are independent and we can do our own thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. And if right now I'm just looking for love, I'm not looking for somebody to pay my bills, then I don't feel like there's any stress involved. But if you are looking for somebody to pay your bills, then I can see why that would be stressful. But if we're truly saying we are just looking for love, we not looking for somebody to, you know, pay the bills and make sure, you know, I got a House, a car, I've got the latest clothes on, and blah, blah, blah. Then I feel like.
Alexis Sotomayor
I think it's very much. It's transactional. It's very unconditional. But at the same time, you want a cushion. You know, you get to a certain point where you want to, like, go out to eat and have date nights. You want to go ahead and do these things. You want stability. And if you are taught a certain way and if you see a certain standard and you feel like you're. That you're valued and you're projecting this.
Ashley Nicole
Marriage, but you're not less valued because a man can't take you on a world stand.
Alexis Sotomayor
Like, I want to project someone who can match my energy. You know, I don't want anyone. A man that's intimidated by the fact that I can travel or want to.
Ashley Nicole
Travel, but he's not intimidated. He's just. That's not where he puts his money to at the time, because maybe he's investing in his company and he's doing things. He's just not there yet to be able to do those things. So I'm saying, like, it's not a man that's broke and that's can't hold a conversation. I'm talking about a good man, somebody we will all be interested in talking to. Like, has the conversation, blah, blah, blah. He may be well traveled just at this moment in time. He's not offering you that. He's offering love, though. That's. But that's what I'm saying.
Sherrelle Rosado
Most women, they like to be catered to. They like to have those things. They like receiving things. And you're not offering anything financially. I don't like. Like, that lunch is actually necessarily lowering.
Ashley Nicole
The bar, the lung shit.
Alexis Sotomayor
It should be.
Sherrelle Rosado
It's not enough after so long, Ashley, like, we can talk and it's stable. Like, it has to get to that next level. More than that. I want more than that because I.
Alexis Sotomayor
Want more than that, too.
Sherrelle Rosado
I deserve more than that.
Ashley Nicole
I think y'all need to say that y'all are looking for love and those things because, again, I'm looking for all that.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm not just looking just because you're financial. I pay my bills and you pay yours. Yeah, I said that.
Ashley Nicole
No, you said.
Sherrelle Rosado
I never said that. I just want you to be financially stable. I said I want you to make.
Ashley Nicole
Well, I thought the question.
Sherrelle Rosado
I want you to take care of. Like, I don't want to always take care of myself. Like, if I want. If I'm with a man I want you to go above and beyond for me. Be that man.
Alexis Sotomayor
That's what I feel like.
Ashley Nicole
I feel like a man can go above and beyond and it not be like, in a financial way, is what I'm saying. Like, he can go above and beyond.
Alexis Sotomayor
I want all of it.
Sherrelle Rosado
Exactly.
Alexis Sotomayor
I want all of it.
Ashley Nicole
I mean, and I. Y'all deserve it. I'm just saying I think it's still possible to be fulfilled by love and him not doing all these over the top.
Alexis Sotomayor
It doesn't have to be over the top. It has to be thoughtful.
Ashley Nicole
It has to be over the top.
Alexis Sotomayor
I haven't listed things.
Ashley Nicole
I love handwriting.
Alexis Sotomayor
You want him to go all the time.
Sherrelle Rosado
That's what I get from my man. If I'm with you and I'm giving you my stuff and I'm giving you all, expect for you to do things than just be financially stable and allow me to pay my things and you pay yours. And, oh, just because we're in love, I want more from you. Like, eventually that will fade. I'm sorry. Sorry, baby. Couple years, eventually that will fade away. You're going to want more from them, from them than just, oh, we carry a good conversation.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, I'd rather have good conversation for a lifetime and somebody that I can. Because material stuff doesn't fucking matter.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's not about material things. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I'd rather have someone that is. I don't. I love unconditional love. I love. But I also want to see acts of love. I want to see time spent. I want to have a. I didn't.
Ashley Nicole
Say he's not giving you acts of love, though. That's what I said. I didn't say that. I said, this is a good man. He got good conversation. He's doing things. He is going above and beyond. He may not be traveling all over the world or whatever y'all are saying. Like, he might not be doing those things that are. Can be expensive or whatever, but he's still showing you he's doing the things he's doing. He's, you know, doing the things that make you feel cared for. But you're saying that that stuff doesn't matter.
Sherrelle Rosado
You said earlier, Ashley, you said that he's not doing these. Doing financial things. He's just you taking yours and I'm taking your money.
Ashley Nicole
That's what I'm saying. He's doing things, but not financially. Like, he's not paying for extras. Like you may be paying for your car, your regular shit. Your regular bills that you're already paying for.
Sherrelle Rosado
Paying our own business. But Edith, it can't stay stable. Like we have to go to that next level where you're surprising me. You're doing things for me that, that it's.
Ashley Nicole
But he is surprising you still. He is surprising you.
Sherrelle Rosado
Let's get we. It is what it is.
Ashley Nicole
I guess.
Alexis Sotomayor
Honey, I'm trying to.
Ashley Nicole
We agree to disagree.
Sherrelle Rosado
That's what we g. Have to do.
Alexis Sotomayor
Because I'm just. I. I know what I give off.
Ashley Nicole
Maybe I'm not understanding.
Alexis Sotomayor
I just know what I give off. I mean, I know I am attracting men that are very much sitting in their power, very much have this ego. This very much like, you know, that's the ex wife of X, Y and Z. She's dated such and such. She travels this way, she dresses this way. There's wine like this in the. Whatever the case may be. I understand that. I also understand what I'm also attracted to too. Like, I like doing certain things and so it just comes hand in hand. So the kind of guys that are approaching me, me and very much want to start investing. Yes, it is intentional. Yes, it's unconditional. But it's also monetarily. It's also experience wise. It's also very much trying to match my energy because they know what I'm bringing to the table. I encourage my girls to elevate their levels of like the bar. Like why should you want to be trying to really like pay for everyone's everything, like dinner and trips and all these things. Time is spent very much. Well, like we can have good conversation, we can have nice walks, things like that. But we also have to have experience. We also have to have elevation and we also have to have going forward. Like that's what a relationship is. You don't want to stay.
Ashley Nicole
I don't agree with anything you're saying. I think that a financially person wants those same things too.
Sherrelle Rosado
Say what?
Ashley Nicole
Ashley? I said I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying.
Alexis Sotomayor
Okay, I'm saying.
Ashley Nicole
But just like a financially stable person wants those things too. Somebody who just interested in love also wants those things.
Alexis Sotomayor
I agree. Everyone wants to elevate. I mean, it's in our palms every day. We see it, we scroll it, we subscribe to it. We want to encourage it, all those things, 100%. But I mean, we just definitely want to live. Everyone wants to live and be the best that they can be. No, you know, it's just absolutely.
Ashley Nicole
I think, I just think that you.
Alexis Sotomayor
Don'T want to suffer.
Ashley Nicole
No, I just don't want. I don't want women to miss out on somebody great because maybe they have an idea of what they want their men to be and what they want their relationship to look like. Because, you know, people change, people grow.
Sherrelle Rosado
Like.
Ashley Nicole
So I don't know, I just feel like you might miss out on somebody if, you know, you're looking for a certain, you know, financial status, you know, because I feel like really that's what we're talking about. And there's a lot of great men who are on their way there and there's a lot of great men who will have the financial status and then they lose everything. So it's like, then what? So I don't know. I just feel like.
Sherrelle Rosado
I think it's. I think it's a hard situation to be in because like, when you're used to a certain lifestyle and you know what you attract. Right. You son, is nothing against somebody working and they're, let's say they are a shift manager at Burger King. You don't know that. They're an amazing person. You are who you are. This person you meet, you don't know what he does. Nothing. Y'all have conversations. You didn't even ask what they do. You skip past that because y'all were so intrigued by the conversation. And you get to like him, right? Y'all have amazing conversation. Y'all are going on dates or whatever. You start liking him. Y'all carrying time together. And you found out that he is a shift manager at Burger King. You cannot sit here and tell me that you will continue on. You will feel some type of way.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, I'm sure I would. But I think I would weigh my options. Like, I think I would still consider it. You know, I don't. I don't. If love is really what I'm looking for, I think I would consider it.
Sherrelle Rosado
Okay.
Ashley Nicole
Especially if it's really love that I'm looking for. But people have different things that they're looking for. So I just.
Alexis Sotomayor
You're right. It's per person. I could want a companion or a fill in or just a sexual companion or. The baby's here. Sorry. I was getting ready to turn up.
Sherrelle Rosado
Get on with it.
Alexis Sotomayor
I was about to turn up. You know, I could. It could be for a certain reason. Whatever I want to put in space of like my fill in the blank, I'll look for it. You know what I mean? So, like, with that being said, I feel like we have to. We're doing ourself a dishonesty and a disservice. If we are just going to settle. I think that's what I feel at the end of the day.
Ashley Nicole
But why is that settling? I never said settle. No, I'm to somebody else that might not be settling them.
Alexis Sotomayor
I just want more for myself. I just want more for myself.
Ashley Nicole
You have a. Another something else in mind that you're looking for, then that would be better.
Sherrelle Rosado
But when you have the love. I've seen this situation happen so many times where a lot of people, especially women, say, oh, I just want love. I'm looking for love. Once you get into that relationship and you feel like that's the love of your life life, then you become complacent. Most relationships become complacent because they don't know how to carry them on. Then more issues, more issues start coming on. Now when you accepted that shift manager from Burger King, now it's a problem because the finances are kicking in.
Ashley Nicole
The finances been kicking in. If he was a Burger King person, like, I. I just feel like in any relationship that can happen. People get complacent.
Alexis Sotomayor
And I agree with that.
Ashley Nicole
You know, the bills are paid.
Sherrelle Rosado
They can.
Ashley Nicole
Anything in the world like that just happens in relationships, period.
Sherrelle Rosado
So, like, I just won't set myself up for failure and allow myself to. To and it. You just have to be more financially. Financially stable than me.
Ashley Nicole
Like, be with men who are way financially stable and they ain't got shit else to offer and they swoop you off your feet and make you feel like they're the best and blah, blah, blah. Your bills might be paid, but the relationship ain't. So that's what I'm saying. I would rather be the other way around. I would rather be with somebody. You know, obviously I'm not gonna get with somebody when they're like broke and they can't, you know, pay their bills and stuff. But like, people go through things like, I don't know what our future holds for us. I don't know if we'll always live the way we do. You know what I'm saying? But I know I love my husband and I'm not going to leave.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm saying that you're going to. I'm saying when you're getting into a relationship, that is a major thing. Because the major thing that break relationships and friendships up is finances. That's number one thing that breaks up. So before I even allow myself. Of course it's more than finances, but before I allow myself to get into a relationship and get that close to a man. My, My. My bar is set right here. When it comes to finances, I'm with you. Of course, I'm looking at everything else, but I'm not set myself up for failure because I'm settling for someone who makes have a lower income than me.
Alexis Sotomayor
You're adding more stress. You adding more heaviness. You. You know, we have kids involved. Like, I'm like. Like, what am I teaching my babies? Like, you want to know? No, we're not doing this hustling backwards. We trying to grow and build.
Sherrelle Rosado
I want you. I want my man to have wisdom. Because with wisdom comes anything. Money, power, everything else. But your finances definitely have to be there, too.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, I get that's all.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's just. It is. And we are in a different. We are different age range, too. You know what I mean? We have been married. We have been divorced. We know better.
Ashley Nicole
I'm the same age as y'all.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah, but you've also been divorced. You haven't been divorced either. That's a whole nother situation. We're just saying because we're dating. And really, we can. We can talk about where we are now. We can also speak on how we were before. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I can't. Like, even just men dating me now, they see the last name and they're like, ooh, I don't know. That deletes a lot of people. And then there are those ones that are like, what's up? You know what I mean? Like, I can match that energy or even better. So it's just. It just is what it is, you know, at this. At this stage. That's it.
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Sherrelle Rosado
We ain't at that point actually where we just have to. We, we just get in a relationship just for love and we go, I have to.
Alexis Sotomayor
We can chill.
Sherrelle Rosado
We passed that point. Now we want to know who's gonna.
Alexis Sotomayor
Disturb this piece up in here, you know what I mean? Who's gonna come up here and turn all this.
Ashley Nicole
Yes, I guess I'm just a hopeless romantic and I want to be in love.
Sherrelle Rosado
And the finances and all that. We ain't got time to start over, baby. We ain't got time to start over.
Alexis Sotomayor
No, we don't. We want to get right to the middle. Nitty gritty. I see you, you see me. We're intentional. What's good? Let's build, let's go.
Sherrelle Rosado
You know, I'm the hopeless romantic.
Alexis Sotomayor
I love it, I love it, I love it. I've been there. And you should. And I am too still in this stage. I believe in fantasies and all these dreams and things, they happen, you know?
Sherrelle Rosado
Why do some women shame each other for wanting a man with money? Is it gold digging or it's just setting the standard I think Lex answered that one.
Alexis Sotomayor
Well, a lot of people may call.
Sherrelle Rosado
Us gold diggers because of our answers of what we. Why we explain what we explained.
Alexis Sotomayor
Let me tell you something.
Ashley Nicole
I don't think y'all sound like gold diggers. I think y'all have been hurt, and I feel like y'all have been through so much. Yes. I think y'all have been through traumatic, like, situations and relationships with men. So now the love part of things isn't. Don't hold as much weight. You know what I mean?
Alexis Sotomayor
So I disagree.
Sherrelle Rosado
I disagree.
Ashley Nicole
I think whatever you've been through this just my cool.
Alexis Sotomayor
I'm giving you my.
Ashley Nicole
It's a conversation. I'm just giving you my perspective, my outlook on just what I'm hearing. I just feel like, because you guys. Because y'all are saying, well, we've been divorced, you haven't. Blah, blah, blah, blah. So obviously, that has changed your perspective on how you would go about dating and whatnot. So outside looking in, to me, it seems like weight. The love that. The weight that love holds is not as heavy, you know, in a relationship that you're looking for now. It's other things that are more, you know, important. So. And I'm not saying, like, y'all are y'all. Something is wrong with you or whatever. I'm just saying, like, the way I look at love. The way you look at love is different.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yes. To me, right now, love is very much. I want intention. I want also the space of experience, too. So love is possible.
Ashley Nicole
I know. I think we have. We want the same things. But I'm just saying, like, I think there's other things that y'all are saying are more.
Alexis Sotomayor
Yes. My bar is very.
Ashley Nicole
Because of your past. Because of your past experiences.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's coming from experience and was correct.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yes. That's what I was about to say.
Alexis Sotomayor
That's all.
Sherrelle Rosado
It's not the hurt. Okay.
Ashley Nicole
Okay.
Alexis Sotomayor
That's all. So my hurt comes from a bar. Setting it high. I'm not gonna lower my standards of cooking.
Sherrelle Rosado
Cooking.
Ashley Nicole
I said hurt because I'm thinking. I'm talking about emotionally. Emotionally. I was trying to think. I was trying to think of emotionally, like, where you would. Because we're talking about love, and love is an emotion. I'm not talking about things like experiences are kind of like things. So I was talking about more like, emotionally what would fulfill you and, you know, love. I feel like y'all got this much room for love, and then this much room. All the.
Alexis Sotomayor
Love.
Sherrelle Rosado
The love will continue to grow, especially if Whatever my bar is into, this relationship is in there. The love will grow. There's no like little.
Alexis Sotomayor
And let me add to this, Terrell. The love that I have comes from experience. It comes from hurt. But it also comes from healing. So this love over here is nurturing because I have children. It's nurturing because I love life. And you know, my sense of adventure, it is so abundant and like elevated as well as like electric. That becomes more attractive. I gotta get em off of me. You know what I'm saying? It's just like I'm setting that standard in that resume. You know, when you have a resume of a job, there's the A pile, the B pile and the C pile. I'm definitely at the top of that A pile. I mean, there's a lot going on over here. But at the same time I'm bringing stuff to the table and I expect that from my partner. It is what it is. That's that I understand and I. I love. I mean, I'm not proportionate that's wrong.
Ashley Nicole
At all like that. I hope y'all didn't take that from what I was trying to say. I. Like I said earlier, I just want Terrell stop looking like that. Because that is Look.
Sherrelle Rosado
What's the look?
Alexis Sotomayor
Ass. What's the look? Ass. Let me see.
Ashley Nicole
My point is, I don't want women to miss out on a good man. Because he may not have on the outside what you think a man should have. Like blah, blah, blah, blah. Like standards. It could be anything. It could be like, you know how women are. Like, I don't want a man who's not 6 foot 4. Or I don't want guys who have.
Alexis Sotomayor
Everything and then they treat their kids like shit. That's automatic red flag for me.
Ashley Nicole
So.
Alexis Sotomayor
Or things like that. You know what I mean? I see how they're talking to staff. I see how they're talking to people. I see how they're talking to someone that's cleaning up after them. Red flag for me. You know what I mean? So I get exactly what you're saying. I just have.
Ashley Nicole
So that was my point. That was all I was saying. I'm saying consider. Consider it. Just consider it. Like it may not be what you thought you wanted or the idea that you think you.
Sherrelle Rosado
Me consider what?
Ashley Nicole
Consider. I don't know. If you happen to meet a man. If you happen to meet a man who is financially stable, by the way, and does have all the things. What she sleeping about?
Sherrelle Rosado
How. How you. Your response?
Alexis Sotomayor
She's okay.
Ashley Nicole
Well, I'M not talking then.
Alexis Sotomayor
No.
Ashley Nicole
Matter of fact, I'm going to go.
Alexis Sotomayor
Have sex where we frequent.
Ashley Nicole
Okay? That's not fair. We going to go where we frequent. And I happily married situation over here, okay? Because I've just given my. My point of view. That's all. I see. And y'all don't want to hear.
Alexis Sotomayor
We are listening and we are hearing.
Ashley Nicole
We hear.
Sherrelle Rosado
We hear.
Alexis Sotomayor
I see people. We. I mean, this is not right.
Ashley Nicole
I need another person on here with me because y'all not going to be ganging up on me, are we?
Alexis Sotomayor
Ganging up?
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah, it's. It's three against one right now.
Alexis Sotomayor
Three against one?
Ashley Nicole
What am I sharing at?
Alexis Sotomayor
Yeah, somebody. No, I'm sure the chat lit right now, but. No, I'm just saying I want us ladies to have the bar standard high. That's it. I just. I believe in old school courting. I believe in. I also believe in picnics and what you can. I don't want you to go and be above and beyond and be in debt. Like, I don't want that.
Ashley Nicole
But nobody said that. Y'all keep saying that I would not date nobody who can't pay the bills, who couldn't take me on a date. Like, y'all know that.
Sherrelle Rosado
Well, that wasn't so.
Ashley Nicole
I don't know why I wasn't doing.
Sherrelle Rosado
That in the beginning.
Alexis Sotomayor
Hold on.
Sherrelle Rosado
Hold that thought. Let me go take serenity to bed. But y'all keep on carrying, keep saying.
Ashley Nicole
You keep saying, like my standard. Your standards are here. I think everybody has high standards. What I'm saying is don't miss out on a good man because he's not presenting in a way that you think is up here or whatever. Like, he may be up here in other ways, but you haven't gotten to meet him and that part of him because, I don't know, y'all need time to get there or whatever.
Alexis Sotomayor
Where we're traveling, where we are, what rooms we're in, how we're moving, we're also meeting those kind of guys, too. I'm gonna be real with you. I mean, I'll wait till Sherrell gets back on that. Like, back, back and locked in. But it's about that, too. I mean, I was saying that it's.
Ashley Nicole
About right to rhyme and stick.
Alexis Sotomayor
But she's saying, like, we are in these rooms where we. The way we travel. We're in these. These rooms. We're in these boardrooms. We're in these events. We're in the back rooms of a concert. We're around These type of men, you know what I mean, that are.
Sherrelle Rosado
We have to wait the waiting game.
Alexis Sotomayor
What you say when we don't have.
Sherrelle Rosado
To play the waiting game?
Ashley Nicole
What waiting game?
Sherrelle Rosado
Were they just doing them financially and we doing us financially?
Alexis Sotomayor
And we're being approached by men that.
Sherrelle Rosado
Are established, that understand what the woman wants and needs and what makes her happy.
Alexis Sotomayor
So they're. They're trying to be. In addition to.
Ashley Nicole
I don't know. Y'all lost me now, but.
Sherrelle Rosado
Because you're contradicting yourself. Cause you. You said one minute. You started off saying, I just don't.
Ashley Nicole
It's okay.
Sherrelle Rosado
She paid her bills, he pay his bills, and we're just fallen.
Ashley Nicole
No, I didn't say she paid his bills.
Sherrelle Rosado
She paid her bills, and he paid his bills. And it's just nothing financially there. It's just whatever. Y'all just falling in love with each other.
Ashley Nicole
Like, y'all do realize a lot of people in America, they be paying their own bills and be married.
Sherrelle Rosado
It's not just that. It's like, we want more to it than just having a good sex.
Ashley Nicole
But we're talking to an audience of people who are, you know, so when I'm speaking, I'm speaking to an audience of people. Then I started speaking on. On me specifically, or really y'all. Because y'all are dating. I'm just saying, like, what if you. What if you met somebody? He's financially stable, as in, he pays his bills. You know, he's. He can take you on dates. He can do things. But it might not be the standard of up here.
Alexis Sotomayor
Like.
Ashley Nicole
Like what you were saying, you know, that you want him to go above and beyond. Like, he's doing things above and beyond. But maybe it's not the expense of the above and beyond that expense.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah, it's not about that. Expenses.
Ashley Nicole
Well, that's what it sounded like before. Love languages.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's time spent. It's. It's a lot of.
Ashley Nicole
Yes. And I said, he's doing all those things. But y'all were saying, like, no, my.
Sherrelle Rosado
Question in the beginning was a broke boyfriend. Or that's.
Ashley Nicole
And I said, nobody wants a broke boyfriend.
Sherrelle Rosado
So then we moved it on to.
Ashley Nicole
Saying, okay, he's financially stable, but he may not. Not present as somebody who can do, like, the expensive things.
Sherrelle Rosado
But it's not about the expensive things. It's about, like. It's small things. Like, okay, you surprised me with a form, and you surprised me with roses. You going out your way to do those type things?
Ashley Nicole
Yes. A man doing that.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yes.
Ashley Nicole
That's what I'm saying.
Sherrelle Rosado
He does that. We're okay with that. What I was understanding from what you were saying in the beginning, you was like, he do his thing financially, she do her thing financially, and y'all just have good conversation. That's what I was getting. I don't know, maybe Serenity was moving around too much, but he wasn't going above and beyond with other things. I don't care about your expenses, like, or what.
Ashley Nicole
It clearly came off to me that y'all were talking about and you, Alexis saying about your. How well traveled you are, and he needs to be able to do this and do that, like, all these things. So I'm saying he may not present that he does all those things, but he is. Is showing effort. Like, he's. He's going above and beyond. But it might not be.
Sherrelle Rosado
But what is it?
Ashley Nicole
Above and beyond experiences that you had with your ex husband? It might be, you know, something else, but it's still going above and beyond.
Sherrelle Rosado
Above and beyond. Like, give an example.
Ashley Nicole
Like how you were just saying, like, writing poems, showing, like, interest and effort and, you know, being sweet, surprising you.
Sherrelle Rosado
That's my.
Ashley Nicole
To me, that's above and beyond. But to Alexis, that might not be. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know. Are y'all talking about, like, expensive stuff.
Alexis Sotomayor
Or are y'all saying the men that approach me, as well as the confidence to continue just understanding what kind of woman I am, they are very much attracted to. This is what it is. I travel, I am a philanthropist. I do these things. X, Y, Z. I'm well.
Ashley Nicole
So it's just that saying the same thing over and over. But it's fine. I get it. We see things a little differently. Like, I still think that whole love weight thing is there, and I think that it is because y'all have different experiences than I have.
Sherrelle Rosado
It is what it is.
Alexis Sotomayor
Because you.
Sherrelle Rosado
Only got one damn experience. So you can't. We can't. You don't understand what we're saying and what we've been through because you haven't experienced what we experienced.
Alexis Sotomayor
That's what we're also advising, too.
Sherrelle Rosado
I actually.
Ashley Nicole
I actually do experience. I actually do understand. I do understand. I'm just saying, again, I just don't want women to miss out on a good man because he might not have, you know, whatever against standardness. And I said your standard could be that he's 6 foot 4 and he does this and he's that, like, whatever your standard is, like, sometimes you might need to look somewhere different or as something different because you might be missing out on something. That's all I'm saying.
Sherrelle Rosado
But I just don't want to give bad advice to men or women by just settling, thinking I don't think that's bad advice.
Ashley Nicole
I'm not saying, I didn't say you.
Sherrelle Rosado
Were, but I'm just saying my question in the beginning was would you date a.
Ashley Nicole
And we said no, we wouldn't date.
Sherrelle Rosado
The first point we're focusing on, but you're not settling. Oh, just because he have a good conversation, maybe we can work things out and grow with it. That's where our answers are coming from, our response are coming from. So to clear it up, even in the chat we're not looking for. It's just we know what our standard is. We saying in the chat we know what our standard is and at this point of age we know what we want in a relationship expect in a relationship. Just like a man know what he want from a woman who's in her late 30s, early 40s in a relationship. So it's not being a gold digger. It's not saying, oh, you know you ruthless. Let me know when you find this, that and the third. It's like I've been through this and I don't want to go through it again. The love will come, the love will grow. But these are what I expect when I get into this relationship.
Alexis Sotomayor
I want intention, I want, everybody has.
Ashley Nicole
Everybody has handers, everybody wants those things. So we are in agreeance on that Totally. I don't think that makes y'all gold diggers or anything like that. But like you said, our experiences are different. So the way I think we talk about it and express it is different. But I think at the end of the day we all want the same thing but the way that we express it is going to come out differently.
Alexis Sotomayor
Stability value because of our experiences is.
Sherrelle Rosado
Interesting but we can agree. I like warms and surprise flowers.
Ashley Nicole
I love that.
Alexis Sotomayor
I love a picnic, I love a walk.
Ashley Nicole
Somebody said stop speaking for low income people. I don't think I'm speaking for low income people. I think I'm just speaking for. I'm trying to speak for ladies who are hopeless romantics that want to find love. That's who I'm speaking.
Alexis Sotomayor
I'm offer hopeless romantics too. Oh, but I didn't say I'm just about me. No, I'm. I'm with you. I'm all for all of that. I believe in alignment, I believe in chance. Meetings, all this kind of stuff.
Sherrelle Rosado
I do too.
Alexis Sotomayor
But also, you know, want to turn up and have a good dinner and we not thinking about that either.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm just speaking real. Because, you know, at the end of the day when them, when that love starts to get a little comfortable over there. Yeah, but what about when the money fade away?
Ashley Nicole
But what about when the money ran out?
Sherrelle Rosado
No, because y'all gonna talk about it. Y'all gonna get it going. Y'all already have y'all businesses and everything established.
Ashley Nicole
Yeah, but you can talk about love too. Just like you can talk about business.
Sherrelle Rosado
You can't. You can talk about love.
Ashley Nicole
You can talk about love, you can talk about work. Just like finances take work, you gotta put just as much effort in both boats.
Alexis Sotomayor
I agree with that.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah, you. I feel like you got to put more.
Ashley Nicole
I would, I, I would. I'm telling you, it's. It's both, it's both like you got to work on the love, keeping the love part just as much. You got to work on the finance part. Both of them can grow communication.
Alexis Sotomayor
It's just communication. Wants, needs, all that kind of stuff.
Sherrelle Rosado
But every like going back to it, everybody expect different things and they should answer for somebody else who don't care.
Alexis Sotomayor
About, you know, everyone's different. I have my standards, I have my. This is what I need from you. It is what it is. That's my list. It's for me.
Ashley Nicole
I think everybody should definitely have standards and have a list.
Alexis Sotomayor
Like, you have to like, what are your non negotiables? What are you not fuck widdables? Just like.
Sherrelle Rosado
But I'm gonna say it, like, I'm gonna say this right to. Back to Ashley. I don't think it should be equal. The love and the, the, the work should be equal, though. I feel like the work should be a little bit more because love ain't paying them bills.
Ashley Nicole
I mean, I think that it's not an equal thing. It's just like a balance thing. It's like a. Sometimes the love part might need more work, more time, more effort and then some. Or it might be the business part. Y'all need to work on your finances more. Like, especially if you in a long term relationship gonna be like this. So relationships, they be doing. You know what I mean? So I don't know about it being equal, but I just think they're. They both got to be tended to.
Alexis Sotomayor
Everything you tended to.
Sherrelle Rosado
I'm. I'm on my love tour.
Alexis Sotomayor
Love. I see love meaning you don't want to be in love or you want in love right now or until that person comes along.
Ashley Nicole
I'mma take I'mma when did I need to I'mma take you on a date Cherelle, you need some love I'mma take Can I take you last? I need to rub off.
Sherrelle Rosado
Yeah I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. It just sounded good.
Alexis Sotomayor
FL tour I'm not gonna hold you. I definitely turned up right? Post divorce, post breakup. But then I went on a whole sabbatical.
Sherrelle Rosado
Look, Lex, we need to have a conversation. I've been doing good, y'all. I've been doing good.
Alexis Sotomayor
I'm here for you. I'm here for you.
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Release Date: April 3, 2025
Host/Authors: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Description: NFL legend Shannon Sharpe—3x Super Bowl champion and member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame—sits down with the biggest athletes, celebrities, and influencers to discuss their accomplishments, challenges, and everything in-between.
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, hosts Ashley Nicole, Sherrelle Rosado, and Alexis Sotomayor delve into the high-profile divorce case of Karlie Redd, who is reportedly collecting an exact sum of $18,537 per month as part of her divorce settlement. The conversation transitions into a broader debate on the dynamics of modern relationships, specifically the contrast between "High Value Men" and "Broke Boyfriends."
Timestamp: [05:54] - [10:03]
The episode kicks off with Ashley Nicole introducing the case of Karlie Redd, who has been awarded $18,537 monthly from her divorce settlement. The hosts express surprise over the high amount, especially considering the apparent short duration of the marriage.
Ashley Nicole (05:54): "Ms. Carly Redd, she is going. She has awarded $18,000 a month from her divorce settlement."
Alexis Sotomayor (06:23): "I mean, there's shared assets, mortgages, you have businesses, whatever you've invested in or whatever the case may be. But that number is very high."
The discussion explores public opinion, noting that many men feel Karlie secured this settlement for financial gain rather than mutual agreement. The hosts raise questions about the length of the marriage, presence of children, and possible prenuptial agreements that might have influenced the settlement terms.
Sherrelle Rosado (10:03): "We don't know longevity."
The hosts emphasize the importance of prenups and clear agreements before marriage to protect both parties in the event of a divorce. They debate whether the settlement was a result of legal necessities or was influenced by the system itself.
Timestamp: [26:44] - [74:19]
The conversation shifts to a broader topic: "High Value Man vs. Broke Boyfriend." The hosts discuss whether women should prioritize dating financially established men or if love should take precedence over financial stability.
Key Points Discussed:
Financial Stability vs. Emotional Connection:
Impact of Divorce Experiences:
Prenuptial Agreements:
Balancing Love and Financial Responsibilities:
Avoiding Financial Dependency:
Notable Quotes:
Ashley Nicole: Advocates for financial stability in relationships but emphasizes the importance of love and personal connection. She encourages women not to undervalue men who may not fit the traditional high-earning mold but still offer emotional support and stability.
Sherrelle Rosado: Highlights the importance of financial independence and mutual support. She stresses that love alone may not sustain a relationship without financial balance and warns against the pitfalls of financial dependency.
Alexis Sotomayor: Focuses on the need for intentionality and matching energies in relationships. She underscores the significance of shared values, mutual respect, and the ability to grow together both emotionally and financially.
The hosts agree that while financial stability is crucial, it should not overshadow the importance of emotional connection and mutual support in relationships. They advocate for open communication, clear agreements, and personal standards to ensure both partners are protected and fulfilled.
The episode concludes with an understanding that successful relationships require a balance of love, financial stability, and clear agreements to navigate the complexities of modern partnership dynamics.
This episode of Club Shay Shay provides a nuanced exploration of the intersection between love and financial arrangements in modern relationships. By dissecting a high-profile divorce case and engaging in an in-depth debate on relationship dynamics, the hosts offer valuable insights for listeners navigating their personal and financial lives.
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